Brunch with Bigfoot Michigan Rob - Ep 133 - BMR | BRENT THOMAS | Paranormal Portal - Brunch with Bigfoot Michigan Rob

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello everybody. Hopefully you can hear me clearly, No lag,
this is me. I'm our brunch with Bigfoot Mission Rob
along with Brent Thomas. Today I'm going to forewarn everybody
I have low power in my area. Yes, that's right,
I do, so hopefully it doesn't affect the show. I

(00:23):
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bring up Brent. It's me, Hey Brett before we get started.

(01:56):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh thanks brother. Yeah, I I made another solar lap.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
So I got that heavy birthday, mister Thomas. That's extent
my singing heavy.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Birth love it. Even a little jazzy twist.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I like that, Yeah, a little twist. You know BMR
has got many hidden talents.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, I appreciate it. Thank you. It's you know, I mean,
as you get older, maybe birthdays are a lot less
significant or just a reminder of your own mortality. But
you know I got some. I'm still here, so that's good.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
You're still here. And you know, in my family, you know,
we don't have the big celebration. I guess you have
the celebration at thirty or maybe sweet sixteen, then maybe
it's thirty, and then after that fiftieth birthday party, you
know what, Okay, no more parties. If I hit the
century mark, perhaps, but you know, I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
But we all get do you have the century market?

Speaker 1 (02:59):
No? Not to say.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Rob's got leg spikes, guys, So we're just gonna have
to keep going, even in his legging mess. But we'll
make the show happen.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah, we'll face that. Can you hear me? I'm over fifty?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, okay, yeah, so you're you're in my range.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I'm in the fifties. When I hit fifty, I said,
you know what, I'm done counting birthdays.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, I hit fifty six today, and which is okay
because I'm extraordinarily immature, so it all averages out. Maybe
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I you know, I tell you what I'm I turned
fifty January.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Oh nice?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Oh oh yeah, fifty. I'm like, man, fifty.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, you know what, Rob, just five short years and
you'll be you'll be in my situation. This is on
my I've just discovered and I missed almost a year
of it, but I just discovered that I now qualify
for senior discounts.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah. Well I turned fifty, I got an application for
the good old AARP card. You know what that is? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I'm like, who you know get audi here? You know?
I no, no, thank you? Yeah, well, I guess they
offer you a ten percent discounts. And all those old folks.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Restaurants where they got the old food.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah. Well, I got to tell you though, even when
I was in my thirties, I liked Bill Naps and
every time you know what.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Bill Naps is, I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, okay, no, they're they're no longer in business, but
it was where the old people went. But they had
the best chicken tortilla soup.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh nice, Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I used to get that like a lunchtime on my
job all the time. But every time you walked in,
it was all the silver hairs, you know. And I
would in my thirties though, so you know.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
You have to actually wear your sunglasses in there.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, you know, you got to get the old ladies
with the big yeah rectangular you know, oh yeah, the entire.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Face, the big mask goggles.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah. I'm like, did you have lace six surgery? No,
I'm just so no, I'm just old young man.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
You're waiting for them to pull out the stick and
start feeling their way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, gotcha. Well
yeah we're still here though.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Now we're here. And but I will say about getting older,
I feel I still feel the same like in my twenties.
I mean mentally, you know. Yes, I don't feel like
any different, That's the truth.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
The only thing that feels different is the aches and pains,
right like the like when you're younger, you just kind
of pop out of the chair and do whatever. And
now you got to sit there and have a discussion
with yourself, Well do I do I really need to
go to the bathroom? Or could I wait a little bit?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
You can weigh it out, like is it important right now?
I think I can hold it?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, yeah I can. Well, here's the thing that I've
realized over the last couple of years. It's always like clockwork.
I always I'm always getting up around five in the
morning to use the latrine, if you will, sure, sure
you know, it's like, really you can't wait another two

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hours before you actually have to get up. Then he
can't fall back to sleep.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Oh sure, you know?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's I guess that's a sign right there. Well, the
eggs of pains. I why isn't knee surgery on my
left and right knee throughout the last decade. And I
must tell you getting on my knees like in the yard,
if I'm planning things in the yard, I tell you
what after you're on your knees after surgery, and both
they both of them are a little arthritic, the doctor

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told me. But if I'm on my knees for like
twenty thirty minutes, you know, walking on my knees, I
must tell you, it's hard to get up, stand up.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
You know, Yeah it is. I've had my knees rebuilt,
my left knee especially rebuilt several times. Uh a c
al tears and stuff. But yeah, I definitely feel the
same way. It's like, yeah, the these are the these
are rough.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Well, Gary Spikes, who's in the house. He he made
me a walking stick. Gary Spikes sr. Well, he makes
them and he and he sells them and he gives
them to his friends. He takes them cool. He takes
some the conferences and he got me one. Uh he
made me one of the last conference that I saw.
Gary at and so I have that a special spot

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when I know I need to get up because the
stick he bought me is damn near taller than I am.
But it's awesome. It's really sweet. He's got my name
engraved in it, and I can I use that to
plot around and get up sometimes.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
So oh yeah, cool.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, So it's a yeah, I'll have that forever. Thank
you to Pops. We call him Pops affectionately around here. Yeah,
And he does a great job. And by the way,
check him out because he does make them, does a nice,
nice job. And really briefly, Brown, we got that conference
coming up which you're a part of right before you know.

(08:10):
It's September nineteenth and twentieth will be here and uh,
Brad's gonna be a feature guest and I'm looking forward
to meeting in person. That'll be awesome, everybody.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
I'm looking forward to it too. You get another leg spike,
But yeah, it's it's the time will fly. There's no
question like it'll you'll blink and it'll be September, which
is unfortunate because you know, this is my favorite seasons,
the warm ones. But I'm really looking forward to this.
This is it's it's evolved so much in the you know,
in the last several months, and it's become, uh, this incredible,

(08:43):
incredible event. So I'm really looking forward to it. And
all you guys you know, I've been, we've been, We've
been intertwined in our shows and our and our friendships
for a long time. But I've never met any of
you guys.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
So yeah, I know, and I love these simply because
of the fact that they get to meet you, guys
will meeting you for the first time. Yeah. And what's
really cool though, is like people that have been following
all of our shows throughout the years, a lot of
them show up and you get to meet them. You
get to put the the name behind Fisher of Spam,

(09:16):
like Fisher of Spam. I met him in Alabama. Oh
and yeah, he was a cool guy. And a lot
of people and I can't name them all. There's a
many that I've met, which is pretty awesome.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
So yeah, I'd like to do a lot more conferences
just for that purpose, Like I would like to have
a chance to meet these these wonderful people who keep
showing up and you know, they're taking part in all
the events, they're super chatting they're contributing conversationally or questions
or whatever, and it's just an honor to have a
chance to, you know, thank him in person and just

(09:48):
to you know, shoot the shit if you will.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know, yeah, no, absolutely, I love that the most.
I mean, yeah, you know, conferences, a conference, a lot
of cool speakers, a lot of great information. But I'm
a people person. I just love meeting with the people
that I've kind of known for a couple of years
via the internet, you know, on the show, which is awesome.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, that's really cool. So I'm really looking forward to it.
I'm not necessarily looking forward to a twenty two hour
drive each way, separated by just a few days of conference.
But oh, thank you, Denise. I appreciate your donation. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Thank you, Denise. It is awesome. And yeah, so that
is great. And you know, speaking of being a people person,
I pretty much, like I said, I am, and I
must tell you, Brent that I you know a little bit,
the more you get to know me, I always people
always come up to me. It's like I'm a magnet

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for Like, I have a sign on my back or
tattooed on my forehead that says please talk to me.
And this has been throughout my entire life. I've pre
podcasting just throughout life, right, But I must say this,
since I started doing podcasting, I live for interesting people myself.

