Kushyman Takes it back - Talks NLD / Sativas & Introduction of Afghani & MORE - Breeders Syndicate 3.0

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Speaker 5 (01:31):
When we got to Columbian.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
It came from people who were cop kicks, and they
were so far ahead of everybody. I believe they were
the one who brought Indica and all that kind. I
believe they were the one who had that Indica, that
one that's like five.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
The brotherhood of each ourtal love is all.

Speaker 5 (01:52):
Part of that anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
So I would hear about I hear about things like
that and what they would say, Uh, after they would
do their prayers, they come over and they say I
got some weed some cook.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
And they would always say is it cush?

Speaker 6 (02:09):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (02:10):
So that must have been the real stuff.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
Is it cook? And they also do about forcing flowers
and stuff like like that. So one time we're listening
to a Bob Marley album and I'm looking at the
back and you're talking about, Yeah, I wanted to give
the respect to country man, which had meant countryman.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
I said, no, man, I'm on cushy man. So I
just started saying that.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
So that's awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
It was funny anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
And and you like Sativas though, man.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Yeah, I found out after, you know, but I mean
the real in the India and all that.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, it seemed to modernize the whole indoor growing.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
Scene and anything you say, if it's a hybrid, it's
not even then.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Even then, you know.

Speaker 6 (03:02):
But it's like.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
A lot of people like that. A lot of people
don't like it.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
What what was the first year you started to see
Indicas come around?

Speaker 6 (03:12):
Was it the seventy nineteen seventy eight or seventy nine? Yeah,
it's when it when it came over from from there
and we got seasoned Aguda in nineteen seventy nine, and
there was all different, all different. There's just so many
different variations within the those guys sure hadn't messed up
to Jean Pool. It was everything was in there. Well.

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I remember one guy coming one time and at a
party and he was the guy that got to see
from h and it smelled like I don't know a
pick anyone in counter wouldn't know the black. It has
a black Pakistani or something. It had a classic smell
that that's the black, that's the This weed smelled like

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the black and there's like two or three seeds.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
And this other guy had it, and.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
I knew he'd kill it, okay, so he ended up
with it in April. He stuck it under his seed
and there was gone, and I might have got it.
We still have it.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
That sucks.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
It sucked. He was an asshole.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I remember Vancouver Island used to put out stuff across
to the black or black Burmese and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
This wasn't permiras. This was just some black Pakistani. The
not the absolute best hatch in the world, but it
was good and it was totally memorable every time you
smell it, because, like I said, that's all people. It
was really hard to get weed until the came around.
I'm just showing off my bitterness because of the odd
seed and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
But I'm telling you who TV teeth.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
I can't remember his name before anyway, he gave me
these nine Cuban black haze seeds about eight years ago
or something. He said, I don't even care if you
sell it. Just make sure you reproduce it and.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
Hang on to it.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
But it's not then to me. And then find something
I'm good And then one I had either I destroyed
the cloner. It wasn't as good as as I thought.
And I get these other ones to be beautiful, yielding,
smelled good, gets really high, but had too much sedation,
so would end up throwing them away. But I did
find one this year that I'm in love with, and
I'm selfing it and it's got some Okay, when sedation

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is tolerable, I'll call it relaxation, okay. But uh, And
and the thing of finding speedweed, I don't even know
can didn't find that stuff any yeah, or it may
be rare or something. But even Hazel got so much
bloody sedation generally. But I've got a friends going through
Tom Hill's hundred pack and stuff like that, and he's

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gonna do love. Tom Hill says, just go through there,
look for the most residents one, the latest flowering, the
longest flowering one, go through a go for the smell
and stuff like that, hang on to a hum and
then pare it down and yeah, he says, maybe you'll
find the peacock. The windows one. Well, my friend doesn't
want the peacock of the windows one, but I do

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if any if I need by.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Oh my god, that's the kind of weed that I
sunk one does as to me every time. I don't
know why, Like my my brain chemistry is so weird
that anything was sunk one in it, even if it's.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Not potent, it'll make me parental every time. I always
know I stuck was heavy and something.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
So I don't even need like a long flowering ins
TeV to get that.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Just skunk one anything, We'll do it.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
That Hanel's electric mango haze. Man, I feel like that's
racy weed. Like I said, even Rob Clark, me and
him both were like, man, we.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
Couldn't even go to sleep.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
We tried to lay down.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Oh I like that idea though.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
We couldn't even go to sleep.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Dude, I'm.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Freaking out.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
That's good to have it on end, though, I mean,
you don't want that right what you for it? And
happy to?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Oh yeah, dude. I mean you gotta imagine we're in
a party setting. We're not drinking, we're literally just smoking.
I mean, you gotta think it's h and l uh.
There's a bunch of other guys you probably don't know,
but they had you know, Banded Hayes, Electric Mango hayeses.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't know a ton of jars, dude. I'm talking like,
you know enough. So we're smoking all this stuff, right,
So it's hard to really say exactly, but I know
for sure the electric Mango Hayese and the band aid
Haze we were smoking on dude. Me and both Rob
Clark both were like man because he went and lay
down and I went and laid down. Right, this is
four o'clock in the morning. We got get up at

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six the fish and we both got back up like
thirty minutes later. We're like, let's go smoke something else
because I couldn't sleep. But he was like, I got
move moving picture movies in my eyelids when.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
We are good. Yeah. It was Yeah, things in a
fact pieces differently, I guess, like I said I had,
the band has cutting and though it's a formidable, beautiful
resin powerful long flower hybrid it's got, it just doesn't

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have the happiness in euphoria that I needed.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
I get that from Blueberry, Like that's the only thing
that really does it to me.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
The happiness anti.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
I've hardly had any blueberry. Way back, I had a blueberry.
It wasn't very strong, but it was euphoria hilaration.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
So if that was it was kind of dry.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
So if it was actually a real resinous version of that,
it would be brig in heaven.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'll send you some.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
You can try it. Yeah, I'm supposed to be.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
I'm growing stuff called old times O T one one
guy on one Guy got hold of me and said,
you have to smoke this. He showed me if the
big frigging beautiful thing ot one cross it to uh
an early pre internet blueberry too. Uh, I'm trying to

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thank of some African stream stream.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Uh smile.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
Fucking stone. Uh anyway to Nigerian Okay, And I don't know,
maybe it wasn't anyway across to Nigerian. He said. It's so,
I'm really really excited. I took cuttings of it. I'm
waiting for the males. I got the f dudes. Most
of them were tall, which obviously reverts back to the

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tativa part, which I'm I'm fine with. But I found
the short one with the league and I'm I'm uh.
During clones of that I really hope it is. What
is he because he said he grows uh hazes and everything.
He said, this is just absolutely packed. It's just anomenally.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
It's something so fast, so fat, so early.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
I can get your hammered like that. So we'll see.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yes, I really liked the rest of the old time.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
And he was also a bee keeper. Oh no, I
think he did queens for the Royal Garden or something
like that. So and so really that really resonates with me.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
Bees are really something. Yeah, and you do get down
the fun out of it.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, Oh my god.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I couldn't take it. One time.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
I had to do the guy, the guy that brought
up with bringing in honey, we got together. We we
we brought be high together. Well he never even he
and all that, and then he off for a while
and getting in trouble.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
So tell us about did you ever seed any of
the canine?

Speaker 6 (11:07):
No we don't, we don't at all. No, no, but
I ended up having to do do five tons by
my by my, by myself when he fun because he
was oh yeah we had one. Oh god. We were
told we had to move twenty five to be high

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when they were like three high and weighed like one
hundred and two hundred pounds easily, and some of my
b equipment said re Queen nineteen thirty seven. So you
imagine how new they were and how good they were.
So we had to move it because they were going
to be strings Steven okay on it as dead for
b anyway, So we went, but we have to do

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have to.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
Put the screening over them, screening on.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
The top, on the top, come back in the evening,
litsten them over, get down the ratchet, and then when
they come and take them off the break up. Oh god,
I got so like it was just a critic. I
remember lying in lying into the back, feeling like I
didn't hit the head with everything, but this my friend,
he fucked up. And but there you're fucking be too,

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suck up. And I had to do it for I
didn't like for like, I don't know, fifteen hours of
the day all I would do is on cap on
cap cap, and it was a beat. I mean, I'd
have this filter the queens stuck into the bees up
and it didn't kill them. So when I get there
and get it up, I had and let time out
and stuff like that. It was well, it was wonderful,

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it was spiritual. I love it and everything, but it
was really heavy and hard and all that hard work
and I waited, you know, I basically waited the same
all my life and around one hundred and forty five. Yeah, yeah,
it was fun. It was wonderful at times. But they're

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very volatile and I did end up getting uh more allergic.
Guys went on so and and and the instance of
America and uh American and uh, I'm gonna leave it.
It's probably the end of the college. Okay, wait for

(13:25):
them to do it would probably be the sad anyway,
can't you see I'm doing an interview.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Make jokes every week about what is it going to
be this week? It's always something when you're trying to
make a podcast.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Like but come on, mak you he's not. It's seasonal,
he's not. But they're there.

