Brewsers #269- Don with Dragonslayer Wrestling

Today on Brewsers, we talk to Don with Dragonslayor wrestling. Their next show, Ascension, is happening July 17th at the Ridglea Theather in Fort Worth, Texas. 
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome to Bruisers, a podcast about beer, coffee, booze and bruisers.
I'm your host, Rody John, and today we talked to
Don with Dragon Slayer Wrestling. Their next show, Ascension, is
happening at July seventeenth at Ridgley Theater here in Fort Worth, Texas,
and you are not gonna want to miss it.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
This is such a fun conversation.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Don and I go back multiple years and it's just
fun to catch up and also talk about what Dragon
Slayer is all about. And I can't wait for you
guys to hear all about it. So, without further ado,
you don't want to hear from me, you want to
hear from him. Here is Don with Dragon Slayer Wrestling.

(01:07):
I would like to welcome the show down with Dragon
Slayer Wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
How are you doing today.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Show, I'm doing great. Thanks John, Thanks for having.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Me, Thanks for being here. We are here at False
Idle really also a great past guest of the show.
But my first question is, let's go all the way
back in time. What is your earliest memory of wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh, we're gonna go way back. I don't know how
many people are gonna follow me this far back, but
you know, I grew up in the Midwest, so I'm
not a I'm not a w CCW. I'm so I
I saw a lot of the Ganyas out of Minnesota.

(01:45):
I also then, you know, TBS, the superstation started coming along,
so I started seeing a lot of Georgia Championship Wrestling.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
But when you go back my first memory, the first
person I really liked and followed was there wrestler named
Bobo Brazil. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, since
I've got into it, I went back and learned a
little more. He's really like the Jackie Robinson of wrestling.
He was, but he was great. I loved his personality.

(02:16):
He was kind of the general giant type guy. But
and I know, you know, I can't even imagine what
he put up with ye when you know, it's kind
But that was really when it all started for me,
and I would watch on Saturday morning as usually.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, well, so did you just keep up with wrestling
or because I know a lot of people are go
in and out.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I never did.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I was just I guess since I was three or four.
My parents said, I saw it was on Tarantva consistent.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
But I was kind of an in and out person. Right.
You get to a certain point as you get towards
high school and girls, you know, maybe it's maybe it's
not cool to watch wrestling. It's stupid. Yeah, you get
away from it for a while and you know that
there's it's a lot like a sitcom or a soap
opera too. You know, if you're not following it for
a while, you lose the story and then it looks silly. Right,

(03:04):
these people were friends. What happens in in any show, right,
And you have to watch and get into it, and
you start to follow. If you didn't, if you didn't
get into Marvel, and all of a sudden you come
in and watch one of the movies and Mili, You're like,
that's ridiculous. Why does this guy grow and turn green?
Why how does this guy have this power? Right? It

(03:25):
doesn't make sense. No, but you have to kind of
walk yourself through that story. So I would leave sometimes though,
something will help me bring me back. Of course. You know,
w CW hooked me for a while. I was really
in the w CW, and I was there for a while.
You know, you had n W A a w A,

(03:47):
Who's Who's the real champion. I think it was Rick Martell.
There was Jerry Lawler. That that's back there, right, But
then modern day to me as modern day as it gets,
was then I really caught uh caught the bug with
Brett Hart, really a technical wrestler fan literally like one

(04:08):
of my favorites. Loved that style. I was disappointed with
how it worked when he went to the WCW, but well,
love the story.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
That wasn't really a wrestling company at that point, unfortunately,
it was almost a content creation situation, but they still
had the wrestling label.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, So I mean and I I faded again. You know,
life happens, right, But but then I really the last
time when it really bit me hard was COVID. M Yes,
we get as we get into COVID, you know, and
I'm looking for content, I'm looking for sports to watch,

(04:47):
and right about that time, then I saw a w
and about the only live sporting event I could watch
was wrestling. So I was all I was watching it
all I was watching, you know, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and
just I had a career change opportunity, and so I

(05:12):
actually went to my first indie show just coming out
of COVID I'd never been live you've been to a
live shown until then? Wow, And I went to an
aw show, went in Garland just as we came out,
just as we came out of COVID and and then

(05:35):
I just just drove me deeper to start to seeing
more and more. So. Yeah, and the more you learn
about the industry, to me, the more I love about it.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, I do love things like I mean, you're a
business guy, and the business behind pro wrestling is so massive,
and you could go so deep into I mean, honestly,
at the end of the day, that's why a lot
of decisions are made because of money and stuff, but
because this person can work these dates, these person can't

(06:05):
work these dates. And then you know, I heard Jeff
Jerry's podcast the other day. I don't know if you
keep up with that one. Yeah, but they would talking
about the corporate wrestling aspect of it all. And that's
exactly the w W.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Is right now.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
For a long time, they're kind of that way anyway,
just because people think of wrestling, they think WWE or WWF,
no offense but pandas. But the things about pantas. But
that's what they're thinking about. The bottom line, they're not thinking,
we're doing this real long storyline where this part like
you go to aw with Adam Page situation right now,
Like that storyline has been absolutely fantastic with the ups

(06:38):
and downs and the fans have been with them Adam
and it's great and now at all in which is
gonna be their WrestleMania? But how is it gonna happen?
Is Brian Daniels is.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Gonna be involved all that other stuff?

