June 26, 2024 • 20 mins
Scary Mystery Surprise is now CAMPFIRE STORY. We start off this first episode with the theme of "Haunted Roads". You thought traffic was bad. Each episode we'll both be telling you a story by a roaring campfire.
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(00:01):
And that was when you realized thechildren were not looking for playmates. They
were looking for someone to join them, to become a permanent part of their
ghostly game. Get ready for acampfire story. I'm Edwin, I'm Michelle,
and we'll share spooky stories with playfulbanter that'll keep you up at night.
(00:25):
So throw someonood on the fire andput a wiener on a stick.
We're telling you a campfire story tonight, late, Michelle, So where are
we? What's going on? Well, we've decided to move the show out
of the studio and we're going liveon location, live in quotation marks.
(00:50):
But we've decided to really keep withthe scary ambiance and the surprise really to
a campfire, and that is whywe will now be known as Campfire Story.
Camp Fire Story. Also, whata better place to tell a scary
story than buy the campfire at night? Agreed? Agreed, And for the
(01:11):
longest time, this is how storieswere shared. So it fits. I
like it, me too. We'llboth share a story and then also we
love it if our audience also contributedto our themes, Like our theme this
week is hunted Highways, Let's doit, energy down, Let's go,
(01:34):
energy down, energy down. Herewe are in the woods, playing around
by a campfire, singing our songs. I'm sure everyone appreciates that, Michelle.
Anyway, back to just roads ingeneral and how spooky they are.
I think we've all experienced, youknow, driving down a road at night
(01:56):
alone. And my campfire story goeslike this. There was a freeway in
a town not too far from here, where the locals never spoke of it.
It was said that at night theroad came alive with the echoes of
children's laughter. It was the laughterthat sent shivers down your spine. A
(02:22):
young man named Edwin, who isnew to town, scoffed at these stories.
He was a rational person and didn'tbelieve in ghosts. You can relate
to that, right, Edwin.Yeah. So one night Edwin decided to
take that freeway home, dismissing thewarnings of his neighbors. As Edwin drove,
(02:46):
the night grew darker and a thickfog began to roll in, blanketing
the road. The street lights flickered, as if struggling to maintain their glow
against an unseen force. Edwin's carheadlights cut through the mist, but he
could barely see a few feet aheadof him. Suddenly he heard it,
(03:09):
the faint sound of children giggling.He shook his head, thinking it was
just his imagination, but then hesaw them, apparitions of children running across
the road, their faces pale andtheir eyes hollow. They were playing a
(03:29):
game of tag, darting in andout of the fog, coming dangerously close
to this moving car. Your heartrace as you tried to focus on the
road. You told yourself they weren'treal, just figments of your tired mind.
You know you're tired. But thena little girl appeared right in front
(03:51):
of your car, staring right atyou with sad eyes that seemed to plead
for help. You swerve to avoidher, nearly losing control of the vehicle,
but you regain your composure, andas you look in the rear view
mirror, the children had vanished.The laughter, however, grew louder and
(04:14):
more menacing. And that was whenyou realized the children were not looking for
playmates. They were looking for someoneto join them, to become a permanent
part of their ghostly game. Soyou hit that accelerator, desperate to escape
the haunting chorus of giggles and asyou left that fog behind, the laughter
(04:38):
faded, the freeway returned to normal, and you never took that road at
night again. And whenever you hearchildren's laughter, you're reminded of that eerie
night on that road. Geez Okay, it's something about kids giggling. It's
it's some of the kids. Buthere's the thing. You wouldn't think that's
(05:01):
real, right, Like, that'stotal fabrication. Why would kids be in
a freeway. But now I'm goingto tell you the story of a killer
who's long dead, but his crimesecho every time you drive on the Ventura
Highway or Route twenty three. Yeah. So the serial killer mac Ray Edwards
(05:24):
was a child molester and serial killerwho molested and murdered at least six children
in Los Angeles County, California,between nineteen fifty three and nineteen seventy.
He was sentenced to death and hehanged himself in prison. So he's long
dead. One of the scary thingsabout him is that he worked for Caltrans,
(05:46):
the California Department of Transportation. Ohwow, And he worked on the
freeway construction sites during the fifties andsixties, and one of the bodies of
the wards known victims was actually foundunderneath the Santa Anna Freeway, and he
(06:08):
claimed to have disposed of others underthe Ventur Freeway. Here's the thing.
