Weekend Rewind: The Craft & 90s Movie Witches

Grab your black cat and your VCR as we gain a broader understanding of 90’s movie witches from The Witches,The Craft, Teen Witch, Double Double Toil and Trouble, Hocus Pocus, Sabrina The Teenage Witch, The Crucible, Eve’s Bayou, Halloweentown, to The Blair Witch Project
why were witches so popular in the 90’s and why do they still hold a special place in our hearts and in our covens? 

(Originally released October 2023)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
It all again with your ancestor Maria. She was a
witch first in our family.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Magic wand will I only have one?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
You'll have to share.

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Joy, have a live.

Speaker 5 (00:22):
I have to be a witch, I had to be immortal,
I have to be a teenager, and I have to
be a girl, all at the same time.

Speaker 6 (00:29):
Hello, neighbors, lovers, friends and weirdos. I'm Danielli Scrima, and
you're listening to Broad's next Door. Grab your black cat
and turn on your VCR, because today, with the help
of some movie trailers, we're going back to the nineteen
nineties for a light retrospective on some of our favorite

(00:50):
movie witches. Why we loved some of them, I will spell,
why we feared some of themch's time plopping to kill
children's talking to Richardshild like a hunter, and why we
wanted to be some of them.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Are you broads a little old to be trick or treating?

Speaker 6 (01:15):
I suppose I am too old to be trigger treating now.
But in my heyday of trigger treating, which was the
nineteen nineties, from age five to fourteen, I think those
were my halloweens. I dressed up as a witch almost
every year. I had different variations to my witch costumes.
Sometimes I was a witch princess, a witch fairy, I

(01:38):
was a witch vampire ones. But I really liked integrating
the witch theme. And I always always was really waiting
for someone, an aunt, foreign relative, someone to manifest themselves
into my room and be like, you two are a
witch and have special powers. That didn't exactly happen, but

(01:58):
it did kind of happen. Through watch movies really did
give me a sense that I too had some secret power.
And now I am a woman of many rituals. I
am also a woman who loves a good rewatch, and
I did several of them while making this episode. Some
movies were cheesier than I remembered, some were scarier. All

(02:20):
of them were very nineties and do hold a special
place in my heart. So I want to share some
of them with you today. If I forget one of
your favorite nineties which movies, let me know, maybe we
can talk about it. I haven't been in a coven
since seventh grade, so maybe we could start one of those.
Though I think I'm more like a solo practicing, which

(02:43):
this isn't going to be like a total deep dive.
I just want to go through and kind of have
a light, fun little episode. Are you dressing up this year?
I have a couple costumes. I'm gonna bust out. Got
a new peg Bundy Wig. Even though I dressed up
as her in two thousand and nine. I don't think

(03:05):
I'm going to go up to any Halloween parties, but
I would like to pass out some candy to kids,
and I hope to see some of them dressed up
as some of the witches.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
We're going to talk about.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
The Oxford history of witchcraft and magic says of witches
on screen in films. The two main themes are those
of the domestication of the female witch and her self control.
Whereas gender issues have been present from the start, the
witch's internal struggle between good and evil only appeared in
the nineteen nineties. But to truly understand what made all

(03:36):
this nineties witch stuff so special, we're going to need
to rewind the tape a little bit and do some
film witch history. During this silent era the eighteen nineties
to the nineteen twenties, witches did make early appearances in
silent films. They were often depicted as mysterious and malevolent figures.
Notable Examples include hawksn nineteen twenty two, a Danish Swedish

(03:59):
documentary style film that explored the historical perception of witchcraft.

Speaker 7 (04:03):
One of the.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
Earliest on screen depictions of witches is from The Wizard
of Oz, where we are introduced to the green faced,
broomstick riding wicked Witch of the West, and then her
counter Glinda, the Goodwitch, who.

Speaker 7 (04:19):
Just kind of like travels in a ball of light.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Really good good.

Speaker 8 (04:23):
Agree.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
Then, with the introduction of television, if witches we're going
to be on television, they were going to be family
friendly because families tended to watch television together. So you
get characters like Samantha from Bewitch.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Okay, if you're a witch, where's your black hat and room?
And how come you're up when it isn't even Halloween?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
That was right, you're prejudice.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
In the Archie comics, you also have the character of
Sabrinus Folman, who will reappear in the nineties. And having
witches like this left some more room in the story
besides the usual killing of children or causing all of
the crops in the village to fail. Her depictions gradually
go from wicked to whimsical. And then they'll go back again.

(05:07):
The nineteen sixties and seventies saw resurgence of interest in witches,
largely influenced by the counterculture and the feminist movements. Films
like Bell Book and Candle depicted witches and more complex
and sympathize. But between the seventies and the nineties, these
covens must be growing in numbers. The eighties are almost
absent of witches, and this kept leaving me with the

(05:28):
same question, why were there so many witch movies in
the nineties. They were one thing throughout the decade that
completely held up even as grunge was replaced with boy
bands and pop princesses.

Speaker 7 (05:41):
Witches were still there and they were weird as ever.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
I really wanted to try and figure this out why
there were so many witch movies in the nineties, especially
because this is on like the tail end of the
whole satanic panic thing. And I did learn that in
the nineteen eighties they once again really had to re
brand how witches were done from the complete horror of

(06:05):
the seventies like Dario Argento and things, just like much
more graphic witch portrayals, lots of witch hunts and evil witches,
and so many good films from that time, but the
tone really really ships in the eighties.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
There's actually not a lot.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Of witch movies in the eighties at all. As far
as like mainstream theatrical releases go. Things do start to
change in the mid eighties, and then they really change
in nineteen eighty seven with the Witches of Eastwick.

Speaker 9 (06:37):
In the quiet town of Eastwick where nothing ever changes,
three beautiful women are about to discover.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Powers they never dreamed they had. Who should we be
looking for? You should be really handsome? No, the men
of their dreams? Is here dame last week? To stay
for a spell? Who are your gesture? Average devil? The
Witches of east Wick? Devil east Wich? Here were the devil?

(07:06):
Would you come to east Wind?

Speaker 6 (07:07):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Are you're going to seduce me too?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Were stay? Or did he do it to it?

