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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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store for you. And without further ado, I'm going to
bring up mister Texts. What's happened to Texts?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Not a whole lot? WHA ain't getting the nasty weather y'all?
They're getting up north of us.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Man, Well, I gotta tell you, I'll bring up Brent
really quickly as well. I'll get into that just a
little bit, because I got something interesting to show you guys,
and there is mister Brent Brent Thomas paranormal portal.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Good day, Jents, good day.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
You know, it's funny texts that you mentioned that, because
first of all, for all you folks of that have
been inflicted by these tornadoes, you know, it's a tornado
season in the Midwest the Southern States. If you've been
afflicted by that, of course, prayers to you. Hopefully you're
all pretty you know, are safe and nothing disastrous has happened,

(03:15):
like you know, unfortunately tends to happen. And here in Michigan,
you guys, we as far as tornadoes go, we don't
we get tornadoes, but they're not you know, they they
typically don't really touch the ground. If they touch the ground,
they come from the south. Because I'm like an hour

(03:36):
from Ohio and Indiana border. So if we do get
a big tornado, it's thrust from the south to the north.
Typically all the weather comes from the west. But I
believe that because of Lake Michigan, it really kind of
protects us from these big tornadoes. But what we do get,
especially where I live, thunderstorms, rain and all of this stuff.

(04:03):
This is just crazy weather. And where I live at
floods all the time. And I'm going to tell you guys,
I've always wanted a lakefront property. And I was up
this morning and I was invited to this. It's in
front of my house.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Nice, what you wish?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I got what I wish for. That is late front
property right out the front door of Bmr's house. Yeah,
there it is my taxes. Well, you're a pirate. I
am our of eighties. In fact, I do have a canoe.
I was telling texts earlier this morning I might take
out my little canoe because you can go out right

(04:45):
here and go way down to the back past that
stop sign. There's a creek. It's got a nice current
and it can take you all around. But I was
telling texts that if I were to get on that,
I don't know how I would get back because.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Get your brother to come pick you up.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, I would need two people to traverse the canoe. Right.
If I went solo, I couldn't come against back against
the currents too strong. And that takes you to all
the tributaries around here, and they all lead to the
Detroit River. Yeah, that's all I would need canue on
the Detroit River. Yeah, and it and I could get

(05:23):
there just by simply getting on the canoe and getting
that creek that kind of surrounds my entire neighborhood. But
that's what I get. And I used to flood all
the time, but I had to do some things over
the last several years to stop that. But the water,
you guys, has come up to the porch literally sometimes right,

(05:44):
it's not the front porch after that. M you don't
experience any flooding really around your parts to your text,
I know that is known to flood in the Dallas area, but.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well no, not normally here. I mean we get our
streets flooded every once in a while, you know. I
mean they'll get deep, but they don't come into the
yard top thing, you know, not not in my area.
But I'm kind of on high ground so that helps.
But yeah, it's in low in low lying areas. Yeah,

(06:21):
we'll we'll get they'll shut down roads and stuff because
they get flooded out.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
What about you, Bruent, do you get any of those
sorts of weather you are you kind of like the
mountains kind of strong where you live or are you
two further too far our south.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
No, no, no, I'm up in the mountains, so we don't
get flooding here. I grew up in Minnesota on a floodplain,
so I spent many a spring boating from the hill
near our house to our house and the power off,
the heat off. Uh, you know, we lived lived there
all year round. So but you know, in the missis

(07:00):
came up. In fact, that's what actually was one of
the things that brought me to the north of Idaho was,
you know, I was living in my grandmother's basement of
her house. She passed way years ago, but the downstairs
was kind of set up as a separate living unit,
so I used to live there, but the flood came
and then it flooded us out, so we had to go.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, I'm fortunate where I live. I live up kind
of on a hill, so where my elevation is much
higher than the neighbors. Despite myself getting all this water.
The lower lying houses, the one on the far corner
on that picture, the poor guy, the house goes up
for sale every two years because the basement always is flooded.

(07:46):
There's nothing the engineers can do about it. And that's
why the house always sells for forty fifty thousand dollars,
well below market value because these poor people are always
throwing their furniture out, or if they have kids, they're
toys and stuff gets messed up. And they know this
going into this because that's all disclosed. Sure you know

(08:07):
the house has turned over maybe twenty times in you know,
fifteen years literally, Wow, yeah that sucks. Yeah, So but
people buy it because you know it's cheap, and they figure, well,
won't happen to me. Hey, it happens three times a
year at least during the spring.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Do you do you have an inground basement too? Or no,
I do, but you don't get water.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
And it used to until it wasn't from the flood
with the ground the water pressure would seep into the
ground that I would get flooding in the basement. So
I had to yuh on the side of the house,
the north side of the house. I had to have
some guys coming and dredge it all out. Oh and
then lay whatever they put cement and steal it. You know.

(08:47):
They made like a sea wall if you would if
you had a lakefront property. So since I had that done,
I don't get anything in the house.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Oh goody.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
But some of these lower lying houses, for example, if
you had a regular sedan cor on the street, much
like is out there today, the water is so high
that it goes underneath the bottom of your door, and
it goes inside and floods out the inside of your car.
So many a car has been my room ruined in
a lot of cases. And you know, insurance, I don't

(09:18):
think covers that a friend of mine found out not
too long ago.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
No, I never park on the street. The only thing
you can hope is that you can get flood insurance
through FEMA. That's what we traditionally did on the floodplain
in Minnesota. And yeah, otherwise you're screwed insurance.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Well, don't tell you about To tell you a quick
story about FEMA. My brother, my brother made CNN news.
Oh this house. My brother lives literally three blocks from me.
He lives on the corner. He's got a big old
lot on the corner. And he had we had this big,
huge storm run. It was a terrible storm, and his

(09:56):
basement flooded literally in the they spent three to four
feet up inside of his and all the homes in
that area they got destroyed. So he put his claim
in with FEMA, and he had tens of thousands of
dollars worth of damage. It took him three years to
get a check from FEMA. Three years and guess how

(10:20):
much the amount was? For thirty two hundred bucks. Oh,
and then my brother was calling into his insurance company
or into the assessor because of the taxes, and got
his taxes got levy twelve hundred dollars more per year.

(10:41):
And you know what they told him on the phone.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Well, he quite frequently experienced the lakefront property. He about
went down there ready to ring somebody's neck. Literally, his
wife had to stop him because he hung up the phone.
Who's going right to the city hall and dragged the
mayor out of his office. Yeah, and if he did

(11:07):
not have the wife, I'm not so sure he wouldn't have.
But can you imagine someone telling you that.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
No, that's a pretty poor taste, it's terribly Yep.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
That deserves an asked woman. Oh gosh, for sure.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
So, but that's that again. Everybody, if you're in the
in the tornado valley or wherever, if you're in the
path of the tornadoes, hey, I hope you're okay. Again,
it happens. We all know, this is nothing new in
the United States, right. It does seem to get progressively
worse every year, but that's because they're firing lasers up

(11:48):
into the.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Atmosphere and harp and all kinds of other stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's I think it's the hail cannon.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Maybe that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Maybe that's where it could be.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
We we kind of talked about this. I think it was. Oh,
it was on The Girls Show last night? Was it
last night? No? Yeah, that they used to use hail cannons.
They thought that if firing cannons up in the air

(12:27):
with no no rounds in it, you know, just a concussion,
way would bust apart the hail and stuff and it wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Wow, how'd that work out?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Depends who you at. But that was the thing in
the eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, I believe it. I believe it. That's like around
the time they were using leeches to suck out diseases
and stuff, right.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I oh, yeah, supposedly, Yeah, that that's what that's what
you did.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, it's weird. You know what's strange though?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
One of the one of the the treatments from back
then is still being used today, and that's using magnets
to eat get grown.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah. No, yeah, yeah, I've heard that too. It seems
kind of gross, but apparently that works. Wonders.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
They're sterilized, sterilized maggots mm hmm, yep, because they only
eat the dead tissue and.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
Apparently they secrete like an antibiotic though too, something like that.
So like they eat the dead tissue and then they
like the the mucus that they generate. Is I guess
like an antibiotic or something like that. I could be
absolutely wrong, but that's the version I heard.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, I mean, I've never heard that, but I'm I'm
sure that you know, everything's a possibility.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Sure, that's why we got shows.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Thank you, Kelly Sanderford. Great way to start the show.
Thank you so much, Kelly, appreciate you. Appreciate everybody for
coming on in, whether you're in the chat room or
listening elsewhere or Washington replay. That's awesome. And so you guys,
I didn't know. I so the three of us are

(14:37):
sitting here, we usually spit ball some things, and I decided,
you know, what to come up with for today. And
we always talk about you know, we always keep the
topics the same with cryptos, the paranormal, this, that, and
the other. We're do the same today, but there's always
that that question that makes you wonder, right about where

(14:59):
these things are should come from. Now. I'm not talking
specifically cryptives being flesh and blood, or being paranormal, or ghosts, spirits,
or any of these other things we come across, but
I was trying to think about, do some of these
cryptives or these paranormal things, where do they come from?