Edwards may have committed other murders,but his own accounts were inconsistent. He
had claimed to like an inmate ora prison guard, that he'd killed between
eighteen and twenty two children. Buthe's only officially he said six, like
(06:29):
there's a quote. Six is all. There is just six. But he
has at least five other suspected victimsof kids that went missing at that time,
and even now the police are stilllooking. And as recently as two
thousand and eight and twenty eleven,the police conducted two separate searches following up
(06:51):
a potential victims buried under freeways.What and the cadaver dogs got hits on
places in the freeway, but therewasn't enough evidence to excavate for those bodies.
Just remember next time you get stuckin a fog and you hear a
(07:11):
giggle. That wasn't your imagination?Ready for another road story? I mean,
I love a good haunted road,all right? Should we keep trucking
down the road? So here's astory that I bumped into recently that made
me think about the whole ghostly hitchhikerurban legend, except this one has actual
(07:35):
stories behind it. Imagine this,Michelle. You're driving along the road with
your husband heading up to San Francisco. It's February twenty sixth, nineteen forty,
and you're both on a cool lookingforward Its engine is roaring as you
drive along the road through beautiful blackand white scenery because it's the nineteen forties.
(08:00):
But then you spot a woman onthe side of the road. Oh,
Michael, Jack, you say toyour husband, please pull over to
help this poor young lady. Certainly, he says, as he slows the
car down, and the woman greetsyou both with a solemn look, opens
up the door, and gets inthe car. You keep driving, trying
not to make it awkward because youkeep trying to make conversation with this woman,
(08:22):
who just frowns, looking very sad. She keeps looking out the window.
Eventually you get to a Dumbarton Bridgetoll or. Back then, they
charged you based on the number ofpeople that were in the car, and
not by car. You'd give threecents for three people. The attendant looks
at you and says, oh my, it appears to me that you have
(08:45):
overpaid. There were only two ofyou in the car. There was no
one in the backseat. What thisspecific story is. I mean, it's
very specific, right, like youpick someone up to a toll. But
this type of urban legend has beentold over and over and over like for
generations, and it's usually well acceptedthat they're just rumors, stories, you
(09:05):
know, that are just told forever. But this specific ghost called the White
Witch just won't die. I've neverheard of the White Witch. Oh this
is good. It's a creepy onebecause it's up in northern California and it's
a very specific area. It's theseven mile stretch of Niles Canyon Road.
There's this article that sf Gate did, but they did a very good report
(09:28):
on the story, which I'll linkto. But it followed the story of
this man who was driving down theroad and had an encounter with his ghost.
And in my research I found thisFacebook post that, you know,
around Halloween twenty twenty three. Justrecently, Ray Palomino posted this Facebook group
called Fremont and Niles, California Memories. He posted this picture of a ghost
(09:50):
in the middle of the road.He asks, so, what's the actual
story behind the phantom hitchhiker aka theWhite Witch in Niles kN and the post
got flooded with responses. A girlhaving an accident on her way to prom
night was one of them. Awoman heading to her wedding and dying.
There was the tragic story mentioned bythis guy, Brian Wing about an article
(10:16):
in the Daily Review that said thatthere was this man who was driving to
Fremont when he saw a woman alongthe road near Paolo Mar's Road. He
didn't stop, He just kept driving, but when he looked in the rear
view mirror, the woman was sittingin the car seat behind him. No,
that's a nightmare. No, hefreaked out, stepped on it.
(10:39):
He got to a place called BigDaddy's, appropriate name for a drive in
up there, and then he calledthe police. It was said that the
girl's mother eventually heard the news andrushed to meet with the guy. When
she got to see the car,she said that it smelled just like the
same brand of perfume that her daughterused to wear. She had been killed
(11:01):
in the canyon walking home from abroken down car incident the whole post is
about old people sharing memories, right. I loved it. I went through
like everything. There was one thatmentioned the white Witch finally, but it
turns out that it was not thewhite Witch that I'm talking about along the
road, but there was this phonenumber that you could call on the phone
(11:26):
and this witch would answer your questionsthat you had. Young kids would call
this number and get freaked out like, oh, I'm gonna call it,
and then this actually one of thecomments on here said that this woman called
and she freaked out because oh,an old woman answered. So they hung
up, and that was that I'vefallen and I can't get up. Where's
(11:48):
the beef? Oh, where's somebeef lady? Like? Oh man.
