October 12, 2025 • 49 mins
Grab your clairvoyance and your credit card because today we're getting a broader understanding of celebrity psychics & scammers.
From Mary Todd Lincoln’s séances in the White House, tv infomercials for psychic hotlines, CIA psychic spy programs and modern day reality tv mediums- we are taking a look at the business of reading minds, flipping cards and seeing the future.
Is anyone the real deal or was it all just a scam?
And why has no one won that $1,000,000 psychic challenge?
(originally released in December, 2023)
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From Mary Todd Lincoln’s séances in the White House, tv infomercials for psychic hotlines, CIA psychic spy programs and modern day reality tv mediums- we are taking a look at the business of reading minds, flipping cards and seeing the future.
Is anyone the real deal or was it all just a scam?
And why has no one won that $1,000,000 psychic challenge?
(originally released in December, 2023)
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/broads-next-door--5803223/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Gargoyles side scary days on goodly gog Savage.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Being a medium on Long Island is that a lot
of people have shared experiences with their loved ones.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Okay, uh, who had the grandfather who choked on.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
A meatful palm? Everybody?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Okay, his it was sal or for Salvator.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
If you want him to believe that it's over, then
you gotta stop accepting the booty calls at two am
in the morning.
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Hello, neighbors, lovers, friends, mystics and mind readers. I'm Danielliscreama
and you're listening to Broad's next Door. Grab your clairvoyance
and your credit card because today we're talking all things
celebrity psychics. I have always thought I was a little
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bit psychic, but I really didn't see most of this coming,
any of this, And the last month I've really really struggled.
It's been hard for me to function, and I've been
recording different versions of this intro for over a month
because I don't know what to say at the same time,
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in these times of mourning and loss and death where
people are just like, is this honestly the world? Seriously?
Is this?
Speaker 7 (01:24):
Is this?
Speaker 6 (01:25):
Is this the world?
Speaker 8 (01:26):
Is this?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
What we've decided on. Okay, it seems that people have
always sought advice from some form of psychic. The first
time I personally saw psychic was at my Catholic school's
second grade Halloween fair. They called her a fortune teller,
but I knew what was up. I already watched. I
watched a lot of cable, so I was prepared for that.
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But she did tell me that there would be a
date that was really significant for me, and it was
going to be May second, which ended up being my
first communion, which I'm sure she had in front of her,
But I was like, wow, where does she get her?
It was like, we should be doing more of this.
This is way cooler than the nuns or the priests.
They've predicted nothing. What I did not realize in nineteen
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ninety two that I now realize is that she was
doing both a cold and hot reading, which are the
main two ways you do a psychic reading. So a
hot reading would be she had information in front of her,
She had the dates for the students of when significant
events would be happening, and the rest of it. A
cold reading, she just tears this seven year old dressed
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as a witch with a lot of black eyeshadow on,
and I think she kind of just went from there.
And those are the same techniques that I've basically had
in every psychic reading sense. But that was my last
few months in Catholic school. After that, we briefly moved
to Italy, where I saw no psychics, but everyone seemed
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to interpret dreams, this prophecy, which is a pretty big
thing in my family. And then we moved to Florida,
where there are no dreams at all, just kidding, just kidding.
And in Florida, though, things became absolutely unhinged. In kind
of the best way. My dad opened up a new
kung fu school, and instead of ever having babysitters, I
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got dumped with various taichi students. Suddenly I was surrounded
by adults who were like, no, you can't commit a sin.
What are you worried about? You're eight years old. You
can open up your third eye instead. So it was
a really really big shift. They were like, kids are
the most psychic of all. You have all these magic
abilities just for being a child, because the veil is
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thin for you. So a lot of this did a
lot of this did scare me, I will tell you
when some of this stuff, but we would do things
like we'd line up against the wall and they'd show
me how to see someone's aura. So from early on,
I became a believer that we all had some kind
of power and energy within ourselves, some magic. Even with this,
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though with this self proclaimed power that I was given,
that was in me, that was in everyone, I still
wanted the fortune teller, and in my adult life I've
seen many psychics as well. One of the reasons I
actually wanted to do this episode is because last year
I started doing something called the Gateway Process, which is
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this thing the actual CIA developed to do remote viewing
and being able to astral project and stuff. But it
got so weird. I'll talk about the program a little
bit in this episode, but I don't even think I
can talk about my experiences without sounding so weird. I
thought it was just going to be like really intense meditation,
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but it's definitely CIA mind control, and I've hypnotized myself
and I don't know what else is going to happen,
And reading just thousands of pages of CIA documents on
their studies of esp and telekinesis like the Men whysteric
Goats stuff and after everything I've read, I absolutely do
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believe that people have psychic abilities. I believe that we
all have intuition to two varying degrees. Then I was thinking,
if I am such a believer, why am I so
skeptical of certain psychics Because for me, so much of
it would be about intention. Imagine you have this amazing
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gift where on the on demand you can just commune
with the dead, but when they commune to you, all
that comes across is like, oh, I'm getting I'm getting
getting a j name. And why do celebrity psychics so
often focus only on communicating with the dead and love
spell stuff? Probably because that's what people want the most.
But let's explore the history of modern day psychics and
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how we got to where we are, and then we'll
talk about some famous psychics. We're also going to be
talking about James Randy, who had the one million dollar
challenge for anyone who could prove their psychic abilities, and
so far, no one's won that million dollars, and that
is surprising to me. I'm not alone with my pursuit
in search of answers and wanting to see if consciousness
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will leave my body. I mean even what we know
of human history, from the oracles in ancient Greece to
the hieroglyphics in Egypt. In China, they would use bones
as for divination reading. I mean, there's so many different
examples for every culture. But we're going to skip ahead
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to after the Civil War, when spiritualism really really creeps
across the United States and kind of changes the playing
field of how we see modern day psychics. The appeal
of spiritualism was so big after the Civil War because
people had experienced such loss, sciences became a huge, huge
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group event and thing to do. Harry Todd Lincoln even
had like five of them in the White House. And
then at the front of this spiritualist movement where the
Fox Sisters, they would totally have their own reality TV
show now Margaret and Kate, so their seances become absolutely
legendary and they totally start a nationwide fascination with the
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after life. This is like the simple life of the
after life. And they're definitely not alone in this. There's
so many different branches of spiritualism too, But for what
we know now of this psychic reading, smoke and mirrors
kind of gig, this is their style there are things
that are actually more spiritual that are happening. But as
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much as you always have believers, you always have the skeptics.
And one of my greatest examples of a skeptic is
a lot of them are our magicians. And Harry Houdini
was a huge skeptic. He was known often as the
handcuff King, and he was a fierce critic of spiritualism.
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He was literally on a mission at one point to
unmask these charlatans, declaring spiritualism is the greatest fraud in
the world. And he was really good at unmasking a
lot of their illusions.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Oh, poor child, this is the magic trick. Huh collusion, Michael.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Once Hollywood enters the picture, psychics are are there. This
is just so them. And back in the day, stars
like Mary Pickford and Charlie Chaplin, the Hollywood silent film icons,
all consulted psychics for career advice and their love life guidance.
May West was also super into psychics and astrology. She said,
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I'm a great believer in the stars, darlings. In the
nineteen thirties, there's this guy Edgar Casey who is known
as the Sleeping Prophet because all of his stuff comes
to him when he's in like a translate state, which
is common with like profits and years. Even in modern
day and the age of secret the secret, you have
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people like Seth Jane Roberts with channels Seth and then
even more recently she still does this, Esther Hicks channels
Abraham and they just say they're basically accessing all the
information there ever was. Some people call it the Akashic records.
Some people think it's all knowledge. But Edgar Casey had
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access to this and he did make some World War
II predictions. It's so hard with these with this is
someone where there's so much online about the predictions that
they make. Now like a nostrodamis almost that it's so
hard to say what was from what he actually said
and what is people just really being out there. Things
do kind of slow down during World War Two, like
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the United States, like our favorite thing to do here
is build weapons, So when other countries started working on
like their psychic arsenals, we were just like, no, we're
gonna what about a nuclear bomb? And even afterward, I
don't see anything like after the Civil War where people
are like spiritualism instead, it's like everyone's like capitalism, don't
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do a spell? What about a refrigerator? We have so
much metal now. But this really does change. In the
nineteen sixties, so much of this spiritual movement and the
cultural Revolution expanding consciousness, so the fascination with psychics and
astrology reaches new heights. At this time. John Lennon and
Yoko oh No love mysticism. They saw spiritual guidance, had
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their own yogi and Guru did transcendental meditation. If I
was married Todd Lincoln or Yogo oh No, I would
be really pissed. I'd be like, hey, psychic, So I
feel like you forgot to mention this one thing. In
the seventies, the I think the psychic stuff becomes even
more mainstream. I mean, you have Shirley McLain super into
(10:58):
the New Age, step Stevie Nicks, who is pretty open
about her mystical magical dreams. A really famous psychic during
this time was this guy INGOs Swan. And Ingo Swan
also got really wrapped up into remote viewing, and this
is with the Stargate project in the nineteen seventies. All
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these documents were disclosed in two thousand and three. Some afterward.
I've read thousands of pages on this because this is
all CIA stuff that they're doing and testing. They the
United States was really really slow to remote viewing. The
Soviet Union was already really good at it, everywhere else
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was better at it, and then the United States in
nineteen seventy they get this tape of this woman Helga
in the Soviet Union who can make a frog die
with her brain, and they're like, shit, we really really
really got to catch up. We really got to catch
up with our psychic stuff. They've been really focused on
the whole mk ultra thing and like creating a super
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soldier by giving them massive amounts of psychedelics and brainwashing them.
So during the Cold War, the CIA was really really
diving deep into the supernatural, and this CIA Gateway Project,
which was kind of part of the start Star gate project,
all of it was aimed to harness psychic abilities with
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the goal of espionage. They explored remote viewing, which is
a form of psychic perception that sought to uncover secrets
from a distance. So up until INGOs Swan, this had
been very much like here's information in an envelope, can
you see what it is? Then Ingo Swan came along
and he was like, this is boring. I want to
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just make up coordinates and I can show you any
place in the world. But even though the CIA was like, yes,
this is so true and we're so going to catch
up to the Soviet Unions, even though we barely believe
that this is real, in the United States, it seems
there's a really hard They have a really hard time
separating mysticism from religion and even believing that any of
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these things could exist without being religious. It's the biggest
thing they hit in the States with any of these
programs is that people are so skeptical. And in the
Soviet Union in China they were not expecting people to
be doing these things because they saw it as organized religion.
