July 24, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome to Bruisers, a podcast about beer, coffee, booze and bruisers.
I'm your host, Roddy John and today we talked to
Jack Farmer. We talked about his journey in pro wrestling,
ring announcing, and so much more. Jack is doing absolutely
awesome things over in the Pacific Northwest and obviously in
California too, So you don't want to hear from me,
you want to hear from him. So, without further ado,
(00:40):
here is Jack Farmer. I would like to welcome to
show Jack Farmer. How are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm an eight out of ten so far.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
That that's pretty high.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, you know, I feel like it's a pretty good day.
Always could get a little bit better. So you gotta
leave a little room at the top there, yeah, you know,
just in case. You know, if I win the lottery,
then I feel silly of saying it was already a ten.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well do you play the lottery on a regular basis?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, not really, And I don't have a lot of
ticket now, so I don't know. I don't know, but
you never know. Anything could happen. It's true.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I did it for like a month's band, just the numbers,
not the scratch offs and shockingly that it did not.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
The ratio is not good.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I would say I do it like once every
six months, just for fun. And I find when I
played the lottery it's less about thinking I'm gonna win
it and more about like it helps me dream build
a little bit, like, oh, lottery, what would I do
with the money? And I start to think about it,
and then I sometimes forget I have the ticket until
like three days after the numbers or drawn.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh yeah, I'm only check to see if I'm a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, and I haven't been yet.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
No, not yet yet? Is operative word there? Or for
those listening kind of panish for word pictures? Where are
you at? What's going on around you?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
So?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I live in Los Angeles, California. It is a beautiful
sunny day. It's one of the reasons I love living
here in California. But I am in I would say
it's my recording studio, but really it's just a little
nook in the side of my in my house. So
that's where I am right now and just living the
good life. You know, where are you located?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I'm actually in DFW, Texas. Yeah, North Texas, Okay, very cool.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, I did you go to WrestleMania when it was
in town.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I've been to the last sixteen, so yes.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Oh okay, were you excited that it was in your
hometown or was it kind of like, oh, there goes.
I was going to go on a trip, but now
I'm just going to stay home.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So that's funny because every year we do look forward
to I always go with my buddy Eric, shout out
to Eric, and we always do look forward to a
new city. Anytime they repeat a city like it was
supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Again New Orleans year, and we're like, oh, We've already
been there a couple of times. Plus my ex you know,
one of my ex girlfriends are from there, so I've
been there multiple times. But then they end up going
back to Vegas and we're like, well, fuck, we already
went there again.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's uh. I've been to the last few
since since Dallas. Actually Dallas was actually my first WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Oh the first, the first one.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, that was the That was the first WrestleMania I'd
ever been to, and I've been to them since, and yeah,
find out it's gonna be in Vegas again. It's a
little bit like, oh, like Vegas is cool, but hey, yeah,
like we did that already.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Right exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
This is the first time since I guess what four
and five that they have gone back to back where.
But I mean, you know, there wasn't anybody. I'm not
saying there's no one who has traveled to every single WrestleMania,
but I'm doubting people that went back to four and
five are also now going to where do we at
forty two and forty three?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Like that, I don't see it happening.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, And if they are, then they're probably at an
age where they're probably not hitting the town too hard anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
They're like, yeah, they're they're catching that nap because they
gotta it goes way too late for them.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Right right, Yeah, it's hard from the stand they leave
after the third match because right.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Or they just decided to come in real late so
that way they can catch actually the end of it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But lucky for them, they get their early bird special
dinner before the show starts. Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, Plus, the buffets in Vegas are just bar none,
some of the best in the world.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Oh, Vegas. I mean that's it's kind of a double
edged sword because Vegas was actually one of I think
my favorite cities for it to be and like, this
is perfect place, but it's just boring that it's in
the same spot because also so much of the personality
of Vegas is the city it's in, like a New
Orleans or like Philly or Dallas, like so much of
(04:50):
it is because of where you're at, right, and so
to lose that is a little bit like or to
repeat it because when they did Tampa because of COVID
obviously like years in a row, it's a bit like, oh, okay,
we're doing the buccaneer theme again. Okay, okay, but yeah,
I guess, I don't know. Hopefully they do at least
a different theme this time around.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, I do wonder that too, because I mean, yes,
we are going back to back or they're saying double down.
But at the same time, I'm like, okay, are we
doing a different theme for Vegas, because they didn't do
that big of a different theme for New Orleans because
it was thirty and then I think it was thirty
four and it was just like yeah, big Florida le masks.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Done and done, like that's New Orleans. We figured it out.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Right, right, yeah, so I wouldn't get I wouldn't assume
they're doing anything crazy different, but I hope. I hope
they do, just because that's part of the fun, is
the theme and the vibe of each each stop. I
look at like, I'm originally from the Seattle area, and
I know that that wasn't the most successful WrestleMania, but
I was like, send send it back to Seattle. They
could use the WrestleMania. Yeah at all time.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I haven't been to Seattle in a very long time,
and I would love to go there for that would
be That was one of my favorite cities just to
go to in general, let alone, one need to go
see wrestling there.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Seattle is a great visiting city for sure. Growing up there,
it's cool. I have no bad feelings towards Seattle, but
it's not the biggest city in the world. So it's
nice to visit because you get to kind of see
it all like in a visit, but if you live there,
you see it all in a visit every time. Yeah, okay,
it sat Well, let's go all the way back in time.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
What is your earliest memory of wrestling?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So I was watching wrestling before this, but my earliest
memory is and it was funny, is I don't even
know if I was watching this live because my cousin used
to always babysit me, and he'd bring over wrestling tapes.
And that was how I watched wrestling to start, is
I would he would bring over tapes, I would watch them,
so I didn't necessarily watch wrestling in any particular order
or understand that. And he'd always bring over Royal Rumble tapes.
(06:53):
And so the the oldest memory I remember actually washing
was the Royal Rumble. I think it was nine three
when Rick Flair.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Won, Yes, that was ninety two, ninety two.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I just remember being so confused by that ending. It
stuck with me with the like I remember like, why
is Hogan being such a poor sport?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Right? Like?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And I remember thinking first I was surprised he lost,
Like why is Hogan losing? That's because I was I
was still young enough, Like what.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
He didn't lose anything?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, Hogan? What do you mean Hogan lost? And then
he was like why is it He's a poor sport?
Like why is he doing like this?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Is?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It felt so weird to me. I didn't even I
was at a young enough age where I the idea
of Rick Flair going the distance didn't even like register
to me. It was, hold on, let's hould Cogan doing
He's he's the hero. I don't get it, Like I
was so confused by it, and that's why I think
it stuck with me watching it. But that is probably
the oldest oldest memory I have.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Now everyone talks about that war rumble is one of
the best war rumbles there are, which for the most part.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
It is obviously you know, like you said, at the end,
you get the refusing this of like I thought Hogan
was a good guy. Why is he doing this to
sid and then like you know, yeah, and then Rick
Flair dumps him over. But the best thing about the
entire match is Bobby Heenan's commentary because he is a
he's Rick Flair's manager and he's also on commentary. Ric
Flair goes into number one and yeah, like you said,
(08:18):
goes the distance, and so like the emotional roller coaster
of listening to Bobby Heenan, and obviously by the end
his voice is gone, it's the best. So I think
that's one of the best word rumbles just for that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh, Bobby Heenan is so good. I feel like, I
mean this in the best way. He's so good. He
kind of ruined I think a few generations of the
future commentary people because they want so bad to be
Bobby the brain Heena on commentary. But there's only one
Bobby the brain heenan and you know, bless their heart.
I think a lot of us try to be Bobby
(08:50):
the brain on commentary. Sometimes it's like, sorry, man, there's
only one, only one Bobby. He was so good. He's
so good. He's one those guys that's so good that
we've all like forgotten some of the lines that would
be other people's greatest lines if they said it, you
know what I.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Mean, Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
He just has a collection of them, and you're like,
you just rattle them all off and yeah, like you said,
how many other commentators have that laundry list of lines
you could just rattle off like.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
That, right, and they're all fantastic. He would just have
throwaway lines that were just so funny or so good
or it wasn't just funny. But he he sold the matches,
he sold, the wrestlers, he sold. He he actually did
his job and was very funny at the same time,
which I find it very difficult to find people who
can balance that.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, and it wasn't just getting He wasn't getting himself
over either, like unless he had like a genuine beef
with somebody, like obviously he always had something against Hogan.
And then I.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Remember a boss Man there was a match and he
was commentating and he had a bandage on his hand
and he was like, yeah, probably from getting his handcought in
the cash register.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And I was like, that's.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Genius, that's so good. Yeah, he always it was never
about That was also true. It was never about him.
It was always every joke he made all made you
lean as a viewer one way or the other the
way you were supposed to, because he was a jerk,
so you'd always be like, oh, if he likes this guy,
then that must be a jerk too, or if he
hates this guy, then he must be the good guy.
(10:12):
And but what I love about him too is he
was always I always say he's he was honest in
the sense that you know, he hated Hogan, and then
when Hogan turned, he still hated Hogan. He didn't he
wasn't like a lot of people was like, oh, well
now I like him because he's a bad guys say no,
I hate Hogan, I hate him, I hate what he's doing.
