Brunch with Bigfoot Michigan Rob - Ep 125 - Dogman Ranch Creepers!

Tex reveals a little about his findings on his latest adventure at Dogman Ranch! Brent Thomas from the Paranormal Portal also joins the show for a great discussion for Brunch! #bigfootmichiganrob #dogman #bigfoot

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, one and all, Welcome to the Brunch with Bigfoot
Mischian Rob. Of course I am your host BMR. We've
got a cool show set up for everybody for coming in.
Thank you once again to everybody for coming on in
at till one o'clock in the east here in the
state of Michigan, wherever you are. Thank you so much
for joining us. We're I got of course you all know.

(00:25):
I always have Texas my co host, and he did
a little investigation a week or so ago. We're gonna
talk about that a little bit dog Man Ranch. So yeah,
it's pretty fascinating and Texas gone over it over on
the Tech Texas from Porch a little bit. So go
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(01:29):
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(04:14):
not a whole hell of a lot. We're talking about
the weather briefly, like we always do, the differences between
Texas and Michigan. And you've got a heat wave coming
next week.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, we're looking at being eighty two tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Ouch. Yeah, yeah, we're suffering in the thirties and as
we sixty eight all next week. And yeah, that's how
Michigan rolls, you know. But I can't wait. I can
feel this spring air starting to roll already in the
state of Michigan. And of course, a dude that lives
up in Idaho, I gotta bring a Brent, mister Thomas,

(04:56):
welcome back to the show.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
It's a pleasure to be here, Rob, thanks for having
me back. I'm always happy to occupy the third position here.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Good job, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Third Wheel.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, you know that's going to be the title of
my autobiography.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
It is the Third Wheel Show. Print to you by
Brent Thomas, formerly of The Paranormal Portal. Hopefully not for
a while. Brent, You'll be running your show for a
long time. Fantastic show. Go check out Brent on YouTube
and on podcast formats.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
So yeah, how long have you been doing How long
have you had the show? Now?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
I started the Paranormal Portal in I think it was
April of twenty sixteen, so good, yeah, yeah, eight years.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well you're yeah, you're the senior member of the podcasting
world compared to me in texts.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, well, you know, I'm still grinding away. I love
doing it as much today as I did the the
you know when I first started. So it's definitely a
labor of love. And you know that old saying, you
find something you love doing, you'll never work a day
in your life. And that's where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I agree with you. I love doing this text love
is doing it. As long as I love doing it,
I'll continue to do it. And yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Always quits being fun, I'm out, yes.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Ye yeah, where it becomes a chore, like most of us,
some of us are fortunate to have really cool careers
and jobs where you love going to work. But when
that gets stale, it's time to move to a different
job or just retire once you get up to that age,
right there are people that they'll love their job so
much they're working into their seventies, you know, provided God

(06:47):
willing that they can still you know, function.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
So you know, I saw a video. I saw a
video the other day of a there was a guy
he was doing it. He was doing this challenge thing
where it's like, oh, you know, I just need these
two who's He was at a hardware store like a
home Depot or Lows or something, and there was this
older fellow was helping him, and the guy looked like
he was about seventy five eighty ish, but he did

(07:14):
this thing where, oh, I don't have any money. Do
you think you can help me and just get these
screws because they got to you know, go back home
and do it. So the old guy that was helping
him was like, oh, you know, I'll just put it
on my account. That's fine, we'll take care of you.
And they got to talking and basically the young guy
ended up giving the older fella a bunch of money.
But they asked the guy how old he was, and

(07:35):
I think he was like a hundred or ninety nine
or one hundred, and it's like wow, and just the
nicest guy. And it was so bizz I mean, it
blew me away because you think, God, do some people
have to work till they're one hundred? I don't know.
I don't know where I was going with that, but
I thought.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well, I think he was probably doing it just to
give me something to do.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, probably that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, Well, I do think it's cool that you know
a lot of these folks that have retired, and you
find a lot of them, a lot of the men,
some women. You'll find them working at hardware stores part time,
or a check out clerk at maybe your local grocery store,
which is cool because I don't know, See, my dad

(08:24):
retired pretty young. My dad was fifty three when he retired. Now,
my dad's a unique individual, though, because he had so
many things he did upon retirement that he always wanted
to do. So good for him. But I find a
lot of these men and women that work until they're
sixty two, sixty five. They've been doing it for forty years,

(08:47):
and then after a month of retirement, they get fidgeting.
They just can't sit around the house, and they end
up picking up these part time jobs. It's almost like,
just keep your old job. But I get it, a
lot of hours part time is probably more conducive to
when we all get up there in age.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Right, So yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
So, Brat, you were out for a little bit. I'm
we're going to talk about Dice title this the show.
We're talking a little about a little bit about Texas
experience with his little camping trip here in a minute.
But Brat, when you were away, I remember you're on
a little vacation. Were you going out. I don't know
if you were out researching or ghost hunting or did
you just take a little hiatus as a personal vacation.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
It was I was visiting family in Tennessee and that
was wonderful. But you know, I did just a little
bit of investigating. But it was kind of an impromptu thing,
and we stopped by this old, old cemetery and I
mean the graves were like seventeen hundreds, you know, eighteen hundreds,
so it is all these old old graves. But I

(09:54):
my cousin who was with me, said, hey, you know,
do one of your apps, you know, do one of
the ghost apps? Got some on my phone. And here's
the thing. I don't know that you can always subscribe
to them being very accurate. I've heard them spit out
a ton of nonsense, but I'm here to tell you
it spit out some pretty relevant stuff. We stopped at
the grave of the guy who founded the town that

(10:17):
we were in. I can't remember the name of the town,
but it's somewhere around Elizabethton, maybe it was Elizabethton in Tennessee,
and the guy was the founder. He's the guy that
kind of created the town and stuff. So I stopped
his grave and I turned on this this app that
I have on my phone called ghost Talker, and it
might be something that some of you are familiar with

(10:37):
if you ever check out the you know, the YouTube
version of investigation shows, because a lot of people use it.
So I just whipped it out and I was like, uh,
you know, Hellos or whatever the guy's name was, I
don't remember. I said, uh, you know, are you here
keeping an eye on on this town that you founded?
And the first response I got was Heaven? And I

(10:59):
was like, wow, Oh, so that was releve that was relevant.
And then I was like, well, are you pleased with
what's become of your town? Are you pleased with how
it's developed and how it's grown? And he said it
said we are, we are concerned was the next thing

(11:21):
it sped out. I was like, oh my god, that's
pretty crazy. And I was like, well, thank you for
talking to me, and you know, I wish you all
the best and I send you with love and prayers.
And then we're walking around and suddenly this other one
comes up says I miss my life. Oh my god. Wow,
you know, so it was really spitting out some really

