Brunch with Bigfoot Michigan Rob - Ep 128 - Cryptid Talk With Some Spice

Tex , Brent from the Paranormal Portal and BMR; chew the fat on some Cryptid and Paranormal Adventures.... #bigfootmichiganrob #bigfoot #dogman #paranormal #liveshow 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Yes, those tickets are going fast, Ladies and gentlemen. September
nineteenth and twentieth, The Crossing the Room, Crossing Rum's Conference, Paranormal,
UFOs and Cryptis. I got to tell you our hotel
room we're all staying at that entire your facility is
already booked. So yeah, it's gonna be one hell of

(00:24):
an event. A lot of great future guests and speakers.
We'll all be there. Texts BMR, Brent Thomas is gonna
be there, the Girls, the Blonds and Nbouz, Donnie Daniel Dievo,
Jason McLean. It's gonna be great to get your tickets.
We've got speakers, film screens, a haunted car, We've got

(00:46):
a ghost hunt, Yes we do, so come on down
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the link in the chat room. Thank you so much
for that. If this is your first time here, please
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on YouTube. Brent Tom is sitting in today from Studio

(01:10):
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frequents this afternoon show. A couple of times a month.
Thanks to Brent, We've also got to subscribe to the
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Assays to Paranormal Paul prt Gest And of course I
think Jason McLean is back with the Seal Papers. He's

(01:35):
out there. He'll be my future guest Saturday night when
all my friends aren't another conference. It won't be me
and the girls, and sometimes tax will be me and Jason.
And it's gonna be a hell of a show that
I'm setting up for Jason. He's going to get a
kick out of it. So tune in Saturday night at eleven.

(01:56):
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(02:58):
chair room. So off of that, we're gonna get out
with the show. I don't bring up my buddy Sacks.
What's helping me?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
My man? Hey, man, man, oh man, go. I'm headed
the head of the San Antonio tomorrow. I'll get to
see you Eddie and Jin again. Yes, yes, looking forward
to Me and Nick are going Nick Shannessy is my

(03:31):
travel partner for the weekend, and get to hook up
with Ryan and Josh and of course the girls and Monica.
It's gonna be a good trip.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Man. Yeah, I wish I was invited to this one,
but hey, you know, I guess I'm always did want
you to go. Yeah, I know, I know Sanaton. If
I was a San Antoni, I'd go down to Dirty
Nelly's right on the river walk.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I'm gonna go. You know what I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Go, Yes, please do. I spend eight hundred dollars in
there in two days.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna I will go
and I will have a drink at what is nasty.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Jerny Dilly right on the corner right out there. You
can't miss it.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
You know what, I'll go, I'll go have a beer
you like it, and I'll tell I'll tell Nelly that
that you're thinking about her?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Please do? Yeah, if she's still around, I was. The
last time I was there was like twelve years fifteen
years ago.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I bet she still remembers you.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
She has to remember me started karaoke in the bar,
seeing Irish songs, which I had no clue what I
was singing. It was. It's all a blur. Today, when
I got home and I looked at my visa car bill,
I said, what the hell did I do? Spend an
eight hundred dollars in two days? I had to buy
drinks from the entire bar. I guess for three straight
hours and didn't realize it. Tell hell, no, no, no, yeah,

(04:52):
I'm going to I was also married at the time.
I was in the dog house doghouse for a couple
of months. Oh, I bet you were. Yeah, it was terrible.
It was terrible. But we also have another great guest
we're not really guess he's not kind of the co host,
but a friend of ours who also be at our conference,
mister Thomas from the Paranormal Portal.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
What's happening, man, I'm just thrilled to be here.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Brother.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
I'm just uh. I haven't been able to make it
for the last few times that you've offered, and so
I was really pumped to get back in here and
and be a part of the team.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I love I love being included.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I do include you, especially, you know, I just get you.
And I have no guests, then I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
It's like the bottom of the Mayo jar when you're.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Call no one's coming on. You know. Last week, you guys,
I gotta tell you, guys, doctor Dean Bertram was on.
He's a smart guy and he used to be a
featured speaker. We had such a great show. You guys,
must not must not, must not like UFOs and stuff

(05:57):
because you gotta go check that show. I was probably
one of my lower watch shows. And I'm gonna admitt
it right and say right now that it was a
fantastic show, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Text Oh man, it always is, would they?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah? You guys so pactful of knowledge. You've got to
film out. He's been promoting the last several months. And
the guy is a wealth of knowledge, especially in the
you know, there's a bunch about Cryptis, but his forte
is uphology and all the mysteries in the other worlds.
So yeah, fantastic show. Check it out, show them some love.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
So yeah, maybe maybe maybe you should. Maybe we should
retoddle the show.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I think I did, and it picked up a little bit. Yeah,
I actually did. I went back, you know, great minds
thinking like texts. I retitled it made it a little
more spicy. Yeah. So so Brett, Yeah, you were gone
for Uh, I haven't seen a couple of weeks. What

(07:00):
you got going on of late? How's Idaho? That weather
breaking for you? Yet you still got snow on the ground.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
No, it was seventy yesterday. I actually had my shorts
on and flip flops and the T shirt and I
was in my happy place. Thanks for asking, But unfortunately
it's going to get rainy and wet. And cooler now
for the next week and a half anyway, but I
felt that I got to experience it again, which is
how I like to live.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, you know, I did a couple of days ago,
was seventy degrees and I put down some weed killer,
and then it's been thirty degrees the last two nights.
So I just went on online and I said, will
we didn't feed work when it gets cold out? They
said no. So I wasted twenty dollars on that application.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
Oh no, it's just call it a rehearsal.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
It is.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
It has been in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
And rapped. We just mute that guy. Yeah, you know,
a little bit of with a little bit of rain here, and.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I planted. I planted my garlic, my red onions, my
white onions, my yellow onions, and my shallots.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
I got sprouts all over the place. I mean, you know,
do what is there salsa in the future?

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Is that what this is for?

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Uh huh? Salsa chili? You know, yeah, quite a bit
of stuff. Yeah, So I'm really looking forward to getting
to because I don't put any like chemical stuff or
anything in the dirt. It's just dirt and water. If
it grows, it don't grow, you know whatever. So but yeah, man,

(08:49):
they are, yeah, really popping up.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
I got a house full of seeds starts all over
this place because missus Portle loves gardening and she got
started extra earlier this year. So now we're nursing all
these little sprouts all over the place and every nook
and cranny because she can't wait to get out there
and plant them. But that's that's her happy place.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
See miss Textboy and she she uh, she's a she's
a flower planting.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
You know, yep, freaking flowers.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
All over the place.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I raised flower beds and what does she call it?
An English cottage garden flower garden like that?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
H it's.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Little light up mushrooms, fairy lights and wow she goes,
you know, flowers and baskets and and I planted a
uh planted a tree the other day.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
So wow, Rob, you should be starting a new channel,
the Gardening with big Foot Michigan.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well, you know, I actually we do talk a lot
of gardening on this show. Actually, I'm a big gardener.
I just turned over my dirt my garden. But every
year I do a big garden, and I also do
flowers myself every year. I dude, I do like nice flowers,
you know, And I don't think it's uh. I don't

(10:26):
think you have to turn in your man card if
you like flowers. I like. I like nice flowers. My
problem is I'm trying to get them to grow back
the next year. I always get perennials and annuals confused
because to me, an annual to me suggests it comes
back annually. But it's the opposite. It's the perennial, which

