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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Well, hello everybody, and broadcasting live from southern Michigan and
all around the globe. This, of course is a Bigfoot
Mischian Robins show is Brunch with Bigfoot in Michigan. Rob,
How is everybody today? Joining me in studio b from
Texas my co host Monica Rollins. Text will be back

(00:28):
whenever text gets back. Thanks to Monica. You can find
Monica on YouTube our apparent in normal world. Go check
out Monica and please subscribe. My special guest joining us
as well tonight is a good friend of mine and
all of us across the board, mister Brent Thomas from
the Paranormal Portal. You can find Brent also on YouTube

(00:51):
Paranormal Portal and you can find him on all podcasting platforms.
He's a busy guy. Thanks to everybody for coming on in.
If you are new here again, please subscribe to once
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Podcast Paranoral Paul. I think I hit everybody. I think

(01:15):
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(01:58):
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(02:20):
great and of course the light button leaving a comment
here is awesome. And that little thing on your phone
with the hearts and one that also helps promote the
shows out, So yeah, onyce you do that. Of course,
we have our conference coming up before we get into
any of that, I'm gonna bring up Miss Robins. Hello, Monica,
how are you great to see us? The usual things

(02:45):
are coming on in. I know that you're balancing working
from home with the show. I appreciate that, of course,
happy to be here.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You know how much I enjoy co hosting with you.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Yes, I guess they don't enjoy when I pop in
that your show. I was just, you know, for why
did you see that? The other day? You and Joe
were doing a show on Irish vampires and I just
was in the chat room and you had said, or
Joe said, hey, pop on an if you're not doing nothing.
I did, and so left the comment boy be and

(03:17):
my just totally totally dismantled. I'm like, and I'm like, really,
the thing.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Is so rarely do I read comments? I learned a
long long Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I don't read them either, because I don't most people
you know, like me. But boy, I deraeled this show.
I mean, come on, what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Well, I just that's one persons out of millions opinions.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I know it is, and I don't take offense to it.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
And I'm sure people feel the same way when they
see my face pop up on other people.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, it happens. It's part of the part of the
game we played. Thanks to Mickey G I can't wait
to meet you guys in September. Yes, I can't wait
to wait meet you either, Mickey and all you folks
that are coming down to our conference in nineteenth and twenty.
Thanks Mickey for the awesome super.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Absolutely, I get to see the I get to see
Robbie in person.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
I'm so looking forward to meeting you. And of course
another guy we're gonna meet, I'm as we'll bring him
up too. Mister Brent Thomas is gonna be Hey Brent,
what's happening?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Man, Hey, good to see you guys.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Thanks for let's see in the door.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
It's gonna.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
You know, you guys gave me keys so I can
get in anytime.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
But yeah, you know, he gave Brent keys to the
back door. It's interesting talking about doors. I'm gonna start
showing a little bit about portals. I found a couple
of interesting stories that I'm gonna share. Then we can
talk about wherever we take the show, of course, and yeah,
net conference. You know I I've been saying this quite

(05:02):
a bit because I mean this when I say it.
I do not want to wish the summer away. I
get summerred out by the end of July middle August,
I'm ready for football season. And it gets so dang
sweltering humid here, and all the bugs tend to come out.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
And what's that like?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
You know, you know, you know what that and you
know it's like weird. I get so many flies in
August and this is every time I open my back door.
Oh there's another fly that got in the house.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Regular, regular showers help with that.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, you know, it's funny. It's funny because I'll be
staying at that ranch brand I don't even know if
they have a showering facility, So I'm gonna be pretty
scummy for about four days.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
That's all right, horse Barn.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, they got a hose. Man, If I you know,
I'll find a hose, I'm gonna bring me down some
Sasquatch soap. You know they sell that now around where?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Right?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, that would be good and maybe someone will join
you in the bunk house.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah. Well, boy, and I think that I secured. Oh
I did secure my own personal private room at the ranch.
Then again, I'm thinking, wow, because this ranch is allegedly haunted.
So we'll see what.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Happened to see. I wouldn't give up my hotel room.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I well, you know what, I still have it. I
still have it just in case Monica. But here's the thing.
Thank you, Keith. I appreciate that. And Keith is going
to be at the conference as well. I do I
really have to meet yell and still yeah, you want
to mean Monica for sure. I just noticed my I

(06:48):
covered up. I finally fixed how to make your your picture.
Remember I was asking you and I got rid of
the box. But now I put up the comment thing.
Look and it covers you up all my work, you know,
But there it is. I finally figured out how to
do it a little bit. See that, no boxy thing
like me. So it took. It took a trial and error.

(07:08):
I tell you, making icons is tough.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I don't mess with it. I do AI for my graphics.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Oh yeah, I've yet to do that. I've got to
dive down that realm.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
It's easy. You just tell it what you want and
if it generates a photo and you know, if you
want to.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
You have you use GMT or do you use something else?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
You know? I have chat GPT.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
I haven't that. What is called GMT I I I
don't even have it. I got to look into that.
I guess it's just easy.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I have zero artistic skill, Like if I had to
do my own graphics 'd be like stick figures and
like the sun in the corners. I am not artistic.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Well, Brud's pretty good. Don here on your show, Brent,
you got a lot of cool I like how you
have like you're set up you got now and then
when you do your show. You have some pretty cool
imagery when you do your show.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
So I I honestly I used to do them manually
with photoshop and stuff, but I've been using Google Gemini.
It's a free one and it does a nice job
and I let it do the hard stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
It's great. Yeah. See that's on your phone, right, you
can't on my computer?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Oh Google supported right.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Yeah yeah, it's it's me I thought, And it's free
and it'll help you. I mean it does everything, like
I ask it, well, how you know, how can I
help to get better exposure on YouTube and stuff?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
And it gives you the best practices.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
It's it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's probably going to be
my overlord.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Someday, but.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
It's going to be. It's pretty started. Yeah, send me
that link down the road, Brant, whenever you get chance,
and I'll look into that. Just what I'm trying to
explore with because it's funny because I can do certain
things on my phone, but the things that I have
to do, like I was sell Monarky email me a picture, well,
you know, I don't want to do all that. I
already set you a couple and I'm like, fine, I

(09:02):
get it. I get it totally, Monica, and I can
find I can do it very well. If i'm if
it's live and I have my phone on me and
I take a picture of you in person, I can
it's it works, it's amazing. But pulling it off of
the computer, off of an email, the image is so
hard for me to manipulate. But I finally figured out
how to do kind of Monicas so in mind there

(09:24):
so we'll see. But I took that, but that.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Pictures floating heads and.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Floating as in a floating.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
You know, there's a Japanese I think it's a ghost
that that is just a floating head. It chases you
through the forest. Yeah, that's horrifying. Ghosty folklore. Yeah, they
have some really crazy like ghosts and cryptid type things
over there.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
They do.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, they got all kinds of creep stuff that in Philippines.
Philippines has a crazy amount of weird stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think there's is it the Iroquois, there's another there's
a Native American band that has that too. The folklore
or the floating head that chases you.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Oh wow, yeah, I don't think i'd want to see that. Now.
I've seen an e ghosts without a head. I've seen ghosts,
but I've seen a ghost like I told you guys
before that dead Man's Bridge as a kid. That was
a woman, a headless woman. I assumed it was because
that was the folklore behind what happened down there back

(10:33):
in nineteen sixty seven. And I came across it like
I was like eighteen or something, me a bunch of friends.
It was pretty creepy.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
It was kind of I imagine.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, it was weird, but I'm used to the weirdness.
We're all used to the weirdness. And speaking of weirdness,
I decided to do a couple of stories on portals.
The paranormal portal, of course, but because I haven't done
anything like this in gosh forever. But I was going

(11:06):
to ask you guys going around the room show you Brent.
I know, Brent, you've seen for sure UFO. We've talked
about this quite a few times. But your encounter with that,
your experience with that. And you're a paranormal guy, and
you've seen things in the paranormal realm. Whether the ghosts
or spirits, we don't know, but you've come across that.

