May 2, 2025 • 46 mins
Grab your clairvoyance and your credit card because today we're getting a broader understanding of celebrity psychics & scammers.
From Mary Todd Lincoln’s séances in the White House, tv infomercials for psychic hotlines, CIA psychic spy programs and modern day reality tv mediums- we are taking a look at the business of reading minds, flipping cards and seeing the future.
Is anyone the real deal or was it all just a scam?
And why has no one won that $1,000,000 psychic challenge?
(originally released in December, 2023
sources available in show notes)
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/broads-next-door--5803223/support.
From Mary Todd Lincoln’s séances in the White House, tv infomercials for psychic hotlines, CIA psychic spy programs and modern day reality tv mediums- we are taking a look at the business of reading minds, flipping cards and seeing the future.
Is anyone the real deal or was it all just a scam?
And why has no one won that $1,000,000 psychic challenge?
(originally released in December, 2023
sources available in show notes)
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/broads-next-door--5803223/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Garcaus Psyche Sara Days on Godly Dog Savage.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Also being a medium on Long Island is that a
lot of people have shared experiences with their loved once.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Okay, uh, who had the grandfather who choked on.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
A meatful palm?
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Okay, his name was sal Or for Salvator.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
If you want him to believe that it's over, then
you gotta stop accepting the booty calls at two.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Am in the morning.
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Hello, neighbors, lovers, friends, mystics, and mind readers. I'm Danielli
Scrima and you're listening to Broad's next Door. Grab your
clairvoyance and your credit card because today we're talking all
things celebrity psychics. Hi. Hello, how is everyone? This episode
(00:52):
is actually a re released Riven episode from October of
twenty twenty three. I am quitting weed right now and
just go my period and feel so horrible, So we're
too a little re release episode. I'm working on some
good stuff for you for next week on Sunday. I'm
also gonna put out the May fourth episode again that
(01:13):
I did with my history professor from Kent State. To
look out for that next week. We have Eileen Warnos,
we have the time that Courtney Love punched Kathleen Hannah,
and today we have a little bit of celebrity psychics
and scams too. I'm pretty sure I recorded this right
after that Miss Cleo HBO documentary came out. It was
(01:34):
also going through a pretty hard time, so if I
sound more depressed than usual, it was because of the
state of the world and other things. I'm definitely feeling
less psychic than I was two years ago because everything
happening right now I really did not see coming. And
with that, I hope you enjoy this throwback episode. It
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seems that people have always sought advice from some form
of psychic. The first time I personally saw a psychic
was at my Catholic school's second grade Halloween fair. They
called her a fortune teller, but I knew what was up.
I already watched I watched a lot of cable, so
I was prepared for that. But she did tell me
that there would be a date that was really significant
(02:18):
for me and it was going to be May second,
which ended up being my first communion, which I'm sure
she had in front of her. But I was like, Wow,
where does she get her information? It was like, we
should be doing more of this. This is way cooler
than the nuns or the priests. They've predicted nothing. What
I did not realize in nineteen ninety two that I
now realize is that she was doing both a cold
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and hot reading, which are the main two ways you
do a psychic reading. So a hot reading would be
she had information in front of her, she had the
dates for the students of when significant events would be happening,
and the rest of it. A cold reading, she just
tears this seven year old dressed as a witch with
a lot of black eyeshadow on, and I think she
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kind of just went from there. And those are the
same techniques that I've basically had in every psychic reading sense.
But that was my last few months in Catholic school.
After that, we briefly moved to Italy, where I saw
no psychics, but everyone seemed to interpret dreams, this prophecy,
which is a pretty big thing in my family. And
(03:27):
then we moved to Florida, where there are no dreams
at all. Just kidding, just kidding, And in Florida, though,
things became absolutely unhinged. In kind of the best way.
My dad opened up a new Kung Fu school and
instead of ever having babysitters, I got dumped with various
Taichi students. Suddenly I was surrounded by adults who were like, no,
(03:49):
you can't commit a sin. What are you worried about?
You're eight years old. You can open up your third
eye instead. So it was a really really big shift.
They were like, kids are the most I think of all.
You have all these magic abilities just for being a child,
because the veil is thin for you. So a lot
of this did a lot of this did scare me.
(04:09):
I will tell you when some of this stuff, but
we would do things like we'd line up against the
wall and they'd show me how to see someone's aura.
So from early on I became a believer that we
all had some kind of power and energy within ourselves,
some magic. Even with this, though with this self proclaimed
power that I was given, that was in me, that
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was in everyone, I still wanted the fortune teller, and
in my adult life I've seen many psychics as well.
One of the reasons I actually wanted to do this
episode is because last year I started doing something called
the Gateway Process, which is this thing the actual's Cia
Devella to do remote viewing and being able to astral
(04:53):
project and stuff, but it got so weird. I'll talk
about the program a little bit in this episode, but
I don't even think I can talk about my experiences
without sounding so weird. I thought it was just going
to be like really intense meditation, but it's definitely CIA
mind control, and I've hypnotized myself and I don't know
what else is going to happen. And reading just thousands
(05:17):
of pages of CIA documents on their studies of esp
and telekinesis even like the men hysteric goats stuff. And
after everything I've read, I absolutely do believe that people
have psychic abilities. I believe that we all have intuition
to varying degrees. Then I was thinking, if I am
(05:39):
such a believer, why am I so skeptical of certain psychics,
Because for me, so much of it would be about intention.
Imagine you have this amazing gift where on the on
demand you can just commune with the dead, but when
they commune to you, all that comes across is like, oh,
I'm getting I'm getting getting a j name. And why
(06:01):
do celebrity psychics so often focus only on communicating with
the dead and love spell stuff? Probably because that's what
people want the most. But let's explore the history of
modern day psychics and how we got to where we are,
and then we'll talk about some famous psychics. We're also
going to be talking about James Randy, who had the
(06:21):
one million dollar challenge for anyone who could prove their
psychic abilities, and so far no one's won that million
dollars and that is surprising to me. I'm not alone
with my pursuit in search of answers and wanting to
see if consciousness will leave my body. I mean, even
what we know of human history, from the oracles in
(06:42):
ancient Greece to the hieroglyphics in Egypt. In China they
would use bones as for divination reading. I mean, there's
so many different examples for every culture. But we're going
to skip ahead to after the Civil War when spiritualism
really really creeps across the United States and kind of
(07:05):
changes the playing field of how we see modern day psychics.
The appeal of spiritualism was so big after the Civil
War because people had experienced such loss. Seances became a huge,
huge group event and thing to do. Mary Todd Lincoln
even had like five of them in the White House,
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and then at the front of this spiritualist movement where
the Fox Sisters, they would totally have their own reality
TV show now Margaret and Kate. So there are seances
become absolutely legendary, and they totally start a nationwide fascination
with the after life. This is like the simple life
of the after life. And they're definitely not alone in this.
There's so many different branches of spiritualism too, but for
(07:50):
what we know now of this psychic reading, smoke and
mirrors kind of gig, this is their style. There are
things that are actually more spiritual that are happening. But
as much as you always have believers, you always have
the skeptics. And one of my greatest examples of a
skeptic is a lot of them are are magicians. And
(08:14):
Harry Houdini was a huge skeptic. He was known often
as the handcuff King, and he was a fierce critic
of spiritualism. He was literally on a mission at one
point to unmask these Charlatans, declaring spiritualism is the greatest
fraud in the world, and he was really good at
(08:35):
unmasking a lot of their illusions.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Oh boor Child this is the magic trick, Huhel.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Once Hollywood enters the picture, psychics are are there. This
is just so them. And back in the day, stars
like Mary Pickford and Charlie Chaplin, the Hollywood silent film
icons all consulted psychics for career advice and their love
life guidance. May West was also super into psychics and astrology.
(09:05):
She said, I'm a great believer in the stars, darlings.
In the nineteen thirties, there's this guy, Edgar Casey who
is known as the Sleeping Profit because all of his
stuff comes to him when he's in like a translate state,
which is common with profits and seers. Even in modern
day and the age of secret the secret, you have
(09:25):
people like Set Jane Roberts channels Set, and then even
more recently she still does this. Esther Hicks channels Abraham
and they just say they're basically accessing all the information
there ever was. Some people call it the Akashic records.
Some people think it all knowledge. But Edgar Casey had
(09:46):
access to this and he did make some World War
II predictions. It's so hard with these with this is
someone where there's so much online about predictions that they
make now like a nostrodamis almost that it's so hard
to say what was from he actually said? And what
is people just really being out there? Things do kind
of slow down during World War Two, like the United
(10:07):
States like, your favorite thing to do here is build weapons.
So when other countries started working on like their psychic arsenal,
we were just like, no, we're gonna what about a
nuclear bomb? And even afterward, I don't see anything like
after the Civil War where people are like spiritualism. Instead,
it's like everyone's like capitalism, don't do a spell? What
(10:28):
about a refrigerator? We have so much metal? Now, this
really does change. In the nineteen sixties, so much of
this spiritual movement and the cultural revolution expanding consciousness, so
the fascination with psychics and astrology reaches new heights. At
this time. John Lennon and Yoko oh No love mysticism.
(10:48):
They saw spiritual guidance, had their own yogi and guru
did transcendental meditation. If I was marry Todd Lincoln or
Yoko oh No, I would be really pissed. I'd be like, hey, psychic,
so I feel like you forgot to mention this one
thing in the seventies, the I think the psychic stuff
becomes even more mainstream. I mean, you have Shirley McLain
(11:11):
super into the New Age stuff. You have Stevie Nix,
who is pretty open about her mystical magical dreams. A
really famous psychic during this time was this guy Ingo Swan.
And Ingo Swan also got really wrapped up into remote viewing,
and this is with the Stargate project in the nineteen seventies.