(10:47):
is I guess perennial every year they come back. For
all the years I've been doing it, I finally figured
it out. Of course, Monica was telling me. Monica is
a big gardener. To Monica rawlins, so she said, me,
a bunch of plants that I can put into this
spring that will come back.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
So she's so it's so funny because when she was
last time she went out to Brown Springs with me,
we went, we went driving around and really for the
sole purpose too, for her to pick up plants because

(11:25):
she loves native She loves doing native plants. Right, So
I'm stopping on the side of the road every five minutes. Oh,
I don't have that one. I gotta go with that
when she'll get seapods or bridge or whatever. You know.
So I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, so that's
what she does, you know, but I got I kind

(11:47):
of made her jealous because for some reason she's having
a hard time getting with steria to go and I
can't get rid of it. I mean it is I've
got I've got with stereo all along every side of
the fence. It's just covered in mystery. Of the trees

(12:09):
behind the house have a sterea forty feet up in it.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I mean it's just oh but anyway, it's impressed. It's
really impressive text that you've got that from man that
I tell you why. It's gotta be hard as hell
to grow stuff in Texas with the heat. No, just
you have to. I mean you got a water continually.

(12:34):
I imagine.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Well, there's certain plants and certain flowers that do well here,
just like that do well up you know where y'all
are at, you know, So I mean we can't grow
icicles down here, y'all can.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Oh god, we can make swords and everything. Yeah, weapons,
I have weapons because they come off my AUNTI in
the winter. Yeah, spears, right, friend, and it's so strange.
Of course, Michigan isn't uh the only state that suffered
a whole weird climate change. This happens in every state.

(13:11):
But long past or the days where I could build
igloos as a kid, which I love, you know. And
now it doesn't snow on Christmas Day. It rains. You
get all of our snow end of January through middle February,
and we'll get an occasional snowing in March, but it's
not like Christmas time. It's not early January, you know,

(13:35):
It's just it's and again I do I don't miss
the three feet of snow what we used to get,
but I like to get something once in a while.
Like I was telling text, I got rid of my
snowblower about many years ago. And then this past year
that we did have a big like two foot dumping
and it took me like five hours just to do

(13:57):
my driveway. It's like one out of time, you know.
And it was all that heavy snow seen times, you know.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, that's no fun.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
And then of course people who dropped out a heart
attacks m I mean really on the news because we
haven't got that much snow. Yeah, people a lot of
people out of shape or whatever, and they that's a
taxing job. It's it's it's taxing.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, you know, especially if it's wet and heavy. The
light fluffy stuff, no problem. But that that sloppy, like
almost slushy snow. That stuff's like throwing bricks.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Oh yeah, we get it. Sew light sometimes that you
can take your your blower you know have and just
blow it.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yep, yep, amen.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
We uh, we don't get snow so much. We get
when we get we get ice.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, so we're not necessarily showing anything. We're scriping and melting.
That's what we end up doing.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
So yeah, I hear you. It's again here. Today's in
the fifties, so hopefully another week and we'll be continually
in the sixties, which would be nice. So because I'm
I'm ready to get out there and start doing my
work I like to do so. So I was thinking
I didn't know what you know. We was talking on

(15:22):
cryptis Paranormal, and I was thinking, you guys, I always
like Friday nights. Now I've been doing encounter story shows
for emails I've gotten, and that's a long show. It's
like ninety minutes and every story is like twenty minutes
long and stuff, which is cool. It's a nice flow
for the show. And for the last two and a

(15:43):
half three years text, you know, there's maybe not so much, Brent.
I do advertise some of your stories or your encounters,
and I've got a lot of long ones that have
been incorporating a couple of the books, and I'll do
on a show. But I always have these three to
five minutes quick equips that I don't know what to

(16:03):
do with it. I mean, I'm not gonna do a
show with them because they're just too short, and I'm
not gonna discuss twenty of them. That makes that's kind
of boring. So I decided to pick and choose what
to do with these. So I figured, well, you know what,
shows like this, it'd be kind of cool and maybe
on Saturday night to go through some of the ones

(16:25):
that I haven't revealed and it's a three or five
minute read, and then I could then we can just
sit around and give our thoughts about it. I thought
maybe for today because I got a cool one from
a dog Man one and a big Bigfoot one and
I like these because it's a lot of A lot
of them are the same yet different because I'm all

(16:47):
about the data. So as text, Brent, You're probably going
to stay lines. The more and more you hear these
things is just more affirmation or confirmation of certain things,
right sure, So so yeah, I fear we'll start to
show with that today. Then we can move on to
other things and whatever. So I didn't bother to memorize them.

(17:07):
I usually memorize the long ones to be more conversational,
but this I'm just gonna read them really quick and
then we can just kind of shoot. The fattest text
will say thanks for everybody for coming on in. If
you're new, please subscribe to our channels. Paran Old Portal
Texas from a Portion of Course Bigfoot Mischaron Blonza Booze YouTube.

(17:28):
This is an encounter and experience sent to me by
this guy in Knob State Forests of Kentucky about a
bigfoot encounter he had. And again, these are kind of short,
so we can get through them a kind of chit
chat about them, and he goes out. He writes a
pretty cool little email to me. He goes it was
a sunny day of this autumn in the autumn afternoon

(17:48):
in Knob State Forests in Kentucky. My son and I
had just finished setting up our campsite and that was
time for hike down the trail approximately twenty yards from camp.
At this time, my son I was sixteen years old,
and he was disappointed that his mother and I had
decided to divorce. We needed this time to talk together,

(18:09):
to talk. At roughly twenty minutes into the hike, my
son says to me, Hey, Dad, how come this tree
is upside down? I was thinking to myself, what does
he mean by this upside down? After kind of questioning him,
he pointed to a tree that was literally upside down.

(18:31):
The tree seemed to be pulled from the ground, with
the bulbous roots, which were at least twelve feet in length,
were sprawling towards the sky, and what was supposed to
be the tree top the tree shop was again firmly
jammed into the ground several feet. I did not have
an explanation, as I had never seen this in all

(18:54):
of my years hunting and camping in the woods. This
was not an act of Mother nature, and it looked
as though somebody or something had done this. There was
no sign of heavy excavation equipment surround the area, and
in fact the tree seemed to be fresh, as if
this was done very recently. Upon walking back to camp,

(19:15):
this this had eerily been implanted into my mind, he says,
I should have What in the world could have done this?
I pondered aloud. He says, nighttime had fallen, and my
son and I had a blazing campfire roaring, and I
had gotten into a deep discussion about why mom and
Dad had decided to parro ways. Then, in an instance,

(19:38):
a large tree branch at least seven feet long, with
an assortment of connecting appendages, came sprawling from the tree line,
slamming hard into our well lit fire. Embers and fires
splashed about the camp site. Thankfully, the fire did not spread.
The glow of the fire and embers were red hot

(19:58):
and smoldering as my son and I haphazardly stopped on
the coals or the burning stems an attempt to extinguish them.
That it seemed close. A large grunt emanated from the
tree line. It reminded me of a wild hog or
a boar. However, the depth of the vocalization was not

(20:21):
that of either animal. The fire numbers were ablaze. This
helped to cast a shadow from the tree line. At
this tree line, a shadowy figure that seemed to be
as tall as the trees ominously stood in the foreground.
I thought aloud, what a creepy shadow. Then in an
instant I recognized this was not a shadow. Two yellow

(20:45):
saucer shaped eyes appeared roughly ten feet from the ground.
I thought I was seeing things until those eyes they
blinked not once, but twice, perhaps even a third time.
In an instant from those eyes, a four foot by
three foot tree stump came hurtling from the direction, landing

(21:05):
several feet from our camp. Again, it caused no harm,
but it had my son in tears, and I felt
fear for my son and myself. When I look back
into the tree line for those eyes, they were gone.
It was bad enough that I had to tell my
son about mom and dad, but tonight this did not

(21:26):
help one bit. What do you think? This was signed
by John of Kentucky, So it was kind of interesting, eh?

