The Art of War

content warning: fatphobia, body checks, eating disorders, weigh-ins

Celebrity Fit Club, Season 7, Episode 5

This week, Princess spends 40 minutes talking about The Guilded Age and Just Like That...and then wants to know exactly how much Nicole is drinking on a weight loss show.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, Before we get started, I just want to
warn you this episode contains talk of fatness, okay, fat phobia,
diet culture, weigh ins, body checks, eating disorders. It's kind
of the nature of the show. So if any of
those things would make this a hard listen for you
and don't listen to this and I will see you
in the next one later. Hi, guys, Princess here and

(00:30):
welcome to another episode of by Pumpkin Original Flavor. So
we'll start off fairly strong with let's talk about the
bonus episodes. Guys, if you are only listening to the
episode on Sundays, you are missing bonus episodes. I do
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(00:51):
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(01:13):
get an episode, a bonus episode, And this past week
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(01:35):
I think it's more than worth it, and I hope
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(01:55):
Bonus episodes, and you can get the you can get
an extra episode each week, and you can also get
the Sunday episode at free. Think about it all right.
The other thing I want to talk about, I want
to talk about The Gilded Age. Every week I watch
The Gilded Age. By the time you receive this this,
the new episode will be out. But I'm talking about
episode two. I'm not talking about episode three because when

(02:19):
I recorded this I did not know I have not
seen episode three. It's unavailable yet. I just want to
say this. I know for a fact that many of
you are like, Bertha is so overbearing. Let Gladys choose
her husband. And I know why you think that should happen.
I know why you think that should happen. You think

(02:39):
that should happen because you think Gladys is a character
in this story and you feel for her. Guys, Gladys
is a tertiary character. Okay, she's an NPC. Okay, she
doesn't matter. Bertha is a character. That's the thing. You're
so used to watching these shows where the young woman
who just fresh fresh into this world is the character.

(03:00):
We're also society with her, right not this time. Glass
is not a real person, Okay, Bertha is the person.
Bertha is the person we should care about. And Glass
is getting in a way of her dreams. Okay, she
wants to be the mother to a duchess. Glass, keep
with the program that all jokes aside, Like, obviously, I

(03:20):
think Gladys should be able to pick her own husband.
I just don't think Gladys knows what the fuck she's
talking about. And as much as I hate to see
her sad, if she can't, if she is gonna lay
down and take it from Bertha, then she deserves what
she gets she's not a worthy opponent. One of the
reasons I love Bertha is because I love brassy broad's. Okay,

(03:42):
I love broads, you know, just women who are ballsy
and just show up places and are gunn and will
scheme to get an opera seat. Like I love that.
I love a woman. It's just like, actually, I don't
think I'm gonna play fair here. I love that shit.
I love it. And so that's why birth is close

(04:04):
to my heart. As far as Gladys is concerned, she
did do good by like being really dramatic running away
that that's a good that's a good thing. Like she
could have at least made a scene at Billy's mama's house.
You know what I'm saying, lay out in the street.
But I tell y'all last week, just lay on the ground.
Just lay on the fucking ground. Okay, just just Gladys.

(04:27):
You don't get in that fucking carriage, all quiet and
go home. Don't listen if you can't stand up, lattice,
you deserve what you get, all right. And the fact
is Billy isn't worth it. Billy and his mama told
my list, get an easier one, Okay, get an easier one.
All right, Shit, it's hard over here. You gotta work
for all this. You. I know you used to the

(04:53):
Honda Civics, but it's a Bugatti over here, right, So
that means you gotta have to do stuff. This is metric,
This is this is You're gonna have to work a harder.
You gonna you gotta get the premium gas. If you
want one of those little fixed her wrappers, a little
beat her a to b cars, Go get one, Go
get one and leave us Gotti's alone. Okay, leave us alone.
Fuck you billy, get out of here. And just as

(05:16):
far as like, I didn't know what was gonna happen
as quickly, and I have a feeling it's not over.
That's the thing. Like Gladys, when the Duke showed up
and you were like, oh, you're like a fish with
your mouth open. You should have fallen to the ground.
Refuse to come downstairs, tell me you're sick. You refuse
to see the duke. Girl, do it? Make Bertha come

(05:38):
to your room and be like girl, a little girl.
You gotta get dressed. Be like, listen, Bertha, you want
to duke, go mayry fucking duke. Okay, but let me
tell you what you won't do. You won't get me
downstairs selling me for a high price, like that's glad us,
stand up, sit up. Bertha will respect you for I
mean no, she won't, but will be like, okay, this

(06:01):
is an adversary for me. I need to play the game.
Do I think Bertha will disinherit like this own gladys
well girl. I don't know what Bertha will do. I
don't think maybe she will. But if I was Glass,
I run around to California so I can get a
spin off. But that's me. That's me. I what I'm

(06:23):
really like, I said, what I'm really looking forward to
is I'm looking forward to Richie Beardy whatever that man's
name is, the rich man that's married to Bertha, mister Bertha.
I'm looking forward to mister Bertha and Bertha having this
thing between them because you know, they're like I said,
they're like jay Z and Beyonce. Or let me take

(06:44):
that back. They're like jay Z and Beyonce. It's pr
what they want us to think they are. And so
they are worthy matches for each other. And like she said,
she's like, you're he's like you're not gonna let me
have a say in my own daughter's marriage. And she's like, yeah,
as soon as I come to the barroom and tell
you which railroad to make it like, I was like

(07:07):
tea Bertha period, tell that bitch like you got your
area and I got my area. I stand beside you.
You can make a fortune, lose a fortune, make it
back again. I stand beside you. I believe in you.
You believe in me, okay, believe in me. And so
what I'm really looking forward to is these two who

(07:27):
have been on the same page. I mean, when he
went out and borrow out that bizarre, I was like, Okay,
that was sexy, Like if I was there, it wouldn't
be sexy. If I was there, I was like, god
damn it, can we have a fucking bizarre. But in theory,
like watching I was like, it's sexy you buying everything
because they trying to be they trying to act funny
with your with your wife. You blackmailing people to take

(07:50):
your wife out six eyes. I love that. I love that.
I love a man whole black mail for his woman.
But like in theory, right, like watching it, not not.
I don't want to be black man. So, but but
I'm looking forward to seeing how this divides them, because
who's gonna win. He he defers to Bertha, and if

(08:13):
he doesn't what happens, then who knows? And then also
that means he's kind of like on Gladys's side, and like,
you're taking my side against another woman. I know it's
our daughter, but you're taking the side against another woman.
What the fuck is going on? And also Richie Beardy's like, listen,
I'm not gonna sell Gladys. Like I make this money
so I don't have to sell Gladys. I did this

(08:33):
so our family can be things. I don't want Glass
to be unhappy in the marriage. Now do I know
Glass is gonna be unhappy in the marriage? Listen, you
see what's happened to the blondie's mister Blonde and missus
blonde names. I don't know, uh, But in theory, Gladys
is not gonna be that happy in any marriage she
gets into at this at this time. I mean that's

(08:55):
maybe in twenty twenty five too. I don't know. But
in theory, I don't want glads to be unhappy. I'm
just saying you could probably be just as happy with
the duke as you could with Billy and his mama. Okay,
just depends what's the duke, like, like go go find Actually,
don't do that, because if you go, I was gonna say,
go get to know the duke, because if you get

(09:16):
to know the duke, birth's gonna be like, yes, my place,
she's gonna rubbing her hands together. My plan is coming together,
Like don't, don't glad, it's seriously, take to your bed,
fak take to your bed and refuse she can't read
the duke or to your room. That'd be improper. Just
just stay in your dressing gown. Wait, is a dressing gown? Pajamas?

(09:37):
I don't know. I don't read a lot of this
type of Like I do read this type of like
romance and stuff like that, but I'm just reading for
the sex scenes. So like I, it doesn't always sit
with me. So anyway, I don't know what a dressing
gown is. I think it's pj's. It might be, I
don't know. You get into your slip or whatever whatever
stuff you're not supposed to be seeing it, and you

(09:57):
get into that bed and don't get out. Don't get
out until the Duke is back across that fucking ocean. Okay,
that's what you do. That's what you do. I mean,
if you want to win, if you just want to
like be scared of mommy and like just do whatever
she says, then okay, keep doing what you're doing. You're
not doing enough. But like I'm telling you, Bird, it's
gonna respect you stand the fuck up. And I'd rather

(10:19):
Bertha respect me personally because I respect the bitch. Like Bertha,
She's like, I get to the top, however, I fucking
get there, okay, and don't you fucking question my methods
how I get here? You know what I'm saying. She's
very much. Jack Nicholson on the stand, and a few
good men. I eat my wheedies every day ten feet
away from the Cubans who want to kill me. He's

(10:41):
talking about like goat O Bay isn't an interesting? Like
if you guys look up how the US has Waantonmamo Bay,
It's very interesting. Why why they have that? Anyway? And
then Tom Cruisers like did you order the cold bread?
And Jack Nicholson is like giving his speech, Anna, how
dare you tell me how to sit, how to how
to keep you safe when I stand every day on

(11:04):
the fitt blah blah blah blah blah with a gun
and whatever. And Tom Cruise is like, did you order
col Red? Did you order cold Red? Like like Tom
Cruise is, Tom Cruise is doing a lot of yelling
about the cold Red and Jack Nicholson is giving the
speech of his fucking life, and Tom Cruises finally goes,
did you order the cold Red? And Jack Nicholson's did right?

