Brunch with Bigfoot Michigan Rob - Ep 142 - BMR n Monica! Monica's Dogman Encounter & Elementals

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yes, everybody, those tickets are going fast. You better secure
them today. I always sound redundant when I say this.
I don't want to wish to summer age us yet,
but before we know. It's going to be the nineteenth
and twentieth of September. So yes, please secure your seats

(00:22):
to this great event. Most of you all know about it.
We've got a whole bunch of things going on, from
a ghost hunt to a film screens, lots of different vendors,
a lot of products you all can purchase down there
at the event in Richmond, Missouri. It's gonna be a
great time. All of us folks on our channels will

(00:43):
all be there, of course, doing our thing. Andy. It's
can be a fun time, and this would be a
fun show. Now joining me in studio b is Monica
Rollins from our Paranormal World. She is a kind of
right now my new co host on this show. Text
hasn't gone anywhere. Our text just has got these weird
working hours. And yeah, so right now we got the

(01:06):
lovely Monica. If you haven't subscribed to Monica, she is,
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(02:16):
It just rhymes. Don't know that it makes sense, it
just rhymes. Thank you so much, and without further ado,
I'm gonna bring up, Monica. How do you, Monica.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Having a good afternoon.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's been a pretty good afternoon. I got a guy
coming between now and one o'clock and three, I'll be
getting a text. I gotta let him in the house.
He's putting in a water thing meter. Okay, everybody switching
over to digital outside the house. This is phase two
of this little project. I can't wait for it to

(02:55):
be over. Like I was telling you backstage, I had
to go to a different section of my house from
my bo is and this's where the actual component is
inside the house. But I must say I'm not in construction.
I'm not. I'm below average when it comes to being handy.
Decided to take this thing apart. I got to figure
out how to put it back together now, you know.

(03:17):
But it's easy. It's like a puzzle.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, you can just you reverse engineered it. You just
have to read.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Well, yeah I did, and I set up everything where
I know, and I even wrote down steps what goes where,
So I took pictures, so yeah, I'll have no problem.
Thank God for the phone and the camera right right,
you know? So yeah, so, uh, what's been going on
with you? Thanks of course for a stepping in here

(03:44):
as Texas. You know, got that weird schedule at work,
so so yeah, I'm glad to have you.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, thanks, No, I'm happy to be here. I love
co hosting with you. And I'm going to mission this
Saturday because I am going out to Florida.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
It seems oh you are doing that to Florida.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, they just sent me the confirmation.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Okay, So Saturday night, you guys know we do the
late show. It's typically Monica Christa Brandy sometimes texts. So
will be for sure me and Brandy this Saturday night
at eleven because I think Chris is out of town
and I think Texas every two weeks or something. I
don't know. Again, I don't know what he.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Is for a week. He's got like a four day weekend.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, he's got that going on, so he might pop
in as well. That's always fun. This Friday, I won't
be doing Storytime with Robbie. There will BMR or whatever
you want to call it, because I uh, I'm doing
an early party my brother's birthday. We're getting together about
three thirty in the afternoon tomorrow, so I'll be postponing
that Friday night show, which is like around six usually

(04:45):
because I do those maybe twice a month. So yes,
so that won't be happening. I'm a party folk in
this summer, for sure. I'm a party I'm a party folk.
You know. Well, all my parties are in the summer.
Fourth and why there was a big four day party.
It's two different people's houses, which I have interesting story

(05:06):
that I got out of somebody we can talk about.
Kind of relates today's show to today's show. And then yeah,
then you know, at the end of the summer, I
just chill, you know, I kind of don't do much
until my until Halloween kicks off my new excitement because
I love Halloween. That's one of my favorite holidays. And

(05:27):
then Thanksgiving I love football, is already you know mid stream,
and then Christmas is a big party scene around my
house and my family. So so yeah, there's a good
sold five months where I'm just like, you know, having
a good time. Sure, why not? Why not? So yeah,

(05:50):
that's it's everybody again. As I repeated earlier, starting hey,
you know those tickets, It's come a fast, Monica before
you know it.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know, I was just thinking about that, like I
have to get the press releases together, and I have
to do. It's coming up fast.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, it is coming up pretty fast. Before you know it, boom,
it'll be done and over with. We'll be there and
then we'll be home, you know, it'll be out memory. Yeah, right, and.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Then we'll be planning the next one if it goes well.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
If it goes well, we'll do We'll do another one
if it goes well. And right now all indications are
technically looking pretty strong. So we'll see. We will just see.
So yes, So for today, Monica, I there's a couple
of things I wanted to talk about a couple of
different stories, you know. And and Monica, you you really,

(06:46):
I mean you've been doing the cryptic thing, the paranormal world,
well paranormal stuff for a while. And I know one
of the things that you do talk about quite often
is you know, talking about the fae, the elementals, things
like that. And and today I was thinking, because there
is a kind of a story that I think that

(07:07):
I got some time ago. It's in one of the books.
The revolves around Bigfoot, a lost hiker in some of
these elementals, perhaps some of these fae, which I'd like
to get your thoughts and do you your experiences, your opinions, theories, whatever.

(07:29):
Do you think that when we talk about these things,
and maybe might want to tell people maybe the phase
or the elementals, right, but do you think that sometimes
they work in concert with Bigfoot in certain areas you
think they're friends of each other, full of each other,
or maybe they're both the same.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
That Okay, So you have, in my opinion, yep, the
flesh and blood Bigfoot that I think definitely exists, and
then you have the paranormal bigfoot, you know, where he's
walking in and out of trees and portals and things.
Because there's so many people that are reporting like more

(08:09):
supernatural experiences with their Bigfoot encounters, that I think that
there's two different kinds of beings going on here, and
so I would say yes to both. I would say,
in one instance, the Bigfoot is essentially one of them.

(08:30):
I think more than likely it's a type of fay
that people are seeing. And then in another where it's
just like truly corporeal and it's like flesh and blood
like like we are. It's always here, it doesn't pop
in and out of realms or whatever you want to
call it. I don't see why they wouldn't get along

(08:50):
with it. But to be fair in that that same
thought line, you know, not every fae is like cooperating
with other fay like they don't. Just because everybody's fate
doesn't mean that they all get along, right, all humans
don't get along. Not all fay would get along. So
I think it would be like a They would recognize

(09:13):
it as another fay or if it were a flesh
and blood creature, they would recognize it. The ones that
even cared to interact with it would probably recognize it
as something that's part of nature, and they would be
less maybe less aggressive towards it. Maybe maybe maybe I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Another good buddy of mine in chat y'all know, Duke
World Bigfoot Central. He says the paranormal Bigfoot and physical
Bigfoot are one and the same, and according to the Bigfoot. Now,
of course, I know the Duke has actually had experiences
with these subjects the subject matter, right, and I've kind of,

(09:56):
you know, I flip flopped in my opinion throughout the
years because I've seen one right in doing these shows
and listening to different opinions throughout the years or theories
or whatever, or experiences I'm kind of thinking that because
I'm out in like they say, you know how, which
is so I don't even like the terminology anymore because

(10:19):
you have a camp to say, that's the APOR camp.
I'm not definitely in the APOR camp, right, I think.
And there's course the people are in the WU camp,
which again another word that people throw out, that word
you know, yeah, I mean exactly, or the paranormal or.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I'd rather hear somebody say it's paranormal or it's the
weird stuff rather than woo sounds so goofy to me.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, you know, I mean it's thrown out, there's bandied about,
you know, in different circles, you know, and people, but
at least people know get the understanding when someone says
the woo, you know, at least they kind of know
what it is because it is used quite often and.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
In a derogatory manner. It's always derogatory.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, you know, everything with Bigfoot's derogatory seems like, you know,
I mean, even the beef jerkey commercials.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Well that's just poking fun at it, right, But I
mean other researchers calling something WU, they're not being kind
when they're saying that.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, I didn't look at it that way. That's you
know kind of yeah, especially what it's definitely the apor camp.
What's the woo, it's fado right.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, and it's like it's like an insult. It's like
a like a slur, like, oh, that's wu, you're WU.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
So let me ask him. Let's say that you had
a physical creature a bigfoot. You're checking out and you
clearly see it, and it's there, it's standing there, and
then all of a sudden, it's like just it just
disappears for whatever the reason. And then you'll get a
report of that same bigfoot that you might have experienced

(11:56):
is three miles up the trail and it just goes
from point A to point B in a matter of minutes.
Now I've heard the theories, like with Ron moorehead about
the quantum physics of bigfoot, where there's such it can
take this massive amount of energy and just kind of
transfer that energy and that's why they can move so quickly.

