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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, hello everybody, and welcome to Brunch with Bigfoot Michigan
rob My Afternoon Show. I have a great show in
store for everybody today. As y'all know, I'm on four
days a week, Tuesday Nights with Christa beyind BMR nine
o'clock in the East, Thursday Afternoon right here with y'all

(00:23):
at one o'clock, Friday Night, Storytime with BMR Fridays, and
Saturday Night the Late Show with the Girls Christa, Brandy
and Monica. Today I have Brent Thomas sitting in with
me as my co host from the Piah Normal Portal.
It'll be a fantastic show. Thanks to everybody for coming
on in and right out of the gate. I gotta

(00:46):
thank my man Keith. Where's Keith Keith? Keith Keith. There
is great way to start the show. The super Chat's open.
Great way to help support what I do around here.
You can also become a BMR pirate Joined today, Hey maadies,
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(01:08):
subscribe to Brent Thomas Paranormal Portal, The Blinds and the
Booze Paranormal Podcast. Texas Front porch, the Misfit Toys. We're
all around, and we got that great event coming up.
And one of our speakers, of course, at that conference
in the seventeenth and nineteen has been mister Thomas, and
I'm gonna bring up Brent just to get him acclimated.

(01:31):
I think he's ready to roll. Hey, Brent, what's happening man?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm ready to roll, brother, and I'm doing good. Thanks
for letting me come back and hang out with you.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, no problem. And you know, Texas got that weird
work schedule usually sits in with me and sure things
of that nature. So I want to appreciate everybody that
comes in. And of course, Brent, you've got the Paranormal Portal,
and you also have a podcast that everybody can check out.
You're on all the much like myself. You're on all
the podcast platforms. Correct.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, both my shows live streams on the podcast are
the same title. They're two very different shows. But yeah,
you can find it.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Everywhere, find it everywhere. I'm just waiting on a guy
to come here and put up the rest of my fence.
We had a big sixty mile an hour straight online
wins that took out my fence. So there's twelve and
two man, and so everybody listening, I can finally get
excuse to get that put up. Hooray prayers all the

(02:30):
people though in the Midwest and down south Man for
all the tornadoes, you know, the blaze and boozer in Missouri.
You know, so crazy, crazy stuff going on. So, you know,
it's kind of interesting to start the show. I was
looking for a way to start today's show, and really
quickly I've got to scroll up here things. Okay, there's

(02:57):
I just got to find it because this is so interesting.
It's actually very cool, so bear with me. Okay. So
one of my favorite sports channels that I listened to
is ninety seven point one The Ticket. As you know, Brent,
I'm a big Detroit sports fan, and as I'm listening

(03:18):
to one of my favorite shows in the morning, carsh
and Anderson. They every once in a while they'll go
off topic a little bit for a few minutes and
talk about strange news items. They're talking about a bigfoot
encounter that took place here in Michigan and Monroe County.

(03:40):
And as soon as I heard that, of course, they're
making fun of it. You know, like everybody does regarding bigfoot,
and so I was in their YouTube chat and I says, hey,
bigfoot does exist. I saw one in twenty eighteen. In fact,
I have a YouTube channel, so I put that in
chat room. So here this guy, Robert Dan Duvin Hope.

(04:04):
I said, your name right, Robert at big Foot Misskrob.
I saw your comment on ninety seven point one FM
YouTube chat a little while ago. So now I'm here,
y're Robert. I guess hey, you know never hey, drop
your link right right, Brent.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
So what I did was I was very intrigued by this,
and so I went on the internet. You know, I said, Man,
I got to talk about this on the show to
get the show started. So thanks, Robert. I didn't expect that.
It makes me feel kindy good, you know, abstally picked
up on that, and they're coming on and hopefully you
like the show. I have four shows during the week, Robert,

(04:46):
So I do appreciate that, because yes, bigfoot does exist.
I think that you would agree, Brent, correct.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Absolutely, I would think so. I have no doubt that
it's out there, and the amount of surprising people like
even what the hell is her name? Jane Goodall has
been on record saying that she believes they're out there too.
She said that she might be. It might be a
romanticized idea on her part, but she does bring up

(05:13):
that is like the only continent without some form of
great ape, you know, so maybe these are it.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, and uh really briefly, Rags Rags, Rags, Rags super chat.
Thank you so much. Rags Rags has been following me,
I think since I first started. She follows myself in
Duke Sullivan world, very central, and I think a few others.
And thank you so much, Rags.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
That is she's heard about the portal.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Is that right? She's heard she should here. I I
talk about you all the time, the paranormal portal.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, that's really wonderful though, very nice of you.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Yeah, thank you, Rags. I appreciate that when I get
that as well as Keith. It doesn't matter your donations,
everybody not expected, but I do appreciate them, whether they're
five dollars or fifty dollars or whatever you can afford.
It basically just helps me keep up the Internet, the
stream yard and all this stuff we got paid for, right,

(06:14):
so that's typically what I do with it. Thank you
so much. Rags. I appreciate you as always, thanks for
being an awesome supported show. So yeah, like so absolutely, Brent,
they do exist. I seen one you've you know, with
Duke Sullivan. I just mentioned you had some weird experiences
in Montana.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I might have caught one on camera and was
There's a clip of it somewhere in my archives of
when I was up there in Coloma in a ghost
town doing an investigation, and I was doing a kind
of a panning shot of the area and there was
a basically it was an old mining camp and the
way it went was there was there's reports of big

(06:56):
foot sightings up there. Duke has talked about it at length,
I'm sure, but there's also haunted so it's like this
double way amy and maybe there's more things going on.
I've heard it's kind of a hotspot of sorts. But
I was doing this panting shot in broad daylight, and
I was standing near a tailings pile which is all

(07:16):
overgrown now with trees and stuff, because this tailings pile
was made in the early nineteen hundred, so I mean
everything's plants are growing on it and such. But I'm
doing a panting shot and didn't notice anything, and then
got back and was sitting here in my home studio
and I'm editing it and up on the tailings pile

(07:38):
and I only caught it because I had to keep
going over this one clip and I was like, wait,
what's that? Something's moving? And what it was. There was
a v of trees up there on the top of
the tailings pile and there's a big dark shadow there
and as I'm doing the panting shot, it ducks down
and I'm like, well, hell, because it was only myself

(08:00):
and a co investigator up there on that whole mountain
at that time. His name is Dan Dan Pruett, and
he was Jesse. He and I and Duke and his
team had moved over to a different location that day.
But yeah, I mean, and I sent it to Duke
and he's like, yeah, it looks like you caught something
great eye, you know. And we measured it a year later,
and it must have been at least eight or nine

(08:23):
feet tall to us been standing where it was and
me catching that on film, So that puts it out
of people range, for sure.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
It does put people range out of excuse me, for sure.
I was just reading some things and yeah, it does.
But and like even Rag said, I put up a theme.
Rag says that that Columbus haunted as hell because I
think you came, you found you found it to be
very haunting yourself, didn't you.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah. We got a lot of really cool activity that day.
And it was actually my very first official investigation. I've
lived in haunted houses and stuff, had plenty of ghostly
experiences of my own, but this is the first time
I actually went to a location and Dan brought all
this amazing gear and we did some really cool investigating
and we got some incredible things coming through as far

(09:12):
as you know, voices and EVPs and energy spikes, including
gamma bursts which could be indicative of portal opening. Yeah,
we got some cool gamma bursts that measured there that
didn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
So really, so you picked up a gamma burst on
your equipment? Is that correct? So what type of a question?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
It was a radiation detector, and Dan brought it up
there because he's used it on this investigations and and he's,
you know, he's done. And he's really a sciencey guy.
He's a he's a technical person, and he's like, you know,
I bring this with because if there are portals opening
and closing theoretically to another another version of space, there
should be gamma bursts that appear at the same time

