August 18, 2025 • 59 mins
Put on your black eyeliner and learn how to use the remote control because today we're getting a broader understanding of all things The Osbournes. How they changed reality television forever, the darkness behind the scenes, and the moments of joy along the way.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
The Osborne is the demitted king of heavy metal rocks.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
The global impression on my dad was the suicide encouraging
Satanists from the.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Eighties talking about the paper would come into that.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
House and be like, is this going on all the time.
We would go what.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
We just do? What we're doing? Many of people would say,
you have.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
To film this.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Please don't get drunk or get something.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If you have six red cotton up. The hottest show
on television these days is on MG The Osborne.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
The Osborne's The Osborne.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
This tax heavy metal locker as a sitcom patriarch.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
Well, it isn't exactly father that I was.
Speaker 8 (01:07):
My Hello, neighbors, lovers, friends, and anyone who's ever mumbled
their way through a family meeting in a thick Birmingham accent.
I'm Danielli Scrima and this is Broad's next door. Put
on your eyeliner, grab your bat snacks, and brace yourself,
(01:27):
because today we're getting a broader understanding of the Osbornes,
the Prince of Darkness, the man who gave us Iron
Man Crazy Train and ended up becoming one of television's
most beloved TV dads.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
He passed away.
Speaker 8 (01:43):
So this is a little homage to him, but also
to one of the very first reality television shows, especially
in this style.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Without the Osborns, we wouldn't have.
Speaker 8 (01:55):
The Real Housewives, the Kardashians, and so many other things
that we love and hate to watch. Hi, Hello, how
is everyone? It has been a while. I hope you
are doing well.
Speaker 9 (02:09):
We're back.
Speaker 8 (02:10):
It's officially season four, so I thought we'd get back
to a little bit of our reality TV roots. How
with how the show started, I have a lot of
more like depressing episodes planned for this week, so this
will break it up nicely, And since Ozzy Osmoren passed
away recently, it feels like an appropriate thing to do,
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especially since this was one of the first reality TV shows.
Speaker 10 (02:36):
I mean, there was already the real world.
Speaker 8 (02:38):
We'll get into all of that, but as far as
going inside a family's home the way we did this
led to the newlyweds. It really just changed up the landscape.
And though so many people knew Ozzy for his music, rightfully,
so many of us, especially those of us who grew
up watching the Osbournes, knew him as something even more unexpected.
(03:00):
Did this amazing TV dad, A Gothic Danny Tanner. He
may have been incomprehensible half the time, but he was there, loving, bumbling,
full of affection, sometimes confused, occasionally pantsless, always Ozzy.
Speaker 11 (03:15):
We do have breaking news from the world of entertainment.
We have received word that music legend Ozzy Osbourne has died. Osbourne,
as you know, pioneered heavy metal music with Black Sabbath
before going on to have huge success in his own right.
He was known for hits including Iron Man, Paranoid Warpigs,
Crazy Train of Course, and Bark at the Moon, both
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with the band and as a solo star. His death
comes just weeks after reuniting with his Black Sabbath bandmates
and performing a massive farewell concert for fans in his
hometown of Birmingham, England.
Speaker 12 (03:52):
He had been.
Speaker 11 (03:52):
Diagnosed with Parkinson's disease in twenty nineteen, and in a
statement his family said that he was surrounded my love
twenty passed. Ozzy Osbourne was seventy six years old.
Speaker 9 (04:05):
This is from biography. Grammy winning singer Ozzy Osbourne rose
to fame in the nineteen seventies as the frontman of
the seminal heavy metal band Black Sabbath, delivering such iconic
songs as Warpig, iron Man and Paranoid. After the band
fired him in nineteen seventy nine, the British singer embarked
on a successful solo career, earning attention for his outrageous
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public acts and drawing the ear of conservative groups. Osbourne
later garnered a new legion of fans by starring with
his family in the unlikely hit reality show The Osborns
from two thousand and two to two thousand and five.
The legendary rocker, who had Parkinson's disease for more than
two decades, died at age seventy six in July twenty
twenty five. He was born John Michael Osborne on December third,
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nineteen forty eight, in Birmingham, England. He was married to
Thelma Riley from nineteen seventy one to nineteen eighty two,
but in nineteen eighty two he married Sharon Osbourne and
Sharon kind of changed everything. This is from the Untold
Story of the Osborne's and Price of Fame, Season one,
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episode two. From A and E.
Speaker 12 (05:14):
Osborne is the mastermind behind not only Ozzy Osborne's career,
but this whole series.
Speaker 13 (05:18):
It was meant to be for three weeks, but it
became three years.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Reality TV hadn't been defined, but we were the first
reality family.
Speaker 14 (05:28):
Sound it's like a sitcom, but it's their real life.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
The cameras in their home.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Here is this rock god.
Speaker 15 (05:34):
You'd think his life must be so different than mine.
Speaker 16 (05:37):
Guess what it's not.
Speaker 13 (05:43):
It was going to start a whole new way of
doing TV.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
There would be no Kardashians if it wasn't for what
we did.
Speaker 13 (05:52):
You and your brother, Jack's famous teenagers on the planet.
Speaker 17 (05:56):
Jack and I were under so much brutiny, in so
much pressure.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
People would tell me I looked like Kelly Osborne senior
year because I had pink hair, and it would make
me so upset.
Speaker 10 (06:05):
I'm sorry, Kelly.
Speaker 12 (06:07):
The Osbourne's was really the first show to truly pull
back the curtain on celebrity. Here was a real family
going through their real problems on television.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
When you're doing stuff in the public eye, it just
magnifies things a lot.
Speaker 16 (06:19):
My entire universe was just fooling.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
The boss shuts up into the stresses. But what goes
up comes.
Speaker 12 (06:26):
To the problem with reality TV is what happens when
it really gets real.
Speaker 18 (06:33):
You can't be on that.
Speaker 16 (06:35):
Fun train to life. Things happen family. The show just
got too much.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
With the thing, with the money, with everything.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
If you had to do it all over again, I
wouldn't do it.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
This episode, as well as many interviews and the Osborne's itself,
are my main sources for this episode.
Speaker 10 (06:57):
I will link to them in the show.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Note that you are the Osborne's because I really did.
And it was not something that I thought I would like,
and then it was something I was like fixated by.
It was just so interesting to watch these families' lives
and it just seemed so real. Honestly, I know a
lot of it wasn't, but it really seemed that way.
Speaker 9 (07:18):
And in the beginning I think it was very, very sincere.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Here's Ozzy talking about TV dads.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It was both they lived, it was.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Perfect, the streets were pristine.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
No girl, he's lifted and he Doug sat down. When
that's not real. People throw up, people love, people crying,
you know, it's.
Speaker 16 (07:43):
Just it's life.
Speaker 13 (07:46):
Before the Osborne's ever happened, MTV called and said, you know,
we wanted to do a crib.
Speaker 10 (07:53):
Your favorite stars are stepping out of the spotlight and
inviting you.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Into their home.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
People have always.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
Had the fixation you had with MTV Cribs. I still
think about the Moby episode where he had like no
furniture in one trinket. I always wonder, like how many
of those houses were really theirs? But MTV Cribs was
a show that aired where you basically went and saw
celebrities homes like they they gave a home tour.
Speaker 10 (08:18):
That was the whole concept.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
But we didn't have social media in the same way
back then. I mean there were blogs and stuff, but
this is pre MySpace.
Speaker 10 (08:27):
Even so, getting to do.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Like these voyeuristic things through a camera verse through just
magazine articles at had such an impact.
Speaker 12 (08:39):
Had a fascination with celebrities, and suddenly here were celebrities
opening their doors and letting the cameras in we.
Speaker 16 (08:44):
Want for your quession.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
He was collecting weird very satany kid.
Speaker 15 (08:50):
Before Cribs, Ozzie was a little bit of a mystery
and what is his persona?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
He's the Prince of darkness.
Speaker 15 (08:55):
And then all of a sudden, it was like, what
is Ozzie like when he's just at home.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
When he's being a dad.
Speaker 18 (09:02):
Everyone expects us to be so weird and so strange
and like.
Speaker 19 (09:05):
Just your dad really sacrificed.
Speaker 16 (09:07):
Animals like the people friend and I was on MTV
every metal from this one. She's playing bleeknin Sync and.
Speaker 13 (09:19):
People just loved it and it was the most requested cribs.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
They just get that.
Speaker 10 (09:25):
I guess they thought that it was a would have
to request episodes because there was.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
So Dad's a weird guy.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I remember MTV shot like a little casting tape.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
He's all those dads where you know they'll take you fishing.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
He's a dad in his own kind of special way.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
We had never been involved with TV or sitcoms or whatever.
Speaker 16 (09:49):
My kids said, what afternoon for them? How though, today
I think I don't want to boring line.
Speaker 17 (09:56):
We had a few meetings with other people in the way.
One person went to to do a scripted show with us.
None of us wanted to do that didn't feel genuine.
And I remember they wanted me to audition to play myself.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
And they have like a whole other daughter, Amy. I
think they'll talk about her, and I.
Speaker 17 (10:11):
Was like, I'm not doing that. We just continued speaking
with MTV.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
We just thought it's spit bowling.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
We started kind of just throwing around ideas and then
we kind of landed on like, well, what if we
did a real world.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Find out what happened?
Speaker 11 (10:24):
Like, but people stop being polite.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
And start getting real the real world.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
They wouldn't exactly that. What if we did a real
world at your guys's house with you?
Speaker 8 (10:33):
I mean, like the whole part of the real World
was that they're strangers.
Speaker 10 (10:36):
So I don't really think that they're that similar.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
But I think that it's just that there's so few
examples of reality television to pull from during this time, and.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
We were all like, Okay, Real World is still really
popular at the time, so Kelly and I were like, yeah,
we'll do it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Kelly and Jack's in a pod, you know, but we
have another dus. I didn't know he's I was saying
that much of she didn't want to be the.
Speaker 16 (11:00):
Long Amy is very reserved.
Speaker 13 (11:04):
When we had the meeting with MTV, she said, now
at that time in her life, it wasn't right for her.
Speaker 10 (11:12):
Amy moved out and then it just kind of started.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Things started moving quickly.
Speaker 17 (11:15):
Before we knew it. We were filming the Osbornes.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
When the moving trucks pulled up to the house, so
did the camera trucks.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Two thousand and one, so like a month after nine eleven.
Speaker 10 (11:31):
It doesn't air until two thousand and two, though.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
That's just wrong. It was awkward because we didn't know
what to do.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I would just be sating here like this on my
computer and there'd be two cameras and that was it,
and they would just fill was our life job. It
was always my dad yelling for us, or the TV
not working, or him not being able to figure are
out something very technical.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And Japanese four lines.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
The clip of Ozzie just not being able to turn
on the TV is just what it just lives in
my head.
Speaker 10 (12:13):
Rent free, you're stuck on the weather channel.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
H stupid.
Speaker 11 (12:27):
We didn't give the owners any week in instruction.
Speaker 20 (12:29):
We give them the AMO controls and then the owners
figure out himself.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Out to work it. So that's how easy it is.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Weeks signal, that's about what's that weeks signal?
Speaker 14 (12:46):
Can you get this?
Speaker 16 (12:48):
This television a world?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I'm a very simple man. You gotta have a computer
doledge to turn the Oh no, no ye.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
They want to know what.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Presdy's one one and as Travis thoughts him, going what
is this?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
So shoot and the nightmare continues and the nightmare continues,
and so it did. Was quickly picked pulled up for
a second season, even though the reviews from critics were mixed.
Here's one from Variety from November twenty fifth, two thousand
and two. The Osbourne's, the most talked about show of
the year, returns a little less nunny, a little more
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self conscious, and after two episodes, Matriarch Sharon Osborne's colon
cancer with a much more serious tone. Round one was
a pure nuthouse affair, a tour of the unbelievable. As
the second season starts, they seem so well normal, or
at least overlea familiar. Ozzie doesn't seem so much like
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he's on tours. He's on a business trip. Sharon and
Ozzie travel to DC for a dinner, at which President
Bush acknowledges the presence of the former Black Sabbath singer. Oh,
I have to play that clip on table right now?
Speaker 13 (14:05):
Is the Osborne The Osbourne's are a cultural phenomenon, and
they're the most successful show we're getting.
Speaker 16 (14:12):
God, I was stunned. I was absolutely stunned.
Speaker 13 (14:16):
Suddenly, all these invites come from all these events. We
were never invited anywhere he's the crazy guy we don't want.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
That was the tree they used to I'm thinking this
is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Washington power brokers, Hollywood stars, Ozzy Osborne.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I'm out of my face.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But the president of the themandas and Ozzy Osburn, I thought,
I need to.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Think about Ozzie is.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
He's made a lot of big hit recordings Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath,
Black Skies and blood Bath and Paradise. Ozzie mom loves
your stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Like any celebrity f on Live.