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah, I mean, clearly it sounds like a bigfoot's encounter.
But in regards to the upside down trees, and I
don't know anything about logging and all of that, But
I have heard some people suggest that sometimes logging companies
will insert trees upside down to as a marker of sorts,

(22:01):
and I don't know that that's true or not true.
I've just heard that mentioned before, So I'm not saying
it's not possibly bigfoots related, but it is at least
a question mark in my mind is like why would
bigfoot do that? But because it's not a real, real
common thing, but it does come up that people find
these upside down trees. So but have you guys heard

(22:25):
of that that it may be a marker from logging?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I have not. Okay, In fact, I was just going
to say that was the first time I've ever heard
that or even mentioned. But that's something we need to
look into for sure.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, I mean, obviously they had enough other activity to
suggest that. Well, you know, the logging company wasn't throwing
tree stumps and big branches at their fire, so obviously
the yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
But and again, but the person also noted that they
didn't see any evidence of any big equipment sure being honest,
So there's that.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, Yeah, I haven't heard that either, Brents, you know, texts,
and I guess to a point, meme where when it
comes and this wasn't really a structure, you know we
talked about I've heard about the xes, especially on the
big exes, like I've heard people suggest that that's a
big Foot, it's a directional piece, or it's a it's

(23:31):
to ward off other clans of Bigfoot, that hey, this
is our territory. I've heard things like that. We've all
I've heard about the bulbous ends of the roots be
just uplifted and pulled out of the ground. But I
got to tell you this, I don't even know if
excavation equipment. I mean for the tree tops, and we

(23:52):
all know tree tops at the top they're like thin branches,
and certainly they get thicker. But then to be just
jammed into the ground like that, right with that force
and they have the roots that the heavy part of
the tree is upside down. I imagine the tree top
has to be embedded very deeply into the ground. And
to your point, where into text with no equipment. Why

(24:14):
would they logging industry do that As a marker, I
figured that maybe painted tree with their maybe their company
logo or something. I don't know. I'm not a logger.
I don't know what they do, but I find it interesting.
I'm just glad that when these the big trees and
the tree some was thrown from the tree line, that

(24:38):
it didn't hit these guys, which always brings up the point,
do you think these bigfoot they know what they're doing
and they have this precise their their their precision and
placing things like rocks was thrown at me didn't hit me.
You think they are just this accurate and this athletic

(25:00):
if you will, and strong, or they know exactly what
they're doing just to get you to flee out of
there a warning. Here's what I think. Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I think that's probably you know, stone throwing is probably
one of the one of the ways they hunt. You know,
I don't I don't see why. I mean, if you
got a postable thumst, why wouldn't you Yeah, right, So, yeah,
I think they're very accurate with what they do. I mean,

(25:33):
we we've we've had so many near misses. When does
it And it's like I always say, when does it
quit being a coincidence? You know, because we we've had them,
we've had them throw just little pebbles through the trees

(25:54):
at us, right, Yeah, And now I do know.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Squirrels will throw stuff at you. I get that. Okay,
I've had that happen. Hang on one moment. Squirrels throwing
stuff at you. Oh yeah, I've got a million in
my yard. I've never had an encounter with a squirrel
throwing things at me.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, they will throw stuff at you, nuts and stuff
like that if you're invading their territory. You know, the
difference is when a squirrel's throwing something at you, it's

(26:37):
coming from this way, you know, And like I said,
they're nuts that type of thing. Even birds, some birds
will chunk, you know, you know, drop stuff on you. Right,
So but these pebbles that were being thrown, you could
see them arching this way through the tree. So yeah,

(27:05):
you know, that's the kind of ruled that out.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
But it really really briefly text and continue on. But
I won't bring a Rogers point right quick. Most logging
outfits I know here in eastern Kentucky. Of course this
was in Kentucky. The story will paint neon marker or
use Neon ribbons on a tree for boundary markers. So
that's thanks Roger for that.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, now Pop said he he said that was a marker,
you know, sticking a tree upside down. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
I'm not a lawyer, you know, Yeah, but yeah, nor
am I. But I just thought it was interesting that,
you know, some people attribute that kind of thing to
potentially logging, But it doesn't mean that it's exclusively only
logging companies that would do that, I do. I do
think it's probably very that Bigfoot do it as well.

(28:02):
And maybe the distinction is if a tree is upside
down in the middle of a bunch of other trees
where no heavy equipment could get in there, well that's
a pretty big tell, you know, if there's no other
logging going around.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, I would have to imagine that would really be
something to see, especially the way you just painted that picture. Brunt,
You're in the forest, one tree out of place, upside
down and planted into the ground. It makes one wonder
and you know, you can't get equipment back there, and

(28:37):
the three of us and twenty other guys could not
even accomplish that task. Oh yeah, not at all. No.
Texa goes back to your theory about the gorilla strength,
right of what the tonnage that they can help actually
exhibit with their strength, Because to pull a tree out
of the ground uproot it you guys. I mean, that's

(29:00):
to me unbelievable, to be honest, but we hear about
these quite often though.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, I just know how hard it is to pull
up some freaking weeds that are like, you know, a
quarter inch around and I'm straining with all of my
might to get them out of the ground. And then
you think of a tree, which the root system is
pretty comparable to the crown of the tree that's above ground.
So like when you get a big oak spread out,

(29:30):
that's kind of equivalent to the way the roots are underground.
So man, how much force is that?

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well, you know, And another thing that's odd, all these
these pictures that I've seen of this stuff, right, yeah,
the root ball is almost completely free and dirt.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, So it's to do that, that's all that has
to be personal. I mean, you're somebody something, or somebody's
ripping this tree out of the ground, cleaning the root
ball up and then sticking upside down.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, probably smacking it on the ground or something.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah yeah, yeah, dragging it about the forest, you know,
and just yeah, that's cool. Point text that's now you
mentioned that they're always cleaned off.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, and maybe it's a weathering thing too, like if
it rains, it would probably. But you know, I gotta
admit when I've seen you know, I go out and
mushroom hunt with the misses and stuff, and when a
tree is knocked over, I mean there's a huge divid
in the ground and the roots ball is there intact
like this huge you know mass, And so you're right,

(30:48):
it is very peculiar that there would be like no
no material on it.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
You know, we have all seen trees getting dead, trees
knocked over into forest. It's almost like I could see
a bunch of guys who maybe literally push one over them.
But in this encounter or report, the ex mention was
it was a newer tree. I mean it was fresh limbs.
It wasn't suggesting it was dead or anything. Wasn't suggesting weather.