(15:21):
Outside the Earth? Are there We've all heard about things
coming through portals, We've all heard about maybe that we
just imagine these things. Maybe they come from inner Earth,
from all over different planes, different realms, maybe a world
between the planes and the realms. I don't know, but

(15:42):
I I saw this picture. I'm not a big picture guy.
I don't know where it was. I was on one
of the social media's Facebook wherever it was online, and
I saw an interesting picture. I'm I didn't copy and
paste the picture because I'm not a big picture guy,
but it got me to thinking whether this picture was

(16:02):
accurate or contrived. I don't know, but it seemed like
in the foreground of this forest where the picture was taken,
I think somewhere in Tennessee, it had all these It
had it had two pictures in it. One was all
of these beings of sorts. It seemed like they were

(16:24):
like coming through from a portal and they were just
about to come through and come on to our side,
into our realm, and all of a sudden, in the
other picture, they all kind of receded back, And I
thought that was interesting, And they got me to thinking

(16:45):
were they coming from? Was this something to do with
we all hear about the sern, we all hear about
another realm. I'm wondering if these things do come from
other areas outside of just our planet itself. We've all
talked to people, interview different people. We've been doing this

(17:06):
a long time. We've had different guests on our shows,
our own personal research, and watching other podcasts. You think
there's any relevance, Do you think there's Some of these
creatures aren't even walking on the planet, Yeah, coming from
somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think it's anything as possible. I mean, I don't
think we really understand the nature of the reality we
live in, and all of the many layers. But I
mean people have been considering portals or dimensions or gateways
since ancient times, and so they must have come upon

(17:43):
that somewhere. I mean, like something must have been observed
or experienced where it started that or many things. I
don't know. I mean, there's people today who even claim
to see portals emerging and things coming out of them.
So is it possible? Sure? I think we live in
a multiverse, so God only knows what lives in those

(18:07):
other versions or those other layers. Could be frequency related,
could be dimensionally related. That could mean the same thing
for all we know too. You know, I don't know,
but it doesn't surprise me the possibility of it. You know.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Me either. I'm always confused about when people throw out
these words like a different realm, the multiverse, you know, vortext, this,
that and the other. I mean, aren't they all like
the same thing? Are they different? That's the thing that
I'm that I don't have a big handle on yet.
Quantum diggers dogs as to quantum mechanics is involved, which

(18:45):
is another possibility.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Sure, well, I think I think as far as multiverse
is concerned, that's like well, I mean in some in
some variations, it's many layers of an existence similar to ours,
but each has a little difference, and they're I don't know,
somehow we're separated from them, Like dimensions are levels of

(19:12):
reality in terms of, you know, things stacked on each other.
Like if you were in a one dimensional reality that
you only had one dimension of perspective, you wouldn't be
you wouldn't be aware of a two dimensional reality which
would be right on top of you. And much the
same if you're in a two dimensional reality, you wouldn't

(19:33):
be aware of a third dimensional reality that would be
right on top of you. And so I think dimensions
are like layers of perception almost, or the ability to
perceive layers of perception, but like a multiverse or that
kind of thing I think is there's just variations of

(19:53):
reality all around us, and that it's not having as
much to do with dimensions as it is with I
don't know the mechanics or or what happens in that
other version of reality, and I don't know. I mean,
there's some people that suggest that the Mandela effect is
us merging into another version of reality, of the multiverse,

(20:17):
so to speak, and that's why we have Mandela effects
like oh, the because the lion laid down with the
lamb and the Bible until more recently where it's the
wolf laying down with the lamb and that makes that
cooks most people's bacon. It's like, wait, it's always been
the line mirror mirror on the wall versus magic mirror
on the wall. And you know, and then there's there's
huge variations there that are just phenomenal. But you know,

(20:42):
so are those are those us traversing this multiverse in
a sense, like merging into other versions of reality? And
there's those little variations, are those colloquialisms and terms and
and things like that that are a little bit different.
And so I don't know, I don't know if I'm
explaining anything, but I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Well, that's the thing. We're all spitball in here is
Texas States shoeing the fat And again, to me, it's
just the more you know, the less you know, and
all these things are talking about it's just so contriving
to the one big ball, right, It's like a big
never ending ball right that you can't it heads your tail? Sound? Yeah,

(21:25):
tex what's you? You all right over there?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I am good. I am good. I'm just trying to
arrange things and talk over people that are outside my door.
But anyway, you know, we've talked about the whole realms
and and I don't know what brench problem is. He's

(21:52):
the he is a total master. I mean, he's got
one behind him for God's sake.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, I can't give it all the way on one
show though, Texas gotta yeah, I gotta safeguard some of this.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
You have to spread it out here.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
But you know what we've got. You know, our good
friend Christian Peyton was on an investigation out in the
woods where they actually caught what they think is evidence
of a portal on thermal people actually walking into it
and disappearing and then coming back out and talking about,

(22:32):
you know, a different reality. It was a different place.
So what do you do with that? You know, you've
got you know, the missing time with me. Yeah, well,
and I still don't know what to do with that.

(22:53):
So is it possible that these things are on a
different plane or they are they? You know, do they
come from? I think you mentioned earlier, rob Inner Earth,
Middle Earth, whatever you know, hollow. I'm kind of leaning

(23:13):
towards this whole hollow earth thing, because there's a lot
of stuff out there that we experience and the stuff
just is gone now because I don't I don't think
these things are walking around, jumping in and out of wormholes, portals,

(23:36):
whatever you wanna call them.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Maybe not all of them anyway, but I do think
those things exist. My maybe it has to do with
lay lines. Maybe it has to do with certain uh
so and vibration, you know, maybe we just catch glimpses

(24:05):
of them when they hit or you know, they get
the harmonics is right with our with a herd realm,
and that's what we see as far as ghosts and stuff.
But the more the the you know, the dog man
where that type of thing, bigfoot, I think it's something

(24:26):
we're dealing with on a physical plane. In our plane.
They're just real good at hiding.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I could agree with that. I got to ask you
for people that are confused because this you always hear
people talk about the lay aline. What exactly does the
lay aline? We guess what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Basically, it's it's uh the way the magnetics run over
the earth, you know, And you can look up a
lay line map in the thing about most people don't
realize is lay lines shift. It's much like the poles.
You know, they shift all the time. Everybody, I know,

(25:09):
everybody was all talking about all the poles are going
to flip at the end of the freaking world. Poles
have flipped in the past. You know, it's just it
just happens, right, But the north pole changes, you know,
it doesn't stay out with sand, so sand it's got
to move all the time.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
But he certainly does.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
But uh, from my understanding, lay lines basically are magnetic
magnetic lines that run across the planet and they and
they do inter uh run into each other, and it

(25:49):
tends to what's odd is is the a lot of
the places we talk about Blind Fogg write The Blind
of Frog Ranch, Skinwalker Ranch, l B L. Brown Springs.
If you look at all those, they have lay lines

(26:11):
that cross. They have lay lines that intersect in the
in those areas. I think there's something to that, you know.
I don't know if it's as far as the physical critters.
I don't think it's necessarily where these portals pop up
as much. Maybe it is with the other side of things,

(26:34):
but maybe it's it's much like you open up a
breaker outside when when your ac goes on the fritz
and a bunch of ants fall out over there, they're
attracted to the electromagnetic field.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
And maybe that's what we're seeing here.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
What's your thoughts spread on the lay lines?

