March 29, 2025 • 55 mins
React to a video where a Pastor explains why church hopping is not good. Also, look at scriptures explaining the original meaning of members of the body of Christ.
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
All right, all right, all right, hello high and how
they digit demands JK. Moore, welcoming you back breaking tradition.
So tonight we will be concluding this teaching on church hopping.
So we started off talking about the origin of the
word church and how that meaning of that word changed
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over time to include the buildings that people usually associate
with the word church. Okay, then, oh, and we also
established that there is no biblical basis for the idea
of church hopping. And then last week were and directly
in the scripture showed an example where my granddad Peter
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and some of the other apostles stood before these religious leaders,
told them, we are not accountable to you all, nor
do we answer to you. We have to do exactly
what we're instructed to do by God. And it said
that even after they were warned about continuing to preach
and teaching the name of Jesus, well what they do
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went right back out there to the temple daily preaching
and teaching about Jesus, and then even going so far
as to go from a house to house preaching and
teaching about Jesus. And when in the scriptures where they're
talking about house the house, it was not, I repeat,
was not talking about going to one of these gathering
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buildings for people who believe in God called church. You
have to remember, at this time, the concept of even
having a building for believers to gather together the worst
of God was still new because the preaching and teaching
of Jesus was still new. So when they talked about
they went from house to house, no, it was not
talking about going from a church building to church building,
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and literally meant going from like this house to house
preaching and teaching Jesus. So tonight we are going to
start off by looking at a very short video on YouTube.
We're going to react to that, which is why you
see me rocking the headphone. This is a lean back
and chill night. And then from there we're going to
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hop into scriptures that talk about the word member and
what members of the Body of Christ originally meant. All right, So, hey,
we're already hopped in, we're already strapped in, we're already writing.
So let's go ahead and finish on up breaking this
tradition about church hopping. All right, Sure, we will go
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over here, and the title of the video is why
church hopping doesn't work?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
All right, this ought to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Not only should you be a part of a church,
you should be a part of a local church. Now
I'm talking to all y'all. Right, now, this is our church.
If you're attending here, this should become your church. Some
people like to engage in what we might describe as
church hopping. You know, they're sort of connoisseurs, right, and say, well,
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I love the worship in this church, but I really
liked the preaching over in this other church. But I'll
tell you what, you can't beat the children's ministry on
even another church. So on a given Sunday, we'll pop
around one Sunday, we'll go to this church. Next Sunday
we'll go to another. A third Sunday we'll go to another.
And then the fourth Sunday, well, we'll just watch something online.
And they think that's wonderful. That's not a good thing.
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And I'll tell you why. Because church is not just
a place to attend, it's a place to participate. You
become a part of a family. It's in the church
you find accountability. Church is a place to develop and
use your gifts. And you need a pastor, and you
need a consistent theology and by the way.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oh okay, well, starting right off, if the reasons for
you going to any gathering of believers or a church
is because you like the preaching or you like the
children's ministry, okay, well, then you're in this thing for
the way way wrong reasons. Remember when our foundation scriptures
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for Matthew chapter twenty eight, go into the world preach
and teaching the things that you observed that I've taught
you and in my name, people are going to cast
out devils, they're going to raise the dead, they're going
to heal the sick, and first and foremost, you know,
before they even do all that, they're going to believe
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that Jesus is the one true Messiah, the Savior of
the Son of God, and that his shed blood is
the only thing that can wash us clean of our
sins and give us our admittance into Heaven. He didn't
tell them to go out there and establish anything about
making the preaching sound good or children's ministries. Jesus never
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said anything about that. See, that stuff is part of
this religious man made system that have taken the foundational
teaching and word of Jesus and built their stuff on
top of it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But not the correct stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, And then church is supposed to be a place
where you find accountability. Well, again, going back to those
scriptures that I read last week, from the Book of Acts,
chapter five, Peter and the apostles clearly said, we are
not accountable to any human authority. We are only accountable
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to God because God is not man.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He's never been man.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, I'm sorry, except for that small period of time
where he lived as a man as Jesus. But okay,
if even then, when I did the teaching on accountability,
I can't remember what episode it is, you have to
go back and look for it, but the series was
called Who's Your Accountant? Talking about this very thing, I
went across multiple scriptures that prove that, no, we are
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not accountable to other humans. Other humans are flesh and
blood just like us, with a spirit living inside of
which means not only have they sinned, but they have
the potential and the capacity to sin again in the future.
So since when is sin supposed to be accountable to
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other sin? Not only that old human on this planet
can save.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Us or will save us.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Only the blood of Jesus can do that after we
ask for it. And as I said, at the end
of these episodes. You can confess your sins to Jesus
and receive Jesus anywhere. It doesn't take you going going
to a church. You can do it anywhere. I do
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it sitting in a room like this that I'll even.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Give it an example.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
If you're sitting on the toilet, all right, well, doing
your usual bodily function, you can call out the Jesus
and accept them. Then it's the Holy Spirit that convicts
us and keeps us accountable to God, not any human.
So right away, all these examples that that he gave
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about why people shouldn't in church hop it is is
man made stuff. It is not scriptural talk about joining
a family. Yeah, Once I have been redeemed back to
God through the blood, through my confession of being a sinner,
and then my receiving of the gift of Jesus's shed blood,
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I become a child of God, Jesus, who is my mother,
who is my brother? Except those who do the will
of the Father. Again, if you're doing the will of
the Father, you don't have to be confined in a
single building to do that. We should be doing it
any and everywhere we go, whether it's in a church building, okay,
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whether it's in a dog on a park bench, whether
it'say in some restaurant we're in, We're always constantly doing
the will of God. So I'm already part of the family.
Once you confess, once you get saved, you're getting grafted
into God's family.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You become then you become a true child of God.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I'm already in the family. Then, So what are you
saying if I do all this outside of the confines
of some brick and mortar building, that that means I'm
not part of the family. They're wrong, wrong, And the
example he gave by these people going to different places,
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Sir again to quote Jesus again, don't you know that
I have to be about my father's business. When was
Jesus ever confined to one place one place? Yep, scriptures
tell us daily he taught in the temple, But we
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have multiple more scriptures that tell and show us where
he was on the side of lakes and rivers, okay,
in towns, in people's houses, in hotel rooms or inns,
all of these places, all of these different locales outside
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of what's now become known as church. So if Jesus
did that and then again the original Apostolic order. If
they did those same things, then why do we nowadays
have to be confined and belong to one group or
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one assembly of believers and attend that same building every
week with long ass a short We don't have to.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Other pastors would agree with me on this statement. They
would say, yes, if I need someone in our church,
he's a visitor, and I often do. Let's say, well,
I'm visiting from another church. I'll say, oh, what church
do you go to?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Them?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
They'll say, you know, whatever the church is. And generally
my response is, well, I hope you're really involved in
your church, and maybe I know their pastor. I go,
your pastor is a great guy, we're friends, and if
we're friends, I won't say that if I don't know.
