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May 21, 2025 53 mins
New Jersey Interim United States Attorney, Alina Habba, has indicted a sitting member of Congress, LaMonica McIver, for assaulting a Federal Officer at a protest of the Delancey Hall Immigration Detention Facility. The May 9th protest devolved into a pushing and shoving match between protestors which included three members of Congress and the Mayor of Newark New Jersey Ras Baraka and Department of Homeland Security Officials.
Much of the confrontation was caught on body camera footage of the Officers involved which serves as the basis for the indictment. We will discuss this indictment on this epserves as the basis for the indictment. We will discuss this indictment on this episode of Briefing with the Chief. 

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Speaker 1 (00:36):
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And so today's show, I'm going to talk about the
congresswoman who was indicted by the DOJ. But before I

(02:22):
do that, I want to talk about a headline, and
it's a sad day. It's a sad headline. And if
Larry Krasner won his primary in primary challenge in Philadelphia,
which means they got another four years of that Soros
foind A had a very progressive prosecutor there. But let's
listen roll a video and see what the local news
says about it.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Good evening everyone. I'm Yuki Washington, and we are breaking
news into CBS Philadelphia and here on our live stream.
We are watching very closely today's Pennsylvania primary. The biggest
race is for District Attorney in Philadelphia, and come with
Larry Krasner is trying to win a third term, but
he's facing a challenge from former Judge Patrick Dugan. The
two Democrats have sparred over ideas on criminal justice reform

(03:07):
and public safety throughout the campaign. Let's take it look
at the results. The Associated Press is declaring right now
Krasner the winner with thirty four percent of the vote in.
Larry Krasner with sixty point five percent of the vote
totaling forty one, eight hundred and thirty nine thus far,
Pat Dugan thirty nine point five percent with twenty seven,

(03:30):
two hundred and sixty two votes cast for Dugan once
again thirty four percent of the vote in. But the
Associated Press is declaring Larry Krasner the winner of tonight's race.
Our Dan Snyder is following this race very closely as well.
He will join us live on CBS Philadelphia at eleven

(03:50):
o'clock and we certainly hope you will also, I'm yuck Washington.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yeah, it's a sad day for Philly there in Philadelphia
County in Pennsylvania that they re elected in the primary.
So I guess I got to explain this. So in LA,
we got rid of our Soros funded DA, but it's
a non partisan race, so everybody runs in the two
top vote getters go on to a runoff, and that's
what happened here. So Nathan Hawkman, they had a bunch

(04:17):
of challengers here in LA. But Nathan Hawkman went against
George Gascone and defeated him in the in in both
well both in the he was he won the primary
by a larger margin, but then he went on to
the runoff because it wasn't he had to get fifty
percent plus one here in LA to win. And then
Nathan Hawkman ended up beating the Soros fund of DA,

(04:38):
the Progressive DA here in La, George Gascone. And we've
we've had a lot of good, good positive news on
this progressive prosecutor movement in terms of elections. At Oakland
County got rid of THEIRS in a recall Bama Price
he was bounced out. Samcisco got rid of theirs just
about in a few years ago. He was bounced out
in a recall vote and moderate prosecute have replaced them.

(05:01):
Of course, the next biggest one is Cook County, Illinois.
They were going to replace Kim Fox with another far
left prosecutor, Clayton Harris, and UH judge on nil Ilean O'Neill.
Burke came off the appeals bench and ran against them
in the Democratic primary, and she wanted she went to

(05:21):
win in the general because places like Illinois and Philadelphia,
it's it's the Democratic primary that's that's really the race
because reblic Republicans are almost non existent in those places.
Now there is a there is a effort, and I
don't think it's going to get off the ground to
challenge Krasner in the general election. And it worked in

(05:44):
Alleghany County. So Alleghany County is has Pittsburgh in It's
the city of Pittsburgh. It's the next largest populated county
in Pennsylvania. So both these cities are both these counties
are in Pennsylvania. And what they did in Alleghany County
is when the moderate Democratic DA got beat in the

(06:06):
primary by the Soros funded Progressive candidate. The Republicans made
sure that in their primary they wrote in the Democratic
DA the guy who at the City of DA they
wrote his name in. So when the general came around,
he was qualified to run in the general as a Republican,
and the Republicans got behind him, and then of course

(06:27):
he had a base of Democratic support and he defeated
the Sorol's funded DA. So Alleghany County managed to avoid
having a Soros fund of DA. But Philadelphia County, it
seems like they can't get out of their own way.
And let me just read the headline from the Philadelphia
Inquirer see Philly DA A Larry Krasner defeats primary challenger
Patrick Dugan, positioning himself for a third term. Krasners is

(06:51):
well known, are well positioned to win the November general
election because no Republican has filed to run. And the judge,
you know, he's aware of the strategy that they use
in Alleghany County dog Dugan, and he's not going to participate.
So that is too bad for Philadelphia. It's just just
just a little more from the exam the article here

(07:13):
by the let's see the Philadelphia Inquirer and over the
last eight years, Philadelphians have seen a rate of shooting
and homicides soar to unthinkable heights. And this this has
happened in nearly every major city that had a Sorrows
funded or progressive prosecutor, and it's happening in Philadelphia. And

(07:34):
you've heard me on the show. I mean, these progressive
prosecutors have been a target of mine to try and
get out the truth and what's going on with these guys.
And the sad thing about Philadelphia is Krasner is one
of the leading leading names and voices in this progressive
prosecutor movement. But he's also a liar. He's done things