Speaker 1 (06:50):
But the business of pro wrestling, I think is so fascinating,
especially Yeah, I think as I get older, before it
was all about the characters and the wrestling and everything
like that, and now I'm like, all right, so they're
going to this venue and I'm like, what's the capacity
of this venue? Because I'm really interested about that kind
of thing.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
No doubt. I mean, look, I spent I spent twenty
three years in finance. That's my background, right, I was
a theater kid, but I spent my adult life in finance,
and so I would start going to indie shows, and
I mean, this is so boring to most people. Well
I'm sitting an indie show, I'm counting heads, going, I'm going,

(07:28):
how did they make any money? Twenty forty sixty eighty.
I'm trying to figure out how much they could possibly
have brought in and how could they pay for this show.
That is the first angle I approached things then, is
how is that? How is that work right? And how

(07:48):
do we make that work? And that's important because look,
I'm weird like that most fans should fans shouldn't have
come to a venue and think about that. They come
to be entertained. Yeah, and that's why I bring together.
I bring together that business history with just the desire

(08:09):
to bring something that is entertaining to the masks.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yes, it's about giving those people those moments really at
the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, And I.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Always tell I mean, we had this conversation before. If
you bring somebody to a show and they've never been
a wrestling show, they're hopes, They're like, oh, I get it.
This is because we talked about there's this stigma about wrestling.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
There's always been a stigma wrestling.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It's either everyone who goes is especially here in the South,
they're like a redneck and they're dumb and they don't
you know, they don't know anything. But then like you
do look at ww BE and you have like the mask,
like you have Snoop Dog, you have you know, Logan Paul,
and you have all these different people and it's like, well,
can't Paul be dumb rednecks because you're looking at who's

(08:50):
actually running these things. So the crossover is fantastic. But
once you get somebody there, it's it's done. Like I
had my cousins. So I was working the Arkansas show
two weeks ago. My cousin who lives there, who I
will go stay with after the show. Her and her
husband came. It is the first show ever and they're like,
this is insane, and I was like, yeah, I know,
this is what wrestling is.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
And I tell people, you know, how often do you
find people are like, man, I just want something different
to do tonight. What can we do different? I'm tired
of the same old stuff, tired of going to the
same bar, same club, same restaurant. And to those people,
I say, come see a live wrestling show, Come to
Dragonslayer Pro Wrestling. Especially if you can't, you know, go

(09:35):
go be a fan of your local indie wrestlers, but
you know you will. You will be entertained and you
will get more value than most any place you're gonna go.
If you like theater, go, If you like sports, go,
if you like comedy go there. If you just want

(09:56):
to hoot and holler and cheer or boo, go You
will be impressed at how hard working these people are
to put on a show for you and how available
they are before and after the show. I see people
all the time that have never been to a show. Afterwards,

(10:18):
they're taking pictures with the belt, they're taking pictures with
the wrestlers, they're buying the merchandise, they're loving it, And
people that are just closed off to that are missing
out without a doubt.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, those we were talking about it before too. Pro
wrestlers are some of the hardest working people because not
only are they having to travel there, but also keep
their body and the way it is, work a match,
work a promo, and then also have to work the fans,
whether it be good, bad, or somewhere in between, so
that they still will come by their march afterwards, even
though they may have booed the hell out of them

(10:52):
the entirety.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, let's you know, not to not to pull the
curtain back too much for everybody, right, but something already
done that long ago. But there was a time when
wrestlers traveled town to town and they wrestled the same
match night after night in different town. Yeah, it wasn't
on TV, and it was a different crowd, and they

(11:17):
had that match locked. The modern wrestler. To be honest,
more than half of the show. You go see those
two people haven't met until two hours before that show up.
And you watch the show that you see, and you
you marvel at them. You're like, you guys didn't even

(11:38):
know each other two hours ago, and and look at
look at the show that you just put on. I'm
I'm in all of the commitment, and they don't get
enough credit for how good a performer they are.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
I think the same thing.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, well so I initially met you at a pelet show.
How did you initially even get involved in the.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
World for wrestling?

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Well, you know again coming out of COVID, right, And
something I learned in business all the time too, is
if you want something to ask, ah, that's true, right, right, ask? Yeah,
salespeople ask for their business. The biggest mistake in sales
is they never asked for the business. Right, They talk

(12:22):
and talk, but they didn't get they didn't get to close, right,
So I saw that Pele was going dark, and I
reached out the cop. I said, hey, here's who I am,
here's where I've been. If you want to talk, let's talk.

(12:43):
And we did so then, to be honest, we talked.
We met probably once a month for lunch for six
or eight months until we finally decided to, you know,
bring it back and do a show together. Right, And

(13:04):
you know, unfortunately just circumstances where we had two shows.
I'm proud of the shows and the talent we had
and what we could have built there, but you know,
that wasn't to be, and so that just was the
next step for me. It was like, Okay, I don't
want to stop this.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, you got a bit by the bug.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
You know, let's let's let's do some more of this.
And that's when I, I in ernest, began taking the
steps to launch my own promotion. Right.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
So I know, those last two shows were originally Theater
in Fort Worth, which, for those outside of the DFW
or originally is this absolutely historical building. I've seen so
many concerts there now wrestling shows as well, and it
just you say, you're originally people like, oh, wow. Really,
So it's like it already ampswered up more than people
don't e s anything. So like, how did you continue

(13:59):
that relationship with the Origin or did you help Kyle
get to the Originally?

Speaker 3 (14:03):
I just wanted to sign the contract with Originally because
just I felt like it was it was good for
the brand, right to make a statement. And look, I
doesn't matter wherever you put on a show, they put
in great shows. But I thought, I want to I

(14:24):
want to stand out. I like the look of having
wrestling in the theater. I love that book. So I
had that contact with the Ridgeley. I maintained that contact
through last year, although my first show I had somewhere else,

(14:45):
just proof of concept, trying to put a show together.
And after I did that, I thought, you know what,
we need to talk about getting back to the originally.
So I reached out to my contact. Luckily he's still
the same person, right, and we cut a deal to
be there all all three shows that we have this

(15:05):
year the rest of the year, and we're gonna start
talking about twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, great venue, great place, great place to watch if
you want to watch back. Yeah, I'll make my shameless
plug here that sometimes watching indie wrestling on online isn't
a great experience. It can be a little difficult. Sometimes
the sound quality, the video quality can make it difficult

(15:35):
to watch and appreciate it. But to that, I say,
then check out the April show Prucible, Dragon Slayer Wrestling,
Dragon Slayer Pro Wrestling on YouTube and you're gonna you're
gonna be impressed.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I do so many interviews with indy wrestlers and I
go back and try to watch the stuff on YouTube
if I can find it, And a lot of times
I'm like, who is like recording this? Like what is
happening right now? It is not great.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, there are times when the ring ropes are in
the way and some of them. Look, that's the first
goal of a promoter is to put on a good
live yes, exactly number one, right, So don't worry too
much about how it's going to look later through the show.
First for the people, and it's for that live crowd,
and that's what wrestling is, that's how it should be experienced.

