Finally - Where is Notsodog and Why_ & MORE QNA - Breeders Syndicate 3.0

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:32):
What's up everyone, Welcome to the Syndicate. Chucky is not
with us today. Unfortunately he's dodging tornadoes like Dorothy in Kansas,
so his powers out and yeah, last minute kind of thing,
but it is what it is. I used to do
Solo Cholo's shows all the time, so here we are.
I was looking for different ideas. I had one idea

(01:54):
for the show before the show, just like I really
wanted to cover it. I had it written down. I
had that. I had it written down. Let's see, Oh,
how smokers that aren't rowers determine what strains are being
sold in seed or clone? And you know how it
differs from how it used to be because we used

(02:16):
to be breeders. People make it seeds, used to use
creativity or what they had, and that would be determined
what people were smoking, but with how the legal market
is now, that's not how it goes. So, yeah, it's
kind of a trip and I can cover that, But
I noticed in the Q and A section in our
discord there were still people asking about not so, And

(02:42):
I've covered it on one show before, I didn't put
it in the title, and I still get questions about it.
And there's there's several reasons why I didn't talk about
it when it happened. One, everybody knows my personality. Everybody
was expecting me to blow up, and they wanted to

(03:02):
see me blow up and be a dick, and that
was too close of a friend and too personal of
a situation to really cover properly without one blowing up
or two hurting feelings at the time. Another reason I
it was a situation that would affect several of us

(03:23):
in our crew, So instead of just me deciding to
take it on my own and you know, covering it,
I left the decision up to the crew. And at
the time, everybody was like, dude, it's just going to
be such a mass we don't want to deal with
the headache of that fallout. But it was a group
decision to remove him from the group, So that was

(03:48):
another reason. Also, I'm seeing a lot of PM talk
and DM talk and the reasons that he has for
wires removed, and I'd like to clear that up. And yeah,
and there's people still asking about it in the server
and just don't know because I've never put it in
a title. So here we go, Here we go. Not

(04:12):
so is I'd still consider him a brother because like
when you're that close with someone, even if you don't
talk anymore, it's you still care about them, like a brother.
That's always going to be there, always going to be there,
even if we never speak again, that's going to be there.
And I care about the dude, And that was another
reason I did not want to see him like lose

(04:35):
his whole career over what had happened. He you know,
care about his family, care about his life, things like that.
Simply put, I don't I don't like cells of clones.
I don't like cells of clones anywhere particularly like but

(05:00):
if people are going to do it, they're going to
do it. But in the discord anywhere, it was not
my thing for many reasons. Diseases, knowing how certain people
take care of their rooms and fulfill stuff, but I
knew that, you know, financial situations had been hard, because
like for all of us, they're hard now. It's not

(05:21):
the same as it used to be, right, And there
was a proposal by him to sell clones and of
his sour at the time, and I said, the only
things I'm asking are one, that you make sure you
have them all clean before they go out, too. They
must all be rooted and ready to go, and you know, three,

(05:44):
you have to have them shipped. You cannot sit on it.
They have to be ready to get I mean that
was basically it. You know, just follow through on your shit.
And I didn't ask anything from it. I didn't want
anything to do with it. But that was because I
knew how things had slowly been tumbling. Yet when someone has,

(06:04):
you know, financial situations, and they're your brother, what are
you gonna do? Right, So before they were even rooted,
he started taking money for them, and I wasn't I
wasn't super happy about it, but I'm like, Okay, well,
he's on his own, gonna have to do that. And
I made it clear to everyone that this has nothing

(06:25):
to do with me. He did fulfill some I don't
know at what point. Some were fulfilled, but there were
around fifteen by the end that went a full year
without being sent. And during the last I don't know
six months of that, I kept asking him who needs stuff?

(06:49):
Who will what's their names? We will take care of it.
Just let us know. He wasn't getting answers on it.
He said, no, I'm taking care of it. I'm taking
care of it. Whoever. Okay, these are people in the group.
They need to be taken care of. This represents all

(07:09):
of us doing everything. I'm not going to talk about
prices or any of that. It kept going on and on,
and eventually it got to the point of where people

(07:30):
in the group were starting to speak up. They didn't
they weren't happy it had been a year. So I said, dude,
you know, we got to do something. He wasn't responding,
and then it went out into the server publicly. He
was in there talking politics on another part of the server,

(07:53):
and I was waiting for him to address it, because like,
that's what we do. We take responsibility for stuff and
own it. He refused to. I waited a full day.
He didn't, so then we had a private discussion with him,
and he still refused to take accountability for it. At

(08:19):
that time, we had to survey the room, ask who
needed what, who paid for what, get it? Had it done.
A few guys in the server helped me get that done. Yeah,
that was it, and after that it was a divorce,
a full divorce. You know, some of us still have thrips,

(08:43):
like people are saying in the room, I didn't I
didn't ever get a clone from nat SOO never asked
for one. He offered some, had me kill some saying
you'd give them, took some from me, took many from me.
That's it. I mean, like, I don't know how to
go any deeper than that. Yeah, that's it. I wish

(09:12):
him the best on his future with everything he does.
But it had to be said with the fucking title
because everybody's gonna keep asking about it. I don't want
to go into anything deeper. That went that went on,
any of the other stuff that was going on behind
the scenes, with his other personal interactions that were causing
problems with other people. Yeah, that was that. After a year,

(09:38):
he wouldn't take accountability, and in our group there was
a talking to him. It did not go well and
there was never accountability taken, and it cost us money
in the end to handle those, and so I went
down again. Wish him the best. I wish his family
the best. I wish him awesome, awesome luck and anything

(10:02):
he does with his work in shows, podcasting, whatever he
does with clone sales, I hope it goes better than
it did with us, because that was a fucking nightmare.
But that's as much as I'm gonna cover it again.
I'm not gonna keep being mean about it. I'm not gonna,
you know, I'm there's always gonna be weird feelings about

(10:22):
that left there, and Corey, I see you. You suck
off Rez, Go fuck yourself. Anyway, it's been addressed. That's
what happened. People didn't get their clones, many of them,
and they were very, very expensive. You're not even a

(10:49):
real hacker. What are you doing and just get the anyway,
If you guys have questions, you could put him in there.
I'll try to cover it, but that's the Oh is
this not close to accurate? Let me know. Let me know,
because there were five hundred people in the discord all

(11:10):
watching this go down, so I'd love to hear how
inaccurate this is. Because you weren't even a part of
any inner circles for that, So I don't know what
the fuck you would know about dumb ass, fucking right
wing motherfucker. See, I'm too mean. I'm too mean, but

(11:31):
that's how it goes. You can ask questions if you want.
I'll try to address them, but I'm trying to keep
it brief, brief, brief, And like I said, he's been
telling stuff behind the scenes and dms and building a
narrative for a year. But there were five hundred people
and there's screenshots of everything, because that's how it goes. Yeah. No,

(11:54):
I don't even care if you're right wing, but if
you start using the N word and shit like that,
I'm never gonna like you. That's how it goes, just
who I am. Yeah, I hate covering it. I hate
talking about it because it does make me mad and
I want him to do well, but people are always

(12:15):
going to be stupid, like the dumb ass typing maggot
in the chat. What does it have to do with anything?
What does it have to do with anything? So silly? Okay,
all right now, I'm going to go through the Q
and A, but feel free to type in your questions

(12:36):
if you have to. You can see from everyone typing
in here there are many people who purchased those clones
and got russets, grips all that shit. I didn't even
want to talk about that part of it, but it
is a real part of what happened. It was a
bad time, and when times are hard, people don't always