All these documents were disclosed in two thousand and three
(11:34):
some afterward. I've read thousands of pages on this because
this is all CIA stuff that they're doing and testing this.
They the United States was really really slow to remote viewing.
The Soviet Union was already really good at it, everywhere
else was better at it, and then the United States
in nineteen seventy they get this tape of this woman
(11:55):
Helga in the Soviet Union who can make a frog
die with her brain, and they're like, shit, we really
really really got to catch up. We really got to
catch up with our psychic stuff. You've been really focused
on the whole mk ultra thing and like creating a
super soldier by giving them massive amounts of psychedelics and
brainwashing them. So during the Cold War, the CIA was
(12:17):
really really diving deep into the supernatural, and this CIA
Gateway Project, which was kind of part of the start
Star gate Project, all of it was aimed to harness
psychic abilities with the goal of espionage explored remote viewing,
which is a form of psychic perception that sought to
uncover secrets from a distance. So up until Ingo Swan,
(12:40):
this had been very much like here's information in an envelope,
can you see what it is? Then Ingo Swan came
along and he was like, this is boring. I want
to just make up coordinates and I can show you
any place in the world. But even though the CIA
was like, yes, this is so true, and we're so
going to catch up to the Soviet Unions, even though
(13:00):
we barely believe that this is real, in the United States,
it seems there's a really hard They have a really
hard time separating mysticism from religion and even believing that
any of these things could exist without being religious. It's
the biggest thing they hit in the States with any
of these programs is that people are so skeptical. And
(13:21):
in the Soviet Union in China, they were not expecting
people to be doing these things because they saw it
as organized religion, and whereas in the Soviet Union they
were like, no, this is this is mysticism, bros. We've
been doing this, We've been doing this for a while.
And then in China they've been meditating since forever. So
if you're gonna like, I'll talk about this more, and
(13:43):
I'll talk about this more in the Patreon because it
gets too real to it just gets so weird. You
also had Uri Geller at this time who was like,
I can bend a spoon with my mind. And all
of this was well and fine with the United States government.
But James Randy, a former magician, had had enough bending
spoons and remote viewing. Like he had to draw a line,
(14:05):
and he says, Ingo Swan and all these other people
are frauds. They're all just a bunch of tricksters. And
he has a TV show where people can go on
and prove it.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Welcome back to psychic power fact or fraud. I'm David
Asman the want to win a million bucks. Well prove
your psychic ability to James Randy. The money's yours. Winner
of the MacArthur Genius Award, a world famous magician and
escape artist Randy's dedicated his life to searching for psychic power.
Juliet Huddy has the story here, I.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Am doing something out of there. I forgotten what it is,
but I look to.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Be in an iron maiden of some kind. He was
a modern day Houdini. I guess I got out because
I'm here, the pint sized magician. No milkcan, no coffin.
This is the episode over Niagara Falls. Not even a
straight jacket could hold.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
His high flying, death defying acts earned him the nickname
The Amazing Randy.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
That's on Mynny Carson Show and brought national thing.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Of course, The Amazing Randy's a bit older now and
a a lot less agile.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
It was fun, it was very challenging, and breaking out
of jails and struggling out.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Of chains and things like that.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
I'm a little over the hill for that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Today he's simply doctor James Randy, author, lecturer, and the
world's leading critic of all things psychic.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I see people being run down by the scam artists
every day of my life. I try to take them
out of the way of harm, and.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I try to get help for them.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
If I possibly can when people blend superstition with science
and make people believe that it really is true, that
things are really true that or not. This is where
James Randy comes in. He sees through all the fraud
and all the fluff, and he gets right down.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
At the meat.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
He discovers where there is any meet there or there's
just you know, a bone that isn't very tasty.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
From psychic superstars to local tarot card readers. If someone's
claiming supernatural ability, can.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Bet this is another version of the solar system.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Randy and his cohorts that the James Randy Educational Foundation
in Fort Lauderdale can explain it away.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
I am looking for what is true. Bertrand Russell said it,
and we've used it as our catchphrase here. What is
wanted is not the will to believe, but the will
to find out. Here at the Foundation, we're determined to
find out.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
So determined.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
In fact, the Foundation is offering a million dollars to.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Anyone can provide evidence of any paranormal, occult or supernatural
event or power of any kind under proper observing conditions.
It would think that they'd be knocking that door down
right now to do what they do every day and
collect money for But I don't hear many knocks it's true.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Instead, what he is hearing are complaints.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
I'm being sued all the time by psychics and by parapsychologist,
but particularly mister Gelly.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
He's the champion.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
His bitter feud with self proclaimed clairvoyant, telepithist and psychokineticist
Uri Geller is now into its third decade, started with
Randy Colling Geller nothing more than a talented trickster.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
All I can tell mister Geller is if he's doing
spoon bending by divine means, he's doing it the hard way.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Hi, why do rational people believe in something science and
investigators like Randy have proven untrue?
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Because I think they're looking for some magic in their lives.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
They're looking for control of the world around them.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I want to read you part of an article that
I found in my research that's from New York Magazine.
This is called so are Psychic's Real or What? By
Kate Heeney. Parapsychology, also called PSI the study of mental
or psychic phenomenon which can't be explained by the laws
of science as we know them, used to be pretty
common research among early formative psychologists. Freud studied it, William James,
(17:42):
the founder of American Academy of Psychology, studied it. The
Harvard psychologist Hugo Munsterenberg studied it. While much of this
work focused on exposing fraudulent self proclaimed psychic mediums, those
psychologists to engage with the subject of PSI maintained a
genuine interest in the subject, for which similarly interested contemporary
psychologists are routinely mocked, according to news Research. Perhaps the
(18:07):
most famous modern day parapsychology friendly psychologist is Daryl Bem,
whose twenty eleven experiments inspired a crisis in his field.
Some of his peers thought his paper was a hoax.
Others took issues with his methods, which they admitted were
technically correct. But if Bem could prove something so landish
as psychic ability with acceptable social science methodology, they said,
(18:28):
there had to be something wrong with accepted social science methodology.
So basically, in this experiment, what they did is they
had subjects in a sound proof room and they're blind folded,
and they're asked to describe a film clip that they
have not seen, which they're either shown after the fact
or which is played simultaneously but in another room. If
experimental judges can use these descriptions to choose the specified
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clip from the other distractor clips, this is considered positive evidence.
Pre para psychology Startingly meta analysis of Gansfield procedure said
he shows to statistically significant support for this psychic fact.
So even when these tests are done and the results
are positive, the problem is always repeatability. The same thing
happened with the Stargate project that was closed in nineteen
(19:13):
ninety five. They say it really was it's still going.
Repeatability is really hard. It's something that happened when people
would go head to head with James Randy. That's why
nobody has the million dollars. Sylvia Brown, she was another
person who said she would take James Randy's test, and
it was up to a million dollars by then, and
she never did it. I'm still surprised more people don't.
(19:36):
I've already convinced myself. I'm like, I could get that
million dollars with remote viewing. But it is set up.
It is set up harder, it's set up scientifically. He
does other things to make sure you're not cheating, or
he did other things the world didn't want more James
Randy's the world wanted more Psychic friends are right.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I share the sebsity. I saw sebstitute.
Speaker 11 (20:00):
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that could actually change your life, you want the real deal.
And that's especially true when it comes to psychic guidance.
Speaker 12 (20:08):
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Speaker 4 (20:19):
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Speaker 4 (20:24):
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Speaker 11 (20:26):
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Speaker 13 (20:51):
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Speaker 4 (20:54):
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Speaker 10 (21:01):
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Speaker 6 (21:04):
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Speaker 6 (21:19):
With the advent of the infomercial, there are more psychics
than ever, from tapes that you can order and then
eventually to actual hotlines you can call. And we cannot
talk about these hotlines without talking about the Queen of
hotlines herself, Miss Cleo.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
If you love my mass trouble, the power of the
Perl can help call me for your free reading. Now
there is a secret, baby, You understand me in this relationship,
the situation that we're looking at that is one of
another relationship. Let me stop trying to be polite.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
You understand me, and the secret is yours?
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Is it not with someone else?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And you are too.
Speaker 14 (21:57):
Miss Leo was a psychic advice and she read tarot cards. Girl, No,
he did it.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
Yes, like I felt like I was watching a Morie episode,
but like just her, you were feeling.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
As if she was cheating on you, weren't you?
Speaker 9 (22:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (22:12):
I did.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
That's what she was.
Speaker 14 (22:14):
It was the best install live you could have had
in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
It was so good, so good.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
If anyone watched TV after midnight from like ninety nine
or like two thousand two or whatever, you knew who
Miss Cleo was.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Well, you never know where miss Cleo is going to
show up. I'm on TV, I'm on the radio, and
sometimes like today, I'm on TV while I'm on the radio.
All right, go ahead, all the board. Mm hm, congratulations.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
This is from call me miss Cleo.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
That was our beautiful thesis off.
Speaker 14 (22:48):
It was clear that she was appropriating the accent and
that it was an an authentic Jamaican accent.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
She was quick on the draw.
Speaker 15 (22:56):
She would take these sort of ordinary questions and into
sort of like very funny, very unexpected sort of spiels
about whatever the topic at hand was.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Who asked you to go out of town? The stupid
young one or the married one to marry one? That's
what my thought.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
Don't go yeah hear?
Speaker 14 (23:13):
I mean this was like the girlfriend you invited over
for coffee.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Then I'm oh, no, no.
Speaker 14 (23:17):
No, that's the one he's been cheating on. You'll see,
I'm gonna tell you the real deal. They didn't just
want to hear about the future. They wanted what she gave,
which other psychics and other infomotional didn't give.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
She gave you the truth. I don't want to nowhere.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Around them, not in his car, not in his presence.