(11:30):
You're a fifty to fifty on the big Foot that
you maybe saw or didn't see. Of course, you weren't
wearing glasses, you said at the time, so kind of
hard to make out, right.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Well, you're kind of conflating two stories there. I was
growled at when I was fourteen. I didn't dare look
turn around. But the story without my glasses was when
I allegedly met Glegg, and I never saw it. Even
though it was reported that I met Glegg this big Bigfoot,
I didn't meet gleg So, but I you know, I tried.

(12:04):
I was there, but I didn't see anything.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah. And and Monica, I know you've seen dog Man
a few other crazy things, but never asked you in
your lifetime, you ever think you might have seen or
experienced a port a little.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Uh so there's yeah, I think that I saw one
out at dog Man Ranch. I think that there was
very likely something going on in the trees there. I'm
talking really loud because my neighbors, like long people just
decided to start.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Of course they did, yeah, start the work, oh you know, yeah,
and speaking along people, my guys are gonna come up
here in about thirty minutes to collect his money. Because
I do have a long guy. I feel that I
started doing it by hand. I do so much in
the yard that doing the lawn. I love doing it.
But my lawmower took a crap not too long ago.

(12:58):
I guy, I want to spend five hundred bucks.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Right, yeah, I don't have a well, my long guy
doesn't show up.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
I don't know. Oh it's me, Oh I'm it.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah. My husband is typically mine, but it's been like,
I don't know, two weeks maybe, and we're in Texas
in the summer. My grass is like this long. I'm
sure there are long guys looking at my yard like yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
So Monica, I was now that you bring it up.
I wasn't asked you, I know, that Texas is always sweltering,
way more than Michigan. I would think that you probably
wouldn't need to mow your grass, but maybe once every
two weeks because it's.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Always mow it darn near twice a week in the summer.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, so you do get a lot of rain.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, this year we've gotten a ton of rain.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
So okay, yeah we have this year my grass. I
usually get a cut on Monday, and usually by Wednesday,
I gotta get a cut again. But I do that.
I do have a lawnmower. It's crappy lawnmore that I'll
do it, but I have the guys do all the
edging and everything.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yes, it's just you know, like two people walk up
to my front door going can we do your yard work?
My husband, through the ring camera, was like, no, we
do it, and I was like, do we?

Speaker 1 (14:14):
You know there's a reason why they're knocking out of
the door because a lot of it comes.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
To my door. I'm just throwing money at telling me
to take care.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
My you live.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'll be theres Gary Spike Senior, yes, Gary Spikes Senior
Pops as we all lovingly call him, is posting the
links to the conference and that's really the only place
to get the link. That's the legitimate website right there
that Geary's putting out if somebody tried to uh divert

(14:52):
sales to their website.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, so yeah, we need to like just put that
out there. If it's not Rob or me or the
Blondes or text or somebody like one of us posting
a link to something, don't click it.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Ooh that's crappy. Wow.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah, I didn't hear about that. Yeah, and allegedly this
person because it is on the Facebook. If you want
to check it out, Bront has been doing it, not
just Josh, excuse me, not just for you to huh.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Oh you were I got the hour glass thing, but
Monica got moving. Remember I was saying, I get legs spikes.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, you probably did. Everything looks good on my end, Okay, good,
all right, and you were good though you might have
had a leg spike, but you did not freeze or anything.
Just let you know you're fine. We haven't missed a beat.
But yeah, I guess this person I forgot their name
is insignificant now. But yeah, I supposedly they do this
as a practice. We're not the first conference they've tried

(15:57):
to infiltrate thed divert sales over its to them. Yeah, people,
you know, it's it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
People.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
People.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I'd rather dog people backstage before we came.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
I'd rather see a dog man in the forest and
a person maybe yeah, well you know, I mean I
know you then yeah, hey, oh it's Monica.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Depends on the person. I guess it's.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Some person that's you know, creepy, creepily in your camp
and you're sleeping. That's not a good thing.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
We had hunters come into our camp one night, like
in the middle of the night. Yeah, when I was
up in a Gifford Pinchot and I was filming for
Monster Quest. It was the camp of all women. And
in the middle of the night, Well there's elk hunter
all around, and there's like people go out and gather
bear grass to sell the florists out there. But yeah,

(16:52):
we were all asleep and I woke up because I
heard voices and there's like somebody was shining a flashlight
around and they came up into our camp.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, it is an interesting who is this guy? Who's
that red bastard? Doning posts show postally do not click it.
Thank you for somebody impersonating Donning show.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
This person is like sitting outside of my window with
this freaking like writing lawnmower. This dude's lawn the size
of a postage stamp. And these guys show up.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
That's awesome. Those are my people. Right there.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Is he lurking in your window at you at all.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
See it, But he's like literally parked right there.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Nemo via really quick line. Nemo links to k PO.
This will dining links will take you to cap.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Or some bigfoot adult viewing.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yes, Donny Shows show is definitely for adults. It's a
fun show. We have fun on there when we pop
on or when we don't. He does a good job.
He's now he is the Master of the Chad GPT
or whatever the hell you call him.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
He goes nuts with that.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, he has a lot of fun. So yeah, so
you know, I've there's a couple of stories of a town.
We can kind of talk about him a little bit
because I think because ironically and eerily somebody was telling
me about my experience, because you know what I do,
you guys, I've done over the last several years, Yes,

(18:48):
I have. I've talked to some psychic mediums about my
experience that I had. So we'll talk about that a
little later. But a couple of these, the portals is
kind of what led me to tell these, and I
think they're pretty cool, and I like to get your
thoughts on them, because again, I think portals do exist,

(19:08):
you guys. I mean they're out there, right, And typically
we think about a portal being in like a remote area,
like you know, the wilderness out on a lake or
an ocean, the Great Lakes especially, right, we've heard about
those stories. But there's a couple here that happened actually
in a guy's bedroom, and also another one that happened

(19:31):
in the person's backyard. And I thought they were interesting
to just to share with everybody and maybe your take
two cents on whatever how we do. And this guy
was explaining that I'm trying to recall it here. This hole,
this hole, this guy is saying, started drifting right towards

(19:53):
him and and he's in his bedroom and it's revolt
and this portal revolving, okay, And then he saw in
his bedroom now again at night, he saw two young
men sitting in another room through this portal. So this

(20:13):
guy is in his room and he can look into
this circular objects that appeared into his room. And he
says that it came from a mirror, okay, which is interesting.
And one guy was sitting and he was working. It
appeared like he was typing on a computer or something,

(20:35):
and this other guy was looking and what this other
guy was doing, as he describes, and then both of
these guys kind of look up from this portal or
whatever you want to call it, and they seen the
guy in his bedroom looking in at them. And these people,

(20:55):
by their expressions on the other side of this portal
or this mirror, noticed it right and then and then
he also said that this was kind of creepy that
the light from the room that they were in was
actually illuminating his bedroom very brightly. And he could see

(21:18):
something in the background. I think it was an ironing board,
you know, it was in there. He said, he saw
like a bookcase, he saw, he's seen a ceiling, and
then he's seen this door in the background that was closed.

