BagSeedTV w/ Chucky Pollens Featuring AppyHillsGrower s01e09

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, happy, Where should we even start? I think
today we're just gonna have a kill day, bro, because
we did last time. We did a two hour interview, man,
So I just wanted to give you some time to
kind of talk about stuff you wanted to talk about,
and we canna hang out in kick it a little bit, bro.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
But first things first? Would you do for four to
twenty bro?

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Uh? Pressed a bunch of H and L stuff?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Nice anything?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I got about a twenty percent return on my press
of the H and L five hundred, and it's amazing.
I mean to be able to get not only a
chance to grow the contest up, and I'm going to
be putting Po's contest uff in the tent hopefully the
day or tomorrow of the number two. I have two

(00:50):
of the number two mutants that are doing real well
now they weren't doing worth a darn in the very beginning.
And then I've got five of the number ten replacements
that he sent me along with the hat. But I
mean just getting to grow stuff that you It's fun

(01:12):
because I know somewhat what to look for, because I've
got to after glow in the five by five and
flower right now, and I know all three streams because
I've gotten to grow all three. Yeah, but only two
of them that I've gotten to grow by themselves, which

(01:33):
was the train Wreck and the Blue Dream because it's
Blue Dream times Mango Hayes crossed to the ATW.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
That's awesome, man.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I just finished up some ATW nots literally a few
weeks ago, chopped a little bit early because I fucked up.
I was trying to pollinate a couple of things due
and I had a big fuck up.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Basically, I pollinated too much.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
So I went ahead and just bro I probably added
maybe a week or two left buzz, went in chopped
and then hung them up just to get the seed.
And then I got cuts of the ATW. I only
got two. I only had two left in that S
one pack. For anyone that doesn't know that's watching Atw's
arcadea train wreck from POK, it's the s ones that

(02:17):
we're talking about, not the actual cut, but uh yeah, man,
that's that smell. Maybe you could talk about yours a
little bit, but the smell on that train wreck is
so strong and raunchy. I'm not a super huge fan
of like it by itself, but when it's into the
crosses that I've tried so far, dude. It makes everything awesome, dude,
at least from from that i've tried, you know. And uh,

(02:40):
I just grew out some of those s ones again
and it just reminded me of how much I would
love that in like a cross, bro, you know, the
what did you?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
And that's what I and that's what I'm going to
get the opportunity with with that after glow. That's what
I'm really excited about, because what I what you said,
pencil shaving. So that's a great example and I can
see where somebody might smell that for sure. But what
I got the first time I smelled it from my
background is metal shop. Okay, wait, wait that that the

(03:15):
smell of the day after somebody being in there grinding
and welding. Okay, that's it's a It's just such freaking
metal shop. It's not even funny. I mean probably right
back to the service, I'm like, oh shit, all right.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
There there were some stuff years ago I came across, uh,
and I can't remember what the fuck it was called,
some kind of something push in Kentucky.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Back then, like you know, you don't know whatever they
call it probably wasn't it obviously stuff like that. So like,
but I remember I got this QP off off of
one of my dudes. I didn't really mess with that much,
and uh, he gave me something due that smells just
like a metal shop dude like but not not like
a greasy uh.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Smell like ground metal.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, like like almost even though you can't smell the
taste of like electric, like you ever put like a
nonvold battery on your tongue and there's something like there's
something about that even though it's like a on your
tongue or something, you can kind of smell that metally
weird smell while you're doing I don't know, kind of
just reminds you like a real yeah, like metal shavings
or something. But I haven't experienced that a whole lot.

(04:21):
I know some of the guys talk about in the discord,
but I haven't experienced that a whole lot. So that's
cool that you're getting that. I want I wonder if
it's a different uh. I mean, what are you growing?
What media are you using or were you.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
How you okay?

Speaker 2 (04:33):
And you're using general hydroponics.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yep, And I quit using pro white. I repot right
back in the same pot. I'll take the heart of
the root ball, so I'll use some type of blade
to get down in there, try to cut the root ball,
just riding along the main stem, and then leave the
rest in there, because that's all aeration, right, and the

(05:00):
ritual actually par me.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Do you watch any of the cocoa and stuff. I
just wonder if, like, does you any salt build ups
or anything. I mean, I've seen it, so I'm just
I don't.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
I try not to over use newts now I do.
I go right up to that edge. But I mean
you can see the ice outside of the pots. I mean,
if they're pretty pure white. God, damn, you're feeding too much,
you know, right, And that's why I want to come
up with that sip system that you know. I was

(05:32):
trying to do it in that five gallon bucket and
then found out after you said something. Five gallons just
too big for a five by five. I mean, I
don't see how the hell of a person in a
four by four is using anything bigger than three gallons.
I mean, three gallons is almost too big for a
four by four. Do a bunch of ones?

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, Well, that being said, I should I should speak
on that. The reason why I personally grow in smaller
pots nowadays is because I'm doing a lot. I wouldn't
even call them because I'm not a breeder bro, but
I'm I'm just I'm doing numbers because you know, if
you want to find good plans, you probably need to
run some numbers. So like realistically, like carrying you know, okay,

(06:11):
I can't really speak about how many plants, but say
you say you've got X amount of plants and there
are two stories up in an old house, like trying
to carry five gallon worth of are your you know,
all that soil, dude, Like it's impos's it's impossible, man.
So it's not impossible, but it's just when you're confined
in little spaces, you know how it is, bro growing
in little spaces like that, trying to move around dirt

(06:33):
in five six tenths and when they're all there's a
foot to walk in between, I just, oh, yeah, it's
just too much. So like having a one gallon plant pot,
you know, and if I that being said, if I
like something, I'm gonna probably run it in three or
or four or five gallon most likely, you know, if
I want to get some kind of weight, but a
lot of times i'm growing, man. You know, I'm not
really growing for weight, because that's not you know, I'm

(06:56):
growing for effects and flavor and religious exploring different genetics
is really.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Why I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
But yeah, absolutely, yeah, But yeah, if you the three
pots of work are the three gallons were great, dude,
if as long as you ain't fucking with like a
lot of hazes and ship did because I fucked up
and tried to do well, that'd be.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
There was like two gowns. I tried to fuck around
with some of them p Hayes and lower gallon or
smaller pot before I was really dialed in on how
to use canna the right way, and they totally were
under fed, dude, Like for sure, looking back, like I
fucking sucked on that run.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
But but the pictures I posted in discord of the
second run of the H and L five hundred, that's
all three gallons.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
What's the difference that you've noticed from growing in like
a five or something versus now, honest to.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
God, that three gallons were hell out healthier. Yeah, the
dry backs easier to regulate on a three gallon. Yeah,
then it is a five gallon pot that I had
my FIP system on those five gallons. It dried back,
which you don't want it to go. You don't want

(08:03):
leaves curling, but you definitely want your soil to dry back. Yeah,
and then give it more water. I mean, that's that's
the eight number one thing they You know, everybody preaches
about my one believe in And as far as ass
by rookies is overwatering, you're you love to plant too much.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, old ladies. She'll show me pictures of like random shit.
She she's on Reddit all the time. Bro, She'll show
me stuff. She's like, you ever seen this auto flower?
She gets on it for some reason, they send She
don't even look at weed pictures, but they for some
reason her things hurt us talking about them or something.
So she'll get random pictures or Reddit articles about auto flowers.

(08:47):
And she sent me one of this dude who yielded
out like two pounds. But he did it in uh
he did it on rockall cubes there. I don't know
what sizes, but he had them stacked bro on top
of each other. It was weird. It was like they
had like five cubes. This is probably two or foot
two to two and a half foot tall, right, And the
way the roots I thought was wild because it looked
like a trunk. The way they grew down through like

(09:08):
that almost it was real, like a big I don't know,
it's different. I've never I've never grown like that, so
it was really interesting to look at.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
But oh yeah, the same thing is that the heavy
woven pots. I think that's what you like using, isn't it?
The real heavy weave on those pots?

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I did, But lately I switched over to uh, if
I'm doing one gallons, I'll have switched over to the
smart weather. I think they're a smart pots or whatever.
I don't know, bro, the ac Infinity nursery.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, the black the black non woven pots.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, I guess they're non woven. I'm not sure. I think.
So where's like the big fabrice pots of the woven ones, right.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, where you've literally you can see the hash mark,
you know, of the weave on a woven pot and
the black fabric. You know you think that oh those
are woven. No, they're just kind of meshed together.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I've been using the ac Infinity
one gallons, Like I said, if I'm just doing a
run to trust stuff out and stuff like that, and
I've done it with a lot of different cultivars and
had great success doing it this last run doing it
that way. So you know, I keep coming back to, like,
you know, is there any really one particular good way

(10:23):
to do stuff?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Because it's like every time.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
I try to get do better, I do feel like
I'm in that stage of where I am improving a lot,
you know. So you know, I don't know, I've always
think about this kind of stuff. Man, this is a
deeper topic for someone like me. I mean, honestly, do
the way I grow is just pretty pretty simple. Throw
shit in, watch it. It looks like it's going through

(10:47):
some problems. I'll diagnose it, figure out what it is,
and go from there. The science and stuff, I'm not
that type of guy. I don't do a lot of
reading and shit, so a lot of stuff I'm going
off of just instinct, visuals and experience.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
So you know, but yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Works better because you can you can overcomplicate things real quick. Yeah,
And I mean, come on, man, I'm using general hydropomics. Yeah,
some freaking cow mag and the silica and you know,
and recharge every once in a while, yep. And I

(11:25):
mixed everything up and there's thirteen gallon freaking trash cans
and put my mosquito dunk in with them as my PM.
And now I've got the I went out and bought
the Captain Jack's Dead Bugs, SPINNI Sad concentrate and if
it's in vegs screwed, I'm spraying. Yeah, I'm just gonna

(11:48):
that's gonna be my PM.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, I mean, ideally if you could, I know you've
had trouble Thrips' that's you know, people watching probably like, oh,
but but yeah, I mean you've had trouble with in
the past, so it's like especially if yeah, if you
want to, I think it's been a couple of times
you ran into them, so you know, going ahead and
doing that spray's worth it, dude, just because like it's

(12:11):
it fucking sucks getting halfway through your flower run, bro
and realizing you got some kind of infestation. That happened
to me last Yeah, oh dude, I was so fucking mad.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I had so many as a resurrection run out there.
I did some stuff from matt Elite Hnel, the Beaumont's
s OV a couple other things I still got. I
still got a good run out of it because they
didn't really hit real hard till the end. But dode
such a disappointing feeling, like opening that tent and noticing
you got thrips or something, you know, like oh god sucks,

(12:43):
you know, or PM or whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
You know. Yeah, yeah, you see here, we're like I said,
we're on an eighty two acre farm, and you know,
I gotta do the medwing on two yards. We'd whipping
on two yards, but now I don't. I don't even
wear a hat or a shoe that I freaking used
to to do any of that. Yeah, and it's helped.
I haven't had one one trail on any new new growth,

(13:07):
and I've not seen one flyer and probably a month
or two. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, you know though it's they're a pain to ask, dude.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I had to shut everything down, and uh, you know,
kind of coincided. It was like my dad being sick,
so I kind of was like I was able to
do that. I know some guys, and guys will tell
them there's no way you gonna be able to shut
your growth gross completely down, but uh yeah, I mean
that's that was the first time I've really dealt with
a major problem like that. I got a little PM
every once in a while, not you know, a lot

(13:39):
a lot of that's. I do that to myself because
I'm cramming too many fucking plants and I'm getting it
under control though.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Happy, I'm setting up.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I got that by ready, Dude, I got the A
C infinity uh, ac unit heder d Humidified coming tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
It's literally gonna be here tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
So that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm so hyped, dude. It might be a piece of junk.
I don't know a C.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
If you're watching Good Boy up with a sponsor, you
know they make great products. Uh. I wish I could
have a bunch of ACM for any tense put there
a little bit on my price range.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Happy, Yeah, Well, I wish I could have a few
more of the six inch fans.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, those are expensive. Well, you know they're worth it, though.
That's all I use now is those the I think
it's with the S six or T six six inch
oscillating I think now or whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
And my goodness, the difference between the difference between the
well heck hold on a second, I'm gonna hop off
camera for just a second.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I almost smoke. I meant to tell you I'm smoking
some Loopa's head headband today. Bro, I'm fucking hype dude
getting lit today on the screen.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Van. I was just gonna grab these two fans and
shill everybody. The difference between the two. If you've got them,
and all you gotta do is if you've bought one
of the older models of the A, you can call
them and tell them, hey, look, i've got one of
the old ones that won't oscillate anymore. What the heck

(15:07):
is in it? Well, that's not gonna work. I've got
that darn thing plugged in.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
That's all good, I said. I wondering where you gonna
rip a fan?

