July 23, 2025 • 55 mins
On today’s episode of Briefing with the Chief, we will discuss the recent deaths of three Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Detectives; Joshua Kelley-Eklund, Victor Lemus and William Osborn. All three perished while handle explosives seized earlier during a call out in the City of Santa Monica. The detectives were members of the elite Arson/Explosives Detail.
In addition to this tragic event, we will discuss another Gavin Newsom lie, a letter from Attorney General Pam Bondi to LA Sheriff Robert Luna demanding cooperation with Immigration and Customs Enforcement and a recent article by the New York Post which state marijuana can be dangerous!
In addition to this tragic event, we will discuss another Gavin Newsom lie, a letter from Attorney General Pam Bondi to LA Sheriff Robert Luna demanding cooperation with Immigration and Customs Enforcement and a recent article by the New York Post which state marijuana can be dangerous!
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Speaker 1 (00:50):
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that show on Twitter as well. And I think we
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just did Dark Blue, a movie about corruption in the
Lapit fictional movie about Coruction LPD during the Rodney King
Riot's era. I had a couple of retirees with me.
We had a great time, and I do a lot
more fun on that show. I used to get a
little more political on that show, but now that I
got this outlet briefly with the Chief, I don't have
to be so political on that one. We just have
a good time and talk about movie making as it
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relates to law enforcement and crime, and it's a lot
of fun. So check out pop Culture Minefield Morning Coffee
with the Chief. That's the name of that show, and
I do that every Tuesday at eight am Pacific standard time.
So check that out. But today we're going to talk
about three heroes. These are the three men who were
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killed July seventeenth ur July eighteenth in the LA area.
They were members of the Los Angeles County Shriff's Arson
Explosives team. They died well handling or dealing with some
found military ordinance. And we'll go over all of that
just to explain it so that everybody's up to speed.
But we'll talk about the team itself, what they do,
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how highly trained they are, and then I'll go through
it timeline of what actually happened. But before we do that,
I'm gonna I'm gonna con gill you our series of
Newsom's lies. You know, now, I last week I did
a bit about I'm just gonna every week I'm gonna
do a little bit about Newsom's lives because he lies
so much, and he's he is fancies himself as a
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presidential candidate, and I can't believe that somebody lies so
much actually believes that he has a chance. And so
I decided. Being in California, you know, we know his
lies here, and of course he still keeps getting elected.
That drives me crazy because I've never voted for the man.
But I just want to let the people out there
are people in the USA that are going to vote
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in the primaries if he Avenuwsom's on the ballot, that
you really know what you're getting into with him. There's
so many areas I could do, you know, twenty shows
on the failed public policies. I just really want to
talk about the lies because the lies really frame who
he is. And now last week's lie was he said
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that the oil companies are gouging in California, and he's
been saying that for ten years. Oil companies, big oil
is gouging California, and I talked about last week that
it was actually a study that came out from USC
that says, no, it's not gouging. It's taxes being placed
on gas at the pump and regulation being put in
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place by California government. These regulatory bodies that are all
appointed by Newsome, and that includes the Air Quality manastraction
in southern California, air Quality Management which puts the restriction
on these oil companies, and other regulatory agencies that increase
the cost of operating in California so much. Because they
want net carbon zero, they don't want any fossil fuels
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being used in California, and so they're driving them out.
In fact, two refiners I think we have seven. They
used to have like up to thirty, but we have
seven left and two of them have indicated they're going
to leave next year, and we are actually facing potentially
eight dollars and fifty cents per gallon in California. We
already have either the highest or the number two gas
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prices in the country. You know, we're competing with Hawaii,
which is an island and it has to have all
their oil pumped in. Now, I keep in mind, California
at one time it was the oil boom state. At
the turn of the last century, it was the oil
boom state. A lot of people make a lot of
money pump and oil. And we still had a lot
of pumps going in California, but they're gradually getting shut
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down by Newsom and its regulatory policies, which means the
price of fuel is going up. So we debunked that lie.
He's lying. USC put out a study. Finally, somebody put
out of study. Now anybody had a vacant basic economics
class understood that Newsom was lying, But he and the
entire legislature continued to propagate this lie to convince people
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that the oil prices weren't going up because of bad policy,
but they were going up because of big oil. Well
that's a lie. The next lie I wanted to talk
about is is the Latin x you know here here
in Californian around the country, you know, but mostly in
California or anywhere you had a large Latino community. We
had to go through this exercise of political correctness on
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how you call people, right, it's part of this this
cultural Marxism. You know, we can't we can't have the
patriarchy or any indication of a patriarchy in our language.
We can't. We shouldn't be referring to anything in terms
of gender, male or female. We need to purge that
out of our language. And you know, you have to
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ask people what their pronouns are. You can't just assume
just because they look like a guy that you address
them as a guy. You and so you have to
use this gender neutral language. Well that's a problem in California.
So because California we have a very large Latino population
and in La County it's fifty percent Latino, and so
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they're a big part of our population. And so these
radical leftists has decided that we're not going to use Latino.
So let me explain. So in the Spanish language, you
you when you when you speak Spanish, there's gender there general,
there's words based on gender. So there's male and female words.
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You know, they have the gender. So Latino is considered
the mash glin or the male version for for Latino
and Latina is for women. Right. So if you're dressing,
so here's how it works. So if if you're if
you are dressing a room full of people and they're
all Latinos, you're gonna say los Latinos, right, You're gonna say, oh, lah,
los latinos, Uh, welcome to the meeting whatever. Right, So
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you're going to talk to all of them men and women,
they're gonna call lost latinos latinos, right or who knows Latinos,
who knows Latinos, right, So that's how you're gonna call them. However,
if you're dressing, and if you're dressing a room full
of male Latinos, you're gonna say same thing, lost Latinos.
So when you're dealing with the male and female of
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the Spanish language, if it's men and women, you use
the masculine version. If it's just men, use the masculine version.
If now, if it's all women, it's last latinas, right,
so you use the female version. Right. Well, the radical
Marxist decided, well, we can't have any of that, we
can't have any of that. We got to use latin X.
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So you take off the O and you just put
an X in there oor a just put an X
in there. Now, here's the deal. They most Latinos didn't
like this. You see, this is part of their culture.
They grew up in Mexico or Guatemala or Hernette or
Honduiters or San Salvador, and they speak Spanish and their
language is part of their culture. It's it's it's weaved
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into their culture where they use where they use the
male and feminine versions of their language to address their
their abuela that's their grandma, their abuilo that's their grandfather,
their you know so, and and and it's part of
their culture. You know, miho is is kind of a
slang version for my son. Miha is kind of a
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slang version for their daughter. They don't want to say
me x, they want to say meho. It's actually it's
it's a slang version. It's me eho is my son, right,
me eha is my daughter? And so. But these cultural Marxists,
most of them are white, have decided we can't do that.
We have to start calling everybody latenx and so Gavin
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Newsom picked that up and he started doing that. Now
this is far left stuff, right, and this just leads
into the lie, and and and so he started using that.
And then when he got called on it later when
it wasn't popular, when he's trying to go to the middle,
he gets called on it later and he denies that
he did it. He denies that he was doing it.
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Let's roll the video another Gaven Newsom lie.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
By the way, Now, one person ever in my office
has ever used the word latin ex.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
We finally put that to bed. We did find somebody
who used it repeatedly in his office. Let's take a
listen to this.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I hope we can really paint a picture in terms
of our consciousness of how impactful this has been on
the LATINX community. LATINX community, the LATINX and black communities
got politicians that are banning not assault rifles, but the
word LATINX.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
They're not even serious. It is all created by the left.
Lest they do what lest they give a gender to
the word describing a Latin person, Latino or Latina. But
that's the way Spanish is made. Spanish is male and female.
There's nothing you can do about it. LATINX is absurd.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, it's absurd. So I hear so hereot he denied
in the original clip on CNN, he denied that anybody
in his administration has used latin X. He's so he's
moon walking away from those comments. And uh and then
these news orders was great. They put him up there
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on several occasions using latin X, denying that. First he
denies he used it, then they showed clips of amusing
it and how important it is, and then he can
bemoan that the Republicans are trying to trying to ban
the word of latin X. So first he supports it,
supports it before he doesn't support it, and and yeah,
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so this is this is why you can't trust Gavenusom.
This is why. I mean, I know this seems pretty simple,
but this is this is out reminds you saying, you
know what, I thought that maybe that was the right
thing to do, but the Latino community didn't like it.
So you know what, I'm going to do what the
Latino community wants. I hear them loud and clear, I understand.
I don't just deny it, just say yeah, I went
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along with it because it seemed like the right thing
to do, but you know, the Latino community didn't like it,
and that's a failure. He could have just said that's
a failure on my part. I should have listened to
the Latino community. And you know, our produce, my producer
here has brought up, you know, the Spanish is part
of the Romantic language group, right, it's a Latin, and
you've got French, and you've got Spanish and and and
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and and so that's part of this, this this group
of Romantic languages that have been around for thousands of years.
Obviously the Romans, uh talked in Latin, you know, and uh, well,
we've got French and we got Spanish, you know. And
the number two and three largest language spoken around around
the world besides English is Spanish and French. Both of
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them used this. And so we're gonna we're gonna tell
the Spanish culture and the French culture that they need
to reject all that and embrace this new hard left
ideology in which we don't recognize genders and we don't
focus on it and and and it goes crazy here
in California because so this for me, this is this
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this lie. I got more lies coming from him, but
this is outrageous because this was an easy thing. Yeah,
I did that. I've listened to Latino community. They don't
like it, they don't use it. I hear my voters
loud and clear. I hear the people loud and clear,
and I've changed. I agree in hindsight it was ridiculous.
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Can't say that, can admit he is wrong, right canonm
he is wrong. And so this is what drives your curating.
But here's here's the other thing. You know, I don't
know if you've noticed, but over the last six years,
or maybe his last ten years, even in the newspapers,
everybody suddenly everybody's a partner. They're not a husband, they're
a wife. They're a partner. If you notice that, like
I read the La Times or something like that, and
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you know, Pat Jordan's partner, What the hell does that mean?
