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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What Welcome to Bruisers, the podcast about beer, Coffee, Booze
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and Bruisers till you here have Stroudy John And today
we talked to doctor Bob. We talked about his journey
into pro wrestling commentating and so much more. This is
such a fun conversation. Doctor Bob is doing absolutely awesome
things up in Canada, and you don't want to hear
from me, you want to hear from him. So, without
further ado, here is Doctor Bob. I would like to
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welcome the show, Doctor Bob.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
How are you doing today, sir?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm doing well. Thank you very much for the invite here.
I really appreciate the time and let me get to
talk little bit more than I uhould do in my
regular life.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, for those listening kind of penius the word pictures,
where are you at? What's going on around you?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I'm in my guest room and thankfully the video was
off because it is a mess in here. There are
all types of things all over the place. It's not
all wrestling related, but there's a there's an ample enough wrestling
memorabilian things in here. For example, I'm right in front
of me looking at the old championship wrestling board game
by Gordon Soli decades old. And I've got a few
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other nickknacks here and there, but overall a room cluttered
with stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I did not know he had a game.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
I will send you a picture after this is done.
Let me read the actual cover Gordon Soley's Championship Wrestling Trivia.
The Game of Pro Wrestling includes twelve hundred trivia questions
a fan of all ages, and it is from copyright
nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I just googled it, and okay, trust you.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Me love finding these little big knacks and little special
memorabilia all over the place. I try not to spend
too much money here and there. I do have regular
bills to pay as well, but stuff like that, when
it jumps out at you, you know you gotta buy it.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So you have the record as well.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Which one are we talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I don't know what I'm looking at online.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Here has a record which I imagine was him telling
that some of the yeah message from Gordon.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I guess I should.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh you know what, I haven't To be honest, I
love looking the bus. I haven't opened it up yet.
Oh it's almost kind of afraid of opening up. So
maybe it's in there. I have that. I have a
bad habit bad books, DVDs. I buy them, I love them,
and then I don't. It takes me years to actually
open them up.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, I used to collect DVDs a lot, and there
would be so many times that they'd still be in
the plastic and.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I ever watched it. You and me are very liking that,
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well let's go all the way back in time.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
What is your earliest memory of for wrestling?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
See now, I've had that conversation with a lot of
friends of mine, and the case and the cases that
I watched it a lot with my father growing up
cool and so I don't have a very good memory.
But I also think he probably exposed it to me
very young. So although I remember the WrestleMania the Roman
theme there with everyone riding in on camels and yeah
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and all that, I remember that because I remember how
funny Bobby Heeman was riding in backwards. I'd probably watched
a whole bunch of wrestling before then, probably watch it
in the single digits with my dad. But yeah, I
couldn't quite tell you what the exact earliest. It's always
been part of my life same thing with me raising
my son right now. Wrestling has always been part of
his life as well, so he probably wouldn't be able
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to tell you what his earliest memory was either. It's
just it's always been around me.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well when did you, fully, I guess, fall in love
with it? I mean, whether it always be around because
I mean I grew up here in Texas. My dad
is a big football guy. But I watch football, American football.
For whoever's listening, It's fine, I'll watch it, but I'm
not like, I'm not like, oh my god, it's Sunday,
I can't or Sunday, Monday, Thursday or whatever, like I
can't wait. It's just like eh. But once I grab
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once I found wrestling, I.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Was like, I'm in. I'm like, this is it?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Because my dad didn't watch it. They weren't you know,
they weren't not fans of it, but they were you know,
they're like, eh, that's something he likes.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I just assume in Texas you almost have to be
a fan. You got the Van Erkson everybody down there.
It's almost seems like an institution from everything I read
historically that you have to be a wrestling fan. But yeah, no,
I get it well. For me, when I fell in
love with it, I would really think that it was
a case of I never didn't like wrestling ever since
I was very young. It was a thing that I
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either I you know, got to talk to my dad about.
I had a brother who was three years younger than me.
We always watched it. Even some of my earliest friends
at school, we you know, just found some of the
odd misfits here and there who did like wrestling. It
wasn't very plentiful back when I was young. I think
it's a thing gone through ebbs and flows of popularity.