(07:55):
that you know, he's been sanctioned by the court, his
office has been And there was a case where they're
trying to get a somebody responsible multiple homicides out on parole.
They're trying to get him released, and he lied to
the judge. They said, we've had extensive contacts with the
loan surviving victim. So basically, he killed a bunch of

(08:16):
people in the house and he left an infant to die.
And I think it was in the middle of January
or February. They didn't have any heat in the house,
left the infidant to die in the house with that
infant survived the loan survivor. That's the victim that they
said they had extensive contacts with, and the judge found
out they did not have extensive contacts. They lied to
the judge. They also lied about the guy's background, said, oh,
he's been a model prisoner, hasn't done anything wrong. Well,

(08:38):
he tried to escape the courthouse and they had to
shoot him. They hid that from the judge. The judge
was rightfully pissed off and sanctioned Krassner's office. But this
is what Realia kras is all about. He was also
sanctioned by the appeals court. He had dieted a police officer.
I believe it was Ryan Ponnell. He dieted a policeolice officer.

(09:01):
Or he took the police officer's case to a grand
jury and got an indictment. Well, one of the things
that you're supposed to do in Pennsylvania when you're going
after a police officer, particularly if you take it to
a grand jury, is you have to buy statute lay
out the authority of the police officer has to use force.
And he didn't do that. He didn't do that. He

(09:21):
also didn't lay out the elements of the crimes that
he wanted them to go out and how they fit
with the facts and the Appeals Court their comments, and
I'm paraphrasing is there was a get the cop at
all cost kind of mentality out of Krasner's office. Now, remember,
these guys take an oath, an oath to uphold the Constitution,
and it cludes to Bill of Rights and the Bill

(09:43):
of Rights. You don't get to ignore the Bill of
Rights when it comes to police officers. But Larry Krasner did.
He violated his oath. He was sanctioned by the court.
They gave him a slap on the wrist. They should
have impeached him. They tried to impeach him, but the
Democrats in the Assembly wouldn't go along with it. And
I guess the Democrats in Philadelphia won another four years

(10:03):
of mayhem. Remember, if you've been watching my show, you
know that these progressive prosecutors have a direct correlation with
increased homicides in the cities that they're in. They have
a direct correlation to increased overdose deaths. We've talked about
increase and when they stop enforcing drug laws. And nearly

(10:23):
every single progressive prosecutor has done that because see, they
have a little playbook they work on. Remember Fair and
Just Prosecution. That did a show on that organization. They
write the playbook and expect these progressive prosecutors to follow
the playbook because Soro's funded funds their campaign any funds
Fair and Just Prosecution, right, and one of them is

(10:45):
you don't enforce drug laws. And they give a drug
dealer slaps on the wrists. And what that has caused
is an increase in overdose desks in every city that
they have these progressive prosecutors, every county that has these
progressive prosecutors, including Philadelphia County, including Los Angeles County, including
Cook County, Illinois. And apparently the people in Philadelphia did

(11:11):
not get the memo. Get that, you know, bounce that
bum out, Get somebody in there who's going to enforce
the law. Get a modern democrat in there. I'm okay
with that as long as they follow the law, you know.
I mean, I'm a Republican, but I'm okay as longest
we had a good prosecutor. Hear Ejaculacy, moderate democrat, black
female doing her job, doing a good job, fair followed

(11:33):
her oath, and they exchanged her for a whack job
George Gascone. But at least we got we got the
message elections matter. I guess in Philadelphia they didn't. Now
I will on that particular subject I'm going to I'm
gonna go on to my main issue. But I want
to encourage you to go back to today's show with

(11:54):
Search Warrn because they they go in depth on what
happened in Philadelphia and this election. They talk about corruption
going on in Philadelphia County, and they talk about a
lot about their frustration. They've been all over Krasner. For
the almost a year and a half that I've been
on my show, they have focused on Larry Krasner in Philadelphia,
and so I encourage you to go back and look

(12:15):
at the show Search Warrant if you're interested in that subject. Okay,
So I wanted to talk about what's going on in
New Jersey and the interim. The interim US Attorney has
filed charges against City Member of Congress Lamonica Iver for

(12:36):
assaulting a federal officer. And boy, this is long overdue.
This is long overdue. This is the kind of thing
that needs to happen, and it needs to happen to
send the message that assaulting police in the course and
scope of protesting or for political purpose is not acceptable.
I've talked on this show how I know we're going
to progress down a path where the left will say

(12:59):
assaulting the police is justified because they're the guard dogs
of the rich, because they're the people who are part
of the executive branch. They're the ones on the ground
that are enforcing Trump's mandates. So we get to assault them.
And that starts by calling them gestapo, calling them nasties,
calling them all these nasty names, to dehumanize law enforcement
so that it's okay to assault them. And so that's

(13:25):
why the prosecution of this this congresswoman is important. Let's
but you know, they also had they had arrested the
mayor of Newark, and they dropped the charges on that.
But let's start the story out with that one. Let's
show with the video of Ross Baraka charges dropped.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
We begin tonight with breaking news the US Attorney for
New Jersey dropping the charges against Newark Mayor Ros Baraka.
He was arrested outside the ice facility de Lady Hall
just ten days ago, during a visit with members of
the state's congressional delegation.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Was Attorney Elena Haba least the statement, saying that after
extensive consideration, the charges were dismissed for the sake of
quote moving forward. Meanwhile, Haba said she is charging congress
Woman Lamonica MacIvor with assault linked to the skirmish that
her out outside you see during Baraka's arrest. The congresswoman