Speaker 10 (07:16):
Jack Nicholson and Sharer, Susan surrendm Michelle Fifer, The Witches
of east Wick, Oh, gus Pocus.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
And I also do want to give a quick shout
out to the nineteen eighty nine Kiki's Delivery service.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
That's the boom you're going to be leaving on.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yep. I just made it this morning all by myself.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Honey, it's too small to be really safe.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
I'd rather you look my broom.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
I know it better.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
But right out the gate with nineteen ninety, things are
going to change. And what causes this? Was it a
rebellion against the norm, a desire for the supernatural, that
early nineties second wave feminism. Was it a blend of
comedy and fantasy. It's probably a combination of all of

(08:03):
these things. But let's start in nineteen ninety with a
movie that is shockingly terrifying for being a children's movie,
and that is the nineteen ninety film The Witches, starring
Angelica Houston as the Grand High Witch who is going
to turn all of the children in England into mice,
eventually the world probably, but starting with England.

Speaker 10 (08:26):
From the incredible imagination of Jim Henson and director Nicholas.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Wild becomes up fascinating and the adventure so legs for.

Speaker 10 (08:33):
When a little boy accidentally stumbles into their secret world,
he finds they've got a lot more power than he
ever imagines.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
Realm it's met still can't believe they turned that kid
into a mouse.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
Kidney was not okay, they turned.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Me into a mouse. Oh, who's the green Nolwitch?

Speaker 11 (08:52):
Jointly on his remarkable journk now the witches all out
his tail and he will story around very evil speak
past every day get finally setting the traveler that will
save the world from the witches n.

Speaker 12 (09:11):
Stop them.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
The Witches is an adaptation of the nineteen eighty three
Rolled Doll book and this was Jim Henson's last project
before he died of a pneumonia, which is so fucking sad,
Doll Diva that he was didn't like the ending because
in the book, the kid stays a mouse, he doesn't
get turned back into human, and roll Doll's like, well,
what's so bad about being a mouse? Mice are happy.

(09:34):
In the movie version, they did make two endings and
tested it for audiences, and of course audiences wanted him
to be a boy again. But that movie is still
scary when they take their faces off. I mean, that's
how I feel when I do my take my makeup
of sometimes. That year, we also have Teen Witch, which
will set the tone for a lot of movies to

(09:56):
come later.

Speaker 7 (09:57):
But this is this is a weird one.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
I always forget how weird it is until I watch
it because it's like partially a musical, but it's not
like it's a musical universe. Like at one point she
does use one spell for like one of the worst
rap battles in all time. But there's other points where
people are bursting out in song that I don't only understand.
And that tells us the tale of Louise Miller, who's

(10:21):
just trying, just trying to be popular high school.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
It's supposed to be the time of your life. How
does she do that? James?

Speaker 9 (10:28):
But for Louise Miller, high school was a living hell.
From her first secret love, her first line date, No,
but it was to day you.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
Because you're a dog.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Baby Brand's cousin Ready.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
My life is a walking, talking tragedy.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
I wish you would. But just when nothing more could
possibly go wrong one of us.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
If I had to tell have anyone tell me I
was a witch, it would definitely be Zelda Rubinstein of
Poltergeist fame.

Speaker 9 (11:04):
Something wonderful went right Now She's possessed with special powers
that are.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Simply be witchy.

Speaker 9 (11:12):
She could make her worst teacher hut I will be
and her best friend cool.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I don't really give about.

Speaker 13 (11:25):
You.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
The most popular girl you have the power to make
anything you want.

Speaker 7 (11:35):
Make Louise.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
You can't make him love You don't listen to Zelda Rubinstein.
She said this house is clean, and it wasn't clean.

Speaker 7 (11:44):
She had to come back.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
He's gonna become your love.

Speaker 9 (11:52):
Everybody dreams, but Louise's dreams all come true.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
As tetragrammaton yos Ishner's authitos What.

Speaker 14 (12:04):
New U two song dem Witch Women is a magical feeling.

Speaker 6 (12:10):
I would like to give a shout out and an
honorable mention to the nineteen ninety three made for TV
Olsen's film movie Double Double Toil in Trouble that also
has a good Witch and a bad Witch plot. All
the Olsen movies were absolutely unhinged.

Speaker 7 (12:26):
Is this one of the ones?

Speaker 6 (12:27):
No, this is not one where they could solve any
crime by dinner time. I think this is before when
they're even younger.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
George and I have come to say goodbye, going to
get married tonight.

Speaker 9 (12:39):
It's a Halloween body for the Entiles Family Ary Festival.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Are sites are real. Ashley and Mary Kittles.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
I imagine that that's Mary Kate saying get a life,
because for one time Ashley's name was billed before hers Shack.

Speaker 9 (12:58):
Taylor and Clorius Leech but in Double Double Toilet Problem
to Night.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
This is a recap from Rob Anderson's TikTok on Double
Double Toile in Trouble.

Speaker 14 (13:12):
I am watching every single Mary Kay Nashly movie. Just
finished the Halloween one. Please listen to what happens in it.
So the plot of any Mary Kay national movie is
that they are twins, and other stuff might happen too,
But they're twins.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Okay.

Speaker 14 (13:25):
The parents are dead broke and they're gonna lose their house,
so they go to Aunt Agatha, who's.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Loaded to get money.

Speaker 14 (13:30):
Agatha's like, uh no, Like you chose to have kids,
that's your problem. Agatha used to be a twin until
she locked the good sister up in a mirror using
a moonstone, and the only people that could break the
spell are twins. So these girls are like, let's fucking
do it. So the girls bribe two kids on Halloween
to wear their costumes. The parents don't have a clue, like,

(13:51):
they don't even clock it, but I think we need
to talk about this costume.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Like, girl, what is this?

Speaker 14 (13:56):
Then the girls become friends with this fake British homeless
grip sir, but then he just joins the party. He
heard two six year old girls talk about a magic mirror,
and he's like, well, I have nothing else to do.
But the girls are constantly calling him above. He says, oh,
one day I'll have money, and then one of them
says this, I'm trying work. So they get the moonstone
from Agatha. The girls have to attend a Satanic ritual

(14:18):
where they pretend to be the little Satanists. Agatha eventually
catches the girls. The twins are unseerious, like nothing faces
these girls. Agatha's like, no, I'm literally gonna kill you.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
The girls are like, get a life.