(21:39):
And then all of a sudden, the door in this portal,
he recognized it and it was the door from his bedroom.
And now this guy thinks that he is really not
dreaming that he's awake, and he was sitting up just
observing this phenomenon that was taking place in his bedroom.
And he says, Rob, I think they were talking to

(22:00):
each other a little bit. He didn't really remember hearing anything.
He just thought about getting out of his bed, putting
on his clothes. He was just you know, in his
pajamas or whatever, and he was thinking about walking toward
this portal inside his bedroom, and he wanted he was
he really had the thought about entering, seeing if he

(22:23):
could enter through this this strange phenomena right in his bedroom.
But then he says that he eventually chickened out because
he didn't know what in the world it was, and
it was very strange, and he says it's because he
didn't really know if he would be able to come back,
which you know, I can I can understand that, you know.

(22:46):
So he says, now that this hole was a perfect circle,
and then it started to revolve and spin, and that
it kind of became a little more oblong, kind of
like maybe the shape of a maybe an maybe on
its side or whatever. And again then everything and all
of a sudden, he says that everything started to kind

(23:11):
of fade away and disappear, and he said, all of
a sudden, the light in his bedroom, everything went to
pitch darkness, and he's in his room in total darkness,
and he says, Rob, it's funny because he has a
very difficult time like most people, I would assume right
seeing in the at night. So he always had this

(23:33):
I guess you would call it a night light someone
in his room. And that was even extinguished. So his
entire room now is like the abyss. It's just blacker
than black. So he tries to fall back to sleep,
and he's thinking, boy, this must be a weird dream,
despite the fact that he knows he's fully awake. And

(23:54):
he put his head under his covers and he drifted
off to sleep. But he realizes that, yeah, during this
entire experience, you guys, he was actually sitting up observing this,
and he was observing those two men observing him. And
he thinks that they got frightened off right once they

(24:16):
realized that they were seeing him. And he said, there
was no glow. I mean, there was no like fog
or anything of course, to glow from the illuminated lights
from cast into him from this portal, or from the
lights from this guy's these two guys rooms that they
were in. So after that, man, he says, that's what

(24:37):
had happened to him, and so he was doing some
research on portals, got very interested, and to this day
he doesn't really know what it was, but he says
the experienced what he thinks was a portal, and he,
of course, thanks to God above, that he'dn't venture into it.
So I thought that was pretty interesting. A couple things

(24:58):
on this. There's a mirror involved right now. We've heard
about mirrors that are pretty creepy in their own right,
a lot of them, you know, if you believe in
that sort of thing. And the fact that this is
where this portal emanated from right. And then the odd
thing is that he and I never heard this about
a portal. That he saw these two guys working whatever

(25:23):
they were doing, and he could see the entire room
as I described, He noticed the bookcases everything else. And
then it was very eerie though, that these two guys
looked up and seen him, at least that's what he
thought at first, and they kind of got freaked out,
and after that they all had eye contact together. Is

(25:43):
kind of when that portal elongated turned sideways and everything
kind of faded away into darkness.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
Dad.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
You guys, I've never heard quite a story like that,
evolving portals. So yeah, I guess, I guess what's your
thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
That's a first for me. Yeah, I haven't heard anything
like that. I mean, but again, like when I'm not
discounting it, I mean, if he says that happened to him,
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
And again every story I ever tell you don't know,
Like I always don't judge people. Hey, you know what
happened to me. People don't believe some but you know
it is what it is, and that you move on.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, I mean I think that it's it's possible, Like you,
I believe that portals are out there. I think they are.
Do I think they're common? No, I don't think they're common,
but I think they happen. But that's the first time
I've ever heard of something like that where it's not
like into a like Faye, right, you're not going into

(26:46):
a different dimension. Let's say it's one where you're just
looking across town into your neighbor, like some dude's house.
You know, we always having coffee. That's the That's the
first time I've heard something like that.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
That's what I thought it was interesting to bring up,
because yeah, like I said, I've heard about portals. I
mean I've I know people that have experienced them. You know,
we know a couple of people, Monica Brent, I don't
know if you do, but you know, we talked about it.
Trey Hudson on the show a couple of weeks ago
about his buddies they had. They talk about the cube
in the meadow and on Thermal they seen one of
their research men vanished by this cube and the guy

(27:25):
came out of it and he says, I don't know
where I was. He was in the abyss and he
disappeared and when he when he walked into it, he
was fortunate to come back, he said, but he didn't
know where he was because it was just like just
darkness around him and then he and that's I've seen
that documentary. I also had the book. And I also

(27:45):
saw these guys at the conference a couple of years back,
and they showed the video and they seen Yeah, and
that I mean from thermal imagery did happen, right. And
the unfortunate thing is a lot of these people, these
it was a big radiation spike on his property, and unfortunately,

(28:06):
his buddy passed away got cancer less than a year after,
and so did another friend member of his team that
experienced the same thing. Not a coincidence there. Great. What
do you think about that story?

Speaker 4 (28:20):
I think it's fascinating that he was able to just
not only see this other experience through this opening, but
he was able to see the opening. I've often wondered
about portals. I mean, I think that a lot. I
think that they happen, maybe more commonly than we think,
but we just we sometimes well usually I don't think

(28:43):
this is just a theory, but I don't think they
normally see the opening. They just see what's through there,
you know. I think that in many cases, perhaps some
ghost visitations or viewings are maybe some function of that,
where we're the ghosts for them and they're the ghosts
for us because we're looking through this weird iris that's.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Kind of there but not.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
But this is a fully manifest where he could see
the shape of the opening and all of that, and
and indeed even the light came through and illuminated his room.
So I mean, it's a fascinating story.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I I I don't I think.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
It's an amazing experience, but I would I've often wondered
that if a portal opened and I was there, would
you go through? And I think I would err on
the side he did. It's like, yeah, but where are
you going? And can you get back? And you know
what does that mean? So it's probably better just to
maybe poke a stick at it like a little kid,

(29:42):
rather than to take.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, yeah, I think Mike, I would be with you.
I searched around in my bedroom for like a baseball
or or a football or whatever. It kind of tossed
it ever so gently though, because you know, again it
came from his mirror, which is another interesting part of
this equation, right right, because I wouldn't want to throw

(30:07):
a mirror.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Mirrors are doorways, like they think mirrors are doorways, And
there's there's a lot of like folklore not to put
mirrors like anywhere near your bed, like where it's like
you can see a reflection in the mirror while you're sleeping.
It's not supposed to be a good So that's I mean,
it's interesting that it happened in his mirror, and there's

(30:28):
these like these stories out there about like mirrors being doorways,
and then again with it, don't sleep with it like
basically at the foot, like facing your bed.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
You know, that's such a good point because remember I
told you the shadow Man, the shadow person that came
that I seen in my house in the darkness of darkness.
Remember the story, right, Monk Brent, I think I've told
you on your podcast. And then we had this psychic

(31:01):
medium or whatever, this person I don't remember, you guys,
I was in my twenties what she called herself, but
she said that that the source of what was happening
in my house with me and my wife was a
product of the artifacts that I collected. But now the
monica brings us up and I hate talking about my
stuff all the time, but it just resonates because it's
strange because and you guys are going to think I'm

(31:25):
probably kind of weird when I tell you this. Most
people do weird, Yes, exactly on the Far Wall. And again,
back when I was twenty five years old, yeah, I
watched scary movies pre and normal stuff, bigfoot stuff, I did,
but I wasn't like I am today and not being

