October 8, 2025 • 54 mins
In January of 2025, Los Angeles was hit with devastating fires in the Pacific Palisades, Malibu and Eaton Canyon. Thirty-one people died in the fires and tens of thousands of buildings mostly homes were totally destroyed. Local politicians failed to prevent catastrophic losses of both life and property.
Tonia Arey recognized the broad failures of government and in particular her local Board of Supervisor member Lindsey Horvath. Horvath is a very powerful political figure with two million constituents. Supervisor Horvath sensitive to the criticism, compounded these failures by supporting the dumping of toxic waste from these fires into two dumps, Calabasas and Sunshine Canyon, that were not rated to accept toxic waste generated from these fires.
As these communities raised health concerns Supervisor Horvath dismissed these concerns and ultimately refused to talk to concerned community members. We will talk with Tonia about her run to unseat Supervisor Horvath.
Tonia Arey recognized the broad failures of government and in particular her local Board of Supervisor member Lindsey Horvath. Horvath is a very powerful political figure with two million constituents. Supervisor Horvath sensitive to the criticism, compounded these failures by supporting the dumping of toxic waste from these fires into two dumps, Calabasas and Sunshine Canyon, that were not rated to accept toxic waste generated from these fires.
As these communities raised health concerns Supervisor Horvath dismissed these concerns and ultimately refused to talk to concerned community members. We will talk with Tonia about her run to unseat Supervisor Horvath.
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Now today, you know I got to address there's always
so much going on. Because I only do a weekly show,
there's so many things I can talk about. But today's show,
we're going to talk to Tanya Aira. She's running for
the third Supervisorial District in Los Angeles County. But before
we get to Tanya, I'm going to talk about some
stuff that's going on in Chicago and Portland.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Just give my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I don't have any videos, I don't have any newspaper clippings.
I just want to talk about what is going on.
And I've talked about this on a show that I've
been kind of plugging, and that is the Political Theater Show.
It's a Spaces show on X and they've morphed into
a podcast and they're on all the radio platforms now
and it's a growing show with Walter Kirk who's been
(02:12):
on My show and Trash Discourse, so he uses a
known de gatder to hide his real identity. But they're
both the hosts and they run the show, and they
bring me up to talk about a wide variety of issues,
mostly law enforcement issues, and they showed me with great respect.
And I've been talking about what's going on in Chicago
and Portland because I've probably been involved in handling at
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least one hundred demonstrations and protests and various types violent,
non violent. And as I'm watching what's going on in
Portland and Chicago, I can't help but not talk about
what we did in here in Los Angeles. Los Angeles,
the the riots because of the ice enforcement were very violent,
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they were destructive, but they were limited to a certain area.
And as as I played on my show a clip
from the Chief of Police, Chief MacDonald, he talked about
how they were getting out of hand and and he
he implied that, yeah, maybe it's getting pretty close to
using the National Guard. He didn't say that, but that
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was that was implied in the statement. I know the man,
and I know that he doesn't he doesn't he when
he says something, he's very serious about what he says
and what he means. And and he said it was
getting out of hand. And that for LAPD to say
that where they got like nine thousand officers, they got
the support of the LA kind of shrifes for him
has nine thousand deputies and the CHP, that's saying something.
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That's saying something. But what they did in LA is
they said we don't need the National Guard, and so
we can handle it. That's what's Marba said, right. I
mean she denegrated Trump, denegrated everybody, but she said we
can handle it. So did Gavin Newsom. He said, we
can handle it. We don't need the National Guard. Trump's
just trying to send the military ind to take over
the world. Right, that's kind of the junk there saying.
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But they put themselves in a box that meant, okay,
you can handle it, handle it, and they did, and
they gave the authority to the LAPD to do the job.
They cleared out all those protesters in front of the
ICE facility and so by the time the National guardsmen
got there, they were pretty bored. They didn't have anything
to do because most of the most of the violent
protesters had been cleared out right by LAPD, the Sheriff's Fartment.
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And I got a call out the CHP because they
took rocks and bottles and bricks, and I showed some
of those clips on my show. But they did a
great job too. But here's here's what they're left with
nothing going on in la Right, they don't have a
flashpoint for the Democrats to say Trump is taken over
the world. Trump withdrew troops because the locals did their job.
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They protected the federal buildings, they protected ICE agents as
they were just trying to do their job going to
and from. But in Portland and Chicago they have laid
down the gland. They said, not only are we not
going to assist ICE and acting immigrants, We're not going
to assist. We're not going to insist assist ICE in
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any way. We're not going to clear out the streets
in front of their buildings. We're not going to respond
to any aid, any aid requests from ICE. We're not
going to do anything to help them, nothing at all.
And of course what's the natural response of the Trump
and administration is to send in troops to assist Ice. Now,
what most people don't know, and they're talking about using
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the the Insiration the Insurrection Act that was implemented in
eighteen oh seven, that has been used several times by
President I think it's up to thirty times. It's been
used to enforce federal law. And I just want to
give you one example, or maybe I'll give you a
couple examples. So this one is Dwight Eisenhower. When they
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wanted to integrate Little Rock High School. I think this
was in the late fifties, might have been early sixties.
He used the Insurrection Act because the local authorities were
using their their police and their National Guard to prevent
the the integration of their schools. And so what he
did is he he he used the the the Insiration
(06:10):
Insurrection Act, I can get there right, Insurrection Act, and
he nationalized the National Guard over there in uh In
uh In, Arkansas, stood them down and sending the hundred
first Airborne and they integrated.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The schools in Arkansas. So he used it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And now keep in mind, so let's do a comparison.
They're they're refusing to abide by federal law. Eisenhower uses
that Act to take control of the National Guard and
ensure the enforcement of federal law over the resistance of
state authorities. That's what was going on at the time. Now,
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let's look at Portland and Chicago, because I'm just trying
to break this down for common sense for you guys.
Portland is very aggressfully said that they would resist any
ice action in their city to the they even cited
them for putting plywood on their windows instead. That's a
violation their code enforcement. That's how far they're going in
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Chicago and the small city that this detention facility is
contained and are doing exactly the same thing. They tried
to box in some ice agents of ten cars and
ended up in a shooting and there was a standown
order from Chicago pet So they won't even go help
these guys when they're under attack. That's where they're at.
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They're resisting. You can't come on our property to do
any ice enforcement. You can't even stage on our property.
That's the executiveor that came out of Chicago to do
any ice enforcement. That is using your resources, your political
your political capital, your voice, and your citizens to prevent
the enforcement of a law. To me, this is very
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consistent with what Eisenhower was dealing with the integration of
schools in Arkansas. It's the wholesale violation and resistance to
the enforcement of the laws today under immigration. And let's
one more factoid for you guys. These laws that Trump
is using to enforce immigration laws. These these laws have
been on the books for decades. They were used by Obama,
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who deported two point seven million migrants. He was nicknamed
the Deporter in Chief. He used the exact same laws
that Trump is using. So what changed just a letter
after their name. One was a Democrat who it was
politically expedient to do the deportations then and once a Republican,
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and it's not politically expedient for the Democrats to do
it now. And this is this is outrageous with Chicago
because I mean because Obama's from Illinois, so Illinois definitely
helped Obama deport people. And so what changed. Not a
damn thing changed. It's just the political calculus for the
Democrats have changed. And they are using the media and
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their there they're they're using their political voice to try
and suggest that Trump is doing something wrong. But Trump
is merely doing what previous presidents have done, including including
their star Barack Obama, he did exactly the same thing
to deport a two point seven million people from the
United States. Well, he was president, he was the deporter
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in chief at the time. It worked for them at
the time. Now it doesn't work for them, so they
don't want to do that. Okay, So I want to
before we bring on our guests. I got one more
story and it's related to my guest anyways. So and
that is they arrested a suspect for the fires in
Pacific Palisades in California. So the January seventh fires that
started January seventh. Now, we had multiple fires going, but
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the two big ones were Palisades and e Canyon. We're
gonna talk a little bit about both of them today.
But they made an arrest today the assistant US Attorney
or I guess he's the interview is attorney. I can't
remember what his name is now, Bill A.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Salee.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
They won't, they won't, they won't come firmham, you know. So,
you know, so they took him out of being the
interim US attorney. Now I think he's an assistant US attorney,
but he's still the guy in charge in the Central
District in California. He's a formerly state assemblyman who was
just killing him, killing it up there, torturing the Democrats
and in Sacramento before they made him the US attorney
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here in the Central District. And he he announced the
arrest of let's see Jonathan render Rendernick of the Pacific Palisades.
He's actually living in Florida now, but he was Palisades
for starting the fires. Let's look roll with the clip
and then we'll get into the story.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Good morning, I'm Bill Saley, the acting United States Attorney
for the Central District of California. Today we are announcing
the arrest of twenty nine year old Jonathan grinderncked for
igniting a fire that ultimately burned down the Palisades earlier
this year, killing twelve people, destroying more than sixty eight
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hundred structures, both homes and businesses, and damaging over one
thousand more buildings.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The complaint, unsealed today.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Charges the defendant with destruction of property by means of fire,
a felony that carries a mandatory minimum five year federal
prison sentence and is punishable by up to twenty years
in federal prison. The defendant was arrested yesterday on a
federal criminal complaint near his Florida residence, and he's expected
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to make his initial appearance today in the federal court
in Orlando, Florida. I stress that the complaint contains allegations,
and every defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty in
a court of law. The allegations in the affidavit are
supported by digital evidence, including the defendant's chatchpt prompt of
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a dystopian painting showing in part a burning forest and
a crowd fleeing from it. And we're going to put
that up on the screen here once we get that going.