Anyway, so a couple of postsactually mentioned that the white Witch in Skyline,
Oakland Hills actually and supposedly it wasa daughter who was supposed to get
married when she was killed by herhusband. To be so like classic,
that's what they say that this whiteWitch is. I mean, that's like
(12:09):
a traditional lady in white right.But anyway, among all these posts there's
this one by Daniel Mesiki who says, quote, yep, she was in
the back seat of my car inNiles Canyon. Back in nineteen seventy nine,
I got off work at Reynolds's canplant at three o'clock in the morning,
driving back to Livermore. I wastwenty years old, driving back to
(12:31):
Livermore and Niles Canyon, driving asfast as a twenty year old would,
and hit a curve too fast.She touched my shoulder. I looked in
the back seat and saw her.He was interviewed like he was. They
made an article the whole story ofwhat happens experience. Turns out, he
was driving along the road in hisseventy seven Toyota Selica when he felt the
(12:54):
hand on his shoulder. He stoppedcompletely in the middle of the road at
night, pitch black, in completesilence, and he looked back, but
there was nobody in his car,and he looked around. There's no one
there now again. Sf Gate isa publication in San Francisco, looked into
this story and he talked to DanielMisiki. The guy and his story held
(13:18):
up in the same detail, sameeverything. Although it is a typical hitchhiker
vanishing hitchhiker story, this one issaid to appear only on February twenty sixth
and has been in the newspaper articlesconsistently known as the Ghost Scroll of Nile's
Canyon or the White Witch. Nowone of the reporters for this article,
(13:41):
actually it has been known as theDeadliest Road is very dark and quiet,
has sharp turns, a lot ofareas where you can fall off and crash,
and one of the reporters literally bumpedinto a car driving on the wrong
side of the road and totaled.The reporter's car when it is totaled,
and some of the articles talk abouthow in nineteen forty eight they actually sent
(14:03):
a photographer to Nels Kanyon and searchfor the Ghost Girl during her annual February
twenty sixth return. The photographer didn'tsee a ghost, but he did take
a few pictures of the canyon,and when he developed the photographs, he
was stunned to find an ethereal youngwoman in one of them. She was
draped in white and gazing ahead intonothingness. The first paper that ran the
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image was in nineteen forty eight,then again on February twenty fourth, nineteen
fifty, but this time it wascaptioned for those who believe in ghosts,
we present the above picture. Forthose who do not believe in ghosts,
we present the above picture. Twodays later, on February twenty sixth,
nineteen fifty, a ghostly figure didappear on a railroad trestle alongside nels Kanyon
(14:52):
Road, spooking drivers as they passedby. Now, when you look at
the image, it looks fake.It looks like this double you know,
what do you call it? Doubleexposure? Yeah? Double exposure, Yeah,
which is what they do with alot of spirit photography. Is so
double negative. Yeah. However,digging more into it, I found out
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about the prank basically because you know, February twenty sixth was the ghost Girls
day to come out. There wasthis white figure that actually appeared there,
but it turned out to be nineteenyear old Clarence Chivers wearing a white sheet.
Alameda County sheriff deputies responded, andthey actually went there and fired warning
(15:35):
shots and then arrested Clarence. Yeah, they arrested him. What if you
actually became a ghost while you werepretending to play a ghost? What happened?
See? And that's the thing inside. But are you still dressed as
a ghost now that you're a ghost? Good question? I mean this feels
like inception. Yeah, I'm curious. I'm used to know what would happen.
What if you're in a Halloween partyand you're dressed up, yeah,
(15:58):
and you die is like the wolfman or a clown? Yeah, and
then you're just stuck in your clowncostume for the rest of well, you're
like, what happened? Oh?Man? There was this guy who posted
some details on the whole white Witchphenomenon that keeps going on along that road,
and ten years after he published hisresearch, I guess in a short
(16:19):
blog post, he got in contactthrough email from this guy named Mike Shivers,
who was a nephew of the lateClarence the guy who did the prank
okay, and he said, yeah, his uncle did indeed stage the prank
and they actually talk about in youknow, family parties and such. He
was actually arrested, Like the guythat did the prank was arrested. I'm
(16:41):
not surprised he was arrested. Itseems like that would really stress people out,
so you'd need to arrest whoever wasdoing it. Yeah, you think
this is funny, but we don'tthink it's funny. Yeah, so just
creeving people out. But yeah,the story stays alive. And even despite
the prank and it's confirmed that itwas a bank, people still believe it.