(31:18):
I mean, the weather wouldn't do that anyway. A tornado
could rip one out, but it's not going to plant
in the ground. Well it might, I mean he could
show a hundred yards with the forest and velosity and
perhaps I.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Guess, well, I've just seening tornadoes do some much some
much peculiar crap. But yeah, that would be like one
of the least weird things I've seen happen. I mean, honestly,
you know, because I've seen I've seen sheds picked up
and put on top of people's barns. You know, I've
seen stuff wrapped around other stuff. It's just, you know,

(31:55):
and when you start talking about these different things that
we're kind of touched on it on the show the
other night, these big famous tornadoes. There's whiskey bottles that
are you know, with that have a cork and of
course they have the you know, the wrapping around it
that seals the bottle, you know, so you can make
sure nobody's opening. But there's debris in the bottle and

(32:17):
the corks still intact.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Oh really yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah. And there's been telephone poles with a piece of
straw driven through the middle of it. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Air pressure, folks, I.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Mean, it does weird things, weird things and stuff that
we don't understand.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
You know.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
There there's been tornadoes that are so powerful they suck
the they stuck the pavement off of the ground. Okay,
so very well could very well could do this, But
the damage that would be around these areas where this

(33:02):
is done. You know, but that might be something we
could look into where there, you know, maybe we could
find the locations, find out locations of this phenomenon and
look in the surrounding area and see if there was
any big tornadoes. Because the only way I think that
that could tornado would do that and wouldn't the whole

(33:23):
area wouldn't be devastated is if it happened like a
few miles away and it was spit out by the tornado.
You know, it went sailing like a yard dark, you know,
lawn dark.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
You know, would you know it's possible. Is it probable? No,
but it's possible. I am not to change subjects. I don't.
But when you mentioned about the tornado is really briefly
it's on Netflix. I just watched this the other day
about people that it were caught up inside of a tornado,

(34:01):
were flung this, that and the other, and there was
like five or six great stories. Well not great for
the individuals, but you know for the series. There was
this young man he was back when he was like
in his late teens, and they got hit with this
tornado and they're outside, they were driving their truck and

(34:23):
they they all got their truck got turned over and
they all were flung out of the truck and the
one kid was hanging on to his friends and the
tornado was getting ready to lift him. And in this documentary,
the young man felt like a million of razor blades
were just tearing his body and that he lost grip

(34:47):
of his friends and he got flung up into the
tornado and he was literally spinning in the tornado in
this Netflix documentary, and he landed maybe fifty yards from
the guys, and the friends went to find him, and
the sheer wind speed of it when they found their friend,

(35:07):
and they show and he showed his body. This kid
in this documentary, he went through the whole thing, the wind,
the speed of the wind, and all the debris. Literally
when they see their friend, his entire chest cavity was open,
exposed his heart and everything.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Oh geezh.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Now the guy survived miraculously. Now they showed his body.
I mean, the poor guy is deformed but alive. And
and I just said, boy, I can't imagine. I can't imagine.
As horrible as that is, okay.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
About to get worse, I think.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
No, no, no, I'm going I'm I'm paying this back
on on on topic.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Because I did.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I did some searching when you were talking about, you know,
the guy getting his heart ripped out by the man,
and this is really strange. I've never heard this, but
there is the legend of the upside down trees or
forest in Alaska, so it says there is a there.

(36:24):
This got a little link to us. Y'all bear with me.
There's a magical quality about Alaska's vast wilderness that is
unmassed in the lower forty eight with towering glaciers and
crystal clear runoff caribou and moose wondering around. Okay, blah
blah blah blah, it's hard not to feel the inspiration. Okay,
and Juno, you will find the upside down forest of

(36:46):
glacier gardens.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Picture trees that look like they've been flipped and slammed
back into the earth, now filled with blooms in their
upturned roots. Castading vice hang down, colorful flowers hang from
the top technically bottom of trees and manicured gardens will
make you feel stepped into a fantasy work. How did
these incredible, unique trees get here? And was it nature

(37:14):
or something more sinister? And mythological like creating the upside
down for us. Now, it says the lower of Bigfoot.
These trees appear to have been plucked from the ground,
flipped upside down with the roots facing skyward. Legend says
the Bigfoot himself turned these trees, turned these trees in
order to replace a tree back into the ground up

(37:37):
to five feet deep, the depth of many of these
trees reside at It would take an incredible amount of strength.
Could Bigfoot really be that strong? It turns out that no,
Bigfoot was not responsible for flipping these trees, at least
the upside down trees in Alaska.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
The jury is still.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Out on the other upside down trees found in Canada, Colorado,
and other parts of North America. So maybe Bigfoot was
not around when these trees. When these flip flop trees
were created, So where did they actually come from? Do
they grow like that? Or have they really been turned

(38:19):
upside down? The true story is that a devastating nineteen
eighty four Juno landslide, many trees were uprooted and one
of the main streams in the area was destroyed. So

(38:40):
let's see Steve Yard, doctor Boway was rebuilding the stream,
he damaged some moving equipment. In his frustration, he used
the machine to pick up a tree stump and flip
it upside down in the mud. It was after that
that Boway saw an opportunity to replant these trees upside
down and turn the roots into flower beds.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Today, but this is only one spot. Today these trees
sit in the men Menden Hall Glacier gardens with pogonias
and petunias and everything growing out of them. Of the
of the root balls that are sticking up in the air.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
So that's yeah, So that that explains.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Part of it.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I guess I don't. I didn't even consider landslides or
are like avalanches.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's so I like doing
these little topics because you know, that makes sense. I
never would have thought of that soil you just came
across that. That makes perfect sense. It's the power of
a landslide.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, but I mean down south. But we see we
even have them down south though, yeah, and on occasion,
and and we I mean do we have landslides, absolutely,
but not that cover miles and miles and miles of

(40:12):
terrain like y'all do up north from the mountains, right
ours a little bitty landslides, you know, because we don't
have big we have hills, we don't have mountains, you know,
and it wouldn't explain why this thing, why these things
happening relatively flat ground. Yeah, that so that takes that out.

(40:37):
But so I don't know, it's a weird phenomenon. Maybe
it's something we can dive deeper into. You know.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
It's definitely something to take a look at. And just like, well,
I'm like, can you go there? But yeah, boot doock
Mojo says, the Juno thing is BS carry out For
one second, guys, okay, I right there, go.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Do you think.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Aback a back?