You know, he's been living with his partner, they've been
together for eight years. You know, they don't even say
marriage their partner. And what drives me crazy is I
don't want to be called a partner. I want to
be called a husband. I want my wife to be
called the wife. That's what she prefers. But we can't
do that because these leftists have captured our culture. In in
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addition to the Latino culture, and demanding that all of
this gender neutral nonsense and that we use that when
referring to each other. Now, the Latino is, the Mexican community,
the Guatemalans, the Hounduran. They rejected all this nonsense. They
don't like any of this nonsense. Maybe that's one of
the reasons why more Latinos voted for Trump this pastime around,
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because they don't like the nonsense. But this is this
is the latest lie. And I just I did need
to point out that Gavin Newsome they refer to her
his wife as the first partner. What a bunch of nonsense. Now,
I have to say, at least, at least at the
federal level. You know, they still call the first lady
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the first lady. And you know, when Camello was in office,
they called her husband the second Gentleman. So they still
embraced masculine and feminine titles for the first lady. And
when we had a guy who was the second gentleman,
the second gentleman. So at least they understand that that's nonsense,
or probably more importantly, they understand that they would turn
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off a whole bunch of voters by embracing that nonsense.
At the federal level, and here Gavin Newsom embraces it.
This is why and he lies about it. This is
why he can't be our next president. So I hope
that's a fun factoid for you as you as you
deal with and try to understand why Gavin Newsom is
somebody you can't be followed. Now, I want to remind
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you guys, we are playing on Rumble, and I just
want to remind you folks that we're building our audience
there and you guys need to follow us there, follow
us on Rumble. Now that the next thing, I'm going
to do two things on Gavin Newsom. And I referenced
last year or last week that Gavin Newsom had cheated
on his best friend, and I found a clip. I
just want to show that this is where he apologizes
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for cheating on his best friend. And this is when
he was the mayor of San Francisco. Now for me,
you know, you know I don't I wouldn't ever cheat
on my best friend, right, I wouldn't cheat it with
his wife. You know, That's what he did. He cheated
with his best friends wife. And the guy was his
campaign manager, so he was also an employee technically and
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and I just think that to me, that that is outrageous.
This means the guy can't be tryed. If you can't
even have some reverence for the for the marriage of
and the bond between your best friend and his wife,
how can you be trusted for anything but here in California.
You know, none of that, None of that stopped him
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because he you know, he's a wealthy guy and he's
he's on a path. This was just a speed bump
for him to eventually be governor. Had a lot of
money behind him. You know, he went to George Soros's
wedding in twenty fourteen, so he's connected and he got
the money he needed just get into office and stay
in office. As a recall, but I wanted to roll
this video so that you know what I'm talking about.
You could do your own research on him. Let's roll it.
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The betrayal, his betrayal.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Thank you all for coming here and short notice. I
want to make a clue that everything you've heard and
read is true, and I am deeply sorry about that.
I've heard someone I care deeply about, Alex Turk, his
friends and family, and that is something that I have
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to live with and something that I am deeply sorry for.
I am also sorry that I've let the people of
San Francisco down. They expect a lot of their mayor,
and my personal lapse of judgment aside. I am committed
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to restoring their trust and confidence and will work very
hard in the upcoming months to make sure that the
business of running the city is framed appropriately. I also
want to extend a personal apology to everyone in our administration,
to my staff that I just met with, to my
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friends and.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
My family members.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I am deeply sorry and am accountable for what has occurred,
and have now begun the process of reconciling it. And
now we'll be working aggressively to advance our agenda in
the city and to work hard to build again the
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trust and restore the trust that the people of San
Francisco have afforded me. I appreciate everyone taking the time
to be here today. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, there you go. So the betrayal of his friend,
the betrayal of his family, portrayal of the citizens of
San Francisco just a speed bump for him. Because he
had big money behind him, influential guy connected to the
Getty family. He was going to move forward. He knew it,
you know, he obviously he was contrite there, but you
know that was a performance. This is not a guy,
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you know, because you know if you get caught in
something like that, that you're going to be very careful
on what you do and you're going to avoid those
things that reflect on your character. But he's not really
worried about character. He just has to get past this
one event where he portrayed his best friend and he
just blew it. But he knew he could get past this, right,
And he continues to lie. Like we said, he lied
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about Big Oil, he lied about Latin X. I mean,
what else won't this guy lie about? So this is
not a guy that has the values and the integrity
that we need as a president of the United States.
I mean I didn't vote for the guy at all
for governor, and I can't wait till he's out of office.
And you know, as my producer says, I can't believe
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they voted this guy after this, Yeah, that's right. Can't
believe he advanced after this. Yeah, I have a hard
time believe in it too. But you know what, the
mainstream media after this happened and hit the news, not
once was it mentioned as he ran for governor. Not
once did they do this because they had already picked
who they wanted to He was the Democrat choice and
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they were going to hide all of his dirt. They
weren't going to make an issue of it because you
know what, you know, we had a mayor here in
La and he cheated on his wife, Antonio Vieta, Great Radagosa.
He cheated on his wife with a beautiful news reporter,
and that impacted his vote for the Latinas when he
ran for governor. That that impacted his vote. So had
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had had had the news actually put out there that
that Gavin Newsom, you know, betrayed his best friend by
sleeping with his best friend's wife then destroyed that relationship.
I wonder if that would have hurt him with the
voters too. But you know what, the media decided not
to print that, not not to go forward with that
because he's there. Guy. Okay, that's enough with Gavin Newsom
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for today. Let's get onto our three heroes. You know,
it's an event that happened in La County. This is
the explosion that killed three detectives in La County. I'm
gonna go through a timeline. But before I do that,
I want to talk a little bit about the unit
that we're talking about. These men were all part of
the Arson explosives units for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department,
and on July eighteenth, they died in an explosion as
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they were attempting to examine. I thought, render safe that.
You know. I'll give you a little more detail here
in a minute, but I wanted to talk about the
unit itself, the breath of their responsibility, so that you
understand these guys were highly trained folks. It's a very
small community of people around the country that do bomb
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I don't want to say bomb mitigation or bomb disposal.
You know, and you know the movies where they have
the guy disarming the bomb, you know, that's not really
what happens with these guys. They have protocols that have
been developed over decades based upon lessons learned from events
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that have gone bad. They constantly are learning, they're constantly training.
They put procedures in place. They jealously abide by those
procedures to everybody safe because they're dealing with explosives, sometimes
big explosives, sometimes small explosives. But they deal with them
on a day to day basis. Not this team. It's
relatively small team. I don't know how many members are
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part of the team, but it's not super big. Maybe
a dozen or fifteen folks. And they're actually a detail,
so they're not really a bureau. They're a detail. They're
part of our Special Enforcement Bureau, which is just a
collection of specialty teams, including the SWAT Team and the
Emergency Services Detail, which does you know, out and rescue
and high angle rescue, a lot of cool stuff. I
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worked with those guys in the port. I didn't jump
out of the helicarpters they did. I just worked with
them as part of a search and rescue team. Great guys,
good guys. They're all committed to their job and they're
all excellent. These guys fly all over the country to
give training. That's how good they are. And the reason
why they're One of the reasons why they're so good
is they service an area the four thousand square miles
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of La County minus the city of l A, so
that's ten million people. City of LA has their own
bombed bomb bomb squad. Very excellent team as well, top
notch one of the best in the countries as well,
and La City services four million people. The La County
sheriff Apartment's Bomb Squad services six million people because in
addition to the sheriff the areas that the Sheriff polices,
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they provide the support for any of the other other
police departments in La County, smaller ones that don't have
that capacity or can't can't do that expense, so they
provide it as part of the county wide services that
the county gives to all the cities in La County,
so that that gives them a population of six million
people who they're who they're protecting by doing bomb mitigations
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and other things. Now they you're here by the title
it's arson explosives. Lots of times you'll see here the
bomb Squad, but in La County it's arson explosives. So
they do a broader array of things. I'm just going
to go through it because so they understand this is
what they deal with every day, this is why their
job is such a dangerous job. And I was really
happy to see the politicians come out because you know,
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they've been anti comp for a long time, and of
course they recognized that this was a terrible event, and
they expressed, and it takes some comfort in that, although
why can't we do this, Why can't you have the
same kind of support every day. Doesn't really take three
people to die before you have this kind of support,
give this kind of support to law enforcement. But these
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guys investigate our sends, bombings, burgaries where explosives are taken
or a magazine is victimized. What they mean by that
is construction sites sometimes use explosives and has charges, and
other industries use explosives, so they'll have what they call
a magazine a place where they actually store the explosives
that they using construction or whatever it is. And if
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anything's stolen out of those magazines, then arsenal explosives will
investigate that right and they'll do disastrous fires. So the
recent fires here in La County, so the ones in
Eaton Canyon would have been solely theirs because it was
all in the county the area. They would probably assist
with the Palisades fire because it started an LAPD's area
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and went over to Malibu, so they would assist as
needed in that one. They would handle the arson investigations
in Eaton Canyon. So some of the fire departments also
have arson investigators, so they would work closely with those
arson investigators. Another again, another small group of people who
specialize in a very particular type of investigation, and they
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travel around the country training and getting training from this
small population of folks. Now, they'll also investigate any explosions
or explosion caused by explosion. There are others some naturally
occurring stuff that were causes explosions, they would probably roll
and write a report on that. But the explosion by explosives,
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they would do that investigation as well. Except fireworks they
don't really do. They'll investigate any explosives, but not fireworks.
They will look forward what causes the fires that damage
public utilities, public property, or causes any personal injury, so
you know, you know, accounty building, any public infrastructure, or
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a fire where there's personal injury. Right, If there's a homicide,
then homicide would take the lead and arsenal explosives would
probably assist in that. They give the specialty information to homicide,
but homicide would take the lead as they are in
this case the death of these three guys. They would
also investigate any fires that cause seventy five hundred dollars
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worth damage, which is almost everything. Maybe not a trash
fire or dumpster fire, but just about anything where that
gets lit on fire intentionally is going to cost seventy
five hundred dollars damage. That's a low threshold, so busy.
That means they're a busy, busy team, right and centiary devices,
illegal manufacturer and sale and possession of fully automatic weapons,
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heavy weapons greater than sixty caliber, and silencers. They will
also investigate the illegal manufacturer and sale and possession of bombs,
explosives and destructive devices, illegal manufacturer of fireworks like fireworks factories,
and any series or patterns in which there's in it
that any of the crimes above would would occur. So
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if there's a series of burglaries of magazines, they would
they'd investigate that, right so, because it indicates something bigger
is going on when you have a series like that.
So that's what they do, right, And this is a
lot of the stuff is dangerous stuff. Some of us
just straight investigation, but some of it is dangerous because
you're handling really dangerous material. And they also have responsibility
on the department to store and dispose of found abandoned
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and surrendered explosives which is and explicit devices, which is
what we're talking about here. This is found explosives, which
will get into a minute process requests to assign and
stamp serial numbers and handguns on long guns, so sometimes
you got a gun that doesn't have a serial number
and they would get that serial number and do it.
