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October 15, 2025 54 mins
On today’s show, I will be joined by Roxanne Hoge the Chair of the Los Angeles County Republican Party. Los Angeles County has a population of 10 million residents. It is critical for the Democrats to keep its stranglehold on California. We will discuss the shifting politics of Los Angeles County, the redistricting Proposition 50, homelessness, supporting Law Enforcement and much more… 
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Speaker 1 (00:51):
Good afternoon. This is briefly the Chief. I'm your host,
Patrick Jordan here on kJ dB dot com. That is
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(01:12):
to the YouTube page and just look for Briefing with
the Chief and you can find my shows there as well.
We just got to watch what we say no dirty
words on YouTube, otherwise they kick you off. Although it's
changed a little bit now that Trump won a lawsuit
against YouTube, which is a good thing, so maybe they
are a little less restrictive on conservative issues and things
I like to talk about, because I do talk about
things that aren't bad things, but they're good public policies

(01:33):
and things to talk about, and that's people overdose sedats,
things like that. But YouTube used to get really tricky
about that, but I think that's changed a little bit now.
Today I titled this show red Wave in LA with
a question mark, and we're going to bring on the
chair of the Republican Party in Los Angeles County. Let
me explain. Los Angeles County has ten million residents. The
chair being the chair of the republic Party in LA

(01:55):
County is very important for the state of California and
it has national significances well. And we're going to find
out what is going on with the Republicans in LA County.
Are they making traction? We'll they'll be changed. We'll be
talking about some of the stuff that's going on here
in LA and California. But before I do that, as
you know, I always do a lead segment, and there's
always so much to talk about, and I got to
talk about Letitia James first, and let's let's roll with

(02:17):
the video of regarding Letitia, I.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Do want to discuss some breaking news right now as
we are learning here into our newsroom that a Grand
jewelry has indicted New York Attorney General Letitia James on
potential around alleged fraud and dined on fraud charge in
the latest case against Trump foe. This according to an
Associated Press source. Of the contents of the diamonds still

(02:43):
not unsealed as of Thursday afternoon, and James and then
under investigation since May over twenty twenty three mortgage she
took out to help a niece buy a home in Norfolk, Virginia.
Of course, this is also coming in the same district,
in the Eastern District of Virginia that we saw earlier.
Within the last several weeks, James Comy get indicted as

(03:04):
the US attorney there, Lindsay Halligan. She is now in
that position after under pressure by Trump to bring charges
against Comy and James. Eric Seibert resigned was replaced by
the US attorney, a former personal attorney to Trump, Lindsay Halligan.
So the charges obviously come as Trump continues to call
for his enemies to be prosecuted in court from behind.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Director that you know what, So as Trump's calling for
his enemies to process. This is why I wanted to
talk about this now. There's a report out of the
Philadelphia Fed that talks about how important it is to
prevent people from using the owner occupied mortgage benefit for

(03:46):
buying rental property. And that's what Latitia James accused of doing.
I read her indictment. I'll let's walk let's walk through
this so that everybody understands. So back in two thousand
and seven, two thousand and eight what we had we
had a lot of mortgage scam, mortgage fraud. It was widespread,
and we sold those mortgage backed securities to investment groups

(04:06):
and you know we had you know, they were double
A backed securities. And there's a reason why an owner
occupated occupied house is a safe, safe investment for somebody
who's buying those mortgages. You know, you know what that
is is because the person living there has to live somewhere,
that's right, and when the market goes down, they still
got to live somewhere. Right. However, if you're using the

(04:28):
owner occupied mortgage back security to buy rental property, which
is what Latissia James did, it is not as safe
for the person lending to you or the person buying
those loans after the fact in the secondary market, because
this is what happens. Market goes down, you're upside down
in that house and you take a calculator as well,

(04:50):
it's just a rental. I'm gonna let it go because
you don't have to live in it. You already got
a house somewhere else. So it isn't as safe as
the owner I caipied house, which is why we have
those rules. If you buy it as a renter, you'll
pay a little bit more money because there's risk behind it.
That little bit more money goes into a risk pool

(05:12):
by the bank and everybody else so that they can
handle that mortgage failure, that default when it happens. This
is a study done by the Philadelphia Philadelphia Fed says,
why why we have to prosecute or hold people accountable
for violating these rules? Now, it wasn't that long ago
two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight that we

(05:33):
went through this housing bubble. That's the other thing it does.
It creates a housing bubble, and so first time home
buyers have difficulty buying a house, or they have to
buy it for a lot more money, which makes it
a little riskier for them too, because they're on mortgage
on margin to buy the house. So this is why,
Letitia James, from a practical standpoint, why you have to
enforce owner occupied mortgage laws. It benefits everybody. When we

(06:00):
don't enforce it, then you get widespread corruption and you
put a great deal risk in the housing market, which
is not good for anybody. It's not good for our country,
it's not good for the average American And Leticia James
as an attorney General for the State of New York.
As the attorney general for the State of New York,
should know that. Now. The second reason why Leticia James
needs to be prosecuted is, you know, she is the

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chief law enforcement officer of New York. Now, I retired
as a chief, and I knew early on as a
deputy sheriff, sergeant, lieutenant, whatever, going up the ranks that
if I ever did something wrong, it would likely end
up in the paper. I would likely be prosecuted and
I would be made an example of. Because I'm a
person who enforces the law, and when I violate it,

(06:42):
I'm going to be made an example of. The prosecutors
know this. DA's know this. Police officers know that even
though I'm in retirement, because I'm a former chief, if
I violate the law, they will still use me as
an example and prosecute me to a greater degree than
they would prosecute other folks. So, so there's two reasons

(07:03):
why Letitia James, it has nothing to do with do
with Trump, needs to be prosecuted. She knowingly violated the
law as a chief law enforcement officer in the state
of New York. So she needs to be prosecuted for
that reason. And two the very practical problem of fraud
and abuse and the owner occupied mortgage benefit. When when

(07:26):
we when we when we don't prosecute for those frauds,
we create a bubble, We create an unstable housing market.
The second reason why she needs to be prosecuted is
that reason. So this is this isn't about Trump. This
is about practical reasons. So when you hear your friends,
some friends saying how Trump is going after Letitia James,
keep this this advice in mind, keep this conversation in mind.