(12:19):
Now I get that they have the long gate and
they can run very fast fast, and people would think right,
especially for being the massive size that they are, and
they do it so stealthily, right, you know, And they
can they can run through a camp and you don't
even know what ran to the camp unless it wants
you to hear it, right, you know, what's your take

(12:41):
on that? With the physics part of.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
It, well, I think if they're using a great amount
of energy, right, the quantum physics of it, right, when
you expend energy, right, he's using it up and moving it,
and it moves it affects energy, affects energy, right, So
you hear it, I mean it would displays you feel it.
You hear it, you know, you'd feel it in the
in maybe heat or and there would be a displacement

(13:04):
there is what I'm trying to say. So whether you
heard it or felt it, it wouldn't be stealthy. It
wouldn't be stealthy if that was the case, in my opinion.
But then I mean, I'm I always I'm always going
to lean to the flesh and blood. So I mean, yeah,
I think that they're just moving fast, like they just
move real fast, you know, and why not there that's

(13:26):
their house. You can move pretty quick through your house
if you need to.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
In a matter of minutes. Yeah, like Flash Gordon, Yeah,
like the Flash the Daredevil and the reason I thought
would be interesting about talking about this a little bit too,
is because I bring up the elements of you know,

(13:50):
the fee and the elementals and things like that, and
because I had gotten this story. You've heard this story,
I think, but we never really discussed it or broke
it down. Some of the people that are listening might
have heard it, but we never really looked at it.
Because so I think that this particular story, I think
that you have all of those elements. I think you've

(14:12):
got the flesh and blood. I think you've got the supernatural,
the paranormal, perhaps the fay right, and perhaps portals. Even
because again I was this guy. This isn't one of
my books. I don't know if it was one or two,
but there was this this man who he went to

(14:38):
the same campsite all the time, and he was very
familiar with this campsite. He was very familiar with the trail,
very familiar with the surroundings. Again twenty years, same area,
same location. Just loved it. It was a nice stream
to go fishing, do some hunting. I mean, he just

(15:02):
loved this place. And he always went by himself, he's
telling me, And one day he was out in his campsite,
and now a river ran along the outskirts of where
he camped and you could always hear the river. Then
he could walk maybe one hundred yards and the river

(15:22):
was maybe one hundred yards away, right, and he would
follow the trail on the river and go about exploring
mother nature. So one day he's there bright early, well
it's about eight in the morning, he's telling me when
he gets up and he's following along this trail down
by the river, and he's, you know, just doing his

(15:44):
thing right. And then he had noticed in the path
I had that there was a trail that he felt
it was odd because again, as I mentioned, as many
times as he'd been through here, this was like it
was like new to him. And he's like, this is
kind of weird. So of course, you know, his instinct said,

(16:08):
check out the trail. So he goes off on this
different path, kind of veers away now from the river,
and again everything was the same, the same type of trees,
you know, the same types of wildlife, everything in abundance
around him. And then he says, Rob, it's weird because
you can always hear the river even if you're not

(16:30):
on the path of the river. It was a fast
flowing river. You could hear it, and he says, and
all of a sudden he could not hear the flow
of the river. Yeah. And so he continues on down
his path, and as he's continuing on down the path,
he notices now that this surroundings started to look odd

(16:52):
and unfamiliar. I mean, as an example, if it was
lined with oak trees all around. Just going back eye
out there, he now came across like pine trees or
redwoods or whatever. But everything looked different, and he says
it was kind of eerie. And also he made mention

(17:12):
that these trees were very robust. I mean they had barrels,
you know at the bottoms that was like three four
five foot wide. And I do think this takes place
somewhere in California, because I know the redwood tree is
that correct? Is extremely That isn't a big tree. That's
very big tree.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah. Some of them are larger around than they are tall.
And some of them are taller larger around.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And this man was specific to tell me that there
wasn't they weren't they just they just they just got
fatter and it was never quite like that. There are
maybe a three foot round tree at the base, but
these days, he says, like double and it's part of
in this area. So he's getting weird. Is I've never
experienced this? And as he's walked fucking he gets further

(18:01):
further down this trail and something told him to maybe
turn back, because he really said, for the first time
in twenty years, I began to get a little scared.
I was out of sorts, he says, like my mind
was like discombobulated, and he was just getting his thoughts
were fuzzy. And now he says, rob, I realize, now

(18:22):
I can't hear a sound in the woods, and I
don't know where I'm at. He pulls out his compass.
He had a handheld compass, and he goes in and
the dial was spinning around, spinning around. Wasn't getting any
gauge or anything on the area, where what direction he
was headed. And so this man he sits down. He

(18:42):
just sits down, tries to collect his thoughts. And now
these tall trees are kind of shading out the sun,
so it's kind of, you know, dusky looking, although I
think this is in the middle of the day of time.
And as he looks into the forest into part of
the tree line. In the back of him, he says
he sees his humanoid object figure, which was it was

(19:05):
a shadow outlined, and he says it had a conical head.
He says, it was extremely tall, but you couldn't make
out any physical features, right, it was just kind of massive,
and it was maybe fifty to fifty yards away, but
so big he could see it. And then he got

(19:26):
up and started walking towards it. And this shadow of
this humanoid as he's described me, started panning it down
the tree line, and all of a sudden he kind
of dissipated or disappeared into the woods. So as this
man is a little bit frazzled, you know, doesn't know

(19:46):
quite what it is. I don't know. He doesn't mention
it's a bigfoot or anythings. I don't even think this
man was a researcher. He was just a camper, an
avid outdoorsman. And and he says, Rob and this feeling
I came over with this feeling that that was maybe
to follow with that shadow of that human I was going,

(20:08):
maybe that was going to help him into the wood,
help him get out of being lost. Sure, but now
as he was walking, as I made mention those big trees,
you know, the big robust barrels at the bases of
these trees. They all started taking on images of faces

(20:30):
in the trees, and he says they literally kind of
expanded out from the tree like in a three D
and he could see the faces. He says they were
He says, well, yeah, he says, now they weren't. Some
of them weren't. And they says they were very They
weren't pretty, okay, I mean they weren't. They were kind

(20:50):
of creepy. I mean, you got a picture. When I
go back, I'm thinking about some movie I saw about
the trees that were walking around. I forget what movie
that was. That's what I was envisioning in my head,
he says. But they had these faces popping out, And
he says, in all these faces, you go see it
on one tree, and then he kind of would go
to his right. Then a different face would pop out,

(21:11):
maybe twenty feet later on another tree, a different type
of face. A third tree, different face. And now and
now he's really like, does not know what's happening. He stops,
he tries to collect his thoughts, and then something he
says spoke to him in his mind, he says, and says,