Of course, now, occasionally there'll be someone who's going to
a church that teaches false teaching. I would certainly bring
that to their attention, But generally I'll say.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
While the irony generally they're going to a church that
teaches false teaching.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh, you mean.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Like the idea of telling people that they should stay
with one group of believers in a church and work
in there to build that up yo, be a.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Vital part of your church. I will not say, oh,
come join our church. Leave your church and come to
our church please, because that's not something I would ever
want to do. I just want to encourage believers to
get plugged in to the church because I think when
they don't do that, they miss out on so much.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Oh kay, miss out on so much. What if people
were actually out there teach the original meaning, the original
definition and original function of the word church, then discussions
like this would never even come up.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And he said, you know, if.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
People to talk to this business, well, I hope you're
active in that church.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's part of the problem.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
These religious organizations or as somebody I often quote on here,
the content creator Gothics as she calls it, Christianity incorporated,
because that's how they run.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
They run like businesses.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And they got you in there busy doing stuff to
get stuff together for this ministry, busy in there getting
stuff together for that ministry, busy in there doing this
for this ministry or this organization, this that, and this,
ma'am's serves. At what point are you all finding out
what spiritual gifts these people have in them and then
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activating or I'm sorry, the Holy Spirit does the activating, cultivating,
and teaching within that gift.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
At what point does that ever come up?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Well, I can tell you from first hand experience in
a lot of instances it doesn't. Is supposed to be
the pastors, the deacons, and then everybody else, and then
everybody else is supposed to operate in whatever capacity the
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pastor thinks that they're supposed to operate in.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
With any teaching that you get.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, maybe on a Sunday morning and Tuesday Wednesday night
Bible study whenever they tend to have it, and that
that that's it. All the rest of the time, you're
run around part of all these different functions and organizations
or whatever to help keep that church running the way
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that pastor wants it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Ran.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay, I'm I'm I'm sorry, go out into all the
world preaching teaching about Jesus, about the Messiah, because what
these organizations are supposed to be doing. Again, if they
were operating under the Kingdom principle and not under the
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umbrella of religious Christianity, then you wouldn't even be looking
for people to stay at your spot for any long
any long point of time. They would get whatever they're
supposed to get there and then move on to go out,
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you know, to establish to work in whatever capacity that
God has them working.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
That that that's it.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm not here to be active in your different auxiliaries
and and and different little sub committees and clubs and
and all this other stuff y'all got going on in
here just to help, you know, help you look good,
that to help this thing run better in other words
of business. No, that that is not our purpose. That
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is not any believer's purpose. Find out our spiritual gifts.
Get those gifts, cultivate and learn all you can by
it about it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Should have said.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And then after that, Okay, God, where is it you
will have me to go to do whatever whatever whatever? Not. Okay,
person who's in charge of this ministry or organization, where
where is it you think I should be functioning there?
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And that's part of the problem that we've had for okay,
dog gone centuries of not millennia. People get too tight
into only following their instruction and hearing the voice of
whether standing behind a podium or a pulpit like this,
and not listening for the voice of God for instruction.
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Jesus said multiple times, I don't do anything that the
Father doesn't instruct me to do before he did everything.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Father, I'm consoling you about it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Father, Father, Father, Father, always going to God the Father
for next step and next instructions.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Did again did did?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Did we see Jesus ever going to those religious leaders,
submitting himself to them, saying.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That he's a chump to whatever they wanted?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Well, no, and rightfully, his soul, thank god he didn't,
because their every waking moment was trying to stop him
and shut him down from preaching and teaching what he
was out there preaching and teaching. So they definitely, you know,
had he gone that route, they would have shut him
up and set him in a corner somewhere. So same
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exact thing, remember, y'all, not not what would Jesus do?
What did Jesus do? And even more importantly, what instructions
did he leave for us to do? And staying confined
to one building, one ministry, one particular group, or as
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simbly of believers is not something that he instructed us
to do.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
All right?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
So speaking of members, because that is usually the word
that people use for those who and join their organization,
they call them members of that right, So let's look
at what scripture has to say about members when it
comes to the body of Christ, believers in God.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And you know what have you whatever term you.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Happen to youth, all right, and let me get myself
out tough here out there we go, all right, Jael.
So the scripture we will be coming from First Corinthians,
chapter twelve, starting with verse number twelve. First Corinthians, chapter twelve,
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starting with verse number twelve. And now will put a
quick palls for those who will be maybe following a loan.
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All right, One Corinthians, chapter twelve, starting with verse number twelve.
And in certain Bibles it has a heading for this section.
That's its unity and diversity in one body. Whereas the
body is one and has many members, but all the
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members of that one body, being many, are one body.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
So also is Christ.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
For by one spirit, we were all baptized into one body,
whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and have
all been made to drink into one spirit. For in fact,
the the body is not one member but many. If
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the foot should say, because I am not a hand,
I am not of the body, is it therefore not
of the body. And if the ears should say because
I am not an eye, I am not of the body.
Is it therefore not of the body. If the whole
body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If
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the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? But
now God has set the members, each one of them
in the body, just as get this he pleased. And
if they were all one member, where would the body be?
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So in other words, when it talks about members here,
it's talking about members of the body, or another way
to say a thing about this body parts. Yes, the
entirety of these different parts, everything on the outside and inside, is.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Called our body.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
But what he's trying to say here is each part
has its own specific function that it's supposed to carry out.
Eyes for seeing, nose for smelling, arms for everything. The
arms do you know, so forth, ands on, legs for legs,
be for walking. So same thing as in the body
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of Christ. Yes, they're different members, but we have different functions.
Goes right back to what I was saying a few
minutes ago about the importance of the teaching of what
function we're supposed to carry out in that particular group. So,
going by the logic of a lot of people in
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Christian thank God, not all of them, but a lot
of them. Their thinking is first and foremost that we're
their members, or we're members of their church or their ministry. Wrong,
we are not any humans members. We're not any humans sheep,
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We're not any humans.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Flock.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
We all get this, all belong to one and that
is God the Father, right back up here, verse eighteen.
Now God has set the members, each one of them,
in the body, just as he pleased. So let's say
you're part of one of these organizations, part of one
of these ministries. Okay, again, going by their logical up
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you're not supposed to leave and move and go around
to different church.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, if this church.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Has all the members that needs, and I operate in
the capacity of an eye, and there's another group of
believers right up the street who have all the members
of the body they need except for eyes, what sense
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does it make for me to stay here where there's
already and abundance of eyes, and we're all just kind
of running into each other bumping heads when I could
be used in better service at that ministry up the
street who has no eyes and are in need of them.
That is when the Holy Spirit would talk to us
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and God would say, hey, okay, where you're at.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You've gotten everything you needed there, all right.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You've been taught how to function in the capacity of
an eye, and they've already got plenty of eyes there.
I need you to now go to that group of
the road who needs eyes and use there and complete
that body to help them move along to wherever God
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has for them to go. That is how it's supposed
to be, and verse eighteen clearly establishes that God has
set the members and he moves us in the body
as he pleases, not as some leader over a ministry
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or an organization, how they know please or what they think.
At the end of the day, you had better be
listening for the voice of God, and even more importantly,
you had better be moving and.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Operating off the voice of God.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It doesn't matter what anybody says about it. It doesn't
matter how anybody feels about it. We're not here to
be moved by what other humans say, and we're not
here to be moved by what other humans feel about anything.
Our every step, our every breath, every prayer, every praise,
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every everything is supposed to be instructed orchestrated, motivated and
carried out by God the Father.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
So when the scripture talks about members, is not talking
about rosters and rolls for these different churches. No, no, no, no.
It uses that word as a synonym as an example,
and that's why he use the body parts as an example.