(31:46):
a weird though, but the one of the Far Wall,
because when I bought this houses, our Meryll homes. We
got to fix them up to do and for whatever
the reason, I had this bright idea of taking these
twelve by twelve mirror tiles and the whole old back
wall of this house. I I put them up so
the entire back wall was all mirrors, and I thought

(32:09):
it was cool because they made my room like look
totally huge. Now, by the way, it was pretty big.
It was a read modeled twelve twenty four by twenty
four foot garage. I turned into a rob Rob's room
right back before they said man caves. You know that
was my room, right And yeah, I did that. And

(32:31):
now looking back on that, Monica Brent, we even brought
up the shadow person appeared always from that back wall,
and I never thought until just now about maybe came
through the mirrors.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, mirrors are poor little.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I mean that's like, that's a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Believe that, you know, involuntary shuggar.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah yeah, creepy.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I just yeah, yeah, I don't know what I think
that if a portal appeared, right and I'm looking clearly,
I know I'm not dreaming number one, because I'm in
a dark room. Am I dreaming? Like I've had very
realistic dreams, or it took me a minute to realize
I wasn't dreaming, or I was dreaming, realize I'm not dreaming,

(33:22):
and then I can see whatever. I would immediately leave
the room. I don't think i'd throw anything into it.
I'd get as far away from that as because I
don't know what's gonna happen. Is it gonna become a vacuum?
Am I gonna get hold in there like all a
poulter geist? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, I always say, have this dumb idea. Of course,
it's one of my dumb ideas. I don't think I okay,
I realistically, no, am I going to venture into a
portal if I see a suspected portal? Although I did
have this dumb idea about getting like a five hundred

(34:05):
foot chain and it gets some sort of waistcard and
it kind of, you know, put it around my waiste
area and venture through it with a chain wrapped around
like a big thick oak tree, so I could pull
myself out. But then again, I'm thinking that maybe the
portal will cut off the link. Anyways, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, I think I think when and if that closes.
It doesn't matter what you stick through it. You're not
gonna wedge it open. If it closes, it's closing.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
There's a horror movie and I'm totally forgetting the name
of it, but it takes place in this old church,
and it's supposed to have the devil in it, right,
and it's I remember, it's got this cylinder at the altar,
and the water's drip in the wrong way or this
liquid drip in the wrong way. And at the end
of the movie, there's a mirror that they go into
and literally like the Satan is trying to come through

(34:57):
the mirror like it's a it's truly a portal, and
it's abyss. It's blackness inside the mirror. Because I want
to say, somebody gets like either falls in or gets
pulled into the mirror and a sealed in there. So
I've seen too many horror The point I'm making is
I've seen that horror.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
As you have about you've seen a million movies to
my too. As you well know, every movie Monica has seen,
I probably have not seen, including popular ones Monica. But
since you're on the subject of beg La Pierre question

(35:37):
for you, I just happen to.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
See it, I answered her in chat, I don't think,
and but we'll answer it here. That's really interesting, and
I don't think i've heard that that exact thing she's describing,
But it makes sense, it makes sense. Do you want
me to read that out loud so people listening.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Can hear it? Yeah, Well read question for Monica. Two
mirrors facing each other. I've heard both that it doubles
the strength for something to come through, and I heard
that it prevents something from coming.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I mean both things could like be potential. I mean,
you have a portal facing a portal, some things could
still come through if they could slip between them, like
if you have a distance right, prevent larger things from
coming through it. I mean, if we're talking about like
non corporeal things coming through, it doesn't matter, like, yeah,
it can come through. I don't know what it would

(36:32):
prevent coming through unless it's a size thing, like a
physical being with size. But I mean again, but it
makes sense, Like what you're saying makes sense if you
consider mirrors to be portals.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah, I mean, I'm a scare of the mirror, but
like all of us, we've heard that mirrors could be
a gateway somewhere, yeh. And I think there's probably some
validity to that, especially this story. Whether it's valid or not,
I don't know. But it was a mirror, it was
a portal, but it was kind of odd, so I
thought it'd be cool to share that one. If you're
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(37:10):
do a few new folks come on in. Of course
the Brent Thomas paranoral Portal, and of course Bonica our
paranoral World hit that like button. So I'm gonna move
on home. Thank you, I'm at it, and SI, I'm up.
I want to think. Also briefly, yes, Mickey g once again, Key,
if you're awesome super chests, I appreciate that you guys.

(37:31):
You guys rock. So I got this. I'm gonna talking
about another portal story here, and we'll see what the
difference is in this Hello Michelle will found good to see.
Hello everybody for coming in. So this takes place in
this person's backyard against at their home. It's not out
in the middle of the wilderness, or as I explained earlier,

(37:51):
wherever else there was a fence, there was about fifteen
feet away from this person. From this lady and her husband,
they're together in their yard, and all of a sudden,
on the side of this big tree next to the fence,

(38:12):
this tree allegedly right going to this person, started moving.
And there was no wind down this day, and the
other trees and the other trees around this one tree,
they weren't moving. It was just this one particular tree, okay.

(38:33):
And again on either side of the tree, everything else,
all the other brush whatever, boom, no wind, one tree moving.
So this lady and her husband, from what I recall,
thought that maybe it was just an animal skewing around
in the tree, you know, creating the movement, which I
can I can roll with that. Right then after about

(38:56):
maybe a minute or so, again a black hole appeared.
Now a black hole appeared from what I recall, from
this tree, and a man appeared. And this man I
guess was carrying a box and a bag together in

(39:17):
both of his hands. And he emerges out of the
hole into their yard and he stays running across this
couple's fence for about nine feet break down the fence
line from this tree where he appears from this hole
in the tree. And then another hole appeared in front

(39:43):
of this guy. It wasn't connected to a tree or
anything else. Everything else was still not moving. Then as
he's running along the fence line, coming again from this
tree nine feet across the tree line a fence line,
and this other black hole appears on their property and
this guy kind of slipped right into it, walked right

(40:04):
into it. And he disappears, and there was no tree
around this unlike the first time. And then this black
hole kind of diminished, and the tree that was shaking
in the background in the beginning that was back to
calm and nothing. Everything was constant. And he says, he says,

(40:28):
it's funny, and it was very strange, says, I have
a description of what this guy even kind of looked like.
It was very descriptive. He says. The man, there's a
person Caucasian. He had a black, long flowing hair, who
was wearing a black shirt and just remembered these red
shorts and covered over his shirt. She distinguishedly saw a

(40:52):
flannel shirt and the flaps were kind of as he
ran to this other portal or black hole, it was
kind of you know, blowing as you ran. It was
kind of you know, kind of flank. Yes, off off
his back. So yeah, and then now the husband and
the wife they do kind of start to panic and

(41:14):
they ventured, but they, you know, they have their inquisitive
what's going on here? After this is several minutes after
this incident, and there they went towards this the big
tree where the original hole appeared, and they look at
it and there's nothing. It's solid. They even touched it
and and there was nothing wrong with it. It wasn't

(41:36):
dead or anything. So they go and ask me that
they've heard about wormholes and outer space, this, that and
the other, and nothing you know, on our planet. I guess,
I mean, I don't think they Evidently these people were
not into the things we're into. But I thought it
was very strange. Thought it was maybe time travel. Maybe

(41:59):
a person was teleported from another spot to another, which
is kind of what I was thinking. Some sort of
teleportation went on. I thought, yeah, that was kind of interesting,
because again, I've we've all come across lots of different
stories the things that we do, and I never really

(42:19):
heard I've heard similar, but not quite quite like that.
So once again, what do you guys think about that one?