The allegations are there.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
It is. That's from his chat gpt uh.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
That's an image he produced a few months before the
fire started.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It shows a city being burned there.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
The allegations are further supported by the defendant cell phone,
his false statements to law enforcement, and his behavior during
the Lachman fire, which defendant is charged with maliciously starting
shortly after midnight on New Year's Day of this year,
and which eventually.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Became the Palistats Fire.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Late last New Year's Eve, Rindernett returned to Pacific Palistates
after working the evening shift as an Uber driver. Two
of his passengers told law enforcement that he appeared agitated
and angry that night.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
After dropping off a.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Passenger in Pacific Palisades, Rinderneck parked his car and tried
and failed to contact a former friend. He exited the car,
walked up a nearby trail, took iPhone videos at a
nearby hilltop, and listened to a rap song whose music
video including objects being lit on fire.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
The defendant had listened to this song.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
And watched its music video repeatedly in the days leading
up to the Lochman fire.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Twelve minutes into.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
The new year, environmental sensing platforms indicated that a fire
had started.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
It took the.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Defendant several tries to contact.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Nine to one one to report the fire.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
He fled the scene in his car, but turned around
after passing fire engines, driving in the opposite direction to
fight there to fight the fire. While the Lockman fire burned,
the defendant walked up the same trail from earlier that
night to watch the fire and firefighters, using his iPhone
to take short videos of the scene. Although firefighters suppressed
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the blaze, the fire continued to smolder and burn underground
within the root structure of the dense vegetation. So that
fire started on January first, and it smoldered underground for
about a week until on January seventh, heavy winds caused
this underground fire to surface and spread above ground, causing
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what became known as the Palisades Fire.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, so you're listening to Bill a sale. You say, there,
you know, I'll give you a few more details. So
I got their statement that they put out online, So
during the interview, so this is during his interview with
law enforcement on January twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, so
this was not long after the fires. He lied about
where he was when he first saw the Lockman fire,
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so the fire that started on New Year's Eve that
they call that the Lockman fire. He claimed that he
was near the bottom of the hiking trail when he
first saw the fire and called nine to one, But
geolocation data from his iPhone carrier showed that he was
standing in a clearing thirty three thirty feet from the
fire that was rapidly growing, right, So that kind of
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pins him to the location. And certainly when you lie
to the police that obviously it gives you consciousness of
guilt and you're trying to avoid that. It does say
if convicted, this guy could face a mandatory minimum sentence
of five years in federal prison and or statutory maximum
of twenty years in prison. And the ATF did this
investigation with the assist of the obviously the fire services
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in LAPD. Now somebody I did get asked, you know,
would he face charges for the death, So they can
they can upgrade the charges on this if they want.
To and there is there's an interesting thing. So the
fire folks went out. La City fire went out, and
La County Fire went out, and they put this fire
out on New Year's Eve, right, And generally their practice,
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and I've seen them do it on dozens of brush fires,
is they'll monitor the area for a given period of
time to see if there's any smokes because they're under
they are aware of smoldering uh bushes and embers and
that it goes underground, and they'll monitor it and if
they believe that it's okay after a few days, they'll
they'll take their monitoring folks out of there. I have
a feeling after this fire, you know we're gonna we're
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gonna see some changes and procedures for those fire services
in wild land fire areas where where it's here in
high desert areas like we are in California, and when
you get these big wins like we do with the
Santa Anas that they're going to, you'll now project if
wins over a certain mount or you that you have
to go back to those areas where there's recent fires
and monitor them and put equipment there. So I have
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a feeling we'll see it changes in in how the
fire services response.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think they did it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I remember because I remember them talking about this and
that that was the little the likely origin and that
I've been waiting for this to drop ever since, because
they talked about this within a week after the Palisades fire,
that it was likely the fire that started on New
Year's Eve. And if you think about it, if you
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think about you know when you have a fire in
your fireplace and it kind of goes down a little
bit and you get the accordion kind of blower in
there and you use it, pump it in it just
the fire goes that's what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
That's exactly what they're talking about. Now.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
We had a big fire that rolled through my area
here and my Deaths area too. She was still talked,
is that's the Wolseley fire. And after that rolled through,
I went on some of the local hiking trails that
I hiked all the time, and there were a lot
of burning embers that were still going on. Now that
was a broad area and a lot of forested area,
so there was a lot of brush still burning, and
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the fire guys stayed in place for weeks weeks because
of that and I think we got a good rain
and that finally put a lot of it out and
so they could they could back off. So so thank
you to the ATF and the LAPDE and the Fire
Service for all.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
The work they did on that.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I think that's fantastic that we caught this guy. And
I'll be looking forward to following that case. And you know,
as indictment stopped, they put a full indictment down. I'll
bring it on and we'll read about that indictment. But
you know, I think we're ready for our guests. Our
guest is Tanya Aira and she is running for the
third Supervisorial District in La County. Largely her candidacy is
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largely born out of fire, out of these fires in
the Palisades and the confidence of county government and city
government for that matter, in handling it and the failure
of county government to listen to its constituents as it
talks about cleaning up after the fires. But let's bring
on Tanya, and she could tell you for herself. Hey, Tanya,
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how you doing, Hi?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Chief doing well? Thank you? Thank you for having.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Me all right, so, hey, we're happy, right, we got
the guy who started the fire. At least that's a
step in the positive direction. We got to thank our
law enforce because you're a big law enforcement support and
fire support. You got to thank those guys for doing
their job right.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Absolutely, you know, it's better to it's better to take
as long as they've taken to make sure that they
did not get the wrong person and then having to
start over, because then if they got the wrong person
and the person who actually did it is out there watching,
that just gives them more opportunity to flee. I mean,
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this guy fled to what Florida he could have you know,
kept going across the pond. So yes, it's I'm very
grateful for it. It's a start, It's definitely, it's definitely
a start.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, you can find Tanya's website for a campaign. It's
at Tanya Tate t O N I A A R
E Y for the number four supervisor dot com. So
go to that website and you can catch alliver all
of our platform and make a donation too. So all right,
so your candioncy is born out of these fires, right,
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you know what, Well, first tell us about yourself and
what brought you to run for supervisor.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Well, if I tell you about myself. We'll be here
probably for a few days.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Okay, abbreviated version.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Okay, I'll do abbreviated as I can, and I'll just
I'll keep it pertinent to where we are now and
how I got here recently. So you know, as you
were talking about the the when the fire came through,
and I live in an area where I'm fortunate that
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it was not the Palisades, but it was the Woozley
fire and the aftermath of the fire, watching and listening
to local government talk about not much because they weren't
doing much. Now I understand they're not firefighters, but if
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you're hired and hired people voting for you to lead
them and to be there and protect them and give
them communication, you need to be boots on the ground.
You know, the second you're able to because of a
reporter can stand in the middle of an inferno. There's
no reason why a supervisor, a governor, the mayor cannot
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be I'll give them benefit of a doubt, can't do
anything during but the next day to provide information and
bring information back. It's the number one thing is communication,
and there is no communication. There has been no communication,
so you know, after the fires, it's just you're seeing
how things are done. And then I live adjacent to
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a landfill and people have heard, you know, the debris
was going to the Calabasas Landfill and then the Sunshine
Canyon landfill, which is in Granada Hills area. To your guests,
this is not about Nimby, not in my backyard. It
is absolutely not that. Look, if the Calabasis Landfill was
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a Classified one landfill that could take and receive toxic
and hazardous materials, fine, not a problem. But it's a
Class three, which is a municipal landfill, which in simple
terms and late terms, it's the businesses around here, it's
the household items. A friend of mine, he's a contractor,
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and if he is dumping tires, they won't let him
dump a tire, But it's okay to dump the debris
from the landfill. Right. You can't tell me there isn't
toxic materials and hazardous materials in that so anyhow So,
when that happened, a group in the community was formed.
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It's called Protect Calabasis, and I quickly got wind of this.
I started getting involved, and as I was in it
more as I was participating more. My eyes became a
lot more open, as did my ears, because we were
calling out for our supervisor to have a conversation. Now,
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let me tell you on in Calabasas, on Agra Road,
you can look it up. There is a field office
for the supervisor. Okay, her name is out there, you know,
Supervisor Lindsay Horvath office. We called for her to speak
with her. We asked her to come and meet with us.
She never showed up. We went to our office, we
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knocked on her door, we started protesting out her door.
She did not show up. She failed to communicate with us.
And then when they were planning when the Board of
Supervisors was planning on where the debrio was going to
be taken, they knew about what they were going to
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vote on. I think it was at least a week
and a half two weeks out. They did not notify
the city of Calabasas until two days prior. Oh hey,
by the way, we're going to be voting on this,
so maybe you want to show up now. I was
unable to attend that meeting, but friends that were there
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I was told that they did not address the issue
until it was like five o'clock at night, and the
other supervisors were rude. They're just walking around. But I
did watch a clip of it. Now, Horvath, she's younger. Fine,
I have no problem with that. She's in politics. That's great.
But the number one thing that anybody should do is
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to respect their seniors, someone senior to them. And even
you're in a position such as supervisor, you respect your constituents. Now,
if you've ever seen the chambers, you know the chambers,
the desks, you know, they're kind of up here and
the floors here. And the constituents come to a podium,
and a constituent came up and he wanted to talk
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about the landfill. And he was older than her. I
don't know exactly how old, but if I were to
guess mid sixties. And she started to get very argumentative
with him, and then you start to see her puffer
chest kind of like this looking down. Now you're getting defensive.
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You're being rude to someone who's your senior. You're being
rude to someone you're constituent, who hired you or didn't
hire you. You have a conversation. When I saw that
display of authority, it was just it was appalling and
it was a catalyst because not to mention, there's so
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many things where the local government has failed. And I
just I put my foot down and I said, I
need to do something. What can I do? And a
friend just as I'm saying that, I'm out tied with
my dog. I'm walking my dog. There's a little park
near us, and I'm pacing. What can I do? What
can I do? Get a phone call for my friend?
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He says, you know, because he's friends with people in
the city of Calabasas. He says, I just got a
phone call. There's you know, you should run for assembly
because they asked me to run for assembly and I
can't do it. I think you should do it. And
I said, okay, yeah, maybe I sent a text message.
During the fires, I connected with a woman, Cec Woods,
(26:31):
who's an investigative reporter in Malibu. And this goes back
just a little bit. Remember you asked me to say
how I got here.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I can't. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine, right.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
So we were evacuated, but myself and a friend and
another neighbor we stayed back. Then the Calabasas fire started,
and this went right up to my friend's backyard. Good thing.
She likes pink. That's her favorite color. Because you know,
she got the fire retardant on her house. Her husband
wasn't so thrilled, but hey, it looked good for a minute.
That's how close it was. I get an alert on
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my phone. Something came through her newsfeed to me saying,
I have on good authority that Calabasis fire was arson.
I said, yes, it is, because I'm outside here with
my friend and our dogs and the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department.