Which I always appreciate that about Bobby Heenan. He didn't
just he wasn't say I hate this person just because
(10:33):
they're a good guy or a bad guy. But it
was like, no, this person I hate regardless. It just
happened to be most of the time if they were
bad guys. Exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I don't see that much nowadays, Like we almost see
the commentators. Obviously, we see the main play by play
commentator is going to be the person that's.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Right down the middle.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They they're gonna call everything the way you know, the
balls strikes, the way it is. But then the other person,
I feel like almost needs to be that more gray
area person, not that they need to be a complete
heel the entire time. If they are, that's fine and
they can carry on on. Don Kallis does a fantastic
job in that, but he's just a natural heel. But yeah,
there are just I almost feel like we're getting away
(11:13):
from that and it's almost we're having two of the
play by play guys because we've got to really push
over that this is a bad thing they're doing, or
this is a really good thing they're doing.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, it's I think some of I get what you're saying.
I think there are some guys who struggle with that, yeah,
And I think it's because there's so much going on
too that sometimes people I don't you know, I think
they feel like they're probably directing so much traffic at
these days, because especially if you're looking at like a WWE,
where they have so many shows and so many brands
(11:45):
and so many wrestlers and so many things to promote,
it's tough for one person. And you know, blessed Michael
Cole for being able to do it as well as
he does. But there's so much stuff. I think sometimes
you just need multiple people to take that on. And
I think also you got a lot of people, and
I don't know what their agendas are or anything, but
I also think you got someone like Corey Graves who
(12:06):
probably wants to move into a play by play role
at some point and so probably wants to show what
he can do on play by play when he's on
the call and trying to lend to that a little
bit as well, so when that next opportunity comes up,
he can get it as opposed to just being the
straight color guy, even though I think he's great at both.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
So, yeah, I think I liked him more when he
was a little more heel and he was more sympathetic
to the heels, and I thought it was great because again,
we don't get it very much.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, he's so I mean this in the most respectful
positive way. He just seems like he'd be a jerk,
and so when he talks, you just see you think like, oh, yeah,
he wouldn't like people. He would he would like the jerk,
he would like the person that cheats or whatever. He
he just has that way about him. I think when
he tries to be a nice guy, you kind of no,
(12:52):
you don't. You don't think that you don't like you
don't like Cody Rhodes. Come on, what are you talking about?
Like we get just say yeah, yeah, you know. I So,
I think that's a part of it too, where he
just feels naturally that's where he should be. And I'm
a big believer in if that's how we naturally see
people like let him run in that direction. It's how
(13:13):
I feel about like wrestlers too. And there's someone we
all clearly love, but they try to make them like
a bad guy or something. I'm like, like, let me
cheer them. I like them. Why are we Why are
we making me try? Why are you trying to make
me boo this person I clearly want to cheer.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I mean they do the same thing with Charlotte Flare
all the time, making her a face and it's like no, sorry, Like, yes,
a lot of the fans do love her, but there
are so many people out there that just do not
like her. And then also she just comes off better.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
To me when she is kind of like that, that
holier than now, like I am the Queen, you will
about down to me kind of thing as opposed to, hey, guys,
I'm just a really good wrestler and I'm gonna do
I'm gonna do all the good things. Like no, nobody
wants to see that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Sorry. Yeah, there's very much a Tom Brady aspect, yeah
versus where where. Yeah, she's incredible and I good appreciate that,
but I don't because she beats all my favorites, you know,
Like I'm a Seahawks fan and he beats my Seahawks.
I hate Tom Brady, but like I should I should
love him. He's the best of all time. But that's
I think Charlotte Flair has a lot of that where
(14:13):
she's so good that of course I hate her because
that's just how people are. We hate greatness, you know,
let me hate greatness.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Okay, I guarantee there's people that are non Michael Jordan
fans as well, So.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yes, oh yeah, it's funny in rear view. Everyone feels
like they're a Michael Jordan fan. But when he was,
when he was hot, Nah, I didn't like Michael Jordan.
He always beat my SuperSonics exactly, beat us so bad
we're not around anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Nope, that team went on to win a championship in
another city.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Oh I'm so heartbroke, and I'm such a hater of
the thunder Now.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
It's so funny because anytime Benny Wrestling goes back to Seattle,
they will always bring up the SuperSonics and is the
loudest boo that you will you will hear because it
is a very sore subject.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Still, it is still a very sore subject, and we
still all have this hope that we're going to get
a team back. I don't think we're getting a team
back anytime soon. But there's still this this hope in
Seattle that oh, we're gonna get one soon, it's gonna happen.
I don't think it's gonna happen soon.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And it's funny because they just I just saw the
w NBA is adding like four more teams in the
NBA is like, nope, we're straight anything.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, well, w NBA is growing, so that's yes, they are. Yeah,
I'm very happy for that. Yeah. I'm always happy to
see growth in sports and opportunities. So happy for them there.
That's it's great that it's blown up and people notice
how good they are.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It took them long enough.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, yeah, well how did you get in a ring
announcing yourself? Because you are the DeFi ring announcer and
then you also work with who's the other company?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I forget too. I do Defy Prestige, I do pretty regularly,
Championship Wrestling. I do Santino Bros. I do a few.
I did PwC Ultra or PCW Ultra for a little bit.
They haven't ran a show in a little bit. I
don't know if they plan on doing another one soon,
but so I'm here and there I go. I go around.
(16:11):
But yeah, I used to say, used to I I
was a DJ. I'm a DJ at DJ weddings and
things like that, and.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That is a very.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Pressuring but also fun job because you're the dude or
lady who is hyping everybody up to make sure everyone
is having the best time, that no one forgets that wedding.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, it's it's a very high pressure job because I
always say it's it's every show is the super Bowl
for somebody, Like if it's the couple, it's their super Bowl.
You don't get another opportunity. And I always say with
the wedding DJ, half the people there are plus ones
and they don't know anybody, and they don't necessarily care
about being there, and you still got to help make
sure they have a good time. But I'm still doing
(16:54):
that and I love it. But I was like, I
want to expand my horizons, you know, do different and things.
I wanted to learn about broadcasting. So I started work
with a company called after Buzz TV, ran by Maria
Manunos and Kevin and Degaro, and they had like an
INN with WWE. As far as like Maria and Nunos,
(17:15):
I guess she does a lot of stuff with them,
and I had a friend that worked there and he
got me in and so funny enough, they were like, hey,
can you cover pro wrestling? And I was like, yeah,
I can. I can cover pro wrestling, And so I
started doing their after shows for like after Raw, after
their pay per views AW started, and they were hesitant
(17:36):
to do an aw after show, but I was like, no,
we got to do an after show. I'll host, I'll
run the whole thing. I did that, and then the
pandemic hit and everything closed. They closed, they stopped doing shows,
and of course I was in djned weddings during that
time either, so I'm sitting around and I I'm like,
I got to look for something else to do, and
wrestling was still doing shows to empty arenas and so on.
(17:59):
LinkedIn reached out to David Marquez, who once owned NWA.
Now he owns United Wrestling Network and Championship Wrestling, and
I just reached out to him and I said, hey,
i'd be I want to help out. I've done, you know,
I've hosted events and things. And he says, okay, coming
(18:19):
on Tuesday for an interview. We're doing a show on Tuesday.
Come in and we'll have you do an interview there.
I was like, okay, so I show up. I'm minn
a suit. I've got my resume with me, you know.
And he goes, great, put that down, and I put
down the resume and he goes, here's a microphone. You're
going to interview Ray Ross. And I was like, Oh,
(18:42):
that's I'm doing an interview. I thought I was coming
into interview for the job, not interview someone. And so
it was a show called Primetime Live and it was
on pay per view, and I interviewed a wrestler. I
had no idea what I was doing, and I did
a few interviews and that's basically how I got started.
(19:04):
And I did that for a little bit, and I
was like, I need to learn a little bit more,
and so I started going to Santino Bros. Wrestling where
they trained wrestlers, and I took there. I took a
dated what they call an advocates class where they teach
you how to do the broadcast inside the commentary of
the ring, announcing and stuff. I did that, and I
took their Beginner's course for actual wrestling because I wanted
(19:27):
to know what's going on in the ring too. And
through that I obviously started working for them, and then
that was kind of what gave me the confidence and
the ability to move on to different things from there.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Very nice, but.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I would say, really the main thing is I just
sort of awkwardly said hey, can I help out? And
I showed up and started doing stuff and didn't know
what I was doing. And you know, there's a lot
of things I cringe out when I look back at
some of my first shows, but that's how you do it.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, how did you end up finding what your groove
really is? Because there are so many like I'm where
am I a roughly a year in now to being
an actual full on ring announcer, and I did the
you know, aftermatch interviews before that, and then you know,
it was always one of those things where you know,
someone didn't show up where they didn't get booked, and like,
(20:19):
hey can you do it? Of course, and I did
and then ended up getting booked now and I.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Work in Arkansas once a month, so you know, obviously
trying to get closer to home, so let's travel or
just you know, work as much as possible. But how
did you end up finding your groove to what you
what your style was? And then obviously who were some
people that you kind of pick and chose from, Like, oh,
I like the way they did this, or I like
the way they maybe enunciate this part.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah. So my first thing is, uh, my dream and
my goal is always to be on as big of
a stage as possible, So that'd be WWE, that'd be
a w So I would just watch and listen to
how they do it. I'm a big Buffer fan. I'm
a fan of both the Buffer brothers. So a lot
of my early stuff was literally me trying to copy
(21:08):
how they sound, you know, this is how they do it.
