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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of faith.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to reader Syndicate three point zero, the next evolution
of look into counterculture that is Canaa.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
My name is Matthew, owner of Riot Seeds.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
And this started as a one man mission for strain
history and breeding science. Over time it's evolved into something bigger, better,
and more of a team effort. We will be joined
by members of the can Illuminati and other friends throughout
the seasons to hear their takes on grow techniques, breeding science,
strain history and more. Our mission is to combat the
narrative that corporate cannabis and seed posters are obfuscating for

(00:32):
their own financial benefit.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
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Speaker 4 (00:41):
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
Of hemp plants.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
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(01:19):
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Speaker 3 (01:33):
Can you hear me? Yep? Okay? Good? Yeah? That did
the intro go through all the way, just.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
As I don't know as the chat, Sam, I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Did it cut out for you? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:43):
I mean it's doing some weird shit. But my storm
going on though, too, so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Bro, Yeah, it just kept cutting out for me the
whole time. I was like, what the hell is going on? Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Does everybody say it work good? It looks like okay good?

Speaker 6 (01:57):
Hopefully strings like that, Matt, Yeah, I know what.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
It's just like the old ship car you have when
you're like eighteen nineteen.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, right, got to kick it to go.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah yeah, dude, that's why I kept going like this,
like behind this, But I was like, what the.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
I usually I see that, I see that towards you
the camera.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Do you hear me during those moments?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
No, I can't hear you.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Guys anyway, what's up?

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Chat? I hope everybody to help everyone.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
What's up man live on the Twatch? Good? Yeah, just
finished the documentary. I think we're going to talk about
it a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
What a documentary?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Fam So there is a guy called LMC that did
a documentary on spray weed, which I mean, it's kind
of been around for a while for a long while,
but it was interesting to see someone finally go in
on it. And uh, because he has a lot of
newer people watching his channel now, I've watched him string videos.

(03:00):
I I don't necessarily agree with him on his take
on straints and strain history all the time, but this
was I thought it was a good documentary at least
to educate people on spray weed because that's a thing
now that people smoke.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
So yeah, I went and watched it today, Matt, when
you brought it up, I do like I'm with you too.
I don't really watch it most most of his stuff,
but I've seen a few things in the past, like
one or two videos.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
But uh, yeah, I watched that. It was cool.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
A lot of there was some stuff on there that
wasn't completely accurate, but yeah, I think like you, like
you were saying, uh, yeah, it was pretty cool, uh
to bring it up to like you, to the younger
audience so that they kind of know what's up, because
I'd imagine there are a lot of people that don't
know what's going on, you know, in that specifically, there
were people that are like, oh, I don't even didn't

(03:49):
even know about it.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's being sprayed, la la la, So that's cool.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, if people watch, if you watch it,
I had to watch it like.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
A little at one point two five to be honest.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, it needed that that sped up. Shout out
to Midwest for for linking me to that today. Yeah.
I didn't even plan on talking about it at first
till I watched a little bit of it and I
was like, oh shit, this isn't that bad. Like I've
watched some of the Dudes's other videos, and like I said,
when it was interviewing people about string history, I wanted
to pull out my own teeth because it was one
of those. But uh, this this was good. There were

(04:23):
obviously people that he interviewed that I I wanted to
again pull my teeth out, but yeah, I think that's
the nicest way I can say it.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
I blew my fucking mind how I mean, obviously being
in the space that we are in and the discord
and so that we kind of know that a lot
of the ship goes on already. It really did blow
my mind though, Like how people were just straight up like, yeah,
we want we want that, we only want spray and weed.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, that's what blew my mind. What the hell, bro,
if you had they had the option? And then I thought,
what was funny?

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah that one dude when you and I don't know
if this one was sprayed, because he was talking about
someone worse s break someone weren't. I think the one
he was talking about wasn't sprayed. But he's like it
comes with the fucking game boy.

Speaker 7 (05:08):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Oh yeah, bro, He's like, get your game Boy and
your eighth of Mario Skittles or whatever.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
There, Yeah, something stupid. Yeah yeah that guy. First that
I realized that guy said he was thirty years old.
And then he starts talking about Reggie weed, and I'm like,
are you old enough to a smoke fucking brick? Brother?

Speaker 5 (05:27):
Come on now, that's that's the same thought I had
to myself because I mean maybe, I mean because people
had you know, different locations had access there.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Maybe and maybe reggae to him as BC bud, you know,
like to me, that was all Mexican brick.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
I mean maybe because I mean, I remember it's been
about twelve years, thirteen years since the last time I
saw in Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, maybe, I mean, you know, I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
It was a good documentary, uh, you know, especially in
the cannabis space. Bro's not a lot of people. I
gotta give him the props for it because now to
cover that shit.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
So I think you did well with it, good editing
and stuff.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
Yeah, it was interesting too, kind of like hearing from
people that are actually like, you know, on the street
or whatever with it.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
So that was kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
And the lab guys, oh my god, wanted to punch
them all. But so link's in the description if you
guys want to watch this after so you know what
we're talking about. Yeah, my biggest contention obviously was the
first I don't know, fifteen minutes someone some guy, random guy.
He didn't say who he was. Took credit for Bubblegum cookies,
which was my strain that I put out in twenty twelve.

(06:33):
He's like, yeah, we put out bubblegum cookies twenty seventeen.
And then I don't remember who it was, but someone
was doing Tunicans and spraying it and it was Snoop
Dogg licensed that did the Tunicans. I remember it because
I was like, fucking Snoop Doggs. I put a bunch
of money in the only thing strain of ever put
money into marketing, and after that I was like, never
gonna do that again because I put my marketing and

(06:54):
that dumb ass ran off with it. But now there's
a random kid taking credit for it.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
I remember the tuning can things bro because they came
around even down where I was at down South for
a little while out of the city. Yeah, and uh
they were expensive as fun. They were charged like seventy
eighty dollars or something for them, which if they.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Were right, it was all everything I saw was all
outdoor grown cookies, like cookies hybrids, maybe you're just cookies
outdoor grown. And it was put in the can too
wet every time they'd spray and just smack it in
the cans. It was all moldy. It was just nasty. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yeah, I've seen pictures and stuff of those guys doing
that shit where they spread it out on the tarps, bro,
and like a garage or a warehouse somewhere and just
spray that ship.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, how does it not mold and shit? Bro?

Speaker 5 (07:44):
Like I know that there in that video they're talking
about how like you want to specifically do it a
you know, a certain amount, and like there's different versions.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Of it, which I didn't know. Yeah it didn't either,
but or what was it different?

Speaker 5 (07:56):
There was like three different ways they can drive the
the terpenes.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
There's botanical terpenes and then synthetic.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, and then there was another one.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
Uh, I don't know, but yeah I thought it was wild, bro,
because I would have thought it was just Yeah, I
don't know much any on and I should probably even
talk on it really, but yeah, I was a good
documentary bro.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, there was a they were talking to the lab
guys when of them was talking about how his is
okay because he heats it up before they seal it,
which makes sense because you'd want it to dry at least. Yeah,
you're also heating up. I don't know, like because he
even pointed out at one point that like it might
convert to something else because of the heating, and he's like, yeah,

(08:36):
but you know, it might or might not. You know,
it's just like a bunch of sketchy bastards. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
I like how he was essentially saying, like, you know,
if you do it the right way, it's good. But
like our average customer is like someone that probably isn't
the most knowledgeable, so like, well, you know, yeah, some
of those I forget the name. What was it, the
Carson stuff he's talking about.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
I was, I'll be honest, really he was talking.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
About cumuling when he was talking about carcinogenic stuff. I
don't know if that was specifically Benzi Benzi.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, over my head, but talking about like
cancer related that being related to cancer stuff and all
that ship and his attitude was just kind of like,
you know, as long as you're doing it right and
it's good, you know, and shit.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
But he was talking.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
About the difference between infusion or infused, yes, sprayed, I guess,
and he that the infusion with the box is like
safer and all that shit.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
So I don't know, bro, Yeah, they didn't sound too
confident saying that either. When they were saying that. My
favorite was also the dude who was like, yeah, I
don't I don't smoke that. I think it's bad for you,
but it makes me a lot of money, so thank
you for making me money. I don't smoke that. It's like,
what the fuck? Why is anybody? Like why is anybody
cool with that guy? Ever? Like that's what a ship

(09:56):
head like. It makes it But I don't think it's
killing people. But you don't know, well, you don't.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Know, Well, it's not him.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
That's the thing I was talking about, like with them
dudes specifically, like of course they might be doing it
right because they were like under the eyes of the
law and ship. But like he was saying that the
people they are selling it too, and they're doing their
little ship flipping packs and all that, like.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, there's no way, there's no way all that's legal.
One of them is called Fanta, and they were just
talking about it as if it was a Fanta product,
you know, like the ship I remembers got sued over
using this gittle Z's and stuff and they still lost.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I mean more of the lab people, I guess is better.

Speaker 5 (10:33):
Yeah, but I see what did you see that table
of all the products like or what was it called, like.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
I don't remember, it was like a cereal box and
then the guy was talking about dog treats and it
was beyond me.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
It would be some like it was wild to me
because we talk about all the time in a lot
of places that the black work is kind of dead,
you know, yeah, and uh, seeing that likes them out
there on the street with that on a table in
front of some building, you know, it's just kind of
wild to me.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Bro. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting when you start getting to
the East coast and what's acceptable. I don't you know.
I've actually tried spray weed one well, when we were little,
we had this stuff called nade here that was just
raid sprayed weed and they would spray it on like
really bad old Mexican bricks, so it had some kind
of scent to it, but like you'd smell it and

(11:20):
smell like raid. But which I tried it came with
a collective thing called Jeters Jeters and it was like
pre rolls and the second you hit you like, oh
my god, it just tastes like fucking obviously sprayed with something.
It was like metalon sprayed or something stupid, those.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
Geter things that he was talking about. And I don't know,
is that the same thing you're talking about too? Yes,
those dude. I had a hominge that was talking about
those one times. And I never smoked him or solemn
or fucked with him. Yeah, I didn't pay too much
attention to it. And then watching that and stuff, I
was like, man, so that's what he was talking about. Yeah,
I didn't know that was sprayed stuff too. Bro, that's
kind of wild.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
It's disgusting, absolutely disgusting.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I just don't.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
I mean, I get why, but it's just like if
you had access to good like good regularly, you know,
just weed.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, and they were choosing the spray over because they
liked the flavor, and yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah it was. It was an interesting look into our
lovely a little niche corner of our community. And apparently
it's not that niche, like maybe they're selling tons that
I don't fucking know.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I've never seen it.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
I had heard about it, sprayed weed obviously, like we
were talking about before, and so, but I never know.
I never knew until watching that how bad that it
was like that, bro, I thought it was like some
dudes like back in the day with some ziploc bags.
I didn't know it was like, so it's made for kids, right,
I mean that that branding, the colors, like the packaging, Yes,

(12:51):
kind of like fucked up really because yeah, it's made
for younger like a younger person.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I mean to me, it looked obvious that that's what
it was trying to h cater too.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's fucked up kind of dude.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, just just a dad, just to dad.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
Yeah, you know, uh, how do you other than yeah,
making documentaries and trying to bring awareness to people. You know,
if money is if people are making money off of it,
it's going to be very hard to get.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Rid of it, you know.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
And maybe, like those dudes were saying, maybe it'll phase out,
you know, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
I think the LMC said it's here to stay. So
that's that was his opinion. He was talking about it
having an effect on the breeding market, and I didn't personally,
like I don't necessarily agree with that, like, you know,
and and some of the guys that were saying why
they were spraying through like yeah, but you can't get
weed the tastes and smells. It's like, yes, you can,
it just takes years to breed in that direction. That

(13:50):
drove me nuts again, triggers everything in me. I start
ticking like a robot when I hear shit like that.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
That made me think because a lot of guys in
the chat and just laughed because, yeah, but I ran
a couple of autos recently that smelled just up like
like bubble gum, bubble gum, like actual bubble gum.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
And it's like these dudes.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Are spraying of course there was an auto whatever, but yeah,
they're spraying it to get that, and they're like, you
will get this bubble gum, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's like okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, you're saying that they wouldn't smell like it either,
and it's like, well, no, you can actually eat And
he even referenced Indiana bubble gum, and I was thinking, no,
it actually the cut smells like fucking pink bubble gum.
It just doesn't taste like it at all, you know.
But like these guys obviously haven't fucked with the cuts,
but they're in there talking about it like they have
some expertise in handling them, and it'll never get that way,