And you can tell by all theseposts of the people that lived around
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the area talking about their memories beingscared by this ghost entity that lurks at
Niles Canyon Road. So even thoughsome of these stories of vanishing hitchhikers might
be made up and just rumors,they're always surrounded by some truth. And
in this case, maybe there werewarnings because this road happened to be one
(17:26):
of the deadliest, so you mightbe the next one. Just the heads
up, keep your eyes on theroad, everybody well edwin. Do you
believe in haunted roads? I do, and that's because of my experience that
the Pacheco Pass, there's an earvibe that you get there. But I
like that thing. I go afterthat, like I chase that, Like
yeah, that thrill. I feellike I'm safe in the car. But
now after finding out that you knowthey can go into the ghosts can go
(17:51):
in wherever. They're just popping in. They don't need locks. Yeah that
creeps me out. What about you, I'd say, once again, I'm
more scared of people outside on theroad that I am of ghosts. I
used to live out in Apple Valleyand so that lots of desert stretches of
road without any sort of like lighting. So fairly I loved speeding on those
(18:11):
roads at night. But like outin that same area, that family got
murdered and buried out there, youknow those fat family that went missing.
That sounds familiar. That sounds familiar. You remember that it was like a
San Diego family. They were likeburied up one of those roads that I
used to just go up and downlike speeding a ground on. Isn't that
(18:32):
weird? Wow? So once againI think I'm more scared of like a
random person. I get it,logical, it makes sense to be afraid
of things that could kill you.I don't think ghosts can kill you unless
they scare you to death. Andthen I mean, I guess a ghost
could scare you into an accident,and that could be their intent if they
wanted to send in your comments.You guys reviews the ms, We're gonna
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start reading them live on the air, do it, Harmony says. First
off, if they had to pricka ghost president to appear in their home,
it would be George Washington, andthey're asking if we can do the
story of Teresa Fidalgo. Is ittrue that Teresa Fidalgo was sleep by your
(19:17):
side? Oh, like a ghost, unmasking the enigma of Teresa Fidalgo's tragic
legend. Okay, we have todo this at least. Oh that sounds
great. All right, well,I think I'm calling it. This says
creep me out thoroughly. I guessit's time to put out the fire and
head home. Will you be ableto make it to the next Campfire Story?
Good Night? Campfire Story is hostedby Michelle Newman and Edwin Kovarubias.
(19:49):
This podcast was edited and sound designedby Sarah Vorhez Wendel, a VW Sound
It All.
And that was when you realized thechildren were not looking for playmates. They
were looking for someone to join them, to become a permanent part of their
ghostly game. Get ready for acampfire story. I'm Edwin, I'm Michelle,
and we'll share spooky stories with playfulbanter that'll keep you up at night.
(00:25):
So throw someonood on the fire andput a wiener on a stick.
We're telling you a campfire story tonight, late, Michelle, So where are
we? What's going on? Well, we've decided to move the show out
of the studio and we're going liveon location, live in quotation marks.
(00:50):
But we've decided to really keep withthe scary ambiance and the surprise really to
a campfire, and that is whywe will now be known as Campfire Story.
Camp Fire Story. Also, whata better place to tell a scary
story than buy the campfire at night? Agreed? Agreed, And for the
(01:11):
longest time, this is how storieswere shared. So it fits. I
like it, me too. We'llboth share a story and then also we
love it if our audience also contributedto our themes, Like our theme this
week is hunted Highways, Let's doit, energy down, Let's go,
(01:34):
energy down, energy down. Herewe are in the woods, playing around
by a campfire, singing our songs. I'm sure everyone appreciates that, Michelle.
Anyway, back to just roads ingeneral and how spooky they are.
I think we've all experienced, youknow, driving down a road at night
(01:56):
alone. And my campfire story goeslike this. There was a freeway in
a town not too far from here, where the locals never spoke of it.
It was said that at night theroad came alive with the echoes of
children's laughter. It was the laughterthat sent shivers down your spine. A
(02:22):
young man named Edwin, who isnew to town, scoffed at these stories.