(16:26):
If you're watching it online, it's only because you couldn't
get there or you're wanting to go to the next one. So,
but you know there are some where all they have
is a hard camp. It's a single single shot from
way too far away, right, and and you can't hear anything,

(16:47):
which is at least you get the content. So but
this product is made to be watched back on videotape.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
That so, how did the name come about?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Well, you know, I have certain passions that I like
just emblematically, right, I love lions, really gave serious considerations
something like that. But then I also thought, you know,
I want to I want to be the promotion for
the masses. I love renaissance, I love cosplay, I love

(17:27):
ren fares. All that crossover to me, and I wanted
the name to say that in a way too. I
wanted people to go, wow, that's cool, and it makes
really good looking merchandise that way too. I just love
the logo idea coming up with with how we do
a shield the banner. It lends itself to just a

(17:53):
whole arena type of a vibe. Right. These are the gladiators,
the warriors, and that's fun for people. Even if it
doesn't matter if you like wrestling or not, you like that,
you like that aspect, and that's what I wanted to
do with Dragon Slayer. So so yeah, I went through

(18:17):
a lot of names, a lot of decisions, but we're the.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Ones that didn't quite make it, you know what.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I kind of kind of think about that. I thought
about Camelot, right, I thought about a lot of things.
With the whole idea of King Arthur, I wanted it
to be Arthurian. I like the whole idea, even of
the business being very much the idea of the roundtable,

(18:45):
the idea of everybody has a voice, the idea of
everybody has something to contribute, right, and the whole Arthurian
theory is about chivalry and about fair play and about
trying to really equal rights before we had the term
equal rights. Sure, so that played into my idea I've

(19:07):
told you previously, John, was that I feel like women's
wrestling is underserved in the independence. Our shows will always
have at least three women's matches.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
We had three on our first show only because I
couldn't get a fourth one book. We had four on
the last show. We have four on the one coming up, right.
So I want to equally serve of the Hispanic crowd
as much as the English speaking crowd. I want, especially
here in Texas too, I want to make sure that
we that there is everybody feels welcome at what we do.

(19:45):
And there's no better way to do that than to
show that everybody's welcome as part.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Of our team to right as you should because everyone,
I mean, I say it all the time, wrestling is
about fane and you need a little bit of everything
for everybody, because not everybody loves all of this or
all of this.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
If you get a whole show of that gets tired
of it.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Without a doubt. I've said before on other interviews that
to me, it's the modern day circus, and that well.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
It came from the circus as well, right right, right, so,
and that people go to the circus for different reasons,
and you.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Want to serve all of those. You want to the
person that wants the strong man, the high wire act,
the clown car. Wrestling does every bit of that. Wrestling
has comedy, wrestling has danger, wrestling has feats of strength.
Right there, all of that combined and when you walk
out of that show, I want everybody to love it,

(20:44):
but all of them loved it for something different us exactly.
It wasn't just all the same. Well, so like, oh,
here's two more guys doing the same thing, right, and
so it's it's just an important thing and that just
all somehow with Dragon Slayer and the whole Camelot idea

(21:04):
just all started to fit that.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Now, where are you finding talent at it? Because the
independent world is massive and obviously travel can be quite
a bit of an issue, but you obviously want to
try to work with as many people as possible. And
then Texas is just so not saturated but in as
deep with talent, So like where do you kind of
try to find your talent?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
You know, basically, from first, I had some relationships from
my from my history, and that brought a lot of
really good talent from Houston. Yeah right, so and it
Houston is deep with talent, very beyond reality of wrestling,
and it dips all the way down to Corpus CHRISTI

(21:46):
with the Texas Wrestling cartel Reality of wrestling, You've got
it so much down there. So I started there. Then
Mission Pro went dark and San Antonio, which you know,
for a listener that may not know, that was exclusively
women's wrestling thunders and so when they went dark, I'm like,

(22:10):
there's a talent pool there, I need to reach into
San Antonio. I went to San Antonio and I met
with some wrestlers. I watched wrestling. There's still a really
good group dog Pounds there, Jazz and Jazz and Rodney. Yeah,
so I saw some of their shows. There's a few others.

(22:32):
I'm trying to think that three sixty three sixty there.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Oh, maybe I know I've hurt how them.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
I saw a couple of others that studstashed runs. One
I was San Antonio as well, which I went and saw,
you know, their matches, So you start to network with talent, right,
and then I I just I watched more wrestling than
I would challenge anybody, especially in a promoter to say

(23:04):
they watch more.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
How many screens have you had at one time that
you're like, how can I watch this much wrestling and
really take it all way?

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, I don't know. If I have too many screens,
I'll wrestling will be on TV and on my laptop.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
I was gonna say I've done I've done three that
way where it's.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Like different matches, Yeah, TV, laptop and andfon And because
I want to try to hear what you know, I
want to feel it, try to feel what's going on,
and I don't always get that on the majors, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, so because the emimentary for the most part, is
supposed to be driving it all, so you're supposed to
kind of react off that, and then everybody else in
the crowd is reacting off what's happening in the room,
and it's like rye.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
So so I've I've become aware of a lot of
wrestlers through watching matches online. I reach out to them.
I brought some of them in already that have become
really key pieces of Dragon Slayer's and and'll I keep
doing that now. It builds on itself. Once you have

(24:07):
an established promotion, more wrestlers start to reach out because
they know wrestlers, They see wrestler, they see your content
and a flash in the pan and just trying to
h I don't blame them for that either, right. There
are some wrestlers that at first are like, well, we'll see, that's.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
How people thought about aw too.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
They're like, maybe you know, And there's so many horror stories.
Even probably every major wrestler even has a horror story
about a day they didn't get paid about, you know,
just conflicts they had in the dressing room. Things that
they were told that weren't true happens all the time.

