Brunch with Bigfoot Michigan Rob - Ep 141 - Monica Joins The Show To Dine With Us!

Monica from Our Paranormal World joins the show as Co Host to dine with us! You never know what's on the menu! Maybe Krista? It be Tasty no matter the flavor! #cryptids #paranormal #alien #bigfootmichiganrob #liveshow

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's that time. Hello, good afternoon everybody. Of course, it
is time for brunch with Bigfoot in Michigan Rob every
Thursday one o'clock in East. Thanks for coming on in.
We have a pretty cool show, a little different show
for you, a little different format change. As Monica brought
herself up early. Well why not? Why not? Monica did?

(00:22):
I'm sorry, Yeah you did.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
But that's a great way to start, because hey, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Have split screens and I thought I was clicking.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, well, gosh, don't it. Well, she's so excited because
she's my new co host. Now Texta is in the mix, Texas,
don't worry about text he I just found out today.
Well I didn't. I kind of knew that Texts really
can't co host this show anymore because of his work schedule.

(00:56):
And this is like the fifth time he's done this
in four years. I had Christa, I had Brandy, I
had Brandton. Now I have Monica for the duration. So
thank you Monica for taking your time out.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
I love co hosting with you. I think it's so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Okay, well awesome. I'm glad to have you.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Glad to shuffle my butt back into the yeah. No,
wait into the background for a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
No, you're good. I can do with you. With that
being said, I might as well just bring up Christa
because Christa. Because Chris says, hey, what are you doing?
I go, well, I'm doing my show. She goes, oh,
is text coming on? I said, no, I found his replacement.
She goes, well, I'm not doing nothing. Who's who is it?
I go it's Monica. She goes, oh, cool, Can I
come on? I go, well, yeah, I joined the party.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I took a pto today.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
You had a pt O day, so I got actually
two of my ladies from the Saturday night show. So
we got a little something different today, right, So thanks
for coming in. Of course, came out of chat earlier,
so I forgot sorry. We at least you weren't eating.
At least you weren't getting your little crackers and cheese

(02:08):
that you had backstage. At least you got rid of that,
right I did. Well. If this is your first time, everybody,
please subscribe The Bigfoot Mission Roub on YouTube. Krista the
Blondsie and The Boost Paranormal podcast, along with Brandy and
of course Monica rollins Our Para Normal World found on YouTube,

(02:29):
which I believe is ten o'clock my time or eleven. No,
it's ten Central, eleven in the East. The bonds drawn
Thursday Friday eight Central, ninth Central, and the other one
on Wednesday sixth Central. I probably messed up all the.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Time Central, I think, yeah, seven.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Or your guys around three times, yes, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday Blondes. Yes, correct,
she runs that show with Randy and Donny with the
debunking photos and video and stuff like that, which is.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Pretty cool, right. No, it's and Tell per normal show
and Tell Monica.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
We have so many around, like seven days a week.
I think we're not on Sundays only day, none of us.
I don't do nothing on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Between Brandy and I, we do eleven shows a week.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah yeah, well yeah, because you guys co host and
other shows. I'm on four days a week on this channel. Yeah, Tuesday, Thursdays,
every other Friday, and Saturday, three days for sure sometimes
for and then I also leave Wednesday opening because I
go on other people's shows as a guest. Now Wednesdays

(03:44):
I'm kind of always.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, Monica, you're getting quite a schedule too, aren't you.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, I'm doing my show's Thursdays. I do the Breezy
Speakeasy over on his channel on Friday nights, right Rob
on Saturday, and now this on Thursday. So yeah, yeah,
ended up.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, we're always busy with outside of our personal lives.
I guess it's I guess it's part of the personal
life when you do shows, right, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Turn one of our camels on people.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
You're you're sure to Yeah, you're sure to.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
See one of our faces.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
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Guess what you get. And also, really briefly, I'm gonna

(04:44):
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Thanks in advanced for that. I think I covered all

(05:06):
the business. Now we do, you guys, We've got the
conference coming up. Gosh, I'm not I always say this.
I don't want to wish the summer way for me.
It just started basically because summer starts officially for me,
like June with the weather. But you guys, June July, oh, gosh,

(05:27):
July fourth is this weekend? You guys, June's ready?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Go Yeah, yeah, that's terrible, not really.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Like, well, no, you guys, Well, well, Missouri is probably
hotter than me. Texas is always hot. I don't get
hot till June, and I like the heat. I like
to go to weather. I like being outdoors really around
my house. And yeah, then September rolls. We got the
conference nineteenth and twentieth. Of course, the Detroit Lions are
going to training camp under July. I'm looking forward to

(05:58):
my football. I'm looking to come back as repeating as
champion of my Fantasy Football Championship. I won my fourth
title less fall. Yes, I did.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I did so poorly last year.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Thank you Shelley Montgomery for that awesome super chat.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
How much Keith Keith says, come on fall time? Tired
of the heat. I'm already tired of it too. But
we've had like one hundred, like one hundred and something
degree index is like it feels like one hundred and
ten and stuff here. So I'm over summer. Yeah, I'm
never for summer. Yeah, I don't care for it.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Well, Monica, Yeah, I mean I get it. I mean
I love it because I get three good months did June, July. Now,
I will tell you this. By right around August fifteenth,
I am summered out because August is terrible with the
humidity and everything. Football is getting started up. So for

(07:02):
a god that loves summer, I try to start it
jump started in May because in May we'll get some
eighty degree days, but it's still nice and cool, right,
But that doesn't happen too often. June and July are great.
August and you can take August and get rid of it.
In my opinion, me too, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
The worst month in Texas it is. And September always
pricks me because where I grew up, it started to
cool off in September.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Right.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Northern California at the coastal regions are never terribly hot
that you get Inland a little bit and it gets warm,
but in September at least it does start to Like
mid September it starts to cool off. I get excited
here in Texas thinking September it's gonna it doesn't cool off.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
I think cool off till darn near Halloween. Yeah, Missouri
can go either way.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
So when you say cools off day, you to Scott. Yay, Scott,
thanks to Shelley and Scott for your awesome super chance.
We just start to show. So yeah, I was gonna
ask you Monica, Halloween it starts to cool off. Now
what is cool?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Like I need a sweater going out at night, like,
oh real Halloween. Sometimes like the kid's got to bundle up. Yeah,
because it gets into the fifties and if you're you're
coming out of a scream in hot summer, like and
you know it's you know, eighty degrees at night and
then all of a sudden, it's like sixty degrees. That
feels awfully cold all of a sudden. Yeah, And sometimes