Speaker 6 (13:49):
But it's like most of the time beyond my finger
and we get there.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
We had this little language take each other.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
But guy, this cockatoo bro, he's hor alone right now too,
and he's aggressive, but he and him saying we dance together.
If he doesn't get his dance routines every morning. He uh,
he's he's not happy.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
He what about your chart?

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Because I know that they can be terror you know,
they can be like an a gray or something.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
We won't there right, this is uh, I forget what
This is one of the smaller white ones with the
peach uh kind of top. I forget the specific kind.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Of They are just not a cock heal though, is it?

Speaker 6 (14:31):
No?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
They've got think better.

Speaker 6 (14:34):
They're not in a cocky too.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
It's white, yeah, yeah, not cocky too.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
But he uh, he's great. He's not really territor like that,
but he The one thing he goes and he goes
after bro is the you know, like a plastic pots
to grow in.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
He loves that.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
He chooses a ship.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
Out of I guess you haven't when you if you're
really bond with him, that it is a whole.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
He likes, he likes He likes me more than her.
She adopted him, but he likes me more than her.
He wants to dance with me and hang out, and
he talks to me and everything. He says all kinds
of stuff.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah, my brother and his wife had an African grave
for nine nineteen years and it was you liked her, okay,
but it was his beru. Yeah, he was crazy about him.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
And we've rescued a lot of like wild birds too, man,
and uh, we.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
Do a lot of that. Yeah, I get that's really awesome.
I love it, dude.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
You know God, God's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well, you said, I can't. I can't. Just you know
when you find stuff like that, especially nature, you know,
growing up, my grandfather and him were more Uh they
would say, you know, put it out of its misery.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
But a lot of it makes sense, but not all.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, but I just can't do when you're owned and
you look at something anymore. Nowadays, I don't even kill
a fucking spider, dude, I'll I'll just I'll look at them,
not my friends or nothing like that, like that hippie ship.
But I think, well, you know, as long as I
bite me and they're killing bugs together, you.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Know, we're cool.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Man.

Speaker 6 (16:18):
We're hanging out with the spiders. I raised and loved raccoons,
thatmquirrel good. All right, All I don't but I mean
I don't have a I don't have a I don't
have a web, I understand, dude.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Back in Uh, Kentucky County.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I never shot one with the dude. I probably would nowadays,
just because they kill everything we got. Man, they kill
all the dogs they kill. I looked up one day
our neighbor's horse had gotten out, and uh, I was
just sitting there with them. I look up on the
heel and there's like five of them watching me and
the stores, and I was, they're big out there, dude,
and they'll attacking them. I've seen him chase down full

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grown gear broad in broad daylight. So it's uh, yeah,
it's county school. No predators where we're at.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
You know. I just don't like, from my end everything
in your building.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
I don't run.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
I don't run over then the highway. Yeah, but when
does the world in your host it's not at your
own dude, Okay, don't anything with the raccoons. You a
pretty good deal, because I just got going to ruin
your whole house.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Yeah yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Also a little coming in there and over our hotel.
We use go somewhere. I got my pay paper cord
and and everything stut getting my raccocoon and then the
place where I have my grow there. But they don't
get in or anything.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Like you to walk out in your finished I can't send.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
They climbing up beneathing your Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
Got twice a year, I have to do it, and
lots of the times the car and the next.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Year, fuck yeah the fuck now.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
They did love beating fresh sets. They love beatings.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Last year I made a bunch of I just did
a little chuck fucking around, you know, and I was
let them drive my closet, just moved up here and
uh man, like a dumb mass. I had them all
next to each other, and overnight a mouse got in there.
I ate almost all of them, the ones that were less.
They're all mixed together, and I just like, I can't
even do nothing with each I don't even know what

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the fuck they are anymore.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
Always something I want to freaking stars for.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
I'm freaking that roding.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
Like they just both get their crops and then the
rats come and eat it all.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I've had them like pair of troop down from like
thirteen feet up, dropped down from a ceiling and be
totally fine.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Come and they just nibble the Even on the big planch,
they just girdled.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
The girdled it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
Water, yes, killed all of.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Them, all of them.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
I came in.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I was on a murdering spree after that with a hammer.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
And how many how many months you've worked on those?

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Oh my god? I never I don't.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
I don't kill animals ever, even if it's nice, I
would always I would always catch and release those ones.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
I got glue trapped and a hammer bro that too much?

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Well, yeah, like those seeds. I waited two and af months,
three months whatever for this process. Do not too went
on killing spree. Yeah, I said, I gotta get rid
of these mice.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Dude, How did they drop from thirteen feet up and be?

Speaker 6 (19:45):
Okay? Assholes? Anything?

Speaker 3 (19:48):
That wild?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I caught one on the side of the house and
I got it with a shovel and threw it and
tried to flee it over.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
The neighbor's fence because he was a dickhead. And I
sort of got the thing caught on the stuckle on
the side that they could climb straight up stucco. They
could do crazy ship.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well, you know, normally cats are cats back home would
do the job, but here they're so it's crazy. We
went from Kentucky. There was birds, a couple of squirrels
and molds and a few mice up here the Michigan
there's so many trees that there's so many squirrels. There's
three four different kinds. There's a little ground squirrels. There's
all kinds of different birds, woodpeckers, blue jay's, cardinals, they're

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all kinds shit. So every day we got six cats,
and I tell her all the time, we are destroying
the wildlife here with these fucking cats.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
When the kid used to be my favorite, now they're
my leading favorite. And that's why. Okay, and you know
what I think, cat locker.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
They don't do.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
They don't do our only do just about when they're
about to die, they go and catch a chipmunk. Ok yeah,
you're alive.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
They offer every morning I go downstairs and there's an
offering down there for me.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
But once again, once again, all these animals are all
adopted animals. They're all rescues.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
So you know, you.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Gotta some other asshole out there got these animals and
brought them. You know what it is, people say every
year every year with chickens, adopt chickens because Easter time, right,
got fuckers go buy chickens. And then dock Ling and
Kobe was bad dude, because everybody had time. So everybody

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down here have had chip, went out and bought chicken.
Yeah all yeah, now that's word buddy.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
You can't you know.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
They slaughtered all my chickens up here.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Uh, there's just too much wildlife up here. I got
too left out of fifteen that I brought it up.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
The cop on. I forgot that she went in and
killed all our laying hands. What the we called it?

Speaker 6 (22:06):
The cops they took her to the cart. We weren't there.
One of our friends too, took her. You have to
be there, you can do anyway. They had evidence. She
had to pay for the birds, and we got to
keep We got heat the dead laying hand. But oh
she was what a nast person?

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (22:27):
What the one time I saw her getting mad at
her son and she was chasing him with the gallant
jug of jab.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
And trying to throw it at him.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
That sounds that chases me around the gallant jug of oil.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
That's not.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Stay away from seed oils anyway.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, yeah, just I'm trying to tell jan Ally, but
he don't.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Listen, you know, Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Where were we at?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Tangents, brothers, So cannabis, let's get into like.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
Like the Okay, recently, recently I was given uh. And
then I started people asking asking on the internet for
clones and stuff like that. Uh. Just people that I've
known on the websites before, and some guy who's father
used to grow it and all that kind. Uh.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
The crin co clone clone my friend who basically saved
himself by using cannabis suppositories. Okay, he made it and
saved his fring himself. So he doesn't and he doesn't
say i'mcurity, says I'm in remixion.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
So he has to do it every frigging day. He
does it and don't run. Asked to duck your ass
and stuff like that. Uh, he said. And his late
friend had this clone and he knew one person who
had it, so he said, if I send it to you,
will you do it and give me a call. So
I did it, and I kept it and I'm making

(24:08):
I made s ones of it, and he killed Unfortunately,
he wrecked the he wrecked the planet.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
I gave him.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Thankful I still had one. How can you kill a
plant with safer soap? I don't know. I get it's
not it had it had thrips and he's not stupid.
He's done it before, but somehow he killed the plant
with safer soap anyway, So yeah, there's that. There's not
there wasn't much. There wasn't much else. We're not on