So they work closely with the ATF ALCOHOL to back
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on firearms, the federal folks and to do that kind
of stuff. And let's see, they will collect, preserve, and
analyze any evidence for presentation of court. So if there's
an explosive or a fire and let's say it was
an arson and there's an accelerant, they're going to collect
the evidence and store that in the appropriate place so
that they can later use that for a prosecution. Act
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as advisors too and instructors for the training academy, the
staff regarding arson explosives training for the department, and they
do this throughout the county. So we do training in
our academy, but they will go to smaller agencies and
do training as well, and they'll go around the country
and do specialized training for other members of the arson
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explosives community. They will do the safe handling large catches
of fireworks. So if you get like we had one
here in La I guess a year and a half ago,
large catch of fireworks and they kind of blew it
how they handle it ended up destroying some houses. Lap's
bomb squad did. But that's a similar role. Hopefully we
will have it better when we face that issue. Act
as liaisons for local members of the FBI. FBI's Nuclear
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Response and Electronic Countermeasures Team. Yeah, I advised on that
before I retired a long time ago, very six months,
and then I was out of that job. So interesting stuff.
So that's a anti terrorism nexus when you talk about
that stuff. The goal is to create monitoring so that
you can disrupt any material coming into the region that
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could be used for inappropriate purposes. So we've got a
broad range of responsibility. Some of this stuff is very dangerous,
but this is what these guys do and it takes
a high degree of skill set for these guys who
are killed last week on the eighteenth. So they're constantly
training and their constantly working maintain a cadre of explosives
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and accelerant detection canine. So they trained the bomb detection
canines make sure they're trained and they do their certification.
I had I think thirteen that worked for me, and
we had to work closely with them. When I was
the chief of La Transit and we had our own
bomb detection canine program, we work closely with them and
that takes It's a lot of training that goes along
with the dogs. Got to train, got to get They
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got to train almost weekly to maintain their skill sets.
It's a perishable skill. So you can see just to
do this very narrow slice of keeping the community safe
from explosives is a huge effort, and it's done by
a very small group of people, which is why this
is so tragic, right know, counting how many lives they
saved in the course of their duties and the course
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of their career assisting people in this area, and then
conduct protective detection sweeps for high profile events. So when
you know, presidents come to down, we'll sweep areas. Obviously,
the FEDS will do their own thing as well, maybe
like Benjamin nettan Yah who he became a town we
would do something for him just because of the threat level.
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But that's the kind of thing that they do. And
so I want people to understand what we're talking about.
These are highly trained guys, highly capable guys who put
their lives at risk over and over again. And that's
who these guys are, That's what they did. Let's talk
about the timeline, but well, you know, let's roll the
video first and then I'll get into the timeline.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Live breaking news.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Good Friday morning to you. I'm Rachel Brown. We begin
with breaking news in Monterey Park where it's been a
deadly explosion Scott Rifle.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah, I'm Rachel. Tragic incident here at the SEB compound
of the Ela County Show's Department. It looks like this
explosion occurred in the lot where they house the bomb squad.
It happened around seven to twenty this morning. We were
overhead around seven thirty and it appeared we could see
at least three people had been killed. We don't have confirmation,
but it did look like all three more than likely
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La County Sheriff's deputies. Exactly what went wrong, we have
no idea at this point in time. We're not getting
any information from the Sheriff's Department or from the fire department.
LAPED has actually sent their bomb squad to the scene.
We saw a pretty good sized explosion blow out all
the windows of the patrol cars to see in the
front of your screen there, But it looks like the
explosion occurred off of a ramp from one of the
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bomb squad vehicles and sadly killed those three individuals. Right now,
we're trying to get more information as to what may
have happened, but certainly it's unprecedented. We haven't seen something
like this at the Sheriff's Department bomb squad ever in
my experience, and certainly there'll be a long playing investigation.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Rachel Okay, Scott, thank you awful story that we'll continue
to follow all morning long.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, so that was actually July eighteenth, that seven thirty
in the morning, but there was some activity that Basically
what happened is as I talked about, they get calls
for bombs that are found, and they also get calls
for what turned out to be military ordinance that is found.
Not an uncommon call here in La County, probably not
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an uncommon call in the city of La and I
imagine a lot of major cities they get this kind
of call fairly regularly. You know, I don't want to
say it's every day, but it is frequent enough that
we can say it's not an oddity. And so they
got a call of some grenades or a military ordinance
that was found in a storage unit and an apartment
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building in the city of Santa Monica. So the city
of Santa Monica is one of the eighty eight cities
in La County. It's a beach city. It's adjacent to
the city of Malibu, and so they just responded. They
responded like they normally do, and they found it, recognized
it as ordinances. I did hear that. They called for
the military to come pick it up, but they wouldn't
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be able to get out there till the morning, and
so they seize this. It was actually in a storage
unit for a rental unit. And you know in Santa
Monica have a lot of apartments, so some of them
are old style, so they'll have the apartment and then
you'll have like a storage unit above where you park
your car and a car port, and it could be
something like that. So it was left behind by a
previous tenant and some lady was cleaning out the storage unit.
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She obviously wanted to use it, and she found it
and she called the Santa Monica Police who called Daily
County Sheriff's Department. So they found this stuff, they act
rated and then they transferred it back to Biscalue Center.
So when you were watching, you saw a helicopter taking
a picture of where the explosions. And basically it was
a multi acre compound that has the Sheriff's jail, the
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Sheriff's Memorial, a pistol range. It also houses the Sheriff's
Swat team, the bomb squad, has a bunch of classrooms.
So we'll do a lot of obviously we'll do training
for the cadets, but we'll also do training for advanced
officer training. So I've been there numerous times myself. In fact,
that's where I went through the academy in nineteen eighty three.
They closed that academy for a while and reopened it
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maybe about ten years ago. And it's right in the
city of East of La It's in the East of
La so it's unincorporated area of La County in East
Los Angeles. So at seven thirty the explosion occurred at
the Biscolue Training Center and the blast killed three veterans.
Detectives Joshua Kelly Ecklund, Victor Limas, and William Osborne. Now
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there's a picture of them that the headline said the
best of the best. Yeah, that's absolutely true. This is
from Los Angeles time. What we know about the three
LA County Sheriff's detectives killed in explosion inside, I won't
go too much into these guys all had stellar careers.
One was a thirty three year veteran, another twenty two
year veteran, another nineteen year veteran. One was the father
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of seven, another was the father of six, and the
third was a father of three. Very experienced guys, stellar careers,
family men obviously, and they leave behind very large families,
which is very very so you know, I actually forgot
to get the link for the donations. See if I
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can't get that for next show, and I'll put it
up there as you guys listen. The deputies had X
rayed the material that the grenades that they had found
and believed them to be inert. So basically, they act
rayed them and they believed that the explosive material was
not in there, and they used the word it's inert,
So they basically thought they were safe, and obviously they're
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gonna be looking at the processes that they went through.
And remember these are process oriented people. That's what Arson
explosives and the bomb squatter is all about. They go
through their check off list, they monitored all the time.
It's constant. I had them on the trans system all
the time because we get these suspicious packages and they
have a very methodical way that they handle it. And
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I'm confident that this and they did everything that they
were supposed to do on this event. But they actually
did believed they were inert and took them back to
the training center around seven thirty in the morning, they
begin to cut one up, cut cut into one to
examine it, and it exploded and killed all three of them.
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I have no idea if these were actually the detectives
responded to Santa Monica or they were just uh mitigating
the explosives next. I'm not sure if that if that's
what happened, I guess we'll have to wait for more
information come out, but I know that we have three
people that are dead. They may be the guys who
responded to They probably had the most information as to
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what was happening. So the HF, the FBI, sheriffs homicide
and with the assistants of l APED got to reconstruct
all of this right to figure out what happened. They
got to do it for two reasons. They got to
figure Okay, they followed the procedures, so we have to
If they follow the procedures and this led to the
death of three people, then we need to look at
national standards for how we handled explosive devices so that
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this strategy doesn't happen in the future. And they just
wanted or was there a breakdown or and they all
want to investigate where did this come from? Which is
what is going on right now. They're investigating where this
came from for us, for the La County Sheriff's from
that is my old department. This is the largest deadliest
day in terms of the loss of personnel for the
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La County Sheriff's farm since eighteen fifty seven. Most people
don't know, but La County actually formed in eighteen fifty.
In eighteen fifty seven, I think was Sheriff Barton was
leading a posse after some thieves and they got ambushed
and so he and several members of his posse were killed.
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La County used to go from Ventura I used to
go all the way down to the border. It was huge,
and then gradually more and more counties formed in La
County shrank and size to where it's only four thousand
square miles with ten million residents. But it used to
be huge, and we had multiple fatalities in eighteen fifty seven.
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This is the first time we've had three. This has
been the worst since nineteen fifty seven. Now, the FBI
and the ATF joined the investigation, and the AHF alcohol, tobacco,
and firearms. This is this is rating there Bailey Wick
the FBI, we'd probably join to see if there's any
nexus to terrorism. Additional searches were conducted in the city
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of Santa Monica, so they went back to the original
location to see if they can get more information. Obviously
identify who left it there, since its military ordinance and
there's an indication that the person who lived in this
apartment was affiliated to the military. We're going to eventually
bring in the military to figure out where was this
stuff taken from. Most of the stuff has zero numbers,
(39:38):
so it could be traced, and I think I think
Amanda found the link for there we go. Watchthree dot
Com Watch three dot com so you can make a
donation to the families of the men who were killed.
It was just awesome, though, this is this is okay,
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so thank you, and so they'll look at any And
they did get a lead. And so this is on
January twenty first, So they went back to do the
investigation in Santa Monica on on the on the July nineteenth, right,
so pretty quick and and they got a lead and
they served a search warrant on a boat in the
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harbor of Marina del Ray, which is not far from
Santa Monica. And I mean because they're both right on
the water. Santa Monica's red and water and Marina del Ray,
in fact, it's right next door. It's right next door.
You just keep going south on pch you're gonna you're
gonna hit You're gonna hit Marina del Ray. It's a
(40:43):
it's an expensive area. There's a big dock. They got
the I think they got the LA port there for
you know, for leisure craft and been there several times myself. Anyways,
they did search a boat there on July twenty first.