Speaker 14 (14:31):
They eventually use their twin powers to save the good Sister,
but then Agatha falls into the mirror and the girls
break it because they're savage, and the good Sisters like,
I'm gonna give you all the money you need for
that house. Like unless they had a joint bank account,
I don't think money works that way. Babe, there gonna
beans for a surprise.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'll do it, but you have to promise to it.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Everyone goto and through mister a back into a person.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
All right, I promised, cross your heart, shake your mind
and me if you've got it stick they your bottom.
Just hand it over, I said, carry Jill first handed over.

Speaker 6 (15:04):
You go fair, You'll go, You go fair, You'll go.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Don't put them most still down here on the floor.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
The double double toile in Trouble is not the Witch
movie of nineteen ninety three, As you know, the great
witch movie of nineteen ninety three is hocus Pocus, directed
by Kenny Ortega and starring Bette Midler, Sarah Jessica Parker,
and Kathy Najimi as the Sanderson sisters who are accidentally
resurrected in modern day Salem after a virgin lights a candle.

(15:36):
This is also the first time the word virgin is
used in a Disney film. I think it left a
lot of us asking what's a virgin? I was eight
when that movie came out, but oh, I loved it.
My mom asked me if she could call me Danny
after we watched this, and I was like, absolutely not.

Speaker 7 (15:52):
So okay.

Speaker 6 (15:52):
So the characters in hocus Pocus, it's Halloween night. The
sisters are resurrected. Older brother Max is making his younger
sister Danny outrigger treating and they run into Alice and
the girl that he has a crush on, and then
they're like all on this adventure with a talking cat.
So this had like everything I wanted because the only
thing I liked more than witches and still like more

(16:14):
than a witch story is.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
A people solving a mystery story. So this had both the.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Bones an alchimists.

Speaker 13 (16:23):
Back in sixteen ninety three, the people of Salem, Massachusetts,
which is thought they got rid of a senders and
sisters for good.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Three hundred years later, she's Halloween and they're back.

Speaker 15 (16:38):
Wow, she's talking about three inch and Haggs versus the
twentieth century.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Now they're digging up old friends. She'd running a book
looking for the one thing they missed most. Steve, only
one boy the power to stop them. Prepare to tie King.
You don't pause before all Salem falls under their.

Speaker 10 (17:10):
Present.

Speaker 13 (17:13):
Sarah, Jessica Parker, and Kathy the Genius hope this focus.
They love to paw and it shows.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
No screaming. I was researching this one. I found this
just so funny.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
But it said that Bett Midler's performances were so good
that everyone else would just.

Speaker 7 (17:36):
Stop on set and break into applause.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
So good for her talents.

Speaker 16 (17:42):
And ri sense of humor, and she was the perfect
choice to star in the.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
New movie hocus Pocus.

Speaker 16 (17:47):
Recently, I talked with Bet about her latest role as
a wicked witch named Winnie.

Speaker 10 (17:53):
Goodbye.

Speaker 7 (17:56):
She's very, very funny, and I could play her. I'd
be happy playing her for the rest of my life.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
She gets to do everything.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
You know, what kind of witch is she?

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well, she's completely demented, she's she's she could be.

Speaker 12 (18:07):
Quite evil, but most of the time she's very funny.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
Of course she doesn't know how funny she is, but
she can be quite wicked.

Speaker 16 (18:13):
I was gonna say she is one nest and she's
very nast and she's so funny. That a stretch, but
some people say it wasn't. However, I I think I'm
a very kind person. I just and Kenny Artaga was
the direct ormer. Kenny Artaga is a dancer.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
You start out as a dancer. So when you put
the three of us.

Speaker 16 (18:32):
Together, Sarah, Jessica Parker and Captain Jemie.

Speaker 12 (18:35):
And myself, when you put the three of us together,
she wanted us to be able to act like a trio.
And it was the first time that I'd ever been
a real part of a trio, you know, an acting trio,
and I just thought it.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Was so much fun.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
It didn't do that well like in theaters. I think
that's because it had a summer release. But once it
hit Blockbuster and it got in the hands of children
like instant Call Classic. Before Sabrina the Teenage Witch gets
its television series, it's made into a nineteen ninety six film.

Speaker 17 (19:11):
Entertainment is about to present Melissa Joan Hart, the star
of Nickelodeon's long running hit series Clarissa, explains it all
in her motion picture debut, It's kind of your dream
Sabrina seems like a typical teenager who's about to turn sixteen.
But Sabrina is no ordinary gurum.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
Something strange happened last night, no why, and this.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Is no ordinary birthday to be opened. She is about
to receive the biggest surprise of her life. Witch, a witch,
this is nuts.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
We'll be here to help you as you learn to
use your powers.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
The powers of course there that's the point of being
a witch. If you can't geomantic, what do you think
this means?

Speaker 6 (20:04):
Not all of the witches of the nineties were fun.
In nineteen ninety six, we Get the Crucible based off
of Arthur Miller's worst play. We're in Salem, Massachusetts. There's
like fourteen different women named Sarah. They're all insane, and
then there's poor Tittaba getting wrapped up in this nonsense.
Winona Ryder and Daniel day Lewis were praised for their performances,

(20:27):
even though when Noda basically acts like her character and
girl interrupted but just like with some kind of New
England accent. Even the trailers depressing. I mean, I guess
the Salem witch trials were depressing. Fun fact, no witches
were burned in the Salem witch Trials. They were all
hanged or drowned. Burning was a more European thing. Pilgrims

(20:50):
didn't have that kind of flavor. Were they still Pilgrims?
They were to me, Aunt Sean, give me.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
A soft word you.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
I think of you from time to time, but I
will pup my hand before I reach for you again.
I never touched.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I know you, John Proctor, you love me, whatever city
it is, you love me.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yet what is the heart that I must possess? High
wygaves my wife, it will be the end of you.

Speaker 11 (21:15):
I am but God's swinger.

Speaker 7 (21:16):
John she would condemn Elizabeth, she would be contented.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Eigil once dead, John, you know it. There is no
desire to undermine these investigations. I I'm only to save
my innocent wife, Daniel day lewis my wife to vengeance
a rider. I never dreamed any of this field. I
wanted you whistle, Paul Schofield. Now we shall touch the
bottle of this swamp. Joan Howett. Girl is murdered. She

(21:44):
must be ripped out of the world. It's a crucible.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
She made me do it, she made pretty do it.
I'm not I'm not loving any of this.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
If I want to see the Crucible, well I will
see it the way it's meant to be seen in
a high school auditorium. With the Crucible and Sabrina. Those
are like the double double toil in Trouble of nineteen
ninety six, because in May of nineteen ninety six, the
Craft is released.