(11:41):
cool things, but it was it was only like a
ten minute visit to this place, and in that short
time I got several responses like that that were very relevant.
I was like, Wow, this is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Isn't that how it always goes? Though you're not really
expecting to do anything. You're not expecting to do an investigation,
and you did an impromptu thing. And now, had you
planned to do that, Brent, maybe you would not have
gotten right the response, you know.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah, And the other part of it is a lot
of people think, well, you gotta wait till night time.
Because that's when the spirit's are most active. And honestly,
you can you can investigate any time of the day.
You might be more prone to catching visual anomalies at night,
just because you know, I think that they don't generate
an amount of energy that can really compete with sunlight
in a lot of cases. But so there might be

(12:34):
more visual anomalies in the evening and night. And it's quieter,
of course, so maybe it makes it a little easier
to focus and to dial it in. But you can
investigate any time of the day. It doesn't matter. I mean,
there's no there's no schedule for this stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, there's no schedule. And I think that everyone just
has that connotation about hunting for ghosts or pure in
normal is done at night is as nighttime is spookier.
But I think you're right, all these anomalies, these ghosts,
you can find them twenty four to seven, doesn't really matter.
The night time just provides it on Beyonce of being
extra spooky.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I think, yeah, yeah, And it is quieter, so I
think you know, you're probably more prone to hear maybe
some knocking or you know, things happening around you that
they may never hear in the daytime just because of
the increased activity.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
You know, I wonder if it's if it has something
to do with the fact that just not time as
quieter as far as noise pollution goes, that it's easier
to pick up. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Absolutely, there's no question. I mean, the world's pretty much
asleep when you're out there, you know, at yeah, two
and three am everyone. I mean, it's a ghost town
in a lot of places. So it does help the
you know, because when you're doing like EVPs and stuff,
having active traffic going by as a nightmare, I mean,
you're never going to really be able to be able
to really authenticate an EVP when you've got all kinds

(14:04):
of ambient atmospheric noise going on. You know, it could
be any number of things that could cause it. Whereas
if it's dead quiet in the dead and night and
you get something profound, it's like, well, yeah, there was
nothing going on, So it makes it easier to catch
those things.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
I got to ask another question, Brent, and to you
as well. Text, and we're talking a little bit about
Texas experiences over the past last weekend, but it brings
up a point. We're talking about night time and this
and that is the witching hour of three am. We're
suposedly there's a lot of activity. Is that more of
a myth or is that just something that was conjured

(14:45):
up over the years. At three am is like the
heightened time when you're out of doing an investigation in
the paranormal world.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
And you know, go ahead, go ahead, Brent, No, you
take this and go ahead. I'll comment awkwards.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know, for the longest time, everybody regarded twelve pm
as the witching hour. Yes, twelve am, yeah, yeah, am,
not the afternoon. But I will tell you that as
an investigator that you know, I'm not incredibly active investigating,
but I love getting out there and doing it. But
I've seen that there there does seem to be an

(15:22):
uptick consistently around the three am hour with with catching activity,
catching things going on. And there's lots of theories behind that,
but who the hell really knows. They could be an
energetic thing around the you know, the cycle of the
Earth and the bi rhythm of the atmosphere in the
sun and all kinds of you know, different cycles that

(15:43):
could be affecting what's going on. Maybe it's more and
more more energy is available for them to make themselves known.
It's hard to know. But but again I don't think
I don't think it's exclusive at that time. But generally
speaking a lot of investigators find that there is an
upticking activity around the three to four am hours.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
You know, I've actually played with that theory in the field, okay,
and in Brown Springs up in the cemetery. I've a
there's a video out there. It's actually called where I
went to the cemetery. It's called the Brown Spring Cemetery
the Witching Hour, and it was I purposely waited till

(16:31):
three am to go up there. And I don't know
for some reason that that that Brown Springs area seems
to kick off about nine thirty at night and just

(16:53):
roll through the freaking nine as far as activity goes.
But I will say this, about three am, it gets
kind of hanky up it by yourself.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
That word just s crags me up every time. Hinky.
I'm a Northerner. I'm not used to that, but it
cracks me up everything.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I tell you what heinkey No, never heard the word
until I talk with texts, much like the word porthole,
and another famous texts saying is which I never heard
until I met text, is he's going to be out
of pocket? Yeah, I was when you're like gone going,

(17:38):
you know, back going, not going to be around. Oh,
as I'm looking on my monitor, Hang on, guys, are ups?
Man is here? I have a package that I have
to give him. I have to give rid of my
old equipment. I'll be right back in a second.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
We got this right, text?

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Oh absolutely, let's kick him out of studio, get rid
of them. Yeah. So, but yeah, I don't know, I
use I use all that kind of you know, I
was the same. I just grew up with them. Yeah,
some of them are so damn country that like even

(18:17):
people that honestly, people down here in town had never
heard of them. Oh really, yeah, I asked, uh my
wife was talking about? She went, she talked to somebody
that we hadn't talked to in years, and and I said, well,
what the what they have to allow? What is like?

(18:39):
What what do they have to allow? Yeah? And she's like,
She's like what, And I'm like, what they have to allow?
She goes, what the hell are you talking about? What
does that even mean? I said, what they have to say?
What's been going on?

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Okay, yeah, that's different.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
So yeah, I you know, it's just stuff I grew
up with, you know. I mean, my family's from East Texas,
so you know, it's about as you know, countries as
I come, you know. But yeah, it's I don't know,
I just grew up saying. You know, it's just it's
part of my part of my dialect. I guess you could.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Say, sure, Yeah, No, I think it's neat, like when
you say we'll do our level best and it's like, oh,
that's cool. I like I like those kind of you know,
figures of speech and stuff. I think they're they're fun
and it and it makes listening to you more interesting,
you know, because I get some of the stuff. You

(19:45):
actually got to think about, what does it mean level best?
We're going to do our best? Okay, well, I mean
that's kind of a simplistic example. But what do they
have to allow. It's like, I've never heard of that.
That's so different.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
But yeah, that's what that means. It just means you know,
what they have to say, you know.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Don't know, it's just.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
It's gonna need you know, you were talking about you
were talking about what, you know, the stuff that you
got and I didn't catch all of us put my
headphones in with that whole.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
The cemetery thing.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, the cemetery thing.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
And this recent trip that I went on wasn't the
Brown Springs. It was out dog Man Ranch. And somebody
asked me who and why did y'all give it the who?
Why when did y'all or did somebody name it dog
Man Ranch? Well? I named it dog Man dog Man
Ranch because we keep we got to keep the location secret, right,

(20:50):
and that's what we're out there investigating. And I got
tired of saying the property, you know, I was like, well,
we'll give it a name. That way everybody I know
where we're going versus Brown Springs, you know. So, But
I'm like, so, yeah, that's how we got That's how
it came up with dog Man Ranch. But and a