Speaker 2 (41:12):
He's always every time when I log on here, he's
changed my damn logo to his.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
That's funny. I gotta if I turn off my I
don't have any logo. So there you go.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
You need to fix it.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
So Big One says, I've just called some logging companies
and they said they do not turn trees upside down.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Sure, yeah I don't.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I don't thank you. Nine one one. That was awesome
for you to.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Do, man, Yeah that was very proactive. Jeez. Yeah, that's
outstanding and it's good information. I mean, I didn't think
it was I didn't think it was a common practice.
I just heard that it was done, and and I
don't I don't. Again, I don't pretend to know anything
about logging other than some witnesses I've talked to. But yeah,

(42:07):
I just have no clue. So very cool though, And.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
See, that's why we have the greatest audiences, greatest audience.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Out there, because they do stuff like this. You know.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
It's it's always really cool because the audiences always bring
so much to the table. You know, it's really nice
that they participate and uh and and contribute to the conversation.
So you guys rock.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Very cool.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
And again, if you've heard anything about this phenomenon, reasons
for it, I mean, I mean, we all know about
you know, the suppose alleged bigfoot, because at this point
it's all we can take. It is alleged because that
I know of, nobody's ever actually seen a bigfoot do this, right,

(42:57):
so it is alleged that a bigfoot. So leave a
comment after the show with any ideas of or or
if you heard of anything that does this, you know,

(43:18):
or that causes this phenomenon.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
This one's kind of cool too. This is a different one,
but Diane says, some luggers here in Forks, Washington stack
big rocks on top of each other after they log
an area. I camped out a week a week watching
my ex husband and his crew log and it was
cool watching them. So I didn't know that either. So
I guess you know, if you see these huge piles
of rocks, maybe that is a logging practice as well.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
HM. Speaking of cleanup crew, I had to excuse myself
to unlock my front fence because my spring cleanup crew
has arrived to do my I don't do my spring stuff.
I let them do it. My buddy has this little company,
he said, throw him a couple of bucks. I unlock
the front gate because Texas, you know, we got all
the roaming critters. I like to go through the yard,

(44:10):
especially this time of year, so I always keep it locked.
My fence is easy to open. But that's a good
point there. Diane brings up interesting, very interesting.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah, moonduc Mojo, which is Cory. Y'all, y'all go check
his channel out. I he's fixing it just he's fixing
to really ramp it up. He's lining some things up.
He wants to get his ducks in a roll be
where he really starts its channel. But he says, text,
I was uh. I asked my buddy, who owns a
timber company in textra Cano, when I was researching this

(44:46):
a couple of years ago, when he saw the photo
I sent you. He was like, oh, hell, now did
you send me?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yes? You did.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Okay, so I will, Well, we'll use that photo for
another show, because he texted me too.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, you could do that later. You put that on
the front porch or whatever you want to do. Text.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Well, what I'm saying is maybe what we can do
is continue this conversation either your channel, my channel, branch down, whatever,
and we could use that as you know.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Evidence very good I've gotten.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I don't give it.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
I don't know, I don't care your text whatever. But
thanks for sending in the photos, as we always use
them a lot of the shows. So thanks to everybody.
Thanks everybody for coming in. I'm gonna move on. Brance
did you have any final fauts on that little uh
what we've been talking about, that little bigfoot chuncter there.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
That was fantastic. I don't have anything to add.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, I got this other short one that I got
that it's a dog Man in a Wassle WASO Michigan.
So I found it pretty cool because I will be
actually traveling. Yeah, I'm actually doing some traveling, going back
to Wexford area with the small Town Master's Crew. I'll
be taking part in a little documentary my uh where

(46:25):
I had my encounter is gonna be a dog Man special.
They're gonna release uh in the fall. So yeah, I'm
gonna go. Yeah, I'm gonna go up there for a
couple hours of uh filming and whatever they use with
me they use, I'm sure most of it will be
left on the cutting room floor. I optimistic, I'm kidding,

(46:47):
I just who knows. But yeah, it'll be a lot
of fun with had there in uh what's the other
guy's name, but anyway, breed love. Yeah, So I'll be yeah,
so I'm looking for that in two weeks I'll be
going out there. So this is an OASO which is
kind of close by where I'm gonna be. And this

(47:08):
is a report counter story whatever short one. So yeah,
I'll share this with you guys and we can give
me your take. And this emails guy's all like, he's
all really cool about this other description Rob. The moon
was very bright and the scene and it scened as
I like when I get some you know, creative, you

(47:30):
know describing everything. It's It was very the moon was
very bright. It seemed as if the forest was eerily silent.
From I recently purchased a Wasso home in the fall
of twenty twelve, the foliage of the woods was starting
to turn magnificent in color of the browns, the greens,

(47:51):
yellows of nature were vibrant, and the smell of somebody
burning a fire just before dust prompted me to take
a walk down the trail that was opened just as
the end of my half acre property, leading back into
the wilderness or the forest I exaggerate when I sell
you wilderness. My property is located just outside of the

(48:11):
Devreze Nature Conservatory. The trail starts from a plot of
land connected as a thoroughfare to the conservatory. I found
it comforting to see the moon in the twilight as
nightfall beyond it lit up the trail. As I embarked
on this journey, I always felt secure and relaxed in
the woods. This night, However, after fifteen minutes of hiking

(48:35):
beneath the moon, I began to feel uneasy and could
not put my finger on it until it appeared the
day turned to darkness. It was ready dark with the
moon already half out, with the beautiful moon blazing lighting
up my pathway. The further ahead that I looked, the
moon shine on the pathway dimmed and became less visible. Then,

(48:56):
approximately fifty yards in front of me, directly in the
middle of the trail, some sort of being materialized. I
stopped and I could not believe the size of this
four legged animal. Right away, I thought wolf. This wolf
was coming closer towards me. Frozen in my tracks, my
feet said run, Yet physically I can't run. This beast

(49:19):
on all fours had to stand four foot from the
bottom of the ground to the top of its head.
This can't be a wolf, I thought aloud. Well, my
intuition was correct. As a wolf approached. The four legged
creature arose to two feet and that oversized head exposed
two red eyes that seemed to be in measurement of
at least eight inches apart from side to side of

(49:43):
the head, and this creature like almost doubled in size,
so it appeared. I finally broke free of my hypnotic
trance that I was in. I turned and I ran,
which was a bad idea, as I thought, as most
people should not run for predators. Yeah, okay, I slipped
and fell down frantically. I got back up to my

(50:03):
feet and I looked at the back of me. This
creature was now fifty feet in back of me. I
realized that running would do me no good, as I
was surely poised in my mind for a certain and
imminent death. Then the beast started to de materialize into

(50:24):
a mist and disappear before my eyes. I still can't
believe what I saw that fall day in OASO, signed
Robert J. Rob. What do you think this was? Certainly
did not seem physical in nature yet before a legged
animal did, before it rose up on the two legs

(50:48):
with those red eyes. When we hear less of stories
about dog Man. You guys, they seemed to be some
creature that maybe walks on a different plane, you know,
I mean, they always seem to be more supernatural than physical,

(51:09):
and this kind of whatever this was, I don't know
what's your thoughts on this. This guy's a little encounter.
He sent that over to me, go.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Ahead, text, Oh no, no, I ran it on the
last one. You do it, Brent.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Oh, I thought I ran it a lot the last one.
That's how I was letting you go first.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
This time you both are allowed to rant.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
I don't know, you know, I mean that's the big
question mark. Are these things physical? Are they? I mean,
are they physical? Are they not physical? Are they somewhere
in between? Are they sometimes? I don't know?

