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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (01:32):
Welcome Breader Syndicate. I'm Matthew with here Chuck Diesel and
a legend of the scene, Cushy Man. Welcome, Cushi Man.
Glad to finally have you.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, we're very very interested in talking to you. I've
been interested in talking to you in person like this,
so I'm super excited and I'm really excited to talk
about your history of your experience with this planet. So,
like I would start from the beginning, what was your
first experience with running into candid is, smelling it, seeing it,
growing it, even smoking it.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It started off in Canada is basically where we lived.
It was all hash. If you're lucky to get well,
you were very fortunate.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So yeah, it's much more of a hash culture there.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, and we just maybe maybe Toronto got it up
where we were in between Otto and Montreal. It was
it was hash.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Is that like French Canada? Because I'm pretty Canada stupid.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's very French, even even the Ontario part.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Can you speak French?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
J'epilmp No, I don't not very good. If it's not fishing,
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
But what how old were you the first time you
came in contact with cannabis?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You think? I think I when I went to my
short stint in university in nineteen sixty eight or something
like that. We had anyway, But the only thing I
really remember was maybe a year later when I quit
university and joined my brother's band and we were in uh,
(03:20):
the Air Force base in New Brunswick, and it was
New Year's and they had acapoco gold. Oh wow, And
someone brought a joint to the party and gave it
to me. It was really but I had a joint.
It just went around. Everybody was dancing because we were
We hung out with his band called Killer Age, and
(03:42):
they did James Brown Funk and all that. Everyone was
dancing to that. It was and I got to get
maybe one or two more chokes. But it was something.
I was describing the music and colors and there. It's
just like it was just Strip City and I brought
some of the seeds home the first time I ever
started any But we had a problem with getting amplifiers
(04:10):
I guess manager getting them without tax or something to
someone who is bypassing a music store. So here I am.
The next detectives come up. What they trying to yes anyway,
and turned out it was about that. But I went
out to back and just put them on the back.
(04:33):
That was That was it?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
That was it was that would you say that moment
then was probably the more profound or powerful moments that
made you really get into cannabis.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It was something we'd had some nice Mexican stuff that
was you know, with piles of seeds and everything. This
it was. It was wonderful.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, I love that. For me, it was I know
Matt sorts a million times, but it was, uh, gran
Eddy Purt back in like I'm young. So but for
me that that first experience of getting some good bud.
I mean I had Mexican brick most of my life
until that point. So experiencing that where you realize like wow,
(05:13):
like I want to do this or be involved with
this some some way or somehow for the rest of
my life.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know. We ended up getting bails, you know, getting
Colombian in the seventies, so it was pretty good for that.
We never got almost never got any of the real
high end stuff. But the stuff we got was pretty good.
I got Colombian red one time, and it's the same
as the Colombian red that I grew, you know, five
or six years ago. Got too much sedation, Oh really
(05:42):
it was.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It was the red is shorter flower than like the
black and the gold Diino.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It was long stuff that was still long. It was
long stuff. It wasn't as yeah, it wasn't necessarily as
long flower as like Santami or gold or that Columbian
black stuff. But it took long time. It wasn't the
other stuff. All the other stuff we were getting was hybridized.
I never got it to really flower, but by September
(06:09):
it was a beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Bush, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah. In the seventies and the early we didn't even
we couldn't get budgs. We would just clip the tips
off and dry them and smoke smoke them or smoke
the leaves.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, wow, yeah, it makes sense. I mean've been all
the way up there and trying to flower Colombian way
up there. It just wouldn't flower.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And it also the weather that we had back then
is not like we have now. Yeah, it was a
It was a time in history when when things were
much colder and much hotter. Yeah, mind you within thirty years,
fifty years, things shun changed back and forth, and we
have no real explanation.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I've never really thought about that, like, you know, a
growing for a while now, but I neber I thought
about how how the weather and the climate can change
over a long span, Like, are you so you're still
growing roughly in the same area you've always been in?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah? And wow, okay, okay. Before when I first started,
we were growing them in say the seventies, the early seventies.
You did not make it to the eighth of September.
It was dead. Wow. You didn't get one frost Like
one frost one we won't kill them. But you get
success of pretty bad voins. And now many times you
(07:35):
can get you always can go into October. Wow. Sometimes
you can sleep through to November.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
But this is this is with frost, but not ones
that are gonna cripple there than everything.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, to think about over a time
span of time like that, that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, well it just seemed to happen, and yeah, we'll
see if it continues that way.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
So do you think would you say it's easier to
grow now?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Oh yeah, I mean except for powdering mildew and that
and that orange maggot. Okay, you know the Sam maggot eight.
I haven't had the we got about thirty years. Who's terrible.
You get there and some little, uh maybe less than
a centimeter sized moth bites the stem inoculates it, and
(08:31):
then it gets boldous and out comes these wow, orange
orange maggots. And it's not like the California ones where
they come and eat your bud. They've basically killed it
by living inside there. And when they do it, when
they would do it all inside cola, you'd end up
getting wrought. So besides that and powdery mildew, that part
(08:55):
was very bad. It still is.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, I've never had they never ran into those ones before.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Man, Well, you're really fortunate. I thought it was up
there too.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I mean it very well could be where I'm at.
I'm really uh, I got a big giant swamp around me,
and uh, I'm pretty isolated man, So I mean, I
don't know if that helps or not, but I'm out
in the country.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I lived in the swamp.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
We got him, okay, well, you know for the most part. Yeah,
for the most part. I'll get a few spider mics
and powdery. Mildew's my biggest battle before I especially before
I started using the micross sulfur and stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Man, we never got spider makes out. Sorry, but yeah,
that's your groom into greenhouse or something. But howderam Mildew is?
Oh it's dude, I know it. I hate it.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, even indoors up here. It's if you're not on
top of your ship and got good airflow.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And well, I feel if you've got it, you've got it, okay,
and you can get rid of it by hammering it
with whatever that stuff is. I can't remember what it's called,
nova or whatever it is, Nova twenty or whatever. You
can get rid of it that way if every one
(10:15):
of your plants have been hid enough, and then you
don't have to do it. But otherwise they'll just creep back.
It's sad.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, So after that experience with the Acapoca gold you
said you popped some seeds. Was this your first start
at popping seeds and growing anything to any kind of fruition.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Let's see. Yeah, and then yeah and that, and then
I had to dump those and and oh that's too bad.
Then I moved. That was when the detectives came. And
now that's just too power. It doesn't matter. I don't.
I didn't. I mean, I knew how to plant things,
but it wasn't there weren't a lot of people. There
(11:00):
wasn't a lot of knowledge around her. And that it
was in a rock and roll band and we were
gone all the time. Yeah, that makes sense when you're
I mean, you're seriously in a rock and roll band.
That's all you think about it. It's just yeah, it's
hard to do other things. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
That that and the ladies you to.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I ended up getting married and we moved to Ottawa
or took music lessons. That that was the year that
Cambodian came.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh wow, tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I courted my chick, the one I have now after
after my wife. She'd just run anyway. On the Campo Holy,
it looked a lot like the Aca Poco gold that
was piles of seeds and smashed up looking weed and
none of them were hardly bud. Same with aca poco gold.
It was just kind of maybe the fact that all
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it was was just smashed up calyxies. I don't know. Yeah,
we would smoke something. It was I guess today we
smoked something and you hit tooth tooke and you'd be
there for hours, just wow, just sitting and there and.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
That's wild. Do you remember any of the saner flavor
of that stuff back then?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
No, it's maw kind of perfume. Me. All I know
is that I grew seeds of that. My girlfriend had
a was renting a place outside in Ottawa. We grew
them and placed it was it used to be an
old zoo or something like that. They hadn't had it
(12:36):
for ages, but I think that there's a lot of
ostrich shit and all that. Anyway, we grew some it.
I've never seen leaf serrations look like that before. It
was like AI did it and did some stupid fucked
up job of it, like it always does. You know.
It was just it was so beautiful and it was
(12:58):
starting to flower. We got a mail I don't know
what happened, and then the we did hear the odd
click and it was that that landlady we had. She
followed us out and took photos of of of caught
called the cops. My girlfriend and I came home one
from hitchhiking one time, came down the driveway and no ship.
(13:22):
We saw people unscrewing the light bulb. Oh you know,
like they tell you in the they were unscrewing the lights.
So it was good we came up there. We knew
that they were anyway, they guess they took the We
we went and crawled in a a shed that we
(13:42):
had an old tent. We dragged the tent out into
the field and just did it and slept in there
and then they were gone. So then went back then
went back to the house in the morning and well
they took things, but we didn't. We're just poor people.