Speaker 3 (27:00):
You know, I think it's it's certainly worth considering because
there are a lot of the ancient sites like Stonehenge
and and you know, different megalithic sites all over the
planet are believed to be on convergences of lay lines
like those. Those locations are considered energetic, sacred wholly perhaps

(27:24):
you know, however it's defined, but those energetic points seem
to be very significant and people have been attracted to
them forever and revered them forever. So yeah, I think
there's there's something really potent in terms of that, Like
there's there's you know, and it's nothing that we're anywhere

(27:44):
near Kraken as far as explaining or understanding, But certainly
the Earth is a living organism in and of itself,
and these lay lines seem to be it's you know,
it's chakras, so to speak, like these are the energetic
points of convergences or something. And perhaps perhaps it is

(28:06):
in an inter dimensional or or or some other version
of that. I don't know, but yeah, I think those
those sites have been important for all, you know, all
through our history as a as a you know, a civilization.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Do you think there's something exists between actual time and space?
Because I'm gonna have a guy on in two weeks
where we talking about this, I'm gonna throw it at you, guys.
Do you think there's a world between time and space?
If we even know what time and space is with
the differences, something in that layer, you know, everything seems
to be layered right.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Well, So here's the thing for me with with especially
with time and space, is that in we we perceive
time as this very linear series of events like here's
where it starts and here's where it is, and then
there's you know, incremental shifts in between there. But I'm

(29:04):
I'm really kind of thinking that like maybe time is
a human construct. It's it's us us measuring our experience
so to speak. Like, you know, we measure time by
where we are, how far it will take, how long
it'll take to get to somewhere else. But there's a
concept that I'm really fascinated with. It's called non Euclidean

(29:28):
time and the ideas that all time exists in the
same now. You know, from the from the dawn of
all of creation to the the inevitable collapse of it all,
from the moment of your birth till the moment you're
taking your last breath, and you know, everything is happening
just in this now, and and we move through this

(29:53):
now in terms of our experience, in terms of our growth,
in terms of what we learn in our life. You know,
the journe our lives take us, and we perceive that
we measure that based on time, this constructive time. But
you know, perhaps perhaps everything is already happening now. And
case in point. In the paranormal, I've covered many stories

(30:14):
where people experience ghosts, and the ghosts are just as
surprised to see the people as the people are to
see the ghosts. It's like we're the ghosts to them,
they're the ghost to us. Well, maybe that's a time diaphragm.
And if it is possible to see through different timelines,
then it has to be somehow stacked or somehow piled
onto each other. I mean, there's got to be something else,

(30:36):
because if it's a linear construct or if it's a
taco or a burrito, as some people like to explain it,
there there is a points in I don't know, I
kind of like the idea of all things existing because
it kind of it kind of feels like what maybe
the mind of God would be like, like there isn't.
I don't think the mind of God exists, you know,

(30:58):
from here to here or whatever. I think it's outside
of all of this. And and maybe this whole non
Euclidean time idea is kind of you know, the time
of the God, you know, of God, of the divine. Like,
I don't know if I'm making sense of this or not.
I'm trying really hard, but this is very deep for
this time of day. But you know, it's it's fascinating

(31:20):
to think that maybe time isn't the thing at all.
It's just how we measure change.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
So I don't know, time just could be irrelevant really,
right exactly?

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Time was an invention by us, well sure and we
we uh yeah, me, me and me and Paul did
one of the waken Up Weirds about different lish spans

(31:52):
of different things. Right, So say you're one of these
critters that live two weeks. That is a lifetime to you.
You know, you have us that let's stay on the outside,
we can live one hundred years. Okay, I know not
very many of us make it. I will, but not

(32:13):
many of us make it.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Oh, it's definitely in the couds.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah yeah, hey, you know Santa List one hundred and
twenty four, so you know normally, but so yeah, do
you think that these things measure time the same way
we do. Absolutely not, No, not at all. You know,

(32:38):
you've got tortoises and you know that live a few
hundred years. They don't measure time the way we do.
You know, their lifetime is different than ours. Look at
a dog, you know, a dog on the outside will
live you know, extremely point years. Maybe yeah, you know,

(33:02):
I had one that lasted eighteen years. But normally they
live about ten years. But they don't. They don't rester
that as being as oh, I'm meaning here for this
amount of time.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
No, they don't think that at all.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
No, So to your point, time is irrelevant, but it is.
It's it goes back to the old adage perception is reality. Right.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
So and even with like predators, we don't even have
to talk about cryptis. For example, even the tortoises, or
the animals mammals, fishes of the seas. You know, they
know where to migrate to certain warm waters right when
the season comes. They know where to go to during

(33:56):
mating season. Predators know right around light falls when they
can go out there. It's their best time to hunt.
It's not they're not on a clock. They they instinctively
live off of the land and how the world spins
around the axis. Right right, it's dusk, it's time to hunt.
It's depending on the animal, it's the daytime they might

(34:20):
sleep and rest for their hunt, or the opposite with
other certain animals.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Right, Well, it's like us. We are normally not we
are not nocturnal animals. You can't see for crap, and
so when it gets dark we seek shelter. You know,
that is that is ingrained in our DNA, like you're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
You know, there's even people that suggest, okay, this is
twenty twenty five. Some people suggest that the year really
is like twenty fifty three, and some people suggest it's
like nineteen ninety seven. I don't even think there's an
accurate time where we can assess what the actual year
is or even what time it actually is.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Wish.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I kind of sometimes I kind of wish it was
eight nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
I wish I loved eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, but there for me.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
But yeah, but any any measurement that we give time,
it's still a human measurement, like it it doesn't. Yeah, absolutely,
It's kind of like the whole flat Earth versus round Earth.
It's like, well, you know, either way, I still got
the same crap to deal with whether we're on a
plate or an orb you know.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
So yeah, when it comes down to it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, No, not really, not in my opinion anyway. But
that's just me.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
You know. Text brought on something a little bit early
about this inner Earth thing, which I'm really getting more
and more fascinated with. I I've got to I tell
you what. I tend to believe that there is something
inside the inner Earth. I think a lot of these
even if you talk about how these things appear and disappear,
it will we can we could get rid of the
the realm, the time and space gig what about their creatures?

(36:02):
There's another world inside the planet. I've often wondered, a well,
it sounds far fetched. You even hear stories about the
moon being hollow for God's sakes. But we do know
this about the United States, the planet Earth. There are
all these cities that are built in the inner Earth,
you know, all these dumbs we always hear about. It's

(36:23):
not just a research facility even over there. Whereas it
is that in Colorado. Is it where Noriad has set
up a community where you can hold two thousand people
and it runs like a city beneath the earth? Why
not some of these cryptid beings, why don't they have
their own other places, live outside of the planet.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Case and points the new research going on in Egypt
that suggests that there's these you know, pillers going hundreds
of meters into the Earth, and then there might be
an underground city there, and this would be from ancient times.
I don't know if the Earth is allow per se,
but I think it's incredibly cavernous, you know, like uh,
you know, I don't. I don't know that there's an

(37:07):
orb you know, the orb like sun of some burning
minerals in there and they got But there is there's
apparently there's apparently proven or at least suggested through seismographs,
that there is underground oceans. They have had seismographs on
the floor of the of the ocean in some of

(37:28):
the deepest areas possible, and they have recorded what sounds
like waves crashing on a beach on their on their
deep water seismographs, and uh, it seems pretty incredible. There
was a there was an event in I think it
was over in the Pacific Islands, but it might have
been no, I think it was. But apparently suddenly in

(37:52):
the ocean there was introduced a whole array of new
of new manta rays that had never been seen before,
just suddenly, and it apparently coincided with a great break
of one of the ice shelfs up in the up
in the Arctic, that perhaps there was something being plugged
in and it opened up with the collapse of this

(38:12):
huge ice shelf, and suddenly they're seeing these new new
breeds of like manta rays and things like that, And
and did they come from one of those inner oceans
or how does that work? So there there does seem
to be at least reasonable data to suggest that there's