Speaker 1 (51:43):
If we backed up just a moment, this guy's presentation
is the report little right up that he sent on
over Can we agree or disagree? He saw something, just
unaware of what it was.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Yeah, sure, yeah, I think yeah, clearly he saw something
and it clearly looked physical. And again there there again
is the big question mark.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (52:07):
How is it possible something that can be extraordinarily physical
and manifest can be also intangible or go intangible and invisible.
And that's I mean, it comes up in every every
body of discussion, whether it's UFOs, cryptids, ghosts, et cetera, Like,

(52:27):
these things appear as physical as anyone else you would
run into, and then they suddenly aren't. And I don't know,
it makes me it really, it really cooks my bacon
because I try to at least conceptualize some of this
and try to understand it. But that's getting into that

(52:48):
weird place where we just don't know anything, you know,
So it's hard. I mean, I believe the guy saw
what he saw. I believe he experienced exactly what he
says he experienced. I just I don't know how to
quantify it. I don't know what to do with it
because it's just full of these unknowns. Yeah, I mean
it's fascinating, though.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I think it's fast. I agree too. I do think
it's fascinating that, you know, first of all, people take
the time of send these on over to most of
us all the time. And the thing that I always
go back to and refer back to if I'm just
trying to be uh, I know what the word is, pragmatic.
I guess a lot of these whether we have fifty

(53:35):
of them, a thousand of them, it doesn't matter. They
all have that same common element, especially when we're talking
about an alleged dog man creature. Yeah, something that's metaphysical
versus like physical. You know, most of them, some are
just a creature that appears to be a dog that
happens to be walking, you know text We always get

(53:57):
and talk to people that you know, what the dog man.
There's so many different variations, I guess, or different descriptions
we've gotten. You got the basic the German shepherd with
hot legs, walking with an oversized head of a German shepherd,
and you can tell and it's thin, it's not robust.

(54:18):
And then he got the ones that have human like legs,
bodybuilder types. Were wolf suggested it as a were wolf
for something else. You know, we've all heard the stories
about dog Man's soldiers. We've all heard about Hey, these
things were created in a laboratory. It's an experiment gone bad.

(54:39):
I don't know a shape a priscion, shape shifting when
you talk, Unlike Bigfoot, it's either a black or white.
You either believe it. You're in the APOR camp or
the WU camp, or in between. I should say paranormal
supernatural camp. I believe both for that. But this you
just don't know where to go with it because it's
all varied and different. What's a werewolf, what's a dog man?

(55:01):
What's the shape shifter? How are they related? How are
they not? But they all that commonality that they're not
they don't appear to be physical. Yeah, for the most part.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
You know, well, the fact is we don't know. I mean,
I think there's a different phenomenon going on out there,
that's y'all. Y'all know that I believe what I saw,
you know, in terms of a dog man's physical but

(55:41):
when you hear reports like this one, but I think
that's where where the supernatural aspect comes into things, because yeah,
there's nothing, there's nothing out there that's there's nothing outter
it says we can't have both. You know, it's not

(56:02):
going against a set of rules that you know, it
has to be this way or this way. I mean,
we're we're we're, for lack of a better term, we're
creating this these these these rules as we go according uh,
you know, with this phenomenon, because we're discovering as we go.

(56:26):
And I don't think there's any one answer.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Right, But but you're right, people do end up being
very binary. It's like flesh and blood or or you know, spiritual.
It's but there's there's any number of possibilities sort of
middle ground there. It's just yeah, we just have these
encampments of opinion, you know, based upon you know, people
that probably don't have enough information. None of us do

(56:55):
to really know.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Even those of us that have seen these things, you know,
be it a blessing or a curse or a mix.
We have our got feelings, we have what are what
you know, what we what, we feel, what we believe,
But we don't have any you know. It's just like
that this, this guy's encounter is just as anecdotal as mine. Yeah,

(57:23):
you know so. But what I don't understand when it
comes to these things, and even if they're metaphysical, they
are able evidently to affect the physical world. And that's
nothing new when we start talking about the poultrygist aspect

(57:45):
of things and that type of thing. I mean, look
at what happened to me just recently. I was something
grabbed my pants leg.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Yeah, but the crawler, yeah, whatever the hell it was,
I don't. I don't see crawler. That's the only thing
I've seen out there that looks like what I saw.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
I don't. That's why I can't get into one camp
or together because I don't know, and I'm not going
to pretend to know. I know what I feel, I
know what I believe, I know what my opinion is,
and it's just like buttholes. I have one male stak, you.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
Know what, I find fascinating and kind of Duke brought
up something I had I had pulled up there about
the government creating these dog maned soldiers, which he believes in.
And I got to tell you, I've gotten two or
three over the years. People talk to me about how

(58:45):
they a person was part of an underground lab dumb
if you will, were they actually researched genetics, manipulation and
they created they didn't say dog the werewolf, but humanoids
that they were released into the national state parks and forests,

(59:07):
which is a whole different subject. They're just talking about
whether we're deciding something's physical or metaphysical. Right, this is
something a whole another ball of wax. It continues to
make a big cluster f out of it with these
things being created genetically and experimented and for whatever reason

(59:32):
being released. You I mean, I think this happens. I
wouldn't put it past it that something like this happens.
Now we're cloning you know, human beings, right, We're cloning
you know, goats. Why not the creature to be released

(59:52):
you know or a failed experiment and they get they
break in, or they escape. I don't know, there's so
many scenarios. So what's your guys' thoughts on that? Do
you guys think that maybe, yeah, things are being experimented with.
Whether it's a dog man or whether it's a fly,
a different type of flying squirrel, it doesn't matter. These
things are being done probably daily.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Right, Oh yeah, I mean, God knows what's going on
behind closed doors in this world.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
I mean, everything's certainly on the table. I don't think
there probably was ever a conscious choice made, going, well,
we kind of made a mess out of this, let's
just put it in the national park somewhere. I don't
think that they're probably released as much as maybe they
couldn't be contained, you know, whatever they are, if that
is the scenario. But I you know, I have actually

(01:00:46):
one of my X files theories about these cryptids and
about the pushback against the possibility of them being around
by the established sciences and maybe even governmental forces is
and this is way out there. Forgive me, folks, but
I'm just going to put it on the table. It's
that there's apparently international treaties and stuff regarding genetic testing

(01:01:09):
and stuff, and ever since at least World War Two.
We know that Hitler was trying to come up with
a super soldier. We know that the same thing was
going on in Russia following that, and you can bet
if they were doing it, we were doing it too.
But with the formation of international treaties where it's oh,
there's no animal human testing allowed, which you know, I

(01:01:31):
think is probably probably true. But what I'm going to
say is that what if that being doesn't officially exist,
then there's no no, there's no guidelines regarding that. Well,
there's no bigfoot, there's no bigfoots. They can't exist, they're
not real. Meanwhile, in a lab, you know, the splicing

(01:01:55):
is happening and stuff, because it falls into a gray
area of sorts, it doesn't actually exists, so there's no
laws guiding that. So maybe that's part of the pushback,
and maybe those experiments continue. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
I'm just putting it out there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Do I do I really believe that? Hell, I don't know,
but it just has occurred to me. So what do
you guys think?