(11:27):
I ordered the Code Rat And I do it again, motherfucker.
Actually that might be Samuel L. Jackson in to kill
a bucking but but I don't care. It's the same energy.
It's the same energy. Damn right, I killed him. I'll
do it again. That's that. Why why am I talking
about that? I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. I

(11:56):
don't know, but yeah, the Blondies that shit. I feel
horrible for missus Blondie, Like mister Blondie is going to
humiliate her for what, like seriously, in this day and time,
just have a mistress like he's he's to turn to
humiliate her. And I don't have any vice for her,

(12:20):
you know, I'm like glad to stand the fuck up
be a worthy adversary adversary Bertha, crush your enemies and
clear her door. Crush her and your husband if you
need to crush them. But I don't know what missus
Blondie can do because as her station in life, she's

(12:45):
only got like really one choice, and so I don't
know what to do. I told you, guys, I read
this like mystery novel setting about the same time. And
a woman believes her has been trying to kill her,
trying to frame her for a murder. Actually, and he
is because he's got a mistress and he's trying to

(13:06):
marry off for her. She's got money, he doesn't really
have money, and her dad has money, but her dad's
not giving none of them the money. And and she's
trying to get divorced from him, and it's so fucking
hard for the rules of the day, Like she's got
to prove he's he's unfaithful, and he's trying to prove
she's unfaithful, I mean, and her father is not with it,

(13:29):
and he cause he's like, no, I told you not
to choose that motherfucker, and you choose him, and now
you have to stay married to him for the rest
of your life, even if he's just gonna cheat on
you openly and stuff like, I'm sorry, that's what we do.
Like now, you just have to be married to him.
I don't know through some parties you're gonna be married
to him. Well, he's gonna keep cheating. I heard you kiss,
So you have to say married to him. So like

(13:49):
it's really hard, Like they try to get her committee,
like and her dad is in on that too, and.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
She sues for the divorce and it's so different than
the way we for divorce now. But she sues for
the divorce and there's like a jury that has to
give her the divorce, has to decide she is the
divorce and she and she like wins. I'm telling the
whole fucking plot. I've forgotten. It's like the House of
Rose Briers like that.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
And she wins. The the fucking the jury over and
they're like, yeah, you can have a divorce. You're right,
you can have a divorce. And like apparently back then,
if you get granted divorce on the idea of like
the other was unfaithful, Like they can keep them from
getting divorced, they can keep them from getting married anymore.

(14:37):
Like in that state it's not like now we're just
hop as keeping a jumper in another fucking state, like
not being able to get married in the state of
New York anymore. It will be a big fucking deal.
And like, so she wins her divorce. The jury is like,
she gets a divorce, we believe her, and the judge
bangs the gavils like looks at the jury and goes,
I can't believe you fail for this. This woman's womanly

(15:02):
wiles and he bangs a guy on and says, no divorce.
She goes to jail and sends her to the fucking
tombs since her recordsnment and no, the way she can
get out is if she agrees not to ask for
a divorce anymore, and her and the husband agreed to
be married. He comes down to the tombs and everything
was like are you ready to put this up? By it? Like,
just come on home, let's be married. Come on, come on,

(15:23):
I'm bringing crazy hands home. I promise I won't put
you in the hospital this week. We'll see about next month.
Like that's how she had like and so like what
I'm very curious about missus blondie, what she's gonna do
And what can she do in this situation in which
mister Blondie, whom she seemed to be very enamored with,

(15:45):
she seemed to be in a good marriage with. She
seemed to be very happy in her marriage. No, no, Glad,
is she paying attention? He probably was? He prought mister
Blondie used to be a sweet boy that meet her
at the servants entrance years ago. Uh huh uh huh.
I'm just saying like, and I believe this in twenty

(16:07):
twenty five, and I I and this is why I
don't care about shows like like are you the one?
Or what is it? Love Island? Because I do I
believe you probably got twenty or forty soul possible soulmates.
You got a lot of them, and it it's more
about how you do life. Are you willing to do
life together? How you view life? Like like, what's your

(16:33):
what's your what's your what's your opinion on dining out
of Chili's right? Like cause we gotta be aligned on that.
What How do you feel about children and your children,
how they raise them? How do you feel about the inland? Like?
There are lots of things like are you a bed rodder?
Because if you are a bed rodder. You cannot be
married to somebody who gets up at four o'clock in

(16:54):
the morning and works out. You just can't. And then
go to their their mastermind, and then and then and
then then climbs a mountain and then then has six
You can't. You can't be made in that person. You
guys are gonna hate each other, like I think it's
more about that. Are we compatible to do life together?
And so that's why I'm telling Gladys to get to

(17:16):
know the duke, because I don't know what's the duke.
Is a duke gonna be free to let you do
your thing? Like? Is the duke gonna have like six mistresses?
And if he is, can he keep that ship on
the road or is he gonna bring it home? Like
mister Blondie, what's he doing? I don't know. I don't know.
And also I'm very curious if mister Blondie gets remarried

(17:37):
to that widow. Is she a divorce a? I don't know.
To the mistress, h is Agnes gonna bring her to
her house? Are we seeing her in public? I don't
think that's I don't think that's the thing. Remember when
Jean Tripplehan was on the show. They wouldn't even let
her go into the stores and shit, she was like
the scarletter lady. They they was like if she came
into to an event, everybody went to one side of

(17:59):
the event. Is mister Blondie gonna get away Scott free
with this is the question I'm asking. I don't know.
I am looking forward to. I'm still enjoying Marian, Marian
and Larry. I only know those names because Liz text
them to me. Again, I don't know nobody's name on this.
I don't know who that clocky man is downstairs building

(18:19):
a watch or a clock or something. I know Peggy
can shoot a black one. And uh, I'm gonna say
I said this last year. I'm gonna say this shit again.
It is wild that aunt Agnes wild that they wrote
this show in which aunt Agnes is so against any
change whatsoever, so conservative, like is a is appalled in

(18:43):
the street because new money is out here and is
not racist. That's wild, That's not That's not a thing, okay,
ship Racism is people often have people whose lives are
not are not affected negatively by racism, often having do

(19:08):
not understand what it actually is. They think racism is
someone burning crosses on your lawn and that is it, right,
And they think it's being winched in the streets and
that is it. But in my experience, I find and
so they'll say things like racism is so bad in
the South, it's so black people in the South should

(19:29):
move for the No, no, they shouldn't, because well they
shouldn't they want to. But I'm gonna tell you this
now that in most of my life has been lived
in the Southern States, and I'll say that that racism
is very different than the type of racism I've experienced

(19:51):
in more metropolitan northern cities. Okay, And the fact is
that those racists will be up front with you, they
will be kind to you and still and still be racist.
It doesn't matter how nice they are to you, they
are racists. And when I've experienced it in more northern cities,

(20:15):
what goes on is people think that they're not racist.
They do racisms, but because they don't have a Confederate
flag on their car, they think it's not racist. They're
just like, well, I was a little nervous when you
were walking past my house. It doesn't matter that you're
a black person. Yes, you know it was because you're black,
but that's not I'm not a racist. They think that

(20:37):
because they don't identify as racist, the things they do
aren't racisms. And it's worse, Actually, it's worse. Like I said,
the most I've told you guys this before, the most
I have been pulled over for driving while black has
been in New York City so many times, cops pulling over,
asking me and leaning into the car saying, hey playble

(21:00):
to my husband Lane, So how you speak to somebody
that you and asking us have we ever been to prison? Like,
if we've been to prison, are you gonna send us
back right now? For no fucking reason. I have never
been spoken to like that in my life. As I
was walking again during stopping first time, I have never
been spoken to like that in my life. And like

(21:21):
I said, I live most of my life in the South.
People's perception of what it's like to be a black
person in this country, living under racist times and around
racist people is so interesting when you do not have
that experience, like they really think that I could that,

(21:42):
Like if I just move to Michigan, it'll be okay. No,
it won't it'll actually be worse. So I think it's like,
but when I think of aunt Agnes, aunt Agnes would
absolutely be the type of woman who would not let
a black person in her home. She would not let

(22:04):
Mary and walk around with Peggy. That would be crazy.
Would she donate to the to the Negro school, Yes,
she would, because she wants those people to do better
for themselves, because you know, their brains aren't as developed
as those white people. That's a type of shit you'd be.
She'd be on guys, not this well, I just thought
good manners. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's so crazy