(38:33):
something pretty significant going on under under the earth, of
under the crust of our Earth or in the crust.
Is it other civilizations? Is it other you know, is
there is there cultures in there, and I think it's possible.
I you know, I don't know. It's it really does
boggle your mind when you think of possibilities, right.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Text. You recall we had doctor Dean Bertramont a couple
of weeks ago on this show and it was about
the Darrow on the Inner Earth. A lot of these
beings were lived there. Yeah and uh and I thought
that was a fascinating take. Doctor Dean Bursch has a
great story. But it's gonna be a speaker, by the way,
at our conference.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yes he is.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
The thing about it is these if we if we're
going to talk about Bigfoot and dog Man, these type
of creatures that I believe are physical. Again, I'm just
going to get that out there, the ones I've dealt
with anyway, Yes, uh, ouch. They don't spend all their

(39:38):
time below ground because they don't well as we know
or as far as we know, they they need sunlight,
so they do come up. You know, when you start

(40:02):
talking about subterranean or subterranean things, the ones that spend
all the time in the dark don't really have any
ux fries, you know, So these things are going in
and out somewhere fairly regularly. You know. Maybe it's like

(40:28):
we were talking about, there's certain times when they come in,
certain times when they go in. But which is kind
of odd because why don't we have night time and
counters and daytime encounters and now not given the daytime
encounters are not as you know, prevalent, as as the

(40:49):
not timing counters, but what are we dealing with here?
Because I agree with Brent that it's not so much
follow as cavernous.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, I would say so too, But.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I don't think that it takes a huge cavern It's
not like we're thinking about, you know, miles and miles
of miles. Because I do think that these things that
that maybe they do make their bed underground. I put
them of their layer or whatever you want to call
about underground mm hmm. It could be something, you know,

(41:31):
a spot that they found that just carved out and
gives them sheltered, you know. And I also think these
things are nomadic, so they move around, you know, and
they probably identified certain spots sometimes maybe they they've been
down elsewhere, you know, when they're moving around. As far

(41:53):
as the dark, the darrow and that type of thing,
is it possible. Absolutely, absolutely, you know, because there are
things that you go you know, if you grow up
in a certain area, you you know, you develop certain skills,

(42:14):
you develop certain you know different it's no different. I mean,
look at humans. You know, light skin versus dark skin.
You know, light you know, darker skin seems to be
more in the arid you know places, and light skin
are the more the colder places. So we've all made it.

(42:43):
We've all made adjustments or adaptation or eight adaptations.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Thank you, my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
You had your you a full experience back in the day,
and when you observe this thing, did you get the
sense that it just came from the galaxy? You see? Was
there anything that made you think it came from a
portal or a wormhole? It was just it was just
there when you were out on that back deck looking
to the skies.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
It was just there. I mean, I had no I
had no concept where it came from. And I don't
know how long it was there before I saw it,
And I certainly decided to stop watching it when I
realized it was probably watching me. You know, that was
when it was like, okay, you know, I don't I
don't need this to go any further. I don't need
to get sucked up or taken away or experimented on.

(43:40):
So I was like, yeah, I'm good, and then I
just went inside. So where it came from, there's no
no possible way I could have any idea. It was
just there. It was very real, It was really happening.
But it could have come, you know, from a block
away or a galaxy away, and I wouldn't have any knowledge.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Yeah, you know, this reminds this is some story this
guy sent me in the counter yet and this kind
of where I was even thinking about all these different
avenues where all these things come from. This guy lived
in he was at the base. It was in a Georgia,
the base of the Georgian mountains, and I can't recall.

(44:20):
I'd have to go back and look it up. Of
this mountain range and he says, a very beautiful era.
Him and his wife bought this house and they lived
there three four five years, and they always thought that
it was beautiful at night because at the top of
the mountains there would always be like this beautiful light show.
It was like lightning, but not lightning. It was just

(44:43):
lights would go off. There were different neon colors of blues, oranges, yellows.
It was just fascinating, and in fact, the neighbors they
every night, it always happened to on one particular night
during the month, they started tracking this. Hey, it's Monday night,
it's the fifteenth of the month. So they all got
together and they would sit out in the yard and

(45:04):
they look at this this brilliant show. And this went
on for quite a while. And then one night it
was just the man and the wife and they're out
in their yard and they and they noticed that this
brilliant light show seemed to be getting closer to their home.
And then this light show they lived, and they were

(45:25):
at the base of the mountains, but they are also
in a like a cul de sac with a woodline
in the back. And then the light show seemed to
get closer. But then it seemed also as it came
in from the from the high top of the mountainous range,
it started getting lower, and they started seeing his lights,
these formations coming through the woodline. And then they kind

(45:47):
of was right. It had the end of the woodline
came from the woodline, and they could see this one
hundred yards away from the woodline where their house was
and then all of us sudden, he said, an ominous
rain and miss all of a sudden, out of nowhere
dulled the sky and they kind of dampened out and

(46:09):
diminished the colors of this these neon colors, which was
like one hundred yards away, and the fog got thick,
and he says, Rob, it reminds me if you ever
saw that movie the Fog. And we're not around any
water or anything, but it just got very creepy and spooky.
Then they had this ominous feeling, the wife, and then

(46:29):
they grabbed each other. They didn't know if they wanted
to go in the house, but the fog kind of
started rolling a little closer to the house, he said, Rob.
It probably didn't get no more than another twenty yards
from the original one hundred yard depth. But then he said, like, kids,
you're not some these strange critters, creatures, as text would say,

(46:53):
kind of rolled out from the fog. And it says
they were animals that started running around out of nowhere,
out of this fog. But the animals were really weird.
There almost were like four legged animals that had the
shapes of human heads. Ooh, I planted on them. And
some other strange, strange creatures. Of course, I'm reading for this, this, that,

(47:16):
and the other, and take it for what you will.
But then he asked me a question, and I thought
this guy was serious. Where do you think this came from?
Was this some UFO activity from the hills that came down?
Was that fog a portal, this that, and the other.
So for me, it was very interesting. I kind of
looked into a little of these things, like we all do.
Didn't have an answer for the guy said, I don't know.
It was one hell of a creepy, crazy story. And

(47:38):
then I had asked the guy how long has this
gone on for? And he said it had gone on
for for off and on for a couple of months.
It almost got to the point where they wanted to
move because it was literally terrifying. They were dreaming while awake,
like sleep paralysis, but they were not. And they just
threw that in there because I guess the guy also
suffered from sleep paralysis and head off and wondered. So

(48:02):
my only thought that that was maybe it was maybe
he was sleeping outside and these thoughts. But the thing
about it is he and the wife had seen it
together and the other neighbors has seen the brilliant light shows,
but it was only this particular couple that made mention
of the mysterious foglike roll through their yard with these
really ominous looking creatures. I haven't heard too many stories.

(48:25):
We've heard stories from everybody, but I never really heard
anything quite like that. In fact, it kind of reminded
me of the fog from Stephen King. And I don't
think somebody would just write up an email just for
me to read it. The throat at the waste basket,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Right, that's creepy that, you know, the whole idea of
human heads on creatures. I mean, it really harkens back
to Revelations, right, you know, the the whole end of
Days kind of thing. It's like, oh God, that's horrifying.
But I don't know, I mean, who knows. I will
say that I have been in a thick fog before,

(49:02):
and you know, in one in this one case, I
was at a campground with my my ex wife and
we were camping and there was a street light back
in this campground. I mean it was just you know,
it was very populated with people. But when people would
walk towards us from from the fog. They looked really
creepy walking through the fog, and it really it really

(49:24):
distorted their motions, so they looked like they were zombies,
like you know, this whole weird you know, perversion of
of what you would expect seeing someone walking through And
it felt creepy watching it, even though I knew very
well that that was a person and it was somebody
from the camp you know, campsite right next to me.
I talked to them, but when they were walking through
the fog, it really distorted what I was able to see.