(07:46):
Remember what I just said, there are practical reasons for
going after Letitia James. Now keep keep mind Leticia James,
she she ran to go after Trump, so she didn't
even have a crime. Oh, I got to add this
because it's the other thing. It wasn't even Trump's dj
that found violation. It was some forensic attorney, some gadfly
who decided to look at Letitia james finances who found
this and brought it to the DA. So it wasn't

(08:08):
even Trump saying well, let's go see what we can
find in Letitia James' background and prosecutor for it. Because
that's what she did to Trump. Trump didn't even do that.
The DJ didn't do that. So this this drama that
the news is saying Trump going after his political enemies,
keep in mind she needs to be going after. We
need to take her out. She needs to be prosecuted
for very practical reasons, for both because of a statue

(08:30):
of her or position and also because of the unstabil
instability of the housing market if we don't prosecute people
who do this kind of fraud. Now, the second issue
I want to talk about is La County declares an
emergency because of ice rays outrageous. Let's roll with that
video and.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I'm welcome back everyone here too.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Well.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Live now from Boxing your host Mike Pagias, we continue
to bring you some of the day's biggest stop stories
and headlines are. The next story takes us out to
La and La County today voting to declare a state
of emergency that gives them power to provide assistance for
residents they say have suffered financially from ongoing federal immigration rates.

(09:11):
The move allows the La County Board of Supervisors to
provide rent relief for tenants who have fallen behind as
a result of the crackdown on immigrants. The immigration raids
that ramped up over the summer have spread fearing immigrant communities,
prompting many to limit their outings. Federal agents have rounded

(09:31):
up immigrants without legal status to be in the US
from home depots, car washes, bus stops, and farms. Some
US citizens have also been detained. The local state of
emergency can also funnel state money for legal aid and
other services. So it was just a matter of time though,

(09:53):
before an ICE representative would respond to this, And we
do have the statement that we want to bring to
you here on Live Now from Fox to Fox News
is Bill Mallusion putting this out. This is an ICE
statement to Fox News from the ICE spokesperson, and here
it is. The only state of emergency is the one

(10:15):
the residents of Los Angeles face after electing officials who
give a middle finger to the law. Perhaps the board
should supervise funds to support law abiding fire victims who
still haven't recovered instead of criminal illegal aliens seeking refuge
in their sanctuary city. While they publicly fearmonger, I would

(10:37):
be shocked if they didn't agree with ICE removing a
child rapist from their neighborhood. So that is the response
from ICE, and we will wait and see what some
other responses are from this big move from LA County
that will be trying to help those that feel they

(10:59):
don't want to leave their homes because of the ongoing
ice raids. And they were saying that is hurting businesses
in the LA area.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Again outrageous. You know, here's the thing. You know, the
state does allow some working with ICE, you know, to
get rid of the worst of the worst in the state.
And that was negotiated by Jim McDonald when he was
the sheriff, and they stopped working in La County. They
stopped working with ICE altogether. So some counties still work
with ICE to some degree. And here's the thing I

(11:31):
said early on, let us in your jails, let us
in your prisons. That will reduce the number of raids
we do in the community. However, we have to do
raising the community. We're cashing a wide net and everybody goes,
not just the criminals, just anybody here illegally. They said
that they warned about it, and LA has refused to
work with them every step of the way. So they
create the crisis by not working with ICE. I mean,

(11:52):
that's a big part of this. They're helping to create
the crisis with the sanctuary city policies in the county
and the city of Los Angeles. Now they're saying, well,
we got a declare emergency. Because what that does is
it frees up county funds that were set aside for
other things to help fund what they decide of the
new priorities because of the ice raids, So if they're
going to pay rent or housing for these folks, they

(12:13):
probably provide food because they won't go to work becau
they're afraid of getting arrested by ice. To me, that's
outrageous because you know, as I said, you know what
about the fire victims, what about your other residents who
are dealing with challenges in life. You're going to fund
keeping the illegal immigrants safe in your in your county
and your city, and you're going to prioritize them over
your citizens. This is this is just outrageous. But here's

(12:35):
the other thing. It technically frees up state funds and
you can apply for federal funds. Now, imagine the Trumpet
administration will knock that down, but the strait will probably
go along with it. So part of this is political
theater on their part, you know. But also this is
outrageous because it really puts the law breaker ahead of
the honest citizen, the hard working Angelino who's just doing

(12:58):
their job and by by the law. So to me,
this is outrageous. But this is this is this is
the left that we have on our city council and
on our re Board of Supervisors doing this. A shout
out to Katherin Barger, the only Republican on the La
County Board of Supervisors. She voted against us. So I
don't want to lumper in with everybody else, but this
is outrageous. This is a sad day for La County.

(13:19):
This is why we need change. This why I mean,
we need a big red wave in La County. And
let's bring on our nest ghost guests and let's talk
about the possibility of the big red wagon wave. And
this is Roxanne Hog from the La Republican So it's
La County Republican Party, right, is that what?