But back when I was young, you were kind of
ostracized for it, for sure. But you know, found my
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buddies who did like it, would invite them over to
see the pay per views, watch at my house, and
so I always liked it. I can't necessarily say I
always liked one company. It wasn't like that. I was
always a diehard WW fan or always a die hard whatever.
But I always enjoyed wrestling. And what's great about the
sport of wrestling is that no matter what you like,
there are different fast facets of it everywhere. So in
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when you know, for a period of my life I
might have been into just lucha doors or a period
of my life I really remember really loving comedy wrestling,
and then I was going to watch death matches, and
then I wanted to watch the World of Sport, and
then I wanted to watch sort of more the North
American version of the high flyers and some of the
junior heavyweights. And what's great is that, especially with all
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these streaming platforms and particularly YouTube before, was that you
could find a little bit of everything out there. So
even if you, you know, kind of fell out of
love with one company or one style of wrestling, there's
stuffre And I feel like, what's enjoyable about being I'm
gonna call myself a little bit of a historian here,
but being a little bit of a historian as well
is that like, Okay, I don't like what's going on now,
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let me let me dealve back and go back to
the nineteen eighties and see what's available there, and while
watch all that stuff and find the little nuggets of
of of different fandoms that I might not been aware of,
or you know, just it's a quiet Saturday to day morning,
I don't have much to do. I'm putting on Stan Hanson.
That's what I'm doing this morning. We're going into that,
or going into Gary Albright, or we're going into different people.
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And it's a case of always enjoying wrestling and being
able to find different things that I enjoyed it all over.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, it is always interesting to me where Obviously, like
you said, I grew up here in Texas, so the
von Erics. I came into wrestling, you know, when it
was Global Wrestling Federation, so they'd had just sold it
or they I guess the Jerfs had just sold it,
because the Jeris bought it from the von Erics. And
then yeah, but and then but I mean I grew
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up with WF, and then once I realized there was
WCW and there was just other wrestling out there in general,
and I was like, WHOA, what is going on?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
There's so much more to see.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And then I did see more of like I knew
about Japanese wrestling because WWF would kind of bring in
guys every once in a while. But WCW, you know,
if you saw Brian Pillman versus Juician Liger, that just
changed your world all the way around.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
So seeing that absolutely first match of the Lectra, right.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, well I think I had seen it. Actually, it
may have been the earlier yeah, they I think they
replayed it on TV, and I was like, what is this?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
This is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It's incredible how much Pilman kind of was a gateway
to a lot of Japanese wrestling. For me. The similar
thing happened when I started getting into the indies and
watching and buying all the ROH tapes that I could
possibly find out there. I didn't, and you know, shame
on me, but I didn't know who can think Kobashi was.
But then I heard all this talk about Obashi and
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and and and Joe, and then reading about the you
know there, about Meltzer's reviews of it, and then seeing
just a hubbub of it even on the old ROH
message boards and everything. So I said, who's this guy?
And then he and I would watch something about him,
whether it's YouTube, daily motion, wherever I saw him, and
then there was somebody else in that match, and it
was like, Okay, let me go check that out. Let
me go check that out. And it opened up this
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whole world of although I knew it existed obviously, because
you know, we had seen guys like Hushi and Taka
Michinoku and everybody who had been on WFTV before, like
some of these more die hard wrestling fans who kind
of just helped, you know, popularize it with North American
fans for guys who didn't necessarily come over, like it
took forever from Masawa to come over, it took forever
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to Kobashi to come over. Guys like Kawata had come
over for a little bit, but you know, in stampede
and stuff, but had never really made a big name.