(21:11):
lot of this, a lot of this ship that's how
we just we just start talking and we'll somebody say something.
It's like, we have a camp out in Brown Springs
that we call Fishhead Camp m H. And there's a
reason that got named that is because the first time
we went out there, there was like god, there had

(21:32):
to be like two dozen fish skeletons out there. Somebody
had caught a bunch of fish and cleaned it out
there and just let the skeletons. Oh okay, so we
start calling it Fishead Camp. But everybody knows, you know,
we can say, when you know, shoot a text, I'll
meet you a fishhead, you know, and that's where we're going.
So but nobody knows where it's actually at because you know,

(21:55):
it's it's tucked back and it's tuk back in Brown
Springs quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
So is that a different from like the Red River?
Is it like going fishing at what was that fish
fish Head camps?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
No, that whole area is on the Red River. But
this is just a certain location because there's different we
go to different there's different campsites and different locations that
we go to in Brown Springs, and it's like we
all know where of course, we all know where the
cemetery is at, we all know where the what we
call the first campsite is, and we all know where

(22:34):
fish Head is just by you know, those those those names.
But they're all along, they're all in Brown Springs and
they're just all in the part of that wildlife management area.
So yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
I like the fact that you coin that dog Man
Ranch because it's catchy and when you do a show
and you're talking about at least you have something that
people can now kind of imagine, you know, the camp
area or the location kind of and it's.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Every bit as weird as skin Walker Ranch, you know, Yeah,
absolutely perfect.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, And I know you've been there, and I've you
did a show or two already and you talked about
it a little bit, and I know you've got much
more things to uncover text regarding this ranch, dog Man Ranch,
if you like, if you can lighten some of the people,
because I know you want to save some material for Monday.

(23:39):
What have What were some of the weirdness? I know
there's a weird uh, some weird things you came across,
including some very weird audio which I can't play because
I told you earlier I can't pick it up for
some reason.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
If you can load it.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, but yeah, so what was I guess once you
walk aust do a little bit of.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
It, and well, you know, this is our third trip
out there, and the uh, the first time of the front.
I'll walk you through the whole time, the whole all
of it real quick. The first time we went out
there was me and Ranger. We made the first scout
trip out there, and we met up with them with

(24:21):
Uders in which you know, he pops in the chatter
once a while and I had him on the show,
but he's the property owner out there and him and
his wife. Now, so the first time we went out there,
we we kind of it was kind of a I
don't know, I think we spent like four hours out
there and just driving around and getting out and walking

(24:42):
and looking at different places. Even that time, we had
weird stuff happen. We found weird stuff we went from
we went down in the creek and Ranger found it's
some footprint that were really freaking odd because they were

(25:03):
canine but they had a thumb.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Mm hm.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
And you know, we're still kind of going back and
forth whether that's just just a one off critter that
has a birth defect or you know, something like that,
or if that's actually maybe what we're dealing with, you know,
one of the critters that we're dealing with out there. Well,

(25:30):
then there's a there's an old house that's about half
ass tore down and we were up there and Urson
and ranger. We're up on the front porch, and I
had went around to the back of the house on
the outside and was scuping out the back side of

(25:52):
the house and you know that type of thing. And
one of the doors slammed shut in the house, and
they heard footsteps and they thought it was me. Well,
there's a big hive of bees that are in this
that have made a hive inside the wall, one of

(26:12):
the walls of this house. I mean there's probably thousands
of bees that this high. And they and they thought
it was me coming in the back door, you know,
and walking through the house, and they actually set they actually,
you know, said to me, hey, watch the bees, man,

(26:32):
you know, be careful. I never heard them because I'm
out in the back of this place and I come
bee bopping around the front porch when they came out,
and Pasas texted, you say, half assed, Yes I did.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
And.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
It's better than a whole ass.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Right right, I'm the whole ass. You know. Everything else happened,
but when I came bouncing around, be bopping around, and
they go and they that to that point, they still
thought I had went back out of the house and
just didn't answer them, and then they told me what
is going on? They said, did you go back out

(27:14):
the back door? I'm like, I ain't been in the house,
what are you talking about? You know, I stepped up
on the porch and went inside with y'all the first
when we first got here. But I was in the backyard,
you know. So we had that happen, and so there
there was there was weird stuff right off the get
go that we experienced out there.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
And so you just put prints of the footfalls inside
the home.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah wow, in this particular house. Now this is actually
on our neighboring property, but we have access to it,
and the owner of that property was had hired these people,

(28:04):
these laborers to go in and and tear this house down. Right. Well,
they went in the house, got spooped, and we and
left and refused to come back.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oh wow, oh jeez.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
So we we've yet to go back and investigate that
house because we've got so much other stuff going on.
But that isn't the planned for the next trip. And
there's two more houses that are that are very very
active in par paranormal wise, that are become where there

(28:42):
are going to be vacated in the near future, and
we're going to have a full access to those. So
there's a lot more to this investigation than just these
critters around this ranch. The second time we went out there,
we started hearing around camp. We started hearing and you

(29:04):
gotta remember, folks, this is two thousand acres, so we're
quite a ways from these houses, you know, versus the
camp site, because we're like three quarters our campsites about
three quarters away in this property. So we're sitting around
camp and we start hearing what some some some people

(29:26):
will describe it as metal clinging. Some people will started
we'll describe it as bottle clinking around camp. Now now
I'm not I'm not talking about a long way from camp.
This is like, you know, it sounds like it's right

(29:49):
behind your tent, you know, and it it's not the
same location. It goes around camp, change its location. And
I think everybody that's been there has heard it at
least once. Whow Now this happens like y'all were talking

(30:13):
about nighttime versus daycoud, this happens twenty four to seven. There,
We've heard it at all times of the day and night,
you know. So we got that weird stuff going on,
and along on that second trip, we also Pops was there.
He saw something standing under a tree, a like a

(30:38):
We don't know if it was a critter or or
or if it was a shadow entity, but it was
standing next to one of the trucks and I saw
something run. I was up, I got said, since two
or three o'clock in the morning, and I was up

(30:59):
by myself, which I do a lot. But I'm sitting
there across sitting in the campfire, and I'm looking towards
the entrance to camp and I see this thing run about.
I know, it's four or five feet tall. It ran
past a light colored bush. It ran in front of
it actually blocked the bush out. I had plenty of moonlight,

(31:21):
and I'm like, what the hell was that, you know?
But it was on two legs, some of the bitch,
you know, and we had some That's that's the time
when we went down to what we call the homestead,
which is this is a house that stood as far

(31:42):
as we can tell, up until at least nineteen thirty eight,
and the foundation is still there. Well, the from what
we can determine that the entire family died of like
something like from influenza. Oh yeah, and they're buried under

(32:04):
one of the old, the big old oak trees there
next to the homestead. So you got the foundation of
the house that's still there, and you got the cistern
that they used for water that's still there. But what's
really cool is you also have their refuge pile that's