That little park I just told you about how that
surrounded it was taped off. A guy was sitting in
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the middle. Can you send me pictures?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
I sent her pictures. And then from that we established
a relationship because then there were some other aspects happening,
and we kept in touch. You know, we got along
fairly well. She's a very strong woman, as I am too,
so we've got that in common. And time went on.
So now we get that phone call on my friend.
(27:46):
Assembly I go to the gym and I see a
guy there who I've seen at Starbucks right every morning
for years, and it's just kind of like, hey, what
up right? That's it. I started at a gym. My
first day there. He walks in and I said, aren't
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you Paul Scravano And he's like, I'm not sure. Is
that a good thing or a bad thing. I said,
it's a great thing. Started talking to him and I
told him what I'm doing. He said, no, you're running
for supervisor. I said, excuse me. Called Ceci. She said, yes,
this is a great idea. Let I have a friend,
(28:27):
Let me call him. Let me speak to him. I said,
he say, no, Ceci, I'm fine with going for Assembly
because I'm not a politician. I don't have a background,
and it's a good entry position. She said, no, let
me make a phone call. She makes a phone call. Okay,
we're going to have lunch with somebody. That lunch didn't happen.
It ended up being a zoom call, and it was
with former sheriff Alexville Nueva and I live in an
(28:51):
area where there's celebrities and stuff, and I'm not starstruck
by those people. I said, I'm going to be on
zoom with this guy. Because I didn't want to take
what Paul was saying. I didn't want to take what
Cec was saying. I didn't want to take about what
a friend was saying, let me take let me listen
to Alex. So I listened to Alex. I asked him
the questions and I said, okay, let me think about this.
(29:13):
We then we met for lunch. I asked the questions
and I said, you know what it's I couldn't sleep
that night because I realized that I am I'm meant
to be here. This is what I need to do,
and it comes from passion. It doesn't come from climbing
a political ladder. It doesn't come from oh I need
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to be like misauthority over here. It comes from passion
because when you're afraid to walk out your front door,
when you expect a leader to be there so you
can talk to them about hey, the landfill and they're
not there for you, and they don't show up, and
you see so many other things that has gone wrong
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with La County and specific specifically the third District. I said,
you know what, I'm going to do this and Ceci,
she said, I'm going to run your campaign. I said okay,
but we talked. She said, you commit to me, I
commit to you, and we're going to do this. And
(30:17):
we've been doing this since April and so far, I
have to say it's a lot of work. It's a
lot of you know, mental exhaustion because you know, reading
things and getting up on everything. Right. So it's but
people have been gravitating towards me, people who have been
(30:37):
reaching out towards me. I want to know you, I
want to do this for you. And so in a nutshell,
that's how I got here.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, that doesn't happen. I mean, I've worked on some
campaigns before. To have people reaching out to you means
that they're really angry at Lindsay Horvath, and so they're
reaching out to you, and we're going to we're going
to get in some reasons why they might be angry.
But let's let's I think I got a clip of
the fire just to give people an idea of what
we were dealing with at the Palisades and Eaton Canyon.
Let's roll with that clip and then we'll can you
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roll that, Amanda.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
I just to say, I've never seen anything like this here.
I grew up in southern California. This is like nothing
we've ever seen. With multiple fires raging across the LA
region right now and here in Malibu, it's truly an
apocalyptic scene. We're on the Pacific Coast Highway right now,
where home after home after home beachfront properties are in
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Gulfston flames. I am looking at a mansion right now,
a beach view mansion up in the hills, is just
basically exploded. And the reason we're separated from my crew
right now is because we had just gone a little
bit down the road and spoke something out and we
turned around and there was then a live wire that
had a power line had fallen and a live wire
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was blocking the road, and now it's blocked first responders.
I mean, you know, the most important thing now is
that there are multiple fire trucks here that I'm looking
at a stalled and can't get through because this live
wire is downlocking the road.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, for our guys in the radio, you can't see it,
but it's apocalypsetic fires is what was going on at
the time. But yeah, you're right, the reporters out there,
and Lindsay Harborth wasn't out there. But I want to
roll into I know, I got another clip and this
is Calabasa's landfill. So let's will lay down this argument too.
Go ahead and roll with that one. This violence that
I've seen is disgusting.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
It's escalated now since the beginning of this incident.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
What we saw the first night was bad.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What we've seen that's the wrong one, Amanda. That's last
week's show. Do we have the clip for the Calabasas landfill?
Gotta be flexible when you're live, right, If we don't,
just say no and I'll move on and we don't. Okay,
how about the Lindsay Horvath one, just the forty five seconds,
(32:53):
if you got a chance to addit. That the Sunshine
Canyon landfall.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Here we go, that's where it hi.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, where local residents are demonstrating as we speak, to
demand that no toxic fire debris get dumped into that landfill.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Yeah. The group of protesters carrying signs and shouting shut
it down outside that landfill tonight. The landfill is Class
three facility, which is not certified to hold toxic materials.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Obviously it's close to residences.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
So.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I can't hear you, Chief, you are I mute?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Here we go always to house as. That's a little better. Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
So there's there was an indication that both Sunshine Canyon,
which is also rated of three, as I understanding, and
ours Calabasas are rated three. That the material that it
couldn't take this material. However, Lindsey Horbet ignored that.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
And both of these.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Are in her district, right, I gotta frame this right,
Both of these are in her district. She had people
protesting on both on far ends of her district. And
people got to understand. There's two million people in her district.
LA County has ten million people. Each board of supervisors
has two million people that they service, and her area
is huge, and she is she is she's ignoring, she's
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ignoring him, She's not she's not there, she won't talk
to him, and she she acquiesced. But I think people
need to understand why she acquiesced, because that's not being said.
The local government and the state government failed to protect
these communities. They passed regulations that made it harder to
mitigate fire risky. They did not have proper water set
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for Palisades. This moved into Malibu, which is I got
to talk about that because it's her area. This Palisades
fire went into Malibu and burned down a bunch of
homes and businesses there as well. So this is definitely
Lindsay Horvos area, and she she acquiesced to everybody else
so that they can clean up the area quickly because
the pressure from the mayor's office, the pressure from the
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governor's offic was we have to look like we're doing something,
and hauling all this debris up to Kern County more
than one hundred miles away wasn't in the playbook because
it didn't allow them to fix this problem quickly so
that they can actually start rebuilding as quickly as possible.
(35:20):
So they made a political I think they made a
political calculus. We're going to ignore the laws. We're going
to dump them locally so that we look like we're
getting something done today. That's what I think happened. That's
why she ignored you. That's why she ignored the community.
You can't agree with that, right, So.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Just real quick that clip you played, if you were
to take away you know, Sunshine Canyon and put Calabassies,
it's the exact same image because we were out there
with our signs and you know, hollering and asking for
her to show up, and she wasn't there. So, you know,
doing my research on Supervisor Horrorvath and about the landfill
(35:59):
and distributing the debris. And this is from an interview
that she gave and I think I'm pretty sure is
that clip you just showed February twenty fourth, and I
quote so excuse me if I'm not looking at the camera,
because I want to read this show. It's meaning the
debris is being taken to places that are specifically licensed
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to handle that debris. Many of those locations are far
outside La County. Those are her words. Okay, So is
it less expensive to haul debris from the Palisades to
Granada Hills, to Seem Valley to which is not in
her district, and to Calabasas. Absolutely, But what's going to
(36:43):
happen in three years and five years? People are going
to be sick? And what does she care? She lives
in West Hollywood and in ten years, what does she care?
Or what does everybody else care? Because they're not going
to be here. And I have to say, this is
another area where I'm very disappointed. I'm a huge supporter
of law enforcement, our military. But the US Army Colonel
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of Engineering, Brian Schwasser, he agreed with this. He said,
let's take it to Calabasis. Let's take it there is it.
Will it cost more money to go to a class three? Absolutely?
Is it going to take more time? Absolutely? But in
ten years we may be doing this interview and I
(37:29):
may be sitting in a wheelchair and have an oxygen
tank or you may you know, the same thing, and
that's a tragedy. If gosh, I think it was the
beginning of this year. On Netflix, there's a show called
Toxic Town. Now this happened in the UK. You just
watched the first ten minutes. It's no different of what
was going on here. And Supervisor Horvath, she likes to say,
(37:57):
look here I am, I'm doing this, and we're gonna
make this and raw, raw, raw and everything else. So
she can say something. She's there, she does it, but
then she disappears because just like this, when when we
called for her, you know, we showed up to her
office in Calabasas and the staff said she's not available.
You can make an appointment in two weeks or so forth,
(38:20):
and she just is not available. I mean, if you
go to my Instagram, you know, someone said to me,
they said, wow, you sure do you know kind of
you know pin things on Horrorbath And I said, well,
everything I'm putting is factual, and I'm not saying horror
bath is this, or horror bath is that. It's based
(38:41):
upon news media. But let me bring this to your
attention and to the audience's attention. It's not on ABC News,
it's not on Fox LA News, it's not on CBS,
KKEL or anything. These are publications that are under the radar.
It's Campus Reform, it's west Side Current. And I'm not
(39:02):
I'm not like dogging any of these publications. But the
point is she does a very good job in making
sure that anything that happens are not on mainstream media.
So well, she's not me now.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So yeah, well you're calling her out. You can you
ignore the community. We're gonna we're gonna make some noise,
and I'm going to run against you and I'm going
to force you into a situation where you have to
address it, which is really what we're talking about. But
we won't know the results of her decision today in
Calabasas or in Granada Hills with Sunshine Canyon till decades later.