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Well, I've I've got to break this tent that this
is the one that's getting everything. So there's a new one. Sorry,
I'm not too good holding it the best. But you
can see the size of that motor, all of the
new button controls compared to how short that motor is
and how basic those button controls are. And if you

(15:38):
call them, they don't even want the old ones back.
I've still got both my old ones now, branded. One
of them doesn't oscillate worth a damn. The other one
clicks and makes all kinds of horrific noises. But the
new ones are awesome.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Oh man, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
So anybody watch and you got problems with your old as,
hit them up, get your.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Your warranty guys, make sure you get in there, and
if you need them replaced, replace them before the two
year warranty. They don't ask any questions.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
See, when I first started buying some of those fans,
I heard the back when those were having problems. I
ended up going with the manual, non oscillating ones, and
those have worked excellent. I've been some of them were
are three or four years old, going every day.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
But uh, once they redesigned them, I started, especially when
we were talking about PM earlier. When I first moved
up there had a couple of problems, so I had
to get the air flowing better, bro, And I was like, man, maybe.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I just fucking spend some money.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
So I'll spend probably three hundred dollars a bunch of
oscillating fans, you know, and uh, they've been working great, dude.
I can't complain about them. Some you know, if anybody
else knows any good fans I us know. I know
that the marshydro one if you read some of the
excuse me, man, I'm burping and ship the Mars hydro ones. Uh,

(16:55):
if you read them on the reviews, the people say
those get hot, like on the where you plug in
the outlet, the outlet gets hot, or like the actual
cord where in connects. I was like, fuck that, I can't.
I don't know, and maybe that's just a problem with Mars.
I like a lot of Mars product products. But yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Skept getting those fucking fans and stuff. Dude.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
So AC, you've been a c stuff. AC makes good ship, bro,
you know they do. They make good stuff, and.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
You can't be the price for aces.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, I mean, obviously there's better commercial grade ship out there,
but that's probably out of your or at least my
price range. I mean some of that ship's crazy, dude,
for some of these these commercial guys.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Use it's like those big AC units and d human friers.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
I can't afford that ship, bro, probably pay could any
power some of that ship on my setup?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Dude ship?

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah, Well, that's that's the lovely thing about being a
manualabor my whole life. But I did electrical work for
almost ten years and I wired the shed with independent circuits,
all twenty amps a piece.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
So nice.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I might have to get you to walk me through
a hooking up a forty amp, dude, because I'm nervous.
That shit makes me nervous. I got shocked real bad
working for a guy of years ago. Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
We were changing smoke detectors on.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
An apartments, bro and all that wiring and shit, and
I actually touched the wrong thing. Bro.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I got lit the fuck up on a ladder.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
So I just and I got lit up one time
in a fish tank, Dude, I was fucking with a
fish tank.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
I used to have a bunch of fish tanks and shit.
I love like that kind of shit.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
And uh, I fucking bought these cheap Chinese fucking eBay
lights or whatever, the cheapest thing in.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
The world, you know, thinking I'm saving a buck, you know.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
And uh, dude, one day I lean down on a
fish tank, chuck my finger down in the water.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Lit me up, dude. I'm talking like fucking bad.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
My arm for like a week feel like I kicked
by like a mule or something. Dude. Oh, my God,
scared me. This just makes me nervous now, so I
might have to get you to I might have to. Uh,
I'll fly you out on the company credit card.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
And it just set me up.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Well, where are you putting the breaker in that up
there where you're moving to? Uh?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
In the garage?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I already got a little breaker in here, but that
I don't know much A lot a lot about electricity.
But this ships set up on like the old fuse boxes.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
It's a I think it's thirty thirty AMP something like
it or something like that.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I don't know. Well, hoping it works for me, fam.
If not, we're gonna have some a lot of fun
here real soon. But luckily out here I'm in the
garage right now. All the wiring shit's exposed, so I
can get to it, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
So yeah, yeah, it should be all right.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I got, man, something I noticed I was sitting here
looking at the windows the other day, because with that
ah infinity UH unit, you can like you know, you
conduct it out your window or whatever. And uh, it's
like looking at some of these windows, I got real old,
historical like type windows even in this garage or some
old windows, and UH are real fuck with these and

(19:59):
uh it's so I'm looking around and I don't know
why it hit me. I go over the corner and
there's where the fan or the fucking stove exhausts. There,
six inch stove exhaust. I was like, funk, I was
tying right there. Shoot that ship up the roof, dude.
Yeah hot air rises, get it out, dude. So I
don't even have to tap into a window.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Are you got?

Speaker 1 (20:18):
That's what's cool. I didn't even think about it. I'm
a dumb ass bro. It hit me one day. I
was like, I was tight in that old uh you.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Know, is that hooked up to a gas powered heater
for your house?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
No old wood stove?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Oh got you got you got you got you got you.
You gotta think you're gonna you're gonna be You're gonna
be pressurizing that.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, I think you know, as long as as long
as you can yeah close to the the dampener and
no air is getting back into the house, You're awesome.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Well, I figure what I'll do is put a uh
something to do like a filter or something. The AC
actually makes some nice little dampers and ship. Bro, I
don't have you ever looked at some of their products,
but they make all kinds of shiit. Uh, I'm I'm
probably gonna have to do it. Yeah, I do some
kind of I've already looked at some of those dampers
and some of them got mixed reviews, not the AC

(21:14):
Infinity ones. I've been looking around some products, but uh,
I think, yeah, I'm gonna have to fuck with and
if that don't work, I'll I'll figure out something else out.
But I thought maybe I could just run that up
to that dude, because it's just the old. Uh, it's
just the old like six inch or eight inch pipe
running out. I think all the the attachments on that
AC unit are six inches as well.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
So I'll just back. Yeah, yeah, I'm a hope.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Insteads hooked up to you don't even have to worry
about a damper.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
No nothing, No, there's nothing. It's literally the I.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Got it old.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Oh I thought you still had hooked up clarified.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, I got a old it's the previous owner took
their stove with them. I got an old cast there
in stove, uh that I meant to hook up to it.
But this thing, he's eight hundred pounds bro and Uh,
I got it pretty far away from here, so it's
like trying to get it on the trailer and get
it here and all the ship it's yeah, so it's
not gonna not gonna work there, fam Uh, when you
moved out of state, you don't realize how important it is.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
To have a good hand or two. Uh when when
you fucking need it.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Dude, as I'm getting older, it's like you fucking need
you know, it's need help. So you know it's somebody
that's something that bothers me in the world. You know,
people need to work more together, man, and realize like
back in the day, my grandparents tell me stories about
how back in the day they fucking the whole neighbor
would the whole neighborhood would come and help them change
their their shingles on their roofs and all this ship. Bro,

(22:36):
And like, I don't know, people are two button heads nowadays.
Not to get crazy or political or anything, but just
when you bring them back together, brother, we need some
unity in the community.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Count on each other.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
You know, Well, you did a lot of awesome work
this weekend, and everybody that's in the know knows what
I'm talking about. So that was awesome to see our
community come together this weekend. That was that made me.
That made me very proud to be part of the discord.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Yeah, I mean, dude, we got to man, you gotta think.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I I you know, I sat around for a while
and and not to go into the drama or the
topics or that all that stuff, but I sat around
for a few days, uh doing some edibles like crazy,
and I was just kind of bummed out. And then uh,
I fucking I was sitting there and was like, man, like,
what the fuck? Slap myself out of that. It's like, dude,
I gotta do something from Matt. And then uh so

(23:29):
it's where we are, you know, that happened. So I
was like a center thinking. You know, sometimes you know,
even though we're all friends, they're like the internet, some
of us are met in person shit like that. Y'all
are my friends just as much as my real life friends.
I talked to y'all. Uh you know, people have grown
up with for twenty years, just as much as I
talk to y'all. So it's like, you know, what kind
of friend would I be just sitting around not doing nothing.

(23:51):
And then I think, on top of that and now
in today's weed communities, Bro, everybody's out for themselves. Bro,
and like everybody leaves and goals and starts their own ship,
and like it just don't make no sense. You know,
Like if we all stick together, we're stronger. Uh, you know,
we can accomplish more. And we got more brains, more
dicks to combine to get ship done. Bro. You know,

(24:15):
I don't know, Well.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
If you truly think about it, think about the breeders
that are there, bidders a lot, you know, Pat, H
and L a bunch of those guys. Nobody comes in
with an ego, No, nobody's nobody is putting it out
there for clout. No, they're putting it up out there

(24:38):
that they're passionate about.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Those guys don't want those guys don't even want to
be on camera really or I don't even want to
talk about their ship really.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah? Cool? And I mean H and L come on, dude,
I mean, have you heard anybody complain about something that
he's putting out?

Speaker 2 (24:57):
No?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
No, and not once does he his own damn horde.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
No, dude, everything everything's mids And whenever he talks about
uh stuff to me, he's like all my ship's mids.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Fam.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I'm like, yeah, growing mids, I'm growing trash.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Dude, you know, yeah, But you know, uh, Hnl is
one of the best people outside I'm not even talking
to weed, dude, I'm just in general. He's one of
the best people I've ever been around or had the
pleasure to meet. And I hope, I hope you get
to meet him at some point due because you I
think you'd get along with him real good. He's he's
a he's a cool guy and real He's been good

(25:35):
to me, and he's been good to Matt and everybody else.
And I can't better than them too. I can't sing
enough about them. It's just that, uh, you know, I
talked to h and L a lot because we you know,
I'm from Kentucky's from uh Virginia and I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Kindred spirits.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
We both like uh cookies and creaming bars and moss,
I don't know, we both like to hunt moss out
in the woods, fam, I don't know. We were hanging
out at the party and uh, I was like, I'm
really into collecting moss and like that kind of ship
and he was like, for real, I thought he was
making fun of me, and I was like, yeah, I
like that ship.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Moss is cool.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I used to collect a lot of Java moss and
stuff in the aquariums. I just always been into aquatics. Yeah,
especially stuff like that, uh, playing moss and different things
and uh and we got to talk about that cookies
and cream and bars and ship and we realized we
got a lot of shit in common.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
So uh but.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, I don't know h and l shut out if
you if you ever watched these man, I love you, dude.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yeah much.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
He takes pictures.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I'm hoping to meet him one of these days because uh,
he's not gonna be too far off my path when
I got to see my son, because my son lives
out in Norfolk. So oh well, I would definitely like
to sit down and have a sandwich in with the
man one of these days.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, man, just keep on what you're doing. Happy, And
I think that all happened. Dude.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
You know there's guys like you in the in the
discord that you know, maybe aren't breeders or hell, I'm
not even a breeder, but uh, just people like you
that do make the community good and special. And uh,
you know you and Lazarus and a few other I'm
missing people and I'm sorry, but there's a lot of
people that take a lot of their time out and
contribute to the community, and uh I think that's important

(27:14):
and it means it means a lot, and uh I
think Matt and the crew value people like that more
than anything. Like, if you come into a crew, I
don't know, I can only speak about like ours are.
But if you come in there talking about you know,
trying to get cuts or talking, this is the best
thing in the world. And I grow the best weed

(27:35):
in the world. And like you know, we talked about
earlier with the egos, if you're coming in like that, bro,
it's probably not really the place for you, really, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
And those guys are like the most.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, there's good people, like the people that I always
sought off, sought out to search for when I got
into like looking for people online, you know, good people,
people that I want to hang out and be friends with,
not just some weird like thing where I'm buying seat
from some guy and that's the only thing that's really
going on. I Mean, I've had deep conversations with Matt,
personal conversations. It's not just weed, you know, And We've

(28:12):
talked about that on the podcast last night. It's not
just weed, Like I love weed, man, it's my life.
Everything has been a big fucking weed movie for me.
But you know, as I've gotten older, it's like, you know,
the relationship. When I was a kid, I wanted to
get away from where I was at. I wanted to
go see the world, bro and meet all these people
and doing shit. But as I've gotten older, it realized

(28:34):
to me how important those relationships I built and that
I build now and maintaining them in friendships really, because
everybody as we get older, people start to die, man,
and you lose friends, and it's a lonely world out there, man.
And what the fuck's good having a jar weed if
I can't talk to somebody about it.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah, yeah, so I forget that lucky opportunity of being
able to share it with people.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, not to get all fucking you know, for their
two hill at kit home growers, but yeah, it's it's
a I fucking I've been having a good time, dude.
It's been fun and meeting guys like y'all or you
you too, I mean, just having a blast two rednecks
just cutting up. I don't know, Join the discord, guys.