(22:28):
they wrote her like this. And and Liz is always
saying that she wishes Peggy would get a spin off
so that they could, like, we could really like delve
into Peggy's side of town and Peggy's stories and they
not be crammed in with everyone else's. And I agree.
I feel the same way about the the servants stories.
They're crammed in. To me, I'm like, Okay, I don't

(22:50):
even know who this is. We can use a lot
more space in the show. And I don't think Julian
Fellows is the person to be writing these black characters
or to be presuming these black characters to us. But anyway,
I'm I'm guilded age Bertha high stand up. So see,

(23:11):
I'll have to watch episode three. I will not watch
episode three till Monday because that's when I watch it,
and I'll have to see what happens. But I don't
think that Billy situation is going away. And I think
something's going on with the Duke. I think the Duke
is broke. I think the Duke is not a duke.
I think the Duke is already married in two other countries.
I think something's going on with that duke. You know,
a dude don't just show up, you know what I mean.
So I have to see Billy was supposed to go

(23:34):
talk to Richie Beardy and just didn't. Just didn't. Like,
he's not good enough for you gladys. And Bertha can
see that. I don't know the dude's good enough, but
we'll have to see. Oh and let's do mine in
just like that corner princesses, and just like that corn
do Do Do do do dooo? Okay, they fucking with guys,

(23:58):
they fucking with us. Rachel sent me a text. I
always forget to watch and just like that. To be honest,
I forget what day? What day is it on? I forget?
But Rachel sent me. She shows to me a text.
She's sent me a text. It says, uh, ltw's daddy
died twice. And I want you all to know, I
have never in my life considered whether LTW had a

(24:19):
daddy as far as I concern, she don't have no
fucking daddy. And then I go and watch some tiktoks
and she did have a daddy. He died already and
it was played by Billy d Williams. I was like, fuck,
I think I remember this, dude. That's how, that's how.
What's not cocking to you? What's not cocking to you? Guys?
I'm standing on business here, all right, it's not clocking

(24:41):
to me. I do not fucking know. I was like,
did ltw's daddy die twice? And I'm sure somebody out
there will be all this is plain this to me.
I was like, So, here's the thing. When you have
like a book series or or TV show or anything
where you have to keep track of a lot of
storylines and a lot of details about characters. If you
have a show, bible or series Bible if it's a

(25:04):
book series, and you not always the writer, I mean,
what's your budget, but maybe an assistant if you're if
you got some money, or maybe somebody on production, like
a lower person on production. It just depends on what
the situation is. Somebody keeps the Bible, and what they

(25:24):
do is when ltw's daddy dies, they write down her
daddy's dead. Now, if LTW has like a storyline in
which she loved blueberries, they put in the Bible she
loves blueberries, so that later on when you try to
write that she's allergic of blueberries and if a blueberry
go in her mouth she'll die. Like you can check

(25:47):
the Bible real quick and be like LTW, this is
what she looks like, this is where she lives, and
somebody she weighs, blah blah blah like this is the
character description, and she's allergs of the blueberries, so we
gotta get that blueberry out of the That's it, And
long ring shows you really need these things. I told
you guys, I was reading like a a ten book

(26:10):
series of a mafia romance. By the way, these dark
mafia romances, I fucking realize, what why I like them.
They're V. C. Andrew books. They're V. C andrew books.
Everything is everything that's fucking happening in them. It's like
prime serial, Oh fucking Telenovella's it's wild stuff. People got

(26:34):
guns in the church, all kinds of shit. It's it's, it's, it's,
it's it's v. C. Andrew books with violence. Well. V
c Andrew But like, like me'sa Sopranos, but it's not
always a Sopranos. It's like a Russian mafia, the Irish mafia.
I think I'm reading I'm I'm on one that's got
British mafia in there, like they just make up it's

(26:56):
not it's not all the Italians. But I read one
where the woman was engaged in arranged marriage and then
the father and she was supposed to get checked out
and make sure that she's the virgin before they signed
the marriage. They signed the engagement contract. So now she
belongs to that man and you know, and so there

(27:18):
she's going to the doctor just make sure everything's okay
for her marriage, which is happening. She signed the contract,
she found out she was getting married on like a Tuesday.
She getting married in two months she goes to the doctor,
and her new father in law has paid off the
doctor so that he can sneak in in there and

(27:39):
sexually assault her, like like, rapes her right, and he's like,
I'm just making sure you're a virgin. That's why I
have to rape youm she tells her parents. Her parents
are like, I cannot believe you let the Coppo rape
you do You're fucking crazy. Now the families will not
be aligned or whatever. You've got to get married anyway.

(28:00):
Her husband finds out on his wedding night and vows
to avenge her because she belonged to him at the time.
And she eats and I don't know. They fall in
love as she recovers from her PTSD from being sexually assaulted,
you know, and her parents don't. Her parents are basically like,

(28:20):
you gotta stay married. We don't give a fuck. He
lies when they have to go out and do the
is she a virgin and stuff, He's like, Yep, she's
a virgin. She blah blah blah blah blah. He lies
for her because he cares for her, and he swears
to avenge her and later ends up killing his father
by faking a heart attack by using a special drug

(28:41):
that I don't know that he and the rest of
the mafia are making in addition to the regular drugs
I don't fucking know, And so he does that to
avenge her. They fall in love. They're already married. They
fall in love. They they want to have a baby.

(29:03):
They get pregnant. They're so excited. They go to doctor.
The doctor says, hold up, wait a minute. You guys
have been married eleven weeks. This baby is fourteen weeks. Horror,
it's from the rape. And they have decided what to do.

(29:25):
And then and they go through and they're like, can
we be together? Can we be in love? Cool? Can
we do? What can we do? And they decide that
she's gonna because she loves this baby already. She's like,
I cannot terminate this pregnancy. I wanna be a mother.
And the and the son, and the husband who has
killed his father decides he will love this child as

(29:45):
if it's his own. He doesn't give a fuck, and
they embrace and they're together. It's gonna be fine. Guess what,
She has a miscarriage to meet even after that. Two
pages later, miscarriage. This is a VC Andrew's book. Okay,
that's what I say to myself. That's why I'm enjoying
them so fucking much. Because it's just drama and incests,
babies and abuse and PTSD and people running away and

(30:07):
the abuse on top of abuse on top of trauma.
That's what it is. I'm reliving, like being under the
covers in the ninth grade, uh, being in and reading
when my parents take them to sleep, and like being
in Earth Science in high school the next day and
like cannot deal because I am so worried about the

(30:28):
characters in this book and how they're gonna get like
you know what's gonna happen. But I was saying, I
was just talking about the Bible, the show, or a
serious Bible. The the I read a ten book series
in which all of the main characters, the main female

(30:48):
and main male characters, have some sort of disability. Like
I'm talking prosthesis, I'm talking about burns over ninety percent
of their body. I'm talking one had his eye like
ripped out with a spoon shit, and like another one
has an eating disorder or this other one of the

(31:09):
dudes had schizophrenia and he was in love with a
woman who had OCD, like like, I swear the fucking
got and they were written really well. I was normally
in a romance, a disability exists so that the love
of the main characters can overcome the disability. In every
single one of these the everybody whoever had disability or

(31:31):
or a long term illness or a mental health disorder
still had it at the end of the fucking book.
And so I was very shocked by this. But it
was a ten book series, and what would happen is
is you would read a scene through one book and
if and if the character was like if there is
a side character it was too much in that scene,

(31:52):
they're probably they were probably gonna be in the next book.
And then when you read the next book, you will
also read the scene, but from that character's point of view,
because there they're connecting the story through those scenes. And
I was like, they have a hell of a series, Bible,
because how did they write this? Like they didn't. I'm
reading them straight through and I'm busting them out. I'm

(32:13):
reading two books a fucking day, Okay, so it's all
fresh in my fucking mind. There. I didn't see one minute,
one moment. I didn't see one fucking misstep where there.
I was like, Nope, that actually didn't happen. No, they
got it all right. I was like, they must have
a series, a hell of a fucking series bible, because
how else are they keeping this shit together when these books,

(32:35):
I mean I found the books the last month or so.
Those books came out over the course of a couple
of maybe three years or so, so like, I don't
fucking know. And these are and they're they're pretty long
in terms of romance novels too, They're pretty they're pretty long.
So girl, I don't know, I don't know where where
where's the budget on in just like that? And and

(32:58):
I know Sarah Jessica Parker says she did and watch it.
But maybe if you leave them fucking wardrobe people alone
about the wardrobe and shit, they could afford somebody to
have a serious bible. Because somebody, please explain this to me.
Ltw's daddy did not die twice. Tell me that didn't happen.
This is too expensive and too high profile of a
show for them to make a mistake like that. Okay,
this is not Passions, all right, Passions wouldn't do that

