July 31, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome to Bruisers podcast about beer, coffee, booze and bruisers.
I am your host, Roddy John and today we talked
to Lena Cross. We talked about her move to America,
the independent scene, and so much more. This is such
a fun conversation. Lena is doing absolutely amazing things, even
more so now that she's here in America. I can't
wait to see where she's being booked next. But you
don't want to hear from me, you want to hear
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from her. So without further ado, here is Lena Cross.
I would like to welcome a show lean across. How
are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I am doing fantastic. How are you going?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm doing well. So for those of listen kind of
penis the word picture. Where are you at? What's going
on around you?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm in my office area in Jersey City, my new
residence at the moment, So finally I feel like I've
settled in to the environment. It's absolutely crazy in Jersey
especially this part. There's just people. I don't know what
(01:29):
they're doing, They're just they're just crazy. How long you've
been in the States now, I've been coming in and
out for probably the last two years. And a bit years,
but officially moved. I think it was May this year. Wow, yeah, yeah,
(01:54):
officially officially.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, what how did that decision come?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It was kind of just the next progressive step I
think for me wrestling wise, coming from Australia. I've said
it before, but you kind of hit this glass ceiling
in Australia as a wrestler, just because we're so isolated
from everything, and you can wrestle with really good talent
(02:26):
and on really good promotions, but you know, the major
companies are really only coming down once every couple years
every year if you're lucky. So if you are wanting
to get noticed, you have to get yourself out. And
it kind of got to that point where I can
(02:48):
either stay in Australia, wait around for someone to come
down and see me and then hopefully they would take me,
but or I could just do it myself and make
the move on my own and sort of put myself
in a better position for opportunities to come to me.
(03:10):
And that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Congratulations, That's huge for a lot of people literally moving
to in a completely different part of the world country,
Like you know, luckily you speak the language for the
most part are English is a little different than yours. Yes, well,
how did you land on Jersey City? Because most people
move here, they more or less moved to Florida, it
(03:33):
seems like, so Jersey City.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Is interesting choice where the two. Well, originally it was
Florida going to Florida because I know quite a few
people down there and friends with the Aussies that are
living there, so there's definitely that support system. But in
regards to independent wrestling, there's not a whole lot in Florida,
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So if you were wanting to be booked and busy,
you would either have to fly yourself places or hope
that companies would want to fly you out, which me
coming into Australia, I know some people might know me,
but essentially you kind of have to step back and
(04:22):
establish yourself. So I thought about it, and Jersey's sort
of in that middle of that Northeast hub Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Philly,
surrounded by so many companies. I can get myself there
on my own, so companies sort of don't have to
(04:42):
invest too much to have me on their shows, and
it's just going to provide more opportunities for me to
establish myself within America.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Very true now you mentioned that. I mean, obviously it's
getting better now where you at least get a there yearly.
At Australia, it seems like, you know, obviously WWE, not
owned by TKO, is doing a better job as well,
because obviously they're tied in with the UFC, and the
UFC in Australia is massive. I mean, two of their
champions right now are Australian, so it makes more sense
(05:17):
for them to go regularly as well. But going back
in time, what was your earliest memory of pro wrestling?
Because it you know, like you said, you didn't get
much of the live stuff there and so like I'm
always curious, you know, what was it that grabbed you
for pro wrestling?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It was WWA So we had we have Foxtel, which
is basically the Australian cable, okay, and it would be
on a channel there and my brothers would watch it
and I just was enamored and fell in love with it.
Managed to go. My dad bought me tickets for a
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birthday one year when they were touring, which didn't happen
because usually they would miss Perth. Perth would kind of
get left off tours. So yeah, they came to Perth,
went with Dad. I think it would have been oh,
I want to say, oh four or so far, No,
(06:25):
maybe three around that that era. So yeah, very fortunate
to sort of see it live. I was very naive
and I thought w W was the only wrestling in
the world at that point, and honestly, like, I thought
that for a very long time. But then obviously the
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Internet came about social media, and yeah, I started to
realize that there's a lot more than just that one
company got introduced to the Australian independent scene. Obviously when
I started training and still learning so much about it.
(07:12):
But yeah, very so yeah, w w A was my
first inspiration for why I'm doing this. Much like a
lot of people, who.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Was it that really grabbed your attention and you were like,
oh wow, now I'm definitely into this.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
There are a few, but I think as a female
nutrition leader, we're probably like the two early ones where
just watching them and you're like that, that's amazing, Like
what are they doing? Like when they main evented raw
for the first time and it was like this is
this is cool? This is really really cool. Obviously they
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didn't have the same platform as women do now. So
it was like a lot of also Randy Orton, Eddie Guerrero, Edge,
Triple H. Yeah, I think I think I was drawn
to the bad guys more often than not. I would say, Well.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It is funny that way, because the heels almost have
a deeper story because of the fact that they're trying
to almost convince you that what they see is the
reality because that's what they see as opposed to the
good guys, like no, that's bad and I'm going to
tell you why I'm going to win, and because good
always wins. But yeah, it makes sense that the heels
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definitely have more of a deeper character than most of
the faces too.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I think they drew more emotional responses from me
in a way, I think compared to the faces at
the time.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, well, how did you actually realize that, Oh wait,
I can actually do this, Like I could do this,
Like this is real. You can't just be chosen.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
To do this. Yeah. So it was twenty seventeen, was
when I started training, so I was a little bit older.