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And this again further goes to what we talked about
in the first episode of this teaching. If there's one
and one church and one body of price, then how
can you hop? You can't hop from one body to
another body. It's impossible. It defies all laws that we
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know of the supernatural of physics and everything else. Matter
of fact, physics, I think it's the first law of
physics that actually says two objects of as a equal
volume a mask can't occupy the same space at the
same time. Something along those lines. For y'all two physicists
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out there, you'll know better how.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
To put that.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
But in other words, okay, yeah, two objects physical objects
can't sit in the same space at the same time.
You can't do it, just like we can't hop out
of one body into the same body or to another body.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You can't do it.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
But we can, durnshore move from one group to the next.
We can darnshaw move from one assembly to the next,
because if God is instructing and orchestrating it, that means
because He has need of you, he has need of
you in that other group or assembly. So if that
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means you got the hop, skip, okay, run, or do
whatever else leaving that place, ain't going to another one
one day, that's just what you do. All right, Let's
go and continue your own with this verse number twenty, yeah,
or verse number nineteen, after they were all one member,
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where with the body be exactly if we were all
laid all the functioning of the body wouldn't work the
way it's supposed to. God created us in our different
body parts slash members the way he did for specific purposes,
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and it's up to us again to listen to him,
find out what that purpose is, and operate in that
purpose to help keep the body of Christ. In other words,
all believers of Christ's moving and going and doing what it.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Is that He asked for us to do here.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right, But now indeed there are many members yet
one body, and the eye cannot say to the hand,
I have no need of you, nor again the head
to the feet.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I have no need of you. No much.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Rather, those members of the body which seem to be
weaker are necessary, and those members of the body which
we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow
greater honor. And our unpresentable parts have greater modesty. Okay, well, right,
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there are unpresentable parts.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The modesty.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Clearly he's talking about what we designate as private parts. Okay,
and yeah, our private parts we're sure gotta function, all right.
That's how that's how i'm, me and y'all sitting here today.
That's how humanity repopulates itself the only way we can
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do it, all right. But our presentable parts have no need,
but God composed the body, have been given greater honor
to that part which lacks it. That there should be
no schism in the body, but that the members should
have the same care for one another, exactly those of us,
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you know, again, back to our own separate, actual bodies.
If we care about ourselves, and you know, if we
seek to have any type of long life on this planet,
we well, we do what it takes to keep these
bodies functioning as best as possible. And if one member suffers,
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all the members suffer with it. Or if the one
member is honored. All the members rejoice with it. Now
you are the Body of Christ and members individually exactly
as believers. We all compose the one singular Body of Christ.
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Now here is not talking about physical body, spiritual believing
body of Christ, his Kingdom ambassadors here on earth again,
which is another designation. Now this one didn't come from
Jesus himself, but another designation that still is not Christians.
And I say, now you are all Christians and members individually. Yeah,
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our spiritual belief comes together to compose the Body of
Christ ambassadors, those who go about teaching, preaching, spreading the
will of God. But we are also individual I'm me
or you Joe as Joe, Jane and Jane. But at
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the end, what he's saying is we're supposed to have
the mind of God, and when we do come together, okay,
then we're supposed to act on that mind and will
of God, not our own individual interests, because our own
individual interest is going to cause the body to get
out of way, which could be another reason why God
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will instruct.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
You to move from from one.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
One group one place to another one because stuff's.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
All out of wrecking there.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like oh okay, well, I don't need you getting messed
up or contaminated or as it says, to have any
part of this schis them here all right, I've already
got another place where I need you to go in
and put that work in. And again that's what you do.
But no matter where you go, you operate in the
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capacity that God created us for. And no, it is
not hopping. It is not church hopping. It is doing
what the heck God tells you to do, because you're
still functioning. You're still going to another assembly of believers.
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You're still acting and functioning in the capacity that God
wants you to act and function there, just with a
different group, but they're still part of the Body of Christ.
And you're going there as that member that that particular
part of the body needs needs melt.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Just that simple.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
So yes, the original meaning of members is talking about
how we function as part of the Body of Christ,
not again, not being being tied to one particular, one
particular place where your entire belief in life nowhere, nowhere,
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nowhere do you see in the New Testament where the
apostles was once a group had been, a new group
was established where they told them, all right, take take
names of people, take rolls of people again, some something
that was being made added on all under the auspices
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of human not God.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
All right, And.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Speaking of members of churches of organizations, there's another very
prevalent and evident reason why some of these people have
a problem.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
When they're so called members leave or.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Dismissed themselves from that particular place and go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
All right, you go.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
To a new window here, all right. Yeah, that's typing
in churches get money for Yeah, I see that members.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
That's a good way to type it in. Blow this up.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So I typed in to googly, Do churches give money
for their members?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
See?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Churches typically rely on donations from their members and others
to fund their operations and ministries, but they generally do
not directly pay money to their members, unless for specific
services or programs. Okay, many churches strive to be transparent
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about their finances, right.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Sure they do. They're supposed to be nonpropers. I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
All right, let's ask this a different way. Does the
governing meant not fun churches? That's the government. They churches
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for their members, all right? So this time I typed in,
does the government paid churches for their members. Know, the
US government does not directly pay churches or they're just
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organizations for their members, but they are eligible to apply
for government grants on an equal footing with other non
governmental organizations to indirect aid. Some programs may provide aid
to religious organizations, such as vouchers or certificates. Oh goodness, man,
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that's Reddit, and I don't want to go there. So
uh yeah, actually there is that. I guess maybe I'm
not typing it in to Google rate. But on their
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Texas and it's just like the personal income taxas we do. Yes,
on church Texas, they do get back more a bigger
return depending on how many members they have on the books.
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Now I know that for a fact. Like I said,
I don't think I'm typing in the probably not typing
in the question right. So in other words, as I
was saying, that's another reason why some of these church
leaders have a problem when when there are members quote
unquote leave from that church because that's less money they're
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gonna be able to or less people they're gonna be
able to claim on those taxes to get that return back.
So yes, that that that is a real thing. Okay,
unless laws have completely changed in the ten years that
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I've disassociated myself from Christianity and these religious organizations. But
I know before then, yes, they would get money. There
was pretty much think of people as text write offs.
That's exactly what they were. But anyway, coming on back,
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so yeah, there it is right there, y'all. Churches or
church originally.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Talking about actual people. Us.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
We are the church, we are the body of Christ.
Originally it was not talking about buildings. And no, the
Bible does not say anything about leaving from around one
group of believers and going.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
To another and then going to another.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
In fact, as we saw from the scriptures that we read,
that's exactly what Jesus and the Apostles did. They went
around different groups and they said, hey, as many as
believed they got saved at that time and that day,
and then they went on to the next group, and
the next group, and the next way, and so forth
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and so on.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
The buildings where.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
These people gathered together eventually came in because it was
just convenient.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
It wasn't possible for the Apostles to go to every
single house and preach and teach Jesus. But they did
establish elders in these different communities, people who knew the
people in that community and knew their needs, they could
get out and do it. But again still the idea
came about of just like originally with the temples, just
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a place for people to gather there here the hear
about Jesus get saved prophesy if there was a prophetic
word for the house, and then dismissed and going about
their business. But it was the early century church, as
with so much of all this ridiculous mess that is
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still to this day going on, that started mess like
creating church laws and bylaws and all these so called
sub ministries and all that that all that mess again
just gathered itself over over the years. But back to
the point, No, there is no prohibition and there's no
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restriction from God about leaving one group and going to
join on to another, and possibly even leaving that one
and then going and joining on to another, and so
forth and so on. So as the title says, this notion,
this idea of church hopping, is not real. It's not
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real trying to keep people confined to one place. That
is just a form of control, that's all that is.