(24:49):
So I understand, I understand completely, but I pride myself
on trying to find something new and interesting one for
the local fan too, to give the wrestlers an opportunity
in a new market.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yes, exactly, because Texas is such a such a deep
pool that and it's a gigantic state. Like people keep thinking, oh,
we need to see, which I think is dumb. I
don't need a passport to go to Oklahoma, first off,
but like it's so massive that you could work all
four corners really of the state and then completely different crowds,

(25:23):
Like whatever happens here in DFW's different than Houston, different
than down in Corpus El Paso, And were like, it's
a different and there's so.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Many wrestlers that I've talked to that I'm like, why
don't you get more work up here? Because they work Alpaso.
Al Paso seems really isolated. I know, it's quite a
trip to al Paso.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
If you go to drive to California, two thirds of.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
That is Texas, which is right, but you know what,
the the DFW wrestlers go to Oklahoma and Arkansas and Louisiana.
Al Paso's no different than those drives, so I will
probably use a little bit further. But there's parts of
Louisiana they go to that aren't aren't any aren't any closer.

(26:09):
And but there's a there's a lot of talent in
US and that doesn't come up this way. There's a
lot of talent not far away too, And whether it
be Arkansas or Oklahoma, or to be honest, people drink
can drive down from Saint Louis easier as easy as
they drive from Alpaca.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
And that's You're right.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Chicago is way really and I'd love to do it,
and so and I have heard and I know you
had Lulu Lorena on a pastia. Lulu's based in Chicago,
and because of that, other wrestlers from the Chicago area
would like to come down. It is advantageous to have
df airport here.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
It's very easy to get from O'Hare to d f
W and affordably, you know, maybe so so yeah, yeah,
so yeah, long story short, it's finding the talent just
takes getting out there and doing it, going to see

(27:14):
shows and watching because I don't ever just watch it online.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
I also want them just see them. Yeah, so I've
made promises. I'm going to get out to Mutiny, Okay
and see Mutiny. I've talked with the people at Texas
Wrestling Partel to get down the corpus. Like I said,
I've been to San Antonio, I've been to Oklahoma. I've
seen wrestling in Vegas.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've been out there.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
So so yeah, it's but that's what I do, and
that's what I feel. I owe it to the wrestlers
and the fans to find that talent.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
And bring it to them.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
That's what a promoter should be.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Right exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, you're not just here for the money grab. You're
literally here to give the best product to the fans
and for the workers as well.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Right. So yeah, and it's it's odd that a lot
of locals wrestle more other places.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
So sometimes I'm worried about like even my situation, Like, yeah,
I'm a ring announcer and I can also do backstage interviews,
but I have to go to Arkansas to work, Like
why am I not? Yes, I'm gonna end up working
in mineral Wells later next month or this month, I guess,
but that's still it took me this long to get there.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I'm like, what are we doing.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
All the time. There's a wrestler I reached out to
the works for ovw Okay Ohio Valley Wrestling, right, Sophia Rose.
She's got a great backstory and everything, if anybody's ever curious.
But I reached out to her about, you know, if
she could wrestle with it. Sometimes she's like, yeah, I
live in Austin. I'm like, well, okay, well that's easy, right,

(28:49):
that makes a whole lot of way. Yeah, as long
as you can work around their commitments because they have
contracts and never sure. But but you know, but that
goes back to the ask true who's talent? Ask yeah,
talk to them and say, hey, love to have you sometime. Yeah.
You know, you'd be surprised how many things work for

(29:10):
you if you.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Just ask yep.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Oh, I've realized I would just podcast like amount of
Luckily for me, a lot of free things I've gotten
from just doing a podcast. That is, for the most part,
is just a passion project. Yes, obviously I'd love to
get paid at one point, but sure, I really wanted
to help tell people's stories and at the end of
the day, Like, it's not about me. I'm not trying
to get myself over anywhere. It's just I want to
help push other people, and especially Mama pop people where

(29:34):
they're local breweries or wrestlings or whatever. That's the people
just don't know who they are, and so if I
could help promote them, it works out better for everybody. Yeah,
obviously I want more of people to listen, but at
the end of the day, I'm really wanted more like
for them to get more toenive.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
But how do you get more people listen to be genuine, right,
and to provide a quality.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Product, right exactly.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
That's why I don't do video because it's way more
I feel like people are way more on or if
they feel like the more on when they have to
be like videoed and like actually whatever, I suppose it's audio.
You could just kind of bullshit and do whatever you want.
You feel a little more at ease.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, there's there's pros and cons right well.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Also, like how people are consuming their content is right.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
It's not our content, right, so because you will always
you'll promote it with a visual right, And that's because
some people that's just the way they connect, right.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yeah, people scroll the reels like they're on tender fucking
swipe and right or left.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
It's crazy, right, because there's a lot of stuff that
once it's a video, people aren't watching the video. Right.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's also if it's too long people, which too long
now is almost thirty minutes or thirty seconds to a minute.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Crazy. Yeah, So yeah, that you know. That's but so
you have to meet everybody where they're at true different places.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
But that's also goes back to wrestling. You have to
meet people where they're at. There's a lot of times
that you know, as we've talked about, people have those
ebbs and flows of going for wrestling or into wrestling
out of wrestling. They're into it, they're not into it.
Oh this thing really got it? Like, oh my god,
see a hunk Do you see with the pipe bomb
and all that stuff? Or the screw job, or there's
certain like monumental moments in the world of wrestling that

(31:13):
people are like, oh I remember this or I remember
when I was h blah blah blah, right, and then
they either stay in it for a little while or
they're just like, Okay, well that happened, and I'm not
so it's like, but if you're into it and like
you love the local scene, which you every one you
to go check out, end up in wrestling all the
time because your new favorite wrestler is wrestling locally somewhere,
and then you want them to be at their your