(33:21):
to us. This week uh This week, uh Aiden and
Kathy send their son off to a wilderness treatment program.
I was like, oh, oh, y'all didn't google that shit. First?
They're like, well, why it wants to go? I don't

(33:42):
know why. It's fourteen and a little and I don't know.
I don't think we should just do whatever why I
wants to do. But okay, I was like, ah, unfortunately
he didn't go. I was like, have you seen the
Parents Hilton documentary? Do you guys know about these teen
wilderness programs? Do you know about these things? Did y'all
do any research? Did you open a pamphlet? Did you

(34:05):
did you go to Reddit? Did you check Reddit? Because
Reddit has a lot to say about it? What about
the documentaries on HBO? Have you tried? Have you seen some?
I don't know. They said they checked it out. I
don't know. I don't know. I don't know if that's
wh why it needs to be, why it needs I
think why it needs his ADHD meds and he probably
needs other types of meds. Although I'm not a fucking psychiaticist,

(34:27):
I don't fucking know, but I if I had to guess,
I would say why it needs his ADHD meds, and
he needs other types of meds, and he probably needs
intensive therapy. And it doesn't have to be like I think.
I think Aiden and Kathy are really concerned about it
being about it being, you know, their fault. It might

(34:48):
be it might not be the thing about good parenting.
And this is something I have to tell myself over
and over again. It is not about getting everything right.
It's about what you do when you get it wrong,
because I will get it wrong over and over again.
I make mistakes every day, just like my children do.
How do we handle it when we've made when we

(35:08):
fucked it up? What do we do next? How I
feel about my parents There are many things that they
fucked up, but I still have a very good relationship
with them because the way that they handled it when
they are alerted that they fucked something up. And I
think that so I don't actually don't know if you

(35:32):
know what it's the youngest, I don't know what I
don't I don't know if if it's quote unquote Aiden
and Kathy's fault. It might be. It might be, but
it might not be. Too Sometimes it's just the luck
of the luck of the draw. And I think that
that you should know that if you're planning on having
children any way, if you're planning on giving, like making
them biologically, adopting them, taking it on step children, that like,

(35:57):
it's the luck of the fucking drawing. You don't have
no control over what's what. You have to take them
as they are, and some of that shit is like
just how it's gonna be, and some of it you
fucked up, and that's why they're like that. But it
doesn't it actually doesn't matter because how it got there
doesn't matter. What matters is what you do next. But
apparently Whyatt had a fit and didn't get on the plane,

(36:21):
or maybe he did get on the plane because because
Aiden does go to visit Carrie, But Whyatt it was
so hard and Kathy and the matter hard time that
they end up sleeping together. Now, I want you to
know that when he's told Carrie that, I was like, okay,
Like I did not give a fuck at no point.

(36:43):
I was like I'm just like all right, whatever, whatever
man and Carrie said the same thing because she was like, well,
we agreed that we wouldn't be together for five years,
you know, we're gonna sleep with other people. And I
was like, Carrie, I don't remember you saying that. The
way you have been presenting this to me and Miranda
and See and Charlotte and everybody else is that you

(37:06):
are gonna wait for Aiden for five years. That's that's
what I thought was happening. Is that not? Did I
miss it? Did I miss the part where Karen was like, yeah,
but I can fuck who I want, you know, because
that makes a lot more sense then I'm gonna wait
for Aiden for five years. It makes a lot more
sense to be like, oh, okay, Aiden can't really Aiden

(37:29):
can't be in this relationship right now. So that's cool.
We'll see each other. When we see each other, you know,
we'll do our thing. And then when Aiden is ready,
I promised to give him a shot. That is very
different than what I understood to be happening. And even later,
when Aiden's like I'm gonna go home, She's like, you
are home? No, no, no, he's not at home. This

(37:49):
is not his home. He doesn't live here. He lives
in Virginia. Don't ask me where he lives in Virginia.
I don't want to get caught up on that again. Okay,
some TikTok girl fixed it for me, and I felt
better about now and I don't want to go back there.
But he lives in Virginia. He doesn't live here. I don't.
But apparently Aiden too, Aiden was under the impression of

(38:10):
the impression I had, because he's like, no, I broke
it and I did this and this, and Carr's like, no,
it's fine, don't worry about it. It's cool. I understand.
You know, Big still live. It probably would have fucked him.
And I was like, yeah, she probably would have if
she did like she did so like so, don't don't
sweat it. Don't sweat it like I and and and

(38:31):
the way carry reacted, I too was like, yeah, we
don't care what you're doing in Virginia. Aiden, We don't
because this is not real, this is not an important thing.
We don't care. Go ahead and go ahead, do that,
go ahead, do that. But apparently it matters. I don't
fucking know, girl, I'm so stressed. I saw a TikTok
video with someone said Aiden is very boring and he's

(38:52):
only interesting when he has his foil Big around and
Big is dead. And I was like, yeah, that that
only mattered to us because there was a full it
doesn't have a foil anymore, and so who cares? Who
really fucking cares? And that same TikTok video said, Hey,

(39:12):
like when we find it much more interesting? What it's
like is Carrie as a woman in her fifties dating
who has a shit ton of fucking money. What does
that look like? Now? She's got to date people, and
she's also gotta be like careful, and she's like people
are trying to get her into Ponzi schemes. You know
what I'm saying, Like what what? What if Charlotte needs

(39:36):
some money and Carrie, are you gonna give her the money?
Like you wanted her to give you the money? Like
that'd be fun? What other things could she do? I
wanted to fuck the writer she will, I think, but
go ahead and fuck him. I don't go ahead fuck him.
That doesn't matter either. His Lisa's almost up to who cares?
So I want to see Carrie book bomb. I want

(40:01):
to see Carrie Carry's book bomb bad. And I want
to hear her talk about what it's like being a
well known writer and having decent titles underneath your belt
and then your shit bombs. And basically the reviewer said
something like, you know, her husband died and so did
her talent. I don't know, but these are more and

(40:24):
Aiden's not interesting without big And also he broke that window.
Why is he throwing petals? Y'all are so dumb? And
he broke that window. And and suddenly Carrie don't have
no fucking shoes on. All last episode he was running
around these fucking shoes on. You couldn't take them off.
It's dirty to wear shoes in the house. But I
do understand. I have a sensory issue that sometimes I

(40:46):
have to wear shoes in the house. But that's filthy.
That's a filthy thing to do. And also, why are
you just at home in a Parry Hill just running
up and down the street, running up and down the stairs.
Why are you doing that? That's weird, girl, that's weird.
Suddenly you take your shoes off. There's glass everywhere wild. Yeah, yeah,
that's how I feel about that. I swear to god.

(41:09):
I was does LTW have two dads? That's what happens.
She has two dads. And then when Aiden was like
I saw with Kathy, I was like, Okay, that's fine.
Whatever seems good. It seems fine. Miranda in this fucking
apartment search. Miranda, Baby, you are homeless. You are one

(41:33):
of the unhoused of New York City. Get a place anyway, girl,
it's been forty minutes. Oh my god, let's talk about
celebrity fake Club. We're on episode five of season seven.
We're halfway through the season. We're almost done. I think
there's only four more episodes of this season, and this

(41:54):
one's called The Art of War, Easy Reasons. This week,
Harvey asked the crew if they have read the Art
of War Bobby Brown and Nicole Shit. Nicole cheron'sing the
the cole Edgert said they have. I don't believe Bobby
Brown because Bobby Brown, as I've told you over and over,

(42:15):
I don't believe Bobby Brown can read. I don't believe
Bobby Brown can read very much. Then signing his name
in street numbers, I don't. I just don't. Uh. He
was a child star, he was on tour, being dropped
off at high school and shit like he was he was.
He was taking care of his entire family in high school.
I do not believe Bobby Brown, will I know. I

(42:37):
don't believe Bobby Brown is a scholar, and that isn't.
There's a lot of road between being able to functionally
reading a scholar. But like I said, when I listened
to him do his his his uh biography, it sounds
like it's the first time he ever read anything in
his entire life. So I don't believe he read The
Art of War. I believe he may have been around

(42:59):
that book but not read it, like like got the
book gifted, it just didn't finish reading it. But it
makes sense that Bobby has experienced with that book and
then the Cole experience with that book, because that book
fits very well into like a whole tepee hustle culture.
You've got many hours in the day is beyondceay like

(43:23):
that sort of if somebody would tweet something like that
out that that art of world makes sense in there.
And these two definitely fit that, Bobby ron being on
the whole tep side and Nicole Eggert being on the
you've got the things just as many hour hours in
your day is. I don't know Ellen, I don't know
who Nicole Eggert would look up to. Harvey says that

(43:47):
if you read this book, there's nobody you cannot win,
and to that, I want to know what if you
read the book and your opponent reads the book, who's
gonna win the battle? Because that's exactly what's happening in
that is they give them the book and and they're
all supposed to read it. I do think they probably
dog here some pages and they didn't expect them to
read that whole book. Like I want to be clear

(44:09):
that Art of War is not a big book, and
it is possible for you to read that book in
an afternoon. But I don't think they had an afternoon.
And I don't think these people read books like that
in an afternoon. And this is not like a snobby
thing like right, oh, I don't think these people read. No,

(44:30):
that's not what I'm trying to say. I'm saying that
reading quickly is a for comprehension is a skill, right,
It's not a character. It's not a character like development,
you know what I mean, Like like getting up early.
If you can get yourself up very early and get

(44:52):
your day started, it's not a morality thing. It is
a skill that you couldn't learn. Some people are more
predisposed to it. Not There's a guy on here on
TikTok that always talking about basically being social. And he's
a bigger guy with a lot of hair and a ponytail,
and he's a bit of a nerd. And he talks
about how he started meeting people in person, and he

(45:15):
talks about that, and I enjoys content because he gives
practical advice. And he is talking to people who are
not traditionally attractive or not neurodivergent. He's talking to He's
not talking about people who can just like walk in

(45:36):
a room and just start talking to people. He's talking
about everybody else, and especially when we're in this epidemic
where people are scared to speak to each other in person,
and everybody wants community, but nobody wants to be in
a community. Everybody wants a village, nobody wants to be
a villager. Everybody feels isolated. That sort of thing. He
is talking to the people who are having all our time.