The families that live in those areas that have to
(39:38):
deal with it, not her, because she'll be she'll be
out of that office. She'll be the either the mayor
or because she she's ambition. The difference between you and
her is yours is passion, her as ambition. There's a
difference there, right, there's a difference there.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
But I wanted to I wanted to get into some
of the other things. I mean, we could talk fire
for like four hours, I think on this stuff. But
and there are some failures on there, and we'll get
into a little more of these failures we have time
at Eaton Canyon. But I want to talk about her
lack of support for law enforcement as well. And I
think I have a let's see, let's let's roll with
(40:13):
a slide here. I got a side supports George Foro
Soros funded DA George Gascone.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Can you throw that up there?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
So this is from George Gascon's website when he ran
the last time, now more than sixty percent of the
people in La County didn't want him. And you can
see her name, Lindsey Horvath, Holly Mitchell, hild Us. At
least three members you can take it down now, of
the La County Board of Supervisors. Many members of the
are several members of the La City Council. But the public,
(40:41):
the polls that showed that everybody was against George Gascon,
who was who stopped prosecuting laws, who allowed the homelessness
thing to get out of control in La County. Who
we saw overdose deaths in La County skyrocket because of
George Gascon, and Lindsay Horvoth supported him. Now, when he
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first ran, he had millions of dollars, and every single
Democrat came out of their wouldwork. They jettison Jackie Lacey
was a great da to jump on the bandwagon. George
guest going because he had a lot of money. Soros
was funding everything, and every Democrat supported him. His run
against Nathan Hofkman his re election, A lot of those
Democrats didn't support him, but Lindsay Horvoth did. Lindsay Horvath
(41:28):
supported this nonsense, the increasing crime, the defunding the police,
the bail reform where there is no bail. She supported
this nonsense, along with two other Democratic Socialists on the
La County Board of Supervisors and Democratic Socialists on the
La City Council. And I take that from Robert Lucero,
a modern Democrat who I interviewed last week who said
the Democratic Socialists had their chance, they failed, They're incompetent.
(41:52):
They need to be out of office. And she's a
Democratic Socialist. That's why she needs to be out office. Right,
So the mere fact that she supports this nut, George
gast Gone disqualifies her for another term.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Right. First of all, Jonathan Hatammy should be our DA
hands down. I mean, I remember when that election was
going on, and I don't really remember the name Hawkman.
I just remember everything was Somami Hatamy and it was
to Tommy for a very good reason. So how he
(42:23):
was not elected, I throw my hands up to that.
But we can keep throwing our hands up and our
arms are going to fall off. So as far as
law enforcement, you know, it's one can say. It's in
my blood. My father who's still with us, thank goodness.
He served in the US Army as MP. He was
stationed in Korea MP Military Police. If something happened, if
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something happens to me right now, if somebody's busting down
my door, right, who am I calling? I'm calling the police.
I'm calling law enforcement. If you don't have law enforcement,
how do you have law and order? Without law and order,
you get the chaos that you see in the streets
of La So if anybody watches you know what's going
(43:14):
on here, you know you start watching. I don't think
I've ever seen La La County on national news as
much as I have in the last year or two.
It's local news shore northern California, sure, southern national news
all the time. I mean, it's all the time, and
(43:35):
it's it's just it's disgusting and one of those things.
And I love telling this story because it's true. You know,
my mom she's with us, you know as well, thank goodness.
And and she likes going to the mall, and I
do not like going to the mall. I'll go to Arii.
That's my name in my name in Marcus is Arii.
(43:56):
And she says, oh, I'm going to the mall and
on the weekend, and you know what, I don't have
any plans today. Let me go to them all with
you and we'll make a day of it. My mom
is petite. She drives a red car, and she's a
target and the fat and look, my mom is quite together,
trust me. She runs on that treadmill forty five minutes
(44:16):
every morning. She's there. She is all there, but she's
five foot something, five foot two, she is a target.
And to not be able to go to your local shops,
I mean you can, you might get mugged. Right, So
it's you need law enforcement. And anybody who says defund
(44:38):
law enforcement again, let's throw the hands up again. But
you know when Horvath came into office in twenty two, right,
she lives in West Hollywood, and the first thing she
did was she removed two deputies from West Hollywood Sheriff's
Department and she replaced them with I believe it was
(44:59):
thirty three unarmed security guards. They were ambassadors of the
night or something to that effect. And that first year,
crime went up. I don't have the exact number in
front of me. It was about one hundred and forty
eight percent, with about fifty five percent of those being
a class one crime. A class one crime you can
tell the audience better than I can. But you know
(45:22):
it's your just your common you know, burglaries or homicides
and the list goes on if I'm not mistaken, right,
So how do you do that, especially in the neighborhood
that you live in. Of anything, I'd be like, okay,
I want I want to be safer. Let's get more
law enforcement. And you can get more law enforcement, and
(45:45):
it's simple. Here's how the Board of supervisors. The last
fiscal year, their budget was something like forty five billion dollars. Okay,
So when the sheriff comes to you and says, here's
my wish list, here's what I need to make sure
that my deputies are safe. To make sure and if
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my deputies are safe, they can keep you know, the
civilians safe and we can do our jobs. If we're
limited to our jobs, you're not going to be safe.
We're not going to be safe, and deputies end up dying.
It's the same thing with La County Fire Department. LA
fire chief comes in, here's my lease or my lease,
(46:28):
here's here's my list, and this is what I need
to keep a functioning, you know, fire department going. So
there's one of these homeless you know, spot fires or something.
If I have an engine at that fire and there's
a real fire, I'm okay because I know that I
have an engine that can actually cover that right now,
(46:49):
you can't. And it goes the same thing for a
Los Angeles Police department and you know, Los Angeles Fire
department So anybody who defunds public safety, I don't know
what they're thinking to be.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, I just I'll build on because I know the story.
So Lindsay Horvath in an agreement with the daughter of
the La Times, who was on her She was she
was on sabbatical for the summertime from Oxford in London,
and she needed to get her street creds and defund
the police crewds. And so she puts for defunding the
Sheriff's Department with a bunch of lies because I called
(47:25):
out her lives and she blocked me on Twitter. But
she she she got the defunding and went back to Oxford,
and Lindsay Harvroth got the she got the endorsement of
LA Times and became the next Board of supervisors. You know,
and I met Lindsay Horvash. She said she supported the
police until she was running for the Board of super
She said to me personally, I support the police.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
I support you well.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Then and then when she was running for office, she
cut she cut our budget.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
Well when she was running in two thousand and uh,
you know, when she was running she also said that
she's not anti Semitic. Well, well, it may of twenty
twenty four. Last year, when there were pro Hamas agitators
at UCLA, you know, campus and setting up camps and everything,
those agitators that were harassing, harassing Jewish students who were arrested,
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she authored a bill and pushed it through for those
Harmas agitators supporters of Harmas to have legal aid in
addition to their public defenders. I don't know how else
you can.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Spell Jewish students.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Oh yeah, this goes.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
This goes what I was saying earlier. She's very good
at saying, hey, look at me. You know, I'm here
to support this, and then the second she gets your support,
she turns her back on you and does completely other things.
And again, I'll say this again. If you go to
my Instagram, all the stories, all the posts, you see
there is what I'm talking about. I'm not making this
(49:01):
stuff up.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
And they can find your Instagram via your website, right,
So yeah, the bottom of the website and just hit
the Instagram. Okay, I got what I got. I think
I've got time for one more element that we need
to talk about. So recently, the Lli County Board of
Supervisors made in their Supreme Wisdom with Lindsay Horvat supporting this.
We passed Prop thirty six, the tough on laws, right
(49:24):
and she, she and the rest of these knuckleheads on
the border supervisors cut the new DA's budget by twenty
four million dollars. I you know, so this, this is
here's dumbing the nose at the at the voters who
passed Prop thirty six. I don't care what you say.
I'm going to defund the DA so he can't prosecute
those those crimes that you want prosecuted. This is who
(49:46):
Lindsay Harbot is. She's thumbing her nose at the community right.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
Well, and again it's like, we're not making this stuff up.
That is that was in the news. It's everywhere. You
can't make it up. Look if I was sitting here
and making everything up, it's like, okay, you know, you
don't have a you know, a ground to stand on
or anything. But this is how I've become passionate. This
is what drives me because I'm not doing this to
(50:14):
climb a political ladder. I'm not doing this to play
kate to a side. I'm doing this because I'm fed up.
I'm fed up of driving down the street sitting in
my car and there's a person, you know, coming towards
my car with like a stick or something that's going
to smash my car because they feel like that's what
they feel like doing, right, Because I mean, that's a
(50:35):
whole another rabbit hole we can go down maybe another time.
But you know, this is this is public safety. You
need public safety. I'll say it again, public safety. You
have law enforcement, you have law and order. You have
law and order, then you don't have the chaos that
is on the streets around us. It's that simple. It's
(50:57):
that it's that simple. Respect the badge, the badge was
you know, was created for a reason. And I do
also want to say one more thing. When I say
I support all of law enforcement, I also want to
include probation officers. Probation officers, they're like the dust under
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the rug and they should be acknowledged because they're dealing
with another type of criminal that we're not privy of
seeing because they're juveniles. And just on that note, real quick,
Horvath is also fighting to push a juvenile age from
eighteen to twenty five. Yep, twenty five years old and
you're a juvenile twenty five years old. You should be
(51:38):
living on your own, out of home and everything else,
so you need law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
I was working the streets, right, work in the streets,
you know, twenty three, you know, so I mean I'm
a juvenile still and I'm working the streets.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Yeah, that's that idiotic. Well, their brains aren't fully formed
till they're twenty five, so we can't really punish them.
That's that, that's that leftist nons and that's coming out
of here. I just want to include that she's against
building a men's central jail. She wants to close it down.
So how do you put people in jail when you
shut down jails?
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Right?
Speaker 1 (52:07):
But hey, we got about a little less than two
minutes left, Tanya, so this is your time to make
a pitch for Tanya Air Ray for Border Supervisors.
Speaker 5 (52:15):
Well, I'll start with that. It's airy Harry, Okay, not
a Ray not But actually, you know what, it doesn't matter.
Just when you get to the ballot and it says
a R E Y and it's the white girl with dreadlocks,
that's me mark that box. No, but seriously, my fight
is for not just myself, it's for all of us.
(52:36):
It's for everyone in La County. It's for everyone in
the third district because enough is enough. It's I'm sick
and I'm tired of it. I'm sure there's millions of
other people that are sick and tired of it. But
you know what, However, six months ago, I decided to
pick up the sword and I'm not letting go of it.
I am all the way to the very end. If
(52:58):
we work as a team, we can win this in
the primaries and we get to work. I get to work.
I'm not going to stop when I get into office.
It's a lot of work. It's very demanding. I'm aware
of that. But you know what, I've lived my life
to the point where I am, and I've experienced so much.