(31:34):
local show that so you don't have to travel it whatever.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Yeah, there's so many great people too. They're just they're unbelievable.
They put on a great show. They're to a person,
they're very gracious. They they appreciate that people come out
and watch and we'll take time yes with you, Yeah,
signing things, taking photographs, by their merchandise. They'd love to

(31:57):
say a little bit of merchandise. That's how they put
gas in their car to get to the next town. Right. So,
I don't know how somebody could see what you and
I have seen and not be in love with what happens.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
It's literally a beautiful mixture of like like you said,
the theater and the theatric's sports and then also entrepreneurship
as well, because they get to carry they're gonna make
all this merch or have somebody make it. Then they
got to carry it to talent show to show then
they hopefully sell as much as they can so they
don't have to travel back as much. And it's absolutely insane, right,

(32:34):
And then also the travel is almost the worst part
of that.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
They're all independent contractor, yes, right, they're working for themselves,
so nobody's hungry, or nobody works harder than an independent contractor,
right because at the end of the day, they're selling
themselves as a brand. And and it's just amazing even

(32:57):
you know, at the level that some reach, how hard
they worked at it, and how it's a thankless people
don't realize the deal they do. And they get it
if they get a day off their meal prepping, right,
because because they also have to maintain a certain diet,
they also have to get in the gym every day.

(33:19):
That's hard to do. You know when I would travel
for work, I didn't want to get up the next
day after traveling. Well, they got to They got to
do it all the time. They gotta get they got
to go to the gym, and I'm sure their workouts
harder than miners. And or then they got to get
in a car and drive for three hours and then

(33:42):
they got to perform and they got to drive another
three hours you know, and now they got to prep
their meals again and they you know whatever, and that's
and some of them are trying to hold down a
day job too. They'll call a shoot joub right because
they're they're waiting for their dream.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
To Yeah, there is I always say that about whether
it be any live performance, whatso other concert, comedian, pro wrestler,
whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
You never know who's in that audience.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
This can either notice what you're doing and then try
to talk to you afterwards, or tell them about tell
somebody else about what you did, or like your next
biggest fan is right there, whether it be a kid
or you might be inspiring the next generation of talent
as well, because how many times can pro wrestlers be like, oh, yeah,

(34:32):
I saw blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
When I was a kid, and I'll blew.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
My mind like a lot of times now I actually
talked to wrestlers this actually video games. They're like, oh yeah,
I play the video games and I started watching and
it's like, how the hell did that?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay, yeah, as long as you got in, we're good.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
That's how they started. And then yeah, you never know
to your point that who's out there, right, And maybe
maybe it's not who they are now, but it's who
they're going to be, right, and you just don't know.
And it might even support staff true, that might move
on to something a little bigger and better. Right, it

(35:06):
might mean the wrestler across the ring front of you. Yeah,
be nice to know you had a good relationship.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Well, speaking of which, you have Walker Stewart helping you
guys backstage. And Walker as people don't know, he's a
new I would say nuke.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
He's been in the.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
News bands for two years now. Yeah, and which is
hard taking over the spot of Kevin Kelly because Kevin
Kelly was actually fantastic.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
I have no idea what he's doing now. I haven't
tried to reach back out to him, but.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
You have him, and you have James who's also works
so many local independent shows. I know he works Matt
Moore pro here at DFW. He helps you guys as well.
He's living in Oklahoma, is very busy as well. How
do you guys kind of how does that work when
it comes to having guys like that backstage? Because if
you got guys run a Tokyo Dome show multiple times

(35:55):
and some g ones and like he's just on it
and now he's working with stardom like that's just the next.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, I mean, who knows what the future holds. And
he's still so young.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
He's like not even thirty.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
You wouldn't believe he's not even twenty five.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
I'm just say he might be twenty five now, I
don't even I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
I don't think he's twenty five yet. Incredible and great voice, yes,
oh great, that's.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Great, very white voice. He's gigantic, but it's like, what
six four he's.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
A big dude. Yeah, but but yeah, great commentator voice.
I was lucky that he reached out to me because
he heard about what I was doing. Yeah, and that's
another one of those you never know who you're talking. Yeah,
and and so you know, he and I spoke, We

(36:43):
exchanged some messages. He is so busy. Yeah, you know,
between here in Japan or if he's in the state.
Sometimes it's doing a New Japan show in California or
in Chicago. You know, so I guess it the city.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah, they run La Chicago most er. Some I'm san
Fran randomly pop up in Toronto if they can New York.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
And it was odd they did a they did a
show in Garland here maybe a year and a half ago.
It was a little week on the turnout, but I'm
sure Walker was was doing commentary there for them that
But yeah, so back to your question, how do we
work that out? You know, we stay in touch text messages.

(37:34):
I'll send them information. There are primary producers while I
do the booking, so I will ask their input when
I'm when I'm not certain which way we might go
on something, and I send them the list and and

(37:54):
kind of a general idea of where I wanted to go,
very loose. Yeah, and then we get together at some
point when our schedules permit, and have a zoom call
a few weeks before the show and we just kind
of finalize everything at that point and uh, and then

(38:18):
we and then we take it from there. So but
you know, well aware, and Walker's got other indies that
he'll work for too when he last free time. I
bet that doesn't happen a whole lot. Now we'll start
him too, and his role is more than just commentary
for starting so so yeah, it'll be it'll be something

(38:40):
that will navigate And that's why we continue to to
look for and have additional talented people around as well,
So it's a it's a pleasure to have him for
as long as I have him, and James the same way.
James is my Also, James is the one that if