We didn't have any Maybe we had a couple of
little pieces of hacket I didn't find, but they took
the weed. That was just so sad.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Oh, yeah, that's that's horrible.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That was it was. It was so sad. There wasn't
there was nothing for weed around there. Then you had
hashed if you could ford it.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I understand. Man I'm not gonna rehash them because I've
told them a million million times. But Ship, just like
two or three years ago, I had to run through
a field in the middle of the night and dumped
all my fucking clones and ceilings and plants and everything
because I thought they were coming up the driveway. Dude,
just stupid.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Ship.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Did you say you corded your your your wife with
that with that weed?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well I didn't. I didn't say I've got this, are
you're going to come? Yeah? She smoked weed and we
had that. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah it made things anyway. Hey,
you sure did?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yeah, we we makes friends and uh, I mean, I
can't tell you how many times I've started a relationship
over some weeds, especially in the black market realm. You know,
you run into people.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
But what were all those dudes' names?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I want to hear them, Yeah, Chad, They all worked
at Chippendale's Chicken Bone Beach.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So because man, what was your first plant that you
grew through full flower that you were happy with? What
kind of era was there?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Someone gave me a whole big pile of Mexican seeds
and that stuff flowered in time, and that was in
nineteen seventy eight, just when all the Afghany Indica stuff
came from New Hampshire, Vermont, New York. Okay, remember there
was a thing where they had that nineteen seventy eight
where the High Times but of the year was one
(15:51):
with an Afghany from New Hampshire. Anyway, it was that
it came up over drew. I bought an ounce of
weed that had some seeds from a friend of mine
who's he's still around and everything, and grew that and
thought it was the greatest weight in the world. Okay,
it was really good. It had the whole plethora of everything,
of tastes and sizes and everything. But a couple of
(16:15):
years down the line, I kind of realized I got
a better high off the Mexican Interesting. No sedation, Yeah,
no sedation, no lethargy. I like even ninety nine percent
of all the tops, sativas and everything have too much
(16:35):
sedation for me.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Anyway, Yeah, yeah, that's interesting, you know what. Like I
remember reading in a lot of the articles, especially like
in High Times, with the guy or the connoisseur. He
had that same opinion on Afghani's just like no we
don't like the highpowered.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
His We devoured his reviews. He was so freaking cool.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You know, he's still alive. I've tried to get him
on the show a million times, but he will not
respond to me. Hell, he writes on Twitter all the
time under his real name, and it took so much
digging to find out who he really was. And he's
an author, and every time I respond to every tweet, Well,
you ever interested in doing this? Would you already ask
him questions specific to what he was talking about to
(17:17):
try to move him in. Never responds, But that would
be the most amazing interview, I would be.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It would be the most amazing interview. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
He inspired I think a lot of generations of wheat growers.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It inspired to dream of what could be. Really he did,
and he was also talking about what was happening there,
and there was obviously some really that. You know. The
Hayes was pretty good, Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Shuff The Hayes stories were great because the first one
he talked about it, and then the second one he
talked to them, and the third one was about them
arguing and the Hayes brothers being pissed off and him
snapping back.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
In it and they had their little smoke off.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yes, yes they did.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
It's right. Someone that Hayes brothers called our aren't.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yes, aren't. Yeah, that's right. That shit was great. I
loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
We've done a whole show on him, trying to actually
like hope that he would like watch it and be
interested to do it, but he has. I don't know
if it was just being so disillusioned with cannabis by
the time he was done, or being a part of
that industry at the time, because it's just a it's
always like a microcosm of what it's become. So many shitheads.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Maybe when you're as famous as he is, whether we
think of it all he really is, you know, he
really is famous for the first one to do these
wonderful descriptors of what's going on.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, yeah, he writes politics now only good guard.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
If he's from he's from California, good luck. I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
No, No, he's a New Yorker.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
He's a New york right, even worse.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Closer to you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
You know, you understand that better. Yeah, you know, I
wish I wish you would. He would interview though, because
to hear how we described stuff, it really was like
you talked about it. It made you dream about like
what was out there, what you could find, what was
the potentials were in this cannabis.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
He knew about a lot of the really cool import
because really the friggin imports for yeah, really something.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
They had some amazing images of, Like I think it
was Dennis Perone in California. He has he had a
weeds shop or like a house that people would come
into and it was just bowls of all these different
imports of different flower at the time in the late seventies,
and it was crazy to.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
See there was some beautiful Mexican yeah bed stuff that
I actually had, things that I got so tripped out.
I wrote things down in the list form like I
did when when I took peyote and talked to Mescalito. Okay, yeah,
it's just you're just like, holy this is. And I
(20:01):
had one where it was so good I could I
could smell it just as it was starting to flower
from like a mile away. Wow, I could smell a
particular turfen. It was like, oh, I can't believe it.
It was a still day. Of course, it was sunny,
but that was a wonderful That just shows the power
(20:22):
of that particular plant. Was that's crazy, but it never
flowered in time.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
What kind of plant was that one? Do you remember?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It was a Mexican mex Some people had something. Really
They ended up with a big load of Mexican and
this was the top of it. And the guy who
was one of my friends around there was in with
him or something and he wasn't allowed to sell it.
(20:50):
So I got a little bit and then smoked some
and then my friend came and it's gone all that.
It's okay. I got and didn't get it again, and
it was It's one of those one of those things
I'm sure everybody everybody really regrets. Same with that freaking
Cambodi and it's like, okay, you want to be nice
to someone or something rather anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Now you mentioned you mentioned peote. Was that something you
were into during the same era.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Well, I took people had paote. I took we took some. Uh,
my friend's saying one of my other friends my friend there,
Uh not that friend, he's my longest friend. H him
and his wife took them. They got high. I didn't
we ate. I ate seven of them. We had to
eat them with jam because they made your stomach feel
(21:40):
fuck up. They got high. I didn't get high at all.
I went to bed. I woke up. Oh, oh god,
another one of these things. The storm goes over and
goes the whole thing right over. My friend gets up
and everything, and I wake up like that, and I'm high.
(22:03):
And then I see Mescalito going up and down on
my wall. He looked like Yosemite. Sam, here's this little
cartoon character, and there's all these stupid these little pod
uh cactus says and something. He's going up and down,
up and down, and then tell that fathy he's anyway.
I turned around and to release green. I guess they
(22:28):
were cicados. They were all on the wall, and I
knew I had to remove them, so I took my
t shirt up and gently took them out. No, that's
not true. I didn't see Mescalito until after that. I
got something that told me I had to take them
out because they're on on the wall. I took them out,
(22:48):
and when I came out there that's wild and he was.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
The other people with you seeing it or is it
just you?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
By they had gone back to they'd gone back to
no nobody. I don't. I don't know if my friend
remembers the no I think he remembers the mesallita bugs. Yeah,
that's so. But they went back to bed because they'd
already gone up and tripped and everything, and it was
like three o'clock in them in the morning. And I
remember psychically calling him a grotty individual. I don't know
(23:19):
why I ever, and he looked at me and said, well,
I have some time tonight. I don't some time tonight,
but basically, don't push me. I don't remember nothing much
else happened, but I remember I had a quarter it's
reels of reels, uh tate box. It took it off,
(23:42):
and I had the thing where you where you're right
about the tape and I wrote mescalito description. I still
got it's like twenty things basically what I just said.
But so I figured after that I didn't need to
take mescaline. I didn't need to take peyote anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Did you ever experience or experiment with mushrooms?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah? Yeah, I took a lot in Columbia.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
When did you go to Columbia? Opeyan walked out. Oh,
we walked out to a kilometer twenty six You walked
twenty six kilometers. Well, there weren't any twenty six kilombs.
We went on the way back. I saw some. We
happened to see some that were a little over right.
I ate some, and then just when we almost got in,
we saw some more that were fresh. So I ate
(24:28):
all them. That was all freshed. It was something I bet,
oh ye's out good. What kalidascopic hallucination on top of
kalida scophics hallucination. And we were at this penteon and
I had this little Supreme Nino recorder and I kept
(24:50):
them playing, playing and playing. Next thing, you know, I
felt like I was playing stuff that came out of
the mountains and everything. But it was really the poor
woman who was I did it all night, you know,
kids and all that kind of crack. In the morning,
I was still doing it. Looked out the middle in
the and there, and there's the guy there. I guess
it's those things where you you chew this berry and
(25:13):
let it fall on the on the he was letting it.
He's sitting on the he was really out of it.
He's been taking it all now. And this is a
very very rural town. Anyway, you sitting there and you
chew on these red berries and then you spit the
season or something he did. He didn't look like he
was very happy. He looked like like he was drunk,
(25:35):
but not very happy. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
What did the red berries do?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
No, it's some sort of drug. It's not cat. It's
not cat. It's some one of those. It's one of
those things. I did know what it was a couple
of weeks ago when I saw it on YouTube. They're
talking about it from Africa. Anyway. I don't know, and
I don't think it was that. It was the alcohol
in the berries were sort of something. Yeah, very but
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got you maybe you got to really a good budget start.
And he was kind of getting marched out. But he
didn't look that. He was like, I feel like I'm
gonna puke or ship. He looked like he did it
all the time. Okay, yeah he was. He was chewing
very Rubby.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Got a permanent staining on the side of his mouth.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, quite possibly.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah, so you got a bird, You got a bird.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, I got a budget. He's not. He may get
a he make him here, who knows.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I understand we got a cockatoo. I don't know if
you can hear him in the background, but he's a handful.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I don't know how you can't here.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
You really are, Yeah, I had one. They are, they
convey I've seen the Rule family sometimes.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yes, they do. They do.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
This guy, you've got to start on him early and.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Well this this is when we adopted. He's almost twenty
seven years old.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
So we rest they live forever.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
No dog, you'd still kill those guys, kill those birds.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And you're our doctor all that wonder.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, if you keep him healthy, they will live for
for fucking ever.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
You're like, well, yeah, I can't. Yeah, my old lady
she uh does like wrapt or rehab and uh oh no,
all that stuff she does, all that. I mean, you know, Matt,
we rescue dogs, cat Yeah, yeah, possums. We just rescued
some possums the other night.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh are monsters possums? No? Come on, mean they hissed
it man, the dog. That's an o possum that we
have here.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I think, well, the same thing they Uh So the
other night I go out to check out the grow
in the garden and Lady Bird, my mast if she's
one hundred and thirty pounds. She runs out and grabs
this possum, and I ship you not. I thought that
the possum's head flew off, dude, because it was instant.
This thing goes flying. Well, I heard and it was
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she had shaken that mama and all the baby. It
was all babies, little bitty baby. No, and uh. We
left them out there for a little bit and the
mom never came back. So I went out there and
scooped them up, and the old lady she took them
to we. Like I said, we're always rescuing something around there. Yeah,
I love them.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
They they're cute. We did raccoons before. Some guy had
shot the mother with a pellett, and I raised raised
two of them. I had also had a rescue raccoon
and Nova Scotia went when I flew up to Nova
Scotia with my uh go go dance or extu go
go dance, her wife and music that we brought our raccoon.
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But it was a female and once you got mature,
holy that was a mean, that was meaning. So we
did get that one out in a while. But I
raised these other two and I kept them outside and
every two o'clock in the morning, they'd be crawling the
screen and I have to go and feed them pablem
And then we find they let them go, and they
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went away, and we had a Halloween party and people
were there and they said, Pooci's back anyway. They came
back and put the female was a normal size. Pooci
was the size of a freaking watchcot. And they came
and hung around. Then they left. We never saw him again,
but I thought, I just mean, my brothers trapped twelve
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rockoons at our place in the last two weeks, So
you gotta get you got to get rid of those buggers.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Well you need to get them to put them to
work and give them a fucking job. Get them out
there protecting the garden. You know, you train them.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Oh they do that.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, what's the Nully always says it's older again or discord.
He's always says, back in the day, put fish hooks,
razor blades on his weed and all this ship keep
people believe it, yes, fishing sinkers to weigh his plants
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down all his shop.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Fish needs to meet Danalli of everyone, because he's our
main fisherman buddy. Like he's.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, you know how he called himself optimist Prime.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh yeah, he's been on the show.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, okay, Well I talked to him every day. We
exchanged Walleye Walleye photos and everything like that. He does
float tu being and he he goes around and does
other stuff, I mean, issewhere and everything. Oh anyway, Yeah,
he really liked him.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
He's cool.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Him and his wife came visited us a couple of
years ago. Uh and uh, I took him fishing. That's awesome,
just like n c g A came up and visited
us a couple of times. Ron.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, I love Ron.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
And elk Slayer took elk Slayer went five hours out
of his out of his way to come and stay
overnight and everything is. I talked to him all the time.
We talked about fishing and tell him.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
We want him on the show. Hey, what's up everyone.