(21:31):
follow the faces. Follow the faces, okay, And then as
he gets up, he says, you know, Rob, I'm totally lost,
and maybe this is a good thing despite being scared.
So he goes up to continue on down this tree line,
and now not only now telepathically, but he heard in

(21:52):
the distance follow the faces. So he's following the faces.
He says, there's six or seven of them coming out
of the trees, and then a lot closer, another big
humanoid shadow appears right with the conical head. Can't see it.
It's dark, it's a shadow, it's massive. Sees it and

(22:14):
it disappears again. So this guy continues on. He continues
on to follow it, and then it disappears. Then all
of a sudden, the faces kind of disappeared. So he
continued down this path. And he continues down the path,
he hears the river in the background. Now still the

(22:40):
environment that he was in was still foreign to him. Right,
He continues, continues to walk and hears the roar of
the river a little louder and louder. Then all of
a sudden, as he's walking down this path, it became
more familiar. The trees that he was used to the environment,

(23:02):
everything else, the wildlife came back to his senses where
he now felt comfortable where he was, and he continues
to walk, and there, all of a sudden, he sees
the river's edge in the background, watched several yards further
and took him right back to his campsite. He says

(23:22):
to me, I don't know what that was. And he says,
so we were kind of brainstorming this did he walked into
a portal? And this story I got like two years ago. Okay,
so I wasn't as a depth with like the fay
and the elementals as today I know a lot more
about it. And I really suggested maybe he slipped in

(23:44):
some sort of dimension, different dimension or maybe a portal,
sure because we hear about portals that pop up in
the woods all the time, right, not just an outer
space or a lot of times we're in the woods.
And so I'm like, so that's what was my suggestion.
But now looking back at this, it sounds more maybe

(24:04):
fair elemental to me. And that shadowy figure that appeared
to maybe be a bigfoot, maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't.
I mean, as I told you that to you what's
what's your thought process on that, what's going through your mind?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I mean, I agree with you. It sounds like he
slipped through a fake portal or like you see the
doorways that arches like in the woods, that people supposedly
walk through, and then they're suddenly not where they were
a minute ago. It's completely different surrounding. It's like a place,
just like you your story, you know, the place that

(24:40):
they're very familiar with, suddenly becomes very you know, unfamiliar.
They are lost, and then one way or another they're
guided back out of it. Right. There's a lot of
stories like that. So it sounds to me like, yeah,
this person walked through a portal inadvertently and and he

(25:00):
was led back by something something, you know, and you know,
the big pointy headed thing, the conical head shadow. You know.
Fay aren't all small. They're not. They're not all little
tiny things with wings. They're not, like a good majority

(25:20):
of them don't have wings. They come in all shapes
and sizes. And I mean, maybe it was a bigfoot,
or maybe it was you know, something else that kind
of resembles it. He just said he didn't get a
good look at it. It was just large and had kind.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Of a it kind of shadow was a shadowy image,
you know, kind of like this image if you see
a the upper left hand, or says believe you know,
kind of just darkness, right, yeah, you know. And he
says it was a didn't make no physical features, but
he was humanoid instructing stature, right, and he remembers that
it was like a pointy heade, you know, or conical right. So,

(26:01):
so I didn't know. So I was just thinking, I said,
maybe that was a spirit of a bigfoot maybe. And
I was thinking that maybe the elementals of the forest
were the faces that came out to help this guy maybe,
and maybe it was like a bigfoot kind of in
communication with.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
The Yeah, I mean it. And if they're showing them
out because they're not always nice, like or spirits are
not always nice, like they're scary if they think you're
there to harm it, or if they recognize you as
somebody who's repeatedly done some had some negative effect on
the forest around you, like they'll recognize it.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Yeah, maybe that's the reasoning because this guy is I
I got the feeling this guy was just a hiker,
a camper, a fisherman, you know, didn't even really you know,
as he's telling me the story, he'd even really say
Bigfoot or this and that. But he asked me because
he knows the channel. There's one of my thoughts on it,
and it's just drob. I you know, I have no

(27:03):
really no interest. I just came across your channel because
it's an outdoorsy type channel and that's what he does, right,
And then I just offered the best opinion I could
a couple of years ago, years back, and put in
the book and stuff. And since I know that you
you know, we hear about these things all the time,
and I just wondered because you made mentioned because most
of the things that I hear when you talk about

(27:24):
it or other channels or other people. You're right though,
the fay really or element maybe not elementals is different.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Meals are I mean the thing with the face, I mean,
it's across the board. It can be positive or negative,
like that's that's everything.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, I think so, And I think this entire subject
matters across the board, could be anything good or bad,
just like everyone throws out.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Believe, like what you throw out in the world, you're
going to have come back at you. Mm hmm, like
with a fold, like threefold ten. But it just depends.
But you know, some things are just nasty to the core.
Like some things are just negative, like just like people
is negative to the core. But I think that if

(28:14):
you go out there with like a good intention, you're
not out there to you know, cut down the forest
or you know, you're not an arson, you're out there
to start a fire. You're not just you know, leaving
your trash every I mean, if you're going out there
with some good intent and you've got you know, a
pretty good heart, that by and large that will come
back to you.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Do you think that maybe some of these elementals as
cryptive is the faith they think that maybe human beings
are At first, they just view us as bad until
they get the feeling of what our vibe is or
whatever energy we're putting out there.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Yeah, I mean, well yeah, I mean it depends. I
mean humans are a virus on this earth, that's for sure.
And I would imagine that depending on like the fay
that you cross, Like if you're the first one they
come across, and it's a positive experience, like they might
have heard stories, it might be weary, but if you're

(29:13):
a positive experience, that's going to go a long way.
And if I mean, their previous experiences are going to
lend a lot to how they treat you too, I
imagine m like just like with us, Like if you
go into a place you've had bad experiences with locals,
you're not going to have a real good feeling going
in there and encountering one.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
That's for sure. There's many a place I've been to
that I won't go back, and it's probably there and
a lot of them are popular places. But if you
have that one experience with this environment, it turned off
by it, you think, yes, it's bad. That's a good
point because it's.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Hard to get out of that mindset. I mean, maybe
they can read deeper than that. I don't know, Like
I don't know. I'm just applying like human logic to it.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Well, it is human logic because of perfect point and
a perfect example back in twenty eighteen, Okay, I have
my encounter with my bigfoot, right and mine was unpleasant
what happened to me, and then complicating things what happened
to my girlfriend at the time two months later, right,

(30:23):
So I good old BMI. I thought that it was
just a bad creature, a bad whatever it was, you know,
and I couldn't figure it out. And like I said,
for the longest time, I just did not know. Today,
I'm different with it today, I think that there It
just depends what you come across in life. For me personally, though,

(30:44):
for many years I want nothing to do with it,
you know. In fact, my first inclination was to go
back and hunt the thing down and you know, eradicated,
you know what I mean, right? And then so it
puts this out taste just like the dog man experiences. Now,
most of the ones I talk to typically now a good experience,

(31:09):
right Monica.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
My dog man experience, Now, I wouldn't call it positive.
I wouldn't call it. But in the same turn, I
mean I hear collective stories, right, So I mean you
go through a logical thought process, Right, My one experience
with something wouldn't normally make me think that every single

(31:32):
one is that.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Same way, right, I would be that either.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
But then when you hear corroborating stories where a lot
of other people have like negative experience, not necessarily the
exact same one, but negative experiences, then I start to
group all of that into a negative like entity, right,
Like I would hope for the best, but I definitely
would expect a negative encounter, just because the vast majority