(10:00):
that are anomalous and don't fall into the natural range.
And sure enough, on Coloma we got a few of those,
one of which happened up at this it's almost like
a stone hinge kind of rock formation that a lot
of people believe is ancient. And we did get some
gamma bursts up there and also down in the town proper,

(10:20):
so it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Really quickly, Rags also asked, did you check out the
monoliths in Coloma.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah, that's where I'm That's where I'm talking about where
we did measure gamma births, these monolithic dolmens, and there
there's almost like this altar in the middle of it.
There's like these standing tall stones kind of around you
in a in a circle on top of this rise,
and then in the middle of it there's like this altarstone.
So God only knows what happened there at some point,

(10:50):
but they may have very well opened up some kind
of spiritual portal or that's a very energetic place where
natural portals occur and that's why they built it there.
It's hard to say.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
You know, it's very interesting to even bring that up
because Danny Stateton' is also in the chat room and
he sent me a video that and I don't know
if this was a cloaking bigfoot or if it appeared
from a portal. And I looked at it, and you know,
when I look at video and pictures, much like all
of us, we really have to scrutinize it because you know,

(11:22):
you know how it rolls. He puts something out there
on social media, you know, you know what happens. And
it kind of appeared in this video that Danny sent me.
He's in South Carolina, and it appeared that a bigfoot
kind of cloth. It kind of came out of nowhere
and it appeared in the background. There's like a flash,

(11:42):
and then all of a sudden there was an image
of a humanoid up in the tree and you could
see an outline of it. And it was a pretty
cool video. I'm not going to show it. It's on
his YouTube, so I don't want to get strict stricken
with a copywriter. Right about Danny State and he's got
that over and I tell you what, you mentioned portals, Brent.

(12:05):
Do you think that somebody's crypt is, whether it's Bigfoot,
dog Man or what have you. You think they First
of all, I believe that they're both supernatural and physical.
We've talked about this a lot between between ourselves. I
think they come through a portal, don't you some of them,
some of these entities.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's possible. I mean, certainly, the whole idea of it
is pretty incredible, and there's there's plenty of people that's
claimed they've been through portals, Like they'll be walking in
in forest on a path that's well known to them
and suddenly everything changes, like it can go from day
to night suddenly, or from forest to tropical and it's
like they're having these weird experiences where they're suddenly in

(12:48):
a different place. And most commonly what's reported is that
people stop and they take some steps back, and suddenly
they're nutfamiliar surroundings. So I think that portals are very
naturally occurring phenomena that somehow happen in the multiverse of things.
And I don't necessarily mean it's dimensional, because I think
oftentimes the word dimensional gets confused with multi the multiverse. Yeah,

(13:14):
I think that most commonly, these are multiversal instances that
are very close to our own and perhaps overlap, and
that's where we get these portals. But yeah, I think
I think it's very possible. I don't know, you know,
I mean the WU stuff is, I'll be honest, it's
don't I don't believe that it's not possible. I just
don't know what to do with it, Like what does

(13:34):
that mean? How does that work? So I always go
to this logical conceptualization and I'm like drawing blanks. So
it's a hard one for me. But I don't I
don't pretend that I'm the arbitrary of truth in what
I say is the valid description of everything. I think
anything is possible. I think that's the thing I've learned
the most doing this stuff is that man, just as

(13:56):
soon as you think you know something, you're going to
find out five things didn't and you're gonna have one
hundred more questions.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
And then when you think you know something, it's like, well,
maybe what I think I know isn't exactly valid because
something else comes up.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yes, exactly, you did mention.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Though, if you want to clear up some of the
people and maybe even me for that matter. When you
talk to multiverse versus versus multi or dimensional, what's the difference,
because I always thought it was kind of the same,
but it's I guess it's not.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Dimensions have to do with like one dimension is only
length and you know with or whatever, it's infinite as small.
Two dimensions is width and height, and three is depth,
and then four is you know, a lot of people
say it's time, but I don't think that's that's accurate
at all. I think it's another dimension that goes beyond it,
like and and so on and so forth. So dimensions

(14:51):
seem to deal with complexity or depth of the experience.
But a multiverse idea is the fact that there are
infinite versions of all of us experiencing an infinite possible
chain of events throughout their course of their lives, of
our lives. You know. The multiverse is the theory that

(15:12):
there are duplicates and replications of this experience we're having,
but to add infinity, so there's possibly multiverse experiences. We're
all lizard people instead of you know, Homo sapien, and
there's you know what I mean. So it's every eventuality
or possibility, and maybe they're just like a hair apart,

(15:33):
you know, and it seems like, you know, we don't
perceive it. But that doesn't mean it's not still sharing
the same space as us, but possibly on a different
vibrational reality of us. And maybe that's some of what
we're seeing as an overlap.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Wow, today's show, this all kind of fits in together. No,
I mean, it's just so much. No, I mean that
like wow. I mean it's just I just never knew
the difference I thought to mention in the realm and
different planes was the same thing. So this is kind

(16:08):
of new to me. I may only been doing this
since twenty eighteen. I mean, I've learned something new every day, right.
But also though a couple of the things I'm gonna
share today has a lot to do with perhaps maybe
the WU side of it or anything else. But what
I wanted to share though, since the guy from ninety
seven to one the Ticket came on in and I

(16:29):
looked up this encounter that the guys did on the show,
I found it and I copied it, so I didn't
memorize it. I'm just going to read this report from
the BFRO. And of course the guys on the radio
station were making fun of it. But I got to
tell you, since we are I'm in nowhere as I've
seen one, and I think you're pretty much in that
same boat, Brant. A lot of people in chat room

(16:51):
are I'm going to go ahead and share this what
I just heard. This happened on Sunday, and so what
I like about this too is here in the state
of Michigan, in Monroe, Michigan. And it goes on to
say that a Michigan father and twelve year old son
were both fishing in a marsh when they say they

(17:14):
had a frightening run in with Bigfoot. The terrifying encounter
reportedly occurred this past Sunday. So just this weekend, this
Sunday morning, near the town of Monroe, north of Plump Creek. Quote,
I was both fishing today with my son. Around eleven
thirty am. We walked down the creek Plump Creek, pasted

(17:36):
four bridges there were railroad bridges, and headed into the marsh.
The father, Edward wrote in his report to the Bigfoot
Field Research Organization, And of course really quickly, you know
that's Moneymaker. So the guys were doing a little bit
because Matt Moneymaker is the one that posted this and

(17:57):
put his name to it, and of course the guys
on the radio show, the sports radio show, Oh Matt Moneymaker. Yeah,
uh huh, what a name, you know, just they put
that try to make a fast dollar type thing. I could. Yeah,
we all read into that. He says. It was one
hundred yards into the marsh. The dog scared of something

(18:19):
that was embedded there. Trees were shaking. We thought it
was a group of deer. We continued on two hundred
more yards to the marsh creek basin in the marsh,
he says, as they pat as they paused on their
track back through cattails, when all of a sudden, he says,
you heard rustling in a tree to the left, and
a huge thud hitting the ground from the tree. A

(18:42):
big yeah, A big, heavy animal hit the ground and
crouched and started to move towards me through the brush.
As he recalls, my dog fired off from the right
of fired off from the right of me toward the creature.
The dog almost got to it, but the creature shot

(19:02):
off extremely fast through trees and brush. Again, I'm just
reading this if it sounds kind of weird. The dog
chased the creature up the slope and over the train tracks.
I then called for my dog to come back. My
son said, holy shit, what was that. It was as
big as a bear, but it looked like a gorilla.