This is Matthew from Riot Seeds and Breaders syndicate it
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Speaker 3 (32:17):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Everybody else does? It? Might as well right back to
our show.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Hey, Matt, you know it would be a good episode
to get cushy cushi Man, get mad jag and then uh,
I forgot the other guy. Were thinking about somebody else?
But get a few of.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
The older Optimus Prime would be good.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, I hang I hang up with mad jag on
our on the forum.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I love cool.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I just I cannot stop thinking about the petro glyphs. Okay,
oh yeah yeah, and we're watching one about this other
guy doing it and everything, but growing to weed in
the tenure just absolutely wonderful. I love that idea. But hey, trying.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And then with the capes, the dark capes out there
and stuff that was freaking cool the movie made.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Another cool thing was when he got uh the the
land on spec to try and sell to hippies and
stuff like that. Yes, great, Yeah, one.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Of his friends stole a helicopter to fly to the
the burgeoning cartel down there. Crazy crashed it right over
the border.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Oh yeah, and he had to talk about it, I know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, he's he's something else. He still goes out and
like raves and parties.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Well he has his own party yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, he's invited everyone in the Discord to it. For
I really want to go out every year something happens.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
But I want to go all the wall wed and
food too, because a lot of the people there that
goes there, some of them are really good chef. Oh
I'm sure. Oh yeah, I don't know what i'd do though.
I just mean what I try and be not get
too hammered and all that. You just give up. You
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just go there and shot fun, shut up and just
well it's all fun anyway. But oh you're just shut
up and just suck that out. You know.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
We we had we used to have parties yearly where
a bunch of us would come out, all the breeders
and stuff, and yeah, it was interesting. I'd be a
just sat there, tried to be a fly on the
wall and take everything in like different breeders that are
really respected.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I already told you how I already told you how
much I love uh Caleb's okay, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's one of my best friends.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
On smiling God. I just love it.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
You should have You should have been there with the
little party we had with d Nali. We were all
balls of the log getting hammered.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Even Rob Clark was getting hammered.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
We were, we were. You gotta keep in mind, we
get there, the tornado, hits power goes out. We party
all night till four in the morning, get up at
six am and go small mouth fishing on Lake Saint
Clair for eight hours, come back, party all night, stay
up till four again, and then get up at six
again and do another eight hours all day.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
What are you doing? Tubes or drop God, no.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Drop shots on boats? Just back uh you know nice
bass boats. Doing a tour. Yeah, Denali and the guys
had paid these tour guys to take us out there.
So we were there was like ten of us. Uh,
you know, all weed heads and growers and ship.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And uh you went out to people's passboats.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah. It was fun. They're doing seventy or sixty five
on the water and getting high. They let us smoke
on the boats and I did.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I did that for twenty years. It's great, dude.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, him and Denali would get along real well.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Denali always invites other fishermen to come come hang out.
It's a thing. He's like, they don't ever turn me down.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I don't know why he invited my ass. I think
he was trying to screw me or something.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know, I think so too.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
I don't know, you do look pretty with that long hair,
they said, saw me from the back, sit who looks
like a girl?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Cigarettes?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, no, that was a great That was a great trip, dude.
The parties are fun.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
It sounds terrific. A whole bunch of people going out
on bass boats, screaming, small mouths and like think Clara,
but you got.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
It, keeping in keeping mind worst screaming and cussing. And
I'm on the boat with one of the guys. He's
kind of redneck like I am. He's from Virginia. We're
hooping and hollering, laughing because this dude's doing like sixty
five and I'm trying to smoke a smoke a joint
and the other guys are racing along next to us,
and we're giving them the bird and hopping ship. And
I mean, still, there's so much better than that. You know,
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there's not much better living than that, being out on
the boat, hanging out with your friends, having a good time,
smoking weed, talking about weed.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I tried, I've tried to replace these things with other things.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
You know, No, no, maybe a woman kind of part time.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, you got it. You gotta say that's got that's
a yeah, you have to have that, or I have
to have that.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, it's a list.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
It's not a seventy split. I'm not sure which one
gets some more time. I don't don't let her hear that. Yeah, yeah,
But anyways, back to the league, guys, I'm sorry, I'm huh.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
So, what was the first first strain with a name
like that you that you read it to? That is
it like a regional name, But the first like named
by someone strain you read it to?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
The only regional one is the one that I felt it.
It was called Earl. Earl. Earl weighed three hundred and
fifty pounds and was famous for being able to go
and need one hundred eggs roll on the the you know,
Chinese food nights. Yes, and they called what, like I said, I,
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you had all kinds of weed, and I've talked about
stuff that was dutchweed and all that. But when this
was too obviously when Earle came in all the other
sales stuff, because Earl was really like baseball bat things,
I'm pretty sure that it was some sort of it
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tasted almost like tie, and it was a Northern Lights
five type thing, but I don't really know that much
about Northern Lights five. I had it and process and
all that, but it was really lots of lumber in it,
big leaves and everything like that, but it had a
real high to it rather than you know, Lethard two
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and stuff like that. It took longer to finish. And
that was the scary part because that was in the
nineties and it was it was iffy, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
What I was growing was in nineteen eighty eighty nine,
I went to the hydro shock. He gave me a number.
Phone this number, and asked for Neville. Okay, yeah, phone
and asked for Neville. This very polite guy came and talked,
and I was talking. I had just bought the the
(39:20):
hash the west Coat hashplant cutting okay yeah, from someone
in Winnipeg, and I was talking to him about it,
and he said, oh, yeah, you mean it wants to
because I I wanted to get the hash plant seeds Okay, yeah,
I didn't nineteen but G thirteen and all that kind
of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Anyway, he said it wants to go like a Vinus
type of Yeah, that's it. Anyway. So I heard some
of that, and I got the Durban. I also got
Hayes Northern Lights five, and I got some skunk number
one cross or something that was the most beautiful, crappy stuff.
I ever had. Yeah, and he gave me he got
and I got g thirteen and when I when the
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cut packages came, it said, germ, this first, what a
fucking idiot.
Speaker 7 (40:05):
That's what I didn't do for three years. And that's
what I didn't do for three years. Refrigerated. Oh no, no,
they're I drew the hash plant.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
The first one is. They're pretty good, very buried and
all that kind of stuff was as good as the cutting.
Uh the durban. My safe addie guy. I never got
to meet him. His name was Billy. It was through
a friend of me that I knew. We got it
sent to him. So Billy said, I'm going to take
two or three seeds for them, thank you very much.
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He grew them, gave me the rest. I grew with
them and that. But he got one female and a
male and he bred it and sold me the seeds.
And that was the most wonderful bat For like five years,
people couldn't it just couldn't get enoughing. I didn't like it.
It tasted way too much like an east It was
just unbelieve. But every one of them looked like a
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perfect freaking Christmas tree. Wow it was, and like it
was just it was. It was totally wonderful. But I
was also going indoor at the same time. I grew
his northern legs. Five there's males everything. I ended up
with two plants. They looked identical. I joined all my
other stuff, that eight week stuff. This took sixteenth week.
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They both looked the same. They bloody well killed themselves
with some kind of fuzzy brown resident and one of them,
I'm not. I mean, I've had idiots on the uh
on the forums laugh at me. I don't care. I'm
telling you. I was smoking Columbian at the time. I
was trimming weed and all that type. I took two
cokes and all of a sudden, I was in this
(41:41):
fucking bubble and it was like this fun house and
I done that like that. It was like times some
on on some little fun house, going through uh uh
the water. It was like going through the river sticks.
It was like I was going through hades, and I
can hear all kinds of crackling and clicking and everything.
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It didn't last, it didn't last too long, but it
was good. And then then the bag got mixed up
and someone told me how fucking incredible it was, and
I had this other bag and it was good. But
there we go another another long another thing that could
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have been I'd already I'd already crossed it to all
kinds of things too, but I got in. I'm gonna
just got gout. I got it. After years of drawing,
I got I did that and say, funk, what am
I gonna do? I'm gonna end up this sucking a
league one that. Yeah, that's half half reason they didn't have.
I got a doctor daughter, but I didn't have any
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mark and just to worry about. I mean, I didn't socialized,
didn't do anything. I didn't anyway, I can't remember. I
was talking.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
You were talking about the NL five Hays and.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yeah, no, it was some other it was some other
digressions anyway, it was uh it was. It was a
wonderful plant. And oh yeah, I crossed them to all
kinds of wonderful things back back then. And then after
doing it four or five ors this year as well,
I'm not starving to death, so I was I would
actually bother my You know how people's chips are always
(43:19):
on their bag to stop growing. Yeah, I never got that. Okay,
if i'd have just had some kind of incursion. Honey,
my chicks just so fucking wonderful. See, never do never
did that anyway. So in the end, I just one
time said called my friend, said okay, let's go. I
think my back was fucked to my back would end
(43:41):
up being fucked too because I was also a bee keeper.
We had two hundred bee highs. I'd be lifting these
frigging things, and like I always had a bad back too. Yeah,
I forgot anyway. I said, come on, Steve, come go up.
And I had a hundred of these northern lights all
ready to go, not ready, they're flowering out. I said,
(44:03):
rip them up. He said, you're sure to rip them up?
To rip them up? And I threw some of my
clones away and all that kind of stuff. I smoked
what I had for a few years that was broke. Yeah,
so that was like, okay, what that was? That was
noble of you? No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't anyway.
(44:24):
So it was just like, so I I did anything,
did you?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Did you keep seeds of those all these years?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Or you know, I've only got seeds since like nineteen
ninety eight. The other ones, I didn't know how to
keep them correctly. Yeah, it's not messed went through that.
I'm not messing up missing a whole lot of stuff
because it's like that. It's just like all these other
get wonderful sativas and only one of them, only one
(44:52):
of them, I like, out of all of them, you know.
So it's like plant dependent. Unless coach, you're growing commercially
or or just want to get whacked and stuff like that,
you can find it anywhere. Yeah, but if you if
you want to just go often, not be tired and
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
I had a question, uh, before we get too far along,
I didn't want to interrupt you a second.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Don't worry, I've already mightn't have to think that.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
It's okay. The first one, one of the first ones
you got. You were talking about the earl.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Yeah, earl. Yeah, well it would grow huge.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
I just wanted to ask before I forget, because I'm
stone myself and uh in Kentucky growing up years ago,
people would say, like when they went to go see
their guy or their dude or the plug, whatever you
want to call it, they would say, I'm gonna go,
uh see about getting some earl or my buddy earl?
Is that is that is that has anything to do
with that?
Speaker 3 (45:52):
You know, we know nothing about that. The guy who
said it was called the Big Northern like, okay, his
friends showkay with my neighbor down there, he did a
lot of He ended up doing a lot of stuff.