(12:58):
act like they normally would. And I hope that was stupid,
you know. I hope that was a stupid move that
wouldn't have normally happened. But that's how it goes, all right.
So one of the first questions was what is ghost
train Haze? And this kind of surprised me because it's

(13:21):
not that old for their mean to have to tell
the story on ghost train Hayes. It was from rare daintness.
I don't know what they used in it, to be
honest with you, because I didn't really care, but that's
that's who made it. You could probably still get the
seeds of it. You could find it, and I'm and

(13:45):
for the people that like you could probably see in
my face how personal all this was to me and
how much I don't like talking about it, but it
did need to be addressed. I felt like I should
address it much earlier, but because other people were involved
in it, I left my own feelings out of it,
really try to and for his sake, but got to

(14:07):
do what you gotta do sometimes. And I hope the
people that ended up getting the clones in the end
were happy with what they got. I think the people
liked his sour cut, which is great, you know, because
I'd never run his sour cut. Yeah. Uh, type your

(14:29):
email address in here, basking chronic so that I can
search for your emails. My email address is like a
houseag fucking fire too. A whole bunch of numbers. Does
single nug pollen chucks effect quality of the rest of
the plant. So this is the a QM andation from

(14:50):
the discord. Really easy to get in the discord and
ask your questions anytime. If it's like a single tiny
little plant and you've only got a few nugs, then yes,
of course it'll affect the quality. If it's a single
nug on a big plant, it'll have much less of
an effect on the quality of the plant. Making seeds
is what the plants want to do as a whole,

(15:14):
so quality will be affected. That's where they're always going
to put all their energy to but depending on how
big it is, how wide, how tall, how big of
a root zone you have, that's gonna determine how much
it affects the quality of your plant. All right, what
do we got here? I don't even have the discord

(15:38):
up some of these. I wrote half a question, be ruthless,
ask what is the chem and OG relation? If any undetermined?
In my opinion, this is opinion. Kem ninety one and
OG are often compared because it's the stretchest of the ogs,

(16:00):
a really burnt tennis rubber ball nose. To me, O
G doesn't It was very soapy, could be kind of sweet.
Sometimes they have similar structures, but I don't necessarily see
a direct relation like this one is from that one
as a S one, or this is direct hybrid of
that one. I don't really see that. But that's just

(16:23):
my opinion. There's no proof on that anywhere, so take
it for what it is. Axel Grow twenty one asked
why reverse males? I think at first it would have
been a novelty for the first guys reversing males and
learning how to do it. You don't use sts, spray

(16:43):
or anything like that to do it.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
You use.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Well oh my god, you need ethylene liquid ethylene to
do it, so at the fond florrel things like that
will reverse males later on. Like the few of us
were trying to do it just to see what the
expression of the male's oils in the plant work, so
we could see that later on down the line when
we pop progeny from that mail, so we could see

(17:13):
is it passing on certain traits. I don't know how
accurate it would have been, but yeah, it wasn't. It
wasn't like a really big project for anyone that I
know of. I know, uh who was it?

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Chabbudd has a lot of experience doing it. I know Kaimera,
did I know Sam the Skunk Band did. Yeah. I
didn't put a lot of a lot of work into
that because I didn't see a lot of reason for
seed making. And it's really hard to tell. Even though
a male may express those traits, it doesn't mean he's
going to pass any of them on to the progeny.
So it was a lot of time spent in space,

(17:51):
spent on whatever. You know. P K asked tips tricks,
best practices for ship snips. I guess this can bump
off of what I was talking about earlier. If you're
going to be receiving snips, and I'll leave it at

(18:12):
that word so it'll get flag printing. You want to
have a quarantine zone far away from your mother room.
Many reasons to do that. I shouldn't have to tell
any of you that have done it. If you're new
to it, Always have a quarantine space. You never know
what's coming in on those bugs or or what bugs

(18:32):
are coming out on those plants. You also don't know if,
like let's say, powdery mildew was in that room, but
it wasn't the right environment for it to start flowing,
floating around and showing itself. When it's sealed up in
a one hundred percent humidity clone container, clone shipper, it'll

(18:55):
pop out, and it'll pop out in your house and
you'll really regret it. So of these rooms do have
that issue. What else can I talk about with that?
Tips and tricks other than the best practices are quarantine, quarantine, quarantine,
And now in today's day and age, with shipping snips,

(19:17):
there's way more, way more diseases then just even hops latent.
There's the cannabis cryptic virus that we briefly touched on
because there's not a lot known about it. There's the
hemp streak virus, there's beat root, curly top, there's all
kinds of stuff. So I don't I can never recommend

(19:40):
even being an early clone horm myself. And I feel
like it's kind of hypocritical to have run a bunch
of these old cuts and kept them forever and tell people, oh,
you don't need to do that. You don't need to
do that, because I get the want of the experience
to work with those to see what they hold those

(20:00):
specific clones. You want to see what everybody else is
experiencing or what they might be experiencing, because in the end,
a lot of these clones are so plastic that their
expressions very heavy. So from room to room they will
they will very heavy. Yeah, I get that. I get
the want to do that and the need to do

(20:22):
that and the need for that experience. So I'll never
say it like it's an absolute no. But it's a
different time and there's so many diseases and they're so rampant,
and they can destroy your room forever forever if you're
trying to keep moms, and it's very expensive process for
tissue culture. Yeah, tricks. I mean I was very traditional.

(20:47):
I like clone x clone domes for doing that. They
need to be hardened off a lot of times when
they get shipped, they're in one hundred percent humidity, so
they need to be hardened off. Again, don't, don't, don't
just like stick them in a aerow cloner necessarily unless
the humidity around that area is really high. I like
domes for that reason, so they go through that humidity

(21:07):
and step it out slowly remove the dome like you would.
But again, I don't know how people do their cloning.
Like I've always been very traditional with it because I
sucked with aerow cloners. But I really recommend clone domes
for that. That's a good practice. What else re sniffing
the stems so that they can intake water. Sometimes they

(21:29):
get too hardened off at the bottom of the mail
and don't intake water very well. What else would I do?
Scope the fuck out of them. But like I said,
some of this stuff is so microscopic you're not going
to have any clue anyways. So that's the best practices
for snips receiving them. I'm always really hesitant to talk

(21:52):
about shipping them because there are really good tips for it.
I'd like to show you guys how to do it,
but because it's not federally legal the male, it's kind
of iffy. But I could show you how guys how
to transport them similarly in a box in your car
when you drive from point A to point Z. I

(22:12):
think that would be cool. Yeah, so that's covered. I've
been getting a lot of questions about what I'm gonna
finally be working on next, and I finally decided what
to do. I'm gonna be doing more of the Bubbleberry
V two fems, but I think I'm gonna work some
blueberry in cross into another generation because I didn't really

(22:35):
like all the flavors that I was seeing. I wanted
to see more blueberry flavor passing through or pink bubble
gum flavor pop through. But the pink bubble gum or
the Indiana bubblegum clone isn't a great flavored clone. It
doesn't pass on great flavors. It smells amazing, it looks amazing,
it's decent smoke, but the flavor really sucks with that plant.