(29:20):
I got oh, I got banners for you guys. Now
hold up, we got I gotta run these for Matt
real quick. Join the twitch where we're on Twitch Now
we do have a Twitch channel. Matt's trying to switch
it up. We're trying to be on different platforms and
things like that, so, uh, you know, just to show
we're in more places, we did have to switch from Patreon.
So if you're viewing this confused on what's going on,

(29:41):
or maybe you got refunded through Patreon or some weird shit.
I know there's a lot of people that watch that
don't uh, they're not in the discord, so uh, what's
happened basically is Patreon has closed the account for a
breeder syndicate essentially, So Matt, if you're if you're having
problems with that and you're on like the fifty tier, especially,
get a hold of Matt.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Join the discord. I think there's actually an email on
one of these. I'm not sure if there is.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
If not, just try to get a hold of Matt.
And he's not trying to be weird or do anything funny.
He literally have just lost a lot of the addresses
and things on that. So please, if you are on
the fifty tier and you're not in discord or whatever,
don't know what's going on, get a hold of Matt
so you can get taken care of. He's fixing all
the stuff for everybody, so make sure you get ahold

(30:27):
of them. I think I can't remember the email, but anyways,
so yeah, if you're having problems with Patreon bullshit, you're
getting weird emails about the breecher sindicit shit through Patron. Yeah,
we switched over to coffee. What does it buy me
a coffee? It's in the link that's scrolling across your
screen and just go through there, and that's the way
you go through to get to the discord as well.
Now too, Sorry, I'm getting tongue tied you all. It

(30:49):
was a rough night yesterday, man. Me and the old
lady stay up late late last night, hal at the
moon smoking weed to three o'clock in the morning. You know,
I'm not a big four twenty guys. I think it's corny,
but then you know, I told her last year. I
was like, you know, we don't when as a kid
growing up, we celebrated Christmas, We celebrated all this stuff

(31:09):
and did all these things and.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
That, and we haven't done that for many years. I mean,
I do celebrate Christmas.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
I go to my family stuff and shit, but I
kind of slacked off and don't put up lights or anything.
But last year or two I was like, you know what,
the I like having moments like that, and even like
four twenty for example, where it's these these moments in
time where I can look back in that year and
be like, oh, I remember that because it was I was.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
I was doing this.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Before twenty and doing it when I don't have holidays
and shit and I'm just getting holiday. Bro, my whole
year just goes by, and I'm like I can't really
differentiate what day was what, and this at least with
like these holidays, I can kind of go, oh, it
was sometime after Christmas or you know stuff like that.
I don't know. I'm a forgetful person that, you know.
I spoke to him a fine, I think, dude, you

(31:55):
need to try. I don't know if he's released this
one yet, but the Breaking Diesel Bro, it's got that
sour vibe going and then they're like the rotten Mango.
Ye kind of kind of thing going. The effects are
actually pretty great on this one. It kind of makes
me a little loopy bro tongue todd kind of off balance.
I'm really enjoying this when this format, you know, really.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Like you can just pop the P break the P break?
Which one is that? Is that the pye his P whatever? P?
I don't Is it the sweet Pee from Bitterers? I'm
not sure what P ninety one he has, but it's
the P ninety hays times breaking Hayze.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Okay, so it could be it could be locals, but
I'm not sure. I have to look at the actual cross,
but uh, it could just be Bitter's cut. His S
one cut actually got some of that right here, bro,
And uh, I imagine that's probably Bitter's cut.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
But it could be local sweet pee. But if it did,
what did it say?

Speaker 3 (32:54):
It just say p on it like no P ninety
one S one.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Okay, yeah, so yeah, so it's it's not the sweet
Pea then I guess that stuff always confused me too,
to be honest, but I'm pretty sure if I'm if
I'm not mistaken, sweet Pea is just uh what's his
name's local selection of I guess bitters s ones. I'm
I think that's what that is. I'm not I'm not sure.

(33:20):
I just call it.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Uh yeah, I couldn't remember which way it went.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, I was good and so small. A piece of weed, yeah, damn.
Do you ever have one on that or a fly
on the mow or go down your throat? Dude? Oh
my god?

Speaker 3 (33:35):
No, but yeah one the other one hits you in
the eye.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah yeah, all safety first, brother, you gotta have the
glasses on.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Do you ever have mushrooms or dog ship flapping hitching
the lip with the weed eater?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
That's the fun one.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I used to do a bunch of residential properties, bro,
and all fenced and you know dog ship everywhere don't.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Plant their dogs.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Hey yeah, just not is a snack late afternoon snack.
You you hope for one of those. You can go
in through a one hundred degree day and you're hungry.
You hope you a little poop right there, a little
dog shit, you know. But uh yeah, man, uh the dude,
I'm excited to try some more of these. Uh uh,
some more of the ship out, dude. I like I've

(34:21):
been having such a good time experiment with some of these.
We I'm trying not to smoke it all, dude, because
like the I got the loop aheadband. Uh. I wish
I could show you some of these nugs, but I
don't know if we share with the YouTube's uh stuff.
But I do have some pictures.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
On Instagram if you want to look at him either way.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
But yeah, man, just it's so cool getting to try
other people ship bro.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I'm really thankful to get the opportunity to do this.
So yeah, it's been awesome.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Oh heck, I hope you get to go the one
the can Illuminati parties, dude, you get to try all
the buds. That was awesome experience. Man.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I mean like even just doing that one time in
my life was was worth it and awesome.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Dude wants to missus graduate, so I'll be able to
save a few dollars and yeah, definitely make it out
there because if it's in Cali, I'll go see my
brother and then freaking head to the party. Because heck,
he's I don't know if he's still working on Fallout
season two or not.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Oh, he's he worked. He works on that ship.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yeah, he was worked on Twister. Uh. Top Gun Maverick
worked on CSI, Vegas for many many years. It's true. Yeah, yeah,
he went to school at a school in Florida called
Fool Sale. I don't know if you like professional wrestling
at all, but NXT when they really brought NXT out,

(35:45):
that's where it was. And my brother was so piss
because him and I grew up loving wrestling, and he
had already graduated and gone on down the road, but
then here they are freaking the ww's taping you know,
wrestling stuff. He's like, what could both of the Yeah,
he would sign his dardness to go back just so
he could help teach a class or two, but he

(36:06):
could never get anything set up.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
That's cool, man.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
My era of wrestling when I was into was the
like uh Goldberg n W oh yeah, m and Dallas
Page that was more of a w c W guy.
I did watch w w F, but uh, I kind
of stopped. There was a documentary that came out when
we were when I was a kid, I remember vividly

(36:29):
because South Park was under fire at the time too,
and I remember being in third or fourth grade and uh,
maybe it's probably third or fourth grade, and I remember, Uh,
there was a documentary came out some of the pro
wrestlers did that kind of was like hey kids, they're
all masked, but they're like, hey, kids, wrestling's fake. And
like that video crushed every kid I knew was like,

(36:52):
fuck wrestling, it's fake, even though we all knew it
was fake.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
That video specifically, I can't. It was a bunch of
the wrestlers.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
They're all masked and they're like and they showed like
under the ring, how had a mic and under and
all this shit, and it just as a kid, you know,
you don't know any better when you're into these characters
and shit and you're like, wait, Sting's just some dude
like the I'm thinking Sting's like a super human god

(37:18):
from the underworld or something, you know, like Sting was awesome.
I know Sting's been around more of the era longer
than that, but for me, that era of him where
he had his face painted and come down from the rafters,
I forget what aer he called himself.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Oh Crowsting was because Surpering was getting stale. And then
you have freaking Scott Hall telling him, hey, why don't
you paint your face like the crow? And he goes
and does it, and then Pin Heck, they spent an
entire year building up a storyline to have him face
Hault cooking.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
That's so sick. Oh, Nick Foley, dude against Uh what
was it the Big? Was it Undertaker or Big? I
think off the top of it Gig?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Was it WrestleMania or whatever?

Speaker 3 (38:02):
I know? That was just a hell on the cell match.
I can't remember what pay per view it was. But
if if you're a fan of that, look up on
YouTube Mick Foley and Undertaker watch the match, and they
watched it. They just did it this year.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Oh well, what I was talking about was from years ago.
It was Undertaker.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Oh no, that match. They go back and they watched
that match this year.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, I see that. That's what actually got me to
watch the actual Like I watched that with them when
they're sitting there talking about that, and then I watched
the the actual original, uh, you know, just without anyone
talking and watched it and dude, like to hear them
talk about that and and them knowing he's about to
go through that cage and like, oh, like that whole
error was so cool.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Bro. Oh yeah, and you got to think, you know,
a geek out talking about wrestling. You got Jeff Party
and all those guys doing crazy stuff. But Mick going
off the top of that cage. At the time that
he did it, nobody had ever done anything like that before.
And to think that was the planned spot. They knew

(39:12):
that was gonna happen. But then to crawl back up
on the cage and have the tie down snap as
he's getting church swammed and just what I don't know
how many ribs he broke he wound up, you know,
knocking his tooth out, coming out through his whip by
his nose.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
And that it's badass. You know, those dudes are probably
fucked now, Like I bet their bodies are like going
through it.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Oh, thank goodness for DDP. Yeah, he's fixing a lot
of them. Yeah, that is helping a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
We're getting yeah, dumb, Yeah they got that yoga or whatever.
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah, we get off on wrestling.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Back.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah we'll bring it. We've got really back in a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
But yeah, man, uh that stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
That's a nostalgia trip there for a second, just thinking
I'm back because you know, me and my dad, we
that's something we did together, dude, Like watching tune, Uh,
watching wrestling, watching you know, full metal jacket, Watching What
was the Crow? That was like the movie he talked
about all the time, Watching Bruce Lee movies like, uh,

(40:20):
what is inter the.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Dragon and all that ship?

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Dude, Like it's all uh Jackie Chanan movies.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
That's all my dad watched. That's what now.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I love. I love those.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Movies, bro.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
What's that? Absolutely rumble in the Bronx old Jackie chan movies, Dude,
I fucking love them. Dude. There's a bunch of older them.
The drunk his version of Drunken Master was fucking sick too.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Anyways, get off on a different tangent now. But that's
what happens when you get to Stoner's the redneck Stoner's
talking about ship. That's how it is man, growing up
in Kentucky. Bro, you just sit around I kid you not.
I can pull up, uh, you know, somebody's yard and
anybody really sit down and talk to them for an
hour about shit.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
You know, especially when you're mowing and stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
You got people come up to you and be like, yeah,
we're talking about the mowing, or we just want to
talk to you about this random stuff. I like that
kind of shit. I know some of the guys joke about,
you know, people waving at you and stuff when they
drive by. But I come from a place like that,
and I certainly would much rather have to wait at
me than not wave at me, because at least I
see you with their hands a little bit, you know. Uh.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
D's not only that, but I mean the road I
live on, there may be fifteen cars that go down
at twenty cars go down at to day, and I
know twelve of them.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's something cool about that.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I mean something there's always good and pros and constant
everything in life. I mean, you got you got really
nosy people at that point, but you know, depending on
where you're at growing up in the small towns, everybody
knows your business. But at the same time kind of
like that I like, or not that specific guy, but
I like. I mean, that's just where I grew up.
You waving people you just a sign of respect. It's
a sign of you know, you see somebody pull over,

(42:05):
you fucking stop.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And help them out, dude. I mean, at least we
used to.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Nowadays it's fucking crazy, but uh, you know, you help
people out, dude. I mean because at the end of
the day, I've been in you know, growing up poor bro,
having broke cars and break down on me.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Uh, just not.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Having ship, bro, and uh having people come through for me.
Broh a lot of times chump my battery. Or you
know when your kids, especially leave your fucking lights on
and ship and come out of movie theater and your
shit's dead twelve o'clock the night and somebody jump shit
like it's just something cool about that. Don't want nothing
for it either. You know nowadays everybody wants to make
a dime off. You got Triple A and all this shit. Bro,

(42:42):
We didn't need that stuff in the that those businesses
didn't really exist because there wasn't a need for them
back in the day. Bro, you could fucking have your
your people help you out. Nothing requires special tools, maybe
a wrench. Now that I gotta change my tower, I
have to have a special fucking tool to drop it off.
And like dude, fucking crazy bros.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
See, that's why I feel about the discord, that that community,
that sense of community is Honestly, if I could if
that is a perfect, perfect explanation without trying to explain
the discord. Yeah, and if anybody really truly wants to
know what it's like, it's family.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, and that comes with everything that family comes with.
Though you know we bump heads sometimes, but hey, that
doesn't mean we fucking just leave and get you know,
get pissed off. I mean works it out like any fan,
like anybody does. I grew up with two three or
two brothers and three sisters. We follow all the time,
but I love them more than anything, you know, So

(43:39):
it's like, but that being said, I don't want it
to sound like it's you know, you know, just in
the community, especially with some of the bigger guys you
get sometimes the butt heads just over differences or you know,
in the past we've had drama and stuff and it
shit happens. But I think what's important, uh, you know,
and weed. You're gonna have that kind of shit, a
lot of egos and things, so just important like what

(44:02):
you make of it after the fact. You know, you
could fold up and give up and get mad and ship,
but it ain't gonna do nobody or yourself good. That's
why anytime we go through stuff in the discord, we
always come out stronger and more of a unit.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
That's just part of to build friendships in real life.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
When you hang out with people bro in a in
a you know, a physical setting, that's the ship that
makes bonds. And that's the ship that makes friendships is
going through the hard times, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
And that's the ship when you find out.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Who really your fucking friend is sometimes because you know
they're there for you when you got money or you're
giving them something. But then it's you know, you might
have one or two if you're lucky, when you ain't
got a dollar to And that don't mean that ye
think God give you money. I'm just saying that, uh,
you know, somebody be there for you and knows what's
going what's going on, what it's like.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
You know, I know exactly where you're coming from. That's
why I reached out once all that crap fricking started
happening to a couple of the people at the disc
or Hey, it's just in case, here's my number.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, don't disappear on me, dude, don't disappear on us now.
I mean, as long as as long as I'm breathing happy,
I'm gonna be here, Bud. I promise that some I
made a decision a long time ago that you know,
if I was gonna get thing to doing this ship,
I'm gonna rock out with the dudes that I came
in to.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
The very end.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
You know. Hey, man, that's where I am.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
There's the only way to really do it if you
want to do it the right way.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
It's not that I don't mean you can't make new
friends on the way, but uh, you know, I'm I'm
gonna rock out with people that rocked out with me
when I had nothing.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
You know that's the to have my back when people
I can count on. Uh, you know, that's important to
me at least. Loyalty and uh, friendship, good just being
good people to each other.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
That's it doesn't require much energy. I feel like it
requires more energy to be negative, you know. So it's
just be good to people. And that's something weird we go.
I know, we always talked about the discord is something
that's important to us.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
So it's yeah, just having a space for that I
think is.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Super important because I don't know, I've been in a
lot of communities, bro, maybe not weak communities but in
the past, but like collecting communities like cards and stuff
like that, and dude, this is by far the best
place I've ever been as far as real connections and stuff.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Oh, hands down.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
I'm going three years three years in there, bro.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
A little every year myself now, thank goodness. But I
mean it's the sense of community. Man, It's just like
it's and there's so many people doing different things and
I think that's what makes it really cool too. Yeah,
and you get people like Freeze Blade. He's growing some