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Okay, on the surface, I'm going to agree with Okay,
if I go in a little deeper. I'm still going
to agree with you, but I'm out. I'm going to
put this out there too. Cares what fd they put out?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
They don't care. They don't, they don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
That's why there's black sites, so they can do stuff
that is off the books that you know. So I
just bottom line is I don't trust the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Government at all.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
But what you know, because there's been so so many,
so much stuff uncovered that you know, Oh, we weren't
doing it well oops, yeah, I guess we were type thing,
you know. And look at the experiments they ran for

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so many years on our soldiers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
On our public too. There's been the case where they
put chemicals in yeah, in populated places.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Look at the whole n k ultra thing. And then
also look at the radiation experiments they did with the
atomic bombs on our soldiers on the when they when
they were you know, test detonating these these bombs, you know,
and then let's see how it affects them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
It. They just say, if we just.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Set them out front with a pair of goggles on,
let's see what happens. Oh, we're going to be in
the bunker. Yeah, you know that happened, folks. It's the
same thing with nerve agents and anything.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
H y'all may have may not have heard about a
little thing called Agent Orange. Yeah okay, yeah, so yeah.
I think I think they I think the experiment with
whatever the hell they want to experiment with. And I
don't think there has to be a blurry line anywhere

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they're just keeping under wraps, because I guarantee you there
was humans being cloned long before Dolly came out, and
that's the clone sheep. If y'all hadn't heard about it,
so you know, that's that's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
No, that's your No. I mean, I think France HiT's
a good point. You make a good point. And you know,
number one, I don't trust the government, right, I don't
think anybody does. I think they know there's so much
they know that they don't report. I do believe that
this experiments is going on. I also don't believe that
the government cares about us. Hell, go back to the

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World War when the Nazis the Blitzkreek, as Brent was
mentioning about, you know, super soldiers and yeah yeah Agent Orange.
Yeah so so yeah, so even back then, you know

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when we had to keep up. If you remember, the
German soldiers were relentless in their attacks on the ground,
troops just going through the Americans and the Allies, right,
and so they then we find out that they are
on some sort of speed at you know, a drug. Right,
So what does our government do with our United States

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soldiers to win the war and to keep up with them?
I guess they're thinking about winning the war and helping
our troops, but in fact they weren't because all they
were doing is they made an enhanced version of meth.
And there's a term for it that they used back
in the war. I forget that they gave our troops

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so they were twenty four to seven fighting machines, didn't
need rest, right, and allow those people in the war
ended ended up being addicted to all these drugs. So
did our government care about our boys? Hell no, Yeah,
we had to win the war, but at what costs? Right?
I permanently screw up a bunch of people, permanently. Look

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the LSBTA, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
I remember that day though. Oh yeah, syndrome. Yeah, they
were given a lot of people LSB, not just the soldiers,
but yeah that's crazy, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
And people I met are super have superhuman strength from
what I understand. Hey, quick shut out, quick shutut to
Eddie and Jen their vlog, Hey Eddie, how you doing.
Go check out their channels? Pretty cool. They talk about
a lot of different things in the paranormal world and
texture of me on to them last month, and uh yeah,

(01:07:29):
I go check out Eddie and John over the other
vlog there a YouTube channel me and text about that
on it. They're a pretty cool family over there. So yeah,
quick shout out to Eddie, thanks for coming on in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Yep, they've been on my show a couple of times too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
In fact, they'll be at my show in two weeks,
I believe. Yeah, they're cool, good people. Dead air mhmm,
we have dead air. But no, but no, But I

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guess the bottom line, you guys, I don't you know,
not even well, not even a political statement. I've never
trusted the government since I was twenty five years old.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Sure, and I'll tell you. I'll tell you what's crazy
is that the if you look like back in the
fifties versus you know, right after the fifties, the sixties
and forward. The complete trust that people had in the
government and the news agencies up until the up until

(01:08:42):
the fifties, you know, and then when that flip, when
that switch was flip, man, it went one eight And
I don't know what the turning point was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
That might be something cool to research too, is when when,
And it could have been I don't know, it could
have been the seed I guess started being planned back
when when Roswell happened, you know, and then that that
big debacle, you know, because whoever handled that thing for

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for the government and the press was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
An absolute moron.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
You know, But because they could have went a whole
lot of different ways that would have you know, maybe
the conspiracy wouldn't have been as big as as it was,
you know. But you can't come out and say, oh, yeah,
this happened and here's the evidence, and oh wait a minute,
no it didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
They normally im mobilize entire platoons to get weather balloons. Yeah,
it happens all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Absolutely absolutely, and then they yeah, anyway, but you know,
with the whole Bigfoot thing, I mean, it's I I'm

(01:10:21):
off two minds of it, because one part of me
can totally understand why they don't want to release the
fact that they do exist. And then another another part
of me says that we absolutely should know the truth.
The problem is they've denied it for so long that

(01:10:49):
if we had been dealing, if they had come off
of it. And I don't know if this is so
much the government as the arrogance and of the the academics,
academics that drove this narrative and this denial, because they've

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got into it so deep now, they've doubled down so
many times on these things not existing. And if they
had come out with it just when it first started
coming out, we would be used to having these things
in our world and it would be just like any
other thing that existed beside us, and the way we

(01:11:35):
dealt with it and understood it would have just come
up along with us, much like when the Native Americans
knew these things. They had relationships with these things, but
it's not like they lived in fear all the time,
you know, we would. It's the whole frog in the

(01:11:56):
pot of water thing, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Yeah, you know when you talk about the UFO and
alien thing. How many times when we've seen all these
news briefs, they have these big congressional hearings on one side,
they say UFOs and aliens exist and a week later
they do recap. No, that's not what we were saying.
They don't exist. So nobody really cares what the government

(01:12:21):
has to say or the Department of Defense. But I
will tell you this, I don't really I'm not here
to prove Bigfoot exists or not. I saw what I saw.
I know they exist, right right. I don't think i'd
want the government. Whether you would believe the government is

(01:12:41):
another question. Saying yes Bigfoot exists. Roman's our lands and
they are in our national parks, our national forests, or
all over the world. I'm not so certain that i'd
want them to release that because I can I can
see a bunch of yah who's just running out in

(01:13:02):
the forest, fully armed, wanting to be the first one
citizen to make a citizen's capture or kill. I just
I just think that our force would be uns become
more uns I mean, the forest is safe to go in,
you guys, if you take care of the precautions, it's safe.

(01:13:24):
But I think it would be unsafe with just a
human element of all these brazerkohs out there armed to
the hills looking to shoot one if it was said
that Bigfoot exists, they Roman Northern Michigan, They Roman Idaho.
I don't think I want that release, to be honest with.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
You, well, not now. Like I said, if they'd have
done it from the get go, we don't have the
we wouldn't have this problem. We wouldn't be having this conversation.
You know, there would be there would be Peter would
be going, you know, say the Bigfoot, protect the big
Foot type thing. We'd have that, just like save the whales,

(01:14:04):
you know. But and if they'd come out, honestly, probably
what would have happened. If they'd come out that they
did exist, we'd have probably hunted them to extinction long
before today.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
And that's why I'm glad it didn't, you know, so
good and bad they were proven, we would have we'd
have to start different channels. I'm not starting all over.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
My channel is going to be text told you so.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
It's gonna be Texas now defunct to what's your thoughts, Brent.
I know, as you've been communicating and chat you think
that it would be all craziness if the government said, yes,
Bigfoot exists and it is an Idaho, you think you'd
be you think it'd be a little more dangerous for
the average camper. You think a lot of people would

(01:15:04):
be running around trying to capture kill one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
I think that we would push these things. However, many
are left into extinction because once it becomes common knowledge,
we have a tendency to destroy what we love. It's like,
once a word would ever get out that, hey, there's
bigfoot out there, it's fact. You know that the forest
would suddenly be swarming with people that would want to

(01:15:27):
see one for themselves, and you know that there'd be
a big push to get one in the zoo, so
the people that don't want to go to the forest
can go see one for themselves. And we just have
no idea how many are out there, what their breeding
populations look like. But even to drop one, I think
it puts the whole you know, area at huge risk

(01:15:48):
to lose these things forever. You know, it's just they've
done just fine in our absence, and we should probably
allow them to continue to do that. I mean, it'd
be right to know that, you know, public people, that
the public would be aware of the presence of these things,
But the amount of freaking people that would make it,