But again i'd only recently sort of started watching the
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products and sort of really fell in love with it,
and I was at a points in my life where
I was a little bit bored with what I was doing,
and a few things happened and I thought this was
a childhood dream. You know, you only get one life.
I'm going to google a training school and just go
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down and do it, which I did ended up doing.
And at this start it was very much oh my god,
I'm wrestling in front of twenty people and I'm training
in this shed warehouse. But it's the best thing ever. Like,
And then I think as I got more experience, more opportunities,
(10:22):
I started traveling outside of Perth. I think I realized that, oh, actually,
maybe I could take this further. And I think it
was twenty twenty two when I did a sort of
back to back America and then I went straight to Japan, jeez,
(10:46):
And I think that validated a bit for me to go, Okay,
this could actually be your reality. Now what can you
do to make it happen? Did?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I mean, that's a huge jump obviously the travel to
but what is the actual travel to Japan. I know
it's a lot closer to y'all than it is to us,
but like, what is the travel time for y'all to Japan?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
So pretty much the same timeline, it's an hour off
depending where you are, and if you're flying from Sydney,
I think a direct is about nine and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Jeez. Okay, yeah, straight up, it seemed like it was
a lot closer to y'all than it is to us.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
But no, yeah, well nine hours is pretty close.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, But well, when you did first actually, you know,
wrestling in other countries and on if it's not on
your bucket list as a wrestler, I don't know what
you're doing first off, But like, what was it? Did
you go to America first? You go to Japan first?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I went to America first?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yes, So what was that experience? Like?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I really enjoyed it that time was kind of like
it was my first time leaving the country by myself,
doing any sort of major travel by myself. It was
just up to COVID obviously, So I did a bit
of a fifty my own solo travel and then fifty
(12:23):
percent wrestling where I trained out of Wrestle Pro in
New Jersey, So trained out of there, Kevin Matthews, LSG
just some great guys that sort of took me under
their wing and gave me some like Kevin gave me
(12:45):
some opportunities to obviously wrestle with Wrestle Pro, and then
that opened up a few more doors from there. So
I feel very lucky that I had those guys looking
out for me from the get go, and every time
I've sort of come back, they're always looking out for
me and helping me in whatever way they can. I
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think you kind of get a little bit of imposter
syndrome in a way, especially that first time, because you
don't know what to expect. So but after that first match,
I was like, oh, Okay, it's actually not especially in America.
It's like, oh, it's not that much different than wrestling
in Australia. And then you kind of get past that
(13:34):
and you're like, okay, yep, I can do this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Is the lingo the same, because I know, as someone
who's been lucky enough to be backstage and watch people
put matches together, the lingo sometimes is different depending on
how where you are and who you have wrestled. Is
the lingo kind of the same for Australia and America?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I would say it's the same. Again, depending where you
come from and who you're trained by. You just might
call certain things a different name, like a move a
different name, but I would say generally speaking, they're very similar.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And then you go to Japan after that, Who did
you work for in Japan?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So all my Japan tools have actually been with Sendai
Girls Nice Okay, So which is Miko Santamora's school or
a company? I should say yes. So she came to
Australia in twenty nineteen and I was lucky enough to
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have a match with her then. And after that she
invited me to Japan. Was originally going to go in
COVID but that obviously didn't happen. And then yeah, she
reinvited me back at the end of twenty twenty two
and it was only a I think I was there
for two and half weeks to do a few shows,
(15:03):
and then yeah, I've just sort of kept going back.
I'm heading back at the end of August. I want
to say much like maybe seven or eight wow kind
of returns always send I.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
How has that experience of work in Japan been for you?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I love working Japan. I love Japan as a whole,
their culture, their food, and I enjoy the wrestling style
a lot. I think, especially as a bigger person over
there as well, because all the josh is. A majority
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of them are very very tiny, so certain things are
a little bit easier in my on my back, I
guess compared to here. But I have loads of fun
and I'm typically I do a lot of tags over there,
which I don't generally do anywhere else. So that's really fun. Yeah,
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absolutely love love Japan confaults it, absolutely confaults it.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I love it. So what has been? I mean, the
American indie scene is just so on fire right now,
and obviously women's wrestling is through the roof, which I
can't you know, if you if you haven't any promotion
and you don't have women's wrestling, I don't know what
you're doing because you are missing an entire fan base,
an entire group of people that are just killing it
(16:34):
when it comes to having incredible matches. So where do
you kind of see the women's scene now, because it
does seem like if you're real hot on the indies,
some may picture up real fast. But then unfortunately sometimes
people get lost on the shuffle if they don't really
know how to book people. But luckily a lot of
them can still go back and work the indies and
(16:54):
still get, you know, make a huge name for themselves.
So how do you kind of seeing and feeling the
American news right now?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Like you said, it's it's exciting. I think everywhere after COVID,
obviously there was that big drop off. It kind of
killed a lot of places, and now you're seeing that rebuild.
(17:23):
Everyone's super excited, from wrestlers to fans, especially on Like
as a wrestler, you know, you can wrestle every single
like I guess coming from an Australian where wrestling every weekend,
that's difficult to do. So in America, like, you can
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wrestle every weekend at a different company that's putting you
in front of completely different fan bases every single show,
so you're able to make all these new connections with
the fan bases as one, but not only. The talent
right now is insane, Like there's so many talented women
(18:09):
and they're given, you know, the time and the platform
to showcase exactly what they're capable of, and it's just
really exciting, really really exciting, and I'm pretty pretty grateful
to be a part of that.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
That's awesome. Now I still kind of obviously we're not
in a territory situation anymore here in America, when it
comes to wrestling, But I feel like there's still kind
of territorial in the sense that there are these big
hot pockets and these big companies in certain areas. So
when it comes obviously like the Northeast is its own situation.
