Baylen Out Loud

content warning: child abuse, sexual abuse, self harm

This week, Princess brings back Rachel to talk about TLC's newest reality star with Tourette's.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, before we get started, I just want to warn
you that this episode contains talk of child abuse, sexual assault,
and self harm. And if any of those things would
make this hard listen for you, then don't listen to
it and I will see you the next one later. Hey, guys,

(00:21):
Princess here and welcome to another episode by Pumplin. We
are currently in between seasons. We just finished our season
with the Newlyweds or Newly wis Nick and Jessica, and
we will be talking Celebrity Fit Club in a couple
of weeks, but for right now, it's time to do
some palate cleansers, you know, just just a little something
something in between. These episodes would generally be bonus episodes

(00:46):
on the Patreon or on Apple podcast subscriptions whatever what
they call that, but in between seasons I like to
do a few of them on the main feed just
to give people an idea of what you could get
over if you subscribe to bonus episodes. And also, let's
just like, you know, again, palate cleanser. Let's just let's
just exhale and get ready for the next season. Uh.

(01:10):
Today's episode is I have Rachel on it. The reason
I have Rachel on this episode is because she is
the one that told me to watch Bailing Out Loud
like months ago, right, and so since she's the person
I've been texting about with, I was like, I gotta

(01:31):
bring her on here. Overall, I don't know how how
on the radar Bayling is for us reality TV junkies.
I don't know. I don't know how how much people
are talking about her. I went to the reddit to
you hear me references throughout the episode. I went to

(01:51):
the reddit to kind of see what people were thinking
and what people were pointing out, and it reminded me
of the Sister Wives reddit and that sub reddit, and
that the fandom is very conservative. When I was on Twitter,
I did not like to tweet about Sister Wives because
I would get some you know what, nobody, Nobody's ever

(02:14):
mean to me, but I would always get some people
agreeing with me for the wrong reasons. And I don't
ever want to be on the side of someone who's like,
you know, I find Mary's not the queen that the
other that my other that my friends think she is
to me. Neither is Janelle. I just heard that. I

(02:35):
just heard somewhere that Janelle that that Tata Farms thing
they it has to be like developed for commercial use
or some shit, and like they didn't know that and
they bought it sight unseen. I don't know how fucking
true that is, but the fact that I believe it
immediately of Janelle where everyone's like, it's fucking a finance whiz,
I'm like, she knows what do taxes? Guys, Calm the

(02:56):
fuck down. But but I mean, I was, I guess
sound like her. Y'all are always acting like she's fucking
Bobby Fisher and know she isn't. No, she fucking isn't.
But when people are like criticizing Mary like I like
to do, and I think we're on the same page, right,
and then they're like yeah, because and they start talking

(03:18):
about her child and how being transit and the things
like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot. I'm in conservative
waters here. Oh I forgot. Okay, okay, okay, okay. And
this is one of the reason I don't like to
talk about sister wives on like I don't like to
post about them on like places like Twitter and even
threads because it's more of an open, you know world there.
But like when I was in the subreddit for Bail,

(03:39):
and I was like, oh, okay, all right, I see
what's happening here. People are thrilled for Bailing to marry
this man because they are of the mindset that finding
someone to marry is like the very best thing that
could ever happen to you. I'm sorry, I don't mean

(04:00):
a laugh. I've been proposed to so many fucking times.
It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't
mean anything just because somebody's willing to marry me, Like, what,
what does that mean? Nothing? But like, and that's why,
like some of the opinions I expressed in this episode
about Bailing and Colin and our family and about Bailing

(04:22):
being a military wife, I'm like, you guys just want
a happy ending because you think that guy's cute. And
I'm sure his peaches and cream complexion is cute to somebody.
I mean, he's got a lot of thighs. I mean
he he can pull out those uci daddy shorts. Okay,
I have to say that. But y'all are in love
with him because he's in the military and he's speaking

(04:44):
a military We talk a bit about this in the episode,
about the possibilities of bailing being a military wife. And
I need to guys to remind you that being a
military wife is super fucking hard. You're alone most of
the time, you are expected to be alone. In fact,
you are celebrated for being alone and barely celebrated at all,

(05:05):
not monetarily. And then you find out the dude that
you that you've been staying home waiting for all this
time is cheating with somebody on the fucking ship. Ask
me how I know, and so and so like that
aspect was interesting to me. I was like, Oh, you
guys think that somebody who has severe turetts and compulsions

(05:26):
and various other things is is should have like a
small baby at her home in Oklahoma where she's on
a base by herself. Is that what you think should happen?
To be honest, though, Collins and the Air Force, so
I would not presume to I think he gets I
think his his deployments would be less so than the military,

(05:49):
than the Navy or even the Army. But I could
be wrong in that, but that that's my It's always
been my impression that their deployments are less so, but
who knows. We talk a bit about that and before
we get started, I just want to make sure that
you guys know that as much as this show is

(06:09):
about a super cute girl with a sparky personality yelling
at about penises and Joe Biden, it is about disability.
This is about disability, And although we get a bit
into that, I want to remind you guys that like
the stuff that Bailin is dealing with, trying to make
sure that she has the resources to live independently, trying

(06:31):
to make trying to balance being in a partnership along
with someone who's presumably gonna be her caretaker, dealing with stairs,
trying to navigate disability, her type of disability in places
like TSA, where she's scrimping about a gun and can't

(06:51):
control herself, is something that people with disabilities do right,
whether you can see them or not, her disability is
very visible. Uh, And whether or not you're a cute
girl from West Virginia with all the family and resources
in the world, you still have to navigate these problems.

(07:12):
And there are people with very few, like none of
the resources Bailan have, that are still navigating these problems.
They like they got to figure out a way to
get up and go work because otherwise they can't live.
You know, it matters whether or not they get their disability.
It matters. All these things matter. And so if you

(07:34):
get a chance to watch Bailin Out Loud, which is
on Max, I think it's a TLC show, which is
how I that's why I was watching it on Max.
Is of that unholy fucking merger. If you get a
chance to watch it, I want you to watch it
with that in your head that this show may make.
This about whether Bleen should marry, and whether Bayleen is
strong enough to be with Colin, and whether his parents

(07:57):
approve blah blah blah. But really, Balin is navigating the
waters of disability. She's got a nice boat, but she's
still in the same waters, you know. And one last
thing before we get started, I want to remind you
that I am not an expert in turets. I'm not
an expert in o c D. I'm not an expert

(08:18):
in ADHD. There are things we talk about here and
things that we're like, Hey, what about this, what about that?
These are just supputations, supputation, these are just these are
just things we are supposing. We were saying, if I
wonder and things like that doesn't mean that these are
these are like, we're no experts. And so if you're

(08:41):
listening to this and I have said something that is
not correct about Turet's or I have I have made
an assumption about OCD that is also not correct, it's
fine to reach out and let me know. I'll update
the episode if I get one of the if I
get note, because it's important that I'm not out here

(09:03):
spreading misinformation, at least not on purpose anyway, you know.
But other than that, I had a good time talking
about Baileen. I hope you guys watching, and I hope
you guys. I hope you guys enjoyed as much as
I enjoy talking about it later. Hi, Rachel, Hello, thank

(09:23):
you for having me on the show. You were the
person I had to ask to record with me because
you are the person that said, have you watched this
crazy new show on Max? And I started watching it
because of you.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, I mean everybody should watch it. It's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, it's really funny. It's only what is it, nine
episodes this season?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
I don't know it is short though.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, it's short. I'm sure it will be twenty seven episodes.
Next year, it's.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Gonna be like the Plaths, the platfil you know, it's gonna.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Be like gonna go on and on and on.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, So the cast of characters is basically so, we
got Baylin Dupree. She's what one about to turn twenty two.
She's got tourettes.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Uh, she has she has the like I can't remember
what they call it. I should be more prepared, but
she has like a type of tourettes that is like
pretty bad. Yeah, she has like a subtype that makes
her scream vulgar things.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Right, and she's her touretts is not just the thing
she says. She also has there's an OCD component to it. Yes,
she has compulsions, like physical compulsions, although she calls them
physical ticks, which I guess makes sense to her, Like
there's audio ticks and then there's physical tics. And she's
had it. I think she was like thirteen or fourteen