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And whereas in the Soviet Union they were like, no,
this is this is mysticism, bros. We've been doing this.
We've been doing this for a while. And then in
China they've been meditating since forever. So if you're gonna like,
I'll talk about this more, and I'll talk about this
more in the Patreon because it gets too to it
just gets so weird. You also had your geller at
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this time, who was like I can bend a spoon
with my mind. And all of this was well and
fine with the United States government. But James rand a
former magician, had had enough bending spoons and remote viewing.
Like he had to draw a line, and he says, Ingo,
Swan and all these other people are frauds. They're all
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just a bunch of tricksters. And he has a TV
show where people can go on and prove it.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
Welcome back to psychic power fact or fraud.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I'm David Asman.
Speaker 9 (14:22):
You want to win a million bucks, Well prove your
psychic ability to James Randy, and the money's yours. Winner
of the MacArthur Genius Award. A world famous magician and
escape artist, Randy's dedicated his life to searching for psychic power.
Juliet Huddy as the story here.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I am doing something out of there.
Speaker 10 (14:38):
I forgotten what it is, but I look to be
in an iron maiden of some kind.
Speaker 11 (14:42):
He was a modern day Houdini.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I guess I got out because I'm here, the.
Speaker 11 (14:46):
Pint sized magician. No milkcan, no coffin.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
This is the episode over Niagara Falls.
Speaker 12 (14:52):
Not even a straight jacket could hold his high flying
death defying acts earned him the nickname the Amazing Randy.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I's on a Johnny Carson show and.
Speaker 11 (15:01):
Brought national fame.
Speaker 12 (15:03):
Of course, the Amazing Randy's a bit older now and
a lot less agile.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
It was fun, it was very challenging, and breaking out
of jails and struggling out of chains and things like that.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I'm a little over the hill for that sort of thing.
Speaker 12 (15:17):
Today, he's simply doctor James Randy, author, lecturer, and the
world's leading critic of all things psychic.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
I see people being run down by the scam artists
every day of my life. I try to take them
out of the way of harm, and I try to
get help for them if I possibly can.
Speaker 13 (15:36):
When people blend superstition with science and make people believe
that it really is true, that things are really true
that are not, this is where James Randy comes in
and he sees through all the fraud and all the fluff.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
He gets right down at.
Speaker 13 (15:55):
The meat and he discovers where there is any meet
there or there's just you know that isn't very tasty.
Speaker 12 (16:02):
From psychic superstars to local tarot card readers, if someone's
claiming supernatural ability, you.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Can bet this is another version of the solar system.
Speaker 12 (16:11):
Randy and his cohorts that the James Randy Educational Foundation
in Fort Lauderdale can explain it away.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I am looking for what is true.
Speaker 10 (16:20):
Bertrand Russell said it, and we've used it as our
catchphrase here. What is wanted is not the will to believe,
but the will to find out. Here at the Foundation,
we're determined to find out.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
So determined.
Speaker 12 (16:34):
In fact, the Foundation is offering a million dollars.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
To anyone could provide evidence of any paranormal, occult or
supernatural event or power of any kind under proper observing conditions.
It would think that they've been knocking that door down
right now, you're from to do what they do every
day and collect money for But I don't hear many knocks,
It's true.
Speaker 11 (16:57):
Instead, what he is hearing our complaint.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
I'm being sued all the time by psychics and bi parapsychologists,
but particularly mister Gelly.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
He's the champion.
Speaker 12 (17:06):
His bitter feud with self proclaimed clairvoyant, telepothist and psychokineticist
Uri Geller is now into its third decade. It started
with Randy Colling Geller nothing more than a talented trickster.
Speaker 10 (17:20):
All I can tell mister Geller is if he's doing
spoon bending by divine means, he's doing it a hard way.
Speaker 12 (17:28):
Why Why do rational people believe in something science and
investigators like Randy have proven untrue?
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Because I think they're looking for some magic in their lives.
They're looking for control of the world around them.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I want to read you part of an article that
I found in my research that's from New York Magazine.
This is called so are Psychics Real or What? By
Kate Heeney. Parapsychology, also called PSI, the study of mental
or psychic phenomenon which can't be explained by the laws
of science as we know them, used to pretty common
research among early formative psychologists. Freud studied it, William James,
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the founder of American Academy of Psychology, studied it. The
Harvard psychologist Hugo Munsterenberg studied it. While much of this
work focused on exposing fraudulent self proclaimed psychic mediums, those
psychologists who engage with the subject of PSI maintained a
genuine interest in the subject, for which similarly interested contemporary
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psychologists are routinely mocked. According to News research. Perhaps the
most famous modern day parapsychology friendly psychologist is Darryl Bem,
whose twenty eleven experiments inspired a crisis in his field.
Some of his peers thought his paper was a hoax.
Others took issues with his methods, which they admitted were
technically correct. But if Bem could prove something so it
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landished a psychic ability with acceptable social science methodology, they
said there had to be something wrong with accepted social
science methodology. So basically, in this experiment, what they did
they had subjects in a sound proof room and they're blindfolded,
and they're asked to describe a film clip that they
have not seen, which they're either shown after the fact,
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or which is played simultaneously but in another room. If
experimental judges can use these descriptions to choose the specified
clip from the other distractor clips, this is considered positive evidence.
Prepare Psychology Startingly. Meta analysis of Gansfield procedure said he
shows statistically significant support for this psychic effect. So even
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when these tests are done and the results are positive,
the problem is always repeatability. The same thing happened with
the Stargate project that was closed in nineteen ninety five
that they say it really was. It's still going. Repeatability
is really hard. It's something that happened when people would
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go head to head with James Randy. That's why nobody
has the million dollars. Sylvia Brown, she was another person
who said she would take James re Andy's test, and
it was up to a million dollars by then, and
she never did it. I'm still surprised more people don't.
I've already convinced myself. I'm like, I could get that
million dollars with remote viewing. But it is set up.
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It is set up harder set up scientifically. He does
other things to make sure you're not cheating, or he
did other things. The world didn't want more James Randy's
The world wanted more psychic friends.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
Substitutes, all right, I share the substitute. I saw substitute.
They're fine, But when it comes to the kind of
personal guidance that could actually change your life, you want
the real deal. And that's especially true when it comes
to psychic guidance.
Speaker 14 (20:40):
When someone told me to call one of those imitations psychic.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Clubs, Gary Simlen, when.
Speaker 11 (20:45):
You're talking about there's only one true psychic service, the
Psychic Friends Network. Reasonably, a lot of these so called
psychic clubs and services as sprung up all over the
television screen, and they all do their very best to
look just like the Psychic Print Network. I believe me,
there's some very serious differences, and to prove that to
you will of bring you a free reading with one
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of our mass societies. So what are you when you're
on Pick up the phone and give it a try.
Substitutes are all right, be a coffee or tea, But
when it comes to psychic guidance, call the number at
the bottom of his stream. Now, all it takes is
a telephone and an open mind. Hiring it with inciding,
my psychic put me at ease right away.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
She was answering questions before I even asked them. I
was really impressed. We had a good time on the phone.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
My call to the Psychic Friends Network was enlightening.
Speaker 12 (21:39):
And it was fun and interesting, and I would definitely
call again.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
If you'd like to know about future success, money, romance
or grave danger, call us do it.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No one will know.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
With the advent of the infomercial, there are more than
ever from tapes that you can order and then eventually
to actual hotlines you can call, and we cannot talk
about these hotlines without talking about the Queen of hotlines herself,
Miss Cleo.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
If you're love my last trouble, the power of the
cald can help call me for your free reading. Now,
there is a secret, baby, You understand me in this relationship,
the situation that we're looking at that is one of
another relationship. Let me stop trying to be polite. You
understand me, and the secret is yours?
Speaker 9 (22:33):
Is it not someone else?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And you are too.
Speaker 14 (22:36):
Miss Cleo was a psychic advisor and she read Tarot
cars Girl.
Speaker 12 (22:42):
No, he did it.
Speaker 11 (22:44):
Yes, like I felt like I was watching a Morie episode,
but like just her.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You were feeling as if she was cheating on you,
weren't you? Yeah, I did, That's what she was.
Speaker 14 (22:54):
It was the best install live you could have had
in nineteen ninety so it was so good, so good.
Speaker 15 (23:01):
If anyone watched TV after midnight from like ninety nine
or like two thousand two whatever, if you knew who
Miss Cleo was, well you never know where.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Miss Cleo is going to show up.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I'm on TV, I'm on the radio, and sometimes like today,
I'm on TV while I'm on the radio. All right,
go ahead, I recently divorce. Mm hm, congratulations.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
This is whom call me. Miss Cleo was.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
A beautiful theasis.
Speaker 14 (23:28):
It was clear that she was appropriating the accent and
that it was at an authentic Jamaican accent.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
She was quick on the draw.
Speaker 16 (23:36):
She would take these sort of ordinary questions and launch
into sort of like very funny, very unexpected sort of
spiels about whatever the topic at hand was.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Who ask you to go out of tell him the
stupid young one or the married one, marry one. That's
what I thought, don't.
Speaker 17 (23:53):
Go yeah you hear?
Speaker 14 (23:53):
I mean, this was like the girlfriend you invited over
for coffee. Then I'm oh, no, no, no, that's the one
he's been cheating on.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
You'll see.
Speaker 11 (24:00):
I'm going to tell you the real deal.
Speaker 14 (24:01):
They didn't just want to hear about the future. They
wanted what she gave, which other psychics and other infomotional
didn't give.
Speaker 11 (24:08):
She gave you the truth.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I don't want to nowhere.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Around them, not in his car, not in his presence.