Speaker 18 (22:16):
I drink of my sisters, and I ask for the
ability to not hit those who hate me, especially racist
pieces of bleach Bondeit like Grealissy, I drink.

Speaker 11 (22:26):
Of my sisters, and I ask to love myself more
and to allow myself to.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Be loved more by others, especially Chris. I know it's basatic, Definitely,
the better.

Speaker 18 (22:41):
I drink of my sisters and I take it to myself,
the power to be beautiful outside as well as in.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
I drink of my sisters and I take into myself
or the power of mane, That's all.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
I have blessed.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
Being directed by Andrew Fleming, this is a true coming
of age story with a Witchcraft twist. Four high school
girls played by Robin Tunney, Ferujah Balk, Nev Campbell, and
Rachel True for mccoven and every teenage girl, or at

(23:21):
least everyone I knew.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
We all wanted to form mccoven too. We were all
chanting the Nomo, doing.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
Light as a feather, stiff as bored. Oh some of
the spells I cast during that time, I wonder. The
Craft also explored a lot of deeper themes like sexual
assault and racism, extreme bullying. Nev Campbell's character has those
really bad stars, so you get to relate to these
characters and see why they are going to go down

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these paths. And it's also the classic story of witches
getting powers and abusing those powers and then seeing the consequences.
The film hired real life life occultist Pat Devin as
a consultant during the making of the film, and it's
said that some weird stuff happened. Robin Tunney, who is
the lead in the film, claimed to have had so

(24:12):
many strange occurrences happening, including that her hair turned white
like I don't think, like fully white, like in the
scene where they put their hands over their eyes and
their hair changes color, which we all wish we had
that power. But she attributed this to the energy and
intensity of the shoot, so that's that's creepy. Originally, I
did want to do a whole episode just on The Craft,

(24:35):
but I'm going to put that up on Patreon because
there were so many other nineties Witch movies that I
wanted to talk about too. But if you want to
hear even more about The Craft, I'm going to put
up a couple videos and just really break it down.
I asked everyone on Instagram if they remembered their first
time watching it, and some people.

Speaker 7 (24:52):
Shared really cool stories, and not.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Just my elder millennials and young gen xers, but people
who saw the movie later on to the other kids.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
At Saint Bernard Academy.

Speaker 14 (25:05):
They were the girls who didn't belong.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Whatever you do, stand away from them. Why there? But
after years of being on the outside, why'd you? I
don't want to go out with you again? Please stop bagging.
It's pathetic. Four girls are about to discover the dark side.
You ever heard of a vocalist spirit. We can make

(25:28):
things happen.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
I mean, this is it, this is real.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Columbia Pictures welcomes you, Witch you out ticket.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
Her spell is working.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Since the Craft world, watch out for those wirdows.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
This is an article from Vulture. They're profound and during
Legacy of the Craft by Angelica Jade Boston. The first
picture that comes to mind of The Craft is of
its four main cast members leaning with vulgar elegance against
a brightly colored murals somewhere in Los Angeles. Their school
uniforms are a bit rumpled, some hidden by dark oversized

(26:06):
jackets or sweaters knotted at the waist. Three of the
young women, played by Robin Tunney, Rachel True, and Nev Campbell,
stared dead into the camera. Their expressions are brimming with
defiance and angers. If they're challenging you to a confrontation.
Nancy downs, though played with equal parts blistering anger and
touching vulnerability of by Refrusia. Bulk is staring to the

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side as if something has caught her attention, her eyes
trained on some distant horizon we aren't privy to. Her
face is solemn and a bit yearning, revealing the tenderness
that the character hides underneath her stylized aggression. This single
picture represents all the reasons why The Craft has such
a fierce hold on the generation of young girls who
discovered it in conversation with peers, where it candle ats

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slumber parties in the nineteen nineties, the brand of Edalus
and Bravado it displays, and its sense of sisterhood. Entertainment
weeklies or history of the film. Tony, who plays Sarah Bailey,
touched on its legacy. Somehow it still speaks to everybody's
inner teenage girl. I went to a bachelorette party where
everybody had to bring their guilty pressure movies, and Natalie

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Portman brought The Craft. When the film came out, the
reviews were middling at best. It was described as campy,
its imagination limited. But since The Craft was released in
nineteen ninety six, it has become a clult classic, spawning
fan art, fan fiction, et sea merchandise, and cosplay. Each
girl is electrified by the possibilities magic can bring, freeing

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them from a nexus of thorny issues that plug their adolescence, racism, poverty,
physical scars, emotional wounds they've yet to heal from. For
a brief moment in time, they find sanctuary in each
other's presences, until Nancy's quest for power grows uncontrollable, warping
the ones precious sisterly bonds they shared and sending them
tumbling down a dangerous path. The Craft earned a generation

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of devoted fans because of how it charged the french
between these four girls, its tentative beginnings, the joys of
its strength, and its ultimate downfall, and weighs the ring
true for any young woman who has had a sisterly
connection grow painfully toxic. One of its most memorable scenes
in this regard is at a sleepover at Bonnie's home.
It effortlessly communicates the bliss that comes from the more

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simple yet fiercely important friendships, the bloom between young girls
in high school as they eat candy, smoke, and make
lude jokes. They grant the film its authenticity. Sarah suggests
a game that's actually more of a ritual. Rochelle lays
down while her friend's chant light as a feather, stiff
as a board, their fingers tucked underneath her as they
close their eyes in concentration. When they opened her eyes

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to see she's levitating, their faces move from shot to
to light as they realize the power that comes when
they join together. The scene that follows is a montage
of the girls as they hit its apex with a
classic teen bolm trope, the slow motion walk through the school.
Their faces are exuberant, bright with empowerment, their transfered This
is the peak of their sisterly bond before things go

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to rot. It's the way the film interrogates how such
close connections form between teenage girls and then easily dissolve
under the weight of the world that grants the craft
its power. Witchcraft is more than mere teenage rebellion. For
these young girls. It means to attain what at first
glance appears unattainable. Power, control, autonomy, the ability to live

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beyond the various oppressive forces that govern their lives. For
many girls, Whiches are our first brush with any depiction
of feminism and the price women pay in searching for
control over our lives. Whether they are unhinged old women
cackling into the night sky or alluring vixens whiches teach
us the glory and risk that comes with the power
for a woman.