Speaker 5 (13:38):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
We are the largest county Republican party in the entire
United States of America.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, I gave you the that plug early on. Most
people don't understand when I do my show because it's
a national show, so we hit in overseas. Two when
I try to explain every time I talk about LA
County that it is a critical part in winning elections,
and you know, let's talk a little. I want to
ask you your opinion on some of the stuff I
led with, but I do want to bring up something.
I've lived in La County for over forty years, right,

(14:07):
I moved here in eighty one, and I always felt
when I first moved here from the Midwest, very blue
city of blue state Detroit, that you know, La County
was always moderate for a long time. You know, we
had very conservative south of US, and then we had
very liberal north of US, and it was like LA
County kind of kept the state anchored. But it has

(14:27):
shifted left in the last fifteen years. And I know
you're fighting a good fight, but it is really to me,
it's the state is going in the wrong direction, and
we got to get La County back to get the
state back, right, I mean, I mean, do you see
it that way?

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Absolutely, It's like Willie Sutton, he robbed banks because that's
where the money is. Well, politicians should spend a lot
more time, especially if they're conservative and money in LA
County because that's where the votes are. There's over one
million registered Republicans here in LA County again, and LA
has ten million residents, so about six and a half

(15:02):
million registered voters. But we have the critical mass to
flip elections even if LA County doesn't know it doesn't
go red. And I appreciate your positivity and enthusiasm, but
I have to live in reality. Even though I'm an
actor and therefore totally delusional by trade, the fact is
that to win statewide, you only have to lose LA

(15:26):
County by less. I mean, we've been getting blown out
here because no one bothers to campaign here. And I'm
hoping what we see next year is statewide candidates understanding
that mass lose La by under twenty five points and
win the rest of the state depending on turnout, and
you can win statewide.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, And that makes sense to me. You know, I'm
a political science major too. I love politics, and I
do my show because I'm frustrated with the direction that
we've gone here in the state, in the attack on
law enforcement, which we'll get into in a little bit.
Let's talk a little bit about my lead. So you
heard my lead on James. Right. You know when when
when you got a chief law enforcemententster violating law, it

(16:08):
doesn't matter the party, they're going to be made an
example of, right, And the media is not covering that,
And so that bothers me any thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
I actually the thought immediately of the old adage which
actually links your opening segment to what's going on the
LA County Board of Supervisors. Right, people point out no
one ever washes a rental car. Well, no one ever
takes care of a country they break into. Let's not
forget I'm a legal immigrant. My family fled democratic socialism

(16:40):
when it was being dallied about in Jamaica. And those
of us who come here legally, who bust our butts?
I was a kid, but I remember standing in the
line at the embassy, just an overwhelming crush of people
to present ourselves in order to escape what was a
little a little murderish.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
In my home country.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
And we don't appreciate people who didn't bother to do
that being rewarded for jumping the line.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, and I agree, And that's a lot of migrants
say that right all the time. Right, Hey, just follow
the rules, and you're right. It's because I always say,
you know, I understand what people are saying about the
migrants are coming here for economic purposes. But here's the deal.
If they're okay with violating the basic immigration laws, well
what laws? What other laws are they okay with violating?

(17:30):
You know, you get on the slippery slope, right, and
so just getting somebody to violate or to adhere to
our migration laws on the front end tells you something
about them, right.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Well, then, even if their circumstances were desperate, Like let's look,
I have four kids, they're adults now, but we live
near not too far from Disneyland. I love Disneyland. It
got really expensive. It's a beautiful place. Every kid should
get to be there. If I jump the fence at Disneyland,

(18:01):
and you know, take a ladder so my kids can
hop over the fence, do they a let me stay
in Disneyland for the day or do they give me
a lifetime past so I can come and go as
I please?

Speaker 5 (18:14):
They do not. I know Bob Biger. I like Bob Biger.
He ain't letting that happen.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
There's no pathway to home ownership for people who break
into your house. There should be no pathway to citizenship
for people who break into your country.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
End of story.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, great, great analogy, and I really so obviously you've
been through these questions before. So great analogy. And I
do appreciate you coming to us from your car. Yeah,
we've done interviews, if we've done the interviews with people
in cars before, so it's okay. You know, I want
to get the cast on.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
This is the state of La County. It's over forty
six hundred square miles. I live what feelds like the
center of LA had to drive an hour and a
half to down Ey to day to do a podcast with.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
The former mayor there, who I love.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Hit up Fox News Digital in between, and now I'm
outside a lovely establishment that self beverages so that I
can have my lunch.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
And talk to you.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Well, I'm so happy you joined the chief. You know,
I'm briefing with the chief. So hey, let's let's get
into this. LA County calls an emergency or so basically,
when they declare an emergency, you heard me on the
front end, it freeze up money so that they can
do whatever they want to do with the money. But
they created this by not working with ice. Right, if
it just worked with ice, it wouldn't be as bad

(19:32):
as it is. Right.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Well, I keep telling people being a conservative in La
County is like playing remember whack a mole at festivals
and fairs. The left never stops. And by the way,
that's a lesson that the right should learn because we go, okay, well,
we tried our damnness to get voter i D.

Speaker 5 (19:52):
Never mind, we'll see you later. Nope, you keep doing it.
That's what Carl DeMaio is doing with the entire voter
i D movement. People go, oh, you haven't solved all
the problems with this.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
No, we take incremental changes and we move down the field.
That's how football works, and that's how we're gonna save
our country because La County is the engine that will
drive change in California and help the entire.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Rest of the United States.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
So, yes, they declared an emergency, but as I call them,
the ladies of the view, because for shrewish harpies and
then one sane one, they never miss an opportunity to
be like arsonists who say.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Oh my gosh, now there's a fire, what should we do?