(22:58):
So I want to inject more fla flavor into it.
So it'll be like reversing the Blueberry and cross making
s ones of that while also making hybrids of the
bubble Berry V two. I'm not sure what else I'm
gonna add in there yet. Well, we're gonna find out.
I'd like to do the blue in cross p. Ninety
one some other things, but we'll see. We'll see how

(23:19):
it lines up time wise. We'll see if the reversal
even is effective. Because I don't like to count my
chicken before they hatch, because I've failed so many times
at that blue store online. I think that would be
interesting to see, just because of all the wild turps
in that cut and how ugly it is. I want
to make it prettier because that's an ugly cut, not
gonna lie as an ugly cut. Dijon asked about CSI's collective.

(23:49):
I haven't had any conversations for a long time with
them about it. He's been busy doing other things. But
in a recent conversation, it's full steam ahead right now,
full steam head with multiple locations, it sounds like, so
it's good news. I really think that that's what the
world needs, is someone likes CSI who not only has

(24:12):
the actual cuts, he says he does is the most
anal person I know about taking care of said cuts,
about growing about the history. He's the best at doing
what any of us love to do. He really is.
I always put him above me in that because his
place is there. So being able to get bud of

(24:37):
these clones from a decent source who knows how to
grow them and who has the correct clones is that's
a game changer for the whole community. So yeah, I'm
stoked on that and I'm really looking forward to that.
I'm trying to read the questions and do stuff while
I'm doing this, but I'm not very effective at it.

(24:57):
Work a resurrection, o Oh, I should pop some resurrections,
shouldn't I? I should? I should? Yes, Thanks for everyone
who's on Twitch too. Thank you guys for still so
with the Patreon going down, we've kind of like slowed
down on pushing everyone to Twitch, which was the main push.
But we still need everyone to switch to Twitch because

(25:19):
this is on YouTube, and YouTube is YouTube, and I
can't say any more than that because it's YouTube. So yeah,
I think what we love and what we love talking
about is more conducive on Twitch. See. Oh yeah, I
was going to talk about how smokers that aren't growers
determine what strains are being sold in seat and clones

(25:43):
and how that kind of happened or how I noticed
it happened. Like I said, early on, all of us
were pretty much I know, at least me and my
friends and the people I was interacting with weren't looking
at what was selling in the market and being like, ooh,
I'm gonna jump on that. We were trying to what
the next big thing was going to be at all times,
and to do that you have to bring uniqueness, at

(26:06):
least at that time. You wanted to bring uniqueness. You
wanted to bring flavor, You wanted to bring good potency.
Good smoke had to look a certain way. But it
wasn't all purple, frosty, dense nugs at the time. It
could look many different ways because people would smoke whatever.
It wasn't everywhere at the time. As as collectives started

(26:27):
booming and realistically OG kind of pushed a big drop
of other clones and people to just started wanting to
grow just og because that was in demand, and I
saw a lot of seed lines start going just OG.
I even participated in some of that because you have
to have a financially viable seed company, you have to

(26:49):
have been working og at the time. But cookies is
when I saw the real demise of all that. And
I know I endlessly rant about cookies, but it is
what it is, right Like, that's why the market is cookies,
shrub cookies, gelato cookies, you know, like Runts cookies, gidtles,
kind of cookies. I don't know. I still think that's

(27:11):
a lot more something else, but it has cookies stuff
in it, cherry pie cookies. You know, like everything is
one thing now, no matter what the name is. And
if you aren't doing that, collectives aren't buying your weed.
The people who are growing for collectives aren't buying your seeds.
That's that because there is no uniqueness. It's the people

(27:33):
that are smoking that don't even understand what they're smoking
determining what we are putting into seeds and trying to
work around that as a seed company and be unique.
Isn't this market anymore? It's a really tough decision. You
have to have a really good financial backup to be

(27:56):
able to be unique, but even then you still have
to have cooks and your ship at some point, you know,
and cookies took over the market so much that the
real OG cuts are very hard to find. They are
very scarce. Even if people think they have them, they
really don't. Most of them don't. Yeah, I know if
you guys are still do though, Yeah, I still love

(28:20):
O G two. And that was the other thing. O
G had this so much better high than cookies for me.
I'll say that because I know there are people like
they're gelatto and cookies and I don't. Yeah, it ain't
my thing, it ain't my bag, but yeah, I get it.
But og it kind of covered all the bases. But yeah,
that's that's when I saw the market change was cookies

(28:42):
and it completely flipped how seeds were made, and it's
completely changed it. I think, I hope not for good,
but I don't see much change. I see the I
see the world getting stupider and less of an interest
in in deep things, truly deep diving things. I mean,

(29:03):
if you go to you know, AI and ask them
who made what, you're gonna get some stupid fucking answers.
So yeah, I wanted to touch on that though. I
had seen some pictures this week and I was thinking
about it. And I was like, man, I really need
to touch on that because it it is. It is
a very important topic, and I probably should cover it

(29:25):
deeper with some other people. I planned on having other
people to talk with, but uh, you know, my my
single opinion only lasts so long and is only so interesting.
Let's see what else I got. Keep dropping in some
questions and now I can finally read them. Now it
was slowing down. I think I got everything from here.

(29:48):
The whire reverse males Kim Noog relation steak Box asked
a question about getting banana bunches in reversals as opposed
to what I don't know what he was expecting, because
I do think a lot of people think they're gonna
get male type flowers that they see on males, more
sparse pollen throwing hanging type balls on reversals. But that's

(30:13):
not really what you see. You see a lot of bananas.
You see bunched up clusters of male parts. They cluster
like they would on a female. Because you're reversing a
female that grows like a female. It's a much different look.
It's not a total it's I shouldn't say it's not
a total failure. If you're seeing bananas, because the failure

(30:33):
is only in if it drops pollen or not if
the pollen's viable. But that is what you want to see,
is clustered male parts on a female flower. So I
wanted to hit that one too.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
See see what you've got.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Let's see, Buckshot, how did the you're talking about the
early pearl you sent? That stuff was way more skunky, dude,
That stuff was way more skunky than the early pearl
in San Diego. That the early pearl in San Diego
was still sweet. That stuff was skunky, you had. I was.
I was very shocked with how skunky it was. And
the main difference that I saw too was like it

(31:22):
wasn't it. It was skunky, but not skunky in the
same way diesel is. And it wasn't skunky to the
taste like diesel was, but it was very good smoke.
So yeah, I thought that was really really interesting, and
I think a lot of people would be very interested
to get their hands on a clone that has that
scent too. We're gonna get old Sag sub robs H

(31:43):
and l S s H and the blue fans oh
remaking Blue dream Huh. That would be interesting and I
need to get Old sog on here. We've been talking
about it forever and I'd love to get him on here. Yeah. Now,
I hadn't even thought about that remaking Blue Dream. I

(32:04):
don't know how that'll go. I mean, super silver hayes
can express a bunch of different ways, but it usually
for me, I tend to generalize a lot, So for me,
I've seen a lot of them be grouped in a
certain smell category. Not always, but I would have to
select something like that to remake what is blue Dream?

(32:26):
I think the blues are dominant enough to be able
to create that again, but I don't know. I don't know.
I didn't do a lot of super silver haze breeding,
so I'm not sure how that would actually end up breeding.
I'd have to ask Hyan Lanson what he thinks. Did
I die in my pubes? Read too? Are you asking
if the drapes matched the curtains? Is that what you're asking?

(32:49):
He did? I come bear? Brother? I come Bear? Got
a trop Blue Dream going? That's awesome?