(18:47):
I think Texas is its own situation. But the South,
you know, the whole Georgia and everything over there, and
then the Pacific Northwest and then LA's La, So like
where do you kind of you kind of worked all
of them. It seems like, now where are you kind
of seeing some of the real hotspots when it comes
to hero being in America.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Hopefully I will work all of them, but at the moment,
I've pretty much only just seen the Northeast. I do
have tech. Yeah, so Texas is this Sunday, So I'll
be able to let you know next week. But yeah,
(19:30):
from what I hear, it's like like you were saying,
Northeast Texas, that Midwest sort of Chicago, and then obviously
the West Coast. But yeah, Northeast there's there's a lot happening.
And I mean you've got House of Glory which is
now traveling around as well. Yeah, and I think like
(19:56):
amazing reds just opened the school down in Orlando as well,
So yeah, exciting things big, like they're a massive company.
But yeah, at the moment, I can only comment on
the on that Northeast, but no, it's exciting. Lots of
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opportunities around here.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, you've said you want to see the world. Who
what are the top three places? Now? I mean you've
done Japan obviously now, and you've done America and you
were born in Australia, so you know those are marked off.
Where else are you looking to go?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Europe? Yes, so collectively, there's so many places in Europe.
I've only done France, which was a day trip in
and out for a wrestling show, so I definitely and
(20:55):
I did another day trip to Ireland. But yeah, you
Europe would definitely be at the top of that list.
So I know there's some companies in Germany that would
be at the top of that that list, but we'll
see if that happens. So yeah, definitely mightbe Europe. We
(21:17):
can make that work.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, that would be that. Yeah, I think Europe is
on everyone's bucket list too. Yeah, it just has like
I've talked to so many people and it was like,
you know, when we were growing up, it was well,
when I was growing up, it was like Canada was
a huge hotbed and then that kind of it's coming
back around or you know what he's doing with maple
Leaf is fantastic, Mexico has always been huge, and then yeah, England,
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Japan is kind of it, and then Australia obviously, but
like unfortunately, like you said, there's not a lot of like, yes,
there is independence when it comes to Australia, but no
one's like, hey, have you keeping up with what's going
overund Australia. It's like no esforts right now? No, yeah,
that's it. Yeah, yeah. I remember Will asked Bar at
one point saying he wanted to really help the Australian
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wrestling scene and then unfortunately he broke up with that
grow no longer wants to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, no. And because like the quality
in Australia is so high, I don't think people truly
understand the level Australia is at because we're forced to
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push each other and to be at that level because
there's only a handful of companies that are kind of
at that caliber that you want to be and you've
got under five companies, but one hundred wrestlers across Australia,
(22:51):
all pushing for those spots where you have to pick
your game up essentially if you want to be a
part of those shows, which I think, I don't know
if it's a I don't want to say like a
downfall or a negative in America, but there's so many
(23:14):
opportunities here. There's so many companies and promotions. It's easier
to travel. You just have doors left right coming out
wherever if you wanted it. So I think there's there's
a there's a bit more of a range in quality
within America then there is in Australia. But yeah, the
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Australian quality is is insane. But unfortunately, like you said,
no one's no one's paying attention and no one's watching it.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, not unless you get like those big American tours
that come through and it's like as right, I think
that's the biggest one.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So World Series Wrestling ws W. Yeah, so they only
run you know, once maybe twice a year, get so,
and then obviously they're bringing out a lot of international
talent which Australian fans just never get to see. So
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the shows typically will sell it out, if not close
to sellout. The crowds are amazing electric, They're they're really
fun to us to go on.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, every video I've seen like that crowd is always
super hot. I'm always like this is awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, every like it's back to back, so it's typically
like a four night wow, four nights back to back
and in a different state each night, and every crowd
is just yeah, super super hot. They want to they
want to be there, and they appreciate I think they
appreciate it because they don't get it very often.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Right exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
So you ever been here in America long? But what
do you miss most about home?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Oh? I think it's friends and family.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, I think that would be the number one thing,
although lately chips and gravy. That's not a thing here.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Like fries and gravy, right.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Like fries and gravy like brown gray or brown gravy,
not curry gravy, like a brown gravy.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You haven't had American white gravy yet.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I think I have and I didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
You may not have had a good one. Okay, you
need to try this.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Okay, you mess some recommendations.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Where are you going to be in Texas? Again? That
shouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I think it's Houston.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I think you might.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I could be so wrong, but I think it's Let
me check my talent, Yes it is. I was right.
It is Houston.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Good, Okay, okay, they I mean it's technically Texas, so
they will have uh, it's technically they have white sausage gravy.
Get it. Get it like a chicken fried steak or
biscuits and gravy, and then you'll try. It's so much better.