(46:47):
of the coolest narrow leaf stuff you've ever seen. Man,
it is wicked.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
And he'll even say some of it. He's just like
growing it. And you know it doesn't turn out for
snot it. But there's some of the coolest looking plans.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, Yeah, that's cool. I mean it's stuff I probably
wouldn't grow, But having an opportunity to to see like
him growing and see it, I think it's really fucking cool.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Uh oh yeah, yeah, a lot of.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Those guys, there's a there's some really cool guys to
do interesting ship and uh I think I think too
just having a place for like, if you have problems,
you can tap into there and ask them questions, and
you know, it's a great place to like a database
essentially if you've got to I mean yeah, for anybody
knew that joins the discord, there's a search function. You

(47:36):
can get on there, type in a keyword and probably
find out what you're looking for without feeling silly maybe
and and stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
And without having to ask a question.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Sometimes it's hard to ask questions, especially you join a community,
uh where there's a bunch of breeders and stuff. It's
intimidating a little bit for people. But some of these
guys are just like you and me. They joke just
like me and you. You know, we're in there cutting
up about dick jokes and holes and then talking about
we dude. But you know, I don't know, I have

(48:05):
a great time with those dudes. But what do you do?

Speaker 6 (48:08):
So?

Speaker 1 (48:08):
What all you got?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
You just mentioned some stuff early? What all you got
growing going on?

Speaker 1 (48:13):
And don't have to tell me a plant count or anything,
but just your uh you know what strange you're rocking
out right now?

Speaker 2 (48:18):
And what strange you're you're looking forward to after these
uh uh.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
So I've got the afterglow from pots detests, I've got
the pee break that I just popped. I have the
like I said, the number ten's not sure what they are,
and the number two two mutants not sure what they are.

(48:44):
But then I got some sweet sixteen uppercuts from bomb
Tookes and some Hello times arkle from him also that
I've got in solos right now. But the big thing
I'm trying to work on I want to try to
do a reversal on the five hundred. And then that

(49:07):
that even H and L said if it works, can
I have something back? And I'm like, that was the
coolest thing to ever be asked, Like do what?

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yeah, that's fucking absolutely he's talked about that.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
I think it's in the P.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
I don't know if you can hear it maybe, but
in the p uh I found so far five seeds
and then in the Loopa's headband, I found five seeds.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
So I was like, what are they? And uh he said, Man,
it's funny because on the the P ninety one he
said he got three seeds out of a quarter and uh,
I've gotten five out of like maybe a gram and
uh it's electric mango, or it's P ninety one times
electric mango, hayes or so I was like that right,
the electric mango was the best one. Out of that

(49:57):
uh drop, I thought that I tried in person like
I the expressions I tried from h himself. Yeah yeah,
Uh that and the bandit Haze I really like, but uh.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Electric Mango was my favorite.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
I got to take home a couple of jars uh
different uh sister or expressions or whatever. He had a
bunch of different He had a bunch of basically the
same strain with a bunch of the expressions that he
grew out and numbered and stuff.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
So I took a bunch of them home, and yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
The electric one that.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I think so, yeah, I didn't roll those Southern I
don't remember. I got a pack sitting somewhere, so I
might be butchering it. I got that wrong, but I
think so yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
The dogs I've got, I've got the Electric, so with
the Boogaloo times Mango, the a m which is that
you know Nebble's am hayes to mango and the uh green.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Crack green crack? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Or is the wait?

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Is the electric? I can't remember, bro, I'm probably butching it.
Let me see I can bring this up. Can you
still hear me?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I'll bring it up right here.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
We'll find out we'll do some We're gonna do some
some looking, right now, Let's see, I'll look on what's
his name's riots site.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Speaking of which, if you want to get some of
these guys genetics, I can't save the website, but I
mean you could probably figure it out if you watch
some of the older videos. But I'm going to the website.
Let's see here, h L. I think he's just was
he at the bar, He's in the middle electric mango.
I'm being big bro, I'm not really sure. Let's see,

(51:41):
he's got electric mango has Actually I was wrong on that,
not the bugalow. Yeah, I was gonna say when you
said green crack, it hitting me. Yeah, the green crack,
that's the green crack, the green crack crossed to the mango.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Hay, my bad on that. I fuck that one up.
But yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
The breaking haze is the Google Electric Google a kakay.
So that's it.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
That's what p break is.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
That's what this is crossed to. I guess the East
Coast sour diesel. Let me see, that's what this one is,
just the breaking diesel. So I think that's across to
the East Coast sour diesel. That This one's fucking nice, dude.
It's got that rotten mango we just like. Uh kind
of reminds me a little bit of Local had some

(52:27):
of this. I think at the he had the Uh.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I think it was like the Electric Boglo Times something
I forget towards Appellachia. Maybe I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Long story short, it was really nice, but it's got
that game same kind of vibe, not as raunching in
your face. But the mango is really in this one,
which would really blew my mind because I haven't really
got I got some mango on Appalachia late in cure,
but not like this. And whatever he's doing, he's really
bringing him out, that mango out because he brought it
out on.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
The Rank Stranger, which is the Kim d Times and
Mango Hayes.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I did grow that one, and I did try some
of that too that he grew I got to bring
home and on his Yeah, just he's able to bring
out that mango smell more than mine. Where I was
getting tropical, but like tropically shipped on the Appalachia f threes,
I didn't get much like mango. So I'm always jealous
when you guys, I got mango. I'm like, I didn't

(53:21):
get mngo at all, you know.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Yeah, yeah, I'm excited to crack some of the beans
I got from the waffle too, so because I wound
up with the green Crack b X that he did
kem DBX and Mule Skinner? Was that one? That one?
And I mean I got, uh the sample some of

(53:49):
this stuff of the Mule Skinner from the Solo Cup
Challenge from Bomb Takes, and that stuff is special too.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Is that the Is that the GMO crossed Apple Laser?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
So?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I can't what does them?

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
I think it is. I forget all these two myself. Bro,
I'm popping too much.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Ship. I won't say that's the GMO cross the.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Res in the oil in that is just so mouth coating.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Oh hell yeah, yeah, that's the GMO times Appalachia F two.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I haven't ran that one out.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
I did have a pack of them, but I want
to say I gave that pack to somebody that was
in the did we do? I think that's the one
we did for the Solo Cup Challenge And I ended
up just giving that pack to somebody that wanted to participate, uh,
because I got that pack from the Patreon packs from Matt,
I think for free or but through the Patreon, and

(54:47):
I just was like there was somebody that really wanted
to participate, and I was like, fuck, I was giving.
I just ended up giving my pack, so I think
it was like a half pack or something. But I
didn't end up running that one. But I think he's
going to send me some of the original or what
is the original sins or whatever. The Olopa had been
a cross because I I've been smoking the lompos the headband.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I'm fucking I'm enjoying it.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
And everybody keeps saying that that's the two two guys
one cup cross or collab with Matt. I think it was,
or I forget which one. I got it right here,
I'll pull it up, but everyone talks about that. Dude,
Uh yeah, two guys, one cup, and I think it's
the original sin. It's I never say the ship out loud.
It's so weird for me to say it out loud

(55:34):
because I'm always reading a text of it. Say ship
out the original sin. The loopus had banda mapple a
Sha have too. So yeah, and then dude, honestly, like
we're I'm getting dumped so much information h every day
from people that watch the show that my own ship, uh,
you know, stuff I'm working on stuff, other people work

(55:56):
on stuff, Matt's working on.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
I look up some days like last night.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
Don't know where I was half halfway through the show,
and then I'm smoking on top of ship, so I forget.
Somebody will tell me something and I'm just like yeah,
and I just don't absorb uh information the best.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Sometimes, but yeah, I uh, I see two pike man
uh custom Creations.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
This is a Spindle's glass and everything.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Dude, awesome. I gotta get with him. I got I
gotta get in the rig.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Well, I was trying to buy one from Spindle, but
he's been busy and doing other ship and just like
I just haven't really it hasn't happened.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
So uh, I'm telling uh.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Achanelle was like, man, I've been waiting out to get
one of these custom Creation bongs, but it's been a
little while, and uh uh I've seen him on other
sites and stuff. But I was trying to get it
to the right person so that somebody could get the
money that I actually knew, you know, and uh He's like, well,
I'll just send you one and uh ahanell, you just
ended up sitting sending this in a hoodie and shit, famm,

(57:02):
I'm H and L sponsored.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Out now there you go.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Hey, yeah, H and L powered. I've been calling it,
you know, horse, No.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
I got no problem being powered by poking H and L.
I made the joke the other day that it's gonna
be uh oh crap, What the heck did I say? Hi,
goat Loansome Farm.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
There you go?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, I mean, dude, get an opportunity to smoke some
of these guys stuff, or grow out some stuff early,
or like literally just be able to meet them. It's
like a dream come true for guys like I probably
you two, I know, for me being out in the country. Bro,
Like I never, in my wildest dreams thought like I'd
be able to talk to anybody.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
And I know people in the game are probably like,
who cares?

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Like there, you know, don't you know I'm not out
here sucking dick worshiping anybody. But I feel like it's
just really cool for me because I didn't grow up
in Cali where like it was, you know, are like
having all these cuts and these stories in this history, right,
I mean I grew up or in a fu fucking
town of like maybe a thousand people bro in a

(58:10):
churchy town.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Dude, that people ain't talking about weed.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
The only time you got weed is like if you're
in high school, you know, and you're or you know
that kind of crowd or a little bit after high school.
But after most people phase out and grow up, have
kids stop smoking weed where I grew up. So uh yeah,
like just to be able to watch CSI and some
of these guys, and like I remember watching three years
ago watching CSI panels on like some shit he was doing,

(58:34):
and so Matt too, before I even joined the discord,
cause I watched Matt for probably Iceman. It was a
while before I joined it. I didn't just join right
away because like I was a little skeptical of just
like internet weed people I didn't really you know. And
plus like the stories of like the old forum stories
I had heard about people getting in trouble, and at

(58:56):
the time I was in Kentucky, I was doing shit though,
really just growing some planes in like a little tents
to fuck them, you know whatever. I don't care, but yeah, dude,
just to get a never in my wildest dreams. Well,
like it hit me while I was sitting there with
like fucking Rob Clark Agan l you know local all
these guys is hanging out and you know, just smoking weed, dude,

(59:18):
and it's a It's never lost on me in those
moments because I'm just like this, this to me, like
weed is, even though it's not really like I don't
like saying this, but we to me is if I
had a career choice path in life, it would be weed, dude.
Not like from a standpoint of like commercial or nothing
like that, but like I mean, I flip packs from
my like majority of my adult life, dude. I smoke

(59:40):
weed every day. My life is built around it, and
I've I've made a mission to be here right now
and it's exactly where I ended up. And it's like
I gotta pinch myself every day because I wake up
and get to grow great weed. I get to talk
about it to some of the coolest people I know
that know a lot about shit, that are good people.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I'm sorry going for I mean, no, I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Told you the beginn it's gonna be about you, but.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Oh no, no, no, I love this stuff, man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I go on rants, dude. It blows my mind that
a bunch of stoner dudes that rain from the age
of you know, twenty three or whatever, twenty something years old,
always to like seventy some years old. We can all
get together all across the country, different political views, different religions,
things not religious, whatever, and we all can get together
and make that ship work somehow, Dude. I really I

(01:00:33):
think that's special because you know, a lot of people
might just stick to their own little areas.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
And stuff like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
I think it's really cool because we got people in Australia,
New Zealand, South Africa, Europe, I'm sure other places. Canada, Canada,
Shout out Canada. Shout out to Australia. My sick counts
down there, mate, I can't. Yeah, I love it, dude.
I think in another lifetime I'd be bro down here

(01:00:58):
in Australia the beach, dude, fucking just living on the beach,
catching fish, calling everybody sick cunts. You know that kind
of ship. That's or dude, shout of Florida, bro, I
love Florida. We were talking about Florida earlier and I
meant to say something about Florida. I fucking love Florida, bro,
I love I love Florida. We're East Coast guys, so

(01:01:20):
of course we love Florida. There'd be people in the chat.
I don't like that. I don't like you know, but
I dust in Pensacola, Fort Walton, the Pananeles will have
been a lot. I've been down there a lot, and
I fucking love it down There's those people were good
to me when I got down there, and uh, the
beaches are beautiful, the women are beautiful. I mean, just