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
What happened to thunder Fudge? He's still around? Fudge is
still around. He's just he's always a busy worker. I
haven't talked to him much lately, but yeah, he's still
always gonna be a good friend. Awesome dude. Wasn't s
s H heavy and nice chirps? Not to me? No,
it's heavy and mercy. It's a very specific scent, and

(33:25):
I've never like floral, slightly sweet, slightly herbaceous like that.
It's It's one of the hardest things for me to describe.
But there may have been any stuff in S. S
H as well, but I never ran into it myself.
I've seen a lot of different SSH clones. The one
old Zog has to me was more skunk oney than anything,

(33:50):
but it has more narrow leaves than skunk one tend
to tend to show. But yeah, it it was very
skunk oney in expression with super silver haze. I've seen
like more lemony super silver hazes, but still has that
floral weird thing in the background. Yeah, miss all the

(34:10):
strain history, you plan on doing more of them after, Like,
I don't even know, I have no idea how long
I've been doing this anymore. I don't even I don't know.
I don't know how if it's been eight years, nine years,
six years, three years, two years. But I felt like
I covered most of everything string history related I possibly

(34:33):
could in the early Instagram shows, and not all those
were recorded, but I did upload a bunch of them.
I felt like the shows for a certain era specifically,
all that was done was talked about Neville and his
work on a broken record, and only a very narrow

(34:55):
bit that was talked about a mister Nice on twenty ten.
Strain history is great to talk about. It's my favorite
thing to talk about, but there's only so many people
I can do that with that are trustworthy enough that
I trust enough to bring on this show to cover

(35:16):
specific strains history, and there's very few that are going
to know multitudes of strains. And most of those dudes
have busy lives, families. I don't give a shit about this.
They got things to do, you know, Like, Yeah, I
love governing strain history. It's my favorite thing to do.
I wish there was more people that were worthy of

(35:36):
being interviewed. And I mean people might get mad that
I say that, but I would give a fuck because
it's the truth. Let see what we got heard anything
about Sunshine States seventy nine and eighty one Skunk release
being that, I have no idea who that is, to
be honest, Donnie, seventy nine and eighty one skunk release,

(36:00):
unless they got those directly from Sam, or like Kai Mirror,
someone who had access to Sam and he had this dashed.
I seriously doubt it. But maybe, you know, maybe they are.
I have no idea who they are. Anything's possible. I
don't know why everybody would want the same skunk one

(36:21):
that's been around since day one, and it's always been
the same because they were always done at large, open pollen,
open pollinations. It wasn't like they were heavily selected for anything,
and they Yeah, never was my cup of tea. So
I'm a little down on the old skunk one, but
mostly too because it wasn't skunky. Not to me, it

(36:42):
was never skunky. It was sweet, it was crapy, it
was slightly citrus, it's cardboard, lots of cardboard in there,
But skunky really wasn't to be found. So yeah, since
you start af you Pete, that sounds delicious. Since you

(37:02):
star afy Peach, I must have missed something. Any plans
to update the codex, Yeah, dude, with everything going on,
I wish I could do a whole lot more than's
being done. But there's been a lot of chaos lately
with trying to keep the show going, trying to keep yeah,

(37:23):
trying to keep the show going, getting demonetized on YouTube,
getting banned on YouTube several times, constant getting reported everywhere.
You know, Yeah, it does deserve more attention, but the
main purpose of the codex wasn't to add every strain in.
It was to add the baselines in and have what

(37:49):
strains that are in all the other strains by baselines,
that's what I mean, the most important strains, which is
why I left my own strains out too, because I
don't I don't really consider that baseline work. So it
has that there, but there's a lot more I still
need to add even for that. So yeah, definitely have

(38:10):
more work to do. But God, and the only reason
that the people in the group can't really help is
because of how the syntax goes and how I type
in the mails. Because the set is a variable in
the programming, it has to be done in such a
certain way so it matches up and the mapping, and yeah,
I made it kind of hard for people to pick
up the syntax. Okay, surfer boy, what sourd cut did

(38:35):
you use in the diesel cross with CSI, so that
CSI's sour cut that he had for a long time.
It was a cut he got back from a homie
at one point, and I need to bring him on
so he can tell the story of his sour where
he was before, where he ended up.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
Yeah, let's see what we got.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I'm going through the old questions just in case I
can see some thing. Yeah, asking chronic, I need to
get back to you so that we can get you
checked out. When am I stalking Miss Jill's agent Orange.
I love Jill. Jill's always going to be a dear friend.

(39:35):
But with all the political stuff going on, some conversations
are even normal conversations are hard to have with people.
She's always gonna be a friend. She wasn't happy that
I wasn't getting a lot of seed sells, because I mean,
it just is what it is, and it's not necessarily
her fault. It's just people don't really come to me

(39:57):
for a bunch of that stuff. But I wanted to
have it there so that there was some kind of
something for her. Yeah, So I don't know. I can't
honestly answer that, but I haven't talked to her in
a while. Wish are the best. She is a rag
human being working to the line on what's happening. And
any powdery, mildy resistant strains that are good for outside growing.

(40:20):
For tropical yes, yes, yes, strawberry cream. The Swiss rdber
stuff is built for that kind of climate. A lot
of the b C stuff like from Next Generation seeds
works well in that climate. I can't. I mean all

(40:40):
that stuff highly recommended for for PM mold mold resistance,
stuff like that, I which you need to be growing
in those kind of climates. Uh right, beans to Australia. Yes,
we're in Australia. Girt By seeds. He has some of
our stuff. I need to get him some more. But yeah,

(41:02):
like I said, with all the chaos going on, it's
been it's been wild man, it's been a wild Someone asked, Uh,
Jody asked, how do you apply the florel? Q tips
is a good way to do it because sprang florel
on the leaves will burn the shit out of them
way more than sts or anything else. So I highly
recommend Q tips or a small applicator like direct application.

(41:28):
Let's see what else we got. I cover everything. We're
gonna have a chat in the discord after this, So
Screwstian's gonna run the chat after this. I'll be there
for a bit mention you sees I give yes, you know,

(41:50):
like I am so stoked about like I talked about
it a few minutes ago, but I'm so stoked that
he's getting his collectives up. That is, I'm so glad,
Like I didn't want to even ask him about it
when he wasn't talking about it much and he's focused
on a lot of other stuff, but he is fully
dialed in on it and gonna get it done, hopefully
by the end of the year, so you'll have a
reason to travel out to northern California. And I'll leave

(42:12):
it at that for now. Here in small town Tennessee,
people still think cookies is new shit. And that's the thing.
There's always new people coming into smoking, right so there's
constantly people that show up and what's there for them
right then is the new new or they think the
opposite and think it's the old old and has always existed.

(42:36):
But yeah, let's see what do we uh Denali for president? Hell? Denali?
H how did you compare it? Okay, we got I'm
catching up. Now I'm catching up, y'all.