I don't know what white gravy you had, probably okay, okay,
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you don't have to eat the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
We'll see, we will say, just put it out there,
you know, Okay, I will try and let you know.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Okay, but no, it makes sense. I like, so, are
you thinking like poutine or are you talking like, yeah, okay,
you can find that betters well. I mean, there's only
really wrong with the cheese curds.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
There isn't. I have had poochin. I think the best
one I ever haduisine. I want to say, whistler, mm hmm,
it was I dream about that poo chin.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, And we've been trying to figure out like what
a southern poutine would be, and it would be obviously, yeah,
the sausage gravy. But I'm thinking, like what fries would
you or chips would you use? And I'm like, well,
you have to either get like waffle or like the
fat steak ones crinkle cut maybe, but like you can't
have like the the thin ones don't hold anything.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
No, I would say waffle, Yeah, yeah, I would vote
a waffle fry. I reckon that would be excellent.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Okay, well, I hope some chefs is listening because I've
been trying to figure this out.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
See, I thought you were going to say, well, obviously
friends of the family is very important. Meat pies. I
thought you were going to miss meat pies.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, as much as they are like Australian thing, I
wouldn't say I was consuming a lot of meat pies
down everyone.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I talked to you from New Zealand and Australia, I've
always said meat pies, so that's why I was.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
No. I think most of the stuff nowadays you can
kind of get yeah or fine, like Tim TAM's. You
can obviously get here. You might you've never had a
Tim Tam I.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Don't think I've had a tin tam.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
So they're basically like chocolate chocolate covered. You would call
them cookies.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Oh, you call them biscuits.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Biscuits. Yeah, so there's like two two biscuits with like
cream chocolate and then they're covered in chocolate.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Sure, okay, really I will find these at the grocery tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Hopefully they might them some places do like a like
a world market. Yes, yes, yes, but they're really good.
I haven't really craved anything that's Australian. Australian hmm, yet
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yes you have, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, so show days seem to be you intend to
be long days. What are some standards that you always
have in your bag for show days?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
And did you drink makes sense? Hands down snacks? Yes,
has that's actually something that so Australia show day. I
would always have a pack of fresh snow peas really
like sweet snap peace, but that's not really a thing here. No,
(29:59):
So my snacks would typically comprise of protein bars or jerky,
which I just don't have that same same freshness. But yeah,
definitely that outside of wrestling related stuff. But yeah, you
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have to be well energized and fueled because they are
very long and no one likes a hungry person, which
I feel like a lot of wrestlers are.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I mean, you could play it off with the crowd,
but yeah, when you're trying to talk down the wrestlers,
just like whoa, calm down.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah yeah, And there can be a lot of a
lot of socializing and when you're hungry, that's probably the
last thing, at least for me, it's the last thing
I want to I want to be doing.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yea, dealing with a bunch of people and they're random.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, Well I have a segment on the show. I
call it the five count, which just five random questions.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
All right, hit me.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Who is your first content?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Pink?
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Oh nice?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Mm hmm. The fun House Tour it was very fun.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
She puts on a really good yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah. I saw her open for justin Timberlake one time
when she was doing like the whole ribbon work stuff.
I was like, Jesus, this.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Is uh huh.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
If you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery at your
coffee shop, which one would you own and what would
the name be?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh that's a tough one. I would almost do a
jewel like coffee cafe in the morning like it, and
then at night it's a wine bar. Smart don't know
what the name would be though, I would have to
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wine coffee wine. I don't know. Stumped, but work in
progress that it would definitely be a dual open all hours.
Do they coffee and wine with lots of snacks?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I like that perfect. Who is the last person you
fan boyd out on?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Ah fanboys fanboy fangirl? I think it was Techla. I
think Techla is really cool.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yes, I am. She's just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, Like I followed her in stardom obviously, and just
her aura and persona is is just gravitating, like and
you like, you're just really cool. I met her really
quickly in Vegas weekend. We had a show crossover. Yeah,
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I would say she would be the last one that
I was like, oh, that's really cool, but you're cool.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
It is always awesome when you when you meet people
that you were like into and you're like, oh, you're
a good person. This is going to be okay.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Who or what inspires you?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Who? I would say big one is family and friends.
The people around me make me want to be a
better version of myself and to push myself in any
sort of area that might be in but definitely family
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and friends would be the the top people that inspire me.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I love that. And what would you tell your seventeen
year old self?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Believe in yourself?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Love it? You tell yourself that in any age? Really?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah? Yeah, but maybe if I told it to an
earlier version of myself, she would believe it at an
earlier age.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Good. I hope you believe it now also, I do.
It's a long process and it's not easy for a
lot of people, especially like you said, you have that
poster syndrome, and so you get past that and be like, no,
I can. Actually I'm supposed to be doing this. This
is where I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Now, if people wanted to find out more about you,
follow you online, see you live obviously by your merch
how can they do all the things?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah. So my main platform I use is Instagram. You
can find me at Lena Underscore cross with a K.
That's also my Twitter or ex handle as well. But
I have a sort of link tree in my profile
if you want to sort of see what else I'm doing.
(35:08):
But Instagram, if you follow long mayor you'll you'll stay
up to date with everything that is Leana Cross.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
There we go, Lena, thank you so much for your time.
I'm glad we got to do this, and yeah, I
can't wait for you to come back, and I definitely
want to see you over you're here in Texas more so.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
No, thank you. I appreciate it, and thank you for
having me.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Thank you, thank you so much Lena for being on
the show again. Make sure to check her out wherever
she is. She's going to be in Texas soon, she's
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cheers
Welcome to Bruisers podcast about beer, coffee, booze and bruisers.
I am your host, Roddy John and today we talked
to Lena Cross. We talked about her move to America,
the independent scene, and so much more. This is such
a fun conversation. Lena is doing absolutely amazing things, even
more so now that she's here in America. I can't
wait to see where she's being booked next. But you
don't want to hear from me, you want to hear
(00:40):
from her. So without further ado, here is Lena Cross.