(31:58):
of stories coming out are not positive stories. Well, and
like with Bigfoot, you get a mix. You get some
people that are scared, and usually they're scared by themselves.
But I mean, if we look back traditionally, they are
not viewed necessarily as like our forest friends, They're not
like the native cultures were terrified of them. They put

(32:18):
people in baskets and aid them, right, That's that's traditional
story for a lot of them, But that's not the
encounter that a lot of modern day people are having.
So that's kind of a mixed bag. So you don't
know what to expect really if you're applying a logical
thought process to that in your encounter or potential encounter,
like hope I get a nice one, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Well yeah, I mean yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Unlike with the dog Man, the vast majority of those
are negative encounters, whether or not they're intending to harm
the person and the person just happens to get away,
or they're intentionally frightening the person to elicit this fear.
Because I think that some of them feed off that fear,
and that's what they're doing. They're trying to They're feeding
off of you, just not in a direct way, right.
They're trying to get you to be afraid, and that

(33:03):
negative energy is what they're absorbing.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
It doesn't make sense. And I do agree with that
back in the way back when. Yeah, I've heard stories
that would make people fearful back in the day, and
I was never a fan of that term of friendly
for as people. I mean, it is what it is.
And again, it depends on your experience which you've encountered.
Many people have gone through life and have nothing but

(33:28):
positive things happened to them. They call them their friends,
and some people are terrified of them. I noticed a
few people in chat I don't know if you want
to do this or not, have mentioned that they hadn't
seen your heard of your dog man experience.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Oh okay, do you want me to tell the joy? Well?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, well, I mean I love it.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
I mean, you know I can give the short version
of it so much.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, yeah, why don't yeh.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
So I was I was driving one night. It was
about eleven, between eleven and eleven thirty at night. I
was going to pick my daughter up from work. And
this is inside of Dallas, by the way. I am
in Dallas proper, OK. And I'm driving down a pretty well,
normally heavily traffic road. It wasn't crazy at that time
because it's pretty late at night, and I'm going and

(34:15):
I turn left into a residential area that's pretty out like,
it's pretty affluent there. There are larger lots, about acre
sized lots, I would say. And as I'm turning down
this road, being that it's like a more affluent, they
don't have a lot of street lights. They like it
a little dark at night. So there was one street

(34:37):
light like for a ways that illuminated the area. And
it was about thirty yards in as you turn onto
this road. And as I made the turn, I hadn't
started accelerating yet. I see something off to my right
right running kind of low to the ground. I thought
it was a dog, So I'm not going to punch it,
right because a dog looked like he was going to
cross the road. So I stayed pretty slow. I'm not

(34:59):
really accelerating much. I was going. I was going really slow.
I wouldn't guess I was going like fifteen miles an hour. Maybe,
And as I'm driving, this thing is coming and then
it changes direction and starts coming towards, like towards my car,
and I start getting this sensation that's very difficult to

(35:24):
describe unless you're experiencing it. And I had never before
or since experienced anything like that. And I have the
bigfoot research for over twenty years, and I've been in
the alone in the middle of nowhere, in the dark
by myself, like sitting, you know, you get spooked by,
you know, a brush popper because you can't see right.

(35:45):
But I have never experienced this sensation before. And it
was this overwhelming just feeling of like malice, like evil,
like intent to harm, like serious INtime, like all the
all of the hair. My body stood up. And I
still think it's a dog, like a like a big
dog coming towards me, and I missed.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
It was walking, it was on four legs, it was
on all fours.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
It was loaded the ramp at first, and then as
it started getting closer, I'm having and this sensation never quit,
by the way, and I don't know what I'm like,
what is going like, I don't understand why I'm suddenly terrified,
like horrified and is the scene's getting closer, and this
all happened pretty quick. Yeah, getting closer. It starts like
kind of almost hopping, and then it starts bounding, like

(36:32):
jumping almost and as it lands next to my car,
it's only like ten or fifteen feet from my car
my passenger's window it lands in. I called it a
runner stance at first, but it's more like a superhero land,
you know, with like one arm down and one arm
or It lands like that, and it, like I want

(36:55):
to say, it started to stand up, and then it
crouched back down. It crouched back down, and it like
crane its neck out like to look into my car,
and it just followed my car with its head as
I drove by. Oh man, And I'm like and I'm
like all and at the same time all of this

(37:16):
is like going down. Outside of the car, I'm still
getting these waves of like I don't know, like negative energy.
I don't have to like evil. And I finally come
out of it and I punch it and I blew
through every single stop sign because this road dead end
into the shopping center that my daughter worked at. And

(37:40):
I just gunned it and I'm terrified. I'm afraid to
look in my rear view mirror because I am convinced
because or flight took over. I flew and I don't
normally do that. I've been in situations where things are
coming at me in the dark and I still don't run.
I ran on it, I punched it, and I'm thinking
it's going to chase my car. It's going to check.
I'm going to feel it jump on the back of
my car. And I was afraid to look in the

(38:02):
rearview mirror because I didn't want to see it coming.
And I'm thinking, holy cat, like they're going to find
my car and all the windows are going to be
blown out and there's gonna be blood everywhere. Nobody's going
to know what happened everything.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
So this is going through your mind.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Yes, as I'm like flying down the road and I finally,
you know, get to the shopping center my daughter works in,
and I turn around and park the car, so I'm
facing the road and I expect to see this thing
like running after me out of the dark, and it didn't.
My daughter eventually gets in the car, and I debated

(38:37):
going back down that road, just like I was like,
if it's still there, if somebody else sees it, then
I'm not crazy. And then I thought, you know, this
is my daughter. I'm not going to put her through that,
because I mean, it traumatized me, and I'm not going
to put her through that. So I took the long
way home and as we're pulling in, I remember that

(38:57):
night like I was. I was scared getting out of
the car. I was scared in the house. And I
remember laying there that night thinking can this thing track
me by scent? Can it? Can it figure out where?
Because it wasn't that far away, It was not that
far away from where I live. And you know, I
don't know how these things work.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Can it?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Can it? Am I gonna drive up one day and
this Thing's going to pop out of the bushes while
I'm getting out of my car? Like I was terrified
for a long time, And I used to I used
to go running at night in my neighborhood because it
was a little elevated and it was a better workout.
So I remember after maybe a month month and a half,
I was like, Okay, I've got to just start doing

(39:38):
this again. So I went out one night for a
run and I got not even I don't even know
if I got halfway through it and I had to
turn around and like Beline it like find the most
populated way back to my house. Because every time the
wind would rustle a brush or a leaf would scrape
across a concrete like, I would jump out of my skin,

(39:58):
like I was terrified.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, so it affected to you for quite a while
then after that.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
But you know what's interesting is like six months later,
I went up to Washington with I was a big
camp out with a group of us. We were up
in the Gifford Pinchot camp in at some remote horse camp.
And you know, I wasn't scared while I was out there.
I wasn't scared in the woods, but I was afraid
running through the residential neighborhood. And that's because that's where

(40:23):
my experience happened, Right, So I'm associating this fear with
the with you know, surroundings that I was in when
it took place. I wasn't afraid when I was up
in Washington. I was walking like kids. They were outhouses
we had to use, Like I had to walk like
one hundred yards out in the woods to the outhouse
in the dark. I wasn't afraid doing that. But I
was afraid taking a run through my neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
What do you think this Probably because it's in your
neighborhood and you went clear across the country to Washington State.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, but I mean the surroundings as well. Yeah, I mean,
I'm away from it. But I mean, you're rational mind
is like these things, if they're in the city, they
certainly are going to be out in the woods somewhere.
I mean, most of the encounters aren't in a city.
They're in they're in a forested.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Area, right, yep, absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
But I just I didn't have the fear that. I mean,
I don't want to see one like that again. But
you know, I I don't associate that fear with the woods,
you know, I associate it. I mean, I'm I don't
I think I'd be okay, now, I'd probably still be
a little jumpy running through the neighborhoods, but like it, Yeah,

(41:35):
it affected me for a long time, and.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
It was that the only time you've seen it. Are
you over the fear that you no longer have that
phobia that it knows where you live?