And so there was a whole contingent of wrestlers out
there who just never made a name in North American
and was cool to see them, you know, through the
through streaming platforms and such, to be able to find
all their work and then deep dive into that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I always say now that if I were growing up now,
I almost probably wouldn't have any friends because I would
just stay inside watching wrestling all the time, Like why
would I need to go outside? Everything I want is
right here.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Well, I mean, as an adult now right now, I
feel like most of them new friends I've made in
the last decade or two have been wrestling related too,
so thank goodness for wrestling ROL. So I don't know
how many friends i'd have right now. Period.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I do love what period of wrestling we're in now
because obviously, like we're talking about, you can genuinely consume
almost anything or hear a story about a match that
maybe they recorded over or it was an indie show
and you never heard about it, or but in your
head you're like, WHOA, I imagine this match was so
much bigger and so much better. But then also you
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can go to indies every single weekend there's an indie
close to you that you can or within driving distance
you can go watch and see your either new favorite
wrestlers come up, or see some of your older wrestlers
that you knew you know still working indie dates, which
I think is fantastic where they've opened their own school
and also run shows. So it's just like, I think
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it's a beautiful time for pro wrestling in general.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Agreed, Double edged Sword. However, little caveat on there is
that it's almost so overabundant right now that like a
look at the PWG's of the world or vpw's or
other places that used to be considered, you know, bigger indies,
the Jersey all pros and everybody. It's that there's so
much of it around, and especially with AW taking an
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influx of the guys that do that style, that it
almost kind of diluted what was special out there. Like
in ROH two thousand and three would have never worked
because Danielson, Joe Homicide, low Key, all those amazing, all
those guys who made it so special in the beginning,
they would have been signed right away to a big company.
There would have been no Roh out there. And so
whereas I you know, feel kind of blessed to be
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in this time of availability and being able to go
see all these great names and everything too, I do
yearn for a time a little bit before. Not to
be too gate keeping, but there's a bit of an exclusionary,
like it's harder to find that Roah out there. You know,
I had to. I remember buying testing the Limit because
I heard Danielson and Aries go seventy plus minutes, and
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I'm like, oh my god, I gotta go find it now.
You know, you wait a few months, it's probably on YouTube.
They're a little bit of a special kind of effort
that you will put to get and find stuff. It's
not there necessarily anymore. And I know that sounds like
a little bit like sour grapes and such, but just
to say that it's great in all, I also want
newer fans and the fans who are who really are
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starting to become fans now to understand just like how
special this time is. And we've never had an era
where this much talent has had this much exposure before, yep.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And we have this many companies that like, yeah, AW
allows people to work other places. TENA allows people to
work other places. I mean GCW, I don't the gay
Bays just signed a GCW. But you know, there's there's
so many companies that are on the bigger level that
do allow their talent to work wherever and however, which.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I think is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Obviously, WWF is not gonna ww is never going to
do that, especially now that TKO owns them. But you know,
we're still getting a lot. Well I say that, but
then we got Natty working other places.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
So I was gonna say there's a lot in the
last in the last three or four years.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I mean, you've got you guys, guys from NXT going
over to Noah right now, that's true, you know. And
then even one of my favorite tag teams in the
whole world, the Hank and Tank there, they've got to
match it for the for the I think it was
no attack team titles on SAT on Sunday, which you know,
ten years ago in WW that would have never happened.
You know, you might occasionally get like a Juice th
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under Lagger one shot versus Tyler Breeze or something, but
for the most part, people weren't doing these, you know, excursions.
A Moss would have never ended up in Japan and
a few of these and like yeah, night Heart, Natty,
like you were saying too, probably wouldn't have been doing
a few other Indy dates. So it's cool they have
a little bit of a change. But yeah, I mean
that to be fair, people that are watching a lot
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of the ndis and consuming a lot of it probably
aren't the biggest WW fans, because the biggest WW fans
are watching WW. They've and then I do like looking
at slightly the business side of it as well, though,
like they have made such a great model to cater
towards their fans, you know, it not to sound not
to sound again to hoity toity here, but like they
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don't cater towards wrestling fans. They cater towards WW fans
and so and that that works for them. They've done
an incredible building of an empire to do that. So
if you're looking for an indie name, WWE is not
necessarily the pace that you're going to go, you know,
try to find the Marcus Mathers of the world or something.