And then I started watching and paying a little bit
more attention to like WWE and and how they do
their announcements and so like when they do an announcement
like Cody Rhoades, it is, you know, from Atlanta, Georgia,
weighing two hundred and twenty two pounds, the American Nightmare,
(21:28):
Cody Rhoads, and so I that's literally how they say it.
So I started taking out like he is the American nightmare.
He is, Like they don't say that, they just say
the American Nightmare, Cody Roads. And so I started this
is how they would say it, you know, and I
started trying to you know, certain wrestlers and things, as
(21:49):
you probably know, they have their own special way and
you don't say it that way. You know, you'll they'll
have some different like Jake's something. He is like just
this is Jake something. You know, that's that's how you
say his name, but that's how you announce him. And
certain people have different ways. But for the most party,
I said, I try to take out all that stuff.
(22:09):
I try to. I noticed that, like they don't elongate
certain things like the weight. You know, they don't like
two hundred and twenty two, Like no.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
They like, are you putting so much emphasis on numbers?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Right? Right? So they just kind of they get through
that and they you know, I try to figure out
how they do it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
They're even at WW they're all different and like Alicia
Taylor has a bit more of a growl to her
where you know, uh, Mike Rome is a little bit more.
He's got a powerful voice. But it's a bit more
clear that I'm forgetting the name of the guy I'm
SmackDown right now.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You think it's Clark or something.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Clark.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I only know that because there's some Reddit thread recently,
like what do you think of the new announcers?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
And I was like, I mean, I could do it,
but you yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I think the new guy's doing a great job for
what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
He's got like a sing song any kind of way
of doing things, and so everyone's a little different, but
I try to listen to those. And a piece of
advice I got, actually, really the most recent advice I
got was from QT Marshall actually, and it was something
that he was told by Justin roberts Is And it
sounds so basic, but I wasn't doing it, and it
was the heels need to be announced one way and
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the faces should be announced one way, and so your
voice should reflect kind of what side of the fence
they're on. So like if it's if it's a bad guy,
you shouldn't be like it's Drew MacIntire, you know, like
why are you talking like yeah, like you should. It
should have that reflection of like, this is a bad person.
But if it's a good person, it should you should
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reflect that this is a fun person. And really every
aspect of what you're doing is trying to put that
person over and if they're a bad guy, you need
to make it sound like this is a bad person.
If it's a mischievous person, make it sound like they're
miss gievous, if they're happy, go lucky, you know what
I mean, and like try to add that to the announcement.
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But yeah, really just coughying people.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That's true though.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, but you know, and you find you're probably saying
the same way where you find stuff like, oh, they
do that, but I'm not really into that. I don't
want to do that, right and then and then certain
things where you're like, oh, that's cool, I would I'll
take that part, but I'll leave the other part out
or whatever. Right, I find if I growl too much,
I lose my voice, so I can't do too much
growlly stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But right, no, I've been wondering that too, because, like
I the growling does sound cool certain certain obviously during
certain matches or whoever you're announcing it, but yeah, your voice,
if it's the first person, you can't be growling that
much because then you still got to have a little
bit for that next person. Obviously you get that break
in between the matches. But like you don't want to
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be like coughing, and you know, trying to get your
air back after announcing somebody, Well, what do you kind
of do to kind of save your voice when it
comes to like day up?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
So I try to talk as little as possible on
the day of. I mean, I'm not like weird about it, like.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Tapping and yeah right.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, but like I don't yo yelling across the room
and all that stuff. I always bring cough drops with
me and I'll usually have a obscene amount of those
during the show, just to be on the safe side,
you know. I started trying to do warm ups something
I'm kind of newer in. One thing I've heard to
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do and I started doing it is I got a
big box of those little coffee straws, you know, like
the really small thin ones, and you just blow into
one of those for a little bit beforehand. I guess
it kind of opens up your voice box. I've been
told that I'm not a biologist or anything. I don't
know if it works, but I've told okay, I'm gonna
do it. Then I also started doing like just like
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a you kind of like hum and try to feel
the like where it's hit in your throat, getting up
and down, up and down, up and down to kind
of like you know, just that kind of stuff to
warm it up. And then and this is something that's
kind of actually tough to do, and you get this.
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I think it's tough for all ring announcers, is if
it is like the first match and stuff like don't
announce everybody like they're the biggest star in the world, right,
And it's it's tough because you want to, I, that's
our moment to shine. So yeah, you want to like
like give them, give them the full meal deal every time.
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But like again, if we're using you know, w W
as an example, for instance, I love a here to Zawa,
but you're not gonna give a cure to Zawa, the
biggest entrance in the company when he comes out. But
you still you still have to make it sound good.
That's the balance is you have to make it sound good.
But also like this clearly isn't Roman reigns someone else,
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and so you save those big moments for the Roman reigns,
and that's when you definitely like, look, I'm gonna growl,
I'm gonna give you everything, and my voice may be
shot after that, but this is the one that counts,
you know.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, Now I had watched Hot ones with Ariana Grande,
and she had mentioned the whole like humming, like in
the range of like going up and then coming back
down and then and all that. So yeah, I had
heard a lot of those before, and I've been trying
to work that as well, but a lot of times
it'll end up being showtime, like damn it, I didn't
do any work or any one, I'll just got to
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go out there.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, there's a I think it's always okay because I
messed that up sometimes as well. I think it's like
in between matches, even if you've already started, like you know,
you're sitting there. I don't know what other jobs you
have when you show. Sometimes you know your timekeeper. Sometimes
you're also raining the bell and stuff. But if you
have the opportunity, you could just do it, Like maybe
you do the first ring entrance and you're like, okay,
(27:55):
now while I'm waiting for the first match, start doing
it to try to it. I was kind of trying
to do it throughout the show as well, just to
keep it a little bit loose, and it's it's hard
to explain, but I think you'll get it too, Like
if you feel like your vocal cords are getting a
little worn. You can kind of like find a different
like level in your voice, like kind of go from
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you know what I mean, and try to get through
it without straining it too much. I did a few
shows ago for Championship Wrestling. I don't know what happened.
I was doing a ringing entrance and like something like
popped in my throat and like my voice was like
gone for that show and I got through it, but
I was definitely ringing like ring announcing in a very
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different way because it was like the way I, you know,
like my vocal cord felt gone, so I had to
be like talking from a different level here, so it was,
you know what I mean, so wise it'd be like
all squeaky or scratchy. And I was like, man, I
don't I don't know what happened, but that's now haunting
me every time I do a show, like.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Right, yeah, because then you're almost like, is it gonna
happen again? What caused that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah? Yeah? And it was like the third match in
a for champions Wrestling, we taped three shows, so we
do like eleven matches, and it was like the third
match and I was like, oh, no, this is not good,
and it was one qt Marshall's had. I was like, great,
the guy that I was hoping would see me, it's
not going to hear my voice is all shattered. But
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that's the way it goes.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Well, how did the how did the world of commentating
come around for you? Or was it kind of just
one of those they needed somebody also and you're like, yep,
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, commentary was what I wanted to get into to start.
That was kind of the where I and I still
love doing commentary as well, and so I started to
work with that, but I found ring announcing just had
more opportunities to it. I feel like a lot of
times commentary people they get into place and they sort
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of they own that spot for a very long time.
And so you know, those opportunities where ring announcing, for
whatever reason, at least in my experience, opportunities have come
up quite a bit, and so I take those. And
but commentary is a blast also that it's always weird.
People will compare them and I don't know, do you
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do commentary as well? Are you?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I've been wanting to really bad, because again it's like
you said, it's one of those things where once you
get in that niche, people really want that, and like
you said, you kind of own it. But the being
the ring announcer, there is a fluidity to where you
could do wrestling, you could do MMA, you could do
anything else that obviously needs a host or an MC
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of some sort. So that is more versatile than I
think a commentary. But also at the same time, like
we talked about, we've got you know, Corey Graves, You've
got a Bobby the Brain, We've got a Michael Cole,
Jim Ross, like you have these iconic people, and yeah,
obviously in your head you're like, oh, yeah, I could
do that, but once you actually get into it, and
you're like, oh, well, maybe I don't feel as comfortable,
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But once you actually get into it, you really want
to just continue to it.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I really wanted to
do commentaries. I felt like so many of them are
the voice of childhood, you know, watching pro wrestling and
stuff and watching MMA and just commentary, but those are
the voices you hear the whole show. So it's like
I wanted to do that, and I still really love
doing that. And when I get that opportunity, but it is.
It's an interesting thing because I feel like I'm a
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bigger part of the show when I do commentary, so
I love that. But like, after the show, no one
in the crowd cares about you because no one saw
you at all. Yeah they didn't hear yeah right, And
it's always weird. I was trying to invite friends and
family to shows and they're like, oh, you're a commentary
We didn't hear see you at all. You just like
you weren't even on the show. Really great, but then
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when you do ring announcing, you feel the crowd, you
feel the energy. Afterwards, people are like, hey, great job.
You know, You're like, oh, thank you, and it's like
it's very it's so weird. It's just such different worlds.