(19:24):
We walked back, but we heard something crunching on the
ground behind us and we left. So the follow up
here this was sentenced to the BFRORO Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization.
Investigator met Moneymaker followed up with Edward and his son
in two separate phone calls. Moneymaker goes on to say,

(19:46):
I asked enough to discern that it was not a bear.
He reported, it was a large, dark furred primate that
ran up a slope on two legs, looking like a
gorilla from behind. Yes, that would be a bigfoot. This
area around the marsh for Tamarack Creek is full of deer.
No hunting is allowed there, only fishing is allowed there. Consequently,

(20:10):
there are herds of deer in the marsh and woods
year round. There are lots of cat tails around this
marsh as well. Therefore, two things bigfoot consumes, especially in
the winter, cattails and deer. There are likely other food
sources around this marsh as well. Moneymaker also pointed out

(20:31):
that there are railroad tracks that run from Tamarack Creek
to a large farm field that are open and dark
at night. Bigfoot will walk along railroad beds for long distances,
he explained. The railroad beds will sometimes bring them into
pockets of woods very close to towns, as in this case.
The closer a nature pocket is to a town, the

(20:54):
greater likely that hunting is forbidden, so the bullets don't
travel into the neighborhoods. The area becomes the de facto
safe haven for deer herds. Bigfoot look for deer, so
they will sometimes end up in pockets of woods near
towns like Monroe, where there's enough plants and animals to

(21:14):
sustain them. This is far from the first credible credible
bigfoot sighting in the state of Michigan. The b frro
as two and twenty six such a count encounters recorded
in its database. Last year, another Michigan man claimed he
was attacked by a bigfoot. That he was knocked out

(21:35):
cold by the creach. Oh wow, yeah, I mean, okay,
that perhaps, but you know what moneymakers some ice is
there is. He's pretty accurate with that area because I've
been through Monroe County in fact, so many waterways traversed
through there or were excusely fonic and traversed through there

(21:59):
were big as we know, we've heard many times brent waterways,
railroad tracks, yeah, power lies. These are these are avenues
which bigfoot Rome m.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, no doubt. And certainly Michigan has has a howl
of a lot of you know, forest and uh, lots
of lands and and uh, what's the word I'm looking for.
But you know, it's not like it's all industrial. I mean,
and in the whole place. It's very agricultural in some
spots and very rugged and wooded, Like the Northern Peninsula

(22:34):
is almost all forest. The thing is really not very
widely inhabited.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Correct, Oh boy, you're talking about the.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Upper Peninsula, Yeah, other Upper Peninsula.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well yeah, well well I'll tell you this with the
state of Michigan. I live in southern Michigan. Really, I'm
like an our the Ohio border, Okay, and Monroe is
forty forty five minutes. It's closer to a high So
you're you're on the eastern I'm on the eastern side.
I'm just I'm like twenty fifteen minutes outhside Detroit, gotcha, okay,

(23:09):
So they call it southeastern Lower Michigan is basically how
is what we're referred to where.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I live anyways, sure, okay.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
And yeah there's woods around where I live, certainly, but
the denser forests you've got to travel in some instances
maybe an hour maybe up towards Port hereon. Oh but
and then where my bigfoot encounter was was like a
two and a half three hour ride in Cadillac in
the Manistee National Forest. So when you get there, once

(23:39):
you get side of outside of Flint, Michigan, it's just
all nature, mother nature.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah. I used to live here.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Oh I know exactly where that is. Yeah, you used
to live in the here. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
I lived there for about a year back, just out
of high school with my cousin's family. Yeah. I lived
out there, okay, in a lot of lakes around there.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah. Yeah, all late orions out there.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, yes, yes. I got to run to the first second.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Back so so well, so I was reading this so
when I when I when I found this on the
radio station today, I ran into that, you guys, and
I got to tell you there's a lot of accounts.
There's two hundred and twenty six according to the BFRORO
two hundred and twenty six accounts here in the state

(24:26):
of Michigan. I'm sure there's far more than that, because
I've gotten like eight myself from people that live in
Michigan since twenty eighteen that just happened to randomly send
emails in. But Monroe is a vast area where there's
been several reportings in my state of Monroe were bigfoot

(24:51):
has been has been spotted, And like what Brent was
alluding to, and I've got a cool story here in
a minute, since he brought up about in the Upper
Peninsula about this man that came across a bigfoot, which
I'll tell that when Brent gets back so we can
hear this. But I want to things. I want to

(25:16):
thank everybody for coming on in here. Rags, Christy sci Fi,
how you doing? Eric Frye, John Tamborine is in the house. Keith, Hello, Keith, Hello,
my buddy, Jemini Moon she listened for it here on
what's happening there. Diane Bosses in the house scrolling down. Hello,

(25:39):
Joey An, how are you good to see? Jason Finch, Hello,
good to see you. A lot of the same people
are chatting in here. There's over forty of you ready
in here, so same people are chatting it up all
things Beastie, you knew, I don't know, first time seeing you.
Welcome to the show. Hello, Tyler, how's it going, Amanda?

(26:02):
How's it going to Amanda? My there's Brent. So so from
where I live, Brent, as I'm saying, Monroe, Michigan, there's Bigfoot.
And then you mentioned about the Upper Peninsula. Now, if
you go, let's say where I live in southeastern Michigan,

(26:23):
if I were to walk into a tavern or a
restaurant and bring up Bigfoot, you get that weird look, sure,
you know. But if you go over the bridge, the
Macanow Bridge, and you stop into a local establishment and
you bring up Bigfoot, you don't get that weird look.

(26:43):
It's like, oh, yeah, they're here. There was this story
that I guess sometimes I've told this before, but since
round the subject and you ask about the Upper Peninsula,
this was very It was this kind of creepy Brent,
and at the same time validated a lot of things. Really,
I mean, as far as up goes, because it is

(27:04):
very desolate, it's hard to get through and I imagine
there's so much uncharted territory in the up because of
the denseness of the forest. Right. So this guy sent
me his email a couple of years ago, and he
lives just out in the foothills of the Porcupine Mountains,

(27:25):
and he's a bigfoot researcher. As he goes on explain
to me, but he never had found really any evidence.
But he's been doing this for several years and heard
about the legend, the lore people in town saying yes,
they've seen Bigfoot. So this guy a bigfoot dwarf. This
guy was really into it quite a bit, Right, he

(27:47):
was really into it quite a bit. WHOA, I got
a surprise guest my co host on Tuesday Night, My buddy,
I'm gonna pull her off. What's up? Christa?