(10:44):
she was diagnosed and her parents talk about like having
to feed her like she couldn't she couldn't control her
body to do things right.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Have you seen her the knife?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, I've seen her with a knife. I've seen her
with a knife. I'm like, why don't we just put
the knives away? Guys, No, nobody has to use a knife, right,
we don't have to. Like, it's nice if you can,
but you don't have to. She also like some of
her compulsions are things like if something's squishy, she's got
to hit it, like chop it, like her birthday cake,
or like having her in the store like chopping bread

(11:24):
and screaming obscenities and that Joe Biden's vagina is on
fire or whatever she says, right.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
That happens when she sees a bald person.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Oh, she yells, baldy listen. Some of them are funny.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Okay, I'm sorry, No, it's like that's the thing is
that they're all pretty funny, like it's.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Raining vaginas, and she's doing like like if she hears
a British person, she has a little tick of doing
like a British accent.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Right, what's your favorite one?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
I think it's raining vaginas. Okay, people that people, or
when she keeps telling people that various people in their vicinity,
like her family or friend that happens to be there,
have like gonorrhea or.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Something right right, or she'll go like I'm pregnant.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh so she's been She's twenty one,
she's been doing this for some time. Obviously, she lives
at home. Obviously high school was hell for her. She
lives in an affluent her Her family's a fluent Okay.

(12:33):
Her father works for the federal government. I'm not sure
if he if he commutes to d C because it's
only an hour and a half away, but I am.
But he works with the federal government. They live in
West Virginia. They have six kids. But they give me
Utah vibes, not West Virginia vibes.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, very much, right.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
It feels like they're from some place else.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, I mean they they're very wholesome.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Are wholesome? I don't they remind me of the Mormons
on the Secret Lives of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, okay, Like there's something cultish about them, right.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
So they're a little cultish. But they're also like or
maybe they're like a Whitney on Salt Lake City, like
very I used to be Mormon and now I have
like a schripper pool. Like they the children curse a
lot and like, but the mom definitely gives me like, uh,

(13:33):
I used to be a hot lady and now I'm
a hot mom and now but they have six kids.
The kids all have wild names, weird names, like one's
name Vic when he's thirteen, what's the Bertrand what's that
little one's name? It's sim Belchin? What is his name?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, a Belkan.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
It is something ridiculous. Mom's name is Julie. Dad's name
is Alan. The oldest is Burke. He's two three. Sammy
is like twenty ish, so she's younger than the other girl. Yeah,
she's the other girl. They've got spin who's sixteen.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, where did these kids? Okay, it's Beckner is the little.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Beckner is a ten year old and he he gives
me he's the youngest of six. He gives me My
parents gave up, right, they were tired.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
He is so funny.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
He is funny, but he very much is like, yeah,
they they're not gonna like tell me when to go
to He also.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
He also he has a haircut, like, oh my god,
like the dad from Sister Wives.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yes he does. He looks like a little Cody Brown.
He does. He absolutely, I mean he's not balding, but yeah,
he's got that haircut. Uh huh, I actually wanted to
People were like, we want more from Beckner. I actually
wanted more from Vic, who's a thirteen year old, but
it looks like he's thirty six.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
I can't even I can't even picture which one is.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
He's constantly looking like disheveled. In the back ground, he
looks okay, shit, and I just like, somebody check on
Vic real quick.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
See him pulling up a picture. Uh is he the blonde?

Speaker 1 (15:16):
No, he's dark hair, and he's got a glasses.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
The glasses Okay, I see him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
So he just looks older, like like he's just been
through some dark things. And so they all they don't
all live there. I think Burke the oldest doesn't live
somewhere else. He recently graduated college, and her sister is
in college. Her younger sister is in college. But everyone
else lives at home. And Baylen has a boyfriend named Colin,

(15:45):
who I believe the redditors are in love with. They
love that little Lord Fauntroy peaches and cream complexion of
his like he's he's blushing at all times and he's
really think about the hips. I've never seeing anybody in
tight her.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Pants on this man Colin is pretty cute. I guess
like bye by like traditional standards.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Oh yeah, you know the warning girls go crazy over
that one.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
He has thick thighs and he wears short shorts.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He's in he's in the Air Force.
He's like twenty four. He's in the Air Force. He's
talking about his relocation package and or he says, I
have to go to work, and I'm like, on Sunday,
what what do you do in the air what? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
What does he do?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
What does he do? And so he and Balen are
in love, and Balen wants to be married and have
children by the time she's twenty five. Balen cannot go
in the grocery store. Balen cannot cook, which is not
the I mean, people live without cooking, but like they're
trying to show her how to cook and teach her things,

(16:51):
and she's like chopping the egg and like throwing. She
cannot stop herself from throwing the ship.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Right, She's she's dangerous. She could hurt herself, yeah, and
she could hurt somebody else and drive.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
She's using plastic like utensils most of the time, paper
plates because she might like you know, throw them or
drop them or something.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, although I'll say this, she has two dogs. She adoors,
two little little puppies she use adors, and I don't
ever see her throwing those dogs, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Like, right, that's true.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
So, and she does say that Colin is her medicine,
which was a problem for me. I don't think people
should say things like that.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
They you know, I mean, unfortunately, it just is what
it is. But she like has to be codependent with somebody.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
She has to. I mean, she we're really talking about
is disability. She has a disability. Yeah, and her level
independent and her level independence will be always be based
on what resources are around her. The reason I just
like when she keeps saying Colin is her medicine because
she takes less around him. And apparently when they have sex,

(18:05):
she doesn't tick at all, which I was like, I
don't know Balen. The thing about Baalen, okay, I think
about Baalen is her personality is pretty quirky.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Why I think that is, I'm sorry to interrupt you.
Your blood flow is leaving your brain and it's going
to your genitals, and so maybe that part of her
brain just isn't getting as much Like.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I also think she's busy. She's doing you know, do
you feel me what I'm saying, she's busy, So that
you're right, But like she's got a pretty quirky personality anyway,
It's not like sometimes she was saying stuff and I
was like, oh, that's a tick, and I was like, no,
that's just her talking, right, So I was thinking, how

(18:49):
does Colin even know if she's ticking off unless she's
yelling about Joe Biden's vagina, I don't she might not
be you know what I mean, I don't fucking know.
But I just I dislike people who have mental health
disorders or neurological disorders or things like that saying someone's
their medicine just as much as I would dislike someone

(19:11):
saying that's maybe in recovery, saying that someone is their sobriety.
And I'm like, well, you might not be with that, Parson.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
For well, it's problematic because like you can be addicted
to a person just like you could be, you know,
addicted to substances.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, people do turn Yeah, you're right, Like people transfer
their addicted addictions to other things, And right, I don't know.
I The fact is he's twenty four, she's twenty one,
and she's like, I want to have a baby. I
want to have some babies before he turns thirty, because
you know, he has to die when he turns thirty.
And so she's like there, and I'm thinking to myself,

(19:50):
So the whole conceit of this season is Bailen getting
independence and whether Balen and Colony to get married and
move in together and that sort of thing. And I
found mysel like being like, it literally doesn't well, one,
it doesn't matter if Colin and Baalen ge get married
to get together. They will not be together in ten

(20:10):
years because they are youngest fucking shit. And this is
literally the first person that she has had like a
an intense I'm sure she's had like little boyfriends, but
this is this is her first real relationship.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
And I actually also contextualize it with like he's from
like Christian.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Weirdos yep, from Roanoke, Virginia.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, like like, you know, should they be together in
ten years?