Speaker 18 (15:01):
I didn't think it was celebrity there on TRL total requests, Live.
Speaker 21 (15:09):
So Close and Daily wont hanging out.
Speaker 15 (15:13):
When Osborne's first premier, people were tuning in to be like, what.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
What is this show?
Speaker 17 (15:19):
She booked me up going to college's appointment.
Speaker 12 (15:22):
But then we started to really like it, feel like
I should not be privy to this.
Speaker 10 (15:27):
It did feel so personal.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's going to lead to anywhere but bad pleasures.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Look at me.
Speaker 12 (15:34):
It was really a sign of the times that Ozzy Osbourne,
of all people, had become the sort of new version
of the TV dat.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
As long as you're living in this house, you ought
not to do any drugs.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
Way more all than time Bill Cosby.
Speaker 17 (15:50):
Bill Cosby is saying television's new favorite family has gone overboard.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Oh why because they're not drugging women unconscious?
Speaker 13 (16:00):
And how Ozzie shouldn't be seen as like, you know,
the new father of America.
Speaker 16 (16:05):
And this is disgraceful.
Speaker 10 (16:06):
Fresh from you, sir, very fresh letter.
Speaker 13 (16:10):
And I just said, how can you say that about
us when.
Speaker 16 (16:13):
Look at what your life is for real.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
Your reputation in history around Hollywood. Nudge nudge, waked.
Speaker 22 (16:21):
Wait, this is before the mainstream knew about this stuffer. Well,
just like as publicly about what Bill Cosby did.
Speaker 12 (16:32):
Change, this was the right family for this era.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
I had never thought so much about how this was
such a post nine to eleven thing. And if you're
too young to remember that, you may not know what
I'm talking about. But the climate just changed so much.
It was literally like everyone went insane. We were going
to war, we were going to destroy the Middle East.
It was such a dark, dark time, and there was
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this kind of morbid unity, like insane, weird, racist Islamophobic unity,
like it.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
Was a fucking horror show.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
So the need for escapism also kicked up too.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
It kind of happened like simultaneously, so you have the Osborne's,
then you have the Newlyweds. MTV is still going with
the Real World and road Roles is still happening soon.
I think we get Survivor than The Biggest Loser, which
I'm working on episode about that too. But it was
just the climate at the time was crazy, crazy, crazy
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train like country time period.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I have his whole theory on the success of the show,
Jack Osborne. After the nine to eleven America was in
such a weird state, and then all of a sudden,
they're turning on TV and they're just kind of seeing
a family which is by all accounts, meant to be different,
doing the exact same.
Speaker 10 (17:55):
Thing they are as they're just like.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
A relatability in the American population to us, and whether
they realized it or not, they were drawn to not
the differences but the similarities in our dynamics.
Speaker 10 (18:08):
I agree with him.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
I agree with you, brethstanding non fiction program reality goes
to Justin Long and Lauren Ambrose. No, not Justin Long,
Zach Braff, sorry.
Speaker 16 (18:20):
Being cool like the underdog to being.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
They all look the same to me.
Speaker 17 (18:25):
Me and my mom looked at each other like this
is insane.
Speaker 16 (18:28):
We didn't want an Emmy for being ourselves.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
So it seemed like this show could honestly go on forever.
But by the time we get to the third season,
things are going to get really, really dark, not just
with forced storylines on screen, which ends up happening with
reality television, but also with what's happening behind the scenes
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of the show.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Good Perfect.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I'm very uncomfortable.
Speaker 16 (19:01):
Kelly's like a butterfly.
Speaker 13 (19:03):
She's in It's fantastic, I love it and successful and
boom it, I want a break.
Speaker 10 (19:11):
She was my favorite whole of it.
Speaker 16 (19:13):
Mom, when do you want the bryon?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Now you want it?
Speaker 16 (19:16):
This week.
Speaker 17 (19:17):
I was so used to my life with the cameras
that it didn't even occur to me that they were
even there.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Cut to six months later.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
And everyone says that with reality TV, and if you've
ever been on camera around filming, it's really this thing
that does happen where there's a whole crew, there's people
with booms and mics and sound guys and lighting, and
then it just it's like you literally stop seeing them.
It just becomes And I mean, they didn't have like
the kind of creative control that the Kardashians have where
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they could go in and just edit anything they wanted out.
Speaker 16 (19:53):
I was on TV.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I felt like such a dumb ass.
Speaker 13 (19:57):
As if she said go give her a hug, she
throws them wobblers all over the place.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
A wobble is a calypsian.
Speaker 21 (20:08):
She released some music that is what it felt like
to be a teenage girl.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
I'm sorry. I got it, Kellie, I got it.
Speaker 16 (20:28):
She's so dramatic. I love her so much. In so
many ways.
Speaker 17 (20:32):
The show brought my family closer together because we were
the only ones who knew what we were going through.
No one at that time you could call up and say, God,
it's getting really stressed.
Speaker 16 (20:42):
Were having these cameras around. I went to the doctor today.
Speaker 13 (20:47):
My blood work is completely clear of cancer and I
finished my treatment in January.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Suns Unstoppable or watch more Bottle Cancer, I'm basically I still.
Speaker 17 (21:04):
Have people coming up to me and saying that it
was because of Mom going through what she went through
on the show that they went to the doctor and
they wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
And we were really rooting for them as an audience,
which I think is something now that there's a lot
of hate watching, like there shows that people hate watch,
and I think that a lot of people tuned into
the Osbourne's initially not knowing if it was going to be.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
A hate watch, but it didn't.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Ended up being that you wanted to see the best
outcome for them.
Speaker 16 (21:33):
That just goes to show Hostrong my mom is.
Speaker 17 (21:38):
It was like the world had been lifted off my
shoulders for a second and then everything was going to
be okay.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
About five minutes until we actually watched Daddy Nervous Nervous
Yeah are you Yeah?
Speaker 13 (21:53):
Ozzie and Kelly were in England promoting their record that
they head out together Ozzie.
Speaker 19 (21:59):
And Kelly osbo with their forthcoming single Changes.
Speaker 13 (22:03):
This was such a weird song and they changed the lyrics
around and it just worked beautifully for a father and daughter.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
I don't know, I think unhappy I can't play the song,
but I think that this was just a weird musical
time where everyone kind of had to have a song
and everything that comes up with reality TV kind of
goes down.
Speaker 13 (22:27):
And couldn't believe it. I'm like, what next? What could
possibly happen?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Now?
Speaker 17 (22:41):
After my dad gone to his accident, My entire universe
was just falling apart.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Your killing.
Speaker 17 (22:49):
I couldn't function without numbing, and the only way I
knew how to do that.
Speaker 16 (22:54):
He's got it.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
He broke like every bone in his body.
Speaker 13 (22:59):
Much Chagne, many kills or anyone.
Speaker 17 (23:07):
I was a severe opioid addict.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You know she's itching her face so badly. Many take
a lot of opiate to itch.
Speaker 13 (23:13):
I must have been in La La Land. I was
in total denial, total denial.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
I think as a viewer, I was also in total
denial too, because it was like, that's a horrible thing
for her brother to say about her.
Speaker 10 (23:26):
I had. This was before I.
Speaker 8 (23:28):
Knew people that were addicts, or before I had ever
been addicted to anything myself.
Speaker 16 (23:33):
Mistley Jacket's not drugs.
Speaker 13 (23:35):
Do you know how we found out about Kelly? A
pap had caught her buying drugs and they sent us
the picture and I showed it to Kelly. She said,
now I was buying jewelry, not drugs, right, And then
she admitted that it was, you know, a drug deal.
Speaker 16 (23:52):
That day we said you're going into rehab.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
We welcome to Larry King live here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Ozzy Osbourne, the rock singer turned reality TV starf and
Sharon Osbourne, his wife and manager more than twenty years.
Speaker 12 (24:03):
What happens on the show starts to become news itself.
They're now on Live TV.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
Airing the film That is So Quick?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
What happened today?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Sharon?
Speaker 13 (24:12):
This morning, we woke up and an English tabloid had
phoned through to our publicist.
Speaker 17 (24:21):
I was sat in the check in of rehab watching
my parents on Larry King Live, so the world knew
I was in the prorided.
Speaker 16 (24:29):
She admitted it.
Speaker 13 (24:30):
After a lot of twisting, she admitted it that she
was a drug user.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yes, very good thing that's happened to the Osbournes. There's
been an equal share of bad things and I was
sharing that cancer yeicfter bike my drug. My son went
into reha we drugs.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Now my daughter is going to read we drug.
Speaker 16 (24:47):
What are you going to do when you come out?
How are you not going to go back to what.
Speaker 13 (24:51):
You were doing? It's amazing that you can get Jack
who gets it first time?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
You're doing right now?
Speaker 10 (24:57):
You don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 16 (25:00):
I clean sober life, you know right?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, I'm just overbearing in rehab.
Speaker 16 (25:07):
It's just been terribly harmed on Kelly.
Speaker 12 (25:10):
The Brady kids never went to rehab. Missus Cleaver never
had cancer. This incredibly quirky, funny sitcom had really become
almost a tragedy.
Speaker 15 (25:23):
After having cameras in your face for every single thing
that goes on, for better and for worse, it just
it kind of felt like they were done, and all
of a sudden, the producers felt compelled to plan storylines,
to plan situations so they could be their most Osborney self.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
They were like, hey, Jack Awsey, you guys haven't done
anything together in a while.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
You guys want to go on a fishing chip.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Sure, And whatever happened happened.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
So they do all this stuff they pretended dog dies like.
It gets weird and not a good way, because it's
not sincere anymore. This is an interview with Kelly Osborne
from Insider.
Speaker 23 (26:12):
She is not and that is quite evident in the
title of her third book, There Is No Blank Secret.
I sat down with Kelly, who took me inside the
darkest times in her life, starting with her addiction to drugs.
Speaker 17 (26:24):
When it came to drugs, the only thing I haven't
done is crack.
Speaker 16 (26:29):
I was just praying for death.
Speaker 20 (26:30):
So whatever I thought wouldn't allow me to wake up,
I was taking because.
Speaker 16 (26:34):
It wasn't a bossie.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
It wasn't like crack one to drugs.
Speaker 20 (26:39):
It was never fun, it was miserable, and it was
a self living, disgusting disguise that wasted the most precious
years of my life.
Speaker 23 (26:51):
Kelly was just thirteen when she took bike it in
for the first time. Three years later, she was taking
fifty pills a day.
Speaker 13 (26:57):
Kelly's just gone into Promises pills.
Speaker 23 (27:01):
By the time she was thirty, she had already done
seven stints in rehab and tuesdays at a mental institution.
Speaker 16 (27:07):
Is sobriety still?
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Some of the struggle with daily? How does that?
Speaker 16 (27:10):
I don't call myself.
Speaker 20 (27:11):
Sober, Okay, I'm not in the program.
Speaker 17 (27:13):
I jun't do drugs.
Speaker 16 (27:16):
I know how miserable it is.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Thirty two year old, I'm not in the program, and
I call myself sober. I don't think that's really a requirement.
I think being sober is not doing drugs or alcohol.
Speaker 23 (27:29):
Opening up about her dark past and her new family.
Tell all like the time she cleaned up Ozzie's vomit
off the floor during one of his binges.
Speaker 17 (27:36):
I've done it for my mom, done it for my
brother Tenant, for everyone in my family.
Speaker 23 (27:41):
She were such a young girl and you just you're
cleaning up your.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Mind too.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Wow.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
My dad is my hero.
Speaker 16 (27:50):
He always will be.
Speaker 17 (27:51):
I I love him, I know personally, the struggle of addiction.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Sharon talking about depression.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Cancer twice, if an engine depressed, I think you said
fairly seriously depressed, what have you learned by surviving those
and coming out here there end again?
Speaker 13 (28:13):
Depression isn't something for me. And the sort of depression
I have.
Speaker 16 (28:19):
That goes away.
Speaker 13 (28:20):
You deal with it and you learn how to live
with it and how to manage it. And it's something
that a lot of people don't understand, depression. They don't
understand that it is an illness. It's an illness and
it has to be treated daily. You can't just say, well,
I have depression, haha, this.
Speaker 16 (28:40):
Is it, you know. You can't. If you want a.
Speaker 13 (28:42):
Function and you need to work on it, you need
to be educated to the condition that you have, and
you have to be medicated. And if you're not medicated,
you're just going to destroy yourself.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
And about the two cancers, Yeah, what did you learn
going through those.
Speaker 13 (29:02):
It puts everything for me, everything in the right order.
Speaker 16 (29:08):
Everything.
Speaker 13 (29:09):
It made me realize that what I do for a living,
the world that I live in.