(14:41):
you know that.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
At the point about him saying that it effect breeding,
I don't think it will, like, you know, obviously affecting
in a giant way, because there's always going to be
discordsing guys like us and oh school dudes.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, younger dudes too, that and gals too.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
I should say that are will always probably hold it
down to some way or for him obviously, But I
do think that it could affect like the next generation
coming up now to a certain degree, because if you
were doing it for strictly money and not like the
love of doing it or you know, trying to find
good plants or whatever, and if you're doing it for
literally just the money, I could see it effect You're

(15:15):
like that where it's like, yeah, we don't have to
grow anything that crazy, let's just uh pop whatever, you know,
And so yeah, you know, maybe affecting the sense where
people just don't care so much about what they're just
even growing, uh you know, from the amateur guys and stuff,
I guess, or people that want to make money.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
So I don't know, maybe.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
At this rate they could legally grow hemp and then
just spray you know, distill it on it and then
spray some turps and yeah, you know, be legally growing
it in the field, you know, with the hemp license
and and and just do that and that's legit. I
guess I don't I I don't know. I don't see
it affecting like niche breeding. But like, yeah, I don't

(15:56):
think anybody that watches this would it would be affecting.
But definitely, I mean a whole nother community, younger kids.
I couldn't even say. It's not my market, so I
stay away from it.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
I never got into the vape vapes and ship dude,
like especially the flavored one.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Oh I've got a douche flute.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
I just can't get into them, broy where the hot
doesn't even feel the same to me.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Bro, it's like different.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
But oh you mean vapes. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
I don't know. I don't know. Those things are gross.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
Yeah, I don't fuck with those, bro. Those were huge
where I'm from, man, like fake ones, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah. Yeah, my brother smokes carts and you know, it's
just like I just wish I could tell them to stop.
I mean, I do, but I have no effect on
that or not.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
That made me think I thought about something before we
started the show, and I wanted to ask you. I
know we're kind of talking about the little documentary, but
before I forget sure growing up with you know, with
your family and stuff, how do they feel about you?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
You're growing stuff?

Speaker 5 (17:00):
And did you ever have like any of your family
members come to you for genetics being you're out in
California and shit in the Orlando Ally's options. Do they
even care about what you're doing? Or do they just
grow cuts or like do they even grow? I mean,
and maybe can't talk about them.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
No, No. My mom's side, they're all strict Catholic Mexicans.
So Grandma fucking that was like hero wind to her.
You know, she hated everything I did all the way
until she died. Said she wasn't proud of me for
what I do because that just wasn't allowed. My mom,
she's a lot cool with it, but she doesn't grow.
She has no interest in it. She never she says
she's never smoked. My dad differs on that that history.

(17:39):
He says she used to smoke all the time for headaches,
but to this day she will lie till she's blue
in the face that she did my dad. I'd given seeds.
I've given my dad's heeds clones back in the day.
I don't really talk to him anymore. My little brother,
he doesn't grow, my uncle, my dad's brother. Uh yeah,
he's a dumb ass. And he's one of those guys
that knows everything. You know. He got into growing real

(18:01):
late himself. And you know, I've offered him seeds and
he'd be like, no, I got Barney's farm, pineapple fucking
shit or whatever it's called. I don't know. I don't
need your shit. I got it from Amsterdam. I got
from the real you know. Like that. I'm like, no,
you don't understand. It didn't matter, like some people just
know better. You know. I do have a cousin that
grows up in northern California, north of Sacramento, and uh yeah,

(18:25):
he's the same. He just grows. He has better access
to stuff. So I remember him growing like purple mister
nice they called him. It was just like the purple
G thirteen hash plant. But yeah, he would also grow
like pineapple chunk and stupid shit like that. He'd be like,
I got that sensing northern lights you know, like that
he just bought yesterday. Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
From uh, what's it called I Love growing Marijuana's dot com?

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Now yeah, right, no, that's what I remember. One of
them was getting from Herbie's head shop, and you know
the other one was growing Amsterdam marijuana dot com or whatever.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Yeah, there's fucking I can't say shit. I bought my
fucking fair share of the white levels before.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, I'm saying same. I you know, when I got
into it, it was at the not at the beginning,
but it had just barely started where everything was starting
to get white leveled, and I spent every dime I
had from working in tech. Fucking man, I'm gonna buy seeds.
I'm gonna have a big collection. I'll be fucking invested.
And then I realized, you know, three years later, what
was going on, and I was like, oh, motherfucker, and

(19:28):
that's the whole collection was worthless to me.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
You know, yeah, yeah, I understand, dude.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Luckily I didn't go crazy like I did once I
kind of realized what, uh well not really what was what.
But when I learned a little bit more about genetics
and history and stuff with you guys, and from CSI
and stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I didn't go too crazy. I would.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
I would just buy like four or five packs of
time and just straight up grow those, and then once
I didn't have those, I would just buy more.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
So I didn't. I didn't go crazy like I did
recently or nowadays.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot of a lot of
white label seeds for sure.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Are they not allowed to cuss on Twitch? That's weird.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
I don't know that.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
I don't know because you do doesn't like us, so
you know, we can't even really show weed and stuff.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
So yeah, we're still trying to move everyone over to Twitch.
And every time we do an episode, I'm watching like
the comments and seeing where people are at because it
shows me YouTube or Twitch. So I'm watching a few
guys have moved over, and I can't thank you guys enough.
We're gonna be doing more giveaways over there after I
get through the Patreon fiasco that it just happened with.
With with that said, we have our buy me a

(20:37):
Coffee up and that's gonna be the cool place where
you get merch and whatever. You know, that's just that,
and I leave it at that. And if you need
any spray or any other kind of merch like that.
There's my site which you guys know where my sight is.
So leave it at that, click the link tree.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
There you go. There you go, We're get Matt.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah you see man, you know see that.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
You know you brought up the LMC documentary. I was like,
oh God, here we go. Came out strong. You gave
some support to him, and that was cool.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah. Now, I you know, like I want to see
other people do well in this world. If it's just us,
then then it's just our own little bubble, right Yeah.
And if there's other people do stuff to help, that's awesome.
To help the community and and put factual stuff. Granted,
there was some horribly disgraceful in correct stuff, but it
wasn't coming out of his mouth necessarily. It was just

(21:31):
people are gonna say what they're gonna say when you
interview him.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
So yeah, well, you know, we can't shot on everything.
You know, we gotta at some point, we got to
stand up and plan our flag.

Speaker 7 (21:43):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
You know, we do it all the time in our
almost space.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
But you know, there's nothing wrong with reaching out to
people and not even coming from an ego place.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Because you know how that is that's scary. Yea, more
than anything.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
But just say hey, like we've been talking in a
previous episodes, just saying hey, like we're not I'm not
saying this is this, but this other option is probably
going to put you where you need to be. You know,
that kind of thing vibe more than you know in
the past, we you know, we did make fun of stuff,
so you know, just kind of try a different approach, Matt.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
You know, speaking of which, I had a guy reach
out to me on Twitter and totally polite, way politer
probably than I would have been. But it was the
owner of Current Compound Genetics, right, And I've mentioned Chris
Compound lately, but I don't know if I mentioned the
part that a while back Chris said he got his
company stolen out from under him, but like he's stolen

(22:36):
so much from people that we just kind of went,
you know, like that's what happens when you're a thief. Like,
but I don't think that's really what happened because they're
like a legal company and all that. But they hit
me up. The one of the owners. I won't say
his name yet, but he's like, yeah, I just want
to tell you about what we have going on now,
and I was like, you know what, I should have
pointed that out in past episodes. Current Compound Genetics is

(22:59):
not owned. The guy that we're referring to is Chris Compound.
That's that's not it, and I'm interested in talking to him,
so I let him know, Hey, dude, let's talk, Like,
let's see what you guys are doing. Because I don't
know anything about the legal seed market. They're obviously way
bigger than I've ever been because of the work by
why Yeast and Chris to build it up and what
they've done since they've had it to continue that growth.

(23:22):
So yeah, I'm interested in seeing that. And it was
it was kind of a it was nice like that.
He was totally fricking nice about all of it. So
I'm looking forward to that and hopefully like something interesting
to come out of it.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Yeah, man, I mean, you know, I don't know if
that includes me on the interview, but I'll be down, Matt,
you know me, I'm down a roll for anything.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, dude, Yeah, I'm down for it too.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
It might be worth it because I always look at
it like this, man, and I know a big part
of the show is we don't ever want to give
people platforms, but at the same time, we could also maybe,
you know, educate people that are not a part of
our audience, because let's be real, we got a solid
a group of people, the guys and guys that rock

(24:06):
with us, shout out Peacha, shout out Pincher. But the
people that rock with this, they know what we're about,
they know what sure about Matt. But the people that
don't out there, it's gonna be hard for them to
find us. So maybe something like that would be good,
you know, get some something, you know, just educate people
because there's a lot of people that don't know about
what you and a lot of the breaders in the

(24:27):
Discord rock out and do and all the work that
y'all put in and all the history behind it all.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
And if you're.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
Already watching a show like l MC or something, you know,
maybe they might find your show good.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
So yeah, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I doubt it, but but but it might work, you know.
But no, I I do feel a sense of responsibility
if I say something negative about a company and I realized, Okay,
there is a new owner and he doesn't seem like
a piece of shit at all. It seems very nice
and well worded, like I'm going to go out of
my way to make sure people know that that is

(25:00):
not the same, especially because of the name and who
owned it and the fact that that name stuck to
his name and all that. I if I own that company,
I would hope someone would put that out there too,
you know, to people who've been around. So yeah, I'm
looking forward to it, and hopefully he'll take me up
on it. And when he reached out, he's like, I
just want to let you know what's going on, So
hopefully he's down for it.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah. You know, you know just as well as I do, Matt.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Even in our own circles, you have problems, and there's
always different parties and partners, and not every partner is
a bad partner.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
So I mean, yeah, it's good to give him give
it a shot. Maybe.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, I want to see what they did with y
East stuff too. And like I said, why East is
a good good friend of mine, has been for a
long time, and he was a guy who started the
breeding for everything Compound did at the beginning, and I
couldn't say enough good things about the guy. So it's
not like everything about compound was negative. It was just yeah,
there's one person who just brought a lot of negative

(25:56):
light to that and everything he touched.

Speaker 5 (25:59):
Yeah, yeah, sounds cool. I mean, we don't got many
people to interview anyways. When you go back and look
on the comments for I think of the last video,
there's yeah that was recommending people. But uh, yeah it'd
be cool Matt.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah. So what else we have to talk about? Uh,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Rocking the gold gym T shirt.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
From well, you got to go somewhere to get guns, bro.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I don't work out. I just wear the shirts.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
So when people see me out, you know, in public
ilbum wearing the shirt, they're like, damn, he's b a.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
I just take steroids and get fat. Don't work out.
That's how you gotta do it.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
There you go. I did have a question from Discord.
Can you still hear me? Yeah, all right, I'm trying
to pull this.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Let's hear it.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Uh. I actually cut his name off, and I do apologize.
It's one of the dudes from Australia, one of them
sick cunts down there. He says, all right, when you're
doing small single nug pollin chucks, does it affect from
the rest of the plant.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
In your experience, as far as the progeny or the
actual plant.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
That you're pollinating. You're pollinate, I'm assuming these harvest for buds.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, I mean you're you're so the plants themselves are
they want to make seeds. They absolutely want to make
seeds to continue on because that's what how life works
on Earth. So it puts all of its energy into
making seeds as opposed to like putting it towards resin production.
And there's a finite amount of energy in that plant

(27:31):
to do what it needs to do, so it's taking
it from resin production and potency and whatever else oils
and putting it towards making the seeds. Doesn't mean it's
not smokable. I mean I've smoked plenty of like seed
husks and ship when I pollinate a plant. You know,
I ain't above that. I ain't above smoke. It's a pollen.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I was going to add
something to that.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Whatever, well, I was going to say something though, if
you're it will affect the structure for sure. I mean,
like a lot of seeded buds look like if you
always especially a lot of these bro autos are like
the worst you make them seated or even worse. But
uh yeah, I mean you can still smoke the I
mean you still a good bud though from South Had. Yeah,

(28:13):
it's just it's just that being said, Matt, is it
a good indication?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I mean, can you say you fully see a plant?
Is it? And you've never grown up before? Uh? Is
it a good Can you kind of use that as
a good indication? Maybe too?