Speaker 1 (20:38):
You know?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Maybe not? Will they They might just because of you know.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
I don't think so I'll tell you why. I'll tell
you why, Okay, right, it's because the thing is is
that Balen has an immense support system in her family.
They have money, they have resources. Her mom may't got
nowhere to be okay, So like her mom doesn't run
to work okay, and so like if Bayleen gets upset enough,

(21:06):
she always can go home. It's not even a fucking
that's that's true. Like like she won't even have to
like get a lift there. They'll come get her, like
it's no question. So that's why I don't think they'll
be together because not only has does Balin have an
immense disability, Like this is like, you know, this is
not one of those invisible disabilities that people just have

(21:28):
to cope with on the this is huge public Like
she doesn't get away from this. Not only does she
have that, she is incredibly sheltered, very just very sheltered.
And I'm thinking about her being a military wife, and
I'm like, oh, barely, You're gonna be alone all the

(21:50):
fucking time, babe, like all the time.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I Yeah, I wondered about that too. It's like it's
like it didn't seem like that big of a deal
whether they live together or not, because I was like,
he's not gonna be there and.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
He's gonna be relocated.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, you're gonna be in an apartment all day, or
he's going to be deployed, or you're going to be
moving around the country or moving around the world, or
I don't know how that works. I mean, maybe you
know what I wonder, maybe you would know this because
but like maybe if you're in the military and you're
married to someone with a disability, maybe you don't have

(22:24):
to do all of that.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
There are things that you get to you can get
waved out of, but not the main stuff. So no,
I know, and Reddit people are like, how's he gonna
sign that lease if he's got to leave, And it's like,
because in the military you can break at least if
you had orders, you just bring them and they have
to let you out of the lease. So that's not
a problem. But like he like she will be expected

(22:51):
to do things on her own and she will not
be No one will be like, oh, poor Balen, your
husband is gone for anything. No, they don't give a fuck.
They don't give a fuck. Like it's just like that's
that's what we do. I remember when I was younger
and I lived on base, A woman down like two
doors Down was like always just distraught when her husband

(23:13):
was deployed. She like threatened to kill herself. She do
all kinds of stuff trying to get them this in
the home, and they were just like, ma'am, we are
going to take you to the looney bin and we're
gonna take your kids away from you. Yeah, nobody's coming
home though, so calm down. Well.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Also, there's another component that they haven't mentioned but seemed
obvious to me. But I'm not gonna say like that
this is hard and fast, but she really gives me
autistic vibes. Sure, and you know there there's like some
stuff about life that she just can't handle, whether or

(23:50):
not she's ticking or in her OCD behaviors, like like sensory.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Stuff like the thunderstorms when her yes.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
And then like the being over stimulated and having the
having to wait for a couch delivery, and you know, like.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Well, I thought that was also partly being young, because
as you and I know, if somebody's delivering furniture, that's
your day, babe, that's where you're at.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Today, right, It's right, they're gonna say one to four
and then they call you at six and they're like, ah,
we're not coming, or we're coming.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
And I know she forgot to get the she lives
in a high rise, so they have a loading bay,
Like you have to these are things you have to
sign up for. You have to have the correct like stuff,
set the appointment and stuff. But like when she was
like I just have to wait for the couch, I
was like, yeah, so you're gonna be there till what
eleven PM? You can still come whatever the fuck they
want to. And then they're gonna come up there and
it's gonna be an all in little pieces, Balen. It's

(24:46):
not gonna be a couch. It's gonna I hope you
pay for the for the for gonna put it together,
because right, I mean, the couches don't come from them again.
But I felt like this is me, this is her
being twenty one, being like she's never had to wait
for anything, like her mom would wait for it, her
other sister would wait for you know what I mean,
Like she's never had to do anything like that.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Very true.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
So I felt like she just didn't know. And so
they so they want to be together. And then she's
also like she wants to have a baby. I don't think.
I'm not saying she can't have a kid that's not mine.
That's not for me to say. That's her bailing to
the side. But I don't think having a baby will

(25:30):
make her takes less prominent. I think it will make
them more prominent. I'm not saying she's gonna hurt the baby,
but I'm saying that the stress of having a newborn
like take over your life, is not gonna make it better.
Just like when she says she's drinking, she's like, drinks alcohols.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
That is wild to me that she drinks, right, I said.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Then what are you doing drinking? You don't have to
nobody's making you, so just don't drink thenk.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, that's probably like just not a good idea for
someone with a neurological disorder, right.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
But she's like, I'm like, but we're young, and I'm like, yeah,
but you don't have to drink. Why would you want
it to be more? Okay, So when you first said
this to me, I started watching it and I was like, Oh,
she's really lucky. She's like the cutest little white girl
in the world, right, She's such a cutie, And I'm
imagining while she's in the grocery store, throwing things off

(26:24):
the shelves and chopping brand and like screaming about vaginas
and baldy's and whatnot, and her mom just like like
I mean, when they went to the airport, she was screamed,
I have a gun at TSA.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Oh my god. See that's the thing with her brand
of Trette's is that her subtype is that if she
gets something in her head, like the more inappropriate it is,
the more she like has to stream it. And it's
just so bizarre.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
And she does a physical tick like honking and horne.
She's gotta do it three times since the OCD making
her do these rituals and compulsions.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
When she met her boyfriend's parents, they were sat down
to have a conversation and she just blurts out, I'm
pregnant and then she's like, no, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
She flits people off. That's part of it too. Yeah.
I actually felt her in that TSA line, because I
do sometimes have strong feelings of like being high places
and being scared I'm going to jump off of it,
like scared that I will not be able to take
you know what I mean, Like like sometimes I see

(27:34):
things I'm like scared of myself doing something, and I
have been in those long lines and just being like,
I'm not gonna yell that out. I'm not going to.
I'm not going to. But but obviously I can control myself.
So when she was yelling that, I was thinking, Yeah,
that absolutely happened to me a couple times at the airport.
I was just like, oh my god, Like, don't say

(27:54):
you have a gun. Don't say you have a gun.
Don't say you have a gun. Like me thinking about that,
but her saying don't say you have a gun immediately
turns into a take of I have a gun. Your
mom were sketchers, look at that baldy.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, but like to your point, if you're in the
TSA line screaming I have a gun and you are
not a white, acute, white little girl, yeah, what's gonna
happen to you?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
A lot a lot of stuff will happen to you.
You can't be out in public throwing things, and like
people will call the police and you and the police
will shoot first and ask questions later. If you seem
she's lucky, she's not like a six foot tall black man.
She's so lucky, even.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
She's like, she's not a fifteen year old, you know.
Boy Like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
I was like, oh, you're so. You're so lucky that
you look the way you do and that you have
this blonde mother who's with you all the time and
it's constantly. She can drive you everywhere. She can do this,
she can do that because I think the world will
be very, very different for her. Otherwise, I don't know

(29:01):
that there'd be a Colin trying to be the love
of her life if she didn't look the way she did,
you know. So there the question is whether Baylan can
be independent. And so when we're talking about that disability
and independence, I'm like, if Baylan had to be independent,
she could be. She does not have to cook, she

(29:22):
doesn't have to go to grocery store. She can order Instacart,
her Mama Burgner groceries. Money is not a problem for Baylan.
She's also an influencer, right well, she think.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
So that's how she got the TLC show. We should say,
is that she got like TikTok famous because she I
can't even think right now.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Well, somebody reported her in the store and it started
going a little viral, and she I guess she says
she came out as that person like maybe she's stitch
it or something. Was like, that's me, this is my condition.
And she got although people do think she's fake, and
I was like, I don't know. People think Helen Keller
was faking it. So I don't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Maybe I mean, yeah, I think right, there's I don't
think she's faking it, but I do think she gets
a lot of positive reinforcement. Yeah, it's like, you know,
she a lot of what she says is funny, like
for real. You know, there could be an element of exaggeration,

(30:29):
but I don't think it's fake.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
I think I exactly what you just said. I don't
think and I don't necessary things exaggeration. She talks about
suppressing her ticks makes them come faster. I think that
Balen chooses when not to even try to suppress her ticks.
So that's what people are picking up on. It's not
that they're not real, it's that she is. If she's
on camera, she's like, all right, I'll do it, like

(30:51):
I'll just yeah that. I think that's what's going on.
I So, but in these she can take ubers, she
can she should move to a city like DC, which
is a don't and a half from where her family lives.
She should move to a city so she can take
ubers and get instacart and live in a walkable place