(14:18):
responded to on social media, calling the charges purely political.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Immediately after Barako's arrest, mcgiver told pix eleven that she
was assaulted in the skirmish. Will bring you more as
a story continues to develop.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, and so here he is. So, you know, there's
a couple of things I like what's happening here with
the prosecution. We saw under Biden's DOJ that anybody anywhere
near January sixth, they were trying to prosecute anybody. They
violated their civil rights, they violated their constitution rights, and
some of those guys should have went to prison, and
they did go to prison. What I didn't like about

(14:55):
it is the failure of the DOJ and the FBI
to follow the Constitution and the Bill of rights. I
believe that they wholesale violated the rights of a lot
of those folks. Some of them, like I said, should
have gone to prison for their violence. But the methods
they used, how we do it is important. If we're
rules of a nation of laws, how we do it

(15:17):
is important, and they they ignored the rule of law,
I think for political purposes, and I think that's what's
going on here today. But what what came across in
a lot of the news reports is the Elena Aboba
I think is the name of the uh yeah, yeah,
Elena Ababa is the name of the interim US attorney

(15:37):
in Newark, New Jersey. Now, she was a defense attorney
for Trump, so she's a partisan Trump person. But she
had to sit down with ros Baraka and they talked
it out. And here's what I one of the things
I like about this because what I don't want to
see is the Trump Justice Department just going after everybody.
I don't want them to emulate what Biden did. I

(15:59):
want them to look at the facts, evaluate the facts.
And the things that have kind of leaked out about
Baracco's case is that he he had trespassed. He has
asked to leave several times he refused to leave, and
then he did leave, but they had kind of made
a decision to arrest him for trustpassing, but he had
already gotten past the gate, and then they arrested him.

(16:20):
And that's when all the congress people jumped in and
interfered with that arrest, and some more than others, which
is why I think this particular congresswoman is being prosecuted
whereas the other ones were not. But here's you know,
and I got to reinforce what I said about Ross Broka,
the mayor of Newark. Now he's collected connect he's connected
with Indivisible. I don't like his politics at all. I

(16:44):
think he's grand standing because he's running for governor. There's
nothing I like about him in terms of his politics.
I don't believe he's supportive of law enforcement. I think
he'll you know. But well, here's what I noticed. You know,
when he was arrested, he didn't he did in bad
mouth the federal authorities. He said they were wrong, but
he didn't bad mouth the individual officers. He didn't claim brutality,

(17:06):
he didn't claim any of that stuff. And when they
made the decision, we hey, you're under arrest. What I
saw in the video is he put his hands beyond
his back and he went to jail, right, And uh so,
you know I have to you know, I have to
give it to him instead of resisting. Who do you
know who I am? All that junk? He didn't do
any of that. He he went along with Park. Now
I think that was political on his part. He wanted
to get arrest, right because he ends up on TV.

(17:28):
I'm on TV. Look, I'm getting all this press and
people are people are going to vote for me. I'm
an anti trumper. This was this was by design. So
but you know, he didn't he got his press. He
didn't need to mix it up with the cops to
get what he needed out of it, right, and he
he and in the end the next day he said, ah,
they treated me with respect. They were okay. You know,

(17:49):
he didn't he didn't blast the cops, and so I
have to give it to them. Now that's not the
case for this congresswoman, and but it is it is
the case for him. Now, now let's talk about why
he was really there though, And he did this in
news reports. I'm there to do fire inspections because they
don't have a right to operate that facility in the
city of Newark because it's in the city of Newark

(18:12):
without proper inspection. And this is a scam that they're
doing all across the country, all of the Blue states
and Blue cities are using their own version of lawfare
to try and slow down the deportation of a lot
of these immigrants. Yeah, I'd love to be a fly
on the wall and hear them talk about their strategy

(18:33):
on why they're doing this. But this is what they're doing.
That's why he was there. And as I said in
the last week's show, not once in thirty eight years
did I ever see a mayor or a city councilman
show up on a fire inspection. It's usually a fire
inspector or a fire marshal. Now he had them there
with them, But this was grand standing on his part.

(18:53):
He got what he wanted, He got the big show.
He ended up on the news, but he he went
along with the program when the cops were taking to jail.
But you know he doesn't you know, he's not really
he's just anti Trump because you know what, he was
a mayor in twenty fourteen. Obama was using the same
facility for the same thing, deportation of people. He didn't
protest down there at that time. He didn't go down

(19:15):
there to expect the facility at that time. But he's
doing it now that Trump is in office, now that
a Republican is off, and now that he's running for governor.
He's doing it for political purposes. I got another video,
let's roll. Baraka does not believe in Trump's policies.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
Breaking news in New Jersey. The Newark Mayor, Ross Baraka
has been arrested following protests the ice facility there. I'm
Stephanie Liebergan in Washington, d C. And this is on
the scene. Baraka is a Democrat. He was arrested today
at a federal immigration detention center where he was protesting
its openings. We want to bring in National Scripts News
national correspondent Alex Miller, who has been following along with this.