Speaker 2 (42:28):
I don't know what I mean, that's interested, that's an
interesting story. I mean, it definitely sounds like wormholes to me,
that that kind of a portal. I don't know about
time travel, but I mean that's potential time travel.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
And again, I just that's just I don't know if
it is or is. And I was just thinking, I've
heard of people that I always refer back to the
old R Bell Show about the Mark Mark Markham, we
called the mad Mark who created a portal or created
a time machine supposedly or even a wormhole, because he

(43:05):
stole these transponders or transformers from a junkyard where the
electric company dumped them. He eventually got arrested put in
jail for that by away, and he created this little
in his garage, this little travel machine where he said
he and I heard this on the show, he took
a nuts a bolt and threw it in this thing

(43:26):
that he made. It was kind of like an actual
time machine, threw it in there and it disappeared, and
then the bolt was on the other side of his garage.
So I kind of got that put to and two together.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Just reading that story, it sounds more like he'd make
plasma than like wormholes.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, but whatever that was It just kind of gave
me that idea that maybe this guy came from somewhere,
came out of this tree somewhere else. Yeah, and then
boom opened up another gate or whatever.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I don't know, Yeah, I mean, his own little spargate.
It sounded like they were playing tag, playing tag via hole.
I don't know what to make of.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
That like either, but I thought it was just interesting
to share. And Brent gintst here, you know, mulling it
over a little bit in your head, any thoughts on out.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Well, I you know, I really do believe that that
we are a part of a multiverse where there's like
any number of infinite realities and versions of our you know,
our existence being mirrored across this multiverse. And I'm sure
that there must be versions of reality where there's just

(44:39):
different capabilities. And what it sounds to me is like
something's just traversing, uh uh through that. I wouldn't doubt
that if there is a multiverse, that there is probably
human like, you know, uh, people that can maybe do that.
They can just go through it and kind of go

(44:59):
at will. And I don't know, I mean, it just
it sounds like technology, but it also sounds like almost
some mystic thing going on, or maybe it's a version
of both. I don't know, but I think that, you know,
oftentimes we talk about multi dimensional and I think that
that that that really is kind of I understand what

(45:21):
people mean by it, and I think they're basically referring
to a multiversal because dimensions are orders of complexity going
up and up and up and up. And I don't
think all of these things are coming from either a
higher level of complexity or lower, but perhaps they're you know,
coming through some version of the multiverse into different versions

(45:42):
of reality.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
And I don't know.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
I mean, obviously sounds like the guy's fashion choices were
really bizarre, so they could bend from here, but.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
From the nineties coming through it sounded like, yeah, it
selling any better to me.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, even Blue yea.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
On his way.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
But I think it's fascinating that, you know, there are
many stories. Again, a lot of times don't people don't
see these openings where they're occurring. But I think that,
you know, being that we're in a multiverse, I think
sometimes these these versions kind of bubble over each other
and maybe create these openings. And perhaps there's there's people
or beings that just know when and where that's going

(46:27):
to happen. Maybe they got it mapped out and they
can use it like a subway and just kind of
traverse through.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
It's just a wild theory, but it's a fascinating story.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Fascinating, indeed, Brent, fascinating. Indeed. I happen to think that
people can't time travel. I think people can't astra projectick.
I think I kind of have. I've been told that
perhaps I have with different things that have happened to me,
and not getting any of that things. But anything is
possible in this universe. We do not know anything. When

(47:02):
we think we know something, we don't really know. It's
all speculation, hypotheses, you know. I mean, And we come
across these stories, these people to come on our shows,
this that and the other. It's like wow, really, so
it just gives us great ideas, and that's why we
do these shows, just to pick these things apart and
see remember E F. Hutton, what if I remember I

(47:24):
was like five ways in that commercial. I didn't know
what it was investments, I.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Guess I think so.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah. But one of the reasons I wanted to talk
a couple about portals. Is because I was just talking
to this person that found my bigfoot counterfascinating. This is
a new person that kind of looked me up, found
me out a channel, and offered me a couple an
explanation of what this person thought that I went.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Through that they're going to offer you something else.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
That's yeah, okay, rs, it's so it rolls, and now
it has happened. It has happened just because someone thought
I was a movie star. Yeah, and Kroger, who what
do you mean the think you were? He thought I was.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Thought he's Kevin Costner.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Come on, yeah, I don't know. They thought I was
the dude from Pond Stars. Oh okay, I see that
Rick Harrison. Yeah, I've signed many an autograph as Rick Harrison. No,
I did like ten years ago. I sound like fIF

(48:39):
I signed fifteen autographs at the Tiger Stadium.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
I guess if you just can't convince the people that
you're not him, then just roll with it.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I rolled with it. I got in a fight with
the guy damn near at a Kroger. Hey, Rick, are
you Rick Harrison? I said, well, no, he lives in Vegas.
This is Michigan. I fet wed. Yeah, I mean a
Kroger in Michigan, and it was Christmas time, and the
guy wanted to fight me because he thought I was
just trying to get out of my celebrity, my alleged
celebrity as allegedly being Rick Harrison. Wow. Really the guy

(49:11):
got mad at me, mad like he was like calling
me a liar. I know who I am? When is
he my id?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah? And then the same A career is a career,
you know.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
And then at that same Kroger, Hey, listen, yeah I do.
I guess I couldn't. I couldn't perform a stunt, could
be a body double.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, same Kroger, same time year,
same year, Christmas. I got all these groceries. You know,
it's kind of a blustery day. It's wintertime, right, and
this lady checks me out. I'm like, oh wow, you know,
s well, she's kind of pretty meanbo you know, talk

(49:55):
to her. I said, now, I got things, Suice. I
kept walking. I felt the eyes on my dad.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I got better things.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Well, you know, it was as busy it was Christmas,
and I know I was like always rushing, right, but
I felt the eyes on the back and I'm thinking, naw,
she thinks I'm Rick Harrison. I just got that premonition.
And I turned around and she's smiling at me. I go,
you want an autograph? That's just what I said. Yes
I do, Rick true story.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
So okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Okay, whatever, you know, can you take a selfie? I
gotta show my husband. He ain't gonna believe this. I go, sure,
I put my arm around her. She takes a selfie,
takes anapshot. Yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Time to shine with this.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah you know, I got luck. Yeah you know. And
and yeah, so I said, well, wish you merry Christmas.
You know, I got to go back to Vegas here
in a couple of weeks. I love well. I ham
it up. If if someone thinks of someone else, I'm
gonna play it. I played.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
I believe that.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yes, and so yes, that was probably pretty cool. But yeah,
it's happened to me numerous times. Rick harsonthing has it
happened in a while. But this show is not really
popular anymore. But back in his heyday, I was Rick
Harrison to many many people. My nephew thought when he
was a baby or ten, you thought I was Bruce
Willis from die Hard.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Oh, I can see that.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
You know, my son watched like when he was very young,
right when he was like three or four, when Wonder
Woman first came out, he thought, he goes, is that mom?

Speaker 6 (51:40):
Oh yeah, I love you baby.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
I'm sure your father wishes as well.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Right, yeah, fair, it's just funny. That's that's funny. And
again movement, yeah, but again it hasn't happened in a while.
But you know, I just can't believe I can't get
over to people that wanted the guy who wanted to
fight me. Literally, Monica, you're a wonder Woman. I Bruce

(52:21):
Willis and who is Brent? Who can we say? Print is?
You know?