And as I said, also again unless the laws have changed.
It's also a form of receiving more tax money for
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people who are on those membership roles. That's all it is.
All it is control and money. Now, I know, shocker,
right when it comes to these religious organizations. But anyway,
so I also mentioned last week about a letter. I
started talking about that, and that's a good friend of
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mine who's been in this game, coming up from thirty years.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
What the name of that letter was.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
He knew exactly what I was talking about, but he
said he doesn't think it has a particular name. But anyway,
what this letter is say, I'm a member of the Avengers, okay,
and I want to leave the Avengers church and go
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over to the x Men Church.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Well, the x.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Men that depends on you know, how they operate. They
might tell me that they need a letter of One
of the terms he said he thinks they used for
is a letter of release. We need a letter of
release from the Avengers saying that that church leader gives
permission for you to now join the x Men church.
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And again, this is something I have heard about firsthand,
and I'm like, wait a minute. So when I stopped
and thought about that thing, I'm like a letter So
I need a letter from this organization saying that they
release me. You mean release me like I belong to you,
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like you have ownership of me, and I'm now being released,
So this new church can now have ownership of me.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
So we're talking about papers and releasing and ownership. That
kind of sounds like slavery, which is not surprising because
we're talking about people who operate in religion, and we
were already discussed and broken down way way back.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
When you break down.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
The word religion, it ultimately comes down to bondage or slavery.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Now, is the.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Basis for this particular letter whatever the actual official name
of it is, is it founding scripture? And my friend
who was talking about it, he was like, no, that
mess ain't found in scripture, he said, because it's not scripture. Wrong,
he said, it's just another form of these people to
exercise some sort of control over people.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Why do I need a letter?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I don't remember signing a letter when I first joined
up at this at this Avengers church, So why do
I now need a letter to go and join up
with this group of believers saying that that you released
me again? Like I said, like, like we're like they
owned us or something. Well, according to the word of God,
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no you don't. But there's still plenty of them out
there who operate like that. And it's sad because people
who don't know no better, people who will not take
the time to pick this thing up, actually read and
pray about it, or pull up their dog on Bible
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app or or whatever it is. However you get your word,
because they're putting their faith in trust in these women
and men just because they have some title and they
sound good and they're standing up in the pool pit
or well clearly that they won't ever leave me wrong.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Why not? They're human. Put your trust in no man,
and that that's scriptural study.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
To show yourself approved, that's scriptural. God wasn't didn't keep
reiterating about studying and about wisdom and about getting knowledge
for no dog One reason it was so when half
cracked stuff like this comes up, that will have the
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defense to say, no, I don't have to do that,
or no, you are completely wrong. According to God, this
ain't real, something man made, and y'all, anything that's man made, okay,
if it ain't got then it's influenced by Satan plainness symbol.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
So I'm like, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
It's definitely a good thing that I've excused and dismissed
myself from all that, because the first time you tell
me in order to come here and worship, will do
whatever I need to go back and get a letter
of that last ministry releasing me or whatever.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I'm like, oh, okay, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
See you when I see you, because I won't not
be coming back here, much like Jesus said, have to
be about my father's business, not other humans dumb mess
all right, all right, So in the words of Forrest Gump,
that's all I got to say about that. So that
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is it, good people, That is it for tonight. But
but but.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
If you want to be.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Part of the true original Church, then again, just just
call out to Jesus.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
If you have the faith, if you have.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
The faith, if you have the faith that he is
truly the Savior and the Messiah, call out to him,
think out to him, right out to him.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
However you got to do it. Just reach out to him.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Confess that you know you're a sinner, you know you're
done messed up, you know you're going to team to
do it. But what you also now know is that
will lead you ultimately straight to the lake of fire
and eternal separation from God. And you also know you
don't want that. Reach out to Jesus, I messed up.
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I believe your blood, your shed blood, can save me.
I receive it. Father, I've confessed my sins. I've received
the blood gift. The war are more important, the wash
and clean gift salvation from your son.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Hey, no'm reached out to you.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
You know, send me that Holy spirit quick fans all right,
fat exit ups it overnight. However, you got to give
it to me, and give it to me quick, to
rightly activate these gifts that you put in me before
I was even born, and to go about doing your
kingdom work wherever it is you will have me to
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do it God, and put kingdom minded people, teachers, instructors,
other believers in my path to help me along so
that we can get together a and do this.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Thing all right, get get it knocked out.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Why we still have this time on this planet and
then wrap it on up with And Jesus, is in
your name that I do pray this and I believe it.
Amen and Amen means so let it be is done.
That's all it takes. And then after that, if you
want to he celebrating, you know, grab yourself a nice
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cool beverett sip on it.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Relax, be full of joy, be happy, because.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
God, the Father, Jesus, all the heavenly angels, they will
be celebrating with you because they know that's one more
soul that will not be in Satan in the Lake
of fire.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
And on the other hand, Satan.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Is gonna be furious because he knows that's one more
person that will not be joining him in the Lake
of fire. And his whole embo, his old modus operendi,
is to have as many human souls sent there as possible,
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eternally separated from God, because he knows that that's that
that you know that that's where you that's where his
guard at, his God at in his heart. By having
many people and influencing I'm not going to say making,
because he doesn't make us do anything, but by influencing
as many human as possible to disregard God turn their
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back on him. And you're not real man, I don't
need you.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
So we won't be joining Satan. We don't want to
give him any victory, okay, at all?
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
But it starts with faith, and it starts with belief
that Jesus is the only way that you'll get to
see the opposite of eternal damnation and eternal separation, eternal life,
eternal peace, eternal bliss, and it ain't gonna be found
on this planet. Okay, okay, all right, Chael. So as
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always this old country boy does. Thank y'all for joining
taking this ride with me. Listen to me joe on
about it. Thank y'all, soul so much.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
Remember, hey, love yourselves, treat yourselves well, but strive to
treat other people just a little bit better then you
treat yourself. Love them, even if you have to do
it from Afar, because some people, they they they just
ain't gonna allowed to happen one on one in them persons.
So hey, if you got to do it from Afar,
do it from Afar. Listen, listen, and to the instruction
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of God, and you move and go wherever He tells
you to, no matter what any human on this planet says, well,
you know, beyond the shadow of a doubt is God.
And then especially if He bless you to send somebody
behind with prophetic gifting, that just confirms what he told you.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Shouldn't even be a question, y'all.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Move, go operate exactly how God wants us to. All right, So, y'all,
until we meet again, God bless us, we'll come back together,
do it all again.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Take another ride. I want to thank y'all.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
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Speaker 2 (55:21):
Peace,
All right, all right, all right, hello high and how
they digit demands JK. Moore, welcoming you back breaking tradition.
So tonight we will be concluding this teaching on church hopping.