Your mother would have a proverbial fit.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I want a.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Gone from him, Janisan, Yes, Mayo, I.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Do believe that Miss Cleo was a talented tarot card reader,
and I actually really do like tarot card readings because
a person can't lie to you in quite the same way.
Of course, they can interpret the cards to do anything
or so something like a tarot card reading or a
birth chart. I think that's a lot of fun. I
think that can be insightful if you're taking from it
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what you will, And I think it's less hard to
manipulate people through that, unlike some things which I find
to be a lot more predatory, like celebrity mediums for example,
And in general, I'm pretty skeptical of mediums. There are
people I believe who are more into with things, but
I have a huge problem if anyone is ever going
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to sit there and be like, oh, yeah, your grandma's
talking to me, the person you're paying four hundred dollars
an hour to talk to, instead of talking to you,
fuck off. My grandmother would so much rather talk to me.
She would be so mad that you were taking my
four hundred dollars. She would like physically try and ghost
(25:24):
attack you. Psychic. But this is one thing that my
family is really big into. The goddamn mediums, even for
a dog. They brought one in for a dog one time.
One of the biggest family fallouts that we had was
over a medium trigger warning for a second. In twenty thirteen,
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my cousin took his own life and he was young,
he was only twenty five, and we were all really
blindsided and devastated. He didn't leave a note or anything,
so everyone was looking for answers, and at his funeral,
they make the mistake not even the funeral, the wake
that like felt like it went on for days. They
make the mistake of telling me that they're gonna have
(26:07):
a medium come. And his aunt, who was not my aunt,
like from the other side, starts explaining to me of
this group of people around me, and they're like, yeah, well,
if someone takes their own life, then they're trapped in
purgatory until after they're wake, so it's really good if
you have a psychic come and a medium to come
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to help them. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
And these are all people who think they're Catholic. So
I lost my shit on like another level. My mom
still refers to this, like still wants me to apologize
for this. The time I the time I yelled at
everyone and I won't because I'm not sorry. But oh
my god, I was like screaming, you people, and you're Catholic,
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dogma read it? You've never read the Bible? Where are
you getting this from? And I left, I really left
town before they had this medium come. I believe her
name is Marianne, and she's supposed to be like one
of the best mediums in all of Cleveland, in all
of Cleveland. And I love this though, because when she comes,
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there's no sign of my cousin. It's just like some
random dude there named like Bob. She's like, I'm getting
like a Bob in his sixties. Good, that's what you
all deserved. And afterward, just to show you that I'm
just just as bad as them in a way, I
did like a ritual in the woods with my dog
Sawyer and made like a circle to try and communicate
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with my dad cousin. But mine was like way better.
I wasn't paying some stranger money to just tell me
there's a random guy there. And if you're asking, but Danielle,
why are you so crazy? Wouldn't this have just helped
your family to get a nice message and be like, hey,
it's me. I'm fine. No, And I will give you
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a good example why. And it is Sylvia Brown and
Amanda Berry.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
In fact, it's one thing to be a psychic predicting
love or the lack thereof.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Can you tell me where my love life's going?
Speaker 11 (28:11):
Nowhere?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
But there's nothing funny when it comes to predicting life
or death.
Speaker 11 (28:18):
She's gone. Do you know where she's at? In the
house or under the house.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
In that case, psychic Sylvia Brown was right, but now
she's under attack. What a horrible human being for being
wrong about this girl. Almost nine years ago, Amanda Barry's
mom went on the Montel Williams ship though, where residents
psychic Sylvia Brown spoke of Amanda.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Don't take her again?
Speaker 11 (28:48):
Yeah in heaven On the other side.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
The WMMS Morning show in Cleveland re enacted the transcript.
The host read the part of the psychic.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I hate this when they're in water.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
She's not alive, honey, not alive?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Then, who's this?
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I've been doing that, man, I've been looking for ten
years and I'm here.
Speaker 16 (29:08):
I'm fine now.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Amanda's mom is the one no longer alive. She came
home from the psychics reading telling the Cleveland Plain dealer.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
She was devastated.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
She died a little more than a year later after
being hospitalized with pancreatitis. Now Sylvia Brown is getting ripped
on social media. Brown is a grief vampire, nothing short
of evil. You didn't have to be a psychic to
predict what Sylvia Brown would say about her mistake. I
have been more right than wrong. If ever there was
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a time to be grateful and relieved for being mistaken,
this is that time. Only God is right all the time.
My heart goes out to Amanda Barry.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
I was really into Sylvia Brown when I was younger.
I really, I like the whole angels thing, and she
talked a lot about the angel's stuff, and I would.
My mom had a lot of her books, and basically
Sylvia whole gist is when she was really young, when
she was four or five years old, really little. This
woman brand scene, I need to look at my notes.
I don't having in front of me. Who is like
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this fifteenth century Spanish woman materializes in Sylvia's bedroom and
is like, hey, I'm your spirit guide. Sylvia runs to
her mom and is like, oh, there's this lady in
my room, and her mom and grandma are like, it's okay,
you have a special gift. So after that she starts
she has her spirit guide who speaks perfect English, and
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also she's communicating with angels. I guess God directly too,
but I don't know if any differently than anyone else.
Sylvia Brown's books really started circulating at the beginning of
the COVID nineteen pandemic because she had made a prediction
that in twenty twenty, a virus would sweep the globe
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that would affect the chest and the lungs, and then
it would disappear as quickly as it came. So people
really took that as a sign, even though she said
a lot of things that weren't true, like your daughter's
dead and I can see her underwater. She's not watching
this from a Cleveland House of Horrors. Well changed to
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a bed. Just don't say anything at all. Like she
did that to a lot of like nine to eleven
widows too. They'd be like, my husband died in the
towers and she's like, I see water and they're like, no,
there was nothing left of him. And she's like, well,
maybe he was getting hit with a hose. I see water.
Just just maybe not just or if I was gonna lie,
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I would just be like, yes, they're they're at peace
or something vague like that. But then also, what if
she's not lying, and then she just really believes that.
And psychic messages aren't true all the time, but if
they're even wrong some of the time, I would not
be like, hey, let me tell you what dead people say.
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I feel like giving predictions about the living is one thing,
but then if you're gonna if you're gonna speak for
the dead, even though there are certain people I believe
and I don't know why I believe them, and let's
do one I really believe next, and that is Alison Dubois.
You may know her because the show Medium was based
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off of her, or you may know her from the
dinner party from Hell of Season one of Beverly Hills.
The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Psychic crime profiler Alison Dubois I got it all.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
I'm both the medium of the psychic. I assist law
enforcement to help to bring conclusion to criminal cases.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
The way that I do that is I head tap
the criminal. I get into their head, I hear their thoughts,
I look through their eyes.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
When she was six years old, Allison says she saw
her dead great grandfather appear by the foot of her bed.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
He was smiling, and he said, tell your mom, I'm
not in pain anymore.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Then I'm still weather.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Allison says she also hears voices, and at seventeen, one
of them actually saved her life.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
I heard a voice say move your bed, so I
moved my bed from the south wall to the east wall.
In a couple hours after that, a truck came barreling
through my bedroom wall and missed my head by not
much as it was, so if I hadn't moved.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
To bed, would have died.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
This is from Allison's first interview with Oprah Well.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
First of all, I wanted to ask you when you
went to your mother at six years old, after you
had a visit from your grandfather at the foot of
the bed and you told your mother what your grandfather
had said. What did your mother say, go back to bed.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
She didn't know what to make of it.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
And it was the seventies.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
I don't think they knew a lot then what to
do with kids like me.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
And when did you start to take this seriously or
believe that there was more than well?
Speaker 8 (33:55):
When I was interning in homicide to be a prosecuting attorney.
It was my job to sort the crime scene photos
to go to court, and I started seeing things that
were happening before the crimes. Crime photos had taken place
before the person was actually killed.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
So I looking at the photos.
Speaker 11 (34:10):
I'm looking at the photos.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
And just touching the paperwork with their names on it,
things of that nature.
Speaker 11 (34:15):
So I decided to test that theory.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I took three.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Missing persons cases from across the country. I did what
I call a write up, writing impressions on them, and
I faxed it to law enforcement that was taking care
of that case, expecting I was an overworked mother of
three that would never hear back from them and my
conscience could be clean. That I tried, and I heard
back from Texas, the Tarrant County Sheriff's Department, and they said,
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this information was never released and can you come to Texas?
And that was my first case.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
The information that you would put in the letter had
never been released, right, So you were onto something, yeah,
I thought.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Yeah, So I was able to tell them when they
would recover the child's body.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
And how did you know that?
Speaker 8 (34:56):
I just saw five years in my head, and they
found her at four year. Nine months after.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
That was Allison talking to Oprah. Now, let's hear her
prophecy she made that recently came true.
Speaker 11 (35:09):
Thank go call you to something.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
I think I've been having a great conversation.
Speaker 18 (35:14):
I mean, the fact that you had even asked that
would offend her, your grandmother.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
I was studying by scientists for several years, and on
Oprah in front of.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Seventy million people. I'm kind of like a drug.
Speaker 11 (35:28):
Once you get one, you want it again.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
Well, can you just tell us about tournay scary, something
that's not scary?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yeah, oh my god, But what I want to tell
you might be irritating to you, So.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Don't care. Okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Have you been married twice? Oh well, then that's the
last one you have.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I guess that's good news.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
I was thinking she was going to have to get
married again, which meaning you'd.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Have a divorce.
Speaker 11 (35:58):
If my husband ever leaves me away with him, I'll.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Never emotionally fulfill you ever.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Know that?
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Oh my gosh, know this, he will never emotionally fulfill you.
That line that has played in my head on a
loop for over a decade. And she was right, But
There is something about Allison's sarcasm and her honesty and
almost a bit of she seems bothered by even having
this ability if for some reason I just really believe her.
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Maybe not everything she says or that she's right all
of the time, but I do think she's one of
those those people. I think she's an NGOs Swan where
something something is happening there. Mediums in general just totally
blow up from John Edwards having his own show.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
At a very young age, one young boiler, and he
have special gift.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
This is the other side Stan.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
The psychics very careful.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
This is a trick that I am doing. Okay, what
all I'm gonna do is say a name. I'm gonna Piguman.