I know a lot of times people compare them, but
they're are just different different worlds.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Well, how do you kind of keep up the energy
when it does come to commentating, because it is the
only break you get is when the ring announcers talking
or if somebody else is talking, which is a lot
of times just seconds.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
So what is that you know, krying of keep that
energy throughout the whole show.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
A lot of times the wrestlers. They're a big part
of it. I will say I want to ever say names,
but like you know, if you're on commentary and there's
a dud match, it becomes pretty tough to be honest, yeah,
because you're trying to sell that this is an interesting matchup,
and if it's a dud, it's it becomes tough. But
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I find that if you I always try to just
make sure I have stuff to talk about so that
if I do, like when I if it does become
like a low energy match, then I just have things
to talk about. So I always try to make sure
I have the show's coming like list of shows coming up,
you know, and I always try to have matches later
on in the night. I also try to have a
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freech wrestler. I always have like what I call the
like who are they, why are they here? What is
their goal? You know, these kind of things. And just
so you know, if I'm watching a match between two
people and let's say they've been in a sleeper hole
for five minutes and we're like, okay, we're sitting here,
then I can just go to you know, later on
tonight we have that big championship matchup between X and Y,
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and then if you know, if you have color, you
just go what do you think about that one?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
You know, they'll talk and you just talk about that
match for a while, or if you're fortunate enough to
have a sponsor, you can be like just a reminder
that this match is brought to us by and you
just talk about the sponsors and you just try to
have all those different things again or again if it's
like who are they or why are they here? Uh?
You know, Solo Sokoa is the uh you know, was
once part of the blood line now trying to establish
(33:55):
Dotamans with his own blood line. You know, you just
tell the story about those things. Why if it's born.
But if it's high energy and it's a great matchup,
then as a fan, I'm still a fan, Like so
I get really into it. If it's a big matchup
and they're doing great, I get into it. I'm like,
oh my god, this is great? Are you kidding me?
We get to watch this. So I hope anyone who
hears this now, if they hear my commentary and I'm like,
(34:16):
oh yeah, later on tonight we have this show, they're like, oh, Jack.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Didn't like my MA, he's trying to fill the time.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
But yeah, and that goes for MMA too. I've done
some MMA work and boxing work, and it's actually tough
for in boxing because in boxing sometimes, at least in
the ones I've done, sometimes you know a match will
end and they'll say, hey, Jack, we need you to
fill twenty minutes before the next match, and it's like, okay,
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so you got to figure out that kind of stuff
to talk about, and so that gets a little bit trickier.
We're wrestling, surprisingly can actually can hum along compared to
MMA sometimes.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, it's yeah, because you're telling more of a story
as obviously still telling the story with the common that sports,
but you know those really helped tell them sort of
help themselves, you know, throughout the bound themselves.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, with MMA also you can kind of just say
what's happening, like that's that's really like because that's kind
of what you're there for. Like if boxerer A is
punching boxer B in the face, like A he punched
him in the face, Where if it's wrestling, there's like
a you have to worry about how you're portraying the
story and the characters, and you can't even if you
know what's happening, you can't give it away. At the
(35:28):
same time, it's a very it's a it's like a
very fine line to dance on in pro wrestling with MMA,
you're like, listen, this is what's happening. Yes, you know
conrac Gregor got punched in the face. What do you
want me to say?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Well, I have a segmented so I call it the
five counts, just five random questions.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
What are you nerding out on right now?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Right now? It's well, I kind of am just finishing it.
But I finally caught up and watched and Or.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Okay, I have not watched the season, so I heard.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, I won't spoil anything, but I watched. I kind
of binged it. I watched the first it's only two seasons,
and then I did Rogue one and a New Hope
right afterwards, and it was a it was a great
like little it's a great story that's sort of a
full sort like because you know it obviously all goes
(36:26):
into each other that it feels like a full, complete story,
and it's like, oh wow, I just I will say,
after watching Rogue one and Or Star Wars. I love
Star Wars. It feels a little silly after watching and
Ors so serious, you know, and Rogue one is so
serious and heavy, and then you know, Hans Soula is like,
(36:46):
we'll kill five or ten stormtroopers, no big deal. You know,
they're all just like joking around about finding all these stormtroopers,
like they were pretty serious about it the other show.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
They were way War Zero's on the other.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
But it's still it's still good though, You're like, okay, cool,
they do all this stuff to get to this point,
and then it feels like a nice happy ending at
the end of a New Hope spoiler or a New
Hope has.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
A happy ending to some, to others not so much.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I guess, yeah, if you were they were on the
desk Star.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, you were the one of the some of the
families that were still on.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
The Death Star afterwards. Right, they're not happy about it,
no Ah.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Number two.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
If you owned a liquor company, brewery, wine, or your
a coffee shop, which one would you own and what
would the name be?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Ooh, I would have a coffee shop and I would
call it Farmer's Beans. I guess I don't really.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Go it's not already taking it needs to.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Be probably probably, or I'm I'm too much of a
self promoter. I guess I'd be like Jack Farmers Beans
is probably what I'd call it, and then no one
would like it, but.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I bet they would. Somebody would like it. What was
your first car?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
The first car I owned was a nineteen eighty two
Toyota Celica.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, it was a so not to get too far
into it, but my uncle used to own a tow
truck company. It's like the contractor, I guess, and he
did demolition and stuff. And so before I the first
car I owned, I drove like twenty different cars that
were like on their last legs before breaking down, because
he just like, drive this one until it breaks down,
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like okay. Then I drive it and it gets stranded,
and go, okay, here's a new one. Drive this one.
And it'd always just be some clunker with like different
colored panels and stuff. And then the eighty two Selica
was the first one I bought.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Though, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Number four.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Who or what inspires you?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Ooh, I guess it kind of changes day today. This
is it's not a wrestling or or a ring announcing
or mma person. But right now, someone I find really
inspiring is mister Rogers. He's kind of the person just
because everything he's I feel like, everything he said and
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did was always just uplifting and positive and helpful and
not self serving. And I don't know, it just seems
like someone who's like man like, how can you not
be inspired by that? And I feel like, I don't
know if there's ever been a moment in that man's
life that is, at least anyone's ever talked about that
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he wasn't like a good person, And so I don't know,
just just I find I find that very inspiring to me.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Now we need more mister Rogers in the world.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Absolutely, we do.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Actually now yeah, we need like we need a social
media mister Rogers.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Right now, mister Rogers a few was on social media.
I think would would would be a nice influence on everyone.
I don't think he'd judge anybody, and I don't think
he'd be disappointed. I think he would just help us
be better exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And what would you tell your seventeen year old.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Self, buckle up, kiddo, uh, because yeah, it's gonna be
a wild ride.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
I don't think my seventeen year old self would have
predicted anything that has happened in my life the way
it's happened. So that's not a bad thing though, No, No,
I dig it. I think when I was seventeen, I
thought I was going to be some sort of a businessman,
but I would have been very unhappy. I think if
I was a businessman, may have more money, but I'd
probably be very unhappy.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
You could, yeah, you could vacation more and uh probably
you know, pay for more things, but would you really
be more happy?
Speaker 1 (40:54):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
No, there are so many people in this world that
you know, you get to meet and you get to
chat with and hang out with, like and places you
get to go and things you get to do that
Like when I was seventeen, I would have thought I
was crazy. You know, there's no way that's gonna happen.
But yeah, I'm yeah, I just say, buckle up. I
feel like if I gave my seventeen year OLDLF too
much information, I just ruined things, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Rue, you'd just be looking for it the entire time.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, like I was always says, Oh, I tell myself
to like buy you know, bitcoin or something. If I
did that, I'd probably I'd mess it all up, and
then my life as it is would probably be worse.
I don't know. I'm an eight. I said I was
an eight at the beginning. That's a pretty high. I
don't want to mess it up. I feel like maybe
I just keep my keep it to myself. If I
met my seventeen year old self, don't mess this up.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I think my seventeen yearsself be like, you look familiar you,
I feel like I know you, don't I don't know you?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Get out of here.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I would. I'd probably go to my seventeen year old
self and my seventeen year old sief self would say
who's this old guy? And I just my feelings would
be hurt, like forget you kid, get.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Out of here, stupid loser, just go driveway and that
crappy card.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, get out of here, the stupid selica.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Well, if people would have defined you online, follow you,
book you for a wedding book you obviously to commentate,
ring announcer or whatever it is. How can they do
all the things?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, the best way to do that is to follow
me on social media at real Jack Farmer across all
social media is where you can find me. I always
imposting things I'm working on there and has links to
all my like my website and everything like that. It's
the easiest way at real Jack Farmer.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
There we go, Jack, I love this conversation. I feel
like we could have talked way longer.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
But I imagine you'll be in Vegas next year and
wrestling anytime, and as will I, so we definitely need
to sit down at some point.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, we got to meet up when we're out there.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You know what's funny is we may have walked right
by each other.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
I almost guarantee you.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, I ast guarantee didn't even know it. I guess
the crazy thing about wrestling fandom is you go to
these things like, man, I probably have seen all these
people on meeting before, but I just didn't know it.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
You just pass them all the time and there's just
regular people, and then you have to sit down when
they're like, oh we have okay.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Thank you so much to Jack for being on the
show again. Definitely make sure to check him out when
he is up in DeFi when he's doing all the
other fun things, and also if you note an event
DJ or a wedding J. He's your man, So definitely
check out Jack Farmer and definitely see what he's going
to be doing on social media and why a you're
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Welcome to Bruisers, a podcast about beer, coffee, booze and bruisers.