He never smoked weed, never did anything, but he did
a lot of stuff. And the Big Northern light. And
so I got a clone for ten dollars one time,
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and I selfed it, and I've got seeds of it,
so a huge, beautiful yielding if anything is pure northern
the light, that sucker is.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Oh no, it's awesome. That's that's if I ever did nothing.
And like my best friend Steve coming with one seed
he got out of some afghany hatch oh nice and
hash bean. Yeah yeah, and it turned out to be
pretty well all sativa. But and and I self that
(46:46):
and and and got that off one planet. A lot
of them are just like, yeah, but you're killing the
gene pool. Yeah, but only got one bloody seed. Yeah, yeah,
I don't like breathing to that. But no, you can
get really good stuff, like let's see, what's say his name, Shah,
I got a Kim dog Kim Doug b X Kim
(47:10):
Dog Kim four b X one off him. Yeah, pretty well,
best fucking wed. I've got photos that I can show you.
It's just like you create. One person looked at it,
said the feedback came back. It shine with the light
of its own anyway, So that does show how a
b X can really can work. Yeah, but I personally,
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I don't it scares me.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
The cam Floridas, no.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Crossing and all that. At my age, just self it. Yeah,
let other people do whatever. Self it. Then you can
do stuff with it. But once you lose that, once
you lose the clone, it's not necessarily the same one.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Yeah, it's a good way to put it. You were
talking about back cross is one that was really great
recently that I had was H and L's Kim dog
D back cross. That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, you could across to Mango Hates.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Or this was that through Appalachia.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
It was a green crack green crack kim D like hybrid. Yeah,
it was awesome like that as the outcross.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
And Appalati is made of what.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
It's kim D. It's called trade Dog from j J
New York.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Oh yeah, I've actually yeah, got seeds of that that
I bought from timont and and all that. It was great,
just like some of those star Fighter things off the
off the you know, off that that surfer guy that
was on that, uh, I on that other on that
other forum that I was on that that was it
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was fun for a while. Some of the auctions were
the best things in the whole frigging world.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Which one which forum?
Speaker 3 (48:57):
It's the gun that everybody hates because they say, when
you ordered seeds, you didn't get what you want? Yeah, yeah, yep, yep,
you do. Got to do you do everything that guy
wanted to do, you got, you got everything. I cannot
tell you the brigging wonderful stuff I got off some
of those auctions, especially the Joe There's something something support auction.
(49:20):
Some of these.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
Things, huh Joe brand support auction, something like that.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Some guy got busted and oh what, I got a diesel,
you know, a diesel back to and asked, well, anyway,
it was, it's awesome, awesome, I got some wonderful.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
I did everything he said, and you still ripped me
off for nine hundred. He was he was a motherfucker
and he.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Got a lot of people somehow everything I I I
ordered came through some people.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
That did, some people that did. It was just depended
on the week day.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
And if you liked you, you're a likable guy.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Man. No, I have no idea whether you're like or not.
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
That was a loftail. I'm telling you, it's crazy, dude.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
How if someone does like you and we the let's
look after you, bro. I can't say how much you guys, Matt,
the can I Illuminati guys H and L big Ern
and a couple other guys have taken good care of me,
especially you, Matt.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Thank you. I love you. In the last year when
I went since I went back to Icy Meg because
of our stupid five pms and crap, I went back
to Icy mag Country. It's a very nice place. Gypsy's
areas are pleasant, all that kind of stuff. The people
that either knew me a long time or any rate
(50:42):
justin wonderful, generous people who said, I think you might
like this. So I've got more genetics than brain cells
like everyone, but I bet, but these things are just
so enticing that you have to say yes. So it
was just so wonderful. And the ones with some of
those Mango hazes as I want to try it. Like
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I said, it's taking a long time, it's a late one,
but I'm really I'm pumped.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Were you on mister nice during the Neville era when
he put came back in.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
The in the eighties and in the seventies, nobody did it.
Nobody did it. Nobody. It was like when you remember
when CDs came out. It was like and if you
had if you had a studio type of this thing,
you just take them, put on a CD, put anything.
It was like voodoo. So for a while, if you
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had homegrown weed, it was like voodoo.
Speaker 4 (51:38):
Well there was another wave though, if you were in
the rural area like us, you were so isolated till
the Internet came right and a lot of the guys
coming up they were growing weed, they were doing other
shit too, so either they died or got arrested, So
a lot of that knowledge and stuff would die or
go with them. So like it wasn't till like late nineties,
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mid two thousand, in late two thous early ten, you know, uh,
like two thousand and eight before we started to see
good weeds. So for a while we got to experience
that kind of feeling because we went from brick seed
Mexican brick weed, because then, dude, it was so sketchy
to grow for us. Everybody tail on you. It's like
the few people I knew that grew, the few people
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that I knew would grow there, you couldn't tell nobody,
so you just kept to yourself. But I understand what
you're saying about that. That was the first time I
seen good weed with no seeds in it. I was like, Wow,
it was granddaddy purp So it's purple and all the
ship is the first time I seen purple weed.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
But I mean we lived. We lived in crazy, I
lived in the swamp. Was just basically nothing except for
like I said, Doug, these people that I knew that
somehow got three hundred pounds of Mexican up and I
got to have a bag of the stuff that I'm
still that I'm still talking about. Can not die. Is
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that big country and don't play flat and some is hilly.
Entry got got a place where there ain't nobody most
of the time. It's just a big deep freez. Got
manganese and we got lots of trees. We chew up
the land for the industry, got to make money, just
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like everybody see in Canada in Kana Kanna, can Nada,
in Kanna Kanda, Cannada, in Canada, in Canna. That's one
of my song called in Canada. In Canada, we used
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to worship the beaver, a large furry rodent with a
long flat tail. Versus was a railway. Then it was
the gold Rush. Then it was the prophecy of Mackenzie
King's dog in Canada.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
In Canada, I'm gonna insert I think right right here
when I do the stuff, because we're going to talk
about it. The Cushy song. I want people to hear it.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
It's about it. It's about when there was a corn field.
It was go get over the cornfield, had a long
ways to go to the ditch. Crawl through the ditch.
You were in heaven. Okay, yes, Well the place got
sold and the guy plowed it up and went long
there and things are fine. I went and did my
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planting and next thing you know, they come up and
the four by four go through the ditch and start
walking around there. And yeah, it was it was like
waking up in the morning hearing the the clanking of
the back hoe digging things and all that and went out,
went out there and they didn't see because they weren't
that big anyway. And I moved the cushy in the
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dark and the dom.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
That's a great song, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
Just musically it just turned out not what.
Speaker 8 (56:05):
Pops in SUNNYA.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Some of my own.
Speaker 8 (56:12):
You know you can't feel tudy present when the coola.
Speaker 9 (56:16):
Outromeus man say, al to man can like.
Speaker 8 (56:25):
Keep you dancing when you walk in a very tight
keep you dancing when you walk in a very tight.
Speaker 10 (56:35):
Worldushkeep you dancing when you walk in a very tight work,
very tight work, very tight work, very tight word, very
t work, very tiger, very tight wad, very black.
Speaker 11 (56:56):
Woman come out got don't look that pushy in the
dark handy talking about Charley one.
Speaker 8 (57:04):
Let's take that do it then not take that jock
hand him?
Speaker 3 (57:08):
What a way.
Speaker 12 (57:12):
Lundy cushion man said, lundy cushion man, say pushy.
Speaker 13 (57:18):
Man, say pushy man, say pushy man.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
Put backs in Samni.
Speaker 14 (58:09):
Some of my own.
Speaker 8 (58:13):
You know you can't fit on the presence when the
cola a broad push she coushi man say out the
man can't fly to keep you dancing when you walk
in the bear tight world. Keep you dancing when you.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
Walk in the bear tight world, Keep.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
You dancing when you walk in a bear a.
Speaker 13 (58:43):
Type work, very type work, very type work, very type.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
Work, very.
Speaker 11 (58:51):
Very title work, very tight word, very tight work.
Speaker 14 (58:57):
That's mad, come out, und got.
Speaker 8 (59:01):
To move that cush in the dark and the dog
only jolly, I'll take that. Do'n not take that truck
on them walk.
Speaker 12 (59:10):
Away Undy Kushiman center Runny PUSHI MANSI PUSHI man sway
PUSHI man said pushima due pushimas.
Speaker 3 (59:39):
Well. The doc home man come and I got to go.
Speaker 8 (59:46):
Wake up the money.
Speaker 14 (59:48):
He had the crank in the clanking.
Speaker 3 (59:50):
Oh yeah it did metal monster, you know. And it's
moving hot over the groun.
Speaker 11 (01:00:05):
Okay, Dory gott it, Cushine cam Knuda, Nory gott it,
Cushine cam Knagga, norm we gott it Cushine cam knocker, Nory, Catty,
(01:00:25):
Cuchine can nadery.
Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Aye.
Speaker 15 (01:00:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 14 (01:00:51):
Not let down, I'm not touch up finger on the
pushy pushing, mixing up the posting Lena putty dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Round yea.
Speaker 9 (01:01:05):
I yah yeah yeah yeah yeah yah yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
Let sunrise, let this sun fall.
Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Let that know be.
Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
Don't join them by don jo jo bye did.
Speaker 15 (01:01:27):
You rust her far right, not in the way, not
in the way, not in the way that you would say,
oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 9 (01:01:44):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
And the cushion man said m hm.
Speaker 9 (01:02:35):
Yah h yeah yeah yah yah yeah yeah yeah you're
not yet now I'm jumping.
Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 14 (01:02:50):
Chupping on a cushy cushting mixing up the boss Steeler
putting by yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:02:59):
Ye aye yeah yeah yeah yeah yah yea.
Speaker 8 (01:03:02):
Let the sun rise, let this soundful, Let that mob
be duty by.
Speaker 15 (01:03:18):
Joh by penal roster of far ride.
Speaker 9 (01:03:24):
Not into way, not in the way, not in the
way that you say, yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yah
yeah okay y yeah yeah yeah n.
Speaker 8 (01:03:49):
S when I make you in the money.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
And what do I see.
Speaker 8 (01:03:59):
See the big man do that?
Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
S yes, coming right up about me.
Speaker 8 (01:04:05):
I'm the kid's study.
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Cracks in the door.
Speaker 9 (01:04:09):
I see them get up of the for battle.
Speaker 8 (01:04:12):
I see them walking all around a pushure trint not
pushing on the door.
Speaker 9 (01:04:22):
I yeah yea, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:04:28):
I'm a pushy manswer.
Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Won't you bring it to me?
Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
Right by my win, won't you bring it to me?
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Back by my window?
Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
Won't you bring it to me right by my win?
What can bring it to me back back?
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Welcome Breader Syndicate. I'm Matthew with here Chuck Diesel and
a legend of the scene, Cushy Man. Welcome, Cushi Man.