Speaker 7 (29:44):
They give a voice to the darker desires you.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
Too young to name, and the anger swelling in your
chest when the people in your orbit assume you lack
the gritten intelligence necessary to make your desires a reality.
Each of the girls is weighed down by the expectations
that prejudices the world beyond their coven burdens them with
particularly the three original members of the coven. As the
only black girl at the school, Rochelle faces racism, Bonnie

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struggles with a heavily scarred body that the others either
avoid looking at her teaser. For Nancy navigates being poor,
an obvious spat of depression, and having no allies beyond
the member of the coven she had an important hand
in forming, but Sarah's presence disrupts the delicate balance of
the coven. Her status as a natural witch who leans
toward the light and aids the other girls makes Nancy

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feel discarded. She becomes power hungry and turns Sarah into
her target. It's a brutal but understandable turn that Bonnie
and Rachelle easily fall into step with her, despite the
kindest Sarah has shown them. May be cruel, but young
girls typically don't get access to the sort of joy
that Nancy offers them, where rules feel inconsequential. They can't

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gloriously fuck up the way young men do and survive unscathed.
There is no female equivalent of that. Troublesome boys will
be boys. Of course, Nancy in the darkness and the
others fall under its sway. It's the first time they
felt any.

Speaker 7 (31:04):
Sort of liberation.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
They aren't looking for reason, or safety or kindness. They
want freedom. I fell for Nancy because she mirrored my
own adolescent struggles. She as poor, lonely as hell, and
paranoid that what friendship she did have would be taken
from her by someone more powerful and easier to love.
Nancy's greatest mistake isn't the darkness that overtakes her, but
that she refuses to play by the rules society is

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laid out for her. Her stepfather is an abusive creep,
her mom is too self involved to notice Nancy's christ
for help. Everyone else is too afraid of Nancy to
understand her, and it isn't like she'd let them close
enough anyway. It's Balk's performance that grants this story. It's potency.
She's tender yet terrifying, intense yet resolutely focused on exploring

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the joys that have mostly been withheld from her. The
best showcase for her skills comes when Nancy decides to
exact revenge on Chris for how callously he treated her
in its attempt to rape Sarah. But like how she
approaches everything in life, she goes too far. After Chris
rebuffs her attempts at seduction, pushing her off the bed,
she curls into herself, looking like a wounded animal until

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the spark of realization crosses her face. She glamours herself
to look like Sarah, and he's easily won over. There's
something delightly unhinged about Nancy as the scene tips into horror,
Her pointy toed black boots scraping against the floor, her
body moving with unnatural grace, her face split by a
Cheshire grin communicates just how much vengeance she's capable of.

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As she sends Chris hurtling to his death from a window.
That Nancy ends up crazed and strapped to a bed
in a mental institution is as painful reminder that for
women like her who refuse to fit any mold, if
feminine's society affords power, is an illusion and second chances
are in a possibility that Nancy's face is such a prosaic,
retrograde handling of a mentally ill intensely a chinoclastic woman's

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narrative undercomes the compassion of the rest of the film.
I like to imagine a different ending, one in which
the coven stays together and Nancy finds hope within her
sisterhood and a better use for her ability. Still, the
film remains memorable for moments like the one where the
young girls perform their beachside ritual during a thunderstorm, the
cameras spinning in dizzy, Nick circles their arms outstretched. It

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isn't merely supernatural prowess. They're reaching their arms toward. These girls,
each in their own way, is calling out for something
women learn early and off and is hard to attain
power to control your own life. And for a brief
glimmering moment. The Craft depicts the wonder and the joy
that comes with such autonomy, which isn't only possible but

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worth the risk.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
If I was as pathetic as you are, I would
have killed myself ages ago.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
You should get on with it.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
I didn't like the ending of the Craft either, especially
when I rewatch it.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
You do feel bad for Nancy.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Maybe that's just being an adult, like, oh, poor little
teenage girl. I was a lot as a teenager, but
definitely saw myself as a Sarah because I could like
make the lights go out with my hysteria, and I
was like, oh, that's natural in my light, instead of
being like, hmm, bitch maybe or Nancy.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
I don't know. I didn't even didn't even think of it.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
Has anyone seen the Craft knockoff movie called The Little Witches,
also a film I rented for Blockbuster much more like
Showtime nineties porn style, though at least that's how my
twelve year old brain processed it. I'm assuming that means
like someone had sex. I feel like there was like
group sex in that Little Witches.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
Same thing. They form a coven and it all goes awry.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
I want to play part of the ending of the
Craft because I feel like it is a bit bittersweet.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
I wish they all made up. I mean they didn't.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Did they really try and kill Sarah? Like, yeah, she
thought her dad was dead for a little bit and snakes,
but like it was just pretend. So I wish they
could have had like forgiveness instead of her like making
a tree fall down Sarah.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Hi, Sarah, how are you good? Then again? I can
sleep at night?

Speaker 6 (35:12):
So are you?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
We want to apologize. We feel really bad about trying
to kill me.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, honestly, we never thought it would go that far.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
And you know that thing on TV about the plane
crash was the glamor. I think it was a practical joke,
funny Sarah.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Wait, we were just wondering do you still have any powers?

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Because we don't.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
So if you ever want to just hang out and
chant or call the corners, maybe I'll do.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
Brest until I cut to Nancy in the asylum, I
can cry. I'm poor. Nance now. I feel like some
people are gonna say this it doesn't count as a
Witchcraft movie, but I think it does. And that's the

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nineteen ninety seven film Eves by You. So we have
voodoo instead of just straight witchcraft, but the getting the
same results.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
And it's also a really great story.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
I love the mother and daughter story and just then
being mad at your dad and the complicated relationships, and
also what women take and are willing to put up with.

Speaker 7 (36:28):
And then what that manifests into.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Memory is a selection of images, some of Lucia, others
printed indelibly on the brain.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
You love your daughter, baby, you know I do. That's
all I need. Your mama.