(53:20):
I've traveled the world. I've seen this, I've seen everything
has brought me to where I am right now, and
that is to become your next Third County third District
Supervisor and anybody, if you have questions, you want to
get to know me more. I'm actually doing an event
in Mission Hill, San Fernando this Saturday from twelve thirty
(53:41):
to two thirty at the Bear Barbecue Pit. Come you
can meet me and Chief is going to be there
with me. It's just it's very casual. I'm serving lunch,
but you message me on my social media. I'm not
afraid to look. I'm very transparent.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
All Right, we got a wrap.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
We are live within the show, so stick around for
a quick debrief. You can catch go to Tanya our
array there or Supervisor ar ray A R. E Y
for number four supervisor dot com. Check out our website,
check out her instagram, and if you're in the area,
go to the baar ped I'll be there. You can
see a medi personality me. Anyways, Yeah, we are done
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for the day. You can take this, take this, take
this show away, stick around for a minute.
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Now today, you know I got to address there's always
so much going on. Because I only do a weekly show,
there's so many things I can talk about. But today's show,
we're going to talk to Tanya Aira. She's running for
the third Supervisorial District in Los Angeles County. But before
we get to Tanya, I'm going to talk about some
stuff that's going on in Chicago and Portland.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Just give my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I don't have any videos, I don't have any newspaper clippings.
I just want to talk about what is going on.
And I've talked about this on a show that I've
been kind of plugging, and that is the Political Theater Show.
It's a Spaces show on X and they've morphed into
a podcast and they're on all the radio platforms now
and it's a growing show with Walter Kirk who's been
(02:12):
on My show and Trash Discourse, so he uses a
known de gatder to hide his real identity. But they're
both the hosts and they run the show, and they
bring me up to talk about a wide variety of issues,
mostly law enforcement issues, and they showed me with great respect.
And I've been talking about what's going on in Chicago
and Portland because I've probably been involved in handling at
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least one hundred demonstrations and protests and various types violent,
non violent. And as I'm watching what's going on in
Portland and Chicago, I can't help but not talk about
what we did in here in Los Angeles. Los Angeles,
the the riots because of the ice enforcement were very violent,
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they were destructive, but they were limited to a certain area.
And as as I played on my show a clip
from the Chief of Police, Chief MacDonald, he talked about
how they were getting out of hand and and he
he implied that, yeah, maybe it's getting pretty close to
using the National Guard. He didn't say that, but that
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was that was implied in the statement. I know the man,
and I know that he doesn't he doesn't he when
he says something, he's very serious about what he says
and what he means. And and he said it was
getting out of hand. And that for LAPD to say
that where they got like nine thousand officers, they got
the support of the LA kind of shrifes for him
has nine thousand deputies and the CHP, that's saying something.
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That's saying something. But what they did in LA is
they said we don't need the National Guard, and so
we can handle it. That's what's Marba said, right. I
mean she denegrated Trump, denegrated everybody, but she said we
can handle it. So did Gavin Newsom. He said, we
can handle it. We don't need the National Guard. Trump's
just trying to send the military ind to take over
the world. Right, that's kind of the junk there saying.
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But they put themselves in a box that meant, okay,
you can handle it, handle it, and they did, and
they gave the authority to the LAPD to do the job.
They cleared out all those protesters in front of the
ICE facility and so by the time the National guardsmen
got there, they were pretty bored. They didn't have anything
to do because most of the most of the violent
protesters had been cleared out right by LAPD, the Sheriff's Fartment.
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And I got a call out the CHP because they
took rocks and bottles and bricks, and I showed some
of those clips on my show. But they did a
great job too. But here's here's what they're left with
nothing going on in la Right, they don't have a
flashpoint for the Democrats to say Trump is taken over
the world. Trump withdrew troops because the locals did their job.
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They protected the federal buildings, they protected ICE agents as
they were just trying to do their job going to
and from. But in Portland and Chicago they have laid
down the gland. They said, not only are we not
going to assist ICE and acting immigrants, We're not going
to assist. We're not going to insist assist ICE in
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any way. We're not going to clear out the streets
in front of their buildings. We're not going to respond
to any aid, any aid requests from ICE. We're not
going to do anything to help them, nothing at all.
And of course what's the natural response of the Trump
and administration is to send in troops to assist Ice. Now,
what most people don't know, and they're talking about using
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the the Insiration the Insurrection Act that was implemented in
eighteen oh seven, that has been used several times by
President I think it's up to thirty times. It's been
used to enforce federal law. And I just want to
give you one example, or maybe I'll give you a
couple examples. So this one is Dwight Eisenhower. When they
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wanted to integrate Little Rock High School. I think this
was in the late fifties, might have been early sixties.
He used the Insurrection Act because the local authorities were
using their their police and their National Guard to prevent
the the integration of their schools. And so what he
did is he he he used the the the Insiration
(06:10):
Insurrection Act, I can get there right, Insurrection Act, and
he nationalized the National Guard over there in uh In
uh In, Arkansas, stood them down and sending the hundred
first Airborne and they integrated.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
The schools in Arkansas. So he used it.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
And now keep in mind, so let's do a comparison.
They're they're refusing to abide by federal law. Eisenhower uses
that Act to take control of the National Guard and
ensure the enforcement of federal law over the resistance of
state authorities. That's what was going on at the time. Now,
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let's look at Portland and Chicago, because I'm just trying
to break this down for common sense for you guys.
Portland is very aggressfully said that they would resist any
ice action in their city to the they even cited
them for putting plywood on their windows instead. That's a
violation their code enforcement. That's how far they're going in
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Chicago and the small city that this detention facility is
contained and are doing exactly the same thing. They tried
to box in some ice agents of ten cars and
ended up in a shooting and there was a standown
order from Chicago pet So they won't even go help
these guys when they're under attack. That's where they're at.
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They're resisting. You can't come on our property to do
any ice enforcement. You can't even stage on our property.
That's the executiveor that came out of Chicago to do
any ice enforcement. That is using your resources, your political
your political capital, your voice, and your citizens to prevent
the enforcement of a law. To me, this is very
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consistent with what Eisenhower was dealing with the integration of
schools in Arkansas. It's the wholesale violation and resistance to
the enforcement of the laws today under immigration. And let's
one more factoid for you guys. These laws that Trump
is using to enforce immigration laws. These these laws have
been on the books for decades. They were used by Obama,
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who deported two point seven million migrants. He was nicknamed
the Deporter in Chief. He used the exact same laws
that Trump is using. So what changed just a letter
after their name. One was a Democrat who it was
politically expedient to do the deportations then and once a Republican,
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and it's not politically expedient for the Democrats to do
it now. And this is this is outrageous with Chicago
because I mean because Obama's from Illinois, so Illinois definitely
helped Obama deport people. And so what changed. Not a
damn thing changed. It's just the political calculus for the
Democrats have changed. And they are using the media and
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their there they're they're using their political voice to try
and suggest that Trump is doing something wrong. But Trump
is merely doing what previous presidents have done, including including
their star Barack Obama, he did exactly the same thing
to deport a two point seven million people from the
United States. Well, he was president, he was the deporter
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in chief at the time. It worked for them at
the time. Now it doesn't work for them, so they
don't want to do that. Okay, So I want to
before we bring on our guests. I got one more
story and it's related to my guest anyways. So and
that is they arrested a suspect for the fires in
Pacific Palisades in California. So the January seventh fires that
started January seventh. Now, we had multiple fires going, but
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the two big ones were Palisades and e Canyon. We're
gonna talk a little bit about both of them today.
But they made an arrest today the assistant US Attorney
or I guess he's the interview is attorney. I can't
remember what his name is now, Bill A.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Salee.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
They won't, they won't, they won't come firmham, you know. So,
you know, so they took him out of being the
interim US attorney. Now I think he's an assistant US attorney,
but he's still the guy in charge in the Central
District in California. He's a formerly state assemblyman who was
just killing him, killing it up there, torturing the Democrats
and in Sacramento before they made him the US attorney
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here in the Central District. And he he announced the
arrest of let's see Jonathan render Rendernick of the Pacific Palisades.
He's actually living in Florida now, but he was Palisades
for starting the fires. Let's look roll with the clip
and then we'll get into the story.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Good morning, I'm Bill Saley, the acting United States Attorney
for the Central District of California. Today we are announcing
the arrest of twenty nine year old Jonathan grinderncked for
igniting a fire that ultimately burned down the Palisades earlier
this year, killing twelve people, destroying more than sixty eight
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hundred structures, both homes and businesses, and damaging over one
thousand more buildings.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The complaint, unsealed today.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Charges the defendant with destruction of property by means of fire,
a felony that carries a mandatory minimum five year federal
prison sentence and is punishable by up to twenty years
in federal prison. The defendant was arrested yesterday on a
federal criminal complaint near his Florida residence, and he's expected
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to make his initial appearance today in the federal court
in Orlando, Florida. I stress that the complaint contains allegations,
and every defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty in
a court of law. The allegations in the affidavit are
supported by digital evidence, including the defendant's chatchpt prompt of
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a dystopian painting showing in part a burning forest and
a crowd fleeing from it. And we're going to put
that up on the screen here once we get that going.
The allegations are there.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
It is. That's from his chat gpt uh.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
That's an image he produced a few months before the
fire started.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It shows a city being burned there.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
The allegations are further supported by the defendant cell phone,
his false statements to law enforcement, and his behavior during
the Lachman fire, which defendant is charged with maliciously starting
shortly after midnight on New Year's Day of this year,
and which eventually.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Became the Palistats Fire.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Late last New Year's Eve, Rindernett returned to Pacific Palistates
after working the evening shift as an Uber driver. Two
of his passengers told law enforcement that he appeared agitated
and angry that night.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
After dropping off a.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Passenger in Pacific Palisades, Rinderneck parked his car and tried
and failed to contact a former friend. He exited the car,
walked up a nearby trail, took iPhone videos at a
nearby hilltop, and listened to a rap song whose music
video including objects being lit on fire.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
The defendant had listened to this song.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
And watched its music video repeatedly in the days leading
up to the Lochman fire.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Twelve minutes into.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
The new year, environmental sensing platforms indicated that a fire
had started.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
It took the.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Defendant several tries to contact.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Nine to one one to report the fire.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
He fled the scene in his car, but turned around
after passing fire engines, driving in the opposite direction to
fight there to fight the fire. While the Lockman fire burned,
the defendant walked up the same trail from earlier that
night to watch the fire and firefighters, using his iPhone
to take short videos of the scene. Although firefighters suppressed
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the blaze, the fire continued to smolder and burn underground
within the root structure of the dense vegetation. So that
fire started on January first, and it smoldered underground for
about a week until on January seventh, heavy winds caused
this underground fire to surface and spread above ground, causing
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what became known as the Palisades Fire.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, so you're listening to Bill a sale. You say, there,
you know, I'll give you a few more details. So
I got their statement that they put out online, So
during the interview, so this is during his interview with
law enforcement on January twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, so
this was not long after the fires. He lied about
where he was when he first saw the Lockman fire,
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so the fire that started on New Year's Eve that
they call that the Lockman fire. He claimed that he
was near the bottom of the hiking trail when he
first saw the fire and called nine to one, But
geolocation data from his iPhone carrier showed that he was
standing in a clearing thirty three thirty feet from the
fire that was rapidly growing, right, So that kind of
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pins him to the location. And certainly when you lie
to the police that obviously it gives you consciousness of
guilt and you're trying to avoid that. It does say
if convicted, this guy could face a mandatory minimum sentence
of five years in federal prison and or statutory maximum
of twenty years in prison. And the ATF did this
investigation with the assist of the obviously the fire services
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in LAPD. Now somebody I did get asked, you know,
would he face charges for the death, So they can
they can upgrade the charges on this if they want.