I know they signed into ID and all that stuff,
but that's not their business model for sure. So yeah,
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seeing them work different indies and seeing them like have
a little bit of mix, it's a cool thing.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, Also it gives a nice rub to all these
different indis that are out there. I almost think in
America we're not getting back to the territory system obviously
because everything's too global and we're all too connected. But
I do think I mean, we kind of touched on
earlier about like PWG, about these different pockets and different
areas of the country where you do have this big
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company that does run let's say not run, but is
the biggest one in that certain area. So like up
here in DFW, we could say VIP obviously in Houston
we have row because that's Booker T's and the id's
come through there.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
And then on the Pacific Northwest is defy, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And then you know, obviously in the Northeast we have
there's too many I.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Think really up there.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But I mean in California we're kind of I don't
I can't exactly off the top of my head think
of the one in California, but I know for a
fact that there is a big one.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
But every area now.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Has a one big one, and then all these other little,
kind of smaller ones that really want to you know,
get their love letter to wrestling or have a little
promotion as well. So but then obviously we have like
the big I say five or six at this point
that are just kind of feeders for everybody else, and
everyone's just kind of getting caught up in the mix.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah, And I think I think that's the main difference
with the analogy with the territories and people. It is
apt to say that look like different territories or different
areas of the country. Let's say, if we're sticking just
with the US, different areas of the country have their
have their famous and important FEDS. But there is also
a level of homoganization where like you look at a
card on the West Coast, East Coast, maybe not the
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travel and such, but less they take various ones on
the East Coast and Midwest, and a lot of the
cards look pretty similar. They're using a lot of the
same guys. There are a lot of the chaps or
a lot of the big names there, and you sprinkle
in a couple of year undercard guys who might be
you know, specific to the region and such, and so
you get a little bit of that, which is why
I think it differs from the territory system because you know,
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Memphis look nothing like the like pnw WU looked nothing
like or WWF looked nothing like you know, territories in
the NWA, and so you had, you know, different kind
of styles and different ethos to different companies. That isn't
really replicated, I think with the indie system we have now,
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but there is a there is a sort of movement
towards having these big companies and having a fan base
and everything too. And and I think there's a few
companies who kind of break them mold, like the like
the Game Changer, Wrestlings of the world, et cetera. But
for the most part, yeah, you got little pockets where
these companies are big and you know, shout out to
my home fed over here. C four Wrestling. A lot
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of people have said that, you know, we're Canada's PWG
of yesteryear, and a lot of the talent coming in.
It's it's a it's a big milestone for them to
come wrestle for C four And I'm loving that We're
getting a lot of notoriety, especially how difficult it is
to break out in Canada. So you know, I did
a little transition there for a cheap pop for anyone
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listening to see four fans. But yeah, it's a it's
a case of different companies, you know, really standing out
and and and it's great because you get one company
that's really big in one area, all the other little
companies that might be smaller in size, they kind of
they feed off of that. And and then you get
wrestling fans who might not be die hard wrestling fans,
who might just be looking for a place to go
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party on a Friday or a Saturday or have fun,
and they won't necessarily go like, hey, I know Company ABC.
They just may be like, hey, there's wrestling in Ottawa. Cool,
let's go see the wrestling. You know, there's wrestling in Texas.
Let's go see the wrestling. It's not necessarily that they
might be casual fans or or or not even fans.
These people just wanting to do something fun might just
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see how effective that one big company is doing and
and exciting it is. And then and you know, go
check out wrestling. Oh that's healthy for everybody. That's great
for everybody, wrestlers, promoters, everybody in between.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I always say wrestling needs and should be a like
it's a buffet the hats and needs to have a
little bit of everything for everyone, because either whoever's going
for the first time or somebody who's been for the
fifteenth or a thousands of time, they're always going to
find little things about the show that they love a lot,
or certain characters or whatever it is. And so everyone
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after the show is gonna be talking about different spots
or different moments that they're like, Wow, that bar was
really cool, or I really like when they did this,
or this match really got me, but that match was like, eh,
I could have probably gone on to the bathroom then,
but I didn't know. But you know those kinds of things,
and I mean you're doing that as well with you know,
doctor Bob presents false count anywhere where you're doing matches
or bar fights, also with concerts. So how did all
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this come to about? Like this sounds awesome, and I
have I've been talking to a local bar owner about
some kind of bar fights, but I want to hear
about what you are doing first.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Sure, I'm happy if different places around the country or
North America or wherever I want to take some inspiration
from anything I'm doing right now. I mean I've taken
inspiration from others, especially guys like cast some of a
Valentine andres who have been doing stuff in the more
closer to my area. I have been involved in wrestling
for about a wonderful transition, by the way, thank you
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very much that I have been involved in wrestling for
a little over ten years commentary almost ten years. And
I've been going to indie shows for the better part
of almost eighteen years, I think, And so I've been
involved in and just consuming as you can probably tell
by the first twenty minutes for a chat, but consuming
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so much wrestling over my lifetime, whether it's you know,
indie wrestling or outside of that. So I have seen
what I like. I have also kind of seen what's
outside of the norm and what I've always wanted to
pride myself on doing both in my commentary, both in
the different endeavors that I do take and there's other
things activities that I've involved in as well. In wrestling,
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is want to present something with a little bit of
a spin on it. I don't want to copy paste
stuff that's already out there because other people are other
people do it better, and so I want to create
a little bit of a spin in. Some of my
friends in the local area and Ottawa are very involved
in the punk and metal scene. One of my best
friends here he does art for them. He's involved in
a lot of sort of a skateboarding adventures as well
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out here here, and he's time and so I've joined
him once or twice, you know, a few times. And
it's not really exactly my type of music, but I
love the type of crowd in the field and the
energy and everything, and I was thinking, hey, like some
of these bar shows work well. There are ones all
over Quebec, all over Ontario, some on the West Coast
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and such, but there's stuff that's kind of missing from them.