(45:56):
And something he says all the time, which I is
that understanding how to talk to people in small talk,
Understanding how to approach people and have conversation is a skill.
You might not be predisposed to the skill. In fact,
you might be. You might depending on who you are

(46:20):
and what you got going on. You might be better
or worse set it than others, but that doesn't mean
you can't develop the skill. And you know how like
if your kid is nine and wants to play basketball,
you're like, should I wanna play basketball? I mean, they're
not gonna be Lebron James, Okay, but not everybody is
Lebron James and they still enjoy basketball. It's just a

(46:45):
skill set that you develop and you get better at
it the more you do it, and if you enjoy
doing it, that's one thing. Yeah, YadA YadA. Not everybody
can be Lebron James when it comes to social interactions,
but you can develop skills and get better and if
you want to, and if you don't want to, that's fine,
but don't say you can't because you could. And then

(47:07):
people will be like, I have autism. There's no way
I can I can ever speak to anyone ever, And
he does like he's like that's not true, Like you
may not be able to do it perfectly, but you
could get better. Or someone will be like small talk
is horri bla blah blah, and he will talk about
He'll be like, small talk is a way for you

(47:31):
to get to the interesting stuff. It's a socially acceptable
way for us to speak to each other and get
to where we are really having a conversation. And then
he'll break it down. He'll be like, you can do
two you can this is how you interest so, this
is how you maneuver away from small talk to real conversation.

(47:52):
And he'll be like, you want to say this, you
want to give them two facts a question, Listen to
the question like he's really good to explain it, and
I really so That's That's one of the reasons I
really enjoy his videos because although I am not a
person who I I guess I do have a little
social anxiety. My brother's here and like my parents want

(48:16):
me to bring like my entire family over and his
whole family's over there, and then there's a graduate like
there's so much shit to do, you know, and I'm
just like, I don't want to be right anybody. I
do have those feelings. I am technically an introvert, but
I am not a person that's scared to go places
and speak to people and do things right because I
just I've never had a choice. I just had to

(48:38):
I just had to figure out how to make that work.
For me, I do understand being socially awkward and stuff.
But the more you do it, the more you'll get
better at it. And that's almost anything. It's not a
morally good or morally bad thing. If you are bad
at social interactions, that's not how I should be talked about.
It should be talked about it as a skill level.
What do you need to know to be better at this?

(49:00):
If you want to get up early in the morning
and you can, that doesn't make you a good person.
If you are a neat person that keeps all your
things neatly in ordering your desk it's beautiful, doesn't make
you a good person. It's not morally good. It just
means that you know how to do that. And there
are other people who either have mental health disorders or

(49:21):
quirks if you want to call it whatever that make
it harder for them to do. That doesn't mean they can't.
It just means that they need to learn the skills
in a different way and they don't have to be perfect.
They could be. They could be at sixty percent and
that could be great. That could be enough. Am I sorry? Oh,
I'm talking about like talking about whether somebody is good

(49:43):
at reading and whether that makes them a good person
like it doesn't. And as a voracious reader, I I
don't think that. I can't say I've always known that
that doesn't make them a better person because I definitely
don't like to be around people who don't read. I
will say this. The older I've gotten, the more I've

(50:04):
realized that a lot of the things that people associated
with success are being good and stuff are just skill sets.
And either you know how to do those skills and
they're because they're useful to you, or you don't know
how to use them and you're trying harder, or you
don't know how to use them because you don't need them,
and it's it's not good or bad do you're write?
A lot of this is just like just is anyway,

(50:29):
Uh Jay is having trouble with Bobby Brown because he's
sleeping instead of reading, which tracks and and it's not
as best skill. Okay, all right, if we were talking
about pelvic thrust, he could do it. So when we
say everyone should be at their best and highest use,
all right, that's a that's a thing that like when
you're talking about being efficient, when you're talking about systems,

(50:50):
which is my jam. When you're talking about making making
sure things get done, or making or making things work
as easily and as efficiently as possible, you want everyone
at their best and highest hues. If somebody is if
if we have five people here and the toilet needs
to be fixed, and only two of them know how
to fix the toilet, and we also need some people

(51:12):
to rake leaves, but all five can rik the leaves,
We're not gonna We're not gonna have one of the
people who can fix the toilet raking leaves. We're gonna
put them at their best and highest use. We're going
to say, at this point, the best use for you
is for you two to go in here and try
to fix this toilet, because only the two of you
can do that. Everyone else can rake leaves because because

(51:35):
that's their best and highest use at the moment, and
eventually and then at some point someone needs to make
mashed potatoes. Okay, well there's one person here who's a chef. Okay,
well they could rake leaves, but their best in highest
uses to go make the fucking mashed potatoes. Like, it's
important that we put place people where they can they
can be the most effective, and it's when it comes

(51:56):
to reading. That's not Bobby's best and highest use. Jas
sick of holding Bobby's hands and acting like a mother
or kindergarten kindergarten teacher and saying, come on, Bobby. And
I laughed because that's what he sounded like last week
when he was like, hold my head, Bobby, let's go.
I was like, Oh, you sound like a kindergarten teacher.
You sound like miss Rachel. You sound like can you

(52:17):
say mom? Like that's what you sounded like. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's exactly you, not like you talked to Bobby. All right.
So now they're going to the challenge. They're at a pool.
The pool does not like it's been cleaned in a while.
I'm out, like, I'm out pools. Pools are booty water. Okay,
there's just a bunch of booties in water. By the way,

(52:42):
all of my kids have now officially passed their swim tests.
They can swim unassisted, which means I don't have to
get in the pool anymore. I don't because before because
we go to the pool of the YMCA pools before
it would mean that if they did had not swim test,
that meant or they were thirteen and above. Thirteen above

(53:04):
doesn't have to and it's because of the height in
the pool. Like, if you're thirteen year above, you likely
can stand up at every area of the pool of
that of the outdoor pool the indoor pools like for
laps and shit, so you probably can't stand up it
every but anyway, so if you haven't passed a swim test,
you either need to be on the splash pad or
you need to be an arms length of your adult

(53:27):
who's there with you. So that will mean I would
have to get in the fucking pool. Now since all
of my children have passed the swim test, my two
little ones finally passed it. I doesn't mean I'm not
gonna keep an eye on them, because come on, who
you fucking talking to. Yes, there are lifeguards here to
do the job and stuff, but they will do their job.