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the West Coach where they have all those ones. There
was the Urban after I, after I ran out of
these seas, I had taken some of the seeds, made
a reproduction that looked like it. It smelled like it.
It didn't get you as high until I threw them

(24:55):
all away. Yeah, said, I don't want to I don't
want to have the memory of that. So someone gave
me a Durban Clone. Well I kind of didn't know
it was the late Durban Clone. Okay, so and we
got it was like Thanksgiving. It was October eighth, in
the middle of a rain storm, that still hardly flowered
and all that I had to get it. We to

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trim it a million times to get to anything. But
that was really that didn't smell like uh, that didn't
smell like an eee. Okay, that was pretty good. That
was a pretty good bud. I wouldn't mind having that
clone again. Maybe it is the Sincy Sweet Swap Club.
I've been given three different durbines.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
I'm pretty sure it's one of them.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
I just didn't get to growing them this winter when
I grew the thirty varieties of all that stuff. But
it's just other than that, it was there was no
I don't know any others for.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Maybe there's some new people watching that that don't know
what Anie smells like. Maybe you could.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Licorice, black licorice, yeah, black liquors and it tastes.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
Like so strong.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
There was people say, I can't get I got that.
You get this the sent seed the sensy bit seed
bank thing and doesn't taste liquory. Well, I'm telling you.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
When we got nineteen eighty nine out.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
The problem is is that since he isn't even owned
by the same company and they have all made Spain,
so none of the stuff.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
Okay though, Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
That was a year I was born.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
When eighty nine, that was the that was the year
I started semi pro bass fishing.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
That's cool, man.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Yeah, eighty nine.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
Was most was one of the most wonderful time to
be born. You've got it guy from you gotta come
something sparkling in there, because a wonderful year.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
It really did. I tell and maybe maybe I'm two
mo own horn. I'm just super stone. But I say
that all. I say that all the time. That growing
up in the nineties and on the verge of the internet,
not being raised on that ship and going outside and
being a kid, and then being a teenager and being
able to adapt to the new ship. Though it was,

(27:11):
it was the best time for me to be born.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
Our parents would kick us out after suffer, say, don't
come home killed dar. I got a photo, I can
send it. When I was like four or five years old.
I'm not kidding. I'm black. Okay, I'm black. Because they
just totally got all over the all over the place,
and I looked anyway. So they just sent you outside.

(27:36):
And I remember my sister, they made uh like a
corral for her to be out all the time, and
they had to have a little attacked because she would
she would get two years to three to get over
tup into you're running down the street. But you didn't
worry about it.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
No, you left doors unlocked.

Speaker 6 (27:56):
Never.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Never.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, even when I was a kid, it was like
that still, man, But yeah, nowadays is I don't know
if I'd want to do all that. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, I like that they built a corral for your sister.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
That was funny.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
The cow or well, well, you know when you raised
you know, I had two younger brothers, so we all
a year apart, so I understand completely. And half the
time we were so poor and didn't have central air in
Kentucky that it was nicer to be outside in the
middle of fucking summer it was so hot. But he
had just running around, playing in the woods and the
creeks and catching turtles.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
And I was the oldest of eleven.

Speaker 6 (28:34):
Oh well, yeah, we lived in Nova Scotia too, and
for a while when we sold our house in like
nineteen sixty in my show, moved down and my father
became a fisherman. We bought a house and seventy acres
that got bought a boat, and I don't know, they
sold the host for ten thousand dollars, So the seventy

(28:55):
acres and the hosts, I don't know, thirty five hundred dollars.

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Or something, and the boat. The cape on the boat
was like seventeen hundred.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
Did that for a while my mother started going nuts
because she was from a trial and ostracized that at
the end of the point, but oh, my god, I
missed that friggin place. It was just you're out there
in the besides the fact bug with a one hundred
million dollars.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
But it's it's not that.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
It was just that my heart was there so wonderful
going out there and you'd meet your friends out at
their house and you'd be walking around and they weren't
street lights, weren't anything. You go find some place somewhere
who had a little shack that was a store and
buy some liver loaf and balgey and potato chips and
eat bat while you're practicing kissing on the other guys,

(29:40):
the sisters and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Oh yeah, it was beautiful.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
And Bob Bob sledding down down on you know, on
places and if you if you went off, you went
off into the Martian Mountains and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (29:55):
It was yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:56):
Uh, these ones where you go like the mother and
everything waiting at the end when the bus comes to
take the kids. Nobody could go and get on in devices. Yeah, yes, dude, Yeah, Hey,
what's up everyone.

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Speaker 6 (31:28):
Why not everybody else does? It might as well?

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Right back to our show.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Right, sad man, Hey, there's no We're just talking about
this all the night. No sense of urgency, no efficiency,
no manners.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
No.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I mean, people don't even analogy anymore. It's these younger generations.
It's sad, dude. I I won't rant, but it's just
I thought my generation was gonna be bad, but these
newer ones are really bad.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
I've got a twenty year old grand time.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
I agree.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
I he's terrific. He's terrific. I hope he picked it
up from his grandpa and his grandma. For sure. He's
a wonderful, polite boy. They're not at all like that.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Nos comes back to parenting, dude.

Speaker 6 (32:14):
You know, it's just.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Anyways, we're all funny. We do this. Every time Matt
gets me on the show. I'll get stoned and we
get talking about crazy shit. He'll keep it on the wat.

Speaker 6 (32:26):
Yeah, you know, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
See people tune in to listen to weed, and a
lot of times I'll get high and fucking tuck all
kinds of wild.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
Ship smoke smoking Santa Marta uto in in Rodo Darrow,
which very good down there right at our house burn
down in nineteen seventy five, and in nineteen seventy seven
we moved some place we have now we don't just
not here. We went down to Jamaica and Columbia. We

(32:56):
had seven hundred dollars in the plane tickets and we
went for seven weeks, including getting pick pocket and stuff
like that. Went to Jamaica.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
They didn't have any lamb spread.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
We went to see went into grill that had the
seventies with the music was really was really good then,
and you would.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
Go go see cool Moron.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
He's really cool. So we went and got weed from
him and then went along there.

Speaker 5 (33:25):
And some guy come here, No.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Not them. There were steal steal, steal that joke, Give
me me go down there. There was a steal that joke.
And then we went to Columbia. Went to Columbia for
six weeks or seven weeks. Then I tried to smoke
weed wherever I wherever I could, and Santa Marta was

(33:50):
probably the best weed. I did find a place in
Vedia where I went back, and just the places I
went where I can't believe it, just you just just
walking there. I didn't I didn't know much. Dunde Pokito
and then get that I had some weak that I
could stick to the wall. It was it maybe it

(34:10):
was Columbian red. It was pretty good, but it was sedating,
whereas the Santa Martist stuff. You just smoke it and
just it was like the camboat and just stand there
for like or just.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Sit there for hours.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
Tripping. Yeah, and we we I wanted to go fishing.
A bought my collapse of about fishing. We wanted to
go fishing up in Lago Coacha, which is up in
Pasto on down towards Ecuador or something, because I had
seen it where someone caught these big brown trout. Well

(34:44):
we didn't really get there big, but we ended up
at Lago Coach. But on the way they were supposed
to stop where you see these stupid where the Olympics were.
Why you'd want to go there? Why we want to
go there? So we went there. There was nothing there,
but I got this little green poona. It was some fringing,

(35:06):
terrific weeds, our little green seedless, but I'm telling you
it was worth it. And I just walked there and
see something from a hooker. I think Bandy got to
Bandy Peto, who stead Bandy patro Yo down there, so.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
She brought me back, honest, wonderful people.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
Yeah, as long as they didn't think you were American.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, hookers and weeds.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
It's gotta be worse now thinking of an American probably today,
I don't know we we We're I think America is
on an O fly list now.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
I love I went. I'm going to America. I loved
the Americans. I love the Americans. We went.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
I went to across the border free fishing for Uhurnament
Tournament and on the Lake Champlain. Okay, so laid back,
wonderful people, and I did. I did an album in
nineteen eighty one down and Eve in Tampa. Wonderful. Smoke

(36:14):
some good weed there. But we went up north further
and I am telling you, I felt like I was
on speed. These people were so laid back. They made
the spear anyway. It was amazing. They were just so
relaxed and laid back.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Are you talking about Tampa, Florida?