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Hey, I thought I would come hang out with two
of my favorite people.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
So, yeah, you tell you to read I did.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
I just said it was the two of you guys.
I've been working for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I'm like, I am on, y. Did you hear the
cool story about a ninety seven point one of the
ticket There's a guy they were talking about a bigfoot
counter just that happened on Sunday and they were making
fun of it, and then I posted on their YouTube page,
hey Bigfoot's real. So there's a guy in the chat
room that saw that. Now he's here. His name's Robert.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
From That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah. So hey, that was pretty cool, very cool, very cool.
So good to see you, Krista.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Yeah, good to be here.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, it's been a long time, Christa, Yeah it has been.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
I'm home today from work, and just because I didn't
feel like I'm gonna lie, I'm not sick, I'm fine.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
I just this morning.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
You know, that's great. That's a great thing. Working from home.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Though I'm not even working. I got sold, you know,
I'm just gonna use.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
What's a nice surprise. So so we're talking about the Bigfoot.
I believe that this man Monroe saw bigfoot. Bigfoot exists,
Brant and I know they exist. You've seen a bigfoot.
You know they exist. And so Brent was asking me
about the Upper Peninsula, how vast it is a lot
of uncharted land. So I'm revisiting a story I told

(29:26):
maybe last year about this guy. There was a bigfoot
research in the Porcupine Mountains over the bridge in mackanaw
over the Macanon Bridge in the Porcupine Mountains. So and
he knows they exist, he doesn't know. He's not a
no or a believer. Right, So East Sparky Outdoor, how
you doing? So? So yeah, this guy was on to

(29:50):
tell me Rob I finally I was off one of
these roads, his back roads at the foothills with Porkymins Mountains,
and and he got this feeling that yea, this is
an idea where we go explore. So he gets out
of his vehicle. He had a jeep wrangler, if I
recall correctly, and he saw somewhat of an opening. Because

(30:11):
again it's like Brent was asking, it's along the woodline
is very dense. But he saw kind of an opening.
So he's as a machetes he's hacking his way through
it and he gets through maybe ninety feet where it
kind of opens up there's a little bigger opening, and
he's walking. Then he sees this all this foliage of

(30:35):
trees and they kind of made like a tunnel, like
made of trees. Though you know how we have the
tunnel of trees and Traverse City for the oh you
maybe you don't know that, Crystal, but we have the
tunnel of trees in Upper Michigan where it's a big
long five mile tunnel you can drive and its trees.
It's very beautiful. He goes, it wasn't quite like that, rob,

(30:57):
but it was a lot shorter, maybe uh five foot
hall for a man to kind of walk through. And
he starts walking through this tunnel of trees and foilers,
and it was so dense that it kind of darkened
the sun out, and it was just just enough light
where you could see where he was going without a flashlight.

(31:19):
So he's not paying any attention, you guys. And then
he notices odd smell of like dead meat, like a carcass,
and he's looking up and around. He's not paying attention
toward he's walking. But then he trips over and falls
down and as he hits the ground, it's very damp
and it's very moist, and he gets up and he

(31:41):
kind of screams like a little girl. He says to me,
he has his hands, his arms, and his stomach were
all covered in blood, fresh kill of a deer he
tripped over. Wow, So now this guy is freaking out.
Now he thinks he's stumbled in to a beard, a beer,

(32:03):
a bear down, right.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
A beard, Den's a bar, I think, get me there,
I'll go to the beard.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Then, yeah, a beard, then in the bear down? How
about that? You know?

Speaker 4 (32:17):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
So hey, I'm gonna black out real quick and grab
my tee, but I'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, go ahead. So so he gets up and now
he's scared Brent and everybody listening and watching. So now
he's kind of like, Yep, i'man a beard, then a
bear down beer pece, I guess I'm gonna have a
beer after the show. The beardn he thinks he's in
a bear dan, so he turns around, but then he

(32:46):
realizes that he can't turn around and leave the way
he came in because what he notices about fifty to
sixty feet Brent down this tunnel of trees, he sees
a set of glowing eyes, big bulbous, glowing eyes, and
this thing is approaching this guy. Now, as I mentioned,

(33:09):
if you caught on earlier, this is only five and
a half five feet tall, and he's kind of crouched down.
He's over five foot tall. And this thing, as he's
looking it was low to the ground. The eyes were
no more than a foot above ground, and it was
kind of reminded him, and he's thinking in his mind,
what the hell can this be, because from both sides

(33:32):
of this tunnel he notices like these arms, and he's
thinking it's a huge, gigantic spider. And we've all heard
about how sometimes sasquatch or bigfoot do that spider call.
But he's not thinking it's that. He's thinking it's just
some humongous unknown spider. That's what he's thinking. So now

(33:54):
he can't turn around and exit. He's got to go
pass the way where he tripped over the deer, and
he's in this tunnel of trees, and as he's going forward,
he can hear this thing getting closer, and he's just
praying for an exit, an entrance onto a road. Then

(34:15):
he sees a glimmer of light ahead and he starts.
He doesn't want to run because he knows that if
you run, you instantly you know predators, they're gonna they're
gonna snatch you up, right, But he still think he's
a gunner anyway. He doesn't know what this thing is
that's following him through the tunnel. He finally gets to

(34:36):
the edge of the tunnel, he trips out of the
tunnel into daylight, and there's this big meadow and at
the end of the meadow is another tree line of
the forest and the Porcupine mountains. So he gets up
and he says, screw it. He just starts running through
his meadow. But then his instincts stop, stop him in

(34:56):
his tracks. Nope, don't run. So he says, Robi, stop
and I look, and he says, standing there at the
edge of the base of that tunnel, is is you?
Among his humanoid looking figure black, he goes, having an
eight or nine foot tall standing on two legs, and

(35:17):
he goes, rob I think it was a bigfoot, and
it let out this like whoop sound. We've all heard
the whoops at him. He looked at it, and then
it got down on all fours, crouched again and went
back through the tunnel. But now he's not going Now
he's thinking, where the hell am I? I can't I'm
not going through there again. Now he's lost, don't know

(35:39):
where he's at, don't know how long he's been running.
So he starts trekking. And the only way he can
do now he has got a trek through this other
tree line because the meadow lands, and there's the woods.
There's no roads. This is the Upper Peninsula, you guys.
He finds a trail cut in into the tree line

(36:01):
and he's like a little more, thank you lord. There's
a trail, so people traverse this. He says, he's on
the trail fifteen minutes or whatever. He was then it
led him to an interstate road. Now he is relieved,
gets out. Of course, there's no cars, doesn't know where
he's at, and he just starts. He picks a direction

(36:25):
to turn and starts walking. He says he's walking five
or ten minutes and he's semi truck. A logging truck
starts coming down the road. He's like, oh cool, you know,
blah blah blah. You know, he's gonna try to flag
this trucker. Now gets out in the middle of the road,
waving his hands back and forth, and this trucker slows up, stops.

(36:46):
The trucker looks at this guy covered in blood, right,
you know, he's like, hey, no, I'm out of murderer,
I'm out of you know, this is dear blood, this
or the other. Please, I don't know where I'm at.
I'm a lot. I had this traumatic experience. Truck driver says,
kind of got the sense that he was telling the truth.

(37:07):
Lets him in the truck, the semi logging truck, and
he goes, where are you headed? He goes, I don't know.
My car was over on whatever road it was. He goes, man,
you're well a way away from your car. My friend,
oh and uh. The guy says, uh, can you get
me least close or at least to uh a gas
station so I could call somebody. He goes, I'll take

(37:29):
you to your vehicles if if that's where your car is.
I know. He goes, I know these these parts. So
the truck driving guy starts asking him some questions and
he says, so what happened man? And he goes, You're
not gonna believe me if I tell you. And he
goes on and tell me, I'm into bigfoot. I was
looking for this research. I found this spot, this, that,
and the other. I got in this tunnel of trees

(37:51):
and I sum across the dead carcass of the deer
and then I get up and there's and he says, again,
you're not gonna believe me. I seen this huge like spie.
I'm thinking that the time is in there following me.
So I get out of this tunnel, he goes, and
I get When I get out, he goes, man, this
big humanoid, I think it's a big foot of submerged