I'm your host, Roddy John and today we talked to
Jack Farmer. We talked about his journey in pro wrestling,
ring announcing, and so much more. Jack is doing absolutely
awesome things over in the Pacific Northwest and obviously in
California too, So you don't want to hear from me,
you want to hear from him. So, without further ado,
(00:40):
here is Jack Farmer. I would like to welcome to
show Jack Farmer. How are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm an eight out of ten so far.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
That that's pretty high.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, you know, I feel like it's a pretty good day.
Always could get a little bit better. So you gotta
leave a little room at the top there, yeah, you know,
just in case. You know, if I win the lottery,
then I feel silly of saying it was already a ten.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well do you play the lottery on a regular basis?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, not really, And I don't have a lot of
ticket now, so I don't know. I don't know, but
you never know. Anything could happen. It's true.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I did it for like a month's band, just the numbers,
not the scratch offs and shockingly that it did not.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
The ratio is not good.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I would say I do it like once every
six months, just for fun. And I find when I
played the lottery it's less about thinking I'm gonna win
it and more about like it helps me dream build
a little bit, like, oh, lottery, what would I do
with the money? And I start to think about it,
and then I sometimes forget I have the ticket until
like three days after the numbers or drawn.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Oh yeah, I'm only check to see if I'm a millionaire.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, and I haven't been yet.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
No, not yet yet? Is operative word there? Or for
those listening kind of panish for word pictures? Where are
you at? What's going on around you?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
So?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I live in Los Angeles, California. It is a beautiful
sunny day. It's one of the reasons I love living
here in California. But I am in I would say
it's my recording studio, but really it's just a little
nook in the side of my in my house. So
that's where I am right now and just living the
good life. You know, where are you located?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I'm actually in DFW, Texas. Yeah, North Texas, Okay, very cool.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, I did you go to WrestleMania when it was
in town.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I've been to the last sixteen, so yes.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Oh okay, were you excited that it was in your
hometown or was it kind of like, oh, there goes.
I was going to go on a trip, but now
I'm just going to stay home.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So that's funny because every year we do look forward
to I always go with my buddy Eric, shout out
to Eric, and we always do look forward to a
new city. Anytime they repeat a city like it was
supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Again New Orleans year, and we're like, oh, We've already
been there a couple of times. Plus my ex you know,
one of my ex girlfriends are from there, so I've
been there multiple times. But then they end up going
back to Vegas and we're like, well, fuck, we already
went there again.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's uh. I've been to the last few
since since Dallas. Actually Dallas was actually my first WrestleMania.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Oh the first, the first one.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, that was the That was the first WrestleMania I'd
ever been to, and I've been to them since, and yeah,
find out it's gonna be in Vegas again. It's a
little bit like, oh, like Vegas is cool, but hey, yeah,
like we did that already.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Right exactly.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
This is the first time since I guess what four
and five that they have gone back to back where.
But I mean, you know, there wasn't anybody. I'm not
saying there's no one who has traveled to every single WrestleMania,
but I'm doubting people that went back to four and
five are also now going to where do we at
forty two and forty three?
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Like that, I don't see it happening.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, And if they are, then they're probably at an
age where they're probably not hitting the town too hard anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
They're like, yeah, they're they're catching that nap because they
gotta it goes way too late for them.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Right right, Yeah, it's hard from the stand they leave
after the third match because right.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Or they just decided to come in real late so
that way they can catch actually the end of it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
But lucky for them, they get their early bird special
dinner before the show starts. Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, Plus, the buffets in Vegas are just bar none,
some of the best in the world.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Oh, Vegas. I mean that's it's kind of a double
edged sword because Vegas was actually one of I think
my favorite cities for it to be and like, this
is perfect place, but it's just boring that it's in
the same spot because also so much of the personality
of Vegas is the city it's in, like a New
Orleans or like Philly or Dallas, like so much of
(04:50):
it is because of where you're at, right, and so
to lose that is a little bit like or to
repeat it because when they did Tampa because of COVID
obviously like years in a row, it's a bit like, oh, okay,
we're doing the buccaneer theme again. Okay, okay, but yeah,
I guess, I don't know. Hopefully they do at least
a different theme this time around.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, I do wonder that too, because I mean, yes,
we are going back to back or they're saying double down.
But at the same time, I'm like, okay, are we
doing a different theme for Vegas, because they didn't do
that big of a different theme for New Orleans because
it was thirty and then I think it was thirty
four and it was just like yeah, big Florida le masks.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Done and done, like that's New Orleans. We figured it out.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Right, right, yeah, so I wouldn't get I wouldn't assume
they're doing anything crazy different, but I hope. I hope
they do, just because that's part of the fun, is
the theme and the vibe of each each stop. I
look at like, I'm originally from the Seattle area, and
I know that that wasn't the most successful WrestleMania, but
I was like, send send it back to Seattle. They
could use the WrestleMania. Yeah at all time.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I haven't been to Seattle in a very long time,
and I would love to go there for that would
be That was one of my favorite cities just to
go to in general, let alone, one need to go
see wrestling there.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Seattle is a great visiting city for sure. Growing up there,
it's cool. I have no bad feelings towards Seattle, but
it's not the biggest city in the world. So it's
nice to visit because you get to kind of see
it all like in a visit, but if you live there,
you see it all in a visit every time. Yeah, okay,
it sat Well, let's go all the way back in time.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
What is your earliest memory of wrestling?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
So I was watching wrestling before this, but my earliest
memory is and it was funny, is I don't even
know if I was watching this live because my cousin used
to always babysit me, and he'd bring over wrestling tapes.
And that was how I watched wrestling to start, is
I would he would bring over tapes, I would watch them,
so I didn't necessarily watch wrestling in any particular order
or understand that. And he'd always bring over Royal Rumble tapes.
(06:53):
And so the the oldest memory I remember actually washing
was the Royal Rumble. I think it was nine three
when Rick Flair.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Won, Yes, that was ninety two, ninety two.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I just remember being so confused by that ending. It
stuck with me with the like I remember like, why
is Hogan being such a poor sport?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Right? Like?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
And I remember thinking first I was surprised he lost,
Like why is Hogan losing? That's because I was I
was still young enough, Like what.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
He didn't lose anything?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, Hogan? What do you mean Hogan lost? And then
he was like why is it He's a poor sport?
Like why is he doing like this?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Is?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It felt so weird to me. I didn't even I
was at a young enough age where I the idea
of Rick Flair going the distance didn't even like register
to me. It was, hold on, let's hould Cogan doing
He's he's the hero. I don't get it, Like I
was so confused by it, and that's why I think
it stuck with me watching it. But that is probably
the oldest oldest memory I have.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Now everyone talks about that war rumble is one of
the best war rumbles there are, which for the most part.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
It is obviously you know, like you said, at the end,
you get the refusing this of like I thought Hogan
was a good guy. Why is he doing this to
sid and then like you know, yeah, and then Rick
Flair dumps him over. But the best thing about the
entire match is Bobby Heenan's commentary because he is a
he's Rick Flair's manager and he's also on commentary. Ric
Flair goes into number one and yeah, like you said,
(08:18):
goes the distance, and so like the emotional roller coaster
of listening to Bobby Heenan, and obviously by the end
his voice is gone, it's the best. So I think
that's one of the best word rumbles just for that.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh, Bobby Heenan is so good. I feel like, I
mean this in the best way. He's so good. He
kind of ruined I think a few generations of the
future commentary people because they want so bad to be
Bobby the brain Heena on commentary. But there's only one
Bobby the brain heenan and you know, bless their heart.
I think a lot of us try to be Bobby
(08:50):
the brain on commentary. Sometimes it's like, sorry, man, there's
only one, only one Bobby. He was so good. He's
so good. He's one those guys that's so good that
we've all like forgotten some of the lines that would
be other people's greatest lines if they said it, you
know what I.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Mean, Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
He just has a collection of them, and you're like,
you just rattle them all off and yeah, like you said,
how many other commentators have that laundry list of lines
you could just rattle off like.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
That, right, and they're all fantastic. He would just have
throwaway lines that were just so funny or so good
or it wasn't just funny. But he he sold the matches,
he sold, the wrestlers, he sold. He he actually did
his job and was very funny at the same time,
which I find it very difficult to find people who
can balance that.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, and it wasn't just getting He wasn't getting himself
over either, like unless he had like a genuine beef
with somebody, like obviously he always had something against Hogan.
And then I.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Remember a boss Man there was a match and he
was commentating and he had a bandage on his hand
and he was like, yeah, probably from getting his handcought in
the cash register.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
And I was like, that's.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Genius, that's so good. Yeah, he always it was never
about That was also true. It was never about him.
It was always every joke he made all made you
lean as a viewer one way or the other the
way you were supposed to, because he was a jerk,
so you'd always be like, oh, if he likes this guy,
then that must be a jerk too, or if he
hates this guy, then he must be the good guy.
(10:12):
And but what I love about him too is he
was always I always say he's he was honest in
the sense that you know, he hated Hogan, and then
when Hogan turned, he still hated Hogan. He didn't he
wasn't like a lot of people was like, oh, well
now I like him because he's a bad guys say no,
I hate Hogan, I hate him, I hate what he's doing.