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Yeah, this is north Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Oh yeah, dude. I spent a lot of time down
in like Deston and Pensacola and Fort Walton and a
few places in the Panhandle that were oh man, people
make fun of Florida, but.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
This is in Inland. We went fishing and my friend
brought his canoe and all that. But we stopped at
this little place that had pictures of bath on the
But I'm telling you, no kidding. I felt like I
was speedy. They were so laid back, that's awesome. So
they talked about all these hyperds. No, and Canadians can

(37:05):
be much more hyper than American I'm killing you. I
don't know if you know about bass fishing. Hank Parker
was a basket prow and all that, and he said,
you know something, I like Canadians.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
Okay, but they can be dog gone pushy.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
They really can.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Okay, if they're by New York, I can see that
New York people are very pushy.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Oh yeah, but that New York City people gotta be pushy.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I think the whole East Coast is like that personally,
like the New England area.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
It's a very similar person.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
You got around Tune and Klan.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
The fisherman. They're pretty laid back.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah, yep, Well you have to have more laid back personalities.
Sit there eight hours not catch anything.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Oh these people, No, these guys are commercial guys.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
But yeah, okay, Well, in the country, you're growing up
where I'm from. It's that's the way of everybody's laid back,
nobody's in a hurry.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
I watched a lot of YouTube cheff fo Kentucky and
all that kind of stuff. First of all, they probably
the best weed in the world for a while back
back there, when no one even knew it.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
They had good reputations for it.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Shout out Kentucky, uh, Kentucky tarrott weed and all that.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
I only ever heard about it.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, Kentucky Bluegrass.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
There was a fake one that went around for a while,
but it was just an earthicle hybrid and.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
They said, oh, this is the original Kentucky blue Grass original.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Love it, but I would like to see the original,
you know what they had back then, like the cornerbread
mafia type people.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
Yeah, there's a good documentary about that.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
I think it's called Square Groopers that talks about all
that stuff.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
I think I've seen it. I mean square groupers, man,
I thought that was Columbi and bail. What it meant
smuggling smuggling by boat, Hey, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
It would It would be when they drop into the water.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
They'd call them square the veils in the water and
would be square groups and they because they don't.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Have to go fish them up.

Speaker 6 (39:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, but that documentary become of the Brotherhood of Eternal Love,
the Coptics, the Corner Read and Mafia a little bit,
all kinds of.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Stuff about that machine from sitting recently here on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, yeah, they'd be they'd be interesting guys to cover.
But you know, someone who just got out of the
prison recently, like the former Red of Mafia guys, but yeah,
very inconsistent with their stories and and like who they
associated with. If they were just looking at the makes
of the money when they got out of the president
it just whatever.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
It could be whatever as one of as you got money. Yeah, yeah,
it was too bad because like they have very stories
and stuff. But you know, I guess.

Speaker 6 (39:46):
You're yeah the corn Red Mafia fell apart or something. Yeah,
it do lack of abstracted.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
And yeah yeah, and then the snitching and then pe
people in to prison for a long time and over.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Stuff and get out.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I mean, I guess you're an older age and you
don't have work anything worse.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
Here's one thing that really breaks me up the amount
of my long online buddies that I know that have
done fucking time I bet you guys in the in
the United States, Okay, not so much.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Here's hardly anyone here there.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
I just and like, you see these things about these
humble people, and they this guy was true and everything
he did five years, he did six years.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
They do that.

Speaker 6 (40:31):
You get this ticket and it's because it was under
the federal thing.

Speaker 5 (40:35):
Then they come back a.

Speaker 6 (40:35):
Year later and you're fuck, they'd have the whole thing. Yeah,
grow up, I adjusted about I don't cry over any
anything hardly. I always cried over that. It was just
so said, the waste of lives of wonderful people who
were advancing farming.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, you know, and they always portray it in our
by our government. They always portray like these are bad
cartel members. They're they're gangsters, be mom and pops, like
just making it for in the hills, and this.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Is what they have. This is how they make it.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
It was a culture and they go up there bus
people have them try to turn on each other by
having these draconian.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Like you're getting to get twenty five years if we.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
Don't tell on this, yeah you don't roll.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, And then sometimes the people would do say no,
go fuck yourself, you know, I'm shutting up. And they
ended up doing six months. You know, but they throw
the big numbers at people and try to scare them.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
We got watch that. I don't when there. I don't
that Mary and Peterson Talow going through ham Old and
all those places and interviewing people. But besides that, I
got I got that part that and it didn't seem
to be that bitter. I guess you don't want to
hang on your bitterness when you get rum their life,

(41:49):
Ian kids, growing out for the women with your kids
and all that, and then them saying, well, now, yeah,
it's yeah, it is, that's it.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
That's well we know all about that here.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
I mean growing up in the eighties and hallew you
know halle yoh okay, the rest of it. It was
like when you could got to twenty twelve, y twenty forty,
it's fuck yeah yeah here.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
They they really portrayed it to California. We had a
Probo fifteen, real famous. Then they put out Props sixty
four and guys there's guys at the totom McCormick and others.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
They went public life. You have to vote for this.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
It'll legalize marijuana, and it totally was not. It was
making it more legal for corporations to grow, more legal
to buy, but more illegal.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
For everyone else to grow. So it was going to
crash the market with crap.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Is what I voted for for fucking Trudeau.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
Okay, yeah, because he voted because he's going to legalized week.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
What could be wrong about it? Well, a few things.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
Yeah, yeah, as well as trying to get legal and
do it right, you know, to provide something. Uh, they
got all kinds of people together to have a little
thing honest about all the things.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Darren d Man, Darren, he was there, he was there,
He went there. They all talked about they all gave
input and everything like that, and then they use absolutely
none of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
They have people other people that do the buying of
seeds or like they put the seeds on the market.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
What's a lot to be bought or stranger on the market.
They don't even smoke.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
It's just a member of the government or someone working
in that federal type system.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
It's fucking nuts that the only one's picking what's grown.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
It's happening. It's happened there.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
It crawled over from and I heard someone on YouTube
the other night saying, sounds good, but what three pounds?

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Yeah? Who can who.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Could afford to grow for that?

Speaker 1 (44:03):
It doesn't make any sense unless you have a massive,
massive place and you're not using you.

Speaker 6 (44:09):
Can see absolute acres and acres of these giants, just
totally amazing.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, that would be cool to see, but I've seen
a lot of it here especially.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
Yeah, and they have.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Market here was real big for a while, seeing that
it was.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
All run by people that weren't weed people again, and
it was just absolute trash. They throw the weed out
on the ground with a bunch of like what do
they called.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
The spiky heads that we have here, go heads.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
They throw it out on the straight in the dirt,
stack it up and throw it and crate stack it up,
not even dry stack it up. It'll be moldy, but
we don't care because they just buy biomass anyways, and
they're gonna make bait pins out of it.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
You know, it's horrible to see. Horrible.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
Okay, I'm sorry I brought it up there.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
Okay, And now well it is what it is, a good.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Thing, like, the good thing.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
Is that you don't hear about bus for weed anymore.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
You do hear still people still get busted here all
the time for whed.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
And we don't hear it much up here.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
In Oregon.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
The seeds are still a felony in Oregon. Yeah, if
you're selling seeds, that's still a felony if you're not
licensed properly, and to get licensed properly costs money and
you have to turn your name in andto all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
So it's a it's a fine line.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
Yeah, sure, yeah, it's a fine line. And you're right,
the fine line if you if you have to.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Yeah, but yeah, you know, I mean, it's it.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Also. The other thing it did was was traditional farmers
in the traditional market where a lot of us come from.
The people that stayed are the people that tended to
love it, you know, or at least you have to
have a love for it now because you're not going
to be making hand over fist in the market, right,
you know what I mean, So you have to be
doing it for the love of it, or maybe.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
You've got a good market.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
In your statement, it ain't over here in California, like
Humbles turning into a ghost town or Kel's turning into
a ghost town.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
Here, you can grow far in your garden and get
a lot and do quite well. And in the end,
I guess that probably was. There's probably nothing wrong with that.
And maybe it's a little selfish to think about legalization
how it wrecked people who are making a living or

(46:36):
part of a living off of it, so that all
the other people could maybe grow in their garden or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
But how do you how do you?

Speaker 5 (46:45):
I don't know, plans, You know, you're on your lives.

Speaker 6 (46:48):
Unless you have a medical license, like a personal medical
license where you can go twenty five, ten, fifty, two hundred,
depending what you have, you can legally grow four plants
per household.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
And just like what I think about is breeding in
terms of breeding, in terms of keeping keeping ship.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
They don't they don't talk about that legally. They don't
even hardly want to talk about seeds even now. Yeah,
but you just do what you do and and uh,
it's pretty laps and people are going enough with one
plant that they could smoke for for years.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yeah, I mean, but for four to six plants, as
far as in terms of keeping the genetics going, keeping diverse,
it can't happen.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
So you're killing a whole part of the market. In
itself or folding it up, and.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
You're going if you're going to s ones or have
a clone.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
I mean, but again, so you could do s ones
with four plants, but you're you're narrow. You're already narrowing.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
It by making s ones, right, so your four plants,
then you'll narrow it again the next time you need
seeds narrow.