Speaker 5 (28:28):
You're getting good smells, goods induction? Is that a good
indication to maybe look more at that plan or keep
it around?

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Sure you can. You can get indications from it, but
it doesn't necessarily mean it will be exactly the same
the next time, because again, the energy less oils less
rest and production. But you should be able to get
some kind of idea I think, I mean, cool, there's
never been a case where I haven't gotten some kind
of idea and uh and it carries on.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Oh yeah, I would agree with that, dude.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
I mean I feel like I did a pollen truck
with a three and then all of its offspring, I mean,
had that at the F three in it? And uh,
I mean it was when I seed it, it was
fully seated and smelled exactly the same way came out
of the tropical smell, and you know it.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Was the same exact thing even on it, So I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, strong crack Yeah dude, dude.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
Speaking of which, Uh, dude, the breaking diesel, Bro.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
What's in that one? That's the boogaloo mango?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I think you're the green crack cross. I forget which one.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
I was getting mixed up breaking it would tell me
electric boogloo? Isn't it dogs shit?

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I think?

Speaker 3 (29:34):
But that's a breakdancing movie.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Yeah, but me, me and Happy were talking about the
other day and I got so brain tied I was
eating talking about so much shit.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't even know which one anyways, Uh, I want
to talk about that breaking diesel before I forget.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Yes, let's hear about it.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
It's so good, dude, It's like uh rotten mango, like
sour diesel vibes. You know what I meant all that
going on? Something was interesting about it. I've been smoking
on it like uh zero point five or like a
gram every day or every few days for like last week,
and the first time I smoked it, Bro, I felt
like kind of drunk off balloce feeling, you know, and

(30:11):
I was doing some edible stuff. Maybe is that well
today I smoked the last little bit of it today
and uh, I got that same effect. Dude, I've just
tongue tied. I've been enjoying that one.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
I smoked that up before the Loopa's head band and
the pee bro. Wow, I really liked it.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
It's e CSD dog ship Mingo hate. Oh I'm right
boom just there you go twisted backwards. Yeah, I thought
it was e CSD. Mingo hates dog shit shit.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
A lot of those mirror ones.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
I don't even I haven't even kept track of him
because he sent me so much uh seeds that I've
been growing stuff that came out like a year ago,
so I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
I got put on my trauma hat.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
There you go, There we go.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
I look stupid hats, but I don't put it on anyways.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Oh yeah, dude.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
The best thing was seeing Dali at a party like that,
wearing his hat like that. It was the most funny
fucking thing I've ever seen. I think I had a
hat on and he was just fucking with me. But
like Dnali, doing this made me want to do this
for life.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah, so we had the cats.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
We're gonna end up I think auctioning or selling them.
Got did nali packing me signing it? Not like anybody
gets a shit about my signature, but other people legit.
There we go.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Yeah, has anybody got any questions in the chat? Let
let us know. We'll get to him.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
I'll wear it like a gardener up here like that.
There you go, let my Mexican come out. Y'all know.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
Now that's where you bro Oh no, I don't say
that with the hat, pair of shoes flopping off my feet.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, I was looking for I'm not sure where they're at.
There's somewhere around here. But I have been talking to
the Rev. And he's going to be doing his interview soon.
He's had some hell stuff going on. He posts about
it publicly, so don't mind saying it. So shout out
to the Rev. Everybody sends you a love his way

(32:15):
and support because yeah, fucking medical stuff sucks, dude. It's
got some abnormal readings. So once that's done, once he
gets his results and figures it out, then we're gonna
be doing an interview with the legend the Rev. So
we are going to have him on again, and that'll
be fun.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
That'd be sweet, dude.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
We're about to make sure to get a bunch of
good questions for him, for sure.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Here's one from Stony. Is the trop berry? We call
it trop berry a nine week plant? Yeah, it ranges
in between eight and nine. It's just a bunch of
nine weekers and eight weekers smashed into it. The blueberry
stuff can go very fast and even speed up a
nine week plant, so it varies. I'm interested to see
what you do, Stony.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Does the kim Dog bring all the girls to the
I don't know about to find out.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
I know it brings the boys to the yard and
they start throwing fits about who gets a cut.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, there's some people still waiting.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
To this day.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
They say, Yeah, you know what's really weird is you
know that those people that are waiting for that cut,
they could have already probably had it if they just
chilled and represented and hung out with the people that
they were already with.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
But yeah, it's not about the money.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Or whatever, you know, But it's just funny to me,
Like you go to three or four different places you
could have actually already have had got the fun.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, a year ago or so, but you're still waiting
on it.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
I'm one of the people that would have gotten him that, because, like,
I feel like, if somebody has something to do with
something early on and held it, they should be able
to get the cut back like that.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know, That's what I was thinking one day.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
I was like, you know, what if you would have
killed in the first spot that he came back to
instead of jumping all over the place trying to do
an interview with everybody.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, threatening people. Yeah, I mean, you know
there's Yeah, it's funny. I love I love that family, joyful.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
Family, kim fam shout out newest member right here, let's.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Go newest and only member.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
It's like, it's like when that cousin shows up to
the family reunion that ain't showed up in the wow
and he's like, yeah, I might kiss one of my
cousins or something.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Trying to look through your hottest cousin around.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
You know what's funny is Streamyard is definitely gonna make
a short of that and talk about kissing your hottest
cousin or something.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
In the kissing Cousins. Let's make sure it does.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, dude, that's great.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
Hey, you know I figured out what's the stream with
the interview with Happy If you do this, bro it does?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Is that what's doing it?

Speaker 5 (34:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:51):
It tells the people to drop us alike, drop us alike.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Drop us a light guys, Why doesn't do it for me?
It's like you've got little t rex hands. Look that's
brutal because you got white hands. There you go.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Yeah, I'm a ghost broh, Like we're dislike making Maybe.
I don't know if it'll do that. I'm not gonna
ask you to do that. We don't want bacon a witch, Matt.
What's what's up with the is it the ghosts?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
O G?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
What's up with all that stuff at CSI has I
forget what O G?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
I think?

Speaker 5 (35:27):
So, Yeah, there's puer O G, there's ghost o G.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
There's s f e O G. There's all kinds of
old O.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
G cuts or no, my bad. Not the white.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Oh the white? Uh? The white came from our buddy Chrome,
who was used to be a part of Swamp Boys
with Big Ricky. It comes out of Florida. I don't
know much more than that other than triangle s ones
will spit out some white type expressions and they're always
you know, but it looks like a really really first time.

(35:57):
It was a super restance, one of the most resonants
plants going around at the time. And yeah, it wasn't
that potent. It smelled like earth dirt and mushrooms kind
of like that. Really just like I don't know, like
I what I call TK cardboard turps with how it breeds,
That's what I'm talking about, the earth dirt mushroom turps.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
I kind of like some of that shit, That's what
I was asking. I had a pack of it from
CSO or like across the I forget what the cross.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Was, but I'd never rained any of that stuff.

Speaker 5 (36:25):
I was coming up on my next little round and
I was just going through some CSO packs and I
was just curious about it.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Some Stonia asked if chrome was balld it's kr omy,
But no, I don't. I don't think so. No, he's
a very handsome, handsome young man. Handsome young man.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
I would you think I was still cute off all
his bald bro maybe cuter, but you're all right, I'm
a dissib bro kissible.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
I'll be this person on the planet.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Okay, here we go. This is an interesting one. I
had a strain from an old head back in Ohio
ninety four. He showed me and gave me some seeds
of he called pearl, noting else that just pearl. It
was way different though, from the normal gas. The pips
weed from Ohio. The pearls he worked. They've been in Ohio,
India since early night. Yes, so the one pips we
had is the one we had. It came from pit

(37:14):
pit past it. It was called the silver pearl. And yeah,
it was like, I mean, some people smell like poopiness
to it. I always smelled like a weird kind of
not like pink bubble gum, but like a weird bubble
gummy sweet. It's it's like nothing else. Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
I got some of that kind of poopy smell on
What was that cross you did? Was it the great
Blue Hype So the creamy punch or the creamy punch Yeah, yeah, yeah,
or at least what you told me from the pictures
that you said.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Kind of like it was expressing more like silver pearl.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
I don't know much about silver pearl.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
I just I remember growing those out and I was
telling you about them, and they had this like not
baby poop, but that's kind of poopy smell.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
It was kind of weird, bro like.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, I loved the height of silver pearl is very mild,
but it was like a quality like upbeat for me.
It affected me. Upbeat, I always say me, because it's
not gonna affect everyone that way. Other people thought it
was weak, you know in our group, I know h
and l hated it, like he's like, I get rid
of this shit, but I loved it. I love that shit.
But uh yeah, easter on on that.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
Well, that's the thing is there's some stuff and I'm
not gonna plug it because I got a lot of
packs from random packs that I've gotten for free or
over the years that before I knew about you guys.
So occasionally I'll throw a little little hype plant or
two in the tent. I recently grew something that I
actually really liked out of the whole back of plants
that I grew, and it really surprised me because I've

(38:39):
seen some other guys talk about it in the discord
and they were just like, you know, that plant sucked
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
But it's weird.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
Sometimes you know, you get plants like that at express
really great for you. I don't know if it's a
or the you know a lot of those guys grow
with cocoa, and I'm doing a little bit something different,
so maybe there something to it.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
After seeing the sweet Peep cut, the difference of the
same cut between uh, you know somebody in local when
I met up with them. Uh, it's kind of wild
how different ship can express, dude, and different setups.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
It was really blew my mind. I've heard people on
the show before.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
I think, uh, pushed the giant or maybe it's farmer
Dan talking about just being up from the hill from
another plant the same cut and expressed in differently I thought,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, yeah, microclimates, yes, sir, in a while, dude, that
is the thing. It is definitely a thing. And yes,
shooting ropes, shooting ropes.

Speaker 6 (39:34):
Son com ropes, early ropes, Oh yeah, not like milky ropes.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
Haven't cut it. You think you think ducks with those
weird dicks shoot ropes. I don't know, because weird I
haven't seen.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Have you seen a du dig before?

Speaker 3 (39:50):
I don't think I have.

Speaker 5 (39:52):
It's you don't want to see, it'll blow your mind.
I don't look into it.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
I'm googling it right now. You know you're kind of important.
Duck penis what?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, dude, and that's a wild as ship.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
But why because so I think it's for competition, you
know the sperms. Hey, you didn't know you're gonna get
some fucking bill? No science got level editimacations today?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Yeah? Right?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
If you haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Go Google. Maybe serious relationship, you don't do that.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
But why is why are you standing here next to
this duck and comparing dix in this picture on Google?
That's weird. Just wanted to turn the th That's why
you told me not to look it up. That's what
was going on. Okay, that makes more sense.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
That's a weird ship on the internet.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
You remember rotten dot com.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
And oh yeah I lived on that site.

Speaker 5 (40:47):
Bro, me too, dude back in the day. Nowadays, Uh
not so much. But yeah, but is it still up?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I don't know, And I don't want.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
To click on a dude, because last time I heard
there was some kind of i'm not gonna say the name,
a cookbook on there that was supposed to getting you
watched I don't know. Yeah, it's too uh sorry looking
for my smoking devices.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Did you ever go to defication vacation? It was called
death vac dot Com. No, I don't. I don't know
if that's around it was. It was like rotten dot Com.
Time is like thirty of just like suicides and like yeah,
or I'm not supposed to say that word opting outs. Yeah,
that's what we're supposed to say, right.

Speaker 5 (41:24):
I remember being in fourth grade though, on a Rotten
dot com in the computer labs. You remember, did you
have computer labs when you're in school?

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Maybe I don't know, Yes, yes we did, Yes, we did.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
The whole class goes there and there'd be like eight
of us boys in the corner, all just giggling, you know,
because we're on rotten dot Com. We're going to off topic.
But before we do, I switched topics. Did you ever
see the one the dude was doing a I don't,
I don't know if he was doing a squad or
what everybody blew is o ring out it's all hanging
out the bottom.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yes, yes, yes, or like like c S. I named
after Lemon party. That picture was famous on there. Yeah,
the Lemon Party. I recently learned about the Blue Waffle
would use the thing you can look up and I again,
I don't recommend it.