(01:16:09):
you know, a brand new hobby, and it would probably
cause people to go out and push them out of
habitat that they're already clinging to and destroying. You know,
there's I'm sure that these things have a circuit that
they do every year. They follow the berries, they follow
the game, they follow, They know in their home range
what's going to happen when it's going to happen. But

(01:16:30):
suddenly you've got a influx of everybody in the family
truckster heading out there looking for one because they were
seen there, and it's going to push them out of there,
out of their cycle. And I think it's already probably
a fragile population as it exists, and if it became
regularly you know, acknowledged, it would only it would only

(01:16:52):
push them to the brink of no return.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Yep, I agree, unfortunately, Yeah, I hate it, you know,
but we don't do nothing but screw stuff up. We
don't make things better as as a whole.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
And it doesn't matter what we're talking about, whether this
scrypts or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
You know, sure.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
You tell you know, you give us something beautiful, we're
gonna screw it up. It's like the thing goes. That's
why we can't have nice things people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Mm hmmm, just yeah, that's why the weather's messed up.
Now we've got killer tornadoes because everybody's shooting lasers into the.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Sky, right, is that what's doing it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
I had no, I just made that up. I have
no idea. But you guess what, probably so the.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Weather now here? Okay, I'm gonna start a rumoring. So yeah,
they are believe and he is, he's this is the
conspiracy he's putting forward. Is that all you s e
five junkies out there are causing all these killer tornadoes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
And I would say that, but I tell you what, No,
that's what I heard you say. You're there aliens with
lasers or I'm not a big advocate of that guy.
What's his name? Yeah, I don't know about that guy,
but I will say this, I think we've been manipulating

(01:18:30):
the weather. Or do you believe that the axis of
the Earth is naturally ever so slightly moving and moving
and moving, and then we're being tilted ever so slowly
towards the Sun and the Moon, which is continuingly to
impede gravity or make gravity just move just a little bit.

(01:18:50):
Where these things happen, you never know. I believe it's
more natural than anything else. You know, I look at
the erosion of Niagara Falls. You know, Niagara Falls is
probably back off the shoreline over eight hundred feet literally
from when it first was created.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Oh, just.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
From sheer erosion homes in Lake Michigan, because that Lake
Michigan pounds the shoreline. I was talking to a guy,
not a friend of some dude. I happened to talk
to it when I was up north about three years ago.
Was telling me he had this house. He had his
house sat back a good fifty yards from Lake Michigan

(01:19:35):
shoreline and a beautiful property. He had all this nice
beach front. And he says, you know, after about twenty
and he's been there for his entire life. And he
was saying, it's gotten to the point where his now
fifty yards of property is now dwindled down to about
twenty yards. And there are literal homes on Lake Michigan.

(01:19:57):
I've literally fallen right into Lake Michigan. I like to
see that happens in the Pacific Ocean out in California.
It actually happens off Lake Michigan, you guys, And that
these people have these beautiful properties are now dwindling, and
now their property that they paid a million dollars for,
the folks properly, you can't get it for two hundred

(01:20:19):
grand are worth now simply because of the property and
the erosion and the unstability of the earth the house
is sitting on. Now, that's crazy, that's natural.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
Yeah, it's a little different strata though in Michigan and
a lot of limestone and things like that, softer, you know,
whereas on the I think on the West coast there's
a lot of granite and there's a you know, much
firmer account. Yeah, yeah, so it's not as prone to
prone to erosion in the same regard.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
Now California is washed away from the mud slides and
house down.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Yeah yeah, yep. But yeah, it's interesting stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
The weather's fascinating, I really do. I think that's just
the way the history of the planet Earth, right, the
way it existed.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Sure, I would I would say it's fair to say that,
you know, we've certainly had the impact on the world
and then a lot of ways not good because you
think back, you know that the when the United States
was an early country, you could go to streams and
grab some water and then just go new and now
there's like maybe three bodies of water in the entire

(01:21:31):
nation where it's okay to drink.

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
And even then, you know, you got things like giardia
and all that other stuff. So but yeah, it's it's
a different world for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Yeah, it definitely is a different world.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
And we were coming to look at ground springs that
that that is why that place is so famous. One
of the reasons, well, for over the early years was
because of the spring. It's fresh, cold water coming up
out of the ground. People used it to drink. Yeah,

(01:22:07):
you ain't gonna catch me drinking out of it right now.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
You know, I was. You won't catch me even swimming
in a lake even nowadays with all of the things
you can catch really a natural wake, not a man maid,
even mad meid, like, you're not gonna see we's swimming
in Lake Erie anytime soon. Let's put it to you
that way. Let her love the Detroit River, which I

(01:22:33):
used to go in all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
I grew up swimming in the Mississippi. So I'm sure
I've been exposed to all kinds of frank and I'm
sure we.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Have, you know, I used to we used to spend
hours at the lakes just you know, hanging out, floating around.
But yeah, you know, I don't know today. I don't
know about today.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Yeah, well I think probably, and in all truth, there's
there's much more of a of untwhere fareness of environmental
impacts and chemicals and stuff. So I think it's it's
probably slowly getting better in a lot of ways. But
it's just you know, after generations of absolute neglect, Yeah,

(01:23:12):
it's gonna take a while.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Well, we've sprewed things up so bad now that the
only thing's going to happen is the stuff that we
buried that we did want to get out years and
years from now is going to get out and leak
in it. She's gonna make it hope.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Yeah, we ain't gonna fix it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
There's no way to fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
We've we've created all this stuff that we we cannot
get rid of in a safe way.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
But I don't know about that though, because I think
nature adapts. I mean, they've even found bacteria that will
now eat plastic that didn't used to exist, and you know,
those those nature will find a way. It's just the
question is is it am gonna have to change so
much that it's no longer suitable for us. Exact, we're
going to chemical ourselves right out of a out of

(01:24:08):
a planet.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
And really quickly too. I do have to bring this
up one last time. When I was watching that tornado
a documentary MM there was one that was spread through
the Ozark Mountains and there's a lot of swampy marshy lands,
waterways and avenues, right and some of the people that

(01:24:33):
were exposed in the tornado, and they're getting hit with
these high winds and everything, and they were getting cuts,
and they were getting damped from the from the rain
and just the the remnants of the tornado. A couple
of people end up getting very sick and they went

(01:24:53):
into the hospital and where they get what are the symptoms?
And then they were exposed to a flesh eating disease,
oh God, which was drummed up by the Ozark Mountains
and the tornado and all and all these all this,
the parasites and everything else deep in the sediment of
these rivers and streams was sucked up in the tornado

(01:25:17):
and that was cast upon a certain group of people
that they got exposed to this, and they had the
flesh eating disease, and again they show these people their
poor bodies. How not going to get into the how
gruesome it looked. But they had determined that they were
prone to the elements from the tornado, exposed to the elements,

(01:25:38):
I should say, and that's indeed where they got that
that disease from. So yeah, what's lurking on the bottom
of these lakes the oceans wherever? We don't know, you know,
And that's uh, that was pretty terrible when I was
watching that, you guys, that's a nice uh food for thought,

(01:25:59):
is our buddy? Barry Lyttleton would say, right text food
for thought. Yeah, yeah, stay away from the tornado and
still lakes. You know, life in general it will be okay.

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