(08:38):
it does get into the fifties, like Halloween night.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
We've had snow on Halloween before.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, so I'm just saying this conference, we oh really quick.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Also, thanks really quickly. Thanks you also to missed your castrow.
He's been a pirate for thirteen months. I'm sorry, go
like christ.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, so we'll have to like watch the weather because
it might be short weather, it might be hoodie weather.
I don't know. Yeah, I'll keep you all posted.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
It's probably gonna be kind of warm because even though
summer is officially done August fifteenth, I'm done with it September.
You guys, we have eighty degree days sometimes in September, Teas,
I mean we.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Have two, you know. But my ideal for us that
weekend will be like low seventies in the evenings and
like the low sixties. That'd be perfect for us.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, that'd be nice.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
That'd be great refreshing manifesting. I'm putting it out there,
and no rain.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
It would be a refreshing change from the I'm sure
still one hundred degree weather in Texas.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So, Yeah, So when I bring my clothes down and
I travel very lately, I have to make a mix
of uh fall weather fall gear and maybe a pair
of shorts.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
I'll let you know, yep, dressed in layers. Yeah, likes
to tell layers.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, I hear that. You always take off your clothes layers.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
I don't like the heat. You can only take off
so much and you're still uncomfortable, right.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Oh yeah, No, I mean I gotta tell you. Once
mid July hits here, even the last couple of days,
you can just be. You can just be sitting pool
side with your with your bathing suit on, and you
can go sit in the shade, literally in the shade
and still drip sweat. In my state and it's now,
that's not I'm sure it's not different. It's the same

(10:44):
for you guys.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
My windows are sweating right now with your air running
and my air is running, and yeah, like we had
a storm roll through. I don't know what it did
with the temperature out there, but my windows are.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Sweating, so I have something cool to It's kind of
not related to anything paranormal, but with our conferences. So
last year, I've been sitting on three conferences in my life,
I think, and then this will be my fourth. And
this is kind of funny because last year I think

(11:20):
we were in Alabama, right, Krista and I was selling
my books and stuff, and Kristen and Brandy came up
to my table and all I had on my table
was you know whatever, six foot table. It was a
wood table. I didn't even have a cloth on it.

(11:40):
I had nothing to market anything. And they're like, man,
you gotta step up your game. This is terrible. So
now the girls when they go to conferences, they even
think of me because they put this out on their
table even when I'm out there. It's a little six

(12:02):
by six thing me and they always they bring it
along they travel and so they put this on my table. Here,
put something there, you know, and you can't see you know,
you can see it when you come up to the
I mean, I'm like, well, thanks, guys, that's sweet. And
they I say, you want a badge? No, just keep it.

(12:24):
So thanks, So.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Bring us back with you in September.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Well I might not have to. And that's the reason
I bring this up because I said, yeah, I got
to get off my ass and come up with something.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Let me know, if you don't get a tablecloth, I'll
go buy you one.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I still need a tablecloth. I still need. But I
designed something. I designed to banner you guys. You might
have not seen it, or if you did, you didn't
say nothing. So I put this together. I'm getting I'm
shopping prices on it right now though, so I'm gonna
show everybody this is why I made. You know me,

(13:01):
I have Okay, Now here's the banner I made. And
I got to figure out how to put the thing
up because I think it would be six foot by
four by six, but here it is.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
I think it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
That's wonderful, very colorful.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
You will that's eye popping. When I it will be
back to my table, my vendor table, Randy says, you're
really the ugly guy the right hand corn and put
his picture in place of it. And then and then,
uh you know, of course, our buddy Jason says, well,
he wants people to come to his table and not

(13:35):
be scared away. I know, yeah, I like you. I yeah,
I'm miss waiting for some pricing. It should be vinyl.
I want to I want to Vinyl one. And I
got to just buy the the stand or whatever it does,
put it back of the table.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
You know that picture that sketchy you reminds me of
like a mash up between hul Cogan and like Randy Savage.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, well, I've been told people said they I kind
of looked at it like Randy Savage and who's the
other one? I forget there's another wrestler. I said, okay, cool, Yeah,
I think you're wrestling too. I think it's kind of
you know. Yeah, I like it, so so that's cool.
So I'll be doing that for the for the conflict.

(14:25):
But I've got to say something. I got some bad
news to start to show with. And I hate this
and another famous show y'all. Yeah, official court document jury summons. Yay.
I got a call June July seventeenth, see if I'm scheduled.

(14:47):
But here's the thing, because I don't like doing these things.
I was on one. I got even voted to be
the leader, which was a nightmare. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
You believe in dog Man.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well I'll listen. Though, I had to fill out a questionnaire.
I'm like, oh goodie, I'm going to make myself look
like an idiot. Some of the questions were do you work?
I said no, Do you drive? I said no? Do

(15:26):
you have relatives and law enforcement? I said yes. See
have you been convicted of any crimes? I said not
that I'm aware of, you know, And yeah, so I
try to look like, you know, uh, less than proper

(15:51):
human being. So we'll see what happens. So probably it.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
You should have wrote, ps, Bigfoot is real.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, I was going. When they said are you employed,
I said, yeah, I'm a YouTuber. I talk here in normal.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
I talk about the reptilians that are taking over governments.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yes, you don't have to do that. I was too late.
That's a great idea I should have, you know, but
with my luck to I'll call and they'll think this
guy is trying to get out of it.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
It's true. It's true though what you do talk about,
so you can prove it.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
I can definitely prove, you know. So we'll see what happens.
If I called, I gotta go, because I guess if
you don't go, you technically.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Warrant issued.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, any.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Warrant said, that's a way to get your warrant.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
That's the way to get a warrant. Yeah, for sure.
I'll be driving around get picked up for a failure
to what do they call that? Whatever it is? What
did you do with the jury when you I forget
whatever whatever the legal term is. But anyways, yes, so
I really want to warrant out for my arrest. And
I don't know how true that is do they arrest you.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Well, if they pull you over and you have a
bench warn out, they'll take you in for them. Depending
on the cop you get, they'll take you in for
the bench war. So they're not going to come to
your house and kick your door in for missing jury duty.
But like when you go to renew your license.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Or if you have to go into a government office,
there's a good chance.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
So you're advising, is this if I.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Can, if you go into a government office, ify your attorney. Yeah,
I want to get my license renews or just.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Pay the fee, just pay the line.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Oh well, we'll see what happens. I just don't want
to do that. In the midllsone call me that you know.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I dodged it. I got summoned a week ago. Two
weeks ago. I was supposed to go in. And it's
really cool here in Grayson County because in Dallas you
have to show up and then once you're there sitting
there for hours, they tell you whether or not they
need you. But here in Grayson County, they you pre
register and then they notify you the day before saying

(18:12):
whether or not you need to show up.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Oh wow, which was I appreciated.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
The email saying, guess what, you don't have to show up,
but your name goes back in the pool, right, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah? I think I remember doing something like that years ago.
I mean a long time ago. I mean this first
time i'd be contacting jeez, A long time yeah, I
mean forever.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah. I have lived here in Grayson County for eight years,
eight years now, and this is the first summons I've
gotten in Dallas. I used to get it constantly. I
had to serve on a jury once. It's the worst
case ever, Like my first and only jury, Like what
was it on? It was an essay case against a minor.

(18:57):
I had to sit on the jury for. It was horrible.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
That's awful.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, like I say, I was the what
do you call lead guy? And that was that was
a form forman and that was three days and it's
just kind of you know, just like I think that
I don't want to talk about this. I don't want
to get into this. I think that the people on

(19:21):
the p did He trial just didn't want to sit
there past for the July weekend. That's why the verdict
came down so fast.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean, if I had to endure the assault that
was watching video evidence. That's going to be with me
for the rest of them, with the rest of the Yeah,
like what's the fourth of July weekend from having already
endured that make it right here?