You want me to acknowledge Pete or Peter.
Speaker 11 (37:03):
Yes, yes, clapping.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
All I did was like a random name and wait
for somebody in the audience to give a response. Now
that I see that, there's a lone woman crying tells
me Peter was her husband. So I say, Peter was
your husband?
Speaker 16 (37:17):
Yes, yes, yes, my husband Peter standid.
Speaker 11 (37:21):
I didn't do anything.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Now let's see if Stan is different from the real
John Edward as he appears on the Doctor Phil.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Show party anchor.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
There's like two people in the audience that have their
hand raised even though John Edward has his back turn,
and that would be me, like, excuse.
Speaker 16 (37:45):
Me, sir.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
To Teresa Capudo, the Long Island medium who she she
provides like she she does, she does, she does know
the assignment and show up for it because if nothing
else that the parodies of her are incredible and I
sincerely love her hair. That's probably obvious.
Speaker 18 (38:05):
Today I'm at doctor Amen's office and he just recorded
my brain while I was reading someone. Hopefully I'll actually
get some scientific proof that my brain.
Speaker 11 (38:16):
Doesn't work like everyone else's. Can anything happen?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
So let me explain this to you.
Speaker 15 (38:24):
Okay, this is how fast or slow your brain works.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Okay.
Speaker 15 (38:29):
A little bit of yellow right is high activity okay,
and blue is low activity.
Speaker 11 (38:39):
Okay.
Speaker 15 (38:40):
When you're channeling, your brain's just a little bit sleepier.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
People meditate to get back. You're obviously in.
Speaker 15 (38:48):
A different state, so you're really tuned into something. A
Doctor Daniel Aman, I'm a brain imaging expert and I'm
the founder of Amen Clinics. The big thing discovered is
when she's channeling energy in her brain, drops, which means
her own thoughts are sort of tuning out so she
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can tune in to the spiritual world.
Speaker 18 (39:14):
So there is a definite difference in my brain when
I'm channeling.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
I would have liked a little bit more of an
explanation of what made her bring difference. I couldn't tell
from the pictures, but now it seems like everything is
all about Tyler Henry and there is something about him
that bothers me so much. I think it's the fact
that he meets people like Bobby Brown and it's like, oh,
(39:40):
I don't know who Whitney Houston is. I watched so
many of his episodes and the only person he recognized
was Sabrina the teenage Witch Melissa Joan Hart. I'm like
a dozens of people with Michael Jackson. He's like, oh no,
and they don't even give him a lie of being amish.
They're just like he was shy and Christian and from
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the South or something like that means anything. I'm so sorry. Okay.
This is from a segment they did on Vice, The
Secrets of a Celebrity Psychic. Thousands of people paid around
fifty dollars at a casino in Welsh, Minnesota to see
Tyler Henry, a psychic medium to celebrities speak to their
dead loved ones. Henry got famous for his self proclaimed
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powers after he was featured on an episode of Keeping
Up with the Kardashians. From there, he launched his own
show where he's given readings to celebrities like Moby, Lil
John and former NBC News anchor Matt Lower. I'm reading
their description, but I'm gonna stop and playing their segment.
(40:46):
If Matt Lower could trust him, I mean that the
Kardashians and Matt Lower. I'm like, what Morgio and Mope
and Moby Oh and Little John, Little John that back
that Little John actually counts for me. If Little John
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was like, this is my psychic I would be like, Okay,
what do you have here?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Have pictures of my mom and dad's wedding.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
My dad passed away seventeen years ago, and I'm hoping
that Tyler will that he'll come through.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
So I just lost my mom, so I would like
to see if something comes through.
Speaker 16 (41:31):
It's just curiosity, like a lot of questions that like
I just want answered and makes you feel very calm
knowing that they're sending you messages.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Please welcome Hollywood mem Tyler Hellry.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
Wow, Hello everybody.
Speaker 10 (41:53):
Wow, I want two of.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
You showed up of the good.
Speaker 17 (42:01):
I know everybody has varying degrees of belief, but kind
I'm excited to share with you. Regardless of beliefs, I'm
truly validating testimonials of life after death.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Does that sound good?
Speaker 6 (42:13):
It actually sounds a little bit like a John Steinbeck
or Mark Twain's story where someone's like, oh, I'm a
really good preacher sent here by God. But if you
want to hear me, maybe contact your dead loved ones.
That will be fifty dollars. If I could let people
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talk to their dead loved ones, I wouldn't charge any
money because they're dead loved ones. Would be saying to me,
if you charge my morning loved one money, I'm gonna
fucking haunt you forever.
Speaker 8 (42:45):
Right?
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Is that the science of ghost hunting?
Speaker 8 (42:50):
All right?
Speaker 6 (42:51):
We're one minute and ten seconds into this clip on
Tyler Henry, and I'll stop screaming.
Speaker 19 (43:02):
These people paid around fifty dollars for a chance to
interact with the dead through twenty three year old psychic
Tyler Henry, better known to his legion of fans.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
As the Hollywood mediums three years when you.
Speaker 19 (43:14):
Started kind of, for lack of a better phrase, professionalizing this.
Speaker 17 (43:18):
Well, that really started when I was around sixteen. I
graduated high school early with the goal of trying to
become a hospice nurse. And while I was enrolling, I
was basically just doing readings on the side for people
through word of mouth. I believe that if someone is legitimate,
they should not have to advertise. You shouldn't have to
have a neon.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Sign or or a psychic job.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
And you know, my.
Speaker 17 (43:38):
Goal was just to really help people, whether it was
in a public sense.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
We're in a private since the hospice. I just wanted
to share what I knew I could do.
Speaker 17 (43:44):
But there are a lot of issues when it comes
to becoming a public medium, being the public eye, and
I didn't know at that time in my life if.
Speaker 11 (43:50):
I was ready to explore that in what sense.
Speaker 17 (43:53):
I knew all the criticism that I was going to
get when I went public, and I made the decision
ultimately to go public.
Speaker 19 (43:58):
Regardless his career exploded after an appearance on Keeping Up
with the Kardashians.
Speaker 17 (44:05):
I don't know, it's kind of an odd feeling right
when I walked in, it was like there was a
feeling like there was something here.
Speaker 19 (44:11):
Soon after, his own show debuted Communes with the dead
relatives of famous actors and musicians. It's been a huge
rating success because now in its fourth season.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Are you sure? Are you sure we've never met before?
Speaker 17 (44:26):
I'm pretty sure Bob is blown away.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Hundred and seventy five thousand people.
Speaker 19 (44:32):
So if I do this, tell me how it works,
Like I hop to the top of the list.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
I have to find the Bobby Brown, the Bobby Brown
video when Bob Tyler Henry gives Bobby Brown a reading.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
What are the circumstances?
Speaker 19 (44:49):
Does it have to be in any particular venue?
Speaker 4 (44:52):
I mean, you do it and obviously a big.
Speaker 17 (44:53):
Huge venue place like its usually more of a matter
of time, usually requires about an hour preparation and then
an hour just kind of sit down with the person
and you're going on connection on because information. I'm glad
you said that, actually, because when you look at readings,
I think it's the specifics that come through that are
not researchable, are not googleble and reading celebrities. People tell
me all the time, Look, you're reading a celebrity, You've
can google them. There's so much shit out there about them.
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But the thing is is these people know the interviews
they've done, they know the stuff about them that's public information.
They know what's out there in the tabloids. But the
private details are what hitter reading. Home's the private facts,
the private specific stuff.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
Okay, almost everything for memory, just because I've read so
much about this stuff, and there were also so many
things I left out, But I love this kind of
weird stuff and consciousness especially and just the brain and
what our abilities are, what we might be able to do.
(45:47):
If you like hearing more stuff like this, let me know.
I'm definitely gonna do more stuff like this. And when
there's any kind of celebrity crossover, it's it's really it's
really interesting to me. I don't know why Tyler Henry
makes me so mad because he's not a Sylvia Brown,
but that's maybe just not yet. Be careful if you're
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going to be a Sylvia Brown, because remember, the person
you're saying is dead could just be trapped in a home.
And I still want if you're listening to this and
you're like, I'm psychic, you should really get that million dollars.
I won't even ask for a cut of it because
I'm going to try and do the test to myself.
But I'll put more of that on Patreon, and thank
(46:34):
you very much.
Speaker 17 (46:38):
I want to say there's either a Susan or a
Susie connection.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
To this cold. When she opened the door, I had
no idea who she was.
Speaker 17 (46:48):
She had an amazing energy and I could tell her
she was really open and she was the experience. Bobby
opened the door, I had no idea who he was.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
Thank you for listening to another episode of Broad's next
Door and for still sticking with me, even though I've
been so bad at keeping a schedule. This last month
in particular has been so hard for me. I really
had a hard time just even even functioning like that
level of sadness in this state of the world. Just
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waken a big change, and please follow me on social
media so we can talk about all of that. I
don't think this is something we're gonna, unfortunately be able
to love and light their our way out of. I
think it's going to take a lot more than that,
like literal revolution, so should be an interesting next year.
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I'm I'm ready for it, though, I'm ready for everything
to just be different and better and out with the old.
That's my psychic prediction for the next year is that
even though things are so so bad right now, that
with things being this horrible, that our eyes will be
opened to so many more or injustices and will be
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able to keep seeing things and make things better instead
of looking away and letting things stay the way that
they are. And even though I think a lot of
direct action will be necessary, a lot needs to happen.
Please don't be hateful with each other. No, please don't
turn away from human suffering. Please don't avoid having hard
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conversations with your friends. I know a lot of people
say not to talk about politics, but I don't think
this is politics. I think we just need to have
that basic communication with each other and look out for
each other and not lose our humanity. I love you
all a bunch. If you're feeling scared, if you're feeling sad,
you can always DM me or email me. I will
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always try my best to talk to you or point
you in the right direction with the right resources. Thank
you again for listening. I feel so sad. Okay, give bye.
Speaker 15 (49:01):
The novel.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
The novel.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
The novel.