(01:01:42):
open up some weed shops down there. I don't know
if they do nowadays, but haven't been for a couple
of years. Last time I went.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Uh, they've got a weird they've got a weird medical
system down there, but it seems to be okay. It's
just they've got that damn freaking fake ass shit down there.
And that's what's so funny. I wish, I wish everybody
would wake up and realize that when you're buying that

(01:02:10):
crap from a gas station, it doesn't say derived from plants. Idiots.
I mean, you don't know what the hell you're smoking.
There's no regulation on it. Yeah, there's no regulation on it.
That's why they can sell it for as cheap as
they sell it, and they can say, you know, oh,
hell is gomy He's got five thousand milligrams, studie. Can

(01:02:30):
you imagine trying to grab something that Peaches made that
had five thousand milligrams on it? Getting your ass? Would
and talk till next year?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Yeah, my buddy in Kentucky right now, he uh he
sent me a message and he's like, hey, man, you
sending me pictures of shit he got from my gas station.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
And I was just like, dude, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Bro? Like like, you know, I can help you out somehow,
we can figure out something, you know. And he's just like, oh,
I'm all right. I'm just like, dude, you fucking nuts.
I would never smoke some shit from the gas station. Bro,
I don't. I don't care if the league we was
legal or not, Like I ain't. It's like sushi, Bro,
you gonna eat sushi from my gas station? Fuck? No,

(01:03:11):
you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Uh that, I don't know, dude, I used to get high.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
You Maybe it's a random story, but there's this dude
from like Pakistan or somewhere. If forget I think or
Jordan's sorry, butcher Jordan, and uh he owned a gas
station in my little town, and uh, I used to
go up there all the time, dude. And this guy
like total different world from what I grew up, right,
he moved over here, and so I go up here

(01:03:37):
with this dude and I used to deal to him,
you know. And uh, I go up there and meet him,
hang out in the back office that gas station, get
fucking ripped, and this dude would tell me like shit
about his religion.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
He would tell me like weird shit that's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Going on in the town, and we just get blazed, dude,
and it was just that's that That's something I always
stuck with me because it's like, here's this dude. It's
like fifty years old, thumb speak English super great. But
me and him, we sit down and smoke a bowl
together and we just fucking hang out and have a
good time. Dude. You know what I'm saying, Like some
gas station vibes, Dude, give me free ship, give me

(01:04:13):
like they actually had good food at their gas station.
I ain't going a lot like they actually made real food.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Like good food.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
There's some you know, yeah, there's some places in some
states where gas station food is good. Like I would Michigan, Bro,
like I would say gas station and Michigan food. That's
it's more like little stores, Bro, Like, I don't know
if that's like where you're at, but every town has
a couple of stores and they make fresh bread in there.
They make subs or gyroads, guy rodes. What are sliders?

(01:04:40):
I don't know they call them. We call them hope that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
We just call them subs or grinders, foot longs, you name.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
It, zinders, Bro will hit them with disease. No, No,
I don't know, uh, but yeah I did. Uh. I love.
I love up here in Michigan. Like, yeah, the just
going to little towns and getting some They got pizza.
The pizzas everywhere too, Bro, good pizzas, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
I haven't been around the world, so what the fuck
do I know, But I've been to Chicago in the
company's places, they've got some good pizza.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
But yeah, it's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
You get a little hole in the wall mom and
pop place, and the outside it looks like it's been
flooded out or been through hurricane some kind of hurricane.
But you go inside, the people are great and food's great,
so it's like, I mean, what else do you really want?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
You know, I like that because it keeps a lot
of people away.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
You know, back home, you know, good restaurants always packed,
you can get in there. It sucks you can't go
in there and enjoy the meal or none. But here,
it's like I guess, because you're just feeding the town essentially,
so and people know like that schedule. Like in Kentucky,
people might drive three for counties to get to a
restaurant because there's some counties that don't have a gas station,
that don't have a fucking you know how you know,

(01:05:53):
bum fuck, they don't got a light, bro or stop signing,
so they'll drive three for uh, you know counties to
get to places. So it's packed on the weekend Sunday
after church packed all town. But here, man, you pull
up anywhere and get good food for the most part. Dude,
last time, I really enjoyed it. I know I'm getting
hungry thinking about it right now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
You know, I really I really wish I could have
more time to experience Michigan for for what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
I've been up here a few times before. I really
thought you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Know I was gonna be up here and really experienced
like what it's all about. And I am from a
weed standpoint to a certain degree match trying to line
me up with a few people to meet up with
and stuff. But uh, you know, I wanted to get
out and get get do more fishing. But man, growing, dude,
you know just as well as I do. It's it's
a sacrifice. It's a ball and chain at times, you know,

(01:06:45):
being out.

Speaker 7 (01:06:46):
But you know, anytime somebody's like I'm going on vacation
for two weeks and they're in the there's summer talking
about how much they grow and stuff and all this,
I'm like, damn, either they got some sick automation one
hell of a water boy, or they ain't really growing,
because I don't know how the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
Fuck you you literally chopped everything down, you have you
have no clone back up.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
So what they're like, yeah, just harvest and went on
two weeks vacation, Like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Like I'm just telling I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
I guess like there's certain people if you if you
took a break, if you you know, contract contractor backed
everything up or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I know there's moments where you could do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
But my thing is it's like, how are you taking
a vacation every other fucking month and you're growing hazes
and ship? Then I don't get that much. Like I
don't know, I don't know. Maybe they're rp and that
we call those rpers sometimes, man, either the really good
grows or the r piers. I feel like, you know, heck.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
I got to go on that one weekend get away
and that was that was that was stressing me out,
and I was like, I gotta get back, I gotta
get back.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Yeah, yeah, I see them. My old ladies Shoulder usually
stay back and take care of my ship for me.
But she's not a weak person like that or doesn't
really grow, so, like, you know, it's kind of like
it's basically, she does a good job. I love I
love my wife. Uh you know, it's just that, you know,
it's she's not she's not a grower. So like trying
to explain when you have like seven six seven tenths,

(01:08:11):
this one needs to be fed, this, this needs to
be this. I don't like when you overwater that one
in the back corner, you know, if you're seeing too many, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
You can't feed any of these over here too much
because they don't like it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Now, I just hit those with this so I know
it's confusing, But make sure you don't hit them with
anything I got. I got three five gallon buckets. You
gotta make up right, baby, you got to mix. Make
sure you're mixing this one up here and this one's
for the cocos. So you can't be putting that those
nuxtures in there, you know, like you couldn't even begin
to try to teach somebody, like if you've got your.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Home thing you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
And some some people got great organization. I'm not that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
I really.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
I keep watching it clean, but I'm not an organized
person for the most part. I lately, grown pot has
made me into a more organized person than my whole
life man, because I'm a I'm a fucking yeah, I'm
just I'm just not organized.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
My brain don't work like that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
I'm one of these guys I wait till last minute
because I love the pressure of the toime crunch, because
it makes me perform the best, if it makes any sense.
So in school and shit, bro, I ain't studying for tests,
and if I am, it's five minutes before the fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Test, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
You know, I don't know, but yeah, dude, h I'm
excited for the future of for what we got going. Dude,
I mean we we've been We've been getting people joining
the discord every day, every other day. There was a
stint for what like three months, we didn't have hardly
nobody for a while, and to see it back to
Gronk because over the last three years, I've we went,

(01:09:43):
We've been through a lot of phases. We've had different
co hos with Matt, There's been different booms and lows,
and that's part of having a discord. You know you're
gonna have. There's spend so many times where you know,
you'll have a month or two of people just shamming.
It's the middle of summer, bro harvest or before hard
everybody's posting pictures or springtime whatever. But then harvest time

(01:10:04):
hits and everybody's busy, so you'll have these lulls of
time where people got shit going on. And yeah, we
talked about that earlier, like it takes a lot. Nowadays,
I'm getting anywhere from five to ten people message me,
usually somebody I don't know, some random person that's watched
the show or watched Matt Show asking a question about

(01:10:24):
something or whatever, and I like that. It's just that man,
like I can't get back to everybody. It's so it's challenged.
I try to but trying to respond to every single person.
And then we got I got private discord message, I
got Instagram messages, I got emails, I got the guys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
That I talked to you on the daily basis, they're
trying to talk to me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
So navigating that and trying to I'm trying to talk
to everybody that can you guys, So if I if
I miss you or I don't respond for a while,
I am sorry. I Also, I'm not an Instagram guy,
so I know a lot of people will write me
on Instagram. I'll usually on Instagram, I'll look at a
message to say, HOI hello, how you doing. I'll chat
with you whatever, But like after that, I usually don't
go back and look at that shit because I'm busy, bro,

(01:11:03):
I really am. I'm fucking making two podcasts a week.
I got a lot of shit going on fam you know.
So but it's fun. I like it though, Like I've
had so many people reach out that are from the South. Bro,
that are just like, Hey, I like what you're doing. Man,
I can't really talk about shit I'm doing, and I
like what you're doing, and uh, you know that can

(01:11:25):
kind of relate to what I went through. I guess
some of the stories I sharing stuff and that that's
been fucking cool because I know what it's like being
out there in bun fuck uh rural areas and not
having nobody to trust or nobody to talk to, and
just like having somebody that can relate to that is
fucking cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
I mean, hn L is big.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
You know, he didn't go through the same shit that
I went through. And I'm not trying to compare myself
to him and anybody any means stretch of imagination, but uh,
having he's probably been him and Ern and you to
a certain degree or just kind of grew up in
that same region, and just like there's common things that
we all kind of go through in those regions that yeah,
they could relate, we can relate to. And yeah, there's

(01:12:05):
different walks of life, different strokes for different folks. I'm
not knocking on anybody's life, or you know, I like
that people are in these places. Maybe we're still I
legal bro and they just know what if I know
what you're going through, fan, you know, I don't know.
I'm getting tongued ted. I've been smelling a little bit
too much of the break and breaking.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
I think you only lived about an hour and a
half away from me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
So we're gonna link up, dude, I've been thinking about
this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
We're gonna do something this summer.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
I just uh, I just got to be at the
right moment because I do have a couple of cuts
that I got now that you know. Uh by no
means is it important if I keep to them, but
it does mean something to me now. Uh So I
do want to try to keep those going and not
so now. If any, if any moment in time is
the worst time to get away is probably now. I

(01:12:58):
guess I should say that's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Way to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
But we're gonna get I'm gonna get away for a
day or two, and we're gonna we're gonna try to
link up due at least at least me and you
are a few of the other guys that are close by.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
We're gonna do something, Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
I would love to make a trip up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Yep, we're gonna do Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
I mean you and I have talked about that in
the past. There's a lot of places I love visiting
up there. I mean, my family is from the Detroit area,
but I still love where you're at. And I love
the West Coast, I mean on the west side of that.
Minton's a blast to go to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Man, it's just a it's my it's my kind of vibe.

Speaker 7 (01:13:39):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
I ain't gonna be here forever, you know. I wish
I could. Uh So I can't, uh gotta go wherever
my wife's going with the with their school stuff. I
think we might end up in Virginia next Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
But another great place, man, especially if you can get
far up out of the cities.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Yeah. Uh, I think looking at spots about ten minutes.
It's a way out of the town from Urn, bro,
which is kind of kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Like I was telling him about the spot I was looking.
He's like, man, it's like ten minutes away from my
fucking house. Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
I was like, I'm gonna be over all day eating
stuff fucking kitchen.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Then i was.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
I'm like, yeah, over just standing out there looking at
his window, like, are you there, Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
No, Yeah, I'm rolling up some of the uh great
train boogie Bro, and I'll be honest, I don't know.
Obviously some kind of train wreck cross I can't imagine,
maybe a collaboration with pot from H and L. But
you can definitely smell the fucking train wreck dude straight

(01:14:46):
up to smells almost to me, this smells almost just
like the A T W Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Yeah, yeah, I haven't been.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
I'm a huge fan of that smell though.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
I am too. I think I really like it in
the cross.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Uh. I like to smell but that on like, uh,
I don't know anything bro like the pe or a
headband or some or loop you know whatever Kim's or
something bro mix, some kind of cross of that. Oh,
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
I know there are some out there I need to
just run. It's just like I meant to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Say earlier, I'm not really up to day on the
most recent stuff. H and L has been dropping just
because I've been, like I said, I've been more focused
on running some of my own stuff. And like I said,
I did get a couple cuts recently, so kind of
just focused on that ship right now. And I'm not
a big cut guy. But and I've never even fucked
with cuts bro, But uh uh, other than the ones

(01:15:38):
that I've found or whatever, you know, that I've kept.
I won't even call them keepers. But uh yeah, suddenly
I didn't know if I was really going to get
into really, but I figure, now I'm doing the show,
it'd be good to be able to talk about some
of these legacies things. And you know, I can't be
I can't talk about them if I've never really grown them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Or smoked them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
I mean, s one is worth, but it's not it's
not the cut. So again, the opportunity to do that,
not only to to smoke it and share it and
talk about it, I think it's gonna be awesome because
some of these guys that don't want to share this,
the stories and stuff with some of this ship, So
like given like people that watch or like or whatever

(01:16:17):
a kind of a window into some of the stuff
to a certain degree without like putting anybody else in
a in the spotlight like that in a bad, negative
way or uncomfortable way. You know, I think being able
to show that and kind of talk about it to
a certain degree. You know, there's things that are gonna
have to be obviously not talked about in things, but yeah,
just showing up the plant smoking it just yeah, you know,