Which I always appreciate that about Bobby Heenan. He didn't
just he wasn't say I hate this person just because
(10:33):
they're a good guy or a bad guy. But it
was like, no, this person I hate regardless. It just
happened to be most of the time if they were
bad guys. Exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I don't see that much nowadays, Like we almost see
the commentators. Obviously, we see the main play by play
commentator is going to be the person that's.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Right down the middle.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
They they're gonna call everything the way you know, the
balls strikes, the way it is. But then the other person,
I feel like almost needs to be that more gray
area person, not that they need to be a complete
heel the entire time. If they are, that's fine and
they can carry on on. Don Kallis does a fantastic
job in that, but he's just a natural heel. But yeah,
there are just I almost feel like we're getting away
(11:13):
from that and it's almost we're having two of the
play by play guys because we've got to really push
over that this is a bad thing they're doing, or
this is a really good thing they're doing.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, it's I think some of I get what you're saying.
I think there are some guys who struggle with that, yeah,
And I think it's because there's so much going on
too that sometimes people I don't you know, I think
they feel like they're probably directing so much traffic at
these days, because especially if you're looking at like a WWE,
where they have so many shows and so many brands
(11:45):
and so many wrestlers and so many things to promote,
it's tough for one person. And you know, blessed Michael
Cole for being able to do it as well as
he does. But there's so much stuff. I think sometimes
you just need multiple people to take that on. And
I think also you got a lot of people, and
I don't know what their agendas are or anything, but
I also think you got someone like Corey Graves who
(12:06):
probably wants to move into a play by play role
at some point and so probably wants to show what
he can do on play by play when he's on
the call and trying to lend to that a little
bit as well, so when that next opportunity comes up,
he can get it as opposed to just being the
straight color guy, even though I think he's great at both.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
So, yeah, I think I liked him more when he
was a little more heel and he was more sympathetic
to the heels, and I thought it was great because again,
we don't get it very much.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah, he's so I mean this in the most respectful
positive way. He just seems like he'd be a jerk,
and so when he talks, you just see you think like, oh, yeah,
he wouldn't like people. He would he would like the jerk,
he would like the person that cheats or whatever. He
he just has that way about him. I think when
he tries to be a nice guy, you kind of no,
(12:52):
you don't. You don't think that you don't like you
don't like Cody Rhodes. Come on, what are you talking about?
Like we get just say yeah, yeah, you know. I So,
I think that's a part of it too, where he
just feels naturally that's where he should be. And I'm
a big believer in if that's how we naturally see
people like let him run in that direction. It's how
(13:13):
I feel about like wrestlers too. And there's someone we
all clearly love, but they try to make them like
a bad guy or something. I'm like, like, let me
cheer them. I like them. Why are we Why are
we making me try? Why are you trying to make
me boo this person I clearly want to cheer.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I mean they do the same thing with Charlotte Flare
all the time, making her a face and it's like no, sorry, Like, yes,
a lot of the fans do love her, but there
are so many people out there that just do not
like her. And then also she just comes off better.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
To me when she is kind of like that, that
holier than now, like I am the Queen, you will
about down to me kind of thing as opposed to, hey, guys,
I'm just a really good wrestler and I'm gonna do
I'm gonna do all the good things. Like no, nobody
wants to see that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Sorry. Yeah, there's very much a Tom Brady aspect, yeah
versus where where. Yeah, she's incredible and I good appreciate that,
but I don't because she beats all my favorites, you know,
Like I'm a Seahawks fan and he beats my Seahawks.
I hate Tom Brady, but like I should I should
love him. He's the best of all time. But that's
I think Charlotte Flair has a lot of that where
(14:13):
she's so good that of course I hate her because
that's just how people are. We hate greatness, you know,
let me hate greatness.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Okay, I guarantee there's people that are non Michael Jordan
fans as well, So.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yes, oh yeah, it's funny in rear view. Everyone feels
like they're a Michael Jordan fan. But when he was,
when he was hot, Nah, I didn't like Michael Jordan.
He always beat my SuperSonics exactly, beat us so bad
we're not around anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Nope, that team went on to win a championship in
another city.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Oh I'm so heartbroke, and I'm such a hater of
the thunder Now.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
It's so funny because anytime Benny Wrestling goes back to Seattle,
they will always bring up the SuperSonics and is the
loudest boo that you will you will hear because it
is a very sore subject.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Still, it is still a very sore subject, and we
still all have this hope that we're going to get
a team back. I don't think we're getting a team
back anytime soon. But there's still this this hope in
Seattle that oh, we're gonna get one soon, it's gonna happen.
I don't think it's gonna happen soon.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
And it's funny because they just I just saw the
w NBA is adding like four more teams in the
NBA is like, nope, we're straight anything.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, well, w NBA is growing, so that's yes, they are. Yeah,
I'm very happy for that. Yeah. I'm always happy to
see growth in sports and opportunities. So happy for them there.
That's it's great that it's blown up and people notice
how good they are.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It took them long enough.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, yeah, well how did you get in a ring
announcing yourself? Because you are the DeFi ring announcer and
then you also work with who's the other company?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I forget too. I do Defy Prestige, I do pretty regularly,
Championship Wrestling. I do Santino Bros. I do a few.
I did PwC Ultra or PCW Ultra for a little bit.
They haven't ran a show in a little bit. I
don't know if they plan on doing another one soon,
but so I'm here and there I go. I go around.
(16:11):
But yeah, I used to say, used to I I
was a DJ. I'm a DJ at DJ weddings and
things like that, and.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That is a very.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Pressuring but also fun job because you're the dude or
lady who is hyping everybody up to make sure everyone
is having the best time, that no one forgets that wedding.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, it's it's a very high pressure job because I
always say it's it's every show is the super Bowl
for somebody, Like if it's the couple, it's their super Bowl.
You don't get another opportunity. And I always say with
the wedding DJ, half the people there are plus ones
and they don't know anybody, and they don't necessarily care
about being there, and you still got to help make
sure they have a good time. But I'm still doing
(16:54):
that and I love it. But I was like, I
want to expand my horizons, you know, do different and things.
I wanted to learn about broadcasting. So I started work
with a company called after Buzz TV, ran by Maria
Manunos and Kevin and Degaro, and they had like an
INN with WWE. As far as like Maria and Nunos,
(17:15):
I guess she does a lot of stuff with them,
and I had a friend that worked there and he
got me in and so funny enough, they were like, hey,
can you cover pro wrestling? And I was like, yeah,
I can. I can cover pro wrestling, And so I
started doing their after shows for like after Raw, after
their pay per views AW started, and they were hesitant
(17:36):
to do an aw after show, but I was like, no,
we got to do an after show. I'll host, I'll
run the whole thing. I did that, and then the
pandemic hit and everything closed. They closed, they stopped doing shows,
and of course I was in djned weddings during that
time either, so I'm sitting around and I I'm like,
I got to look for something else to do, and
wrestling was still doing shows to empty arenas and so on.
(17:59):
LinkedIn reached out to David Marquez, who once owned NWA.
Now he owns United Wrestling Network and Championship Wrestling, and
I just reached out to him and I said, hey,
i'd be I want to help out. I've done, you know,
I've hosted events and things. And he says, okay, coming
(18:19):
on Tuesday for an interview. We're doing a show on Tuesday.
Come in and we'll have you do an interview there.
I was like, okay, so I show up. I'm minn
a suit. I've got my resume with me, you know.
And he goes, great, put that down, and I put
down the resume and he goes, here's a microphone. You're
going to interview Ray Ross. And I was like, Oh,
(18:42):
that's I'm doing an interview. I thought I was coming
into interview for the job, not interview someone. And so
it was a show called Primetime Live and it was
on pay per view, and I interviewed a wrestler. I
had no idea what I was doing, and I did
a few interviews and that's basically how I got started.
(19:04):
And I did that for a little bit, and I
was like, I need to learn a little bit more,
and so I started going to Santino Bros. Wrestling where
they trained wrestlers, and I took there. I took a
dated what they call an advocates class where they teach
you how to do the broadcast inside the commentary of
the ring, announcing and stuff. I did that, and I
took their Beginner's course for actual wrestling because I wanted
(19:27):
to know what's going on in the ring too. And
through that I obviously started working for them, and then
that was kind of what gave me the confidence and
the ability to move on to different things from there.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Very nice, but.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I would say, really the main thing is I just
sort of awkwardly said hey, can I help out? And
I showed up and started doing stuff and didn't know
what I was doing. And you know, there's a lot
of things I cringe out when I look back at
some of my first shows, but that's how you do it.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, how did you end up finding what your groove
really is? Because there are so many like I'm where
am I a roughly a year in now to being
an actual full on ring announcer, and I did the
you know, aftermatch interviews before that, and then you know,
it was always one of those things where you know,
someone didn't show up where they didn't get booked, and like,
(20:19):
hey can you do it? Of course, and I did
and then ended up getting booked now and I.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Work in Arkansas once a month, so you know, obviously
trying to get closer to home, so let's travel or
just you know, work as much as possible. But how
did you end up finding your groove to what you
what your style was? And then obviously who were some
people that you kind of pick and chose from, Like, oh,
I like the way they did this, or I like
the way they maybe enunciate this part.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah. So my first thing is, uh, my dream and
my goal is always to be on as big of
a stage as possible, So that'd be WWE, that'd be
a w So I would just watch and listen to
how they do it. I'm a big Buffer fan. I'm
a fan of both the Buffer brothers. So a lot
of my early stuff was literally me trying to copy
(21:08):
how they sound, you know, this is how they do it.
And then I started watching and paying a little bit
more attention to like WWE and and how they do
their announcements and so like when they do an announcement
like Cody Rhoades, it is, you know, from Atlanta, Georgia,
weighing two hundred and twenty two pounds, the American Nightmare,
(21:28):
Cody Rhoads, and so I that's literally how they say it.