Speaker 7 (49:10):
There a novel
Speaker 4 (49:13):
The novel
Gargoyles side scary days on goodly gog Savage.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Being a medium on Long Island is that a lot
of people have shared experiences with their loved ones.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Okay, uh, who had the grandfather who choked on.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
A meatful palm? Everybody?
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Okay, his it was sal or for Salvator.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
If you want him to believe that it's over, then
you gotta stop accepting the booty calls at two am
in the morning.
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Hello, neighbors, lovers, friends, mystics and mind readers. I'm Danielliscreama
and you're listening to Broad's next Door. Grab your clairvoyance
and your credit card because today we're talking all things
celebrity psychics. I have always thought I was a little
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bit psychic, but I really didn't see most of this coming,
any of this, And the last month I've really really struggled.
It's been hard for me to function, and I've been
recording different versions of this intro for over a month
because I don't know what to say at the same time,
(01:15):
in these times of mourning and loss and death where
people are just like, is this honestly the world? Seriously?
Is this?
Speaker 7 (01:24):
Is this?
Speaker 6 (01:25):
Is this the world?
Speaker 8 (01:26):
Is this?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
What we've decided on. Okay, it seems that people have
always sought advice from some form of psychic. The first
time I personally saw psychic was at my Catholic school's
second grade Halloween fair. They called her a fortune teller,
but I knew what was up. I already watched. I
watched a lot of cable, so I was prepared for that.
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But she did tell me that there would be a
date that was really significant for me, and it was
going to be May second, which ended up being my
first communion, which I'm sure she had in front of her,
But I was like, wow, where does she get her?
It was like, we should be doing more of this.
This is way cooler than the nuns or the priests.
They've predicted nothing. What I did not realize in nineteen
(02:09):
ninety two that I now realize is that she was
doing both a cold and hot reading, which are the
main two ways you do a psychic reading. So a
hot reading would be she had information in front of her,
She had the dates for the students of when significant
events would be happening, and the rest of it. A
cold reading, she just tears this seven year old dressed
(02:32):
as a witch with a lot of black eyeshadow on,
and I think she kind of just went from there.
And those are the same techniques that I've basically had
in every psychic reading sense. But that was my last
few months in Catholic school. After that, we briefly moved
to Italy, where I saw no psychics, but everyone seemed
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to interpret dreams, this prophecy, which is a pretty big
thing in my family. And then we moved to Florida,
where there are no dreams at all, just kidding, just kidding.
And in Florida, though, things became absolutely unhinged. In kind
of the best way. My dad opened up a new
kung fu school, and instead of ever having babysitters, I
(03:15):
got dumped with various taichi students. Suddenly I was surrounded
by adults who were like, no, you can't commit a sin.
What are you worried about? You're eight years old. You
can open up your third eye instead. So it was
a really really big shift. They were like, kids are
the most psychic of all. You have all these magic
abilities just for being a child, because the veil is
(03:39):
thin for you. So a lot of this did a
lot of this did scare me, I will tell you
when some of this stuff, but we would do things
like we'd line up against the wall and they'd show
me how to see someone's aura. So from early on,
I became a believer that we all had some kind
of power and energy within ourselves, some magic. Even with this,
(03:59):
though with this self proclaimed power that I was given,
that was in me, that was in everyone, I still
wanted the fortune teller, and in my adult life I've
seen many psychics as well. One of the reasons I
actually wanted to do this episode is because last year
I started doing something called the Gateway Process, which is
(04:21):
this thing the actual CIA developed to do remote viewing
and being able to astral project and stuff. But it
got so weird. I'll talk about the program a little
bit in this episode, but I don't even think I
can talk about my experiences without sounding so weird. I
thought it was just going to be like really intense meditation,
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but it's definitely CIA mind control, and I've hypnotized myself
and I don't know what else is going to happen,
And reading just thousands of pages of CIA documents on
their studies of esp and telekinesis like the Men whysteric
Goats stuff and after everything I've read, I absolutely do
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believe that people have psychic abilities. I believe that we
all have intuition to two varying degrees. Then I was thinking,
if I am such a believer, why am I so
skeptical of certain psychics Because for me, so much of
it would be about intention. Imagine you have this amazing
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gift where on the on demand you can just commune
with the dead, but when they commune to you, all
that comes across is like, oh, I'm getting I'm getting
getting a j name. And why do celebrity psychics so
often focus only on communicating with the dead and love
spell stuff? Probably because that's what people want the most.
But let's explore the history of modern day psychics and
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how we got to where we are, and then we'll
talk about some famous psychics. We're also going to be
talking about James Randy, who had the one million dollar
challenge for anyone who could prove their psychic abilities, and
so far, no one's won that million dollars, and that
is surprising to me. I'm not alone with my pursuit
in search of answers and wanting to see if consciousness
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will leave my body. I mean even what we know
of human history, from the oracles in ancient Greece to
the hieroglyphics in Egypt. In China, they would use bones
as for divination reading. I mean, there's so many different
examples for every culture. But we're going to skip ahead
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to after the Civil War, when spiritualism really really creeps
across the United States and kind of changes the playing
field of how we see modern day psychics. The appeal
of spiritualism was so big after the Civil War because
people had experienced such loss, sciences became a huge, huge
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group event and thing to do. Harry Todd Lincoln even
had like five of them in the White House. And
then at the front of this spiritualist movement where the
Fox Sisters, they would totally have their own reality TV
show now Margaret and Kate, so their seances become absolutely
legendary and they totally start a nationwide fascination with the
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after life. This is like the simple life of the
after life. And they're definitely not alone in this. There's
so many different branches of spiritualism too, But for what
we know now of this psychic reading, smoke and mirrors
kind of gig, this is their style there are things
that are actually more spiritual that are happening. But as
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much as you always have believers, you always have the skeptics.
And one of my greatest examples of a skeptic is
a lot of them are our magicians. And Harry Houdini
was a huge skeptic. He was known often as the
handcuff King, and he was a fierce critic of spiritualism.
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He was literally on a mission at one point to
unmask these charlatans, declaring spiritualism is the greatest fraud in
the world. And he was really good at unmasking a
lot of their illusions.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Oh, poor child, this is the magic trick. Huh collusion, Michael.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Once Hollywood enters the picture, psychics are are there. This
is just so them. And back in the day, stars
like Mary Pickford and Charlie Chaplin, the Hollywood silent film icons,
all consulted psychics for career advice and their love life guidance.
May West was also super into psychics and astrology. She said,
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I'm a great believer in the stars, darlings. In the
nineteen thirties, there's this guy Edgar Casey who is known
as the Sleeping Prophet because all of his stuff comes
to him when he's in like a translate state, which
is common with like profits and years. Even in modern
day and the age of secret the secret, you have
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people like Seth Jane Roberts with channels Seth and then
even more recently she still does this, Esther Hicks channels
Abraham and they just say they're basically accessing all the
information there ever was. Some people call it the Akashic records.
Some people think it's all knowledge. But Edgar Casey had
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access to this and he did make some World War
II predictions. It's so hard with these with this is
someone where there's so much online about the predictions that
they make. Now like a nostrodamis almost that it's so
hard to say what was from what he actually said
and what is people just really being out there. Things
do kind of slow down during World War Two, like
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the United States, like our favorite thing to do here
is build weapons, So when other countries started working on
like their psychic arsenals, we were just like, no, we're
gonna what about a nuclear bomb? And even afterward, I
don't see anything like after the Civil War where people
are like spiritualism instead, it's like everyone's like capitalism, don't
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do a spell? What about a refrigerator? We have so
much metal now. But this really does change. In the
nineteen sixties, so much of this spiritual movement and the
cultural Revolution expanding consciousness, so the fascination with psychics and
astrology reaches new heights. At this time. John Lennon and
Yoko oh No love mysticism. They saw spiritual guidance, had
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their own yogi and Guru did transcendental meditation. If I
was married Todd Lincoln or Yogo oh No, I would
be really pissed. I'd be like, hey, psychic, So I
feel like you forgot to mention this one thing. In
the seventies, the I think the psychic stuff becomes even
more mainstream. I mean, you have Shirley McLain super into
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the New Age, step Stevie Nicks, who is pretty open
about her mystical magical dreams. A really famous psychic during
this time was this guy INGOs Swan. And Ingo Swan
also got really wrapped up into remote viewing, and this
is with the Stargate project in the nineteen seventies. All
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these documents were disclosed in two thousand and three. Some afterward.
I've read thousands of pages on this because this is
all CIA stuff that they're doing and testing. They the
United States was really really slow to remote viewing. The
Soviet Union was already really good at it, everywhere else
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was better at it, and then the United States in
nineteen seventy they get this tape of this woman Helga
in the Soviet Union who can make a frog die
with her brain, and they're like, shit, we really really
really got to catch up. We really got to catch
up with our psychic stuff. They've been really focused on
the whole mk ultra thing and like creating a super
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soldier by giving them massive amounts of psychedelics and brainwashing them.
So during the Cold War, the CIA was really really
diving deep into the supernatural, and this CIA Gateway Project,
which was kind of part of the start Star gate project,
all of it was aimed to harness psychic abilities with
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the goal of espionage. They explored remote viewing, which is
a form of psychic perception that sought to uncover secrets
from a distance. So up until INGOs Swan, this had
been very much like here's information in an envelope, can
you see what it is? Then Ingo Swan came along
and he was like, this is boring. I want to
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just make up coordinates and I can show you any
place in the world. But even though the CIA was like, yes,
this is so true and we're so going to catch
up to the Soviet Unions, even though we barely believe
that this is real, in the United States, it seems
there's a really hard They have a really hard time
separating mysticism from religion and even believing that any of
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these things could exist without being religious. It's the biggest
thing they hit in the States with any of these
programs is that people are so skeptical. And in the
Soviet Union in China they were not expecting people to
be doing these things because they saw it as organized religion.
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And whereas in the Soviet Union they were like, no,
this is this is mysticism, bros. We've been doing this.