Your mother would have a proverbial fit.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I wanted gone from him. Janasan.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Yes, I do believe that miss Cleo was a talented
tarot card reader, and I actually really do like tarot
card readings because a person can't lie to you in
quite the same way. Of course, they can interpret the
cards to do anything or so something like a tarot
card reading or a birth chart, I think that's a
lot of fun. I think that can be insightful if
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you're taking from it what you will, and I think
it's less hard to manipulate people through that, unlike some
things which I find to be a lot more predatory,
like celebrity mediums, for example, and in general, I'm pretty
skeptical of mediums. There are people I believe who are
more in tune with things, but I have a huge
problem if anyone is ever going to sit there and
(24:21):
be like, oh, yeah, your grandma's talking to me, the
person you're paying four hundred dollars an hour to talk to,
instead of talking to you. Fuck off. My grandmother would
so much rather talk to me. She would be so
mad that you were taking my four hundred dollars. She
would like physically try and ghost attack you. Psychic. But
(24:42):
this is one thing that my family is really big
into the goddamn mediums, even for a dog. They brought
one in for a dog one time. One of the
biggest family fallouts that we had was over a medium
trigger warning for a second. In twenty three, my cousin
took his own life and he was young, he was
(25:03):
only twenty five, and we were all really blindsided and devastated.
He didn't leave a note or anything, so everyone was
looking for answers, and at his funeral, they make the mistake,
not even the funeral, the wake that like felt like
it went on for days. They make the mistake of
telling me that they're gonna have a medium come and
his aunt, who was not my aunt, like from the
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other side, starts explaining to me of this group of
people around me, and they're like, yeah, well, if someone
takes their own life. Then they're trapped in purgatory until
after their weight. So it's really good if you have
a psychic come and a medium to come to help them.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And these are
all people who think they're Catholic. So I lost my
(25:46):
shit on like another level. My mom still refers to this,
like still wants me to apologize for this the time.
I the time I yelled at everyone, and I won't
because I'm not sorry, but oh my god, I was
like screaming, you people and your Catholic dogma rita, you've
never read the Bible? Where are you getting this from?
(26:07):
And I left. I literally left town before they had
this medium come. I believe her name is Marianne, and
she's supposed to be like one of the best mediums
in all of Cleveland, in all of Cleveland. And I
love this though, because when she comes and there's no
sign of my cousin, it's just like some random dude
there named like Bob. She's like, I'm getting like a
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Bob in his sixties. Good, that's what you all deserve.
And afterward, just to show you that I'm just just
as bad, as them in a way. I did like
a ritual in the woods with my dog Sawyer made
like a circle to try and communicate with my dad cousin.
But mine was like way better. I wasn't paying some
stranger money to just tell me there's a random guy there.
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And if you're asking, but Danielle, why are you so crazy?
Wouldn't this have just helped your family to get a
nice message and be like, hey, it's me, I'm fine, no,
And I will give you a good example why. And
it is Sylvia Brown and Amanda Berry.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
One thing to be a psychic predicting love or the
lack thereof.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Can you tell me where my love life's going?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Nowhere?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
But there's nothing funny when it comes to predicting life
or death.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
She's gone, honey, do you know where she's at? In
the house or under the house.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
In that case, psychic Sylvia Brown was right, now she's
under attack. What a horrible human being for being wrong.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
About this girl.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Almost nine years ago, Amanda Barry's mom went on the
Montel Williams Hukou, where residents psychic Sylvia Brown spoke of
Amanda don't take all over then?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah in heaven on the other side.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
The WMMS Morning show in Cleveland re enacted the transcript.
Host read the part of the psyche.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I hate this when they're in water.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
She's not alive, honey, not alive?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Then, who's this?
Speaker 11 (28:02):
I've been doing that.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
I've been nothing for ten years, and I'm here.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
I'm fore Now Amanda's mom is the one no longer alive.
She came home from the psychics reading, telling the Cleveland
Plain Dealer she was devastated. Died a little more than
a year later after being hospitalized with pancreatitis. Now Sylvia
Brown is getting ripped on social media. Brown is a
grief vampire, nothing short of evil. You didn't have to
(28:28):
be a psychic to predict what Sylvia Brown would say
about her mistake. I have been more right than wrong.
If ever there was a time to be grateful and
relieved for being mistaken, this is that time. Only God
is right all the time. My heart goes out to
Amanda Barry.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
I was really into Sylvia Brown when I was younger.
I really I like the whole angels thing, and she
talked a lot about the angel's stuff, and I would
My mom had a lot of her books and basically
Sylvia's whole gist is when she was really young, when
she was four or five years old, really little. This
woman frand scene, I need to look at my notes
I'm having in front of me. Who is like this
fifteenth century Spanish woman materializes in Sylvia's bedroom and is like, hey,
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I'm your spirit guide. Sylvia runs to her mom and
is like, oh, there's this lady in my room. Her
mom and grandma are like, it's okay, you have a
special gift. So after that she starts. She has her
spirit guide who speaks perfect English, and also she's communicating
with angels. I guess God directly too, but I don't
know if any differently than anyone else. Sylvia Brown's books
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really started circulating at the beginning of the COVID nineteen
pandemic because she had made a prediction that in twenty twenty,
a virus would sweep the globe that would affect the
chest and the lungs, and then it would disappear as
quickly as it came. So people really took that as
a sign, even though she said a lot of things
(29:52):
that weren't true, like your daughter's dead and I can
see her underwater. She's not watching this from a Cleveland
House of Horrors, well changed to a bed. Just don't
say anything at all, Like she did that to a
lot of like nine to eleven widows too. They'd be like,
my husband died in the towers and she's like, I
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see water and they're like, no, there was nothing left
of him, and she's like, well, maybe he was getting
hit with a hose. I see water. Just just maybe
not just or you know, if I was gonna lie,
I would just be like, yes, they're they're at peace
or something vague like that. But then also, what if
she's not lying, and then she just really believes that?
(30:36):
And psychic messages aren't true all the time, but if
they're even wrong some of the time, I would not
be like, hey, let me tell you what dead people say.
I feel like giving predictions about the living is one thing,
but then if you're gonna if you're gonna speak for
the dead, even though there are certain people I believe
(30:57):
and I don't know why I believe them, And let's
do one I really believe next, and that is Alison Dubois.
You may know her because the show Medium was based
off of her, or you may know her from the
dinner party from Hell of Season one of Beverly Hills.
The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Psychic crime profiler Alison dubois.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
I got it all.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I'm both the medium of the psychic. I assist law
enforcement to help to bring conclusion to criminal cases. The
way that I do that is I head tap the criminal.
I get into their head, I hear their thoughts, I
look through their eyes.
Speaker 14 (31:37):
When she was six years old, Allison says she saw
her dead great grandfather appear by.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
The foot of her bed, smiling, and he said, tell
your mom, I'm not in pain anymore.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Then I'm still weather.
Speaker 14 (31:47):
Allison says she also hears voices, and at seventeen, one
of them actually saved her life.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I heard a voice say move your bed. So I
moved my bed from the south wall to the east
wall in a cup flowers. After that, a truck came
barreling through my bedroom wall and missed my head by
not much as it was, so if I hadn't moved
to bed, would have died.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
This is from Allison's first interview with Oprah. Well.
Speaker 14 (32:12):
First of all, I wanted to ask you when you
went to your mother at six years old, after you
had a visit from your grandfather at the foot of
the bed and you told your mother what your grandfather
had said. What did your mother say, go back to bed.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
She didn't know what to make of it. And it
was the seventies.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I don't think they knew a lot then what to
do with kids like me?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And when did you start to take this series or.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Believe that it was more than well.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
When I was interning in homicide to be a prosecuting attorney,
it was my job to sort the crime scene photos
to go to court, and I started seeing things that
were happening before the crimes. Prime photos had taken place
before the person was actually killed.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
So I looking at the photos. I'm looking at the photos.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
And just touching the paperwork with their names on it,
things of that nature.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
So I decided to test that theory.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I took three missing persons cases from across the country.
I did what I call it write up, writing impressions
on them, and I faxed.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
It to law enforcement that was taking care.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Of that case, expecting I was an overworked mother of
three that would never hear back from them, and my
conscience could be clean that I tried and I heard
back from texts of the Tarrant County Sheriff's Department and
they said this information was never released and can you
come to Texas?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
And that was my first case.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
The information that you would put in the letter had.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Never been released. Right, So you were onto something? Yeah,
I thought, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So I was able to tell them when they would
recover the child's body.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
How did you know that? I just saw five.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Years my head and they found her at four years
and nine months.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
After that was Allison talking to Oprah. Now, let's hear
her prophecy she made that recently came true.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Thank you something.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I think I've been having a great conversation.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
It's my grandmother here.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
The fact that you had even ask that would offend her,
your grandmother. I was study by a scientists for several
years and onh I'm front of seventy million people.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Kind of like a drug.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Once you get one, you want it again.
Speaker 13 (34:05):
Well, can you just tell us about turnas scary?
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Something that's not scary?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Oh my god, But what I want to tell you
my irritating to you.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
So don't care.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Okay, okay, have you been married twice?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Oh well, then that's the last one.
Speaker 16 (34:21):
You have.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I guess that's goodness.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I was thinking she was going to have to get
married again, meaning you'd.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Have a divorce. If my husband ever leaves me away with.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Him, you will never emotionally fulfill you ever.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Know that, Oh my gosh, know this, he will never
emotionally fulfill you. That line that is laid in my
head on the loo for over a decade. And she
was right. But there is something about Allison's sarcasm and
her honesty and almost a bit of she seems bothered
by even having this ability if for some reason I
(34:53):
just really believe her, maybe not everything she says or
that she's right all of the time, But I do
you think she's one of those those people. I think
she's an NGOs swan where something something is happening there.