Speaker 6 (48:00):
If you have a lot of If you have a
lot of seeds, four plants can last one hundred, you know,
a thousand years.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
They got to love what you got.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
Well, if you've got four if you've got four thousand seeds,
you can actually hold it in your almost in your
hand and that, Yeah, that was a thousand years. So
you don't really have to worry about the jump gene
pool for a millennium.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
True, yeah, I mean, if you did it, if you were.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Geared for that, if you were already living that way,
you know you could do it, which.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
You can do.

Speaker 6 (48:31):
You can also be doing that. But no, I understand
what you're saying. But there's people all over the world,
and then there's probably people that are just legally allowed
to do it or something. But I'm not worried. I
am I don't I'm not worried about the gene gene pool.
The gene pool, I mean, gene po has never really

(48:55):
been better unless, of course, I mean as far as
having lots of different kinds the weed to smoke, whether
you whether you want to smoke, the modern stuff, who knows.
But there's also old stuff if you can, you can
find it.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
If you're if you're smart enough to know the niche
market who has what? Otherwise you'll get soldanigans for sure.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
You have to be dialed in to get niche stuff.

Speaker 6 (49:19):
Yeah, I guess if you're interested in it. If you're
if you're now interested, you don't really know where.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, it's hard to navigate.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Like everybody that's new that I talked to trying to
come in that hits me up about seeds, and you know,
most of the time they're hitting me up, they've been
involved for five or six years already trying to dig
through the bullshit.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
And like you know, the the.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Dutch companies that are white labeling Spanish seeds and they're
not getting what they're paying for.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
I think it's about exciting time genetically ever, and especially
with the t even you know, there's a bunch of
people that are so doing such. The stuff you jet
is just like friggin it's really something. And I'm sure
if that stuff had been grown outdoors in some other

(50:10):
country and came here, Wow.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
It's essentially a different point of view than I have.
But if you're coming from a whole different era, so what.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
You're seeing in it like the exciting genetics and genetics
talk about it.

Speaker 6 (50:28):
Let's just say Dubby is and is Destroyers and stuff
like that.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Man that is ship hot stuff.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah that is good.

Speaker 6 (50:37):
I smoke the high THC polyhybrids. I kind of feel
some sort of something happening and doing something to me.
But I don't mean you get of anything. Yeah, I
mean I might if you throw a whole lot of
plants to that. I did find one of jelly cicle
a long time that the first joint got me so

(50:59):
long that or smoking or yeah like that, but the
fact joint didn't work. You know something that really is
really good and all that. But there is really good, right,

(51:19):
but it depends.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
But take knowledge to get there. There's no one new
to buying season.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
It's like, hey, I want to I want to make
some destroyers stuff because nobody knows about that unless you're
really niche and into the stuff.

Speaker 6 (51:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Well, I think what you're doing that is so important
because I'm more on the side of positive because you know,
being somewhere in a rural place like Kentucky and not
having access to cuts and uh crew and genetics or
any real history other than people flipping.

Speaker 6 (51:49):
In bags and stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
So like if you you probably don't notice it because
you are that person or the group for a lot
of people, like younger guys like us or myself that
I'm coming in.

Speaker 6 (51:59):
I don't no ship.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I like I said, I don't have a background in
the industry. I'm just some dude from the roll sticks.
They want to grow better weed and find out the
history and find.

Speaker 6 (52:07):
Out every stuff.

Speaker 5 (52:09):
Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
But my point is is, I think what you're doing
is so good for guys like us, sorry and girls,
because it does give us a point to start at
least to explore. And I think I'm walking proof and
evidence of your the whole mission you started off. Maybe
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
I don't think it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
My point of view probably is a lot skewed too,
because like I think, like, okay, Destroyer, I love Destroyer.
I think it's rad but as a seed maker, there's
no way in hell I can feed anyone by destroyer.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
Yeah, and a niche market.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
I'm only talking like I can remember what good Mexican was, like, yeah,
I can keep on buying or like this one, I
the person got it down there, you know what I like?

Speaker 5 (52:59):
So on no work to look for it.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
They've got a unique point of view because a lot
of us guys weren't around for good Mexican.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
We were around for really compressed Mexican. That really it
was never that great.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I mean I found stuff I liked, but it wasn't
like I was like then growing seeds of it that much.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Like It's just it was what it was.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
And like you said, there's no there's no Joe and
stuff and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
No, not in seeds anymore. But either no, yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Commercially viable for for people to be growing that as
far as like the wreck market year, it's too little,
it's not asked for, it looks different than what people expect.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
All that, it's a terrific time to be able to
find stuff that was like the best of what happened
in the in the seventies because people like those Auzie
guys there for all that trick well you know, all
that terrific. Yeah, and there's lots of lots of people

(54:05):
and a lot and on I Tam egg I taught
me talking about you know, this guy on Icy mag
he was you know, he had the Cambodian in Ottawa
at the same time. So it's just a wonderful we
could we talk about that. I mean, I'm sure I
probably never met him, but he's obviously pretty old like me.

(54:26):
And remember so one time it came through and it's
just that and bumping into people on uh on the
forums that new different weeds that you would had, you.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Know, and Matt before I forget not too long ago,
when I was visiting in a rick store, there was
a girl in there. She knows me. She said, where
do you know? Have you ever heard of something called
space Queen? Can you believe that?

Speaker 6 (54:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Can you believe that?

Speaker 5 (55:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yes, Vic high Strain and then it's cool really not
reallyvent Re introduced it to the market, you know, fifteen
years later.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
So it was just interesting to me that there are
people even you know, I don't know. I thought that
was interesting because nowadays, especially in my everybody just scared
about the shrubs.

Speaker 6 (55:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Oh yeah, I know, like nowadays, Space Queen is nuts.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
I was like, the cut is probably somewhere else in.

Speaker 6 (55:28):
Washington or yeah, I don't know, but you see, Yeah,
there's Space Queen, there's Space Queen. You know. The the
first ones were really really good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, with the with the actual romulant in it and
stuff like that. Yeah, there's been reproductions done. But Vick
Kai was a very special person at.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
The time guy as far as he was very curious.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
About what he did eligible scientifically about what he was doing.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Yeah, and he found really interesting.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah he did.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
He was he was ahead of his time.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
And again another guy was a round Day.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
It's hard arcast that I interview because uh, this is.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
I can't ask me a million questions, you know, you eventually.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
Get me on there.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Matt with Tom Hill. Yeah he likes me for some reason.

Speaker 6 (56:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
He does, like, uh, I was ending the overthrow and.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Real yeah, yeah, that's wherehere the non v.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Oh yeah, man, I'm meant to run in there and
grab the kim dog. The kim dog can't we can't
show plants.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
So yeah, I know, when you talk about the Vietnam Black,
do you remember who brought that to the equation As
far as like who brought that online originally?

Speaker 3 (57:07):
I always forget the dude's name, Wasn't.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
The guy called himself a Non.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
That's right, Non. Non's Vietnam Black, that's right.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Ann.

Speaker 6 (57:16):
And I talked to a guy who worked with him,
who was on on ic mag up until a few
months ago, and then he got hassled by some some
some anyway, he got hassled and nuts that he must
he's got kids and stuff like that that he went offline.
But his name I can't remember his name either. But

(57:40):
and then the next one that came out because he
must have got it before CBF. Okay, he was called.
He quickly made f made seeds out him. They were
almost or he came out with him. And then Anne said, well,
see here you're putting out. I'm gonna put out the well.

(58:00):
I bought at both of them on most fifty dollars.
The other other was three hundred dollars.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Yeah. Was it non three hundred or was it yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Because it was not an auction, yeah, yeah, And I remember, uh,
my first introduction to it was Billy Go his reproduction
of I Think in Non's I think, yeah, not sure.
And then later on my buddy Canorato reproduced him again,
and I remember, I get some of those to high
and loansome.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
He made a hybrid with them.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Yeah, I just I just grew some.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
It's actually got as good as stuff I've had off
of it anyway. It's got a very good high and
wonderful taste. Not quite as long lasting as like the
Colombians Colombians, but it's it's I'm really happy with it.

(58:51):
But I don't know. I don't know if I will
hang on to the clone because they've got lots of
seeds of it, and and you it's not I only
want to hang on to clones that I have to
hang on to because I've got too many already, right,
and taking new ones in case this like in case

(59:12):
this old times, I mean this old time sounds like something.
It's like, why am I gonna bother with any of this?
Have this ship?