So this is the ATF, which is deeply involved in
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the investigation Shares homicide assisted by LAPD and that's where
we're at. So that's where we're at on this, and
I just want to say the possible charges they're pursuing
if the person who left that buy they left it
behind one that they stole it. They can't just take
military ordinance. So there's the theft charges, which would be
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federal charges, I would imagine, and the fact that you
stored them the way that you stored them, You stored
them in a hazardous way, and there is a strong
likely outcome that somebody could be hurt by that. So
it's I think negligent homicide is the likely charge depending
on the evidence that rolls, and they could be used
against Hughes against the bad guy who left it there,
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so I think they'll eventually get him. But that's what happened.
I think most people don't understand the risk that law
enforcement takes in general, and they certainly don't understand the
risk that people working bomb squad or ars and explosives
around the country or swat teams take on a day
to day basis. We work really hard to mitigate the risks.
People follow their procedures, but every now and then it
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just doesn't work out. And I can tell you that
this is what's going to happen in my thirty eight
year career in law enforcement. We always learn from our mistakes,
We adjust our policies and procedures, we make changes. We
get teams of people together from all across the country
to they'll talk about this event and they'll see how
do we prevent this from happening in the future, and
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they'll probably adjust their procedures or they'll set some new standards,
and those standards will be set at the federal level,
and probably by the FBI. I think they're the ones
who do the regulatory stuff on bomb squads around the country,
or maybe it's atf I can't remember which one. But
you have to be federly certified to be a bomb squad,
so they have to go through federal certification, and once
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that happens, then hopefully we'll make Unfortunately it has taken
the lives of three people, but we'll we'll learn the
lessons and will help you keep future folks safe from
these explosions. So that's so you know, keep these the
families of these guys in your heart and and and
in your prayers. This is a very tough thing. I
am probably going to go to the funerals if at
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least one of them, if if, if, if, if time allows, Uh,
just because this is such a tragic event. You know,
we have we lose people all the time to suicide
and occasionally killed the line of duty. But this is,
this is this is just terrible. But thank you for
enduring me as I explain what ours and Explosa does
(43:39):
what happened to these guys, and just just keep them
in your thoughts in prayer. Now we had something else.
Oh wait, I think I want to I want to
hear what the sheriff hass to say. This is Sheriff Luna.
I think he acquitted himself quite well talking about the
death of the three of his personnel. Let's let's hear
his comments. Sheriff Luna at the LA kind of Shriff's barment.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
So it is a somewhat of a beautiful day to
day weatherwise, but there's definitely a black cloud hanging over
the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and our county family.
This morning. Shortly after seven thirty am, an explosion occurred
at our Special Enforcement Bureau Arson Explosives Detail facility located
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in the one thousand block of Northeastern Avenue on East
Los Angeles, which is right behind this hill. Tragically, they
were three sworn members who were fatally killed that were
assigned to our Arson Explosives detail. No other department members
were injured or transported to any hospitals. This is unfortunately,
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the largest loss of life for us as the La
County Sheriff's Department since eighteen fifty seven. Between all three
sworn members, they had served our community proudly for seventy
four years. And that's amongst all three of them collectively
nineteen years, twenty two years, and thirty three years. And
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at this point we are not giving out their names.
One of the reasons it took me a while to
get out here. One of my priorities is the families
of our deputies, and I've met with several of them
this morning. There are still others who are on their way.
There are others who have not been notified. The last
(45:36):
thing I want to do is them to turn on
the news and find out that way, So thank you
for respecting that. At this point, my second priority were
our employees. Our employees are hurting right now. Members of
our Special Enforcement Bureau, other members of our Arson detailed
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as well Arson Explosives detail. In regards to the details
of what happened, I'm going to give you what I
have right now. There's a lot more that we don't
know than what we do know, but our intent is
to look at this from the very beginning and figure
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out what is it exactly that caused this tragic event. Currently,
our homicide detectives are unseen and they are investigating the
deaths that are and we are being assisted by the
Federal Bureau of Investigation who are investigating the post blast
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portion of this incident. You have seen other vehicles other
than FBI. You've seen the ATF here. They will be
assisting the FBI as well. I am very grateful to
the bomb Squad of the Los Angeles Police Department, and
I mentioned Chief Jim McDonald standing behind me here. They
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immediately came out to assist after this explosion occurred to
render the devices safe, and just so all of you know,
they were just rendered safe within the last minutes right
before we walked out here. So it was still an
active scene. It wasn't stable and definitely a very active
(47:26):
crime scene. As we go forward at this time. We
do not know the cause of the explosion. However, this
specific area has been closed off due to the ongoing investigation.
We believe there is no threat to this community. Actually
I could tell you there is no threat to this community.
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This is an isolated incident and again no threats. We
have road closures Eastern Boulevard between Blatcherd Street and Lot
of Drive. And again I do want to thank all
of our local partners, our local elected officials that are
here to help us get through this very difficult time.
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We have our Psychological Services Bureau personnel on scene that
are assisting our employees at this moment, along with peer
counseling and chaplain services. And as I said earlier, I
have met with two of the three families thus far,
and as you can imagine, those were extremely challenging conversations.
(48:34):
So anyways, ready for questions.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, you can hear them breaking up there at the end.
I certainly don't know if I'd have gotten through all
that if I was doing that. And we do have
our psychological service and here's one of the things their partners,
the supervisor that was on scene and other folks, they're
going to go through survivor's guilt. They're going to believe,
what could I have done? How come I could have
I have helped, and a lot of it will be illogical,
(49:01):
but they're going to go through anyways, because that's what
happens with cops. Right. I think I got a couple
of minutes, you know, we got five minutes left. I
want to try and talk about one. A letter was
sent by Pam Bondy to the sheriff you just saw him,
and requesting, forcefully requesting that doj requests California sheriffs provide
(49:23):
names of non citizen inmates in the California jail. So
he sent one directly to Sheriff Luna, and I think
it's important that we go over this. What people have
to understand is in La County they decided not to
work with ice at all. There's a state law called
the Values Act that allowed sheriffs to work with ice
in the jails involving serious felonies or serious criminals are
(49:47):
being released from the jail systems, so including La County,
and when I worked there, we did we worked with ice.
And you know, so murderers, rape, this child, blisters, those
kinds of things when they were getting get when they
were leaving, we made sure ICE had the ability to
track the information and we assisted them in getting them
(50:08):
out of our jails or out of the country. Right,
very important because that keeps the helps keeps the community safe.
It's common sense, and I've been talking about on my
show for months. It's common sense to get the serious
criminals who are immigrants out of our communities, send them
back to the countries they came from. Right in, La
County has taken the extreme measure of not working with
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it all. Now, the Values Act allows sheriffs around the
state to work to some degree with ICE. In La
County has decided not to work with ICE. In fact,
the sheriff talked about there's county regulations that doesn't let
me work with ICE. He did do a press conference
on that, and I think that needs to change. You know,
as Pam Bonni said, you know, our country was flooded
(50:50):
with immigrants. Crimes on American soil, including rape, murder, and
other violent crimes have been committed by these immigrants, and
we need to capture them and take them out of
our country. And they're simply requesting data and so far
the sheriff's department has not complied and not worked with them.
They only work with them if there's a federal warrant.
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That means if they decide to go after a federal
charges and there's a just warrant, but they won't work
on them on administrative charges. And here's the thing, you know,
let's let me clarify, and I think I got a
couple of minutes to do. This is when somebody gets arrested,
even when they're just arrested. Let's say they're arrested for homicide,
there's a problem cause declaration that goes to a judge
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to determine that a crime occurred in the person because
he likely did it. So there's already a level of
due process to make sure he's the guy. And with
the Democrats say, I don't know, you can't kick him
out of here unless they're convicted, and then they won't
even work with you once they're convicted to do their
time to help you get them out. And here's the deal.
If they've gone through a process that indicates that they
likely committed a crime, generally under administrative process, which is
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what we do for immigrants, they get administrative process. This
is the same thing of regulatory prosus. You know, if
you want to get a permit, that's a that's an
administrative process.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
And if you want you know, if you have, if
you have, if you deal with the DMV related to registration,
that's an administrative process. And these are these are things
that it's a lower level of evidence needed to take action. Right. So,
since you've already had a proper cause decoration, you've already
had that, there isn't any reason why we can't be
telling the Feds that we got an immigrant to committed
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a murder, uh and to let them know right or
a rape or a robbery or anything like that. But
they've Ellie County and the sheriff have decided they're not
going to do any of that, which just makes us
less safe. And body is saying, you know, we have
a joint obligation to keep your community safe. That's why
you have to work with us. And so far in
Ellie County they're refusing to do that. And she's given
(52:50):
them thirty days to comply, and so we'll see what happens.
I mean, we've got an election coming up. A sheriff
in a Weeva former sheriff in a Weeva is chosen
to run against, so this will likely be an issue.
I've had two candidates on my show. If to go
back and listen to my interview with Oscar Martinez and
Mike Borman. Both those guys are running for sheriff in
La County. I asked them their stance on working with ICE.
(53:12):
They both said they wanted to work with ICE, and
in fact, Oscar Martinez is a former migrant and he says, yeah,
we absolutely have to work with ICE because it's my
community that suffers when you let a Latino migrant back
into the community, go to the Latino community, and they
victimize the Latinos primarily. So for him, it's just common sense. Yes,
(53:34):
let's get rid of the worst of the worst. Let's
make it safe. And if they do that, you'll see
less teams on the street in La You'll see less
conflict on the streets in a light. But this is
by design. Don't work with them, make Ice do it
the hard way, and then point fingers at ICE and
say they're all bad guys for doing it the hard
way instead of just working with them, right, which is
all Bondie is asking. So I'm looking for our local
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leaders to actually start working with Pam Boni. Hopefully she'll
keep the pressure on. Hey, thank you for joining me
with briefing with the Chief today. I just want to
remind you guys. Catch me next Wednesday. I'm gonna we've
got a Roman gask you back. He's coming back. He's
running for office. We're gonna talk about some crime stuff
in Michigan. See what he thinks, See what his positions are,
you know, see if he's up to up the snuff
on there. And so that will be fun and uh,
(54:17):
you know, so I'm looking forward to that. So go
back and listen to last week's show. That was Sheriff Swank.
He's up in Washington County and Washington the Piers Piers County, Washington.
He's trying to work with ice up there. They won't
let him work with up today. As he said, we're
farther left in California. It's hard for me to believe,
but it might be so. Anyways, thank you for joining
me with briefing on the Chief. And catch us next
(54:37):
every Wednesday at five pm Eastern Standard time. And like
I said, next week we'll be talking to Roman Gasky
and Amanda, you can take it away.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
Uh.