A Either we go really really hardcore, bloody and all.
I didn't really want that. I do love death matches,
but that wasn't what I want to present. But I
also didn't want to do like a, hey, we're doing
a show that has no ring and it's just in
a bar with just you know, a wrestling show in
a bar, which for me, I'm like, I could have
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done that anywhere. I could have gone to a church basement,
that stereotypical Indie church basement kind of thing, or the
high school gym or something. That's not what I want
to present either. I wanted to have that injury to
that feel. I want to attract a fan base and
a crowd that wasn't necessarily your wrestling group, because I
you know, I'm involved in so many different Indians that
I see a lot of the same people all over
the place, and I want to reach out and and
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you know, expose a new fan base to this stuff
as well. And you know, we're on we're going on
to match number five now and two different venues, and
you know, I hear stuff from either the bar scene
out here. I hear stuff from the metal and punk
fans out in my region and they love it, like
this is something they looked for too. I remember even
the bar last time that we were at was telling us,
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you know, that was the best night they've they've ever had,
and such the excitement that they've had. I wanted to
present something that was true to what I like in wrestling,
still like violent, hard hitting, a little bit funny still
with a little bit of that, but you know, no
wink wink, just wrestling's fake kind of thing. I wanted
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to have something that was exciting, in your face, smash mouth,
not necessarily like taking a little bit from that ECW
type vive where like you were sure if a fan
was gonna you know, jump the jump the guardrail and
go attack a wrestler or something kind of like it
was that kind of grungey, not so g rated type
of feeling. And then also because of the bands and
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because of the type of music they're they're already app
this is like a rowdy type crowd. You know they're
going to wash any second now, and this is you know,
a fan base that I'm also not worried about if
a wrestler dives and accidentally clip some some guy. You know, great,
but people are mashing all the time, people are stay
driving and everything. I'm not so afraid. I feel if
a chair goes slightly off base and you know, clip
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somebody and like, nobody's gonna suit me. I know the
kind of fans that they're there, and people kind of
expect a little bit of that, And so I knew
that was both in line with what I wanted to
present and how it went, and it was an editors
in a terrific process as well. You know, we presented
Match one, then I took some notes with my co
creator here too, Eric, and we kind of said, okay,
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what do we want to change up for Match too?
What do we want to change up? And we're doing
different things and some have been better than others. And
admittedly we had our last match where a guy jumped
off the second second floor, through the balcony here and
onto the table and it was great, it was amazing.