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Or it's no, no, it's yeah, no. I mean but
even I mean years later and I moved up here
to Sherman. Right, I'm in North Texas. I'm like sixty
plus miles away from where this took place. And you know,
my neighborhood has a lot more trees. I'm on the
outskirts that well, I not the outskirts. I'm on the
fringe of town. So it's not as like their houses

(42:07):
aren't right on top of each other. And I mean
every now and then at night when I get out
of the car, because my backyard is dark in the
little alley street that I park on to, you know,
walk into my backyard is dark, I think, you know, like,
who could it could be out there? It could be
hiding behind my shed over there. Like I still think
that on occasion. I still get spooked by it on occasion.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Do you think that what you saw was a physical
thing or you think it couldn't have been the wait?
How fast?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Well, I don't know. I'm like, I mean, for the
longest time, I was like, flesh and blood, flesh and blood,
flesh and blood. There's no way it's like any kind
of spiritual thing. But my friend that I told this
to eventually, because I didn't tell I told one person initially,
and she told me, I was nuts.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I missed.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
It wasn't what I thought it was because you didn't
see that, and that just incensed me so mad, and
then I just shut up for the longest time, like really,
right up until recently, I didn't tell a lot of
people that what happened, because like the one person I
initially told basically told me, oh, b s, yeah, you're
misidentified it. And I was like, you think I don't know?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
No, you know, I hate, don't you hate when that happens.
You know, when I first told some friends what I saw,
you didn't see that, rob it didn't you know, go
from it's not.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
What you thought you saw.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
And I'm like, I'm really sure, dummy, tell me mine
was a beer. I said, there ain't no bears in Cadillac,
and bears don't look human last time I checked. It
turns into a demon, demon looking thing.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Right, So anyway, I told my friend the thing and
I was like, again, so flesh and blood, flesh and blood.
But he's like, Monica, where did it go and where
did it come from? He's like, you're in the middle
of Dallas. Yeah, And that's reasonable. That's a reasonable argument.
I don't know, because this thing was big. It was big,
and I really feel like somebody would notice a werewolf

(44:17):
looking thing walking down Dallas North Polway, because I'm pretty
sure they would figure it out.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
There's a lot of creepy things in Texas.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
There are a lot of creepy things in Texas. A
lot of creepy things everywhere.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Really, you know that's yeah, you know you're at you
know what, You're right. Yeah, there's creepy things in Texas.
There's creepy things in Ohio, Michigan. I mean, probably every
state has something going on, except for maybe Hawaii. I've
never heard anything negative coming out of Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Well, we got the night Marchers in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
The night Marchers. Yeah, so the.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Night Marchers are the warriors and the chieftains that that come.
I'm trying to remember the story. I did a whole
show on it or a part of a show on it.
I can't remember if they died in battle. But they
come through like their traditional land. And if you hear
them coming, you're supposed to like lay down flat and

(45:19):
urinate on yourself to keep them because if you're not
supposed to look at them, because if you look at them,
they can snatch your soul and take it with them. Yeah,
those are the night Marchers and they who Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
So that's specific to Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah, it's very specific to Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Sorry, imagine that's in I never pictured Hawaii with the forest.
I know there's forests on Hawaii. Just picture always the ocean.
But they must be back in the city and the
towns and the the night marchers.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
No, the night Matchers come up through like traditional land,
so that's like the interior. And they might cut like
through a beach town or a coastal town, but like
they walk through their traditional lands, which would be the interior,
which if you've ever been to Hawaii, the interior, like
the interior is almost always like no development. It is wild,

(46:11):
like most of the population is on the rim the
surrounding parts. Well, you know, the beach people go there
for the beach.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
I was surprised to hear that there's a lot of
a run down, poor towns in Hawaiian I never knew that.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I didn't know there's a port towns in Hawaii. I
would like to go to port towns in Alaska, though,
m because that's where the people got chased away, the
town like took off, like they left town, like the
city was abandoned. The town was abandoned because of these
attacks that were happening up in the hills, and the
bodies of the miners were washing down the creek and

(46:49):
into the little bay, and they have these horrific injuries.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Really, now, that's not where I tame. Port Lock is
a whole different part of the life.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Oh, it is port Lock. I don't know why I
said port townshend. I was thinking of watching I'm thinking
of port Lock.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
I'm sorry, very creepy. But now, of course we all
heard about port Lock and things of that nature. And uh,
in fact, Keith uh I think it's Keith from Alaska
is coming to our conference.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Awesome.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah so yeah, he sent me a couple of port
Lock shirts. But yeah, you always hear about it. I'd
love to visit Alaska, I tell you what, though, of
all the states to go to Alaska, I think I
would probably bring a guide with me because I heard
just so many missing people turn up there. If you
don't know what you're doing or where you're.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Going, well, I mean, Alaska is a dangerous play. I
mean it's it's pretty serious. Wilderness, isn't it. I mean, yeah,
and there, I mean I can't I'm not booing around
with the grizzly bears. They can have all of it.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Well, that'd be more scary than coming across a cryptid probably.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
I don't know. I think it would be equally depending
on the cryptid. But there's a lot of cryptids up there,
like the the the Inuit, they have a lot of
you know, cryptid stories and a lot of crypti beings
in their in their traditional folklore. Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
So very interesting about Hawaii. And yes, there are poor
sections of Hawaii. There's some like I don't like using
the term inner city parts of Hawaii, much like Detroit
that I've seen. I just happen to find it on YouTube,
and it's very there are some believe or not, and
I guess and I didn't really realize that there was

(48:38):
actual I mean, there's a wood there's woodlands in there,
forests deep in there that are just nobody goes to,
very remote, very remote. And I think that every state's
kind of and I don't know what specific island it was.
We just say Hawaii generically, but there's what's six six islands? Yeah, yeah,

(49:01):
that's very interesting. You know, your dog man story is
always pretty cool, and you know it, and I always
it's odd. It's really not odd. That's will I you
know when you shared that, and I've shared a lot
of different dog man and counters where there's a lot
of them, and whether it's me or Johnny or Stevie
or anybody that has a podcast or whatever or just

(49:24):
reading books, always seems to be that dog man you
hear nine out of ten times chasing down the side
of a car, Yeah, doing forty miles an hour, looking
in and having that ability to curl that mouth up
and like smile out of the snout and just give
you that look like I can get you anytime I want.