We've been doing this for a while. And then in
China they've been meditating since forever. So if you're gonna like,
I'll talk about this more, and I'll talk about this
more in the Patreon because it gets too to it
just gets so weird. You also had your geller at
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this time, who was like I can bend a spoon
with my mind. And all of this was well and
fine with the United States government. But James rand a
former magician, had had enough bending spoons and remote viewing.
Like he had to draw a line, and he says, Ingo,
Swan and all these other people are frauds. They're all
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just a bunch of tricksters. And he has a TV
show where people can go on and prove it.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
Welcome back to psychic power fact or fraud.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I'm David Asman.
Speaker 9 (14:22):
You want to win a million bucks, Well prove your
psychic ability to James Randy, and the money's yours. Winner
of the MacArthur Genius Award. A world famous magician and
escape artist, Randy's dedicated his life to searching for psychic power.
Juliet Huddy as the story here.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I am doing something out of there.
Speaker 10 (14:38):
I forgotten what it is, but I look to be
in an iron maiden of some kind.
Speaker 11 (14:42):
He was a modern day Houdini.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I guess I got out because I'm here, the.
Speaker 11 (14:46):
Pint sized magician. No milkcan, no coffin.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
This is the episode over Niagara Falls.
Speaker 12 (14:52):
Not even a straight jacket could hold his high flying
death defying acts earned him the nickname the Amazing Randy.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
I's on a Johnny Carson show and.
Speaker 11 (15:01):
Brought national fame.
Speaker 12 (15:03):
Of course, the Amazing Randy's a bit older now and
a lot less agile.
Speaker 10 (15:07):
It was fun, it was very challenging, and breaking out
of jails and struggling out of chains and things like that.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I'm a little over the hill for that sort of thing.
Speaker 12 (15:17):
Today, he's simply doctor James Randy, author, lecturer, and the
world's leading critic of all things psychic.
Speaker 10 (15:25):
I see people being run down by the scam artists
every day of my life. I try to take them
out of the way of harm, and I try to
get help for them if I possibly can.
Speaker 13 (15:36):
When people blend superstition with science and make people believe
that it really is true, that things are really true
that are not, this is where James Randy comes in
and he sees through all the fraud and all the fluff.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
He gets right down at.
Speaker 13 (15:55):
The meat and he discovers where there is any meet
there or there's just you know that isn't very tasty.
Speaker 12 (16:02):
From psychic superstars to local tarot card readers, if someone's
claiming supernatural ability, you.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Can bet this is another version of the solar system.
Speaker 12 (16:11):
Randy and his cohorts that the James Randy Educational Foundation
in Fort Lauderdale can explain it away.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I am looking for what is true.
Speaker 10 (16:20):
Bertrand Russell said it, and we've used it as our
catchphrase here. What is wanted is not the will to believe,
but the will to find out. Here at the Foundation,
we're determined to find out.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
So determined.
Speaker 12 (16:34):
In fact, the Foundation is offering a million dollars.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
To anyone could provide evidence of any paranormal, occult or
supernatural event or power of any kind under proper observing conditions.
It would think that they've been knocking that door down
right now, you're from to do what they do every
day and collect money for But I don't hear many knocks,
It's true.
Speaker 11 (16:57):
Instead, what he is hearing our complaint.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
I'm being sued all the time by psychics and bi parapsychologists,
but particularly mister Gelly.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
He's the champion.
Speaker 12 (17:06):
His bitter feud with self proclaimed clairvoyant, telepothist and psychokineticist
Uri Geller is now into its third decade. It started
with Randy Colling Geller nothing more than a talented trickster.
Speaker 10 (17:20):
All I can tell mister Geller is if he's doing
spoon bending by divine means, he's doing it a hard way.
Speaker 12 (17:28):
Why Why do rational people believe in something science and
investigators like Randy have proven untrue?
Speaker 10 (17:34):
Because I think they're looking for some magic in their lives.
They're looking for control of the world around them.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I want to read you part of an article that
I found in my research that's from New York Magazine.
This is called so are Psychics Real or What? By
Kate Heeney. Parapsychology, also called PSI, the study of mental
or psychic phenomenon which can't be explained by the laws
of science as we know them, used to pretty common
research among early formative psychologists. Freud studied it, William James,
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the founder of American Academy of Psychology, studied it. The
Harvard psychologist Hugo Munsterenberg studied it. While much of this
work focused on exposing fraudulent self proclaimed psychic mediums, those
psychologists who engage with the subject of PSI maintained a
genuine interest in the subject, for which similarly interested contemporary
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psychologists are routinely mocked. According to News research. Perhaps the
most famous modern day parapsychology friendly psychologist is Darryl Bem,
whose twenty eleven experiments inspired a crisis in his field.
Some of his peers thought his paper was a hoax.
Others took issues with his methods, which they admitted were
technically correct. But if Bem could prove something so it
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landished a psychic ability with acceptable social science methodology, they
said there had to be something wrong with accepted social
science methodology. So basically, in this experiment, what they did
they had subjects in a sound proof room and they're blindfolded,
and they're asked to describe a film clip that they
have not seen, which they're either shown after the fact,
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or which is played simultaneously but in another room. If
experimental judges can use these descriptions to choose the specified
clip from the other distractor clips, this is considered positive evidence.
Prepare Psychology Startingly. Meta analysis of Gansfield procedure said he
shows statistically significant support for this psychic effect. So even
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when these tests are done and the results are positive,
the problem is always repeatability. The same thing happened with
the Stargate project that was closed in nineteen ninety five
that they say it really was. It's still going. Repeatability
is really hard. It's something that happened when people would
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go head to head with James Randy. That's why nobody
has the million dollars. Sylvia Brown, she was another person
who said she would take James re Andy's test, and
it was up to a million dollars by then, and
she never did it. I'm still surprised more people don't.
I've already convinced myself. I'm like, I could get that
million dollars with remote viewing. But it is set up.
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It is set up harder set up scientifically. He does
other things to make sure you're not cheating, or he
did other things. The world didn't want more James Randy's
The world wanted more psychic friends.
Speaker 11 (20:27):
Substitutes, all right, I share the substitute. I saw substitute.
They're fine, But when it comes to the kind of
personal guidance that could actually change your life, you want
the real deal. And that's especially true when it comes
to psychic guidance.
Speaker 14 (20:40):
When someone told me to call one of those imitations psychic.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Clubs, Gary Simlen, when.
Speaker 11 (20:45):
You're talking about there's only one true psychic service, the
Psychic Friends Network. Reasonably, a lot of these so called
psychic clubs and services as sprung up all over the
television screen, and they all do their very best to
look just like the Psychic Print Network. I believe me,
there's some very serious differences, and to prove that to
you will of bring you a free reading with one
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of our mass societies. So what are you when you're
on Pick up the phone and give it a try.
Substitutes are all right, be a coffee or tea, But
when it comes to psychic guidance, call the number at
the bottom of his stream. Now, all it takes is
a telephone and an open mind. Hiring it with inciding,
my psychic put me at ease right away.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
She was answering questions before I even asked them. I
was really impressed. We had a good time on the phone.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
My call to the Psychic Friends Network was enlightening.
Speaker 12 (21:39):
And it was fun and interesting, and I would definitely
call again.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
If you'd like to know about future success, money, romance
or grave danger, call us do it.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No one will know.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
With the advent of the infomercial, there are more than
ever from tapes that you can order and then eventually
to actual hotlines you can call, and we cannot talk
about these hotlines without talking about the Queen of hotlines herself,
Miss Cleo.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
If you're love my last trouble, the power of the
cald can help call me for your free reading. Now,
there is a secret, baby, You understand me in this relationship,
the situation that we're looking at that is one of
another relationship. Let me stop trying to be polite. You
understand me, and the secret is yours?
Speaker 9 (22:33):
Is it not someone else?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And you are too.
Speaker 14 (22:36):
Miss Cleo was a psychic advisor and she read Tarot
cars Girl.
Speaker 12 (22:42):
No, he did it.
Speaker 11 (22:44):
Yes, like I felt like I was watching a Morie episode,
but like just her.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
You were feeling as if she was cheating on you,
weren't you? Yeah, I did, That's what she was.
Speaker 14 (22:54):
It was the best install live you could have had
in nineteen ninety so it was so good, so good.
Speaker 15 (23:01):
If anyone watched TV after midnight from like ninety nine
or like two thousand two whatever, if you knew who
Miss Cleo was, well you never know where.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Miss Cleo is going to show up.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I'm on TV, I'm on the radio, and sometimes like today,
I'm on TV while I'm on the radio. All right,
go ahead, I recently divorce. Mm hm, congratulations.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
This is whom call me. Miss Cleo was.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
A beautiful theasis.
Speaker 14 (23:28):
It was clear that she was appropriating the accent and
that it was at an authentic Jamaican accent.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
She was quick on the draw.
Speaker 16 (23:36):
She would take these sort of ordinary questions and launch
into sort of like very funny, very unexpected sort of
spiels about whatever the topic at hand was.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Who ask you to go out of tell him the
stupid young one or the married one, marry one. That's
what I thought, don't.
Speaker 17 (23:53):
Go yeah you hear?
Speaker 14 (23:53):
I mean, this was like the girlfriend you invited over
for coffee. Then I'm oh, no, no, no, that's the one
he's been cheating on.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
You'll see.
Speaker 11 (24:00):
I'm going to tell you the real deal.
Speaker 14 (24:01):
They didn't just want to hear about the future. They
wanted what she gave, which other psychics and other infomotional
didn't give.
Speaker 11 (24:08):
She gave you the truth.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I don't want to nowhere.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Around them, not in his car, not in his presence.
Your mother would have a proverbial fit.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I want a.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Gone from him, Janisan, Yes, Mayo, I.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Do believe that Miss Cleo was a talented tarot card reader,
and I actually really do like tarot card readings because
a person can't lie to you in quite the same way.
Of course, they can interpret the cards to do anything
or so something like a tarot card reading or a
birth chart. I think that's a lot of fun. I
think that can be insightful if you're taking from it
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what you will, And I think it's less hard to
manipulate people through that, unlike some things which I find
to be a lot more predatory, like celebrity mediums for example,
And in general, I'm pretty skeptical of mediums. There are
people I believe who are more into with things, but
I have a huge problem if anyone is ever going
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to sit there and be like, oh, yeah, your grandma's
talking to me, the person you're paying four hundred dollars
an hour to talk to, instead of talking to you,
fuck off. My grandmother would so much rather talk to me.