(32:25):
there that you can dig into and find stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Like we're broken plates and stuff or okay.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
They threw their trash and stuff and buried it. They found,
uh what I can't remember. I can't remember the button
they found. I can't remember if it was like a
War one button or a Civil War button. I can't
remember which one it was. I think it was. I
think it was a War one button or something like that,

(32:55):
but like a dob boy uniform or something. I may
be wrong, but El Michelle, but but we also experienced
now we split up. This night, we had several people

(33:18):
that was roaming around the homestead and they were doing
a little investigation there. And that's the knight that I
took off by myself and went walking. There's this one
part of the road that comes in. It's just really
creepy because the you know how the trees grow over
the road and they kind of connect and make a
campy you know type thing. Am I froze up? Nope, okay,

(33:49):
And they saw what they described as and and we've
got we've got it on film, that film whatever. But
it's a it's an area I think it's between two
trees that was glowing and it had like a rectangle

(34:19):
shaped to it and like swirls in the middle of this.
Really yeah, now, pops and pops and ullers, and they
got a bad vibe off of that. I wasn't there
when this happened, and haven't hadn't happened since it's probably
a good thing that I wasn't there, because my dumb

(34:42):
ass would have walked right to it.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
You know.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
It's it's just how I am. But while this was
going on, I was walking. I was walking down that
down down the down the road through the hm you know,
just to see what I can see. And that's where

(35:05):
I caught what appears to be a dog man on camera.
Oh and I mean and that that video is on
the channel.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
And uh on YouTube.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, so yeah, I mean there's a lot in this
in this latest trip. Man, I got stocked because we
what we did, we went to the highest point of
the ranch and you can see all around us in
the nearest lights are like a mile away. It's really

(35:42):
a cool place to go.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
But I hadn't stopped. We were driving around with Uz
and me and my nephew were and I had n't stop,
and I played those howls from Pops Pop's property, and
and we thought we heard something in the brush. Well,
I got out of the truck and I said, y'all

(36:08):
take off, give me about ten fifteen minutes and let me.
You know, I want to go see what, you know,
see what happens. And yeah, I think, I think, I think.
I think Boondock is right. I think we posted a
picture of the spot with the rectangular looking opening. Somebody did,

(36:31):
I can't remember. But anyway, so I'm walking and I
start hearing what sounds like footsteps in the trees. So
I walked towards this tree line, walk down the hill
and go toward this tree line. And I know, people,
grit because you need a brighter light, you need night vision,

(36:53):
you need this, you need that, folks. I think it's
because I don't use this super bright light or anything,
and I'm able to get close to this stuff. You know,
because my light's not as bright, so it doesn't rich
as far and a lot of the stuff tends to

(37:13):
stay right on the edge of your light. Okay, so
it allows me to get, you know, close that gap
a little more. M and I start hearing something. I
describe it on the video as something like it sounds
like something's eating. But also what it sounded like was
like a bear gnashing its teeth in the morning. You

(37:37):
know how they'll click their jaws. Yeah, that's what it
sounded like to me.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
That's when you know you're in trouble, when they're clacking
their jaws.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah, but we don't have bear there. It's too far south.
We just don't have them. So I don't know what
that was. But whatever it was started tracking me when
I was walking, and I was moving towards it too.
But oh boy, well, I mean, you're not gonna find

(38:10):
anything if you do. If you run from it.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I mean, you know, I know you text and that's
we'd all would do the same thing. But yes, I
wouldn't coming toward you. You're going toward it. You know
it's not a beer, So right away your senses are
heightened to what can this be?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it could it could be
a lot of things. I mean, well, I'll say it
could be a lot of things. I don't know anything
else that we have down here in that area that
we'll do that now. Boon Dot in the chat says,
didn't sound like a wild pig nash in his tusk.
I thought about that, but there was no other sounds

(38:53):
except that and some footsteps. Normally, pigs are a lot loud,
you know, especially if they're moving through brush, you know,
and when they're they're going they're they're nashing their tusk
and stuff. You're gonna hear, you know, pig like sound,
you know, and grunts and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
And not to mention the footsteps are actual bipedal footsteps
right right, kind of while you hear in the house.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Yeah, because I would hear I would hear like a footstep,
and then I would hear another footstep, but it would
be like five yards from the first one, you know,
So you're not hearing you know, the you're not hearing
the cadence of a four legged animal. You're not hearing

(39:46):
you're not even hearing the cadence of a two legged animal. Really,
you're just hearing every every once in a while something
you know, it's a step on something or whatever.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
But it started moving with me. Well, then I hear
another one one that was on behind me, so it
was like I was being stalked. So I heard them
that he was driving a diesel truck, so I could
hear him coming down the road. I'm like, okay, well
they're headed back, so I'll had back up the hill.

(40:16):
I had walked quite a ways down the hill, and
the path I took went through, walked down the hill
beside a tree line, went through a tree line, along
another tree line, and then up through another one. So

(40:36):
I was on my way back up and I was
walking next to a tree line on my left, and
this is pretty much right at the end of the video.
You can hear this thing and I don't know what
the hell it was, but it hissed at me, oh jeez,
and it was like that, you know, and you can

(40:59):
hear it on the audio and you can hear me go,
what did y'all hear that? But and of course, and
that was night two, and we had heard night one.
We had heard the bottle clinking and that type of
thing where I can and not three is when I

(41:20):
ran into this crawler thing that I've never seen before.
I've never encountered one before, so that was a cool
experience because it was the first time I've ever seen one,
and supposedly.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
A crawler like a caterpillar.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, yeah, it was a caterpillar. We walked up that.
We went, well, we drove up this pole barn that
is given it's it's always given UIs and a hanky
feeling when he's been there and just they just located
it not too long ago from a uh aerial photographs

(41:57):
and it's partially tore down. All the walls are going on,
but the wire is still there and the wire goes
from the floor to the ceiling and it's got a
tin roof on it. So we drive up to this thing.
We get out, we're walking up and I'm kind of
in front of everybody, and unfortunately we weren't we weren't

(42:22):
recording at the time. But you hear me what well,
you don't hear me, but it stopped me when I
saw this thing. It went, it went up the wall
on the outside and on top of the on top
of the barn and never made a sound. Now, how
something physical can climb up a wire wall and on

(42:44):
a tin roof and not make a sound. I don't
think that's possible.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
And could you tell a color or what did it
appear like to you?