So I started taking out like he is the American nightmare.
He is, Like they don't say that, they just say
the American Nightmare, Cody Roads. And so I started this
is how they would say it, you know, and I
started trying to you know, certain wrestlers and things, as
(21:49):
you probably know, they have their own special way and
you don't say it that way. You know, you'll they'll
have some different like Jake's something. He is like just
this is Jake something. You know, that's that's how you
say his name, but that's how you announce him. And
certain people have different ways. But for the most party,
I said, I try to take out all that stuff.
(22:09):
I try to. I noticed that, like they don't elongate
certain things like the weight. You know, they don't like
two hundred and twenty two, Like no.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
They like, are you putting so much emphasis on numbers?
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Right? Right? So they just kind of they get through
that and they you know, I try to figure out
how they do it.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
They're even at WW they're all different and like Alicia
Taylor has a bit more of a growl to her
where you know, uh, Mike Rome is a little bit more.
He's got a powerful voice. But it's a bit more
clear that I'm forgetting the name of the guy I'm
SmackDown right now.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
You think it's Clark or something.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Clark.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I only know that because there's some Reddit thread recently,
like what do you think of the new announcers?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
And I was like, I mean, I could do it,
but you yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I think the new guy's doing a great job for
what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
He's got like a sing song any kind of way
of doing things, and so everyone's a little different, but
I try to listen to those. And a piece of
advice I got, actually, really the most recent advice I
got was from QT Marshall actually, and it was something
that he was told by Justin roberts Is And it
sounds so basic, but I wasn't doing it, and it
was the heels need to be announced one way and
(23:22):
the faces should be announced one way, and so your
voice should reflect kind of what side of the fence
they're on. So like if it's if it's a bad guy,
you shouldn't be like it's Drew MacIntire, you know, like
why are you talking like yeah, like you should. It
should have that reflection of like, this is a bad person.
But if it's a good person, it should you should
(23:44):
reflect that this is a fun person. And really every
aspect of what you're doing is trying to put that
person over and if they're a bad guy, you need
to make it sound like this is a bad person.
If it's a mischievous person, make it sound like they're
miss gievous, if they're happy, go lucky, you know what
I mean, and like try to add that to the announcement.
(24:05):
But yeah, really just coughying people.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That's true though.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, but you know, and you find you're probably saying
the same way where you find stuff like, oh, they
do that, but I'm not really into that. I don't
want to do that, right and then and then certain
things where you're like, oh, that's cool, I would I'll
take that part, but I'll leave the other part out
or whatever. Right, I find if I growl too much,
I lose my voice, so I can't do too much
growlly stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But right, no, I've been wondering that too, because, like
I the growling does sound cool certain certain obviously during
certain matches or whoever you're announcing it, but yeah, your voice,
if it's the first person, you can't be growling that
much because then you still got to have a little
bit for that next person. Obviously you get that break
in between the matches. But like you don't want to
(24:47):
be like coughing, and you know, trying to get your
air back after announcing somebody, Well, what do you kind
of do to kind of save your voice when it
comes to like day up?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
So I try to talk as little as possible on
the day of. I mean, I'm not like weird about it, like.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Tapping and yeah right.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, but like I don't yo yelling across the room
and all that stuff. I always bring cough drops with
me and I'll usually have a obscene amount of those
during the show, just to be on the safe side,
you know. I started trying to do warm ups something
I'm kind of newer in. One thing I've heard to
(25:30):
do and I started doing it is I got a
big box of those little coffee straws, you know, like
the really small thin ones, and you just blow into
one of those for a little bit beforehand. I guess
it kind of opens up your voice box. I've been
told that I'm not a biologist or anything. I don't
know if it works, but I've told okay, I'm gonna
do it. Then I also started doing like just like
(25:55):
a you kind of like hum and try to feel
the like where it's hit in your throat, getting up
and down, up and down, up and down to kind
of like you know, just that kind of stuff to
warm it up. And then and this is something that's
kind of actually tough to do, and you get this.
(26:17):
I think it's tough for all ring announcers, is if
it is like the first match and stuff like don't
announce everybody like they're the biggest star in the world, right,
And it's it's tough because you want to, I, that's
our moment to shine. So yeah, you want to like
like give them, give them the full meal deal every time.
(26:40):
But like again, if we're using you know, w W
as an example, for instance, I love a here to Zawa,
but you're not gonna give a cure to Zawa, the
biggest entrance in the company when he comes out. But
you still you still have to make it sound good.
That's the balance is you have to make it sound good.
But also like this clearly isn't Roman reigns someone else,
(27:01):
and so you save those big moments for the Roman reigns,
and that's when you definitely like, look, I'm gonna growl,
I'm gonna give you everything, and my voice may be
shot after that, but this is the one that counts,
you know.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, Now I had watched Hot ones with Ariana Grande,
and she had mentioned the whole like humming, like in
the range of like going up and then coming back
down and then and all that. So yeah, I had
heard a lot of those before, and I've been trying
to work that as well, but a lot of times
it'll end up being showtime, like damn it, I didn't
do any work or any one, I'll just got to
(27:32):
go out there.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, there's a I think it's always okay because I
messed that up sometimes as well. I think it's like
in between matches, even if you've already started, like you know,
you're sitting there. I don't know what other jobs you
have when you show. Sometimes you know your timekeeper. Sometimes
you're also raining the bell and stuff. But if you
have the opportunity, you could just do it, Like maybe
you do the first ring entrance and you're like, okay,
(27:55):
now while I'm waiting for the first match, start doing
it to try to it. I was kind of trying
to do it throughout the show as well, just to
keep it a little bit loose, and it's it's hard
to explain, but I think you'll get it too, Like
if you feel like your vocal cords are getting a
little worn. You can kind of like find a different
like level in your voice, like kind of go from
(28:16):
you know what I mean, and try to get through
it without straining it too much. I did a few
shows ago for Championship Wrestling. I don't know what happened.
I was doing a ringing entrance and like something like
popped in my throat and like my voice was like
gone for that show and I got through it, but
I was definitely ringing like ring announcing in a very
(28:37):
different way because it was like the way I, you know,
like my vocal cord felt gone, so I had to
be like talking from a different level here, so it was,
you know what I mean, so wise it'd be like
all squeaky or scratchy. And I was like, man, I
don't I don't know what happened, but that's now haunting
me every time I do a show, like.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Right, yeah, because then you're almost like, is it gonna
happen again? What caused that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah? Yeah? And it was like the third match in
a for champions Wrestling, we taped three shows, so we
do like eleven matches, and it was like the third
match and I was like, oh, no, this is not good,
and it was one qt Marshall's had. I was like, great,
the guy that I was hoping would see me, it's
not going to hear my voice is all shattered. But
(29:21):
that's the way it goes.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Well, how did the how did the world of commentating
come around for you? Or was it kind of just
one of those they needed somebody also and you're like, yep,
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, commentary was what I wanted to get into to start.
That was kind of the where I and I still
love doing commentary as well, and so I started to
work with that, but I found ring announcing just had
more opportunities to it. I feel like a lot of
times commentary people they get into place and they sort
(29:50):
of they own that spot for a very long time.
And so you know, those opportunities where ring announcing, for
whatever reason, at least in my experience, opportunities have come
up quite a bit, and so I take those. And
but commentary is a blast also that it's always weird.
People will compare them and I don't know, do you
(30:11):
do commentary as well? Are you?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I've been wanting to really bad, because again it's like
you said, it's one of those things where once you
get in that niche, people really want that, and like
you said, you kind of own it. But the being
the ring announcer, there is a fluidity to where you
could do wrestling, you could do MMA, you could do
anything else that obviously needs a host or an MC
(30:33):
of some sort. So that is more versatile than I
think a commentary. But also at the same time, like
we talked about, we've got you know, Corey Graves, You've
got a Bobby the Brain, We've got a Michael Cole,
Jim Ross, like you have these iconic people, and yeah,
obviously in your head you're like, oh, yeah, I could
do that, but once you actually get into it, and
you're like, oh, well, maybe I don't feel as comfortable,
(30:55):
But once you actually get into it, you really want
to just continue to it.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, that's one of the reasons I really wanted to
do commentaries. I felt like so many of them are
the voice of childhood, you know, watching pro wrestling and
stuff and watching MMA and just commentary, but those are
the voices you hear the whole show. So it's like
I wanted to do that, and I still really love
doing that. And when I get that opportunity, but it is.
It's an interesting thing because I feel like I'm a
(31:23):
bigger part of the show when I do commentary, so
I love that. But like, after the show, no one
in the crowd cares about you because no one saw
you at all. Yeah they didn't hear yeah right, And
it's always weird. I was trying to invite friends and
family to shows and they're like, oh, you're a commentary
We didn't hear see you at all. You just like
you weren't even on the show. Really great, but then
(31:43):
when you do ring announcing, you feel the crowd, you
feel the energy. Afterwards, people are like, hey, great job.
You know, You're like, oh, thank you, and it's like
it's very it's so weird. It's just such different worlds.