Speaker 16 (29:14):
Is so tiny.
Speaker 13 (29:15):
It's so small, it's so insignificant. It's nothing. It's fun,
it's a blessing, it's a gift. But there are people
out there that make such a difference in the world.
The doctors, the nurses, and that's what really is big
time that much.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
I really like when she's transparent and warrantable. I want
to see, like to find her Barbara Walters, and because
I think that was actually one of the pretty good ones.
Speaker 13 (29:42):
And people who I didn't even know were writing me
and wishing me well. And then you realize, my goodness,
there are so many good people in this world, so
many people that care, that take a minute to write
you a letter to say I don't know you, but
I wish you well, and it it opens your eyes
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to a whole at the side of the world that
you wouldn't necessarily be a part of.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
I can't go through well, I put it the way.
I don't want to go through the whole list of
health problems that the family has, but just give me
and give the audience an overview health problems yourself asie
with children.
Speaker 16 (30:23):
There's quite a bit to go through.
Speaker 13 (30:25):
It's what my son has.
Speaker 16 (30:28):
My son has a heart condition.
Speaker 13 (30:32):
I've had cancer twice and I suffer terribly with depression.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Okay, And he came into my father's office for management
with Black Sabbath.
Speaker 13 (30:46):
So I was eighteen when I first met him. Love
it personally, No, no, not at all. I was like,
oh Lord, look at them.
Speaker 16 (30:55):
And they were all odd and.
Speaker 13 (30:56):
Hairy, and because I've been used to dealing with artists
that were American and they were slick, and they were
really put together and they smelt nice, and you know,
suddenly these guys come in and they're hairy, and they're
very you know, from the North of England, and they
don't look or dressed like anything I've ever seen, and
(31:17):
so I was very nervous of them.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Well, given that first impression, how in the world anything
ever developed.
Speaker 13 (31:24):
I went to see their show that night with my father.
They performed at this club in London, and I was
so in awe of what I was seeing. Again, I
hadn't seen anything like that, because all the artists that
we had dealt with were very slick and a different
category of music, different genre of music, just totally different.
Speaker 16 (31:44):
And then when I saw and how.
Speaker 13 (31:46):
Electric it was and how different, I was like blown away.
Speaker 16 (31:51):
I was like whoa.
Speaker 13 (31:53):
So that's when I became interested in Black Sabbath.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
And they had darker times too. This is from sixty minutes.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Well, you are a living legend. It's official, isn't it. Yeah.
Speaker 24 (32:07):
Here in the bells of his Californian mansion, Ozzie Osborne
is showing off his new sound studio Ozzie.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
To a whole new generation.
Speaker 24 (32:20):
Why the hell would you let cameras into your house
to film the Osborne It was.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
An experiment that went over the time. I mean, people
would come to our house and.
Speaker 16 (32:28):
Go, is he always like this? And we'd go why Why?
Speaker 5 (32:34):
To us, it was normal.
Speaker 16 (32:35):
So people would go, this is incredible.
Speaker 14 (32:37):
I love you all.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
I love you more than low.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
So the kids were there was teenage years where they
were interesting.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
You know.
Speaker 13 (32:48):
We had Jack would strum up and down the house
in commando gear and a paintball gun, and Kelly was,
you know, out at clubs all night. And it was
just that time. It was magic the family and it
was entertaining to watch.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
At the height of your addiction. How bad did it get?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I mean, how about you?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I mean that I was arrested for attempted murder.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I didn't know what I was talking about.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Can I just stop it? Attempted murder?
Speaker 16 (33:20):
Right?
Speaker 10 (33:20):
I didn't know remember.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Any of it. I can remember going to a restaurant
and that's about it.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Sharan, you remember it obviously.
Speaker 16 (33:29):
We came home from the restaurant.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
That morning for whatever is coming downstairs.
Speaker 16 (33:36):
He's got his underpants on.
Speaker 13 (33:38):
I thought he was ready for bed, and suddenly he
just said we've made a decision. And I'm like, weave yes,
and you've got to die. And I'm like, okay, all.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Right, And so what did he do?
Speaker 13 (33:50):
Then he lunged on me and you know, got me
down to the floor and started strangling me.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
How close did it get?
Speaker 16 (33:58):
Pretty damn close?
Speaker 10 (34:00):
Is insane?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That was like someone who put in a red poker
to the middle of my spine. You know, it's like,
you know, it was my worst and still that didn't
stop me drinking.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Know why didn't that stop be drinking?
Speaker 9 (34:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 24 (34:13):
You've lived through an attempted murder you've lived through affairs,
you've lived through domestic violence at other times, chronic alcoholism.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Why did you stay?
Speaker 10 (34:24):
Because you know, why did you stay?
Speaker 13 (34:26):
The time people would look at Ossie and they'd look
at me, and they'd think, oh, she's so straight, so
like house wifey. You know what's the connection here with
the way I'd been brought up?
Speaker 16 (34:38):
Ossie was quite normally. I didn't think he was.
Speaker 8 (34:41):
And that's such an unfortunate thing. If you're brought up
with violence and you see something like this, or you
go through something like this, it's, well, all the people
that loved me while I was growing up did things
like this, So it gets really hard to discern that
that's not a part of what love should be. Nobody
should be choking you and trying to kill you. But
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if those are the examples you saw, it gets so
hard to distinguish. It's so hard to distinguish because it's
what you're used to, and you think, well, my parents
loved me, my grandparents loved my parents, and the cycle
of abuse just kind of continues in that way because
it's so much harder to distinguish that that's just not
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this normal part of love. That's just not this normal
thing that everyone does. Everyone isn't just enraged and beating
on their children.
Speaker 16 (35:34):
Extreme in any way. And I love him.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Has the domestic balance stopped? Oh absolutely now?
Speaker 16 (35:39):
I beat thee down him.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
So much worse than biting a head off a bat,
in my opinion. And it kind of makes you realize
why Amy, the daughter who was older, maybe didn't want
to be on the show. And here she is talking
to Barbara Walters.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
I say, everyone wonders about it. For the first time,
Daughter Amy speaks.
Speaker 25 (36:02):
Out when continues, what do your most want people to
know about you?
Speaker 19 (36:13):
That I'm not some weirdo, depressed daughter that's afraid of.
Speaker 21 (36:17):
The world that locks herself in her room all day.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
Next there may be no secrets in the Osborne family,
but there is a mystery, and her name is Amy,
the daughter who moved out of the house rather than
take part in the Osborne Show. But tonight Amy returns
home to talk for the first time publicly about her
feelings and her family. More than you saw on TV.
Speaker 10 (36:41):
The worst stuff.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Amy, You've never done an interview before, and I know
you want to keep your privacy. On the other hand,
what do you most want people to know?
Speaker 19 (36:48):
About you, that I'm not some weirdo, depressed daughter that's
afraid of the world that locks herself in her room
all day. You know, I just didn't choose to do
the show. That's the only thing that I think that
that's different about me and my family.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Why would you not want to participate with the rest
of the family.
Speaker 19 (37:08):
It's kind of like, Okay, I want to be a singer,
and people.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Would talk about it so strangely though, they'd be like,
he there's another daughter. It was kind of like it
was this secret thing, like I don't even know if
they addressed it on the show. I don't I don't remember.
I've been rewatching episodes and it has not come up.
Speaker 19 (37:29):
And I felt if I would have stayed with the
Osborne and done the whole Osbonne thing, I felt as
maybe I would have been typecasted right away before I
had a chance to experience other things.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
Was my man, when you decided not to participate.
Speaker 19 (37:41):
She was hurt and we definitely had our rough times
for a couple of months without disagreements, But it really
was nothing to do with me not loving them and
not you know, wanting the world to that I am
a part of this family.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Do you have any regrets?
Speaker 19 (37:56):
No, I really don't because I'm all reserved and my
private life to me is very important.
Speaker 16 (38:01):
So it didn't feel right.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
And that is a priceless thing to be able to
keep your private life, to be able to go to
the store and buy milk or drive your car without
being followed by paparazzi. So even though she didn't get
that kind of recognition, there's definitely two sides to that.
Even though maybe she didn't get to do the music
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career that she wanted or all the things that she wanted,
how many of us have being able to retain your
private life and that private side. I mean, that's definitely
still worth something. And I want to play a little
bit of the Barbara Walters Sharon Osbourne interview.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Supposedly who had a meeting with record executives and Ozzie
bit off the head of a dove. Did you say
to him, we'll go.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
In and go bite off ahead of a dove.
Speaker 13 (38:52):
No, he was meant to take them out of his
pockets as a show of peace because the record company
really didn't want Ozzie, and we knew it.
Speaker 10 (39:01):
There was a dove had a bag.
Speaker 16 (39:04):
Man just made Ozzie do that, and didn't you think
he was nuts?
Speaker 7 (39:09):
No, that was just fine.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
Yeah, Marshall Walters is more respectable in his interview, like
a lot.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
Of pale compared to what happened later in an act
that forever sealed Ozzie's wild image and still stands as
one of the rock's most bizarre moments. Did you tell
Ozzie to bite the head off the bat on stage?
Speaker 8 (39:32):
No?
Speaker 13 (39:33):
After the Duve incident, kids thought that it was cool
to bring in all these animals for Ozzie, so they
would bring in chickens.
Speaker 16 (39:40):
I mean, we've had.
Speaker 13 (39:41):
Great big frogs on stage, this big everything.
Speaker 16 (39:44):
They would throw up at him, and he thought.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
It was a toy bat, so he bit the head
off the bat.
Speaker 16 (39:51):
That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 13 (39:52):
And I'm like, you're not kissing me, You're going for rape.
I was like, there is no way, so he had.
Speaker 16 (39:59):
To so for a course of raby shots.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Like many drugstores, Azzi had a reputation for very heavy
drinking and drugs. M Hm, did you drink and do drugs?
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Didn't you?
Speaker 13 (40:11):
When I first started to go out with Ozzie seventeen
nine eighty, I would drink to keep up with Ozzie.
My body just can't handle it. So I was a
terrible drunk, and we used to end up having the
worst fights. And it got to the point where it
was so bad that I had to say, I just
have to stop, because we're going to end up in
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the gut of you.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Stop the drinking.
Speaker 16 (40:34):
Yeah, and the drugs. M h.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Ozzie couldn't couldn't.
Speaker 13 (40:37):
No try oh as he's been trying for so long FI,
but he's just got this demon inside of him. He
just can't get rid of these little people that live
in his head.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Where do they say? These people?
Speaker 16 (40:52):
He tells me?
Speaker 13 (40:53):
They say, you know, he's no good, He's a failure,
he's useless, He's this, he's that. Have a drink, have this,
have a that, And he just every day he wakes
up and he tries to fight, and some days he wins,
and some days he doesn't.
Speaker 8 (41:06):
He's so tied about me, Like everything seen returns.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Is that one much publicized tom when Ozzie tried.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
To Tari Did everyone know about this?
Speaker 8 (41:21):
Everyone know about this means I feel like everyone knew
about this except me.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
This mysterious member of the Osborne family is the one
whom few people have seen because she chose not to
be a part of the MTV show.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
So I think the domestic violence thing was something that
literally everyone knew but me, But I'm like very disturbed,
disturbed by it. It must have been like heavily publicized
at the time, but when the Osbourne's was on, I
don't remember.
Speaker 9 (41:49):
Anyone talking about that.
Speaker 8 (41:51):
And it's hard to like put that in part of
the legacy because I just always saw him as such
a good TV dad. Here's Jack Osborne on Entertainment Tonight.
Speaker 26 (42:05):
One week after this emotional family moment and Ozzie Osborne's
memorial son, Jack admits his heart is still full of
so much sadness and sorrow.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
I don't think anything happens without a reason.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
The universe was like, you know, you know, doesn't give
us anything we can't handle.
Speaker 16 (42:29):
In his first public statement since his dad's death.
Speaker 26 (42:31):
The thirty nine year old also shared this touching look
back at their time together, and Jack even counted fourteen thousand,
five hundred and one day's a journey he calls a blessing.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
How cool is it having Assie as a dad? Very cool?
Speaker 26 (42:44):
And everyone gets to experience that the tribute includes never
before seen moments of the late rock legend cuddling and
laughing with Jack's four young daughters.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Or I'm to spend some of the time with them.
Speaker 26 (42:58):
Plus outtakes from Jack and Ozzie's TV adventures.
Speaker 16 (43:10):
Remember.
Speaker 26 (43:10):
More than a decade after the Osbourne's, the father son
duo starred in the travel show Ozzie and Jack's World
Detour Each He sat down with the family in twenty
twenty two years after they wrapped the third and final season.
Speaker 14 (43:22):
I feel so lucky that we got to have three
years where we just traveled and did like the dumbest things,
And like, you look back on that now and you're like, oh,
what I would give right now to being an ave
do it something stupid, you know, But my dad.