Speaker 2 (42:53):
It was it was kind of a charcoal gray and
it looked like Spider Man going up the wall. That's
what it looked like. It was man size, and it
look like it looked like a man. Wow, you know yeah.
And it was so fast, I mean it was like
just I mean it was so fast and I stopped

(43:15):
adding my tracks and what that if was that?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
You know? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Right, So everybody kind of catches up to me and
they're like, what did you see? What you see? And
I explank to him. Well that automatically set Ulerson on
his heels because he's evidently, well not evidently he has
encountered these things before, and he's going to come on

(43:43):
the show.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
And go over that we're gonna, we're gonna this.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Is Yeah. I don't know how in depth he wants
to get into the encounter, because it rattles when he
starts talking about it.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
I mean you really quickly then throughout his uh being
the owner of the property and residing here for I
don't know how many years. I don't know if you
mentioned that, but he's so.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
His family's been his family's been in been on his
property for about two hundred years.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
So in the history, they'll they've he had all sorts
of ice, strangeness, whatever you want to call it, happening
throughout the decades.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Yes, yes, yes, And that's what makes this this this,
you know, this area is so fascinate. It's one thing
that makes it so fascinating.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
The other interesting thing is that with that much history
they've they've never been attacked, they've never been heard. I mean,
these things are just sounds like they're just sharing space, right,
they're not aggressively.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
So that's now they've been harassed. They've been harassed. Sure,
he's actually shot and hit a dog man oo out there. Wow,
and he's identified five different when he can tell five
different five different dog men out there, dog people, dog
beings whatever, I don't know what pronoun they identify as.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
But I mean five different, like different shapes and sizes, yeah, colors,
Yeah you are. That's fascinating.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
And not far from this place, I had gotten a
report of a white dog man that had been seen
crossing a road. Before I was even in contact with Ulson.
I got this, and I had no idea it was
gonna be in like the same area several miles away.

(45:44):
But you know these things, I think they have a
huge territory that they travel. So we think it was
probably because there is a now he describes as gray
or silver, but in certain lights it could be absolutely
seen as white. So we think it was one of

(46:07):
the one of the dog men from from you know,
this area. We think what I saw the first the
second trip out there, run across and block out that
bush and everything was probably the juvenile. That's the younger
one or smaller one at least that that that's out there.

(46:27):
So anyway, sitting beside this barn are these and they
are these concrete, prefabbed steps, okay, that you see in
front of a trailer house or something like that job shack,
that type of thing. And I made a joke out
of it. I said, hey, I said, I'm going to

(46:48):
do what everybody tells you not to do. I'm gonna
go upstairs that are out in the middle of the
hoods right and go to nothing. So I walk up
these stairs. Now what's important to remember here is I
did not. I didn't have to make my way through
briers or step over anything getting up these stairs. They
weren't covered with any minds or anything.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
And they were just sitting there, just a staircase leading
to what the nothing just nothing.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Yeah, they would evidently they had been used there, you know,
they for a purpose of the barn at some point,
I guess, or they had been used somewhere else and
they just moved them back. I don't know, but anyway,
they were there, okay, And so I walk up. I
walk up these three steps and it allows me and

(47:38):
the reason I did it really is to get see
if I could get a better look on top of
the barn, you know, try to figure out, you know,
if I could see this thing that had you know, jumped,
you know, crawled on top of the barn. So I'm
on the top step and I'm looking around, looking at
the top of the barn, and uh, I turn around

(48:02):
and I got to walk back down the stairs, and
I physically felt something. I thought I was a briar
that had grabbed my pants leg is what it felt like.
It felt like something wrapped around my parts, my my leg,
my lower leg, and I went airborne from the third
step I was and landed several feet from theirs when

(48:29):
I hit. Luckily, the briars broke my fall. But and
I hit, I hit pretty hard. It hurt. I mean, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Wouldn't imagine ever hitting the ground at any height is
a good thing.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Well, I'm not, you know. It's like we were talking
about Brent. You know, I'm not a small guy, you know.
But my nephew and Uderson helped me up to my feet. Well,
Utterson's wife had seen when that happened. She saw a
hand come around from behind the stairs and grabbed my pants.

(49:13):
Let I don't know how else to describe it as,
but like she said, it was like a fog shaped
hand or a hand shaped fog.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Human shaped foggy yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah. And then right as that happened, Uderson also saw
something like crawl around the side of the barn. After
that happened. It's like so boondocks as it was trying
to see if it could piss me off. Well it succeeded.

(49:49):
I was mad, And when I got back up, I said, okay,
I said, y'all need to leave. You drive off, give
me about ten minutes or so and let me do
my thing, and that's the audio that we can play
if you want, you know, and it may not pick
something up. I don't know. I really haven't really really

(50:11):
listened to it, you know, with headphones in and know
what kind of stuff, So I don't know if there's
anything out there, but I'm I'm challenging this thing or
whatever it is, you know. So I do drop an
F bomb at the end of it, just to let
y'all know. But if you want, we can play that.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, play it.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
It's about six minutes long. So let's see.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Where's that?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Where's that? Yeah? Here it is, just so you know,
it's in the It's under the background music tab rob
It's called pole Born. Okay, it's on mine now, yeah,
I put you all right, so y'all listen up and

(51:08):
and I'll turn it up. Let me turn it up,
all right, Okay, I can take it off a loop,
all right, So I'll play it and y'all y'all listen.
We'll see if we can pick anything up.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Are you gonna hit the button? You got it? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, I got it? You are ready?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:32):
All right? Whatever you are, it's just me and you, kah,

(52:03):
I'll tell you what I'm explaining this?

Speaker 3 (52:18):
H Are you paying?

Speaker 1 (52:28):
What was that sound?

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yes? I am peeing?

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Oh my lord, you're marking the turf. Okay, I got you.
That's actually a good idea. So anyway, I just I
was like, what a.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Well, yeah, never mind, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Okay continue. If you've been bothering these nice folks, you
need to get the hell out of dodge and leave
them alone.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Why don't go where you are?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
If you didn't stick around long enough, you'd get gonna
look at you and how you went on top of
that ten barn without making you noise? I don't know,

(53:59):
but I mean you for about ten minutes they drove
off nothing.

Speaker 4 (54:33):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Circle back around behind me is actually messing with me?

Speaker 6 (54:49):
Back there?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Do you want to go over there? I'll go over there.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
M that sound? What was that sound? Text? You want
to circle right back around me? Go ahead, I'll go there.
And then I heard like h like that.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
I don't I don't know. I didn't. I didn't catch it.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
It seems kind of an omalous. Whatever it is. It
didn't sound like your sound. Okay, something there, whatever timestamp
that is, you might want.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
To I'm what you hear? What you hear me respond
to when I'm when I'm talking to, Oh you did
you sneak? Did you come around behind me? Did you
want me to go over there? I heard I heard
a tree. I heard a tree break across the because
right next to this pole barn is a gas well pad.

(55:44):
Oh and on the other side of the gas well
in the tree line is when I heard this tree break.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
What kind of tree break? Is it like a snap
of a good sized twig or we huging like a tree?