(38:11):
stood up, went back out of all fours, went back
in the tunnel and he goes, yeah, you saw a sasquatch. Man.
They're all around here. He goes, you've definitely seen sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
And uh so now the guy is relieved, and he goes, yeah,
I don't know that he would have, you know, taken
your life or anything. I don't want to. I don't
know what the words are on YouTube anymore can even
say that. I don't know. But anyways, good enough alive
to stick with you. I'll sun alive, do this, that
and the others. So he gets into his jeep, gets

(38:43):
back in and he takes off, gets home, has a
good yarn to tell his friends. Now he is a believer,
a knower, and he goes, yeah, so Rob, that's my experience,
and so yeah, Brett asked me this question about ten
minutes on. I answered it for you about it took
me an hour, but yeah, how about that though, So hey,

(39:08):
they're here, they're everywhere.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I can't imagine what that would feel like though, to
be in like a tunnel of trees and then you
look back and that's coming and not even be able
to be sure what the hell it is. I mean, honestly,
I think the idea of it being a giant spider
is much more terrifying to me, because you know spider.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
You don't think about a spider and think, well, maybe
it'll be nice. I mean, you know, if a spider's come,
it's gonna eat you. That's it. That's all you got cooking.
But if you have the bigfoot, usually they're not really
aggressive and people see them and it's fine. So the
whole spider thing freaking out, the.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Whole spider thing. And I do not like spiders. I
have so many different phobias anyway, Yeah, and spider, I
could spiders, you know, I can't imagine. You got to figure.
You know, the eyes, as he explains to me, are
hovering about a foot off the ground, big eyes, and
he could see arms that were kind of extended from
either side of the tunnel, so it's huge.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah, I think I was gonna say, here's the thing too. Okay,
So he's in the tunnel, so he can't even turn
around and go back to like where his car was.
You know what I mean, take that way. So like,
what do you do, like I would put.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
In my crap.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Oh yeah, yeah lost, Yeah, I can't imagine. I'm just
picturing this scenario. You go through this traumatic experience. For one,
you turn around, you see a big foot, and then
you see this meadow. Then there's nothing but the force
in front of you. Again, luckily it's daytimes, he says,
it's maybe one two in the afternoon. But you got

(40:42):
to trudge through a forest hopefully, hopefully get to a road,
and the Upper Peninsula is not a place too long
get lost. And really he got lucky.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yes, yes he did, very he did know at in
a lot of ways he got. But what a what
an incredible experience. I mean, that's really a lot of
a lot of big foot encounters are like, Wow, I
was hiking and heard some noise in the brush, looked
up and there was this creature standing in the path,
and that's like the gist of it. But this guy's

(41:15):
in a tunnel of trees. He's got something chasing him
through it, and it looks like a spider. Then it
stands up and it's a huge I mean that's a
Hollywood type of experience, just backed with suspense.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's a scary one.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Yeah, that's that's pretty scary. That's always stuck with me.
That's uh. I do have that in my first book.
I put that it was worthy of getting put in that.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Well, you know, you talked about about the Bigfoot being
like on off or you know, spider crawling and stuff too.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
I know.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
I have a friend Gabby Henderson at the Land between
the Lakes. She had a dog man encounter and it
was crop creepy crawling on all fours.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
That's gonna be that's gonna be worse. Yikes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
So I mean I think they all do it, you know,
big for it. The dog man.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Wow, who is that again? Do I know him?

Speaker 3 (42:12):
It was Gabby Henderson mm hmm. Gabby and Elijah Henderson. Okay, yeah,
they've got their own channel.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Wow, yeah, with a couple other people.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Elijah didn't see it, but Gabby and another person did.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
It's kind of thing you can't unsee too. I mean, like,
once you've seen it, it's in there, it's going to
be there always if.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
I'm gonna, you know, like run into like a dog
man or something. I wanted to be on twos. Yeah, yeah,
just kind of that would freak me out.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
I'm just saying, you said you wanted to be on two.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
I would like for it to be on twos. Yeah,
I like for it to be by people, not on
creepy prowling.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
No, I can't imagine that, you know, I've seen.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
What.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I don't think there are real pictures, but I see
the depictions of the big Foot or Sasquatch doing the
spider crawl. That just is disturbing.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I'm saying, yeah, yeah, It's one thing to think there
might be a towering giant out there, but it's a
whole level of creepier that it might be crawling along
the woodline on the on the ground. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
Wow, yep, Yeah, that creaks me out.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
It's kind of disturbing, Yeah, very much. So, Yeah, kind of.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Some time this weekend because I'm going to be out
in Brandy and I were going out to the woods
this weekend. Well it's it's close, it's not far from here,
and it's we're going with Miguel Ramiers from Sasquatch.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Theory ah, Yes.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Weekend and we're paranormal.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
I think going to come over and our friend Terry
Moseby and some of our team members from Punted Souls
be fun.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
And I got to tell you what we have Miguel
maybe last maybe three or four beginning of this month.
And I tell you what. First of all, he's got
a great channel sasquatch theory, right yep. And I'm glad
we got a chance to medium. You met him before
I did. But I must tell you you talk about
a magnet for the paranormal and big for it, absolutely,

(44:28):
and he has. He was on the show and he
said many people on the show about their experiences. I
had no idea, Chris, of all the things he's come
across personally himself, you could do a whole video on himself.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Absolutely, he could. Yeah you know.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
So I'm looking forward to this weekend spending some one
on one time with them and stuff out in the woods.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
I think it's going to be pretty.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Good, which kind of brings me up to a question.
Me and Christoph talked about this. Brent, I want your
take on this. You can obviously try the man. Why
do you think certain people and it doesn't even have
to be cryptives, but once they have an encounter and experience,

(45:12):
they have many of them. Because I know several people
that have been researching Bigfoot and even the paranormal for ten, fifteen,
twenty years now. Me and Chris always say your intentions,
but there's but they never come across anything. And there's
a person like myself, there wasn't a researcher I come

(45:35):
across something. Well, I've seen all sorts of paranormal things
in my entire life. But there are people that just
come across these things and all of a sudden they
see one, then six months later they see another one,
a year later they see another one, and they aren't
even looking for these things? Do you think I mean,

(45:57):
I get that so often that is I think it's
a valid question to ask, why do you think that is?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yeah, And that's something that really blew my mind away too.
As I started talking to more and more experiencers, was like,
there seems to be in a lot of cases, if
they weren't dealing with their entire life, there was one
catalyzing moment where they saw something. And I think it's
it's maybe manyfold for an explanation like one One factor

(46:25):
may very well be that an awareness opened up in
them in their in their mind and their energy and
their in their perception where I mean, if you're living
your life like most people, it's you're you've got blinders
on and you're doing whatever you're doing, and you're that's
what your focus is. But then something out of absolutely

(46:46):
blowing you away that happened, that's beyond explanation. I think
it it triggers an awareness in us. So maybe it's
after a person that has seen something like that, they're
more likely to notice other things that maybe they wouldn't
have before. So maybe some of it is the person's awareness.
I certainly believe that there's something of an energy principle

(47:08):
to it. That you know, like some people just seem
to attract things, and it seems to be a resonance,
like some things are drawn to people, like hauntings. There's
some people that deal with hauntings no matter where they are,
doing whatever, and I think that there's a resonance that
is happening, and they service somewhat of a beacon. And

(47:30):
I imagine that can be same for the cryptids and
for potentially UFO or anything that these people just have
a bright light, so to speak. And that's not to
dimension anyone else. But maybe there's also and this is
absolutely just a wild theory, but it almost makes me
think of like maybe there's some kind of quantum entanglement

(47:51):
that happens. It's maybe not predicated on one particle two
particles from the same atom, which usual quantum and tangle is,
but it's just like some sort of connection that's happened
now between you and all of this other stuff that
seems to exist a little bit beyond our normal realm.
And and so that maybe that again gets back to