Speaker 5 (42:13):
I'm good on that when I haven't seen that, I
think I heard of it, but I looked it up.
It's it's it's good, it's good.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Watch faces of Desk. Tony says, yeah. I actually when
I was young, like real young, I had the full
box set and I would always put it on during
parties when my friends came over and just to gross
everyone out. But I found out later on, like a
lot of it's filmed fake in there, So that's a bummer.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Well you know that's like c K, why too, bro?
That really bummed me out. I'll watch him so recently
and I love that shit growing up. But you know
where he was, Like there's a scene maybe you remember
and uh, I'll cut it short, but there's a scene
where they throw a fake body off of a bridge
and lands on the car.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, that dude driving the car was one of their buddies.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Of course it was.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
It's bush, yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
It's all fake, it's all rigged.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
I love that was my ship growing up. Dude's Kat
and BMX watching that kind of stuff. Jackass, you know
Tom Goatsy.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, Gutsy was good. Gutsy was good.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
Do you think we'll ever get like a phase of
uh like that kind of stuff again, like where people
will just do wild ship?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't know. It feels like sh it's so fake
now on the internet. And you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
You faked your death for Time's wife found me within
minutes each time. There you go, there you go. That's
a way to do it. That's a way to do it.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Oh yeah, talk about HERB.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Give us something to talk about HERB with. We've done
talked about it for I've done talked about it for
five years. I got to talk about Yeah, I don't know,
it's been a long time.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Well, I can talk about what I got going on,
not a lot of HERB. He uh. Well, mainly I'm
sitting on my tent right now. I gotta stet my
little controller up.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
Bro. Have you fucked with any of these.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
AC Infinity controllers?

Speaker 3 (43:59):
No, I have it.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
They're fucking kind of nice, dude. But I've been messing
with the eight by eight getting it set up. I
just got their new AC Infinity.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Dehumidifier AC heater unit, and I gotta say I'm slightly disappointed,
and I'm slightly pumped for it because there's pros and
cars to it. Uh, they advertise it as all in
one unit that will heat, cool, dehumidify, or circulate just
all the shit's on a loop system or whatever, which

(44:32):
it does that. But the thing that they kind of
are misleading on that, And then a couple of guys
were asking about in the discord.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
This is why I'm even bringing it up.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
But something I found with it is if you're running
CO two, it's fucking great because you can do it
on that closed circuit loop type thing. But if you're
trying to use it for like how I was planning
on using it, it's marketed as being this all in
one thing, but it really only will heat and dehuman medify.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Or cool and dehumidify.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
So yeah, I don't have the controller hooked up, and
so maybe it's a program I can do for it.
But as far as like it working as an AC
unit and a d human edervier is working, fucking great.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
But yeah, that's something that I was a little bommed on,
and I know a couple of guys are asking about it.
So if you're looking for something that's an all in
one thing, that's probably not gonna be answer because like
I still have to put a little mini heater in
there with it if I'm wanting to use it as
a AC right, maybe with the program, I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Can like fix that.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
But I don't know anybody chat fuck with the AC
unit yet? And can you program it to do all three?

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Maybe I'm wrong?

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Let me know in the chat please, I'm I'm trying
to figure this technology out.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
People are telling people to look up the vapor pressure
deficit charts. Yeah, that's what VPD means from people who
don't know. Uh, there was one thing I was getting.
Oh so you mentioned CO two right. Have you ever
messed with with CO two at all? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (45:55):
No, literally it was planning unfucking with it, But I
haven't really uh being with it that I got to
set up like a does think about it, But no,
not really because I mean I haven't been running roll
a lot of lights or heat or anything, or a
lot of my rooms are not have not been closed,
I guess I should say.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
But yeap, what you got on it?

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Well, I remember first when I first started growing. You know,
people talking about CO two burners and all this stuff,
and I was like, I don't know, I'm gonna go
cheap because I was trying to go cheap with everything.
So I was broke. I still am. I'm a broke boy. Whatever.
So I went and learned how to make this weird.
I think it was like a sugar and yeast type

(46:38):
situation with tubes and idol. Yeah, and you run it
all around your tent, and you can make natural CO
two that way, except that I didn't know that like
if you shake it up, it explodes through the tubes
and covers your whole room and like DC. Yeah, I
went through that. I have tanks that I'd used in
the past, but I just never if you're going indoors,

(47:00):
unless it's like a really sealed, sealed, sealed room, I
don't I just don't see a lot of benefit with
it unless unless you need weight you don't care about,
you know, you want to do the trade off, not
that you don't care about, but you're willing to do
the trade off weight for quality is what I've seen.
So yeah, I'm just wondering. You know, a lot of

(47:21):
people out there are using CO two. You know, if
you're if you're pulling in outside are using CO two. Yeah,
it's interesting. I never really loved it.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
I was just saying, I really like this unit for
that specifically, if you'm I actually am not using it
for that right now. But I've been looking at Uheal
two tanks and stuff. But I was going to ask
you actually if it was worth it.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
But I mean you can go get tanks filled, hook
up everything to it and do it that way. I mean,
it's just I don't know, man, it'll yield more, it'll
definitely yield more, but there's always the trade off. Trade
off is big, yeah, and it's always super obvious.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
I'm just in this weird phase right now where it's like,
you know, just trying different stuff, you know, and you know,
I always like to get girls input on stuff and
trust stuff out. Man, see if it works for me.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
We pumped CO two to twenty two hundred ppm in
a twenty light room, had defeat accordingly, But CO two
is the only way. Oh that's interesting. See, I didn't
know that all that early shit was grown with CO
two with OG. That's I need to have Resin on
and tell tell his recipes for OG and ship again,
because that's interesting ship that.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, so I asked earlier and I didn't ask you
this time. What you're working on next? Matt?

Speaker 3 (48:40):
So, I I've decided that I am gonna do the
blueberry fan work. I need. I need another round with
the blues because I'm it's it's it's Menoo.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Don't know a fucking blue pea for me, Matt, Goddamn.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, I could do that. I have a bitter send
of the cuts. Yeah, he's offered to send back cuts
and ships, So why.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Not, guys? Fam you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
I mean, I got potent blues, but do it for
the sours the kims? Come on? Yeah, I don't see
why not. That P ninety one cuts really fucking good.
That that bitter keeps.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
We talked about that tried and blue drop tried and
blue good stuff. Here, let's just let the chat solve.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
It, Matt.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Okay, here we go leave it to chat.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Okay, if you want to see uh blue P ninety one,
blue kim d or a blue sour or you ain't
got sour?

Speaker 3 (49:40):
I got blue sour.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
Yeah, one of those blueberries in the chat.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
You know what I'm saying there you go. Just don't
say ship.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
You don't want to see it. But but hoole in chat,
I don't know how. I don't know if they have
a I don't know. Yeah, blue and rubber City. I
mean I would do a blue Kim four. I don't
know about rubber City. But don't do blue Chimp. That'd
be cool.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Yeah, cool anything that, dude, that would give it a
little stretch man, you know, if you're doing are you
talking about doing like an IX fan work?

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Yeah? Well see, I'm still that's the place where I'm
still stuck. Do I go back to Bonnet or Bonnet
b X one or do I take it to the
blue in Cross and wrist a bunch of bad recessives
popping out because there's bad recessive and Blueberry. The blue
in Cross has worked a lot more than even the
Bonde is back to the Blueberry. So yeah, I don't

(50:30):
I don't know on that one still, but it's gonna
be one of the two. But I have to have
I have to have a blue femline. With all the
blues there, people always ask for it, so it makes
sense to get it done.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, we'll get some We'll get some blueberries.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
People look like three you know, yeah, yeah, you know
that blue sour though I can't say nothing about it, Matt, excellent.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I just literally found a little tiny nug of it
right here.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Let me see, let me see a little nug. It's
gonna get a sand bro Uh.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
It's been out here like two weeks.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Its oh my god, it's fully seated.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
But my point about it is due it's awesome, dude.
Cuts of it there are like two foot till I'm
about to rerun here like maybe two weeks or so.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
I'll flip them again. Not not doing this time, Matt.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Not you say that until you do just.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
A little bit of dhosting right here.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Yeah, Mike said, I'm dealing with cancer. What is your
recommendation on which strain I should get for pain? So
I'm really careful telling people what they should get for
their own brain chemistry and what works with their pain.
For me, the reason I like blues so much is
it works from anxiety, it works for pain, works for
everything for me specifically, I don't we doesn't really work

(51:44):
in a way that one strain does a certain type
of thing for everyone. One one plant does a certain
type of high for everyone. There's no such thing as
tativa do this and you could do that. Hybrids do both.
That's another question I have too, is like when people
talk about Sativa's are up, indicas are down? What the
fuck's the hybrid?

Speaker 7 (52:03):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Turn you up and down?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Do what?

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Like the logic? Got it? Do hybrids? Are they supposed
to turn you up and down? Is that what people
tell people when they're like, oh, Sativa's always do this,
do this? And hybrids?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Yeah yeah, yeah, pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
I've never figured that part out, Like what's it supposed
to do? Is it like taking benzos in speed? Or
like what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, I'm Mike, I'm sorry you're dealing with that, dude.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Yeah, you know, uh you best, Uh you know, just
do what you gotta do. My dad's been through a
lot with his brain tumors and strokes and stuff, so
that stuff's hard.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
Man.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
I'm sorry you're dealing with Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Yeah, lots of love for Mike, Say to love your way, bro.
Someone asked about Blue Mystic. Uh. I think it was
a Nirvana hybrid or something. I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
It's been a lot of time, yuh, I remember that
as a mushroom.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Blue sour selection cross the camp. That sounds. I mean,
that's cool. I wouldn't mind you just work with the
blue sour, just because I'm almost out of it completely,
almost to the very last seed. Brother.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Oh really, you'd be like the be how much and
how many do you matter?

Speaker 5 (53:17):
If I asked how many you originally started started with
roughly more blue sour.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
I had tons of packs of it, but I gave
so much of it away. That was my problem because
nobody was buying it, so I just gave it away.
I thought I made it because everybody's wanting sour. I'm like, okay,
you can get sour out of this pretty well, like
it's not all gonna be berry sour, and nobody gave
fuck didn't listen, so I just gave it away.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
I got so lucky. You're right, because I remember with
the Patroon packs you were.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
You get sent out a bunch of them with that, yeah,
ended up with like twenty five seeds.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Bro h. I bought some more when they were cheap, dude,
because now it's like expensive but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Or not expensive for a pack. You know what I'm saying,
they're more expensiveecially, I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Yeah. Uh, someone asked, Uho Grobo, do you know anything
about the I ninety five that Matt Elite used. Yes,
it's uh well that has a star dog triangle kim
d Uh yeah, I think that was it wasn't it
TK star dog. It's been a long time, but yeah. Anyways, Yeah,

(54:23):
it's really potent ship. It's very O G dominant. As
far as just I ninety five, the kim d I
ninety five was really fucking nice. But the chem ninety
one kim D I ninety five spits out a lot
of KM ninety one types it was that were really nice.
Some people are mentioning blue cams had blue cams.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Uh yeah, I meant to say, I gotta send you
some packs. Still, bro, I got I'll get them out
for you the next couple of days.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
My bad. It's all good green crack, blueberry you know. Yeah,
I won't even tell that story, but yeah, I I yeah,
chasing the chasing the the green Crack was a long,
a long haul because a lot of people said they
had it and didn't and I let it go because

(55:08):
an ex co host told me to let it go.
He hadn't covered you didn't even have the cut. So
absolutely see I did a blueberry wedding cake. There's probably
still some of those somewhere.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
But yeah, when you go and drop some stuff you've
got you know, I know you got some other packs.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Man, I've got all kinds of other pack that that
means adding them to the site. Come on, that's adding
to the site.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
And that's that's the pain Gros season. It's about to
be a groceries and fam we're trying to.

Speaker 5 (55:33):
Because honestly, dude, you gave me some of those what
is it dose bananas bro, and I'm yeah, talking shit.
I didn't want to expect too much from it, but
I'll throw a couple of packs or cole from your
like random older stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Sometimes it was awesome, dude, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
That was on the site. But you know, I mean
we want banana. I don't even like banana o G
stuff anymore, Like I really, I did a lot of
work with it. I tried to make perfect banana stuff.
And there again, cardboard stuff runs through that shit because
of the the Sigamath of sixty forty And that's not
talking shit on Sagamath that they were selling some white
label seeds of something else for someone. Then indoor mix

(56:08):
of sorts and that was what the sixty forty was.
But yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
When's the first time you you ran into green crack, bro.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
First time down in San Diego, it was called Cush Cush.
Someone mentioned Cecil's green crack meat chamber. So I'm friends
with Cecil. Good guy, wonderful dude. But I don't know
how his name necessarily got linked with green crack because
he had nothing to do with green crack. He had
a cush with the sea as well, and I think
that's why he or why people assumed maybe that it

(56:40):
was his that he sent out to San Diego, but
his was skunky according to him, and green crack is
not skunky. It's pretty strong mango. It's it's hard to
confuse the two. Yeah, shout out Cecil. I don't know
where he's at right now, but shout him out.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
That mango and H and L stuff of allah is
so good, dude, that it's really good.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean I late the green crack I'm
pretty sure is just and and I hate being very
sure about things that aren't published, you know. Yeah, but
it's a very nice skunk one type and that's I
don't see anything else in it. I see Skunk one.