To and there is there's an interesting thing. So the
fire folks went out. La City fire went out, and
La County Fire went out, and they put this fire
out on New Year's Eve, right, And generally their practice,
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and I've seen them do it on dozens of brush fires,
is they'll monitor the area for a given period of
time to see if there's any smokes because they're under
they are aware of smoldering uh bushes and embers and
that it goes underground, and they'll monitor it and if
they believe that it's okay after a few days, they'll
they'll take their monitoring folks out of there. I have
a feeling after this fire, you know we're gonna we're
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gonna see some changes and procedures for those fire services
in wild land fire areas where where it's here in
high desert areas like we are in California, and when
you get these big wins like we do with the
Santa Anas that they're going to, you'll now project if
wins over a certain mount or you that you have
to go back to those areas where there's recent fires
and monitor them and put equipment there. So I have
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a feeling we'll see it changes in in how the
fire services response.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think they did it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I remember because I remember them talking about this and
that that was the little the likely origin and that
I've been waiting for this to drop ever since, because
they talked about this within a week after the Palisades fire,
that it was likely the fire that started on New
Year's Eve. And if you think about it, if you
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think about you know when you have a fire in
your fireplace and it kind of goes down a little
bit and you get the accordion kind of blower in
there and you use it, pump it in it just
the fire goes that's what they're talking about.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
That's exactly what they're talking about. Now.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
We had a big fire that rolled through my area
here and my Deaths area too. She was still talked,
is that's the Wolseley fire. And after that rolled through,
I went on some of the local hiking trails that
I hiked all the time, and there were a lot
of burning embers that were still going on. Now that
was a broad area and a lot of forested area,
so there was a lot of brush still burning, and
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the fire guys stayed in place for weeks weeks because
of that and I think we got a good rain
and that finally put a lot of it out and
so they could they could back off. So so thank
you to the ATF and the LAPDE and the Fire
Service for all.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
The work they did on that.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I think that's fantastic that we caught this guy. And
I'll be looking forward to following that case. And you know,
as indictment stopped, they put a full indictment down. I'll
bring it on and we'll read about that indictment. But
you know, I think we're ready for our guests. Our
guest is Tanya Aira and she is running for the
third Supervisorial District in La County. Largely her candidacy is
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largely born out of fire, out of these fires in
the Palisades and the confidence of county government and city
government for that matter, in handling it and the failure
of county government to listen to its constituents as it
talks about cleaning up after the fires. But let's bring
on Tanya, and she could tell you for herself. Hey, Tanya,
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how you doing, Hi?
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Chief doing well? Thank you? Thank you for having.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Me all right, so, hey, we're happy, right, we got
the guy who started the fire. At least that's a
step in the positive direction. We got to thank our
law enforce because you're a big law enforcement support and
fire support. You got to thank those guys for doing
their job right.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Absolutely, you know, it's better to it's better to take
as long as they've taken to make sure that they
did not get the wrong person and then having to
start over, because then if they got the wrong person
and the person who actually did it is out there watching,
that just gives them more opportunity to flee. I mean,
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this guy fled to what Florida he could have you know,
kept going across the pond. So yes, it's I'm very
grateful for it. It's a start, It's definitely, it's definitely
a start.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, you can find Tanya's website for a campaign. It's
at Tanya Tate t O N I A A R
E Y for the number four supervisor dot com. So
go to that website and you can catch alliver all
of our platform and make a donation too. So all right,
so your candioncy is born out of these fires, right,
(20:04):
you know what, Well, first tell us about yourself and
what brought you to run for supervisor.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Well, if I tell you about myself. We'll be here
probably for a few days.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Okay, abbreviated version.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Okay, I'll do abbreviated as I can, and I'll just
I'll keep it pertinent to where we are now and
how I got here recently. So you know, as you
were talking about the the when the fire came through,
and I live in an area where I'm fortunate that
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it was not the Palisades, but it was the Woozley
fire and the aftermath of the fire, watching and listening
to local government talk about not much because they weren't
doing much. Now I understand they're not firefighters, but if
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you're hired and hired people voting for you to lead
them and to be there and protect them and give
them communication, you need to be boots on the ground.
You know, the second you're able to because of a
reporter can stand in the middle of an inferno. There's
no reason why a supervisor, a governor, the mayor cannot
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be I'll give them benefit of a doubt, can't do
anything during but the next day to provide information and
bring information back. It's the number one thing is communication,
and there is no communication. There has been no communication,
so you know, after the fires, it's just you're seeing
how things are done. And then I live adjacent to
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a landfill and people have heard, you know, the debris
was going to the Calabasas Landfill and then the Sunshine
Canyon landfill, which is in Granada Hills area. To your guests,
this is not about Nimby, not in my backyard. It
is absolutely not that. Look, if the Calabasis Landfill was
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a Classified one landfill that could take and receive toxic
and hazardous materials, fine, not a problem. But it's a
Class three, which is a municipal landfill, which in simple
terms and late terms, it's the businesses around here, it's
the household items. A friend of mine, he's a contractor,
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and if he is dumping tires, they won't let him
dump a tire, But it's okay to dump the debris
from the landfill. Right. You can't tell me there isn't
toxic materials and hazardous materials in that so anyhow So,
when that happened, a group in the community was formed.
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It's called Protect Calabasis, and I quickly got wind of this.
I started getting involved, and as I was in it
more as I was participating more. My eyes became a
lot more open, as did my ears, because we were
calling out for our supervisor to have a conversation. Now,
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let me tell you on in Calabasas, on Agra Road,
you can look it up. There is a field office
for the supervisor. Okay, her name is out there, you know,
Supervisor Lindsay Horvath office. We called for her to speak
with her. We asked her to come and meet with us.
She never showed up. We went to our office, we
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knocked on her door, we started protesting out her door.
She did not show up. She failed to communicate with us.
And then when they were planning when the Board of
Supervisors was planning on where the debrio was going to
be taken, they knew about what they were going to
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vote on. I think it was at least a week
and a half two weeks out. They did not notify
the city of Calabasas until two days prior. Oh hey,
by the way, we're going to be voting on this,
so maybe you want to show up now. I was
unable to attend that meeting, but friends that were there
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I was told that they did not address the issue
until it was like five o'clock at night, and the
other supervisors were rude. They're just walking around. But I
did watch a clip of it. Now, Horvath, she's younger. Fine,
I have no problem with that. She's in politics. That's great.
But the number one thing that anybody should do is
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to respect their seniors, someone senior to them. And even
you're in a position such as supervisor, you respect your constituents. Now,
if you've ever seen the chambers, you know the chambers,
the desks, you know, they're kind of up here and
the floors here. And the constituents come to a podium,
and a constituent came up and he wanted to talk
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about the landfill. And he was older than her. I
don't know exactly how old, but if I were to
guess mid sixties. And she started to get very argumentative
with him, and then you start to see her puffer
chest kind of like this looking down. Now you're getting defensive.
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You're being rude to someone who's your senior. You're being
rude to someone you're constituent, who hired you or didn't
hire you. You have a conversation. When I saw that
display of authority, it was just it was appalling and
it was a catalyst because not to mention, there's so
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many things where the local government has failed. And I
just I put my foot down and I said, I
need to do something. What can I do? And a
friend just as I'm saying that, I'm out tied with
my dog. I'm walking my dog. There's a little park
near us, and I'm pacing. What can I do? What
can I do? Get a phone call for my friend?
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He says, you know, because he's friends with people in
the city of Calabasas. He says, I just got a
phone call. There's you know, you should run for assembly
because they asked me to run for assembly and I
can't do it. I think you should do it. And
I said, okay, yeah, maybe I sent a text message.
During the fires, I connected with a woman, Cec Woods,
(26:31):
who's an investigative reporter in Malibu. And this goes back
just a little bit. Remember you asked me to say
how I got here.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I can't. Yeah, that's fine, that's fine, right.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
So we were evacuated, but myself and a friend and
another neighbor we stayed back. Then the Calabasas fire started,
and this went right up to my friend's backyard. Good thing.
She likes pink. That's her favorite color. Because you know,
she got the fire retardant on her house. Her husband
wasn't so thrilled, but hey, it looked good for a minute.
That's how close it was. I get an alert on
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my phone. Something came through her newsfeed to me saying,
I have on good authority that Calabasis fire was arson.
I said, yes, it is, because I'm outside here with
my friend and our dogs and the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department.
That little park I just told you about how that
surrounded it was taped off. A guy was sitting in
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the middle. Can you send me pictures?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
I sent her pictures. And then from that we established
a relationship because then there were some other aspects happening,
and we kept in touch. You know, we got along
fairly well. She's a very strong woman, as I am too,
so we've got that in common. And time went on.
So now we get that phone call on my friend.
(27:46):
Assembly I go to the gym and I see a
guy there who I've seen at Starbucks right every morning
for years, and it's just kind of like, hey, what
up right? That's it. I started at a gym. My
first day there. He walks in and I said, aren't
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you Paul Scravano And he's like, I'm not sure. Is
that a good thing or a bad thing. I said,
it's a great thing. Started talking to him and I
told him what I'm doing. He said, no, you're running
for supervisor. I said, excuse me. Called Ceci. She said, yes,
this is a great idea. Let I have a friend,
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Let me call him. Let me speak to him. I said,
he say, no, Ceci, I'm fine with going for Assembly
because I'm not a politician. I don't have a background,
and it's a good entry position. She said, no, let
me make a phone call. She makes a phone call. Okay,
we're going to have lunch with somebody. That lunch didn't happen.