Speaker 2 (55:57):
It sounded like a good sized branch.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Okay, got yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Good sized branch, So I mean it was a it
was a good crack. And I don't know. We didn't.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
We're able to go back and maybe try to find
the break. I know there's a lot of trees out there.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
But now we we left the next day, but there
there Again, the tree breaks are not uncommon to hear
out there, right, So you know, you can't really put
a whole lot of stock in it just because you
hear a tree break, but it's something that you know,
you need to at least acknowledge if it gets picked

(56:37):
up on audio or whatever. You know, we left the
next day, so we we didn't go back and look.
But anyway, I'll continue. All right, let's go see what

(56:59):
you've got. You close by a freeway or it's just

(57:59):
like in the middle of nowhere, those are airplanes.

Speaker 6 (58:03):
Okay, you want to break some more trees?

Speaker 1 (58:15):
All right?

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Me, what do you want to do.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
There's like cricket noises that when I'm hearing as well
in the background. Text Is that crickets or what's the
higher pitch thing?

Speaker 2 (58:35):
It may be it was kind of cold that week
that weekend we were out there, but they may have
been coming out. We did see some butterflies out and
we did see some miles out stuff like that, so
it's it's possible, okay, And I'm assuming that footfall i'm
hearing is yours. Yeah, Yeah, that's me walking on the

(58:56):
gravel around the around the gas cast.

Speaker 7 (58:58):
Well, okay, I got ten percent left in my phone

(59:59):
after that, I can't longer for help.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I'm all yours. Come on, ring it. Yeah, And don't
you think that was an invitation, by the way, because
it wasn't imitation. Imitation, get your ass kick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Dring it eye texts. You know, everybody for listening Texas
plate demons. Just so y'all know mm hmmm, that's what I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Thought, fucking coward.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Mhm kay, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
I mean it's it's it is cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah, oh yeah, that's uh yeah, that's kind of what
I do.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
How to give you credit though, I mean again, you know,
you just had several experiences and sightings and then you're like, Okay,
everybody leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Like everybody, huddle up, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Well wow, yeah, I mean, you know, it's I don't
want these I don't want these whatever these things are
to get the upper hand or I got I don't
know if that's the right term.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
H You don't want to show fear or that's your.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Yeah, I guess because I think the more I think,
the if you're show the fear, I think you know,
they thrive on it, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I think a lot of them few on it. They
feed on your fears and they put you in a
state where you're more susceptible to maybe getting attachments. If
it's an if it's even paranormal, we're still undetermined whether
all these creatures have this property. Are flesh and blood
paranormal or what have you? Right now, the creepy crawler

(01:02:20):
thing and the ghostly hand, foggy hand, or wrapped around
your leg or tugged it on your pantle like going
up that ladder. Probably paranormal. But we can't explain for
the five different dog men that apparently roam this place either, right,
we don't know what to make of that as of yet.
I mean, that's why you're going to continue to investigate this,

(01:02:43):
this this area, I imagine to.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Me, it's also interesting that you know, whatever this this
location is, whatever dynamic is going on, it's it's pretty
pretty intense because oftentimes we often regard these things say
is very territorial, like this is where the dog man is,
this is where the bigfoot are, and there's definitely a

(01:03:07):
like a demilitarized zone between them in a lot of cases.
But then you hear these something like this where it's
several phenomena interact in the same geographical area, and I
didn't I mean, it really does almost lend to the
possibility that there is some sort of active portal or
or some kind of vor tex of energy there that's

(01:03:29):
that they're that they're interacting with.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
And and and then again there again, folks, I don't
suggest you go do this stuff. You know, leave it
to the stupid people like me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Yes, well the some might be stupid, but you know,
I think with your particular attitude though text, I think
it's all about your attitude, not just you, but in general,
I think that it takes a strong constitution when you're
investigating something that you're unaware of. Right, you just can't

(01:04:06):
all the things I've learned, if you appear afraid and
you're scared and you question what you're doing, whether it's
a creature or something paranormal, they pick up on that
instinctially and then they and then they will and they're
feeding upon that energy if you have Yeah, because you follow.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Yeah, and somebody asked if this is the audio from
you know, me seeing the crawler or whatever it is,
and yeah, that that's this is right after I saw
that and fell down the stairs and everything. This is
the same place and pole arm when that happened.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
So you're ready kind of ornery because you took the spill.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Yeah, I was. I was pissed. I was passed.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Yeah, I don't blame you. How how tall were these stairs,
like how many? How many stairs to the top of.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
It was just three? So it was just so it's
about you know, about three feet, you know from I
fell from about three feet, so, yeah, which is enough.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
And how far up did the stairs go?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Just three? It was just three stairs, three stairs.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Did you mention too that there was Civil War activity
around here? This is dated way back where there was
perhaps a battle went on in this area and perhaps
spirits out here as well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
There were probably there were probably more. The history probably
didn't involve as much of the Civil War as it
did Mexico and well Indian fights and and uh, you know,
fights with the Indians and the cattle drive stuff and everything.

(01:05:47):
Because it's not too far from the place where I
lived in that haunted house, you know, and where that
massacre took place. So there's a lot of a lot
of dark history in this general area. It's only about

(01:06:08):
as the crow flies, probably an hour or so from
I think I measured it one time, and it was
like thirty nine miles or something as the crow flies
from where that gentleman was killed and had his throat
ripped out that we talk about. So there's a lot

(01:06:30):
of stuff. And of course my dog man, my first
dog man sighting when I sixteen, took place about an
hour in the other direction from this place. So there's
a lot of a lot of activity in this general
area of Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Yeah. So wowo.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
And apparently at this location has been going on, as
we mentioned a couple of times during the show, for decades.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
How often is this person that owns this rants to
come across these things? Is it a daily thing, weekly thing,
monthly part of life? Now we expect something every time
he's out row me about his land.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
You know, he texted me every couple of weeks about
something happens, So it's pretty regular. I mean sometimes it'll
amp up and it'll be like a whole you know,
a whole month of stuff going you know. So and
the cool thing about this last trip, it was a
new moon, so we had zero moonlight, you know, and

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it was the same this this took place over the
same night where all those planets aligned. Okay, oh, so
it was an interesting combination.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Last time we went out there, it was it was
a full moon and we had all kinds of light.
But this time it was it was very very dark
and the planets were aligned. Yeah, you know, actually aligned.
So it's you know, it's very very interesting, very very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
That's kind of a cool point. I mean, of course,
earlier today we all talked about the Witching hour three
am twelve am, and now you bring up how the
planets aligned, and you know we've often talked about the
blood red Moon. Do you guys, once again, think that
when we have these changes like in the Solar system

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or wherever you want to go with that, that or
even they sayd all halos eve. I mean, you know,
again a lot of it's folklore, legend, who knows. But
do you think that, like with the planets aligning for
the first time, I don't know how long, do you
think that brings out a lot more otherworldly activity?