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I find myself and if I think there's something about them,
I will kind of start small talk. And it's typically
in the grocery store line, you know, when you're just
hanging out instead of being on your phone. I'll just
try to spark up a conversation, and people do the
same to me for whatever the reason. And I've picked
up a lot of different stories from people throughout the

(11:35):
last couple of years about the pair of normal, right,
and which I love because I can a lot of
times incorporate it into the show. And several times I've
had like parent normal type and experiences with folks in stores.
One was about this crucifix that magically appeared in my pocket,

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which I think I told you about some time ago.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Think I know that story w well.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Really briefly I've told a couple of times because it's
just when things happen to me. I'll tell them sometimes
at nauseum because I feel good about it and I
don't really mind really sharing it. But really quickly. I
was talking to this this woman. She was like eight
or nine feet away from me, far away, but there

(12:22):
was something angelic about her. I had a brand new
coat on, Brent and I and I don't care. I
don't wear a lot of jewelry, if any jewelry. In fact,
I owed a really cool piece of silver necklace, but
that's it. And I don't have any you know, I
believe in God. I'm Catholic in this, but I don't
have crucive fixes. I don't wear the big chain with

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the cross. I don't care anything, right, And I say
this talking to this woman. It was at a Kroger,
and she felt she could be an angel. She was old,
or much older than me. I'm but she's very nice.
And I had this brand new jacket on it. First

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time I wore it, you know, I didn't open any
of the pockets. Nothing. Well, I opened the pockets and
fell through it at the store and tried it out
of course, but other than that, and I put it away.
Finally I had an opportunity to wear it. It was
kind of a cool day and we're talking this woman.
There's something about her struck me, and you know, Brent right.

(13:28):
For whatever the reason, I go into my pocket and
this was I found this in my pocket. Oh needs
a little fruit. And now I gotta tell you now,
maybe I missed it. Maybe it was put in there,
Maybe it was in the jacket when I pulled a.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Shellow leg here again, Rob, but you said maybe you
missed it. I don't know when you'll back or not.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
My back, my back now, we'll just keep rolling at
my back now, yes you're back, now, okay, I'm sorry. So, so,
anyway saw it, you know, maybe it was in the
maybe it was in the jacket from maybe someone tried
it on the store and I missed it. I don't know.
But anyway, that's that's kind of just then I thought
that was so strange. So I saved it, Yeah, because

(14:13):
there's something in tricks it about it. Maybe I don't
know whatever the word is, but so I just kept
it and I have it.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well, that would be kind of almost like an a port. Right,
that's a paranormal term meaning items that appear without explanation.
And you're right, there could be a mundane explanation. But
if it is indeed, you know, supernatural in origin, it's
in a port and that's really cool.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I had.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
I had found an agates once that was literally sitting
on a chair that I just got out of, took
two steps away, turned around, and there's this sagt sitting
on there. In the brief story is my eldest son, Sheldon.
And I lived in my grandmother's basement. She had passed away,
and it was the basement was a single unit and

(14:59):
the upstairs was another unit. But I always wondered my
grandfather helped build this house. And I was always like,
I wonder if he's happy we're here. I wonder if
if he really is now. My grandfather was always famous.
He died before I was born, but he's always well
known to get up at like four or five am
and go out and walk on the beach and look
for ragates. That was his thing. So I got up

(15:19):
from the chair, went two steps over to the fridge,
grabs a beverage, turned around and down on the recliner,
sitting right there on the cushion was this beautiful agate
that I'd never seen before. And I know I didn't
have it. My son was there, but he was on
the other end of the couch, which was next to
the recliner. I'm like, Sheldon, did you do this? He
goes do what he looked over. He's like no, And

(15:43):
so I got this agony. I always assumed it was
my grandfather saying yeah, I'm happy you're here, you know,
like a gift. And so that became a treasure of mine,
you know, so.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Absolutely a treasure, and that's something you always remember, you know,
and thank you, just thank you, mister Castro. Five New
br Pirates BMR Pirates or thank yous has always rained.
Mister Castro rains gifts and memberships like nobody's business. He's

(16:17):
also been a member of this for eleven months. I
can't believe I've been doing memberships for eleven months already,
and he's one of the originals.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh that's wonderful.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah yeah, And I'm trying to okay, I'll be here,
we go. I'm just trying to okay, why is it?
I can't well, I guess it'll be up there for
a Brent, I can't seem to pull it all down.
But anyways, yeah, I just you know, don't want to
keep it up for all show. It's had a problem.

(16:48):
I don't know what it is. Maybe the computer lagged
on me. I still do it good. Okay. So anyway,
so and I bring this up, and I've had other
things happen to me, and here's just storied. I still
want to share because I shared this late night Saturday,
was when I was closing out the show. And again

(17:08):
it's another one of those situations. And I don't shop
at Walmart too often, but I had to go there
for whatever it was. I don't know what it was.
Oh now I remember because it's part of the story
my mom I happened to be out about. My mom
called me on the phone and said she needed some cereal.

(17:31):
She told me the name of the cereal, and of
course me, I wasn't really listening, and I pulled into
the Walmart and I forgot the name of the cereal.
Oh yeah, And I'm in the cereal aisle at the Walmart,
and I'm kind of before I'm calling my mom back.
I'm just trying to, you know, look at the brands

(17:53):
and maybe it would, you know, click. So I'm up
and down this aisle. So this woman comes up stands
besides me a little bit, and she strikes up a
conversation with me. Again, like I described earlier people do
this with me. Pretty attractive woman. I'm like, oh, hey,
how you doing. We're getting to this conversation now, I

(18:16):
totally forget about what I'm even looking for. And Brent,
you know what she says to me? She asks, She goes,
I don't know, but I got to ask you. Do
you dabble in the paranormal at all?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Really?

Speaker 1 (18:31):
I'm like, I look at her. I go, well, in fact,
I do. And then I want to tell her I
have a podcast this, that and the other and talk about,
you know, all sorts of weird things. And she goes,
she's had paranormal experiences all her life. So she started
telling me a couple of quick little stories. And then

(18:53):
I had said, you know what, this is fascinating. And
I already told her about the podcast or the YouTube show.
Would you like to come on as a guest? So
she agrees, she's beyond in Junior July. Okay, okay, So
I got that taken care of, and we're so got
legs bike. You said she's gonna be on in June
or July, So you got that, and so you hear

(19:17):
you can hear you right now?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Okay, So Junior July. Thank you for that. Thank you
for telling me that I can't see nothing here on
the screen, so she'll be on the show. So then
she turned starts walking away, and then you know, Bratt,
which what really was the coolest thing about this entire experience.

(19:40):
She turned around and said to me, she goes, Oh,
you're looking for shredded wheat. It's about five feet down.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
And that's the name of the cereal my mom was
looking for. I was looking for. How do you explain
that one? Is that like a psychic ability this woman had?
Because I tell you what, I didn't mention she knew
I was in a cereal aisle, right, yeah, and I
didn't tell I forgot what I was looking for. I

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just stopped and start talking to this personal Then right
before she says that, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
WHOA, sounds like she's got some some abilities there, because
she started out with, Hey, are you involved in the paranormal?
So she was reading you already, brother, You're like a book,
I guess.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
So it's kind of cool and kind of unnerving a
little bit. Yeah, just someone I kind of read my
mind and I wasn't even thinking of it. Hell, I
was gonna call my mind. I asked what she wanted
after the conversation with his lady.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Right, yeah, so what did you say when she said
this what you're looking for?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I looked, I said, well, thank you, and and I
was kind of dumbfounded. I didn't I didn't stop to
say how did you know? Right, she was kind of
busy taking you know, going about her business. Right, so
I kind of got the cereal and you know, Peton
went home.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
So that was like, whoa, yeah, that's pretty that's pretty
intense that she cold readial like that. But yeah, yeah,
that's that's amazing. I've always I'm really fascinated by that
those people that that can do that. And I don't
think there's you know, some people like to use the
term gifts, and I don't like the term gift because
it seems like this exclusive club and I think it's

(21:33):
something we all have within it. But for some reason,
some people are just tuned in and they're just they
just got it on, whereas the rest of us would
have to devote ourselves to, you know, developing it.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
So it's all people suggest that to me, and I
don't like having people suggest that about me. I just
that's just not where I go, but I will know this.
We all have intuitive abilities, as you said, but I
think mine enhanced. You've heard the stories about the kids, Jimmy,
I'm not getting into all that again. Yeah, and a
lot of other things. When I own my business. Oh yeah,

(22:09):
helf a person was going to work out without looking
at their resume. Right, it's just said, I got that feeling,
and we all have the feeling when somebody's looking at
us in a store or in a line. I think
we all have that, sure, but someone once told me though,
that we all have that ability. Yeah, just tapping into it,
open that third eye, as they say.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I think it's an old survival mechanism from when we were,
you know, working our way out of caves and somewhere
between caves and cities. We ended up well. I mean,
our ancestors were on the food jam, you know, so
you had to have that developed, that ability to know
when something seeing even when you don't see it. So