It ended up being a zoom call, and it was
with former sheriff Alexville Nueva and I live in an
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area where there's celebrities and stuff, and I'm not starstruck
by those people. I said, I'm going to be on
zoom with this guy. Because I didn't want to take
what Paul was saying. I didn't want to take what
Cec was saying. I didn't want to take about what
a friend was saying, let me take let me listen
to Alex. So I listened to Alex. I asked him
the questions and I said, okay, let me think about this.
(29:13):
We then we met for lunch. I asked the questions
and I said, you know what it's I couldn't sleep
that night because I realized that I am I'm meant
to be here. This is what I need to do,
and it comes from passion. It doesn't come from climbing
a political ladder. It doesn't come from oh I need
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to be like misauthority over here. It comes from passion
because when you're afraid to walk out your front door,
when you expect a leader to be there so you
can talk to them about hey, the landfill and they're
not there for you, and they don't show up, and
you see so many other things that has gone wrong
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with La County and specific specifically the third District. I said,
you know what, I'm going to do this and Ceci,
she said, I'm going to run your campaign. I said okay,
but we talked. She said, you commit to me, I
commit to you, and we're going to do this. And
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we've been doing this since April and so far, I
have to say it's a lot of work. It's a
lot of you know, mental exhaustion because you know, reading
things and getting up on everything. Right. So it's but
people have been gravitating towards me, people who have been
(30:37):
reaching out towards me. I want to know you, I
want to do this for you. And so in a nutshell,
that's how I got here.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, that doesn't happen. I mean, I've worked on some
campaigns before. To have people reaching out to you means
that they're really angry at Lindsay Horvath, and so they're
reaching out to you, and we're going to we're going
to get in some reasons why they might be angry.
But let's let's I think I got a clip of
the fire just to give people an idea of what
we were dealing with at the Palisades and Eaton Canyon.
Let's roll with that clip and then we'll can you
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roll that, Amanda.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
I just to say, I've never seen anything like this here.
I grew up in southern California. This is like nothing
we've ever seen. With multiple fires raging across the LA
region right now and here in Malibu, it's truly an
apocalyptic scene. We're on the Pacific Coast Highway right now,
where home after home after home beachfront properties are in
(31:29):
Gulfston flames. I am looking at a mansion right now,
a beach view mansion up in the hills, is just
basically exploded. And the reason we're separated from my crew
right now is because we had just gone a little
bit down the road and spoke something out and we
turned around and there was then a live wire that
had a power line had fallen and a live wire
(31:50):
was blocking the road, and now it's blocked first responders.
I mean, you know, the most important thing now is
that there are multiple fire trucks here that I'm looking
at a stalled and can't get through because this live
wire is downlocking the road.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, for our guys in the radio, you can't see it,
but it's apocalypsetic fires is what was going on at
the time. But yeah, you're right, the reporters out there,
and Lindsay Harborth wasn't out there. But I want to
roll into I know, I got another clip and this
is Calabasa's landfill. So let's will lay down this argument too.
Go ahead and roll with that one. This violence that
I've seen is disgusting.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
It's escalated now since the beginning of this incident.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
What we saw the first night was bad.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What we've seen that's the wrong one, Amanda. That's last
week's show. Do we have the clip for the Calabasas landfill?
Gotta be flexible when you're live, right, If we don't,
just say no and I'll move on and we don't. Okay,
how about the Lindsay Horvath one, just the forty five seconds,
(32:53):
if you got a chance to addit. That the Sunshine
Canyon landfall.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Here we go, that's where it hi.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, where local residents are demonstrating as we speak, to
demand that no toxic fire debris get dumped into that landfill.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
Yeah. The group of protesters carrying signs and shouting shut
it down outside that landfill tonight. The landfill is Class
three facility, which is not certified to hold toxic materials.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Obviously it's close to residences.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
So.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I can't hear you, Chief, you are I mute?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Here we go always to house as. That's a little better. Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
So there's there was an indication that both Sunshine Canyon,
which is also rated of three, as I understanding, and
ours Calabasas are rated three. That the material that it
couldn't take this material. However, Lindsey Horbet ignored that.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
And both of these.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Are in her district, right, I gotta frame this right,
Both of these are in her district. She had people
protesting on both on far ends of her district. And
people got to understand. There's two million people in her district.
LA County has ten million people. Each board of supervisors
has two million people that they service, and her area
is huge, and she is she is she's ignoring, she's
(34:15):
ignoring him, She's not she's not there, she won't talk
to him, and she she acquiesced. But I think people
need to understand why she acquiesced, because that's not being said.
The local government and the state government failed to protect
these communities. They passed regulations that made it harder to
mitigate fire risky. They did not have proper water set
(34:38):
for Palisades. This moved into Malibu, which is I got
to talk about that because it's her area. This Palisades
fire went into Malibu and burned down a bunch of
homes and businesses there as well. So this is definitely
Lindsay Horvos area, and she she acquiesced to everybody else
so that they can clean up the area quickly because
the pressure from the mayor's office, the pressure from the
(34:59):
governor's offic was we have to look like we're doing something,
and hauling all this debris up to Kern County more
than one hundred miles away wasn't in the playbook because
it didn't allow them to fix this problem quickly so
that they can actually start rebuilding as quickly as possible.
(35:20):
So they made a political I think they made a
political calculus. We're going to ignore the laws. We're going
to dump them locally so that we look like we're
getting something done today. That's what I think happened. That's
why she ignored you. That's why she ignored the community.
You can't agree with that, right, So.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
Just real quick that clip you played, if you were
to take away you know, Sunshine Canyon and put Calabassies,
it's the exact same image because we were out there
with our signs and you know, hollering and asking for
her to show up, and she wasn't there. So, you know,
doing my research on Supervisor Horrorvath and about the landfill
(35:59):
and distributing the debris. And this is from an interview
that she gave and I think I'm pretty sure is
that clip you just showed February twenty fourth, and I
quote so excuse me if I'm not looking at the camera,
because I want to read this show. It's meaning the
debris is being taken to places that are specifically licensed
(36:21):
to handle that debris. Many of those locations are far
outside La County. Those are her words. Okay, So is
it less expensive to haul debris from the Palisades to
Granada Hills, to Seem Valley to which is not in
her district, and to Calabasas. Absolutely, But what's going to
(36:43):
happen in three years and five years? People are going
to be sick? And what does she care? She lives
in West Hollywood and in ten years, what does she care?
Or what does everybody else care? Because they're not going
to be here. And I have to say, this is
another area where I'm very disappointed. I'm a huge supporter
of law enforcement, our military. But the US Army Colonel
(37:09):
of Engineering, Brian Schwasser, he agreed with this. He said,
let's take it to Calabasis. Let's take it there is it.
Will it cost more money to go to a class three? Absolutely?
Is it going to take more time? Absolutely? But in
ten years we may be doing this interview and I
(37:29):
may be sitting in a wheelchair and have an oxygen
tank or you may you know, the same thing, and
that's a tragedy. If gosh, I think it was the
beginning of this year. On Netflix, there's a show called
Toxic Town. Now this happened in the UK. You just
watched the first ten minutes. It's no different of what
was going on here. And Supervisor Horvath, she likes to say,
(37:57):
look here I am, I'm doing this, and we're gonna
make this and raw, raw, raw and everything else. So
she can say something. She's there, she does it, but
then she disappears because just like this, when when we
called for her, you know, we showed up to her
office in Calabasas and the staff said she's not available.
You can make an appointment in two weeks or so forth,
(38:20):
and she just is not available. I mean, if you
go to my Instagram, you know, someone said to me,
they said, wow, you sure do you know kind of
you know pin things on Horrorbath And I said, well,
everything I'm putting is factual, and I'm not saying horror
bath is this, or horror bath is that. It's based
(38:41):
upon news media. But let me bring this to your
attention and to the audience's attention. It's not on ABC News,
it's not on Fox LA News, it's not on CBS,
KKEL or anything. These are publications that are under the radar.
It's Campus Reform, it's west Side Current. And I'm not
(39:02):
I'm not like dogging any of these publications. But the
point is she does a very good job in making
sure that anything that happens are not on mainstream media.
So well, she's not me now.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
So yeah, well you're calling her out. You can you
ignore the community. We're gonna we're gonna make some noise,
and I'm going to run against you and I'm going
to force you into a situation where you have to
address it, which is really what we're talking about. But
we won't know the results of her decision today in
Calabasas or in Granada Hills with Sunshine Canyon till decades later.
The families that live in those areas that have to
(39:38):
deal with it, not her, because she'll be she'll be
out of that office. She'll be the either the mayor
or because she she's ambition. The difference between you and
her is yours is passion, her as ambition. There's a
difference there, right, there's a difference there.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Right.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
But I wanted to I wanted to get into some
of the other things. I mean, we could talk fire
for like four hours, I think on this stuff. But
and there are some failures on there, and we'll get
into a little more of these failures we have time
at Eaton Canyon. But I want to talk about her
lack of support for law enforcement as well. And I
think I have a let's see, let's let's roll with
(40:13):
a slide here. I got a side supports George Foro
Soros funded DA George Gascone.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Can you throw that up there?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
So this is from George Gascon's website when he ran
the last time, now more than sixty percent of the
people in La County didn't want him. And you can
see her name, Lindsey Horvath, Holly Mitchell, hild Us. At
least three members you can take it down now, of
the La County Board of Supervisors. Many members of the
are several members of the La City Council. But the public,
(40:41):
the polls that showed that everybody was against George Gascon,
who was who stopped prosecuting laws, who allowed the homelessness
thing to get out of control in La County. Who
we saw overdose deaths in La County skyrocket because of
George Gascon, and Lindsay Horvoth supported him. Now, when he
(41:04):
first ran, he had millions of dollars, and every single
Democrat came out of their wouldwork. They jettison Jackie Lacey
was a great da to jump on the bandwagon. George
guest going because he had a lot of money. Soros
was funding everything, and every Democrat supported him. His run
against Nathan Hofkman his re election, A lot of those
Democrats didn't support him, but Lindsay Horvoth did. Lindsay Horvath
(41:28):
supported this nonsense, the increasing crime, the defunding the police,
the bail reform where there is no bail. She supported
this nonsense, along with two other Democratic Socialists on the
La County Board of Supervisors and Democratic Socialists on the
La City Council. And I take that from Robert Lucero,
a modern Democrat who I interviewed last week who said
the Democratic Socialists had their chance, they failed, They're incompetent.