Speaker 4 (20:35):
They created this problem when they set up sanctuary city
and sanctuary state and sanctuary county status, it was never
to protects out getting a latto premus. No, it is
purely for felonious criminal aliens. And if you don't understand that,
but see, that's the problem conservatives have and that's how

(20:57):
I ended up as chairman of LAGOP.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
I'm a storyteller. Our battle.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah, there's some political science mixed in, but we have
to win the narrative battle. And we lose on that
when we let people call things sanctuary policies.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
They're not sanctuary. They're pro criminal.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, they're they're yeah. Well even you heard my I
led with two segments and you heard the even those
newscasters are going down the you know this is Trump targetings, man.
It just and it's constant with you. This is one
of the reasons why I do my show. I try
to You heard me explain that the importance of going
after Letitia James from a policy standpoint, which they won't do.
They won't do it, and we have to do that.

(21:39):
And I call myself a public policy nerd because I
explain it right, that's the and it's the right thing
to do.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
So here's your Duncan hunter.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
The younger Yes, Republicans were like, see yea bye bye,
you broke the rules.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
The left doesn't do that.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
No. Yeah, you look at this guy in Virginia. You
know they said he wanted to as opponent and his
kids and they haven't. They haven't, you know, you know
they haven't. They still endorse them. It's it's lunacy. I
guess I did some shows on Virginia as well, because
I do national shows stuff nationally. But you know, the
most important thing going on in California today in terms

(22:17):
of politics is I think you got to sign there, right,
that's no on fifty. Right, see no on Prop fifty.
I think I got a headline. Let's throw that headline
up there, right, see vote no. And I think this
is directly from your website. It's the La gop. Is
it dot com or it's dot.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
Org dot because dot com first?

Speaker 1 (22:41):
So there? Okay, yeah, okay, tell us how this is going.
How's it going with no on Prop fifty in Los
Angeles and in California? How are we doing well?

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Just in terms of the sentiment of people, it's sort
of a fifty to fifty split when you explain what
it is, which is a complete just discarding of the
Independent Citizens Redistricting Commission. The numbers go up to like
seventy percent on our side to say no on fifty.
But because one party rule has allowed the Democrats to

(23:15):
hold really important offices that no one fays attention to,
like Attorney General who writes the title. In summary, there's
definitely some wobbly stuff there. So my message is pretty simple,
vote no on fifty. Vote no on fifty now, and
let's let's just get out the vote, because they're saying

(23:36):
their entire pitch is that this is about Donald Trump.
The man is termed out in twenty twenty eight, he
has two years left on his term. And they're low
information voters. And I don't mean that. I don't mean
to be disparaging normal people. I would like to be
a low information voter. I would like to not know

(23:56):
everything about everything on the ballot at any point in time.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
But here we are, and so people with normal lives
just here.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
Oh, if I vote yes, I'm fifty, then Trump won't
be president. I wish I were joking, but that's legitimately
what I hear coming back from people on the left
so no, you can't get rid of the president by
voting for jerrymandering. To this, I'm not gonna call them racist,

(24:26):
because they're so busy calling me racist that it's lost
all meaning. But I find it interesting that just when
minorities and young people and immigrants started taking a step
to the right, that suddenly California.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Democrats really want to really, really want to redistrict. I
find that odd.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
The other thing is they're spending speaking about the La
County Board of Supervisors spending money to upend private property
rights by the way landlords own their own properties, So
telling people they don't have to pay them is a little.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Bit of it.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think that's a takings class. Not quite sure because
I've only ever played a lawyer on TV. But the
Board of Supervisors also took money away from our district
attorney after we passed Prop thirty six to stop crying.
So there is no low that they won't stoop to
to make sure that here in California we're paying five

(25:23):
star prices to.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
Get half star service.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
I thought the role of government was to keep us
safe and to stop corruption and to I don't know,
have clean streets that I don't drive over huge potholes
with But what.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Do I know.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, they're going to say keep us safe from the cops.
That's what they're going to say, which we'll get into
it a little bit. But you know, I saw on
the Attorney General's description of Prop. Fifty. This is a
scam that they've been playing as long as they've dominated California.
I mean, Kamala Harris did it for Prop forty seven.
She sold her soul for some sorrows, money and lie

(26:00):
to call it Safe Streets and Safe school Initiative.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
It was actually called the Safe Neighborhoods and Schools Act,
and it included the demograding of rape of an unconscious
woman into a tikenable offense.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah. Outrageous, I think. And this one they added, well,
you know we you know, inspirationally, we want missions in
all states. That's what you're voting on, which means nothing.
It's just a hoodwink the voters, like they've done over
and over and over again, which which is amazing to me.
Why you know, I did have a Democrat on my show.

(26:34):
I did do talk to democrats too, and he was
a modern Democrat. And I'll say, because it's right up
your alley, he says. These Democratic socialists have had their
time and they've failed, and they got to go. And
we got a couple on the LA County Board of Supervisors,
we got several on the LA City Council. I think
we got one as a mayor. And they are failing

(26:55):
miserably in executing as executives in LA County, in LA City,
and they're only one way We're going to change that.
We vote confident people in place, and that is good
right now, It's going to have to include Republicans because
they're the only ones that are going to stand up
and see.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
And I have a suggestion for your sane and moderate
Democrat friends. They're not going to fix this until you
reject them. They are wholly owned subsidiaries of public sector
unions and the DSA, and nothing will stop them until
their numbers drop, which, by the way, they are. If
you look at registration numbers, Democrats are ascendant even in

(27:33):
Los Angeles County, and I mean Republicans are ascendent and
Democrats are are losing. It turns out that people really
don't like being mugged, and so you know that's uh.
I would like to send the California Democrat Party a
gift basket because they're certainly helping my case.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, I agree, we're going to get into crime, I know,
but I gotta do some other stuff here. Let's see,
how about homelessness. I heard you talk on a podcast.
I think we we've got a headline on we got here,
we go. Let's see enough is enough? One Democrats take
on homeless encampments. We've had a pretty much a bluestate

(28:12):
Democrat dominated state for fifteen years, and they keep failing,
and they keep doubling down on stupid when it comes
to homeless. And I know I heard you heard some
thoughts in yours on homeless. Can you share with the
audience what do you think about our homeless problem here
in LA and how we're going to solve it in
Los Angeles?