I don't want to do that every show, though, I'm
not having a new Jack every show, so it's a
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case of, like, you know, figuring out what works in
that mix, and overall, I want to present something that
both was kind of gritty, violid, exciting, different, grimy, and
overall just something that everything that I put on and
everything that I do, both in my commentary and all
these wrestling ventures, is something that if I wasn't part
of it, I would want to be part of it,
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and I want to enjoy what I'm doing and I
want to be a fan of what I'm presenting. And
absolutely that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Yeah, thanks, Yeah, because you're giving moments to people. And then,
like you said, a lot of these people that are
coming to these shows may not go to wrestling shows,
but they know about wrestling. Everybody has somewhat of a knowledge.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Oh you'd you'd be surprised.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
Sometimes there are people who had never heard of wrestling, Like, uh,
you know, possible had they they could They couldn't tell
you more than two wrestlers' names out there, or they
might not even know I had.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
The first show we put on, there was a bunch
of people at the bar who said, hey, are you
putting wrestling on the TV. I'm like, no, Wrestling's coming
through the floor here, Like we're going all around the venue,
We're going off the bar, We're going through the tables,
we're going off the chairs, we're going into the back
lot here, et cetera, we're coming off the stage. Yeah,
they didn't know what was coming, and it's almost better
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that way. Yeh. I only had three or four wrestling
fans in front of me in a hundred plus audience,
Like only literally only three, four or five percent people
knew what was going on, and it was great because
the faces and astonishment and I've caught it on video,
We've produced clips on it and everything too. Of people. Yeah, absolutely,
they're causing moments. And it's almost better too, because if
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you're kind of a blase fan like me, I've seen
the craziest of crazy stuff like coming out of Big
Japan Wrestling and CZW and all these other places, it
almost doesn't shock me anymore. But to these people who
had never seen someone come off a balcony, that was like,
They're going to be telling this story for the next
thirty years, and I'm like, I'm so happy that I
could be the catalyst catalyst to that.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, because you never know, they might actually now start
being fans and be like, Okay, well I saw it
live before.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Let me oh, they're doing a ring too.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That's yeah. I don't need to transition them all over,
but it's cool when it happens. And otherwise, I want
to keep cultivating the fan base that I have for
the bar shows because people are definitely talking about it,
whether it be again the punk metal fans or just
the bar type audience. Today we've had their looking fortune.
The next one, we're presenting one actually in December. I
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don't want to give it the dataway yet because I
know some people are listening and the concert promoter and
I are still in chats. I know the date. I
don't want to tell it, but it's in December and
it's going to be an amazing, amazing show.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, let us know and let me know, and I
will definitely help support it as much as possible on
social media.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh, I appreciate that so much. It's also for a
fundraiser as well. I've got to find out the exact
organization we're running for this year, but last year it
will be similar. We're trying to make an annual thing.
It is for harm reduction as well, so we have
great cause for people and I also work in that
field the mental health sector as well too, so it's
something both you know, coincidentally close to what I do,
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and also great, great cause that helps a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I love it. I mean I do think.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I do love that we are putting more emphasis on
mental health because there are so many times that it
was one of those things where it's just like, oh,
shake it off, you'll be fine, or rep some durna,
you'll be fine. But no, like we all feel things differently,
we all take away certain situations things differently. It's just
the way we process things is obviously so different as
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well from one person the next.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
And we genuinely do need to give people that.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Time and that's you know, openness to be able to
talk about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, I mean, we could have a full hour just on
mental health here how it relates both in personal lives
or and how it relates to wrestling as well. And
I have a whole whole spiel and speech about how
it involves wrestling. I'm not going to say right now,
but you know, the type of upbringing I had and
the type of people I surrounded myself with and stuff too,
was it was hard to chat about mental health is
younger and now that I'm older, more wise or just
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graying in the hair or whatever the case may be.
It's it's something that I'm passionate about, and you know,
chat with some people. Not everyone's on board yet, you know,
it's still a very much hismo filled world. But like
I would love if more people were understanding about their
needs and about how to support others, even if you know,
somethings as easy enough as just understanding lending an ear.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, we're just checking in on somebody, like, Hey, how
you doing.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Absolutely, I mean speaking of mental health.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And you know, as much as this you are in
a physical sport world, you obviously the mental aspect of
it is huge as well, whether it be you know,
either commentary or the ring announcing you do, or even
you know, working show. Show days can be very long
days and then obviously the ramp up before a show
and then coming down off a show. What kind of
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mentally like what mental workouts do you kind of try
to practice.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
So I'm going to give you a little story. I
don't know if I told this on any of my
other podcast interviews, since we're going this way, so you
get a little bit excusive here. Hey, I had wanted
do do commentary since I was thirteen years old. I
saw Mike Toenay, Bobby the Brain, Heaton, and Shavanni on Nitel,
and I was like, especially Mike to May he is
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my god. So I said, this is what I want
to do when I'm old. Not necessarily I don't need
to be on TV, but I want to do this.
And so ever since I was thirteen, the wrestling commentary
bug bit me. I never wanted to be a wrestler.
I never wanted to be a ref any of that stuff.
In fact, my body hurts all the time, so I
don't want to take a bump. But that stuff, really,
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you know, it caused me to be like, Okay, this
is what I want to do. So fast forward to
when I actually did my first commentary spot ten almost
ten years ago now. The week of the promoter who
I've been you know, as a friend of mine, I've
been in close contact because I've been at his shows
for years, said okay, you know you, this is your night.