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Some people probably think that way, and I think that
he's going to get off pretty light. You won't even
do no time fifteen.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
He's looking at a max of ten years.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
And I just saw something today just it's on TV
and stuff. It's this, he could probably fifteen to eighteen months. Yeah,
because he didn't get here with the big stuff. Thank you,
mister Castro. I have new pirates Curtesy of mister Castro.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, I've seen that yesterday. I'm like, and then I
read that. A maximum of ten years, but he got
off with the.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Big Yes, of course they want to be at the
White Party. I wouldn't want to be at any No. No,
I gotta tell you, nobody likes that guy because nobody
came forth on his behalf. It was all And I
don't understand that that that would be a good topic
for a show.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
If you want to know, a lot of stars I
heard moved out of the country.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah they did. There's a lot. There's a lot of people,
you'd be surprised that are bad people, bad people that.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Were on his shock that anybody running around with most
circles as a bad person, right, I agree, I'm more
shocked when they're good people, Like there's evident of them
decent human being.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
I'stand you know what, And I know you really didn't
want to get into this.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Robert a little bit about me.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I don't understand. Okay, these people these parties were awful,
Like we all know this, Like I'm sorry, but if
someone I know is having a party like that, I
want no part of it. I'm done.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
I'm awake from you.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I want nothing. Yeah, so how did all these people
I don't get that, Like, are they are all these
people bad people? Like where they kept him as a
friend or you know, was he blackmailing them?

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Or you know, a good chunk of it was he
was blackmailing I mean. And then I think a lot
of them see the power that the guy had, and
you want him in your periphery. Maybe you don't want
to be directly associated, but you don't want to be blacklisted,
and you don't want to clearly don't want to be
on the dude's bad side. So you just kind of
roll along with it on the fringe like Okay.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, I don't know. I just you know that I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
But you know, silences can implicity to me, Like, if
you know something horrible is happening and you don't say
anything about it, and you just stand by and let
it happen to pretend you don't know, you're just as
complicit in it.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yep. Absolutely. And with being a fosture care parent, I'm
a mandated reporter. So if I hear something or see something.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah, report it.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I was watching on YouTube just because I'm fascinated because
I think that did he was implicated that that'ts of
a couple other big time rappers you've all heard about
back in the day. Oh yeah, that's the alleged anyways. Yeah,
but his I was watching something on YouTube was Gene
Gene Deal, who was his former bodyguard, head of security,

(22:46):
and he was saying these things about him on this
YouTube show that I'm like, oh my gosh, the guy's
a walking monster, you know. Yeah. And yeah, you know,
in the Power, Joanne or somebody in Chef says it's
all about power. Barbara did that, It's all about power.
If you if you want to make it in Hollywood,

(23:08):
in the music industry, you do sell. A lot of
these young kids sell their.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Souls, bab Look at all the stuff that currently went
through ticket famous. That's is it worth it?

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Like? Clearly at the end of the road, your mental
health and your physical health are just tanged, and your morals, Yeah,
spiritual health has got to be in the toilet too.
I mean all of it just compromised.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
And is it worth it? Really at the end of
the day, when you're just a husk of a human being.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Right right? Fame and fortune, money isn't everything.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Yeah, not at all. I wouldn't trade it, don't.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Get me wrong. I'm not anti money, but it's not
like it's not going to make you a better person.
It does not make you happy necessarily. Might make you
more comfortable, but it doesn't necessarily make you happy. Ye. Yes,
it won't fill that hole that's in there if.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
You have one, Yeah, exactly, you know. And I do
love money too. I like the capitalist system, does it?

Speaker 3 (24:06):
You know?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
We all need It makes things easier, don't get me
here wrong.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, it makes life easy. Yeah, But to do the
things some of these people do, I could never do it.
I wouldn't. It would make me happy, m if I
did things that.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
You're morally wrong. Yeah, right, Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't
do it. You know, there's a lot of people out
there that, like you said, they sell their souls.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
You know, my piece, my inner piece, is worth so
much more than that, like because I have to live
in here twenty four to seven. Right, I've got a
mortal compass, like my peace of mind.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
That's got absolutely I agree with you guys who gree
with that. Monica. I agree with Duke makes a good point.
Money isn't everything, but being broke isn't anything.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, I'm not out of time.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Money, I get it, like I love, we all love.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, I'm not going to sell my soul for what
happened at those parties.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Not doing that, Not doing that. I'm not gonna lie
and slander and do other nefarious activities to seek to
get money. Am I doing that?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah? And it's not just like the p Diddy you
know circle either. There's other stars that are shady. You know,
look at some of the religions that like scientology, like
I know, like Tom Cruise is a big part of
and they say that's awful, you know, like I I
can't remember what her name is, but the one actress
she came out, Yeah, like how she was treated awful.

(25:38):
And you know so I think for.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
That it's it's the money you put in. And I
think that Tom Cruise, I mean, I've heard stories where
Tom Cruise was just a really genuinely good person. I
think he's so far up the chain in that religion
that he he doesn't see what's happening with the peasantry,
you know, he's not aware of what's going on like
in the trenches.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, yeah, yep, I yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
No, you're right, And a lot of people just they
don't know until they get involved with Tom Cruise or whatever.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Rubbed in the.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Doctor Volta is part of that too.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Is ow many people in like a shocking number of
people in Holliday there. I don't understand that, Like why
that's a cult? Man, I was just a region based
on a science fiction book. How do you how do
you brainwash? And I guess it happens because look at
all the cults out there. You know, how do you.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Brainwash somebody who starts out saying or you think they're saying,
but there's got to be something going on.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
That insecurity they feed into. I mean it's predatory, like
cult leaders are predatory certainly in their methodologies, and is
somebody who's weak minded or has an insecurity, they'll they'll
figure that out and feed that so that the other
person becomes dependent. I mean it's sad.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
It is, it's very sadden.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I it is sad, and and again that's it's a
society we live in and it's only going to get worse,
unfortunately in my opinion. But enough of that. I did
have a story. I was sure today I was kind
of figure out something. But christ was because I figured
today's show we were just, you know, introduce my new

(27:22):
co host Monica.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
I introduced myself by jumping she yes, she was so young.
Thanks for the laugh, Monica.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah no, that was cool. I'm like, WHOA threw up
my whole spiel. My whole spiel was shot, I rebounded,
that was funny, Monica, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Like, I'm not kidding, I have dual pains up and
I thought I was clicking on the YouTube pain on the.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
You know, at least you weren't caught eating or anything
like that. Yeah, I did have that s but christ
were talking. I saw Christal a little earlier, and you
came across something you thought you'd like to talk about
a little bit. And see what everyone's take is on
is you were watching what some program some teacher, So yeah,

(28:18):
found it kind of it? What was that all about?