Speaker 12 (43:36):
He's going in Look at that, Dad, why'd you love
to do that in prison?
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Even though people see him as Ozzie, he's your dad.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
What does he mean?
Speaker 14 (43:45):
At the stage that I'm in now, it's like as
a father, you know, your parent kind of becomes more
of your kind of roadmap.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Well will often reflect.
Speaker 14 (43:54):
On lessons my dad told me through life and see
how I can implement that, you know, into my own house.
Speaker 26 (44:04):
And while he eventually stopped touring to spend more time
with family, Ozzie certainly never slowed down.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
I'll live three lives in trying in the last forty years,
you know, in my live.
Speaker 26 (44:15):
Seventeen days before his death in July, he was on
stage performing for forty five thousand fans at his farewell show.
Jack and his girls, decked out in black Sabbath merch
were quote mesmerized, the final.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Life ended on the stage, so be it.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
That's a bunch.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
That's the place that I'll be long.
Speaker 26 (44:36):
Jack reminding fans that his dad lived his life fully
with this quote from late journalist Hunter S. Thompson, life
should not be a journey to the grave with the
intention of arriving safely, but rather a skid in bronze
side and a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally
worn out, and loudly proclaiming, Wow, what a ride.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
I don't know how I feel about that quote, but
it seems like this the family is really struggling with
the death right now. There was supposed to be a
BBC documentary released and it got pulled at the last minute.
There's a lot of interviews articles right now about how
much Sharon is struggling, and I don't really want to
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touch on that. It just feels like a little too dark,
and there's already been some pretty dark stuff in this
So why don't we end with some clips from the
Osborns from a time where it seemed like everything was
fine even though it wasn't, which was a perfect reflection
of the world at that time. And I think one
of the reasons that it's such a popular show to
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rewatch now. I know a lot of people were really
shocked at Ozzie's passing and had a hard time with
his death. I was really surprised and I got sad too,
So I get that people are people are complicated. They're
not just one moment.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
No nobody wants are So do you want a resourcer?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
No, I'd actually don't want to read out stay earlier.
Speaker 16 (46:01):
I'm read you're start eating a burritos three times day.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
I am garizo.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Man, it's not illegal.
Speaker 16 (46:17):
It's not illegal.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
You're not small.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Pocket knife blades.
Speaker 8 (46:20):
Are bigger than that.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
You can't go out. I'm stilly.
Speaker 16 (46:23):
It's a one inch blade. You can't you know.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
I'm taking no dad. If you get busted.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
I'll fucking bust your eyes. Okay, don't go out with
a fucking shirt.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
With cocaine and your fucking T shirt and the FU
give me the fucking night.
Speaker 16 (46:47):
I hate Jack.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
What do you say?
Speaker 16 (46:50):
I hate Jack?
Speaker 5 (46:52):
Oh, don't be stupid.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
When enough Ghanistan two thousand degrees.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
The fucking stuck on the WA channel, fucking sa.
Speaker 10 (47:08):
I already played baseline.
Speaker 18 (47:11):
I could see like something in the back house and
then I opened the door and it was pitched back,
and then something jumped on me and took me to
the floor, and it was one of my brother's friends.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Let s don't get my ass.
Speaker 16 (47:26):
Don't get my ass.
Speaker 18 (47:27):
And then I could hear all like this morning in
front of like what the fuck is that?
Speaker 16 (47:30):
And I'm like, no, this is wrong.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
And I turned on the light.
Speaker 18 (47:36):
And it was like this twenty seven year old girl
and my brother said the biggest smile on his face,
and I was just like, oh, God, get me out
of here now.
Speaker 25 (47:47):
If I beat out, you get.
Speaker 13 (47:54):
The night of golling.
Speaker 11 (47:56):
Okay, guys, Ozzie, I know it's working because I'm even
feeling it.
Speaker 16 (48:09):
No, why don't you take your rest? I think we'll
feel better.
Speaker 8 (48:32):
Ozzie's cause of death was a heart attack, and he
was battling with Parkinson's disease for a long time, I
believe since two thousand and three, So while this show
was still on, which is just crazy, but we have
George W. Bush calling himy Osbourne. Do you ever miss
that war criminal? I do sometimes, which is like something
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I never thought I'd say in a million years. He
got a really good edit, George W. Bush, the Painter.
But this was just such a period of pop culture.
It gave us so many things that we wouldn't have
had without it. The Newlyweds, all the family reality shows
that came afterward, like pretty much all the stuff we
watch on TV that's not a competition show, vander Pump Rules.
Speaker 10 (49:18):
I mean, like a lot of that. We have to
give credit to.
Speaker 8 (49:22):
The Osbournes, Brittany and Kevin, Chaotic, like all that early
reality TV, the Being Bobby Brown, all.
Speaker 10 (49:31):
Of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
I think that all came from the success of the Osbourne's,
and it seemed like they would have struggled either way,
that there were a lot of personal demons, but having
it all on camera, hopefully It's like there's also a
lot of laughing. There's a lot of joy, and hopefully
that's something they get to have forever instead of just
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these traumatizing moments too. Hopefully they're all able to heal
from his death. But do you ever really heal from
losing a parent or a partner?
Speaker 9 (50:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (50:07):
I don't know that yet.
Speaker 8 (50:09):
I will try and remember Ozzie fondly, even though it's
harder after learning a lot of that information. But we're
not just the worst things we ever did. And addiction
is a hell of a disease, it really, it really is.
Speaker 9 (50:25):
But still hard to know, you know.
Speaker 8 (50:29):
Just this is one of the things that happens when
I research in real time with you, because I kind
of like having the reactions.
Speaker 10 (50:36):
But this is why it's.
Speaker 8 (50:37):
Better when I like read biographies and things beforehand. And
I did watch a lot of interviews and episodes of
the Osbornes, but it didn't lay out like the worst parts.
I knew about Kelly's addiction, I knew about Ozzie's addiction.
I knew about Sharon's drinking and her cancer and her
depression and all of that from the show, But like
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the whole domestic of violence aspect still kind of jarring
to me, But you know, this show still has its
place in the zeitgeist in our memories. It's very rewatchable,
it was very original while still being its own, its
own relatable thing. Like the the Whole Stars, they're just
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like us thing. They have the same family fights and
disputes and acts of love and trying to do better
than your parents did before. I think that's something everyone
who's dealt with abuse kind of deals with like a whole.
It ends with us without Blake Lively situation of like,
eventually the pattern has to stop somewhere, And with things
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like addiction, it's it's really hard.
Speaker 10 (51:46):
It's really hard.
Speaker 8 (51:47):
Same with abuse, it's really it's really hard. Things become
normal to us that should never be normal. But at
the same time, you have this incredibly watchable show where
Ozzie was hilarious and just really did seem like such
a great dad, and the way his kids have spoken
about him, how he went on toured, made an album
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with Kelly, then him and Jack had a show and
did all of these things together, and the Osbourne's rewatch
and all of that stuff. So it's very, very multifaceted,
more than just biting the heads off of animals and
being incomprehensible all of the time. Definitely a complicated, complicated thing,
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But I think the reruns will will resonate for a
really long time. There's just sincere moments of joy in there,
and you know, joy is always going to be a
super powerful, powerful thing. I think it the light outweighs
the darkness for the Prince of Darkness. But let me
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know your thoughts, let me know what you think. I
know this had a lot of interviews and clips, but
when someone recently dies, I feel like it's really important
to hear from them and hear from their family and
hear these first hand accounts instead of just talking about them.
So I hope that was okay with you. I'm a
little rusty on our way back. Tomorrow I will have
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an episode out with Kristen from Creative Sobriety where we
talk about turning forty getting sober in our thirties. So
we kind of have an addiction theme going going on
this week. Later in the later in episode, later in
the week of an episode coming out with the author
(53:40):
Luke Goebel, where we talk about Luigi Mangioni and also
his book Luke's book Killed Dick, which talks a lot
about addiction and rehab and the opioid epidemic and the
drug industry, and so we do have a bit of
an addiction behind the scenes the happening happening this week,
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which was unintentional, but I guess it's something that's always
kind of on my mind. You know.
Speaker 10 (54:09):
Addiction is like that.
Speaker 8 (54:11):
It's it's so layered, it's so complicated. It lingers, It
really freaking lingers, even after you're sober. It's not just
the things you did, it's the things other people did
and how they felt and how all of that lasts
and goes on. And then also all the people we
lost because of addiction they kind of linger too. So
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a lot to talk about, a lot to get into
for season four. Send me episodes for some lighter ideas,
some lighter stuff, because I need that, because my mind
always goes to these places of let's talk about the
darkest thing we possibly can. Like I'm doing an episode
about the Biggest Loser, an episode about people having AI
boyfriends because I came across this Reddit community called my
(54:58):
boyfriend is Ai and I just read their posts for
like hours and to me, it's like the darkest parts
of the human condition and the loneliness epidemic and all
of that, and I'd like to cover some some lighter
things too. Even when I started doing a Love Island episode,
I don't watch Love Island, but I was trying to
because people kept recrossing episodes on it, and then all
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I came across was the Love Island suicides and how
many people have taken their own lives who've been on
that show. So there is this darkness that always comes
with reality TV.
Speaker 10 (55:32):
There is this.
Speaker 9 (55:33):
Just underlying darkness.
Speaker 8 (55:36):
Have a botox episode coming out with my esthetic doctor,
Doctor Wiggins. Is botox ruining the world or does it
have benefits? So that's a little that's a little bit
lighter and kind of funny, but also talking about like
plastic surgery, addiction and all of that and needs to
be perfect. So send me ideas for lighter things things.
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Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
Broad's Next Door. I can't believe we made it to
season four. Did this show really start in.
Speaker 16 (56:10):
Twenty twenty two?
Speaker 5 (56:11):
That can't be right.
Speaker 8 (56:11):
It had to be twenty twenty three, right, right? Was
it twenty twenty four. No, No, it wasn't twenty twenty four,
But was it twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three?
And how can I not remember that it was? It
was October of twenty twenty two, So that's crazy. That's
just nuts to me that it's going to come out. Yeah,
that's such a such a long time, but I'm loving
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it still.
Speaker 10 (56:36):
I'm really feeling it still.
Speaker 8 (56:38):
It's been you know, it's been interesting after having a
co host and having them quit, and then not even
knowing if I was going to be able to go
on with the show, and then being able to go
on with the help of all of you and with
the help of guests. It's just been a really incredible experience.
Not to be cheesy, but it's changed my life in
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a lot of amazing ways.
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But I'm going to try and start using the Broad's
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so you can find me all over the place. Really,
I'm constant online. My screen time is like thirteen hours
a day.
Speaker 16 (58:03):
It's disgusting. It's disgusting.
Speaker 8 (58:07):
If I'm gonna drink some coffee, I'm gonna edit my
episode with Kristen, which is almost done, just got to
add some music to it. And you know this, five
episodes a week schedule is pretty brutal. I might have
to scale back to like Tuesdays through Fridays or Mondays
through Thursdays, because doing five a week is a lot
(58:29):
for me. Since I record everything myself, I edit everything myself,
I also have to I would start outsourcing more. I've
got an office i'm moving into, which is the.
Speaker 10 (58:38):
Room next door.
Speaker 5 (58:39):
So I'm gonna be doing a.
Speaker 8 (58:40):
Lot more video episodes and just.
Speaker 5 (58:44):
Having like a.
Speaker 10 (58:46):
Space for broads.
Speaker 8 (58:47):
I'm gonna get like a little sign and everything, and
I think that will help too, because I record in
my room, and it just it gets to be a lot,
it gets it gets to be a lot. But I
still would rather be doing this than anything else. I
mean that very much. I love you very much. Thank
you so so much for listening. I will talk to
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you very soon. Goodbye.
The Osborne is the demitted king of heavy metal rocks.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
The global impression on my dad was the suicide encouraging
Satanists from the.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Eighties talking about the paper would come into that.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
House and be like, is this going on all the time.
We would go what.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
We just do? What we're doing? Many of people would say,
you have.
Speaker 6 (00:38):
To film this.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Please don't get drunk or get something.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If you have six red cotton up. The hottest show
on television these days is on MG The Osborne.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
The Osborne's The Osborne.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
This tax heavy metal locker as a sitcom patriarch.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
Well, it isn't exactly father that I was.
Speaker 8 (01:07):
My Hello, neighbors, lovers, friends, and anyone who's ever mumbled
their way through a family meeting in a thick Birmingham accent.
I'm Danielli Scrima and this is Broad's next door. Put
on your eyeliner, grab your bat snacks, and brace yourself,
(01:27):
because today we're getting a broader understanding of the Osbornes,
the Prince of Darkness, the man who gave us Iron
Man Crazy Train and ended up becoming one of television's
most beloved TV dads.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
He passed away.