Speaker 5 (59:19):
Yeah, we'll just we'll just grow this.

Speaker 6 (59:21):
And and the fat one, I'm telling you, it's got
big frigging, big frigging long canister buds and everything, and yeah,
it's got it's trippy and are euphoric and I have
no he's convinced me.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
So I've grown a lot of blueberry and there is
there is very uphoric stuff, and it it's none.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
None of it's very.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Potent as far as like fuck you up or anything
like that, but it's it's it's a real quality.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
There's a lot, but there's a lot of levels in
between between that pert and fuck you up. I fucked
you up might be good because the third time you
smoke it, it might not.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
But yeah, it's very true blueberry.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Like I said, I had it once where really gave
me the fourialy exhilaration, but it didn't last longer if
there wasn't that much resin there kind of dry and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Our blues are full of resin.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, Matt's
is frosty, really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Very blue, very erry smelling like it's true to the
blueberry terms. But it's a short, little afghany like. Yeah,
I didn't work it towards like any narrow leaf stuff.
I crossed it to other like blue Satellite.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
I crossed it to blue satellite just to maintain the
blueberry turfs. But maybe a more narrow leaf profile on it,
but still it's so Afghany dominant.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
But looking at that, most people would think Afghany dominants
can have a really down type.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
It is going to be too narcotic, not gonna like it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
It's the opposite of that to me, like just euphoria
and I love it. It's and then Blue dreams out
here and if you it's got a bad reputation because
there's a lot of bad grows of it that made
it like cardboard that but.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Yeah, to me, it had an icy fork.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
It's already high a lot of a lot of people,
so that I don't care. A good Blue Dream is
really good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
I got I got a bunch of pot crosses going
right now, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Yeah, it crosses to the whole Blue Dream cut. It's
it's I love that cut.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
I think it's cool that you're doing stuff with blueberry okay,
and that you have really really been immersed into that,
and one would think something's got to come out of
it by selection and all that, So that pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
It got very lucky too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
There's a lot in it and having to narrow it
down over time and other people with.

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
The Lone Star.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
It all worked it before me, and so I'm just
continuing that what they'd already done to establish where I
could take it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
It's phenomenal. I've had other blueberries just from like from
DJ straight.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
To me, and it just not I couldn't find in
it what I wanted, which is those extreme blue syrup
type turps, because they lead to the Every time that
I find those, I get the euphoric, happy, anti anxiety high,
which is what I always need out.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
Of Ye, there's not much. It's not that's three needs
something to be looking for. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
For me, anti anxiety is why I smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
When I smoke, and if it gives me anxiety, it's
like the opposite of what I want, and I don't
like that at all.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Totally different drug to me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Oh yeah yeah, Cushia man, Well, you got any advice
for the new growers coming up these days? All all
your years of experience, you know, do you got any tips,
any advice maybe for the new people that are just
starting off on their journey.

Speaker 6 (01:02:51):
Everybody seems to be growing everything really quite quite well.
It's just whether there may be weed out there. It
isn't like what you what they've been smoking, and.

Speaker 5 (01:03:07):
It's like all the.

Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
Legal places in Canada here people shit on the weed.
Now it's got high THC. It's really hot. Get your
stones and stuff like that. But I never want to
smoke more than a couple joints of it because it
doesn't it doesn't have the sparkle soul.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Yeah, I know what you mean, man, Yeah, soul right.

Speaker 6 (01:03:32):
And a lot of it is because once I once
I smell gas, I don't want to smell gas. I
don't want to smell fuel because it's all going to
it's going to give me the same, no knocking it.
If I had nothing and like it's wonderful, it's potent,
i'd have a good time. But if I have my brothers, yes,
I want something that's just like. I don't smoke till

(01:03:54):
like four o'clock or so anymore for like the last
twenty or thirty years because I want to don't want
to mess with my neuro receptors around. I don't know
dead time and all that, all that kind of stuff.
So all I can say is, I don't know if
you can. If you can ever get hold of really

(01:04:15):
good heirloom sativa, you might be surprised. That's different and
unless you're going for profit and then forget it, forget it.
But if you that's all I can say is that
because all I want to even of all the sativas,
I only want to smoke two or three little varieties

(01:04:36):
of ones of like a chosen one, because go get
what it gives you the particular mood altering characteristic that
that you want, which is so what People want to
smoke it to get angry. I don't think that they
want to smoke it to fall asleep. Oh yeah, it
helps my pain. Well maybe all I'm sorry. All I

(01:04:59):
know is we has never helped with my pain. It
makes me know where my pain hurts. Okay, yeah, I
like it, So I don't go for go for that
to go to sleep.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
Yeah, you can do stuff to policy.

Speaker 6 (01:05:10):
But I want to smoke something to make me active, hope,
hopefully active, happy.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Smart and euphoric and you know, horny too of course. Yeah, yeah,
it has its.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Time right right, And I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:28):
I don't know this. Oh I don't want to get
the monkeys.

Speaker 6 (01:05:31):
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
I don't get the monkeys anymore. Maybe it says I'm old.
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:05:35):
I still eat like crazy and all that. But I
remember in the old days, me and my friends would
be what we'd have to do. We had a Jersey
cow and you know jersey cow they got even in
the winter, it was fifty five percent cream. Okay, so
we don't get the Shreddy's and put put cream on it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
You go, so good.

Speaker 6 (01:05:57):
Now I don't have to. I don't get the monkeys
or thing like that. So that's kind of interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
The Mexican brick that we used to get in the
nineties and early two thousands, that ship would make me
like get beans and pour cheese on it and fucking
dump am in it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:14):
And yeah, but I'm smoking stuff like that and not
doing it gonna be So I think it's I think.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
It's a man. What about like an idiot?

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
So what about when you do edibles? Because I noticed
recently one I've been doing a lot of edibles that
makes me super much eat out dude, so bad. Yeah,
try that, I'm doing heavy Yet I'm doing heavy edibles. Yeah,
I'm doing a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
You know, got over there. I've tried.

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
I made edibleth I've made out of both for you know,
dying my dying relatives and had had been wonderful for
their life and everything. But one time I had one
of them that made me feel really ready, up and perky,
where the other ones never make me feel up and perky.
I get hammered and I'm sleepyoned and all that. It's

(01:07:05):
really good and all that. But if I only knew
what this was, I could conceivably just eat pills like
like that and feel the same way.

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
You know, it was wonderful, edible.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Have you ever had had to take you to hell?

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
Edibles?

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:07:23):
Have you ever had to Hell.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
And back then there and back in the heaven too?

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Yeah, it's a weird. It's a weird experience I've had.

Speaker 6 (01:07:34):
I've had it where when someone was talking to you, Yeah,
and then I couldn't get off the floor.

Speaker 5 (01:07:44):
I Betther came up from Nova.

Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
Scotia and I made some uh wheat jermed brownies with
chemo okay, and it was a chemo plant with a
really good shaped anyway, ate some and it's okay, don't much,
of course.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
But Jason's so good. And he said, come on, come
on down, come on down. You're only going to be
here for a week.

Speaker 6 (01:08:09):
He crawled up and he said I come down, except
I feel like and.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
It was it was really bad there. I got a phone,
we got a phone call.

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
I couldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I was on the floor.

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
I down here, you're you're holding onto the floor. Yeah,
edibles is really something melt out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
See the way you just talk about weed and the
effects that you want, I'm I'm chasing the opposite because
I don't know if it's ADHD had too much caffeine what.
But my brain is racing and I have too much energy, So.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
I congratulations, I drink pilt to coffee too. Okay, But
but I'm telling you no, no, if you do, you
need different You need different things for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Need that sedatively man that they I want to feel like.
I need to be on the floor because it calms
me down and let's me it's eating is.

Speaker 6 (01:09:07):
Really good for that.

Speaker 8 (01:09:08):
Eh.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Yeah. My brother's also mixing uh, those funny little mushrooms
with it too, the ones that don't get high but
do something to her. Oh something like that all lions made, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:24):
Lions mad.

Speaker 6 (01:09:25):
Yeah that was one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Yeah, I got Oh, anyways, mushrooms a whole nother thing.