(57:23):
It's a more Afghany dominant version of Skunk one. But
it's just a really and I don't like the high
skunk one at all. Just don't.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Do you have a cross? Do you have a blue
cross to the train Wreck?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Up?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Thank god?

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Hmm? Did I do that? I don't think I did
any of that? We did? Who is it? Space? Did
a punchy blooster cross to an S one of packs
train Wreck? He does have that. He does have that,
And that's you know, like blueberry grape and lemon terpenoline.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
I like, I love, I love train rep I do
do like that on pe, like on the with the
p hob bro oh. I bet yeah, with that flavor
mixed in there. Oh, I like that train Wreck stuff.
I got some of the s ones, but they're so yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I like that stuff.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
Yeah, dudea or yeah. I mean I think just some
kind of kim the p would be cool. I don't
know Matt's sure ship. I'm just here, I in theory.
I'll her and think about this all the time.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
I mean, he was mine, he was mine.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Well you know, you know what I'm saying though, Yeah,
I mean I I I.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Did. I made the s ones and then moved on
from it. And there were certain people that were really
interested in the s ones, even more than I was,
because by the time that I was really interested in
when I was in San Diego had a partner that
grew it. I was in a eleve of even look
at it for longer ten minutes without him yelling, you know,
couldn't come near it. He's always scared of people stealing
cuts getting out, and I didn't even get the cut

(58:56):
until I left San Diego, and by that time I'd
lost a lot of interest. So I made the s
ones sold him and Bitter obviously he's from San Diego,
so he really really was interested in it. So I
passed it on to him, and he did some amazing work,
you know, across two of the S one selections to
each other and made something better than came out of
the s ones that I experienced. Uh So, yeah, that's
where that cuts from. And I I like it. I

(59:19):
do like it, so it's not it's not bad advice.
But yeah, I think of Bitter, I think of p
so I passed.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
Yeah, I meant more from just like a standpoint of
telling you, like, sure, drop, you're you're making the seed
dumps in here, be like make this, make this, and
you know how it is people do that.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Yeah, dude, I mean, I'm I've been short on ideas
for a while on what to even do. I mean,
the home e CSI has made every femme line and
s one that you could ever think of and made
them available. So I need to do femme work, and
I'm like, what the hell do I do? So that
it only makes sense to stick a blue for a
little bit. And yeah, I like Scusa's blue shoreline. I

(59:59):
think that would be really interesting. I think it would
be more interesting than like a blue green crack, to
be honest. Yeah, shorelines funky, So yeah, it could be interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Green ker Eric, that's the that's what I was thinking
of earlier. I got I've been smoking on that. But
I got some pe uh some P ninety one I
was smoking on and there there were some green cracks
or not green crag with some electric mango hayes seeds
in there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Across to the pe. I found like five or six
I'm kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Yeah, bet dude.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
And and in the same in the Loopa's headband. Bro,
there was some green, I keep saying, and crack electric
mango haye seeds in there with it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Nice. Nice, that's a pre pri you like, do you
have you got the dog shit clone yet?

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Or do you not?

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Even you didn't even interested in it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I mean I'd be interested in it. No, just shore Line,
Uh have like a handful of them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
Not that one though, little no story. That cut was
not supposed to be fucking past and duck ship it
let your boogaoo and it was you know, people make
promises they're not gonna pass stuff and someone backdoored it
out from a place a good friend that I mentioned
this episode. Yeah, and it made the rounds, So it's

(01:01:14):
out there. But I'm glad because I think it's It's
an amazing it's amazing cut. It's one of the few
cuts that that I can say genuinely, everybody I've met
loves it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
It's great. Dude, the uh forget what you cross? Though?

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
It was?

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Was it the one of Asian news we smoked at
the party? Dude, it was fucking great and uh it
reminded me, I don't know, I can't remember. I shouldn't
speak on something I don't even remember, but it was
just good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Didn't you do a boogaloo appy?

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yeah, that's what I think. It's this thing Loco calls
a pinot or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
I don't I have no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
Maybe maybe uh anyways that it's that same I'm getting
that same almost profile on uh that breaking diesel dude.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
And it's fucking yeah, raunchy. I love it. Luke Cocky
kills the pain for life blue Cocky. Yeah, best name
it's farmer Dan came up with that name.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Is that the White Runs or the which one is
that one which crosses that so White Run?

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
I think it's the SUREB. It's the the SRB cream
Pie Yeah yeah, sub cream Pie blues for me. Yeah,
because it was blasphemy for me to work at White Runs.
Just for the lull, all right, I want to see it. Yeah.

(01:02:34):
The fish asked, is it is dog ship? I think
he means an NL five hates pean. I don't think so.
I don't think so. I think it's skunk one across
to maybe N five. I don't know if there's hazy.
I don't fucking know. It's very even though the way
it grows. I think it's very Afghanny dominant, but you
could still smell Skunk one in it. Reminds me, I
don't know, I see I see relationships in it, in smells,

(01:02:54):
especially in sense, even though they're different, I could still
see Skunk one in it and similar to something like
not similar, but relationship to Old Betsy and stuff like
that too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
I'm fucking with some old Betsy right now, not the
cut or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
But yeah, you never, Tom Vardekis asked, you never messed
with Acis stuff. Man, I've I've grown Acis stuff for
years and years and years and did work with some
that their version of Pakistani CHATROLLI I worked with and
did releases on with the ryde O g That's what
I put in it back in the day to make
it well. First, to inject more lemon into it, because

(01:03:33):
the green expression I had was super lemony. The males
from the A seeds one and yeah, I wanted a
regular seed version.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Of its questions you do well?

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
No, no, that's quick, k w I K seeds is
uh the real seed cokay? Yeah? Yeah, I mean they
sell similar type stuff, you know, land racey uh, land
race hybrid stuff like that this is cool.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
I picked up some stuff like C ninety nine ship
from them, some other I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Have a I have a big freezer bag full of
real seed coast stuff. For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
I'm a dumass.

Speaker 5 (01:04:10):
When I went to order that ship, didn't take heads
consideration of like the fucking money exchange, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Oh yeah, bought like Mom's like, why is this on
the credit card?

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Forty dollars? Yeah, yeah, right, No, it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Was like four or five hundred bucks. But I just
I think in the cart, you know, before the exchange, Like,
I don't know. Anyways, it was just funny.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
What's up, mad jag, shout out, mad jag, what's up, buddy, buddy?
Artificial turkey? So what we were talking about is it
a link in the description? And it was a documentary
A dude named mc did on. They called him spray
packs and essentially spraying down perfectly fine weed or maybe
not perfectly fine weed, but maybe even hemp, I don't know. Nonetheless,

(01:05:00):
with artificial terpenes derived from other plants or synthetic terpenes,
and the benefits or negatives thereof, it was interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
It's wild, dude.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
I can't believe that I'd still kind of I was
telling her when I was in her watching, I was like,
these motherfuckers are like buying the ship and really smoking
like that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
Yeah, yah. Dino Grobino asked Matt, what do you think
of the white runts? I mean runts? Is it my thing? Really?
I don't know what makes it white. I don't know
why that's in the name. I don't understand. I don't
know the genetics of it. So, I mean it makes
perfectly find you know, sureby cookie type hybrids. But yeah, yeah,

(01:05:45):
I have to have stuff for like modern stuff, and yeah,
that just is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
What it is which kinds uh concentrates?

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Yeah, I mean I think contract tobaccos, Yes, yes, of course,
concentrated tobaccos.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
Traded tobacco here. I would love to show off.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
What kind does that?

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Would you think it is?

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Bam gmo because it's extracts? No, what do I do? Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Dude? I don't believe that that is any kind of
kim dog extract on earth? Kim d Oh? Did someone?
Did someone make it in the group?

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
I can't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
That would be nice. That would be nice if it's
someone that from the group I thought you went and
bought it. I saw someone posted a ninety one extracts
and I was like, oh, and it was like in packaging.
I was like, oh, motherfuckers, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Got no Kim ninety one, no bro, real deal, real deal.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
That would be nice. I can't any of that. I
think I had bubble hash. I think from the same person.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Probably yeah, maybe I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
We're getting crazy. We can't speak on it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
I know I can't even speak on it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
What the hell clear this first? Can you entertain for
just a second, Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
I can entertain. I can damn. I'm doing a TikTok
dance right now? Why you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
When when the Troy coming on our show?

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Okay? So, so Troy Troy had a schedule for his
show tonight and I don't I don't know why, but
we hadn't talked about doing his show tonight, but we
did say, yeah, let's let's cross promote on it or something.
They were doing a going to a concert tonight, So
like last minute, he's like, hey, you guys doing the
show tonight And I was like, wait, what we're doing

(01:07:26):
the show? We have a show go tonight. Why would
we do the show tonight? And I think he meant
like cross broadcast. I just don't know how to do
that yet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Are we going on here show or is he coming
on here?

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Pause? I don't know. I don't know if we're we're
going to broadcast to his I don't know. We haven't
like really discussed it in in depth at all, because
you know how I do. I'm not really a details man.
Just show up. But uh yeah, we'll see head man.
Oh yeah, shout out to I love we live two

(01:07:57):
C two glass glass by C two calm. I think
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Two years but I got one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Yeah yeah. Maddenly wanted one and I ended up sending
him one of mine too, But he doesn't. He didn't
he didn't want secondhand ones. Matt, you are you are
picky bro. Your wouldn't take a second hand one. He's like,
who smoked out of this? Who smoked wax out of this?
And it was because I had watched it out with

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alcohol turned it upside down and it left a little
bit of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
I don't mind secondhand Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
I don't mind second hand glass.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
I'll get I don't care, we'll get, you know, to
get a good piece.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
This is, you know, after seeing it in person, Bro,
I really do think, uh, you know, he really is
worth going next yr, you know and buying the better piece, Bro,
American Maid fan.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
I mean this, dude, For the price, Dude, it's it's
not even comparable like those things are. They're such a
good price. And I have I've had five hundred dollar bos.
I've had five thousand dollar bongs, you know, all all
three there, And that is my favorite piece I have
ever ever. Actually I had a bigger one. They had
two of the disky things in it, like the percolators

(01:09:09):
in it. That's when I sent mad. That was my
favorite piece I've ever owned ever, of all time. It
just the way it smokes, how quickly it pulls the
smoke in. There's never any stale smoke. There's all kinds
of reasons why I liked it more.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
But yeah, that means I should say if I do
want to buy one from the person that makes them,
for sure, I just haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
He's been busy for him.

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
But yeah, how that got one. I'm happy, Bro, I
can retire as piece of shit I got over here. Uh,
I'm pretty bad with bongs. Matt I'll knock them over
and break.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Them same same. And that's why having that thick glass
is really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Dude, you got one of these ones too, don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
I think it's the same.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
I think so, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
Day. Yeah. And then I have a one of their
ash catchers, and they took the percolator out of the
ash catcher, which is what I wanted because I wanted
to be able just to clean it, run it through
a syncral fast and clean it and blast it out
and that makes it. It keeps the peace clean. That
thing's super easy to clean. I've dropped all of it
on the floor from you know, five feet up and

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not break. Even the bowl that it comes with didn't break. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:10:16):
Yeah, this things. I could imagine this thing. Dude, it's
you could kill. But yeah, you really could figure figurative yeah,
figuratively emotionally killed, you know what I mean. You know
what I mean, Yeah, emotionally. We were talking about earlier
about Charling be able to do it in Michigan maybe,

(01:10:37):
but if that don't work out, we need to do
some stuff like that. Think it'd be cool to hit
the road for a day.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
That would be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
A farm or something, get there. Let me film certain
times off.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
They probably would. We're talking about Tyler from Secret Society Seeds.