(19:57):
So Alex, what exactly is happening on the ground there.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
It's all happening at Delaney Hall in Newark, New Jersey.
This detention center just opened in May May first.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
It is a.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
Thousand bed detention center and it opened in protests from
the mayor's office, from the ACLU, and today we have
seen the mayor be arrested at one of these protests.
Now leading up to today, he has been there protesting
this decision, his office releasing a statement earlier, not today,
in part saying that the the center should not have

(20:30):
opened because it didn't satisfy property requirements certain building codes.
But even if it had, according to the statement coming
out of their office previously, it said and an immigrant
detention center is not welcome here, said ICE's stated intention
is to round up criminals, and that it is a
desecration of people's rights and of the constitution. So clearly

(20:51):
the mayor's office did not want this attention facility to open,
and he was arrested today, as reported first by the
US attorney Aleena Haba, who was one of the attorneys
recently appointed by President Trump who also represented him in
multiple cases that we saw here in New York in
previous years. But it doesn't appear that the mayor is

(21:11):
the only protester there. There are a ton of protesters there,
reportedly including at least two members of Congress, including Member
Robert Menendez Junior and Bonnie Watson Coleman. They appear to
be there and according to the Department of Homeland Security,
they apparently broke through the gate and are holed up

(21:32):
inside the first security checkpoint guard office. I've reached out
to the Department of Homeland Security to ask if they
are still there. It's been about forty minutes since they
notified us that they were in that guard check so
unclear if they are still there, but as of just
before four pm, that is where these two members of
Congress were, and the Department of Homeland Security has released

(21:53):
a statement saying, in part that members of Congress storming
into a detention facility goes beyond a bizarre political stunt
and put the safety of our law enforcement agents and
detainees at risk. They say they're not above the law
and cannot break into these detention facilities, and that had
the members requested a tour, they would have facilitated the
tour of the facility, reiterating that this is indeed an

(22:16):
evolving situation. As you mentioned, this is not the first
day of protests that we have seen here, so we
are still going to be following this situation to find
out if, in fact, anything more happens with these members
of Congress and what happens with the mayor's arrest.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
Alex Miller, thank you for jumping on this story and
getting us caught up to date. I'm sure you'll continue
to keep an eye on it for us. Thank you
very much.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
So thank you for Script News for doing that. They
did a nice little recap. That's why I liked that one.
It's a little older, right after the arrest. But what
did they say. They said, the mayor's there to inspect.
He just make sure. But you know, even if they
got everything right, we still don't want it open. We
still don't want it open. So they're using lawfair to
suggest they're doing something wrong. But even if they got

(23:00):
it all right, we still don't want it open. So
it's really I don't agree with Trump's immigration policy, and no,
I'll keep in mind they said just open may first.
Now they're operating under a certificate that existed for twenty
years under Biden. They weren't importing to anybody, so obviously
the facility closed down for a period of time and
now it's been reactivated, so they mothballed the facility. I

(23:23):
got a mouffuled facility here in La County that I
managed when I was still working we kept a few
people in there to maintain the certificate, and as soon
as it opens back up again, we go right back
to the certificate or the rules that it operated under
from I think the nineteen seventies. So it's that's how
it works with detention facilities. So the Feds say they

(23:44):
have a valid or the center says they have a
valid certificate to operate from the Feds, and the city
says it doesn't. But it doesn't matter if they have
a valid certificate. Bracket doesn't want them there. So that's
what this is really about. It's not about them. They
got to follow the law. It's about I don't want
them to follow the law. I don't want them to
port anybody. Because here's the thing about these deportations that

(24:04):
are going on. All the rules that that Trump is following,
all the things that he's doing, all the due process
he's giving, these are the same laws that were used
under George W. Bush, used under Barack Obama, used under
Bill Clinton to deport people. All of these laws, all
of the due process that they say isn't sufficient. Now

(24:27):
that's what the AHO is saying, they're not getting enough
due process. It was all okay, under these previous presidents.
But it's not okay under Trumps. That's the hit, the
height of hypocrisy. If he didn't protest that facility, and
when he was first mayor in twenty fourteen, this is
ross Baraka. When Obama was president, then he doesn't have

(24:47):
any credibility in protesting it today because it isn't really
it isn't really even about the policies. It isn't really
about you know, following the law. It's about whether the
person has an R or a D after their name,
you know, because you know what, if he didn't promote,
if he didn't protest it under Obama, then you know what,
he's got no credibility. But that's but here's the thing

(25:09):
about Baraka. He did sit down with the US attorney
and I hear this is what I'm aware of that
has been reported that they decided to drop the charges
against him for trust passing and to move forward with
the City of Newark. And what I saw in the
video he says, okay, so he was trustpassing. They asked

(25:32):
him to leave, he refused to leave several times, then
he left it. Then they arrest him outside the gate.
So that makes for a little bit of a weak
case for trust passing. Now I have arrested people who
were doing civil disobedience. I won't tell the whole story,
but I tried to get filings on those guys because
I was working the streets and arrested them, but I
was actually a detective. And then I took the case
and I ran it up to the DA's office try

(25:53):
and get a filing, and I actually got a filing,
and then I took it to a judge and I
actually got a signature, and that DA the head dak
running down to the courthouse to grab it away from
me because I was going to go get a warrant
and then go arrest the guy who did something wrong
in this protest, but they decided they didn't want to
do it. So they're really touchy. The prosecutors are really
touchy about doing things that might cross over to that

(26:16):
First Amendment challenge, right They're really they're really, they're really
very sensitive about that, and so if they're going to
take a case forward, they want to make sure that
it's a solid case that they're going to win the case.
And I think when they decided not to file against
Ross Brokat, the mayor of Newark, New Jersey. They saw

(26:37):
that there was some weaknesses in the case, not that
he didn't not that he didn't obstruct, not that he
didn't trespass, but that there were some weaknesses in the case,
and they want a strong case. They're going to do
a strong case, which is why I think they filed
against a Lemonica mcgiver and not the other two congress people.