Glad to finally have you.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, we're very very interested in talking to you. I've
been interested in talking to you in person like this,
so I'm super excited and I'm really excited to talk
about your history of your experience with this planet. So,
like I would start from the beginning, what was your
first experience with running into candid is, smelling it, seeing it,
growing it, even smoking it.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It started off in Canada is basically where we lived.
It was all hash. If you're lucky to get well,
you were very fortunate.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
So yeah, it's much more of a hash culture there.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, and we just maybe maybe Toronto got it up
where we were in between Otto and Montreal. It was
it was hash.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Is that like French Canada? Because I'm pretty Canada stupid.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
It's very French, even even the Ontario part.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Can you speak French?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
J'epilmp No, I don't not very good. If it's not fishing,
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
But what how old were you the first time you
came in contact with cannabis?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You think? I think I when I went to my
short stint in university in nineteen sixty eight or something
like that. We had anyway, But the only thing I
really remember was maybe a year later when I quit
university and joined my brother's band and we were in uh,
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the Air Force base in New Brunswick, and it was
New Year's and they had acapoco gold. Oh wow, And
someone brought a joint to the party and gave it
to me. It was really but I had a joint.
It just went around. Everybody was dancing because we were
We hung out with his band called Killer Age, and
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they did James Brown Funk and all that. Everyone was
dancing to that. It was and I got to get
maybe one or two more chokes. But it was something.
I was describing the music and colors and there. It's
just like it was just Strip City and I brought
some of the seeds home the first time I ever
started any But we had a problem with getting amplifiers
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I guess manager getting them without tax or something to
someone who is bypassing a music store. So here I am.
The next detectives come up. What they trying to yes anyway,
and turned out it was about that. But I went
out to back and just put them on the back.
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That was That was it?
Speaker 4 (04:34):
That was it was that would you say that moment
then was probably the more profound or powerful moments that
made you really get into cannabis.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
It was something we'd had some nice Mexican stuff that
was you know, with piles of seeds and everything. This
it was. It was wonderful.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, I love that. For me, it was I know
Matt sorts a million times, but it was, uh, gran
Eddy Purt back in like I'm young. So but for
me that that first experience of getting some good bud.
I mean I had Mexican brick most of my life
until that point. So experiencing that where you realize like wow,
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like I want to do this or be involved with
this some some way or somehow for the rest of
my life.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know. We ended up getting bails, you know, getting
Colombian in the seventies, so it was pretty good for that.
We never got almost never got any of the real
high end stuff. But the stuff we got was pretty good.
I got Colombian red one time, and it's the same
as the Colombian red that I grew, you know, five
or six years ago. Got too much sedation, Oh really
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it was.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
It was the red is shorter flower than like the
black and the gold Diino.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It was long stuff that was still long. It was
long stuff. It wasn't as yeah, it wasn't necessarily as
long flower as like Santami or gold or that Columbian
black stuff. But it took long time. It wasn't the
other stuff. All the other stuff we were getting was hybridized.
I never got it to really flower, but by September
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it was a beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Bush, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah. In the seventies and the early we didn't even
we couldn't get budgs. We would just clip the tips
off and dry them and smoke smoke them or smoke
the leaves.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, wow, yeah, it makes sense. I mean've been all
the way up there and trying to flower Colombian way
up there. It just wouldn't flower.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And it also the weather that we had back then
is not like we have now. Yeah, it was a
It was a time in history when when things were
much colder and much hotter. Yeah, mind you within thirty years,
fifty years, things shun changed back and forth, and we
have no real explanation.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I've never really thought about that, like, you know, a
growing for a while now, but I neber I thought
about how how the weather and the climate can change
over a long span, Like, are you so you're still
growing roughly in the same area you've always been in?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Yeah? And wow, okay, okay. Before when I first started,
we were growing them in say the seventies, the early seventies.
You did not make it to the eighth of September.
It was dead. Wow. You didn't get one frost Like
one frost one we won't kill them. But you get
success of pretty bad voins. And now many times you
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can get you always can go into October. Wow. Sometimes
you can sleep through to November.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
But this is this is with frost, but not ones
that are gonna cripple there than everything.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, to think about over a time
span of time like that, that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, well it just seemed to happen, and yeah, we'll
see if it continues that way.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
So do you think would you say it's easier to
grow now?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Oh yeah, I mean except for powdering mildew and that
and that orange maggot. Okay, you know the Sam maggot eight.
I haven't had the we got about thirty years. Who's terrible.
You get there and some little, uh maybe less than
a centimeter sized moth bites the stem inoculates it, and
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then it gets boldous and out comes these wow, orange
orange maggots. And it's not like the California ones where
they come and eat your bud. They've basically killed it
by living inside there. And when they do it, when
they would do it all inside cola, you'd end up
getting wrought. So besides that and powdery mildew, that part
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was very bad. It still is.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, I've never had they never ran into those ones before.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Man, Well, you're really fortunate. I thought it was up
there too.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
I mean it very well could be where I'm at.
I'm really uh, I got a big giant swamp around me,
and uh, I'm pretty isolated man, So I mean, I
don't know if that helps or not, but I'm out
in the country.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I lived in the swamp.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
We got him, okay, well, you know for the most part. Yeah,
for the most part. I'll get a few spider mics
and powdery. Mildew's my biggest battle before I especially before
I started using the micross sulfur and stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Man, we never got spider makes out. Sorry, but yeah,
that's your groom into greenhouse or something. But howderam Mildew is?
Oh it's dude, I know it. I hate it.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Yeah, even indoors up here. It's if you're not on
top of your ship and got good airflow.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And well, I feel if you've got it, you've got it, okay,
and you can get rid of it by hammering it
with whatever that stuff is. I can't remember what it's called,
nova or whatever it is, Nova twenty or whatever. You
can get rid of it that way if every one
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of your plants have been hid enough, and then you
don't have to do it. But otherwise they'll just creep back.
It's sad.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, So after that experience with the Acapoca gold you
said you popped some seeds. Was this your first start
at popping seeds and growing anything to any kind of fruition.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Let's see. Yeah, and then yeah and that, and then
I had to dump those and and oh that's too bad.
Then I moved. That was when the detectives came. And
now that's just too power. It doesn't matter. I don't.
I didn't. I mean, I knew how to plant things,
but it wasn't there weren't a lot of people. There
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wasn't a lot of knowledge around her. And that it
was in a rock and roll band and we were
gone all the time. Yeah, that makes sense when you're
I mean, you're seriously in a rock and roll band.
That's all you think about it. It's just yeah, it's
hard to do other things. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
That that and the ladies you to.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I ended up getting married and we moved to Ottawa
or took music lessons. That that was the year that
Cambodian came.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Oh wow, tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I courted my chick, the one I have now after
after my wife. She'd just run anyway. On the Campo Holy,
it looked a lot like the Aca Poco gold that
was piles of seeds and smashed up looking weed and
none of them were hardly bud. Same with aca poco gold.
It was just kind of maybe the fact that all
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it was was just smashed up calyxies. I don't know. Yeah,
we would smoke something. It was I guess today we
smoked something and you hit tooth tooke and you'd be
there for hours, just wow, just sitting and there and.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
That's wild. Do you remember any of the saner flavor
of that stuff back then?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
No, it's maw kind of perfume. Me. All I know
is that I grew seeds of that. My girlfriend had
a was renting a place outside in Ottawa. We grew
them and placed it was it used to be an
old zoo or something like that. They hadn't had it
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for ages, but I think that there's a lot of
ostrich shit and all that. Anyway, we grew some it.
I've never seen leaf serrations look like that before. It
was like AI did it and did some stupid fucked
up job of it, like it always does. You know.
It was just it was so beautiful and it was
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starting to flower. We got a mail I don't know
what happened, and then the we did hear the odd
click and it was that that landlady we had. She
followed us out and took photos of of of caught
called the cops. My girlfriend and I came home one
from hitchhiking one time, came down the driveway and no ship.
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We saw people unscrewing the light bulb. Oh you know,
like they tell you in the they were unscrewing the lights.
So it was good we came up there. We knew
that they were anyway, they guess they took the We
we went and crawled in a a shed that we
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had an old tent. We dragged the tent out into
the field and just did it and slept in there
and then they were gone. So then went back then
went back to the house in the morning and well
they took things, but we didn't. We're just poor people.
We didn't have any Maybe we had a couple of
little pieces of hacket I didn't find, but they took
the weed. That was just so sad.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Oh, yeah, that's that's horrible.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
That was it was. It was so sad. There wasn't
there was nothing for weed around there. Then you had
hashed if you could ford it.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
I understand. Man I'm not gonna rehash them because I've
told them a million million times. But Ship, just like
two or three years ago, I had to run through
a field in the middle of the night and dumped
all my fucking clones and ceilings and plants and everything
because I thought they were coming up the driveway. Dude,
just stupid.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Ship.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Did you say you corded your your your wife with
that with that weed?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well I didn't. I didn't say I've got this, are
you're going to come? Yeah? She smoked weed and we
had that. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah it made things anyway. Hey,
you sure did?