(49:46):
So you know, I'm not saying that they that they
didn't see what they said they saw, but I just
do know that it's it's hard to objectively observe things
in the in the fog because it does pervert and
distort what you could see. So it is a consideration. Anyway,
I'm not trying to know.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
I see that's I think that's a great point. I'm
not suggesting this guy was. I think, like Text and
I always fall back on this, we believe that he
of course, according to Text, I believe everything.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
But with that being said, though you an demon, you
do condre.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
You try to yeah. Text. You know, that's another story. Text.
I'm not going to get in that one he had
had his I will say this text he had one
of his poor buddies get attacked by a demon. I
don't know if it was on purpose. I don't if
you're mad at the guy at the time. Text anyways,
yeah you did. But we always say we believe that

(50:46):
people are seeing something. The question is what is it.
If you go out the forest intent on looking at bigfoot,
finding bigfoot, and you can, like I don't want to
use the word conjured, but you can probably trick your
mind into thinking you've seen bigfoot. If that's what you
think about, you eat, sleep and dream, Oh god, I'm

(51:07):
going on this camping trip looking for bigfoot. I mean,
some people can almost manifest this falsely.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Woh well, I mean manifestation I think is a very
real thing for us, that we can manifest pretty profound things.
But there's also just just basic psychology. They got a
confirmation bias, right, Like they're going to see a big foot. Well,
no matter what they see, they're going to attribute that
to a bigfoot in some cases, you know, I mean,
certainly that's the other side of it. Is that people

(51:34):
that want so bad to see something, whatever they see
is going to correlate to what they want to see,
you know, So there's always that consideration too.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Absolutely, Text, I know you're pondering over there, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
But who has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Is it something profound do you like to share with
or is it something to do with personal Uh?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I was just reading the chat and I'm like, what's
going on, a little patty?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Oh well, thanks Text for joining us. I'm being attached
to this time, high little Patty. Hello to everybody. Thanks
for coming on and appreciate all you guys.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
I try to pay attention, you know, I mean everyone's wing.
I'm really bad about paying attention. What's in chat? Though?
It just caught my eye. But what were all talking about?

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Well, we were talking about the lifespan of the kangaroo.
H No, these beings really come from you hear that story?
What do you think that was? Neither there's a fevere
The guy's imagination saw something, but it wasn't, you know,
headed monsters, human heads on legs coming down from the
mountains from the from the beautiful colors turned into an

(52:52):
ominous fog. That rolled out these creatures. Did it come
from a portal? Did it come from anywhere? Did the
guy I don't know falsely and dream it all of them?
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I think any of that's possible. You know, I wasn't there.
That's the big key, you know. And and we're we're
very big proponents. All three ofisodes are very big proponents
of you know, just because I didn't experience something doesn't
mean it didn't happen. Sure, I don't. To your point

(53:27):
about the whole manifestation thing, I want to take it
a step further. And and y'all heard me talk about
this before, but when you were when you were saying, Rob,
when you go out and you're you're looking for this
and you really want to see it and everything, I
mean that that leads right into the whole mind speak thing.

(53:50):
You know, how do we know? It's a big but
you know, how do we? I mean, parandoma want to
want spiritually gonna lie to you. They're gonna pretend to
be loved ones, They're gonna pretend to be kids and
that type of thing because they can get their foot
in the door. Because they don't. You're you're more apt

(54:12):
to communicate with something like that that looks you know,
not scary or whatever, or something that you really want
to communicate with. You're waving at me.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
No, just every time somebody says hi in the chat,
I just wave rather than trying.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
To wave back at you. But so, if if these
things can, if these things nowhere in mind, why not,
why wouldn't they do that? Why wouldn't they pretend to
be something that we so much want to communicate with,

(54:50):
We want to have an experience with. You know me,
it's no different.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
So I think, yeah, what do you do with it?

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I mean, you know, as far as this guy's seeing this,
you know, it's not the first time we've heard about
these creatures materializing out of these beautiful lights and orbs
and everything like this. So I said, as it possible?

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Hell yeah, you know you brought up some of the
texts I want to ask you or give you my
thought on this. Okay, I've said this once, like a
long time ago. If I wish to come back as
a spirit or a ghost, I would be one of
those tricksters. I would, but I wouldn't do it in

(55:44):
a mean way. I would just play jokes on people.
I think if I had that ability, I would It's
just me. Now the other flip side of this, can
we even be talking about areas where maybe people have
passed maybe these ares unkept sanctuary where there's like people

(56:06):
that haven't gone to the other side or got brought over,
crossed over, and they know kind of what we're into,
and they decide, because they're all ticked off because they
can't get where they want to go, that they portray
themselves as something that they're not just a trick you
frighten you. Maybe they're nice to anyone that make you have
a good day while I find yourselves some cryptid. I

(56:29):
wondering if that really does take place with some of
these spiritual elements, why wouldn't I just wonder. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
I'm not saying I don't think I got all of
the round possibility at all.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Yeah, yeah, sure could be. I mean there's certainly many
many cases of spirits that they can look seven feet tall,
they can look nine feet tall, they can look like they're,
you know, the size of a little gnome or or
an orb Maybe, so I think they can look however

(57:04):
they want. And certainly, I mean I think if I
was if I was stuck here, I'd be doing I'd
be doing that too, hold my beer or watch this,
you know, I'd be seeing what I could do and uh,
you know, getting a rise out of people again, just
much like you, not in a horrible way, but just enough.
This would be fun. You know, see how see how

(57:25):
they react to this. But yeah, I think I think
that certainly there's plenty of plenty of cases of mimics,
things appearing like something. I think one of the big
things that the darker spirits, and I don't think that
they're you know, that they're necessarily demons, but I think
they they pretend to be because they just want to
scare people. I think that, you know, they claim to

(57:47):
be you know, everything from Satan to a demon to whatever,
just to get you to leave them the hell alone.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
You know. I also think to you that oftentimes people
throughout that we're demon too freely yea early the amount
of demons.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
No, no, I mean look at YouTube. Look at YouTube
videos and the paranormal. The word demon will come up
like ninety percent of the time because it's freaking clickbait.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Yeah, yeah it is. But I will tell you this,
if I I used I threw out the couple of
demon hashtags do it a couple of shows, and I
learned this a long time ago. I will tell you this.
If I included it like the title of a show
I did not hardly know, people watch the show really
like you're seeing people in the chat room. That's from
my experiences. I put dog Man in the title. Well,

(58:33):
you know it's it goes off the rails, even more
so than even Bigfoot, because dog Man is this sexy,
cryptid right, it's that mysterious being.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Yeah, I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
It's that militant creature created in the forest beneath the
ground and these underground dumbs that are released and they're
part of the four to one one the missing. That's
what the militant dog Man is, which, by the way,
I mean could joke of that, but I think that
does go on today. I believe that one hundred percent.
Even like spoofed it a little bit O.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Nathan from Quantum from The Quantum Show says dog mimic.
He says, I can see that, or you know, I
can see that being scary. That actually has happened to people.
I know Amy and Laney from conversations with the curious.
They were up in Brown Spring Cemetery before they knew

(59:31):
exactly what they were dealing with them there, and they
kept hearing puppies whining.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
You know, luckily, I think. And it could have been
it could have been some baby codes of ben some
baby boxes, could have been anything. But I think luckily

(01:00:03):
they did not go looking for because we don't know.
You know, we've heard stories of being led astray, being
lured into the woods. So you know, my my suggestion

(01:00:24):
would be, you hear something like that, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Yeah, you do if you hear a little baby crying
from the woods, right. A lot of people say, don't go,
it's not a baby.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Well I'm going.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
I think that we would as as human beings as
people care about others. Yeah, I'm going as well, even
though a lot of people advise you aguess. I mean,
why is there a baby in the middle of the woods,
in the forest, you know, at three o'clock in the morning.
The chances are could have gotten lost with his parents camping.
I doubt it, but that's nothing without the element of possibility.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
What if it's a little squatch lit you know, like
the nice one, you know, like a little baby one,
and that's what you're hearing because I think similarities.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Let me ask you this, if it was yeah, would
you want to be the one to pick it up
and mama find it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Oh? Hell no helton and on that one?

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Yeah, no, no, no, would you want to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Come up in a baby cub bear? And it wasn't?
I bite?

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
So mm, because mama's around somewhere, she's dead.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
I want to yeah, yeah, you know, isn't there there's
a crypta that actually out in Alaska. It could be
anywhere in the world. I suppose that's actually uh mimics
women cries of women being lost in the woods where
literally gets you and drags and is at the tree.