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Well, again, narrative matter.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
So what the Democrats on the left are so good
at is they name things and imply the name implies
the solution.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
So homeless implies that a homeless solve the problem.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Undocumented implies that documents will solve the problem, neither of
which is true. We have a drug addiction and mental
illness crisis and a lack of law enforcement.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
These are not our unhoused neighbors.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
These are brothers, sister fathers, mothers, you know, loved ones
who the Democrats are allowing to die and overdose and
live in their own filth on the streets.

Speaker 5 (29:12):
Home's not gonna solve it. I don't know if you've
seen the videos.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
There's several there's a bunch of people, especially out of
San Francisco, and I've talked to officers, as I'm sure
you have people who've been given apartments, and what the
apartment turns into is an indoor space for these very sick,
broken souls to smear feces and shoot up and collect

(29:35):
stuff that you know, just breeds tetanus and encourages them
to either die alone or keep the taxpayer funded apartment
and then go out on the streets where they feel comfortable.
The only way to help them is through sobriety. There's
no other way, folks, literally no other way, because only

(29:57):
there's actually a Democrat in my gotto who has said,
you know, only by arresting people and putting them in
jail for the night do you then find out if
the voices in their head are due to the drugs
or to something a little more permanent, and then you
can triage and send people in the right direction.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
But if your response is.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
To say here's some fresh needles, you've just sentenced them
to death.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
It's a death county.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, you know. Okay. So I have a lot of
background in homelessness. I sit on the board of the
LA Mission. I wrote a strategic plan for alex Mina
Waiba when I was working for him. I dabbled in
it all the time. I was part of a pilot
for the rapid diversion program that's been accepted in Alley
County ninety two percent success rate for people on skid row.

(30:45):
And one of the things I recognized and get, you're
right they used language to suggest, to suggest the solution.
And then if you point out the failures, the fallacies.
Because I'm a I'm a public policy nerd, I'm going
to look at it and say you're wrong, that's not
going to work in here are the reasons why, And
they would kick me out of the room. But here's

(31:06):
the deal. We can't even talk about common sense solution
for solving the homeless problem. You know, we've done this
housing first model since before COVID. We ramped it up
under COVID. We spent billions on it, and it failed.
And we still can't get these idiots and the LA
County Board of Supervised to recognize that their narrative is
wrong and any time, because.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
They're looking at rhetoric not results.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Look, if progressivism worked, I'd be like, sweet, this is awesome,
yay for you.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
But it doesn't. I mean what.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
I actually volunteered for Bill Clinton's first presidential campaign, right.
I didn't think it was allowed for me to be
anything but a liberal. And one of the things that
really turned me was sending my firstborn to public school,
and there I realized that, no, the problem is not money.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
It's not about money at all.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
It's expectations, it's discipline. It is is charting a course
that people can aspire to instead of always using the
lowest common denominator.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
But what today's Democrat party.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
Who have all their dreams come true in Los Angeles,
in Oakland, in San Francisco. So the proof is in
the pudding that that stuff does not work. I almost
said a bad word, but then I remembered your YouTube warning.
So that that stuff doesn't work is that people are
dying and more and more money is being spent and

(32:31):
NGOs are thriving.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, the thing about the mgos is okay. So I
was the loan Republican working on these proud programs, and
that would go in the room and I'd say, you
guys know, I'm a Republican, right, but I'm a public
policy implementer. And I would tell them, hey, you can't
just implement these programs without a quality insurance plan, ken
performance indicator measurements that you're achieving success because if you

(32:55):
wait till the end and you fail, then you spend
a lot of money. So you do. And I learned
all this stuff implementing anti terrorism programs, believe it or not.
And so I and the programs that I worked. I
worked with Kamala Harrison a program and called back on
track and I had to explain to her staff, Hey,
good intentions aren't going to get good outcomes. You know,

(33:16):
they might direct where you need to go.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
But John, then what did she say?

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Did she says, are there when you intend something?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
The one time I met her, I got feedback that
she was a little concerned about me because I spoke up.
But her staff appreciated me because they weren't implementers. I was,
and it was a reasonably successful program and I learned
a lot. But here's the thing. Anybody that is working
in seriously working in the homeless realm understand that there
needs to be a hook to get somebody in treatment.

(33:47):
That hook can be faith, that who could be family.
That hooks many times for a lot of people is
the criminal justice system. And the La County Board of
Supervisors at La City have rejected the use of the
criminals us a system in this at all. Even people
who were previously didn't agree with it have come to
realize that there has to be a hook to get them.