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
You think, uh what it seems to It seems to
when we have these these specific uh astral events I
guess we could call them, it seems to ramp up
the activity for some reason. I don't know if it's

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just coincidence, because I don't believe in coincidences.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
But you're not doing this. You really can't, Brett. You
all understand lives of the line of the planets. Every
once in a while that more activity is observant or
just something that coincidence or.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
I think it's got a it's gotta matter. I mean,
because uh, you know, even just from a astronomical point
of view, there's those kinds of alignments have to mean something.
And and of course in astronomy and astrology, astronomy it's it's, uh,
it's a marvel when they all line up. But in
an astrologists, I've always have always regarded planetary positions as

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being important for things. And I, you know, I don't
really know what to make of astrology, but it's surprising
if you get if you get a chart done, like
a real not just opening the newspaper and checking out
what does it say about my sign? But if you
get your chart done, it's scary how dialed in they
can be, just based on you know, what was going

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on when you're born and what continues, how how those
those astronomical bodies continue to influence us. So it seems
like there has to be something with it. And I
don't see why it wouldn't also interact with the energetic
and possible you know, multi dimensional planes that exist around us.
So yeah, I think it's I think it's powerful stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Yeah, it's I don't see how it can't matter. I mean,
the well, if you if you I guess if you
believe we live on a big blue marble, which I
do believe in gravity and all that kind of thing.
I think you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Don't believe in flat earth.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Uh no, you know, hang, if somebody does, that's cool.
I mean, you Knowegie does does and you don't mean him,
you know it mikes for an interesting conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
The flat marble, brown door, flat marble.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
Yeah, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
I particularly subscribe to the planet is round. I mean,
every time I poured water on the globe, it's it's
poured off. So I I just can't figure that one out. Yeah, yeah,
you know, but I'm not looking fun at flat earthers.
Is very interesting conversation with anybody, Just like the dark

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side of the moon, or is the moon even the
moon right right? Sorts of things you can get into.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
I just I just think about it this way. It's like, well,
it really doesn't matter if it's a plate or if
it's a if it's a you know, a sphere, because
at the end of the day, my bills are still
doing these days about these same problems, no matter if
I'm on a plate or a planet. And that's what
I really got to worry about. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Yeah, Now I don't pretty much worry about that either.
I just roll with the floor and always makes for
great conversations and shows. And I love when people have
frankly differing opinions because it makes things makes you think
it's not boring, you know, depending what side of the
of the road you fall with. The with the topics

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this dog Man Rams text, it's something I have a
funny feeling You're going to be visiting often. It's gonna
be on your your radar, along with of course Brown Springs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yeah, I'll probably be making more trips to this place
than I will brown Springs because we have this for
a limited we have access for a limited time. Brown
Springs is always going to be there for the most part.
And they're doing a lot of construction around brown Springs
on the highway, widening the highway, making a new bridge
and and all that kind of stuff. So it's and

(01:13:07):
plus this this place is a lot closer. But I've
yet to do what I really want to do. I
haven't been out there by myself yet, which I'm gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Of course, texts that that goes without saying, and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
If y'all can hear, I've got the vacuum cleaner running
in the background, so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
I cannot hear text. It must be one of those
electric ones.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
I mean, I don't I don't use a gas power
vacuum cleaner.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
But yeah, oh really, I thought I was the only one.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
Okay, Texas vacuum is by a Huskavarna.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
I think you're very talented, though, tex That you're here
with us on the show and your olst vacuuming, that's
pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Yes, And how you function from your position in your studio.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Office, well, I'm on speak with the vacuum plane.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Yeah. Telepathic communications. For everybody to know, is Texas big
into telepathy. I will come up this morning via telepathy text,
get up, we have a show in twenty minutes and boom,
he texted me back.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Got the message absolutely absolutely, we were connected on a
home a higher plane as it were. Bob Gee.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
If you guys missed the beginning of the show, check
it out listening to Text's got some great information on this.
He'll be sharing more as he unfolds more information. He's
got a lot of audio and maybe some pictures that
he'll be showing on Texas from porch as the month
months roll on and so, yeah, this is pretty cool
and what I'm driving though, there's a whole lot, lot

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of more than one thing involved here. You're looking at
some paranormal supernatural. You're looking at perhaps, as you mentioned,
five different types of dog people, creatures, were wolves, and
some ghostly hauntings and a lot of history dating back forever.

(01:15:21):
And so I think that it's got a little bit
for every investigator or researcher to go check out. You know,
it's funny because you did cain a dog man ranch. Well,
if you talk about Skinwalker Ranch, there's more than there's
pretty much a lot of what you've talked about. But
of course the only difference, and I was gonna ask
you because with Skinwalker Ranch, they also have UFO activity,

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a lot of anomalous sightings in the skies. So my
question to you is, speaking with this ranch owner, has
he seen anything in the air in the skies, orbs,
perhaps UFOs perhaps anything of that nature.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
There has been orbs seen on the property. I have
not seen one yet, but I believe they've seen UFO activity.
There's been some black unmarked traffic aerial and ground around

(01:16:29):
the area, so there's that. But I can't. I mean,
I haven't seen any of it yet, but you know
it's still early into it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Well, I mean, the most of us believe in all
these things kind of parallel each other, they're all kind
of connected. And I certainly would not be surprised if
in a month you say, hey, Rob, check this out
and it's something up in the sky or in order
to transforms and all of a sudden there's a big
foot king. We all heard those.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
Yeah, absolutely, you know, and it's this place is intriguing.
I mean, it really is. And we were we were
how this all started, how it all came about was
we were approached by Ulersen at a conference and we're

(01:17:25):
asking they were directed to us because of this, because
of the situation, and because of the location. And let's see,
Sissy Lawson asked text, if you went into the dog
Man Triangle here in Texas, we actually live in part

(01:17:48):
and right outside the dog Man Triangle.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
So there's a shock.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Yeah, I'm not too sure if if if Texas is
not an entirety of Texas, it's not a dog Man Triangle,
to be honest with.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
It's kind of crazy that they I mean, that's surprising.
How many varied geographical areas these dog men are reported.
I mean, it's pretty much a nationwide phenomenon, just like
Bigfoot as far as I can tell.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Yeah, you know, there's definitely I mean, of course you
got your hot spots or clusters, it seems, but.

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
They I.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Don't know an area you don't hear much of it.
It seems that you don't hear much of it, like
out of your area or the Pacific Northwest as much.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Yeah, there's some claims up in my area that I've
heard through the grapevine. But yeah, I don't think it's
real common up here. But then again, you know, you
need people around to make reports, and there's miles and
miles of no people up here, you know, in between
these spotty towns that are decorated throughout the you know,

(01:18:58):
the Four Resting Mountains.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Right, Freaky says this is the first time hearing of
such a triangle. Actually, if you go watch there's a
there's a documentary that Small Town Monsters put outs called
The dog Man Triangle where what was a the Lone
Star State and it's free on TV. If you want
to go watch it. You might see it familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Face, Yes, you might see a familiar face.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Could could happen?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Could happen?