(39:02):
I said, you know, who's this show not gonna go
off without it would be James because he's backstage. He
handles the timing, he's calm shots to the referees, and
so it's a it's an important part of having the
team together.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, for those who don't quite understand the timing situation
of a show. So those big shows you see WW
obviously they've been doing this instant repeat for them, so
they got the timing get But there are times that
matches do get cut because certain people go over, whether
it be promo match, whatever it happens.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
I mean, look at all the way back.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
To wrestling a ten like there was supposed to be
like a six or eight man tag. I think Jeff
Garrett was supposed to be in it. That she got
cut because that ladder match went too long. Well still
talk about that ladder match, no offense, but how many
people were gonna talk about that other match. But when
it comes to independent wrestling shows, you want people to
not just sit there forever, Like, no offense to a
lot of these talent, but a lot of times.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
We need it.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yes, you want to get your shit in, but bring
it down a little bit.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
You also were given this time to have that match,
whether it be.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Curtain a curtain, or whether it be bell the belt,
whatever it is, but you need to have that time
so that you can get out of there at a
certain time because obviously, when you're booking a venue, you've
also got to be out by a certain time, whether
it be tearing the ring down, clearing up and.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
All that stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
People just a lot of people who were not in
the business don't quite understand that, and it's it can
be a little bit murky for that.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Also there are a lot of times just sitting there like,
oh my god, this is how long is the show
gonna go on?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
We still got how many more matches?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Right?

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yea, right, it definitely happens. I've been there, yeah, and
it's you know, it's nothing like you know, setting up
a major arena, right, but when you come in, that
place is empty when you get there, and it has
to be empty when you really so everything you see
came and went within that day, and it's.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
A roughly twelve hour period and.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
There aren't a lot of people doing it besides the
people you saw exactly right. So, and you know it's different.
You know when WW or AW, I don't know if
AW does it much, but when their time goes over
or it gets cut, it's because they're gauging the crowd
a lot of things too. Hey this is going really well,
keep going, or this is falling flat, We're going to

(41:24):
chop a couple of minutes. Now. In indie wrestling, it's
it's generally you know, your time is your timing, you're
pretty much done. Yeah. Not a lot of indie wrestlers
are the ones that are gonna be on the fly
stretch a match five six minutes, so, so you really

(41:45):
want to keep people the timing. If they don't, it's
usually because they're moving a little too slow, right, and
you need to pick up the pace because people are
going to leave. Yeah, So it's critical that there's a
person that is in touch with things, that is keeping
people on truck and saying, all right, it's time to

(42:05):
bring this to a close, right right, right, it's time
to go home, because they'll say right, we gotta you
know this, this match has done all it can do.
And so that person is the lynchpin of any show
and you wouldn't even know their name.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, they're the unsung heroes, really, that shut out of Also,
you getting home on the.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Regular time, right, Yeah, and for you you don't realize why,
but sometimes you leave the show tired and you're like, huh,
you know, well that's because maybe it wasn't crisp enough.
It dragged out on me. You gotta kind of be
careful of that. Sure.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Well, it's also you have to you're riding that wave
of emotions too, whether this match got you here or
the next match might just kind of be a little
let up for you or a comedy's stuff or whatever
it is. And like, as a booker who actually puts
this whole match car together, you kind of almost have
to look at that and be like, Okay, well this
one's really going to go. Are this one will lighten
up a little bit.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
So that way they can have some breathing room.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, And then yeah, you're not not I'm not at
any point saying anyone's a popcorn match by any stretch
of thatation. But there are times that you'd be like, Okay,
well this is gonna be more of a funny. These
fans can actually.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Breathe without a doubt. Yes, you've got to be able
to take a breath sometimes. If that was an intense
fifteen to twenty minute match, do not give them another
intense match behind it, or they are going to be
exhausted and silent for the rest of your show.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Probably.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Honestly, you've got to mix it up for him. You
got to. You gotta lighten the mood. You gotta give
them a different visual. And that's all why different style
wrestlers too, Right, It's important you take notice. So you
just watched a banger of a match, you know, and
you're you're spent from that. Now, all of a sudden,

(43:53):
a more light hearted, you know match, people come bouncing out.
He catches your attention. Right, Maybe there's a little comedic moment.
Maybe it's a little different, maybe they're luchadors, something visually
different that makes us continue to watch, to say, oh, well,
this will be a different match, So let's let's check.

(44:15):
I don't want to leave yet. I don't want to
leave for this one. So there's a skill to it.
The skill that I'm not going to tell you I'm
mastered over anybody else, but a skill that you know,
the bigs don't always mastered. But but yeah, you'll even
see if you watch any reviews of major matches, they'll
be like, yeah, the crowd is fatigued because that last

(44:38):
Like will Osprey was just in the last match and
he wore everybody out. You don't want to follow a
Will Osprey match usually because he's He's a lot of movement,
a lot of excitement, right, and the crowd's kind of tiring.
You don't want to be the one in the ring
during that. So something needs to be different to get

(45:01):
people to stay in interest with you.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Right, Yeah, I was telling you. I was at the
WrestleMania in New York, the last one right before COVID.
We were there for a good eight hours and like luckily,
people so had energy at the end of the night
for the for the ladies because it was the main
event the only time thet Yeah yeah, yeah, so that
crowd was hot.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
But as soon as Becky won, my friend and I
were out. We ran, which.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Actually a good thing because I mean we didn't get
stuck on the rain for like two hours waiting on
a train. So, but it is definitely an art form
of like it's almost like creating a playlist, because you
want to start out with a banger so that you
really grab people's attention, and then you kind of like
level off another banger, leve it off.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
A little bit, and another bum. But then you never
really know.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Some of those ones you think are gonna be like
the let up matches.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
They go ball from ball and you're like, god, damn it, right, yeah,
so you just gotta chalk it up there. Okay. Yeah,
Sometimes you think the match is gonna be people are
gonna love this, they're gonna this is gonna hit so hard,
and then it's like, eh, yay, you know, the match

(46:07):
might have been fine, but the crowd just didn't crowd
just didn't follow because, like.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
You said, the one before was so hard that they
were writing, oh man, I got I got.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Nothing else left in me.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
There's not almost as much as the wrestlers are.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
You just never know. But that's the fun of it too, right,
And that's the that's the challenge, that's that's you know,
that's promoting a wrestling show, and you know there's there's
a lot more surprises than there is disappointment when they
watched d ND wrestlers. They're just so good at it.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Well, so your next show is the seventeenth of July.
It's on Thursday, which you've been running Thursday.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
We've been running on Thursdays.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
First off, HOWERD. The Thursday's been working, you know, it's okay.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
I don't think the Thursday has has affected our crowd.
I think it's just being new right and trying to
establish yourself there. So we while we run a Thursday,
we like to make sure that we get people out
a decent time. So our show starts at seven thirty.