Speaker 7 (01:10:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
I don't have his flower in here to save the
name of the company, but amazing company grows insane flower
and like a six fifty lighter insane quality, Like I
don't really ever see quality like that when you have
to step up to like six hundred and fifty, like
I've never seen that. It's it's connoisseur quality. And so

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he should be proud of that ship. And he also
made the best extracts that I had seen up until
that point by far.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
By far.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
He had all kinds of diamonds and sauce and shit
in Michigan when I went out there. Yeah, dude, he's
a talented guy. So shout out Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Shout out Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Yeah, he'd be a great interview too, though, just because
he's funny as hell. Every time. Every he would be
at seriously, every event I went to. He's very social,
so he would be at every event, like you know,
making his way around and meeting people. But dude, like
he would have me dying laughing and every time. He's
who I'd hang out with every time. So yeah, good friend.

Speaker 5 (01:11:54):
He's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
I like fun people, Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
He's very fun and funny, very funny.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Yeah, cool Like.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
I don't know, I'm just some dude of growth weed
at home, but you know, if you give me an opportunity,
I would definitely like to go visit him or something
that'd be cool.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Yeah, dude, I think you guys would get along fast.

Speaker 5 (01:12:11):
Yeah, I want to do cool ship. And he's a
Michigan baby. Yeah what I'm saying Michigan baby boy. I
love Kentucky. Shout out Florida as well.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Yeah you're a Kentucky boy. What are you doing? What
are you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
I got a rock out, you know, they're like doing
over there, hey, mixing spit mixing slava.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I gotta say that, Kim that's fucking fire.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
That's probably literally one of the best daves I've hit.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Bro. One of my favorite parts. Uh moments at a party.
I don't know if mister sour Shoes is still in here,
but we were passing around Kim D Flower like real
Kim D, you know, and uh, all of a sudden,
he's I mean, he smokes a lot, but he's just
you see him leaning over just kind of looks like

(01:12:56):
he's thinking meditating. We're all just kind of looking at
him like, oh shit. You know, we keep talking, you know,
about twenty minutes goes by, and all of a sudden
he looks at this U backfellas. You know, this is
one of those moments where you realize that Kim d
had hit him.

Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
And yeah, that's the first time I got to try.
I've been waiting to try that, so, yeah, first time
I got to try.

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
How is it?

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
How's the extract?

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
It's good, dude, It's funky.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
Yeah, really, I'm the flavor and the smell is kind
of like that, I don't know, just that really runch
kind of kim smell.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Bro almost, I don't know. It's just good, dude. I
don't know. I'm not gonna butcher the smell, but I'll
get someone else to describe it. But great.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Uh, just so in space that I need a new
Choco cut. I bought ECSD and it's not Choco that
I had before. Yeah. Uh, that's my favorite cut of
sour by far, like it has one hundred names. I
needed Choco because I was showing pictures at the time
and Chaco had the best pictures of it, and I
was like, Okay, this is the cut that I'm growing.

(01:13:57):
It looks the most like this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
It came from an e CSD. So that's how it
got His name got stuck with it because he had
the best grows of it, and that's just how it
started getting referred to. I don't know, dude, this is
what it comes down to, like the whole buying cuts
online and you just it's brutal. It's brutal, man Like, Yeah,

(01:14:19):
I agree, we need to have Booze back on Surfer.
I love Booze. Booze is a funny, funny, sick cut too.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Yeah, I like you. I like all the Australian cats
and they're always fun. I don't know. I like, if
I could live down there, bro would Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
I would too, dude. I kind of thinking I might
move it this this, Yeah, everything going on, I'll never
be able to get back in. I'm too brown.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
You could see me on the three wheeler on the desert,
big titty woman on the back, I mean my wife,
uh you know, and yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Enjoying it out there. I would be. I've been right
in down there, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
My brother just brought over some old mini bikes. And
my motor cycles and stuff to store at my house.
I'd like to rip on a little mini bike. It
probably looked normal size on me like I would. Most
people would look like a shriner on it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
But yeah, bro, you know those little ones you can
get for like a kid at Walmart. Yeah, big wheels,
like five horns or something a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:15:19):
I traded one of those for like a half ounce
one time years ago when I lived on the farm. Dude,
I would joy ride with it anyways, but when people
would come through Due, that would be my little thing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
I would meet them down the gravel road.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
But i'd I can see your big on a little
tiny mini bike. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
No, you know I told you years ago I was
like six nine. I'm not really six nine.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Right, Yes, I know?

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Yeah, you like, yes, right five eleven on a good day,
he said.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
I think you said you were six four. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Yeah, Well, Nally fucked with you first time you met you, Yes,
he did. I felt dirty lying to you, but that
was good. Show up. He's expecting this big ass man
and I'm just some dude average.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
I love that ship, dude, I love that ship. Denali
got me good, convincing me. He was a deaf mute
orute passing a notepad back and forth getting a discount
on clockwork corn seeds.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
I thought about sucking with them, like taping my knee
and put him in like some overalls or something.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
So I got one leg.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
But thank god I did, because that storm comes through.
Came through at that party a mile we had to
walk because all the paralynes were down and ship bro.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
But I was thinking about fucking with him and being
just like having one leg.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
That would have been funny.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Dude that cut off in the motor accident.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah, you and Denal he probably did well together,
didn't you. Oh yeah yeah yeah, good kisser, good kisser man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Yeah we have fun.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
I mean, yeah, I could fit in with anybody. I mean,
how would get along with everybody? I mean it was
just like a discordeous hanging out in real life, you know.
And at that point, I've seen pictures everybody so much
that you know, I knew who everybody was, even Hanel,
did you know h and Ella's No, Actually he's the
only person I hadn't seen previous. I knew he was

(01:17:23):
just because I had seen pretty much everybody else. And yeah,
but what threw me off about him. Was I thought
that motherfucker would be like sixty or seven years old.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Uh huh, he's like three years older than me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Yeah, he's younger than me. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah. I
remember walking into the last party I was at the
one that I got really sick at. But before I
got sick, I remember walking in and it was a
horrible drive there, horrible road partner, just terrible day. Took forever.
It was late, I can't see in the dark, like,

(01:17:56):
it was just terrible, driving through like a canyon and shit.
We finally got there. Some guy says hi to me.
I think it's someone else in the group that isn't
in the group anymore. I was like, oh, hey, what's up, dude,
you know, just walk past him, blow him off, like
I got a good room and take my ship in there.
You know. Later on I realized who it was, and
I was like, oh shit, yeah, I had no clue
because he's submitted a man of many mysteries.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
No, h and l oh, h Andel, my bad brattle.
I didn't know a second.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
He didn't know where you're at. No, I already knew
Denali by that point, so I h and l was
the last man of mystery that I didn't know what
he looked like, so I just blew him off. I
thought he was Panda or someone else. I was like,
I put her fucking dork, you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
Know, yeah, yeah, you hate me, dude, because you know
in the discord we.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Joke personality though you really can't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
He's just uh, he was funny.

Speaker 5 (01:18:51):
He tried to play a prank on me and put
Oreo cake or something on mean, while I was sleeping,
but I was away.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Just walks in there and you know how like a.

Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
Normal person would just sneak in and the dark can
do it. He has up to his face like this,
so as he's walking in the bedroom or whatever, he's
lit up like this with the cake.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Put this on you or something. I don't maybe just
bringing me one. I don't fucking know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Yeah, maybe it was something hanky pinky going on. Get
a little action. I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
Then we were talking at that party and I think
I brought it up and I was like talking about
how I loved moths and all this ship and he's
like me too, and I thought he's fucking with me,
But he really is into moss. You know, we have
to talk about Oreos. We like Oreos and cookies and
cream bars and things like that. I don't know, it's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
I like Oreos too, but I'm a fat kid. We
like all all things chocolate and sugar.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Hey, I don't until I get high.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:19:50):
Once I get high, I'm like a vacuum cleaner. If
there's certain ship. Yeah, I'm I'm inhaling the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
Yeah, like a vacuum cleaner.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
Oh yeah, yeah man, I'm uh yeah, me and her
we could kill a bag. Like have you had some
fucking animal cookies? The iceed ones with icing on them.

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
They they're good. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Anyway, we're going off.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
I got some Oreo popcorn the other day.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Oh it's so good. It's so good. Half the bag
in like two minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:20:25):
Yeah dude.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Oh anyways, oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Pin's got got some Somerios.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Oh nice.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
Yeah, that's I don't care if it's off topic. That
ship's good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
That's I just got some freeze dried ice cream. Bro,
I've been that. You ever have that kind of stuff?
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
Just sent me some.

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Yeah, she makes some good stuff. Yeah, was like, uh,
you know, edible, It was just regular stuff. But that's
so good man.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
This one came into the cone. It was all shrunk down.

Speaker 5 (01:20:58):
Yeah stick Yeah, these are ice cream sandwiches, but uh oh,
I love those Neapolitan ones. But there was a base
down in Pensacola, Florida. Bro a naval base and it's
still there. I don't know if you've ever seen the
Blue Angels. Well, yes, down there they have the space uh.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Nabel yeah yeah, the space food Yeah broh, that space
a kid. I love that ship. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Space food cool. Bro Oh that sounds Goode's peanut butter cups, wores.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
I got some recy pieces of ice cream bars in
the house right now for those.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
Are good too.

Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
I got some creamy Oreo ice cream in the fridge.
It's like really soft, like.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Ship Channel guys.

Speaker 7 (01:21:46):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Yeah, dude, there you go smr licking on the mic
just for you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:21:53):
Having a blast trying out some good weed and and
stuff like that. And now you guys can make fun
to me anymore for doing super Boof for abuse.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
Yeah? Who I think it was who asked me the
other day. He texted me He's like, hey, there's an
old string. Do you know who what super Boof is?
I'm like, super Boof. I don't know if that's old.
I'm pretty sure, but yeah, no, I don't know anything
about it. Isn't it? Is it from Michigan? Do we
know that?

Speaker 5 (01:22:21):
I don't know if it's from here, I don't know.
I don't know the person made it or whatever. But
it's still it's pretty popular. Some people people in Michigan
and Detroit are like, oh, it's old news. But out
here in the country where I'm at, I still see
it a lot. Let me see here in the cut
there's a cut. There's two different cuts of it that
I know of that float around. One is the super

(01:22:41):
boof and then there's like some cherry booth or cherry
cherry super boof.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Yeah, black cherry punch and tropicanic cookies. According to Leifley,
we all know they don't know their ship, so let
me see me get a second second take on that.
I don't even know who you would even ask that
would know this stuff. You there, Yeah, it just sounded
like a hole.

Speaker 5 (01:23:02):
I did get a comment from one of the OG
guys they watched. He was like, uh, you know, and
shout out dude for watching the show.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:10):
But uh, he said, uh, you know, I'm I'm from
a time before we'd even had names, and uh, when
I watched your.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Strame review, I thought, you know, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 5 (01:23:21):
And uh he said, he went and tried super Boop
and he's like, I gotta say, dude, I kind of
end up really liking it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
So, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
If it has tropicanic cookies in it, there's no way
I could like it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
I mean, you know, you're gonna just gonna blast guys
like us.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Aw.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
No, but the flavor and what no, that's does it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Does it have orange flavor to it?

Speaker 5 (01:23:42):
Yeah, it's kind of got that. I said that too,
But out of recently, I kinda not. I've been on
a little bit more. I've been up here in Michigan.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
Some of you know still doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
You know, did not always touch my buttthole at the party.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
So ever, since then, you started liking Calio stuff the
little pretty guys. No, yeah, like that Calio taste after
Danali did that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Oh yeah, No, just trying, I mean, you know, just
trying different ship, Matt.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
You know how it is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
I mean, it's fun to try different weed. Would I
grow it? Probably not.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
But you know, I've had good orange bud that tastes
like like a fifty to fifty bar, like creamy, like
an orange cream sickle type thing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
I like sweet orange that's fine, but like tangy turps,
I cannot stand it. Tastes like uh and he alost
smells too, like like pizza sauce mixed with an orange pill.

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
And it just that kind of like it depends you
hit me with. It depends on whatever of the day,
not you hit me with what. I'll smoke anything, bro,
I mean, what kind of I'd be a hypocrite fan.
I was back in the day smoking Reggie that was
coming out of a gas tank or Coca cola over
probably or something.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
So yeah, fucking yeah it FuG it Ray, We're on.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
That quest, Matt. We're gonna smoke everything.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Uh. You know, someone said I love shirt syntax said
I love Surbanger. I think our body relentless made that
or I think it was relentless. Yeah, I haven't tried it.
I'm not a sureb fan, but Headbanger came from a
snitch that snitched on me, So don't love that. But
I do like the people that put out a surbanger,

(01:25:22):
so I will give them prop for doing it because
they're good guys. Thumbs up.