(53:47):
But my responsibility to watch after my children. And so yeah,
even when I was in the pool and I have
to be in arms length of my little ones, I
was still like on a swivel, still like looking for
my older ones and making sure they were okay. And
even though they're all tall enough to stand in the water,
but still I don't know, and so I will still
be supervising, I will be close to the water, I

(54:10):
will be looking, I will have my eyes on my children,
but I don't have to get into the booty water anymore.
So I'm very excited about this. No, like I really
have to do mind over matter to be like, yes,
people are urinating in this water, It's okay. For instance,
you'll be able to wash it all. And now I
can go back to where my mind usually likes to be,
to be like how much this is like eighty percent

(54:30):
uron right, this is eighty percent Arron, Okay, check in
it's it's not my kids, because I don't for in fact,
my kids will be like, I've got to the other
this pool, I've got to pee, thank you. So y'all
check y'all children that pissing in the pools anyway, anyway,
so there at this pool has been cleaned recently. Tanisha

(54:55):
still can't fucking swim, And it's really interesting that she
says I don't swim. Now I can't swim. I was like,
can Tanisia swim? I know Sebastian told us she had
never even been on a boat. But I think you
just made that shit up. Can Tanisia swim she can't?
Is it that she isn't that she does know how
to swim and she's afraid she's gonna die, or if

(55:16):
she afriend of the water and has had experiences in
the water and probably could like float or swim very
badly in the water, but does not want to, like
it's like freezes up when she gets in the water.
I don't fucking know. I'm starting, I'm starting. I'm starting
to be a conspiracy there is I think Tanisia might
be able to swim. So they're doing the thing where

(55:41):
they have the jousting sticks, and what they do is
they have the two women on each team come out
the jousting sticks. They're supposed to fight it out, and
they're supposed to push the others in the pool, and
they're supposed to run to the other side and get
the flag and bring it back. There are three flags.
They will do round up the round women and men,
women and men until one side has three flags. Okay,

(56:03):
they go right in there with the women starting first.
Casey throws Nicole right in and shar deals with Casey
throws her in, and then she sends Tanisia into the
to the water. Tanisia is screaming help, help, help, help, help, help,
And I was like, wait, how deep is that water?
Sebastian was like, the waters three feet deep? Stand up,
And I was thinking, it can't be three feet deep,

(56:24):
because y'all are gonna hurt each other yourselves if it's
three feet deep and you fall in there, cause cause
three feet you can fall in. If you fall in
at the wrong angle, angle, you can hurt your legs.
If you jump in and you kind of know it's
three feet deep, you can probably like not not but
falling in the wrong angle, you could probably hurt your legs.
So three feet is very is short. Like even at

(56:45):
the pools we go to, like where they have the
water slides and stuff, the air in the water slide
is at least five feet deep because you're coming at
an angle, you're going into the water. They don't want
you to go hard into the water, hit the ground,
and hit the bottom of the pool. So I'm like,
it's not three feet it might be four. But then
I'm confused because they show like an underwater view and

(57:07):
Tanisha's legs are just a swinging I'm like, no, Tenish,
it's not that tall, tennishit she'd be able to stand up,
but she did. She's like, help, help, help, help, help,
and like k Fed has to go over there and
save her. He goes, he just said, and it's like,
are you okay, k Fed? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Is this show?

Speaker 1 (57:28):
They could be like a k Fed sympathizer. I'll stop
this shit right fucking now. I'll stop it right now.
I can't. I can't. I can't do that, Okay. I
have got on here and defended Jennifer Lopez several fucking times.
By the way, she's getting great reviews in that movie.
But that's because she's an actress. Okay, that's because she's

(57:48):
a fucking actress. That's why she's really good to being
an actress. I mean she a bitch, Yeah, she's a bitch,
but she's an actress. Anyway. I've gotten on this place
and defended Jennifer Lopez. I just told you I was birthy.
I was like, sell your daughter to a duke. I
have defended some questionable people on this fucking show. I
cannot be up here defending k Fan. So if y'all

(58:09):
hear me, you think I'm defending k fan, let me know,
I will quit this show. There'll be the end the
bi Pumpkin as we know it. I'm not doing it.
I'm not I'm not. No, that's a bad man. I
should do Chaotic. I should do that show anyway. But
he he like tols her to safety and and he's
like are you are you all right? And she goes no.

(58:35):
You know, I'm one of those people that if you say,
if I say how are you doing, I want you
to say fine? Or if you if you if you
can't say fine, I want you to sum it up
in one sentence, do not go I hate people that
we are in a again, a small talk situation, and
I'm like, hey, how's it going, because that's a way

(58:57):
of greeting someone. I do expect you to say something
back to me, but I do not expect you to
go into a three part play about what's going on
in your life? Do you can you summarize as a sentence, Ah,
not doing great? You know, didn't even know a lot
to sleep last night. But I'm here that that's fine.
Oh I hate the shop. That's fine, right, that's fine

(59:18):
to me. I hate this job. And then you like
going bullet point by bullet point girl. We all hate
the job. Let's just get the work. That's what I
want to hear. But I love when someone goes, are
you okay and someone else goes absolutely not, no, bitch, okay,
it's not here. Okay, it's not what I call it.

(59:38):
As he's towing her away, and look, I don't know,
I don't know. So now it's the boys turns. They
run out there, it's a brawl. Jay falls in, Bobby
kept running for the flag. He gets past Sebastian and
k Fed to get back. That's how did that happen? Seriously,

(01:00:00):
just push them in the water. So the girls go again,
and Tanisha's immediately back in the pool. Casey goes to
get the flag and I feel like shar Jackson just
lets her by. I really do. They were like char
was like, I actually want to push your as blah blah.
I was like, ah, I look like you just kind
of stepped aside. In the last round, Jay gets uh. Well.

(01:00:23):
The next round, Jay gets knocked again into the water
and smashing baking Kfe jump on top of Bobby bride
and not get in and then so now it's too
too everybody, every sorry each team each has two flags,
and the girls are going again. Shar Jackson goes in,

(01:00:45):
goes in the water, Casey goes in the water, and
now it's Tanisha and Nicole egered and they end up
losing their little jowstickies stick things and grabbing each other's
shirts and eventually they let each other go and just
run past each other to get the flags. And they're like,
well this later, Let's get the flags and then come
back and finish the fight. So they do, and it

(01:01:07):
gets a little wild. Tanisiha ends up bumping the coal
into the water. I mean, Tenisia is much bigger than
the coal, and Tanisha is yelling, I'm not going back
in that water. I'm not going back in that water.
Height off my team and I was like, oh, you've
been in the water twice, so I guess, I guess
I feel you. And the coal is like it was

(01:01:30):
a little till street for me. Wait a minute, bitch,
what the fuck are you talking about. You both had
your you both were struggling, You're doing the challenge. I
don't think anybody was doing anything extra, and and you
went in and you're telling me it was a little
too street. For you. Would you have been saying that?
Have you been going against Casey? No? The fuck you wouldn't.
This reminds me of the clips I'm getting from nepple

(01:01:55):
Baby New York. Whatever the fuck that show is? It'
Scott Riley on it. She's the only black person on it,
and they're and there's a lot of fucking micro Russians
against her. I don't want to watch that show, but
I think I might have to watch that show so
I can, so I can get online and tip you
to y'all need to stop. I don't know y'all, but yo, Nicole,
what the fuck does that mean? Is tanisha ghetto? Yeah?

(01:02:19):
And she would tell you that, Okay, all right. She's
always hollering about fucking flat Bush. Yeah, okay, she's always
like son like. But I don't like the way you
fucking said that. And I think you think you better
than Tania and you're not. You're not. Okay, go slim
in the glass of wine and leave us alone. I

(01:02:39):
don't like that. Oh and also, Nicole looks like somebody
to me, I feel like some She looks like somebody
in my life that I don't like. I can't put
it on me, but I'm like, put it. I can't.
I can't put my finger on it, but I'm gonna
figure it out. She looks like somebody I don't like,
and I don't know. I don't work in the office,

(01:03:00):
but I feel like somebody will work with Red. Team
loses and they all vote for Jay is the dead
weight because he's the one that fell in twice. He's
supposed to be the team leader. Nicole says she's not
a team He's not a team leader. He's also got
a back injury. He had a disactomy like a I
guess a disk in his back was taken out, and

(01:03:21):
so it's unpredictable. One day it's really bad and another
day it's fine, and it just really depends. He can
turn his head one day and his the whole back
is like out, and so his back is hurting, and
so they're like, okay, JAYN picks him, gonna do the
dead weight with you, and he pays Bobby because he
thinks Bobby's dead way. So Bobby looks like what and

(01:03:44):
far being for me to be on Bobby Brown's sidebout anything,
but yeah, bitch, you got voted dead way and sending
you backed on hurt. And I'm not saying sending you
back her Jay, I'm not saying his back doesn't hurt,
because I don't fucking know. But I think it's weird
that y'all instead of just being like, Okay, well, I

(01:04:04):
don't know. His deadweight can be the write letters to
the to the Congress or some shit I don't know.
Instead you let him pick somebody else and then the
doctor or the medic or whoever's on set. That's like
making sure the insurance premiums will go up. It's like, uh, Jay,
you really shouldn't be doing that. You need to really
need CAAU. They're supposed to be're cleaning a tent from
last week, which is probably something they came up with

(01:04:26):
because they knew Jay was like, need to be on
light duty, and Domedic is like, Jay, you really need
to sit down. You can't. Don't do this, that's what's
going don't do this. So now Bobby's cleaning a tent
by himself, and so well, Jay sits on, sits on
the ground, or sits on a little store or whatever.
And Jay's like, hey, Bobby, how's it going. And Bobby

(01:04:46):
doesn't answer him, and Jay's like, Bobby's not talking to me, bitch,
wouldn't talk to you either. I talk to you here?
How did how did you get dead weight? And I'm
over here cleaning and you sitting there watching me talking
about Hey Bobby, I wouldn't talk to you either, Jay,
And well, actually I would because I talked too much.
And so when you said how's it going, Bobby, I