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I do a movie review every Tuesday, and I post
that show on Twitter as well. And I think we
(01:54):
just did Dark Blue, a movie about corruption in the
Lapit fictional movie about Coruction LPD during the Rodney King
Riot's era. I had a couple of retirees with me.
We had a great time, and I do a lot
more fun on that show. I used to get a
little more political on that show, but now that I
got this outlet briefly with the Chief, I don't have
to be so political on that one. We just have
a good time and talk about movie making as it
(02:15):
relates to law enforcement and crime, and it's a lot
of fun. So check out pop Culture Minefield Morning Coffee
with the Chief. That's the name of that show, and
I do that every Tuesday at eight am Pacific standard time.
So check that out. But today we're going to talk
about three heroes. These are the three men who were
(02:37):
killed July seventeenth ur July eighteenth in the LA area.
They were members of the Los Angeles County Shriff's Arson
Explosives team. They died well handling or dealing with some
found military ordinance. And we'll go over all of that
just to explain it so that everybody's up to speed.
But we'll talk about the team itself, what they do,
(02:57):
how highly trained they are, and then I'll go through
it timeline of what actually happened. But before we do that,
I'm gonna I'm gonna con gill you our series of
Newsom's lies. You know, now, I last week I did
a bit about I'm just gonna every week I'm gonna
do a little bit about Newsom's lives because he lies
so much, and he's he is fancies himself as a
(03:21):
presidential candidate, and I can't believe that somebody lies so
much actually believes that he has a chance. And so
I decided. Being in California, you know, we know his
lies here, and of course he still keeps getting elected.
That drives me crazy because I've never voted for the man.
But I just want to let the people out there
are people in the USA that are going to vote
(03:44):
in the primaries if he Avenuwsom's on the ballot, that
you really know what you're getting into with him. There's
so many areas I could do, you know, twenty shows
on the failed public policies. I just really want to
talk about the lies because the lies really frame who
he is. And now last week's lie was he said
(04:05):
that the oil companies are gouging in California, and he's
been saying that for ten years. Oil companies, big oil
is gouging California, and I talked about last week that
it was actually a study that came out from USC
that says, no, it's not gouging. It's taxes being placed
on gas at the pump and regulation being put in
(04:28):
place by California government. These regulatory bodies that are all
appointed by Newsome, and that includes the Air Quality manastraction
in southern California, air Quality Management which puts the restriction
on these oil companies, and other regulatory agencies that increase
the cost of operating in California so much. Because they
want net carbon zero, they don't want any fossil fuels
(04:51):
being used in California, and so they're driving them out.
In fact, two refiners I think we have seven. They
used to have like up to thirty, but we have
seven left and two of them have indicated they're going
to leave next year, and we are actually facing potentially
eight dollars and fifty cents per gallon in California. We
already have either the highest or the number two gas
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prices in the country. You know, we're competing with Hawaii,
which is an island and it has to have all
their oil pumped in. Now, I keep in mind, California
at one time it was the oil boom state. At
the turn of the last century, it was the oil
boom state. A lot of people make a lot of
money pump and oil. And we still had a lot
of pumps going in California, but they're gradually getting shut
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down by Newsom and its regulatory policies, which means the
price of fuel is going up. So we debunked that lie.
He's lying. USC put out a study. Finally, somebody put
out of study. Now anybody had a vacant basic economics
class understood that Newsom was lying, But he and the
entire legislature continued to propagate this lie to convince people
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that the oil prices weren't going up because of bad policy,
but they were going up because of big oil. Well
that's a lie. The next lie I wanted to talk
about is is the Latin x you know here here
in Californian around the country, you know, but mostly in
California or anywhere you had a large Latino community. We
had to go through this exercise of political correctness on
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how you call people, right, it's part of this this
cultural Marxism. You know, we can't we can't have the
patriarchy or any indication of a patriarchy in our language.
We can't. We shouldn't be referring to anything in terms
of gender, male or female. We need to purge that
out of our language. And you know, you have to
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ask people what their pronouns are. You can't just assume
just because they look like a guy that you address
them as a guy. You and so you have to
use this gender neutral language. Well that's a problem in California.
So because California we have a very large Latino population
and in La County it's fifty percent Latino, and so
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they're a big part of our population. And so these
radical leftists has decided that we're not going to use Latino.
So let me explain. So in the Spanish language, you
you when you when you speak Spanish, there's gender there general,
there's words based on gender. So there's male and female words.
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You know, they have the gender. So Latino is considered
the mash glin or the male version for for Latino
and Latina is for women. Right. So if you're dressing,
so here's how it works. So if if you're if
you are dressing a room full of people and they're
all Latinos, you're gonna say los Latinos, right, You're gonna say, oh, lah,
los latinos, Uh, welcome to the meeting whatever. Right, So
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you're going to talk to all of them men and women,
they're gonna call lost latinos latinos, right or who knows Latinos,
who knows Latinos, right, So that's how you're gonna call them. However,
if you're dressing, and if you're dressing a room full
of male Latinos, you're gonna say same thing, lost Latinos.
So when you're dealing with the male and female of
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the Spanish language, if it's men and women, you use
the masculine version. If it's just men, use the masculine version.
If now, if it's all women, it's last latinas, right,
so you use the female version. Right. Well, the radical
Marxist decided, well, we can't have any of that, we
can't have any of that. We got to use latin X.
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So you take off the O and you just put
an X in there oor a just put an X
in there. Now, here's the deal. They most Latinos didn't
like this. You see, this is part of their culture.
They grew up in Mexico or Guatemala or Hernette or
Honduiters or San Salvador, and they speak Spanish and their
language is part of their culture. It's it's it's weaved
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into their culture where they use where they use the
male and feminine versions of their language to address their
their abuela that's their grandma, their abuilo that's their grandfather,
their you know so, and and and it's part of
their culture. You know, miho is is kind of a
slang version for my son. Miha is kind of a
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slang version for their daughter. They don't want to say
me x, they want to say meho. It's actually it's
it's a slang version. It's me eho is my son, right,
me eha is my daughter? And so. But these cultural Marxists,
most of them are white, have decided we can't do that.
We have to start calling everybody latenx and so Gavin
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Newsom picked that up and he started doing that. Now
this is far left stuff, right, and this just leads
into the lie, and and and so he started using that.
And then when he got called on it later when
it wasn't popular, when he's trying to go to the middle,
he gets called on it later and he denies that
he did it. He denies that he was doing it.
(09:52):
Let's roll the video another Gaven Newsom lie.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
By the way, Now, one person ever in my office
has ever used the word latin ex.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
We finally put that to bed. We did find somebody
who used it repeatedly in his office. Let's take a
listen to this.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I hope we can really paint a picture in terms
of our consciousness of how impactful this has been on
the LATINX community. LATINX community, the LATINX and black communities
got politicians that are banning not assault rifles, but the
word LATINX.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
They're not even serious. It is all created by the left.
Lest they do what lest they give a gender to
the word describing a Latin person, Latino or Latina. But
that's the way Spanish is made. Spanish is male and female.
There's nothing you can do about it. LATINX is absurd.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, it's absurd. So I hear so hereot he denied
in the original clip on CNN, he denied that anybody
in his administration has used latin X. He's so he's
moon walking away from those comments. And uh and then
these news orders was great. They put him up there
(11:03):
on several occasions using latin X, denying that. First he
denies he used it, then they showed clips of amusing
it and how important it is, and then he can
bemoan that the Republicans are trying to trying to ban
the word of latin X. So first he supports it,
supports it before he doesn't support it, and and yeah,
(11:26):
so this is this is why you can't trust Gavenusom.
This is why. I mean, I know this seems pretty simple,
but this is this is out reminds you saying, you
know what, I thought that maybe that was the right
thing to do, but the Latino community didn't like it.
So you know what, I'm going to do what the
Latino community wants. I hear them loud and clear, I understand.
I don't just deny it, just say yeah, I went
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along with it because it seemed like the right thing
to do, but you know, the Latino community didn't like it,
and that's a failure. He could have just said that's
a failure on my part. I should have listened to
the Latino community. And you know, our produce, my producer
here has brought up, you know, the Spanish is part
of the Romantic language group, right, it's a Latin, and
you've got French, and you've got Spanish and and and
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and and so that's part of this, this this group
of Romantic languages that have been around for thousands of years.
Obviously the Romans, uh talked in Latin, you know, and uh, well,
we've got French and we got Spanish, you know. And
the number two and three largest language spoken around around
the world besides English is Spanish and French. Both of
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them used this. And so we're gonna we're gonna tell
the Spanish culture and the French culture that they need
to reject all that and embrace this new hard left
ideology in which we don't recognize genders and we don't
focus on it and and and it goes crazy here
in California because so this for me, this is this
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this lie. I got more lies coming from him, but
this is outrageous because this was an easy thing. Yeah,
I did that. I've listened to Latino community. They don't
like it, they don't use it. I hear my voters
loud and clear. I hear the people loud and clear,
and I've changed. I agree in hindsight it was ridiculous.
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Can't say that, can admit he is wrong, right canonm
he is wrong. And so this is what drives your curating.
But here's here's the other thing. You know, I don't
know if you've noticed, but over the last six years,
or maybe his last ten years, even in the newspapers,
everybody suddenly everybody's a partner. They're not a husband, they're
a wife. They're a partner. If you notice that, like
I read the La Times or something like that, and
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you know, Pat Jordan's partner, What the hell does that mean?
You know, he's been living with his partner, they've been
together for eight years. You know, they don't even say
marriage their partner. And what drives me crazy is I
don't want to be called a partner. I want to
be called a husband. I want my wife to be
called the wife. That's what she prefers. But we can't
do that because these leftists have captured our culture. In in
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addition to the Latino culture, and demanding that all of
this gender neutral nonsense and that we use that when
referring to each other. Now, the Latino is, the Mexican community,
the Guatemalans, the Hounduran. They rejected all this nonsense. They
don't like any of this nonsense. Maybe that's one of
the reasons why more Latinos voted for Trump this pastime around,
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because they don't like the nonsense. But this is this
is the latest lie. And I just I did need
to point out that Gavin Newsome they refer to her
his wife as the first partner. What a bunch of nonsense. Now,
I have to say, at least, at least at the
federal level. You know, they still call the first lady
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the first lady. And you know, when Camello was in office,
they called her husband the second Gentleman. So they still
embraced masculine and feminine titles for the first lady. And
when we had a guy who was the second gentleman,
the second gentleman. So at least they understand that that's nonsense,
or probably more importantly, they understand that they would turn
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off a whole bunch of voters by embracing that nonsense.