(48:13):
the awareness. But you know, I've been spitballing the same
thing for years, and that's that's my best idea so far.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I like the idea Me and Chris always volleyball back
and forth with your intention, Like if you have no
good test, you're not going to show themselves. Yeah, that's
you know, which I believe a lot of the intent
thing with since id pelling around Chris over the last
several years. I also think too, like all the reports

(48:44):
that you see on these websites, say the BFI ro
or even a lot of the stuff that I get
in ninety percent of time is not the researcher Brent
christis the person that's camping with the family. Yeah, have
no clue, care less about bigfoot, yet become roaming through
their can.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
So I got a theory about that one, Rob, Yeah,
Well my theory about that one is the interesting thing,
the base, the most basic principle of it that I
think distinguishes one from the other is that one is
looking for it and the other isn't. And and by
that I mean I think that these things are aware
of us as soon as we step in the forest,
like they're already watching and they're they're observing. But I

(49:29):
think they're they're intelligent enough to go, why does it
look Look at that tree break that I made or
the other day, what's going on? Why are they pouring
that stuff in my footprints? Why are they collecting you know, hair?
So I think maybe they think they're being hunted, and
that of course creates you know that, oh this is
not safe, they're after us, stay back. But then you
got Joe Smith and the family truckster out there having

(49:52):
a bonfire, playing, laughing, and so it's not intimidating to
them to feel like they want to go check it out.
So I think you're right about the intention, but I
think it also there's plenty of observational evidence that they
could look and go, why are they looking where we slept?
Look where we made our bed. They're over there messing
with it. They're after us, And I think these things

(50:13):
have survived by, you know, basically staying away from us,
at least in that extent. So that's my take on it.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
I'd like to take in another thing I often get it,
like from my brother. My brother does believe in bigfoot today.
He does back then he didn't really grain of salt
type of thing. But you also you get all these hunters.
I've been in the woods hunting ten years, fifteen, twenty years,

(50:43):
I've never seen a bigfoot, you know, And you get
that more from the hunting community than anybody. And what
I kind of kind of semiced about it is, well,
number one, you're not looking right, and number two, like
what you had said, Brent, mm hmm, bigfoot knows that

(51:08):
a gun will hurt them, a rifle will hurt them.
They will know they're not going to show themselves right
because you don't know what a yahoo might do with
that rifle. Oh what what d hell is that I'm
gonna take a shot at it. You don't want no
part of that.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
True.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Plus two, maybe you know, just like showing up in
people's camps and stuff late at night while they're sleeping.
You know, I think there's like you know, maybe smell
of foods and stuff too, you know, might attract them.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
True.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Oh yeah, I know you're right. Yeah, you know I've
heard stories of the Bigfoot running through and just eating
all their hot dogs, their hamburgers and looking out of there.
I mean, do you think about a lot of the
you know, a lot of the different counters in some
instances are quite funny. Yeah, you know, he ate all

(52:03):
the peanut butter. That was all he That's all he did.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Do you think they got a sense of humor? I'm
kind of curious.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
I probably think they do.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah, I would say so, like you know, yeah, like
hey watch this, hold my watch what I'm gonna do?

Speaker 3 (52:20):
I mean, you got to think there's I believe there's
good big Foot and there's bad big Foot.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
O sure, you know, so why not why not have
a sense of humor?

Speaker 1 (52:29):
You know, I mean and really quickly like my big
Foot today, I don't think was bad. I just think
he did. I just think I think my big Foot
was a rogue booted out of a clan, so he
was probably just a very angry individual. And when I
say individual, I think they do have a sense of humor.
Because I'm not gonna call hey, listen, You'll never catch

(52:50):
me saying that the gentle forest giant. Because of my experience,
people hate get upset with me when I say that.
I don't think they're evil today, christ you said, just
good and bad in every walk of life.

Speaker 4 (53:05):
Everything, I mean.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Everything, you know, I do think that Bigfoot has a
human element. They're not. I'm out in the apor group.
I mean, I think there's a human DNA somewhere in there.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Yeah, I feel like, you know, you hear them, you
know you for instance, like the Sierra sounds people talk
about and you know, or you know, like that maybe
they were arguing or something like that.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
That's stuff that we do, you know.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
And then I'm sure there's times that you know they're
happy and laughing and having a good time as well.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
You know, it's all human like qualities.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Mhm. I got this email. I'm going to read this.
I don't have a time. It was just kind of
like another report I'm gonna share with you guys, and
we can go over this. And I always love these
when they come from the First Nations people because I
tell you what they're the ones I love talking to
them because you get both sides of the coin. The

(54:00):
flesh and blood versus the supernatural or the spiritual is
more what they would go with. And this was an
encounter at an Indian reservation in nineteen seventy five. And
the emailer says to me, my name is Cheryl, a
Mohawk Indian who grew up on the on a Daga

(54:23):
Indian reservation. I'll never forget when my cousin I saw Bigfoot.
We are both eleven years old. March eleven, nineteen seventy five,
at eleven am, we left my aunt my aunt's house
that morning and decided to cut through the woods, thinking
it would be safer than two young girls walking along

(54:43):
the road. Throughout our walk is seen that we were
being watched. We finally arrived at the halfway point of
our journey when we reached the local abandoned gravel pits.
I slid down the embankment my first. I slid down
the taman first and my cousin followed. I started to

(55:03):
play on the frozen mud puddle. When she started to
climb back up the hill to retrieve for glove, she
called me for She called me to come near her,
but didn't get it right away, until finally her persistence
frightened me. She grabbed me clothes and said a big

(55:24):
black arm just tried to grab me. Thinking that maybe
a hunter had followed us, or even a black man
was lurking in the woods, frightened us enough to make
a run for the road. As we got to the road,
we both saw the big figure walk through some six
to eight foot sumac trees or summach trees sumach okay.

(55:51):
Its head and shoulders were over the tops of the trees,
and we could imagine how it could have traveled to
the other side of the pit, which was at at
least one hundred and fifty feet from where she first
saw the arm. We ran the rest of the way
home and told our family we had seen sasquatch. Of course,
everyone laughed at us. As the years passed by and

(56:14):
we were told the exact same story our families believe us. Now,
looking back, I have concluded that Bigfoot was heading towards
an underground cave that is sacred to the Anna Dega.
I believe that this cave connects other Indian reservations by
underground channels. Indian legends tell stories that Bigfoot is a

(56:37):
spirit that protects the Indians. That it's probably why no
one has ever found any proof of his existence. I
have had many dreams of Bigfoot where he comes back
with others like him. Their calls are frightening. When I
walk in the woods, I am afraid that I will
see him again. I wonder if I saw him becase,

(57:00):
because if the world ever ends, I have dreamt that
will be the one to lead my people underground until
the earth heels itself from all of the destruction that
is forecasted. It is forecasted that our earth is consumed
flames to cleanse herself. The Indian will come up from

(57:22):
the underground to begin life again. Hoping you like this story,
Just to let you know, Rob, I've sent this to
other blogs and websites, so to let you know you
weren't the first. I came across your channel several months ago.
Thank you if you decide to share this.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
So did this person say what stated is? Because we
have an Onondaga cave here in Missouri.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Uh No, that's all I got. I just read it
word for word how she's sent us.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
I actually used to live like a mile from that
Nantaga cave in Missouri.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
And just just for reference for everybody, she did mention
that she sent this to other blogs and websites. So
I just want to make that clear. I'm out the
I just didn't get this. She's this has been out
there of case people for death story. I don't know.
I obviously never heard it. So no, I don't know.
That's a good question. I mean, let me ask you this.