Speaker 5 (01:25:27):
Oh yeah, anyone got any questions for us in chat?
We're getting up on the two hour mark.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Yeah, two hour mark. We're one twenty five?

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
How high are you?

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Who am I the kim?

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
Fuck me up? Help help BlackBerry? BlackBerry? And yes it's
so uh I BlackBerry. There's very few real BlackBerry crosses
out there. There's BlackBerry cush, which is like a very
frosty m frosty but with no no uh no real potency. Yeah,

(01:26:05):
but not I think I would doubt anybody has BlackBerry
inside their Yeah, anyway, Can I give the story on Headbanger?
There once was a snitch from Amsterdam. Here, here's the
nice Matt. There once was a guy I no longer
agree with because he likes telling the law on people
and putting his name on on paperwork. Uh that that

(01:26:29):
trying to sell out other seat guys for selling seats.
Can you give the story on it? He had someone
else make a string for him. That's crossing sour diesel
to something else. Uh a headband, I think. And then
you get head Banger.

Speaker 5 (01:26:41):
There you go, got that permanent smile. Fam, it's because
so I got somebody on their table taking take on
my asshole right now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
Uh did I ever try the Mandel band? That's a
way better name for it than l A cush or
not So's head battles. What the mano brought headband? I
didn't like it. I thought it I personally did not
like l A cush at all. I thought it was
super midsy bam. But you know, some people really do
like it, so it might just be me, you know,

(01:27:14):
I had other good sours bit.

Speaker 5 (01:27:16):
I don't know if it's the real shit, but there's
some of that floats around here in a couple. There's
like La cush Pie or something. There's a few different
ones too, crosses of different things. But I didn't think
it was that great. If it's even the real shit,
you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you know, I don't
I don't like I mean, I I disagree with manl
Brodt's brother all the time. He's a a fellow. I
have no uh no relationship with yes, So yeah, I
just I didn't like the actual cut though, it sticking

(01:27:49):
to just the weed. Not my favorite, not my favorite.
How long did I have to set up a new
coffee thing end of the month, whenever it's good for
you realistically, the Yeah, I can't say much more on
the YouTube about it, but hit me up in the discord.
So as Jessel is still my favorite of the Kim

(01:28:09):
fam always, always, I like Kim four two. I would
say Dieseled and Kim four for my liking, but Kim
four is obviously a hybrid of Kim ninety one with
something very long running. Yeah, I love that one. Diesel
is always my favorite, always my favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
I like the Kim four bro.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
I like the Kim four. I liked it would Yeah,
I think you would. I think you'd like it a lot.
It was I think people forget people forget that how
much it was passed around as a clone, and there
wasn't really fakes of it going around back in the day.
It was in every collective everywhere out here, and it
was the real deal. So people kind of, you know,

(01:28:52):
got tired of Kim four real fast, and they were
always chasing Kim ninety one or Kim d. But I
liked the high of Kim four.

Speaker 5 (01:28:58):
Those are well him. The can Ford cut still exists, obviously,
is there s ones up? I can't remember.

Speaker 3 (01:29:05):
I think yes, I did him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Yeah, I think he's got some.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
I think so. I think so. Matt asked, I'm growing
some right now. I think of the diesel s ones.
Maybe what are the turp surreals? Uh? The turps from diesel?
I mean they're buttery skunk is the best way I
can describe a buttery gassy skunk. Less on gassy, more
on the buttery skunk. Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
God, somebody sent me some diesel s once in a
pickle jar uh, because it smell does like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Pickle, really pickles old as it was the old old.
It was like an eight month old.

Speaker 3 (01:29:46):
Like, yeah, that'll do it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
It's like pickles.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
Man, Dude, I've had I've had weed turned into pickles. Uh,
smell like pickles. Get a little pickley. Yeah. Over time,
it was pretty gross.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
I didn't even know that was a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
The carrots, what's this ship to taste like carrots?

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
That shit's blew my mind. Somebody's talking about that in Discord.

Speaker 3 (01:30:07):
Carrots Hazy stuff can be real carroty. A lot of
ties have a carroty and stuff. Boutiqu Grower asked if
I had Golden Goat, or if you had golden goat,
not from Ivory. I've had it from mister Holsing, had
it from the the guy who made it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:25):
The Golden Goat I thought I had years ago. I
talked him mad about this one time when I first joined.
It wasn't the Golden Goat. I don't think obviously, it's. Uh, well,
what I had was from Colorado and it was smell
like pencil shavings, and Matt you said, it wasn't even
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
No, no, no, for me, it was like a little
bit lemon, a lot cereal, like tricksy cereal type. It
was delicious. Kim three, is it good? Kim three has
been dead a long, long long time. There are no
cuts of Kim d hanging out floating around. Nobody has it.
So I'm trying to say, you have Kim three. Cut
this telling you the Brooklyn Bridge.

Speaker 5 (01:31:01):
Unfortunately, maybe there's Kim fifteen though, Bro, there might be
the Kim fifteen. That's right, that's another level above legendary.
Uh you know, only the true best guys, the breeders
and things, the knowledgeable history.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
Really know about that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
So yeah, we know, yeah, I mean, it's not not
just my take. It's it's CSI's take. And he's the
one who kept the chems alive and the Kim one
through four from what's his name, Joe Brandt, and he
was past it. Other people had KIM three but they
all lost it.

Speaker 7 (01:31:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
The last KIM three came from incognito and it's a
lot like Kim floor and that's nothing like the original
KIM three, which is how we know, yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
we'll ever bring back heirloom Afghani. I could probably pop
some and make more, but to be honest, it just
flew another one that threw flew under the radar. And

(01:31:58):
when her Servannes have KI three, No, but Horace Servanni's
like trying to go to the older crowd to get
stuff like that. They weren't even a part of those circles.
Like they weren't they they were interested in going to
high time shows. They really didn't run their own grows.
They were busy consulting and like showing other people's grows
on videos and telling them how to grow. But they

(01:32:19):
weren't in clone circles. No one was passing Jorge Servante's
Ken three. Shout out to mister Van patten himself.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
But yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, though, motherfucker taught me
how to grow some Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
He taught a lot of people how to grow weed. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah.
I like the green guy though. He was my favorite
because he taught me how to build hydroponic systems and
uh EBB and flow systems. He's a green guy. He
had his face painted green.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
And maybe, actually I think I'm a really old videos.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Yeah, yeah, really old. And he basically taught people how
to make hydroponic systems and no, not gauge s green
but no, definitely not that old part. Yeah, the green guy, God,
I can't remember his name. It probably doctor green Thumb
or something like that, if I remember correctly, but it
wasn't one dude from Canada, and it wasn't the wrapper obviously.

(01:33:23):
But yeah, he was funny. Yeah yeah, and he was
growing like ak. He's popping ak forty seven seeds in it.
I remember that, but yeah, no, it was. It was
a great video and it stands a test at a
time for making hydroponic systems for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:33:36):
Oh yeah, dude, that's cool. Yeah, those videos, man, I
always say we I don't know how that would work
on YouTube, but that'd be cool to either do, uh
just a what do you call those? A react video
type thing or just even in the disco we all
watch them together and just bullshit because some of that
shit's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
You go back and watch.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
Bicycle Mike as if I've ever tried French, she can
always hash.

Speaker 7 (01:33:58):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
But I met Frenchie at an event and I went
up to shake his hand, you know, just like I
do to everyone that I meet, and he looks at
me and goes, who the fuck are you supposed to be?
And I never forgot that that was awesome, But yeah,
it didn't speak to him ever. Again, that was just
it's who he was. I guess I don't did awkward. Yeah,
body has KIM three, so body got it from incognito,

(01:34:20):
and that's what kind I'm talking about. So if it's
the chem three from that range, yeah, I mean me
and me and CSI and Body have sat down at
a party and talked about the whole situation. So it's
not like it's not a backdoor shit talking type thing.
It's just you know, and it's not my opinion. It's
people better than me's opinion, and not just opinion. But

(01:34:40):
they were the ones holding the cuts. So yeah, on
the Kim three, it's just it's how it goes, not
I mean, I've gotten shit wrong, you know, like I've
had I had a fake Irene cut from Cecil and
made seeds with it, and I was like, oh shit,
this is cool. But it wasn't the Irene so but

(01:35:00):
made good shit. So I put it out there, but
I didn't. I had to pull point out that's not
what it was. It was above og type that was
very similar to Irene but missing the mutation. Things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
I mean, yeah, every day, Matt, all the.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
Time, and sometimes you know, it's just as what it is.
You know, you trust people and they give you cuts
and some And for the record, Incognito had some good
cuts and a killer seed collection. I've talked about them
before on the show Killer Cut Seed Collection. You would
expect him to have that. I think Diesel came down
through Incognito in some way, so he had real cut there.

(01:35:34):
But yeah, you know, not everybody gets everything right. Oh no, Tom,
mathematical what Starpoople. Yeah, I first got before Grinspoon was made.
There was a cut called Quays and it was from
Amsterdam and I got sent that by Ed Dalton nine

(01:35:57):
lab seats, and they used that cut and they s
OneD it and someone s ononed it for Barney's farm
and they named it Doctor Grinspoon. Yeah, the original cuts
called quays and those are s ones. Tom, there's a
great great uh shit flat face skateboards. Go look that

(01:36:18):
up on YouTube. You'll get to know all about Mathematical
You'll know, you'll get to know all about him. He
used to run a little fingerboard company and became rich
doing that, and his mom had him start a seed
company to make money like a big boy. He didn't
want to, so that's how that all started out. It
was the great story, great story.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
Hashed that out in a ten minute segment for the Channel.

Speaker 5 (01:36:39):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
I know, how about that shit fingerboarder I eate You know,
not everybody can skateboard like a big boy. Sometimes you
got to use little fingerboards. You know.

Speaker 5 (01:36:50):
My generation that was big tech t X was Yes,
it was yeah, because school really you know, oh staying
kids or stay in school kids, but school for real?

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
No, but yeah, dude, that helped pass the time, that's
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
Yeah. He he did rename a lot of stuff and
got caught masth medical. I think that he has a
whole different seed company named too on top of masth Medical.
But you know, like yeah, even without the the that's
just a funny part. The fingerboard company, that's just a
funny part. But like, yeah, he came into the business

(01:37:27):
and did a lot of not truth telling. Is that
a good way to put it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:30):
Yeah, But don't you dare talk about fingerboard.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Again, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
And he got caught and so you know, I mean,
he was He's really young. He's really really young, and
and maybe that's part of it. Maybe he's different now.
I don't know. He's had he's had some time to
chill out, but I don't know. And you asked about
green Bodie again. What's the nice way to say? I

(01:37:59):
have nothing? My grandma told me that you shouldn't say
anything nice about someone if you have nothing nice to say.

Speaker 5 (01:38:06):
Yeah, just say I have nothing positive to say. And
if you want to know more information, go do some research.

Speaker 3 (01:38:12):
Man. Yeah, Unfortunately about green Bodie, there's no like that's
what people ask about all the time. There's not research
to be done. If if you fall for it, you
fall for it. If you don't, you don't.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
Yeah, we're cleaning you up, Matt, We're gonna work on it.
We're gonna we're gotta get these sponsorships. Man, YouTube ain't
trying to pay you nothing, so we've gotta get some
the money. But you know the millions flowing uh easy, Yeah,
coming through bro for one of us.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
Someone's asked about Ethos. I can comment on that. I can.
I'm not gonna say any of the mean shit. But
he was known for for claiming to have things he
didn't have, and you know, naming strains Jack Harra that
didn't you know, things like that, just stupid shit and
they didn't have anything do with it. And he made
claims like none of his fems would harm but everybody

(01:39:04):
else's dude just made no sense, nonsensical, non scientific claims.
But yeah, I'm not gonna say anything else further about
dog puppy kicking through windows or anything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Hey, guys, there's a thing called Google.

Speaker 3 (01:39:24):
I don't think you can google that stuff. You just
have to fight someone will be blunt.

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
I did find uh a picture, boy, I couldn't find
in the discud to google it of somebody get beat
up in the industry, and there's a couple of pictures
of them I don't, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Oh yeah, the.