(49:46):
You know, I think they have the thrill out of
scaring us, some.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Of them feet on that fear like that. That negative.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Because because I will be honest with you when we
talk about dog man and stuff, the only yes, many
negative stories. Absolutely. However, when it comes to actual harming
of human beings, Thank you, Mark, Thanks Mark, Monica bm

(50:15):
I encounters demonic terrifying, Yes, thank you Mark. I got
a Demonica, Yeah it is, I got a story in
a little bit. I'm a share to Mark. So, hey, Ty,
I am getting back to that what we were just saying,
Oh yeah about you know, just that look that they
can get you, and I think that they get a

(50:36):
thrill lot of scaring us. Right. But what I was
going with my okay, my point that I wanted to
bring up was of all the stories we've heard, though,
there's only been really one incident, whether people are believe
it or not, is what allegedly happened at the LBL, right, right, yeah,
because that's the only I mean, unless I'm wrong, and

(50:57):
I know there's some fake ones out there, won't get
into that. That's only one though that I've heard, where
there's the loss of human life.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
I've heard other stories. I can't say how credible that.
I mean, they're all alleged, right, yes, yeah, And I
don't know, you know, if these are legitimate stories or
if this person was just pulling stories out of their backside.
You know, it's hard to say, but I've heard stories
of a particular area in the Northeast where they were haunting,

(51:31):
like haunting a neighborhood and people would have to like
seriously bar their doors at night because people would wake
up with these things in the house, you know, and
there were people missing from that. Okay, and again, like
it sounds far fetched. But I don't discredit anybody's story.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
I don't either, I don't. This is no judgment zone.
I don't care ridiculous A story of sounds If you
want to come on show or whatever, I will. Yeah, hey, listen,
we don't walk in these people's shoes. In fact, that's
what I say in both the books. I've never walked.
We haven't walked through these people's shoes. They should not
be judged, right, And because we don't know fact from fiction, right,
I mean we don't. I mean we're not, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
But so I didn't experience what they did, I'm not
going to tell you.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
I mean, yeah, well that my.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Friend telling me that I didn't see what I saw,
that I love. That made me so mad, and that
really like made me take a good hard look at
how I feel about other people's stories.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
To be honest, that's a great that's awesome. That's why
I that's why I welcome people's stories, because I I'm
much like you. I'm getting mad right now. My best
friend and I met since seventh grade. I told that story.
He says, you're full of it. You didn't see that.

(52:50):
I go, dude, as like the first person. You're the
first person I told this to in like months, this
after Cindy died, I tell nobody nothing. And then I
wanted to beat him up. I wanted to take a
baseball bat and like break his leg because I'm telling
you I'm not a violent guy. But he did not
believe me. And that was all the crap I went through.

(53:12):
That's why I learned that day, said, man, I will
trust you, know, tell.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Your story, and I won't judge you for it, is what.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I say, Yeah, exactly, because you know that's the thing,
because hey, we just don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
It was not a liar. I mean, why would she.
I mean, she won't call me a liar. She just said,
you don't know what you're looking. It's equally insulting to you.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Well yeah, I mean he said he didn't call me
a liar either. He said, you didn't see that. There's
just no way this thing did what it did.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
And then just to be dismissed, like.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Well, yeah, that's that's the biggest cutdown to somebody. He
dismissed it. I'd rather argue with you for an hour.
If I want to piss someone off, I just dismissed him.
I look, okay, whatever, look the other way. While boy,
you know that gets people.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Man that works.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
It gets that rouse my fathers when you dismiss me.
But I want to tell this story. I did this before.
It's one of my favoritesness around the subject and Mark
Zeehammer met Demonic talk Tomonic and you might have heard
this Monica. I don't know. I mean I but I
love it that I think has a lot of parallels

(54:24):
to a lot of things we talked about. But it's
very fascinating. It kind of reminds me of a Stephen
king On. It really does. And again the guy that
I'm not dismissing because I talked to this guy, he
sent me several emails. We talked once on the phone
and lost communication with this guy. Uh. You guys can
judge for yourself on the story. But it was very creepy.

(54:49):
And I this email this guy sent me month. It
started out. I remember it says I've lost my faith
in the li Lord. I'm like, oh boy, one of
these rob I am a former preacher man. That's what

(55:09):
he said. Preacher man Okay, I'm like, well, I'm he
got my interest. You know, I'm gonna read through this.
He took the time and it was like dreams of
It was like reams of text email. Right, So I'm
reading on through this and this guy says, yes, he's
a preacher from the South, the Deep South. In his

(55:34):
last place where he set up shop to speak to
the people was in a very rundown, poor section of Mississippi.
And he says he's been drawn to these types of
towns throughout his preachings. He kind of reminded me of

(55:57):
a guy that was a transient, like from a while,
remember those preacher men that would go from town to
to traveling preacher. This is what I'm picturing in my mind,
is I'm reading this, and yeah, so he says he's
been in seven eight different towns in his life preaching
the good word. Now you're gonna find out. I don't

(56:19):
know what the hell his good word was. Okay, because
he's quite an odd character. And so as I'm reading along,
he said, so he finally in this southern Mississippi. So
he sets up shop. You got to place talk to
the local share for the or whoever run the town.
You know, if he could do preachings at one of

(56:41):
the local I don't even know if you would to
call it a church, but just a place where people
could gather and he could do his speaking to the masses.
So he's relatively new and he starts doing his thing right,
he started getting quite the following, and members of his

(57:04):
following was a young couple, very young in the early twenties.
They're about a year new to the town. And they
came up after one of his sermons, this young couple,
and they said, mister preacher man, I don't know what
his name is. I'm gonna save mister preacher man. You

(57:25):
I need we need you to come to our house,
you know, and bless her house, you know, or something.
And the preacher man goes on and say, well, well,
what on earth is going on? Why would you need
me to come to your house? And he says, we
think it's evil. We think there's inherent something inherently evil

(57:45):
going on, okay, And then he goes on to ask,
well what's going on there? And they went on and say,
every night, out of our bedroom window there would be
this image of a dog werewolf type creature that is

(58:05):
white with high pointed ears and red red eyes, and
it kind of looks like a Doberman pincher, but all white,
and it would stare in at us almost each and
every night. He goes, well, maybe it's just somebody's dog.
You don't understand. This is not a dog. It is

(58:28):
very creepy looking. It's his whole head kind of takes
up the window in the bedroom. Well, I don't know
about all that. It comes just continue to come to
the sermons, kind of dismisses them a little bit, right,
And a couple of weeks later they keep coming back

(58:50):
and they said that, mister preacher Man, like the third
time we're getting this. This is reoccurring. And they told
the preacher Man that now, for whatever the reason, that
they are being telepathically sent these images in their minds
that they're envisioning that is sent on from this creepy

(59:12):
dog steering through their window, about disfiguredments, just people that
were like burns, and just all these very scary images.
It has been starting to scare them. And he says, and
it was almost like this creature, whatever it is, was
mocking them. So please, mister preacher Man, we need you

(59:33):
to come here, we have the evil. So this preacher
man he kind of now, he says, you know, I
can't help you. I don't believe you. I think that
EGO should seek a mental care person in town, which,
of course, Monica, as I made mention, he's in a

(59:55):
town that is poor, they're probably know mental health person
in there. But the thing that got me mad about
this guy is how he just didn't help these people.
So this young couple would keep coming back to the
sermons every week, pleading with this preacher to help him please,
and then every time they showed up Monica. Throughout this

(01:00:17):
entire this went on for several months, this young couple
would starting to look tired. They were starting to look haggard, unhealthy.
He says, they must have dropped twenty or thirty pounds.
And I replied back in his email, I remember this,
Why the hell didn't you help him? I mean, you're
going on, but I said, I don't get where you're

(01:00:38):
going with this, and I didn't finish reading because I
just had a mid mid read. Remind this guy right
continues on doesn't no response, of course, continues on and
on and on, So this young couple doesn't show up
for a couple of weeks. Then all of a sudden,

(01:01:01):
on one of the evenings or whatever, this was daytime
evening when he did his sermon, there was this entire
huge congregation, almost double in size when we typically had
a a sermon. The young couple's not there, and there
was this comitsing about, and then as a preacher man
shows up, they kind of they're looking at him, and