Mediums in general just totally blow up. From John Edwards
having his own show at a very young.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Age, one young boiler and he has a special gift.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
This is the other side Stan mis psychish very carefully.
Speaker 13 (35:19):
This is a trick that I am doing. Okay, watch,
all I'm gonna do is say a name that I'm
gonna pick an. They want me to acknowledge Pete or Peter. Yes, yes,
stop clapping. All I did was pick a random name
and wait for somebody in the audience to give a response.
Now that I see that, there's a lone woman crying
inste tells me Peter was her husband. So I say,
(35:40):
Peter was your husband? Yes, yes, yes, my husband Peter.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Stand.
Speaker 13 (35:45):
I didn't do anything.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Now let's see if Stan is different from the real
John Edward as he appears on the Doctor Phil Show,
your party anchor. There's like two people in the audience
that have their handbrais, even though John Edward has his
back turned, and that would be me, Like, excuse me, sir.
(36:09):
To Teresa Capudo, the Long Island medium who she provides
like she does she does, she does know the assignment
and show up for it because if nothing else that
the parodies of her are are incredible and I sincerely
love her hair. That's probably obvious.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Today I'm at doctor Aman's office and he just recorded
my brain while I was reading, So hopefully I'll actually
get some scientific proof that my brain.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Doesn't work like everyone else's. Can anything happen? So let
me explain this to you. Okay, this is how fast
or slow your brain works? Okay, a little bit of yellow.
Speaker 17 (36:49):
Is high activity okay, and blue is low activity.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Okay.
Speaker 17 (36:56):
When you're channeling, your brain's just a little bit sleepier.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
People needed tape to get back. You're obviously in a
different state.
Speaker 17 (37:02):
You're really tuned into Some'm doctor daniel Lehman. I'm a
brain imaging expert and I'm the founder of AMEN. The
big thing we discovered is when she's channeling energy in
her brain drops, which means her own thoughts are sort
of tuning out so she can tune in to the
spiritual world.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
So there is a definite difference in my brain when
I'm chan. I would have liked a little bit more
of an explanation of what made her brain different. I
couldn't tell from the pictures. But now it seems like
everything is all about Tyler Henry and there is something
about him that bothers me so much. I think it's
the fact that he meets people like Bobby Brown and
(37:43):
it's like, oh, I don't know who Whitney Houston is.
Watched so many of his episodes and the only person
he recognized was Sabrina the teenage Witch. Melissa Joan Hart
does dozens of people and Michael Jackson. He's like, oh no,
and they don't even give him a lie of being amish.
They're just like he was shy and Christian and from
(38:04):
the South or something like that means anything. I'm so sorry. Okay.
Speaker 18 (38:08):
This is from a segment they did on Vice, The
Secrets of a Celebrity Psychic. Thousands of people paid around
fifty dollars at a casino in Welch, Minnesota to see
Tyler Henry, a psychic medium to celebrities speak to their
dead loved ones. Henry got famous for his self proclaimed
powers after he was featured on an episode Keeping Up
with the Kardashians. From there, he launched his own show
(38:31):
where he's given readings to celebrities like Moby, Lil John,
and former NBC News anchor Matt Lower.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
I'm reading their description, but I'm gonna stop him playing
their segment. If Matt Lower could trust him, I mean
that the Kardashians and Matt Lower, I'm like, what more?
What Moregio? And Mop and Moby oh and Little John
Little John back, Lil John actually counts for me. If
Little John was like, this is my psychic, I would
(39:01):
be like, okay.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
We have I have pictures of my mom and dad's wedding.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
My dad passed away seventeen years ago, and I'm hoping
that Tyler will that.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
He'll come through.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
No, I just lost my mom, so I would like
to see if something comes through.
Speaker 17 (39:16):
It's just curiosity, like a lot of questions that like
I just want answered and makes you feel very calm
knowing that you're sending me messages.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Please welcome Hollywood medium, Tyler Hory.
Speaker 16 (39:29):
Wow, Hello everybody. Wow, I want two of you showed
up of the good. I know everybody has varying degrees
of belief, but ight I'm excited to share with you
regardless beliefs, I'm truly validating testimonials of life for death.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Does that sound good?
Speaker 6 (39:45):
It actually sounds a little bit like a John Steidebeck
or Mark Twain's story where someone's like, oh, I'm a
really good preacher setting here by God. But if you
want to hear me, maybe contact your dad loved ones.
That will be fifty dollars. If I could let people
talk to their dead loved ones, I wouldn't charge any
(40:07):
money because their dead loved ones would be saying to me,
if you charge my morning loved one money, I'm gonna
fucking haunt you forever? Right? Is that the science science
of ghost hunting?
Speaker 4 (40:18):
All right?
Speaker 6 (40:19):
We're one minute and ten seconds into this clip on
Tyler Henry, and I'll stop screaming.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
These people paid around fifty dollars for a chance to
interact with the dead through twenty three year old psychic
Tyler Henry, better known to his legion of fans as
the Hollywood Medium.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Twenty three years.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
You started kind of, for lack of a better phrase,
professionalizing this.
Speaker 16 (40:41):
Well, that really started when I was around sixteen. I
graduated high school early with the goal of trying to
become a hospice nurse. And while I was enrolling, I
was basically just doing readings on the side for people
ifho word of mouth. I believe that if someone is legitimate,
they should not have to advertise. You shouldn't have to
have a neon sign.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Or work or be a psychic is his job.
Speaker 16 (40:59):
And you know, my goal was just to really help people,
whether it was in a public sense.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
We're in a private sinister hostas. I just wanted to
share what I knew I could do.
Speaker 16 (41:05):
But there are a lot of issues when it comes
to becoming a public medium, being the public eye, and
I didn't know at that time in my life if I.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Was ready to explore that in what sense.
Speaker 16 (41:13):
I knew all the criticism that I was going to
get when I went public, and I made the decision
ultimately to go public regardless.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
How are you to His career exploded after an appearance
on Keeping Up with the Kardashians. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
It's kind of an odd feeling.
Speaker 16 (41:27):
Right when I walked in, it was like there was
a feeling like there was something here.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Soon after his own show debut, Recommunes with the dead
relatives of famous actors and musicians. It's been a huge
rating success because now in its fourth season.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Are you sure? Are you sure we've never met before?
I'm pretty sure you.
Speaker 16 (41:44):
Bob is blown away hundred and seventy.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
So if I do this, tell me how it works.
I hopped to the top of the list.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
I have to find the Bobby Brown, the Bobby Brown
video when Bob Tyler Henry gives Bobby Brown and reading what.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Are the circumstances? Does it have to be in any
particular venue? I mean, you do it and obviously a big,
huge venue place.
Speaker 16 (42:08):
It's usually more of a matter of time usually requires
about an hour preparation and then an hour just kind
of sit down with the person and google.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Connection because information.
Speaker 16 (42:16):
I'm glad you said that, actually, because when you look
at readings, I think it's the specifics that come through
that are not researchable, are not googleble and reading celebrities.
People tell me all the time, Look, you're reading a celebrity,
even google them. There's so much shit out there about them.
But the thing is these people know the interviews they've done,
they know the stuff about them that's public information, they
know what's out there in the tabloids. But the private
details are what hitter reading home is the private facts,
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the private specific.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
Okay, almost everything from memory, just because I've read so
much about this stuff, and there are also so many
things I left out, But I love this kind of
weird stuff and consciousness especially and just the brain and
what our abilities are, what we might be able to do.
If you like hearing more stuff like this, let me know.
(42:58):
I'm definitely gonna do more stuff like this. And when
there's any kind of celebrity crossover, it's really it's really
interesting to me. I don't know why Tyler Henry makes
me so mad. Because he's not a Sylvia Brown, but
that's maybe just not yet. Be careful if you're going
to be a Sylvia Brown, because remember, the person you're
saying is dead could just be trapped in a home.
(43:20):
And I still want if you're listening to this and
you're like, I'm psychic, you should really get that million dollars.
I won't even ask for a cut of it because
I'm going to try and do the test myself, but
I'll put more of that on Patreon, and thank you
very much.
Speaker 16 (43:37):
I want to say, there's either a Susan or a
Susie connection to this.
Speaker 11 (43:44):
Good.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
When she opened the door, I had no idea who
she was.
Speaker 7 (43:47):
She had an amazing energy and I could.
Speaker 16 (43:48):
Tell her she was really open and she's the experience
boy opened the door. I had no idea who he was.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Thank you for listening to another episode of Broad's next
Door and for still sticking with me, even though I've
been so bad at keeping a schedule. This last month
in particular has been so hard for me. I really
had a hard time just even even functioning like that
level of sadness in this state of the world. Just
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wigan a big change, and please follow me on social
media so we can talk about all of that. I
don't think this is something we're gonna, unfortunately be able
to love and light their our way out of I
think it's going to take a lot more than that,
like literal revolution, so should be an interesting next year.
(44:39):
I'm I'm ready for it, though. I'm ready for everything
to just be different and better and out with the old.
That's my psychic prediction for the next year is that
even though things are so so bad right now, that
with things being this horrible, that our eyes will be
opened to so many more injustices and be able to
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keep seeing things and make things better instead of looking
away and letting things stay the way that they are.
And even though I think a lot of direct action
will be necessary, a lot needs to happen. Please don't
be hateful with each other. No, please don't turn away
from human suffering. Please don't avoid having hard conversations with
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your friends. I know a lot of people say not
to talk about politics, but I don't think this is politics.