(26:57):
Let's talk about them first, you know, and then we'll
roll up will roll a video here in a minute.
But there were there were two other congress people there
are Bonnie Watson Coleman and Robert Menendez. They weren't charged.
And you know, when you when you watch the video,
and we'll get into watching the video, when you watch
the video, you kind of understand why they weren't charged

(27:20):
or that it's it goes right back to that, Well,
you want the strongest case because what you want to
do is send a message. What the US attorney is
sending a message. You don't get too obstruct and assault
police officers, federal officers just because you don't like the policies.
There's ways to handle that. That is through the ballot box,

(27:40):
that's protesting through your your your city, your your congress person,
or your city council. And depending on what it is,
there are there are ways to do it that are
legal and lawful. I mean, I was talking to somebody
about the whole Tesla thing and I was shocked that
they were okay with the fire bombing of Tesla. This
is my latest trip back on there's some people who

(28:01):
think that's okay. I think that person should go to
prison for twenty years. But there is there is acceptable
methods for protesting. There is acceptable civil disobedience. My problem
with civil disobedience is sometimes people forget where that line
is and assaulting police is crossing that line. That's that's

(28:22):
not acceptable. But they didn't file on Bonnie watching Coleman,
and didn't file on Robert Menendez because the video doesn't
support it, but it does support it. With Lemonica mcgiver,
let's let's let's let's roll with the video. Mcgiver charged.

(28:54):
Now just keep rolling with the video. But if you
see she's wearing a red blazer, that red blaze or
helps THEMD by that of my exactly what she was doing.
And she was pushing these guys and prodding these guys
and I thought I saw where she struck one of
the guys. Yeah, see that, that's uh. You put your

(29:47):
hands on me, you will pay. Remember, they have a
lawful authority to use that force, which is necessary to
carry out their duties. She doesn't. She doesn't have she
didn't have a right. And if you watch the videos,
and I've watched much of the the the bodycam footage
out and what you see with her, and it's easy

(30:08):
to follow what she's doing because she's wearing this red blazer.
She's like the red coats, right, you can see them anywhere,
so you could see what she's doing. She's got this
red blazer on. And there's a point in this struggle
where she's got her arms up and her elbows out.
I mean, if I was going to teach blocking to
a bunch of high school linemen on how to block,
that's a perfect She just needed to be a little

(30:29):
bit lower and she'd have the great technique. But she
was using that and she was pushing in the back
of one of the Homeland Security officers and I'm sorry,
that is assault on a police officer. And it wasn't
just a little push. She was driving her elbow into
this guy. So during the course of this, I also
saw her striking downward and it looked like she was

(30:51):
striking downward on one of the officers. I couldn't say
that one for sure. Now the other two, it looked
like Bonnie watching was holding on for life. It didn't
look like she was really pushing. She was obstructing, but yeah,
she wasn't really pushing. And same with Menendez. I didn't
quite see him pushing. I think their behavior was out
of line. I think their behavior should be they should

(31:12):
be censored in the in the House of Representatives for
the behavior. But I do believe La Monica mcguiver should
be charged. There's only one way you're going to stop
assaults on police officers, and that is arrest and people
who are assaulting police officers. And she assaulted these federal authorities,
so she should be She should be arrested for that,

(31:32):
and she should be prosecuted for that. And you know what,
Democrats should support that. Remember remember, oh my god, the
January sixth ers, they assaulted all these capitol police. Remember
that they were prosecuted to every anch of the law.
They were they were given no quarter. And what is
she saying, do you know who I am. You put

(31:56):
your hands on me, you will pay for this. That's
your attitude. It's okay for me to assault you because
I'm a member of Congress. Now, let's clarify a few
things here. Now they're saying, well, they were there for
a legitimate purpose to do inspection police. They were there
with a bunch of other protesters. They interfered with the
arrest of ros Baraka. They don't get to do that.

(32:18):
If you're there with other protesters, then you're not necessarily
there there there to legitimately do an inspection of that facility.
This is the narrative afterwards. This is why we were there, right,
and they could have called ahead of time. Most people
who do inspections on contentional facilities will give you some
lead time, some lead time. Now, if they're going to

(32:39):
do surprise inspections, of course they can't do a lot
of lead time, but a half hour hour and then
we can meet you at the gate and it can
be done peacefully. But they were there for political reasons.
They were there to pander with the crowd. They were
there to create a scene, and they created a scene,
and she went too far because she assaulted police. Officers,

(32:59):
and so he needs to be prosecuted. And here's the message.
Here's the message that Elena Hababa, the interim the interim
prosecutor DJ prosecutor in Newark is and here's the message
she's sending. You have a right to protest, but you
don't have a right to assault or impede police officers.