(01:01:23):
they kind of and they had these questions and they said, hey,
we understand that that young couple that moved in here
several months ago reached out to you for help, and
you didn't help them because you thought they were crazy
about something, whatever it was, and they didn't know the
full story, but they had kind of through the grapevine

(01:01:44):
her they're talking about some evil dog or whatever, white
doberman pincher. I guess, right, Like I said, he goes, yeah,
well they haven't been here in a couple of weeks. Well, yeah,
well they won't be for a while. If that all
because the young man, the young couple, the young man

(01:02:05):
blew away his wife, Oh my god, and then took
his life, Oh my god. And then they were outraised
this preacher man to offer them no help offered, no help.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
As they should be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Of course. So here's the thing where it gets really
kind of creepy and kind of Stephen kingish. Not that
that wasn't creepy enough. They decide a few days later
they're gonna have a town hall meeting and they want
to bring this preacher man in and they want to
hear his side of the story and what they told him.
So preacher man shows up to this town hall gathering

(01:02:44):
and su as he gets in there, almost immediately, this
preacher man drops to his knees and he starts crying,
you know, I lost my faith. I didn't do my job,
just you know, putting on a show. How he's now
recognizes that he's was not help me at all. Right,
so just now yes, so to me show, But I

(01:03:09):
mean it's just to me. He's trying to get out
of it because now the eyre of this town is
all over this guy. So so the preacher man, you know,
he's telling me that all of a sudden, he feels
on his right shoulder. There's a heavy hand it's put
on his shoulder. It's a sheriff. And again there's a
big congregation at this town hall gathering. He says, mister

(01:03:33):
preacher man, just you can get off your knees. I
have something to tell you. Preacher man looks bad to sheriff.
You know that image of that white Doberman pincher that
showed up at their bedroom window. I've experienced that too.

(01:03:53):
H Another couple comes forward. They have to two or
three people. They all come forward that they'd seen this thing,
and many of them had said it also would put
impressions in their mind about the disfigurements, burnt bodies, this,
that and the other. So, Monica, this was a little

(01:04:16):
secret that was kept in this tight knit community that
they didn't tell the preacher man about. And they knew
this was happening to this young couple, which of all
the congregation, of all these people, they were finally the
first ones to do something about it, which was unfortunately
unlive themselves. Well, the guy did away with his YOUM so,

(01:04:43):
and A preachers said, why don't you all come to me?
I just thought they were had mental issues. And now
the whole town now they're kind of remorseful. They're no excuse,
but now this whole town, Monica, they're kind of coming
to real as why were they are keeping this a
tight secret amongst a certain few. Probably should have told

(01:05:06):
the preacher. Now I have about thousand percent with you
that preacher did not. He should not be a preacher.
He should not You should not help. He should be
just gone. He should be do something else, you know,
don't be preaching. You can't help people that come for help.
That's your job. He failed, right, I'm yeah. I don't
care about his sobs and his tears, his crocodile tears.

(01:05:27):
He failed. The community failed too, though, because that should
have been I don't know, I don't get it, but
a very creepy. So they have this town hall and
this dad and the other Ereka, you know, it ends.
Creature Man. Next morning wakes up. Now the preacher man
once again, Monica. He's leaving. He's going to another town.

(01:05:52):
He's moving on to his towntown or whatever, whatever the
hell he's been throughout the Deep South. But he wakes up,
there's any knock at his door. He gets up, goes
and opens his front door, and his things already packed.
He says, he's ready bolt town. But he opens the door.
So he opens the door, sees nothing, and he looks

(01:06:14):
to the right and there's this big like kind of
lunch basket. And in this lunch basket he sees it's
covered in a tonnel or a blanket. In a blanket,
he says, the blanket, the blanket's kind of moving, Monica.
What's inside here? Goes over, opens a blanket and inside

(01:06:36):
the basket covered by this blanket is a pup of
the white dopermine pincher. Picks up this basket, his blanket whatever,
He takes it to the Sheriff's office, drops it on
the door, splits town, never to return. And then Nice

(01:07:00):
followed up with an email to this guy, you gotta
feel me in what's going on with that? I don't
get that at all. Of course, that was my last communication, mhm.
And I just don't understand that, Monica up until the
end the whole story. So he tells me this on

(01:07:21):
is it? Was that just an overall evil crrupt town.
I mean, I've ever seen a white Doberman pincuer in
my life. I don't know if it even exists. To
be honest with you, I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Don't know everything. I mean, I guess it can.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
I mean, there's I never knew there's a white German
shepherd till my buddy bought one. Pretty they're pretty blue
eyes and everything. But is that a wild wild account?

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
That is crazy? I mean, you know, it's I don't
know what to think of that, Like it can go
in so many directions.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Oh man, I tell you what, if I would make.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
It, I mean I would say I would have initially
said that this white Doberman pincher thing it was like
some sort of demonic attachment to the town itself. Yes, right,
But then that doesn't account for a puppy showing up
at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Dad, I don't get it didn't make sense. The entire
story made a lot of sense to me personally, Like
you're talking about until the end, what's the significance where
the town folk is the town folks in on this
are they all evil themselves?

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
It's a small town. I mean, I'm having a hard
time wrap in my mind around just how small of
the town is this, Like every town to be incorporated
has to have certain things, and I'm just like, just
sounds like ten families in a patch of land.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
You know, it's kind of what, you know what it
reminds me of this when I'm thinking again, when I
brought up the Wild Wild West. We've all seen the movies.
It seems like, Okay, you're on your horse back from
the dusty trail and on the left you got a
strip of wood in you know, a ranch or not

(01:09:10):
ranch wood, the houses, hotels of saloon, you got the whorehouse.
Out of the right, you know, you got you know,
it's two blocks along. That's what I'm picturing this town is,
you know with the little yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
I mean I think yeah, like like see when when
they're in the middle of the woods, are like, oh,
I was like in the South. I think of it's
hard to describe. I think of like if you've ever
seen the movie Big Fish, there's like this little town
in the middle of the woods, and that's what I think.
There's like fifty people total in this place, and it's

(01:09:43):
like literally you come out of the woods into this town,
this town, and it's just these people live in and
then you go through the other side and enter the woods.
I mean, that's the kind of thing I think of
when I hear this, because I just can't fathom like
what normal people would consider a small town. You less
than a thousand people, that's still a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Thousand people's a lot of people. Small town. Yeah, I
guess people is a lot of people, you know, I mean, okay,
I yeah, So you know that got.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Like the whole town being corrupt potentially. I mean I
think the same people would have split by.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Then, but they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
But they didn't, and and you know, I mean just
analyzing like this town, like why are people there? Like
why do you not leave? Like like were you born
there and you're connected there? You don't have any means
to leave, Like I can't understand, like there's no connection
to the outside world.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Oh well yeah. It kind of reminds me of one
of those weirds again when I said Stephen King rowing
one of those weird Stephen King, you know, Stephen King,
Like there's a bunch of movies. I'm sure you see
where it's just a town. You know, you got that.
What's that town?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
The island town? Oh you know what I'm talking about?
The stand was it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Or No form of the century was on an island?