I would like to welcome a show lean across. How
are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I am doing fantastic. How are you going?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'm doing well. So for those of listen kind of
penis the word picture. Where are you at? What's going
on around you?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I'm in my office area in Jersey City, my new
residence at the moment, So finally I feel like I've
settled in to the environment. It's absolutely crazy in Jersey
especially this part. There's just people. I don't know what
(01:29):
they're doing, They're just they're just crazy. How long you've
been in the States now, I've been coming in and
out for probably the last two years. And a bit years,
but officially moved. I think it was May this year. Wow, yeah, yeah,
(01:54):
officially officially.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, what how did that decision come?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It was kind of just the next progressive step I
think for me wrestling wise, coming from Australia. I've said
it before, but you kind of hit this glass ceiling
in Australia as a wrestler, just because we're so isolated
from everything, and you can wrestle with really good talent
(02:26):
and on really good promotions, but you know, the major
companies are really only coming down once every couple years
every year if you're lucky. So if you are wanting
to get noticed, you have to get yourself out. And
it kind of got to that point where I can
(02:48):
either stay in Australia, wait around for someone to come
down and see me and then hopefully they would take me,
but or I could just do it myself and make
the move on my own and sort of put myself
in a better position for opportunities to come to me.
(03:10):
And that's what I did.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Congratulations, That's huge for a lot of people literally moving
to in a completely different part of the world country,
Like you know, luckily you speak the language for the
most part are English is a little different than yours. Yes, well,
how did you land on Jersey City? Because most people
move here, they more or less moved to Florida, it
(03:33):
seems like, so Jersey City.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Is interesting choice where the two. Well, originally it was
Florida going to Florida because I know quite a few
people down there and friends with the Aussies that are
living there, so there's definitely that support system. But in
regards to independent wrestling, there's not a whole lot in Florida,
(04:00):
So if you were wanting to be booked and busy,
you would either have to fly yourself places or hope
that companies would want to fly you out, which me
coming into Australia, I know some people might know me,
but essentially you kind of have to step back and
(04:22):
establish yourself. So I thought about it, and Jersey's sort
of in that middle of that Northeast hub Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Philly,
surrounded by so many companies. I can get myself there
on my own, so companies sort of don't have to
(04:42):
invest too much to have me on their shows, and
it's just going to provide more opportunities for me to
establish myself within America.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Very true now you mentioned that. I mean, obviously it's
getting better now where you at least get a there yearly.
At Australia, it seems like, you know, obviously WWE, not
owned by TKO, is doing a better job as well,
because obviously they're tied in with the UFC, and the
UFC in Australia is massive. I mean, two of their
champions right now are Australian, so it makes more sense
(05:17):
for them to go regularly as well. But going back
in time, what was your earliest memory of pro wrestling?
Because it you know, like you said, you didn't get
much of the live stuff there and so like I'm
always curious, you know, what was it that grabbed you
for pro wrestling?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It was WWA So we had we have Foxtel, which
is basically the Australian cable, okay, and it would be
on a channel there and my brothers would watch it
and I just was enamored and fell in love with it.
Managed to go. My dad bought me tickets for a
(05:58):
birthday one year when they were touring, which didn't happen
because usually they would miss Perth. Perth would kind of
get left off tours. So yeah, they came to Perth,
went with Dad. I think it would have been oh,
I want to say, oh four or so far, No,
(06:25):
maybe three around that that era. So yeah, very fortunate
to sort of see it live. I was very naive
and I thought w W was the only wrestling in
the world at that point, and honestly, like, I thought
that for a very long time. But then obviously the
(06:47):
Internet came about social media, and yeah, I started to
realize that there's a lot more than just that one
company got introduced to the Australian independent scene. Obviously when
I started training and still learning so much about it.
(07:12):
But yeah, very so yeah, w w A was my
first inspiration for why I'm doing this. Much like a
lot of people, who.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Was it that really grabbed your attention and you were like,
oh wow, now I'm definitely into this.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
There are a few, but I think as a female
nutrition leader, we're probably like the two early ones where
just watching them and you're like that, that's amazing, Like
what are they doing? Like when they main evented raw
for the first time and it was like this is
this is cool? This is really really cool. Obviously they
(07:53):
didn't have the same platform as women do now. So
it was like a lot of also Randy Orton, Eddie Guerrero, Edge,
Triple H. Yeah, I think I think I was drawn
to the bad guys more often than not. I would say, Well.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It is funny that way, because the heels almost have
a deeper story because of the fact that they're trying
to almost convince you that what they see is the
reality because that's what they see as opposed to the
good guys, like no, that's bad and I'm going to
tell you why I'm going to win, and because good
always wins. But yeah, it makes sense that the heels
(08:41):
definitely have more of a deeper character than most of
the faces too.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, I think they drew more emotional responses from me
in a way, I think compared to the faces at
the time.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, well, how did you actually realize that, Oh wait,
I can actually do this, Like I could do this,
Like this is real. You can't just be chosen.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
To do this. Yeah. So it was twenty seventeen, was
when I started training, so I was a little bit older.
But again i'd only recently sort of started watching the
(09:34):
products and sort of really fell in love with it,
and I was at a points in my life where
I was a little bit bored with what I was doing,
and a few things happened and I thought this was
a childhood dream. You know, you only get one life.
I'm going to google a training school and just go
(09:55):
down and do it, which I did ended up doing.