At the federal level, and here Gavin Newsom embraces it.
This is why and he lies about it. This is
why he can't be our next president. So I hope
that's a fun factoid for you as you as you
deal with and try to understand why Gavin Newsom is
somebody you can't be followed. Now, I want to remind
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you guys, we are playing on Rumble, and I just
want to remind you folks that we're building our audience
there and you guys need to follow us there, follow
us on Rumble. Now that the next thing, I'm going
to do two things on Gavin Newsom. And I referenced
last year or last week that Gavin Newsom had cheated
on his best friend, and I found a clip. I
just want to show that this is where he apologizes
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for cheating on his best friend. And this is when
he was the mayor of San Francisco. Now for me,
you know, you know I don't I wouldn't ever cheat
on my best friend, right, I wouldn't cheat it with
his wife. You know, That's what he did. He cheated
with his best friends wife. And the guy was his
campaign manager, so he was also an employee technically and
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and I just think that to me, that that is outrageous.
This means the guy can't be tryed. If you can't
even have some reverence for the for the marriage of
and the bond between your best friend and his wife,
how can you be trusted for anything but here in California.
You know, none of that, None of that stopped him
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because he you know, he's a wealthy guy and he's
he's on a path. This was just a speed bump
for him to eventually be governor. Had a lot of
money behind him. You know, he went to George Soros's
wedding in twenty fourteen, so he's connected and he got
the money he needed just get into office and stay
in office. As a recall, but I wanted to roll
this video so that you know what I'm talking about.
You could do your own research on him. Let's roll it.
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The betrayal, his betrayal.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Thank you all for coming here and short notice. I
want to make a clue that everything you've heard and
read is true, and I am deeply sorry about that.
I've heard someone I care deeply about, Alex Turk, his
friends and family, and that is something that I have
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to live with and something that I am deeply sorry for.
I am also sorry that I've let the people of
San Francisco down. They expect a lot of their mayor,
and my personal lapse of judgment aside. I am committed
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to restoring their trust and confidence and will work very
hard in the upcoming months to make sure that the
business of running the city is framed appropriately. I also
want to extend a personal apology to everyone in our administration,
to my staff that I just met with, to my
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friends and.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
My family members.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I am deeply sorry and am accountable for what has occurred,
and have now begun the process of reconciling it. And
now we'll be working aggressively to advance our agenda in
the city and to work hard to build again the
(18:27):
trust and restore the trust that the people of San
Francisco have afforded me. I appreciate everyone taking the time
to be here today. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, there you go. So the betrayal of his friend,
the betrayal of his family, portrayal of the citizens of
San Francisco just a speed bump for him. Because he
had big money behind him, influential guy connected to the
Getty family. He was going to move forward. He knew it,
you know, he obviously he was contrite there, but you
know that was a performance. This is not a guy,
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you know, because you know if you get caught in
something like that, that you're going to be very careful
on what you do and you're going to avoid those
things that reflect on your character. But he's not really
worried about character. He just has to get past this
one event where he portrayed his best friend and he
just blew it. But he knew he could get past this, right,
And he continues to lie. Like we said, he lied
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about Big Oil, he lied about Latin X. I mean,
what else won't this guy lie about? So this is
not a guy that has the values and the integrity
that we need as a president of the United States.
I mean I didn't vote for the guy at all
for governor, and I can't wait till he's out of office.
And you know, as my producer says, I can't believe
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they voted this guy after this, Yeah, that's right. Can't
believe he advanced after this. Yeah, I have a hard
time believe in it too. But you know what, the
mainstream media after this happened and hit the news, not
once was it mentioned as he ran for governor. Not
once did they do this because they had already picked
who they wanted to He was the Democrat choice and
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they were going to hide all of his dirt. They
weren't going to make an issue of it because you
know what, you know, we had a mayor here in
La and he cheated on his wife, Antonio Vieta, Great Radagosa.
He cheated on his wife with a beautiful news reporter,
and that impacted his vote for the Latinas when he
ran for governor. That that impacted his vote. So had
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had had had the news actually put out there that
that Gavin Newsom, you know, betrayed his best friend by
sleeping with his best friend's wife then destroyed that relationship.
I wonder if that would have hurt him with the
voters too. But you know what, the media decided not
to print that, not not to go forward with that
because he's there. Guy. Okay, that's enough with Gavin Newsom
(20:44):
for today. Let's get onto our three heroes. You know,
it's an event that happened in La County. This is
the explosion that killed three detectives in La County. I'm
gonna go through a timeline. But before I do that,
I want to talk a little bit about the unit
that we're talking about. These men were all part of
the Arson explosives units for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department,
and on July eighteenth, they died in an explosion as
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they were attempting to examine. I thought, render safe that.
You know. I'll give you a little more detail here
in a minute, but I wanted to talk about the
unit itself, the breath of their responsibility, so that you
understand these guys were highly trained folks. It's a very
small community of people around the country that do bomb
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I don't want to say bomb mitigation or bomb disposal.
You know, and you know the movies where they have
the guy disarming the bomb, you know, that's not really
what happens with these guys. They have protocols that have
been developed over decades based upon lessons learned from events
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that have gone bad. They constantly are learning, they're constantly training.
They put procedures in place. They jealously abide by those
procedures to everybody safe because they're dealing with explosives, sometimes
big explosives, sometimes small explosives. But they deal with them
on a day to day basis. Not this team. It's
relatively small team. I don't know how many members are
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part of the team, but it's not super big. Maybe
a dozen or fifteen folks. And they're actually a detail,
so they're not really a bureau. They're a detail. They're
part of our Special Enforcement Bureau, which is just a
collection of specialty teams, including the SWAT Team and the
Emergency Services Detail, which does you know, out and rescue
and high angle rescue, a lot of cool stuff. I
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worked with those guys in the port. I didn't jump
out of the helicarpters they did. I just worked with
them as part of a search and rescue team. Great guys,
good guys. They're all committed to their job and they're
all excellent. These guys fly all over the country to
give training. That's how good they are. And the reason
why they're One of the reasons why they're so good
is they service an area the four thousand square miles
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of La County minus the city of l A, so
that's ten million people. City of LA has their own
bombed bomb bomb squad. Very excellent team as well, top
notch one of the best in the countries as well,
and La City services four million people. The La County
sheriff Apartment's Bomb Squad services six million people because in
addition to the sheriff the areas that the Sheriff polices,
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they provide the support for any of the other other
police departments in La County, smaller ones that don't have
that capacity or can't can't do that expense, so they
provide it as part of the county wide services that
the county gives to all the cities in La County,
so that that gives them a population of six million
people who they're who they're protecting by doing bomb mitigations
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and other things. Now they you're here by the title
it's arson explosives. Lots of times you'll see here the
bomb Squad, but in La County it's arson explosives. So
they do a broader array of things. I'm just going
to go through it because so they understand this is
what they deal with every day, this is why their
job is such a dangerous job. And I was really
happy to see the politicians come out because you know,
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they've been anti comp for a long time, and of
course they recognized that this was a terrible event, and
they expressed, and it takes some comfort in that, although
why can't we do this, Why can't you have the
same kind of support every day. Doesn't really take three
people to die before you have this kind of support,
give this kind of support to law enforcement. But these
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guys investigate our sends, bombings, burgaries where explosives are taken
or a magazine is victimized. What they mean by that
is construction sites sometimes use explosives and has charges, and
other industries use explosives, so they'll have what they call
a magazine a place where they actually store the explosives
that they using construction or whatever it is. And if
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anything's stolen out of those magazines, then arsenal explosives will
investigate that right and they'll do disastrous fires. So the
recent fires here in La County, so the ones in
Eaton Canyon would have been solely theirs because it was
all in the county the area. They would probably assist
with the Palisades fire because it started an LAPD's area
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and went over to Malibu, so they would assist as
needed in that one. They would handle the arson investigations
in Eaton Canyon. So some of the fire departments also
have arson investigators, so they would work closely with those
arson investigators. Another again, another small group of people who
specialize in a very particular type of investigation, and they
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travel around the country training and getting training from this
small population of folks. Now, they'll also investigate any explosions
or explosion caused by explosion. There are others some naturally
occurring stuff that were causes explosions, they would probably roll
and write a report on that. But the explosion by explosives,
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they would do that investigation as well. Except fireworks they
don't really do. They'll investigate any explosives, but not fireworks.
They will look forward what causes the fires that damage
public utilities, public property, or causes any personal injury, so
you know, you know, accounty building, any public infrastructure, or
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a fire where there's personal injury. Right, If there's a homicide,
then homicide would take the lead and arsenal explosives would
probably assist in that. They give the specialty information to homicide,
but homicide would take the lead as they are in
this case the death of these three guys. They would
also investigate any fires that cause seventy five hundred dollars
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worth damage, which is almost everything. Maybe not a trash
fire or dumpster fire, but just about anything where that
gets lit on fire intentionally is going to cost seventy
five hundred dollars damage. That's a low threshold, so busy.
That means they're a busy, busy team, right and centiary devices,
illegal manufacturer and sale and possession of fully automatic weapons,
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heavy weapons greater than sixty caliber, and silencers. They will
also investigate the illegal manufacturer and sale and possession of bombs,
explosives and destructive devices, illegal manufacturer of fireworks like fireworks factories,
and any series or patterns in which there's in it
that any of the crimes above would would occur. So
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if there's a series of burglaries of magazines, they would
they'd investigate that, right so, because it indicates something bigger
is going on when you have a series like that.
So that's what they do, right, And this is a
lot of the stuff is dangerous stuff. Some of us
just straight investigation, but some of it is dangerous because
you're handling really dangerous material. And they also have responsibility
on the department to store and dispose of found abandoned
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and surrendered explosives which is and explicit devices, which is
what we're talking about here. This is found explosives, which
will get into a minute process requests to assign and
stamp serial numbers and handguns on long guns, so sometimes
you got a gun that doesn't have a serial number
and they would get that serial number and do it.