Speaker 3 (28:21):
It was interesting? It was actually paranormal nine to one
one is what I was watching. And it was a
guy he was e MT and he was called out
to a case for a guy having a seizure. Okay, well,
come to find out, you know, the guy wasn't really
having a seizure, that he was actually possessed. And it

(28:41):
goes back to thinking, you know, like how many people,
like even back in the day, like people who would
who might have been named as crazy, but how many
of these were really maybe actually possessed or people who
have abilities were put in you know, these mental institutions
for you know, some they really weren't sick, sick in

(29:01):
that way, you know what I'm saying. It just kind
of makes you think that, you know, yeah, because that
guy wasn't sick. He he needed a priest, not a
not a doctor, right m h. And And how many
of these cases they mimic sickness though, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
You possessed people mimic mimic sickness, you found well.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Well he was compulted. Yeah, well, and like having convulsions,
and they thought that he was epileptic having seizures. You know,
well he wasn't actually epileptic and having seizures. He was possessed.
He was trying, he was fighting, he was doing like
inter fighting.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
You know, so it made him look like he was
I think that most people would, I mean most people
that aren't into this right would look at that, and right,
they wouldn't think he was having seizures or he was
like severely mentally incapacitated in some way.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, well apparently he was from what the guy on
TV said that he was. The patient was Hispanic and
didn't speak English. However, when the demon came through to
the E M T. He spoke plain English, great English.
So yeah, I just I just thought it was interesting

(30:22):
and just got me thinking, like, how many interesting?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I think these cases all interesting? Wasn't the one the one?
What was that? And oh what was saying Rose Emily
Rose Rose? Was that a mental case issue? Was she
really taken over by the devil?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
I personally believe she was possessed. I believe that it
started started, you know, I mean just little things, if
I remember correctly, like you know, she would stop eating
and you know, things like that, and just got worse
and worse, progressively worse. And they thought it was like
a mental you know, something mental going on. You know,

(31:04):
maybe like you know, with her not eating. Maybe they
thought she was anorexic or you know, something like that.
And and but I personally believe that she really was possessed.
That's my that's w yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I mean, isn't she the case where the priests were
like the right of exorcism requires like a lot, like
really it's stringent, as you know, so there's like fasting
and everything involved. And I don't know that she wasn't
Was she not eating voluntarily or were they not allowing
her to eat as part of a fasting ritual.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I think in the beginning, you know, she had quit eating,
so she was losing weight. This is when before they
realized that she was possessed. So so you know, maybe
she they thought she was anorexic and had you know,
an eating disorder.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Isn't that the case where the priest was charged with
her death. Yeah, yeah, because yeah, writes of exors are brutal.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
I talk about this all the time just because I'm
scared of that. The topic really not that I'm scared.
I just like I've said many times, I believe that
goes on. I believe that demons can take over a
soul or a body, right, And I gotta tell you
I'm a firmst believer today in that. Because I've said

(32:23):
this many times. I hate to always plug this, but
the Art Bell had like a ten part up, a
ten series with Father Melichi Martin. If anybody's into this
type of thing. He was a Roman Catholic priest who
spent his entire life, you know, excising demons. And you're right, Monica,

(32:44):
there's a lot of things you have to go through.
I couldn't believe how much that you in the Catholic
Church had to get approved and it would take sometimes
years these cases to get approved. Yet this person that's
really possessed is withering away to almost death and.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
They may not get approved.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, because they'll send the priests that they don't just
automatically call the church and they show up with holy
water in a Bible like they do. Mental health evaluations
on the individuals. They want to make sure that it's
truly something spiritual and not something physical that's wrong.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Or mental mhm.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
So there's a lot to it, you.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Know, there's a lot to it. And in those extreme
cases where yes, it's actually happening, sometimes if the wait
so long by time they get to the subject at hand,
you know, they might be already too far gone, right.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. And the local priest is doing
what he can to keep it under control. But it's
not like they're specifically trained priests to deal with exorcisms.
It's not every like the priest in your your communion
every Sunday morning isn't necessarily the one who would be
doing the property, not the one.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Who'd be doing Yeah, well, I got the one.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Like if there's an exorcist here in Saint Louis, he
don't do the ones here in Saint Louis, Like he
might travel to Texas to do those ones. You know,
they don't keep them in the same area.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
And really briefly on that, this father Melachai, he did
a lot overseas in different countries, peruge, you know, and
just went in and did it. This guy's all experience
as a younger man. And then even then he moved
and set up shopping New York City in Manhattan, believe
it or not, where his office was. And then he

(34:42):
went on on the R. Bell Show and say, look,
when I got these cases, he kind of started going
outside of the church and not talking to his peers
and just did them anyways, just because he knew that
if he waited for all the red tape that again
the person might be yeah, yeah, not that they're not

(35:05):
worth saving. They could be already.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Gone right, too far gone to bring back. Yep.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
And that's the thing with exorcism too, you know, like
like Emily Rose, you know she passed away, you know,
very dangerous thing to do.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
It is, and I'm wondering too, if you don't know
what you're doing with the performing exorcism, you're going to
actually kill quote unquote the host the body. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah, I mean, if you don't know what you're doing
in any type of like demonic type case for taking,
and you know you're putting yourself and others at risk
for sure. Yeah, I know. I know. The very first
case that I didn't realize was a demonic case, but
it really was. I had no business being there none.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
What was that about.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I've told you about it before. It was the guy
that lost his boys and he was doing EVPs and
thinking it was his kids, and he actually opened the
door to a demonic entity.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Mm oh boy.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
It was sad. I get that. I get wanting to
talk to the kids, but man, you got.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
To be yep.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, he was just grieving so bad, you know, and
opened the doors and and uh. He also had a
thirteen year old daughter at home and she was being
touched and appropriately by the entity. And I asked the girl,
I said, said, did your brothers do this in life?
And she said no. I was like, it's not your brothers,
you know, because he had everybody, the mom, the sister,

(36:30):
the girl, everybody believe in that. It was the boys
and voice. And that's the thing, you know, that the
demonic they'll they'll, they'll they.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Find a way in, they find your weakness. Yeah, and
his boys was his grief, which you know, any parent
would be grieving in that situation. It's easy. I get it.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
It was just a sad, sad case.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
I really was.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
I had no business being there. I was in way
over my head and it was you know, gosh, it's
probably been fifteen years ago with that one, but have
your business being there.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Well, kind of goes with the territory you live. You'll learn,
you move on, and now you know what to do differently.
I guess it's really the lesson you probably learned on that.
So Monica, you can maybe as a little more crackers
and cheese if you like in the meantime, because I'm
gonna tell a little story here which doesn't take a
little bit of time, not lots, but it's kind of weird.

(37:28):
I think I think it has to do with voodoo.
I think I'm not one hundred percent sure though.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
That can also open up the door to demonic possession.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, and this takes place in Louisiana. Yeah, automatically, I think, whoa,
you know what's going on here? And so this guy,
how should I start? This guy says, this is early
of two thousand, early summer of two thousand and one.

(37:59):
And this guy, he says, his name is Ron, and
he says his brother's name is Steve. And they were
hiking in the Bayous of Louisiana. And he told me
he's not gonna good to get on and say his
exact location, you know, and he says his name isn't
his real name, you know, the whole song and dance

(38:20):
that I typically get with people that just want to
tell a story to me. Sure, he says that if
the people of this particular location have been spooked for decades,
and he says in Rob, I'm a member of this community.
And he goes on and say that he was thirty
two years old, and he says he was waiting to

(38:42):
send me this email. He didn't know if he wanted
to or should, but he said, go ahead and post
it or tell it if you want to. He says,
today's now fifty three years old. And he says again
it's the first time he's written about this or communicated
his studying buddy, So he happened to come across the channel.