I think we just need to have that basic communication
with each other and look out for each other and
not lose our humanity. I love you all a bunch
if you're feeling scared, if you're feeling sad, you can
always DM me or email me. I will always try
(45:43):
my best to talk to you or point you in
the right direction with the right resources. Thank you again
for listening. I feel so sad. Okay, give bye.
Garcaus Psyche Sara Days on Godly Dog Savage.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Also being a medium on Long Island is that a
lot of people have shared experiences with their loved once.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Okay, uh, who had the grandfather who choked on.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
A meatful palm?
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Okay, his name was sal Or for Salvator.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
If you want him to believe that it's over, then
you gotta stop accepting the booty calls at two.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Am in the morning.
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Hello, neighbors, lovers, friends, mystics, and mind readers. I'm Danielli
Scrima and you're listening to Broad's next Door. Grab your
clairvoyance and your credit card because today we're talking all
things celebrity psychics. Hi. Hello, how is everyone? This episode
(00:52):
is actually a re released Riven episode from October of
twenty twenty three. I am quitting weed right now and
just go my period and feel so horrible, So we're
too a little re release episode. I'm working on some
good stuff for you for next week on Sunday. I'm
also gonna put out the May fourth episode again that
(01:13):
I did with my history professor from Kent State. To
look out for that next week. We have Eileen Warnos,
we have the time that Courtney Love punched Kathleen Hannah,
and today we have a little bit of celebrity psychics
and scams too. I'm pretty sure I recorded this right
after that Miss Cleo HBO documentary came out. It was
(01:34):
also going through a pretty hard time, so if I
sound more depressed than usual, it was because of the
state of the world and other things. I'm definitely feeling
less psychic than I was two years ago because everything
happening right now I really did not see coming. And
with that, I hope you enjoy this throwback episode. It
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seems that people have always sought advice from some form
of psychic. The first time I personally saw a psychic
was at my Catholic school's second grade Halloween fair. They
called her a fortune teller, but I knew what was up.
I already watched I watched a lot of cable, so
I was prepared for that. But she did tell me
that there would be a date that was really significant
(02:18):
for me and it was going to be May second,
which ended up being my first communion, which I'm sure
she had in front of her. But I was like, Wow,
where does she get her information? It was like, we
should be doing more of this. This is way cooler
than the nuns or the priests. They've predicted nothing. What
I did not realize in nineteen ninety two that I
now realize is that she was doing both a cold
(02:41):
and hot reading, which are the main two ways you
do a psychic reading. So a hot reading would be
she had information in front of her, she had the
dates for the students of when significant events would be happening,
and the rest of it. A cold reading, she just
tears this seven year old dressed as a witch with
a lot of black eyeshadow on, and I think she
(03:04):
kind of just went from there. And those are the
same techniques that I've basically had in every psychic reading sense.
But that was my last few months in Catholic school.
After that, we briefly moved to Italy, where I saw
no psychics, but everyone seemed to interpret dreams, this prophecy,
which is a pretty big thing in my family. And
(03:27):
then we moved to Florida, where there are no dreams
at all. Just kidding, just kidding, And in Florida, though,
things became absolutely unhinged. In kind of the best way.
My dad opened up a new Kung Fu school and
instead of ever having babysitters, I got dumped with various
Taichi students. Suddenly I was surrounded by adults who were like, no,
(03:49):
you can't commit a sin. What are you worried about?
You're eight years old. You can open up your third
eye instead. So it was a really really big shift.
They were like, kids are the most I think of all.
You have all these magic abilities just for being a child,
because the veil is thin for you. So a lot
of this did a lot of this did scare me.
(04:09):
I will tell you when some of this stuff, but
we would do things like we'd line up against the
wall and they'd show me how to see someone's aura.
So from early on I became a believer that we
all had some kind of power and energy within ourselves,
some magic. Even with this, though with this self proclaimed
power that I was given, that was in me, that
(04:30):
was in everyone, I still wanted the fortune teller, and
in my adult life I've seen many psychics as well.
One of the reasons I actually wanted to do this
episode is because last year I started doing something called
the Gateway Process, which is this thing the actual's Cia
Devella to do remote viewing and being able to astral
(04:53):
project and stuff, but it got so weird. I'll talk
about the program a little bit in this episode, but
I don't even think I can talk about my experiences
without sounding so weird. I thought it was just going
to be like really intense meditation, but it's definitely CIA
mind control, and I've hypnotized myself and I don't know
what else is going to happen. And reading just thousands
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of pages of CIA documents on their studies of esp
and telekinesis even like the men hysteric goats stuff. And
after everything I've read, I absolutely do believe that people
have psychic abilities. I believe that we all have intuition
to varying degrees. Then I was thinking, if I am
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such a believer, why am I so skeptical of certain psychics,
Because for me, so much of it would be about intention.
Imagine you have this amazing gift where on the on
demand you can just commune with the dead, but when
they commune to you, all that comes across is like, oh,
I'm getting I'm getting getting a j name. And why
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do celebrity psychics so often focus only on communicating with
the dead and love spell stuff? Probably because that's what
people want the most. But let's explore the history of
modern day psychics and how we got to where we are,
and then we'll talk about some famous psychics. We're also
going to be talking about James Randy, who had the
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one million dollar challenge for anyone who could prove their
psychic abilities, and so far no one's won that million
dollars and that is surprising to me. I'm not alone
with my pursuit in search of answers and wanting to
see if consciousness will leave my body. I mean, even
what we know of human history, from the oracles in
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ancient Greece to the hieroglyphics in Egypt. In China they
would use bones as for divination reading. I mean, there's
so many different examples for every culture. But we're going
to skip ahead to after the Civil War when spiritualism
really really creeps across the United States and kind of
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changes the playing field of how we see modern day psychics.
The appeal of spiritualism was so big after the Civil
War because people had experienced such loss. Seances became a huge,
huge group event and thing to do. Mary Todd Lincoln
even had like five of them in the White House,
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and then at the front of this spiritualist movement where
the Fox Sisters, they would totally have their own reality
TV show now Margaret and Kate. So there are seances
become absolutely legendary, and they totally start a nationwide fascination
with the after life. This is like the simple life
of the after life. And they're definitely not alone in this.
There's so many different branches of spiritualism too, but for
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what we know now of this psychic reading, smoke and
mirrors kind of gig, this is their style. There are
things that are actually more spiritual that are happening. But
as much as you always have believers, you always have
the skeptics. And one of my greatest examples of a
skeptic is a lot of them are are magicians. And
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Harry Houdini was a huge skeptic. He was known often
as the handcuff King, and he was a fierce critic
of spiritualism. He was literally on a mission at one
point to unmask these Charlatans, declaring spiritualism is the greatest
fraud in the world, and he was really good at
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unmasking a lot of their illusions.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
Oh boor Child this is the magic trick, Huhel.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
Once Hollywood enters the picture, psychics are are there. This
is just so them. And back in the day, stars
like Mary Pickford and Charlie Chaplin, the Hollywood silent film
icons all consulted psychics for career advice and their love
life guidance. May West was also super into psychics and astrology.
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She said, I'm a great believer in the stars, darlings.
In the nineteen thirties, there's this guy, Edgar Casey who
is known as the Sleeping Profit because all of his
stuff comes to him when he's in like a translate state,
which is common with profits and seers. Even in modern
day and the age of secret the secret, you have
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people like Set Jane Roberts channels Set, and then even
more recently she still does this. Esther Hicks channels Abraham
and they just say they're basically accessing all the information
there ever was. Some people call it the Akashic records.
Some people think it all knowledge. But Edgar Casey had
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access to this and he did make some World War
II predictions. It's so hard with these with this is
someone where there's so much online about predictions that they
make now like a nostrodamis almost that it's so hard
to say what was from he actually said? And what
is people just really being out there? Things do kind
of slow down during World War Two, like the United
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States like, your favorite thing to do here is build weapons.
So when other countries started working on like their psychic arsenal,
we were just like, no, we're gonna what about a
nuclear bomb? And even afterward, I don't see anything like
after the Civil War where people are like spiritualism. Instead,
it's like everyone's like capitalism, don't do a spell? What
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about a refrigerator? We have so much metal? Now, this
really does change. In the nineteen sixties, so much of
this spiritual movement and the cultural revolution expanding consciousness, so
the fascination with psychics and astrology reaches new heights. At
this time. John Lennon and Yoko oh No love mysticism.
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They saw spiritual guidance, had their own yogi and guru
did transcendental meditation. If I was marry Todd Lincoln or
Yoko oh No, I would be really pissed. I'd be like, hey, psychic,
so I feel like you forgot to mention this one
thing in the seventies, the I think the psychic stuff
becomes even more mainstream. I mean, you have Shirley McLain
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super into the New Age stuff. You have Stevie Nix,
who is pretty open about her mystical magical dreams. A
really famous psychic during this time was this guy Ingo Swan.
And Ingo Swan also got really wrapped up into remote viewing,
and this is with the Stargate project in the nineteen seventies.
All these documents were disclosed in two thousand and three
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some afterward. I've read thousands of pages on this because
this is all CIA stuff that they're doing and testing this.
They the United States was really really slow to remote viewing.