(41:52):
They need to be out of office. And she's a
Democratic Socialist. That's why she needs to be out office. Right,
So the mere fact that she supports this nut, George
gast Gone disqualifies her for another term.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Right. First of all, Jonathan Hatammy should be our DA
hands down. I mean, I remember when that election was
going on, and I don't really remember the name Hawkman.
I just remember everything was Somami Hatamy and it was
to Tommy for a very good reason. So how he
(42:23):
was not elected, I throw my hands up to that.
But we can keep throwing our hands up and our
arms are going to fall off. So as far as
law enforcement, you know, it's one can say. It's in
my blood. My father who's still with us, thank goodness.
He served in the US Army as MP. He was
stationed in Korea MP Military Police. If something happened, if
(42:49):
something happens to me right now, if somebody's busting down
my door, right, who am I calling? I'm calling the police.
I'm calling law enforcement. If you don't have law enforcement,
how do you have law and order? Without law and order,
you get the chaos that you see in the streets
of La So if anybody watches you know what's going
(43:14):
on here, you know you start watching. I don't think
I've ever seen La La County on national news as
much as I have in the last year or two.
It's local news shore northern California, sure, southern national news
all the time. I mean, it's all the time, and
(43:35):
it's it's just it's disgusting and one of those things.
And I love telling this story because it's true. You know,
my mom she's with us, you know as well, thank goodness.
And and she likes going to the mall, and I
do not like going to the mall. I'll go to Arii.
That's my name in my name in Marcus is Arii.
(43:56):
And she says, oh, I'm going to the mall and
on the weekend, and you know what, I don't have
any plans today. Let me go to them all with
you and we'll make a day of it. My mom
is petite. She drives a red car, and she's a
target and the fat and look, my mom is quite together,
trust me. She runs on that treadmill forty five minutes
(44:16):
every morning. She's there. She is all there, but she's
five foot something, five foot two, she is a target.
And to not be able to go to your local shops,
I mean you can, you might get mugged. Right, So
it's you need law enforcement. And anybody who says defund
(44:38):
law enforcement again, let's throw the hands up again. But
you know when Horvath came into office in twenty two, right,
she lives in West Hollywood, and the first thing she
did was she removed two deputies from West Hollywood Sheriff's
Department and she replaced them with I believe it was
(44:59):
thirty three unarmed security guards. They were ambassadors of the
night or something to that effect. And that first year,
crime went up. I don't have the exact number in
front of me. It was about one hundred and forty
eight percent, with about fifty five percent of those being
a class one crime. A class one crime you can
tell the audience better than I can. But you know
(45:22):
it's your just your common you know, burglaries or homicides
and the list goes on if I'm not mistaken, right,
So how do you do that, especially in the neighborhood
that you live in. Of anything, I'd be like, okay,
I want I want to be safer. Let's get more
law enforcement. And you can get more law enforcement, and
(45:45):
it's simple. Here's how the Board of supervisors. The last
fiscal year, their budget was something like forty five billion dollars. Okay,
So when the sheriff comes to you and says, here's
my wish list, here's what I need to make sure
that my deputies are safe. To make sure and if
(46:06):
my deputies are safe, they can keep you know, the
civilians safe and we can do our jobs. If we're
limited to our jobs, you're not going to be safe.
We're not going to be safe, and deputies end up dying.
It's the same thing with La County Fire Department. LA
fire chief comes in, here's my lease or my lease,
(46:28):
here's here's my list, and this is what I need
to keep a functioning, you know, fire department going. So
there's one of these homeless you know, spot fires or something.
If I have an engine at that fire and there's
a real fire, I'm okay because I know that I
have an engine that can actually cover that right now,
(46:49):
you can't. And it goes the same thing for a
Los Angeles Police department and you know, Los Angeles Fire
department So anybody who defunds public safety, I don't know
what they're thinking to be.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, I just I'll build on because I know the story.
So Lindsay Horvath in an agreement with the daughter of
the La Times, who was on her She was she
was on sabbatical for the summertime from Oxford in London,
and she needed to get her street creds and defund
the police crewds. And so she puts for defunding the
Sheriff's Department with a bunch of lies because I called
(47:25):
out her lives and she blocked me on Twitter. But
she she she got the defunding and went back to Oxford,
and Lindsay Harvroth got the she got the endorsement of
LA Times and became the next Board of supervisors. You know,
and I met Lindsay Horvash. She said she supported the
police until she was running for the Board of super
She said to me personally, I support the police.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
I support you well.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Then and then when she was running for office, she
cut she cut our budget.
Speaker 5 (47:50):
Well when she was running in two thousand and uh,
you know, when she was running she also said that
she's not anti Semitic. Well, well, it may of twenty
twenty four. Last year, when there were pro Hamas agitators
at UCLA, you know, campus and setting up camps and everything,
those agitators that were harassing, harassing Jewish students who were arrested,
(48:16):
she authored a bill and pushed it through for those
Harmas agitators supporters of Harmas to have legal aid in
addition to their public defenders. I don't know how else
you can.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Spell Jewish students.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
Oh yeah, this goes.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
This goes what I was saying earlier. She's very good
at saying, hey, look at me. You know, I'm here
to support this, and then the second she gets your support,
she turns her back on you and does completely other things.
And again, I'll say this again. If you go to
my Instagram, all the stories, all the posts, you see
there is what I'm talking about. I'm not making this
(49:01):
stuff up.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
And they can find your Instagram via your website, right,
So yeah, the bottom of the website and just hit
the Instagram. Okay, I got what I got. I think
I've got time for one more element that we need
to talk about. So recently, the Lli County Board of
Supervisors made in their Supreme Wisdom with Lindsay Horvat supporting this.
We passed Prop thirty six, the tough on laws, right
(49:24):
and she, she and the rest of these knuckleheads on
the border supervisors cut the new DA's budget by twenty
four million dollars. I you know, so this, this is
here's dumbing the nose at the at the voters who
passed Prop thirty six. I don't care what you say.
I'm going to defund the DA so he can't prosecute
those those crimes that you want prosecuted. This is who
(49:46):
Lindsay Harbot is. She's thumbing her nose at the community right.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
Well, and again it's like, we're not making this stuff up.
That is that was in the news. It's everywhere. You
can't make it up. Look if I was sitting here
and making everything up, it's like, okay, you know, you
don't have a you know, a ground to stand on
or anything. But this is how I've become passionate. This
is what drives me because I'm not doing this to
(50:14):
climb a political ladder. I'm not doing this to play
kate to a side. I'm doing this because I'm fed up.
I'm fed up of driving down the street sitting in
my car and there's a person, you know, coming towards
my car with like a stick or something that's going
to smash my car because they feel like that's what
they feel like doing, right, Because I mean, that's a
(50:35):
whole another rabbit hole we can go down maybe another time.
But you know, this is this is public safety. You
need public safety. I'll say it again, public safety. You
have law enforcement, you have law and order. You have
law and order, then you don't have the chaos that
is on the streets around us. It's that simple. It's
(50:57):
that it's that simple. Respect the badge, the badge was
you know, was created for a reason. And I do
also want to say one more thing. When I say
I support all of law enforcement, I also want to
include probation officers. Probation officers, they're like the dust under
(51:17):
the rug and they should be acknowledged because they're dealing
with another type of criminal that we're not privy of
seeing because they're juveniles. And just on that note, real quick,
Horvath is also fighting to push a juvenile age from
eighteen to twenty five. Yep, twenty five years old and
you're a juvenile twenty five years old. You should be
(51:38):
living on your own, out of home and everything else,
so you need law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
I was working the streets, right, work in the streets,
you know, twenty three, you know, so I mean I'm
a juvenile still and I'm working the streets.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Yeah, that's that idiotic. Well, their brains aren't fully formed
till they're twenty five, so we can't really punish them.
That's that, that's that leftist nons and that's coming out
of here. I just want to include that she's against
building a men's central jail. She wants to close it down.
So how do you put people in jail when you
shut down jails?
Speaker 2 (52:07):
Right?
Speaker 1 (52:07):
But hey, we got about a little less than two
minutes left, Tanya, so this is your time to make
a pitch for Tanya Air Ray for Border Supervisors.
Speaker 5 (52:15):
Well, I'll start with that. It's airy Harry, Okay, not
a Ray not But actually, you know what, it doesn't matter.
Just when you get to the ballot and it says
a R E Y and it's the white girl with dreadlocks,
that's me mark that box. No, but seriously, my fight
is for not just myself, it's for all of us.
(52:36):
It's for everyone in La County. It's for everyone in
the third district because enough is enough. It's I'm sick
and I'm tired of it. I'm sure there's millions of
other people that are sick and tired of it. But
you know what, However, six months ago, I decided to
pick up the sword and I'm not letting go of it.
I am all the way to the very end. If
(52:58):
we work as a team, we can win this in
the primaries and we get to work. I get to work.
I'm not going to stop when I get into office.
It's a lot of work. It's very demanding. I'm aware
of that. But you know what, I've lived my life
to the point where I am, and I've experienced so much.
(53:20):
I've traveled the world. I've seen this, I've seen everything
has brought me to where I am right now, and
that is to become your next Third County third District
Supervisor and anybody, if you have questions, you want to
get to know me more. I'm actually doing an event
in Mission Hill, San Fernando this Saturday from twelve thirty
(53:41):
to two thirty at the Bear Barbecue Pit. Come you
can meet me and Chief is going to be there
with me. It's just it's very casual. I'm serving lunch,
but you message me on my social media. I'm not
afraid to look. I'm very transparent.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
All Right, we got a wrap.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
We are live within the show, so stick around for
a quick debrief. You can catch go to Tanya our
array there or Supervisor ar ray A R. E Y
for number four supervisor dot com. Check out our website,
check out her instagram, and if you're in the area,
go to the baar ped I'll be there. You can
see a medi personality me. Anyways, Yeah, we are done
(54:27):
for the day. You can take this, take this, take
this show away, stick around for a minute.
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