Speaker 7 (01:39:45):
Great the last picture, the dude put his fist on
top of his head, took a snapshot of his bleeding
everywhere yet Uh gez, But it wasn't me.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:39:56):
That reminds me of the story. And we'll go into
a deep run the Sunday Show sometime. But when I
was a kid, I saw this big, chubby guy. Let's
just say this, and I swear to say it. This
guy owed him some money and we're summing up quick
chased him down and I swear he kept. He hits
his dude as they're both running. The dude's running from him, right,

(01:40:17):
they're playing basketball. The dude just starts to go to
swing on him as he's running.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
The kid that owes him money, he takes off running
and I swear this looks fake as fuck, but dude
catches him. As they're running. Dude falls on the ground.
He looks up at me and I'm in the car,
like in the parking lot facing him. Because this dude
went up to this basketball game to beat this guy
U because he owed him money, right, huh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
And this kid he looks up at me and uh, dude,
his fucking eyeball was hanging out his ship.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
Dude. Oh he got his eyeball punched out.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
Yes, one hit. I swear it looked like it was nothing.
Dude and his ship was hanging out his ship, and
the dude got sued and everything.

Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
I bet you know. That's that's one of those things
where like you got to be careful, careful with your anger.
I've learned that over time. I am. You know. I
knew someone at the point who hit someone with brass
knuckles and saw their brain come out their head, like
not their brain but just gray mat her And I
was like, oh, that's gross. You know, never did that again.
It was not that person. Never did that again. It

(01:41:17):
was really gross. You have to. But like just hitting someone,
like there's shows on TV about it, like where someone
takes a backstep they hit it like a barking block
and kills them. You know. Yeah, so you gotta be
no violence.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
Stuck each other, suck each other off.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
That's a good way to make friends.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
We et and sucking each other off good, Yeah, they say,
they say.

Speaker 5 (01:41:42):
The three hundred Spartan guys drank each other stuff and
it made them powerful.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
I believe it. Yeah, it does. It makes me strong.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Maybe that's why I'm Campan now.

Speaker 3 (01:41:53):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:41:54):
Yeah, I've took that elixirir of life into me.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
Seeing Cypress Hills working with Barney's that checks out. I mean,
the thing is they do a lot of seed sales.
Like that's the thing. Like new growers don't know how
much of a scam they are, so of course the
biggest companies are going to work with rappers. Rappers don't
know any better. They don't pay attention to shit, They
don't even grow, so why would they.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
So yeah, and disconnect, dude, it.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Is a disconnect. And on the real though, like at
the same time, be Real did have a or was
helping run grows, you know during the og couch days.
He really did do all that stuff. But unless you're
just paying attention to seed stuff, those guys were running clones.
They were paying attention to no seed stuff. They didn't
want no seeds in their growth. You know, why would
he ever know that Barney's Farm. Dairy at Barney's Farm

(01:42:43):
is a ship bag, you know, allegedly, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
Just human nature.

Speaker 5 (01:42:48):
You know, you attach somebody that's popular or interesting or
has some thing to some product and people want it
and it's such a weird thing because but it's just
the nature of everything, dude, that's what people are. Man,
Yeah it is, Dad. I mean you can't it's no,
I don't know. That's we ranted about this in a

(01:43:10):
just all time.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Matt asked was lone star known for any other cuts
than the blue Bonnet? Yes, he His cut of Killer
Queen was probably the most past cut of Killer Queen
around was Airborne Chief thirteen c. Ninety nine. I think
I want to say that's what it was. Maybe I don't.
I don't remember, but yeah, something like that. What's up,

(01:43:31):
dam pro, How are you doing? Brother?

Speaker 5 (01:43:34):
I think, oh yeah, to share a widow, Justo said,
I hate to say I bought a couple packs of
Barney's Triple Chiefe so mohat recently.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
Hey, man, if it works for you, that's all it matters.

Speaker 5 (01:43:46):
But I think the problem comes is when you try
to speaking to other people and you're saying this is this,
and I know it's this, or maybe you know, you
don't know what you really got at that point most
of the time, so you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
Just just enjoy it if that's what you like.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
Man, if you spend the money on it, grow it
and see how that is.

Speaker 5 (01:44:04):
Yeah, across sometimes you can find good ship and why
I've found a couple of good things.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
And what I was before, you know, it's you know,
I just don't know if it's what they say.

Speaker 3 (01:44:15):
It is right exactly. That's that's that's that's a problem.
Like if you really want to take stuff seriously and
you want to use it and crosses and you have
this idea in your head that it it is what
they said it was, and you go on and use that.
Eventually you're gonna find out maybe it wasn't that, and
then you have to do the backwalking and either correct
yourself or pass the buck on and just pass the

(01:44:36):
lie on for them. And nobody wants to do that.
No one wants to do well yeah, yeah, and maybe
you know this better. I think this is an auto
company and I don't have any experience, so I can't comment.
What do you think of Atlantic Seed Cod?

Speaker 5 (01:44:53):
I think they do great, dude, U you know, let's see,
so I'm pretty sure and correct me in the Yeah.
But I think it's ran by all women, which is cool.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:45:03):
I also think that they do a pretty good job.
Maybe not for someone like us or maybe a viewer
of our show. I think they do a pretty good
job tailor entering, like the more modern stuff for you know,
your new growers and stuff like that. They got a
lot of yeah, more modern genetics. I think as far
as like their customer service, it's the best you could

(01:45:25):
probably find. As far as seed banks modern ones that
I know of and have used, I can only speak
on shit that I've went through, but they're probably the
best seed bank that I know of, and I think
as of right now, probably most people are trying to
compete that are in that space are trying to compete
with them.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
So the fact that they're women.

Speaker 5 (01:45:42):
Last time I heard also when stuff, I don't want
to bring up breeders' names, but there was a reader
that's more of a hype breeder recently that got into
some drama with his girlfriend and they were carrying that
breeder and they were like, you know, essentially like hey
this blah blah blah, the way they acted some domestic

(01:46:05):
violence type ship.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
We can't carry them anymore or something, or so.

Speaker 5 (01:46:10):
I mean, they're I think they're great what they do,
but they don't carry shit there you're not gonna find
like an H and L or a park on there,
you know, or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
I think, like what's a great lake Michigan? Or I
was forgeting.

Speaker 5 (01:46:22):
Yeah, yeah, I think so if you want, that's probably
gonna be a if you're looking for a more show
like that or your site, you know, it's really not.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
They're good.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
They do good job, all right. I button ate the
Pineapple Expressed and know if it was Barney's Farms. Okay,
So here's something interesting I can add to that. Most
people know Pineapple Express the movie. Most people don't know's
before the movie came out. There was a company called
Plan B that was lone Star Bog and someone else,
if I remember correctly. I don't want to say his
name because I don't. Yeah, I don't remember exactly and

(01:46:52):
I don't want to even looking at this, but they
made the original strain of Pineapple Express. It was Evil Pineapple,
which was a C. Ninety nine hashplant of some sort,
and I can't remember what the other half of the
cross was. After that, there was a company called G
thirteen Laps from Spain that after the movie many I
think even two or three years after the movie started,

(01:47:13):
their company, and one of the first strains they put
out was called Pineapple Express. Had nothing to do with
the original, didn't credit the original, and now anybody else,
I don't know what the original was from a company
called Plan B and they don't get name checked very
often or the work for it or the credit for it,
not by the movie, not by anyone. But they were
the basis for that name. Cool. Hey, Gampro, are you

(01:47:37):
going to be doing it on Troy's or on yours?
Either way, everybody go give Gampro follow He's got some
great content.

Speaker 5 (01:47:44):
Fellow pothead Lit Farms is one of my more favorite
Colin chuckers. Yeah, I've grown on a few things from them.
I can't really speak on, like, you know, the cuts
and stuff they're using. They're using a lot of modern shit.
But I did grow something out. I forget what the
fuck it was, apples and bananas something. It was actually
fucking great. I can't rely on it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
So, yeah, Brad raw has I like Raw a lot,
like I like those guys. They're really really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:48:12):
So yeah, that means said, I don't know anything about
the guy. I literally got the PA.

Speaker 5 (01:48:15):
Yeah, I'm free shit, So I don't that dude, I
don't know anything about the lip poms.

Speaker 3 (01:48:19):
Yeah, how is that different than the pineapple cs I cell.
So the pineapple the CSI cells is a I wouldn't
even say almost like an heirloom cut that goes around
northern California. Supposedly it's not related to Cinderella ninety nine,
and that's the main difference. Most of the stuff that's
pineapple is a c ninety nine derivative. But there is

(01:48:39):
the pineapple some people call pineapple tie. I don't know
if it's the same exact cut that CSI has. I
don't know if we've ever figured that out. But the
pineapple that he has is a big, chunky, yielding pineapple
smelling plant that's supposedly not related to see any It's cool. Yeah,
so we are. Now we're almost at two hours. So yeah, yeah,

(01:49:03):
oh you're bad.

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
Yeah, anybody got anything else in the chat then we missed?
Maybe I'm sorry, I'm fucking baker. I'm supposed to.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Matt tells me, I'm just one of the type of
show I'm being paid for here, Matt, and I'm not
doing it and keeping up with the questions.

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
Yeah, you know, it's kind of hard sometimes it's it's
really hard, but I'm working on it. Uh yeah, So
after this, everybody go check out. I love we Live.
They're gonna be live after this. Yeah, great show, great
people love those guys and the hosts.

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
Oh yeah when we when we do in that episode
with them.

Speaker 3 (01:49:40):
Fam Yeah, I don't know. You're gonna have to do
some communication, better communication because poor Gampro got to do
it tonight last minute because I think Troy scheduled us
to do it. We had our show.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
That's cool, be done.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
Figure it out. You know, that'll be fun. Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
We're doing some networking. We gotta yeah, I know, you
know there's stuff maybe we're doing newer, like we're trying
to brand out and do.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Some different stuff. You know, we're trying to evolve.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
Yeah, I've never grown the blueberry Sea ninety nine from Seedsman,
I don't have any comment, but yeah, I mean yeah,
I mean see ninety nine was a decent plant. Sly
from Brothers. Graham back in the day made it amazing plant.
It's tood the test of time, fast fast flowering. A
lot of people say it's kind of speedy. I wouldn't

(01:50:29):
call it us at TIVA or anything, but yeah, it's
a nice plant. So I say it would do well
cross the blueberry very well and shout out to Sly
wherever he's at. Yeah he's He's the basis for all
brother Grim's breeding. Most people don't know that because someone
else is taking credit for it. Anyway, let's let's wrap
this up. Everybody go check out I Love Weed Live,

(01:50:52):
You got anything?

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Oh well, just they got the interview, caught up catching
up with Happy.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
There you go Sunday, so I'm looking forward to it.
I love Appy.

Speaker 5 (01:51:03):
People that haven't watched. I got a show I do
on Sunday by myself. Sometimes I have guests on. Sometimes
I'm out of my yard dicking around weeding.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
Sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:51:11):
Well, the plan is, we've been talking about this for
a month or two, is start having some plants and
stuff on it, or the at least another channel. But
we'll see how things go. Everything's figure it out and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
But we're gonna get them up there, guys, I promise
we're coming.

Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
Cops Copstrong, Matt Cops Strong on Bag, sattv.

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Oh support, h and l Pac. All the breeders go
check out the you know Cronzo, go check out the websites.
They got some good gear. Checkout matt stuff. Link Tree,
link Tree, go check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
There, you go link tree, and uh, buy me a
coffee dot com you can, you can donate, you can.
There's stuff. You know what I'm saying, these things to do.
I'll buy me a coffee. Go check it out.

Speaker 5 (01:51:56):
Yeah, we might do a little raft woff. Maybe I'll
do some posing, some uh you know, risk posing and
some new posing for you. And we'll maybe has Bitterer
gets a dick pick.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
Yeah, they might. I think I have some stuff to
put up in the discord this weekend. We got all
kinds of stuff going on and the hats we gotta
do too. So yeah, come check it out if you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:52:19):
What's that any fights?

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
Yes, yes, we have the Ian Gary fighting. It's Ian
Gary fighting Carlos Prachis and he's an up and comer.
It'll be a good fight. And I think there's a
few other people on it, uh Jimmy Flick, who's a
fellow member of the UFC card trading nerd community that
is also happens to be a fighter to cool guy.
There's a few people that are fighting this weekend that there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
Nice we'll be doing some fun stuff in the discord there.
Make sure y'all join. We got Yes, it's five bucks.

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Guys, five ducats Spanish ducats, but.

Speaker 1 (01:52:53):
All right, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
All right, that's it. Thanks, y'all have a good weekend.

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