Speaker 17 (36:42):
Your mama is.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
The most beautiful woman.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I have met.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
And I always love that.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
Classic trope of seeing your dad cheating and your mom.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Danny is marou It is his on her.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
She blames me for not making you happier. She thinks
I'm driving you away. She's a child. Where's Daddy? He's
never home. He's supposed to be home sometime. Which one
of your patients. You're going to see Louis going outside play.
When I first met.

Speaker 11 (37:15):
Louis and I said to myself, he's a man who
can fix things.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
And to find out he's just a man.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Have you told anyone, because if you tell it, I'm
gonna kill you.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
How good for hurting you? I put his hair inside
the mouth.

Speaker 13 (37:31):
Of a snake.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
You can't kill people with Vodou.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
That girl, you speak to my wife again, I will
kill you.

Speaker 15 (37:40):
Something's so better left to him said, I need you
a dull old woman, No tell my fortune.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
I don't need no cat pums to tell you a fortune.

Speaker 15 (37:48):
Moselle Baptiste, you are a curse, a black widowed.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Next man marries you as a dead man like the other.
Always be that way so much.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
I don't want to give the full plot of eaves
by You because I feel like it's one a lot
of people missed out on. So if you did watch
it and let me know, do you think this counts
as a nineties Witchcraft movie? This is a movie I
pretty much missed out on when it was airing. And
that's Halloween Town. This was actually filmed near where I
live in Oregon, in Saint Helen's, Oregon, and I guess

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every year they transformed the town into Halloween Town again.

Speaker 8 (38:30):
But still we are getting into the Halloween spirit this morning,
with a little help from the town of Saint Helen's.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
The downtown really does go all out.

Speaker 14 (38:37):
Devin Haskins did not want to miss it.

Speaker 16 (38:39):
He's there live at Halloween Town this morning Hey, Devin, Hey,
good morning guys.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Yeah, nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
The city of Saint Helens the backdrop, the setting, the
filming location for that Disney Channel movie Halloween Town. Well,
in honor and celebration of that movie, they throw an
annual celebration called the Spirit of Halloween Town and it
has a queen, so we're going to bring in her
Royal highness.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
They call her Queen Candle.

Speaker 9 (39:04):
Is that right?

Speaker 6 (39:05):
That's right, my dear, Welcome to Halloween Town.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
It's so wonderful to see you. Like this is too much?

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Do I bound?

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Do I kiss the hand?

Speaker 6 (39:16):
My goodness?

Speaker 10 (39:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (39:17):
The king outrageous?

Speaker 10 (39:19):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (39:19):
What is like this all about?

Speaker 6 (39:21):
This surprised me because I after people dressed like elves
and a series of.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Thirty and come check him out here through the month
of October.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
Sority, I'm not going to check this out.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Dance.

Speaker 6 (39:36):
Thank you kg W News for a lot of people
younger than me talk about this film. But this came
out two years after the Craft. It did come out
when I was thirteen, like the girl in the movie,
but I was a very different thirteen by then. I
was like, I want a boyfriend and to do drugs,
not go to a cute town I want, and so.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Probably does a belonger.

Speaker 15 (39:59):
Dylan thinks he's a mucinating anyway, I'll be all right
by myself.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Marnie, you're thirteen, but all the.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Other witches get to do all kinds of stuff when
they're thirteen.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Just because your grandmother said that you're a witch doesn't
make you one.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
She didn't have to tell me.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I could feel it.

Speaker 12 (40:14):
I am a witch, right right, So it's.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
True I am a witch. Well, how come I never
knew all this weird stuff's been happening to Sophie?

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Did that stuff happen to me?

Speaker 6 (40:23):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yes, you showed signs of having the powers, and I
hit them from you, just.

Speaker 17 (40:27):
Like I am doing with Sophie.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
And I did it for you because this is not
your world your father was.

Speaker 7 (40:32):
That is the world that we live in.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Period.

Speaker 7 (40:34):
Look, if you want to give up.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Your roots, that's fine, but I don't, and that's not
right for you to try to make. Look Graham's Greens
the Wiener Dude.

Speaker 6 (40:43):
In nineteen ninety eight, we get what is truly a
witch from com and that is practical magic directed by
Griffin Done Wow. Griffin Dunn directed Practical Magic. That's Joan
Didion's nephew. I didn't know that, even though I have
his name.

Speaker 7 (41:00):
In my notes.

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Starring Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman as the Owen Sisters,
It's a really fun movie.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
It's sad too. What makes Practical Magic.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
Stand out, I think so much is that they're strong,
independent women, these two girls being raised by their aunt
supremeness Spelman style, but they also have this cursed dynamic
happening and finding true love. And I love the whole
thing of breaking ancestral curses. I feel like that theme

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really transcends beyond witchcraft and beyond curses of just breaking family.

Speaker 7 (41:39):
Habits, and they achieve that.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
By the end of this film, the Owen Sisters are
two beautiful witches and with one wicked problem, the worst
taste in men.

Speaker 17 (41:54):
Any man they fall for falls victim to a deadly curse.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Any man wins the heart of an Owen's woman is
found to end up six.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Feet on that and as hard as they try, oh
my god, they can't keep their loves like I'm never
going to see you again. It was an accident.

Speaker 13 (42:12):
It was great.

Speaker 17 (42:13):
It wasn't wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
No, I detective, very femal, close sort of way. Yeah,
he's looking for answers. Did you or your sister kill
King Ael? Oh?

Speaker 9 (42:25):
Yeah, but the only type of magic you just look,
I remembered if the head that can't break the evil spell,
what you teach.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Is the magic of two people. Magic is just who
discover the power.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
Magic gives us the origin of the curse.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
But no, I don't think it was either of those reasons.

Speaker 7 (42:53):
They feared her because she had a gift.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Of power that has been passed on to you children.
She had the gift of magic, and it was this
very gift that saved her life. She was banished to
this very island, with her unborn child growing inside her belly.
She waited for her lover to rescue her, but he

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never came.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
No one came.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
In a moment of despair, she cast a spell upon
herself that she would never again find the agony of love.
But as her bitterness grew, the spell turned into a curse,
a curse on any man who dared love an Owens woman.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
So is that why daddy died? A curse? Yes, my darling,
your mother knew.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
She heard the beetle ticking for your father's death. All
day long, she knew that when you hear the sound
of the death watch beetle, the man you love is
doomed to die.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
But that's how you came to live with us. We
tucked you into our lives. Then we've raised you the
best way we know how.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
In this house we have chocolate kank for breakfast, and
we never bother with some little things like bedtime.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
But with the sweets comes the sounur.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
So when you find yourself the center of attention, Hi,
you want to play.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
It's not that they hate you, it is that, well,
we're different.