So we started off talking about the origin of the
word church and how that meaning of that word changed
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over time to include the buildings that people usually associate
with the word church. Okay, then, oh, and we also
established that there is no biblical basis for the idea
of church hopping. And then last week were and directly
in the scripture showed an example where my granddad Peter
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and some of the other apostles stood before these religious leaders,
told them, we are not accountable to you all, nor
do we answer to you. We have to do exactly
what we're instructed to do by God. And it said
that even after they were warned about continuing to preach
and teaching the name of Jesus, well what they do
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went right back out there to the temple daily preaching
and teaching about Jesus, and then even going so far
as to go from a house to house preaching and
teaching about Jesus. And when in the scriptures where they're
talking about house the house, it was not, I repeat,
was not talking about going to one of these gathering
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buildings for people who believe in God called church. You
have to remember, at this time, the concept of even
having a building for believers to gather together the worst
of God was still new because the preaching and teaching
of Jesus was still new. So when they talked about
they went from house to house, no, it was not
talking about going from a church building to church building,
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and literally meant going from like this house to house
preaching and teaching Jesus. So tonight we are going to
start off by looking at a very short video on YouTube.
We're going to react to that, which is why you
see me rocking the headphone. This is a lean back
and chill night. And then from there we're going to
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hop into scriptures that talk about the word member and
what members of the Body of Christ originally meant. All right, So, hey,
we're already hopped in, we're already strapped in, we're already writing.
So let's go ahead and finish on up breaking this
tradition about church hopping. All right, Sure, we will go
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over here, and the title of the video is why
church hopping doesn't work?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
All right, this ought to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Not only should you be a part of a church,
you should be a part of a local church. Now
I'm talking to all y'all. Right, now, this is our church.
If you're attending here, this should become your church. Some
people like to engage in what we might describe as
church hopping. You know, they're sort of connoisseurs, right, and say, well,
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I love the worship in this church, but I really
liked the preaching over in this other church. But I'll
tell you what, you can't beat the children's ministry on
even another church. So on a given Sunday, we'll pop
around one Sunday, we'll go to this church. Next Sunday
we'll go to another. A third Sunday we'll go to another.
And then the fourth Sunday, well, we'll just watch something online.
And they think that's wonderful. That's not a good thing.
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And I'll tell you why. Because church is not just
a place to attend, it's a place to participate. You
become a part of a family. It's in the church
you find accountability. Church is a place to develop and
use your gifts. And you need a pastor, and you
need a consistent theology and by the way.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Oh okay, well, starting right off, if the reasons for
you going to any gathering of believers or a church
is because you like the preaching or you like the
children's ministry, okay, well, then you're in this thing for
the way way wrong reasons. Remember when our foundation scriptures
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for Matthew chapter twenty eight, go into the world preach
and teaching the things that you observed that I've taught
you and in my name, people are going to cast
out devils, they're going to raise the dead, they're going
to heal the sick, and first and foremost, you know,
before they even do all that, they're going to believe
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that Jesus is the one true Messiah, the Savior of
the Son of God, and that his shed blood is
the only thing that can wash us clean of our
sins and give us our admittance into Heaven. He didn't
tell them to go out there and establish anything about
making the preaching sound good or children's ministries. Jesus never
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said anything about that. See, that stuff is part of
this religious man made system that have taken the foundational
teaching and word of Jesus and built their stuff on
top of it.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But not the correct stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Okay, And then church is supposed to be a place
where you find accountability. Well, again, going back to those
scriptures that I read last week, from the Book of Acts,
chapter five, Peter and the apostles clearly said, we are
not accountable to any human authority. We are only accountable
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to God because God is not man.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He's never been man.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, I'm sorry, except for that small period of time
where he lived as a man as Jesus. But okay,
if even then, when I did the teaching on accountability,
I can't remember what episode it is, you have to
go back and look for it, but the series was
called Who's Your Accountant? Talking about this very thing, I
went across multiple scriptures that prove that, no, we are
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not accountable to other humans. Other humans are flesh and
blood just like us, with a spirit living inside of
which means not only have they sinned, but they have
the potential and the capacity to sin again in the future.
So since when is sin supposed to be accountable to
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other sin? Not only that old human on this planet
can save.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Us or will save us.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Only the blood of Jesus can do that after we
ask for it. And as I said, at the end
of these episodes. You can confess your sins to Jesus
and receive Jesus anywhere. It doesn't take you going going
to a church. You can do it anywhere. I do
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it sitting in a room like this that I'll even.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Give it an example.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
If you're sitting on the toilet, all right, well, doing
your usual bodily function, you can call out the Jesus
and accept them. Then it's the Holy Spirit that convicts
us and keeps us accountable to God, not any human.
So right away, all these examples that that he gave
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about why people shouldn't in church hop it is is
man made stuff. It is not scriptural talk about joining
a family. Yeah, Once I have been redeemed back to
God through the blood, through my confession of being a sinner,
and then my receiving of the gift of Jesus's shed blood,
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I become a child of God, Jesus, who is my mother,
who is my brother? Except those who do the will
of the Father. Again, if you're doing the will of
the Father, you don't have to be confined in a
single building to do that. We should be doing it
any and everywhere we go, whether it's in a church building, okay,
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whether it's in a dog on a park bench, whether
it'say in some restaurant we're in, We're always constantly doing
the will of God. So I'm already part of the family.
Once you confess, once you get saved, you're getting grafted
into God's family.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
You become then you become a true child of God.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I'm already in the family. Then, So what are you
saying if I do all this outside of the confines
of some brick and mortar building, that that means I'm
not part of the family. They're wrong, wrong, And the
example he gave by these people going to different places,
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Sir again to quote Jesus again, don't you know that
I have to be about my father's business. When was
Jesus ever confined to one place one place? Yep, scriptures
tell us daily he taught in the temple, But we
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have multiple more scriptures that tell and show us where
he was on the side of lakes and rivers, okay,
in towns, in people's houses, in hotel rooms or inns,
all of these places, all of these different locales outside
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of what's now become known as church. So if Jesus
did that and then again the original Apostolic order. If
they did those same things, then why do we nowadays
have to be confined and belong to one group or
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one assembly of believers and attend that same building every
week with long ass a short We don't have to.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Other pastors would agree with me on this statement. They
would say, yes, if I need someone in our church,
he's a visitor, and I often do. Let's say, well,
I'm visiting from another church. I'll say, oh, what church
do you go to?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Them?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
They'll say, you know, whatever the church is. And generally
my response is, well, I hope you're really involved in
your church, and maybe I know their pastor. I go,
your pastor is a great guy, we're friends, and if
we're friends, I won't say that if I don't know.