(22:50):
I think it's it's one of those psychic gifts that
everybody has, and everybody's experienced that. Like God, I felt
like somebody's looking at me, and I look over and
sure enough, somebody's just staring at me. Well, maybe it's
part of part of our the reason that we survived
or climb up the food chain.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh, for sure. You know the instinct, your first instinct.
Ninety they say ninety percent of the time, your first
instinct is the best instinct.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah. Absolutely. I'm also a big believer in that that
you gotta trust her gut.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, because I will tell you there's more times than
often when I went against what my instincts told me,
I was wrong, when I went against logic.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's I can I can vouch for
that as well. Like I've I've not listened to my
intuition many times and ended up in situations that were painful, uncomfortable,
sometimes horrible, sometimes just inconvenient. But it's like, yeah, I
really do try to pay attention to my gut feelings

(23:57):
and to follow them.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, I rely on it. I mean I use it
in business, I've used it in general life. And and yeah,
it's like I don't. I do not go against it anymore.
I just you know, I've got I got this email,
Brent from this guy a while ago. And uh, because

(24:25):
I always advertised I'll tell stories. You know, a lot
of the a lot of the stories in my books
I've gotten from people.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
You know that I was your legs biking again. Sorry,
I don't know where we get lost here, but.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
You got me now, yep, got you now at least
that it's just the only a couple of seconds then Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Well, yeah, I mean it's little spurts, so it's not
all I appreciate it. Yes, maybe you guys in the
chat let me know if it's am I just the
one receiving the legs bik or have you guys noticed
Rob freezing too? Because I just started wondering that, well,
like maybe something's going on on my end and we
don't know. Wouldn't that be something? If I'm stopping, you're.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Telling me that I'm all screwed up and it's the birthday, but.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
You know, just what's my birthday? I'm never wrong?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, Okay, Don Morris says what by? Derek Fry says
no or not? Derek?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Maybe I'm the only one seeing it, you know what,
Let me try reconnecting. Let me try reconnecting. I'm gonna drop.
I'll be right back. Okay, how hell did I do that?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Okay, so we're while we wait for Brent to reconnect. Yeah,
I don't know. I've had some issues in my uh
in my town where I live. You guys, a lot
of you guys have been following me. No, no, that
I lose power three or four times a year, and
tonight they're gonna combine within the next hour to redoce

(25:52):
something with my with my my power. So maybe it
was me, maybe it was Brent. I don't know. There's
Brent A Brant.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, I'm back now, we'll see how it goes.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
I'm sorry if I've been interrupting the show and it's
just been my problem.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
But no notices really everyone, No one seemed to have noticed.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
But anyway, everyone else's saying your stream is good, so
it's going to be well.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Brent, he just had something to redone with you on
your end, just not too long ago, if I remember right.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
And whole studio, in the whole studio. Yeah, but yeah,
we'll see. Sorry about that, guys. If I've been.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well, you were saying, yeah, so I got this email,
you know, and from this guy from this so I
was reading through this and I got to tell you,
this is something that's creepy. Scary and sad, all wrapped
into one. So I figured I would tell this and
maybe you and I can break it down a little

(26:49):
bit and give us opinion and thoughts on it. People
chat leave a question to comment if you want as well.
Guy goes down and tell me his name is Jeremy
and his brother's name is Ethan, and they had this
experience Brent back in like twenty twenty two, and they
went on and the emailer is Jeremy. Okay, so he

(27:13):
goes on here, Rob, you know, my dad was a
big paranormal enthusiast and he kind of raised me and
my brother Ethan on the paranormal all sorts of everything.
And I guess his dad maybe was an investigator I'm
gathering didn't get the full details right and always had

(27:34):
his kids looking into such things. In fact, he got
to the point where Ethan, the younger son, he got
certified as a demonologist, and yeah, it was really big
into the paranormal. Now is the brother Jeremy not as

(27:58):
much into the paranormal, but was a big cryptid enthusiast,
And in fact he got a degree in forestry and
works in a national park. So both these guys kind
of the same path but different. I can see a
nice blend there. And then, unfortunately for the brothers, their

(28:19):
dad he passed away at a very early age. I
think they went on to tell me that the sons
were in their early twenties. Dad was a huge role
model and shaping their their career and their path, and
they were devastating. And to compound things and make them

(28:39):
really going a dark area was their mother. A year
after the father passed, well, she committed suicide.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Oh god, wow.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
So the dad was natural causes. The mother was, of
course the other way. So these two young men in
her twenties were really you know, hey, let's face it.
I mean, I don't know what I would think that
happened to me.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Unfortunately, the one, Ethan, who was really the demonologist certified
all this, that and the other, he really he really
took a tough rent. In fact, unfortunately for him, he
twos to heavy drugs and alcohol abuse because of this.
And Jeremy, the older brother by a couple of years,

(29:37):
was always certainly trying to help his brother, you know,
and this, that and the other. So I guess this
went on for a period of maybe three or four years.
In a row. His brother was very bad with this.
Jerry Jeremy, the older brother, finally got him into a
rehab facility. Spent however long, but he was there. I

(30:02):
don't know how bad. I don't know how long that takes.
I don't know, but did some time there away, right,
and then when he came out. Uh, Ethan, he uh,
he stayed five years. He celebrated his fifth year being uh,
you know, drug free, and I think he was narcotics,

(30:24):
to be honest with him. So Jeremy says to his brother, Hey, man, congratulations,
I'm so proud of you. Jeremy was back working jell.
Jeremy was working in forestry. His brother Ethan back doing
whatever he was doing, but still was very But the
one thing about Ethan, he really got involved in the

(30:46):
parent normal. He got deeper into demonology in life after,
and he also got involved with Wiji boards. He got
involved with summoning or trying to conjure up spirits, trying
to get his mom and dad back. Talk to his
mom and dad. So Jeremy thought that was a little

(31:10):
bit of a concern. Yes, it's cool to be involved
in this, but not to the extent that his brother.
So he figured they'd have this five year anniversary celebrating
celebrating his sobriety, and so they packed up an RV.
They went to the Appalachian Mountains of Georgia appellation in Georgia, Okay,

(31:31):
to hang out and just be the two brothers together
and talk about mom and dad. But he also wanted
to also speak to his brother about, hey, you know,
getting a little too deep with this demonic things and
trying to bring back mom and dad, and he just
didn't think it was healthy. So the two brothers are

(31:53):
out there camping. Of course, again as I made mentioned,
they drove an RV, and the first two days, Jeremy
is telling me that the beautiful time with his brother,
his brothers, yeah, you know, kind of seeing his other
Jeremy's sy Ethan is kind of listening to Jeremy, Yeah,
kind of agree. But then he says, Rob, on that

(32:15):
third night, Ethan got a little strange, a little weird.
It was a nighttime, we had a little fire going.
Then his brother seemed different on this third day and
he pulls out, oh we do born. So Jeremy, who's

(32:35):
trying to get him out of this occult thing, is like,
what are you doing with this? I thought we were
making some progress. But please, he goes, yes, I get it.
Do it for me for the last time. Let's see
if we can get my mind dad. Jeremy reluctantly said, well,
if this is the last time, and you're you know,

(32:55):
not giving me a line of you know bs, let's
just do it and get it over. So they're around
the fire, got this board out, and he says, Robert
messing around with him maybe half hour, forty minutes. Nothing,
they got nothing, no movement on the plant chet, this

(33:18):
stat or the other. And so Ethan is kind of
a little perturb can't understand it. So he takes the
WISU board. Now, minds you. As I found out later
in the email, Brent, that they don't close it out.
They don't. They didn't, had no experience, but they didn't.