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I had been helping out hand eleven months of like
ring crew and helping with sound and everything too, and
so it was like, okay, you're on what Maybe it
was a day's notice, maybe it was forty eight hours
notice you're on dark match, you know, kind of like
how wrestler gets an opportunity to just be on a
dark match as well. So I was on a dark
match and I said, okay, cool, and as I got
to it, because again it was such short notice, I
(30:00):
had a full blown panic attack. I'm talking crying, heaving,
couldn't like wanted to not go, like the thing that
I've been dreaming up about for you know, like almost
two decades. I'm like, no, I can't do this, this
is too much. I don't I don't know what I'm
supposed to do over two decades actually, And by the
time I got there shook it off. You know. I
(30:22):
had called my wife before I was going, and I'm like,
can I do this? Can I really do this? You know,
in retrospect, it was a dark show, and any show
that like I don't know how many people watch on
the DVD who would have skipped the dark show, not
to not to you know, say anything against the performance,
but like it wasn't like a huge spotlight on me.
But I was so nervous and I have over the
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years calmed myself down, putting in little rituals to myself
whether that's like, you know, have the same hot and
sour soup before to lupacrade my throat, or like go
over my notes, or you know, meet up with the
person I'm doing commentary with that just kind of chit
chat before shows. Sometimes you know, even have a beer
or something beforehand. But all this stuff would be a
(31:04):
case of like me getting kind of more used to it,
and now that I've done commentary for so long, it's
so many different promotion I get nervous a little bit.
And I would say I get more nervous of on
mine at a different promotion that I might not have
never worked before, around different people. Certainly this Saturday, actually
I'm back to I don't know when this comes out,
but this Saturday, I'm going to be a ring announcing again.
(31:26):
And I haven't ring announced in months. It's at the
current at the current way I'm doing it, I've only
ring announced at one promotion. I used to do up
to three, maybe four if I double count on everything,
but yeah, I'm only doing one. And so every time
I get there, it's it's a whole different muscle that
you have to kind of flex, and that gets nervous
because you're in front of a crowd, and and you
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know it's behind a camera, not not being anyone seeing
your face and just sharing your voice is very different
than you kind of being the MC for the entire night.
And so I will get nervous on Saturday, but you know,
I'll get into it, and once the first match rolls
around them, I'll be probably okay. And but yeah, you know,
it's a case of visualizing. I want. I owe it
to myself as a younger kid that I was loving
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wrestling my entire life. I owe it to myself to
put one hundred percent effort into this to live the
dream that I wanted to live. I'm never going to
be on TV. I'm never going to be Jim Ross.
I'm never going to be you know, whoever else you're
thinking of when you think big a commentator. But I
owe it to myself to do and follow through with
what I wanted to as a child and as a
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teenager and as an adult and the thing that's made
me so many friends and the thing that's you know,
become my like big passion in life. And you know,
put in one hundred percent and try my best on
all this stuff. And sometimes if a promotion doesn't work out,
or sometimes if an endeavor doesn't work out, you know,
at least I gave him my shot, and at least
I'm doing something that I love.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
That's a great mindset to have. And I feel the
same whenever I re announced. I'm like, listen, five year
old me is screaming right now because he's so excited.
Yes there again. Whether whether I'm doing a WrestleMania or not,
I don't care. I'm actually in the ring, you know,
calling or ring announcing people. And for me, that's that's it,
that's all I want.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Hell yeah, tell yeah. The the indies are about loved
about passion, and bring that love and passion to to
that ring, whatever role you're playing, bring it to the ring,
bring it to the surroundings, bring it to whatever role
you are and and and you know, the indies are
so important. They are the lifeblood of wrestling, and you
know you owe it to yourself and to everybody else
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involved to do your best and to have fun.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
We should also, John, we should also trade notes after
this is done on ring announcing stuff. I love to
hear some of your yes. Yeah, I've distinctly remember the
first two shows I went to, I kept crotching myself
when I got through the ropes, and so when people
were talking to me afterwards, like how to go, I'm like,
it hurt a lot. Yeah, that was my main takeaway
(33:54):
from reing announcing the first two shows. I'm like, I
kept getting hurt.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
But yeah, yeah, for me, it was definitely I allow
myself at least one mess up a show.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And then that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Like other than that, I'd try to be as good
as possible, But yes, I would. There's always at least
one mess up. Now I have a segmenty so I
call it the five counts, Just five random questions.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
What do you car karaoke to?