Speaker 4 (52:26):
The only the only time I've ever been confused for
anybody was there was a show that was on TV.
It was called Touched by an Angel a long time ago,
and it was The Angel of Death. John die was
the actor's name, And there was at that time he
and I looked absolutely identical. And and I was sitting
at KFC with my family at the time and eating chicken,

(52:50):
and this lady's like and and all of this, and
and she's smiling and looking at him, nodding, and uh.
Then she she got up and she was leaving. It's like,
I just need to tell you I just love your show.
And I'm like, oh, thank you so much. I appreciate it.
And that was my encounter of being somebody else.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
But it was a little bizarre. Yeah, it was nice.
I wrote it too.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
I was like, yeah, I don't get to sit on
this bus much, so I'm gonna sit on it and ride. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, yeah. There was a point again, we'll move on.
There was a point where I was always always ricky.
People just always stared at me and thought I was him,
and I don't personally see it. I mean not to be,
not to wear the amount of people and when I
say this and we'll move on, it's been hundreds, you guys,

(53:44):
not five, not ten, one hundred or more, and I
just never, really, I can every every person in the
world resembles somebody in it to a fraction, I think,
I really think, but to the extent that I would
get for a long time. They went on for five, six,

(54:05):
seven years. But anyways, the reason I'd like to bring
up the portal thing, alluding back to what I was
trying to talk about, was I got this interesting theory
about this person who actually again as a psychic medium,
and now many when I tell my Bigfoot encounter, I

(54:27):
always tell it one hundred percent the same each and
every time, and I never mentioned anything about the Red
Barn ever until a couple of years ago. I had
Robin haynes On and she allegedly, during my show was
mind speaking with my bigfoot name he called himself Delano,

(54:50):
And I said, who the hell's Delano? This during the
show live everybody, we're talking about something else, and all
of a sudden, she got this vibe my bigfoot was
trying to get in touch with me. And when I
to tell Robin that I was blocking him out and
not allowing him into my space, which I never had
any vibe or premonition or anything whatsoever in my entire

(55:10):
life about mind speak with my bigfoot. Okay, And I
thought ish, I didn't know that well at the time.
Now today I do know her pretty well. We became
friends after the show. But what I thought she was
legitimate about was the fact that I never, ever, not once.

(55:30):
You can go back and find me. Every time I
tell my story, I never mentioned the Red Barn. Delano
says that, yeah, he came from around the Red Barn
when he appeared at the shoreline. And then when she
told me that, I said, this woman is the real deal,
because I never told anybody because the Red Burn played

(55:50):
no significance in my story whatsoever, there was no reason
for me to ever bring it up. So yeah, and
then he said he slipped from a portal. So this
was two years ago. So about a couple months ago,
I got this email from this person that follows a
channel says they's a psychic medium and they just so

(56:14):
happened to see that show. And the reason they saw
the show because I'm now doing short clips on all
my shows. I put them on YouTube. I'll go back
in the archives and I'll do a five minute clip
of past shows for people to maybe go watch them. Right,
So I've been doing that for a while now. So
he happened to see that short clip, this person and

(56:35):
told me that he thinks that from his whatever however
these mediums work. I don't know, you guys, but what
he was seeing, I guess because one hundred miles north
of where my encounter was in the Upper Peninsula. Now,
the Upper Peninsula is nothing but a lot of underground

(56:56):
copper minds, they're beneath the ground. A lot of the
base of this state is made up of copper and
a lot of sea salt. If you go, if you
dig deep enough, you hit salt, because the Great Lakes
are technically formerly sea oceans, because the Great Lakes were
salt water water at one time, many many many years ago.

(57:22):
And said that this bigfoot was traversing about the underground
copper mines because they derive energy from copper. First time
I ever heard, that, of course, from this person, and
was traveling about these underground mine shafts whatever tunnels, and
all of a sudden, during the travel from northern Michigan

(57:45):
to southern Michigan, which technically is still where I was
in Northern Michigan is not the Upper Peninsula, and it's
in this underneath the ground, this bigfoot, it happened on
to a portal, and this portal portal transported him out

(58:05):
from around as he sees in his vision, the red
barn work came out of right and says when it
see me, it was just startled, and it was actually
just as shocked as I was, because the bigfoot allegedly,
allegedly with this person's telling me, of course, transported himself

(58:26):
and was scared as much as I was scared when
I seen mine when I seen it. So again, I've
gotten so many theories what people think I saw or
didn't see, and that's the latest. And so I don't know.
Anything's possible, I guess. And the only reason I even

(58:48):
mentioned this on the show to you guys and people
listening is because the fact of the red Barn situation,
which I've never told anybody. So there's one element of
fact involved in all all this. Now, how deep do
you want to read into it? You know? Did this
person want to pull my leg? Again? We just don't
know what the business we're in, right, but that would

(59:10):
be interesting just to bring up today. And I have
no idea, you, guys, Minca always I love Monica because
she always when I tell the story, she always has
that inquisitive shaking of the head like I don't know, So, Monka,
what's what's your thought? What's your thought? What's your immediate
thing that comes to your mind? Guys, guys? Or standard

(59:34):
modic answer, which is awesome.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
That's why I love standard Monica answer.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Anything is possible. I'm playing games with you, Monica. But seriously, though,
anything is possible, and I don't. I just don't know
because I've heard so many things that I don't know
what to believe. I don't believe any anymore other than
what I saw, and that's the only thing I can
go on today.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
It's fact and truth, right, Yeah, I think I think
it's a it's fascinating take. I you know, I I
will be absolutely transparent and that it's hard for me
to understand the whole. This this archaic creature that we
understand to be Bigfoot or whatever, is living very very much,

(01:00:17):
I don't know, like a stone age culture, and yet
somehow they're tapping into this incredible mysticism. And you wouldn't
equate one with the other. But I, you know, I've
heard all the claims, a lot of them. I've had
people tell me their experiences of seeing it. It's just
hard to wrap my head around. And it's not that
I don't believe it's not true or I don't believe

(01:00:37):
it's it's not possible. It's just I don't understand it.
And that's the part that's hardest for me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Well, the thing is, I don't understand anything. I mean really,
I mean, when I think I understand something. I don't sure. Yeah,
it was now four plus four is nine that I
don't get it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
There you go. I don't know what they say that they.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Did. I say nine, you did?

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
You did?

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
I know, I got a great comment. I don't know
how to take this farm where she is? Uh, Rob,
you I've got the most wonderfully bizarre stories. You need
to be strapped.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
To a medical table.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
I've probably been inducted by an alien. I don't know.
They sent me back like this guy's not wrapped too tight.
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
You're wrapped just right for us, Rob.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Yeah, well yeah right, Yeah, it's approaching six thousand subscribers.
I'm doing something righty Wait, thanks to everybody. I appreciate that. Yeah. So,
I don't know, you guys, I believe in all these things.
You know, I certainly what could happened to me happened.
But I'm not here to talk about me. I just

(01:02:09):
I just found it resonated and there was something I
thought i'd bring up today. But the portals are fascinating.
Kind of getting back on that topic a little bit
because and I'm kind of glad that, you know, I
got involved with this community because like when I go
out in the woods today or anywhere on the water

(01:02:30):
or wherever, I really do have my head on a
swivel because you hear so many stories about you know,
for example, with the missing for one one, Yeah, you
know some as humans are doing that, cryptids, perhaps there's
a whole there's there's twenty different things we can talk about.