Speaker 5 (42:53):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Kyle asked if you saw bananas before the balls, would
that be a failure. Let's try that happen, so pulled
just in case. Not necessarily. No, sometimes it's good to
have some bananas helping out in there because sometimes the
balls will stay so clumped up you're hoping that the
bananas have enough pollen on them to cover. I remember
when I first started doing reversals. I don't know what

(43:15):
I was thinking, because I knew that that was stupid.
I think it was more of a space issue at
the time, but I don't really remember why it had
to have been it. But I was reversing the plant
and timing it to pollinate itself. So what I do
is let it go into flour just a little bit,
build up some pistols, and then then spray and then

(43:36):
let the mail parts come pollinate those before they die off,
and it would pollinate itself. But it was a really,
really poor way of doing it, all the energy going
into the reversal and then trying to make seeds with
it as well. It was not brilliant, not brilliant, but yeah,
it did work. It did work, and I would see
a lot of bananas that way, and they would do
their thing. Okay, catching back up? All right? Oh and

(44:01):
maybe I'm not catching back up. I remember the sense
you have a really good formation, but I wasn't a
fan of the church. So there's a few different Sensy
Stars that people are familiar with. There's the Delta nine
Lab Sensi Star that's often referred to as the ninety
five Sensi Star. He was good friends with Luke from
Paradise Seeds. Luke gave him the early pre production seeds

(44:24):
of it that were still regular and they were high
in terpinealing. But there was a beautiful bubble gum terpenoline
one in there that had the flavor, had the scent
of pink bubble gum and terpeneling with it. And then
there's like the spicy super Afghani Sensi Star that a
lot of people were used to in the feminized version,

(44:44):
the spicier Sensi Star also. I mean that's where like
super super potent fire was. So you see a lot
of that in the Death Star. See what else did
I see? Peach question? No, where's Peach's question? You see?
Can you highlight that for me, babe, if you see it,

(45:07):
if you see it, I just saw some old empty
packs of Bloodberry and loved O Gene. Oh my god. Yeah,
so that was some of the stuff that I did
with Skunko, who was a good friend. I missed that guy.
I don't know what's up with him. Hopefully he's doing
rad That was a long time ago. Oh there you go, Matt.

(45:30):
You gave the ninety five cent star x AF what's
the AF is the heirloom afy or the CBD afy.
That's a good question. That's a good question. Hold let
me think on that. What would have been in the
room during that That would have just been the air
the airlyom maf ganny mail wouldn't be a reversal. It

(45:51):
would be the airlom maff ganny mail onto the ninety
five cents you star. That would have been would have
been going on at the time. Yeah, probably old and
I don't know how they're going to pop, but I
hope so. I know that it had the really sweet
bubblegum flavor in it. So that's one thing I would
have thought of seeing that as the best waffles come

(46:15):
by coffee and find out that I have blue waffles
obviously because of the blueberry any chance of Strawberry switch
Blade coming back now, dude, you know, I wish I
would have kept more of the strawberry switch Blade. I
sold the last of all that strawberry stock to my
buddy Monkey and gave a bunch to Bitter too, and
it was just not popping right. I still have some left,

(46:38):
but I don't think a lot of it's gonna pop.
I didn't, I must. I don't know why. Just the
strawberry stuff didn't store right. If it was like a
bad spot in the fridge, but it died out so fast,
and yeah, hmm, rest in peace. That shit was kind
of perfect. But Bitter is doing some awesome, awesome strawberry

(47:00):
work himself. So yeah, you see Seattle Greggs in the
Breeder Battle. Oh my god, Oh my god, God bless everyone.
The Battle of the Breeders with Craig. I mean, I
can tell some stories now, but there's no point in that.

(47:21):
That guy needs to have his legacy and I'm not
gonna touch it. I'm not gonna touch it, no point.
This star is awesome. That star is an awesome cut.

(47:44):
That's how he do. Let's see listen, God, oh my god. Yeah,
Bitter is the man and a bunch of in the
current Patreon stuff that's going out. When I say Patreon,
the shutdown Patreon, the curse stuff going out is gonna
have some bidders work in it too. I'm really stoked

(48:07):
to be able to show people a lot of the
I think he did the Strawberry cough blue in Cross
I think that's what it was. Yeah, so I'm stoked
to see that. I'm very stroked to that myself. I'm
glad you're not dead in the Tornado, Buddy Mischief. Let's

(48:28):
see do some stranger for Strawberry. Yes, yes, I'll let
that guy work it for a few years because he
made He made the P ninety one even better than
it was, so I prefer to see his work with it.
Why do so many people in the scene who seem
to love each other before become enemies like Gabby and
skunk Ba Is it all money? I can't comment on

(48:48):
why those two are at each other right now. I've
liked both of them, and you know, I Skunk Behaved
really doesn't like me, but I cciated skunk VA's bluntness
a lot. And the fallout was over a situation he
had with Naso and I was kind of in the

(49:10):
middle and I agreed with skunk Va on why he
was pissed, tried to make it better, didn't happen. I
don't know, man, It's just, you know, it's different perspectives
on a lot of things. I hope they get it
figured out too. I mean, it sucks for people to
hate each other, you know, I still have. Like I

(49:31):
said in the beginning of the show, I have a
hard time even talking about the Nazo stuff still, and
I don't like it. I really don't, but it is
what it is. When it comes to seed storage, does
anyone have any experience storing in a mini fridge or
wine fridge compared to full sized fridge. Yes. And one
of the worst things ever happened to me was have
a mini fridge die. It turned into like a mini oven.

(49:55):
So be very very careful with them because some of
the the cheaper ones can kill your seeds pretty fast
or like turn into water. And just if you don't
have them in like nice zip lock freezer bags and
then in plastic storage tots in there, Yeah, it could
be a nightmare. But that could happen in any fridge too.
It could really happen in any fridge, So I just yeah,

(50:17):
make sure you're using a good fridge, no matter, no
matter many are big. That's the point of that. I've
just seeing other peoples grows the blueberry and cross. How
do you feel about the direction you took? Anything you
would improve or on or take away? Knowing how I
had to the directions it had to go, I don't
think i'd change anything. I wish it wasn't so short

(50:39):
and stocky, because I think that's been the only complaint
is that people aren't that aren't like comfortable with or
used to growing Afghani type plants like real broad leaf
short squat plants were It just threw them sideways, especially
if they were used to growing cookie stuff. But no,
I wouldn't change anything because it's part of the how
the trades breed and to get the best true blueberry,

(50:59):
that's what you had to do. So no, I don't
I don't think I would have changed anything. I would
change knowing what the factor was, what the outcross was
during the Lone Star's handling of it, I think it
was probably I would love to know that part. But not.
It wouldn't be as a breeding change. It would be

(51:22):
more just knowing more about it and still not being
able to tell it's something like Bubba, but it's definitely
I don't think it's Bubba. And you're probably from CSI
that you're excited about. Oh, so we're going to work
on an auto line together, and so far it's not
gone well a lot of the lines that we chose

(51:43):
to do, and it's kind of my fault, kind of
my fault that I used lines and sent to send
them to him, because we're going to try to select
brand new stuff from fair not feral, but land race
auto traits to use and work into modern line, so
we're not using like lowrider like everybody else does. And

(52:07):
they ended up not being auto flowering. They're called semi auto,
and I guess that meant a short flowering or early flowering,
quick to flower like quick triggering is how I would
have probably wor did it. But I saw semi auto,
so I thought, Okay, some of the populations as auto,
some isn't, so it'll be easy to select the autos.