(34:08):
And I always called it an non ramp to treatment,
an on ramp to treatment. And right now we got
four County Board of supervisors, at least four, maybe three.
Maybe Janie Hunt could sway the other way. I don't know.
Van So yeah, she's she's yeah, she's kind of a
modern that kind of goes whichever way the wind blows.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
More more like not a thought in that hand. That's original.
God blesser, God blesser.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
She just wants to be on the on the majority
side of things. She's not going to take any battles
up that you know that are going to bounce her
out of office. But there's so here's the thing, so
getting people into treatment because you said it addiction. So
fentanyl exploded her. From eleven hundred overdose deaths in twenty
ten to when George gasco and took office was twenty

(34:52):
five hundred. By the time he left office, it was
thirty two hundred overdose deaths. George, and it exploded after
he got an office. First, it exploded because of Prop.
Fourty seven, which he wrote. Then it exploded because he
stopped filing anything against anybody for use, which meant you
were not filling up drug court. You're not using the
omrans in the treatment, you're not using the hooks to

(35:12):
get them safe. And the one program I taught you
and told you about the rapid diversion program was go
to jail or go to treatment. So you had a hook.
It was a very light hook because these guys have
been in jail before. They're not they're not afraid of jail,
but they went there and it's and it's successful because
it's that hook. And guess the board didn't want to
accept that as a primary program until we showed their success, right,

(35:33):
and now it's one of their premier programs because it's
actually working. But let's talk about the NGOs. There's a
lot of money going in these NGOs and there's not
a lot of accountability. Now, this isn't This isn't just
local level. State level is doing this stuff, federal level
is doing stuff. It seems like they're just feeding these leftists,
not NGOs, who continue to just be the foot soldiers

(35:54):
for the the liberal left and the Democratic Party? Am I?
Is that how you see it? Too?

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Well? That's why. Yeah, I'm sure you've heard it as well.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
People go, oh, California, we'll just let you fall into
the ocean.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Don't give any money in California. Why bother? Their la
is lost.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Because everything bad starts here and gets exported and then
it becomes baked in the policies of you know, the
Convention of mayors and city planners or whatever, like all
these little faculty lounge girls and boys that say, you
know what, if we just put everything near a transit line,
families will never ever buy a car. Sure, I'm putting

(36:32):
my sick kid on a city scooter to take them
to the pediatrician. Nice try kid, But the fact is
that these these people don't want good results. Look at
what John Ally and others are doing by repatriating people
whose families miss them and love that they're you know,
they've hit bottom and and they don't.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
Know how to get back to Milwaukee or Idaho or
bad or whatever.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
And they're saying, we'll pay for you and clean you
up and get you back.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
And they've had success doing that.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
What Alex Villanueva did, the things he did with Chief Dietrich,
I think as it was empty.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Yes, So when that works, it puts the lie to what.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
They're trying to do, which I don't get me started
on ambassadors.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
I was.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
I did a little bit of a road drip this weekend,
drove out to the desert, and on the way back
we needed to stop for gas, and my husband wanted
to go, so pulled into a into a gas station
and he went inside and sort of out of the
you know, in a high trust society, you can sort
of not be watching you're six all the time, like
you're in you're in some sort of war movie, like
I thought I was in America. So I pull in

(37:40):
and I thought I saw an employee of the gas station,
emptying the garbage, and I almost said, oh, gosh, you
know I have I have food here, I need to
I should go just put it in the garbage that
he's taking out.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Thank God I.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Didn't, because when I looked again, I realized he had
no shoes.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
And then I looked again and drove around.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
His sweatshirt was open and there was blood streaming from
a wound and he was laughing maniacally.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
They want ambassadors to take care of that. Now.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
I don't even know how law enforcement would take care
of that. What you guys do, your total heroes. But
it's the only response, and the response we should have
had ten years ago when they started talking about this
stuff is to laugh in their faces. And instead, conservatives
are too polite and we go, oh, well, that sounds
like a good idea, Like an ambassador on a Metros

(38:33):
train with a knife wheeling rapist.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
That's yeah, let's try that. We haven't tried that. We
haven't tried it because it's stupid.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Well, they have tried it, and you know what do
they call them harm reduction strategies and violence interrupters, And
they just had one in Chicago arrested. He was, you know,
a neighborhood ambassador during the day, but at night he
was doing organized retail theft and got caught.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Everybody's got to work to jos.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, you know, hey, so he was making Hey, well,
the sun I'm shining on both ends here, and I
you know, so, yeah, I think it's ridiculous what they're doing.
And there's no here's the problem with that. And I
guess we're going to dovetail into crime here. And your
support of law enforcement is there's there's no no evidence
that it shows that it actually works. This is just
feel good. It feels good, it feels right. Cops all bad.

(39:24):
And here's one of the reasons why I am anti
Democrats completely. I mean, I'm a lifelong Republican, but I'm
a moderate right now, I know I voted for some
Democrats locally and non partisan racist, which is they're gone
now right, there's no nonpartisan races. I don't know, Roxanne,
did I lose you? Do I still have your voice?
I think I lost her. Let's see, I'm going to

(39:45):
tell her to come back on. But let me let
me talk a little bit about why I have a
frustration with the Democratic Party and you know you're back.
I was explaining why I have a frustration with Democratic
Party as a law enforcement officer. So I started my
career in nineteen eighty three. That's a long time agoret
and I was during all the really violent years, and

(40:06):
if you look at the crime in the eighties and nineties,
it was off the hook, is way higher than it's
been now, even higher than this increase. Ninety three, we
had thirteen point one murders and murders per one hundred
thousand in California. By twenty fourteen we dropped down to
four point four. But we implemented many laws that Democrats supported,
and that was the broken windows theory community community earned

(40:26):
in policing. But when it wasn't fashioning, yeah yeah, when
it wasn't fashionable to support that stuff, they called it
all racist, and they called all the cops racist, the
very same people who supported those policies, both in California
and nationally. Bill Clinton passed the Omnibus Crime Bill I
think it was ninety four, which was community earned in

(40:46):
policing and the cops grants. Hillary Clinton did her famous
Super Predator speech in support of it, and then moon
walked away from law enforcement when she was running for office, right,
and Joe Biden wrote that crime bill that passed right,
and so suddenly all the Democrats who did they lay
out the cops, cops are all racist. And one of