Speaker 6 (44:27):
This is another film where they had an advisor, but
it didn't turn out well. Real life, which and author
Francesca di Grandi's was the consultant during the making of
Practic Tocal Magic. She was consulted to ensure the film's
depiction of witchcraft and pagan practices was accurate and respectful.
This added an attention of detail to the film, but

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she apparently hated it and worked a little magic of
her own. The film has a great soundtrack with Face
Hill's This Kiss, Joni Mitchell's A Case of You, two
original Stevie Nick songs in an interview with Vanity Fair
director Griffin Dunn said, it's something I will talk about now,
but at the time I would sort of deny. I

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didn't want the vibe as long as the line from
the movie that Aiden has goes. I didn't want to
give the curse any strength, not that I believe in it,
but if you believe in it, you're giving it strength.
I hired a witch consulting to get the details of
the ceremony.

Speaker 7 (45:23):
We got along great. She was very, very helpful.

Speaker 6 (45:25):
Sandy and Nicole kept asking about her, Oh, what did
the witch say? What did the witch say about this?
Before we started shooting. She was paid very handsomely by
Warner Brothers for her consulting. I thought it was I
thought it would be fun to bring her out to
Los Angeles, put her in a nice hotel, meet Sandy
and Nicole, who were dying a meter. When the producer called,
she was greatly offended and wanted three gross points from

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the film's profit. She wanted to public publish a practical
magic cookbook and said, you can't buy me off with
a hotel. She left a curse and some sort of
tongue on my voicemail that was quite chilling. Actually, I'm
threatened to sue Warner Brothers. So I took the little
mini cassette recording and gave it to the legal department.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
They didn't get.

Speaker 6 (46:04):
Halfway through it before they said fuck this and wrote
her a check. The Vanity Fair interviewer asks did her
curse seem to have any effects on the set, and
he says, well, you know, well, you know how show
people are. I tried to keep this so contained because
I knew that they would just run with it.

Speaker 7 (46:19):
Everyone.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
A crew member's father, who was quite elderly, died of
a heart attack before shooting. It was very, very sad,
but everybody went, oh, my god, that's the witch. The
witch killed the guy's father, which is just exactly the
conversation I did not want to have on my set.
So we kept the news quite contained, but Sandy and Nicole.

Speaker 7 (46:36):
Knew and would talk about it endlessly.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
We went ahead and got the movie made, but it
was just one of those ventures that happened along the
way it happens on most movies.

Speaker 7 (46:44):
I have yet to work on a film where witch
has cursed us.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Was it right joined hands that finally lifted Marie's curse?

Speaker 3 (46:50):
I like to think. So there are some things up,
so I know for certain, always first.

Speaker 18 (46:54):
Bull salta your left shoulder, keep rose Mary, buy your
garden gate plant lavender for.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Luck, fall in love.

Speaker 6 (47:01):
Set in the beginning in the nineties, things went from
wicked to whimsical and back to wicked again. That brings
us to nineteen ninety nine fear of Y two K
and the Blair Witch Project. I've seen a lot of
tiktoks about kids being like, how did people believe this
was actually real?

Speaker 7 (47:19):
When it came out? And I can tell you how
we thought it was real.

Speaker 6 (47:22):
They did this huge marketing campaign now we'd call it
like viral marketing campaign, where they had all these extra
fake documentaries.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
That aired before the blair.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Witch Project came out. One aired on Sci Fi, one
aired on Showtime. So for the youngins who were like,
how did anyone think this was real? The marketing they
did at the time was really really good.

Speaker 7 (47:42):
And there was websites and stuff too.

Speaker 6 (47:44):
This is early Internet, so you could when you typed
it in there would be these web pages that would
make it look like these kids had really gone missing.

Speaker 9 (47:53):
The stories of the Blair Witch I have no explanation
for how yes, I believe it goes was the.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Pointably appointing to the story. There was twelve witnesses who
observe a ghostly white hand come up out of the
water and drag the child out of the water.

Speaker 11 (48:08):
I felt her.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
I haven't ever seen her.

Speaker 10 (48:10):
But I felt to make me stand in a corner,
turned to the wall, and Pete Blair wish three times
to hit me with the spotlight, and I break down
in tears.

Speaker 8 (48:17):
When it's difficult to criticize law enforcement when you've been along.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
You would never believe his family of chion like this
had those.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
That stood all its hopes, and even some of them
blame me for being maybe part of them.

Speaker 11 (48:33):
I don't believe in ghosts, vampires and commune are.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
A little bit ghosts and vampires and communists.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I love that, except it.

Speaker 6 (48:42):
Was really strange.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Something about watching their last days on felt that I
don't know if I would have I don't know, I can't.

Speaker 14 (48:52):
I jos.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
The tapes are very take even like to think of
the players don't hop about.

Speaker 8 (49:01):
The search of the three missing Montgomery College students continues
in Frederick County tonight, as dozens of volunteers and state
officials joined local forces what has now become a full
scale search in the Black Hills area.

Speaker 19 (49:12):
Local officials, combined with over one hundred search volunteers, have
failed to come up with any signs of the three
missing filmmakers. Montgomery College film students Heather Dona Hugh, Michael Williams,
and Joshua Leonard were reportedly shooting a school project about
a local myth called the Blair, which at this time
their whereabouts are still amach of three missing filmmakers has

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been called off. Ten days and thousands of man hours
have been unable to produce any clues to the cause
of the mysterious disappearances. Family and friends of the Montgomery
College graduates are holding on to the hope that someone
or something provides an answers.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Thanks for Lennard Keith Whitaker from news Channel six, May
we have a moment of your time, sir.

Speaker 9 (49:53):
Footage has been found relating to the disappearance of your
son from a year ago.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Sir, you believe the occult may be related to Yeah, no, no,
don't yeah. My wife and I are target.