(52:27):
And that's kind of where we went. And that's not
what it was. I don't have a credit card, so
I can't sign up for my affee. Can I support
in any way to keep the discord access? We'll figure out.
Just talk to us in there. It's a good time
to talk to us while there's a hiatus, Like not
everything is about money with that there. Like the reason

(52:49):
there's there was ever a five dollars thing on it
was to keep out trolls, and it did a semi
good job. Like there's been a few dickheads.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
But yeah, let's see, Yeah, where's Handsome Dan?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Why is Handsome Dan not on the show? We miss
Handsome Dan? Ooh, A thermis in the fridge is smart?
Thermos is smart? What happened to blue Blood Genetics? I
never knew him. I know packwork was some of the
blue Blood stuff and it was really really good, but yeah,
I never knew him. Auto Project Rest in Peace. No,

(53:35):
we'll still work on it, but yeah, we gotta gotta regroup. Yeah,
the whole semi auto thing threw me off. Yeah, so
if you're ever on quick seeds or real seed code,
definitely if you see semi auto flower, don't assume that
means any kind of auto flower. Uh. Fast triggering, early

(53:59):
triggering is the nature fast flowering, like, yeah, I don't
what do we want to call it? Like, yeah, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Also, I watched a really funny episode today. I don't
give a fuck who doesn't like it because it's a
hell of funny of of what's his name, Maton, even
with Matt Gates, And don't assume that just because Gates
isn't it, it's gonna go any specific direction. It was
super fucking hilarious. I wasn't super familiar with that Maton kid,

(54:34):
like I'd seen him in other stuff and I just
remembered he had a really weird like accent I couldn't
quite decipher, and he would be really aggressive with people
and stuff. But yeah, it was. It was super funny
and it was way worth it. So go watch that
pop two to three seeds of nine different CSI streams
outdoor this year got five bubb gum as one two.
Let's go. You know, I should put down some of

(54:54):
the Bubblegum Durban. I want to see if that recreates
something like the ninety five centsy Star but more just
better version of it. Uh, yes, yes, this is facts.

(55:15):
Yes on the on the company sec the black Card
fam gonna fly you out and the tornado have that
thing carry you out? Who as he was talking about
a book about jazz and pot in the fifties or
am I confused? Was it you? I don't think so.
Jazz and pot in the fifties. Some of the earliest

(55:38):
books I remember was The Hashish Eater. But that's not
the fifties. That's really early, and I don't know much
about jazz, so it probably wasn't me. Dude. That maton
shit was fucking hilarious. Matt Gates comes in and there's
a like half naked guy. I assume half naked because
you can only see the top half under his chair,

(56:00):
like staring up at his eyeballs. And it took Matt Gates, like,
I don't know, fifteen minutes to figure out that it
was a real man. There popped a bunch of red
menace means to run the greenhouse this year. Let me
know how it goes. That's there's really unique turps in
that that. The flow, the red rose flow was really
really weird. It was really really weird. It was the

(56:20):
hardest plant to grow, but in hybrids it performed amazing.
So most floral strains seemed to be commonly. They descend
from certain tie some Afghan and Paktistani strains. Yeah, Southeast Asian.
There's a lot of floral Afghan. You can find floral Pactistan.
I think you you got nailed it flow super silver

(56:44):
Haze if you want more modern stuff. The GM beating
the law surprise you, Matt, I was kind of sleeping
on JDM, so I have a nice collection of JDM
rookie cards and auto rookies. So no, it did not
surprise me. I expected it, but like, yeah, I don't know,

(57:04):
but I never bet against ballall really because that dude
is tough as fuck. Tough as fuck, so I was
a great fight though. It was a great I probably
watched it three times now. So yeah, see where we are,
how long we've been live our Yeah, if you have
more questions, get him in. If not, you could take

(57:24):
it to the server. I'm telling you talking about that
bullshit with the ex co host. I really don't like it.
I really don't. But yeah, it takes the the energy
out of me having to even mention it. But because
people keep asking, then there's new people coming in every

(57:45):
day that see the old shows. And I've talked about
it many times, and maybe people didn't know what I
was talking about, but I really want to redo a
lot of those shows where incorrect stuff was spoken about.
But I was never able to get a word in
Edgey on my own show, if that makes sense, And
there were a lot of conversations about that as well.
At one point I was just gonna produce it and

(58:06):
just say fuck, it wasn't worth even arguing about or
yeah anyway. So I expect to see a lot of
those topics redone at some point with Me and Chucky,
Me and screw Me and Dan if we get fitter
in there, pack Kyle, all the all the crew, all
the fam, happy even you know. Yeah, let's see what

(58:30):
we got. It might have been dj DJ's from the
era and he seems to be a more jazzy type guy.
Let's see it. Do I have an opinion on bog
and sour Bubble. People say it might not be a
bubble Gum Cross only there's Bubba, there's for sure. At
least I shouldn't say Bubba. There is at least Norton

(58:51):
Light's one or two in that cut, and that's probably
what is what you're seeing in bubba, if not straight
up bubba in that plant, it expresses almost totally bubba.
I've not seen much bubblegum come out of Sour Bubble,
but there's got to be some other parent in it.

(59:12):
Bob was hilarious, like constantly making hash in his underwear.
That was awesome. Me and Bob got into it. And
during a certain era when he was telling everyone he
created og Kush from Sour Bubble, and I was, you know,
I was looking at the trades and I was a
really stubborn asshole kid, So I was like, maybe fucking
you didn't. And we didn't like each other after that,

(59:35):
but then we ran to each other Emerald Cup and
we hugged it out. So yeah, I was glad too.
I wish he was still around. He served a very
good purpose in the seed world. He is a great breeder,
made great shit. Blaw's ego gut in the way. Yeah,
he was talking about how his hands were better than canel.
That was so stupid. I don't know though, but the

(59:55):
way the way GDM was constantly throwing kicks and teeps
and stuff, there was no real way for him to shoot.
He was throwing uppercuts. He was constantly showing his hand,
you know, showing uppercuts, and he was showing showing so many,
so many strikes that I just don't think ballall knew
what to do. It was too hard to shoot, and

(01:00:16):
and JDM hits hard. It looks like so I imagine
he didn't want to keep getting hit like that. You know,
if Breeders Direct a J sawerdy dude, I have no clue.
I don't know what their inventory is. I could tell
you AJ himself is a turkey fucker, but I'm not
gonna comment on Breeders Direct because it's gonna start more

(01:00:36):
shit with skunk Va. No, I no, I don't know.
You guys stop talking over not being able to fill
some clone orders. Uh. Yeah, it was a little more
than that. It was a lot more than that, but
now people after a year, but you know, after a

(01:00:59):
year people filling ripped off and him not fulfilling them. Yes,
resting peace to Jim ak Bog and s yeah man,
rest in peace, Yeah, bushy old grower. But yeah, Sour
Bubbles fucking dank. I mean, Sour Dub's one of my
favorite cuts. So yeah, for sure, I think he's a

(01:01:20):
very important guy that time. Yes, I agree, I agree.
Not so it's like six foot nine so that would
be interesting. But yeah, Lifesaver. Lifesaver was a great one too.

(01:01:40):
His exy colligit fuck though. I'll stand on that till
the day I fuck. No. He's also why me and
Seattle Greg don't talk anymore. That whitey little bitch Lalla
is fighting. Like he saw the memes about him, wrestle
fucking everybody gets the fence. He probably was tired of
hearing about that. I just I really don't think he
could get in on those legs very easy. And Jack,

(01:02:02):
did you see how he just like at one point
he just went and got up like pushed him off
of him. That was insane. When he did get him down,
Jack could just push him off. That was it. You
Needa did null imagine? Oh that would be good. That
would be good. I agree. I want to see that
in person. So the genetics aren't no no it. I've

(01:02:28):
talked about this on a thousand shows and you can
go see it. I'm say the same thing I always say.
The human being is not a legit person. The human
being is not a breeder. The human being being was
never a breeder. He was barely a closet grower. If
you want like little tiny four or five seed pops
that making all the seeds, then yes that is legit.