So they work closely with the ATF ALCOHOL to back
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on firearms, the federal folks and to do that kind
of stuff. And let's see, they will collect, preserve, and
analyze any evidence for presentation of court. So if there's
an explosive or a fire and let's say it was
an arson and there's an accelerant, they're going to collect
the evidence and store that in the appropriate place so
that they can later use that for a prosecution. Act
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as advisors too and instructors for the training academy, the
staff regarding arson explosives training for the department, and they
do this throughout the county. So we do training in
our academy, but they will go to smaller agencies and
do training as well, and they'll go around the country
and do specialized training for other members of the arson
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explosives community. They will do the safe handling large catches
of fireworks. So if you get like we had one
here in La I guess a year and a half ago,
large catch of fireworks and they kind of blew it
how they handle it ended up destroying some houses. Lap's
bomb squad did. But that's a similar role. Hopefully we
will have it better when we face that issue. Act
as liaisons for local members of the FBI. FBI's Nuclear
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Response and Electronic Countermeasures Team. Yeah, I advised on that
before I retired a long time ago, very six months,
and then I was out of that job. So interesting stuff.
So that's a anti terrorism nexus when you talk about
that stuff. The goal is to create monitoring so that
you can disrupt any material coming into the region that
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could be used for inappropriate purposes. So we've got a
broad range of responsibility. Some of this stuff is very dangerous,
but this is what these guys do and it takes
a high degree of skill set for these guys who
are killed last week on the eighteenth. So they're constantly
training and their constantly working maintain a cadre of explosives
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and accelerant detection canine. So they trained the bomb detection
canines make sure they're trained and they do their certification.
I had I think thirteen that worked for me, and
we had to work closely with them. When I was
the chief of La Transit and we had our own
bomb detection canine program, we work closely with them and
that takes It's a lot of training that goes along
with the dogs. Got to train, got to get They
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got to train almost weekly to maintain their skill sets.
It's a perishable skill. So you can see just to
do this very narrow slice of keeping the community safe
from explosives is a huge effort, and it's done by
a very small group of people, which is why this
is so tragic, right know, counting how many lives they
saved in the course of their duties and the course
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of their career assisting people in this area, and then
conduct protective detection sweeps for high profile events. So when
you know, presidents come to down, we'll sweep areas. Obviously,
the FEDS will do their own thing as well, maybe
like Benjamin nettan Yah who he became a town we
would do something for him just because of the threat level.
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But that's the kind of thing that they do. And
so I want people to understand what we're talking about.
These are highly trained guys, highly capable guys who put
their lives at risk over and over again. And that's
who these guys are, That's what they did. Let's talk
about the timeline, but well, you know, let's roll the
video first and then I'll get into the timeline.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Live breaking news.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Good Friday morning to you. I'm Rachel Brown. We begin
with breaking news in Monterey Park where it's been a
deadly explosion Scott Rifle.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah, I'm Rachel. Tragic incident here at the SEB compound
of the Ela County Show's Department. It looks like this
explosion occurred in the lot where they house the bomb squad.
It happened around seven to twenty this morning. We were
overhead around seven thirty and it appeared we could see
at least three people had been killed. We don't have confirmation,
but it did look like all three more than likely
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La County Sheriff's deputies. Exactly what went wrong, we have
no idea at this point in time. We're not getting
any information from the Sheriff's Department or from the fire department.
LAPED has actually sent their bomb squad to the scene.
We saw a pretty good sized explosion blow out all
the windows of the patrol cars to see in the
front of your screen there, But it looks like the
explosion occurred off of a ramp from one of the
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bomb squad vehicles and sadly killed those three individuals. Right now,
we're trying to get more information as to what may
have happened, but certainly it's unprecedented. We haven't seen something
like this at the Sheriff's Department bomb squad ever in
my experience, and certainly there'll be a long playing investigation.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Rachel Okay, Scott, thank you awful story that we'll continue
to follow all morning long.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, so that was actually July eighteenth, that seven thirty
in the morning, but there was some activity that Basically
what happened is as I talked about, they get calls
for bombs that are found, and they also get calls
for what turned out to be military ordinance that is found.
Not an uncommon call here in La County, probably not
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an uncommon call in the city of La and I
imagine a lot of major cities they get this kind
of call fairly regularly. You know, I don't want to
say it's every day, but it is frequent enough that
we can say it's not an oddity. And so they
got a call of some grenades or a military ordinance
that was found in a storage unit and an apartment
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building in the city of Santa Monica. So the city
of Santa Monica is one of the eighty eight cities
in La County. It's a beach city. It's adjacent to
the city of Malibu, and so they just responded. They
responded like they normally do, and they found it, recognized
it as ordinances. I did hear that. They called for
the military to come pick it up, but they wouldn't
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be able to get out there till the morning, and
so they seize this. It was actually in a storage
unit for a rental unit. And you know in Santa
Monica have a lot of apartments, so some of them
are old style, so they'll have the apartment and then
you'll have like a storage unit above where you park
your car and a car port, and it could be
something like that. So it was left behind by a
previous tenant and some lady was cleaning out the storage unit.
(34:13):
She obviously wanted to use it, and she found it
and she called the Santa Monica Police who called Daily
County Sheriff's Department. So they found this stuff, they act
rated and then they transferred it back to Biscalue Center.
So when you were watching, you saw a helicopter taking
a picture of where the explosions. And basically it was
a multi acre compound that has the Sheriff's jail, the
(34:35):
Sheriff's Memorial, a pistol range. It also houses the Sheriff's
Swat team, the bomb squad, has a bunch of classrooms.
So we'll do a lot of obviously we'll do training
for the cadets, but we'll also do training for advanced
officer training. So I've been there numerous times myself. In fact,
that's where I went through the academy in nineteen eighty three.
They closed that academy for a while and reopened it
(34:58):
maybe about ten years ago. And it's right in the
city of East of La It's in the East of
La so it's unincorporated area of La County in East
Los Angeles. So at seven thirty the explosion occurred at
the Biscolue Training Center and the blast killed three veterans.
Detectives Joshua Kelly Ecklund, Victor Limas, and William Osborne. Now
(35:24):
there's a picture of them that the headline said the
best of the best. Yeah, that's absolutely true. This is
from Los Angeles time. What we know about the three
LA County Sheriff's detectives killed in explosion inside, I won't
go too much into these guys all had stellar careers.
One was a thirty three year veteran, another twenty two
year veteran, another nineteen year veteran. One was the father
(35:45):
of seven, another was the father of six, and the
third was a father of three. Very experienced guys, stellar careers,
family men obviously, and they leave behind very large families,
which is very very so you know, I actually forgot
to get the link for the donations. See if I
(36:05):
can't get that for next show, and I'll put it
up there as you guys listen. The deputies had X
rayed the material that the grenades that they had found
and believed them to be inert. So basically, they act
rayed them and they believed that the explosive material was
not in there, and they used the word it's inert,
So they basically thought they were safe, and obviously they're
(36:26):
gonna be looking at the processes that they went through.
And remember these are process oriented people. That's what Arson
explosives and the bomb squatter is all about. They go
through their check off list, they monitored all the time.
It's constant. I had them on the trans system all
the time because we get these suspicious packages and they
have a very methodical way that they handle it. And
(36:47):
I'm confident that this and they did everything that they
were supposed to do on this event. But they actually
did believed they were inert and took them back to
the training center around seven thirty in the morning, they
begin to cut one up, cut cut into one to
examine it, and it exploded and killed all three of them.
(37:08):
I have no idea if these were actually the detectives
responded to Santa Monica or they were just uh mitigating
the explosives next. I'm not sure if that if that's
what happened, I guess we'll have to wait for more
information come out, but I know that we have three
people that are dead. They may be the guys who
responded to They probably had the most information as to
(37:28):
what was happening. So the HF, the FBI, sheriffs homicide
and with the assistants of l APED got to reconstruct
all of this right to figure out what happened. They
got to do it for two reasons. They got to
figure Okay, they followed the procedures, so we have to
If they follow the procedures and this led to the
death of three people, then we need to look at
national standards for how we handled explosive devices so that
(37:51):
this strategy doesn't happen in the future. And they just
wanted or was there a breakdown or and they all
want to investigate where did this come from? Which is
what is going on right now. They're investigating where this
came from for us, for the La County Sheriff's from
that is my old department. This is the largest deadliest
day in terms of the loss of personnel for the
(38:13):
La County Sheriff's farm since eighteen fifty seven. Most people
don't know, but La County actually formed in eighteen fifty.
In eighteen fifty seven, I think was Sheriff Barton was
leading a posse after some thieves and they got ambushed
and so he and several members of his posse were killed.
(38:35):
La County used to go from Ventura I used to
go all the way down to the border. It was huge,
and then gradually more and more counties formed in La
County shrank and size to where it's only four thousand
square miles with ten million residents. But it used to
be huge, and we had multiple fatalities in eighteen fifty seven.
(38:56):
This is the first time we've had three. This has
been the worst since nineteen fifty seven. Now, the FBI
and the ATF joined the investigation, and the AHF alcohol, tobacco,
and firearms. This is this is rating there Bailey Wick
the FBI, we'd probably join to see if there's any
nexus to terrorism. Additional searches were conducted in the city
(39:17):
of Santa Monica, so they went back to the original
location to see if they can get more information. Obviously
identify who left it there, since its military ordinance and
there's an indication that the person who lived in this
apartment was affiliated to the military. We're going to eventually
bring in the military to figure out where was this
stuff taken from. Most of the stuff has zero numbers,
(39:38):
so it could be traced, and I think I think
Amanda found the link for there we go. Watchthree dot
Com Watch three dot com so you can make a
donation to the families of the men who were killed.
It was just awesome, though, this is this is okay,
(40:00):
so thank you, and so they'll look at any And
they did get a lead. And so this is on
January twenty first, So they went back to do the
investigation in Santa Monica on on the on the July nineteenth, right,
so pretty quick and and they got a lead and
they served a search warrant on a boat in the
(40:22):
harbor of Marina del Ray, which is not far from
Santa Monica. And I mean because they're both right on
the water. Santa Monica's red and water and Marina del Ray,
in fact, it's right next door. It's right next door.
You just keep going south on pch you're gonna you're
gonna hit You're gonna hit Marina del Ray. It's a
(40:43):
it's an expensive area. There's a big dock. They got
the I think they got the LA port there for
you know, for leisure craft and been there several times myself. Anyways,
they did search a boat there on July twenty first.
So this is the ATF, which is deeply involved in
(41:04):
the investigation Shares homicide assisted by LAPD and that's where
we're at. So that's where we're at on this, and
I just want to say the possible charges they're pursuing
if the person who left that buy they left it
behind one that they stole it. They can't just take
military ordinance. So there's the theft charges, which would be
(41:25):
federal charges, I would imagine, and the fact that you
stored them the way that you stored them, You stored
them in a hazardous way, and there is a strong
likely outcome that somebody could be hurt by that. So
it's I think negligent homicide is the likely charge depending
on the evidence that rolls, and they could be used
against Hughes against the bad guy who left it there,
(41:48):
so I think they'll eventually get him. But that's what happened.