(41:08):
the things that bothered me, And I try to explain
this to people, I go, you know, all the cops
that they blame, LAPD, LA Sheriff, New NYPD, Chicago PD.
If you take a look at those department guess what
they are, their majority minority departments, and you've spent all
your time calling them racist, and the La Times and
everybody else refused to even look at the number. So

(41:30):
I always thought that the Democrats thoroughly betrayed law enforcement.
I have no idea why the unions keep supporting them,
but they do.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Well, that's what I was gonna say. That's the dirty
little secret. If our public sector unions, by the way,
which shouldn't be allowed to exist for desk jockeys for
certain right like I'm in a guild, I'm in a
screen actor's guild. It doesn't guarantee me work for life.
I can still get fired and have been. But the
fact is that if if unions don't you know, police

(42:04):
and fire unions don't say, you know what, We're not
gonna play because what are they gonna do. They can't
do worse. They can't replace all cops with ambassadors. I
mean they're trying. Yeah, but people have to be a
little bit brave. Naomi Wolf has a great essay former
Clinton uh a score strategist, where it was about COVID

(42:26):
where she said, I'm not brave.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
You're just a word that begins with P and ends
and why.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
And so everybody has to be a little brave. I
was at a city council meeting last night with four
Republicans and one progressive, and the one progressive derailed the
conversation about standing up against Prop fifty because she said,
let's not be political. We have got to stop the

(42:54):
you know, Marquita Queensberry rules of oh I'm sorry, is
it time for a tea break?

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Sure, let's lay down our arms.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
We have to fight like lives depend on it, because
they do.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
And they do. I think. So, I mean, just touching
back on the homeless thing and the crime thing, you know,
one of the things that all of these people know,
and this drives me crazy about La County. The mortality
rate in La County is off the hook because suicide
rates are up, overdose death rates are up, and homicide
rates are up. And the people that we hold accountable
for that, the Board of Supervisors, they duck and cover
and they take no responsibility. They hired this moron, Barbara Ferrara,

(43:31):
who's not even a real doctor, who isn't even focused
on the real issues if you look at the suicide stuff.
So the number one demographic, do you know what the
number one demographic for suicide is in LA County. It's
white men, mature white men. Do you think do they
get their equity slide ruler out to figure that one
out and put programs in place to target white men. No,

(43:52):
they got their equity slide ruler out looking for LGTVQ
suicide women.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
That's not a suicide in her own office.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
So when left off the building in the public safety office,
Jen Van Laher covered it for Red State you're talking to.
By the way, one of the plaintiffs in a lawsuit
that actually made it to court against Barbara Ferrara and
LA Public Health during COVID that, funnily enough, involved Adam
Schiff using the power of the government to shut down

(44:22):
our free speech rights and what did La County Board
of Supervisors do in that case?

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Even though we have one thousand person.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Legal department in La County, they paid white shoe attorneys
millions of dollars in legal fees to come after me
and other moms and print out multiple.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
Binders of full color versions.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Of all my tweets saying that Babs wasn't a medical
doctor and as John Phillips called her the fake doctor,
and because the judge didn't understand the difference between email
and social media, we did not prevail in that case.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
But my bonavides are there. I am not for corruption.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
I am for free speech, and I am four for
people speaking up and catching the flack. And that's how
you know you're over the target. So when people whind
to me that, well, I can't let people know them
there at were with us and it's time for you
to suit up and get in the battlefield.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
Well that's why I do my show. That's why I
bring people like you on, and I think we are
having an impact. I will tell you we did. I did.
I had somebody to come on, a statistician, a mathematician,
and we looked at all the counties around the country
who had sorospundardiers because we had that not George gascon
here for a while, right, And I said, hey, look
at all those counties. Did those counties flow more towards

(45:42):
the Republican and Donald Trump during this last election campaign? Yeah?
It was the Roman recap dot dot substack dot com.
He did the analysis and you know what, two percent,
every one of them on average went two percent towards Trump,
greater than the state that they were in. So if
it was like, that's you know ahead, you know.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
The definition of a of a conservative, right, No, it's
it's a liberal who's been mugged. And what what Democrats
and Soros funded DA districts have done around the country
is it turns out every time someone gets mugged, wakes
up to find a Chilean crime gang in their bedroom,
or witnesses a flash mob, another conservative gets their wings.

(46:24):
So it's a it's a hard way to do it.
I would prefer no one have to live through the
crime to do it. But that's what's moving the needle,
and these.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
People are it's a feature, not a bug that we
don't feel safe in our own homes.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, you know, we bat I gotta I gotta reachrens
a little bit. We bashed a little bit on nonprofits,
but the you know, there are some nonprofits that are good.
I just want to point out the LA Mission, which
I'm on the board of. Guys got a gala going
and they do wrap round services. Their focuses on reintegrating
people back in society. So if you're going to give donations,
and I encourage you to give donations to Los Angeles

(47:01):
Mission dot org, there are some good ones that do
a good job, just check them out beforehand. The problem
with the Ali Mission is they make the sign of
the Cross, so they can't get any government money, right.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Which is it's not separation of church and state, like
there is no church. It's that there should be no
litmus test for it. I will say before we have
to go, the number one thing people can do to
help move the needle and move the ball down the field,
whatever analogy you want to use, is to empower the

(47:31):
voter contact movement throughout California. Vote no on fifty, Vote
no now on fifty. I don't care what method you use.
It literally doesn't matter whether you put it in an
envelope and stick it in the mail, whether you put
in an envelope and put it in a ballot box,
whether you use carrier pigeon, whether you go to a
vote center, whether you just do it and do it