(01:02:52):
Everyone has always had skunk one. It was never rare,
never missing in all five done from a tiny little
seed pop. If that's what you want, then yes that
is legit. If that is legit to you, that's legit.
But yeah, no, it's not like real selections being done.
It's not someone who's done selection, you know. That's what

(01:03:12):
I mean by and he's just fucking why he did, bitch,
just is what it is. That's what I mean. It's
a hard question to answer it if you're asking if
he's legit, you know what I mean. I'm trying to
be nicer. I am, I promise, I really am trying
so much harder to be nicer for everyone's sake. The
purest indica. So there is a reason, there's a reason.

(01:03:35):
There is a reason we never produced purest indica. Me
and CSI have those seeds. There is a damn good
reason we did not pop those seats. It was never
ever labeled Steve Murvy Afghan N one. It was only
ever labeled for purest Indica all the seeds that we
ever got, the genetics on them changed at some point,

(01:03:58):
at least with the Hawaiian lights and stuff like that.
The stories kept drifting, and I attributed it to age.
Maybe I don't. I don't want to be a dick,
but I don't want to attribute it to like purposefully
telling incorrect shit, you know what I mean. So I'd
rather attribute it to that and just leave it with that. Uh. Curious,

(01:04:25):
how legit any of the crap I bought from Seedsmen
is Seedsmen at one point did have legit shit. I mean,
they're they're Hazel was legit, They're they're Colombian. Hazel's legit. Uh.
They reproduced my cookies and crack at one point and
it looks like it, so it's probably legit. Yeah. Now,

(01:04:49):
the one thing I will say is things can be
fire and not be what we think they are, or
there's so much inconsistency around everything else that we don't
want to touch it and it does it matter at
some point? So yeah, it could be, could be. Maybe
it is. I filled the time preservation maca beans, but

(01:05:10):
I have a love to dress that. Yeah. Yeah, you
know the story we originally got about those seeds, was
that they were from the eighties out of his sister's
praezer I do have. I always keep perceiving. I learned.
I learned after a while you have to keep her

(01:05:31):
septs on everything that you do. And we learned that
they were made three years before we got them, all
of them, and I wondered why they had one hundred
percent germ rates, which is why I kept asking over
and over and over and getting different answers. How are
we getting one hundred percent germ rate on eighty seeds?
I don't care if they were stored in the fridge. Yeah,

(01:05:53):
speaking of seedsmen, does anyone know if despite the life strains,
they sell it legit? Ooh, I don't know. I don't know.
In the current Patreon pack which which isn't available now anymore,
but they're going out. They're also called we're calling it
buying me a Coffee packs. But because of the changeover

(01:06:14):
and the shit with Patreon, there is going to be
a reproduction of Spice of Life Sweet two three in there.
So if you're a part of it, had already been
a part of it, you're gonna get them. So seeatt
Greg made those yes, yes, they were only three years old,
and I don't know if he remade them. I don't
know who remade them, but they were three years old.
That was the last answer I got, was the three

(01:06:36):
years old, and that made sense for the one hundred
percent germ rate, and I was like, okay, so that
really changes from eighties seeds from sisters fridge or freezer,
you know. So yeah, trying to find the SPG cut
would be super hard, but it's in the sweet two
three you can find those expression. To me, it's the

(01:06:59):
closest thing to Skittles, like a It's like a really
mild version of Skittles. I think that I'm positive. I
don't care what anybody says. I'm positive this sweet pink
grapefruit is the reason for the season of Skittles, even
though it's like a cookiees Hybern. You need to show
thousand boozy and heavy. I just talked to thousand the
other day, and there's no way either of them would

(01:07:21):
do a show with Heavy Days or me. So yeah,
I tried. I tried with that shit. I saw what
happened when I I tried. I tried that A thousand
is heavy Days, that's right, He has him. Uh, shout
out Vic Hi, he was an old friend, lud to town.
Oh man, that's so cool. I wish I would have
gotten to fucking interview him. That would have That is

(01:07:43):
something I deeply deeply regret. I think that would have
been one of the more important interviews out there. How
are the NL five un c s I made? They're
really good? They are good and they're worth having. Are
the NL five pure? We? All I can say is
that we reproduce them purely out of the fifty seeds
that we got from what Greg sent us. There are

(01:08:06):
a lot of n all five expressions in them, so
it's got n all five in it. But because of
all the changes around everything, all we can say is
that we faithfully reproduce what we have and leave it
at that. Because I wasn't around for n all five
pure so I don't know. It's one of those things. Yeah.

(01:08:28):
Shout out to Tony Iomi the man the reason that
we even have the sweet two to three in those packs.
You ever run any freeborn selection gear? I've ran a
hybrid of something skunk Tech made crusted of root beer,
Josh Diesel, and something else. I don't know it came
out very root beery. That people hate the way it tastes,

(01:08:50):
to be honest with you, and don't really like it
because it smells good. But that taste is really that's
a very very acquired taste. Other than that, No, I
have not run. Uh mean gen seeds is the sweet tooth?
What Shaw worked or was a block He did blockhead
He did the blockhead work. How one thousand He's good?

(01:09:13):
Is good? We love him. We miss him.

Speaker 7 (01:09:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
They had the blue Bonnys, which is very stony as potent.
I still have a bunch of these seeds in the
freezer too, the blue Bonnos. I have a big bag
of Sweet Tooth three that won't pop. So I'm stoked
to see what stoney Iomi has because my my sweet
Tooth three would not pop and it's a big ass bag.
We got some of the the blue Satellite going. That's

(01:09:42):
what we used in some of the early blue bonnet
stuff too. Originally I was gonna go with only blue Satellite,
and then I was like, well, you know what, I'm
gonna pop the blue bonnets. I'm gonna pop some other
stuff too. We ended up doing across with it. I
think we I think that's one of the ryeberries. I
don't remember which one. Right Bery three, I don't remember

(01:10:02):
what I called it. It's been a while. Tom Hill,
where is Tom you in here? We'd need a Chucky
and Tom show? Does that change the Hawaiian Lights lineage?
We have no fucking clue what those are? He told
hot Rod Todd one thing. He told me three things.

(01:10:24):
He told me it was the back cross to the
original Hawaiian and NL five. Then he said it was
white Widow norm lights five. How that becomes Hawaiian Lights?
I have no clue. Yeah, there's it's It's been a
few different things. I don't remember all of them, but yeah,
I see I still working at call. I'm talking about
NL during some of the podcasts. Maybe I'll take him
for a swim. Definitely, the five was very very well liked.

(01:10:46):
I will say that, Uh, let's see granola funk, Thank
you better? That's what it was. It was, uh root
beard granola funk. Whatever that was. I think it was
a body strain crusted whatever Josh Diesel is, I don't know.
Probably something to snitch karma. I always thought Skittles had

(01:11:07):
a connection SVG. Yeah, me too, And it seemed very
very apparent. Are you excited for Robert Clark on this
week's hash Church. I'm gonna try to be there. I'm
gonna try to be there. I have a lot of
respect for rob as any would run Jamie. If I
could talk about anyone less legito, that would be at
the bottom of the barrel would be James fucking Loud.

(01:11:31):
He's the least liked person by all of us who
have been around forever. There's you know, documentation on him
getting ninety people locked up, paperwork on him getting ninety
people locked up in a conviction the Zanni King. So yeah, no,
highly don't recommend doing anything with that, but that's up

(01:11:52):
to you. If you do is up to you. But
I won't go near any of that shit. Well School
Canada Project just dropped a video about you Old School
can oh Is that the the the fake P ninety
one guy bitter Old School Cannabis Project. I don't know
who that is. I think that is that guy, the

(01:12:12):
guy that got shut down, that kept we had they
kept coming to San Diego and all the San Diego
guys saying he had P ninety one and we had
to keep you coming. I'm sorry, bro, that's not it.
I think that's him old school cannabis project. Oh that
was Breeders. I don't remember what his fucking name was.
Oh it's Blue Sky's Vienna. Cool. Cool, that's shocking. That's shocking.