(01:02:03):
It's always at the tree line along the ocean in Alaska.
I think it is that the key one out peninsula.
We heard about this one can I I think it
does Ken Peninsula well. From the at the base of
the water into the forest, there would be the screams
of or the cries out of women I'm lost, help
me sound just like women. I suppose the outer man,

(01:02:26):
the outer man, I think it is, he grabs him.
He grabs the human looking for the woman and drags
them to the bottom of the ocean.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Well you start talking about that, you start talking about
you know, you can get into the siren aspect of that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Yeah, well for sure, luing you to your death the siren.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
But you know, and Keith said, Keith says, yeah, I
text you do that once. Well maybe, but let me
ask you this, No me personally, I think Robin and yeah,
the same way. If I hear a young child of
any age in the woods, I'm gonna do my best

(01:03:08):
located because could it be something scary? Could it be
hm impending doom? Could it be I'm going to do
it once. Could be?

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
But or if you didn't go and then he found out, and.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Then he found out you had left the little child
in the woods and they hasted away, I couldn't. I
would have a hard time dealing with that. So yeah,
I'm not gonna leave a chance. I will any day
of the week. And this is probably gonna get me
in trouble any day of the week. I'm going to

(01:03:50):
if I have if if, if, if I have to,
I will sacrifice my life for a child.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Oh sure, yeah, we all would. I mean I would
out my way so I could anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
But I will say this if you're gonna lure me
out in the woods, you better be ready for a fight.
You better pack a lunch, yeah, because you you you
might win, but you're gonna limp back home. I guarantee
you that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
But that's my take on that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Yeah, No, I I appreciate that too, because could you
live with not helping if someone really did need help?

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
That's right?

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Yeah, yeah, So I think you're absolutely right. I think
you know. And maybe that's that's why why they choose
to sound that way, is because they know that any
normally wired person is going to hear that and be like,
I've got to go help this child. I mean, that's
just it's like a moral imperative. You can't just unwire

(01:04:58):
that in your mind and just be like, no, I'm
sitting here, sitting here, quiet, quick graying. You know, you
gotta know, you gotta know. I just I just advocate. Look,
if you're going to be out there anywhere where you're
dealing with what could be cryptids, make sure you're prepared,
make sure you got some hardware or something at least
put up a good fight in case it does come back.

(01:05:21):
You know, are you gonna win? Well? Probably, not, but
maybe you can make it a bad experience for them,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
About doing it again.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Yeah, exactly, because I mean there's so many cases, so
many cases where it seems exceptionally clear that Bigfoot recognize
what firearms are. Now why do they recognize that? Probably
because they've been planked at or they know, like some
family members been shot or something like that, and they
know what that means that those you know, those thundersticks,

(01:05:52):
they hurt a lot and they're not good, so they
avoid them, and like anything in nature, it's going to
go out of its way to keep from getting harmed
because if you get harmed, you may not be able
to survive.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
So exactly exactly, you know, I just think be prepared.
In fact, we talked about before, you know, I think
sasquatch is, you know, the way they view humans and
the way they interact with them varies from troop to troop,

(01:06:24):
or sasquatch to soasquatch. Even because if Grandpa Bigfoot was
shot in the ass and the late eighteen hundreds and
he grew and he raised her, you know, all his
family to to you know, not lack of so much
on there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Yeah, yeah, not that I'm advocating shooting at these things
for no reason, but if no comes down to it,
if it comes down to it, then you've got no
other options. Okay, roll the dice. You got nothing to lose.
But yeah, yeah, I think that that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Thank you, Diana, Diane. Sorry, Texts, I have to say,
you did some good singing on the Blonde Show. I
don't know about good, but I did some singing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Oh boy. But those that you that have access to
Facebook or maybe members of the Blondes, you can check
out text vocals. He did a nice rendition of Cowboy
with Rock. Here's the other ones I can't mention.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Yeah, y'all go we get off air. Y'all gonna have
to bring that up and play it for me because
I haven't heard those yet.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
I know if I could do it, I'll say, I'll
figure it out. Yeah there, you haven't seen him yet? Well,
blind and both have them on their on their actual
their members only page. You're your member of them or no?

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Well, yeah, but I mean they've only got one. I
got this easy top one on there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
I see, I got I see the kid rock one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Yeah, I saw that one that was supposed on Facebook.
But you don't have Facebook text.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
So yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't have Facebook
and don't sit because I still can't watch it on Facebook. Right,
It's not my fault, but Facebook hates me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Yeah, they don't like text.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
He gets manned just thinking about starting a page.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Do you know? Yeah, guy comes, it enters his mind
and he's already taken off.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Mark Zuckerberg is mentally challenging. Don't even think it? Yeah, ay, text?
Thinking about where these things come from.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I know we've got a few newer people I noticed
in the chair room, And I know a lot of
people haven't heard all these because I know that they
don't watch all the shows. Where do you think that
prowler crawler came from? Man, the investigation of that dog
Man ranch? That another new spot you found? What the
hell do you think that was? Where did that come from?

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
And I had no clue. I asked him. He didn't
talk to him. I asked him. But I'm not done
with him. I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
M hm.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
You know what's interesting? So you described that one as
being very dark, like you know, usually when you hear
about the crawlers, they're pale, they're usually light, and then
you were the first one that I've ever heard mentioned
the dark one. But I will tell you this, I
ran across the story and when I find it, I'll
send it to you from I think Phantoms and Monsters

(01:09:33):
where somebody else saw a dark crawler. So I will
send you that link once I figure out where the
hell I saw it for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Maybe there's different kinds of pale.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Yeah, right right, And you know, I'm sure the pale
ones stick out like sore thumb, but the dark ones,
you know, it would be just a fleeting shadow and
you wouldn't even catch it. Well, but it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Wasn't like dark. It was like, okay, like when you
burn you know, burn wood down, you get the gray ash, right,
it was just a darker version of that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Sure, that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Yeah, just a dark gray.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
You know, I'm saying it was either playing a trick
on me or I had bad intentions for me, wanted two.
I don't know it because.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Then you go, you guys, leave me alone. I'm gonna
stick here and do my thing. You've got balls of titanium, Texas.
All I'm gonna say a uh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Yeah, I don't know that, just me I just do
my thing. It's is, and uh, that's let me reached
out and grab your palt leg was just something else though.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Well, according to Unerson's wire, it looked like the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Wow, here's something that I couldn't process. Came out and
grabbed me. Literally, that would be that freaked me out
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
Definitely one of those Scooby Doo moments, like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I knew what it was, i'd be fine with it,
but you're talking about some we don't know what the
heck this thing was.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, that's crazy. It's it's just such a unique description.
And then I saw it again. I was like, whoa,
I can corroborate it now, which is neat because when
you hear one off, like whenever I hear one off stories,
it's like, well, I've never heard anything throughout my body
of research for years and years. To corroborate that, but

(01:11:49):
then to hear yours was was unusual. But then to
run across another claim, it's like, oh my gosh, okay,
well this is not that I didn't believe you, but
it was just such a unique experience to you, and
that's what I thought. Wow, I'd not heard of that before.
But then to hear it again referenced in an article
that's I think it's still open on my computer somewhere,

(01:12:11):
but I'll find that and i'll send it to you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Okay. Yeah. My plan is when we go back, and
I'm hoping to get back this month. I don't know.
I got a lot of stuff going. But uh, my
plan is because when I go out there, I usually
I spend multiple days and nights out there. So I'm
going to set up a secondary camp site and camp

(01:12:35):
out there at that at that barn for at least
at night. Okay, yeah, by myself. So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Be careful.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Yeah, well Brett texasn't very careful. You know. He made
the comment that I said he canjers demons. Well he doesn't,
although he he tries to fight them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Oh well call them out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Yeah, you got to shout at the devil, right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Little Moley Crewe reference.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Yep. Oh, I mean that's you know, that's built on
the you know, religious predicatet. It's like, you know, command
it to yell at that get it?