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Yeah, we we makes friends and uh, I mean, I
can't tell you how many times I've started a relationship
over some weeds, especially in the black market realm. You know,
you run into people.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
But what were all those dudes' names?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I want to hear them, Yeah, Chad, They all worked
at Chippendale's Chicken Bone Beach.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So because man, what was your first plant that you
grew through full flower that you were happy with? What
kind of era was there?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Someone gave me a whole big pile of Mexican seeds
and that stuff flowered in time, and that was in
nineteen seventy eight, just when all the Afghany Indica stuff
came from New Hampshire, Vermont, New York. Okay, remember there
was a thing where they had that nineteen seventy eight
where the High Times but of the year was one
(15:51):
with an Afghany from New Hampshire. Anyway, it was that
it came up over drew. I bought an ounce of
weed that had some seeds from a friend of mine
who's he's still around and everything, and grew that and
thought it was the greatest weight in the world. Okay,
it was really good. It had the whole plethora of everything,
of tastes and sizes and everything. But a couple of
(16:15):
years down the line, I kind of realized I got
a better high off the Mexican Interesting. No sedation, Yeah,
no sedation, no lethargy. I like even ninety nine percent
of all the tops, sativas and everything have too much
(16:35):
sedation for me.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Anyway, Yeah, yeah, that's interesting, you know what. Like I
remember reading in a lot of the articles, especially like
in High Times, with the guy or the connoisseur. He
had that same opinion on Afghani's just like no we
don't like the highpowered.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
His We devoured his reviews. He was so freaking cool.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You know, he's still alive. I've tried to get him
on the show a million times, but he will not
respond to me. Hell, he writes on Twitter all the
time under his real name, and it took so much
digging to find out who he really was. And he's
an author, and every time I respond to every tweet, Well,
you ever interested in doing this? Would you already ask
him questions specific to what he was talking about to
(17:17):
try to move him in. Never responds, But that would
be the most amazing interview, I would be.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It would be the most amazing interview. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
He inspired I think a lot of generations of wheat growers.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It inspired to dream of what could be. Really he did,
and he was also talking about what was happening there,
and there was obviously some really that. You know. The
Hayes was pretty good, Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Shuff The Hayes stories were great because the first one
he talked about it, and then the second one he
talked to them, and the third one was about them
arguing and the Hayes brothers being pissed off and him
snapping back.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
In it and they had their little smoke off.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yes, yes they did.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
It's right. Someone that Hayes brothers called our aren't.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yes, aren't. Yeah, that's right. That shit was great. I
loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
We've done a whole show on him, trying to actually
like hope that he would like watch it and be
interested to do it, but he has. I don't know
if it was just being so disillusioned with cannabis by
the time he was done, or being a part of
that industry at the time, because it's just a it's
always like a microcosm of what it's become. So many shitheads.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Maybe when you're as famous as he is, whether we
think of it all he really is, you know, he
really is famous for the first one to do these
wonderful descriptors of what's going on.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, yeah, he writes politics now only good guard.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
If he's from he's from California, good luck. I don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
No, No, he's a New Yorker.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
He's a New york right, even worse.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Closer to you.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
You know, you understand that better. Yeah, you know, I
wish I wish you would. He would interview though, because
to hear how we described stuff, it really was like
you talked about it. It made you dream about like
what was out there, what you could find, what was
the potentials were in this cannabis.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
He knew about a lot of the really cool import
because really the friggin imports for yeah, really something.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
They had some amazing images of, Like I think it
was Dennis Perone in California. He has he had a
weeds shop or like a house that people would come
into and it was just bowls of all these different
imports of different flower at the time in the late seventies,
and it was crazy to.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
See there was some beautiful Mexican yeah bed stuff that
I actually had, things that I got so tripped out.
I wrote things down in the list form like I
did when when I took peyote and talked to Mescalito. Okay, yeah,
it's just you're just like, holy this is. And I
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had one where it was so good I could I
could smell it just as it was starting to flower
from like a mile away. Wow, I could smell a
particular turfen. It was like, oh, I can't believe it.
It was a still day. Of course, it was sunny,
but that was a wonderful That just shows the power
(20:22):
of that particular plant. Was that's crazy, but it never
flowered in time.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
What kind of plant was that one? Do you remember?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
It was a Mexican mex Some people had something. Really
They ended up with a big load of Mexican and
this was the top of it. And the guy who
was one of my friends around there was in with
him or something and he wasn't allowed to sell it.
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So I got a little bit and then smoked some
and then my friend came and it's gone all that.
It's okay. I got and didn't get it again, and
it was It's one of those one of those things
I'm sure everybody everybody really regrets. Same with that freaking
Cambodi and it's like, okay, you want to be nice
to someone or something rather anyway.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Now you mentioned you mentioned peote. Was that something you
were into during the same era.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Well, I took people had paote. I took we took some. Uh,
my friend's saying one of my other friends my friend there,
Uh not that friend, he's my longest friend. H him
and his wife took them. They got high. I didn't
we ate. I ate seven of them. We had to
eat them with jam because they made your stomach feel
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fuck up. They got high. I didn't get high at all.
I went to bed. I woke up. Oh, oh god,
another one of these things. The storm goes over and
goes the whole thing right over. My friend gets up
and everything, and I wake up like that, and I'm high.
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And then I see Mescalito going up and down on
my wall. He looked like Yosemite. Sam, here's this little
cartoon character, and there's all these stupid these little pod
uh cactus says and something. He's going up and down,
up and down, and then tell that fathy he's anyway.
I turned around and to release green. I guess they
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were cicados. They were all on the wall, and I
knew I had to remove them, so I took my
t shirt up and gently took them out. No, that's
not true. I didn't see Mescalito until after that. I
got something that told me I had to take them
out because they're on on the wall. I took them out,
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and when I came out there that's wild and he was.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
The other people with you seeing it or is it
just you?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
By they had gone back to they'd gone back to
no nobody. I don't. I don't know if my friend
remembers the no I think he remembers the mesallita bugs. Yeah,
that's so. But they went back to bed because they'd
already gone up and tripped and everything, and it was
like three o'clock in them in the morning. And I
remember psychically calling him a grotty individual. I don't know
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why I ever, and he looked at me and said, well,
I have some time tonight. I don't some time tonight,
but basically, don't push me. I don't remember nothing much
else happened, but I remember I had a quarter it's
reels of reels, uh tate box. It took it off,
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and I had the thing where you where you're right
about the tape and I wrote mescalito description. I still
got it's like twenty things basically what I just said.
But so I figured after that I didn't need to
take mescaline. I didn't need to take peyote anymore. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Did you ever experience or experiment with mushrooms?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah? Yeah, I took a lot in Columbia.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
When did you go to Columbia? Opeyan walked out. Oh,
we walked out to a kilometer twenty six You walked
twenty six kilometers. Well, there weren't any twenty six kilombs.
We went on the way back. I saw some. We
happened to see some that were a little over right.
I ate some, and then just when we almost got in,
we saw some more that were fresh. So I ate
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all them. That was all freshed. It was something I bet,
oh ye's out good. What kalidascopic hallucination on top of
kalida scophics hallucination. And we were at this penteon and
I had this little Supreme Nino recorder and I kept
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them playing, playing and playing. Next thing, you know, I
felt like I was playing stuff that came out of
the mountains and everything. But it was really the poor
woman who was I did it all night, you know,
kids and all that kind of crack. In the morning,
I was still doing it. Looked out the middle in
the and there, and there's the guy there. I guess
it's those things where you you chew this berry and
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let it fall on the on the he was letting it.
He's sitting on the he was really out of it.
He's been taking it all now. And this is a
very very rural town. Anyway, you sitting there and you
chew on these red berries and then you spit the
season or something he did. He didn't look like he
was very happy. He looked like like he was drunk,
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but not very happy. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
What did the red berries do?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
No, it's some sort of drug. It's not cat. It's
not cat. It's some one of those. It's one of
those things. I did know what it was a couple
of weeks ago when I saw it on YouTube. They're
talking about it from Africa. Anyway. I don't know, and
I don't think it was that. It was the alcohol
in the berries were sort of something. Yeah, very but
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got you maybe you got to really a good budget start.
And he was kind of getting marched out. But he
didn't look that. He was like, I feel like I'm
gonna puke or ship. He looked like he did it
all the time. Okay, yeah he was. He was chewing
very Rubby.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Got a permanent staining on the side of his mouth.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Yeah, quite possibly.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Yeah, so you got a bird, You got a bird.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, I got a budget. He's not. He may get
a he make him here, who knows.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I understand we got a cockatoo. I don't know if
you can hear him in the background, but he's a handful.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I don't know how you can't here.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
You really are, Yeah, I had one. They are, they
convey I've seen the Rule family sometimes.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yes, they do. They do.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
This guy, you've got to start on him early and.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Well this this is when we adopted. He's almost twenty
seven years old.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
So we rest they live forever.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
No dog, you'd still kill those guys, kill those birds.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
You can't.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
And you're our doctor all that wonder.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, if you keep him healthy, they will live for
for fucking ever.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
You're like, well, yeah, I can't. Yeah, my old lady
she uh does like wrapt or rehab and uh oh no,
all that stuff she does, all that. I mean, you know, Matt,
we rescue dogs, cat Yeah, yeah, possums. We just rescued
some possums the other night.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Oh are monsters possums? No? Come on, mean they hissed
it man, the dog. That's an o possum that we
have here.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I think, well, the same thing they Uh So the
other night I go out to check out the grow
in the garden and Lady Bird, my mast if she's
one hundred and thirty pounds. She runs out and grabs
this possum, and I ship you not. I thought that
the possum's head flew off, dude, because it was instant.
This thing goes flying. Well, I heard and it was
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she had shaken that mama and all the baby. It
was all babies, little bitty baby. No, and uh. We
left them out there for a little bit and the
mom never came back. So I went out there and
scooped them up, and the old lady she took them
to we. Like I said, we're always rescuing something around there. Yeah,
I love them.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
They they're cute. We did raccoons before. Some guy had
shot the mother with a pellett, and I raised raised
two of them. I had also had a rescue raccoon
and Nova Scotia went when I flew up to Nova
Scotia with my uh go go dance or extu go
go dance, her wife and music that we brought our raccoon.
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But it was a female and once you got mature,
holy that was a mean, that was meaning. So we
did get that one out in a while. But I
raised these other two and I kept them outside and
every two o'clock in the morning, they'd be crawling the
screen and I have to go and feed them pablem
And then we find they let them go, and they
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went away, and we had a Halloween party and people
were there and they said, Pooci's back anyway. They came
back and put the female was a normal size. Pooci
was the size of a freaking watchcot. And they came
and hung around. Then they left. We never saw him again,
but I thought, I just mean, my brothers trapped twelve
(29:25):
rockoons at our place in the last two weeks, So
you gotta get you got to get rid of those buggers.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Well you need to get them to put them to
work and give them a fucking job. Get them out
there protecting the garden. You know, you train them.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Oh they do that.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Yeah, what's the Nully always says it's older again or discord.
He's always says, back in the day, put fish hooks,
razor blades on his weed and all this ship keep
people believe it, yes, fishing sinkers to weigh his plants
(30:01):
down all his shop.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Fish needs to meet Danalli of everyone, because he's our
main fisherman buddy. Like he's.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, you know how he called himself optimist Prime.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh yeah, he's been on the show.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Yeah, okay, Well I talked to him every day. We
exchanged Walleye Walleye photos and everything like that. He does
float tu being and he he goes around and does
other stuff, I mean, issewhere and everything. Oh anyway, Yeah,
he really liked him.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
He's cool.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Him and his wife came visited us a couple of
years ago. Uh and uh, I took him fishing. That's awesome,
just like n c g A came up and visited
us a couple of times. Ron.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, I love Ron.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
And elk Slayer took elk Slayer went five hours out
of his out of his way to come and stay
overnight and everything is. I talked to him all the time.
We talked about fishing and tell him.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
We want him on the show. Hey, what's up everyone.
This is Matthew from Riot Seeds and Breaders syndicate it
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that before?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Everybody else does? It? Might as well right back to
our show.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Hey, Matt, you know it would be a good episode
to get cushy cushi Man, get mad jag and then uh,
I forgot the other guy. Were thinking about somebody else?