Speaker 8 (01:43):
So this is a little homage to him, but also
to one of the very first reality television shows, especially
in this style.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Without the Osborns, we wouldn't have.
Speaker 8 (01:55):
The Real Housewives, the Kardashians, and so many other things
that we love and hate to watch. Hi, Hello, how
is everyone? It has been a while. I hope you
are doing well.
Speaker 9 (02:09):
We're back.
Speaker 8 (02:10):
It's officially season four, so I thought we'd get back
to a little bit of our reality TV roots. How
with how the show started, I have a lot of
more like depressing episodes planned for this week, so this
will break it up nicely, And since Ozzy Osmoren passed
away recently, it feels like an appropriate thing to do,
(02:32):
especially since this was one of the first reality TV shows.
Speaker 10 (02:36):
I mean, there was already the real world.
Speaker 8 (02:38):
We'll get into all of that, but as far as
going inside a family's home the way we did this
led to the newlyweds. It really just changed up the landscape.
And though so many people knew Ozzy for his music, rightfully,
so many of us, especially those of us who grew
up watching the Osbournes, knew him as something even more unexpected.
(03:00):
Did this amazing TV dad, A Gothic Danny Tanner. He
may have been incomprehensible half the time, but he was there, loving, bumbling,
full of affection, sometimes confused, occasionally pantsless, always Ozzy.
Speaker 11 (03:15):
We do have breaking news from the world of entertainment.
We have received word that music legend Ozzy Osbourne has died. Osbourne,
as you know, pioneered heavy metal music with Black Sabbath
before going on to have huge success in his own right.
He was known for hits including Iron Man, Paranoid Warpigs,
Crazy Train of Course, and Bark at the Moon, both
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with the band and as a solo star. His death
comes just weeks after reuniting with his Black Sabbath bandmates
and performing a massive farewell concert for fans in his
hometown of Birmingham, England.
Speaker 12 (03:52):
He had been.
Speaker 11 (03:52):
Diagnosed with Parkinson's disease in twenty nineteen, and in a
statement his family said that he was surrounded my love
twenty passed. Ozzy Osbourne was seventy six years old.
Speaker 9 (04:05):
This is from biography. Grammy winning singer Ozzy Osbourne rose
to fame in the nineteen seventies as the frontman of
the seminal heavy metal band Black Sabbath, delivering such iconic
songs as Warpig, iron Man and Paranoid. After the band
fired him in nineteen seventy nine, the British singer embarked
on a successful solo career, earning attention for his outrageous
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public acts and drawing the ear of conservative groups. Osbourne
later garnered a new legion of fans by starring with
his family in the unlikely hit reality show The Osborns
from two thousand and two to two thousand and five.
The legendary rocker, who had Parkinson's disease for more than
two decades, died at age seventy six in July twenty
twenty five. He was born John Michael Osborne on December third,
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nineteen forty eight, in Birmingham, England. He was married to
Thelma Riley from nineteen seventy one to nineteen eighty two,
but in nineteen eighty two he married Sharon Osbourne and
Sharon kind of changed everything. This is from the Untold
Story of the Osborne's and Price of Fame, Season one,
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episode two. From A and E.
Speaker 12 (05:14):
Osborne is the mastermind behind not only Ozzy Osborne's career,
but this whole series.
Speaker 13 (05:18):
It was meant to be for three weeks, but it
became three years.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Reality TV hadn't been defined, but we were the first
reality family.
Speaker 14 (05:28):
Sound it's like a sitcom, but it's their real life.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
The cameras in their home.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Here is this rock god.
Speaker 15 (05:34):
You'd think his life must be so different than mine.
Speaker 16 (05:37):
Guess what it's not.
Speaker 13 (05:43):
It was going to start a whole new way of
doing TV.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
There would be no Kardashians if it wasn't for what
we did.
Speaker 13 (05:52):
You and your brother, Jack's famous teenagers on the planet.
Speaker 17 (05:56):
Jack and I were under so much brutiny, in so
much pressure.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
People would tell me I looked like Kelly Osborne senior
year because I had pink hair, and it would make
me so upset.
Speaker 10 (06:05):
I'm sorry, Kelly.
Speaker 12 (06:07):
The Osbourne's was really the first show to truly pull
back the curtain on celebrity. Here was a real family
going through their real problems on television.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
When you're doing stuff in the public eye, it just
magnifies things a lot.
Speaker 16 (06:19):
My entire universe was just fooling.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
The boss shuts up into the stresses. But what goes
up comes.
Speaker 12 (06:26):
To the problem with reality TV is what happens when
it really gets real.
Speaker 18 (06:33):
You can't be on that.
Speaker 16 (06:35):
Fun train to life. Things happen family. The show just
got too much.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
With the thing, with the money, with everything.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
If you had to do it all over again, I
wouldn't do it.
Speaker 8 (06:49):
This episode, as well as many interviews and the Osborne's itself,
are my main sources for this episode.
Speaker 10 (06:57):
I will link to them in the show.
Speaker 8 (06:59):
Note that you are the Osborne's because I really did.
And it was not something that I thought I would like,
and then it was something I was like fixated by.
It was just so interesting to watch these families' lives
and it just seemed so real. Honestly, I know a
lot of it wasn't, but it really seemed that way.
Speaker 9 (07:18):
And in the beginning I think it was very, very sincere.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Here's Ozzy talking about TV dads.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
It was both they lived, it was.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Perfect, the streets were pristine.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
No girl, he's lifted and he Doug sat down. When
that's not real. People throw up, people love, people crying,
you know, it's.
Speaker 16 (07:43):
Just it's life.
Speaker 13 (07:46):
Before the Osborne's ever happened, MTV called and said, you know,
we wanted to do a crib.
Speaker 10 (07:53):
Your favorite stars are stepping out of the spotlight and
inviting you.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Into their home.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
People have always.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
Had the fixation you had with MTV Cribs. I still
think about the Moby episode where he had like no
furniture in one trinket. I always wonder, like how many
of those houses were really theirs? But MTV Cribs was
a show that aired where you basically went and saw
celebrities homes like they they gave a home tour.
Speaker 10 (08:18):
That was the whole concept.
Speaker 8 (08:19):
But we didn't have social media in the same way
back then. I mean there were blogs and stuff, but
this is pre MySpace.
Speaker 10 (08:27):
Even so, getting to do.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Like these voyeuristic things through a camera verse through just
magazine articles at had such an impact.
Speaker 12 (08:39):
Had a fascination with celebrities, and suddenly here were celebrities
opening their doors and letting the cameras in we.
Speaker 16 (08:44):
Want for your quession.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
He was collecting weird very satany kid.
Speaker 15 (08:50):
Before Cribs, Ozzie was a little bit of a mystery
and what is his persona?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
He's the Prince of darkness.
Speaker 15 (08:55):
And then all of a sudden, it was like, what
is Ozzie like when he's just at home.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
When he's being a dad.
Speaker 18 (09:02):
Everyone expects us to be so weird and so strange
and like.
Speaker 19 (09:05):
Just your dad really sacrificed.
Speaker 16 (09:07):
Animals like the people friend and I was on MTV
every metal from this one. She's playing bleeknin Sync and.
Speaker 13 (09:19):
People just loved it and it was the most requested cribs.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
They just get that.
Speaker 10 (09:25):
I guess they thought that it was a would have
to request episodes because there was.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
So Dad's a weird guy.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I remember MTV shot like a little casting tape.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
He's all those dads where you know they'll take you fishing.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
He's a dad in his own kind of special way.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
We had never been involved with TV or sitcoms or whatever.
Speaker 16 (09:49):
My kids said, what afternoon for them? How though, today
I think I don't want to boring line.
Speaker 17 (09:56):
We had a few meetings with other people in the way.
One person went to to do a scripted show with us.
None of us wanted to do that didn't feel genuine.
And I remember they wanted me to audition to play myself.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
And they have like a whole other daughter, Amy. I
think they'll talk about her, and I.
Speaker 17 (10:11):
Was like, I'm not doing that. We just continued speaking
with MTV.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
We just thought it's spit bowling.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
We started kind of just throwing around ideas and then
we kind of landed on like, well, what if we
did a real world.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Find out what happened?
Speaker 11 (10:24):
Like, but people stop being polite.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
And start getting real the real world.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
They wouldn't exactly that. What if we did a real
world at your guys's house with you?
Speaker 8 (10:33):
I mean, like the whole part of the real World
was that they're strangers.
Speaker 10 (10:36):
So I don't really think that they're that similar.
Speaker 8 (10:39):
But I think that it's just that there's so few
examples of reality television to pull from during this time, and.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
We were all like, Okay, Real World is still really
popular at the time, so Kelly and I were like, yeah,
we'll do it.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Kelly and Jack's in a pod, you know, but we
have another dus. I didn't know he's I was saying
that much of she didn't want to be the.
Speaker 16 (11:00):
Long Amy is very reserved.
Speaker 13 (11:04):
When we had the meeting with MTV, she said, now
at that time in her life, it wasn't right for her.
Speaker 10 (11:12):
Amy moved out and then it just kind of started.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Things started moving quickly.
Speaker 17 (11:15):
Before we knew it. We were filming the Osbornes.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
When the moving trucks pulled up to the house, so
did the camera trucks.
Speaker 8 (11:27):
Two thousand and one, so like a month after nine eleven.
Speaker 10 (11:31):
It doesn't air until two thousand and two, though.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
That's just wrong. It was awkward because we didn't know
what to do.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I would just be sating here like this on my
computer and there'd be two cameras and that was it,
and they would just fill was our life job. It
was always my dad yelling for us, or the TV
not working, or him not being able to figure are
out something very technical.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And Japanese four lines.
Speaker 8 (12:07):
The clip of Ozzie just not being able to turn
on the TV is just what it just lives in
my head.
Speaker 10 (12:13):
Rent free, you're stuck on the weather channel.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
H stupid.
Speaker 11 (12:27):
We didn't give the owners any week in instruction.
Speaker 20 (12:29):
We give them the AMO controls and then the owners
figure out himself.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Out to work it. So that's how easy it is.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Weeks signal, that's about what's that weeks signal?
Speaker 14 (12:46):
Can you get this?
Speaker 16 (12:48):
This television a world?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I'm a very simple man. You gotta have a computer
doledge to turn the Oh no, no ye.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
They want to know what.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Presdy's one one and as Travis thoughts him, going what
is this?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
So shoot and the nightmare continues and the nightmare continues,
and so it did. Was quickly picked pulled up for
a second season, even though the reviews from critics were mixed.
Here's one from Variety from November twenty fifth, two thousand
and two. The Osbourne's, the most talked about show of
the year, returns a little less nunny, a little more
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self conscious, and after two episodes, Matriarch Sharon Osborne's colon
cancer with a much more serious tone. Round one was
a pure nuthouse affair, a tour of the unbelievable. As
the second season starts, they seem so well normal, or
at least overlea familiar. Ozzie doesn't seem so much like
(13:52):
he's on tours. He's on a business trip. Sharon and
Ozzie travel to DC for a dinner, at which President
Bush acknowledges the presence of the former Black Sabbath singer. Oh,
I have to play that clip on table right now?
Speaker 13 (14:05):
Is the Osborne The Osbourne's are a cultural phenomenon, and
they're the most successful show we're getting.
Speaker 16 (14:12):
God, I was stunned. I was absolutely stunned.
Speaker 13 (14:16):
Suddenly, all these invites come from all these events. We
were never invited anywhere he's the crazy guy we don't want.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
That was the tree they used to I'm thinking this
is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Washington power brokers, Hollywood stars, Ozzy Osborne.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I'm out of my face.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
But the president of the themandas and Ozzy Osburn, I thought,
I need to.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Think about Ozzie is.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
He's made a lot of big hit recordings Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath,
Black Skies and blood Bath and Paradise. Ozzie mom loves
your stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Like any celebrity f on Live.
Speaker 18 (15:01):
I didn't think it was celebrity there on TRL total requests, Live.
Speaker 21 (15:09):
So Close and Daily wont hanging out.
Speaker 15 (15:13):
When Osborne's first premier, people were tuning in to be like, what.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
What is this show?
Speaker 17 (15:19):
She booked me up going to college's appointment.
Speaker 12 (15:22):
But then we started to really like it, feel like
I should not be privy to this.
Speaker 10 (15:27):
It did feel so personal.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's going to lead to anywhere but bad pleasures.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
Look at me.
Speaker 12 (15:34):
It was really a sign of the times that Ozzy Osbourne,
of all people, had become the sort of new version
of the TV dat.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
As long as you're living in this house, you ought
not to do any drugs.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
Way more all than time Bill Cosby.
Speaker 17 (15:50):
Bill Cosby is saying television's new favorite family has gone overboard.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Oh why because they're not drugging women unconscious?