Speaker 6 (01:09:33):
And then the other thing is that I can't believe
I did every I started in nineteen seventy eight. I
had my first hydroponics bubbler kind of little thing with
a and we had to buy a street light to
fight ta get a battle of howls and stuff like that.
Nineteen threw lambs bread not good when you're trying to
twelve twelve and it really wants the leven. So anyway,

(01:09:56):
enough of that with that, did drip through rock, wull
slabs and right, and then lava rock, the crusty buckets,
time recirculating W D W C and all that, and
then top feed cocoa and stuff like that. I can't
believe how easy or gan it is. And the thing is,

(01:10:18):
like I said, I've got worm castings, okay, like a
quarter of it worm casting, and uh, maybe this is
a bail of chromag maybe a bag and a bag
of that hen pellet mix it up and if you've got.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
Other stuff that will give it fast.

Speaker 6 (01:10:33):
Like I also had high phosphorus uh seabirds born out.
Yeah it's not necessary, I guess, but it probably helps.

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
And I love people's recipes.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
I can't get half the stuff that you guys can
can get, but it was that easy of taking mixing
up and totally soaking it and letting it heat up
for two weeks when it was finished. That's all I
do is I just add water and if I'm smart,
you know sometimes some uh mono potassium phosphate or something
like that to see if it will work as some

(01:11:05):
sort of bloom booster or something that. Yeah, it's not
really necessary all. Once you do that, all you have
to do is give it water and it grew really good.
That's the only thing I always say, Uh, would I
have not done it if I show and showed me
that before? Probably not.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Hydroponics is fun.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 6 (01:11:23):
It's a blast. It grows really good to you get
those cool tubes and minute you got and you got
big friggin' you know, when everyone was growing trees. It
was wonderful, but it was really intensive. Had chillers.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
I had chill feel like a wizard mixing bottles potions.

Speaker 6 (01:11:41):
Like I said, I got too embarrassed with jugs and
I'd buy the new chits and mix it myself and
six part formula or something.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
Yeah, that's the way I've always done it, is mix it.

Speaker 6 (01:11:50):
But I I sticked.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
I'm really really simple with what I use as far
as even the bottles.

Speaker 6 (01:11:55):
Now, if it works and it's easy and it's no headache, yeah,
that's well, that's it's this organic. It's just no, it's
just easy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
This outdoor season, I'm I'm gonna do just organic, and
it's going to be a first.

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
I mean I can.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
I always say like I don't know organics or anything,
But now that I think about it, it's like, okay,
some blood mill fed real.

Speaker 5 (01:12:13):
You know, like I tried that.

Speaker 6 (01:12:16):
No, no, the skunks to dug it up outdoor, no
way by doing our organet, I'm good. I would. I
would get big bags of field fertilizer triple nineteen and
the one with the high potassium and.

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
Just go around before a rainstorm. And I never did.
I only I grew I grew it in.

Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
I go around with shovels and dig it no more
than eight inch just why maybe maybe eight or nine
inches deep. Just do it like that, put the thing
in that and go away. Because we we never had
to water it. But all that, we never had to
water it if we planted it in the right place
down by the swamp, and all that sometimes you got

(01:13:01):
if you if you bridged between the swamp and out
the swamp.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
You were always good. But if you're in the swamp, sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
A lot I'm scared of.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
I'm scared of like rats outdoors and ship if they
were coming indoors to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Eat my plants, what are they gonna do?

Speaker 5 (01:13:14):
And then there's more rats. There's more rats in your house.

Speaker 3 (01:13:18):
Oh that's so weird.

Speaker 5 (01:13:19):
Yeah, but we do. We had groundhog. They could be
bas and dear deer will chew it right down there,
I think.

Speaker 6 (01:13:28):
But you just gotta plan enough, plan enough, have them
kind of hidden by the grass to get there and
then do something and pray.

Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
What's that old saying?

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
One for the deer, one for the police, and one
for or whatever, one for you. Yeah, well you get you?
Uh do you want to fly me out on the
credit card? Company credit card?

Speaker 6 (01:13:52):
I'll sit out there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
I'll sit out there with the bb gun at nighttown.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Yeah, I think something, maybe something a little louder. Yeah,
everything off the thieves and the popes.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
You know what I worked for Man Mountain doing kim Dog.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
That's right, Mountain doing kim Dog.

Speaker 6 (01:14:07):
This well do it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:09):
It's five twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Yeah, yeah, yes, we are.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
We are far in And is there any other questions?
That we want to get to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
You got anything else for us, cushy, anything you want.

Speaker 6 (01:14:21):
To about, notof here.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
It could have gone it could have gone worse.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Bro Oh, that's all. It's been a pleasure having you on.

Speaker 6 (01:14:35):
And look, I like I told Matthew, I like the
vibe of you guys and everything. I don't give it.
I don't give her crap about the latest, but I
don't care.

Speaker 5 (01:14:45):
I've got all content I've tried.

Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
Growing their things was fun, all those uh Gary Payton's
a nice, beautiful, perfect but it's like, no, I just like.

Speaker 5 (01:14:56):
Hearing you talking about stop you know, I don't. I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
I don't, you know, and hold it and some of
the people you get on. Okay, I don't know if
you said, uh it, I liked I saw a j Okay,
the guy in New York City, that guy not I
loved it. I loved his vibe. Okay, I loved it.

(01:15:22):
I loved his vibe almost as as I loved Calebs
and stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
With stuff like that, do you mean the same as
I know?

Speaker 6 (01:15:29):
Yeah, the sour diesel guy, yes, oh yeah, telling that
he was just telling the story of growing it and
all that kind of stuff. It was terrific, and he
did it in a really just a matter of fact,
wonderful way where he did a common acrost like uh,
a real high energy.

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
New York City. Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:15:53):
Now the guy who's really good, uh piff Guy, Piff Coast. Okay, Yeah,
he's a young, nice, light guy, generous. Okay, Yeah, I
like him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
I do like him a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
He's very very nice.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
I don't necessarily agree with him on what piff is.
And he came later and asked me what piff was
when he first showed up.

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
Okay, I like him.

Speaker 6 (01:16:19):
He's done a few Cuban black Hayes, to be quite honest,
in the in this Cuban black Haye s one that
I have that was from a don one. You know,
it came to him to the other and it was
the same one. Yeah, and it was the same one
that came to the anyway, never mind, there's some anyway anyway. Uh.

(01:16:43):
The taste of it is like one of the piff
ones crosses, because uh, piff Coach, as far as I know,
he crosses everything. Blue dream Okay, yeah. Uh. I tasted
the one that I grabbed and said, this is the
greatest thing. And then either it didn't become the greater thing.
I think somehow I fucked the clone or something like

(01:17:05):
like that. I don't know if you get Russet creams
that wound the clone. But the taste I had, I
tasted this Cuban black hae one, the one, the same
one that ended up making well band aid. Yeah, the
same one, because he had the same one. Just it
was delicious. But other than that, yeah, I don't know.

(01:17:25):
I never had piff when I was I never had piff.
You know, I'm in New York City or.

Speaker 5 (01:17:31):
I got lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
They had a buddy there that was doing security guard
stuff for the Dominicans and they were the ones growing
the piff and they gave me seeds of it and
said it here, sell it pure, will kill you, and
but you can hybridize it to anything you want. I'm like, okay,
well these guys are Dominican gangster guy. I think I'm
gonna probably listen to them, you know, listen to them, and.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
And made some stuff with it. It was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
But I got to learn what they considered piff, and
it was there's two different things.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
There's a main It was what when you will We.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Could think of his mango hayes today, very cardy mango
hay you know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
And then there was this it was frankincense, and if
you're a Catholic.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
We do go for the Frankie's.

Speaker 6 (01:18:13):
We call that Frankie is also arm pit body odors smell.

Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
I really, that's one of my favorite things right right now.
It's gotta have. It's gotta smell like dirty Jim sucks.

Speaker 6 (01:18:26):
Body odor is aren't good, but in a weird kind
of spicy thing because that gives the high. That gives
one of the highs that I really like.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Yeah, Ken d is very like calatosis and gym socks
and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Monkey Kimbo.

Speaker 6 (01:18:44):
Yeah, Verry one of my friends just just all he
wants to smoke is the dog. Yeah, I'm just looking.
I'm just looking forward to getting fuck up on the dog.
I don't smoke, I talk even He called it harshly,
but you got to smoke the dog. Oh No, he was,

(01:19:08):
He's he's responsible. He was responsible for bringing He just
doesn't he does like cam dog like the dog. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
The dogs at a very afand bass almost all pure.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
But kind of the perky.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
It's lanky. N One was a little lanky, but it's
got just a little pushing on it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
I mean that it's not really overlease of the dating.

Speaker 6 (01:19:36):
It's really Kennedy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Most people out there did, but one is very it
can't be very energy.

Speaker 6 (01:19:45):
Get interesting, Yeah, Kennedy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
I see people white out in front of me on
that's just you know, like falling asleep with their eyes open.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
You know, I'm excited to run. I'm both next to
each other.