(33:38):
I guess you're supposed to close them out, if I
remember correctly. So the brother Ethan kind of got ticked
off and he throws the plant chet and the OISI
board into the fire. Okay, yikes, Okay. So they're sitting
around and he says, yeah, I'm done. Jeremy. Ethan says,
you know, his brother Jeremy. Twenty minutes later, they says,

(34:03):
as the embers of the fire are growing, damn. Now
this guy is telling me that what seemed to be
some sort of spirit seemed to materialize how the fire.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh no, okay, And it was this.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Kind of this apparition. And they're looking at this apparition
trying to figure out what it is. They're trying to
think maybe it's to smoke, you know, the embers as
the fires, you know, dimming, Maybe it's something else going on.
But it takes on this shape and then so he
says to me, and the female robbed in this shape

(34:37):
of this figure took more of a human form, and
it kind of looked like my mother bound in chains.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Oh god, wow, he says.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
His brother Ethan really loses it, right mom. He tries
to run towards this figure. This apparition distinct, it distinct,
It evaporates, distinguishes, it goes away and the brothers. Jeremy
grabs his brother's brother's crying rolling on the ground. What
have I done? I mean, I'm this dad and the

(35:11):
other and he tries to calm his brother down, and
again Jeremy is still trying to process what he did
see as well, right, and then his brother is kind
of going kind of hey wire, here, calms down his brother.
They put out the fire, They get in the RV,
so let's just take a nap, let's get the heck

(35:32):
out of here. Let's just go home. In fact, better yet,
Jeremy says, let me calm down. And we're leaving tonight.
So they're both in their captain seats. They're driving out,
and again, Jeremy's acting really odd or Ethan. Ethan's acting odd.
He was the one, the the guy that's recovering from

(35:55):
addiction who had the plan shed and had the Ouigi board,
and he's just acting very odd, very strange, and he's
crying and Jeremy's trying to calm him down. Is around
the road and they're still driving through the appellations, and
then his brother he goes, he excuse me a minut'im

(36:15):
I go to the bathroom. They you know, our V
had a nice RV. I imagine I had a bathroom
and everything on. It goes back to the bathroom. Here's
his brother Washington goes back in. So he's driving. Jeremy
said he felt it was odd because his brother was
gone for like seven or eight minutes. Then he's thinking, well,
I'm you know whatever. But now fifteen minutes goes by

(36:38):
and he else his brother, Jeremy, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Back?

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Do you fallow in the toilet? So he got this
odd feeling, so he pulls off on the side of
the road and parks the RV and he goes up
to the back to the bathroom where Jeremy was, opens
the bathroom doing his brother. Jeremy was sitting on the
commode with a syringe in his army. Odeed, oh no, wow,

(37:06):
Rob Man, I don't why I'm even telling you this story.
I know he follows the show, I guess, and he
just and my emails out there and he goes, first
of all, do you think that that spirit god? The
guy needs answers. I'm not an expert. No one's an expert.
So I'm trying to email this guy. I don't know

(37:27):
what happened there. I can't. I said, you saw something,
and I can't. I can't. And I just know what
to tell this guy because of the fact of what
happened to his brother, and what do you I mean,
did they see a demon and that demon take over
this guy's mind. Do you think this young Ethan, knowing
that he was weak at one point in his life

(37:48):
and vulnerable, do you think they really conjured.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Up something well, you know, I mean, if he had,
he obviously was supposed to be in recovery, but obviously
still had the stuff with him. So I don't think
he ever actually recovered. But it sounds like he might
have just been still wrestling very aggressively with that addiction,
which is so sad and tragic, but yeah, it's possible.
I mean, I think, I think these dark things are

(38:13):
incredibly opportunistic, and they look for that kind of weakness
because when when you the idea, at least spiritual in
a lot of spiritual circles is that there these substances
creates holes in your aura, They weaken you, they you know,
and so it makes for a much easier target for

(38:33):
any kind of spiritual entity that might be preying on
that person. And it sounds, I mean, it sounds like
he might have been being dealing with possibly some oppression,
which is you know, of course double tough, because the
guy was already suffering enough. But then if you have
a dark you know, demonic oppression kind of thing you're

(38:55):
it's basically like standing in a cloud and you can't
feel the sun. Know, no matter what you do, you
just can't grab onto the joy and the good things
because that thing is just just peppering you with with
all those negative vibes. And so unfortunately he was it
sounds like it, and it's tough to say because you

(39:15):
don't know. I mean, obviously he would love his brother,
and it was a devastating blow to him and what
an you know, unfortunate and horrible event because they'd already
lost their parents and then he lost the one piece
of his family that was left and and now what
you know, now he's alone. You know, it's it's so tragic,

(39:36):
and I would just say, if you have a faith,
pray for him, because there's nothing you know. I mean,
obviously we have this idea. I think a lot of
us do that. Well, once the gate closes and you
know you're dealing with a dark entity, then they somehow
own you. But I think everything can be redeemed with

(39:58):
prayer and with faith, including those that we love that
have gone before. And you know, I certainly hope that
he can come to terms that there has come to
terms with it because you can't. You can't love someone
enough to battle their demons for them. And I mean
figuratively and literally, I mean so, I mean the guy

(40:21):
was already dealing with a lot of issues, plus the substances,
plus dabbling with dark and dangerous things. So I mean
it was really like carrying a stick of dynamite with
a fuse lit, you know, And it's certainly unfortunate. But
all you can do is just, I don't know, send them,
send them all the love and prayers you can, and

(40:42):
I'll certainly send mine.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, you know, I told this guy. So this is
some time ago. I told this story a long time ago,
but I thought it was, you know, something to reflect
background because when we talk about these and I think
you're hinting to this. Yes, I said basically the same thing. Listen,
I have no real advice prayers and healing. And it
was suggests to me that folks that I don't like

(41:08):
to say this, I really don't, but there's part of
this story. But people with a weaker mind maybe or
they're not mentally stable, do you think this, and you're
dealing with the the occult or these boards wiju boards,
I think that a furious has overtake you more than

(41:29):
a person that's stronger, right, They take over the weak
mentally stable people at.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Me sure, and maybe maybe weak mentally isn't the right
way to say. It's probably I'm not trying to criticize you,
but I mean, it's just depending on how big a blow.
It sounds like this blow of losing the parents, one
by you know, natural causes, the other one by self
inflicted harm. There's obviously there's obviously some maybe some inherited

(41:57):
issues of depression and stuff you know that unfortunately tends
to follow bloodlines a lot, like you know, those that
suffer from depression can you know, be dealing with that,
and and your kids may end up suffering from it,
whether it's atmospheric or genetic or whatever. But you know,
I mean that this person was obviously just so embattled

(42:17):
and unable to reconcile it, and and I think it's
the perfect storm for anything dark that might be lurk,
and it's like, oh, there we go, you know, because
there's just they're already consumed by grief and pain and
unable to move beyond it, and so that I think
it probably makes for easier pickings for these dark, horrible things.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
And to be honest, it sounds like this guy brought
some of this darkness on himself.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, looking for looking to make contact, that kind of thing.
I you know, I've I've shared. I think it was
on your show that in one of the appearances that
you know I've I've had meetings with loved ones that
have passed, but it never came because I was actively searching.
It's like they were able to connect with me, and

(43:08):
like I never actively looked for it. And I think
that you always roll in the dice whenever you go, well,
let's get to wigibor out and call grandpa. You know,
it's not a telephone, and you don't know what you're
talking to, who you're talking to, and they might say
their grandpa, but they probably aren't. I think that, you know,
whatever whatever beings come through on wija boards generally are are,

(43:33):
they seem to be more lower vibrational entities, not not
the transcended you know, spirits of of of good. They
just seem to be these lower vibrational things. And I
understand the fascination of it. But the thing about the
wigiboard that I think really is makes it much more risky,
is you know, with if a lot of people say, well,

(43:54):
anytime you're trying to contact spirits, you know there's a risk,
and I would agree. I think that you always are
encumbering some kind of risk whenever you're reaching out to
touch this other world. But the thing that to me
makes the weedia board so much more inherently dangerous is
that you're not just putting out a recorder and saying, well,
you talk into that or make the EMF meter go.

(44:17):
You're saying you're you're touching it. You're interacting very physically
with it, and you're saying, is anything there that wants
to come through? So you're making yourself a blind channel,
so to speak. You're a blind channel. You don't know
what's connecting, but you're welcoming it through you to interact
with this with this board. And I think that that's
like the biggest risk is you're already letting something interact

(44:41):
with your energy and welcoming it. And that's where to me,
it becomes dangerous.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
There's some pretty good points. I ever really thought about
that because I thought that, Okay, a million people in
America have seen Ouiji bores in their local store. Right.
People buy them for thrills, I guess, and probably half
of these people haven't experienced anything. But you mentioned the fact.