The Soviet Union was already really good at it, everywhere
else was better at it, and then the United States
in nineteen seventy they get this tape of this woman
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Helga in the Soviet Union who can make a frog
die with her brain, and they're like, shit, we really
really really got to catch up. We really got to
catch up with our psychic stuff. You've been really focused
on the whole mk ultra thing and like creating a
super soldier by giving them massive amounts of psychedelics and
brainwashing them. So during the Cold War, the CIA was
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really really diving deep into the supernatural, and this CIA
Gateway Project, which was kind of part of the start
Star gate Project, all of it was aimed to harness
psychic abilities with the goal of espionage explored remote viewing,
which is a form of psychic perception that sought to
uncover secrets from a distance. So up until Ingo Swan,
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this had been very much like here's information in an envelope,
can you see what it is? Then Ingo Swan came
along and he was like, this is boring. I want
to just make up coordinates and I can show you
any place in the world. But even though the CIA
was like, yes, this is so true, and we're so
going to catch up to the Soviet Unions, even though
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we barely believe that this is real, in the United States,
it seems there's a really hard They have a really
hard time separating mysticism from religion and even believing that
any of these things could exist without being religious. It's
the biggest thing they hit in the States with any
of these programs is that people are so skeptical. And
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in the Soviet Union in China, they were not expecting
people to be doing these things because they saw it
as organized religion, and whereas in the Soviet Union they
were like, no, this is this is mysticism, bros. We've
been doing this, We've been doing this for a while.
And then in China they've been meditating since forever. So
if you're gonna like, I'll talk about this more, and
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I'll talk about this more in the Patreon because it
gets too real to it just gets so weird. You
also had Uri Geller at this time who was like,
I can bend a spoon with my mind. And all
of this was well and fine with the United States government.
But James Randy, a former magician, had had enough bending
spoons and remote viewing. Like he had to draw a line,
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and he says, Ingo Swan and all these other people
are frauds. They're all just a bunch of tricksters. And
he has a TV show where people can go on
and prove it.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
Welcome back to psychic power fact or fraud. I'm David
Asman the want to win a million bucks. Well prove
your psychic ability to James Randy. The money's yours. Winner
of the MacArthur Genius Award, a world famous magician and
escape artist Randy's dedicated his life to searching for psychic power.
Juliet Huddy has the story here, I.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
Am doing something out of there. I forgotten what it is,
but I look to.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Be in an iron maiden of some kind. He was
a modern day Houdini. I guess I got out because
I'm here, the pint sized magician. No milkcan, no coffin.
This is the episode over Niagara Falls. Not even a
straight jacket could hold.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
His high flying, death defying acts earned him the nickname
The Amazing Randy.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
That's on Mynny Carson Show and brought national thing.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Of course, The Amazing Randy's a bit older now and
a a lot less agile.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
It was fun, it was very challenging, and breaking out
of jails and struggling out.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Of chains and things like that.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
I'm a little over the hill for that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Today he's simply doctor James Randy, author, lecturer, and the
world's leading critic of all things psychic.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
I see people being run down by the scam artists
every day of my life. I try to take them
out of the way of harm, and.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I try to get help for them.
Speaker 9 (15:26):
If I possibly can when people blend superstition with science
and make people believe that it really is true, that
things are really true that or not. This is where
James Randy comes in. He sees through all the fraud
and all the fluff, and he gets right down.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
At the meat.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
He discovers where there is any meet there or there's
just you know, a bone that isn't very tasty.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
From psychic superstars to local tarot card readers. If someone's
claiming supernatural ability, can.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Bet this is another version of the solar system.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Randy and his cohorts that the James Randy Educational Foundation
in Fort Lauderdale can explain it away.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
I am looking for what is true. Bertrand Russell said it,
and we've used it as our catchphrase here. What is
wanted is not the will to believe, but the will
to find out. Here at the Foundation, we're determined to
find out.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
So determined.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
In fact, the Foundation is offering a million dollars to.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Anyone can provide evidence of any paranormal, occult or supernatural
event or power of any kind under proper observing conditions.
It would think that they'd be knocking that door down
right now to do what they do every day and
collect money for But I don't hear many knocks it's true.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Instead, what he is hearing are complaints.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
I'm being sued all the time by psychics and by parapsychologist,
but particularly mister Gelly.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
He's the champion.
Speaker 10 (16:48):
His bitter feud with self proclaimed clairvoyant, telepithist and psychokineticist
Uri Geller is now into its third decade, started with
Randy Colling Geller nothing more than a talented trickster.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
All I can tell mister Geller is if he's doing
spoon bending by divine means, he's doing it the hard way.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Hi, why do rational people believe in something science and
investigators like Randy have proven untrue?
Speaker 7 (17:13):
Because I think they're looking for some magic in their lives.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
They're looking for control of the world around them.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
I want to read you part of an article that
I found in my research that's from New York Magazine.
This is called so are Psychic's Real or What? By
Kate Heeney. Parapsychology, also called PSI the study of mental
or psychic phenomenon which can't be explained by the laws
of science as we know them, used to be pretty
common research among early formative psychologists. Freud studied it, William James,
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the founder of American Academy of Psychology, studied it. The
Harvard psychologist Hugo Munsterenberg studied it. While much of this
work focused on exposing fraudulent self proclaimed psychic mediums, those
psychologists to engage with the subject of PSI maintained a
genuine interest in the subject, for which similarly interested contemporary
psychologists are routinely mocked, according to news Research. Perhaps the
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most famous modern day parapsychology friendly psychologist is Daryl Bem,
whose twenty eleven experiments inspired a crisis in his field.
Some of his peers thought his paper was a hoax.
Others took issues with his methods, which they admitted were
technically correct. But if Bem could prove something so landish
as psychic ability with acceptable social science methodology, they said,
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there had to be something wrong with accepted social science methodology.
So basically, in this experiment, what they did is they
had subjects in a sound proof room and they're blind folded,
and they're asked to describe a film clip that they
have not seen, which they're either shown after the fact
or which is played simultaneously but in another room. If
experimental judges can use these descriptions to choose the specified
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clip from the other distractor clips, this is considered positive evidence.
Pre para psychology Startingly meta analysis of Gansfield procedure said
he shows to statistically significant support for this psychic fact.
So even when these tests are done and the results
are positive, the problem is always repeatability. The same thing
happened with the Stargate project that was closed in nineteen
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ninety five. They say it really was it's still going.
Repeatability is really hard. It's something that happened when people
would go head to head with James Randy. That's why
nobody has the million dollars. Sylvia Brown, she was another
person who said she would take James Randy's test, and
it was up to a million dollars by then, and
she never did it. I'm still surprised more people don't.
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I've already convinced myself. I'm like, I could get that
million dollars with remote viewing. But it is set up.
It is set up harder, it's set up scientifically. He
does other things to make sure you're not cheating, or
he did other things the world didn't want more James
Randy's the world wanted more Psychic friends are right.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I share the sebsity. I saw sebstitute.
Speaker 11 (20:00):
But when it comes to the kind of personal guidance
that could actually change your life, you want the real deal.
And that's especially true when it comes to psychic guidance.
Speaker 12 (20:08):
When someone told me to call one of those imitation
psychic clubs, Gary, when you're talking about there's only one
true psychic service, the Psychic Friends Network.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Recently a lot of these so.
Speaker 11 (20:20):
Called psychic clubs and services has sprung up all over
the television screen.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And they all do their very best to look.
Speaker 11 (20:26):
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Speaker 11 (20:43):
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Speaker 4 (20:45):
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Speaker 11 (20:47):
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Speaker 13 (20:51):
Hiring it with a dieting I could put me at ease.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Right away. She was answering questions before I even asked them.
I was really impressed. Good time on the phone.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
My call to the Psychic Friends network was enlightening.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
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Speaker 5 (21:08):
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Speaker 6 (21:19):
With the advent of the infomercial, there are more psychics
than ever, from tapes that you can order and then
eventually to actual hotlines you can call. And we cannot
talk about these hotlines without talking about the Queen of
hotlines herself, Miss Cleo.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
If you love my mass trouble, the power of the
Perl can help call me for your free reading. Now
there is a secret, baby, You understand me in this relationship,
the situation that we're looking at that is one of
another relationship. Let me stop trying to be polite.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
You understand me, and the secret is yours?
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Is it not with someone else?
Speaker 4 (21:55):
And you are too.
Speaker 14 (21:57):
Miss Leo was a psychic advice and she read tarot cards. Girl, No,
he did it.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
Yes, like I felt like I was watching a Morie episode,
but like just her, you were feeling.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
As if she was cheating on you, weren't you?
Speaker 9 (22:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (22:12):
I did.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
That's what she was.
Speaker 14 (22:14):
It was the best install live you could have had
in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
It was so good, so good.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
If anyone watched TV after midnight from like ninety nine
or like two thousand two or whatever, you knew who
Miss Cleo was.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Well, you never know where miss Cleo is going to
show up. I'm on TV, I'm on the radio, and
sometimes like today, I'm on TV while I'm on the radio.
All right, go ahead, all the board. Mm hm, congratulations.
Speaker 6 (22:44):
This is from call me miss Cleo.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
That was our beautiful thesis off.
Speaker 14 (22:48):
It was clear that she was appropriating the accent and
that it was an an authentic Jamaican accent.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
She was quick on the draw.
Speaker 15 (22:56):
She would take these sort of ordinary questions and into
sort of like very funny, very unexpected sort of spiels
about whatever the topic at hand was.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Who asked you to go out of town? The stupid
young one or the married one to marry one? That's
what my thought.
Speaker 9 (23:12):
Don't go yeah hear?
Speaker 14 (23:13):
I mean this was like the girlfriend you invited over
for coffee.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Then I'm oh, no, no.
Speaker 14 (23:17):
No, that's the one he's been cheating on. You'll see,
I'm gonna tell you the real deal. They didn't just
want to hear about the future. They wanted what she gave,
which other psychics and other infomotional didn't give.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
She gave you the truth. I don't want to nowhere.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Around them, not in his car, not in his presence.