(33:20):
Because this is happening everywhere, this negative attitude towards ICE.
And you know, I love my brothers and sisters and
ICE in the Federal thirty and I feel bad for them,
but I know what you're going through because law enforcement
has endured this, this over the top anti police attitude
since twenty fourteen, since the Michael Brown hands up, don't

(33:41):
shoot lie and now it's being visited upon you guys.
And I remember Jump's first term. They called them jack
booted thug, to call them Nazis, called castappo, and they've
returned to that language. They returned to that language to
justify assaulting police. First you did human eyes, then it's

(34:02):
okay to assault. And that is what the Left is doing.
And that is what the Democrats are doing, and that's
what they need to be held accountable for. I think
let's let's pull up the headline. I said, we just
took the vat let's pull up the headline. DJ charges
democrat with clash with ice officers. Now, I did read
the comments and of Elena Ababa, and she made it

(34:25):
very clear. You know the comments. I said, it's not acceptable.
The charges include let's see what are they doing in
terms of charges, it's basically for assaulting, impeding, and interfering
with law enforcement. And she did do that. She she
did do that. And here's the other thing that's not
in the news reports, but that they talked about Ross

(34:47):
Brocka went and talked to them, right, He went and
talked to them, And they reached out to Lamonica mcvivor
to go and talk to them at DJ, and she refused.
She refused. Now, I suspect that lots of times these
das have a lot of latitude, whether it's a federal
DA or local DA. I suspect that had she shown up,

(35:10):
and this is I'm just theorizing here, I'm just spitballing
a little bit. Had she shown up and said, hey, listen,
we'll forget about this if you come out publicly and
say and apologize to the police officers and say that
finleance against police is not acceptable. I bet you had
she agreed to do something like that, there would be
no charges. But she wouldn't even talk to him. And
we heard HAWKEM. Jeffrey says, there's a red line if

(35:33):
you try to arrest anybody involved in that situation, you
try to censor them, that's a red line. For him,
you better not cross it. That's a red line. And
so they invite her, Hey, come on and talk to us,
and you know, I'm sure there would have been some
kind of compromise, just just you know, release a statement
saying that although you're there for legitimate purposes, things got
a little out of control and you regret your behavior.

(35:56):
And I bet you they wouldn't have prosecute her. I mean,
they wouldn't do that for any of the Jay sixers,
But I bet you had she sat down with them,
she would not be indicted today. But you know, if
you saw the police officer and you refuse to acknowledge
your behavior, the DJ has to do something. So I'm

(36:18):
really happy with this. I think this is long overdue,
and I appreciate the efforts of the DJ and protecting
these ice officers. They got a they got a tough
they got a tough job. Every every crying illeguliment who's
now getting deported. The news puts them on air every

(36:40):
time they try to make an arrest, and the news
meetings there they put video out or it doesn't matter,
it could just be somebody's cell phone video and it
ends up on the media, and ICE officials and DHS
officials are all characterized as evil and bad and mean.
They're doing a tough job. They need our support and

(37:01):
they need the support of the DOJ to do that job.
And I'm really glad that the DJ is stepping up
to support them. That's that's what has to happen. Pay
message to all these cities that I still got their
soro's funded DA's and still embracing this anti cop narrative.

(37:22):
Guess what Trump's giving you a blueprint and how it's
supposed to be done. Pam Bondi is given you a
blueprint and how it's supposed to be done. And here's
the thing. Here's the other thing. I like Pam Bondi
is consistent with with the DHS Secretary nomes, consistent with
what the interim the interim prosecutors saying there, everybody's on

(37:46):
the same page. This is unacceptable. We're going to prosecute
nobody's nobody's nobody's you know, nobody's worried, nobody's wringing their hands. No,
this is unacceptable. You're not going to do it. And
that's what you need. You need the entire administration behind
the men, the men and women who are enforcing the law.
That's what you need. When they make mistake, do what

(38:09):
you got to do. But they didn't make a mistake here,
and it's on video. Who did what? Now one of
those guys I saw striking anybody using pepper spray. Yeah,
they pushed people away. They were using their hands to
push people away. But they have the right to use
a legitimate force. Mcgivor doesn't. She doesn't have a right
to that. But let's listen to the video of the

(38:32):
interim interim a prosecute of there in New Jersey. See
what she has to say. It's Elena Ababa, Good.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Morning, good morning.

Speaker 7 (38:41):
I'm sure you've seen. President Trump has just put out
a statement that he has appointed me as the interim
US Attorney for the state of New Jersey, my home state.
As you know, I've stood by President Trump, his family,
the organization, and many other clients in that state where
I've been born and raised and I'm raising my babies now.
But there is corruption, there is injustice, and there is

(39:02):
a heavy amount of crime right in Corey Booker's backyard
and right under Governor Murphy, and that will stop. I
look forward to working with Pam Bondi, with the Department
of Justice and making sure that we further the President's
agenda of putting America first, cleaning up mess, and going
after the people that we should be going after, not
the people that are falsely accused. That will stop in

(39:22):
the great state of New Jersey starting now.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
And if you look at what happened.

Speaker 7 (39:26):
In crime, what's going on in Newark, what's going on
in Camden. This has been a neglected state. It is
one of the most populated states for its size, and
it needs to stop. We're going to do a bang
up job. I cannot wait. It's a great honor. Thank
you all, Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah. I just love that. You know, she's framing what
is important. What is important is the crime and the
violence on the streets. You know, she referenced going after
political We're we're not going to go after innocent people,
and we're not going to go after our political enemies.
We're going after the crooks. That's what we want to
go after. She referenced the fact that that she is

(40:02):
from New Jersey, that she's raising her family there. I
love that because it humanizes who these who these folks
are and in doing her job. You know, she didn't
say it, but it's it's pretty clear she understands that
you have to support the men and women in law
enforcement who are down in the trenches doing doing the
lord's work, doing the difficult work of taking people to jail,

(40:26):
and you have to prosecute those people who are you know,
she talked about corruption in Newark, New Jersey. You know,
there's so much coruption going on in New York right now,
and I what what what goes on in New York
goes on in New Jersey and there's corruption there. And
I'm glad to hear that she's she's she's going to
do this stuff. I hope she gets affirmed for it,
she's no longer interim and that she's permanent. I imagine