She would be so mad that you were taking my
four hundred dollars. She would like physically try and ghost
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attack you. Psychic. But this is one thing that my
family is really big into. The goddamn mediums, even for
a dog. They brought one in for a dog one time.
One of the biggest family fallouts that we had was
over a medium trigger warning for a second. In twenty thirteen,
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my cousin took his own life and he was young,
he was only twenty five, and we were all really
blindsided and devastated. He didn't leave a note or anything,
so everyone was looking for answers, and at his funeral,
they make the mistake not even the funeral, the wake
that like felt like it went on for days. They
make the mistake of telling me that they're gonna have
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a medium come. And his aunt, who was not my aunt,
like from the other side, starts explaining to me of
this group of people around me, and they're like, yeah, well,
if someone takes their own life, then they're trapped in
purgatory until after they're wake, so it's really good if
you have a psychic come and a medium to come
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to help them. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
And these are all people who think they're Catholic. So
I lost my shit on like another level. My mom
still refers to this, like still wants me to apologize
for this. The time I the time I yelled at
everyone and I won't because I'm not sorry. But oh
my god, I was like screaming, you people, and you're Catholic,
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dogma read it? You've never read the Bible? Where are
you getting this from? And I left, I really left
town before they had this medium come. I believe her
name is Marianne, and she's supposed to be like one
of the best mediums in all of Cleveland, in all
of Cleveland. And I love this though, because when she comes,
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there's no sign of my cousin. It's just like some
random dude there named like Bob. She's like, I'm getting
like a Bob in his sixties. Good, that's what you
all deserved. And afterward, just to show you that I'm
just just as bad as them in a way, I
did like a ritual in the woods with my dog
Sawyer and made like a circle to try and communicate
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with my dad cousin. But mine was like way better.
I wasn't paying some stranger money to just tell me
there's a random guy there. And if you're asking, but Danielle,
why are you so crazy? Wouldn't this have just helped
your family to get a nice message and be like, hey,
it's me. I'm fine. No, And I will give you
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a good example why. And it is Sylvia Brown and
Amanda Berry.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
In fact, it's one thing to be a psychic predicting
love or the lack thereof.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Can you tell me where my love life's going?
Speaker 11 (28:11):
Nowhere?
Speaker 3 (28:14):
But there's nothing funny when it comes to predicting life
or death.
Speaker 11 (28:18):
She's gone. Do you know where she's at? In the
house or under the house.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
In that case, psychic Sylvia Brown was right, but now
she's under attack. What a horrible human being for being
wrong about this girl. Almost nine years ago, Amanda Barry's
mom went on the Montel Williams ship though, where residents
psychic Sylvia Brown spoke of Amanda.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Don't take her again?
Speaker 11 (28:48):
Yeah in heaven On the other side.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
The WMMS Morning show in Cleveland re enacted the transcript.
The host read the part of the psychic.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I hate this when they're in water.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
She's not alive, honey, not alive?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Then, who's this?
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I've been doing that, man, I've been looking for ten
years and I'm here.
Speaker 16 (29:08):
I'm fine now.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Amanda's mom is the one no longer alive. She came
home from the psychics reading telling the Cleveland Plain dealer.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
She was devastated.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
She died a little more than a year later after
being hospitalized with pancreatitis. Now Sylvia Brown is getting ripped
on social media. Brown is a grief vampire, nothing short
of evil. You didn't have to be a psychic to
predict what Sylvia Brown would say about her mistake. I
have been more right than wrong. If ever there was
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a time to be grateful and relieved for being mistaken,
this is that time. Only God is right all the time.
My heart goes out to Amanda Barry.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
I was really into Sylvia Brown when I was younger.
I really, I like the whole angels thing, and she
talked a lot about the angel's stuff, and I would.
My mom had a lot of her books, and basically
Sylvia whole gist is when she was really young, when
she was four or five years old, really little. This
woman brand scene, I need to look at my notes.
I don't having in front of me. Who is like
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this fifteenth century Spanish woman materializes in Sylvia's bedroom and
is like, hey, I'm your spirit guide. Sylvia runs to
her mom and is like, oh, there's this lady in
my room, and her mom and grandma are like, it's okay,
you have a special gift. So after that she starts
she has her spirit guide who speaks perfect English, and
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also she's communicating with angels. I guess God directly too,
but I don't know if any differently than anyone else.
Sylvia Brown's books really started circulating at the beginning of
the COVID nineteen pandemic because she had made a prediction
that in twenty twenty, a virus would sweep the globe
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that would affect the chest and the lungs, and then
it would disappear as quickly as it came. So people
really took that as a sign, even though she said
a lot of things that weren't true, like your daughter's
dead and I can see her underwater. She's not watching
this from a Cleveland House of Horrors. Well changed to
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a bed. Just don't say anything at all. Like she
did that to a lot of like nine to eleven
widows too. They'd be like, my husband died in the
towers and she's like, I see water and they're like, no,
there was nothing left of him. And she's like, well,
maybe he was getting hit with a hose. I see water.
Just just maybe not just or if I was gonna lie,
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I would just be like, yes, they're they're at peace
or something vague like that. But then also, what if
she's not lying, and then she just really believes that.
And psychic messages aren't true all the time, but if
they're even wrong some of the time, I would not
be like, hey, let me tell you what dead people say.
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I feel like giving predictions about the living is one thing,
but then if you're gonna if you're gonna speak for
the dead, even though there are certain people I believe
and I don't know why I believe them, and let's
do one I really believe next, and that is Alison Dubois.
You may know her because the show Medium was based
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off of her, or you may know her from the
dinner party from Hell of Season one of Beverly Hills.
The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Psychic crime profiler Alison Dubois I got it all.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
I'm both the medium of the psychic. I assist law
enforcement to help to bring conclusion to criminal cases.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
The way that I do that is I head tap
the criminal. I get into their head, I hear their thoughts,
I look through their eyes.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
When she was six years old, Allison says she saw
her dead great grandfather appear by the foot of her bed.
Speaker 8 (33:00):
He was smiling, and he said, tell your mom, I'm
not in pain anymore.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
Then I'm still weather.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Allison says she also hears voices, and at seventeen, one
of them actually saved her life.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
I heard a voice say move your bed, so I
moved my bed from the south wall to the east wall.
In a couple hours after that, a truck came barreling
through my bedroom wall and missed my head by not
much as it was, so if I hadn't moved.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
To bed, would have died.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
This is from Allison's first interview with Oprah Well.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
First of all, I wanted to ask you when you
went to your mother at six years old, after you
had a visit from your grandfather at the foot of
the bed and you told your mother what your grandfather
had said. What did your mother say, go back to bed.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
She didn't know what to make of it.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
And it was the seventies.
Speaker 8 (33:47):
I don't think they knew a lot then what to
do with kids like me.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
And when did you start to take this seriously or
believe that there was more than well?
Speaker 8 (33:55):
When I was interning in homicide to be a prosecuting attorney.
It was my job to sort the crime scene photos
to go to court, and I started seeing things that
were happening before the crimes. Crime photos had taken place
before the person was actually killed.
Speaker 5 (34:09):
So I looking at the photos.
Speaker 11 (34:10):
I'm looking at the photos.
Speaker 8 (34:11):
And just touching the paperwork with their names on it,
things of that nature.
Speaker 11 (34:15):
So I decided to test that theory.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
I took three.
Speaker 8 (34:18):
Missing persons cases from across the country. I did what
I call a write up, writing impressions on them, and
I faxed it to law enforcement that was taking care
of that case, expecting I was an overworked mother of
three that would never hear back from them and my
conscience could be clean. That I tried, and I heard
back from Texas, the Tarrant County Sheriff's Department, and they said,
(34:39):
this information was never released and can you come to Texas?
And that was my first case.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
The information that you would put in the letter had
never been released, right, So you were onto something, yeah,
I thought.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Yeah, So I was able to tell them when they
would recover the child's body.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
And how did you know that?
Speaker 8 (34:56):
I just saw five years in my head, and they
found her at four year. Nine months after.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
That was Allison talking to Oprah. Now, let's hear her
prophecy she made that recently came true.
Speaker 11 (35:09):
Thank go call you to something.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
I think I've been having a great conversation.
Speaker 18 (35:14):
I mean, the fact that you had even asked that
would offend her, your grandmother.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
I was studying by scientists for several years, and on
Oprah in front of.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Seventy million people. I'm kind of like a drug.
Speaker 11 (35:28):
Once you get one, you want it again.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
Well, can you just tell us about tournay scary, something
that's not scary?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yeah, oh my god, But what I want to tell
you might be irritating to you, So.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Don't care. Okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Have you been married twice? Oh well, then that's the
last one you have.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
I guess that's good news.
Speaker 8 (35:53):
I was thinking she was going to have to get
married again, which meaning you'd.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Have a divorce.
Speaker 11 (35:58):
If my husband ever leaves me away with him, I'll.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Never emotionally fulfill you ever.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Know that?
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Oh my gosh, know this, he will never emotionally fulfill you.
That line that has played in my head on a
loop for over a decade. And she was right, But
There is something about Allison's sarcasm and her honesty and
almost a bit of she seems bothered by even having
this ability if for some reason I just really believe her.
(36:28):
Maybe not everything she says or that she's right all
of the time, but I do think she's one of
those those people. I think she's an NGOs Swan where
something something is happening there. Mediums in general just totally
blow up from John Edwards having his own show.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
At a very young age, one young boiler, and he
have special gift.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
This is the other side Stan.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
The psychics very careful.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
This is a trick that I am doing. Okay, what
all I'm gonna do is say a name. I'm gonna Piguman.
You want me to acknowledge Pete or Peter.
Speaker 11 (37:03):
Yes, yes, clapping.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
All I did was like a random name and wait
for somebody in the audience to give a response. Now
that I see that, there's a lone woman crying tells
me Peter was her husband. So I say, Peter was
your husband?