(45:10):
I was going to say that you don't really need
to weiji board to kinjure up anything negative. But I
like your point though I never thought about you're actually
physically touching it, and you've got that planned chat in
your movie, and you've got in your hands, so you're
making a physical connection, right.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, and you're already using your energy, You're using that circuit,
you know.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
So that makes it doubly probably even more than or
just like a person that goes and sits I hit.
I heard a story of this guy that drew a
pentagram in his basement and sat in the middle of
his pentagram lit with a bunch of candles, trying to
summon these things, you know. Story I talked to some
person about a while, a long time ago, even I

(45:55):
wasn't even doing this, and I just thought that the
guy was kind of odd and peculiar. Again, the people
that I talked through throughout my life, right, and I
immediately thought this guy was like a Satan worship or whatever. Sure,
and it's like, so when you physically are doing something
and manifest things a lot more readily, and it's more
of your intentions, right, you're putting fourth into something like

(46:18):
if your attention. If I were to go right now
by ouiji boor and just screw out no intentions, probably
nothing will happen. I think I'm not going to have
taken a chance personally.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Right, I think ninety percent of the time most people
don't have ninety plus percent they don't have any kind
of real interaction. But sometimes people will say, well, we
didn't have one, so we just made one and and
this is what happened. Well, in a cult, esoteric tradition's
magical practices, witchcraft, wick, Rosicrucians, whatever, they will make their

(46:54):
own magical implements, implements. If you acquire it, then there's
another practice. But the things that you have to do
is you have to attune it. There's a there's a
practice of attuning the item to you, and that will
make it much more potent. When you're making a weeda board,
you are instantly attuning it to you. I mean, so

(47:17):
it's actually it's much probably less dangerous to go get
the Parker Brothers version or whoever, than it is for
you to take a pizza box and draw on alphabet
and numbers on there and and start using it because
you've you've created it, you've already attuned it for you,
and that makes it even more, even more potent in
my opinion.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
No, I think it's a great opinion, because yeah, you're
you're physically enabling everything. You're you're touching it, feeling it,
you're breathing, You're breathing life into it, essentially, is what
you're saying, Barrent, Right.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yes, you're creating it, and so it's automatically your intention,
your your energy is bound into it. It's already yours.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
You don't have to and it kind of just like
you know, you hear the old stories about witches and
people that practice the dark magic. You know, give us
us a lack of hair, you know, get an article
of clothing and get something from that person. I mean,
we all hear the stories and maybe brush them off,

(48:19):
but that's really the part of the creation. You know,
hear about the the voodoo dolls, right, you know that
they're made all the time, they practice that. I don't
know if they still do. They probably all over the
world they do. I remember Haiti right, was big into that. Ye,
and literally I don't know how true it is, but

(48:41):
you know, we've seen the movies. They take that pin
and stick it in that voodoo doll that they made
of some of your personal effects and affected certain people.
And I got to believe a lot of those stories
are actually are true. Some certainly are made up, perhaps
or maybe more contribe than others. But yeah, I think

(49:02):
that probably goes on today. Do you have any ability
to that? Oh?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Sure, I mean all of those old, old practices are
still in wide use around the world. But you know
the thing with dolls is that they are they are
made both as methods of causing harm or good to
a person, or they are made for protection. There's another
kind of doll practice in magical practices that is called

(49:31):
a poppet, And a poppet is something that's a practitioner,
an adept or whatever will make and it's a it's
a it's a facimile of themselves. And so they create
these poppet dolls and then they'll hide them away. And
the idea behind this, behind a poppet, is that it
is a protection mechanism, meaning that if any dark energy

(49:53):
curses other magical spells are cast towards you, it will
instead be given to this pomp at, this facimile of you,
and thereby protecting you because you've removed yourself by one
step from it. So if there is an evil practitioner
trying to cause you harm, it'll affect a doll and
it won't affect you directly. So the doll thing is

(50:16):
is pretty fascinating and a lot of a lot of respects.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
And you know how I am with dolls. You got it,
you know I saw that post. I'm like, oh, my lord,
Brent Thomas. Everybody that knows me knows there's two things
I can't. I'm scared of our dolls and clowns. And
I seen your posts. Why don't you walk us through that? Wait?

(50:44):
What made you? What makes you? You know?

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Well?

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Why?

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Okay? So honestly, if you look behind me, I have
decorated this studio. I love it, well, thank you. But
most of the stuff that I've used is purposed halloween stuff.
And I always thought it'd be cool to maybe go
to thrift stores and buy old dolls and make them
look like you can look like glossy vampiresh looking things

(51:09):
and have one or two here and I've never done it,
but or just a creepy doll because just because the
idea is, you know, we talk about stuff like that
on the show though, the Haunted Dolls. The Haunted Dolls. Well,
I was sitting in the thrift store with Missus Bortle
and we were shopping in the menuon was there too,
and up on the wall on the other side, like

(51:30):
halfway through the store, it's like this warehouse kind of room.
But up on the wall, I saw this this little
doll and it was sitting up on a shelf kind
of almost out of reach, and there was a little
baby doll in its lap, and I was like, oh,
but the gaze of it was what caught me. It's like, God,
it'swhere that thing's looking. Yeah, yeah, okay, and it's wearing

(51:52):
this this old kind of tattered dress. I can grab
her if you want to want to see.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Her, Yeah, I grab her? Why not? I already seen
all right?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Just for you Rob.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Brett's Thomas. Go check out Brett the Paranormal Portal. Subscribe
if not already, Tex is not gonna be with me,
you guys for six weeks. He has a schedule changed,
so uh, brandaby City in once in a while as
my co host. So I appreciate that the birthday boy
and dare it is? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Here she is rob Yeah your dream girl.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yes, sure.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
So she was sitting on the wall and she's heavy.
I mean she's big and she's heavy. She's like the
size of it, like a one and a half year
old child or a one year old. But look at
those eyes. Are you serious? I mean there's a there's
an intensity to that gaze. Like I look at her
and I fully expect she's gonna blink anytime, Like she

(52:51):
just looks so lifelike to me. But he was sitting
on the wall there, and and I was shopping around.
I'm like, well, you know, that'd be kind of a
creepy looking, spooky doll, you know, fit the bill. And
I was like, I don't know if she's for sale though,
because she looked like decoration. She didn't look like, you know,
like something that was meant to be purchased. But I

(53:13):
went to the checkout with a few items we had,
and I asked the lady working there, and she's an
older lady, and it's a thrift store, it's a animal shelter,
thrift store where they use the proceeds to help pay
for animals and to take care for animals. So we
always love to support that shop. It's really wonderful. But
I was like, hey, are the dolls up on that
wall for sale? And she goes, yeah, I suppose so,

(53:35):
and I was like okay, and so I went over
there and reached it. I had to reach way up.
It was like almost out of my reach, but I
was able to grab onto her leg and kind of
ease her down and got her. And then I looked
on her leg and there was a price tag said
twenty seven bucks, and I was like, good god, you know,
I don't really.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Need to throw that much at you get an arbi
for twenty five.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
So sorry, I brought her down. But that was another sticker.
And at this thrift store, they use different colored stickers
and then every week they run a different special, like, oh,
green stickers are fifty percent off, which is this case?
So I looked below the twenty seven dollars there's a
ten dollars green sticker. Well that day it was fifty
percent off, so she was all of five bucks. I'm

(54:18):
like wow. And the lady that was checking me out
said that shouldn't have any stickers like that on it.
It should just be the twenty seven dollars. And I said,
well it's on there. You clearly saw I grabbed it.
I didn't throw a sticker on there. She goes, no,
I see it, And I'm not going to argue with you.
It's it's you can have it for that price. So
here she is. She is, well, a little punkin.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I got chills already. Yeah, I got chilled. I'm not
yeah bad, but I will tell you this. Dolls like that, no,
thank you, and and clownsown, but.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
You got us.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
I mean when you look at those eyes, yeah they
oh yeah, very durable.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
You want a little closer round?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah, oh now she's smiling at me.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, she's a dull. I mean, honestly, there isn't it.
There's an intensity to the gaze. And I don't pretend
to know. Look that's haunted. But it is kind of
weird how I grabbed my attention and then it ended
up being so cheap. I couldn't hardly say. No, she's old.
I don't know how old, but look at that dress.
It looks like a like a goat.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
It does look very uh, something that I definitely would
not purchase.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
I can hear it in your voice. But yeah, there's blanking.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Oh god, that's even worse.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I mean she's all porcelain, even the mid section. Yeah,
you know, it's not like a lot of them are
like pillows in the middle. And then they got this
hard lead.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Don Moore says he thought the eyes. Well, we're getting
some comments here, Don Moore, Scott says, no, no way
in hell, you know, I don't. I'm paraphrasing Scott. Oh yo,
here's Scott that that would not be in my house.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Well, she's been here only a couple of days now,
and here's the at all. Yeah, if it gets creepy,
she's going to the garage. But I'm gonna at least
then I can investigate her, like I can put the
cat balls on her and EMF detectors and the camera
to see if anything happens, you know, and just just
try it that way, so at the very least she'll

(56:26):
become an investigative tool that if it does seem like
she's got some got some issues cooking with her. But yeah,
that's the story of my doll. Yeah, that's so I'm
gonna put her back down because she is pretty happy.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Yeah, he put her Well, thanks to Brent for that one.
I I probably you know, I'm not getting into the
story about all the objects I collected throughout my life.
Right when I was married. I was big into that.