But get a few of.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
The older Optimus Prime would be good.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, I hang I hang up with mad jag on
our on the forum.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I love cool.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I just I cannot stop thinking about the petro glyphs. Okay,
oh yeah yeah, and we're watching one about this other
guy doing it and everything, but growing to weed in
the tenure just absolutely wonderful. I love that idea. But hey, trying.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And then with the capes, the dark capes out there
and stuff that was freaking cool the movie made.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Another cool thing was when he got uh the the
land on spec to try and sell to hippies and
stuff like that. Yes, great, Yeah, one.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Of his friends stole a helicopter to fly to the
the burgeoning cartel down there. Crazy crashed it right over
the border.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Oh yeah, and he had to talk about it, I know. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, he's he's something else. He still goes out and
like raves and parties.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Well he has his own party yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, he's invited everyone in the Discord to it. For
I really want to go out every year something happens.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
But I want to go all the wall wed and
food too, because a lot of the people there that
goes there, some of them are really good chef. Oh
I'm sure. Oh yeah, I don't know what i'd do though.
I just mean what I try and be not get
too hammered and all that. You just give up. You
(34:12):
just go there and shot fun, shut up and just
well it's all fun anyway. But oh you're just shut
up and just suck that out. You know.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
We we had we used to have parties yearly where
a bunch of us would come out, all the breeders
and stuff, and yeah, it was interesting. I'd be a
just sat there, tried to be a fly on the
wall and take everything in like different breeders that are
really respected.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I already told you how I already told you how
much I love uh Caleb's okay, yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's one of my best friends.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
On smiling God. I just love it.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
You should have You should have been there with the
little party we had with d Nali. We were all
balls of the log getting hammered.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Even Rob Clark was getting hammered.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
We were, we were. You gotta keep in mind, we
get there, the tornado, hits power goes out. We party
all night till four in the morning, get up at
six am and go small mouth fishing on Lake Saint
Clair for eight hours, come back, party all night, stay
up till four again, and then get up at six
again and do another eight hours all day.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
What are you doing? Tubes or drop God, no.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Drop shots on boats? Just back uh you know nice
bass boats. Doing a tour. Yeah, Denali and the guys
had paid these tour guys to take us out there.
So we were there was like ten of us. Uh,
you know, all weed heads and growers and ship.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And uh you went out to people's passboats.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yeah. It was fun. They're doing seventy or sixty five
on the water and getting high. They let us smoke
on the boats and I did.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
I did that for twenty years. It's great, dude.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, him and Denali would get along real well.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Denali always invites other fishermen to come come hang out.
It's a thing. He's like, they don't ever turn me down.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I don't know why he invited my ass. I think
he was trying to screw me or something.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
You know, I think so too.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
I don't know, you do look pretty with that long hair,
they said, saw me from the back, sit who looks
like a girl?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Cigarettes?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, no, that was a great That was a great trip, dude.
The parties are fun.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
It sounds terrific. A whole bunch of people going out
on bass boats, screaming, small mouths and like think Clara,
but you got.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
It, keeping in keeping mind worst screaming and cussing. And
I'm on the boat with one of the guys. He's
kind of redneck like I am. He's from Virginia. We're
hooping and hollering, laughing because this dude's doing like sixty
five and I'm trying to smoke a smoke a joint
and the other guys are racing along next to us,
and we're giving them the bird and hopping ship. And
I mean, still, there's so much better than that. You know,
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there's not much better living than that, being out on
the boat, hanging out with your friends, having a good time,
smoking weed, talking about weed.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I tried, I've tried to replace these things with other things.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
You know, No, no, maybe a woman kind of part time.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, you got it. You gotta say that's got that's
a yeah, you have to have that, or I have
to have that.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, it's a list.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
It's not a seventy split. I'm not sure which one
gets some more time. I don't don't let her hear that. Yeah, yeah,
But anyways, back to the league, guys, I'm sorry, I'm huh.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
So, what was the first first strain with a name
like that you that you read it to? That is
it like a regional name, But the first like named
by someone strain you read it to?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
The only regional one is the one that I felt it.
It was called Earl. Earl. Earl weighed three hundred and
fifty pounds and was famous for being able to go
and need one hundred eggs roll on the the you know,
Chinese food nights. Yes, and they called what, like I said, I,
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you had all kinds of weed, and I've talked about
stuff that was dutchweed and all that. But when this
was too obviously when Earle came in all the other
sales stuff, because Earl was really like baseball bat things,
I'm pretty sure that it was some sort of it
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tasted almost like tie, and it was a Northern Lights
five type thing, but I don't really know that much
about Northern Lights five. I had it and process and
all that, but it was really lots of lumber in it,
big leaves and everything like that, but it had a
real high to it rather than you know, Lethard two
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and stuff like that. It took longer to finish. And
that was the scary part because that was in the
nineties and it was it was iffy, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
What I was growing was in nineteen eighty eighty nine,
I went to the hydro shock. He gave me a number.
Phone this number, and asked for Neville. Okay, yeah, phone
and asked for Neville. This very polite guy came and talked,
and I was talking. I had just bought the the
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hash the west Coat hashplant cutting okay yeah, from someone
in Winnipeg, and I was talking to him about it,
and he said, oh, yeah, you mean it wants to
because I I wanted to get the hash plant seeds Okay, yeah,
I didn't nineteen but G thirteen and all that kind
of stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Anyway, he said it wants to go like a Vinus
type of Yeah, that's it. Anyway. So I heard some
of that, and I got the Durban. I also got
Hayes Northern Lights five, and I got some skunk number
one cross or something that was the most beautiful, crappy stuff.
I ever had. Yeah, and he gave me he got
and I got g thirteen and when I when the
(40:00):
cut packages came, it said, germ, this first, what a
fucking idiot.
Speaker 7 (40:05):
That's what I didn't do for three years. And that's
what I didn't do for three years. Refrigerated. Oh no, no,
they're I drew the hash plant.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
The first one is. They're pretty good, very buried and
all that kind of stuff was as good as the cutting.
Uh the durban. My safe addie guy. I never got
to meet him. His name was Billy. It was through
a friend of me that I knew. We got it
sent to him. So Billy said, I'm going to take
two or three seeds for them, thank you very much.
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He grew them, gave me the rest. I grew with
them and that. But he got one female and a
male and he bred it and sold me the seeds.
And that was the most wonderful bat For like five years,
people couldn't it just couldn't get enoughing. I didn't like it.
It tasted way too much like an east It was
just unbelieve. But every one of them looked like a
(40:59):
perfect freaking Christmas tree. Wow it was, and like it
was just it was. It was totally wonderful. But I
was also going indoor at the same time. I grew
his northern legs. Five there's males everything. I ended up
with two plants. They looked identical. I joined all my
other stuff, that eight week stuff. This took sixteenth week.
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They both looked the same. They bloody well killed themselves
with some kind of fuzzy brown resident and one of them,
I'm not. I mean, I've had idiots on the uh
on the forums laugh at me. I don't care. I'm
telling you. I was smoking Columbian at the time. I
was trimming weed and all that type. I took two
cokes and all of a sudden, I was in this
(41:41):
fucking bubble and it was like this fun house and
I done that like that. It was like times some
on on some little fun house, going through uh uh
the water. It was like going through the river sticks.
It was like I was going through hades, and I
can hear all kinds of crackling and clicking and everything.
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It didn't last, it didn't last too long, but it
was good. And then then the bag got mixed up
and someone told me how fucking incredible it was, and
I had this other bag and it was good. But
there we go another another long another thing that could
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have been I'd already I'd already crossed it to all
kinds of things too, but I got in. I'm gonna
just got gout. I got it. After years of drawing,
I got I did that and say, funk, what am
I gonna do? I'm gonna end up this sucking a
league one that. Yeah, that's half half reason they didn't have.
I got a doctor daughter, but I didn't have any
(42:46):
mark and just to worry about. I mean, I didn't socialized,
didn't do anything. I didn't anyway, I can't remember. I
was talking.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
You were talking about the NL five Hays and.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Yeah, no, it was some other it was some other
digressions anyway, it was uh it was. It was a
wonderful plant. And oh yeah, I crossed them to all
kinds of wonderful things back back then. And then after
doing it four or five ors this year as well,
I'm not starving to death, so I was I would
actually bother my You know how people's chips are always
(43:19):
on their bag to stop growing. Yeah, I never got that. Okay,
if i'd have just had some kind of incursion. Honey,
my chicks just so fucking wonderful. See, never do never
did that anyway. So in the end, I just one
time said called my friend, said okay, let's go. I
think my back was fucked to my back would end
(43:41):
up being fucked too because I was also a bee keeper.
We had two hundred bee highs. I'd be lifting these
frigging things, and like I always had a bad back too. Yeah,
I forgot anyway. I said, come on, Steve, come go up.
And I had a hundred of these northern lights all
ready to go, not ready, they're flowering out. I said,
(44:03):
rip them up. He said, you're sure to rip them up?
To rip them up? And I threw some of my
clones away and all that kind of stuff. I smoked
what I had for a few years that was broke. Yeah,
so that was like, okay, what that was? That was
noble of you? No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't anyway.
(44:24):
So it was just like, so I I did anything,
did you?
Speaker 1 (44:29):
Did you keep seeds of those all these years?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
Or you know, I've only got seeds since like nineteen
ninety eight. The other ones, I didn't know how to
keep them correctly. Yeah, it's not messed went through that.
I'm not messing up missing a whole lot of stuff
because it's like that. It's just like all these other
get wonderful sativas and only one of them, only one
(44:52):
of them, I like, out of all of them, you know.
So it's like plant dependent. Unless coach, you're growing commercially
or or just want to get whacked and stuff like that,
you can find it anywhere. Yeah, but if you if
you want to just go often, not be tired and
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
I had a question, uh, before we get too far along,
I didn't want to interrupt you a second.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Don't worry, I've already mightn't have to think that.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
It's okay. The first one, one of the first ones
you got. You were talking about the earl.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Yeah, earl. Yeah, well it would grow huge.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
I just wanted to ask before I forget, because I'm
stone myself and uh in Kentucky growing up years ago,
people would say, like when they went to go see
their guy or their dude or the plug, whatever you
want to call it, they would say, I'm gonna go,
uh see about getting some earl or my buddy earl?
Is that is that is that has anything to do
with that?
Speaker 3 (45:52):
You know, we know nothing about that. The guy who
said it was called the Big Northern like, okay, his
friends showkay with my neighbor down there, he did a
lot of He ended up doing a lot of stuff.
He never smoked weed, never did anything, but he did
a lot of stuff. And the Big Northern light. And
so I got a clone for ten dollars one time,
(46:13):
and I selfed it, and I've got seeds of it,
so a huge, beautiful yielding if anything is pure northern
the light, that sucker is.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Oh no, it's awesome. That's that's if I ever did nothing.