(31:12):
so she doesn't have to drive, and make her place
compliant no gas stove or anything like that, and have
meals delivered to her. That is possible. Money is not
an issue for Baalen, But the second question is whether

(31:33):
she and Colin should be together, and if I were
Colling's parents, even as Balen's parents, the question of sending
Baileen to a new caretaker who is going to caretake
her based on how they feel about her romantically is
terrifying to me. So if he decides he doesn't love

(31:55):
her anymore, which is what twenty four year olds do you,
then she's all the things she's built up to rely
on him, which is crazy because he's not even He's
probably gonna be deployed all crumble and that like that
would stress me out. I know a lot of people

(32:16):
were like her parents are overbearing. I don't think so.
I mean, well, I do think they're overbearing, but I
think to give them a bit of grace when they're
talking about how they had to shower her four years ago.
They had to get in the shower with her and
wash her and had to feed her. I think that
they know how badly it can be, and it's hard
for them to be like, here's a stranger, go off

(32:38):
with her. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Well, they they do have concerns, you know, they're not
It's like they want her to experience normal life and
they you know, there is like something about her parents
that I like, which is that you know, they kind
of they kind of surrender because they're kind of like,

(33:02):
you know, she's gonna do what she's gonna do, and
like she's gonna have to experience these things, yeah, at
some point, and you can only experience them through experiencing them,
you know. And if this, you know, fails, it fails.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
If she needed to move back.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Home, she needs to move back home, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
But I would have they're dating two years, I would
have said them. I would have been like, you guys
should move in together the first year so they can
hurry up and break up. That's what I would have done.
I mean, there's that because they're already fuss they're already
mad at each other because when they're they're kind of
long distance. When you're a long distance I mean, you
and I are both married, we know what it's like

(33:43):
when someone's in your space all the time, even if
you really love it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah I wish she wasn't.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah exactly. You're like, and they're not doing things the
way you like them to do it, and you're and
then we think about when I was fucking twenty one,
I had no patience for shit. I thought I just
didn't have any patience. I would not compromised. I also
there listen, Baylin and and Colin are together a lot
more than this show wants to apply. Because Balon fell

(34:11):
in a shower and Colin didn't call. So they're like,
she like ghosts houses business night all the time.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
So, and that's one of the reasons they're upset is
because the idea that she felt she bangs her head too. Guys,
she bangs her head, that she that she they're upset
that something happened and that they only found out later
days later, And I'm like, well, that's what it's gonna
be like when Balin's living in fucking Utah with Colin.

(34:40):
You're not gonna find out for days later.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
That's where I think things might get cut off. Like
I don't I feel like her parents aren't gonna be
down with her moving out of the DC area.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I think yeah, but I think they're gonna have to
be I just I just you know, I have kids there.
I got two teenagers and they're not anywhere near this.
But I just am like, yeah, go ahead and fucking
try dude. I'm a go ahead and try it kind
of person. I don't think it's gonna work, but you
let me know, because I just don't think standing in

(35:12):
front of people being like no, I think they think
you're a hater. They're never gonna believe. I didn't believe
my parents about anything. Mm hmm. I thought they're idiots.
I mean, they kind of are, but I never believed
anything they said. I had to go out and let
it happen to me and so but it's hard when
you when you're child has a disability, and I so

(35:35):
much has gone on, you know what. I wish they
focused a little bit more on Rachel. I know those
kids are present Bailey. I know they do. My God,
talk about it. Those kids have to be a fucking
annoyed with Bailey now that they don't love her obviously,
but like they got shit going on too, and their
mom is probably constantly with Bailin.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, there's a lot of kids, so it's hard to
when you have one with such high needs, it's got
to be really hard to give them all the you know,
attention that they need. And like the little one does
a bunch of sports, I think, right, yeah, so that
that does have to be hard. Who maybe they have
a hired help that they didn't show, or somebody that

(36:20):
helps drive them around to things, But.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
I don't know. I think. I also think because four
of the six are boys, and boys have difficulty expressing
I need you, you know what I mean? Like, I
think they probably hear it the most is from that sister,
which is why the people on Reddy don't like her.

(36:45):
Like I don't know, Bailon likes her. They're like, well,
she's jealous, that's why she doesn't want to get married.
I also think that so these are very conservative people, guys.
I think that Colin's family is Christian conservative, right, Yeah,
so Trumper's for sure, Yeah, Trump is definitely. Actually Bunny
had like a play date where she had to go

(37:06):
over someone's house. And I was driving around the neighborhood.
I was like, Bunny, these people voted for Trump. And
she's like what. I was like, yeah, for Trump. She's like, no,
it's like that little white girl's mama voted for Trump.
I don't know to tell you. She's just looking at me.
I was like, I'm sorry, it's true. I mean, don't
ask her, but just like, let's not bring it up.
But definitely definitely, babe. But I think Baylor's family are

(37:30):
also Trumpers, but they're not Christian Conservatives. They're just conservatives.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yeah, I do think that they're Christians, but I just
don't think. I wouldn't call them capital C Christian conservatives.
I just their lifestyle and stuff, like you know, when
Colin sleeps over, he doesn't have to sleep in a
different room, but he does, but they have to spend separate.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Rooms, right, And they might go to church on Easter.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
They might go to Yeah, they might go to church
on Easter. H Baylan did talk about how much she
loved Jesus at one point. I was like, yeah, I'm
sure you do, babe. But I don't think that she's
like she's she's not in danger of like getting into
the quiverful movement, whereas I think Colin's sister might be Yeah, yeah,

(38:15):
that's what I think. So when you add those things
to it, the oh. So I started thinking about that
a lot already. I mean, we're watching the reality TV shows.
A lot of people are very conservative anyway. But I
started thinking about that when when Bayleen started having those
ticks about Joe Biden in the White House. There's a
vagina in the White House, and then she started later

(38:39):
jb this, oh, Joe Biden's dead, and the.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Okay, I have the I have like the Bayleen subreddit
pulled up and there's there's a thread that's like, what's
your favorite Baalen quote? And so here's this. Here's just
to say I'm playing at them. Butter your own biscuit,
fat ass body built like a Poloff, body, built like

(39:07):
Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
She's just had a million times. So okay.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
But remember she's in like an uber with a guy
who's telling her about where he's from, and he's talking
about falafel and she's like, falaffel, I've never had that before.
And then she's like, now I really want to try it.
I got to go to a falafful place and then
it kind of got stuck in her head. Wind It
Up is the one I was trying to think of.
That's what got her. Like TikTok famous wind it Up,

(39:30):
wind it Up.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Isn't winded up from like the Gwen Stefani so that there.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Is a wind it Up from a Gwen Steffani song. Yes,
that is the name of a Gwen Stefani song. I
don't know, I think that, which is another editorial rant
I have. Yeah, but I have a big rant coming
on either TikTok or Instagram about Gwen Stefani.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
What better.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Are you gonna let me do it here?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Go ahead, I don't just get it out of myself.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I haven't thought about white tep fan in a long time.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Okay, well, first of all, my favorite Balen quote was
tapped through a tissery chicken.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
That's my.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Okay, Gwen Stefani. So people are up in arms right
now about Gwen Stefani saying like the old one Stefani
would hate her the new one Steffani. Now you know
because she is married to the country guy Blake Shelton,
and she like goes hunting, and she talks about, Yeah,
they live in like Oklahoma for most of the year.
She talks about like God being the biggest blessing in

(40:33):
their relationship. She is probably a trumper, I mean sure,
but so I think Gwen Stefani has been that person
this whole time, and I can prove it.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Okay, Why how can't you prove it? Like what?