(47:54):
well before election day, because our little Secretary of State
has also said that maybe if you put it in
the mail on election day, but your rural it may
not be postmarked in time.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
Oh oh too bad, so sad.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
So do it now. Yeah, they'll they'll, they'll cheat anyway
they can. Okay, I wanted to talk a little bit
about how do you how do you find candidates? What
are you what are you looking for in a candidate?
What is La County in terms of candidate development doing?
We got six minutes left, so I figured this is
a good subject to get into.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Okay, So this is a great chance for me to
dispel a rumor because I get these questions all the time.
Who are you running for governor? Who are you running
for mayor? We don't run people because we are not communists.
The communists cast for candidates and they will tell people
what they are running for. So if Patrick Jordan calls

(48:43):
me and I'm a collectivist and you say, hey, God
told me, which I get God told me to run
for governor.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
I'll pack you on the head and say that's very nice. Patrick.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
I'm looking up your address and we need someone in
the city council or wherever you live.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
That's where you're running, and I'm to make the website.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
We are a party of rugged individualists A, so we
don't tell people what.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
To run for. B. We are outmanned and outspent.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
I don't have discretionary income to place people in places. Third,
and most importantly, LA County has over eleven hundred elected offices.
Let me say that again. That's over one thousand. Yep,
only fifty four of them are partisan. In other words,
the twenty four state Assembly districts, the thirteen state Senate districts,

(49:30):
and the seventeen give or take to Brandon on Prop
fifty congressional districts. That means that you have and I'm
an actor, so my math isn't that good. But there's
still over one thousand races.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
You can run for.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
For the love of God, if someone is thinking of
running for something, do not run for governor. We have
a lot of people in there, couple of them pretty good,
pretty interesting.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
We don't need you there.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
We need you in the places where people's lives are
most affected, the city councils, the waterboards, the mosquito bate boards,
the Board of Equalization. You may not know what it is.
It doesn't matter. You're running against stupid people like Katie Porter,
So honestly, it doesn't matter. What I personally am looking
for is people who can stand upon their own two

(50:14):
feet and aren't going to whine about, oh, you didn't
give me money.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
I'm not going to give you money.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
No one's going to give you money except for the
people that you inspire. The job of the party, and
it says this in our bylaws, the job of a
county party is to register Republicans and turn out Republican
voters and then to raise money for.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Those two things. That's it.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
So we want candidates everywhere. I encourage people to run
for office. And what we've been doing since I've been
chairman and what we're continuing to do when we get
over this Prop fifty fire drill is we're going to
have We actually have one coming up in San Diego
that we're doing in partnership with Leadership Institute, giving people training.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
I'll talk to.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Anybody about the viability of running us in a partisan
seat where they should run. I would also like people
to have a passing acquaintance with grooming and with etiquette,
and the ability to tie a tie if you're a man,
or to wear a foundational undergarment if you're a woman.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
You laugh.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
But I have people that come and say I'm running
for something, and I'm like, oh my god, have you
brushed your teeth lately? So think about carefully where you
can serve the best. I actually ran for office again,
I'm an actor, so I'm delusional and narcissistic. I ran
for office in twenty eighteen in a thirteen percent Republican

(51:33):
district against an incumbent.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Do you think I won? I did not. But what
I did do was he did spend money against me.
I was endorsed by the Daily News.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
And I got him to even debate me, So we
actually have a record of just how stupid he is.
Of course, since then he's failed upward and now he's
my city councilman. But the fact is we need all
hands on deck doing something. Maybe your skill is addressed envelopes.
Maybe your skill is talking and storytelling. We certainly need

(52:05):
more of that, and maybe you live in a district
that is has a city council that's an even split
or even has more Republicans, and you can tell because
they don't usually have bodies on those streets. And that's
how you know. You know, just need someone is retiring
or moving on and they need to be there. So

(52:25):
if you want to run lagop dot org, please sign
up to volunteer. Let us know that you want to
be a candidate, you want to give us money, you
want to host events. It's the most important thing is
letting people know that they're not alone, because I think
it can feel like you're in a losing locker room
all by yourself.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Right to be in LA, but there's over a million
of us.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
So your vote matters, and with Prop fifty it totally matters,
because it doesn't there's no district in this right.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
Like it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
Your vote counts as much as someone in the deepest,
reddest county. You know that they keep saying our county's
read yeah, you got ten people kiss off. So the
fact is nothing matters more than getting out the vote.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
By the way, if you know.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Anyone who says they're conservative but they're not registered to
vote or they say that they're not interested in politics.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
Politics is interested in you, my friend.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
So get your wrath over to you can do it online.

Speaker 5 (53:22):
Register to vote vote no on Prop fifty.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
All right, well, you know, we just got a few
minutes left, but I want to recap. So if you're
interested in change in your county, change in your city,
and this, because this is a national program, you can
do this anywhere. Run for La Run for a city council,
even if it's a small township, village, whatever, Run for
the waterboard as a Republican, get influence and work your

(53:45):
way up, raise money, make connections. And you know, thank
you Roxanne Hog for joining me here today I'm briefing
with the chief. It was a great conversation. I'm going
to have to get you back as the election heats
up because I want to hear about the canons in
La County and I want to talk about.

Speaker 4 (53:59):
That and we need we need candidates in La County
and if we need and good candidates. Not to say
that like everybody has run so far, we appreciate it.
But the better the math gets that differential between Republican
and Democrat, the more you'll see people like if the
math was better.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
Rick Caruso wouldn't have run of the den.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I got to wrap Rockxan. Thank you for joining me
again today. We'll take anywhere in a car, traveling and
a plane. Whatever. We'll have you back on briefing with
the Chief. Thank you for joining me again today. Thank
you folks for joining me. I briefly with the Chief
catches next Wednesday. I think it's going to be just me.
I haven't got a guest yet, so I will go
over some public policy next Wednesday. Roxanne will see you soon, Okay, thank.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
You so much. Bye bye,
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