(01:05:06):
would have been like, not well, not well, bitch. I'm
over here doing this and you're the one that was
dead weight, Like how did you do this? We just
need to call off dead weight today? Then okay, we
make him thumb Wressell Harvey something, but not how am
I doing this? And they just let jpick. They did

(01:05:27):
not vote again, they just let jpick. It's crazy. I
would be talking to you either, fabb He's not talking. No,
he's cleaning. So later Jay and Casey are talking about
why the Blue Team is suddenly doing so well, and
they kind of decided that the fighting that they had

(01:05:48):
is helping. Like they fought and they got the tention
away and now it's helping. I don't know if that's true,
he says. He says that at least the Blue Team
is away. He's talking about Bobby being asleep all the time. Okay,
so now a man named Bebe Clinton is coming to
help them work on like conditioning. I guess he does
football conditioning. And listen every time one of these experts shows.
I don't know what their names are, except for the

(01:06:09):
one that had one arm, the one arm drummer. I
don't think I know his name either, but I knew
he had one arm. I don't know no about his name,
but a black name, a black man named Babe. I
was like, all right, I'll remember this one, all right. Also,

(01:06:30):
Bobby starts, he shots on himself just as they start.
They could smell it. He has to run to the bathroom.
What's Bobby eating? What opened up his boot? Journal? What's
Bobby eating? So during the conditioning, the PTE Harvey taels Tanisha.
She she has big ass thunder thighs and they start

(01:06:51):
fighting and she's like, you don't know my body, it's hurting.
He's like, I know what malingering is. I know what
drama is. I was like, why you have to pull
out that word? My lingering? What is more lingering? Me?
Hold on? This is mean bad attitude. Hold on, Hold on.
I just want to double check it, Scott, that that
prefixed the mouth, so I know it's bad. Hold on.
Malingering is an intentional fabrication or exaggeration of a physical

(01:07:14):
or psychological symptoms for external incentives, like avoiding work. All right, Harvey, ooh,
the next time one of my kids doesn't want to
do their choice, I know what my lingering is. Harvey knows,

(01:07:35):
so do I. Sebastian says. He basically tells her to
walk home. Sebastian says that we're all getting used to
Tanisha having meltdowns and that, like she did this last week,
so you're just kind of like, is what it is?
You know, like you just kind of get used to
her yelling and trying to walk off and things like that.

(01:07:56):
I was okay, I mean you were also doing a
lot of yelling last week, So calm down. Sebasta Bebe
comes over and he works with her, so he gets
her back in line. They also do some like football
tackle drills and the call ends up being tackled. The
call's little like telling you that to her. They tackle
her one of them pads and then she runs into

(01:08:18):
the fucking cameraman and ends up tackling him, and I'm
just like, can y'all give his cameraman a break? Can
he speak to his union representative? Why are y'all? Why
are y'all? Why is being a cameraman a full contact sport?
And this shit? This is ridiculous. Then they do a
scene with the life coach who comes to talk about
anger and how the art of war says, if you

(01:08:38):
get anger, your opponent will control you with it. She
also says in anger is an unresolved pain and that
anger and weight gain are connected. She gonna cite her sources. No, No,
that's not what the show is about. Uh. They have
a choice of a pillow or a shirt, and they
write the things they're angry about on it. And I
guess if they write it on the shirt, they can
put on the dummy and fight the dummy. If they

(01:08:59):
ride on a pillow, beat the pillow up. Jay is
is angry, still angry about his high school bully and
his ugly girlfriend. He was reading him down as he
was fighting that dummy. K Fat says that he was
a high school bully, so he was like, hmm, you know,
I could have been one of those people making fun

(01:09:19):
of Jake because he was different. I was like, M,
do tail Kevin his anger is directed at road rage
people who can't drive, And I was like M, and
so is everybody else on the show, Like Kevin has
a lot to be angry about. I was supported. I
think if Kevin was being truthful, he would say he's
angry at the general public and press and how he's

(01:09:42):
been depicted in the general public, and like how everybody
just is always exciting when something bad happens to him,
and he's splashed across this and that, and you know,
anything he's doing is like misconstrewed, and I think that
is what he's really but I don't know. Maybe signing
an NDA you can't talk about that. I don't know

(01:10:04):
he's he curb stops the dummy doing WWE moves and
tells it to go to Travis School, and everyone is like,
I don't know if that's what you're mad about. Shar
Jackson hates portrayal, and she she gets angry from that.
She hates being told one thing and the person doing
something else, and that's where all her hate comes from.
And everyone knows she's talking about KAYFV. She rips up

(01:10:25):
her pillow and throws it around the fluffs everywhere. KEAVV
says he knows what she's going through. He knows what
she's talking about, because exuse me, he knows what she's
referring to, because he knows the thing she's gone through,
and he knows that part of that is him. And
he says that he feels bad for her. When he
said that, I was like, Ah, if I was in

(01:10:50):
Charle's position, I would not want Kevin fucking feder Line
saying in the confessional he feels bad for me. That's
almost worse than him acting as if none of this
has anything to do with him. I don't know, I
feel bad for I don't know that that that I said, Oh,
I would hate that. Sebastian Bach says that his father
taught art school and one day he went to our

(01:11:12):
art class, and one day he went to go teach
his class and fell in love with one of his
students and left the family. I was like, mm, I think,
I think, I think it happened more than one day.
He says. It's messed up when you find out your
whole childhood is a work of fiction. Damn that He

(01:11:33):
hard that he had hard. Yeah, it is fucking messed up.
By the way, Sebastian's wearing shades in all aspects of
this episode, in the Confessionals, at the in the challenges,
He's just wearing shades all the time, and I wonder
why sneeshe is angry. She she can't even do the stuff.

(01:11:59):
She starts, she's got the clipboard in front of her face.
She said that she was left in the care of
someone as a child, and in the care of that
could mean anything. That could be a babysitter, that could
be a lot of people. I don't know Tuannisia's history,
but like there's situations where people get left with family

(01:12:20):
members for like it's in the period of time that
they go to school, that that that person has care
for them, like over years and stuff while while other
things are going on. But she doesn't elaborate, but basically
that person n had like a kiddie fight club, like
would make Tanisha fight like sixteen year olds when she
was like five and stuff. She would force Tanisha to

(01:12:41):
fight that person. I said, if she could have been
forced Niche to fight, which I that's fucked up. That
is fucked up. She says, I'm such a nice person.
I don't know, Tanisha, I don't know, and I'm really

(01:13:01):
I'm really really ashamed and embarrassed by this. Nicole is
angry because her father died and she thought that she
had resolved any problems that they had before his death,
and the stepmother said that, actually, he's still really bad
at you. I was like, well, first of all, your
stepmother's a bitch, because what is the purpose of that, Like, I,

(01:13:27):
even if that was true, what's the purpose of telling
you that? And so I want to know the context
of that. And then also I want to say, this
is Nicole, like if you thought the time you spent
with your dad as he was winding down and he
was dying, and you guys got to have conversations and
shit and they got to you know, do whatever, and

(01:13:47):
you feel like you feel like you like you guys
are good, and that's what your father told you. What
the fuck is what your stepmother have to say? She
don't know you spoke to him, You spoke and he
said it was good, Like I wouldn't let that shit
bother me. She like, one, I don't think she knows
the truth. And two if she did she's a bitch

(01:14:09):
for saying it, so fuck her. All right, it's weigh
in time. Kevin has lost three pounds. It makes his goal.
He said he saw a woman. He said it was
hard because he was out. He went to vegas. Course
she did, Kevin Corse, she fucking did. You probably got
vegas tattooed on your ass. And it was hard for him,

(01:14:29):
like partying but not drinking, but he didn't. And he
said that he was in an elevator and a woman
looked at him and said, you look like Kevin Federline
when he was skinny, And he said that felt really
good to him, and it really looked at him and
I don't know that that happened, because you do not
look like Kevin Federline. He is skinny. I mean, you
got a smirky face that his face is exactly the

(01:14:50):
same as he used to be. But like, well, I
was somebody saying it to you in the elevator. And
also when Kevin Federline was skinny, you do not look
like skinny Kevin federal Line. You like Kevin Federlining because
that's who the fuck you are, but not skinny. Was
the old lady. If this happened at all? You sure
it wasn't you talking to yourself in the mirror and
the elevator drunk. I don't know. Uh. Jay lost two

(01:15:15):
pounds and missed his goal by two pounds. He's supposed
to lose four. He's halfway through a goal of thirty pounds,
like because they're halfway through the show, he's already lost
twenty pounds, but in his whole goal was thirty, so
he's actually doing quite well. The panel grills him about
being the team lead leader. Nicole says that he's a
good leader, but not in combats and that's not what
she was saying in the confessionals. But okay, they asked
the call if she wants to be a leader. She's like,

(01:15:36):
oh no, I love my team. I was like, okay,
it'll be quiet. If you don't want to step up,
then be quiet. Bobby lost one pound, but he was
supposed to lose four. He seems optimistic and says he
apologizes to his team. Jay speaks up and says that
Bobby doesn't talk about his struggles. Also, Harvey is gonna
call him every day and tell him it's time to
work out, but just not early. I don't know if

(01:15:58):
he's gonna answer the phone hard. I'm just be real.
She on that casey lost one pound, was supposed to
lose three. Harvey's feeling very proud of her. Shar Jackson
lost three pounds and makes her goals. She's excited and
sh cause she busted her ass that week. Her food
journal was excellent according to the panel, and she says
that the only person that can stop her is her.