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Okay? So, Gwen Stefani, I can guarantee you was not
some cool teenage girl who got into ska music on
her own. You know. This was because her brother was
into ska music and brought over some cute guys and
Ghen was like, So she makes her personality about the
rates that she's with and you can you can see

(41:09):
this in her music, and you can if you go
back and you watch interviews with her, and she talks
about like relationships are like the most important thing to her.
Being with someone is the most important thing to her.
Her self esteem comes from relationships. It does not come
from being hot, It does not come from the music
she's put out. It comes from being in these fucking relationships.
So what did she do? She got herself a boyfriend

(41:31):
that was like a friend of her brothers, you know,
in a ska band and she makes it her personality.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, okay. And then he takes her to an Indian
wedding one time, she puts on the indie and never
takes it.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Off exactly, you know. So there's that aspect to it.
When they broke up, and she got with Gavin Rossdale
pretty quickly and he I think she really like wanted him.
I think she liked how he looked for her, and
even though he was fucking around with her or on her. Yeah,

(42:05):
with other celebrity women, namely Courtney Love. Oh I didn't
know that and yep. And Courtney Love like said something
you know, nasty about her once and like, yeah, and
Gwen Stefani wrote halla back girl.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
About that's that's exactly. That's right because one of us
knew what the fuck she was talking about and she
said it was about right, so you know.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
And then and then her and Kevin Rossdale get divorced
after ten years or whatever, and she gets with this
fucking Blake Shelton, like of all people, and now she's like,
she makes these men her personality. So I guess what
I'm saying is the core of her, who knows who

(42:51):
the core of her is, but she's, you know, kind
of got that. I'm addicted to men personality. They give
me my self esteem and I change who I am
to be with them.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
So like she's dressing how whoever, she's not.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
What You're right, You're right. Yeah, I feel like with Gwen,
it's like even it's just so obvious to me. You know,
she wants to, like, I don't know, go back and listen,
to return to Saturn. It's all there, It's all there.
She's obsessive about men, and I think that's really embarrassing,
especially nowadays. You know, nowadays, it's so embarrassing. And you know,

(43:34):
I'm just I'm not surprised she's taking on Blake Shelton's personality,
and I don't think we should be surprised about that.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
And that and do you think they're gonna last?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I think she's doing her best to make sure to try. Yeah, sure,
but I don't know. I think he might be a cheater.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Maybe, I mean, should I twain? You know what I mean?
Should I Twain's imploded? And then they partner swapped? I
don't know. Yeah, so who fucking knows? But yeah, I agree,
I want to talk about when Balen and Colin decide
to move in together. Right, Okay, they decided to move in,

(44:16):
they start looking at high rises in DC, which probably
cost an arm and I'm fucking like okay, And.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
This is after they get both parents approval.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
By the way, Yeah, they were like, we need to
talk to both their parents. I was like, you guys
are adults, Like I don't, okay, that's fine, whatever, go
talk to your parents. And their parents all were like,
we don't like this, but whatever, I guess you're gonna
do it, which is the truth. They're gonna do it anyway.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Who cares? So they they they find a place they
they're concerned about, like all kinds of things like the gas,
the gas stove, the balcony that they're on the second
floor and looks out over a gas stations so people
can hear her screaming things and that shere to call

(45:00):
cause fiction. Also, she's she's terrified of heights. Hmm, Like
like they knock her out on the plane. She asks
to take a pill to go to sleep on the plane.
So why does she need to live on like the
seventeenth floor.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
That and the fact that she'll like go out there
and shout obscenity is off the balcony and.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
She can't get throw herself physically. I And she gets
new ticks all the time, guys, that's another thing. She
picks them up from other people. If something says something
that lights up her brain a certain way, then she's
gonna that's gonna be her new tick. After she moved
through Colin, her new tick was literally screeching, like just screaming.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
And so it's possible she can pick up a new
physical tick that throws her ass over that fucking balcony.
It's possible. I So they get the apartment and they're
moving in. Her whole entire family comes to move them in.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
I don't but these people are so nice, Like I
don't even know what it would be like to have
anyone be so nice to me in my family, Like.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Just come and see.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
My family is my biggest hater. I don't know about you.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Your biggest apps. My biggest app is my husband. My
mother's the second clause, yeah, like like.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
If you I saw this TikTok the other day, I
was like, if your mom wasn't your biggest hater, then
you'll never get me.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Like I know what you mean, but I don't know
if it's necessarily they're nice to her or that they're
like they're used to being of service to Bailin.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah, but I'm sorry. Like Beckner and like those teenage boys,
I'd be like, no, like I've got to go to
my baseball game or hang out with my friends, Like mom,
you've got this, Like I don't think I would help.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Let's not discount the show.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
That's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
This could be a show thing, but I honestly they
feel like they needed that many people. Honestly, I was like,
this is not it's a thousand square foot apartment. The
apartment was cute, it had these huge windows and.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Oh it's like a nice building.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, yeah, it was super nice. But I just was like, like,
so they're moving in and and you know, Baylen's having meltdowns,
like because moving stressful to begin with, Yeah, already, and
then she's got this camera crew, her whole family, and

(47:28):
she's not. Baylen's not used to physical labor, manual labor
guys like hanging things up and cleaning that she's not
used to that. You can tell she's not. It's not
her thing. And so she's stressed, she's yelling at Colin,
but they move in and they finally get everything the
way they want to, and it's her birthday, she's turning
twenty two. They decide they're gonna have like a a

(47:50):
cowboy party at like a restaurant that has one of
those uh mechanical bulls, very early aughts of them that
they were doing this on every fucking reality show back then.
And Colin decides, as a surprise, he's gonna get dressed
up in Daisy Duke's and he cannot.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
He cannot stay away from a pair of short shorts.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, and so he's gone, that's what she used to
do with the couch. And I thought to myself and said,
how long did it take Daisy Dukes?

Speaker 2 (48:24):
What if like ten years down the line, he's like
comes out as like like like Bruce Jenner did, Like
you know what, guys, this was just all about the
fact that.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
I don't think I don't think he'd come out as trans.
I think he would come out as gay, okay, And
that made that seems a little bit more. I think
that's more like up Collins Alley. But I don't know
that that dressed up where they all went off to
get that, and then she was left alone and she
called him. She was like, this is going on, and

(48:55):
he's like, I wish I could be there. I'm like,
but where are you? How was it take to get
some boots and some duke swim? Why you got all day?
And then is it supposed to be fun? I don't.
I don't know. Again, you and I are in mid forties.
So for us, if somebody told me they were gonna
have a birthday party and they move, I'd be like,

(49:17):
let's just make it a little key. But it's too
much energy get moving and then also have to doing
a big thing. Let's just sit down somewhere like that's not.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
My husband's birthday is next week, and I keep being like,
do you want do you want this? Do you want
to do this? He says no to every single fucking thing.
And then we're at Costco yesterday the day before, and
I was like, do you want a birthday cake? Do
you want a COT's cook birthday cake? And he goes, yeah,
I think I I think that's that's the extent of
the birthday.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah. I mean it's hard when you're older because anything
I want, I can buy right now right if I
actually wanted it, I just go get it. And I'm sorry.
I don't want to go anywhere, not really, No, I
don't want to go anywhere, So then I want to
see people. I just don't fucking want to go anywhere.
And I'm fortunate now that I'm back in this area

(50:09):
that like, my mother's birthday is in July, so's my son, sows,
like two of my cousins, my nephew, and so. Because
I have so much family around, we just do like
one birthday dinner in that month, and we all come
and we bring presents for each other not to and
it's just like boom, the birthday is done. You don't
have to talk about this shit anymore. It's already. We

(50:30):
all came together, everybody changed presents, we ate some shit,
we sang Happy Birthday, and then we left and I
don't have to figure. I don't know it's but Baylen's
twenty two, so.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Her she's got drinking to do.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
She's got drinking to do, even though it makes everything worse.
So they get into an argument when he shows up
in his Daisy Dukes oh, and he like walks out
of the party to take a breather and everybody treats
if he like threw his keys at her and said,