I know a lot of times people compare them, but
they're are just different different worlds.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Well, how do you kind of keep up the energy
when it does come to commentating, because it is the
only break you get is when the ring announcers talking
or if somebody else is talking, which is a lot
of times just seconds.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
So what is that you know, krying of keep that
energy throughout the whole show.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
A lot of times the wrestlers. They're a big part
of it. I will say I want to ever say names,
but like you know, if you're on commentary and there's
a dud match, it becomes pretty tough to be honest, yeah,
because you're trying to sell that this is an interesting matchup,
and if it's a dud, it's it becomes tough. But
(32:43):
I find that if you I always try to just
make sure I have stuff to talk about so that
if I do, like when I if it does become
like a low energy match, then I just have things
to talk about. So I always try to make sure
I have the show's coming like list of shows coming up,
you know, and I always try to have matches later
on in the night. I also try to have a
(33:07):
freech wrestler. I always have like what I call the
like who are they, why are they here? What is
their goal? You know, these kind of things. And just
so you know, if I'm watching a match between two
people and let's say they've been in a sleeper hole
for five minutes and we're like, okay, we're sitting here,
then I can just go to you know, later on
tonight we have that big championship matchup between X and Y,
(33:29):
and then if you know, if you have color, you
just go what do you think about that one?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
You know, they'll talk and you just talk about that
match for a while, or if you're fortunate enough to
have a sponsor, you can be like just a reminder
that this match is brought to us by and you
just talk about the sponsors and you just try to
have all those different things again or again if it's
like who are they or why are they here? Uh?
You know, Solo Sokoa is the uh you know, was
once part of the blood line now trying to establish
(33:55):
Dotamans with his own blood line. You know, you just
tell the story about those things. Why if it's born.
But if it's high energy and it's a great matchup,
then as a fan, I'm still a fan, Like so
I get really into it. If it's a big matchup
and they're doing great, I get into it. I'm like,
oh my god, this is great? Are you kidding me?
We get to watch this. So I hope anyone who
hears this now, if they hear my commentary and I'm like,
(34:16):
oh yeah, later on tonight we have this show, they're like, oh, Jack.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Didn't like my MA, he's trying to fill the time.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
But yeah, and that goes for MMA too. I've done
some MMA work and boxing work, and it's actually tough
for in boxing because in boxing sometimes, at least in
the ones I've done, sometimes you know a match will
end and they'll say, hey, Jack, we need you to
fill twenty minutes before the next match, and it's like, okay,
(34:46):
so you got to figure out that kind of stuff
to talk about, and so that gets a little bit trickier.
We're wrestling, surprisingly can actually can hum along compared to
MMA sometimes.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Yeah, it's yeah, because you're telling more of a story
as obviously still telling the story with the common that sports,
but you know those really helped tell them sort of
help themselves, you know, throughout the bound themselves.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, with MMA also you can kind of just say
what's happening, like that's that's really like because that's kind
of what you're there for. Like if boxerer A is
punching boxer B in the face, like A he punched
him in the face, Where if it's wrestling, there's like
a you have to worry about how you're portraying the
story and the characters, and you can't even if you
know what's happening, you can't give it away. At the
(35:28):
same time, it's a very it's a it's like a
very fine line to dance on in pro wrestling with MMA,
you're like, listen, this is what's happening. Yes, you know
conrac Gregor got punched in the face. What do you
want me to say?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Well, I have a segmented so I call it the
five counts, just five random questions.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
All right, let's do it.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
What are you nerding out on right now?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Right now? It's well, I kind of am just finishing it.
But I finally caught up and watched and Or.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Okay, I have not watched the season, so I heard.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, I won't spoil anything, but I watched. I kind
of binged it. I watched the first it's only two seasons,
and then I did Rogue one and a New Hope
right afterwards, and it was a it was a great
like little it's a great story that's sort of a
full sort like because you know it obviously all goes
(36:26):
into each other that it feels like a full, complete story,
and it's like, oh wow, I just I will say,
after watching Rogue one and Or Star Wars. I love
Star Wars. It feels a little silly after watching and
Ors so serious, you know, and Rogue one is so
serious and heavy, and then you know, Hans Soula is like,
(36:46):
we'll kill five or ten stormtroopers, no big deal. You know,
they're all just like joking around about finding all these stormtroopers,
like they were pretty serious about it the other show.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
They were way War Zero's on the other.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
But it's still it's still good though, You're like, okay, cool,
they do all this stuff to get to this point,
and then it feels like a nice happy ending at
the end of a New Hope spoiler or a New
Hope has.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
A happy ending to some, to others not so much.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I guess, yeah, if you were they were on the
desk Star.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, you were the one of the some of the
families that were still on.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
The Death Star afterwards. Right, they're not happy about it,
no Ah.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Number two.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
If you owned a liquor company, brewery, wine, or your
a coffee shop, which one would you own and what
would the name be?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Ooh, I would have a coffee shop and I would
call it Farmer's Beans. I guess I don't really.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Go it's not already taking it needs to.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Be probably probably, or I'm I'm too much of a
self promoter. I guess I'd be like Jack Farmers Beans
is probably what I'd call it, and then no one
would like it, but.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I bet they would. Somebody would like it. What was
your first car?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
The first car I owned was a nineteen eighty two
Toyota Celica.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, it was a so not to get too far
into it, but my uncle used to own a tow
truck company. It's like the contractor, I guess, and he
did demolition and stuff. And so before I the first
car I owned, I drove like twenty different cars that
were like on their last legs before breaking down, because
he just like, drive this one until it breaks down,
(38:38):
like okay. Then I drive it and it gets stranded,
and go, okay, here's a new one. Drive this one.
And it'd always just be some clunker with like different
colored panels and stuff. And then the eighty two Selica
was the first one I bought.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Though, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Number four.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Who or what inspires you?
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Ooh, I guess it kind of changes day today. This
is it's not a wrestling or or a ring announcing
or mma person. But right now, someone I find really
inspiring is mister Rogers. He's kind of the person just
because everything he's I feel like, everything he said and
(39:22):
did was always just uplifting and positive and helpful and
not self serving. And I don't know, it just seems
like someone who's like man like, how can you not
be inspired by that? And I feel like, I don't
know if there's ever been a moment in that man's
life that is, at least anyone's ever talked about that
(39:42):
he wasn't like a good person, And so I don't know,
just just I find I find that very inspiring to me.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Now we need more mister Rogers in the world.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Absolutely, we do.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Actually now yeah, we need like we need a social
media mister Rogers.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Right now, mister Rogers a few was on social media.
I think would would would be a nice influence on everyone.
I don't think he'd judge anybody, and I don't think
he'd be disappointed. I think he would just help us
be better exactly.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
And what would you tell your seventeen year old.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Self, buckle up, kiddo, uh, because yeah, it's gonna be
a wild ride.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
I don't think my seventeen year old self would have
predicted anything that has happened in my life the way
it's happened. So that's not a bad thing though, No, No,
I dig it. I think when I was seventeen, I
thought I was going to be some sort of a businessman,
but I would have been very unhappy. I think if
I was a businessman, may have more money, but I'd
probably be very unhappy.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
You could, yeah, you could vacation more and uh probably
you know, pay for more things, but would you really
be more happy?
Speaker 1 (40:54):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
No, there are so many people in this world that
you know, you get to meet and you get to
chat with and hang out with, like and places you
get to go and things you get to do that
Like when I was seventeen, I would have thought I
was crazy. You know, there's no way that's gonna happen.
But yeah, I'm yeah, I just say, buckle up. I
feel like if I gave my seventeen year OLDLF too
much information, I just ruined things, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Rue, you'd just be looking for it the entire time.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, like I was always says, Oh, I tell myself
to like buy you know, bitcoin or something. If I
did that, I'd probably I'd mess it all up, and
then my life as it is would probably be worse.
I don't know. I'm an eight. I said I was
an eight at the beginning. That's a pretty high. I
don't want to mess it up. I feel like maybe
I just keep my keep it to myself. If I
met my seventeen year old self, don't mess this up.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I think my seventeen yearsself be like, you look familiar you,
I feel like I know you, don't I don't know you?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Get out of here.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I would. I'd probably go to my seventeen year old
self and my seventeen year old sief self would say
who's this old guy? And I just my feelings would
be hurt, like forget you kid, get.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Out of here, stupid loser, just go driveway and that
crappy card.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, get out of here, the stupid selica.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Well, if people would have defined you online, follow you,
book you for a wedding book you obviously to commentate,
ring announcer or whatever it is. How can they do
all the things?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, the best way to do that is to follow
me on social media at real Jack Farmer across all
social media is where you can find me. I always
imposting things I'm working on there and has links to
all my like my website and everything like that. It's
the easiest way at real Jack Farmer.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
There we go, Jack, I love this conversation. I feel
like we could have talked way longer.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
But I imagine you'll be in Vegas next year and
wrestling anytime, and as will I, so we definitely need
to sit down at some point.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, we got to meet up when we're out there.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You know what's funny is we may have walked right
by each other.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
I almost guarantee you.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, I ast guarantee didn't even know it. I guess
the crazy thing about wrestling fandom is you go to
these things like, man, I probably have seen all these
people on meeting before, but I just didn't know it.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
You just pass them all the time and there's just
regular people, and then you have to sit down when
they're like, oh we have okay.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Thank you so much to Jack for being on the
show again. Definitely make sure to check him out when
he is up in DeFi when he's doing all the
other fun things, and also if you note an event
DJ or a wedding J. He's your man, So definitely
check out Jack Farmer and definitely see what he's going
to be doing on social media and why a you're
following him on social media. Make sure to follow us
(43:40):
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