(40:47):
this arrest will make it a lot, a lot harder
for her when she goes for her confirmation hearing. And uh,
but I like her, and I like the fact that
the administration is getting buy it. But she did talk
a little bit about crime, right, she talked about what
is going on in Newark, New Jersey. And we got
a headline here Newark violent crime is up in twenty

(41:07):
twenty four despite decrease in murders, and that got the article.
And this is from the Law and Justice. This looks
like a journal from Newark official site. Domestic violence spikes
as what's causing. Now that's a toughy. Domestic violence is
a toughie. But here's the deal. People who commit crimes
like domestic violence, they commit other crimes. So if you're

(41:29):
soft on all these other crimes, guess what they're at home,
they hit their spouse or the girlfriend or their boyfriend whatever,
so other You know, when we talk about the broken
windows theory, the great thing about the broken windows theory
is a person who's going to commit a felony. If
you're going to if you're going to sock up your wife,
you're going to go to the bar and sock up
somebody there too, Right, So if you if you force

(41:51):
the law, or you're going to get in a road
right injures because you've got this anger issue in you, right,
you're going to get a road rage thing. You're going
to do things that bring your self to the attention
of cops law enforcement. But if law enforcement is handcuffed
and they can't take it to jail for those things
that you do in the public sphere, then violent crime

(42:12):
at home is likely to happen. So the progressive prosecutors
are the progressive prosecuting movement, which I'm glad I led
with that segment because it kind of plays in here.
If you're not going to enforce all of the laws,
you're going to see increases in crime elsewhere in the
crime stats, and I believe domestic violence is one of

(42:33):
them because one of the things about domestic violence is
drug and alcohol is a big part of that. And
if you're not enforcing drug and alcohol laws, which most
of the progressive prosecutors do not, then they're going to
be at home because by enforcing drug and alcohol laws,
you push them into a system of potential treatment if
things are worked right, wherever your jurisdiction at is at.

(42:55):
I know in LA we had some capacity to do that,
and you get them in the system and you get a
chance to fix them, right, You get a chance to
give them treatment. And I ran a treatment program within
the La County jail system and the guy swore by
it was drug and alcohol treatment. They swore by it,
and I was getting a lot of resistance and a

(43:19):
chief was coming. So this is before I was. Chief
was coming to visit, and I made sure that he
ended up in the yard with a bunch of guys
that were going through a drug and alcohol treatment program.
And because it was getting undercut by some other folks,
and he listened to their stories and then he supported it.
He expanded it in the La County jail systems. We
had like nine hundred people going through drug and alcohol treatment.

(43:39):
But you don't get them. And unless you make the
arresting get them into jail, they can't get the treatment.
And if we are not arresting people for drug and
alcohol stuff that can get them into the system, then
you lose the opportunity of catching them for a minor
crime before they get involved in domestic violence. Okay, I
went off a little bit of a domestic violence rant there,
but Newark was I saw a twenty three percent decrease

(44:01):
in murders in twenty twenty four and a nine percent
drop in non fatal shootings, but arise in domestic violence,
contributor to high overall violent crime. No, this is after
a big spiking crime after twenty twenty, so it's like, okay,
so if it goes up two hundred percent, it comes
down twenty four percent. You're making progress, but you're not
quite there yet. The city's thirty seven homicides in twenty

(44:23):
twenty four. We're eleven fewer than twenty twenty three. The
public Safety director, Emmanuel Miranda said, Newark hasn't had such
dramatic decrease since nineteen forties. But they don't give you,
they don't give you a benchmark of works that. They
just said, well, we didn't see this kind of drop
since nineteen forty. That doesn't mean the homicides are down
to the nineteen forties. So they're playing playing games with

(44:44):
statistics here. However, Newark has saw a three percent drop
in rape cases a ten percent uptick in robberies. That's
not good. Overall violent crime rose by nine percent, up
from one thousand, six hundred and sixty two eight hundred
nine and twenty twenty four. So they got problems in Newark,
they got problems in Newark. They I'm sure they have

(45:05):
corruption scams going on Newark and pay for play kind
of stuff going on Newark. I'm sure they got corruption
in their voting stuff, and we got Alna Hababa is
going to focus on that, hopefully after she gets through
this stuff. So this is this, this stuff is actually
really important that we focus on those that are assaulting

(45:29):
police officers and we we send a message, and this
is the right thing to do. It sends a message
to the entire country that assaulting police officers, including ice officials,
including those who don't agree with is not acceptable. Is
not acceptable. Now, you know, I got a couple of
shows coming up. I know I've been traveling a lot,
so I haven't had a lot of guests, and I

(45:50):
got a couple of shows coming up that I'm pretty
excited about that I wanted to talk about. And one
of them is I'm going to have Jennifer Shamansky back
from Texas and the Texas they have they have three
progressive prosecutors in Texas. One is Harris County, the other
one is in Bayhart County and I think that's uh.