And at this start it was very much oh my god,
I'm wrestling in front of twenty people and I'm training
in this shed warehouse. But it's the best thing ever. Like,
And then I think as I got more experience, more opportunities,
(10:22):
I started traveling outside of Perth. I think I realized that, oh, actually,
maybe I could take this further. And I think it
was twenty twenty two when I did a sort of
back to back America and then I went straight to Japan, jeez,
(10:46):
And I think that validated a bit for me to go, Okay,
this could actually be your reality. Now what can you
do to make it happen? Did?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I mean, that's a huge jump obviously the travel to
but what is the actual travel to Japan. I know
it's a lot closer to y'all than it is to us,
but like, what is the travel time for y'all to Japan?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
So pretty much the same timeline, it's an hour off
depending where you are, and if you're flying from Sydney,
I think a direct is about nine and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Jeez. Okay, yeah, straight up, it seemed like it was
a lot closer to y'all than it is to us.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
But no, yeah, well nine hours is pretty close.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, But well, when you did first actually, you know,
wrestling in other countries and on if it's not on
your bucket list as a wrestler, I don't know what
you're doing first off, But like, what was it? Did
you go to America first? You go to Japan first?
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I went to America first?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yes, So what was that experience? Like?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I really enjoyed it that time was kind of like
it was my first time leaving the country by myself,
doing any sort of major travel by myself. It was
just up to COVID obviously, So I did a bit
of a fifty my own solo travel and then fifty
(12:23):
percent wrestling where I trained out of Wrestle Pro in
New Jersey, So trained out of there, Kevin Matthews, LSG
just some great guys that sort of took me under
their wing and gave me some like Kevin gave me
(12:45):
some opportunities to obviously wrestle with Wrestle Pro, and then
that opened up a few more doors from there. So
I feel very lucky that I had those guys looking
out for me from the get go, and every time
I've sort of come back, they're always looking out for
me and helping me in whatever way they can. I
(13:10):
think you kind of get a little bit of imposter
syndrome in a way, especially that first time, because you
don't know what to expect. So but after that first match,
I was like, oh, Okay, it's actually not especially in America.
It's like, oh, it's not that much different than wrestling
in Australia. And then you kind of get past that
(13:34):
and you're like, okay, yep, I can do this. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Is the lingo the same, because I know, as someone
who's been lucky enough to be backstage and watch people
put matches together, the lingo sometimes is different depending on
how where you are and who you have wrestled. Is
the lingo kind of the same for Australia and America?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I would say it's the same. Again, depending where you
come from and who you're trained by. You just might
call certain things a different name, like a move a
different name, but I would say generally speaking, they're very similar.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And then you go to Japan after that, Who did
you work for in Japan?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So all my Japan tools have actually been with Sendai
Girls Nice Okay, So which is Miko Santamora's school or
a company? I should say yes. So she came to
Australia in twenty nineteen and I was lucky enough to
(14:41):
have a match with her then. And after that she
invited me to Japan. Was originally going to go in
COVID but that obviously didn't happen. And then yeah, she
reinvited me back at the end of twenty twenty two
and it was only a I think I was there
for two and half weeks to do a few shows,
(15:03):
and then yeah, I've just sort of kept going back.
I'm heading back at the end of August. I want
to say much like maybe seven or eight wow kind
of returns always send I.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
How has that experience of work in Japan been for you?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I love working Japan. I love Japan as a whole,
their culture, their food, and I enjoy the wrestling style
a lot. I think, especially as a bigger person over
there as well, because all the josh is. A majority
(15:42):
of them are very very tiny, so certain things are
a little bit easier in my on my back, I
guess compared to here. But I have loads of fun
and I'm typically I do a lot of tags over there,
which I don't generally do anywhere else. So that's really fun. Yeah,
(16:07):
absolutely love love Japan confaults it, absolutely confaults it.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I love it. So what has been? I mean, the
American indie scene is just so on fire right now,
and obviously women's wrestling is through the roof, which I
can't you know, if you if you haven't any promotion
and you don't have women's wrestling, I don't know what
you're doing because you are missing an entire fan base,
an entire group of people that are just killing it
(16:34):
when it comes to having incredible matches. So where do
you kind of see the women's scene now, because it
does seem like if you're real hot on the indies,
some may picture up real fast. But then unfortunately sometimes
people get lost on the shuffle if they don't really
know how to book people. But luckily a lot of
them can still go back and work the indies and
(16:54):
still get, you know, make a huge name for themselves.
So how do you kind of seeing and feeling the
American news right now?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Like you said, it's it's exciting. I think everywhere after COVID,
obviously there was that big drop off. It kind of
killed a lot of places, and now you're seeing that rebuild.
(17:23):
Everyone's super excited, from wrestlers to fans, especially on Like
as a wrestler, you know, you can wrestle every single
like I guess coming from an Australian where wrestling every weekend,
that's difficult to do. So in America, like, you can
(17:44):
wrestle every weekend at a different company that's putting you
in front of completely different fan bases every single show,
so you're able to make all these new connections with
the fan bases as one, but not only. The talent
right now is insane, Like there's so many talented women
(18:09):
and they're given, you know, the time and the platform
to showcase exactly what they're capable of, and it's just
really exciting, really really exciting, and I'm pretty pretty grateful
to be a part of that.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
That's awesome. Now I still kind of obviously we're not
in a territory situation anymore here in America, when it
comes to wrestling, But I feel like there's still kind
of territorial in the sense that there are these big
hot pockets and these big companies in certain areas. So
when it comes obviously like the Northeast is its own situation.