(01:02:51):
But I think that people that do end up missing
outside of stupidity. I think that I think that people
can't walk into these things and never return. I think
that's a I think we have to put that percentage
into the four one one.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Have you guys ever experienced anything like that, like a
like a portal or anything like that. Have you guys
ever had any experiences that you think might have been.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
So I saw one or I think I saw I
saw something the property we call dog Man Ranch. So
my first visit there, it was clearly an archway that
was illuminated, separate from the surrounding forests. And then on
my last visit, the area that would have contained this

(01:03:45):
art right, if you walked through that arch, you would
have walked into this little patch of woods. I was
walking the dirt road parallel to that, and that area
within the tree line was very faintly but definitely illuminated.
And it's it was interesting because and I was trying

(01:04:06):
to figure that out. I'm thinking, am I looking through
the trees like into the creek bank on the other side,
and the moon's hitting the dirt and that's what's you know,
But it was too thick. We weren't that close to
the creek at that point. And I don't really have
an explanation for it. But it also like if it

(01:04:27):
were a portal, that I would be able to see
it from the side is weird. You know, you'd think
that it's like it's a flat plane where you cross
the threshold, you're somewhere else. I shouldn't be able to
see that illumination once you're in it, or you know,
when it's tunneling out. I wouldn't think you would see that.
So I'm it's all very strenge me. I don't know

(01:04:49):
how many of it works. Maybe you can see it.
I saw something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Yeah, how about you reb never seen a portal. But
I don't know if we slipped into a portal or
not known it. Because I've told this before, me and
my buddy Mike and Mickey. We went out on a
he had a thirty two foot boat and this was

(01:05:14):
maybe about ten years ago, and we went to put
In Bay, which is an island off Lake Erie in Ohio,
and it takes you via boat about three and a
half hours get there, and so we all boarded the
vessel and took off because again in Michigan, you know,
we boat quite often, and I know friends have boats painfully,

(01:05:39):
and so yeah, so we hooked up and went to
this island, which is a very cool island. I don't
recommend going if you're married, just saying so very good.
It's a great time though. Really it's cool, beautiful, this,
that and the other. Just a good time had by all.
So we're leaving the night to go homes. We had

(01:05:59):
a work on Monday until we left Sunday, and we
left at night though, so we got too wrapped up
in the festivities. Right, We're like a screwed I'll call
them light or whatever. So we all say, yeallow's going
light to work. So we left though, and it was

(01:06:22):
the darkest night to leave and go on a boat
because the moon wasn't out and it was nothing but
darkness on the water and the navigation system was okay,
but we went by typically we just knew how to
get there. There's something called the Detroit Light, because all
you would do is from Detroit you would go east

(01:06:45):
to the Detroit Light, then you would go southeast and
then boom, you're on to put In Bay. Very straight,
very simple. Anybody can navigate it. So on our way back,
we saw what we apparently thought was the Detroit light,
but we thought it was odd because it's the only

(01:07:06):
beacon on this pathway right, so we thought it was
again on the Detroit light, but we thought it came
up rather quickly, within under an hour. So we set
the headings and just traversed, you know, boated whatever whenever

(01:07:27):
verbies you want to use. So then all of a
sudden we're thinking, man, where are we because it's taking
We didn't see any these lights on the shoreline, and
we thought it was getting odd. We figured we should
have seen something by now, and then all of a sudden,
it's almost like the days started to roll by, the

(01:07:52):
sun started to rise in the distance, and then we
realized that and we did not know this. We looked
at a watch. Here's a funny thing about this entire
we're on this boat, sitting up top at the home
doing our thing. But we did not realize. It didn't
seem like it was long at all, just a typical
trip that we see in the horizon the sun coming up.

(01:08:13):
And then we finally we had no phones on us,
we had no clock. We went down below in the
galley area and we looked down the clock and it
was like we've been on the water for eight hours.

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Oh wow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
And so then all of a sudden, now we're running
out of gas. But we are physically awake, and we
know we've only been driving the boat for two hours max.
When we hit the Detroit light. We are now lost.
We have no idea where we're at. We're running out
of gas, and we ended up in this channel and

(01:08:46):
on both sides of the channel are these very steep
like granite mounds. And this boat is a deep V
hall right, and it should be in no shallow shallow
depth of water you should be, and it should be
at least six and a half feet. We're now getting
approaching three feet of water and we're in a bottom

(01:09:07):
out and not to mention, we're running out of gas
and we should not have run out of gas because
we were on full, so we ended up in the
Mommy Channel, the Mommy River in Ohio. We should have
been out of Ohio after thirty minutes we ran out

(01:09:28):
of gas drifting around this bend and ended up in
some marina. It was in Ohio. And the distance we
traveled in the time that we put together, number one,
it shouldn't have taken the whole night. The sun should
not arose. It should only taken three and a half
hours to get home, you guys. But we end up
being eight hours off course, and we were awake during

(01:09:50):
this entire this entire travel, which is the most bizarre thing.
So apparently we travel eight because we ran out of
gas the sun rose, but we are up the entire time,
you guys, and we knew where we were in Mommy right,
I know, Ohio kind of unfortunately. But anyway, we gassed

(01:10:15):
up and we got home, and certainly I was way
late for work, in fact, I had him calling off
because and we got home and when I remember getting home,
you guys, I was exhausted, like I hadn't slept in
like two days. And that was a very bizarre incident.
I couldn't tell you what happened on that trip and
back during the day again on my tea thinking time

(01:10:37):
loss portals and nothing like that experienced something. We weren't
that dumb, and no we were Yes, we weren't like
hammered drunk and just did an accident. But the thing
that we saw we thought was a Detroit light. It
should have been the Detroit light. Apparently it wasn't, so
when we veered off course, it could have been just

(01:10:58):
our stupidity. But even you get to Ohio, it just
eight hours on the water. There's just no way that
happened because none of us fell asleep. So I don't
know to this day how to explain that one away.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Yeah, I mean it sounds like you went through a
wormhole or something. You're conscious, You have a continuous stream
of consciousness from the start to the end. You don't
have any missing time to your knowledge. Yeah, there's no
breaks in conversations. You didn't see anything weird in the sky.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
It was just like us doing a ninety minute show
and then all of a sudden, eight hours later, we're
still doing the show. I mean, typically that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:43):
That's interesting. But the but the gas burned as if
you running the whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Yeah, the yst did burn which.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Wow, yeah, that's yeah. I don't have.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Huh, I don't know. I mean I talk about once
in a while. Very weird. I mean, and you guys
that we did that. And here's the thing about Putting Bay.
We did that trip. That was not our first rodeo.
We we've got you, the three of us, Me, Mike
and Mickey. We would do that to get us three
guys get together all the time. We did it for
five six years in our younger days, you know, in

(01:12:21):
our youth, because where we went as we hung out
during the summer. And again I could do that course
on a boat myself alone with my eyes shut. It
was just look for boom to Detroit light set your
court in southwest, just hover along the shoreline and you
will get you'll get home very easy, very easy to navigate.

(01:12:44):
And this beacon and there's no other beacons on this
pathway and we were not unless we just were just
blacks of days ago, didn't give a crap and just
did something on our own out of our own recognizance.
It's still don't explained the eight hours said don't take
that long. Hell, I can take a boat from here
to see your point. You don't take eight hours, and

(01:13:05):
that's way way far away from me. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
That's a fascinating story, Rob. Have you ever thought about
trying hypnosis to see something to recover?