Speaker 19 (50:06):
Coronel's crap for the case of the Black Hills disappearances
has once again been closed. The investigation was reopened last
October after film reels and video cassettes supposedly belonging to
the three missing film students were found by a Maryland
University anthropology class. Frederick County police officials declare today that

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the found footage was inconclusive and that all possible leads
on the case have been exhausted. Heather Donahue, Joshua Leonard,
and Michael Williams disappeared in nineteen ninety four while shooting
a documentary film project in the Black.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Hills area near Burkettsville. The three student filmmakers are still missing.

Speaker 7 (50:45):
This would have sounded real to you too, Gen and Z.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
This is which I am leaving the comforts off for
the weekend to explore. As I can see you. I'm
very glad.

Speaker 18 (50:59):
It's very big.

Speaker 6 (51:00):
And they were with the townspeople saying what happened. And
we hadn't seen mockumentaries before. We're saying that, saying that
this stuff was true. Once I saw the film then
I was more more suspicious. But going into it, I
absolutely thought it was a documentary and they had found it.

Speaker 7 (51:19):
They had found that that footage.

Speaker 6 (51:21):
That was my first go at the found footage experience,
and I wasn't, I wasn't alone.

Speaker 11 (51:27):
But I don't I don't know why I have to
have every conversation on videos making a documentary not.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
About us getting lost. We're making a documentary about a witch.
I got lost, admit that first.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
No, I know we're not luck.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Oh well, even if it wasn't, I'm not going to
play with that either.

Speaker 7 (51:45):
And it's not because of me that we're here now.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Hungry Cold Mike's mom, Josh's.

Speaker 7 (51:56):
Mom, Tell why God.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
Blair Witch also has my favorite Dawson's Creek episodes spin off.

Speaker 7 (52:14):
They returned to Witch Island.

Speaker 15 (52:16):
Well, there were thirteen witches, Dawson, Thirteen girls were sent here,
and they're only twelve Graves.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Smart girl. Nobody ever picks up on that name is
Mary Walderck. What happened to her?

Speaker 15 (52:26):
Her body was never found. No one knows for sure
what happened. But there are two.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Distinct schools of thought. Those are like a good ghost story.

Speaker 15 (52:32):
Well, they believe that she really was a witch, and
she haunts the island to this day. But for those
romantics out there, they believe that her lover k Aarsen
Orpho's taken in by a family called the Bennetts and
raised alongside their own son, William.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
William and Mary got along famous.

Speaker 15 (52:45):
Much so in fact, than in time with Elama.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Well.

Speaker 15 (52:48):
One night, Mary and William were found in bed together.
This did not go over well with the god fearing Bennetts,
and then the blink of an eye, Mary was no
longer their daughter.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
It was a witch.

Speaker 14 (52:57):
Horrible.

Speaker 15 (52:57):
Can you imagine what this.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Poor girl had to go through.

Speaker 15 (53:00):
This is a young girl, no older than you, put
on trial, banished to some god forsaken island for crimes
that she didn't even understand, much less commit.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
The nineties movies also changed the TV landscape. The Sabrina
television show shows like Charmed, Surprise.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Babe, Welcome Home. It's so good to see you, isn't
it true? I'm speechless. It's just so hard for me
to talk to her. She's always been more like a mother.
That's not her fault.

Speaker 15 (53:28):
She practically had to sacrifice her own child, but to
help raise us.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh my god, I don't believe it.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Tell me that's not our old spirit board to my
three beautiful girls.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
May just give you the light to find the shadows.
The power of three will sit you free, love, Mom.
We never did figure out what this inscription meant.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Great work of magic. I sat in this night and
in this hour, I call upon the ancient power and
her powers to his sisters.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
We want the power. She can move.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Objects with shadows.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
One of our ancestors was a witch named Melinda Warren.
She could move objects with her mind, see the future,
and stuff time. Before Melendo was burned at the State,
she vowed that each generation of Warren witches will become
stronger and stronger, culminating in the life of three Sisters.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
I mean, I'm not a full fledged witch. That takes years.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
Willow and Buffy, the vampire slayer.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Anselm Gon will run home to tell everyone about the
main old.

Speaker 17 (54:38):
Witch, and she and probably dozens of others are persecuted
by a righteous mob.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
It's happened all throughout history, happened in Salem.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
Buffy actually does a lot of the entire seasons basically
that deal with Willow and witchcraft, and it's really interesting
how they do that because it's kind of a parallel
to drugs, where she gets addicted to the magic and
the past.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Right, grant my wishes. Sorry, if I were done, do
you want to screw this up?

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Circle, snow yessing, writing, striking your what's a lot, circling.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Arms, raise a Way, the most Powerful Discharge.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
And the lessons from The Craft, hocus Pocus, Practical Magic. Well,
Practical Magic hasn't had a sequel yet, but almost everything
else we talked about today has various reboots on television.
The Craft Legacy came out a few years ago, Sabrina
the show got a reboot, and American horror story Coven

(55:53):
I think was a great witch story. They show up
in Apocalypse to the movie The Witch. There's so much
good stuff that's come out over the years, but I
really do still think the nineties was the decade of witches.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
It's not a sorority, it's a cover. People always ask
me why I'm a witch. All it is is using
your will to get what you want.

Speaker 6 (56:19):
Thank you for listening to another episode of Broad's next Door.
I'm really trying to get out two episodes a week,
but it's been hard because I do all of the research, recording, editing,
all of it by myself now, But I hope you
enjoyed this episode. I'm hoping to get something out to
you on Friday as well. I'm going to either read

(56:43):
or listen to Britney Spears's book.

Speaker 7 (56:46):
I haven't decided which yet. I was hoping she would
read it, but Michelle.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
Williams reads it, who I also really love, so maybe
I'll use an audible credit.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
But I might do an episode I'm.

Speaker 6 (56:57):
Not going to try and have at least more scary,
spooky season episode. If you enjoyed this episode, please like, rate, subscribe, review.

Speaker 7 (57:10):
All the things.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
You can find me on Instagram at Daniellascrima and at
Broad's next Door, same as all other social media. I'm
going to try and get some new stuff up on
the merg Store because I haven't put anything up since June,
so maybe some sweaters and winter stuff.

Speaker 7 (57:31):
For those of us and this hemisphere.

Speaker 6 (57:34):
All right, I'm very tired and I will talk to
you San.

Speaker 7 (57:37):
Goodbye,