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I don't like music in the car. I like talking
to people. So although we have some stuff in the background,
I mean again, I can tell you my preferences. You know,
nineties wrap, some motown. We were just listening to Gladys
Knight and the Pips, but overall, I like chatting with
people in the car. I think that's music is a
small background thing to me.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Okay, interesting, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Although glad to saying the Pips was the last one
we were singing along.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
But yes, how do you not.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
First off, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
If you own a liquor company, brewery, winery, coffee shop
or di spentry, which one would.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
You own and what would the name be?
Speaker 3 (34:50):
A coffee shop? I guess I love coffee. I couldn't
go a day without at least two cups of coffee.
I'd have to think about a clever Doctor Bob's type
of But keep on with the branding, right, stay with
Doctor Bob something exactly Doctor Bob's Coffee brew let's say.
And by the way, I do love your podcast name.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
What a nice word pun and a word play there.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Love it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
It's fantastic all the way around. Number three, have you
seen or felt a ghost?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I want to say ninety five percent chance. I don't
believe in spirits nine to five, but there is a
little five percent chance that, you know, I don't want
to say one hundred percent with clarity that I don't.
And sometimes, you know, you have dreams of like family
members past and everything, and.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
You're like, Okay, did they visit me or not? Again,
probably they don't exist, but there might be a little
five percent date somebody might have come by and said,
you know, come in, popped in when you're having a
dream or something.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Right, or just maybe moved something out of the way
you didn't realize and then you didn't fall into something
or over something.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, I'm sure my dad's come see me once or twice,
and in the last few years, who knows, who knows?
Speaker 2 (35:57):
I love it? Number four? Who are we in?
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Here's you, everyone around me who's having a hard time,
whatever part of life you're in, and is able to
survive and able to push through. I am inspired by
people's strength. And I don't mean it's in a cheesy way,
but when I see somebody surviving through something, I'm like, wow,
that that takes a lot of strength, and it almost
pushes me to say, hey, my situation's not that bad.
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I will keep on going. And so whether I'm suffering
from anxiety, depression, whatever the case may be, keep on
going because there's great stuff ahead of you. And it
inspires me just seeing the strength of others around me.
And that's one hundred percent honest.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
That's awesome and that leads perfect right in Number five,
what would you tell your seventeen year old.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Self, seventeen year old Bobby, you are doing rustling flee
mark because you are doing wrestling, bar shows, you are
doing commentary, you're doing ring announcing, You've got a few
other you know, stokes in the fire and all that.
Your life might not be one hundred percent, but man,
you're doing pretty good. Keep on going. It's you're doing
pretty good.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
If people want to find out more about you, follow
you online, come see your shows, come see you all
the things.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
How can they do it all?
Speaker 3 (37:06):
So? I'm not so big on social media. I try
once in a while, but you know, real life gets
in the way. But if you want to follow me Instagram, Twitter,
Doctor Bob Commentary, Sam adel on both. I've got a
Facebook too that I push about virtue, and you'll see
some of my stuff. I'd like to put Facebook advants
and stuff to invite people, oh Bert, But yeah, le's
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stay on Twitter, Doctor Bob Commentary. If I'm not the
most active on there, I apologize, but you know I'll
reply message when everyone comes my way.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I love it, Doctor Bob, Thank you so much. I
feel like we've just scratched the surface, and we could
probably talk about wrestling for hours, if not days, considering
how much we've consumed and experienced in our own lives
so but I can't wait to have you back on
the show. And while next time I'm in Canada, I
will definitely come swing by.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
So I need to see, I hear you're here. If
you're here. On November twenty sixth, I have wrestling BArch
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fun stuff happening.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Thanks so much for doctor Bob for being on the
show again. Definitely make sure to follow him on social
media because he is doing so many things. Were to
be commentating, re announcing, hosting shows of his own obviously
the flea market that he's doing so many good things
and you definitely want to check him out, so.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Why you're checking him out, Definitely make sure.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
To go check us out on social media. It is
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