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
I don't want to know what my past.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
I don't blame you because you can't. You don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
But yes, my buddy, that was not very little to
if if there was a guy to do what I
can have him doing on that's what he does, and
he's I can try. I do trust him. I don't
want to be I don't like the idea of people
probing me my brain, you know when I'm sleeping.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
Yeah, wow, he's asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Oh God, keep you I'm not rick here. Fascinating story,
you guys. And yeah, that happened to me and I
can't tell you and I never And here's a funny thing,
you guys. We my friends, the three of us, we
racked our brains back in the day. What the hell happened?

(01:14:13):
We just we just said maybe we were a drunker
than we thought we were. We just made a mistake.
But even today, now looking back, even if that was
the case, it doesn't matter because we should we should
not have been home. We should have been home well
before sunrise. We should not have expended any of the
gas because we did fill it up, because it would

(01:14:36):
have taken a corter tank of gas to get home,
not a full tank. You guys. That is the thing
that is the most disturbing, And the fact that we
saw the sunrise and we are, as Monica pointed out,
we were at the top of the hell the whole time,
bssing about the entire trip, and all of a sudden,

(01:14:59):
it's like we go in the gallery one the hell
it's six thirty in the morning. Dur ain't no way,
you know, we were not on the lake the river
that long. We weren't. We were up the entire time. Yeah.
So that's why again I brought up, you know, you know,

(01:15:20):
fascinating topic portals. Did we sleep in? Did we sleep?
Did we slip into a portal? We didn't sleep, didn't sleep,
did not sleep.

Speaker 4 (01:15:28):
It's just funny that your awareness shows that there's a
big gap there. But the boat did burn up an
equivalent amount of fuel.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
See, there's no explanation for that. I mean, I guess
there is scientifically but hey, you know, sure, I don't
quantum mechanics. I don't know quaquam physics. I don't know
there's a well, you know, maybe that's my work. Maybe

(01:15:58):
I did experience that my day, who knows, but fascinating
for sure. I wish one of the two would have
been there with me, because you know exactly what I'm
talking about. It was the eerieus I get it. Yeah,
eerie feeling, eerie feeling, and again the gas the sun.
That's kind of proof that, Yeah, we expended eight hours

(01:16:19):
worth of travel time.

Speaker 4 (01:16:23):
Yeah, I had a space slip once and it was
you know, I've shared it many times before, so it
might be redundant, but it's the only one that I
know that something really bizarre happened. But it was I
was traveling with my eldest son, Sheldon, to bring my
middle son all over home to his mom's house. And
it was a blizzard, but I was just like, no,

(01:16:44):
I got to get him there. So we're driving to
Minnesota on the back roads to go over to where
his mom lives. And it was treacherous driving. It was
really really bad and it was getting mortars, but I
got him to his mom's house. And then we had
to start the forty five minute journey back, but it
was going to be about an hour and a half
because we're going about a fourth of the speed normally,

(01:17:06):
so we're crawling along and I can see five, you know,
five feet in front of my hood.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
It's just gotten to be wide out.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Conditions now, and I'm worried because in the road there's
an S turn coming up that's going through this valley
and it's deep on both sides, and I'm like, man,
I can't see but five feet in front of me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
This is scary.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
And I knew it was coming up because there's a
big dip in the road before it, like a mile long,
you know, kind of hump that you go through, and
then on the other side of that you start the
S curve and I'm like, oh my god, I just
feeling really stressed about it, and I was telling Shelton, look,
you got to do what you can to help me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Watch.

Speaker 4 (01:17:46):
I know we can't see anything, but we can't miss
this turn because if we get stuck, not only could
we roll the car and end up in a ditch,
but nobody's going to find us. You know, there's no help.
There's no other cars on the road. We were the
only idiots struck. While I was the only idiot, he
was a kid, So I'm the idiot. But I'm driving
and suddenly I'm driving along and I'm like, it's coming.

(01:18:06):
And the next thing I know, I see a sign
says welcome to Hay Creek. I'm like, that's past this
S turn. I didn't turn my steering wheel, but somehow
we went and missed about a mile and a half
of road and suddenly we were ahead, and I was like,
what the hell's going on? But my son was the

(01:18:27):
first one to say, Dad, what just happened? And I'm like,
I don't know. We didn't feel anything, didn't notice anything.
But suddenly we were a mile and a half forward
on the road and had completely missed that s turn
and thank god, you know, but it was like a
divine intervention space slip kind of thing, and then we

(01:18:48):
were past it. And to this day I can't explain that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Yeah, I don't know, Brent, I mean, that's unexplainable as well.
You know, I remember, Monarcha, you brought up something a
while back that everybody like driving in cars. We've all
you ever driving in your car and you just zone
out and you just don't know where you're at a while. Yeah,

(01:19:16):
is that kind of what do you think happened to you? Brent?

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
No, because I mean I was acutely aware of what's
going on. What you're talking about is that's very common
people slide into a state of self hypnosis on a
repetitive or whatever. But man, I was white knuckling this.
I was all about focusing and paying attention.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
So that's very that then that makes it doubly yeah, fascinating,
creepy odd.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
Yeah, but it was a blessing though, really, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Well some it certainly was in that case because a
lot of the A lot of things do happen for
a reason, I do believe, Yeah, And I don't know.
I don't know if the reasoning behind a lot of
these situations are, but they happened for a reason. I
don't think other things like coincident.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Yeah, No, I'm not a big believer in coincidence either.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
You okayme out. You're still working very hard, diligently doing
are you multitasking? Models?

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
Multitasking?

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
I think that I think there was a fascinating show coming,
you know, I think that time loss, you know, of course,
I'm really quickly here things for the super chat. Andrew
he brings up, and yeah, we've all heard this time
loss is associated with abduction. Now that's we typically have
all heard that. I mean, were we abducted off the boat?

(01:20:49):
I don't know, because there's too much evidence that suggests
otherwise with the gas in the sun, right, so I
don't know. Fascinating, it's the same. Yeah, Monica, I'll let
you get back to we we're coming up on our
time and I gotta pay. These guys are cutting the grass.
I've been blowing that off. I didn't want to leave

(01:21:11):
the show because it was a great show and they
always I want to think really quick Mickey, Keith, Andrew,
if you're awe some super chats, Little Patty asked really quickly, Monica,
do you know a way to stop and the TiSER
coming through a mirror? I didn't see that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Yeah, I think that you can try covering the mirror
because it you know, you cover mirrors when somebody passes
away to prevent their spirit from like entering and becoming
trapped in it. I I mean, I don't know, I
would try that. Maybe it'll work on the reverse, keep
things from coming through. That's that's what I would try first.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
I would roll with that, Monica. I would roll with that.
Speak of Monica. You have a show tonight. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
You off tonight or I'm off tonight but still on vacation.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
So Joey is on vacation joe Okay, very good, Joey Boy,
Joey Boy, you'll be at saray with me. You're reconvening
at night. Awesome. Brent, what you got going on during
the week, my friend?

Speaker 4 (01:22:17):
I kind of appear on the show at three today
yet to be interviewed, and then I'm going to be
just doing my show on Friday and Saturday and getting
ready to gear up to start season seven of The
Paranormal Portal Podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Season seven Does time fly by?

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
You know, I I just want to say that, you know,
when when I say season, I do it for a year.
Like so I do fifty two plus shows in a season.
So I'm on season seven and it's still people are
still listening. So knock on wood.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Yeah, yeah, they still listen to us across the board.
Thanks for your support. Love everybody, hit that like button
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Appreciate that. So for Monica and for Brant, I am
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