(51:02):
I'll never want to see you again. Yeah, he abandoned her,
That's what they keep saying. He well, he's gonna walk
out on things. I'm like, I don't know if that's true.
He just went out to the sidewalk. I don't know
if that's true.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
They were yell yeah, They're like, he can't handle anything,
and is he gonna do this? Yeah? When like how many?
How many times a month? Is he going to do this?
When they have a disagreement, I don't know, is.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
He If I was his mom, I'd be very worried
about him signing up to be Baili's caretaker for the
rest of your life. I would. They didn't.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
They didn't seem worried about that at all.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
They weren't. They weren't. They were more worried about where
the bailing curses when she does her tics. He's like,
I don't who cares about that? If she's yelling fuck, Like,
that's not the worst thing that's happening around here. That's true.
So eventually they decide Colin has decided after he moved
in together he wants to get engaged. So he goes

(52:00):
to talk to her parents, who are like you can
see or like what the fuck is he doing here?
Saying he wants to have a conversation. Oh shit, I
don't want to do this, And so he talks to them.
They're just looking at him. He brings out this ring
that they make so much fun of, and it wasn't

(52:22):
very large ring.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah, it's a huge ring. It's like a huge oval,
like four carrot ring. And I'm convinced it's a lab
There's no way that's a real diamond.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
I don't It doesn't make sense if it's a mind diamond, right,
it doesn't make sense. Like where would he get that
money from? I'm here to tell you do people in
military do not get paid you like.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
No, And and lab diamonds have like become really really
popular because especially.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
For like influencer types.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah, and like women who really want to like show
off because you can get obviously a huge you know,
a huge rock for five thousand dollars. But that so
I used to I used to watch this lady on
YouTube who is an antithesiologist turned like beauty fucking YouTuber,

(53:12):
Like so she had a lot of money. And her
husband was also a doctor, and I swear to God,
every year she like upgraded her ring and she like
and they would like travel to New York to have it,
you know, made like they're very, very wealthy people. And
Balen's ring kind of reminded me of hers, And so
I was like, I was like this YouTuber girl that

(53:33):
I'm talking about the doctor. That ring was probably like
over two hundred thousand dollars. And that's not what Colin got,
you know what I'm saying, Like Colin got.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
The aren't the lab grown diamonds a little more sparkly too?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
They they do a good job with them. I don't know,
but you know, I just I don't think it's real.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
And also he had one of those boxes that have
the light.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
In it cheese ball.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Yeah, her mom was like, damn his own light. She's like,
did he get a small business loan? It just it
was a lot. It was a lot for what they
would be a young military couple. This is not the
type of ring young military couples have.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
So yeah, it's not even the type of ring you
would wear on a daily basis, because you'd be too
worried about someone like you know.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I don't know my wedding ring at all. I don't
wear it ever.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah, sticking you up and like taking it off.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Your that's part of it. Like I for the same reason,
I don't have like you know, I always want to,
like long stiletto nails like you know, like the bad
bitches have, you know, like I always wanted to. But
the fact is, I do too much with my hands,
and like my hands are always in something doing something
I don't want to, like flick one of my fucking
kid's eyes out like that sort of stuff. And when

(54:56):
I got married, I was a bartender, so I never
wore my wedding stuff at all. So I just never
got in the habit of it. I wonder, can you
put your hand in your pocket like you're right? Well,
stuff like that anyway, So they don't even really give
the blessing. The blessing is this if Balin thinks she
wants to get married, Okay, which is I think is

(55:17):
a good answer, such a cheesy thing to do. But
in their circles, and Colin was very confused about that.
But in their circles, this is what you do. You
go and you ask some one's dad. I would be
like so confused. If somebody came and was like, what
do you think about me marrying your kid? I was
like did you? I'd be like did you talk to them?
Like what? They say?

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
What if I say yes? And they said no, that's
fucked up. So what they incided is that she wants
to get married on the beach. She wants to get
engaged on the beach. And you have to fill me
in on this because I I got cut off at
the end here. I got all the way to the
first of all, they're like, we're gonna go to the

(55:59):
beach as a face family, just the eight of us. Sorry, Colin,
you're not invited. Why would you tell? Why would you
bring that up in front of him? It wasn't invited.
And then he invited himself so he could propose to bailin.
I got to the part where dad where he went
to go to where he talked to her dad and
was like wanting her dad to do like a slide
show about Yea, this is important. Okay, So what happened?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Okay, So the Dupree family was planning a vacation to
like Delaware. I'm guessing, like, is that a beach that
people go to like it's.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Cold, so maybe they did go to Delaware.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
I think it was something. I don't know. I'm not
an Eastcuse person, but I think like, yeah, one of
those places that the Potomac people go to. And right,
so they're kind of like, well, since Balen want her
dream would be to do this on the beach, that
kind of like it makes sense that you know.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
That, and they want all their families there.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, it was going to be a family trip, but
guess what, Colin's part of the family now. So so
they say, okay, So they get there, or maybe it's
actually before they go, I think Colin again wants to
sit down with the dad and meet him for a
drink and and talk to him.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
About Colin wants to meet him so much Rachel.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
I know, I know, the dad's so annoyed. He's like,
oh my god, Colin called, he wants to meet up,
you know, like whatever. So they go to a bar
and Colin says, you know, like as part of his
like you know, grand over the top proposal, he wanted
to put together some kind of you know, photo montage

(57:42):
thing about like you know, Baylin growing up and like
I think what he was trying to get at was
kind of leaving her dad and like now, you know,
giving her to this new man kind of thing. And
he wanted to highlight their relationship since the dad's so
important to Balin. And the dad was like, Colin, this

(58:03):
is your proposal. This isn't about me, This isn't about
my relationship with Bailin. I don't want to be the
focal point of it, and basically shot him down and
said like, don't do that.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Also, isn't the dad like, yeah, my relationship isn't going
to end with Bailey either, right, We're not doing that, yeah,
my daughter, right, And Colin was hurt.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Colin was he like had his tail between his legs
about it, because this was his big idea, you know,
about the proposal, and so he had to, right, he
had to go back to the drawing board with that,
and he did. But then it ended up being like
raining anyway, so they didn't even do it on the beach.
So they all got there and they set up like

(58:50):
an indoor It had a view of a beach, like
you know, the beach was there, but they ended up
inside like a hotel lobby kind of situation and should
I continue about the proposal?

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Yeah, because I didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Oh, you didn't see it.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
I didn't see it because I missed this thing.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I didn't Oh I didn't. I didn't realize that. Okay.
So yeah, so the whole family's there. The mom like
tricks her and says, we're gonna have some family photos taken.
So put on a nice dress and you know, get
yourself ready, and so they all like get dressed and
then they bring her down to this like lobby and
there's like a I don't know, like a arch or

(59:35):
like a balloon arch. I don't know, it's like flowers,
and they they really did go all out for this,
and Colin proposes to her. She says yes, but before
she says yes, you know, her tourettees like gets the
best of her and she's she screams like penis, you know,
like it was. It actually is pretty funny if you

(59:57):
go just watch that clip. She says like penis. She
says like fuck off, fuck you attap the penis.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Like she's just going yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Before she's able to actually say yes and accept the proposal,
and then she does, and then you know, they all
have a nice time, and they're at this vacation house
and the mom and the dad are like, you know,
everything all said and done, like everything went really well.
And then they have this lead up where Colin and

(01:00:30):
Baylin are like, well, should we tell them about, you know,
my relocation orders, and she's like, I think we have
to tell them, and they make it sound like there's
like some big thing coming. And so it's their last
day on vacation and they sit their parents down and
they're like, oh, we need to tell you about Colin's
relocation and they just are like, oh my god, what now?
And then Colin says, I get to stay. I don't

(01:00:52):
have to go anywhere. I'm staying right here, and then
that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah, thank goodness. And he's only got two and a
half more years unless he's gonna be like a career
like some people are. They do give you a signing bonus,
guys when you re sign like that's that's why some
people don't even intend to be career military people, but like, well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
In this economy and it might be better off just
staying in my mility.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah, Like even if you're like you, it's either stop
being in the military, go find something to do with
your like go find a job and stuff, or just
keep doing what you're doing and we'll give you like
five grand, what do you want. That's why some people
stay in the military. I don't know if it's five
grand now, but you know, it could be whatever. So
this is the majority of the season. The season is

(01:01:36):
about whether Balin can move out, whether Balen and her
boyfriend are gonna move on to do more. But there's
also part of the season that's talking about her getting
treatment for Tourett's and I found that to be more interesting.
I wish we got more of that. Uh huh. She
went to tit Coon, which is which was in Dallas.