And like my best friend Steve coming with one seed
he got out of some afghany hatch oh nice and
hash bean. Yeah yeah, and it turned out to be
pretty well all sativa. But and and I self that
(46:46):
and and and got that off one planet. A lot
of them are just like, yeah, but you're killing the
gene pool. Yeah, but only got one bloody seed. Yeah, yeah,
I don't like breathing to that. But no, you can
get really good stuff, like let's see, what's say his name, Shah,
I got a Kim dog Kim Doug b X Kim
(47:10):
Dog Kim four b X one off him. Yeah, pretty well,
best fucking wed. I've got photos that I can show you.
It's just like you create. One person looked at it,
said the feedback came back. It shine with the light
of its own anyway, So that does show how a
b X can really can work. Yeah, but I personally,
(47:33):
I don't it scares me.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
The cam Floridas, no.
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Crossing and all that. At my age, just self it. Yeah,
let other people do whatever. Self it. Then you can
do stuff with it. But once you lose that, once
you lose the clone, it's not necessarily the same one.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
Yeah, it's a good way to put it. You were
talking about back cross is one that was really great
recently that I had was H and L's Kim dog
D back cross. That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (48:08):
Yeah, you could across to Mango Hates.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
Or this was that through Appalachia.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
It was a green crack green crack kim D like hybrid. Yeah,
it was awesome like that as the outcross.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
And Appalati is made of what.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
It's kim D. It's called trade Dog from j J
New York.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
Oh yeah, I've actually yeah, got seeds of that that
I bought from timont and and all that. It was great,
just like some of those star Fighter things off the
off the you know, off that that surfer guy that
was on that, uh, I on that other on that
other forum that I was on that that was it
(48:50):
was fun for a while. Some of the auctions were
the best things in the whole frigging world.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Which one which forum?
Speaker 3 (48:57):
It's the gun that everybody hates because they say, when
you ordered seeds, you didn't get what you want? Yeah, yeah, yep, yep,
you do. Got to do you do everything that guy
wanted to do, you got, you got everything. I cannot
tell you the brigging wonderful stuff I got off some
of those auctions, especially the Joe There's something something support auction.
(49:20):
Some of these.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
Things, huh Joe brand support auction, something like that.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Some guy got busted and oh what, I got a diesel,
you know, a diesel back to and asked, well, anyway,
it was, it's awesome, awesome, I got some wonderful.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
I did everything he said, and you still ripped me
off for nine hundred. He was he was a motherfucker
and he.
Speaker 3 (49:43):
Got a lot of people somehow everything I I I
ordered came through some people.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
That did, some people that did. It was just depended
on the week day.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
And if you liked you, you're a likable guy.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Man. No, I have no idea whether you're like or not.
Good luck.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
That was a loftail. I'm telling you, it's crazy, dude.
Speaker 4 (50:08):
How if someone does like you and we the let's
look after you, bro. I can't say how much you guys, Matt,
the can I Illuminati guys H and L big Ern
and a couple other guys have taken good care of me,
especially you, Matt.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
Thank you. I love you. In the last year when
I went since I went back to Icy Meg because
of our stupid five pms and crap, I went back
to Icy mag Country. It's a very nice place. Gypsy's
areas are pleasant, all that kind of stuff. The people
that either knew me a long time or any rate
(50:42):
justin wonderful, generous people who said, I think you might
like this. So I've got more genetics than brain cells
like everyone, but I bet, but these things are just
so enticing that you have to say yes. So it
was just so wonderful. And the ones with some of
those Mango hazes as I want to try it. Like
(51:04):
I said, it's taking a long time, it's a late one,
but I'm really I'm pumped.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
Were you on mister nice during the Neville era when
he put came back in.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
The in the eighties and in the seventies, nobody did it.
Nobody did it. Nobody. It was like when you remember
when CDs came out. It was like and if you
had if you had a studio type of this thing,
you just take them, put on a CD, put anything.
It was like voodoo. So for a while, if you
(51:35):
had homegrown weed, it was like voodoo.
Speaker 4 (51:38):
Well there was another wave though, if you were in
the rural area like us, you were so isolated till
the Internet came right and a lot of the guys
coming up they were growing weed, they were doing other
shit too, so either they died or got arrested, So
a lot of that knowledge and stuff would die or
go with them. So like it wasn't till like late nineties,
(51:59):
mid two thousand, in late two thous early ten, you know, uh,
like two thousand and eight before we started to see
good weeds. So for a while we got to experience
that kind of feeling because we went from brick seed
Mexican brick weed, because then, dude, it was so sketchy
to grow for us. Everybody tail on you. It's like
the few people I knew that grew, the few people
(52:20):
that I knew would grow there, you couldn't tell nobody,
so you just kept to yourself. But I understand what
you're saying about that. That was the first time I
seen good weed with no seeds in it. I was like, Wow,
it was granddaddy purp So it's purple and all the
ship is the first time I seen purple weed.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
But I mean we lived. We lived in crazy, I
lived in the swamp. Was just basically nothing except for
like I said, Doug, these people that I knew that
somehow got three hundred pounds of Mexican up and I
got to have a bag of the stuff that I'm
still that I'm still talking about. Can not die. Is
(52:56):
that big country and don't play flat and some is hilly.
Entry got got a place where there ain't nobody most
of the time. It's just a big deep freez. Got
manganese and we got lots of trees. We chew up
the land for the industry, got to make money, just
(53:16):
like everybody see in Canada in Kana Kanna, can Nada,
in Kanna Kanda, Cannada, in Canada, in Canna. That's one
of my song called in Canada. In Canada, we used
(53:38):
to worship the beaver, a large furry rodent with a
long flat tail. Versus was a railway. Then it was
the gold Rush. Then it was the prophecy of Mackenzie
King's dog in Canada.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
In Canada, I'm gonna insert I think right right here
when I do the stuff, because we're going to talk
about it. The Cushy song. I want people to hear it.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
It's about it. It's about when there was a corn field.
It was go get over the cornfield, had a long
ways to go to the ditch. Crawl through the ditch.
You were in heaven. Okay, yes, Well the place got
sold and the guy plowed it up and went long
there and things are fine. I went and did my
(54:28):
planting and next thing you know, they come up and
the four by four go through the ditch and start
walking around there. And yeah, it was it was like
waking up in the morning hearing the the clanking of
the back hoe digging things and all that and went out,
went out there and they didn't see because they weren't
that big anyway. And I moved the cushy in the
(54:51):
dark and the dom.
Speaker 1 (54:56):
That's a great song, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
Just musically it just turned out not what.
Speaker 8 (56:05):
Pops in SUNNYA.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Some of my own.
Speaker 8 (56:12):
You know you can't feel tudy present when the coola.
Speaker 9 (56:16):
Outromeus man say, al to man can like.
Speaker 8 (56:25):
Keep you dancing when you walk in a very tight
keep you dancing when you walk in a very tight.
Speaker 10 (56:35):
Worldushkeep you dancing when you walk in a very tight work,
very tight work, very tight work, very tight word, very
t work, very tiger, very tight wad, very black.
Speaker 11 (56:56):
Woman come out got don't look that pushy in the
dark handy talking about Charley one.
Speaker 8 (57:04):
Let's take that do it then not take that jock
hand him?
Speaker 3 (57:08):
What a way.
Speaker 12 (57:12):
Lundy cushion man said, lundy cushion man, say pushy.
Speaker 13 (57:18):
Man, say pushy man, say pushy man.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
Put backs in Samni.
Speaker 14 (58:09):
Some of my own.
Speaker 8 (58:13):
You know you can't fit on the presence when the
cola a broad push she coushi man say out the
man can't fly to keep you dancing when you walk
in the bear tight world. Keep you dancing when you.
Speaker 3 (58:35):
Walk in the bear tight world, Keep.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
You dancing when you walk in a bear a.
Speaker 13 (58:43):
Type work, very type work, very type work, very type.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
Work, very.
Speaker 11 (58:51):
Very title work, very tight word, very tight work.
Speaker 14 (58:57):
That's mad, come out, und got.
Speaker 8 (59:01):
To move that cush in the dark and the dog
only jolly, I'll take that. Do'n not take that truck
on them walk.
Speaker 12 (59:10):
Away Undy Kushiman center Runny PUSHI MANSI PUSHI man sway
PUSHI man said pushima due pushimas.
Speaker 3 (59:39):
Well. The doc home man come and I got to go.
Speaker 8 (59:46):
Wake up the money.
Speaker 14 (59:48):
He had the crank in the clanking.
Speaker 3 (59:50):
Oh yeah it did metal monster, you know. And it's
moving hot over the groun.
Speaker 11 (01:00:05):
Okay, Dory gott it, Cushine cam Knuda, Nory gott it,
Cushine cam Knagga, norm we gott it Cushine cam knocker, Nory, Catty,
(01:00:25):
Cuchine can nadery.
Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Aye.
Speaker 15 (01:00:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 14 (01:00:51):
Not let down, I'm not touch up finger on the
pushy pushing, mixing up the posting Lena putty dollars.
Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Round yea.
Speaker 9 (01:01:05):
I yah yeah yeah yeah yeah yah yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:01:08):
Let sunrise, let this sun fall.
Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
Let that know be.
Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
Don't join them by don jo jo bye did.
Speaker 15 (01:01:27):
You rust her far right, not in the way, not
in the way, not in the way that you would say,
oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 9 (01:01:44):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
And the cushion man said m hm.
Speaker 9 (01:02:35):
Yah h yeah yeah yah yah yeah yeah yeah you're
not yet now I'm jumping.
Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 14 (01:02:50):
Chupping on a cushy cushting mixing up the boss Steeler
putting by yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:02:59):
Ye aye yeah yeah yeah yeah yah yea.
Speaker 8 (01:03:02):
Let the sun rise, let this soundful, Let that mob
be duty by.
Speaker 15 (01:03:18):
Joh by penal roster of far ride.
Speaker 9 (01:03:24):
Not into way, not in the way, not in the
way that you say, yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yah
yeah okay y yeah yeah yeah n.
Speaker 8 (01:03:49):
S when I make you in the money.
Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
And what do I see.
Speaker 8 (01:03:59):
See the big man do that?
Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
S yes, coming right up about me.
Speaker 8 (01:04:05):
I'm the kid's study.
Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Cracks in the door.
Speaker 9 (01:04:09):
I see them get up of the for battle.
Speaker 8 (01:04:12):
I see them walking all around a pushure trint not
pushing on the door.
Speaker 9 (01:04:22):
I yeah yea, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (01:04:28):
I'm a pushy manswer.
Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Won't you bring it to me?
Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
Right by my win, won't you bring it to me?
Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Back by my window?
Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
Won't you bring it to me right by my win?
What can bring it to me back back?
Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
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