(58:24):
With certain tribal nations, they're just predominant to one territory, right,
you know, would like what do we have here on
Are Cherokee just in one state or they in multiple states?

Speaker 2 (58:38):
I never really the Cherokee nation was used to be huge.
I mean it was many states worth. Yeah, it was enormous.
In fact, it was probably one of the most predominant
First Nations tribes on the eastern and central parts of
the country. I think, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Rags as you am multiple, I guess they are multiple states.
I don't know. Christ should not leave that.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
I just googled it to see how many on and
Dogga caves. So far, Missouri is the only one that's
showing up. So I find that interesting.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Well, once again, your state's got you know, you've got
dog man carn state.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
Missouri is known as the cave state, just so.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
You know, Yeah, are you second? Must be the second
runner up to Kentucky?

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Right, I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Bunch of states.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
The case too. I heard all the Missouri's got everything
to Yeah, you guys got hanted stuff, bigfoot, dog man.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
So I found that interesting though. How she again? And
when we riverb back to first nations? You know, spiritual leaders,
these big foot, these sasquatches they call them. Hopefully one
day when the world ends to day, the sasquatch will
lead them out. I mean that's your thinking according to
that email, right, mm hm, different way of thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Yeah, interesting for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
You know what's interesting as well as the is the varied,
the varied accounts of bigfoot sasquatch from tribe to tribe.
Some of them I've looked at them as these benevolent creatures.
Some of them have looked at them as just another
tribe before us people. And then others have looked at
them as you know, adversaries and doing battle with them
and having villagers taken. So like there's this whole spectrum

(01:00:26):
of First Nation experiences with what we understand as bigfoots.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
You know, yeah, very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
Now I hear you they are bred. It's like the
one thing that we can all agree on, well, we
agree on most things, is that when it comes to
sasquatch or bigfoot, it's the cultures and the people's belief
systems are not all in tune, right. You know, there's

(01:00:58):
one set of people or cultures to believe one way,
there's another set that believes it another way, and then
you'll have a culture that believes both ways.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Some people even believe that the dog man, believe or not,
is the protector of the forest.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Well, there's also some First Nations references that say that
dog man or whatever I don't remember, I don't know
the traditional name for it, is also a guardian of
portals and burial mountains.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Maybe that's why they're seeing it around cemeteries a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
We did a showing why do dog men always show
up his cemeteries?

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Yeap, So where I'm going to be this week, and
I will tell you it's like a mile away from
that dog Man Road I was talking about. And they're
small abandoned cemeteries.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Be careful.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Yeah, yeah, you know. I got a cemetery not too
far from here on the road. We haven't hang out yet.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
One night mhm got one right down the road. Our
property touches it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Oh, I seen that way, I seen that. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
I don't have any cemeteries near me, So.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
You're good, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
I probably asked you, Chris, have you ever been through
that place any looking around for paaring normal stuff?

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Yeah, yeah, there's nothing, no activity.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Not really.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
No Brandy and I, because she's got one close to
her too, we thought about going live doing doing one
of our shows. I'll sit at the cemetery and she
sits at the one hurt and do a show from
the cemeteries, two different cemeteries. Yeah, I've never really nothing
down there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I had to say hello to Duke. I see Duke
came in the in the chat.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah, he's snuck in the back door.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Very cool. We're just talking about Colomba or Duke, just
so you know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Yeah, Duke was not last Thursday. Last Thursday, we had
a great show. We talked some mountain giants.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Of course. You know, Duke had a lot of pictures
from his last research outing. If you didn't see you
last Thursday show at me and Duke, who was great. Yeah,
a lot of cool pictures. You know, Duke always comes
up with something interesting as always. Columbia last Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Oh cool cool. I'd like to get back up there sometimes.
That was That was a really cool place. Both times
I was there, got some really incredible spirit activity and
voices through the equipment, so really cool stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
I remember Duke was telling me, thank you so much,
Ammy five New priorates our Amy Creole five New Pirates.
Well we're at it. Thanks to Keith for Michigan five
dollars super chair. Thank you Keith. Keith says he had
a great time with Brandy and texts whether he was

(01:04:10):
last on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Yeah, I apologize to Keith for not being on. I honestly,
I I a lot of you guys know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
I'm doing the weight loss shots and I do him
on Thursdays, which when I get done here, I'm getting
ready to go do it, and sometimes it makes me sick.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
I think I think that's what happened that night. There's
one film very good so.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
And uh in my latest Yeah, in my latest stock
your rags, thanks for eggs. Appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Not being on my show.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah, BRENTA Brent Duke was telling me that you missed
on the Glag siting because you would have your glasses
on or something.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Yeah. Yeah, it was just after Dan and I got
done hiking all over the area and doing different investigators stuff.
I mean, here's the thing. I'm kind I'm kind of
a pudgy guy, right and I'm not in really good shape.
And I'll tell you the oxygen's a lot less up there.
At least that's what I'm blaming it on. So I
got back and I was like, took my glasses off.

(01:05:13):
I'm sweaty, and I'm just sitting there going oh. And
then Kevin came up and said, hey, I want to
show you something. I'm like, oh, okay, can I talk
to you? He said, can I talk to you? And
I want to show you something. I'm like yeah. So
we walked down the path and then we got to
a spot and that's when he he claimed that Glag
was there. Now I had taken my glasses off didn't
even think about putting them on because I mean it

(01:05:35):
was dark. I didn't expect to see much anyway, and uh,
you know, I just didn't think of it. And then
we're out there. He's like, he's up there on the hill,
and honestly, I looked for all I was worth, but
you know, doing the squinty stuff, but I didn't see it.
I you know, honest to God, I wish I did.
I really do. I think that that could have been

(01:05:56):
like an incredible event. But you know, I just I
will tell you that the energy up there is off
the charts. And you know, usually if I can't see something,
I trust my vibes, but my vibes are all over
the map anyway up there. And I just told Kevin,
I said, well, you know, I can't see anything, but
I can tell you that I feel the vibration in

(01:06:17):
the air. It's so intense, and so he claimed he
claimed it was there. I wish I could have seen it,
I really do. And uh, you know, it's one of
the big regrets of my life. But I tried. I
just wasn't going to march back, you know, an eighth
of a mile back to the truck and grab my
glasses and try to get back out there and see something.

(01:06:37):
But yeah, so it was you know, I did my best,
but I just honestly can't say that I saw it.
That's and I'm not claiming that it wasn't there. I'm
just saying I wasn't able to see it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:50):
So, yeah, that happens to the best of us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
Yeah. If I didn't have contacts in, I couldn't see
my face in the mirror.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Really, my eyes. Well, when I was a kid, the
doctor told my mom, but I was quote unquote legally blind. Oh,
I don't know if I go that far.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
How thick are your contact rob are we No, they're
paper thin? I mean okay, all right, I'm just sure.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
And even my glasses that I don't wear, I mean
I'm thick.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Okay, Yeah, I have to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
I have to wear glasses to see up close. I
can see far away great, it's just up close.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
That's why. Yeah, I can't see close or far.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I can see far. I can see far, but I
can't see detail and close up. I'm usually pretty good,
but there's sometimes I gotta tell you, my eyes get
blurry just staring at these screens. So sometimes where my
glasses do. Uh yeah, duke, I did mention that on
the show too, about catching that shadow ducking down that's
eight or nine foot shadow. That I mentioned that a
little earlier on the show that that was really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
I am, it's funny we're talking about being able to
see because this is I just did this maybe three
days ago. I woke up early in the morning and
I didn't feel like making any coffee, but I just
wanted to get some coffee. So I drove up to
the local tim Hortons that I have, you know, not
too far up the street, maybe half a mile. So

(01:08:27):
I didn't put in my contact nothing, just for the acts,
you know. So I put out my glasses and I'm driving,
and then, for whatever the reason, you guys, I started
thinking about my optometrist that told my mom I was
legally blind, and so I was thinking in my head,
these are the weird things I think about. So I
pulled in the tim Hortons, get my coffee, paid for it,

(01:08:49):
and I took off my glasses. I wanted to test
my vision, so I attempted to drive home from the
tim Hortons without wearing my glasses. Uh don't recommend it. Yeah, yeah,
we couldn't see. Here's the problem. I could see the
cars in front of me, but there was some idiot jaywalking.