He was a rational person and didn'tbelieve in ghosts. You can relate
to that, right, Edwin.Yeah. So one night Edwin decided to
take that freeway home, dismissing thewarnings of his neighbors. As Edwin drove,
(02:46):
the night grew darker and a thickfog began to roll in, blanketing
the road. The street lights flickered, as if struggling to maintain their glow
against an unseen force. Edwin's carheadlights cut through the mist, but he
could barely see a few feet aheadof him. Suddenly he heard it,
(03:09):
the faint sound of children giggling.He shook his head, thinking it was
just his imagination, but then hesaw them, apparitions of children running across
the road, their faces pale andtheir eyes hollow. They were playing a
(03:29):
game of tag, darting in andout of the fog, coming dangerously close
to this moving car. Your heartrace as you tried to focus on the
road. You told yourself they weren'treal, just figments of your tired mind.
You know you're tired. But thena little girl appeared right in front
(03:51):
of your car, staring right atyou with sad eyes that seemed to plead
for help. You swerve to avoidher, nearly losing control of the vehicle,
but you regain your composure, andas you look in the rear view
mirror, the children had vanished.The laughter, however, grew louder and
(04:14):
more menacing. And that was whenyou realized the children were not looking for
playmates. They were looking for someoneto join them, to become a permanent
part of their ghostly game. Soyou hit that accelerator, desperate to escape
the haunting chorus of giggles and asyou left that fog behind, the laughter
(04:38):
faded, the freeway returned to normal, and you never took that road at
night again. And whenever you hearchildren's laughter, you're reminded of that eerie
night on that road. Geez Okay, it's something about kids giggling. It's
it's some of the kids. Buthere's the thing. You wouldn't think that's
(05:01):
real, right, Like, that'stotal fabrication. Why would kids be in
a freeway. But now I'm goingto tell you the story of a killer
who's long dead, but his crimesecho every time you drive on the Ventura
Highway or Route twenty three. Yeah. So the serial killer mac Ray Edwards
(05:24):
was a child molester and serial killerwho molested and murdered at least six children
in Los Angeles County, California,between nineteen fifty three and nineteen seventy.
He was sentenced to death and hehanged himself in prison. So he's long
dead. One of the scary thingsabout him is that he worked for Caltrans,
(05:46):
the California Department of Transportation. Ohwow, And he worked on the
freeway construction sites during the fifties andsixties, and one of the bodies of
the wards known victims was actually foundunderneath the Santa Anna Freeway, and he
(06:08):
claimed to have disposed of others underthe Ventur Freeway. Here's the thing.
Edwards may have committed other murders,but his own accounts were inconsistent. He
had claimed to like an inmate ora prison guard, that he'd killed between
eighteen and twenty two children. Buthe's only officially he said six, like
(06:29):
there's a quote. Six is all. There is just six. But he
has at least five other suspected victimsof kids that went missing at that time,
and even now the police are stilllooking. And as recently as two
thousand and eight and twenty eleven,the police conducted two separate searches following up
(06:51):
a potential victims buried under freeways.What and the cadaver dogs got hits on
places in the freeway, but therewasn't enough evidence to excavate for those bodies.
Just remember next time you get stuckin a fog and you hear a
(07:11):
giggle. That wasn't your imagination?Ready for another road story? I mean,
I love a good haunted road,all right? Should we keep trucking
down the road? So here's astory that I bumped into recently that made
me think about the whole ghostly hitchhikerurban legend, except this one has actual
(07:35):
stories behind it. Imagine this,Michelle. You're driving along the road with
your husband heading up to San Francisco. It's February twenty sixth, nineteen forty,
and you're both on a cool lookingforward Its engine is roaring as you
drive along the road through beautiful blackand white scenery because it's the nineteen forties.
(08:00):
But then you spot a woman onthe side of the road. Oh,
Michael, Jack, you say toyour husband, please pull over to
help this poor young lady. Certainly, he says, as he slows the
car down, and the woman greetsyou both with a solemn look, opens
up the door, and gets inthe car. You keep driving, trying
not to make it awkward because youkeep trying to make conversation with this woman,
(08:22):
who just frowns, looking very sad. She keeps looking out the window.