Of course, now, occasionally there'll be someone who's going to
a church that teaches false teaching. I would certainly bring
that to their attention, But generally I'll say.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
While the irony generally they're going to a church that
teaches false teaching.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Oh, you mean.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Like the idea of telling people that they should stay
with one group of believers in a church and work
in there to build that up yo, be a.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Vital part of your church. I will not say, oh,
come join our church. Leave your church and come to
our church please, because that's not something I would ever
want to do. I just want to encourage believers to
get plugged in to the church because I think when
they don't do that, they miss out on so much.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Oh kay, miss out on so much. What if people
were actually out there teach the original meaning, the original
definition and original function of the word church, then discussions
like this would never even come up.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And he said, you know, if.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
People to talk to this business, well, I hope you're
active in that church.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's part of the problem.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
These religious organizations or as somebody I often quote on here,
the content creator Gothics as she calls it, Christianity incorporated,
because that's how they run.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
They run like businesses.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And they got you in there busy doing stuff to
get stuff together for this ministry, busy in there getting
stuff together for that ministry, busy in there doing this
for this ministry or this organization, this that, and this,
ma'am's serves. At what point are you all finding out
what spiritual gifts these people have in them and then
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activating or I'm sorry, the Holy Spirit does the activating, cultivating,
and teaching within that gift.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
At what point does that ever come up?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Well, I can tell you from first hand experience in
a lot of instances it doesn't. Is supposed to be
the pastors, the deacons, and then everybody else, and then
everybody else is supposed to operate in whatever capacity the
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pastor thinks that they're supposed to operate in.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
With any teaching that you get.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, maybe on a Sunday morning and Tuesday Wednesday night
Bible study whenever they tend to have it, and that
that that's it. All the rest of the time, you're
run around part of all these different functions and organizations
or whatever to help keep that church running the way
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that pastor wants it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Ran.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Okay, I'm I'm I'm sorry, go out into all the
world preaching teaching about Jesus, about the Messiah, because what
these organizations are supposed to be doing. Again, if they
were operating under the Kingdom principle and not under the
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umbrella of religious Christianity, then you wouldn't even be looking
for people to stay at your spot for any long
any long point of time. They would get whatever they're
supposed to get there and then move on to go out,
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you know, to establish to work in whatever capacity that
God has them working.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
That that that's it.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I'm not here to be active in your different auxiliaries
and and and different little sub committees and clubs and
and all this other stuff y'all got going on in
here just to help, you know, help you look good,
that to help this thing run better in other words
of business. No, that that is not our purpose. That
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is not any believer's purpose. Find out our spiritual gifts.
Get those gifts, cultivate and learn all you can by
it about it.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Should have said.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
And then after that, Okay, God, where is it you
will have me to go to do whatever whatever whatever? Not. Okay,
person who's in charge of this ministry or organization, where
where is it you think I should be functioning there?
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And that's part of the problem that we've had for okay,
dog gone centuries of not millennia. People get too tight
into only following their instruction and hearing the voice of
whether standing behind a podium or a pulpit like this,
and not listening for the voice of God for instruction.
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Jesus said multiple times, I don't do anything that the
Father doesn't instruct me to do before he did everything.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Father, I'm consoling you about it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Father, Father, Father, Father, always going to God the Father
for next step and next instructions.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Did again did did?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Did we see Jesus ever going to those religious leaders,
submitting himself to them, saying.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That he's a chump to whatever they wanted?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Well, no, and rightfully, his soul, thank god he didn't,
because their every waking moment was trying to stop him
and shut him down from preaching and teaching what he
was out there preaching and teaching. So they definitely, you know,
had he gone that route, they would have shut him
up and set him in a corner somewhere. So same
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exact thing, remember, y'all, not not what would Jesus do?
What did Jesus do? And even more importantly, what instructions
did he leave for us to do? And staying confined
to one building, one ministry, one particular group, or as
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simbly of believers is not something that he instructed us
to do.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
All right?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
So speaking of members, because that is usually the word
that people use for those who and join their organization,
they call them members of that right, So let's look
at what scripture has to say about members when it
comes to the body of Christ, believers in God.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And you know what have you whatever term you.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Happen to youth, all right, and let me get myself
out tough here out there we go, all right, Jael.
So the scripture we will be coming from First Corinthians,
chapter twelve, starting with verse number twelve. First Corinthians, chapter twelve,
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starting with verse number twelve. And now will put a
quick palls for those who will be maybe following a loan.
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All right, One Corinthians, chapter twelve, starting with verse number twelve.
And in certain Bibles it has a heading for this section.
That's its unity and diversity in one body. Whereas the
body is one and has many members, but all the
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members of that one body, being many, are one body.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
So also is Christ.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
For by one spirit, we were all baptized into one body,
whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and have
all been made to drink into one spirit. For in fact,
the the body is not one member but many. If
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the foot should say, because I am not a hand,
I am not of the body, is it therefore not
of the body. And if the ears should say because
I am not an eye, I am not of the body.
Is it therefore not of the body. If the whole
body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If
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the whole were hearing, where would be the smelling? But
now God has set the members, each one of them
in the body, just as get this he pleased. And
if they were all one member, where would the body be?
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So in other words, when it talks about members here,
it's talking about members of the body, or another way
to say a thing about this body parts. Yes, the
entirety of these different parts, everything on the outside and inside, is.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Called our body.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
But what he's trying to say here is each part
has its own specific function that it's supposed to carry out.
Eyes for seeing, nose for smelling, arms for everything. The
arms do you know, so forth, ands on, legs for legs,
be for walking. So same thing as in the body
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of Christ. Yes, they're different members, but we have different functions.
Goes right back to what I was saying a few
minutes ago about the importance of the teaching of what
function we're supposed to carry out in that particular group. So,
going by the logic of a lot of people in
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Christian thank God, not all of them, but a lot
of them. Their thinking is first and foremost that we're
their members, or we're members of their church or their ministry. Wrong,
we are not any humans members. We're not any humans sheep,
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We're not any humans.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Flock.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
We all get this, all belong to one and that
is God the Father, right back up here, verse eighteen.
Now God has set the members, each one of them,
in the body, just as he pleased. So let's say
you're part of one of these organizations, part of one
of these ministries. Okay, again, going by their logical up
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you're not supposed to leave and move and go around
to different church.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, if this church.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Has all the members that needs, and I operate in
the capacity of an eye, and there's another group of
believers right up the street who have all the members
of the body they need except for eyes, what sense
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does it make for me to stay here where there's
already and abundance of eyes, and we're all just kind
of running into each other bumping heads when I could
be used in better service at that ministry up the
street who has no eyes and are in need of them.
That is when the Holy Spirit would talk to us
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and God would say, hey, okay, where you're at.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You've gotten everything you needed there, all right.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
You've been taught how to function in the capacity of
an eye, and they've already got plenty of eyes there.
I need you to now go to that group of
the road who needs eyes and use there and complete
that body to help them move along to wherever God
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has for them to go. That is how it's supposed
to be, and verse eighteen clearly establishes that God has
set the members and he moves us in the body
as he pleases, not as some leader over a ministry
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or an organization, how they know please or what they think.
At the end of the day, you had better be
listening for the voice of God, and even more importantly,
you had better be moving and.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Operating off the voice of God.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It doesn't matter what anybody says about it. It doesn't
matter how anybody feels about it. We're not here to
be moved by what other humans say, and we're not
here to be moved by what other humans feel about anything.
Our every step, our every breath, every prayer, every praise,
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every everything is supposed to be instructed orchestrated, motivated and
carried out by God the Father.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
So when the scripture talks about members, is not talking
about rosters and rolls for these different churches. No, no, no, no.
It uses that word as a synonym as an example,
and that's why he use the body parts as an example.
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And this again further goes to what we talked about
in the first episode of this teaching. If there's one
and one church and one body of price, then how
can you hop? You can't hop from one body to
another body. It's impossible. It defies all laws that we
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know of the supernatural of physics and everything else. Matter
of fact, physics, I think it's the first law of
physics that actually says two objects of as a equal
volume a mask can't occupy the same space at the
same time. Something along those lines. For y'all two physicists
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out there, you'll know better how.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
To put that.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
But in other words, okay, yeah, two objects physical objects
can't sit in the same space at the same time.
You can't do it, just like we can't hop out
of one body into the same body or to another body.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You can't do it.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
But we can, durnshore move from one group to the next.