(01:16:41):
I mean wouldn't I mean, who who wouldn't want to
see h Kim ninety one stuff, you know, videos and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
I mean, I don't know. I think that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
I mean, you search up fucking Greg and he's on
interviews talking about uh, white runs for some shit.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
It's not no offense to him.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Like, I just bro, like I want to to the
I want if I'm looking for something like Kim Dog
stores and ship whatever I want to, I wanna, you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Know, I want to hear about that. I won't hear
about the White runs.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
I'm sorry, guys, I'm just I mean, it's not saying
anything bad about white runs. It's just I don't know.
It's for Kim fam fam. I mean shit, I don't know.
I technically can't. Technically I'm kind of Kim fan now,
I guess, so welcome to the fam Fam. No, but
that's something I'm excited for doing because it's like, you know,

(01:17:32):
I do have a couple of random comment or two
that's like, you know, do something on legacy stuff you know,
or or talk about this or where's the breeder interviews?
Or you know, where's this? Or your name breeder Syndicate
TV and y'all don't even talk about reading or all
this crap.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
So I was like, dude, you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Yeah, But the bad thing about it is all the
people that want to bitch about that are a bunch
of dick writers that don't know the true story. And
when you try to tell him the true story, they
get all butt hurt, like, I know, Bomb said it
was from here here, No, his dad had their seeds
from Vietnam, I'm telling you. And it's like, yeah, dude,

(01:18:12):
you do realize they didn't come from the Vietnam region, right,
They came from like Afghanistan or say and just come on, man,
it's the There's always gonna be people that are gonna
be butt hurt about what's being done or or or
this is the way you should run the show. And

(01:18:32):
it's like, uh, do you have your own podcast? Is
doing pretty good? No? Then you know stfu.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
I never I never lived my life by like are
you people got It's like, you know, opinions like an asshole,
everybody got one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
I never will live my life or make the show
based on somebody's opinions. There's more for me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
It's like just sticking it to him, bro, Like, let
me ask them, like you said, you got a podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
You got not anyone cut. You're about to grow out.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
I know I do so watch or don't watch, like
or just like get the fuck out, you know. But
at the same time, I do respect Matt's audience, and
some of them are old, old school legacy og guys.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
I literally have gotten comments from them, guys that have
said great things too.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
I'm not shitting on people, but that being said, like
I want to, I do respect the audience to a
certain degree to where like I want to make content
for them too. It's not really their comments aren't affecting
me in that way. I just genuinely do care about
Matt show. I care about you know. I can only
give people the best version of the show that I
can give them. I'm not not so dog. I'm not

(01:19:45):
a Chanel, I'm not this, I'm not any of that.
I'm not even really I wouldn't even consider myself a
great grower or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
I just literally am just doing this for fun and
hanging out with you guys, and Matt gave me an
opportunity to do it. Nobody else wanted to do it,
So I'm just doing it the best I can, you know.
And I thought to myself, like, somebody hit me up recently,
like you want Kim ninety one cut. I was like,
you know, yeah, why not be great for the show.
I mean a bunch of young guys growing up watching

(01:20:14):
the you know, get in the weed. There's a bunch
of bullshit out there on Kim. I can't really tell
you the history. I can't tell you the genetics or whatever.
I'm not that guy. But I can grow some of
it out, uh and see what it's like, smoke some
of it. Absolutely, and that's the best I can do.
I'm not, like I said, I'm not a professional or nothing.
So you know people that say that ship they can
say it, and I like that. I'm on these people. Bro,

(01:20:36):
you leave me a negative comment, it just powers me
up even more. Bro, it powers me up even more
than a positive comment. Sometimes it's because I'm like, all right, motherfucker,
I'll show you next up this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah. But there's also there's people that are
unpleasable too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
I mean, you guys are This new format is killing it.
I love it, I mean absolutely killing it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
You know our last episode, and I think, uh, we
got to work on something through stream Yard because we
noticed them, like basically like the way the stream yard.
I've never uploaded a video through stream lar Yard to YouTube.
Always directly up your upload through YouTube, and we notice
like it's fucking with the views and like the recommendations.
So me and mag will work on that because I

(01:21:21):
know it from my show. Uh, this last one I did,
the views weren't as good and on the data it
doesn't even show any data on YouTube partly, so something
fucked up with because stream Yard essentially live streams from
stream yard to YouTube then YouTube streams it, whereas only
I upload the YouTube and then YouTube streams it. So

(01:21:43):
if you notice on the last video my last episode,
after I got done with the live, it didn't even
put it into the video category, so it like fucked
it up. Like if you go and look on Matt's page,
there's like videos live shorts. If you look at the videos,
all my episodes are on there except for these recent
one and it's because I upload it through stream Yard
and sucked it up. So but that being said, that

(01:22:06):
show has been we I think I had one episode
bro I got we got like thirty five subscribers from
that one little episode from a long form, from a
long video, an hour video for us in a niche
content creational space or whatever. Bro, that's great. Like I
was like, wow, that's like sub note like subs that

(01:22:28):
you get on like short videos. You get more subs
from shorts. But yeah, the the support has been awesome
and I've really been surprised about how many people watch
and support the show. Dude, it's been awesome. I mean,
hnl let me reviews. I got reviews coming up of
the ship coming up soon. I meant to say something
about it, but he's he's for me just to have
and smoke. But this would be a great opportunity if

(01:22:50):
you don't mind to like talk about some of this
ship and put it in some form of video, you know,
of some kind and uh yeah, just talk about it
and uh but yeah that having these uh being able
to try them out is kind of tying into us
talking about with like the ninety one, like just being
able to grow it out and smoke it and then

(01:23:12):
maybe meet up with somebody like you and let you
smoke it and we do a review together. Like that
would be fucking cool. Because it's yeah, reviews one thing,
and I think it's like, you know, it's like we
talked about everybody. Everybody's got opinions, everybody's got different flavors
and taste, so like you might not like it like
I like it. And to have a couple of people
trying at the same time, we might give different points

(01:23:32):
on you know, talking points and shit like that, uh
and something, it might be cool. It'd be a cool
thing to do. Some of the older guys that I'm around,
at least it's not that they lost interest in stuff
like Kim's and stuff, but they don't. They have cuts
of it, but they just don't run it. So like
my situation, dude is like, oh like just run it, bro,
Like you like him, you like Kim's and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
And you're you're for Kim Dog. Let's get you a
Kim out going here, fam.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
So yeah, that's why I'm so excited to try that
that because I know it's it's it's not sure kem
d it's a kmdb X, but that I am so
excited to try it to know it's okay because I
love I'm like you, man, I like that punk dude.

(01:24:19):
When you open something up and it's like, oh ship
that rotten did you? Did you put a right? That's
so much like you wash man, I'm just clear your
damn shoes on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Yeah I did too, that's my vibe.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Yeah man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
But yet, I mean, just people need to come out,
and I mean for five bucks, even if you only
wanted to do it for a month or so, come
check the discord out. You're not gonna leave well. I
mean that in that five dollars isn't so everybody can
make this great profit. It's just haters. You're not going

(01:25:02):
to pay five dollars to come on and talk a
bunch of man. Come out, come see what it's about.
See the community man. It is. It is absolutely flipping awesome.
And like you said, you got amazing growers that are
more than happy to tell you, hey, here's how I
do it. You know, if you want to try this

(01:25:24):
or this with the way you do it, give it
a try or you know. Then you got freaking people
like I know you and I mentioned her quite a bit,
But then you got people like sweet Peach who will
give you every recipe that she makes down to that
it's it's how to make it yourself. And it's like, come.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
On, man, she's great, dude. I hope she'll do it.
She's been saying she's gonna do an episode with me.
I know they're obviously they're busy with the ship they
got going on. They got a family and stuff. And
that's another thing too, Like a lot of a lot
of guys got families and shit, so like especially some
of these bridges, they don't want to be on camera.
They got families that don't doing this stuff like so
like really, that's kind of how you end up with

(01:26:01):
a chucky fam because I ain't got no kids.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Or any real priorities, so you're stuck with me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
No but uh but uh, I meant to say something.
You were talking about some strain or something just a
minute ago that I wanted to talk about, Oh the
deed or you're talking about the BX.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
That was excellent, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
I will say if it's the first run of that BX.
There was some issues like getting the pop. I noticed
with like U thing is Aitianail didn't notice this. Uh,
but they didn't have that problem, but EARNED and I
both did.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
So if you're gonna pop that pack, just pop the
whole pack, because when I pop a whole pack like
this last run, I got four I think kind of
four or five out of twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
One kind of like dampened off, so I think now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
I think I was having issues with another one and
then I end So I ended up with three really
healthy ones. And they are healthy. I mean I literally
got them in a little four inch pots and they've
been in there for almost two months and they're fucking
two foot taller. They're they're rocking out. But I know
I need a flower home. I've been waiting on this
fucking AC Infinity ten. I'm switching stuff around at you.

(01:27:13):
I fucking I'm learning a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
You know, you go when you ramp up some numbers
and you're trying to do ship, you're you gotta goett
to adapt because I feel like you can't just grow.
I mean, you can grow a certain way every time,
but like it's not all We're gonna work for you
that way, depending on what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
So like those back to those bxes, those bx's were great.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
So yeah, if you're going to pop those, make sure
And that might just be me and or maybe we
just suck, but I tried.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
I popped them twice, and that's happened.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
I've did two different methods, two different methods UH or
three technically UH. I popped UH in paper towels. I
also soaked and I also directly soaked into What worked
the best with for me was pro mixewing directly into
pro mix UH.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
And I did a.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Humidity dome for them, and I didn't feed them for
seven days and I just hit them with like two
hundred MILLI two hundred millileaters or I'm start two hundred
ppms of Cana Tara vega after about seven eight days
real light, a little bit of cow mag.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
And they've been rocking.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
So but yeah, so when you pop them, make sure
you do pop a lot of them, because I think
Achanel's working on making some more.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
But that might have just been a fluke.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
That mean said, I'm not talking to smack on Eshanel,
but it's just something we noticed so and sometimes I noticed.
I don't know if it's a Kim related thing, but
the only fucking problems I have ever popping shit is
Kim related things. Like I had some issues popping some
of the Resurrection shit. I had some issues popping some
of the ninety one stuff. So I don't know if

(01:28:50):
it hasn't even to do with it. I'm not a scientist.
I don't know. I'm not a genetic master. I'm just
some I noticed up at least up here, and I've
noticed in Michigan. I don't know why. Uh. Something I
did notice about the Kim ninety one s ones bro
from CSI was the I don't know if you'd call
it resistant, but dude, no, then doesn't get any PM

(01:29:11):
whatsoever on that motherfucker indoors. Especially dude, obviously people out
here going to see you can be you've got something
going on with your girl from Yeah, I know, guys,
I know, I know, I'm shoving too many fucking plants
in uh four by four. I know. I've heard it
a million times. Like I took care of it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
It's already been taken care of.

Speaker 1 (01:29:28):
But my point was in that I had a couple
of tents that were crammed, and yeah, I just was
lacking on air flowing there and I noticed, uh, there
was a couple of plants in there. Got you know
how you get a little PM on like your fan family,
especially like in the lowers, it's in the corners and stuff.
So before I fixed, you know, add all these new
fans and ship this back before I bought a bunch
of oscillating. I bought all these oscillating fans and fixed me.

(01:29:50):
But uh, but yeah, I was getting what was I
gettingre with this brother?

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Oh Kim ninety one.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
Uh, the Kim ninety one s ones, Yeah, I didn't
get much, didn't get any PM or anything on them.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
It did really great. So I don't know if for
something to that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
What's his name? Buck said, there's a guy up here
locally in Michigan. The fock's around with like something called
the rot or Rotten or something, but it's some kind
of cross of Kim and it's supposedly some kind of
good for outdoors PM resistant. I've talked to H and
L about the ninety one outside. He said it sucked
outside for that kind of stuff, or just didn't do great,

(01:30:27):
you know, not saying Kim anyone sucks, saying it didn't
out growing it outside sucked. So I don't really know.
I'd like to maybe run like the cut, maybe run
some of the ones outside and see what they do,
Like see I fucking because you know up here, bro,
last year I did have some PM issues outside.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
Dude, fucking I'm right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Next to a swamp, so it's like literally humid all
the time, just humidity.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
But I'm ranting now at this point. My bad.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
That's why. That's why that NL five bubblegum that I
can't remember which which run that was that from Caleb
and Matt that came out more bubblegum leaner and then
they back crossed it to the Indiana bubble gum. Yep, that's
something I'd love to try outside.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
You're talking about the bubble gum or the Indiana bubble
gum or the bubble gum.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
Maybe it's Indiana bubble gum I X cross.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Oh no, no, no, no, so I kind of swore
Matt was talking about. One of the crosses from the
NL work was that. But it was the NL that
they selected that they liked was more of a bubblegum
leaner smell wise, and kept it because Indiana bubblegum you

(01:31:44):
can grow that out. I've done it and it kind
of loses that bubblegum smell after cure. But the great
thing about the Indiana bubble gum is that that stuff
like so butt rot resistant and PM resistant it's not
even funny.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
I was thinking about running that uh CSI's bubblegum in
cross this year outside and just to see what it does.
You know, I'm not expecting anything or whatever, just to
see how it does and see if maybe it's something
I could, you know, do some crosses with or something
to make or you know, to chuck some kind of
something to do good outside. Uh And you get in
with some of these guys up here, because I'm sure

(01:32:20):
they they uh, they got that shit kind of figured out,
especially Canada bros. But I just, you know, like I said,
we talked about earlier, just being married to your grove. Bro,
it's hard, and you got the Discord and everything else
going on. So you know, I'm trying, Fam, I really am.
I love Michigan. Shout out Michigan baby. Anyways, happy you

(01:32:41):
got anything else you want to throw in? I'm getting
kind of hungry, bro, anything else you want to tune in?