Your mother would have a proverbial fit.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
I wanted gone from him. Janasan.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Yes, I do believe that miss Cleo was a talented
tarot card reader, and I actually really do like tarot
card readings because a person can't lie to you in
quite the same way. Of course, they can interpret the
cards to do anything or so something like a tarot
card reading or a birth chart, I think that's a
lot of fun. I think that can be insightful if
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you're taking from it what you will, and I think
it's less hard to manipulate people through that, unlike some
things which I find to be a lot more predatory,
like celebrity mediums, for example, and in general, I'm pretty
skeptical of mediums. There are people I believe who are
more in tune with things, but I have a huge
problem if anyone is ever going to sit there and
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be like, oh, yeah, your grandma's talking to me, the
person you're paying four hundred dollars an hour to talk to,
instead of talking to you. Fuck off. My grandmother would
so much rather talk to me. She would be so
mad that you were taking my four hundred dollars. She
would like physically try and ghost attack you. Psychic. But
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this is one thing that my family is really big
into the goddamn mediums, even for a dog. They brought
one in for a dog one time. One of the
biggest family fallouts that we had was over a medium
trigger warning for a second. In twenty three, my cousin
took his own life and he was young, he was
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only twenty five, and we were all really blindsided and devastated.
He didn't leave a note or anything, so everyone was
looking for answers, and at his funeral, they make the mistake,
not even the funeral, the wake that like felt like
it went on for days. They make the mistake of
telling me that they're gonna have a medium come and
his aunt, who was not my aunt, like from the
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other side, starts explaining to me of this group of
people around me, and they're like, yeah, well, if someone
takes their own life. Then they're trapped in purgatory until
after their weight. So it's really good if you have
a psychic come and a medium to come to help them.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And these are
all people who think they're Catholic. So I lost my
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shit on like another level. My mom still refers to this,
like still wants me to apologize for this the time.
I the time I yelled at everyone, and I won't
because I'm not sorry, but oh my god, I was
like screaming, you people and your Catholic dogma rita, you've
never read the Bible? Where are you getting this from?
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And I left. I literally left town before they had
this medium come. I believe her name is Marianne, and
she's supposed to be like one of the best mediums
in all of Cleveland, in all of Cleveland. And I
love this though, because when she comes and there's no
sign of my cousin, it's just like some random dude
there named like Bob. She's like, I'm getting like a
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Bob in his sixties. Good, that's what you all deserve.
And afterward, just to show you that I'm just just
as bad, as them in a way. I did like
a ritual in the woods with my dog Sawyer made
like a circle to try and communicate with my dad cousin.
But mine was like way better. I wasn't paying some
stranger money to just tell me there's a random guy there.
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And if you're asking, but Danielle, why are you so crazy?
Wouldn't this have just helped your family to get a
nice message and be like, hey, it's me, I'm fine, no,
And I will give you a good example why. And
it is Sylvia Brown and Amanda Berry.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
One thing to be a psychic predicting love or the
lack thereof.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Can you tell me where my love life's going?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Nowhere?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
But there's nothing funny when it comes to predicting life
or death.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
She's gone, honey, do you know where she's at? In
the house or under the house.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
In that case, psychic Sylvia Brown was right, now she's
under attack. What a horrible human being for being wrong.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
About this girl.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Almost nine years ago, Amanda Barry's mom went on the
Montel Williams Hukou, where residents psychic Sylvia Brown spoke of
Amanda don't take all over then?
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah in heaven on the other side.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
The WMMS Morning show in Cleveland re enacted the transcript.
Host read the part of the psyche.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
I hate this when they're in water.
Speaker 7 (27:58):
She's not alive, honey, not alive?
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Then, who's this?
Speaker 11 (28:02):
I've been doing that.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
I've been nothing for ten years, and I'm here.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
I'm fore Now Amanda's mom is the one no longer alive.
She came home from the psychics reading, telling the Cleveland
Plain Dealer she was devastated. Died a little more than
a year later after being hospitalized with pancreatitis. Now Sylvia
Brown is getting ripped on social media. Brown is a
grief vampire, nothing short of evil. You didn't have to
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be a psychic to predict what Sylvia Brown would say
about her mistake. I have been more right than wrong.
If ever there was a time to be grateful and
relieved for being mistaken, this is that time. Only God
is right all the time. My heart goes out to
Amanda Barry.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
I was really into Sylvia Brown when I was younger.
I really I like the whole angels thing, and she
talked a lot about the angel's stuff, and I would
My mom had a lot of her books and basically
Sylvia's whole gist is when she was really young, when
she was four or five years old, really little. This
woman frand scene, I need to look at my notes
I'm having in front of me. Who is like this
fifteenth century Spanish woman materializes in Sylvia's bedroom and is like, hey,
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I'm your spirit guide. Sylvia runs to her mom and
is like, oh, there's this lady in my room. Her
mom and grandma are like, it's okay, you have a
special gift. So after that she starts. She has her
spirit guide who speaks perfect English, and also she's communicating
with angels. I guess God directly too, but I don't
know if any differently than anyone else. Sylvia Brown's books
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really started circulating at the beginning of the COVID nineteen
pandemic because she had made a prediction that in twenty twenty,
a virus would sweep the globe that would affect the
chest and the lungs, and then it would disappear as
quickly as it came. So people really took that as
a sign, even though she said a lot of things
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that weren't true, like your daughter's dead and I can
see her underwater. She's not watching this from a Cleveland
House of Horrors, well changed to a bed. Just don't
say anything at all, Like she did that to a
lot of like nine to eleven widows too. They'd be like,
my husband died in the towers and she's like, I
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see water and they're like, no, there was nothing left
of him, and she's like, well, maybe he was getting
hit with a hose. I see water. Just just maybe
not just or you know, if I was gonna lie,
I would just be like, yes, they're they're at peace
or something vague like that. But then also, what if
she's not lying, and then she just really believes that?
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And psychic messages aren't true all the time, but if
they're even wrong some of the time, I would not
be like, hey, let me tell you what dead people say.
I feel like giving predictions about the living is one thing,
but then if you're gonna if you're gonna speak for
the dead, even though there are certain people I believe
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and I don't know why I believe them, And let's
do one I really believe next, and that is Alison Dubois.
You may know her because the show Medium was based
off of her, or you may know her from the
dinner party from Hell of Season one of Beverly Hills.
The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Psychic crime profiler Alison dubois.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
I got it all.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I'm both the medium of the psychic. I assist law
enforcement to help to bring conclusion to criminal cases. The
way that I do that is I head tap the criminal.
I get into their head, I hear their thoughts, I
look through their eyes.
Speaker 14 (31:37):
When she was six years old, Allison says she saw
her dead great grandfather appear by.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
The foot of her bed, smiling, and he said, tell
your mom, I'm not in pain anymore.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Then I'm still weather.
Speaker 14 (31:47):
Allison says she also hears voices, and at seventeen, one
of them actually saved her life.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I heard a voice say move your bed. So I
moved my bed from the south wall to the east
wall in a cup flowers. After that, a truck came
barreling through my bedroom wall and missed my head by
not much as it was, so if I hadn't moved
to bed, would have died.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
This is from Allison's first interview with Oprah. Well.
Speaker 14 (32:12):
First of all, I wanted to ask you when you
went to your mother at six years old, after you
had a visit from your grandfather at the foot of
the bed and you told your mother what your grandfather
had said. What did your mother say, go back to bed.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
She didn't know what to make of it. And it
was the seventies.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I don't think they knew a lot then what to
do with kids like me?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And when did you start to take this series or.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Believe that it was more than well.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
When I was interning in homicide to be a prosecuting attorney,
it was my job to sort the crime scene photos
to go to court, and I started seeing things that
were happening before the crimes. Prime photos had taken place
before the person was actually killed.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
So I looking at the photos. I'm looking at the photos.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
And just touching the paperwork with their names on it,
things of that nature.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
So I decided to test that theory.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
I took three missing persons cases from across the country.
I did what I call it write up, writing impressions
on them, and I faxed.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
It to law enforcement that was taking care.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Of that case, expecting I was an overworked mother of
three that would never hear back from them, and my
conscience could be clean that I tried and I heard
back from texts of the Tarrant County Sheriff's Department and
they said this information was never released and can you
come to Texas?
Speaker 4 (33:19):
And that was my first case.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
The information that you would put in the letter had.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Never been released. Right, So you were onto something? Yeah,
I thought, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
So I was able to tell them when they would
recover the child's body.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
How did you know that? I just saw five.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Years my head and they found her at four years
and nine months.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
After that was Allison talking to Oprah. Now, let's hear
her prophecy she made that recently came true.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Thank you something.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I think I've been having a great conversation.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
It's my grandmother here.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
The fact that you had even ask that would offend her,
your grandmother. I was study by a scientists for several
years and onh I'm front of seventy million people.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
Kind of like a drug.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Once you get one, you want it again.
Speaker 13 (34:05):
Well, can you just tell us about turnas scary?
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Something that's not scary?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Oh my god, But what I want to tell you
my irritating to you.
Speaker 7 (34:13):
So don't care.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Okay, okay, have you been married twice?
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Oh well, then that's the last one.
Speaker 16 (34:21):
You have.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I guess that's goodness.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I was thinking she was going to have to get
married again, meaning you'd.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Have a divorce. If my husband ever leaves me away with.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Him, you will never emotionally fulfill you ever.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Know that, Oh my gosh, know this, he will never
emotionally fulfill you. That line that is laid in my
head on the loo for over a decade. And she
was right. But there is something about Allison's sarcasm and
her honesty and almost a bit of she seems bothered
by even having this ability if for some reason I
(34:53):
just really believe her, maybe not everything she says or
that she's right all of the time, But I do
you think she's one of those those people. I think
she's an NGOs swan where something something is happening there.
Mediums in general just totally blow up. From John Edwards
having his own show at a very young.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Age, one young boiler and he has a special gift.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
This is the other side Stan mis psychish very carefully.