We can darnshaw move from one assembly to the next,
because if God is instructing and orchestrating it, that means
because He has need of you, he has need of
you in that other group or assembly. So if that
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means you got the hop, skip, okay, run, or do
whatever else leaving that place, ain't going to another one
one day, that's just what you do. All right, Let's
go and continue your own with this verse number twenty, yeah,
or verse number nineteen, after they were all one member,
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where with the body be exactly if we were all
laid all the functioning of the body wouldn't work the
way it's supposed to. God created us in our different
body parts slash members the way he did for specific purposes,
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and it's up to us again to listen to him,
find out what that purpose is, and operate in that
purpose to help keep the body of Christ. In other words,
all believers of Christ's moving and going and doing what it.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Is that He asked for us to do here.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right, But now indeed there are many members yet
one body, and the eye cannot say to the hand,
I have no need of you, nor again the head
to the feet.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I have no need of you. No much.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Rather, those members of the body which seem to be
weaker are necessary, and those members of the body which
we think to be less honorable, on these we bestow
greater honor. And our unpresentable parts have greater modesty. Okay, well, right,
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there are unpresentable parts.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
The modesty.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Clearly he's talking about what we designate as private parts. Okay,
and yeah, our private parts we're sure gotta function, all right.
That's how that's how i'm, me and y'all sitting here today.
That's how humanity repopulates itself the only way we can
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do it, all right. But our presentable parts have no need,
but God composed the body, have been given greater honor
to that part which lacks it. That there should be
no schism in the body, but that the members should
have the same care for one another, exactly those of us,
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you know, again, back to our own separate, actual bodies.
If we care about ourselves, and you know, if we
seek to have any type of long life on this planet,
we well, we do what it takes to keep these
bodies functioning as best as possible. And if one member suffers,
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all the members suffer with it. Or if the one
member is honored. All the members rejoice with it. Now
you are the Body of Christ and members individually exactly
as believers. We all compose the one singular Body of Christ.
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Now here is not talking about physical body, spiritual believing
body of Christ, his Kingdom ambassadors here on earth again,
which is another designation. Now this one didn't come from
Jesus himself, but another designation that still is not Christians.
And I say, now you are all Christians and members individually. Yeah,
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our spiritual belief comes together to compose the Body of
Christ ambassadors, those who go about teaching, preaching, spreading the
will of God. But we are also individual I'm me
or you Joe as Joe, Jane and Jane. But at
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the end, what he's saying is we're supposed to have
the mind of God, and when we do come together, okay,
then we're supposed to act on that mind and will
of God, not our own individual interests, because our own
individual interest is going to cause the body to get
out of way, which could be another reason why God
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will instruct.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
You to move from from one.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
One group one place to another one because stuff's.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
All out of wrecking there.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like oh okay, well, I don't need you getting messed
up or contaminated or as it says, to have any
part of this schis them here all right, I've already
got another place where I need you to go in
and put that work in. And again that's what you do.
But no matter where you go, you operate in the
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capacity that God created us for. And no, it is
not hopping. It is not church hopping. It is doing
what the heck God tells you to do, because you're
still functioning. You're still going to another assembly of believers.
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You're still acting and functioning in the capacity that God
wants you to act and function there, just with a
different group, but they're still part of the Body of Christ.
And you're going there as that member that that particular
part of the body needs needs melt.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Just that simple.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
So yes, the original meaning of members is talking about
how we function as part of the Body of Christ,
not again, not being being tied to one particular, one
particular place where your entire belief in life nowhere, nowhere,
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nowhere do you see in the New Testament where the
apostles was once a group had been, a new group
was established where they told them, all right, take take
names of people, take rolls of people again, some something
that was being made added on all under the auspices
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of human not God.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
All right, And.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Speaking of members of churches of organizations, there's another very
prevalent and evident reason why some of these people have
a problem.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
When they're so called members leave or.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Dismissed themselves from that particular place and go somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
All right, you go.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
To a new window here, all right. Yeah, that's typing
in churches get money for Yeah, I see that members.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
That's a good way to type it in. Blow this up.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
So I typed in to googly, Do churches give money
for their members?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
See?
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Churches typically rely on donations from their members and others
to fund their operations and ministries, but they generally do
not directly pay money to their members, unless for specific
services or programs. Okay, many churches strive to be transparent
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about their finances, right.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Sure they do. They're supposed to be nonpropers. I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
All right, let's ask this a different way. Does the
governing meant not fun churches? That's the government. They churches
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for their members, all right? So this time I typed in,
does the government paid churches for their members. Know, the
US government does not directly pay churches or they're just
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organizations for their members, but they are eligible to apply
for government grants on an equal footing with other non
governmental organizations to indirect aid. Some programs may provide aid
to religious organizations, such as vouchers or certificates. Oh goodness, man,
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that's Reddit, and I don't want to go there. So
uh yeah, actually there is that. I guess maybe I'm
not typing it in to Google rate. But on their
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Texas and it's just like the personal income taxas we do. Yes,
on church Texas, they do get back more a bigger
return depending on how many members they have on the books.
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Now I know that for a fact. Like I said,
I don't think I'm typing in the probably not typing
in the question right. So in other words, as I
was saying, that's another reason why some of these church
leaders have a problem when when there are members quote
unquote leave from that church because that's less money they're
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gonna be able to or less people they're gonna be
able to claim on those taxes to get that return back.
So yes, that that that is a real thing. Okay,
unless laws have completely changed in the ten years that
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I've disassociated myself from Christianity and these religious organizations. But
I know before then, yes, they would get money. There
was pretty much think of people as text write offs.
That's exactly what they were. But anyway, coming on back,
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so yeah, there it is right there, y'all. Churches or
church originally.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Talking about actual people. Us.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
We are the church, we are the body of Christ.
Originally it was not talking about buildings. And no, the
Bible does not say anything about leaving from around one
group of believers and going.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
To another and then going to another.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
In fact, as we saw from the scriptures that we read,
that's exactly what Jesus and the Apostles did. They went
around different groups and they said, hey, as many as
believed they got saved at that time and that day,
and then they went on to the next group, and
the next group, and the next way, and so forth
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and so on.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
The buildings where.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
These people gathered together eventually came in because it was
just convenient.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
It wasn't possible for the Apostles to go to every
single house and preach and teach Jesus. But they did
establish elders in these different communities, people who knew the
people in that community and knew their needs, they could
get out and do it. But again still the idea
came about of just like originally with the temples, just
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a place for people to gather there here the hear
about Jesus get saved prophesy if there was a prophetic
word for the house, and then dismissed and going about
their business. But it was the early century church, as
with so much of all this ridiculous mess that is
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still to this day going on, that started mess like
creating church laws and bylaws and all these so called
sub ministries and all that that all that mess again
just gathered itself over over the years. But back to
the point, No, there is no prohibition and there's no
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restriction from God about leaving one group and going to
join on to another, and possibly even leaving that one
and then going and joining on to another, and so
forth and so on. So as the title says, this notion,
this idea of church hopping, is not real. It's not
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real trying to keep people confined to one place. That
is just a form of control, that's all that is.
And as I said, also again unless the laws have changed.
It's also a form of receiving more tax money for
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people who are on those membership roles. That's all it is.