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
You know? True? But yeah, don't show fear, they say,
try not to all these all of the nefarious things
feed on your fear.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
Yeah, that's what they say. Yeah, and I would say
that at the very least, when you show fear, you're surrendering.
You know, you're when you're surrendering to fear, you're actually
surrendering to the dominion or or the will of this thing.
You're letting it be superior to you. And you can't
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Yet what they say, yeah, you're actually when you surrender,
if you show fear, surrendering, surrendering, and so these nefarious
things suggest that you're you lost your belief system. Well, right,
you believe in the higher power of some sort. You're
not right, you're eradicating that out of your process, your
thought process would leaves you vulnerable.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Faith. It's a powerful thing, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
He says, check plangthrower, check.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Tank check.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
I don't think prett I've ever asked you throughout your
career doing your thing? Uh huh, You've never had a
Have you ever had a physical altercation with anything touch
you or really felt that that heavy presence?

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
And uh oh I felt plenty of heavy presences. Yeah,
I mean I felt I felt pure evil before. It
was just not comfortable. But I also you know, I
if if it's just in terms of being someplace that
I don't need to be. If I feel that, I
just don't stay, you know, I don't. I don't go

(01:14:58):
out of my way to challenge these start things. But
I have been I've been pushed before, and this was
actually only a couple of years ago, the first time
I've been scratched. But I think I showed the images
of that. I remember, Yeah, so that happened right here
in the studio. But the time that I was pushed
was it was interesting. I was actually doing. Uh we'd

(01:15:21):
gone to the conference in Vernal, Utah, and after that conference,
we befriended Roman and Jary Daniels, who are the creators
and hosts of Supernatural Station podcasts, and they're like, hey,
our family has some weird activity going on on this
property and you went to base and it's near skin
Walker Ranch, the location. They said, would you want to

(01:15:42):
come check it out? I'm like, yeah, yeah, I want
to do that. So when we when we went down
a couple of years ago, I packed all my all
my gear and we went and investigated and we had
this this I mean, it was incredibly energetic place. There
was just like I have a rempod, and my rempod
would not stop screaming no matter where I put it. It
was just lights going, and I'm like, god, I thought

(01:16:05):
it was broke, like something had happened during my trip
down there. So I shut it off and and you know,
we're getting weird K two hits and stuff EMF spikes,
and I set up the flashlight test and we got
some incredible real time responses on off on command, you know,
where it was just giving us information that it was

(01:16:27):
a guardian spirit. It was old, hundreds and hundreds centuries old.
It had been a part of this land since the Utes,
the Ute native tribes, and it was a guardian of
the land, and it was apparently not happy about this.
You know, the houses being developed in there, and they
weren't houses, they were like cabins. But there was these
cabins around and that's why I was kind of raising

(01:16:48):
hell with the family. So and I was like, you know,
please be peaceful, please, you don't understand these people, come
in love and respect them, whatever. And we had a
beautiful moment. But during that Jaren, the guy from Superna
Natural Station, was standing right next to me and he's
like like this, and he shoots forward and like what happened?
He goes, Oh my god, I was just shoved. I
was pushed and there was nothing behind him. And I

(01:17:09):
was like, oh wow, that's that's crazy. So it was
a physical thing, and you know, that was kind of powerful.
But I just you know, it was his experience, not mine.
I didn't get touched or anything. But we got done
there and you know, I did a closing, uh ceremony
of sorts and uh it was really a cool experience.

(01:17:30):
But I went all the way back forty five minute
drive away back to vernal Utah to the hotel hotel
and I was with Don at the time, and Don crashed.
I mean he was out like a light, just saw
on logs and I'm just like, we don't okay. I
brush my teeth, getting ready and two beds by the way.
We ever know, God it all that prayermise, But what's that? Yeah,

(01:17:54):
Well you know I'm not that easy text. You get,
well you heard wrong. Well that's there. I do require
dinner first, but I was I just went and I
finally laid down it and I was getting relaxed and
I'm laying on my side. I'm a side sleep or
something laying on my side, just relaxing, starting to just

(01:18:15):
twind down, about to drift off and no kid, and
something suddenly just shoved me and I went over on
my I like, got shoved over in bed and I'm
suddenly faced down. I'm like, and I went from zero
to pissed because for me, that's a big thing. When
something reaches out and touches you. It crossed a line.
And I started cussing like a trucker. I'm like, you

(01:18:36):
cannot do that. I'm saying all kinds of expletives and
I'm like, you know, I'm just raging because something actually
shoved me. And you know, I said it couldn't be there, mate,
you know, all the prayers and all that stuff, and
cast it out and that was it. But it was
the one time when I've been shoved.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
So what about you, Rob?

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
Rob, what about you?

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Not physically touched?

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Felt darkness? Of course you guys heard those stories, but yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Know, I think my favorite story, I think my favorite
encounter yours. I don't don't call it story. My favorite
encounter of yours is the one where you were in
the bar and there were people and they're having drinks.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Oh yeah, that was fantastic. I did this not brunch.
That was crazy to see, you know. And what was
great about that? For those that didn't hear that story,
it's kind of lie. I'm not going to just the
nuts and bulls and Brent Stard this Texas her a
lot of people might have heard it. I yeah, I
had to encountered four ghosts literally in my bar that

(01:19:50):
were When I looked at these things, they were transparent
and they they appeared to be from the like the gangs,
the gangster era, from like the days of prohibition. That's
how they were dressed, right, and they were I could
see right through them to the other side of the bar.
And it was late at night when I was getting

(01:20:10):
ready to close up. I came up from the office
downstairs and I heard all this weird noise. A couple
of times I checked and there was nothing there. Then
like the second or third time, I go look and
there's apparitions at the end of the bar, and the
entire bar was cleaned everybody. All the beer bottles are gone, shotglasses,
drink glasses are all gone, put away like we do

(01:20:30):
before we close. And there was a bottle of whiskey
and a shotglass in front of these two guys, and
there was two women. They looked like flappers. There's a
bottle of wine there, physical bottles and glasses. And I
get closer to these things. I'm not scared. I go forward.
I'm very intrigued because by this time I've seen so

(01:20:52):
many things in my life that it didn't scare me.
But the thing that was I do, guys, is when
the one I finally got their attention because I took
my hand at the other end of the bar to
kind of hey, I'm here, because they were just talking
about themselves and these whispers and the one apparition of
the man. He put his ghostly hand around the shotglass

(01:21:14):
and it lifted it elevated and had whiskey in it,
you guys, and elevated up no more than a foot,
and then it kind of slipped out of his hand. Crash,
just shattered on top of the bar. Now again, shotglasses
were one foot To drop on top of a bar
counter is not going to shatter to a million pieces.

(01:21:35):
They're very sturdy, they're very thick. You got to take
it in your hand and literally gun it at the
cement Florida bust it up like that, dispersed all over
and now I'm just enthralled at this, and I'm looking
down at these apparitions, and they both, all of these
four kind of look over at me, and they already
were transparent, but then all of a sudden, they started

(01:21:57):
slowly fade away, slowly, and they kind of almost morphed
into like almost like SKELETONI ish and vanished, and sure
enough I go down to the end of the bar,
and yeah, it was actual whiskey. It was the actual glass.
And I seen where the bottle was taken from from

(01:22:18):
the inventory. It was moved from the back of the
bottles like it was being sneaky and brought it to
the front. And the wineglasses had elements of wine in
the glasses. And it was from these apparitions, these ghosts
from the past, and it was prompted me to do
further research around the bar, and then I found out

(01:22:40):
I never knew this prior, but this bar, the foundation
of this bar has been there since like the twenties,
as you said, Brunt, and it was there doing prohibition
and this bar was actually there doing bootlegging days. So
this activity went on so My theory is that these
were just people perhaps patron this bar back in the day,

(01:23:02):
or the Speak Easy whatever, and that was the their hangout,
and they visited this place again for whatever the reason. Right.
I don't know what the technical word for that is,
but yeah, but then when I did that research, it
was certainly there, so I can only ascertain it was
ghosts from the past. Now, prior to this, a lot

(01:23:23):
of the employees are telling me that they always heard
weird things but never seen anything. It just kind of
culmminated whatever the word is. Culminated culminated with of course me,
of course, how long did you own the bar by
the time this happened, Rob, How long were you warning?
Thats my eleventh year year old Yeah, yeah, but throughout

(01:23:46):
never anything weird for the first four or five years.
Then there was rumblings that employees would tell me that
late at night, glasses would fall out of the kitchen cabin,
out of the back kitchen cabins and break many times.
They know, they cleaned the tops of the bars off,
they would take all the glassware away, all the bottles,