Speaker 13 (16:00):
And how Ozzie shouldn't be seen as like, you know,
the new father of America.
Speaker 16 (16:05):
And this is disgraceful.
Speaker 10 (16:06):
Fresh from you, sir, very fresh letter.
Speaker 13 (16:10):
And I just said, how can you say that about
us when.
Speaker 16 (16:13):
Look at what your life is for real.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
Your reputation in history around Hollywood. Nudge nudge, waked.
Speaker 22 (16:21):
Wait, this is before the mainstream knew about this stuffer. Well,
just like as publicly about what Bill Cosby did.
Speaker 12 (16:32):
Change, this was the right family for this era.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
I had never thought so much about how this was
such a post nine to eleven thing. And if you're
too young to remember that, you may not know what
I'm talking about. But the climate just changed so much.
It was literally like everyone went insane. We were going
to war, we were going to destroy the Middle East.
It was such a dark, dark time, and there was
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this kind of morbid unity, like insane, weird, racist Islamophobic unity,
like it.
Speaker 10 (17:06):
Was a fucking horror show.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
So the need for escapism also kicked up too.
Speaker 8 (17:11):
It kind of happened like simultaneously, so you have the Osborne's,
then you have the Newlyweds. MTV is still going with
the Real World and road Roles is still happening soon.
I think we get Survivor than The Biggest Loser, which
I'm working on episode about that too. But it was
just the climate at the time was crazy, crazy, crazy
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train like country time period.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I have his whole theory on the success of the show,
Jack Osborne. After the nine to eleven America was in
such a weird state, and then all of a sudden,
they're turning on TV and they're just kind of seeing
a family which is by all accounts, meant to be different,
doing the exact same.
Speaker 10 (17:55):
Thing they are as they're just like.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
A relatability in the American population to us, and whether
they realized it or not, they were drawn to not
the differences but the similarities in our dynamics.
Speaker 10 (18:08):
I agree with him.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
I agree with you, brethstanding non fiction program reality goes
to Justin Long and Lauren Ambrose. No, not Justin Long,
Zach Braff, sorry.
Speaker 16 (18:20):
Being cool like the underdog to being.
Speaker 10 (18:22):
They all look the same to me.
Speaker 17 (18:25):
Me and my mom looked at each other like this
is insane.
Speaker 16 (18:28):
We didn't want an Emmy for being ourselves.
Speaker 8 (18:32):
So it seemed like this show could honestly go on forever.
But by the time we get to the third season,
things are going to get really, really dark, not just
with forced storylines on screen, which ends up happening with
reality television, but also with what's happening behind the scenes
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of the show.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Good Perfect.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I'm very uncomfortable.
Speaker 16 (19:01):
Kelly's like a butterfly.
Speaker 13 (19:03):
She's in It's fantastic, I love it and successful and
boom it, I want a break.
Speaker 10 (19:11):
She was my favorite whole of it.
Speaker 16 (19:13):
Mom, when do you want the bryon?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Now you want it?
Speaker 16 (19:16):
This week.
Speaker 17 (19:17):
I was so used to my life with the cameras
that it didn't even occur to me that they were
even there.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Cut to six months later.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
And everyone says that with reality TV, and if you've
ever been on camera around filming, it's really this thing
that does happen where there's a whole crew, there's people
with booms and mics and sound guys and lighting, and
then it just it's like you literally stop seeing them.
It just becomes And I mean, they didn't have like
the kind of creative control that the Kardashians have where
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they could go in and just edit anything they wanted out.
Speaker 16 (19:53):
I was on TV.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I felt like such a dumb ass.
Speaker 13 (19:57):
As if she said go give her a hug, she
throws them wobblers all over the place.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
A wobble is a calypsian.
Speaker 21 (20:08):
She released some music that is what it felt like
to be a teenage girl.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
I'm sorry. I got it, Kellie, I got it.
Speaker 16 (20:28):
She's so dramatic. I love her so much. In so
many ways.
Speaker 17 (20:32):
The show brought my family closer together because we were
the only ones who knew what we were going through.
No one at that time you could call up and say, God,
it's getting really stressed.
Speaker 16 (20:42):
Were having these cameras around. I went to the doctor today.
Speaker 13 (20:47):
My blood work is completely clear of cancer and I
finished my treatment in January.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Suns Unstoppable or watch more Bottle Cancer, I'm basically I still.
Speaker 17 (21:04):
Have people coming up to me and saying that it
was because of Mom going through what she went through
on the show that they went to the doctor and
they wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
And we were really rooting for them as an audience,
which I think is something now that there's a lot
of hate watching, like there shows that people hate watch,
and I think that a lot of people tuned into
the Osbourne's initially not knowing if it was going to be.
Speaker 10 (21:27):
A hate watch, but it didn't.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
Ended up being that you wanted to see the best
outcome for them.
Speaker 16 (21:33):
That just goes to show Hostrong my mom is.
Speaker 17 (21:38):
It was like the world had been lifted off my
shoulders for a second and then everything was going to
be okay.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
About five minutes until we actually watched Daddy Nervous Nervous
Yeah are you Yeah?
Speaker 13 (21:53):
Ozzie and Kelly were in England promoting their record that
they head out together Ozzie.
Speaker 19 (21:59):
And Kelly osbo with their forthcoming single Changes.
Speaker 13 (22:03):
This was such a weird song and they changed the lyrics
around and it just worked beautifully for a father and daughter.
Speaker 8 (22:11):
I don't know, I think unhappy I can't play the song,
but I think that this was just a weird musical
time where everyone kind of had to have a song
and everything that comes up with reality TV kind of
goes down.
Speaker 13 (22:27):
And couldn't believe it. I'm like, what next? What could
possibly happen?
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Now?
Speaker 17 (22:41):
After my dad gone to his accident, My entire universe
was just falling apart.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Your killing.
Speaker 17 (22:49):
I couldn't function without numbing, and the only way I
knew how to do that.
Speaker 16 (22:54):
He's got it.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
He broke like every bone in his body.
Speaker 13 (22:59):
Much Chagne, many kills or anyone.
Speaker 17 (23:07):
I was a severe opioid addict.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You know she's itching her face so badly. Many take
a lot of opiate to itch.
Speaker 13 (23:13):
I must have been in La La Land. I was
in total denial, total denial.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
I think as a viewer, I was also in total
denial too, because it was like, that's a horrible thing
for her brother to say about her.
Speaker 10 (23:26):
I had. This was before I.
Speaker 8 (23:28):
Knew people that were addicts, or before I had ever
been addicted to anything myself.
Speaker 16 (23:33):
Mistley Jacket's not drugs.
Speaker 13 (23:35):
Do you know how we found out about Kelly? A
pap had caught her buying drugs and they sent us
the picture and I showed it to Kelly. She said,
now I was buying jewelry, not drugs, right, And then
she admitted that it was, you know, a drug deal.
Speaker 16 (23:52):
That day we said you're going into rehab.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
We welcome to Larry King live here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Ozzy Osbourne, the rock singer turned reality TV starf and
Sharon Osbourne, his wife and manager more than twenty years.
Speaker 12 (24:03):
What happens on the show starts to become news itself.
They're now on Live TV.
Speaker 10 (24:09):
Airing the film That is So Quick?
Speaker 6 (24:10):
What happened today?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Sharon?
Speaker 13 (24:12):
This morning, we woke up and an English tabloid had
phoned through to our publicist.
Speaker 17 (24:21):
I was sat in the check in of rehab watching
my parents on Larry King Live, so the world knew
I was in the prorided.
Speaker 16 (24:29):
She admitted it.
Speaker 13 (24:30):
After a lot of twisting, she admitted it that she
was a drug user.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yes, very good thing that's happened to the Osbournes. There's
been an equal share of bad things and I was
sharing that cancer yeicfter bike my drug. My son went
into reha we drugs.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Now my daughter is going to read we drug.
Speaker 16 (24:47):
What are you going to do when you come out?
How are you not going to go back to what.
Speaker 13 (24:51):
You were doing? It's amazing that you can get Jack
who gets it first time?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
You're doing right now?
Speaker 10 (24:57):
You don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 16 (25:00):
I clean sober life, you know right?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, I'm just overbearing in rehab.
Speaker 16 (25:07):
It's just been terribly harmed on Kelly.
Speaker 12 (25:10):
The Brady kids never went to rehab. Missus Cleaver never
had cancer. This incredibly quirky, funny sitcom had really become
almost a tragedy.
Speaker 15 (25:23):
After having cameras in your face for every single thing
that goes on, for better and for worse, it just
it kind of felt like they were done, and all
of a sudden, the producers felt compelled to plan storylines,
to plan situations so they could be their most Osborney self.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
They were like, hey, Jack Awsey, you guys haven't done
anything together in a while.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
You guys want to go on a fishing chip.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Sure, And whatever happened happened.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
So they do all this stuff they pretended dog dies like.
It gets weird and not a good way, because it's
not sincere anymore. This is an interview with Kelly Osborne
from Insider.
Speaker 23 (26:12):
She is not and that is quite evident in the
title of her third book, There Is No Blank Secret.
I sat down with Kelly, who took me inside the
darkest times in her life, starting with her addiction to drugs.
Speaker 17 (26:24):
When it came to drugs, the only thing I haven't
done is crack.
Speaker 16 (26:29):
I was just praying for death.
Speaker 20 (26:30):
So whatever I thought wouldn't allow me to wake up,
I was taking because.
Speaker 16 (26:34):
It wasn't a bossie.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
It wasn't like crack one to drugs.
Speaker 20 (26:39):
It was never fun, it was miserable, and it was
a self living, disgusting disguise that wasted the most precious
years of my life.
Speaker 23 (26:51):
Kelly was just thirteen when she took bike it in
for the first time. Three years later, she was taking
fifty pills a day.
Speaker 13 (26:57):
Kelly's just gone into Promises pills.
Speaker 23 (27:01):
By the time she was thirty, she had already done
seven stints in rehab and tuesdays at a mental institution.
Speaker 16 (27:07):
Is sobriety still?
Speaker 5 (27:08):
Some of the struggle with daily? How does that?
Speaker 16 (27:10):
I don't call myself.
Speaker 20 (27:11):
Sober, Okay, I'm not in the program.
Speaker 17 (27:13):
I jun't do drugs.
Speaker 16 (27:16):
I know how miserable it is.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Thirty two year old, I'm not in the program, and
I call myself sober. I don't think that's really a requirement.
I think being sober is not doing drugs or alcohol.
Speaker 23 (27:29):
Opening up about her dark past and her new family.
Tell all like the time she cleaned up Ozzie's vomit
off the floor during one of his binges.
Speaker 17 (27:36):
I've done it for my mom, done it for my
brother Tenant, for everyone in my family.
Speaker 23 (27:41):
She were such a young girl and you just you're
cleaning up your.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Mind too.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Wow.
Speaker 12 (27:49):
My dad is my hero.
Speaker 16 (27:50):
He always will be.
Speaker 17 (27:51):
I I love him, I know personally, the struggle of addiction.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Sharon talking about depression.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Cancer twice, if an engine depressed, I think you said
fairly seriously depressed, what have you learned by surviving those
and coming out here there end again?
Speaker 13 (28:13):
Depression isn't something for me. And the sort of depression
I have.
Speaker 16 (28:19):
That goes away.
Speaker 13 (28:20):
You deal with it and you learn how to live
with it and how to manage it. And it's something
that a lot of people don't understand, depression. They don't
understand that it is an illness. It's an illness and
it has to be treated daily. You can't just say, well,
I have depression, haha, this.
Speaker 16 (28:40):
Is it, you know. You can't. If you want a.
Speaker 13 (28:42):
Function and you need to work on it, you need
to be educated to the condition that you have, and
you have to be medicated. And if you're not medicated,
you're just going to destroy yourself.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
And about the two cancers, Yeah, what did you learn
going through those.
Speaker 13 (29:02):
It puts everything for me, everything in the right order.
Speaker 16 (29:08):
Everything.
Speaker 13 (29:09):
It made me realize that what I do for a living,
the world that I live in.
Speaker 16 (29:14):
Is so tiny.
Speaker 13 (29:15):
It's so small, it's so insignificant. It's nothing. It's fun,
it's a blessing, it's a gift. But there are people
out there that make such a difference in the world.
The doctors, the nurses, and that's what really is big
time that much.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
I really like when she's transparent and warrantable. I want
to see, like to find her Barbara Walters, and because
I think that was actually one of the pretty good ones.
Speaker 13 (29:42):
And people who I didn't even know were writing me
and wishing me well. And then you realize, my goodness,
there are so many good people in this world, so
many people that care, that take a minute to write
you a letter to say I don't know you, but
I wish you well, and it it opens your eyes
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to a whole at the side of the world that
you wouldn't necessarily be a part of.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
I can't go through well, I put it the way.