(01:16:19):
If I was not losing weight and Shark Jackson was
up there saying shit like that, I would hate her.
My therapist told men and she saw an interview with
Kree Jackson Cree Summers. Crese Summer right a different world.
She's been a voice actor forever. She's on Abby Elementary,
she's the librarian. So Cree Summer was talking about growing

(01:16:45):
up and how her father thought every bad thing that
happened to was opportunity. Like he'd be excited something like
get their car broke down. He'd be like, how are
we gonna get out of this team? Let's this is
an opportunity. My therapist was telling me that. I was like, oh,
he sounds fucking annoying, Like she was like she started
laughing and I was like, yeah, he sounds annoying. Can
you imagine being in the back of a car at

(01:17:05):
the middle of the night you've just broken down, and
your dad's up front, uh, cackling about how this is
gonna be a great opportunity. You're fucking scared. Can you
imagine that? I was like, imagine being married to She's like, well, well,
the wife was also. She was the same thing. She
just felt like anytimes of the problem was an opportunity
to show their strength and stuff. I was like, well,
I'm the cousin that's visiting and I'm in the back

(01:17:27):
seat and I want to go home because absolutely not,
Like if something bad happens, can one do y'all take charge?
Like can somebody like just just calm everybody down and
just say okay, well, like I don't want you screaming,
but like, could you like not be up there pretending
like you're mister Rogers and like figure out how to
get his home? Like what are you doing? It's annoying
And that's how I feel. If I was sitting in

(01:17:48):
the room with shar and she's like I'm unstoppable, Like, ah,
fuck you, shar Jackson, I'd be rolling mines and shit
in there. Anyway, Tanisha gets up with her with an
attitude attitude and we find out why because she lost

(01:18:10):
zero pounds she was supposed to lose four. She says
that she was traveling and she just didn't have enough
time to work out and yeah. They tell her, no
more excuses, and I was like, we'll see you about
next week. Sebastians lost three pounds and missed his goal
by one pounds. He screams like he lost ten pounds.
He's like, yeah, yeah, I don't I would want to

(01:18:32):
be around. So he's sol and that had that that
head banging stuff. I don't like it. I don't like it.
Even when he got the flag, he was like pretending
to strum his his his joustick and banging his I
don't like it. I like the screaming. I don't like
none of that. Mm hmm. He They don't think he's

(01:19:01):
in complete trail of his anger and neither does he
and need to do. I like he is a very
angry person. Uh. Nicole didn't lose anyway, She says she
doesn't know. She doesn't get it. She worked out a lot.
They think that she's drinking too much to think it's
her diet. And she had two glasses of wine just
that day and it's not that big of a deal, Like, Okay,

(01:19:21):
so two glasses of wine is like half a bottle
or maybe a little it just depends on the bottle,
but it's about like a bottle of wine is about
four glasses and just a little smidge more. And so
she had a half a bottle of wine that day
and like, is a half bottle of wine? Like, we
need to get your ass on intervention. No, but why

(01:19:43):
are you having such a hard time not drinking in
this short amount of time, Nicole? Why? I don't know?
She says that when because they're like, you're on a
weight loss show. And she's like that feels like you're
say be perfect and they're like, no, we're not saying
to be perfect. She's like, it feels like you're this
is like rehab. And I'm like, how much are you

(01:20:07):
actually drinking, Nicole? Because if you if it's in like
two glasses of wine, that's it and you can't not
do that. Like if she had told me I drink
three bottles of wine a day, I'm an absolute whine.
Now I'm one of those like suburban moms that have
a cup that's like Mommy's little helper or whatever. I

(01:20:30):
fucking hate that. Listen. I think it's perfectly fine to
talk about the ups and downs of your life. I
think more people should talk about their lives, right, because
I think we should hear more from people about what
it's like to be them, because a lot of because
we only all of us only know what it's like
to be us? Right, Did you hear more about it?

(01:20:51):
But I saw it takes time? Really, It was like
I do not hang around negative moms. And what she
means is that, like how as soon as you're telling them,
are like, oh, this is gonna happen, then like you
know what I mean, Like everything they talk about is
like they hate and same. But I just don't, Like

(01:21:18):
I got plenty of shit to complain about because I'm
a complainer, But also like why is everything you say
about your life and your kids and your why is
it all bad all the time? You know? I don't know,
like like you you don't have fun with your kids
at all? You don't have any you know. On Saturdays,

(01:21:39):
I go to two soccer games, a swim meeting, a
volleyball game every fucking Saturday. Okay, they started eighting up
every fucking Saturday, and I do I don't have to.
I do that because I want my kids to have
these opportunities I didn't get to have. Right, I sit

(01:22:01):
out on the soccer field and it's breezing and I'm
having a great fucking time. I am in a volleyball gym,
having a good time. And we get slurpees, and we
stopped by Nana and Popaul's house and we sing in
the car and like, nothing you do with your kids
is fun. Nothing's fun about your life. You don't like nothing. Okay,

(01:22:27):
you know. I don't sleep with my kids in the bed,
mostly because I don't like to sleep with anybody in
the bed. And then also all my kids are as
fall aster kids, so I wasn't allowed to sleep with
them in the bed, right so, which is easy because
I don't like people in my bed. Bear Bear. The
closest you come is if like I need you to
sleep in my room, I will make a little palatee
for you on the floor next to my bed and
on my side of the bed, noto Dad's side, and

(01:22:48):
you can sleep there and Bear Bear snuck into my
bed one night when I let him do that, and
I woke up and he was just like in my
bed holding my hands, like what the fuck? He's like
the floor, He's like okay, okay, and did and then
I woke up. He was back, and the next day

(01:23:10):
I was like, you been boozled me, You've been boozled me,
And he was laughing about it. It's like, yeah, I did.
And I don't know, Like I guess I could tell
that story a different way and be like, oh, my
kids sleeping in the bed with me, even though I
don't like kids sleep in the bed with me. This
is like I don't know, I don't. I don't just
hang around people who but it's not just moms, right,

(01:23:32):
I don't hang around with anybody whose entire life is
horrible the way they talk about it, because I don't
want that shit on me, like that shit's contagious. I
don't know and like and particularly people that are like
I gotta drink people. I was a want to make
it to take my kids to soccer practice. I don't

(01:23:53):
want to be around with super people. I just don't,
and I think it's not funny to me. I don't I.
And I feel like the Coal is one of those
people that's just like yeah, Like she's actually drinking three
four bles of wine to day, you know, and she's
sang two glasses, and so it's making it worse because

(01:24:14):
we're all like, okay, well, then just stop drinking two glasses.
It's like nothing. It's like saying you had one beer,
I guess, and like you could just not have a beer.
But if you told me that you drink thirty six
beers a night, I'd be like, oh, okay, you can't
not drink that, because I mean, you do need to
stop doing that. But when you tell me I can't

(01:24:34):
stop drinking thirty six beers a night, I believe you
because that's a lot of fucking beers. I think that you.
I think I think something more is going on here,
and I think that's going on in the Coal. It
sounds like a big deal because she's not being truthful
about what's happening. She starts crying. She says it's hard

(01:24:56):
and the wine helps, and she's a good girl. Yeah,
something's going on in the call. So they do all
the squirrely math and the Red team is ahead by
like twelve fucking points. I was like, somebody checked the
electorial college, because what twelve point? Why they happen like
two points? I'm not going back to check and Kate

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face and the lead. But Jay is right behind him.
But this time it's not like at a half a point,
it's like three points. Again, I do not understand the math. Uh.
Next week, Bobby Round tells Jada kisses black ass and
calls him a snitch ass bitch. Okay, so we got
that to look forward to. Anyway, guys, thank you for listening.

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I will see you. If you're a member of the
Patreon or you subscribe to Apple Podcasts, I will see
you on Thursday. My hope is that Liz and I
are gonna be talking about Big Frida, Big Fria and
yeah and then if not loss oh wait, if you
are a member of the Princess Diaries to your Patreon,

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you're gonna get an episode where I just talk about
my wife, a fight I have with a lady at
the Boys and Girls Club, turtles lock Journey, Father's Day,
my brother visiting, all that sort of shit. Just talked
about my life for a couple of hours. That'll come
out on Friday, the eleventh, and then if you're not

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a member of any of those things, I'll just see
you next Sunday. Okay, all right later