All it is control and money. Now, I know, shocker,
right when it comes to these religious organizations. But anyway,
so I also mentioned last week about a letter. I
started talking about that, and that's a good friend of
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mine who's been in this game, coming up from thirty years.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
What the name of that letter was.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
He knew exactly what I was talking about, but he
said he doesn't think it has a particular name. But anyway,
what this letter is say, I'm a member of the Avengers, okay,
and I want to leave the Avengers church and go
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over to the x Men Church.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Well, the x.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Men that depends on you know, how they operate. They
might tell me that they need a letter of One
of the terms he said he thinks they used for
is a letter of release. We need a letter of
release from the Avengers saying that that church leader gives
permission for you to now join the x Men church.
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And again, this is something I have heard about firsthand,
and I'm like, wait a minute. So when I stopped
and thought about that thing, I'm like a letter So
I need a letter from this organization saying that they
release me. You mean release me like I belong to you,
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like you have ownership of me, and I'm now being released,
So this new church can now have ownership of me.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
So we're talking about papers and releasing and ownership. That
kind of sounds like slavery, which is not surprising because
we're talking about people who operate in religion, and we
were already discussed and broken down way way back.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
When you break down.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
The word religion, it ultimately comes down to bondage or slavery.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Now, is the.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Basis for this particular letter whatever the actual official name
of it is, is it founding scripture? And my friend
who was talking about it, he was like, no, that
mess ain't found in scripture, he said, because it's not scripture. Wrong,
he said, it's just another form of these people to
exercise some sort of control over people.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Why do I need a letter?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I don't remember signing a letter when I first joined
up at this at this Avengers church, So why do
I now need a letter to go and join up
with this group of believers saying that that you released
me again? Like I said, like, like we're like they
owned us or something. Well, according to the word of God,
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no you don't. But there's still plenty of them out
there who operate like that. And it's sad because people
who don't know no better, people who will not take
the time to pick this thing up, actually read and
pray about it, or pull up their dog on Bible
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app or or whatever it is. However you get your word,
because they're putting their faith in trust in these women
and men just because they have some title and they
sound good and they're standing up in the pool pit
or well clearly that they won't ever leave me wrong.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Why not? They're human. Put your trust in no man,
and that that's scriptural study.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
To show yourself approved, that's scriptural. God wasn't didn't keep
reiterating about studying and about wisdom and about getting knowledge
for no dog One reason it was so when half
cracked stuff like this comes up, that will have the
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defense to say, no, I don't have to do that,
or no, you are completely wrong. According to God, this
ain't real, something man made, and y'all, anything that's man made, okay,
if it ain't got then it's influenced by Satan plainness symbol.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
So I'm like, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
It's definitely a good thing that I've excused and dismissed
myself from all that, because the first time you tell
me in order to come here and worship, will do
whatever I need to go back and get a letter
of that last ministry releasing me or whatever.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
I'm like, oh, okay, I hear you.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
See you when I see you, because I won't not
be coming back here, much like Jesus said, have to
be about my father's business, not other humans dumb mess
all right, all right, So in the words of Forrest Gump,
that's all I got to say about that. So that
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is it, good people, That is it for tonight. But
but but.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
If you want to be.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Part of the true original Church, then again, just just
call out to Jesus.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
If you have the faith, if you have.
Speaker 1 (48:38):
The faith, if you have the faith that he is
truly the Savior and the Messiah, call out to him,
think out to him, right out to him.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
However you got to do it. Just reach out to him.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Confess that you know you're a sinner, you know you're
done messed up, you know you're going to team to
do it. But what you also now know is that
will lead you ultimately straight to the lake of fire
and eternal separation from God. And you also know you
don't want that. Reach out to Jesus, I messed up.
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I believe your blood, your shed blood, can save me.
I receive it. Father, I've confessed my sins. I've received
the blood gift. The war are more important, the wash
and clean gift salvation from your son.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Hey, no'm reached out to you.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
You know, send me that Holy spirit quick fans all right,
fat exit ups it overnight. However, you got to give
it to me, and give it to me quick, to
rightly activate these gifts that you put in me before
I was even born, and to go about doing your
kingdom work wherever it is you will have me to
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do it God, and put kingdom minded people, teachers, instructors,
other believers in my path to help me along so
that we can get together a and do this.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
Thing all right, get get it knocked out.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Why we still have this time on this planet and
then wrap it on up with And Jesus, is in
your name that I do pray this and I believe it.
Amen and Amen means so let it be is done.
That's all it takes. And then after that, if you
want to he celebrating, you know, grab yourself a nice
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cool beverett sip on it.
Speaker 2 (50:44):
Relax, be full of joy, be happy, because.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
God, the Father, Jesus, all the heavenly angels, they will
be celebrating with you because they know that's one more
soul that will not be in Satan in the Lake
of fire.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
And on the other hand, Satan.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Is gonna be furious because he knows that's one more
person that will not be joining him in the Lake
of fire. And his whole embo, his old modus operendi,
is to have as many human souls sent there as possible,
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eternally separated from God, because he knows that that's that
that you know that that's where you that's where his
guard at, his God at in his heart. By having
many people and influencing I'm not going to say making,
because he doesn't make us do anything, but by influencing
as many human as possible to disregard God turn their
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back on him. And you're not real man, I don't
need you.
Speaker 2 (51:53):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
So we won't be joining Satan. We don't want to
give him any victory, okay, at all?
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (52:04):
But it starts with faith, and it starts with belief
that Jesus is the only way that you'll get to
see the opposite of eternal damnation and eternal separation, eternal life,
eternal peace, eternal bliss, and it ain't gonna be found
on this planet. Okay, okay, all right, Chael. So as
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always this old country boy does. Thank y'all for joining
taking this ride with me. Listen to me joe on
about it. Thank y'all, soul so much.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
Remember, hey, love yourselves, treat yourselves well, but strive to
treat other people just a little bit better then you
treat yourself. Love them, even if you have to do
it from Afar, because some people, they they they just
ain't gonna allowed to happen one on one in them persons.
So hey, if you got to do it from Afar,
do it from Afar. Listen, listen, and to the instruction
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of God, and you move and go wherever He tells
you to, no matter what any human on this planet says, well,
you know, beyond the shadow of a doubt is God.
And then especially if He bless you to send somebody
behind with prophetic gifting, that just confirms what he told you.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
Shouldn't even be a question, y'all.
Speaker 1 (53:25):
Move, go operate exactly how God wants us to. All right, So, y'all,
until we meet again, God bless us, we'll come back together,
do it all again.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Take another ride. I want to thank y'all.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Y'all be blessed, y'all, be safe, love y'all, thank you
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Tradition channel where all the videos are uploaded.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
While you're there, if.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
You would kindly leave a light on the video, leave
a comment, follow the channel, and if you know somebody
who might want to hear the information or who might
need to hear the information, they definitely share it with them.
All completely for free, y'all. I don't do memberships for it,
don't do subscriptions for it. So listen to it, download
(54:32):
and share, it to your heart's content. And for those
of y'all who may be watching this, if you want
to catch the episodes on the go, then head over
to Spotify, head over the Amazon Audible, head over to iHeartRadio,
and head over to speaker dot com, where again the
audio versions are uploaded at the same time the videos
are uploaded. And it's the same deal. Listen to them,
(54:56):
download them, share them for free, no charge whatsoever. Jesus
already paid the price. Also, there's nothing that I could
charge on top of this that would be sufficient. It's
not my information to charge for anyway. It's all the
word of God. So Lord, we thank you, all right,
So guys, until then, be safe, be blessed, and we
(55:19):
will see y'all when we see you.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Peace,
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