(57:01):
I still am. I don't buy the things anymore, sure,
but I got to ask you this when I had to.
You know, when I bought all these crazy things stored
away in the garage, brought in the house and we
set up the curio cabinet room and all that blah
blah blah that we had the dark shadow people, then
I saw him again in the garage when I removed them.
Looking back on what I did when I took the objects,

(57:26):
definitely haunted, probably not all of them, but I don't
know which ones they were right looking back though, what
I know today, Brent, I probably made a mistake of
taking that to that dump because I don't know where
any of that refuse goes right when you can take
them to a dumb So I'm just wondering if I

(57:46):
spread that phenomena of somebody else.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Well, the interesting thing about dolls, it goes, you know
I did at one time. I want to do a
show about haunted doll, and I was, and I did
a lot of research on it, and as far as
I can tell, there's a lot of possibility that dolls
were invented in the ancient world, not as children's play things,

(58:12):
but as vessels for spirits to inhabit, and so that
could be the case. Now, I know that the Amish
are adamant about no no faces on their dolls because
in their in their purview that if it has a face,
and the evil spirit will inhabit it. So I don't know.
I mean, I realized that in a sense, I'm kind

(58:34):
of rolling the dice. But I have done things. I
did cleanse it as soon as I got at home.
I you know, did some some practices to try to
release anything dark and make sure it wasn't in my home.
But it's been fine.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I mean, I'm sure you did. And I like to
over exaggerate a little bit, but no, I've had experiences
with things, that's the only reason. But I get but
even as a kid, you know, I don't like clown
sitting has no nothing to do with the paranormal. My dad,
I was can't' have been, I couldn't have been, No
more eight years old. He was a member of a

(59:10):
VFW hall, right, all his buddies would hang out, and
it was Christmas time and it was supposed to be
a Christmas party when you bring your kids to wives,
you know whatever, the family. And one of his buddies
was dressed up as a clown and he my dad
told the clown to run up to me and my brother. Yeah, okay,

(59:34):
Now when you're thinking clown though, you know, I'm thinking
like Bozo, to clown something somewhat happy looking. This was
like the ugliest holebuish looking clown with black teeth, and
he smiled his nasty smile scared the crab crap out

(59:54):
of me and my brother, and I was petrified and
I started crying. Right. So ever since that day, I've
hated clowns. And then when you look at even the
happy ones, no being happy to me that of course
the movie it came out right. Oh sure, I've tried
to read that book a thousand times and I've gotten,
you know, ten chapters into it. I can't even finish

(01:00:18):
it just because of that. So, yeah, clowns and dollars, No,
there's a no for me. I got you. Yeah, but
I don't mind that what you did. I'm you know
what me because I am very inquisitive. I still will
look and try to figure things out. Yeah, I just
won't have them in the house, right. Yeah, I'm not

(01:00:40):
going to start a collection. I kind of want to
start another collection of antiques though, because I do like that. Yeah,
I should probably get over that phobia that everything you
buy the thrift shop is possessed, because it's not. It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think everything is an
e fact. I think the odds of you actually bring
home something with an attachment really small, really, but it
just could happen. And my my best advice is, look
if you if you bring home anything like that and
you start noticing weird stuff in your house, systematically remove items,

(01:01:15):
put them in a garage or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
That's what I would have done the first time I
got rid of everything. And again, I was twenty six,
twenty seven years old and didn't dabble in any of this.
And I just, you know, and didn't even believe when
we because we had that woman come over and tell us, yes,
the sources from here somewhere. And you got to remember, Brent,
I had probably literally, Man, I had like a hundred collectibles.
Oh wow, I had like four nice sized curio cabinets

(01:01:42):
with a nice lightning. It was a beautiful room with
this stuff. Was cool. Yeah, I'm sure of the trinkets,
the antiques that I had, I'm sure of one hundred
of them or whatever it was. I'm sure. Maybe it
was only one or two that really had something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah, probably, but you know, you just is it is
it worth, you know, not being able to live in
your own own because of some drinkes?

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
No, no, that's yeah. That was not unlivable. And it
was like I couldn't sleep nights. Neither could the wife
when she started seeing them. It was just a terrible
experience really for a long time, and we had negative energy.
You know, she was doing bad at work and we
can't I was doing okay at work, but we had
a couple of people that we loved were like move
went away people. It was just the weirdest negative vibration.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah, right, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
And then as soon and listen, within a matter of
weeks after getting rid of the stuff, her job couldn't
have been any better, you know, and everything was great
and you felt life, you know, good so so there
was something negative about what we have for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's you know, I mean, it's just
stuff at the end of the day. If you're not
if you're not living, if you're not able to live
your life, it's not worth stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Yeah. Oh, here's that electric guy. I'll be right back
in a second, like I love in that box.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Yeah, no worries, go ahead. So yeah, that's the story
of how I got the doll And like I said,
you know, I'm being careful. I'm being cautious with it,
and I did planse it and when I first brought
it home just because of the intensity of the gaze
of like, oh that's kind of creepy, a little creepy.
So I you know, anything could still happen, It could

(01:03:27):
still become a problem, could still be an issue, but
for now it's it's okay. It's only been here, like
I said, a couple of days though, So and Eric,
I'm not one hundred and six yet. I am not
one hundred and six. If you subtract fifty you'd be right,
that's actually how old I am. But I do qualify

(01:03:49):
for fifty five and over discounts, which I am taking
advantage of as much as I can. Thanks. Thanks for
the nightmares. You're welcome, Josh. It's my pleasure to stick
around watch the portal. So you know what I would
like for my birthday though, if you guys want to
get me a birthday present, if you're not already subscribed

(01:04:09):
to my channel, I'd love for you to get subscribed
over on the Paranormal Portal YouTube page. That would be
a wonderful gift. And listen to the podcasts that are
out there. I'm gonna take this moment to do some
self promotion because because Rob didn't get me anything except
have me on a show, So I'm using the platform
for my own.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
My own promote away, I heard you kind of. I'm
always open to promotion. I promote people my friends and no, yeah,
and I know you know, and happy birthday once again.
And this guy, you know, like I was just talking earlier,
I told the god, I'm working. We'll make this quick,
you know, go back, run around side of the house here,

(01:04:50):
and how about the weather. I'm like, I just told
you I'm working. You know, it never fails man, you know,
but that wasn't too I don't think about a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
No, You're fine, and it gave me plenty of time
to promote my stuff, so I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
I'm a superable portal both on YouTube and of course
podcast form. Go check them out on all platforms across
well across all podcast platforms. Right, you're pretty much in
all the pop all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Yeah. Yeah, I've not heard of any that we're that
I'm not on now. But and just just for clarification,
and some people are surprised by this, Like they go
and come to the YouTube channel and watch the live
streams and think that that's that's the podcast. But my
podcast is completely different from my live shows. I do
interview based podcast episodes where I'm talking to experiencers, witnesses, authors, researchers,

(01:05:46):
celebrities in some cases. So yeah, it's just a whole
grab bag, but they're about, you know, forty five minutes
to an hour, so it's pretty digestible.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
Oh yeah, very easy, forty five minutes to an how
are you?

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
In fact, and some of your podcasts, as you mentioned,
you break down from some of your actual shows. Do
you or do you not do that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
Yeah? Yeah, Like when you were on my on my
YouTube stream, I took that and split it into two
podcast episodes. It's not that I don't. If I ever
do interviews on the live show, they'll automatically become podcast podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah. And when I interviewed Brandy and Christa and Paul
was on there, and then I made podcast episodes out
of all of you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
So yeah, those are pretty cool. I listened to all
of them and they're very good. It's it's different. It's
weird the podcast side versus the YouTube side, because this
show will become a podcast as well, but I do
I don't do it like you do. Mine is just
this but without the video.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Yeah, And I often wonder about that because I'll get
some comments who are you talking to? Like if I say, hi,
Isaac Ariola, freaky geek? Yeah, where's that coming from? On
the podcast? So I think it kind of hinders it
a little bit. But you know, yeah, time to do
all that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I mean, you know, I you know how, the only
thing you can do in those situations is try to
explain it for the audio listeners, Like for those of
you that are listening instead of watching, this is what's
going on. That's what I always try to do is
just throw it in there because, yeah, I just didn't
hail the fruit fly's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Dust from that doll. Man. It looks pretty clean, pretty clean.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
She's good, she's good, she's a clean little girl. I
didn't that sounded creepy as hell. Sorry, I don't know,
I was it even thinking that, Brent? Yeah, wrong fibers.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
By the way, if you had a leg since you rebooted.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
Just a couple of times. But it's been pretty good
now for a while, so I think I think it
might be on my end the legs bikes might be
time to restart my router.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Let me ask I never asked you this are you
your studio? Is that in home? Where do you go?
You have a location or in my home?