(46:11):
And then another one is it's San anton Is Bahar
and then Austin is a freakate name of the county.
They're Travis County, so it's Travis County, Texas. And then
you got Harris County, Texas, which is basically a big
chunk of the city of Houston. And they got three
progressive prosecutors. Now I had I had the Soros or
the Harris County DA on Kim Oug she was a progressive,

(46:32):
but she wasn't progressive enough, so they ran somebody against her.
And now they got it even more progressive DA in
Harris County, Texas. But the state of Texas is taking
action against them. Their AG is taking action and they're
passing legislations to hem these guys in and to reduce
the zero bail that's occurring in those those counties and

(46:55):
to hold these guys accountable. And so we're going to
have Jennifer Schamann from Texas. She's going to be with
us in June, so you got to stay tuned, and
she's we're going to talk. She works for the Consolidated
Law Enforcement Association of Texas CLEETE. She's been on before,
and we're going to go over the legislative efforts to
hold these Soros fund of das accountable, to make sure

(47:17):
that they're doing their job, and to trim back the
influence of the progressor Ploshcutter's movement in Texas, which surprises me.
It's a red state, but three of their major cities
has have Soros fund of DA's that are taken down
the wrong path. Now the other show that I'm excited
about doing that I got scheduled for June as well

(47:38):
that I really think you need to stay tuned pored in.
It's a public policy issue that we want to address, and
that's qualified immunity. Now, qualified immunity is a protection that
executive employees. So when I say executive, I mean members
of the executive branch. So we're talking cops is the
big one that they focus on, but firefighters, teachers, people
who work on the road, department engineers that might be

(47:59):
working and first city or municipal government, even the federal government.
And it's a protection that has been put in place,
but basically by Supreme Court decisions. It's kind of acts
as a gatekeeper and what lawsuits will go forward against
the individual against the worker, the city worker, and what
criteria has to have met before you can sue them personally.

(48:21):
And around the country, progressives and the Progressive prosecutors movement
and the anti cop movement, they want to get rid
of this protection for cops only, and I think it's
important that we talk about that issue as a public
policy issue. So I have Adam Merengel. He's a counsel
for an association for deputy shiriff where the deputy shares

(48:44):
join and then he provides legal services for them. And
he's going to come on and we're going to talk
about it from a legal standpoint, but we're going to
talk about it from the public policy standpoint. Why is
it important that we have qualified immunity? You know, what
does it do for us as the citizens? And I
can tell you it really it protects And how does

(49:05):
it protect the officer, the teacher, the fireman and all
that stuff? And the fallacies of the argument of the
people who want to get rid of it, right, Why
it's bad, why it's wrong, And that's what I'm coming on.
And I have some folks who are running some charities
that are coming on in the near future. I just
got to line them up. I've been doing some traveling
and I made some contacts with some folks, both in

(49:26):
Nashville and I think the other one is Nebraska where
they do they do fundraisers for cops and soldiers. And
so I said, yeah, I was having a beer with
these guys, and these guys, I met these guys, and
I said, hey, we'll give me your business card. So
I got to line them up. I got to line
them up and bring them on my show, and that'll
be Those will be some good shows. And I'm going

(49:48):
to probably have to revisit the whole We had another
depth shaff kill himself here in LA. That's thirteen in
two years. It's huge, and so I'm going to have
to revisit that. I know we've had Danny Koonan before
we talked about police suicides. But I'm gonna have to
revisit that subject soon. I have to try and go
from another angle so that because clearly it's not working.

(50:10):
Clearly it's not working. And we also had a police officer.
Yeah they're oh yeah, let me remind you guys. I
detective in a you know, in a few minutes is
going to do a show about officer suicides. I'm not.
They're going to have a couple of people that I
know on as guests, and so I would encourage to
stick around and listen to that. So watch Eye Detective
Wednesday night at six pm Eastern standtime, following briefly the

(50:32):
chief because they're going to address this as well, and
I've addressed it twice. And one of the other things
that I think I need to address is a public
policy issue, is the shortage of cops. We had a
dip Ash shriff twenty one years old died driving home
from work after work in a sixteen hour shift. And
what's happening on the Los Angeles County Sheriff's apartment. I'm
sure it's happening all across the country.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Now.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
If you're thinking about suicide, text nine eight eight and
get some help. It's twenty four hour line. Just text
and get some help in Canada to the US. But
what happened with this dep He's working sixteen hours a
day and he fell asleep and he'd got in a
crash and he's passed away. But what's happening in LA
is these guys are working one hundred extra hours a month.
So if you think about that's three extra shifts a week.

(51:15):
So you're doing your forty and you've got to do
another twenty four hours at sixty four hours because of
the shortage of personnel because of the anti cop where
they defunded the cops, they stop hiring and that has
cost us to have a shortage. And this is happening
all the country, all across the country, all across the country,
where people are fatigued, and it manifests itself not only

(51:38):
in people dying of car accidents, but also fatigue is
one of the biggest indicators, one of the biggest indicators
of suicide. It's one of those precursors for suicide. So yeah,
so that's where we're at today. Let's see what I
just want to encourage you guys again to thank you

(51:59):
for joining us here. I'm briefing with the chief and
and make sure you turn in next week. I got
a couple of minutes to go here, I said, I ran,
I ran out of stuff to talk about it. But
my primary subject again can you imagine that? But I
am working on getting some more guests down the road.
I hope to bring Florian Sunka back. I was just
checking out his uh his his uh digital periodical today.

(52:22):
Just if I can't bring him back, and I want
to bring back Wayne our Kurt, let's see Kurt Walter
Walter Kurt. I want to bring him back and talk
about his lawfare journal. These guys got this Lawfair list
of all the stuff that I talked about at the
top of the show. I want to bring him back
to but I got to do the leg work to
get that done in between all the travel that I've

(52:43):
been doing. And uh so, stick with us again, thank
you for joining here on briefing with the Chief and Amanda.
I think we are just about there. I think you
could take it away.
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