(01:09:15):
Oh yeah, and I did not see him.

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
Oh you better.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
Well, here's here's the thing. Everybody listening for whatever the reason,
I started getting a little uncomfortable. See I would just
put now, I probably in my neighborhood. I could probably
get around. But then when I put on my glasses,
fifty feet in front of me is some old guy jaywalking,
which I probably would have ran him over if I

(01:09:45):
did not put my glasses in the nick of time.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Maybe maybe seeing your vision challenges when you're in an
empty parking lot or something or something.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, you know, it's like six thirty in the morning.
It's kind of dusky dawn, you know, kind of raining.
We've had a rain in the last five days.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Perfect time to challenge your vision.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
It was a challenge. I put that to the test.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
At least you didn't hit the guy, so hey, it
worked out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
I would have probably missed him anyways, but it was
too close to call. Oh man, hello life with Bobby.
Good to see you. Good to see everybody that came
on in. If you knew you were please subscribe The
big Foot Miss Grub on YouTube, Brent Thomas, The Parent

(01:10:37):
Normal Portal, The Blondes and the Booze Paranol Podcast with
Christian Brandy. Of course, Duke Sullivan. I always when I
see Duke Duke World, Bigfoot Central, I always. Once in
a while we talked about the glag saga Glad Duke
was on the Last Year'sday. You really, if you're not subscribe,
go check out that saga. It because it's He'll never

(01:11:00):
do it, but you could make He's not a sellout,
Duke's not a sellout. You could make a great epic
Netflix movie out of that saga. Would you not agree? Brent? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Yeah, I mean that's that experience is it stands all
on its own. I've never heard anything look quite like it,
And having having had the benefit of talking with Kevin
and interviewing it as well. Yes, the emotion, the emotion
that guy put out either he's an Oscar great actor
or he was absolutely tilling the truth. And I mean

(01:11:32):
it was real the emotion as far as I could tell,
that guy was pouring his heart out in that story.
So it's it's incredibly powerful, it's incredibly tragic. And a
lot of other things. But that's really fascinating. Yeah. It
would make a hell of a hell of a of
a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Yeah, Chris, So you enjoy too, I know what's your tastes?
Are you really dig it? It's really it takes a
few days to get through all of them. It's really
pretty cool. Do you got going on tonight, Chris? That
today's Thursday? They're doing my fence. I see the guys
out there. I'm not going out there until we're done here.
They got to work. Did I tell you, Chris that

(01:12:13):
I had to get a new fence put in?

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
You did not tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Tree came down, crashed and took out my front fence.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Oh that sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
You're supposed to be your last week that duke was here.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Yeah, that sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Yeah. So what you got going tonight? Any any cool? Uh?
It's always a cool Sure.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
We have d a White song.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Yes, talking about her books? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
So that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Well, Well, that's it, and I'll be calling you later
because I'm you got another question on our airline situation?

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
Know, I was thinking about that too.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
I was thinking about that too, because like with the conference,
we might well probably have to longer than what we anticipated,
because if we rent tables and chairs, we're going to
get everything back. You might not want to fly out
until Monday. I'm just throwing that out there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Yeah, well I'm gonna write that down. Jesus, you just
threw a whole month your wrench and what I was
gonna tell you. Yeah, well, I'm glad you came on
because yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
When are you coming down? Brent?

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
So, so I'm thinking if I show up on Thursday?
Is that I think I'm showing up that Thursday. I'll
have to look at my notes again. But yeah, so
I'm gonna have both both days of activities and then
I think I go back. I start back on Sunday,
I think, if I'm remembering correctly, very very cool. Yeah,

(01:13:53):
it's gonna be twenty one hours each way driving, so
that'll be an adventure in road travel.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
Are you coming by yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Yeah, it's gonna be just me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
You know, well we can talk to anyone tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
So oh you know what, Sheldon, Sheldon, my son is
going to be there as well. He's gonna come from
Minnesota down and meet. We're going to meet there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
So is that the one you referred to as the
Minion or is that your other.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
No, my oldest son, the Minion is take.

Speaker 4 (01:14:21):
This phone call. It's an important one, so I gotta
sign off.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
But yeah, we're getting ready to wrap it up. Go
check out Kristen. Night you guys at nine o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Yeah, but yeah, the Minion is my nine year old,
so he's he's still quite young. But my old Sheldon
is thirty, so I got quite a spread. I got
a middle son in there, Oliver as well. He was uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Yeah, the Minnesota too. Yeah, hello smoking, Hello, Hello everybody,
Thanks for coming on in. This is a great show.
Thanks for the super chance Brent, of course, thank you.
Thanks for Christopher popping out. I'm gonna cut it a
little early. I have to go supervise what's going on outside.

(01:15:04):
If you're just if you're just coming in, I'm sorry.
We normally go ninety minutes. We're gonna cut it a
little bit short because of my yard situation here. But
if you did come in, though, bred this is a
great show, go back and watch the replay because yeah,
there was a couple of cool stories we did earlier.
One of the radio station people caught me talking about

(01:15:28):
there was a bigfoot counter that took place here in
Michigan Sunday. We talked about it on the radio show
and I chimed in, hey they exist, and so a
few people from ninety seven to one the ticket showed up. Today.
I have this show that's pretty cool, and thank you guys.
Thanks for that. Brent, let's me find.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
You find me a go to Paranormalportal dot net and
that'll show you everywhere that I am and get all
the information on when the live shows are, when to
catch the podcast, which is weekly. And yeah, today I've well,
actually in about twenty minutes I got to do an
interview for my podcast. So that's going to be coming
up today. But no live show tonight, not till Friday Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Not till Friday Saturday. Thanks to Keith, Thanks to REGs.
Thanks to Amy once again for your awesome contributions. Always appreciated,
never expected. Love you guys, Love everybody in the chat room.
And for those of you that watch to replay and
those that are watching now that don't participate in chat,
you're just as valuable a member, a viewer, subscriber, whatever

(01:16:31):
you want to call yourself. You're all equal so great show, Brent,
and maybe you'll be back on next week. I'll let
you know what's going on. You know, Hawai roll. I
don't have a way I get.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Yeah, it's good though. You actually give me notice. Text
gives me about five minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Well you know how text? You know text, you know text.
This is a text from texts. I want to do
a show when four minutes. Oh, thank you. Literally that's
what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
He's not a distance planner, but yeah, he's not for.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
A long long haul his short term boom.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
With that being said, everybody, thank you so much for
coming in. Check out the blonds of Boots tonight yet
d a y song will be I guess she's been
on this show before. She's she's really cool, awesome author,
talks parent almost stuff, so it'll be very nice. Thank you, Bret,
Thanks christ I'll be signing the out of here. Have
a great day, everybody. This is the future.

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