(39:04):
He he's a subscriber to all of us. In fact,
he goes, yeah, I think I think he feels comfortable
on this our platform, so I'm like cool things. So anyway,
he goes on to tell me that he goes with
his brother Steve, and they taken their swamp boat deep
into the bayou looking to do some gator hunting, which

(39:27):
is again is very popular, as we all know Donal Louisiana,
the Bayous. He said he had a very loud boat.
It was very you know, it was not it was
They kept it up the best they could, but it
was so it was super loud, and it was very distractive.
And they said they always had to shut it down
when they got close to their hunting are because they

(39:49):
would scare off the gators. So what they would do
is they would shut it down and they would drift
for a good thirty forty minutes when they got into
their hunting area. And he says, in the area that
they drifted into, they heard stories about this location for years,

(40:10):
that many of the locals deemed it as being taboo,
and that many strange hauntings had played the area. And
he says, Rob many a person I spoke with, had
come back shaken and confused and just kind of not
within their self right. And they and they couldn't speak

(40:37):
a lot. They were uttered, like gibberished. It's like their
mind was kind of discombobulated. So during this little expedition
he went to the local man I believe his name
was Jasper, and Jasper and he told this Jasper where
he had planned to travel in this part of the

(40:59):
Taboo part of Louisiana Bayou. He goes, rather, Jasper guy
emphatically urged me not to go to this spot, he said, Rob.
He implored me not to go here any spot. But there,
he says. And this guy Ron says, now he's really

(41:23):
intrigued though. He's heard about the local legend of the
Taboo area, and he kind of was one of the
reasons why he kind of wanted to go here. And
this good old old man Jasper got his juice is flowing.
I gotta go. So they embark on this little hunting
trip looking for gator in the Taboo area. Okay, so

(41:46):
he says, he gets there about five point thirty in
the morning. Again, the very loud boat he's got whatever
shuts it down, starts drifting around here. So he says
he's drifting about the swampy waterways for about an hour
and occasionally that him and his brother Steve would pull

(42:08):
out a paddle to keep the boat up on a
straight navigation because they shut down the engines. And so
they're doing this all by hand now, and so they're
outside of the tree line and they're looking into the
tree line from the bayou, and all of a sudden,
he says, Rob, the bayou got incredibly silence. Now again,

(42:34):
we've all heard the stories about the woods becoming incredibly silent,
right the forest, you know, yeah, Rob, it was so silent.
You could not hear anything. You could not hear anything
in the swamp, anything back in the woods. Not a
bird dripping, nothing, not a sound to be heard. But

(43:00):
he got chills, runs up, runs up his spine. He says, man,
this is so odd. He's thinking. He goes it was
a very warm day. But during the warm day, he
and his brother they both catch this chill. You're very cold,
and he says, this never happens in a swamp. We're
always profusely sweating. So he says this was different. He

(43:28):
goes on and say he was again he was cold,
and he says, it was so cold that my perspiration
felt like ice cue dripping down my back. Looks at
his brother Steve. And his brother Steve, you guys is shaking,
shaking from the cold. Now again, it's Louisiana. It's ninety degrees.

(43:53):
It's human. He's got ice icicles dripping down his back.
His brother is a fridge shaky. He pleaded with his brother, Hey, man,
let's get out of here. It's not right. Let's just
turn him back. And then Steve says to Erhime Man,
he goes, Okay, we're gonna turn around. But he says, look,

(44:14):
there's something lurking from the boggy shoreline. I can see
something in the shore line that looks very unnatural in
the woods. He thought maybe he was seeing something. He's
very cold, maybe he's getting delusional. He doesn't know, but
you know, he didn't feel that this was right. So

(44:35):
he says, you know what, tells his brother, Yeah, this
isn't right. Yeah, you're cold, We're both cold. I'm gonna
fire up the boat. I'm gonna get the hell out
of here. So upont attempting to start up this vessel
that they're on. The vessel wouldn't turn over, doesn't start,
They're drifting, they're cold. They see some eerie image in

(44:57):
the in the background the shoreline, and the boat won't stop.
And then through this peril whatever's going on here, they
hear this sinister, witch like laugh mocking them. Come from
the shoreline from where they saw this kind of weird

(45:20):
doesn't know what it is, but looked weird in the shoreline,
the sinister witch like, you know, again a laughter. So
Steve Ron, They're like, oh my gosh. They're panicking and
they're trying to keep starting this boat and it's not
starting up, and this shrilling laughter that's mocking them really,

(45:42):
and their mind, that's what they're thinking, is getting louder,
and it's getting closer and closer to their yet their yacht,
their vessel, right, it won't turn over, it won't stop again.
They both looked at the edge of the swamp and
tried to find the source of this this laughter. Now
they're like, hey man, we can't go nowhere, so we

(46:03):
better open our eyes and ears and see what's going
on out in front of us at the shore line.
Then they see suddenly a figure of what appeared to
be a man. But now this man he's telling me,
it kind of took on the shape of a giant dog,
he says, but Rob, or even a wolf. But Rob,

(46:24):
there's no wolves in this probably swamp. And he goes
especially with no dog, because this thing was standing about
five and a half four foot it's all on his
high legs. He says. This creature was like jet black
with high pointed ears and a snout much longer than
any dog he's ever seen in his life. And it's

(46:45):
definitely longer than any wolf. But wolf he already you know,
possibly a dog, yeah, a wolf? No, not whatsoever. Right,
So now this image, just whatever he thinks he's seeing,
is starting to proceed and walk parallel to the shoreline
on the two legs, and this thing appears to be
carrying something underneath one of the arms, he says, Rob

(47:11):
At this point, I can't clearly make out what it is.
What I can see, he says. Then this beast, this
creature or whatever it disappeared back into the swamp, back
into the edge of the swamp, and it kind of
got out of sight. So Ron and Steve they both
go back. They're like, wow, what was this. They were

(47:32):
trying to process this, what they're seeing, what their vision is,
and they go back and try to start at the boat,
keeping their eyes on the shore line. Then all of
a sudden, out of the blue, they still can't start
at the boat, what appears to be the dead carcass
of an alligator was flung from inside the tree line,

(47:56):
not landing like not less than three or four feet
right e ractally smack dab in front of their boat.
The gator's jaws, he says, Rob is snapped. It's like
you know, you ever see you know, King Kong, you
know the movies, basically both sides of the out It
was like boom busted open, right, and he says, the bowels,

(48:20):
the bowels of this thing were we're just hanging out,
not eight upon and they were. He was just gutted
and all the bowels, the intestines are hanging out from
the belly side horrifyingly. Man, the brothers are like, you know,
beside themselves, and all of a sudden, to make matters worse,

(48:40):
that horrifying mocking witch like lefter starts emanating from the
tree line, starts off again. Then all of a sudden
everything went silent again again. These guys, for like the