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
This isn't Yeah, this is where I live as well,
So it's just it's a studio now, but it's essentially
a bedroom. So and I've got a split in half.
I do my music stuff on the other side of
the room and the podcast on this and YouTube streams
on this side.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
So yeah, because the music you do a lot of
you've done I do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
I love doing music. I love writing music. And if
you listen to my shows, the music you hear on
the shows is everything that I've written and never been
a part of writing. So yeah, so it's all original,
and that wasn't I never did that to try to
flex and be like, oh, look at me, this is
what I could do too. It's because when I started
on YouTube, I started getting copyright smacks, and I was

(01:08:44):
like god, because I'd play some of my favorite songs
like it might be Pink Floyd or Journey or whatever
whatever happened to strike me that day. And then I
started getting spanked by YouTube. So I'm like, well, I
know I can use my music because I wrote it.
So that was what actually launched and launched me into
doing that. And it was a roll of the dice

(01:09:05):
because I'm like, what if people think this sucks? And
some people have some people let me know that they oh,
who the hell's singing that?

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, but do you ever have a band
growing up, but you have a band currently?

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
I don't currently. I just write solo now. But I
was in many bands, doing cover bands, playing popular music
and stuff in clubs. So I did that for a
number of years and I enjoyed it. It was it
was a lot lot a lot of work for very
very little return because when you're playing clubs. You might

(01:09:41):
get a hundred bucks in the night, but you've spent
you know, months and years working on what you're doing.
But it's the return is pretty bad. But I just
love playing, so I had a lot of fun doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
I am. I can relate a little bit because I
had the bar for thirteen years. There was a period
of maybe a couple of years where every other weekend
I would hire a band to come on in and play.
You know, it's kind of, you know, looking for different,
different marketing mix if you will, you know, the business

(01:10:12):
live music. People love their live music. And I got
to tell you, I've paid one hundred dollars to a band.
And I paid this one band very popular here in
the state of Michigan, and their fee was like five
hundred dollars and I was like, whoa, you know, and
it was like but then I looked at the drawing
that they got because they would play at festivals and things,

(01:10:35):
and so I paid them the fee. I said, okay, fine,
you know what, but I advertised it for like two
weeks and I must tell you, when they came in,
I could there was not a seat in the house
that was not filled. And outside and surrounding the barrier.
I had speakers outside we could hear the music outside,

(01:10:57):
which I got in trouble for. I didn't know I
had the license for that. Yeah, I did not know.
Like like one year I was blowing. One year for Halloween,
I blew up pumpkins in the field and broadcast broadcast
on Dave Scott's show, We're plowing up pumpkins down the

(01:11:17):
field at Jason to Rob's bar. Yeah. I did that
on his Space.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Radio show, Oh funny, that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Yeah, And the police showed up to that one. I
got a few citations through owning that place, but it
was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Well Worth It sounds like that. It's like you have
your own rock band, Rob, Yes, well, no.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
One thing I'm not going to do is stop my
own rock band. I used to play the clarinet, did
you Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Yeah, that's cool. I think music is awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
My dad had the dream I wanted to play guitar
or drums. My dad part of us. My nationality is
a Polish, German and Ukrainian for the most part the
most for the most part, and my day I got
this Polish music kick. Oh when we're younger, right, So

(01:12:14):
he signed me up for clarinet lessons, my brother for
accordion lessons, his best buddy trumpet, his best buddies kids,
drums and trumpet. His goal was to turn us into
a Polish band. Oh okay, yeah, you know we're not.
We're young kids, you know. I'm like, Dad, I want
to clarinet? What what is what? Dad? What is a clarinet?

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Chicks? Don't dig your clarinet, Dad.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Don't dig clarinet. Saxophone is cooler than clarinet at least,
and it's like, yeah, that didn't last. I did it
for about a year. I still remember my teacher's name,
Ray Desicco. He was cool because he taught me how
to play Stairway to Heaven on the was No, no,

(01:13:02):
that was cool. I did enjoy that. Yeah yeah and
uh but yeah, so uh, I said, Dad, we hate
to tell you. When we got a little bit older, Dad,
we're not doing the Polish thing. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Instead we're going poka.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Dad, you're not doing the Polka. We used to go
to this place called the Brentwood House due to Polka.
If they Polish, it's Polish bands. Oh god, awesome it
was fun though, good experience in life. You know, it's
nice cultural, it's culturally rewarding.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
I guess, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like those like
elementary schools everywhere made people get those stupid plastic recorders
and you know, blowing. Oh god, there were shrill pieces
of hell to the torment of every parent everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
Oh yeah, right about it. I just looking back at this. So,
but you play, what do you put? What instruments do
you play? You play guitar, drums, flute? I did the
flute there, I said, Clara and ed corn at saxophone.

(01:14:16):
I was looking for another, uh, another wind instan winded instrument.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
I play guitar, and I can play bass to a degree,
I play. I play guitar, but I can play with
the bass, and I can play with the keyboard. But
I wouldn't say I'm a keyboard a store bass player.
So and then I sing, of course, So.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Okay, I'm sad. I was just reading a couple of comments.
But yeah, I got you, and uh, but yeah, I
did like your music when I heard I remember way
back in the day when I first started watching the
Paranormal Portal, you did. Uh, I think you've changed it
up since then, the very big the tune where you
have like the bigfoot on and you had the creepy
paranormal thing going on the back ro. You know that

(01:15:01):
that that music maybe five years ago you had it
playing in the beginning. You've changed it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
The instrumental thing. Yeah, I thought that was that was
pretty That was one that I wrote. It's called Tribes. Yeah,
and I only wrote that song because I had this
vision of potentially doing a Bigfoot documentary just talking about
Bigfoot and going in the area and looking at sighting
areas or when things might have happened around here. But
it just got to be impossible to do. So I

(01:15:29):
was like, well, I got the song writt, so I'll
just use it on the shows. And that's what I did. So, yeah,
there's there's a song that used to start every show
called Feline, and that was one that it's more of
an upbeats kind of thing. But the song that starts
the show now I don't really have a working title
for the name, but it's almost like a doctor who

(01:15:51):
kind of thing, like you know, And I end the
shows with another song that doesn't have a working title
right now, but that's one that I co wrote. I
actually wrote the song and the melody and stuff. But
then it was produced by Jesse Wilkins in Massachusetts, who
is part of Hometown ghost Stories. A brilliant musician, he

(01:16:13):
really is, and he really knocked it out of the
park with his production and adding layers to it. It
just sounds amazing, you know now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
That we're talking about music. I know we go on
tangents on most of the shows, but music makes a
lot of movies blockbusters. I remember one of my favorite
movies is the movie Halloween. The original Carpenter John Carpenter,

(01:16:45):
very good director, does a lot of creepy stuff, and
Halloween was his first movie. And do you know, I
just fun fact when they made the movie Halloween and
they screened it, it did not have the music, the piano.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
It was just that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
And they had a screening of it the same movie
minus the music, and it just bombed. It was like
a major disaster. And he's like, and this guy was
his first movie. He put his heart and soul into
it and he was, you know, trying to what can
I do to make this better?