Speaker 13 (35:19):
This is a trick that I am doing. Okay, watch,
all I'm gonna do is say a name that I'm
gonna pick an. They want me to acknowledge Pete or Peter. Yes, yes,
stop clapping. All I did was pick a random name
and wait for somebody in the audience to give a response.
Now that I see that, there's a lone woman crying
inste tells me Peter was her husband. So I say,
(35:40):
Peter was your husband? Yes, yes, yes, my husband Peter.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Stand.
Speaker 13 (35:45):
I didn't do anything.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Now let's see if Stan is different from the real
John Edward as he appears on the Doctor Phil Show,
your party anchor. There's like two people in the audience
that have their handbrais, even though John Edward has his
back turned, and that would be me, Like, excuse me, sir.
(36:09):
To Teresa Capudo, the Long Island medium who she provides
like she does she does, she does know the assignment
and show up for it because if nothing else that
the parodies of her are are incredible and I sincerely
love her hair. That's probably obvious.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Today I'm at doctor Aman's office and he just recorded
my brain while I was reading, So hopefully I'll actually
get some scientific proof that my brain.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Doesn't work like everyone else's. Can anything happen? So let
me explain this to you. Okay, this is how fast
or slow your brain works? Okay, a little bit of yellow.
Speaker 17 (36:49):
Is high activity okay, and blue is low activity.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Okay.
Speaker 17 (36:56):
When you're channeling, your brain's just a little bit sleepier.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
People needed tape to get back. You're obviously in a
different state.
Speaker 17 (37:02):
You're really tuned into Some'm doctor daniel Lehman. I'm a
brain imaging expert and I'm the founder of AMEN. The
big thing we discovered is when she's channeling energy in
her brain drops, which means her own thoughts are sort
of tuning out so she can tune in to the
spiritual world.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
So there is a definite difference in my brain when
I'm chan. I would have liked a little bit more
of an explanation of what made her brain different. I
couldn't tell from the pictures. But now it seems like
everything is all about Tyler Henry and there is something
about him that bothers me so much. I think it's
the fact that he meets people like Bobby Brown and
(37:43):
it's like, oh, I don't know who Whitney Houston is.
Watched so many of his episodes and the only person
he recognized was Sabrina the teenage Witch. Melissa Joan Hart
does dozens of people and Michael Jackson. He's like, oh no,
and they don't even give him a lie of being amish.
They're just like he was shy and Christian and from
(38:04):
the South or something like that means anything. I'm so sorry. Okay.
Speaker 18 (38:08):
This is from a segment they did on Vice, The
Secrets of a Celebrity Psychic. Thousands of people paid around
fifty dollars at a casino in Welch, Minnesota to see
Tyler Henry, a psychic medium to celebrities speak to their
dead loved ones. Henry got famous for his self proclaimed
powers after he was featured on an episode Keeping Up
with the Kardashians. From there, he launched his own show
(38:31):
where he's given readings to celebrities like Moby, Lil John,
and former NBC News anchor Matt Lower.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
I'm reading their description, but I'm gonna stop him playing
their segment. If Matt Lower could trust him, I mean
that the Kardashians and Matt Lower, I'm like, what more?
What Moregio? And Mop and Moby oh and Little John
Little John back, Lil John actually counts for me. If
Little John was like, this is my psychic, I would
(39:01):
be like, okay.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
We have I have pictures of my mom and dad's wedding.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
My dad passed away seventeen years ago, and I'm hoping
that Tyler will that.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
He'll come through.
Speaker 7 (39:12):
No, I just lost my mom, so I would like
to see if something comes through.
Speaker 17 (39:16):
It's just curiosity, like a lot of questions that like
I just want answered and makes you feel very calm
knowing that you're sending me messages.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Please welcome Hollywood medium, Tyler Hory.
Speaker 16 (39:29):
Wow, Hello everybody. Wow, I want two of you showed
up of the good. I know everybody has varying degrees
of belief, but ight I'm excited to share with you
regardless beliefs, I'm truly validating testimonials of life for death.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
Does that sound good?
Speaker 6 (39:45):
It actually sounds a little bit like a John Steidebeck
or Mark Twain's story where someone's like, oh, I'm a
really good preacher setting here by God. But if you
want to hear me, maybe contact your dad loved ones.
That will be fifty dollars. If I could let people
talk to their dead loved ones, I wouldn't charge any
(40:07):
money because their dead loved ones would be saying to me,
if you charge my morning loved one money, I'm gonna
fucking haunt you forever? Right? Is that the science science
of ghost hunting?
Speaker 4 (40:18):
All right?
Speaker 6 (40:19):
We're one minute and ten seconds into this clip on
Tyler Henry, and I'll stop screaming.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
These people paid around fifty dollars for a chance to
interact with the dead through twenty three year old psychic
Tyler Henry, better known to his legion of fans as
the Hollywood Medium.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Twenty three years.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
You started kind of, for lack of a better phrase,
professionalizing this.
Speaker 16 (40:41):
Well, that really started when I was around sixteen. I
graduated high school early with the goal of trying to
become a hospice nurse. And while I was enrolling, I
was basically just doing readings on the side for people
ifho word of mouth. I believe that if someone is legitimate,
they should not have to advertise. You shouldn't have to
have a neon sign.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Or work or be a psychic is his job.
Speaker 16 (40:59):
And you know, my goal was just to really help people,
whether it was in a public sense.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
We're in a private sinister hostas. I just wanted to
share what I knew I could do.
Speaker 16 (41:05):
But there are a lot of issues when it comes
to becoming a public medium, being the public eye, and
I didn't know at that time in my life if I.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Was ready to explore that in what sense.
Speaker 16 (41:13):
I knew all the criticism that I was going to
get when I went public, and I made the decision
ultimately to go public regardless.
Speaker 5 (41:19):
How are you to His career exploded after an appearance
on Keeping Up with the Kardashians. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
It's kind of an odd feeling.
Speaker 16 (41:27):
Right when I walked in, it was like there was
a feeling like there was something here.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
Soon after his own show debut, Recommunes with the dead
relatives of famous actors and musicians. It's been a huge
rating success because now in its fourth season.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Are you sure? Are you sure we've never met before?
I'm pretty sure you.
Speaker 16 (41:44):
Bob is blown away hundred and seventy.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
So if I do this, tell me how it works.
I hopped to the top of the list.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
I have to find the Bobby Brown, the Bobby Brown
video when Bob Tyler Henry gives Bobby Brown and reading what.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Are the circumstances? Does it have to be in any
particular venue? I mean, you do it and obviously a big,
huge venue place.
Speaker 16 (42:08):
It's usually more of a matter of time usually requires
about an hour preparation and then an hour just kind
of sit down with the person and google.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Connection because information.
Speaker 16 (42:16):
I'm glad you said that, actually, because when you look
at readings, I think it's the specifics that come through
that are not researchable, are not googleble and reading celebrities.
People tell me all the time, Look, you're reading a celebrity,
even google them. There's so much shit out there about them.
But the thing is these people know the interviews they've done,
they know the stuff about them that's public information, they
know what's out there in the tabloids. But the private
details are what hitter reading home is the private facts,
(42:36):
the private specific.
Speaker 6 (42:37):
Okay, almost everything from memory, just because I've read so
much about this stuff, and there are also so many
things I left out, But I love this kind of
weird stuff and consciousness especially and just the brain and
what our abilities are, what we might be able to do.
If you like hearing more stuff like this, let me know.
(42:58):
I'm definitely gonna do more stuff like this. And when
there's any kind of celebrity crossover, it's really it's really
interesting to me. I don't know why Tyler Henry makes
me so mad. Because he's not a Sylvia Brown, but
that's maybe just not yet. Be careful if you're going
to be a Sylvia Brown, because remember, the person you're
saying is dead could just be trapped in a home.
(43:20):
And I still want if you're listening to this and
you're like, I'm psychic, you should really get that million dollars.
I won't even ask for a cut of it because
I'm going to try and do the test myself, but
I'll put more of that on Patreon, and thank you
very much.
Speaker 16 (43:37):
I want to say, there's either a Susan or a
Susie connection to this.
Speaker 11 (43:44):
Good.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
When she opened the door, I had no idea who
she was.
Speaker 7 (43:47):
She had an amazing energy and I could.
Speaker 16 (43:48):
Tell her she was really open and she's the experience
boy opened the door. I had no idea who he was.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Thank you for listening to another episode of Broad's next
Door and for still sticking with me, even though I've
been so bad at keeping a schedule. This last month
in particular has been so hard for me. I really
had a hard time just even even functioning like that
level of sadness in this state of the world. Just
(44:17):
wigan a big change, and please follow me on social
media so we can talk about all of that. I
don't think this is something we're gonna, unfortunately be able
to love and light their our way out of I
think it's going to take a lot more than that,
like literal revolution, so should be an interesting next year.
(44:39):
I'm I'm ready for it, though. I'm ready for everything
to just be different and better and out with the old.
That's my psychic prediction for the next year is that
even though things are so so bad right now, that
with things being this horrible, that our eyes will be
opened to so many more injustices and be able to
(45:01):
keep seeing things and make things better instead of looking
away and letting things stay the way that they are.
And even though I think a lot of direct action
will be necessary, a lot needs to happen. Please don't
be hateful with each other. No, please don't turn away
from human suffering. Please don't avoid having hard conversations with
(45:22):
your friends. I know a lot of people say not
to talk about politics, but I don't think this is politics.
I think we just need to have that basic communication
with each other and look out for each other and
not lose our humanity. I love you all a bunch
if you're feeling scared, if you're feeling sad, you can
always DM me or email me. I will always try
(45:43):
my best to talk to you or point you in
the right direction with the right resources. Thank you again
for listening. I feel so sad. Okay, give bye.
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