(01:24:07):
and right before again, like me, when they went to leave,
there'd be a couple of bottles around and then they
would hear voices and whispers at night and they would
tell me about it. And I worked ten am to
ten at night pretty much seven days a week. I
rarely worked the night shift. This particular week, I worked
the night shift because I was intrigued, for one by

(01:24:29):
some of these stories they were starting to come out
come about, and also a person. I gave the night
off and I spent the whole week there working the
night shift. You know where I closed up. And it
was maybe on the third or fourth night, in fact,
that night that this all happened. I couldn't go to sleep.
I didn't even go home. I spent the night at

(01:24:50):
the bar waiting for the employees coming the next morning
and told them, you guys, guess what I saw.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
You'll never guess what happened. Yeah, well that's kind of neat, though,
I mean, to actually see them and to see that
physical interaction, yeah, hand is so rare. That's such an
unamazing experience.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Yeah, that was amazing. I got to tell you what
my counter I had cadillact with the alleged Bigford or
whatever it was. That was creepy, scary. Yeah, but I
don't know which one I liked better was probably the
ghost story because it didn't end in tragedy, you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
Know, yeah, absolutely, I think that's a you know, it's
a one in a billion experience, you know, really, you know,
seeing them there and seeing them interact physically with objects,
and even the fact that they snuck your whiskey out
of the back. I mean, yeah, they.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
Took it from the back, like they're being sneaky, like.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Hey, let's go hit the whiskey.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
You'll never know that, and I and I know, because
you know, you have to run your business recording, You've
got to know all your inventory, and I knew exactly
where they took it from there being sneaky, and Text
always says, you know, it's kind of weird, Like you said,
I see these ghosts. I've seen that physical experience. And

(01:26:08):
then text says, yeah, I'm one of the few guys
I seen a bigfoot during daytime, vocalize at me right
during the day, which a lot of people can't make
claims to at least there's very few. And then also
now see this manifestation right before my eyes of a
now one not too before goss from the past I've

(01:26:31):
had amongst my other things I've experienced throughout my life,
you know, so I've had a very, yeah, vivid life
when it comes to these things.

Speaker 2 (01:26:44):
Did you ever do or try to look in to
see if there was any murders at the bar back
in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
I just specifically looked that up. I'm sure it might
have been flagged, I'd have to I can only speculate
that during that time of year, time of year, well
during that year, during that time period, I'm speculating that
maybe there was, but I couldn't find anything. Not that
I look forward to answer your question directly, but not
that I'm aware of, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Yeah, yeah, just my virtue of being a speak easy
and that there being such a heavy prohibition.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
I'm sure I'm sure there's many a gunfight that probably
went down.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Yeah, yeah, you have to think so. Yeah, I'm sure
there was mafia ties involved in all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
But yeah, and you know that even El Capone had
a hideaway here Upper Michigan where he used to It
was a secluded back in the woods, and it was
a bar restaurant that only his gang went to. And
in fact, I think that John Dillinger also had a
similar operation. I think that dyllans'er and the Compone we're

(01:27:52):
in different eras. I'm not sure, Okay, so they he
also had something in Michigan as well. A lot of
people suggested a lot of Dillager's money was buried up
north somewhere along with Compone and all these people. So yeah,
a lot of times of Michigan off people that go

(01:28:13):
they find these stories online, they'll go try looking for
the buried money, sure or whatever. They near bank robbers
for the well, Villager was a bank robber. Capone was
just into everything.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
You know. There was a dinner club in Michigan when
I lived out there or when I visited out there
that was allegedly al Capones as well. And that place
was crawling with secret passageways. We were younger, like teenagers,
and we would go through all the snecret patches passages
and you know, these hidden wall doors and stuff, and
it was like you'd end up in a weird cubby

(01:28:45):
in the back and it was really fascinating. But it
was like it was like a sports club now or then,
and uh and it was you know, I mean it
was members only, so we were like there wasn't It
wasn't like a problem that we were looking around. It
wasn't like we're breaking the rules. But I was fascinated
by the whole Oh this is the house, but wait,

(01:29:07):
there's more. And then there were secret passages and hidden
rooms and stuff. That's that's fascinating to me.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Oh it is, Yeah, I was just I like history.
History is fascinating, you know, especially about when you do
the history out like the bar or your own house
or you know, it's always something we all. I'm more
prevalent and more open to checking out history moving forward
if I ever buy anything bigger house or whatever, just

(01:29:38):
or property, is to investigate what's happening, Just like the
Cadillac Michigan encounter. Wanted to tainted land one hundred miles
north of there, and I found out and I never
thought of that. You know, the longer you do this stuff,
the more ideas people give you to to look into. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Yeah, absolutely so.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
Yeah, but yeah a lot of crazy, creepy things and
it didn't happen just after Bigfoot. I've seen a lot
of things prior to the Bigfoot, you know, as a kid, Ufo,
ghost this, that, and the other shadow people. So I've
got something that follows me around. I don't know, yeah
for sure, sure, And then of course this is what
I'm doing now today.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
It's all brought to you to hear Rob. It's all.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
I've come full circle. But this has been a great show, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Well thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
I had a good time. But you know, I'm family,
so you are family.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
I don't have to call it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
They don't thank us anymore. Remember that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
I have to thank thank my audience though, thanks for
coming on in. Please subscribe to Bigfoot Michigan, Rob Texas
front Port, Brent Thomas, the Paranormal Portal on YouTube. Like
it on your way out, and it always never fails.
When we're getting ready to shut down a show, we
maximize our chat people over. Yeah you know you guys.

(01:30:58):
I started one o'clock Sharpe in the East on Thursdays,
nine o'clock Sharply on Tuesdays, and just that and the
other and U and text of course is nine o'clock
sharp on Mondays and Brent shre on how many days
a week, three times a week.

Speaker 3 (01:31:13):
Three times a week for live shows Wednesday, Friday, Saturday.
And I do a podcast that's available everywhere and those
are released on Mondays. This week, I'm doing Brandy, so
it's a two parter, so I released part one on Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Part two.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Yeah, you know you leave it up for text. It's
not it's not Saturday Night. It's not Saturday Night show.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
That my my My guest this week is Brandy, my
YouTube show, and I've created a two parts podcast episodes
of that, so watch for it everywhere you get podcasts.

Speaker 2 (01:31:59):
I'm doing something new next week.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
You are text and what's this now? Pretty tell?

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Uh am going to start doing Waking Up Weird five
days a week.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Oh in the morning, ten o'clock or what time you
come on ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:32:14):
Eight eight am Central.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Yep, so call me Night of the East, get you Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:32:26):
Paul will be showing up when he can, and I
have somebody else that's going to be showing up when
they can. Good and that is Kristen Peyton.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Oh great, Yeah, she does have those cool hours to
do that. I don't she thinks cool.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
You don't need me, is what you're seeing?

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Yeah, baby that It'll be five o'clock in the morning
for you. Branch.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Anyways, I love your text, but I am not that
much I have limits to my love.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Hey, quick shout out to Andy Alien eight UK. Go
check him out. He's got a great channel. Go check
out Andy my buddy from the UK show him so love.
He's got a pretty cool show. He's got a paranormal
cryptid type show as well from the UK. Check out
Alien eight UK. Thanks for showing up, Andy, Thanks to

(01:33:23):
everybody for showing up. As I said, leave hit that
like button on your way out. Subscribe. You can see
me Tuesday nights, Thursday afternoons, Friday night, Friday evenings. Now
I'm doing a Friday evening show at six thirty and
Saturday at eleven with the Gales and sometimes texts. So yeah,
we got a lot going on. Turn on your alert
bells is all I can suggest so you don't miss
an episode. And of course, event bright if you have

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Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
I just took it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
Outside that It was like a an audience member had
Steven and you rolled with it and why not?

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
Awesome?

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Well, I took a page out of your you know,
marketing book.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
There, thank you read it a little further, a little
you got you know, you read a little bit more.
Baby steps, baby, yes, one step at a time for Brent.
For text, this is BMR until next time. We're out.
Oh that's the logo. It's not the I'm pulling a
text move here, here we go, see you guys later.

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