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Come visit to Discord and you can start supporting a
lot of these guys, including mister Chesse.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Oh shit, don't plug me, Fam, oh by some im.
I appreciate that, dude. Yeah, I mean, I can't say
how much I'm thankful for everybody that that you know,
I deal with every day and or you know, in
the discord in the community, it's been great.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Dude, a couple of assholes.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
We have to set them free, but maybe they'll find
greener pastures, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:20):
Yeah, I mean, hey, you're always gonna have that in
the group. And man, keep up the awesome work. You're
killing it. It's much appreciated, it's recognized.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
You know. If I can put it out there, guys,
come join us on the discord. It's a blast. We
have a lot of fun there. And you know, if
you ever do have questions for somebody that I don't
know anybody on there that has not answered me when
I've done a private message on the discord ever, So

(01:33:54):
if you're not, if you don't feel comfortable in one
of the discussion rooms or you know, the regular room
that everybody's in every day, send somebody a DM. I
mean every It may not be immediate because some of
us are in different time zones from other people, you know,
but come join the Discord, come hang out with us.

(01:34:14):
It's it's an absolute blast and an honor to be
part of Angry.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Yeah, I will say.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
Uh. On top of that, if you're a guy or
gal that that uh, you know, don't wear your emotions
on your sleeves. You don't have a big ego. You
like having fun if you like that kind of I mean,
I don't know if it's locker room kind of vibes,
but maybe like a you ever worked in an autom
mechanic shops, cutting up, having a good time, make for

(01:34:41):
fun of each other. You know, if you're if you
get pissed off real easy about jokes and stuff, maybe
that's not the best place for you. And like Appy
said though, you know, also if you're an introverted person,
you don't have to get in there and talk at all. Bro.
You can get in there and just hang out and
like uh at at people saying you can make friends
and messages. And also, I mean, if you are embarrassing,

(01:35:03):
your a new grower, and it is kind of weird,
especially when you're around a bunch of the good people
that grow really well, it's it's kinda it sucks sharing stuff,
but like, like myself, at least I just share everything
because those guys aren't gonna get me on the fastest
track to where I need to be. They're never gonna
come at me trying to shit on me like that,
you know, and maybe in a joking way, but but

(01:35:25):
they're trying to get me the best grow bet, be
the best grower or whatever I can be. So yeah,
I mean, it's just all it takes is just having
a little bit of humility and just being humble and
just realizing, hey, like I'm not an expert, bro, and
these guys have been growing for thirty fucking years. I've
been growing for what myself personally on and off five
six years total, maybe you know. So it's like, yeah,

(01:35:49):
I'm not you know, you gotta those guys will take
good care of you. But like I said, if you're
somebody that's show or maybe just embarrassed about your grows
and stuff, there's a guy right now in the discord
that's just, like, I think, his first fucking grow and
we're literally walking him through it and it's cool. Like,
I mean, I know that we've had people in the
discorder in the past that have like really shit on

(01:36:11):
stuff like that, but that's not what I'm about.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
I know, I joke, but I've cut down on the
memes and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
I feel like I've tried to support people the best
way I can, because, yeah, my role in the Discord
has changed a lot. Like I used to just be
the funny guy at least I don't know, maybe like
funny guy and make people laugh, and yeah, my roles
have changed, so it's like, yeah, like I've had people
be like, you know, why don't you mean and stuff
anymore because it's like, man, family, I'm like running into
discord with Matt like it's not a good if it's

(01:36:38):
not good to make fun of shit or like beyond
people like that all the time, especially people that just
joined the Discord, like they're new, they're trying to learn stuff.
So I kind of switched roles and really, you know,
try to nurture people more than Somebody once on the
show said are you a seed spreader?

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Are you a nurturer fan? And I got to say,
took me along.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
Time to figure it out because I used to think
I'm just a seed spreader fan, but I think I
might be a nurture you know, twenty years ago or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
But anyways, yeah, man, it's been a blast, dude, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
I don't make a dime from doing this shit, but
it's the most fun I've had in life in probably
the last ten years.

Speaker 3 (01:37:21):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
You know, I give up a lot of my time
for it, and it's worth every minute of it, dude.
Like I said, the guys take good care of me.
And I think we talked about this on the show
last night, at the importance of you know, sticking with
the crew. Finding a good cruise important first, and sticking
with them and rocking out with them and fucking be
there for them.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
Bro. That don't mean you have to suck their dick
and by their gear, but just.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
A man. But I mean, think about the fishing trip
that you got to go on. I mean, how many
people in life get that opportunity to hang out with
Rob one of the one of the guys that's a
forest file.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
They're in this stuff, you know, especially goober like me, Bro,
I know, business being there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
Oh and and that's I've told Matt that a hundred times,
you know, and in public and in private. Man, I
just want to be on a fly on the wall
when him, tayleb Body and those guys are sitting there
talking about history, like I just want to shut up,
sit in the corner for not a second, Like I mean,

(01:38:29):
just the knowledge of those guys. I mean, can you
imagine if you got Pop Hind learn from Denali and
all those guys in one room with all those dudes. Wait, shit,
I wouldn't my mouth.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
He brings Mozola with him a slot up in your
butt when you ain't looking. He's such a trick.

Speaker 3 (01:38:50):
And you put that up for me.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
Yeah, he told me. He says, Uh, you know, everything
in my office, Uh is really low to the floor
on purpose, chuck.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
And I said, why is that?

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
He said, so when that little ask comes in here,
you got being there to pick it up.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Now, I'm just kidding. He didn't say that. Shit.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
He's but he's exactly the way on discord he is
in life, dude, Like he's exactly that way. I remember
one morning I was I'm gonna talk to the motherfucker.
And I was just trying to be positive because I'm
running off two hours of sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
We just partied all night.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
Now we gotta get on a boat at six in
the morning and catch small or large mouthed bass on
that lake Saint Clair up in Michigan or over about
Detroit or whatever. And Uh, I got up and opened
the bathroom's in there like taking a ship and I like,
my bad, bro, and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
He comes up the bathroom. I was talking to him
and he leans over to me and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
He goes, do me a favorite chuck, how about you
don't fucking talk for about an hour until I've had
my coffee. I started laughing. I said, it's all right,
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
I talked. I talked too much.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Bro. He didn't mean it in a mean way. He's
a kidding with me. But me and him, we stayed
after the party and cleaned up because everybody had to
go catch flights and shit, and uh, me and him
stayed at the party and uh, there's a couple of
other guys went fished again that day and we stayed
and cleaned up and chilled with him for like ourselves

(01:40:17):
like two hours and we're just cutting up, having a
good time, and he just, yeah, he's a good guy. Man.
He if it wasn't for honestly, like we talked about
H and L and stuff like that, but if it
wasn't for the NAL, he really I don't even know
if the discord would still be here.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
And I also personally don't know if.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
I would even have a role that I am at
right now with the Discord, just because I mean he's
the one, you know, I didn't even pay for that trip, dude,
Like somebody bailed out of that trip, and I think
it was bitter.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Actually the bailed on that trip, and.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Uh something came up and the spot was paid for
on the boats and stuff, and I got to that
whole trip was free, bro. So like, I mean, you know,
if I never it's so weird to think about it.
I never want to join the Discord ever. Would have
met Danali or me and Danala got into meme wars
back in the day. We're meming each other, and I
used to think. I used to think I was like,

(01:41:08):
this guy's gonna kick me out because like, you know,
I'm making memes and.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Uh, he just like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
It's just like we kind of gained like a respect
or sought friendship out of that and next you know,
next thing you know, he's talking to me in the
private messages and we're making memes about other people and
just a match man in heaven really, And I think
what it is is, uh, he reminds me so much
of my grandpa.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
I mean he looks like he acts like had you know,
my grandpa had heart surgeries before he died and all
the shit.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
He just reminds me of him. My grandfather died a
few years.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Back, and uh, danal, he's like that grandpa figure for me, Bro, well,
like almost like a dad.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
Thats just uh.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
I think it's important for people to have that figure
in your life, especially like if you're in the weed
or whatever. Because he's had been in it for so
many years, I could talk to him, you know, ask
him about ship and just just have a positive role
a good role model. People don't talk about role models anymore, bro,
But yeah, somebody is good that I can look up
to that, you know, And I don't mean worship, but

(01:42:13):
just look up to and and say like, hey man,
these guys did it right, or these guys treat people right.
For me growing up in Kentucky, that's always been my
thing is just treat people to be like I want
to be treated, and be good to people and denaliying them.
That's that's all you get from him, man. And I
don't know, shut out humble.

Speaker 3 (01:42:29):
I mean that that if if if if I can
say anything about a lot of those guys is how
humble they are. I mean, even though a lot of
us really look up to a lot of those guys
and you know, kind of put them on a pedestal ship.
They you know, they're sitting right next to us in
their mind, I mean, and that that's I think that's

(01:42:50):
what makes that that you know, some of the if
if IF people know what I'm talking about on the discord,
A lot of the Gold people, you know, they're just
as humble as humble can be. And that's what makes
that their damn awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
I mean, yeah, br.

Speaker 3 (01:43:08):
That's what I love about the community is there's not
a bunch of people like, oh, well, no, I made this.
I made that. This is no no, it's it's ay.
You want to try this? Like oh what like.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Yeah, yeah, Matt Denali said it best.

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
We're looking for people, good people and friends before we
are looking for you know, good growers or whatever. Like
it doesn't matter, you know, uh that shit's come second
really with a lot of it, uh cause, I mean
you can get them in there with an ego and ship. Yeah,
and that's something you know, these guys are fucking some
of the best growers that I know or probably in

(01:43:47):
the world or in the United states somewhere in that
category some of these guys and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Yeah, like just no egos.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
You would never know it because they're not gonna they
don't talk about it like that. They're not like like, oh,
you know, I fucking crushed you guys and stuff. And
you know, a lot of the jokes I make, a
lot of the memes and jokes I've always made have
been making fun of people that are like that, and
taking stuff that's funny in the community and not our specifically,
but as a whole, like a broader thing, and making

(01:44:17):
fun of that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
You know, that to me is kind I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
I thought I was always find shit funny some of
the stuff people do and say, and just in the
weed we world, I guess kind of funny.

Speaker 3 (01:44:29):
Yeah, and that, and we don't have any my war
masters in our group, man, I mean, it's it. There's
nobody really, don't get me wrong. I know everybody, all
the growers care about and very passionate about what they do,
but nobody is trying to make some huge freaking thing

(01:44:52):
about it. It's so hard to explain anybody that's part
of the disc or gets it. But like you said,
you wouldn't know that the these guys are as heavy
as hitters as they are, and you know, you ask
the question. Next thing you know, you're talking to them
and in the d MS for an hour and a
half about the strain you're growing to theirs.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
Isn't the weird anything else in life?

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
Like you watch a movie, you watch you know, whatever
thing product or whatever, there's a huge disconnect of like
you know, from the boss Man which probably ain't designing
it or has anything really to do it other than
like accept the big ice paycheck, and then you know,
to the final product where like, yeah, well some of
these breeders And that's something that like hear me off

(01:45:35):
a little bit too. When I first joined. It's like yeah,
like you like, don't write them because they'll write your
ass back if you don't, be like, you know, you
think maybe write them.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
They will write you back. So you send something dumb
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
I don't know, but uh, but yeah, they will write
you back and talk about their weed, talk about the
cuts or whatever they use to make them. They'll talk
about how to grow them with their flavors, like what
they get, uh, you know, and how many.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Weeks to take it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Yeah, shit like that just a basic ship.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
And that's something that I think there's probably obviously other
breeders and things out in the world, uh, in the
space that do that too. I don't want it to
sound like, well, you know, readers, syndicate's the only place
for you, because that wouldn't be right, because I'm sure
there are other people that do it good too. It's
just like what this is just in our you know,
in our group and and and stuff. There's a lot
of bad groups out there too. I We'll say though

(01:46:25):
without throwing names out there, but you just I think
that's just on yourself to really your responsibility to sit back,
watch see what people are talking about, see how people
are acting. Uh, you know, if there's a bunch of
paywalls and ship, it's probably not a good place.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
Maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
I mean, you've got to have some kind of paywall,
but I think, you know, I don't know, I'm going
off in some tangent. My point is is there's probably
some good communities out there, maybe not as knowledgeable. But
when you're going and looking for a crew or looking
for a community or a place to be, and you're
excited about weed, you want to talk about genetics maybe,
and maybe you're not. Maybe you just want to talk

(01:47:05):
about weed and be a stoner bro and talk about
hype geneicts that that some of those communities might work
for you better, because I will say that our focus
is like breeding history, uh, genetics uh with some provenance,
things like that. All all the things that matter to
us are maybe not for like your common average person.