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Yeah? Well yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
It's a small community and it's isolated from the rest.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
I get that, But but this Mississippi you can go,
you go Tuscaloosa.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
He's got some podunk towns like, yes, it does.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I've been through them, you know. And then you've got
hell in Michigan. I've looked up an Upper Peninsula, even
northern Michigan. Man, we've got you can go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
State sheriff not come like this. The small the town
is small enough, like sheriffs like take over the area.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Like the sheriff is like the governor, you know, the preacher,
the store clerk, you know, the accountant, the mayor. There,
clerk he's the only guy who has any money because
they all give him his tax money. Guy reminds me something.
Don't like that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Just yeah, that's what I think of. So, I mean,
it's just hard for me to fathom that, like the
whole town would be corrupt. Now do I think maybe
it might? Majority of the town could be in on something.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Sure, well, that's the thing if you knew if if
there was thirty that's the thing I wish we knew
if there were thirty people in a town one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
People congregation was in on something. Yeah, so the people
in the town that were part of this congregation were
likely the ones that were affected, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Think, right, I think that probably makes the most sense.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
And then it makes the town seem smaller because talking
about the town. But it's really just yeah, like fifty
sixty families that are part of this congregation or more,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
And that could be. And of course I said, what city,
what town is this? Of course you know I did that,
And of course you know, like, well, I'm not going
to tell you what thats okay? Well yeah, but hey,
but again I'll tell you the Pearson story because number
one interesting, Yeah, it's interesting. I think things like that

(01:13:01):
do go on, though I mean, maybe not that story exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
I agree that this man, if the story is true,
should absolutely no longer be.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
A preacher, should not be a preacher man. He should
not at all all for help to anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
And the excuse, I'm so sorry, I thought that they
had mental issues.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Doesn't your job, as a your job, you seek them help,
Go try to find a preacher, you know, mental help. No. Yeah,
so that guy failed the couple, we feel herself. He's
just a failure as a human Problemly, I guess sounds

(01:13:37):
like it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
I don't know how much I believe that story to
be fair, like all of that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Oh, yeah, I know, right, you know, there's there's a
lot of loose ends in there. But I was find
of fascinating because you just what's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
The name of the town again, what's the name of
that town?

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Yeah? Yeah, you know you could have given you could
have given me any of city. Anything. He could have
made something I.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Would dug into, like local news. I'm pretty sure you
know a two person like. I can't say it. I
don't want you to get demonetized, but you know what
you're saying, like that would be in the news somewhere,
especially in a small town.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Now easy de frog, preacher man and hit a buncle
artist sounds like it. Yeah, But I will tell you
this though, Monica, I know that there are towns. We've
all got them, even in Texas for sure. But there
are towns that nobody goes to. A northern Michigan that
is a population of two hundred and if you killed somebody,

(01:14:38):
it would not even make news, and then you couldn't
find the body. I mean, there are towns like that.
There are They would never make the news, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Well, not major news, but if you look in the
local news, it would be in some there's there's rural
news outlets like It's not always the big city reporting
out like if something happened here we're I live, maybe
like Dallas News wouldn't pick it up, but I promise
you the local newspaper would have something about it in there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Okay. And and also though as all follow up, I
did kind of I geez, when I was reading this,
I did go on the internet and I just started
researching Mississippi small towns, big towns, you know, and there's
plenty of small towns like this. I think, so there's

(01:15:27):
a I mean, there's some that you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Would I would you would need a name there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
We wouldn't just no, of course you would. And I
just wanted to see and and even looking for you know,
murder suis I should say there, Well, but you know,
I'm talking about that having that couple type that in
Mississippi and see how many pull up and there's there's
a lot, pull up, a lot, do pull up. Look
at any town, but there's so many reams of them

(01:15:51):
to go through that you take you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Yeah, see when people just drop a bomb like that
and then don't provide any follow up, I think that
you're just looking for looking at story, get at your story,
get out there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Yeah, your story, you know. But but I thought it
was interesting. I think that. But I think that going
back to the start of this show, though, things like
this do happ into real folks. Whether this guy's real
or made believe, I don't know. We don't know. We
don't judge them. Hey, it is what it is. But
going back to the supernatural aspect, the aspect of these

(01:16:28):
these creatures, I think that they there's always that scary,
horrific element where they want to scary, where they know
they can eat you at any given time. You know
what I mean? Would we tie it all up? It's entertaining,
good story, I believe in it's a good story. Hello, Andy,
how much stock I put in it? Yeah? You know, Hey,

(01:16:48):
I'm not going to hang my head on it. It
made my book, by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
It's a good story. Yeah, but it's a good story.
It's a good entertaining story. Like whether or not it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
About it makes you think out of the box and
think different things because you can apply because I will
tell you this, you can apply fiction to reality. Sure,
Like we always talk about folklore, well folklore stories from folklore,
they came from somewhere. There's I believe myself personally that
there's always an element of truth in these old folk tales.

(01:17:22):
Would you agree or now?

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Yes? I believe that folklore and legends started somewhere and
there is a minimum rice grain of truth in there somehow.

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think this was a pretty cool show. I'm glad that
Monica is my new co host for a while here. Yeah,

(01:18:12):
well Texas at the housing, stay out of pocket for
a while. Yeah, he's living at crampy hours. Yeah, you've
got terrible work hours now, but hey everyone not everybody
can work from home, right, which is an awesome thing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
So you normally have a show Thursday night, Why don't
we tell you, I know you might not have one
tonight because you got someone on or whatever. You know,
everybody Monica that's in the chat about your show and
when it's on, uh, and so they can tune in
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Our para normal world is.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
I like the Jackass when I said that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
It's on Thursday. Typically it's on Thursday nights at ten Central.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
So you love eight Like how Monica is not on? Well,
if it's eleven, my time, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
So oh yeah, and it's I just have fun. I
have a co host, Joe Breezy. He's on with me.
Usually we're not doing one tonight because he's on vacation.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Yeah, I do pop in once, so I've become a
popular on pop in.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Occasionally we'll get other Misfit Toy. Yeah, Misfit Toys will
pop on occasionally and entertain us. But I mean I
have guests every now and then, but mostly it's just
Joe and I, you know, going on about whatever topic
pops into our head that week. And it's just like

(01:19:51):
like the conversations that Rob and I have. Well, Rob's
definitely like got a more organized show schedule. I'm just
I'll tell you what I want to talk and we'll
talk about that until we run that topic through, and
then we'll just go on and on. And we talk
a lot about horror movies too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Yeah, you do. You do a lot of interesting things,
kind of like how we do Saturday Night we have
it's kind of we do the bizarre news, then we
go wherever. I mean, everyone knows Satay Night's shows are
more of a fun show. We talk weird stuff and
then we had a whole discussion about food, right, I mean,
we talk about everything too on that show. One thing
I want to do is the anniversary of Jaws. And

(01:20:30):
there's a lot of great uncut video that they're producing
on YouTube, behind the scenes scenes that could make it
because it would have been an OUR rating in some
cases an X rating because Jaws is my favorite. I'm
not gonna say any movie of mine is number one,
but it's definitely top three for me. Jaws, the original Jaws.

(01:20:51):
I love that. That was such a terrifying movie. And
you only saw the Beast the Shark for I think
a total of two minutes thirty eight seconds stop movie.
It's just the way it was built up. Yeah, I mean, yeah, fantastic. No,
mister Castro, not tonight for Monica, but thank you mister

(01:21:13):
Castro again. Wants to go to everybody else for coming
and hit that like button subscribe if you knew, And
I think that about wraps it up. Monica. I wonder,
let's see, No, that's nothing Saturday night. I'll be on
not this Friday, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
I'll miss you Saturday. I'm gonna miss Donnie Chose show too,
but anybody who wants to listen to him, and I
think it's Doctor Dean Bertram. I think they're going to
be talking horror movies this Saturday on Donnie Chose.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Oh, the Doctor Dean is joining Dinnie so ian Donny's
having a normal show with a normal game. Yeah everything,
and jeez.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
And I was going to be a part of it,
but last minute half to flap Florida, so I won't
be on that. But if you guys are interested and
checking out Donnie talk about horror movies, then you can
stick around and check out BMR.

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