(18:47):
I think Texas is its own situation. But the South,
you know, the whole Georgia and everything over there, and
then the Pacific Northwest and then LA's La, So like
where do you kind of you kind of worked all
of them. It seems like, now where are you kind
of seeing some of the real hotspots when it comes
to hero being in America.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Hopefully I will work all of them, but at the moment,
I've pretty much only just seen the Northeast. I do
have tech. Yeah, so Texas is this Sunday, So I'll
be able to let you know next week. But yeah,
(19:30):
from what I hear, it's like like you were saying,
Northeast Texas, that Midwest sort of Chicago, and then obviously
the West Coast. But yeah, Northeast there's there's a lot happening.
And I mean you've got House of Glory which is
now traveling around as well. Yeah, and I think like
(19:56):
amazing reds just opened the school down in Orlando as well,
So yeah, exciting things big, like they're a massive company.
But yeah, at the moment, I can only comment on
the on that Northeast, but no, it's exciting. Lots of
(20:18):
opportunities around here.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Well, you've said you want to see the world. Who
what are the top three places? Now? I mean you've
done Japan obviously now, and you've done America and you
were born in Australia, so you know those are marked off.
Where else are you looking to go?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Europe? Yes, so collectively, there's so many places in Europe.
I've only done France, which was a day trip in
and out for a wrestling show, so I definitely and
(20:55):
I did another day trip to Ireland. But yeah, you
Europe would definitely be at the top of that list.
So I know there's some companies in Germany that would
be at the top of that that list, but we'll
see if that happens. So yeah, definitely mightbe Europe. We
(21:17):
can make that work.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, that would be that. Yeah, I think Europe is
on everyone's bucket list too. Yeah, it just has like
I've talked to so many people and it was like,
you know, when we were growing up, it was well,
when I was growing up, it was like Canada was
a huge hotbed and then that kind of it's coming
back around or you know what he's doing with maple
Leaf is fantastic, Mexico has always been huge, and then yeah, England,
(21:42):
Japan is kind of it, and then Australia obviously, but
like unfortunately, like you said, there's not a lot of like, yes,
there is independence when it comes to Australia, but no
one's like, hey, have you keeping up with what's going
overund Australia. It's like no esforts right now? No, yeah,
that's it. Yeah, yeah. I remember Will asked Bar at
one point saying he wanted to really help the Australian
(22:05):
wrestling scene and then unfortunately he broke up with that
grow no longer wants to do that.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, no. And because like the quality
in Australia is so high, I don't think people truly
understand the level Australia is at because we're forced to
(22:30):
push each other and to be at that level because
there's only a handful of companies that are kind of
at that caliber that you want to be and you've
got under five companies, but one hundred wrestlers across Australia,
(22:51):
all pushing for those spots where you have to pick
your game up essentially if you want to be a
part of those shows, which I think, I don't know
if it's a I don't want to say like a
downfall or a negative in America, but there's so many
(23:14):
opportunities here. There's so many companies and promotions. It's easier
to travel. You just have doors left right coming out
wherever if you wanted it. So I think there's there's
a there's a bit more of a range in quality
within America then there is in Australia. But yeah, the
(23:40):
Australian quality is is insane. But unfortunately, like you said,
no one's no one's paying attention and no one's watching it.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, not unless you get like those big American tours
that come through and it's like as right, I think
that's the biggest one.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So World Series Wrestling ws W. Yeah, so they only
run you know, once maybe twice a year, get so,
and then obviously they're bringing out a lot of international
talent which Australian fans just never get to see. So
(24:25):
the shows typically will sell it out, if not close
to sellout. The crowds are amazing electric, They're they're really
fun to us to go on.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, every video I've seen like that crowd is always
super hot. I'm always like this is awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yeah, every like it's back to back, so it's typically
like a four night wow, four nights back to back
and in a different state each night, and every crowd
is just yeah, super super hot. They want to they
want to be there, and they appreciate I think they
appreciate it because they don't get it very often.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Right exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
M hm.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
So you ever been here in America long? But what
do you miss most about home?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Oh? I think it's friends and family.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, I think that would be the number one thing,
although lately chips and gravy. That's not a thing here.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Like fries and gravy, right.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Like fries and gravy like brown gray or brown gravy,
not curry gravy, like a brown gravy.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You haven't had American white gravy yet.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I think I have and I didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
You may not have had a good one. Okay, you
need to try this.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Okay, you mess some recommendations.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Where are you going to be in Texas? Again? That
shouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I think it's Houston.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I think you might.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I could be so wrong, but I think it's Let
me check my talent, Yes it is. I was right.
It is Houston.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Good, Okay, okay, they I mean it's technically Texas, so
they will have uh, it's technically they have white sausage gravy.
Get it. Get it like a chicken fried steak or
biscuits and gravy, and then you'll try. It's so much better.