(01:01:58):
That's when she was having all the issues at the airport,
and also didn't think about being on a on a
Southwest flight, screaming penis right, you know what I mean,
Like people are so people are so like on edge
in the airport, already on on planes already and oh
she also does you're done, You're done? She doesn't, and

(01:02:21):
so if you but that doesn't even sound like too wild.
So it just girl, you're walking by and she just
yells you're done, like you it's I don't know, some
of her tics. I would hear it be like, oh,
something's going on over there. I don't need to engage
in that. And some of her ticks I'd be like,
is she talking to me? Like?

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
What is right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Are we? Like? Even her flipping off like aggressively at people,
like I don't know. So she goes to Tikkon and
she ends up having I felt like in all the
previews like a seizure mm hmm. But it wasn't a seizure.
It was was it just an old overwhelming tick? What

(01:03:01):
what was that when she was on the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
I don't know, Like I think it's possible she kind
of like loses a little bit of control of her body.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Uh huh. You know it seems.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Caeser like for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Yeah, her mother was holding her on the ground and stuff,
and that came about because they had to get in
a car at three am. She's running around Ticcon, she
has to talk, she hasn't really eaten, she hasn't really slept,
and all these and I'm like, oh, well, this goes
back to the alcohol. Well, if you know that's gonna
like throw you off on one, then why why would you?

(01:03:39):
I don't understand why your mom who's not who's just
there with you, wouldn't get you food and make sure
you're eating and make and be like drink some water now.
And you know, like I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Don't minimize all of that as much as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
As much as pop do whatever you can. And so
she starts thinking about treatments. She she she's doing some
kind of therapy now, uh, like cognitive, I don't know, don't,
don't give me the fucking line. She's doing something some
therapy now. But they're thinking about having her do botox
m hm, because that can loosen the muscles that clinch.

(01:04:15):
Apparently when you have these ticks, it hurts because you're
doing the same movement over and over.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
She's, well, yeah, right, And so at Tikkon she also
she meets all these other kids with Tourette's and they like,
you know, she builds kind of a social circle and
they tell her like what's worked for them or what
treatments they've had. So part of the ticking there is
a physical aspect like where she like you know, does
something with her neck or her shoulder and and it, yeah,

(01:04:42):
after a while, it does it hurts, and the boatox
can paralyze I imagine the boatox probably really does help.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Yeah, because because it's it's getting right to that muscle.
And then they're talking about something where they put something
in her brain. What do they call a deep brain something?
I don't. It sounds scary to me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Well, there's a brain surgery. Yeah, and it's like deep
brain stimulation.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I think that's exactly what it is. And they put
something in their brain and it goes down to like
a pacemaker yeah. Yeah, and it's not FDA improoved no,
And but what it does work apparently you can get
fifty percent less tics.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
But she she's not interested in that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
I brain surgery. What if they if they clip the
wrong thing up in there and come out worse?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Like, well, I think that's what her you know, the
whole thing is Like, I don't. She's it's really scary.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
In terms of her Turets. How that affects her life.
Her life is greatly affected. But it's not the way.
You know, I was thinking about nexium right when I
was watching this, and how they had they had like
a Turet's program, remember.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Right right, they can cure it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Yeah, And like one of those guys that's still supporting
Keith is like it's the only thing that has affected Tourets,
like changed everything for him. And I was like, imagine
bailing it fucking mixed up with nexium looking for fucking
turetts like curs, Like, oh my god, yeah, this is
so fucking terrible. But that's I mean, that's how people

(01:06:24):
got mixed shit like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Yeah, but it seems like you get so desperate, yeah, help,
you'll believe anything, or like I mean, I was experiencing
like like midlife like hair loss, and like, you get
so scared about these fucking things that feel like your
identity and that you're so you know, attached to that

(01:06:47):
you'll try any fucking scam out there if it promises
it'll grow your hair. You know. It's the same kind
of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Yeah, I and Baling isn't even someone like I'm thinking
about people who have to work for a living, and
that's what I'm thinking aout. I'm thinking about people who
have to like go into their insurance job and be
able to function there. I'm thinking about people with like
four kids, you know what I mean, that have to drive,
They have to like they can't not drive balance not

(01:07:14):
in any of those positions, and so I can see why.
If I were in her position, I'd be like, no,
I don't wanted to cut over my brain so that
I don't have to take lifts. My mom's gonna drive
me anywhere, so it doesn't really matter. Colin's gonna drive me,
it's not gonna matter. So but I wish they did
more on that because I find that to be really interesting.

(01:07:37):
I think when they were talking when at Tikkon, that
woman was talking to her about how Turets is like
all these colmridies to it and it's like being in
the car with ADHD, OCD, your Turets and stuff, and
like who's driving today? But they're all there, And I
was like, oh, yeah, that sounds like fucking hell. That's

(01:08:00):
sounds horrible or overwhelming. That's what I want to say.
It sounds overwhelming, like who's driving today? But I wish
that we had talked more about that, because Therette's is
a lot like OCD and that like we know what
I don't know what it looks like, and something about
Mary or something like it's like some movie we saw,

(01:08:22):
like the fourty year old version or something, but not
people don't necessarily understand what it looks like day to
day and I thought we get more of that, and
I got I didn't get as much of that as
I wanted from bailing. I got a lot of like
conservative love stories. Is there anything else we didn't talk
about the bailing?

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Well, let me think.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I think so, I do want to mention. So Colin
went to go talk to her dad so many times,
and one time he had like six chainsaws talk yeah,
and and Colin was like, yeah, yeah, he's chainsaws and
he was telling me, don't hurt my baby. I was like, well,
hold on, Colin, he had those chainsaws. Where you came there,
he didn't even know you were coming. He was oily chainsaws.
It does Well, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
True because they live on a big property and they
have like a lot of yardwork to do and stuff.
But Colin, yeah, he just shows up. He just rolls
up and he's like, I'm here to talk to yeah today.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Her dad is better than I would then I would
have given credit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
For so in terms of reality show parents, they're they're
they're good, you know, like you know, they're better than
the Plaths.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Sure, absolutely, I don't think they wanted to be Do
you think this was they wanted a reality show for
their family, and it ended up being one about Balen.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I don't know, I really don't. I would like to
get to know the at least the little brother better.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Vicdel And it's feels so weird too, so it's like
Beckner Eye. It's into with an ir.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Yeah, it's b E C H and I R.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
And he talks about how he loves to curse and
how he hates it when little kids tell him don't curse.
Like he's like, this is the first time you heard
a curse word? Get out of here? Or they asked
him on this ideal woman and he's like, well, when
she's all grown and done, she's gonna be about five
to four. Like then he goes, could you delete that
because I don't actually want that to be on the show,

(01:10:30):
Like bros.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
There's also there's like a funny kind of break the
fourth wall aspect with this show because Baalen can't help
herself so like so one of the funnier scenes was
like one of the producers is bald Or the cameraman
was bald and when he came in to shoot that date,
she just looked at him and she was like, Okay,

(01:10:55):
I can't you're bald, and I can't not like say something,
and uh, you know, I have a tick about this,
and the guy's just like, just whatever you need to say,
just do it. And she was like, you're bob.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
There's a there's a she and Beckner really get along. Yeah,
And there is one where she starts talking about hemorrhoids
and he doesn't know what they are, so she tries
to explain it to him. He's like, oh uh. She
mentions that her entire family has ticks, though just not
what she has, huh, And I was like, that's interesting,

(01:11:27):
we should explore that more. Her sister has something on
her throat, like she had a tricheotomy or something.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Yeah, her sister was a big scar right in the
middle of her like the base of her neck, kind
of in her throat. But yeah, they never if they
mentioned it, I missed it. But I don't think they
ever mentioned.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
They just it's vague where Balen's like everybody in the
family has something and I'm like, are like, so I'm
trying to imagine them trying to get her family. Rallies
show Baylon has Tourette's sister has something that had to
do with she had cancer in her neck or something.
So and so has adhd so and so has. I'm
imagining like what the promo would be for that, but