Eventually you get to a Dumbarton Bridgetoll or. Back then, they
charged you based on the number ofpeople that were in the car, and
not by car. You'd give threecents for three people. The attendant looks
at you and says, oh my, it appears to me that you have
(08:45):
overpaid. There were only two ofyou in the car. There was no
one in the backseat. What thisspecific story is. I mean, it's
very specific, right, like youpick someone up to a toll. But
this type of urban legend has beentold over and over and over like for
generations, and it's usually well acceptedthat they're just rumors, stories, you
(09:05):
know, that are just told forever. But this specific ghost called the White
Witch just won't die. I've neverheard of the White Witch. Oh this
is good. It's a creepy onebecause it's up in northern California and it's
a very specific area. It's theseven mile stretch of Niles Canyon Road.
There's this article that sf Gate did, but they did a very good report
(09:28):
on the story, which I'll linkto. But it followed the story of
this man who was driving down theroad and had an encounter with his ghost.
And in my research I found thisFacebook post that, you know,
around Halloween twenty twenty three. Justrecently, Ray Palomino posted this Facebook group
called Fremont and Niles, California Memories. He posted this picture of a ghost
(09:50):
in the middle of the road.He asks, so, what's the actual
story behind the phantom hitchhiker aka theWhite Witch in Niles kN and the post
got flooded with responses. A girlhaving an accident on her way to prom
night was one of them. Awoman heading to her wedding and dying.
There was the tragic story mentioned bythis guy, Brian Wing about an article
(10:16):
in the Daily Review that said thatthere was this man who was driving to
Fremont when he saw a woman alongthe road near Paolo Mar's Road. He
didn't stop, He just kept driving, but when he looked in the rear
view mirror, the woman was sittingin the car seat behind him. No,
that's a nightmare. No, hefreaked out, stepped on it.
(10:39):
He got to a place called BigDaddy's, appropriate name for a drive in
up there, and then he calledthe police. It was said that the
girl's mother eventually heard the news andrushed to meet with the guy. When
she got to see the car,she said that it smelled just like the
same brand of perfume that her daughterused to wear. She had been killed
(11:01):
in the canyon walking home from abroken down car incident the whole post is
about old people sharing memories, right. I loved it. I went through
like everything. There was one thatmentioned the white Witch finally, but it
turns out that it was not thewhite Witch that I'm talking about along the
road, but there was this phonenumber that you could call on the phone
(11:26):
and this witch would answer your questionsthat you had. Young kids would call
this number and get freaked out like, oh, I'm gonna call it,
and then this actually one of thecomments on here said that this woman called
and she freaked out because oh,an old woman answered. So they hung
up, and that was that I'vefallen and I can't get up. Where's
(11:48):
the beef? Oh, where's somebeef lady? Like? Oh man.
Anyway, so a couple of postsactually mentioned that the white Witch in Skyline,
Oakland Hills actually and supposedly it wasa daughter who was supposed to get
married when she was killed by herhusband. To be so like classic,
that's what they say that this whiteWitch is. I mean, that's like
(12:09):
a traditional lady in white right.But anyway, among all these posts there's
this one by Daniel Mesiki who says, quote, yep, she was in
the back seat of my car inNiles Canyon. Back in nineteen seventy nine,
I got off work at Reynolds's canplant at three o'clock in the morning,
driving back to Livermore. I wastwenty years old, driving back to
(12:31):
Livermore and Niles Canyon, driving asfast as a twenty year old would,
and hit a curve too fast.She touched my shoulder. I looked in
the back seat and saw her.He was interviewed like he was. They
made an article the whole story ofwhat happens experience. Turns out, he
was driving along the road in hisseventy seven Toyota Selica when he felt the
(12:54):
hand on his shoulder. He stoppedcompletely in the middle of the road at
night, pitch black, in completesilence, and he looked back, but
there was nobody in his car,and he looked around. There's no one
there now again. Sf Gate isa publication in San Francisco, looked into
this story and he talked to DanielMisiki. The guy and his story held
(13:18):
up in the same detail, sameeverything. Although it is a typical hitchhiker
vanishing hitchhiker story, this one issaid to appear only on February twenty sixth
and has been in the newspaper articlesconsistently known as the Ghost Scroll of Nile's
Canyon or the White Witch. Nowone of the reporters for this article,
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actually it has been known as theDeadliest Road is very dark and quiet,
has sharp turns, a lot ofareas where you can fall off and crash,
and one of the reporters literally bumpedinto a car driving on the wrong
side of the road and totaled.The reporter's car when it is totaled,
and some of the articles talk abouthow in nineteen forty eight they actually sent
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a photographer to Nels Kanyon and searchfor the Ghost Girl during her annual February
twenty sixth return. The photographer didn'tsee a ghost, but he did take
a few pictures of the canyon,and when he developed the photographs, he
was stunned to find an ethereal youngwoman in one of them. She was
draped in white and gazing ahead intonothingness. The first paper that ran the
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image was in nineteen forty eight,then again on February twenty fourth, nineteen
fifty, but this time it wascaptioned for those who believe in ghosts,
we present the above picture. Forthose who do not believe in ghosts,
we present the above picture. Twodays later, on February twenty sixth,
nineteen fifty, a ghostly figure didappear on a railroad trestle alongside nels Kanyon
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Road, spooking drivers as they passedby. Now, when you look at
the image, it looks fake.It looks like this double you know,
what do you call it? Doubleexposure? Yeah? Double exposure, Yeah,
which is what they do with alot of spirit photography. Is so
double negative. Yeah. However,digging more into it, I found out
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about the prank basically because you know, February twenty sixth was the ghost Girls
day to come out. There wasthis white figure that actually appeared there,
but it turned out to be nineteenyear old Clarence Chivers wearing a white sheet.