Speaker 6 (01:20:01):
I'm comparing it to I'm gonna I think I'm gonna
compare it to like modern hybrids, would really do it?
Do that me?

Speaker 5 (01:20:09):
Word akeny, I will. I would get high for a while.

Speaker 6 (01:20:14):
Yeah, Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
He's never whitened me out. He's never done any of that.
He's never hit me too hard. But I've watched it
doing this to other people.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
My brain can't just really ago. I had a lot
of drugs, so is wired different than everybody else's.

Speaker 6 (01:20:29):
Chemo from one of the there was some medical patient.
I brought some and the woman smoked, and she could
smoke that it could I tamoil I made.

Speaker 5 (01:20:43):
I said, how many take this? Tell them I took
went you took you took?

Speaker 6 (01:20:48):
No? Shut up? Did it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
Anyway? We smoked one bag of the King, then the
second one.

Speaker 6 (01:20:58):
I'm not kidding you whit it out? I fall over, ye,
And then then if you're talking talking heard nothing later.
I then it got better than it got. I mean
it's going to be fine. And then when it wore,
when I wore off, I was gonna be wonderful. But yeah,

(01:21:20):
really white.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
It out, not like any flower I've always want under
the cold, cold sweat egg on the forehead.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Yeah, you remember what with the flower hemo smell like it.

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
Does sound kind of strange. Perfume garbage smell interesting. And
I never tried.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
I've never tried it, but I always heard about it.
And I remember seeing beings of the U s hemo
back when I was, you know, in the early day,
and I was like, yeah, I don't want my hair
to fall out, and I'm not gonna smoke this time. Lot.

Speaker 6 (01:21:57):
Well, Vigi would always say, uh, if I I smoke,
he said, camo winds and blind tests blind, he said,
but I'll be asleep and asleep.

Speaker 5 (01:22:11):
Yeah, I never talked to me. Just at that one
on Canada the World, right, I asked him for a question.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Yeah, it sounds like we.

Speaker 6 (01:22:21):
We loved it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
We loved it back I loved it back then, So
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:22:26):
Maybe it's maybe I get Maybe it's because I got
older and and I want to go back to my rooms.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
Yeah, the nostalgia of it all.

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
I need the I need the energy. You need to
feel happy.

Speaker 6 (01:22:37):
I need to feel funny and.

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
Laugh and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:22:41):
I don't smoke, weave when I'm fishing or any of
that stuff. I just decided too dangerous.

Speaker 6 (01:22:47):
I don't want to. I don't do it. I don't
want to mess with my neuro receptors. That's the thing
I watched. I smoked, you know, three three joints that
someone would laugh at, say a night or something. He
used to be two or something.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
But it's important. I've ruined my new receptors smoking dabs.

Speaker 6 (01:23:05):
And now if I smoke to you take but you
take a week off, your back to hallucinated. If I
took a week off and the stuff that I stroke,
I think it was the best, the best the world. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
Anyway, Uh, thank you very much, thank you for coming.

Speaker 6 (01:23:24):
Thank you very much, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
We're going to bring you back on with.

Speaker 5 (01:23:29):
Yeah, I just played the Coachy song.

Speaker 6 (01:23:31):
We're good.

Speaker 5 (01:23:31):
Oh yeah, you got it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:33):
That's an absolute pleasure.

Speaker 6 (01:23:34):
It's nice to meeting you.

Speaker 5 (01:23:35):
Coashy Man, Thank you calculator.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
YouTube, h.

Speaker 9 (01:24:44):
Gods Samnia.

Speaker 8 (01:24:46):
Some of my own.

Speaker 9 (01:24:50):
You know you can't feel tuning present when the.

Speaker 10 (01:24:53):
Color out round. She Man say, I Toman can like.

Speaker 9 (01:25:03):
You dancing when.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
You walk in a.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
Very tight.

Speaker 7 (01:25:11):
Dancing, when you walk in a very tight world. Pushy
you dancing when you walk in a.

Speaker 11 (01:25:19):
Very tight work, very tight work, very title work, very
tight word, very tare, very tiger, very tightware.

Speaker 6 (01:25:32):
Very.

Speaker 10 (01:25:34):
Baum.

Speaker 9 (01:25:35):
Tom got to move that pushy in the dark, handy doc.

Speaker 7 (01:25:41):
Only chay one aye, let take that to it.

Speaker 9 (01:25:44):
Then not take that chalk hand him no walk away.

Speaker 12 (01:25:50):
Lundy Kushiman said, Hanny Kushiman.

Speaker 13 (01:25:55):
Say push man sway, pushy man say pushy manpad.

Speaker 5 (01:26:45):
Sin Sammy.

Speaker 8 (01:26:47):
Got some of my own.

Speaker 7 (01:26:51):
You know you can't feel the presence when the color.

Speaker 10 (01:26:55):
A broad push she could she Man say.

Speaker 6 (01:27:01):
To man, can't fly.

Speaker 7 (01:27:04):
Keep you dancing when you walk in the bear tight world.
Keep you dancing when you walk in the bear a
tight worlds you dancing when you walk in a bear
a type work, very type work, very type.

Speaker 11 (01:27:25):
Work, very tight world, very worle very type work, very
tight workle very work.

Speaker 7 (01:27:35):
That's who Matt com.

Speaker 14 (01:27:39):
Got to move that cushy in the dark in the
don't only joy I take that to them, not take that.

Speaker 10 (01:27:46):
Chuck on them to walk away.

Speaker 13 (01:27:51):
Undy Cushi man center, Lenny cushion man sent PUSHI man
swing PUSHI masu shima.

Speaker 8 (01:28:01):
Dude, Well did back home? Man come.

Speaker 5 (01:28:21):
And I got to go.

Speaker 10 (01:28:24):
Wake up bend the morning.

Speaker 8 (01:28:26):
Hi.

Speaker 9 (01:28:27):
He had the crank in the clanking.

Speaker 5 (01:28:29):
Yeah, it didn't matter. The monster, you know, and it's
moving all over the ground.

Speaker 10 (01:28:50):
Okay, Nor we.

Speaker 12 (01:28:53):
Got the cushy cam nada nor we got it. Cushy
cam nada, Nor got it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Cushine can you.

Speaker 9 (01:29:03):
Know we got the cuchine can dollar.

Speaker 14 (01:29:19):
Yea, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
I'm not letting down to.

Speaker 12 (01:29:33):
I'm not catch uppinger on the pushing, pushing, mixing up
the bot steel and putty dollar don yeh yeah yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:29:44):
Yeah ya yah yeah yeah, Sunrise.

Speaker 10 (01:29:51):
Let this sunpall.

Speaker 6 (01:29:55):
Let that.

Speaker 7 (01:29:55):
Nope, don't join them, jo Jo bye.

Speaker 10 (01:30:05):
The don last your far right, not in the way,
not in the way, not in the way that.

Speaker 6 (01:30:17):
You would say.

Speaker 14 (01:30:21):
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah
yeah yeah I'm the cushion man said.

Speaker 6 (01:31:13):
Ay I.

Speaker 14 (01:31:20):
I yeah, yeah yeah kay ya yah yah.

Speaker 10 (01:31:23):
Do not letting them.

Speaker 12 (01:31:24):
Jumping, No, I'm not jumping on a cushy cushkin, mixing
up the for stella, putting.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
Door yah.

Speaker 14 (01:31:37):
Hy yah yah yeah yeah yeah yah yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:31:41):
Let the sun right, let this sample.

Speaker 14 (01:31:49):
Let them nob betection on the.

Speaker 7 (01:31:53):
Metal body job by Penal Roust the far.

Speaker 9 (01:32:01):
Ride, not into way, not in the way, not in
the way that you said.

Speaker 14 (01:32:15):
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, okay, yeah yeah
yeah yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:32:22):
Push.

Speaker 10 (01:32:30):
Well, I'm make them in the money.

Speaker 8 (01:32:34):
And what do I see.

Speaker 14 (01:32:37):
See the big man to lay this coming right about me?

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
I'm not kids.

Speaker 12 (01:32:45):
Judy cracks in the see them get at the full battle.

Speaker 10 (01:32:51):
See them walking all around a cushion trigging. Don't see
no pushing on the door.

Speaker 15 (01:32:56):
P yeah yeah yeah yea yeah yeah mod side.

Speaker 10 (01:33:25):
Won't you bring it to me right by my wind? No, lonk,
you bring it to me bye my wind?

Speaker 9 (01:33:32):
Won't you bring it to me right by my wind?

Speaker 10 (01:33:36):
Look and bring it to me right back?

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