(49:02):
fifteenth time, I've probably said it ten times, ready to
go back to try to start their boat up. The
boat starts up without haste, immediately after the final witch
laughter and seeing this alligator thrown at them, the boat
starts right up. He goes, Rob, I do not know
what this was to this day, but for the first

(49:26):
time I felt evil, and he went back to old
Man Jasper, who warned them about not going there. And
old Man Jasper, he says, has nodded his head and said,
I told you boys, that's evil and asked some nasty voodoo.
Glad you made it back. I thought that was pretty

(49:48):
pretty cool. Now what is it? I don't know, But
what do you guys think about that? I see Mica
always likes she always always in deep thought.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I think, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
I was just going to say, I'm thinking there's so
many different elements to that, you know that, Like it's
hard to decipher what exactly it could be.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
It could be more it's hard to say because it's
I mean, it could be like some serious food issues.
Should I mean, it could be somebody conjuring right, right,
And if they're conjuring something out of like like out
of the ethereal plane or whatever you want to call it, like,
it's going to require a lot of energy to do that,

(50:32):
which typically makes the area cold. It would potentially like
jack up the electrical starter on the boat, right, the
starter switch wouldn't work, so, you know, and who's to say,
like he saw this werewolf looking creature, right or dog?
Man or whatever you want to call it, looking creature

(50:53):
that she could have been manifest in that to freak
them out, you know, to chase them away from the
area that that she was in. And the cackling isn't
necessarily if this was voodoo, like the practitioner, because we
don't know what a dog man laugh sounds like. You know,
a lot of people say they sound like hyenas or
they look like hyenas, like the one I saw had
that hyena hump on its back. It doesn't have that.

(51:17):
We have that like high pitched like hyena cackli laugh,
you know. So, I mean, it's certainly a possibility that
it was like pretty strong practitioner. If they're they're conjuring
like that. Yeah, it sounds like you.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Need to stay out of that area.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
It sounds like, you know, I'm thinking that there was
some serious voodoo going on. I don't think that it
was a case of a dog man or anything like that.
I think that perhaps this this again assume it's let's
say it's a witch or a witch doctor. Maybe, I

(51:57):
don't know, they cast that image, like you said, manifest
is something that they saw which really wasn't there. I
think maybe that does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
It could be a manner, yeah, I mean yeah, I
do think I think something was conjured for sure. That
would explain the cold, the sudden cold, the sudden cold, yeah,
and the starter not working. You know, who knows what
it was chicondured. I mean, I don't think it was
like like a flesh and blood dog like it always here.

(52:30):
Something that was pulled in for sure. It took that shape,
and it's likely just you know, to scare people off.
I think if they wanted to hurt you that they
had a lot of opportunity. That gator is scary. But
they also did they say how big the gator because
gaters come this size all that.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Well, of course, you know, well I guess big enough
to know where it got boom. You know you did
mention that gator. I mean it's still you know, five,
I mean yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
That's yeah, that's a decent size, you know, and obviously
that takes a lot of force and to dibowel later
as well, because they're height as tough as we all know.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah. No, they make up boots down there in Texas. Yeah, yeah,
snake skimmed boots. Some might have to get me a
up here. I don't know I am, but I got
to tell you though, the thing they're really I mean,
is as scary as seeing this, this creature in the
woods and the creepy, witchy laughter mocking them, and of

(53:33):
course the number one the boat not started, would freak
the hell out of me, right when you're going through
this and seeing something and hearing this odds sounds, and
of course in the back of their minds, you know
that old man Jasper told them about the stories about Yeah,
many people don't go there because there's it's it's not right,
so that's got to be playing on their mind. And
then you, guys, I got to tell you though, the

(53:56):
thing that would freak me out the most, and it's
not and it's the least every part of the story.
Ninety plus degrees one hundred degrees in Louisiana. You're in
the Bayou, is bugs, it's humid, it's hot, you're sweating
or you know what. All if you're a dude.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
You can sweat them off. As a girl too.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Well yeah, well, well we all have well, we all
have a little you do have a but were at
least we're profuse seeing out of our never mind. But
what I'm saying is they're an ice cold and to
be shivering that would be to me the scariest of all.

(54:37):
I don't know if you guys agree, but that just
doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
That's the automatic get out of the area, the complete spiren. Yeah,
instant cold, like instant cold, time to book it like
it ain't nothing good about to happen.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
I can tell you right right, absolutely, yeah it.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I know that Chris. You you know, study a little
bit on demonology and stuff, and even in your investigations
into paranormal. Now, I'm probably gonna be wrong when I
say this. That's what I'm asking you. Is it always
when you feel something cold in the air, or all

(55:22):
of a sudden you go from a warm room to
a cold room, or whether or in a house or
in the field, the woods, out on the water, whatever,
is that always a sign of something there's a different
energy being involved with this, something that may not be
no pleasant, No.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
It could you could just have trashed in the house
or you know, something like that. You know you want
to look around for, you know, a reasonable explanation before
you just jump to paranormal. But yes, it can, but
not always.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Yeah, if you're in the middle of the woods and
experience that, there's no reasonable explanation.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
No, that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
And also just the opposite too. Some people, you know,
claim of extreme heat too, you know, so not.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Oh okay, yeah, I never heard that before.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Yeah, I've never experienced the heat side of things myself.
You know, I've been in a room where you know,
it gets cold, the temperature drops, you know, things like that,
But I never experienced the heat.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean I haven't. I mean,
I've seen plenty of ghosts. I saw the ghosts of
that about the ghosts my childhood goes. I've seen these
shadow for people.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Person, do you remember a temperature change or anything?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I was about to say, I never remembered. In fact,
if you guys recall when that that paranormal person came
to me in the ex wife's house. Yeah, but I
didn't know she's gonna be there. But she and I
had that and I remember, as I always tell the
story distinctly, is when she was in that room where

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all the little artifacts were. I was standing in there
with the ex wife and this woman and she got cold.
Now I didn't feel anything. I didn't from every room
that she walked through every room and we got that room.
She says, this is cold. She got a draft. She
felt a draft and got cold. And I'm like, what
are you talking about. I feel no different, my wife

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no different at the time, right.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
When we do like a private case, like literally, we'll
turn off the air conditioning so there's no you know,
you don't get any false positive. So you know, I
guess it just depends on the circumstances. But yeah, if
we're in a house and there's no air running and
you do get you know, a cold breeze or something,
and yeah, you might want to, you know, look, investigate

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a little bit.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
More sure, and like if she's the only one experiencing it,
but she's the only sensitive person in the room, that
makes sense, true, yep, you know, because she's going to
feel like she's going to feel it on her physical plane. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Yeah, And you know Monica has a point there, you know,
just because you know, there's plenty of times when I
went to haunted locations and you know, not everybody feels
the same thing. You know, pay attention to your body.
You know, some people feel like it's a spider web
you're walking through or you know, it might be an

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itch or whatever. Just pay attention to how your body feels.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
And is that weird too? How certain people it doesn't matter.
Let's say you're in the woods, maybe you're in a house.
I don't know. I find it always weird though, that
people's perceptions of what they see is different. The three
of us could be in a haunted forest. I'm just
throwing that out there. And I see what I think