(01:12:36):
One of the biggest con artists in cannabis dropped the video.
I mean, I'm super super stoked. Banana verry tie. Yeah,
you know what, Like I almost went with the last
of the banana tie and popped th dooze and see
what it did. But I don't know that it has
a place in it. Old school, old school, k that's right.
So this is this is fucking Blue Sky's Vienna. Fucking

(01:12:58):
a k A, fucking what ever fucking named he was
going by originally? Oh the fuck I forgot his first
name when he blew himself up. Wasn't Blue Skuy's Vienna. Yeah,
he's something else, uh straight Fox Gardens. He's a good guy.
I like Stray Fox a lot. Do you think you know?

(01:13:21):
Is he just crazy or something? I mean, the dude
blew himself up, lit himself on fire, Like I dude,
I don't know, I don't know, Like I can't do
anything but laugh at it. You know like I don't
know him, like I don't know him at all from anyone.
So him commenting on me, ever, was always funny, like, uh,

(01:13:41):
he accused me of getting his PayPal tak and I
didn't know who the fuck he was. Him and Farmer
Joe and then they went at each other and started
accusing Lumpa and a bunch of other people of doing it.
That that was my introduction to them. But yeah, it
h priceless. So sure, yes, absolute only hundredercent true. Show

(01:14:02):
you the documentation to Yeah, it's see, this is Freddy.
This is why we had the show. And I sometimes
have to repeat stuff because this is stuff well known
in the scene, very well known, very well known by
everyone who's been around for a long time. But like
it's you have to be a fucking nerd or have

(01:14:23):
been around and been around him and yeah, yeah, let's see.
Uh I have read place getting abody Dad David's a
fuck boymouthy fuck writing old Timer's name. Yeah, that was
That was probably the most profane thing I'd seen him do,
is try to say he had roadchill skunk and that

(01:14:45):
it was old timer once what was it? The ESB
smile And then old timer right before he died, had
to tell him please stop doing that, please stop saying
that it's not what it is, and yeah it was
and he and he was disgusting to him.

Speaker 6 (01:14:59):
So yeah, yeah, yes, it's the British guy talking about Yeah,
he's a fuckhead.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Yeah, yeah, that's him. Yep, yep, yep, Yeah, he's something.
That's awesome of him to drop a video on me though.
That makes me smile. I'm glad he's still thinking about me. Yeah.

(01:15:35):
I have a video up on the page somewhere of
James Loud and Masonic talking trying to convince each other
that geo cashing is the same thing as a genotype.
They couldn't describe what a genotype was, yet they both
call themselves breeders. Like oh fuck, it was so bad.
It was the worst, and it was fairly recent within

(01:15:57):
the past three years. So yeah, there you go, both
of them. God bless you, God bless you, Jesus bless you.
Priece Robin Nirow. What's the story on Uncle Fester's gun?
So I actually went and talked to Uncle Fester himself.

(01:16:17):
I have the I have it signed books from Uncle
Fester from the occasion Uncle Fester was a menthem fetamine author.
He wrote books on methem fettemine manufacturing and LSD manufacturing.
He was well known for doing all that. One thing
he wasn't ever was a grower ever. And I kept
the emails and all the talk between it because that's

(01:16:38):
what I do. But yes, that's the story on it.
It was made up by Blue Sky's Vienna because he's
a fucking idiot and thought Uncle Fester was somehow he
went from methem fetamine manufacturing to growing But yeah, yeah,
Uncle Fester is fucking hilarious, by the way, like he
is a something else I can I would love to
see a conversation between those two. That would be a maze.

(01:17:00):
Uncle Fester talking about bugs coming out of his eyes
and Blue Skuy's Vienna calling everything skunk. Hell yeah, thank you,
thank you. Yeah. Hopefully it was faster than the GMO.
The GMO cut level se COO anyone run them no

(01:17:28):
a hs is legit avoid the triploid lines. Yeah, I don't, Yeah,
I don't know. Didn't Fester and dark Horse have viewed
bec No, that was not the real Uncle Fester. No,
that was that over the dark Horse beans. That was
what's his name, Ethos. That's an uncle Fester, A's Ethos. Yeah.

(01:17:50):
Uncle Fester is like eighty years old. Bro Ethos is
my age. Yeah yeah. I mean there's solid and then
there's like there's good stuff in stuff, and then there's
accurate genetics. And I can't comment because I haven't been there,
but I'm trying to give you guys some hints here.

(01:18:12):
Uncle Fester's books are in the Palade in Press catalog. Yeah,
and you can still buy him from him. You can
still buy him from him if I have his email
address if anybody needs it. Yeah, he's awesome. I was
talking about put partial triploids on a live one day,
so of course I play as a partial triploid. Told
me to buy his book. Oh fuck yeah, yeah, that's
what I'm talking about. It's crazy. Okay, how far are we?

(01:18:37):
One hour? Eighteen minutes? I made it this long without
fucking having too much of a breakdown. You guys tried.
Love the dri logo. I love when you come in.
It always makes me happy to see it. I hope
everybody sees fucking Charles Bronch shirt. So East goes thrash. Baby.
What's the current consensus on HLVD being passed through seeds.

(01:19:00):
The only the only studies on it have been through hops,
I believe, not even he but hops, and there was
a somewhat of a transmission rate. We know that there
is past HLVD, that the cannabis cryptic virus does pass
through seed and the clone mother that is used to

(01:19:20):
produce the seeds that is affected by it and infected
by it. Originally, you won't see it in the mom
so you'll only see it in seeds. It's wild youth
attach fuck the world, that's right. Yeah. So with that said,
thank you everyone for coming out. Hopefully I have it anyway,

(01:19:44):
deftunting into the what is that the diesel bonnet lines,
I seem we could pull out some more blue leaning stuff.
There's some blue leaning stuff in there, but there's a
lot of just straight up sour diesel in there too.
And there's a few more packs, but yeah, I should
make more before it comes out. Uh ok tuv making
waves A dude that jade nectar and dude for equilibrium
seeds seem to have the same. I don't know much

(01:20:06):
about it. I honestly don't know much about it. I'm
not a tester, like a lab tester type person. I
do all my testing in the room, so yeah, I
should be cheers. Cheers, cheers brother, please guys right, any

(01:20:26):
blue dreamed across this, we got we got gold Farms
blue dream stuff. Bro, we have real blue dream stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Yeah, doctor Zamir punjak HLVD passes the seeds. That's good
to know. I don't know. I'm not familiar with him,
but yeah, I'd like to see some pure reviewed papers
on it. If he has any, let me know. That'd
be awesome. Like to check him out anyway. That's it.

(01:20:55):
I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. This is
a solo show. We're gonna go have a chat hosted
by the beautiful Screwstin in the discord. You get there
through buy me a coffee. The link is in our description.
We have cannabis console. They have the one on one

(01:21:15):
cannabis consultations. They've been fucking awesome. Actually, I've been enjoying
them as much as the people who have been doing
it with me is enjoying them. And being able to
personally meet a lot of the guys in the room
like one on one and have one on one face
to face conversation has been awesome, So I appreciate all
those number one cents. That's what I need to hear.

(01:21:36):
That's I need to hear. I'll check that out. I
think the chatbot thing in here at logs stuff like that,
so I'll go back and check it out. I really
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