(01:12:08):
it's very vague and they're not telling us this. I
I I hope so for season two, I hope we
get more of the other kids. I really want this
sister to do more talking. People think she's a bitch,
but I don't. Her and Balance seem very close.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
The problem is she lives somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
She lives in Ohio because she's in school, but we
know people don't. When we're femling around the TV show,
people just quit school. It's fine. So it's just stop.
I just feel like there's more to be said about
those years when Bailey went's in high school and they're
having to feed her and bathe her and stuff. There's

(01:12:47):
more to be said about why is because Beckner has ticks.
We watch Beckner. Beckner is like outside playing and is
saying something over and over again, and I was like, huh, see, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Why I like with him. I'm like, is this nature
or is this nurture? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
You think that might just be like he's like he's ten, Yeah,
he's like ten so right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
He's watched his sister get so much attention and positive
reinforcement for this, so you know that that would that's
I mean, I believe it either way, but like I
have questions.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
I have questions, but I did enjoy it. I did
enjoy the season. It was short, guys, it I it.
I watched it on Max. So was this a t show? Yeah,
it's on TLC, so you're gonna get your normal TLC
stuff where they where they're telling us the same shit
over and over again. That's gonna happen. But other than that,

(01:13:47):
I did find it fun and I was like, I
think Balen is a star. I think she you can
build that show around her for it'll be five six
years before excuse me, it might be three or four
years where they have to start making up storylines.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Yeah, I think I think it'll It has a few
more seasons in it. Do you have you ever watched
Thousand Pounds Sisters?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
No, but everybody tells me I should because I see
so many memes from it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
It's so good. I hate that it's good, Like I
feel like it's problematic to love it, but I I
think you would like it, like you have to start
at season one.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Okay, then somebody's husband or fiance die. Yes, okay, so
you just go let me watch that, Okay, cool.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Trust me, you're gonna be able to handle this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Okay. I when I stop watching this and I was
downstairs just eating with my kids and stuff. The show
Jay and Pamela or Pamela.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Yeah, I haven't seen that yet.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
It's about so there's two they're they're two little people.
They have a special like you know, being a little
person that could be like a million like different actual disorders,
but they have a disorder where they're like three four
each and they're engaged. They live in Jay's parents' basement

(01:15:13):
in their twin like hub A Rounds and Jay is
trans Oh. I did not find out at the end
of the first episode, and I was like, yeah, that's
interesting that you guys just like slid that in at
the end of the last.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
TLC find these people exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
I was like, TLC, this is super specific, Like it's
super specific, and they're like immigrants and they're also.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Yeah, I've seen clips, but I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Yeah, And I was just like, okay, like this is interesting.
They're engaged, they've been engaged for two years. Her family
is like it has to come from like I want
to say, Guatemala's them. And they also don't allow they
don't believe that Jay being trans is like of god,
you know, I'm saying. So there's that, and there's they're

(01:16:05):
they work in customer service, so they're.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Ohay TLC cast members, Like I know that this is
not true, but I just I think they deserve to
be of the highest paid, like in entertainment, because ye know,
corect these people are so unique, you know, like they
find them and then they exploit the shit out of them. Yeah,
and they can never look back, like once you've had

(01:16:30):
a TLC show, you can never go back to your
normal life. And like, I think they deserve all the
money because also half of them are disabled, so you
know they need money.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
They just comb like social media.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
I think that's probably what they do now. But I
wonder what they did before, you know, like it was
obviously as easy to find Bailin because she was a
TikTok star, But like I wonder before, like how they
found these people. I mean thousand pounds sisters those girls had.
They were on YouTube a little bit doing like I

(01:17:08):
think like some muckbangs and like some eating stuff and
just trying because they lived in like a big poverty
in Kentucky. And I think they're just trying to get
some money because they're on disability and they like were
so big that they couldn't leave the house kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
That's interesting because if on disability, if you make money,
they take it out of your next payment. You can't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
You could make some. I thought you could make some
to a certain point.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
Like my dad can can he's fully disabled at this
point that he can make a certain amount of money.
But you gotta be careful. You gotta because if you
go over, I think you gotta pay it back two times. Yeah,
And like my this isn't disability, but my aunt is
on like Social Security. So she works every year up

(01:17:54):
until like October and then can't get back to work
because she can't stually hit her a limit. Right, So
and if you make over a certain amount, you gotta
pay it back twice. So that's interesting that I okay,
So the and I wonder you think Balen's own social Security.

Speaker 2 (01:18:09):
I think that she probably is on some kind of disability,
like I think, because she's an adult and now that
she's on her own. I would imagine she is, but
but it depends like if her parents are wealthy enough
for her to just not need to bother I know,

(01:18:30):
but it also gives you know, but you also get
the luck, the you know, benefit of the accommodations that
go along with disabilities.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
So maybe maybe. And I also like part of the
reason people that are wealthy stay wealthy is they don't
say things like I'm gonna turn down a disability. You
know what I'm saying. Do you understand trying to say.
They don't go, I'm wealthy, so I don't need these
cue ponts, Like if something is available, they don't go, oh,

(01:19:00):
never mind, her dad works for the federal government, So
like I can see them being like, just as a
matter of like, just so you can you have money
to yourself, you have to apply for this and do this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
And yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Can see them saying that, not that she's gonna like
die if like she doesn't have your Social security exactly
like some people do. Literally some people do because they
can't get their disability payments or the can't get their
soci security or whatever. But yeah, back to tail C. Yeah,
I like I I can see you're right, like one

(01:19:34):
hundred thousand pound sisters on YouTube. You you see your
you see them on there, and you're like, I could
do a show around this, like and I probably don't
pay them much because they don't because look at where
they are. You know, they famously what they screw you
for three or four seasons right famously they're Yeah, I
mean like fifty dollars a show.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Yeah, Like, but I think they hook them up with
medical care, like like they send them to see the
other TLC doctors that deal with obesity and stuff like that.
So I think that stuff's probably comped.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Yeah, all right, Rachel, I think that's it. I think
we talked about Bailey enough. I'm excited to see season
two and whether she immediately tries to get pregnant, like
her dad is like worried about right when she got
that new tick, I'm pregnant, her dad was like, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Didn't she tell her sister like like Sammy's got crabs
or Sammy's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
She says it about her mom, her mom has crabs,
Like it's just something. It feels like these are just
like weird thoughts that we all have that go across
our mind. But she can't help but say them exactly. Yeah, Rachel,
tell the people where to find you if you want
them to find you, because normally like stay in secret.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Right, I'll just stay in secret until until until you
have me back.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Well, we have to come back because you told me
about this movie that like.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Is yeah wild you got. I can't believe you haven't
seen Forbidden Dance. That's shocking to me because I know
television raised you as it did me, and it was
always on and it always felt like as a kid,
like something you know you shouldn't be watching. And I know,
and I know you would have watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
This is before DVR. We just had to watch what
was happening.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Yeah, but maybe you didn't have the right chance. I mean,
I don't know what channel, Like that's possible. It was
sexy and it was just like you were like ooh,
like I'm so curious, and then you're like, oh my god,
if my mom walked in right now, I'd be so
embarrassed kind of thing. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
My mom never walked in. She was like she absolutely
was like do I have kids? No, Now, anytime my
kids are doing she's like, where are they going? Who
are you going with You've never asked me that a
day in my life, and I've literally your child. You
never asked me where I was. You'd just be like,
I guess she's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Yeah. Well, and if you ever do watch Thousand Pounds Sisters,
I would love to talk about it too, because a
Thousand Pounds Sisters is actually one of my one of
my passions, my passion shows.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
So get on your tombstone in your obituary, whatever her
passions was. Thousand Pounds Sisters. Yeah, I gotta get some
new shows, so definitely I'll have you back. Thank you
Rachel for coming on short notice and talking about crazy
stuff with me. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Thank you later, Okay bye