(47:16):
We do usually run a couple of pre show matches
just to get everybody to their seats and kind of
start warming on everybody up a little bit, you know,
just like you would go to a concert and we'll
see a pre show.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
If I don't get there for the opening band, I
get upset because, yeah, I love I'm not there for it, right.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
So but we we start earnest at seven thirty, and
while we target nine thirty, we're certainly have everybody out
by ten if it just depending on the matches and
what we had going on. But so it's still an
early night for a Thursday. People can still go to
work the next day if they want to go. They

(47:58):
still school the next day, you know, although not coming
up now, we're gonna have somewhere.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
But but you know.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
A lot of people Thursday starts their weekend.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Sure, I've been saying Thursday Friday now, right.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Thursday is let's start our weekend. Right, we can always
get through one more day, right. How many times have
people said that I can get through one more day,
or I'm gonna work from home Friday, right whatever, but
or you take the day off. But but Thursdays have
not been bad. I haven't seen anything that I'd say, oh,
this is because it's Thursday, right, and we're gonna we're

(48:36):
gonna keep going on that. Well, I'm working with the
Originally we are probably going to do like an anniversary
show on a Saturday, and let's just see, yeah, does
it make does it make a big difference or not?
But we'll probably stick to Thursdays. It works out really
well for the whole team. Works for the whole team

(48:59):
for Thursday, and for people that are traveling in I
try to help them to get booked on Friday or
Saturday somewhere.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
So hey, come in and maybe I can talk with
the promotion about booking you that next day. And that way,
you know, you're doubling up your pay opportunities for one traveler.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Now, what can people lookford to on the seventeen.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
On the seventeenth, you're going to see some of the
same exciting wrestlers that you'd see from our pass cards.
Dante Casanova, who is the NWA Midwest Champion. I'm telling
you this guy, you will be on your television sets
in the next couple of years. Total package, great wrestler,
great talker, great look. The ladies will love Come see Dante.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
He's very attractive men.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
And you'll see Dante. Miles Hawkins will be back ninety
nine overall. He wrestles out of Baltimore and again great
talent and you'll see him. You're also going to see
Newtown if it's going to come in, We'll see two
d Lynn, who is under contract a while currently. You're

(50:09):
going to see returns of Fire and Fury, Nova, Phoenix,
Morgan Mercy uh in Tag Team Action. You're also going
to see a rematch. I will tell you just where
you're going to get the scoop here, because the Scorn
is just getting the message on this dragon. Sayers mandated
a rematch between the Scorn and Purple Hayes to be

(50:34):
a false count anywhere now.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
The balcony.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Those those teams met in April and a foreign object
was used by Tommy Prince, and so they have been
mandated a rematch be given to Purple Hayes. Uh. So
we will see those two teams in action, and you're
also going to continue to see, you know, all the

(51:01):
great talent of the rest of the Dragonslayer has to offer,
So come enjoy it. Tickets start at twenty bucks. That's nice, right,
So it's it's easy on the wallet. U. There is
a cash bar available at the ridgely there's plenty of
parking and and I just and you know what, I

(51:25):
will come and thank you for being there. I try
to get around and say hi to everyone because I
genuinely appreciate people taking their time to see our product.
So it's it's a great time. You're going to see
tremendous action at a really nice, iconic venue exactly, and

(51:46):
and you know, tell me if you if you're not impressed,
when you leave right, because you're you're gonna have a
good time. Of course, bring the family, by the way,
obviously always very kids love it. We actually provide poster
board and marker.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Oh cool.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
We have a table set up. Encourage you to make
out a poster for your favorite wrestler or maybe somebody
you want to heckle. Right, have your signs and well
we have the signs for you. You can make it
out the show and then and then you know, cheer
on or booms as you see fit.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
So we're flash forwarding now two years. Where do you
think Dragon Slayer will be in the next two years
or where would you obviously like dragons Slayer to be
the next two years.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
You know, I'd love to be a destination spot. They'd
love to be where wrestlers say, hey, I'm going to Texas.
I want to wrestle with Dragon Slayer. I want them
to know who we are. Look, I'm not I'm not
thinking I'm a booker tres Or, you know, Dustin Rhodes.
You know my competition, you know in the state of Texas.
I don't see them as competition. I actually see them

(52:54):
as partners. We are all doing the same thing. We're
all promoting and growing the sports professional rest we are.
We're a team trying to grow interest in this thing
that we've all found a passion with. I would love
more than anything too, for I would love nothing more

(53:18):
than if like ov W, M, l W, Hog, whoever
you know, reach out and say, hey, who you got,
you know, who's your talent. I don't aspire to be
a W, I don't aspire to b w W. I
just want to have my little, my little promotion and

(53:40):
and have fun entertaining everybody. And I would love that
if in two years I've gained the respect that that
others in the industry. I want to know, you know, hey,
who's who's your up and coming? And I'd love that
for the wrestlers because I want to see those people
on television. And I'm telling you you're gonna You're gonna

(54:03):
see you gotta see you know, Dante Casanova, Miles Hawkins, Jay,
Alexander Edge. You know there's some unsung misty Marks. It's
really good. Lady Bird, Monica Monroe, all those people you
can see today at Dragon Slayer. In a couple of years,
I think you're gonna be watching. You really will they're

(54:27):
that good.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I love that. I have a segment show I called
the Five Counts, just five random questions.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Okay, who was your first concert, lover boy? Oh really,
we're at It was in Ohio? So uh it was
at a like a concert at our an amusement park
called King's Island.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Okay, so yeah, love me to win.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
If you were to start a liquor company, brewery, coffee.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Shop, or winery, which one would you own? And what
would the name be?