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is a spirit of a person floating around. Monicas can
see you know, her dog man from the past, and
Christa you could see an alien. Isn't that weird? How
three people can perceive things differently. I'm wondering if that's

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something that is none of the three. But what we're
stunning across is putting that projection into our minds.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I think that's entirely possible. Yeah, let you see, it
presents to you like it wants to or your big fear.
I've heard that before too, like, yeah, presents as what
you're afraid of, Like something that would feed off of
fear is going to present it something that it knows.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
So there's a house and Union, Missouri, and it's called
the Fear House. It was on several TV shows and
there's been books wrote about it, but it was a
true demonic case as well, and it played off of
people's fears. And the one guy that lived in there
was a single dad and his fear was not being
able to get to his children. One of his children's
fears had a fear of spiders, another one had a

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fear of clowns, and I don't remember what the third
one had a fear of, but they would see it
would torment each family member by their fear, and it
ultimately at the end, it had their children, his children
locked in their bedroom and they he could open the
door to get in, or they couldn't open it up
to get out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
So so that's very true what you said, Monica. You know,
like right here and you know, forty five minutes away
from me it happened.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
It's called the Union Screaming House. It's awful house.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yep, The Union's Screaming House definitely sounds creepy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
I actually did a lie from there, not inside it,
but outside it, and the house is uh yeah, it's
it's been interesting. It's it's it's been a rental house
for many years because nobody never stays in it. And
when I was filming it, somebody, hey, what are you doing.
I'm like, I go, no, in the parking lot across
the road from it. You know, but it's just such

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a well known house, you know that has bad stuff happened,
so yeah, crazy like supposedly like someone was hung from
the tree outside and battle years ago around the area.
The whole street is actually haunted, like several people have
committed suicide on that street, and just it's just bad bad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Did you hear the story recently? I think it was recently.
It's recent to me about the the woman and I
thought she was in Missouri. I could be wrong, but
her kids were out hiking and they came across the
head hanging from the noose and the tree. No unlived

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themselves and had been there for so long that their
body had of course, you know, withered, been fallen, but
the only thing left was like, oh I was on
the news.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Yeah, Like can.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
You imagine like just taking just like taking a hike
and you're like, what.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
The yeah, like what you run into? Is it real?
You'd have to look to see if it's like maybe
a prop or something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Or my initial would be like somebody's Halloween decoration, right,
me too, if you're in the middle of the woods.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Oh. I gotta tell you the creepy story that I
don't like to talk about too often is uh seeing
not humans. But I told you guys this when I
was younger, you know, when I was driving our bikes
to the trails back by the creek where we saw
four skin kiddies strung up from the back. Yeah, and

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that was not even paranormal. That was a sick person
which ended up being the guy that ended up being
a guy that killed his grandma.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
There you go, Yeah, yeah, that's that's awful.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Did they get that hanging though? Wasn't there a movie
which I happened to watch where that was part of
the It was part of the grounds over there where
the people would always see four people. I don't know
if they're men, women, or children, but there's humans hanging
from the trees. Was that in one of those movies?
It's alleged to be true.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
It's in a lot of movies.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Is that just something Hollywood falls back on it because
it's creepy people? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Yeah, I mean it's creepy. And it's not to say
that you wouldn't experience that. I mean, the land holds energy, right,
and I wouldn't put it past something like that exactly
like that happening in history, and it's just pushing that
energy back out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I think back in the day, like you know, back
in the cowboy days where they would just take matters
into their own hands and they would take someone out
and hang them, you know, like you don't know, but
it could be your big oak tree, you know from
years ago in your backyard that would you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Always look at oak trees and think, oh, the hanging tree.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
They're old, you know, they live a long time, so
it ye trees like that very well could be, you know,
and that, like Monca said, they hold energy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Yeah, speaking of energy and attachments, I've got to run
this by both of you because I do not think
I told you to this for sure, not Monica, maybe Krista.
But you guys all remember the story I did about
my my niece way way way back when where she

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was talking into the closet and it was that little
Indian apparition where her whole family got wiped out. Yeah,
I didn't tell you that Monica, and we also I
saw this ghost. I thought it was my niece and it
was a little Indian girl.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
I vaguely remember that. I don't remember the part about
your niece singing it in the closet.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, I know she was speaks to us. Her name
was Jenny until they lived in was a brand new
house in the brand new subdivision, and the the entire stuff. Well, well,
here's the thing about the subdivision. My brother did research
because I saw the ghost my niece for sure. My
brother and sister and my mom seen the same ghost,
thinking it was Lauren, my niece, right, because she'd always

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peek in. I would spend the night out there in
the guest room and the door would open and it
looked like my niece the shadow, and I say, oh,
come to youngle Robbie. You know, I'll tell you a story.
What's what's up. She'd always would run away and slam
the door. But when I would go down the hallway,
she was always neatly tucked away in her bed, and
there was not there was no way five year old

(01:05:37):
kid could do that, right, it'd be it sound asleep
and tucked in like her mom tucked her in. So
everyone's seen this, and then she went on to tell
her mom and dad later that it was her friend Jenny,
who does not like the white man because they massacred
her family. And my brother did some investigation on this property,
and this property, in this entire subdivision was built on

(01:05:58):
an Indian ancient burial burial mound where there was a
massacre that allegedly happened way way back when. Okay, that's
the information he got. So they moved because they kept
getting these hauntings and they were getting kind of I'm
not going to use the word scared, because there was

(01:06:18):
always an innocent little but they would not know it
was the daughter sometimes at night, right, I mean, they
knew now they had a ghost, but they didn't like that,
you know, it was in the white Yeah, so let's
move out. And a few years later, my brother ran
into one of the neighbors. He goes, me, a neighbor,

(01:06:39):
a old neighbor. This is Joe Blow Remember me, I
was your neighbor. You moved out pretty quickly after not
living there for no more like a year, not even
a year. He goes yeah, He goes, yeah, I you know,
it just wasn't for me. He goes, oh, oh, your
house was haunted. The guy says to my brother, he goes, yeah,
I wasn't going to bring that up because kind of

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you know who talks about that. It goes, oh, yeah,
mine's haunted too, man, I moved out. The whole area
is haunted. That and even brought it to my brother
about people did research that this was a place that
something happened back in the day involving cowboys and indians,
you know, boom massacrep right. So, so anyway, so that's

(01:07:22):
kind of that, that's just nots the bost of that story.
I seen it blah blah blah and so, and that
happened way back a long time ago. I mean, she
was five years old and I was today, she's twenty eight.
She just turned twenty eight, so a long time ago,
five years ago. I'm in my bedroom about five six
years ago. I know, I've never told this to anybody.