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Unless you're only listening to audio, then you might not
recognize anybody, right, Yeah, what's funny under my head?

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Speaking of small town monsters, I'll be traveling north to Wexford, Michigan.
What's going on there, Rob Chapel of dog Man. I
will have a little park in a small town Monsters
documentary coming out in fall. Congratulations, thank you for that.
I'll keep y'all posted on that. We're gonna film part

(01:20:02):
of it April eighth or ninth. Effor head out there
and spend the day out in the forest of Wexford,
which is, of course not too far from my Bigfoot counter.
So I'm kind of and I haven't been back in
this area since twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Cool. Remember all those little people as you're, you know,
putting out handprint in your star in Hollywood there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
You know you sound like texts, Brent. I'm just I'm
just good old average BMR doing my podcast thing, writing
my books, appearing on all these great shows.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
That's good. That's exciting though, good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
No, I'm excited about it, true, No joking aside. Yeah,
looking forward to getting out there. And I'm meeting that crew. Yeah,
and in fact, with small Town Monsters, we have Heather
Moser will be a speaker at our conference, so along
with the old Brent be a featured guest. That's going
to be a great event, everybody. I know, we've been

(01:21:05):
promoting it since December, but i'll tell you what. It's
taken off. The ghost Hunts sold out. One of the
hotels close by is close to capacity, So get your
tickets now. An event, right, it's going to be, as
text says in as Little it Tro extro video that
we've been running, I tell you what, joking aside, it

(01:21:28):
might be one of the best events to come out
in a long time featuring UFO, Paranormal ENCRYPTID speakers. And
it's a two day event. So so yeah, everybody, you
got to check that out if you're in the area.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Yeah, there's still tickets. There's still tickets left for the
meet and greet. There's still vendors tables left, and they
decided since the ghost Hunt sold out so quick, they're
doing two ghost tours on Saturday during the day for
the museum and those tickets are so available. We have

(01:22:04):
a gallery reading after the conference, which is being done
by Maryland bast with Pair with the Normal, which is
one of our sponsors, and also Doug hot Check is
one of our sponsors.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Also Doug Check Yes of a Monster Quest. In fact,
Doug will be joining me at christ To next Tuesday.
He'll be entering the Beyond the BMR show on the
channel UH his brain. That'd be a cool show. And
and yeah, and and again, I mean it's haunted, Haunted car.

(01:22:37):
Frankie and Dan'll be bringing a hanted car. So it's
it's in at everybody's appetite, no matter what you follow,
whether it's paranormal, ufo, cryptids, there's be something for everybody.
And uh and while I'll be hanging out there, our
whole crew will be down there talking with you guys,
hanging out and it's gonna be a lot of fun.

(01:22:59):
I'm really looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be a good time. There's
no doubt about that. I'm looking forward to this one.
It's and in fact, I've got a conference at the
end of the month I'll be at in September. Me
and me and UH Monica and Brandy and UH Christal
will be at the Para Con and and well it's

(01:23:23):
actually uh Search Church, Texas, but it's it's right outside
of San Antonio. That shirt, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
What month is that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
That's this month? It's the twenty ninth. Yeah, actually, and
it's put on by the Clean Brothers and this is
gonna be the last time they do it. They're retiring
from the Paramom.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
And yeah, the Clean Brothers. You may know them from
Ghost Lab Lab. Yeah, so you're in the area.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
A great event, Yeah, no, that would be I'm sure
it'll be a big event, especially if you're announcing their retirement,
because all their followers and people that are fans I
guess if you want to use that word, will be
attending it for their last purrise. They say, Brent, welcome

(01:24:17):
back to the show. I know you were doing a
little personal vacation time down to Tennessee what you got
coming up. You're on Today's You'll be on tomorrow right
tomorrow night, Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
It's my first showback. I was going to try to
do one last night, but I ended up having a difficulties,
so I was like, well, I told everybody my first
showback would be Friday, but I was going to sneak
in a surprise show, but it didn't work out that way.
So I'll be going back to my live shows on
Friday and Saturday night right here on YouTube or you know,

(01:24:51):
any number of other streaming platforms like Rumble, Facebook x,
and Twitch. So if you want to my shows live shows,
you can do that. But if you want to catch
my podcasts, which are a different show. The live streams
are very much a variety show, and text comes on
with me Someday Saturdays and joins me. But if you

(01:25:12):
want to catch the podcast, those are more interview based
and those are released on all the podcast platforms every Monday.
So there's and it's a different show, but they're both
called Paranormal Portal, So just look for Paranormal Portal and
you should find me. If you find someone else, let
me know because they got to change your name.

Speaker 1 (01:25:32):
You can also type a big foot michikam Bob yeah
anywhere on the internet in my and I pull up that's.
I guess it's kind of cool if you want, but
it goes right to me, which is so weird. Text
that you found that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to try that after the show.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
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Jerner check him out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Absolutely. Yeah, I've got I've got an interesting interview. I
co host on Sundays with Over on the Southern Yes,
another one. Yeah, and uh, I'm co hosting with with
Selena and you know, helping her get started and everything.
And mm hm you were on the show last week
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
I was sweetheart, I really am for some I met
the lady and very nice, down to earth, very much
a big Foot enthusiast and uh and she's uh yeah,
I liked it. I in fact subscribed to her and
checked out a few of her other shows. I think
you were on one. Didn't you do your document?

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Yeah? Yeah, we had another one of our special guests
that's going to be at the conference as well. Country
music and country music in Bigfoot. It was what the
show's title very interesting hill an OSK guy. Very interesting guy.
This this Sunday, we've got some of you may have

(01:27:14):
seen him in chat Pat Garrett, He's going to come
on and share him and his family's experiences. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
How about Pat care from the wild West? Is it
his ghosts or the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Actually yeah, absolutely yeah, he's the one that shot you
know William Bonnie.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Absolutely well. You never know what to expect. Across the
network is Brent Coin our network of shows, Yah, which
is Tree.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
It is pretty cool. You guys have created a great
family of people working together for you know, helping each
other out and lifting each other up. So I'm just
thrilled to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Yeah, that's what it's all about, man, Guess what it's
all about. Helping out friends, helping friends because it's too
often people are at odds because they're too unfortunately competitive,
and it kind of puts a damper on things. But
our shows are always positive and upbeat. We welcome your
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maybe with Texts on Monday or whatever you've got going

(01:28:54):
on Monday. You have any notable guests or are you
just winging it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Well, I don't think we have a guest per se,
but I know me and Brandy are gonna obviously be there.
We're gonna we're gonna really take a deep dive into
the whole the video that I've got out there, and
of course we'll go back over this audio too because

(01:29:20):
I want her take on it. And of course you
all are more than welcome to join us if you.

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