I don't want to go through the whole list of
health problems that the family has, but just give me
and give the audience an overview health problems yourself asie
with children.
Speaker 16 (30:23):
There's quite a bit to go through.
Speaker 13 (30:25):
It's what my son has.
Speaker 16 (30:28):
My son has a heart condition.
Speaker 13 (30:32):
I've had cancer twice and I suffer terribly with depression.
Speaker 8 (30:36):
Okay, And he came into my father's office for management
with Black Sabbath.
Speaker 13 (30:46):
So I was eighteen when I first met him. Love
it personally, No, no, not at all. I was like,
oh Lord, look at them.
Speaker 16 (30:55):
And they were all odd and.
Speaker 13 (30:56):
Hairy, and because I've been used to dealing with artists
that were American and they were slick, and they were
really put together and they smelt nice, and you know,
suddenly these guys come in and they're hairy, and they're
very you know, from the North of England, and they
don't look or dressed like anything I've ever seen, and
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so I was very nervous of them.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
Well, given that first impression, how in the world anything
ever developed.
Speaker 13 (31:24):
I went to see their show that night with my father.
They performed at this club in London, and I was
so in awe of what I was seeing. Again, I
hadn't seen anything like that, because all the artists that
we had dealt with were very slick and a different
category of music, different genre of music, just totally different.
Speaker 16 (31:44):
And then when I saw and how.
Speaker 13 (31:46):
Electric it was and how different, I was like blown away.
Speaker 16 (31:51):
I was like whoa.
Speaker 13 (31:53):
So that's when I became interested in Black Sabbath.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
And they had darker times too. This is from sixty minutes.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Well, you are a living legend. It's official, isn't it. Yeah.
Speaker 24 (32:07):
Here in the bells of his Californian mansion, Ozzie Osborne
is showing off his new sound studio Ozzie.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
To a whole new generation.
Speaker 24 (32:20):
Why the hell would you let cameras into your house
to film the Osborne It was.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
An experiment that went over the time. I mean, people
would come to our house and.
Speaker 16 (32:28):
Go, is he always like this? And we'd go why Why?
Speaker 5 (32:34):
To us, it was normal.
Speaker 16 (32:35):
So people would go, this is incredible.
Speaker 14 (32:37):
I love you all.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
I love you more than low.
Speaker 13 (32:40):
So the kids were there was teenage years where they
were interesting.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
You know.
Speaker 13 (32:48):
We had Jack would strum up and down the house
in commando gear and a paintball gun, and Kelly was,
you know, out at clubs all night. And it was
just that time. It was magic the family and it
was entertaining to watch.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
At the height of your addiction. How bad did it get?
Speaker 4 (33:08):
I mean, how about you?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
I mean that I was arrested for attempted murder.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
I had no idea.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
I didn't know what I was talking about.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Can I just stop it? Attempted murder?
Speaker 16 (33:20):
Right?
Speaker 10 (33:20):
I didn't know remember.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Any of it. I can remember going to a restaurant
and that's about it.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
Sharan, you remember it obviously.
Speaker 16 (33:29):
We came home from the restaurant.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
That morning for whatever is coming downstairs.
Speaker 16 (33:36):
He's got his underpants on.
Speaker 13 (33:38):
I thought he was ready for bed, and suddenly he
just said we've made a decision. And I'm like, weave yes,
and you've got to die. And I'm like, okay, all.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Right, And so what did he do?
Speaker 13 (33:50):
Then he lunged on me and you know, got me
down to the floor and started strangling me.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
How close did it get?
Speaker 16 (33:58):
Pretty damn close?
Speaker 10 (34:00):
Is insane?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That was like someone who put in a red poker
to the middle of my spine. You know, it's like,
you know, it was my worst and still that didn't
stop me drinking.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Know why didn't that stop be drinking?
Speaker 9 (34:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 24 (34:13):
You've lived through an attempted murder you've lived through affairs,
you've lived through domestic violence at other times, chronic alcoholism.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
Why did you stay?
Speaker 10 (34:24):
Because you know, why did you stay?
Speaker 13 (34:26):
The time people would look at Ossie and they'd look
at me, and they'd think, oh, she's so straight, so
like house wifey. You know what's the connection here with
the way I'd been brought up?
Speaker 16 (34:38):
Ossie was quite normally. I didn't think he was.
Speaker 8 (34:41):
And that's such an unfortunate thing. If you're brought up
with violence and you see something like this, or you
go through something like this, it's, well, all the people
that loved me while I was growing up did things
like this, So it gets really hard to discern that
that's not a part of what love should be. Nobody
should be choking you and trying to kill you. But
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if those are the examples you saw, it gets so
hard to distinguish. It's so hard to distinguish because it's
what you're used to, and you think, well, my parents
loved me, my grandparents loved my parents, and the cycle
of abuse just kind of continues in that way because
it's so much harder to distinguish that that's just not
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this normal part of love. That's just not this normal
thing that everyone does. Everyone isn't just enraged and beating
on their children.
Speaker 16 (35:34):
Extreme in any way. And I love him.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Has the domestic balance stopped? Oh absolutely now?
Speaker 16 (35:39):
I beat thee down him.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
So much worse than biting a head off a bat,
in my opinion. And it kind of makes you realize
why Amy, the daughter who was older, maybe didn't want
to be on the show. And here she is talking
to Barbara Walters.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
I say, everyone wonders about it. For the first time,
Daughter Amy speaks.
Speaker 25 (36:02):
Out when continues, what do your most want people to
know about you?
Speaker 19 (36:13):
That I'm not some weirdo, depressed daughter that's afraid of.
Speaker 21 (36:17):
The world that locks herself in her room all day.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
Next there may be no secrets in the Osborne family,
but there is a mystery, and her name is Amy,
the daughter who moved out of the house rather than
take part in the Osborne Show. But tonight Amy returns
home to talk for the first time publicly about her
feelings and her family. More than you saw on TV.
Speaker 10 (36:41):
The worst stuff.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Amy, You've never done an interview before, and I know
you want to keep your privacy. On the other hand,
what do you most want people to know?
Speaker 19 (36:48):
About you, that I'm not some weirdo, depressed daughter that's
afraid of the world that locks herself in her room
all day. You know, I just didn't choose to do
the show. That's the only thing that I think that
that's different about me and my family.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Why would you not want to participate with the rest
of the family.
Speaker 19 (37:08):
It's kind of like, Okay, I want to be a singer,
and people.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
Would talk about it so strangely though, they'd be like,
he there's another daughter. It was kind of like it
was this secret thing, like I don't even know if
they addressed it on the show. I don't I don't remember.
I've been rewatching episodes and it has not come up.
Speaker 19 (37:29):
And I felt if I would have stayed with the
Osborne and done the whole Osbonne thing, I felt as
maybe I would have been typecasted right away before I
had a chance to experience other things.
Speaker 7 (37:37):
Was my man, when you decided not to participate.
Speaker 19 (37:41):
She was hurt and we definitely had our rough times
for a couple of months without disagreements, But it really
was nothing to do with me not loving them and
not you know, wanting the world to that I am
a part of this family.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
Do you have any regrets?
Speaker 19 (37:56):
No, I really don't because I'm all reserved and my
private life to me is very important.
Speaker 16 (38:01):
So it didn't feel right.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
And that is a priceless thing to be able to
keep your private life, to be able to go to
the store and buy milk or drive your car without
being followed by paparazzi. So even though she didn't get
that kind of recognition, there's definitely two sides to that.
Even though maybe she didn't get to do the music
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career that she wanted or all the things that she wanted,
how many of us have being able to retain your
private life and that private side. I mean, that's definitely
still worth something. And I want to play a little
bit of the Barbara Walters Sharon Osbourne interview.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Supposedly who had a meeting with record executives and Ozzie
bit off the head of a dove. Did you say
to him, we'll go.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
In and go bite off ahead of a dove.
Speaker 13 (38:52):
No, he was meant to take them out of his
pockets as a show of peace because the record company
really didn't want Ozzie, and we knew it.
Speaker 10 (39:01):
There was a dove had a bag.
Speaker 16 (39:04):
Man just made Ozzie do that, and didn't you think
he was nuts?
Speaker 7 (39:09):
No, that was just fine.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
Yeah, Marshall Walters is more respectable in his interview, like
a lot.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
Of pale compared to what happened later in an act
that forever sealed Ozzie's wild image and still stands as
one of the rock's most bizarre moments. Did you tell
Ozzie to bite the head off the bat on stage?
Speaker 8 (39:32):
No?
Speaker 13 (39:33):
After the Duve incident, kids thought that it was cool
to bring in all these animals for Ozzie, so they
would bring in chickens.
Speaker 16 (39:40):
I mean, we've had.
Speaker 13 (39:41):
Great big frogs on stage, this big everything.
Speaker 16 (39:44):
They would throw up at him, and he thought.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
It was a toy bat, so he bit the head
off the bat.
Speaker 16 (39:51):
That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 13 (39:52):
And I'm like, you're not kissing me, You're going for rape.
I was like, there is no way, so he had.
Speaker 16 (39:59):
To so for a course of raby shots.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Like many drugstores, Azzi had a reputation for very heavy
drinking and drugs. M Hm, did you drink and do drugs?
Speaker 5 (40:10):
Didn't you?
Speaker 13 (40:11):
When I first started to go out with Ozzie seventeen
nine eighty, I would drink to keep up with Ozzie.
My body just can't handle it. So I was a
terrible drunk, and we used to end up having the
worst fights. And it got to the point where it
was so bad that I had to say, I just
have to stop, because we're going to end up in
(40:32):
the gut of you.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Stop the drinking.
Speaker 16 (40:34):
Yeah, and the drugs. M h.
Speaker 5 (40:36):
Ozzie couldn't couldn't.
Speaker 13 (40:37):
No try oh as he's been trying for so long FI,
but he's just got this demon inside of him. He
just can't get rid of these little people that live
in his head.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Where do they say? These people?
Speaker 16 (40:52):
He tells me?
Speaker 13 (40:53):
They say, you know, he's no good, He's a failure,
he's useless, He's this, he's that. Have a drink, have this,
have a that, And he just every day he wakes
up and he tries to fight, and some days he wins,
and some days he doesn't.
Speaker 8 (41:06):
He's so tied about me, Like everything seen returns.
Speaker 7 (41:15):
Is that one much publicized tom when Ozzie tried.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
To Tari Did everyone know about this?
Speaker 8 (41:21):
Everyone know about this means I feel like everyone knew
about this except me.
Speaker 7 (41:29):
This mysterious member of the Osborne family is the one
whom few people have seen because she chose not to
be a part of the MTV show.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
So I think the domestic violence thing was something that
literally everyone knew but me, But I'm like very disturbed,
disturbed by it. It must have been like heavily publicized
at the time, but when the Osbourne's was on, I
don't remember.
Speaker 9 (41:49):
Anyone talking about that.
Speaker 8 (41:51):
And it's hard to like put that in part of
the legacy because I just always saw him as such
a good TV dad. Here's Jack Osborne on Entertainment Tonight.
Speaker 26 (42:05):
One week after this emotional family moment and Ozzie Osborne's
memorial son, Jack admits his heart is still full of
so much sadness and sorrow.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
I don't think anything happens without a reason.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
The universe was like, you know, you know, doesn't give
us anything we can't handle.
Speaker 16 (42:29):
In his first public statement since his dad's death.
Speaker 26 (42:31):
The thirty nine year old also shared this touching look
back at their time together, and Jack even counted fourteen thousand,
five hundred and one day's a journey he calls a blessing.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
How cool is it having Assie as a dad? Very cool?
Speaker 26 (42:44):
And everyone gets to experience that the tribute includes never
before seen moments of the late rock legend cuddling and
laughing with Jack's four young daughters.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
Or I'm to spend some of the time with them.
Speaker 26 (42:58):
Plus outtakes from Jack and Ozzie's TV adventures.
Speaker 16 (43:10):
Remember.
Speaker 26 (43:10):
More than a decade after the Osbourne's, the father son
duo starred in the travel show Ozzie and Jack's World
Detour Each He sat down with the family in twenty
twenty two years after they wrapped the third and final season.
Speaker 14 (43:22):
I feel so lucky that we got to have three
years where we just traveled and did like the dumbest things,
And like, you look back on that now and you're like, oh,
what I would give right now to being an ave
do it something stupid, you know, But my dad.
Speaker 12 (43:36):
He's going in Look at that, Dad, why'd you love
to do that in prison?
Speaker 4 (43:41):
Even though people see him as Ozzie, he's your dad.
Speaker 5 (43:44):
What does he mean?
Speaker 14 (43:45):
At the stage that I'm in now, it's like as
a father, you know, your parent kind of becomes more
of your kind of roadmap.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Well will often reflect.