I think most people don't understand the risk that law
enforcement takes in general, and they certainly don't understand the
risk that people working bomb squad or ars and explosives
around the country or swat teams take on a day
to day basis. We work really hard to mitigate the risks.
People follow their procedures, but every now and then it
(42:11):
just doesn't work out. And I can tell you that
this is what's going to happen in my thirty eight
year career in law enforcement. We always learn from our mistakes,
We adjust our policies and procedures, we make changes. We
get teams of people together from all across the country
to they'll talk about this event and they'll see how
do we prevent this from happening in the future, and
(42:32):
they'll probably adjust their procedures or they'll set some new standards,
and those standards will be set at the federal level,
and probably by the FBI. I think they're the ones
who do the regulatory stuff on bomb squads around the country,
or maybe it's atf I can't remember which one. But
you have to be federly certified to be a bomb squad,
so they have to go through federal certification, and once
(42:55):
that happens, then hopefully we'll make Unfortunately it has taken
the lives of three people, but we'll we'll learn the
lessons and will help you keep future folks safe from
these explosions. So that's so you know, keep these the
families of these guys in your heart and and and
in your prayers. This is a very tough thing. I
am probably going to go to the funerals if at
(43:18):
least one of them, if if, if, if, if time allows, Uh,
just because this is such a tragic event. You know,
we have we lose people all the time to suicide
and occasionally killed the line of duty. But this is,
this is this is just terrible. But thank you for
enduring me as I explain what ours and Explosa does
(43:39):
what happened to these guys, and just just keep them
in your thoughts in prayer. Now we had something else.
Oh wait, I think I want to I want to
hear what the sheriff hass to say. This is Sheriff Luna.
I think he acquitted himself quite well talking about the
death of the three of his personnel. Let's let's hear
his comments. Sheriff Luna at the LA kind of Shriff's barment.
Speaker 6 (43:59):
So it is a somewhat of a beautiful day to
day weatherwise, but there's definitely a black cloud hanging over
the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department and our county family.
This morning. Shortly after seven thirty am, an explosion occurred
at our Special Enforcement Bureau Arson Explosives Detail facility located
(44:21):
in the one thousand block of Northeastern Avenue on East
Los Angeles, which is right behind this hill. Tragically, they
were three sworn members who were fatally killed that were
assigned to our Arson Explosives detail. No other department members
were injured or transported to any hospitals. This is unfortunately,
(44:48):
the largest loss of life for us as the La
County Sheriff's Department since eighteen fifty seven. Between all three
sworn members, they had served our community proudly for seventy
four years. And that's amongst all three of them collectively
nineteen years, twenty two years, and thirty three years. And
(45:13):
at this point we are not giving out their names.
One of the reasons it took me a while to
get out here. One of my priorities is the families
of our deputies, and I've met with several of them
this morning. There are still others who are on their way.
There are others who have not been notified. The last
(45:36):
thing I want to do is them to turn on
the news and find out that way, So thank you
for respecting that. At this point, my second priority were
our employees. Our employees are hurting right now. Members of
our Special Enforcement Bureau, other members of our Arson detailed
(45:56):
as well Arson Explosives detail. In regards to the details
of what happened, I'm going to give you what I
have right now. There's a lot more that we don't
know than what we do know, but our intent is
to look at this from the very beginning and figure
(46:18):
out what is it exactly that caused this tragic event. Currently,
our homicide detectives are unseen and they are investigating the
deaths that are and we are being assisted by the
Federal Bureau of Investigation who are investigating the post blast
(46:40):
portion of this incident. You have seen other vehicles other
than FBI. You've seen the ATF here. They will be
assisting the FBI as well. I am very grateful to
the bomb Squad of the Los Angeles Police Department, and
I mentioned Chief Jim McDonald standing behind me here. They
(47:02):
immediately came out to assist after this explosion occurred to
render the devices safe, and just so all of you know,
they were just rendered safe within the last minutes right
before we walked out here. So it was still an
active scene. It wasn't stable and definitely a very active
(47:26):
crime scene. As we go forward at this time. We
do not know the cause of the explosion. However, this
specific area has been closed off due to the ongoing investigation.
We believe there is no threat to this community. Actually
I could tell you there is no threat to this community.
(47:48):
This is an isolated incident and again no threats. We
have road closures Eastern Boulevard between Blatcherd Street and Lot
of Drive. And again I do want to thank all
of our local partners, our local elected officials that are
here to help us get through this very difficult time.
(48:12):
We have our Psychological Services Bureau personnel on scene that
are assisting our employees at this moment, along with peer
counseling and chaplain services. And as I said earlier, I
have met with two of the three families thus far,
and as you can imagine, those were extremely challenging conversations.
(48:34):
So anyways, ready for questions.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Yeah, you can hear them breaking up there at the end.
I certainly don't know if I'd have gotten through all
that if I was doing that. And we do have
our psychological service and here's one of the things their partners,
the supervisor that was on scene and other folks, they're
going to go through survivor's guilt. They're going to believe,
what could I have done? How come I could have
I have helped, and a lot of it will be illogical,
(49:01):
but they're going to go through anyways, because that's what
happens with cops. Right. I think I got a couple
of minutes, you know, we got five minutes left. I
want to try and talk about one. A letter was
sent by Pam Bondy to the sheriff you just saw him,
and requesting, forcefully requesting that doj requests California sheriffs provide
(49:23):
names of non citizen inmates in the California jail. So
he sent one directly to Sheriff Luna, and I think
it's important that we go over this. What people have
to understand is in La County they decided not to
work with ice at all. There's a state law called
the Values Act that allowed sheriffs to work with ice
in the jails involving serious felonies or serious criminals are
(49:47):
being released from the jail systems, so including La County,
and when I worked there, we did we worked with ice.
And you know, so murderers, rape, this child, blisters, those
kinds of things when they were getting get when they
were leaving, we made sure ICE had the ability to
track the information and we assisted them in getting them
(50:08):
out of our jails or out of the country. Right,
very important because that keeps the helps keeps the community safe.
It's common sense, and I've been talking about on my
show for months. It's common sense to get the serious
criminals who are immigrants out of our communities, send them
back to the countries they came from. Right in, La
County has taken the extreme measure of not working with
(50:29):
it all. Now, the Values Act allows sheriffs around the
state to work to some degree with ICE. In La
County has decided not to work with ICE. In fact,
the sheriff talked about there's county regulations that doesn't let
me work with ICE. He did do a press conference
on that, and I think that needs to change. You know,
as Pam Bonni said, you know, our country was flooded
(50:50):
with immigrants. Crimes on American soil, including rape, murder, and
other violent crimes have been committed by these immigrants, and
we need to capture them and take them out of
our country. And they're simply requesting data and so far
the sheriff's department has not complied and not worked with them.
They only work with them if there's a federal warrant.
(51:11):
That means if they decide to go after a federal
charges and there's a just warrant, but they won't work
on them on administrative charges. And here's the thing, you know,
let's let me clarify, and I think I got a
couple of minutes to do. This is when somebody gets arrested,
even when they're just arrested. Let's say they're arrested for homicide,
there's a problem cause declaration that goes to a judge
(51:32):
to determine that a crime occurred in the person because
he likely did it. So there's already a level of
due process to make sure he's the guy. And with
the Democrats say, I don't know, you can't kick him
out of here unless they're convicted, and then they won't
even work with you once they're convicted to do their
time to help you get them out. And here's the deal.
If they've gone through a process that indicates that they
likely committed a crime, generally under administrative process, which is
(51:55):
what we do for immigrants, they get administrative process. This
is the same thing of regulatory prosus. You know, if
you want to get a permit, that's a that's an
administrative process.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
And if you want you know, if you have, if
you have, if you deal with the DMV related to registration,
that's an administrative process. And these are these are things
that it's a lower level of evidence needed to take action. Right. So,
since you've already had a proper cause decoration, you've already
had that, there isn't any reason why we can't be
telling the Feds that we got an immigrant to committed
(52:28):
a murder, uh and to let them know right or
a rape or a robbery or anything like that. But
they've Ellie County and the sheriff have decided they're not
going to do any of that, which just makes us
less safe. And body is saying, you know, we have
a joint obligation to keep your community safe. That's why
you have to work with us. And so far in
Ellie County they're refusing to do that. And she's given
(52:50):
them thirty days to comply, and so we'll see what happens.
I mean, we've got an election coming up. A sheriff
in a Weeva former sheriff in a Weeva is chosen
to run against, so this will likely be an issue.
I've had two candidates on my show. If to go
back and listen to my interview with Oscar Martinez and
Mike Borman. Both those guys are running for sheriff in
La County. I asked them their stance on working with ICE.
(53:12):
They both said they wanted to work with ICE, and
in fact, Oscar Martinez is a former migrant and he says, yeah,
we absolutely have to work with ICE because it's my
community that suffers when you let a Latino migrant back
into the community, go to the Latino community, and they
victimize the Latinos primarily. So for him, it's just common sense. Yes,
(53:34):
let's get rid of the worst of the worst. Let's
make it safe. And if they do that, you'll see
less teams on the street in La You'll see less
conflict on the streets in a light. But this is
by design. Don't work with them, make Ice do it
the hard way, and then point fingers at ICE and
say they're all bad guys for doing it the hard
way instead of just working with them, right, which is
all Bondie is asking. So I'm looking for our local
(53:55):
leaders to actually start working with Pam Boni. Hopefully she'll
keep the pressure on. Hey, thank you for joining me
with briefing with the Chief today. I just want to
remind you guys. Catch me next Wednesday. I'm gonna we've
got a Roman gask you back. He's coming back. He's
running for office. We're gonna talk about some crime stuff
in Michigan. See what he thinks, See what his positions are,
you know, see if he's up to up the snuff
on there. And so that will be fun and uh,
(54:17):
you know, so I'm looking forward to that. So go
back and listen to last week's show. That was Sheriff Swank.
He's up in Washington County and Washington the Piers Piers County, Washington.
He's trying to work with ice up there. They won't
let him work with up today. As he said, we're
farther left in California. It's hard for me to believe,
but it might be so. Anyways, thank you for joining
me with briefing on the Chief. And catch us next
(54:37):
every Wednesday at five pm Eastern Standard time. And like
I said, next week we'll be talking to Roman Gasky
and Amanda, you can take it away.
Speaker 4 (55:00):
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