(01:47:25):
But if you are excited about growing weed or making
seeds or piling chuckings, whatever you wanna call it breeding,
if you want to know about old strains or or
things like that, it's the place for you. Does that
mean you gonna get in here and get cuts? Probably not.
Most people are probably not. I'll be honest, they're probably not.
Don't be asking for cuts, don't. You probably will never
get a cut if you ask for a fucking cut,
So don't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
Like things, But you're gonna be privy to new drops
and everything else. I mean, and and some of it's
even discounted in some of the places that you can
go get them without without putting out there are any
websites to throw up red flags, but I mean just

(01:48:06):
just the general information of the knowledge that can be
shared on the discord is awesome because a lot of
people kind of do you know when you get in,
you know you might be smoking my war you know,
garbage crap from the discpo. But I mean, one of
the things I know that I when I was in

(01:48:27):
between runs could always count on is Jack r Are
and train Wreck at least somewhat having those terpenes in it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
Yeah, for sure. Well, I think something is really important.
I can't tell you how many times I've grown out
some of the Matt stuff and the pictures look get
up like like what I see on the website or
any of the guys, you know. I mean, I literally
was just talking about Blue Sour. How one of the
blue stars I grew out literally looks like splitting it
a split image of the one he's got there. It
didn't have the color because I took early see folly seated, bro.

(01:49:01):
But some people are sleeping on that Blue Sour.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Fan if you went.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
Sour, just called the fucking Blue Sour in a rig
form and you could chuck it too, Dude, have a
bunch of seat yourself. Like, I don't know, I'm not
trying to like I mean, I'm not trying to sell it.
Out like it's the best thing in the world. But
I literally just ran like a bunch of CSI sour crosses.
I ran a bunch of fucking uh sour dub stuff

(01:49:27):
or not a bunch, but I can't talk right now,
a bunch of skank dog. I just ran uh some
other stuff, sour stuff, and I got the East Coast
sour Diesel about to run. So like I'm dude, I
don't know, bro, I just think that in that tent,
the blue sour uh, the one that I really enjoyed, Yes,
just stood out the best sour expressions out of all those,

(01:49:49):
you know. And I got sour diesel times pure o
g coush got sour diesel times d K whatever I
mean all these so it's not like ther ship strain
or crosses. So it's like to be fair like in
all honestly, Like Blue Stower's one, I've been wanting to
grow for two years. I've had this fucking packs for
two years, haven't did it. And I finally did it,

(01:50:09):
and I grew two and was blown away.

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
I had a bunch of and like three or four
males then pop the full pack, but through something and
I was trying to throw a few plants of Matts in,
and Dude, I think I think people your average grower
out there, your average smoker, if you're coming into, say
Matt's genetics, I think personally, I'm sorry, Matt, but I
don't know if I would recommend them like the Blueberry

(01:50:35):
i X unless they're wanting to experience blueberry i X
or blueberry turks to like the best. I would actually
probably recommend them like the GMO cross. What is it
the I think it's like blisteringe? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
The fucking uh the one I just ran? The blue sour?

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
What's another one? That was dank?

Speaker 1 (01:50:53):
I grew some dosey bananas that's not even for selling anymore.
But there's stuffing Matt grows that is in in line
and tune with somebody that's a heavy smoker. But he
doesn't blow his shir out. He don't talk about his
stuff that way, and his yeah like great strings if
I was, I tell Matt the other day before we
started the podcast, you should leave every conversation with Hi,

(01:51:16):
I'm that riot. Buy some blue sour, like you know,
and you man, you get this sour plant that can
go crazy colors. I mean I don't some people like
colors out there, purples and things blue. I don't know

(01:51:36):
if you ever looked at the picture as of some
of those on his website, they're fucking beautiful. Oh yeah,
And what was cool is you got really thin leafed expressions, dude,
I don't like, just there really beautiful nugs. Paul stretchy,
lanky plant. I will say. The other female was more squat,
looked more like. I had a skink dog that looked

(01:51:58):
on me exactly like the blue sour, really really weird
skank dog. I will throw shorter plants and taller plants too,
So I threw one and looked at me exactly like it.
But something that was cool about that smaller blue sour
was the formation of the buds had that same dank,
real sour smell. But then the formation of the buds
with these real like smaller not want to say small,

(01:52:20):
not in a bad way, but real tight golf balling,
like real knobby looking things, bro. And it would just beautiful, bro,
like really just beautiful. Look like some modern shit, bro,
like more modern looking lead. I was like, this is awesome.
So anyone out there that's wanting to try some good shit,
maybe just lean into trying some of the other stuff

(01:52:41):
that Matt got has in some of the stuff that
I think is the best mets work as far as
like potsy and strength or you know, your your flavors
and things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
For me personally, is some of his cheapest packs. I
know blue Sour is expensive because I think he's running
low on those. That being said, I did do a
little chucking. I did do a little happy. I will
send you some seeds, fam I did a little chucking
with that plant. So you got some seeds of that.
I will send you something for free or whatever. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
But yeah, man, just they're cold genetics that Matt has.
They're underrated that people don't fuck it. I want to
try the Loop Ahead band cross was the Bluepos headband
or Bloompose I forget Yeah, I mean, dude, that's probably
another banger after trying to fucking the cut up or
I guess the cut of Loompa's head band.

Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:53:28):
I think it's a bit from Bitter but Grown by Hanel.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Yeah, Well, we talked twenty about the discord and that's
what people don't understand too, that it's not part of
the discord. You joined the fifty tier. Every four months quarterly,
you're getting more in seeds. Then you are even coming
close to paying for being part of that fifty tier,

(01:53:56):
and you're gonna get stuff that you may not even
have about purchasing. And now you get turned onto something
completely different, and then you may find out, oh hell,
maybe I do like the longer flowering stuff or the
more hazy stuff, because I mean, because you're not gonna
get hazy stuff from a disco, You're just not because

(01:54:18):
it runs too long. So you may get turned onto
something that you may never have even thought about trying
or had the opportunity to try. And that's why I
love being part of the fifty tier, is because I
do get those opportunities, and I take full advantage of
those opportunities. I mean, you know, just that Miss Jill

(01:54:39):
drop I just got done doing the GDP I'm Space
Queen and the HP thirteen times Space Queen that Caleb
did with her, both pretty darn cool. I mean, and
you know I wouldn't have purchased those otherwise, more than
likely not saying that I don't want Miss Jill stuff

(01:55:00):
because she doesn't you know, really neat stuff too, But
you know there's stuff you're gonna get in. There's packs
that that you've won. Some of them you can't even buy.

Speaker 1 (01:55:13):
Well, you're not getting sold on the name or cut necessarily,
Like there is a certain degree I guess when you're
talking about maybe like a kim cut or whatever, but
that's you got to do that obviously to make seeds
with that stuff. So that's not that's that's a little
bit different. But they're they're not selling you on a
cut like Skittles or or you know, Gelato's or runs.

(01:55:36):
They're not selling you no hype, they're not a name.

Speaker 2 (01:55:39):
They're not saying fire in every pack.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
They're not doing that. So it's like I could see
like how your average dude coming up or gal coming
off the street would be like kind of thrown off
a little bit or a little confused. But yeah, like
I think that's the beauty beauty of it. Sometimes, like
I mean Beaumont, I mean shout out Boma. I think
that's actually a place in Virginia's town or something, right,
I like the name. I actually liked the name Beaumont,

(01:56:04):
But just for an example, like that might not mean
shit to somebody, right, but some of the best weak
I've ever smoked, you know what I mean, honestly, And
people don't know what this is. Uh, this is pre
ninety eight Bubba at times, tim dead time to the
got a burden here or something?

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
What the fuck? Anyways, Uh, time's appalation. But yeah, it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:56:27):
Dude across, got.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
A bird fucking bird in here, and I got a
hole in this garage somewhere somewhere, Bro, I gotta let
this motherfucker out.

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
It's be a good time to cut it appy, that's
not a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:56:40):
Yeah, Hey, we're gonna do an hour show, right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
Yeah, right, that's I told my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
I was like, uh, you know, I'm trying to do
like a thirty to an hour long episode, and but
then I'll stop and turn around. Said, but we're right
neck as fuck, so maybe an hour and a half.
So but two hours again, I think we're actually gonna
get cut off here at two hours mark anyways by
the actual stream yard if I'm not mistaken. So, but
so hurry up and get something in. If you got

(01:57:05):
to say something, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:57:07):
To the community. Thank you for everybody that's part of
it that helps out come join us. I mean, you
guys may think I'm joking around about feeling part of
a community, but once you're in there, I'm probably the
shining example of the opposite end of the spectrum from

(01:57:30):
a lot of people. And you know, it's just different strokes,
different folks from different parts of the country, and it
is an amazing community to be part of.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, man. Yeah, guys, Dallas, check out
Matt Show. I'm on there sometimes as a co host
every Friday, nine pm Eastern.

Speaker 2 (01:57:52):
I like to get my show out on Sundays at
nine pm Eastern, but sometimes it's Monday, depending on the Internet.
So bear with me, please. That's the BSTV. Got a
lot of stuff coming up playing. Like I said, We're
gonna be working on growing a couple legacy cuts. We're
gonna be working on sending some tents up, We're gonna
do some outdoord rows. I'm like, I'm trying to get
some more breeders, or I want to get breeders on,

(01:58:15):
but I think I'm gonna hold off until we are
at a point where we got a little bit bit
of a bigger audience where where it will be more impactful.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
And then also reaching out to some brands. I got
a little media packet, so I'm reached out to a
few few. I've got a couple of responses, but they
want a little bit more or whatever. So hopefully it's
for twenty two. It's for twenty yesterday, so it might
take another week or two to get some responses. So
I'm doing working on that to get some sponsorships going
so we can do more shit like giveaways things like that.

(01:58:45):
I ain't gonna sell out you guys. I'd really just
like to get acnfinning to hook us up with some
free shit that I can give you guys and run
some giveaways because you guys spend time on us, man.
I would really love if we can give away some
lights things like that, because I mean, this shit's expensive, dude,
nutrients like at sixpence, So if we can do something
like that, that would be great. Uh, not promising anything.

(01:59:06):
That being said, it's really all I got for y'all.
Go check out Matt's site. Go check out the old episodes.
If you haven't watched an episode of this before, I
got eight episodes before this, sorry burp, go check them
out when we actually If people want to know more
about Appy. We've done an interview. The audio quality was
a little oof, but this one's good. We're on our

(01:59:27):
shit today. App we got our It sounds good. And
I guess really the last thing, you know, you're talking
about the Malar King. I think we just haven't been
blessed with the Marlar King yet. But I'm coming, I
promise them. I want to show these little stick stickers off.
I got my little Chuck Dog stickers, their little Easter
inspired stickers. I got to Pit printed out like twenty
of them, and I almost start sending these and stuff

(01:59:49):
in little when I send people seeds or whatever, start
putting them in there. I've been having so much fun
and fucking around with like my little pro Create thing
and I use AI sometimes too to certain stuff. And
I do all my like finishing work and stuff in
and pro create with a little iPad pencil and it's
just been fun. I've been drawing Matt, I've been making

(02:00:09):
little memes and I don't know, people were asking for shit,
and I feel like T shirt. I do have a
couple of T shirts in the works, but I feel
like those are little can be expensive. I mean, twenty
dollars nowadays a lot for somebody. So I figure stickers
are easy to ship. And I mean everybody's I know
at least everybody's got slapstickers. So that's that's the reasoning

(02:00:32):
before behind them, I guess. But anyways, that's it. Happy.
That's all I got for you. You got anything else?

Speaker 2 (02:00:39):
Pretty much?

Speaker 3 (02:00:39):
It yep, coming to the Discord.

Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
I'm gonna make you the fuck.

Speaker 3 (02:00:44):
Do you see that?

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
Look it's telling us the light dude, that's what it is.
Last night. That's what it was. Me and Matt we
saw that last night. It's because drop us a like fam.
We'll see if it does it? Oh look at that? Hey,
mam like t subscribe. Thanks for so much for tuning
into this week's episode with Appy Heels. He does have
an old interview. I was an episode one of this

(02:01:07):
this fucking show, So go check it out. Audio qualities
a little iffy, like we were saying, looks like we've
got to figure it out. Go support the Discord, Go
support Matt Hanel, Go support pot CSI, all the good breeders.
If you're in Australia, support them guys. They're sick cuns
down to everybody else around the world. Michigan, Kentucky, South Africa, Europe, Canada,
fucking everybody in Canada too, Michigan baby. Anyways, later there, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:01:34):
You want to sit at the table with the syndicate.
Check out our Patreon and our link tree or description below.
Our merch side is officially live. We have all sorts
of shirts, hoodies and goodies to sort you out, and
shipping is super fast and most importantly, the quality is
top notch.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
I've been saving old designs.

Speaker 6 (02:01:51):
For years for this purpose, so please check it out
syndicate here dot com. We also have an underground syndicate
Discord where we get together and solve old strain history
together daily. It's an amazing community of learning away from
IG and it's an amazing resource for old catalogs and knowledge.
We hope you join our union of breeders and growers.

Speaker 1 (02:02:11):
Come check it out.

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