Speaker 14 (43:54):
On lessons my dad told me through life and see
how I can implement that, you know, into my own house.
Speaker 26 (44:04):
And while he eventually stopped touring to spend more time
with family, Ozzie certainly never slowed down.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
I'll live three lives in trying in the last forty years,
you know, in my live.
Speaker 26 (44:15):
Seventeen days before his death in July, he was on
stage performing for forty five thousand fans at his farewell show.
Jack and his girls, decked out in black Sabbath merch
were quote mesmerized, the final.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
Life ended on the stage, so be it.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
That's a bunch.
Speaker 4 (44:32):
That's the place that I'll be long.
Speaker 26 (44:36):
Jack reminding fans that his dad lived his life fully
with this quote from late journalist Hunter S. Thompson, life
should not be a journey to the grave with the
intention of arriving safely, but rather a skid in bronze
side and a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally
worn out, and loudly proclaiming, Wow, what a ride.
Speaker 8 (44:57):
I don't know how I feel about that quote, but
it seems like this the family is really struggling with
the death right now. There was supposed to be a
BBC documentary released and it got pulled at the last minute.
There's a lot of interviews articles right now about how
much Sharon is struggling, and I don't really want to
(45:17):
touch on that. It just feels like a little too dark,
and there's already been some pretty dark stuff in this
So why don't we end with some clips from the
Osborns from a time where it seemed like everything was
fine even though it wasn't, which was a perfect reflection
of the world at that time. And I think one
of the reasons that it's such a popular show to
(45:39):
rewatch now. I know a lot of people were really
shocked at Ozzie's passing and had a hard time with
his death. I was really surprised and I got sad too,
So I get that people are people are complicated. They're
not just one moment.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
No nobody wants are So do you want a resourcer?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
No, I'd actually don't want to read out stay earlier.
Speaker 16 (46:01):
I'm read you're start eating a burritos three times day.
Speaker 6 (46:04):
I am garizo.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Man, it's not illegal.
Speaker 16 (46:17):
It's not illegal.
Speaker 5 (46:18):
You're not small.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
Pocket knife blades.
Speaker 8 (46:20):
Are bigger than that.
Speaker 5 (46:20):
You can't go out. I'm stilly.
Speaker 16 (46:23):
It's a one inch blade. You can't you know.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
I'm taking no dad. If you get busted.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
I'll fucking bust your eyes. Okay, don't go out with
a fucking shirt.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
With cocaine and your fucking T shirt and the FU
give me the fucking night.
Speaker 16 (46:47):
I hate Jack.
Speaker 5 (46:48):
What do you say?
Speaker 16 (46:50):
I hate Jack?
Speaker 5 (46:52):
Oh, don't be stupid.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
When enough Ghanistan two thousand degrees.
Speaker 5 (46:59):
The fucking stuck on the WA channel, fucking sa.
Speaker 10 (47:08):
I already played baseline.
Speaker 18 (47:11):
I could see like something in the back house and
then I opened the door and it was pitched back,
and then something jumped on me and took me to
the floor, and it was one of my brother's friends.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
Let s don't get my ass.
Speaker 16 (47:26):
Don't get my ass.
Speaker 18 (47:27):
And then I could hear all like this morning in
front of like what the fuck is that?
Speaker 16 (47:30):
And I'm like, no, this is wrong.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
And I turned on the light.
Speaker 18 (47:36):
And it was like this twenty seven year old girl
and my brother said the biggest smile on his face,
and I was just like, oh, God, get me out
of here now.
Speaker 25 (47:47):
If I beat out, you get.
Speaker 13 (47:54):
The night of golling.
Speaker 11 (47:56):
Okay, guys, Ozzie, I know it's working because I'm even
feeling it.
Speaker 16 (48:09):
No, why don't you take your rest? I think we'll
feel better.
Speaker 8 (48:32):
Ozzie's cause of death was a heart attack, and he
was battling with Parkinson's disease for a long time, I
believe since two thousand and three, So while this show
was still on, which is just crazy, but we have
George W. Bush calling himy Osbourne. Do you ever miss
that war criminal? I do sometimes, which is like something
(48:53):
I never thought I'd say in a million years. He
got a really good edit, George W. Bush, the Painter.
But this was just such a period of pop culture.
It gave us so many things that we wouldn't have
had without it. The Newlyweds, all the family reality shows
that came afterward, like pretty much all the stuff we
watch on TV that's not a competition show, vander Pump Rules.
Speaker 10 (49:18):
I mean, like a lot of that. We have to
give credit to.
Speaker 8 (49:22):
The Osbournes, Brittany and Kevin, Chaotic, like all that early
reality TV, the Being Bobby Brown, all.
Speaker 10 (49:31):
Of that kind of stuff.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
I think that all came from the success of the Osbourne's,
and it seemed like they would have struggled either way,
that there were a lot of personal demons, but having
it all on camera, hopefully It's like there's also a
lot of laughing. There's a lot of joy, and hopefully
that's something they get to have forever instead of just
(49:54):
these traumatizing moments too. Hopefully they're all able to heal
from his death. But do you ever really heal from
losing a parent or a partner?
Speaker 9 (50:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (50:07):
I don't know that yet.
Speaker 8 (50:09):
I will try and remember Ozzie fondly, even though it's
harder after learning a lot of that information. But we're
not just the worst things we ever did. And addiction
is a hell of a disease, it really, it really is.
Speaker 9 (50:25):
But still hard to know, you know.
Speaker 8 (50:29):
Just this is one of the things that happens when
I research in real time with you, because I kind
of like having the reactions.
Speaker 10 (50:36):
But this is why it's.
Speaker 8 (50:37):
Better when I like read biographies and things beforehand. And
I did watch a lot of interviews and episodes of
the Osbornes, but it didn't lay out like the worst parts.
I knew about Kelly's addiction, I knew about Ozzie's addiction.
I knew about Sharon's drinking and her cancer and her
depression and all of that from the show, But like
(50:57):
the whole domestic of violence aspect still kind of jarring
to me, But you know, this show still has its
place in the zeitgeist in our memories. It's very rewatchable,
it was very original while still being its own, its
own relatable thing. Like the the Whole Stars, they're just
(51:20):
like us thing. They have the same family fights and
disputes and acts of love and trying to do better
than your parents did before. I think that's something everyone
who's dealt with abuse kind of deals with like a whole.
It ends with us without Blake Lively situation of like,
eventually the pattern has to stop somewhere, And with things
(51:43):
like addiction, it's it's really hard.
Speaker 10 (51:46):
It's really hard.
Speaker 8 (51:47):
Same with abuse, it's really it's really hard. Things become
normal to us that should never be normal. But at
the same time, you have this incredibly watchable show where
Ozzie was hilarious and just really did seem like such
a great dad, and the way his kids have spoken
about him, how he went on toured, made an album
(52:09):
with Kelly, then him and Jack had a show and
did all of these things together, and the Osbourne's rewatch
and all of that stuff. So it's very, very multifaceted,
more than just biting the heads off of animals and
being incomprehensible all of the time. Definitely a complicated, complicated thing,
(52:33):
But I think the reruns will will resonate for a
really long time. There's just sincere moments of joy in there,
and you know, joy is always going to be a
super powerful, powerful thing. I think it the light outweighs
the darkness for the Prince of Darkness. But let me
(52:57):
know your thoughts, let me know what you think. I
know this had a lot of interviews and clips, but
when someone recently dies, I feel like it's really important
to hear from them and hear from their family and
hear these first hand accounts instead of just talking about them.
So I hope that was okay with you. I'm a
little rusty on our way back. Tomorrow I will have
(53:20):
an episode out with Kristen from Creative Sobriety where we
talk about turning forty getting sober in our thirties. So
we kind of have an addiction theme going going on
this week. Later in the later in episode, later in
the week of an episode coming out with the author
(53:40):
Luke Goebel, where we talk about Luigi Mangioni and also
his book Luke's book Killed Dick, which talks a lot
about addiction and rehab and the opioid epidemic and the
drug industry, and so we do have a bit of
an addiction behind the scenes the happening happening this week,
(54:02):
which was unintentional, but I guess it's something that's always
kind of on my mind. You know.
Speaker 10 (54:09):
Addiction is like that.
Speaker 8 (54:11):
It's it's so layered, it's so complicated. It lingers, It
really freaking lingers, even after you're sober. It's not just
the things you did, it's the things other people did
and how they felt and how all of that lasts
and goes on. And then also all the people we
lost because of addiction they kind of linger too. So
(54:36):
a lot to talk about, a lot to get into
for season four. Send me episodes for some lighter ideas,
some lighter stuff, because I need that, because my mind
always goes to these places of let's talk about the
darkest thing we possibly can. Like I'm doing an episode
about the Biggest Loser, an episode about people having AI
boyfriends because I came across this Reddit community called my
(54:58):
boyfriend is Ai and I just read their posts for
like hours and to me, it's like the darkest parts
of the human condition and the loneliness epidemic and all
of that, and I'd like to cover some some lighter
things too. Even when I started doing a Love Island episode,
I don't watch Love Island, but I was trying to
because people kept recrossing episodes on it, and then all
(55:21):
I came across was the Love Island suicides and how
many people have taken their own lives who've been on
that show. So there is this darkness that always comes
with reality TV.
Speaker 10 (55:32):
There is this.
Speaker 9 (55:33):
Just underlying darkness.
Speaker 8 (55:36):
Have a botox episode coming out with my esthetic doctor,
Doctor Wiggins. Is botox ruining the world or does it
have benefits? So that's a little that's a little bit
lighter and kind of funny, but also talking about like
plastic surgery, addiction and all of that and needs to
be perfect. So send me ideas for lighter things things.
(56:01):
Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
Broad's Next Door. I can't believe we made it to
season four. Did this show really start in.
Speaker 16 (56:10):
Twenty twenty two?
Speaker 5 (56:11):
That can't be right.
Speaker 8 (56:11):
It had to be twenty twenty three, right, right? Was
it twenty twenty four. No, No, it wasn't twenty twenty four,
But was it twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three?
And how can I not remember that it was? It
was October of twenty twenty two, So that's crazy. That's
just nuts to me that it's going to come out. Yeah,
that's such a such a long time, but I'm loving
(56:36):
it still.
Speaker 10 (56:36):
I'm really feeling it still.
Speaker 8 (56:38):
It's been you know, it's been interesting after having a
co host and having them quit, and then not even
knowing if I was going to be able to go
on with the show, and then being able to go
on with the help of all of you and with
the help of guests. It's just been a really incredible experience.
Not to be cheesy, but it's changed my life in
(56:58):
a lot of amazing ways.
Speaker 16 (57:01):
And I appreciate you.
Speaker 8 (57:03):
Write to me, message me, email me, let me know
your thoughts, let me.
Speaker 10 (57:07):
Know what else you want to hear, let.
Speaker 8 (57:09):
Me know if you want to be a guest, let
me know, let me know everything you know. You can
find me online at Daniella Screama on Everything, at Broad's
next Door on Everything.
Speaker 5 (57:22):
I read all of my dms.
Speaker 8 (57:24):
It takes me a while, but I get through all
of them. I'm better at reading stuff on my personal
account because I use it more than the Broad's account.
But I'm going to try and start using the Broad's
account more. Again, it just gets really hard to maintain
both of them, so I end up favoring one or
the other. But and if I don't see your message
(57:45):
on there, you can always send me an email. I
have at broadsnext Door, Gmail, broadsnextore dot com, daniellscreama dot com,
so you can find me all over the place. Really,
I'm constant online. My screen time is like thirteen hours
a day.
Speaker 16 (58:03):
It's disgusting. It's disgusting.
Speaker 8 (58:07):
If I'm gonna drink some coffee, I'm gonna edit my
episode with Kristen, which is almost done, just got to
add some music to it. And you know this, five
episodes a week schedule is pretty brutal. I might have
to scale back to like Tuesdays through Fridays or Mondays
through Thursdays, because doing five a week is a lot
(58:29):
for me. Since I record everything myself, I edit everything myself,
I also have to I would start outsourcing more. I've
got an office i'm moving into, which is the.
Speaker 10 (58:38):
Room next door.
Speaker 5 (58:39):
So I'm gonna be doing a.
Speaker 8 (58:40):
Lot more video episodes and just.
Speaker 5 (58:44):
Having like a.
Speaker 10 (58:46):
Space for broads.
Speaker 8 (58:47):
I'm gonna get like a little sign and everything, and
I think that will help too, because I record in
my room, and it just it gets to be a lot,
it gets it gets to be a lot. But I
still would rather be doing this than anything else. I
mean that very much. I love you very much. Thank
you so so much for listening. I will talk to
(59:10):
you very soon. Goodbye.
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