(01:07:45):
I'm in my bedroom and now my knees now is
in their twenties, and I'm sleeping and I and I normally,
for whatever the reason, you guys, I never shut my
bedroom door. I keep it open, I close it, and
then I'm laying the bed and yes, it's the summertime,

(01:08:06):
and I have the air conditioning on. And then my
bedroom door shut. It just slams shut. I'm like, and
I was in a sleep and it's sut so loud,
and I woke up. I'm like, what the hell? And
I saw the door shut, and I get up out
of bed. I look around, went in the hell, Yes,
the air, the central air is running, but I never

(01:08:28):
experienced that because I kind of blow it off. So
I kind of go open the door and I open it.
I'm like wow, and I'm a little freaked out. I
go hello, Hello, you know, going to nobody go back
to bed. I'm sitting in bed. I'm kind of still
a little startled. And then my bedroom door starts slowly

(01:08:50):
closing and it shuts, you guys. And now I'm like,
what in that world? Man? And now now, you guys,
you know, I've already seen ghosts. I've already seen shadow people.
This is a different I'm you know, in my forties
or whatever. I said. I've got something going on here,

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I'm thinking. Then the door opens, much like the door
would open when I seen my niece open the door,
my alleged niece, which was not my niece, which was
the Indian ghost, would open. It kind of had that
same vibe. It kind of slowly opened, maybe this much
six eight inches. And guess what's standing there? The shadow

(01:09:32):
of my kniece, but now about two feet taller, because
she's not that much taller she was because she's five.
She's like four foot eight now, you know. And I'm like, Lauren,
like I did years ago, how the hell did you
get in the house? Do you ever? I said this,
you guys, I don't care to your ear. I get

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up and I think it's her. I do, and I
go to the door and the door shuts on me
and I opened the door. I'm freaking out. I call
my niece. Is three thirty four o'clock in the morning.
I call her. I go, are you in my house somewhere?
What the hell are you talking about? Uncle Roblem? You

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just woke me up. What are you doing? You're drinking?
I don't know. I'm sleeping. I just saw you. You
see nobody. So we're talking a little bit. And guess what,
I don't know if that apparition that I saw Lauren
follow me home, I haven't seen it again, never rap

(01:10:37):
it again. I've not seen it again, Okay, but I
gotta tell you about strange. That was strange. You guys
can't explain it. Never rap it again. But you know,
I just I just got this weird life.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
I guess I don't you know, I don't mean to
like go back. You said, you know, with your your
niece and stuff. That was sorry my sleeping and snoring,
But I don't mean to go back. And and you
said you said something about the Indian burial grounds, which
got me thinking. You know, we talked about energy being
out on the lands and stuff. And you know, I'm

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in Missouri and we have the trail of tears that
went through here. We have you know, the organ trail
that went through here, you know, through so many states,
and now there's you know, houses and subdivisions and things
like that on you know, are close to a lot
of these locations, which could be cause for a lot
of hauntings because back in the day when those trails

(01:11:34):
went through, you know, if you got sick, you know
where they going to bury you. There's going to bury
you where they're at. They're not going to take you
to the cemetery. So how many bodies are spread out,
you know for things like that that happened, you know,
just kind of got me thinking. When you talked about
like the Indian burial grounds. You know there's I think
not just Indian burial grounds. I think there's you know, yeah,

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from some of those trails along the trails absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Yeah, A burel of ground is a burrel of ground, right,
whether there is Indian of human, you know, white folk whatever, Asian.
I mean, yeah, yeah, gess some I don't know. I
just you know, I just who knows, I don't know. Yeah,
I'm just glad that it hasn't happened again. I really

(01:12:24):
don't need that. It's kind of creepy, the door getting ship,
the door getting shut on you. Oh yeah, okay, this
tough woman Monica, Yeah you could. You know, it's just weird.
You know. I don't mind it in a strange way,
but I just you know, when you think you're alone.
The biggest thing is I thought there was a home

(01:12:44):
invat Yeah, I really do. Sure you know that was
I mean it was a ghost, okay, big vial. I've
seen twenty ghosts in my life right by now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
Yeah, I just got to put this up because he
kind of made me laugh out Loud used to have
an organ drill, but now shaving as popular.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Joe Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
I seen in comment we're in the comments that he
said that he was going to come to our conference
and if you come, Joe, we'll be glad to give
you a booth spot if you'd.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
Like to come. Wow. Yeah, look at.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
A vendor table, sirvender table. That's what you meant. That's
what I meant.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
I like this diabolical Debbie, who is a recently subscriber
things Debbie, it's not your shadow that follows you, it's
me diabolical trademark. By the way, Wow, Debbie, I gotta
get with you and the girls. Maybe maybe as you
sell you might be show material.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
I must tell you, Gails that I don't think we're
going to full ninety because there's some things I needed
to do. I wanted to introduce my new co host,
Monica Rollins, and I love Christin.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Nobody knows her, really.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
I don't know. There's some new people in here. If
you knew, please debscribe the big flimashy around Monica Raws
a pair in the world end, Christopher M. Blouns and
the Blue Piano podcast. Did you guys understand that I
don't know. Yeah, I'm just having phone with Monica text.
I don't know when he'll be back. He told me,
I'm glad you got Monica because I just can't do
I'm tired and he is tired of you guys. There's

(01:14:28):
only the fourth new coast I've had on this show,
and I've shown that will be changing, uh in the fall.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
When I can, because my work was actually changed too,
So okay, yeah, I'm only going into the office on
Tuesdays and Wednesdays now. I am off. I'm working from
home on Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Okay. Because this show has changed so many different times.
I used to have guests on kind of we do
the guest thing on Tuesday, which is fine. Once in
a while, we'll have the occasional guest on here because
most people at one o'clock in the afternoon are working,
so I decided to make it more of a tell

(01:15:10):
a story or two, or or just talk about whatever
we talk about, because we all are pretty well versed
in all on something.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Those are my favorite. I love just conversation too.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
They're fun, you know, and we do similar things Saturday,
which is a little different. J Lfer has a question, Pierre.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
Excuse a comment, Yes, so I put it in there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Yes, bj Lapierre, by the way, author and illustrator, is
going to be our guest Christa next Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
So yes, she'll be joining the show to tell us
about her experiences in her walks and journey through life
in the paranormal and otherwise UFOs and things of that nature.
She's very nervous everybody, so we are no reason to
be nervous.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
She did good on Paul show.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
She was on Paul. Yeah, so I look forward to
seeing DJ. She was an author, sent me her book
not too long ago. I think it's supposed to be
a coloring book. Yes so, but but yeah, guys, gels
great show. I look forward to doing Monica. Oh my gosh,

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working with Monica and christ of course, when you pop
in the three of us, the three of us, don't
I got damn, I'm not and I don't, my god,
what happened there? Jesus, it's not even Saturday night. I

(01:16:46):
haven't even had a drink yet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
You're just so excited, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Just yes, yes, I got to get off here. No,
but thank you once and you guys, and look forward
to having you guys on the show when you can't. Christa, Yeah,
pop on in. It will just be us, US two,
US three or whomever shit chatting and doing a show.
It was great, Sho. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Yep, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Fun Yep, lots of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Thank you. I do want to thank everybody for coming
on in. Shelley Montgomery, Scotty, mister Castro, mister Castro again
for your super chants. Mister Castro, thirteen month member. You
gifted five pirates Maties, Scottie with Tambuck, Sheila with Shelley
with five bucks go Pirates. Thank you guys, appreciate that,

(01:17:36):
always appreciate it. Never expected, of course, So for Monica
and for I do this slowly after Christa, you guys
know what I'm looking for here, have a great day.

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