Speaker 16 (37:17):
Yes, yes, yes, my husband Peter standid.
Speaker 11 (37:21):
I didn't do anything.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Now let's see if Stan is different from the real
John Edward as he appears on the Doctor Phil.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Show party anchor.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
There's like two people in the audience that have their
hand raised even though John Edward has his back turn,
and that would be me, like, excuse.
Speaker 16 (37:45):
Me, sir.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
To Teresa Capudo, the Long Island medium who she she
provides like she she does, she does, she does know
the assignment and show up for it because if nothing
else that the parodies of her are incredible and I
sincerely love her hair. That's probably obvious.
Speaker 18 (38:05):
Today I'm at doctor Amen's office and he just recorded
my brain while I was reading someone. Hopefully I'll actually
get some scientific proof that my brain.
Speaker 11 (38:16):
Doesn't work like everyone else's. Can anything happen?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
So let me explain this to you.
Speaker 15 (38:24):
Okay, this is how fast or slow your brain works.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Okay.
Speaker 15 (38:29):
A little bit of yellow right is high activity okay,
and blue is low activity.
Speaker 11 (38:39):
Okay.
Speaker 15 (38:40):
When you're channeling, your brain's just a little bit sleepier.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
People meditate to get back. You're obviously in.
Speaker 15 (38:48):
A different state, so you're really tuned into something. A
Doctor Daniel Aman, I'm a brain imaging expert and I'm
the founder of Amen Clinics. The big thing discovered is
when she's channeling energy in her brain, drops, which means
her own thoughts are sort of tuning out so she
(39:09):
can tune in to the spiritual world.
Speaker 18 (39:14):
So there is a definite difference in my brain when
I'm channeling.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
I would have liked a little bit more of an
explanation of what made her bring difference. I couldn't tell
from the pictures, but now it seems like everything is
all about Tyler Henry and there is something about him
that bothers me so much. I think it's the fact
that he meets people like Bobby Brown and it's like, oh,
(39:40):
I don't know who Whitney Houston is. I watched so
many of his episodes and the only person he recognized
was Sabrina the teenage Witch Melissa Joan Hart. I'm like
a dozens of people with Michael Jackson. He's like, oh no,
and they don't even give him a lie of being amish.
They're just like he was shy and Christian and from
(40:02):
the South or something like that means anything. I'm so sorry. Okay.
This is from a segment they did on Vice, The
Secrets of a Celebrity Psychic. Thousands of people paid around
fifty dollars at a casino in Welsh, Minnesota to see
Tyler Henry, a psychic medium to celebrities speak to their
dead loved ones. Henry got famous for his self proclaimed
(40:26):
powers after he was featured on an episode of Keeping
Up with the Kardashians. From there, he launched his own
show where he's given readings to celebrities like Moby, Lil
John and former NBC News anchor Matt Lower. I'm reading
their description, but I'm gonna stop and playing their segment.
(40:46):
If Matt Lower could trust him, I mean that the
Kardashians and Matt Lower. I'm like, what Morgio and Mope
and Moby Oh and Little John, Little John that back
that Little John actually counts for me. If Little John
(41:08):
was like, this is my psychic I would be like, Okay,
what do you have here?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Have pictures of my mom and dad's wedding.
Speaker 8 (41:17):
My dad passed away seventeen years ago, and I'm hoping
that Tyler will that he'll come through.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
So I just lost my mom, so I would like
to see if something comes through.
Speaker 16 (41:31):
It's just curiosity, like a lot of questions that like
I just want answered and makes you feel very calm
knowing that they're sending you messages.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Please welcome Hollywood mem Tyler Hellry.
Speaker 6 (41:50):
Wow, Hello everybody.
Speaker 10 (41:53):
Wow, I want two of.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
You showed up of the good.
Speaker 17 (42:01):
I know everybody has varying degrees of belief, but kind
I'm excited to share with you. Regardless of beliefs, I'm
truly validating testimonials of life after death.
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Does that sound good?
Speaker 6 (42:13):
It actually sounds a little bit like a John Steinbeck
or Mark Twain's story where someone's like, oh, I'm a
really good preacher sent here by God. But if you
want to hear me, maybe contact your dead loved ones.
That will be fifty dollars. If I could let people
(42:33):
talk to their dead loved ones, I wouldn't charge any
money because they're dead loved ones. Would be saying to me,
if you charge my morning loved one money, I'm gonna
fucking haunt you forever.
Speaker 8 (42:45):
Right?
Speaker 6 (42:47):
Is that the science of ghost hunting?
Speaker 8 (42:50):
All right?
Speaker 6 (42:51):
We're one minute and ten seconds into this clip on
Tyler Henry, and I'll stop screaming.
Speaker 19 (43:02):
These people paid around fifty dollars for a chance to
interact with the dead through twenty three year old psychic
Tyler Henry, better known to his legion of fans.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
As the Hollywood mediums three years when you.
Speaker 19 (43:14):
Started kind of, for lack of a better phrase, professionalizing this.
Speaker 17 (43:18):
Well, that really started when I was around sixteen. I
graduated high school early with the goal of trying to
become a hospice nurse. And while I was enrolling, I
was basically just doing readings on the side for people
through word of mouth. I believe that if someone is legitimate,
they should not have to advertise. You shouldn't have to
have a neon.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
Sign or or a psychic job.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
And you know, my.
Speaker 17 (43:38):
Goal was just to really help people, whether it was
in a public sense.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
We're in a private since the hospice. I just wanted
to share what I knew I could do.
Speaker 17 (43:44):
But there are a lot of issues when it comes
to becoming a public medium, being the public eye, and
I didn't know at that time in my life if.
Speaker 11 (43:50):
I was ready to explore that in what sense.
Speaker 17 (43:53):
I knew all the criticism that I was going to
get when I went public, and I made the decision
ultimately to go public.
Speaker 19 (43:58):
Regardless his career exploded after an appearance on Keeping Up
with the Kardashians.
Speaker 17 (44:05):
I don't know, it's kind of an odd feeling right
when I walked in, it was like there was a
feeling like there was something here.
Speaker 19 (44:11):
Soon after, his own show debuted Communes with the dead
relatives of famous actors and musicians. It's been a huge
rating success because now in its fourth season.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Are you sure? Are you sure we've never met before?
Speaker 17 (44:26):
I'm pretty sure Bob is blown away.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
Hundred and seventy five thousand people.
Speaker 19 (44:32):
So if I do this, tell me how it works,
Like I hop to the top of the list.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
I have to find the Bobby Brown, the Bobby Brown
video when Bob Tyler Henry gives Bobby Brown a reading.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
What are the circumstances?
Speaker 19 (44:49):
Does it have to be in any particular venue?
Speaker 4 (44:52):
I mean, you do it and obviously a big.
Speaker 17 (44:53):
Huge venue place like its usually more of a matter
of time, usually requires about an hour preparation and then
an hour just kind of sit down with the person
and you're going on connection on because information. I'm glad
you said that, actually, because when you look at readings,
I think it's the specifics that come through that are
not researchable, are not googleble and reading celebrities. People tell
me all the time, Look, you're reading a celebrity, You've
can google them. There's so much shit out there about them.
(45:15):
But the thing is is these people know the interviews
they've done, they know the stuff about them that's public information.
They know what's out there in the tabloids. But the
private details are what hitter reading. Home's the private facts,
the private specific stuff.
Speaker 6 (45:26):
Okay, almost everything for memory, just because I've read so
much about this stuff, and there were also so many
things I left out, But I love this kind of
weird stuff and consciousness especially and just the brain and
what our abilities are, what we might be able to do.
(45:47):
If you like hearing more stuff like this, let me know.
I'm definitely gonna do more stuff like this. And when
there's any kind of celebrity crossover, it's it's really it's
really interesting to me. I don't know why Tyler Henry
makes me so mad because he's not a Sylvia Brown,
but that's maybe just not yet. Be careful if you're
(46:09):
going to be a Sylvia Brown, because remember, the person
you're saying is dead could just be trapped in a home.
And I still want if you're listening to this and
you're like, I'm psychic, you should really get that million dollars.
I won't even ask for a cut of it because
I'm going to try and do the test to myself.
But I'll put more of that on Patreon, and thank
(46:34):
you very much.
Speaker 17 (46:38):
I want to say there's either a Susan or a
Susie connection.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
To this cold. When she opened the door, I had
no idea who she was.
Speaker 17 (46:48):
She had an amazing energy and I could tell her
she was really open and she was the experience. Bobby
opened the door, I had no idea who he was.
Speaker 6 (46:56):
Thank you for listening to another episode of Broad's next
Door and for still sticking with me, even though I've
been so bad at keeping a schedule. This last month
in particular has been so hard for me. I really
had a hard time just even even functioning like that
level of sadness in this state of the world. Just
(47:19):
waken a big change, and please follow me on social
media so we can talk about all of that. I
don't think this is something we're gonna, unfortunately be able
to love and light their our way out of. I
think it's going to take a lot more than that,
like literal revolution, so should be an interesting next year.
(47:40):
I'm I'm ready for it, though, I'm ready for everything
to just be different and better and out with the old.
That's my psychic prediction for the next year is that
even though things are so so bad right now, that
with things being this horrible, that our eyes will be
opened to so many more or injustices and will be
(48:02):
able to keep seeing things and make things better instead
of looking away and letting things stay the way that
they are. And even though I think a lot of
direct action will be necessary, a lot needs to happen.
Please don't be hateful with each other. No, please don't
turn away from human suffering. Please don't avoid having hard
(48:23):
conversations with your friends. I know a lot of people
say not to talk about politics, but I don't think
this is politics. I think we just need to have
that basic communication with each other and look out for
each other and not lose our humanity. I love you
all a bunch. If you're feeling scared, if you're feeling sad,
you can always DM me or email me. I will
(48:44):
always try my best to talk to you or point
you in the right direction with the right resources. Thank
you again for listening. I feel so sad. Okay, give bye.
Speaker 15 (49:01):
The novel.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
The novel.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
The novel.
Speaker 7 (49:10):
There a novel
Speaker 4 (49:13):
The novel
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