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Liquor store, winery.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Liquor company, winery, brewery, or coffee shop.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Probably be more of a distiller. Probably be more of
a liquor company. And you know, i'd again i'd if
not Dragon Slayer, I would, I would lean into my
love of like lions. You know, maybe it's you know,
Pride Brewery like that, or Pride Distillery, distillery, or you

(55:31):
know something that lends itself the lions den.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Okay, can't chant my crime wan to wrestle you for
that one. Yeah, what are the last three things you googled?

Speaker 3 (55:46):
They're probably all wrestlers, So trying to give you honest
answer the last three things I googled? Ah, probably there
is a wrestler that I've just gotten to know a

(56:06):
little more about. That's around uh six foot plus woman,
I think six'. Four you might have seen Her arkansas
On Lilith.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
Cohn she'll be at the Next mutiny. Show, yep she's, Fantastic.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Lili Con I've i've And i've contacted her after.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Fans it's.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Crazy she comes in as a, heel the fans love
her by the end of. It it's absolutely.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Crazy so the only reason she's not in Our october
show Is thursdays are difficult for to trap makes sense
jobs at. All so, right So lilith definitely one of
the last THINGS i had. Googled i'll let her know.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
That, yeah, Yeah i'll see it.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
TOO i also probably it might have been a promotion
even if it wasn't a, wrestler BECAUSE i would have
googled more stuff about BECAUSE i am going to be
in In vegas In august and there is a wrestler
That i've been fascinated. With but she had been out.

(57:08):
Injured she goes under the Nickname Black. Swan her name
Is zoe De bois that so check out some matches
of hers very Theatrical she has a ballet, background AND
i googled her again Recently i've been talking to. Her
she's back from injury gradually and well we'll see her

(57:31):
At dragonslayer at some point in the. Future that so
so definitely those. Two i'll give you another female wrestler
because because my CONNECTION i think largely With Lulu lorena
is there is a female wrestler out Of chicago that

(57:52):
uses the Nickname, pascatita WHICH i think is.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Little fish.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
And her name Is. Lily i'm not sure where her
last thing, is but she used to be a. Powerlifter
oh and then got into, wrestling.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Right and so.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
You, know plugging these great lady wrestlers too that hopefully
you'll see It Dragon. Slayer if, not look them. Up,
yeah go see them and you'll understand the kind of
things THAT i kind of want to bring to the
bring to the wrestling.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
RING i love that while In, vegas by the, way
go check Out. Batistas has nothing to do with but
it's a Fantastic italian. Place sinatra used to shut it
down cook chicken barn for.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Everybody it's.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Great Oh i'm a. Foodie, yeah SO i love there
And i'll be there For i'm going with the THE cac, reunion,
right we'll be so we're downtown for, that BUT I
i move. AROUND i try to always see some indie
wrestling While i'm, there so SO i always want to

(58:56):
make sure to see some some other wrestling. TOO i love.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
That, uh who are what inspires?

Speaker 1 (59:02):
You?

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Sorry sorry for the dead. AIR i want to BE
i want to be. Thoughtful what inspires? Me you, know
because dreamers inspire. ME i really love the idea of
people that that we're willing to step out and and
try something. Right so entrepreneurs that that start out with

(59:33):
nothing and kind of come at come at. You i'll
give you one, thing maybe not my number one, inspiration
but a really big. QUOTE i happened to meet the
person who started Famous Amiss cookies oh yea years, ago
and he came to my college and spoke about business

(59:54):
and and one thing that resonated with me that he
said he, said it's never a bad time for a good.
IDEA i love that because when he got into the cookie,
business sugar prices were sky, high everything was. Crazy people,
said this is a horrible. Time but he, said it's
never a bad time for a good. Idea and so

(01:00:15):
that kind of stuff with.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
You and, finally what would you tell your seventeen year old?

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
SELF i would, say put yourself out, there you, know
you know a seventeen year old? Self sometimes IS i
know mine? Myself sometimes you? Do you admit defeat too,
Easy you're you're, dreaming, RIGHT i dream big and then

(01:00:44):
a little pitfall and you're, like it's all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Over it's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Not i've. Learned i've learned immensely more from my failures
than my, successes and so take a loss as a
learning opportunity and grow from it and be. Better, yeah it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
True now people want to follow you all, online find
out more about, you come see you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Live how can they do all the?

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Things, yeah definitely check us. Out we'll be at The
Originally theater which is In Fort worth On july. Seventeenth
For ascension is the name of our. Show you can
find more information At Dragonslayerpro wrestling dot. Com you can
also get tickets there and see various. Events also check

(01:01:32):
us out see what we're about on. YouTube Dragonslayer Pro
wrestling on. YouTube subscribe it's free that way you'll get
notices and see what else is going. On and we're
on X we're On facebook and we're On. Instagram check
Out Dragonslayer Pro Wrestling. INSTAGRAM i know it Is Dragonslayer
Underscore wrestling and just see the stuff we got going.

(01:01:56):
On i'd love for you to follow and reach. OUT i, do,
AN i do answer my messages AND i appreciate you,
know every, fan SO i will make time And i'll
get back to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
You there we. Go, Well, don thank you so much
for your, time AND i can't wait to see you
guys live and, uh this is gonna be a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Fun Thanks. SEAN i appreciate you doing, it no, problem all, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Thank you so much To don for being on the show.
Again make sure to head out To ridgely Theatered july.
Seventeenth that's, right it's A. Thursday it's going to be
In Fort, Worth texas to check Out Dragon Slayer wrestling
their next, Show. Ascension i'm going to be there AND
i can't wait to not only catch the, show but
also catch up with some people That i've definitely worked
with in the past and can't wait to have.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
On the show in the.

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Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
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Cheers