I don't know what white gravy you had, probably okay, okay,
(26:36):
you don't have to eat the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
We'll see, we will say, just put it out there,
you know, Okay, I will try and let you know.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Okay, but no, it makes sense. I like, so, are
you thinking like poutine or are you talking like, yeah, okay,
you can find that betters well. I mean, there's only
really wrong with the cheese curds.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
There isn't. I have had poochin. I think the best
one I ever haduisine. I want to say, whistler, mm hmm,
it was I dream about that poo chin.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, And we've been trying to figure out like what
a southern poutine would be, and it would be obviously, yeah,
the sausage gravy. But I'm thinking, like what fries would
you or chips would you use? And I'm like, well,
you have to either get like waffle or like the
fat steak ones crinkle cut maybe, but like you can't
have like the the thin ones don't hold anything.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
No, I would say waffle, Yeah, yeah, I would vote
a waffle fry. I reckon that would be excellent.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Okay, well, I hope some chefs is listening because I've
been trying to figure this out.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
See, I thought you were going to say, well, obviously
friends of the family is very important. Meat pies. I
thought you were going to miss meat pies.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, as much as they are like Australian thing, I
wouldn't say I was consuming a lot of meat pies
down everyone.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I talked to you from New Zealand and Australia, I've
always said meat pies, so that's why I was.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
No. I think most of the stuff nowadays you can
kind of get yeah or fine, like Tim TAM's. You
can obviously get here. You might you've never had a
Tim Tam I.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Don't think I've had a tin tam.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
So they're basically like chocolate chocolate covered. You would call
them cookies.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Oh, you call them biscuits.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Biscuits. Yeah, so there's like two two biscuits with like
cream chocolate and then they're covered in chocolate.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Sure, okay, really I will find these at the grocery tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Hopefully they might them some places do like a like
a world market. Yes, yes, yes, but they're really good.
I haven't really craved anything that's Australian. Australian hmm, yet
(29:21):
yes you have, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, so show days seem to be you intend to
be long days. What are some standards that you always
have in your bag for show days?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
And did you drink makes sense? Hands down snacks? Yes,
has that's actually something that so Australia show day. I
would always have a pack of fresh snow peas really
like sweet snap peace, but that's not really a thing here. No,
(29:59):
So my snacks would typically comprise of protein bars or jerky,
which I just don't have that same same freshness. But yeah,
definitely that outside of wrestling related stuff. But yeah, you
(30:19):
have to be well energized and fueled because they are
very long and no one likes a hungry person, which
I feel like a lot of wrestlers are.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I mean, you could play it off with the crowd,
but yeah, when you're trying to talk down the wrestlers,
just like whoa, calm down.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah yeah, And there can be a lot of a
lot of socializing and when you're hungry, that's probably the
last thing, at least for me, it's the last thing
I want to I want to be doing.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yea, dealing with a bunch of people and they're random.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, Well I have a segment on the show. I
call it the five count, which just five random questions.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
All right, hit me.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Who is your first content?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Pink?
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Oh nice?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Mm hmm. The fun House Tour it was very fun.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
She puts on a really good yeah, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah. I saw her open for justin Timberlake one time
when she was doing like the whole ribbon work stuff.
I was like, Jesus, this.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Is uh huh.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
If you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery at your
coffee shop, which one would you own and what would
the name be?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh that's a tough one. I would almost do a
jewel like coffee cafe in the morning like it, and
then at night it's a wine bar. Smart don't know
what the name would be though, I would have to
(32:03):
wine coffee wine. I don't know. Stumped, but work in
progress that it would definitely be a dual open all hours.
Do they coffee and wine with lots of snacks?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I like that perfect. Who is the last person you
fan boyd out on?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Ah fanboys fanboy fangirl? I think it was Techla. I
think Techla is really cool.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yes, I am. She's just fantastic.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, Like I followed her in stardom obviously, and just
her aura and persona is is just gravitating, like and
you like, you're just really cool. I met her really
quickly in Vegas weekend. We had a show crossover. Yeah,
(33:05):
I would say she would be the last one that
I was like, oh, that's really cool, but you're cool.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
It is always awesome when you when you meet people
that you were like into and you're like, oh, you're
a good person. This is going to be okay.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Who or what inspires you?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Who? I would say big one is family and friends.
The people around me make me want to be a
better version of myself and to push myself in any
sort of area that might be in but definitely family
(33:52):
and friends would be the the top people that inspire me.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I love that. And what would you tell your seventeen
year old self?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Believe in yourself?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Love it? You tell yourself that in any age? Really?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah? Yeah, but maybe if I told it to an
earlier version of myself, she would believe it at an
earlier age.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Good. I hope you believe it now also, I do.
It's a long process and it's not easy for a
lot of people, especially like you said, you have that
poster syndrome, and so you get past that and be like, no,
I can. Actually I'm supposed to be doing this. This
is where I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Now, if people wanted to find out more about you,
follow you online, see you live obviously by your merch
how can they do all the things?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah. So my main platform I use is Instagram. You
can find me at Lena Underscore cross with a K.
That's also my Twitter or ex handle as well. But
I have a sort of link tree in my profile
if you want to sort of see what else I'm doing.
(35:08):
But Instagram, if you follow long mayor you'll you'll stay
up to date with everything that is Leana Cross.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
There we go, Lena, thank you so much for your time.
I'm glad we got to do this, and yeah, I
can't wait for you to come back, and I definitely
want to see you over you're here in Texas more so.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
No, thank you. I appreciate it, and thank you for
having me.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Thank you, thank you so much Lena for being on
the show again. Make sure to check her out wherever
she is. She's going to be in Texas soon, she's
(35:50):
going to be in all over the America, and she's
definitely gonna be all over the world. So you are
definitely want to check her out on her social media
to see where she's going to be. And while you're
doing that, make sure to follow us on our social
media is it is bruisers Pile. That is b R
E W S C R S p O D on
the Instagram, of the threads and of the Twitter. If
you want to send us an email, it is bruiserspo
dot gmail dot com. If you want to follow me directly,
(36:11):
it is Roady John. That is R O D I
E j O N. Rody John is the name on
the Twitter and I'm untapped in case you want to
find out what I'm drinking. Maybe we can have a
beer together. If you will follow me on the threads
or the Instagram. It is official Roady John. So until
next time, make sure to enjoy life, drink local, and
cheers
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