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
And of course he's a musician and he was back
to the piano and he just started messing around. He
came up with that very the very famous jingle, the
Halloween theme. So he's playing that he recorded, then he
dubbed it and certain spots in the movie right as well,
and then he rebroadcast it, put it back out. It

(01:17:48):
went from a disaster into one of the cult classics
that it is today just because of the music.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Yeah, music is powerful. I mean if you and it's
mostly oftentimes you don't even realize what the music is doing,
but it really does build suspense in it, in it
and also you know, it just punctuates things so well,
but it's almost it's almost subliminal, even though it's very
you know, if you heard just the music, it'd be like, oh,
that's good doing. But in concert with what you're seeing,

(01:18:15):
it just becomes powerful.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
It does. And even another quick tidbit, because one of
my favorite movies of all times is Jaws, oh right, right,
and you know the and you know they and the
reason that they didn't show the shark as much, which
turned out to be a genius move, was because the
shark it was just malfunction throughout the show. You know
that you see the shark. I think the movie runs

(01:18:41):
almost two hours in entirety. I think you see the
shark in the whole movie a total of eight minutes. Now,
it's not the original plan, but because the mechanical shark
would sink, it's just you know, it just wouldn't work, right, sure,
So they came up with the music don dump all right, Yeah,

(01:19:05):
and they would dub that into areas where the shark
was supposedly to be around. And then they had that
screen half ocean and feet dangling in the water with
that music where you're thinking of the shark's going to
come up and bite the legs off. At least that's
where I thought it was a kid. I thought it
was a little kid. And that music again for that
movie helped make that the blockbuster as well. Was just

(01:19:26):
throwing in the music. So music as used that is
extremely powerful. It is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Yeah, it's really a cool a cool medium to compliment
a lot of other mediums.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
You know. And since we're talking the music, what do
you think about this? I remember growing up as a kid. Oh,
you listened to that Ozzy Osbourn, that Black Sabbath, that's
all devil worshiping a cold Remember they used to talk
about you worshiping you know, huh you remember that?

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Sorry, I'm getting a leg, Spike bro Okay, where did
I leave off? So Ozzy Osbourne's all devil worship is where?

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Yeah, Black Sabbath, Yeah, all these songs. When we were cues,
they said that if you listen to that, you know,
they associated that with murder and mayhem, right, yeah, I
don't believe they were by that. Or you play led
Zeppelin backwards Satanic you remember all those as a kid
growing up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's just kind of ever since
the advent of rock and roll, the whole you know,
burning burning Elvis albums, burning Beatles albums by these very
religious groups and stuff because they felt it was gonna explore.
I don't know if it was a method of more
like controller, if they really thought that it was devil
music or whatever. But but yeah, I don't. I mean,

(01:20:45):
I don't think there's any basis for that obviously, because uh,
you know, most everybody that's alive today listened to some
form of maybe Metallica or or you know, any number
of different you know, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest and Iron,
Iron Maiden Kiss, you know, et cetera. And I guess
we turned out. Okay, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
I think I do think that's hogwash. And it comes
to the parent.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Romal absolutely, I mean, yeah, I'm sure it's It could
be argued with some music that it might promote violence
and such, and maybe there's merit to that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
But so does the video games of today. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
I was just going to talk about video games too.
You were on the same tangent because how many you know,
with with these first person shooters, Oh, you're just training
a whole new generation of murderers. And and yet you know,
I I played a bunch of them, and I didn't
end up killing anybody, and most of us didn't, you know.
And then somebody's going to do it. They're going to

(01:21:44):
do it anyway, whether or not the you know they
were releasing or video games.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
I think that a person is not influenced by the
video game. They're going to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
They're going to do it with right, Yeah, exactly. So
it's it's just these crutches people like to blame for
the problem, and maybe what they should focus on more
is being a good parents, being a good role model
for your kid, and you know, and and spending time
with them and maybe then they'll it doesn't matter what
they listen to or what that watch. Maybe just be

(01:22:13):
good parents and focus on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
That great point. I agree with you one hundred percent.
And going back to the music influences. My one of
my favorite bands when I grew up was led Zeppelin, right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
I never paid attention to the music. I just well
the lyrics. I just liked. I thought they're a good man.
I thought it was cool like the I liked the style,
and I get involved with this. And then I started
listening to a lot of led Zeppelin lyrics. And I
must tell you, if you sit and listen to the lyrics,

(01:22:49):
go or go pull up and read the lyrics. If
you go on the internet and pull up the lyrics,
just stare with heaven or whatever. Another one, Kashmir, I'm
reading the lyrics. And let me tell you, Brent, A
lot of what they sang about is a lot of
things we talk about today. Time travel talk a lot
about the paranormal. They talk about bigfoot, encryptids in a

(01:23:11):
strange way. If you piece it together, they did well
before us even was put out there right in the public.
But they did it via music. Now, some of it
is kind of as we all know about Jimmy Page.
You know, supposedly you know, what he did by Alisterair
Crawley's house, and supposedly he was involved in black or

(01:23:32):
dark magic. I don't know if he was, she was,
he was, But the band Is has a lot of
that influence in the music, right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
I think they have a lot of pagan influences in
their music, a lot of the pagan religions and observations,
you know. I mean the Immigrant song is you know,
basically about the vikings.

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Uh, and of course I think they drew a lot
on that. There's some reason they resonated pretty pretty hard
with you know, the Nordic pantheon. So yeah, I mean,
and that's fine. I don't know. But again, I think
if if you have a solid foundation, it doesn't matter
what you encounter, it's not going to perfect change you

(01:24:19):
or you know, alter you as a result of just
the medium. If you're if you're already a broken person,
you're going to be broken no matter what, and you're
going to cling onto something else that's really broken and
you know, self perpetuating. But if you're you know, if
you get a solid foundation, you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
No I'd be You're right and think that is really
the basis between behind all of this, if you're a
solid foundation brought up correctly or not. Maybe not even
that people have been brought up in the wrong fashion
and still are great people today. Sure, people have been
built brought up with a terrible pance or lifestyle growing up,
which are immaculate today. And on the flip side, some

(01:25:00):
kids have been brought up under the best of circumstances
and have become evil. Right, So it doesn't matter. It
de appends on you the person.

Speaker 2 (01:25:09):
Yep, absolutely, But I certainly I think the odds definitely
favor us, you know, solid upbringing to becoming a well
adjusted adult. I agree with you know, there are those
success stories, like you said, where people started out coming
from the train wrecks of families or the worst of
circumstances and still managed to rise above it all in
there and they're my heroes, you know. I think those

(01:25:31):
are amazing people. But yeah, I think the odds favor
the person who's brought up in the loving, responsible home
and taught values and a foundation.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
That's definitely the way to go, the preferred method, of course,
But this not to discriminate from anybody else. It was
less fortunate growing up. Right, This has been a pretty
great show that I want thanks for coming I really quickly.
Thanks to Denise your castro twice for your awesome contributions.
Today it's the show with the super chats in the

(01:26:06):
BMR pirates. Love you guys, Appreciate you guys. And what
do you have coming on on your show? I know
you're on YouTube today Thursday. What you got going on?
You're on Friday and Saturday.

Speaker 2 (01:26:19):
Yeah, Friday, Saturday, just normal shows talking about the ghosts, bigfoot,
cryptids and UFOs and all kinds of other strangeness. It's
always a hodgepodge like I don't have any guests shown up.
But on May tenth, Dave Scott's going to be making
an appearance on the Portal.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
So awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Yeah, I had a good time with him. I got
an invite from his booking guy to come on, and
I'd known of Dave for a long time and and
respected him. I thought he did a great job, but
I just had never met him. But Bob, we had
a great conversation and I had a lot of fun.
So looking forward to having him on the portal. And
reversing the roles.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
No, that that'd be great. Day's been on my show
about four times as a guest. I've been on his
show several times on Space Out Radio. Cool Guy. I
like the guy awesome show. And yeah, I'm looking forward
to meeting him one day. I keep missing his Vegas party.
Oh yeah, a quite often. What he's been doing now

(01:27:20):
for about three years Friday night Friday. I think I'll
do my Encounter show Friday. I got to see what
I got for that Saturday night with the girls, of course,
and that's what we got going on. So for everybody,
thanks for coming on and please subscribe. If new here,
hit that like button on your way out, everybody, and

(01:27:43):
thank you. Brent. I've got Varla Venture as a guest
joining me next Thursday on this show. This next Tuesday,
I've got the Miguel Ramirez from Stasquatch Theory joining Tuesday
night with me and Christa vol Thursday, and Brent, if
you're not doing nothing, you can come on. It's just
me if you want. If you want the day off,

(01:28:04):
dake the day off. I got Brent on and off
for the next six weeks, depending on his schedule because
texts Yes, Texas, uh as, he would say, what does
always text like? Texas out of pocket the next six weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:28:21):
He's a busy guy. But yeah, I'll come on a first,
I'll talk to you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Know we talked throughout the week anyway, So yeah, that'd
be great. Thanks everybody for coming on and appreciate y'all.
And until next time, Brent, I appreciate you, and of
course everybody wish Brent a very happy birthday. Thanks, You're welcome,
Thank you. This is the future evolution.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
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(01:29:28):
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