Alameda County sheriff deputies responded, andthey actually went there and fired warning
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shots and then arrested Clarence. Yeah, they arrested him. What if you
actually became a ghost while you werepretending to play a ghost? What happened?
See? And that's the thing inside. But are you still dressed as
a ghost now that you're a ghost? Good question? I mean this feels
like inception. Yeah, I'm curious. I'm used to know what would happen.
What if you're in a Halloween partyand you're dressed up, yeah,
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and you die is like the wolfman or a clown? Yeah, and
then you're just stuck in your clowncostume for the rest of well, you're
like, what happened? Oh?Man? There was this guy who posted
some details on the whole white Witchphenomenon that keeps going on along that road,
and ten years after he published hisresearch, I guess in a short
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blog post, he got in contactthrough email from this guy named Mike Shivers,
who was a nephew of the lateClarence the guy who did the prank
okay, and he said, yeah, his uncle did indeed stage the prank
and they actually talk about in youknow, family parties and such. He
was actually arrested, Like the guythat did the prank was arrested. I'm
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not surprised he was arrested. Itseems like that would really stress people out,
so you'd need to arrest whoever wasdoing it. Yeah, you think
this is funny, but we don'tthink it's funny. Yeah, so just
creeving people out. But yeah,the story stays alive. And even despite
the prank and it's confirmed that itwas a bank, people still believe it.
And you can tell by all theseposts of the people that lived around
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the area talking about their memories beingscared by this ghost entity that lurks at
Niles Canyon Road. So even thoughsome of these stories of vanishing hitchhikers might
be made up and just rumors,they're always surrounded by some truth. And
in this case, maybe there werewarnings because this road happened to be one
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of the deadliest, so you mightbe the next one. Just the heads
up, keep your eyes on theroad, everybody well edwin. Do you
believe in haunted roads? I do, and that's because of my experience that
the Pacheco Pass, there's an earvibe that you get there. But I
like that thing. I go afterthat, like I chase that, Like
yeah, that thrill. I feellike I'm safe in the car. But
now after finding out that you knowthey can go into the ghosts can go
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in wherever. They're just popping in. They don't need locks. Yeah that
creeps me out. What about you, I'd say, once again, I'm
more scared of people outside on theroad that I am of ghosts. I
used to live out in Apple Valleyand so that lots of desert stretches of
road without any sort of like lighting. So fairly I loved speeding on those
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roads at night. But like outin that same area, that family got
murdered and buried out there, youknow those fat family that went missing.
That sounds familiar. That sounds familiar. You remember that it was like a
San Diego family. They were likeburied up one of those roads that I
used to just go up and downlike speeding a ground on. Isn't that
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weird? Wow? So once againI think I'm more scared of like a
random person. I get it,logical, it makes sense to be afraid
of things that could kill you.I don't think ghosts can kill you unless
they scare you to death. Andthen I mean, I guess a ghost
could scare you into an accident,and that could be their intent if they
wanted to send in your comments.You guys reviews the ms, We're gonna
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start reading them live on the air, do it, Harmony says. First
off, if they had to pricka ghost president to appear in their home,
it would be George Washington, andthey're asking if we can do the
story of Teresa Fidalgo. Is ittrue that Teresa Fidalgo was sleep by your
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side? Oh, like a ghost, unmasking the enigma of Teresa Fidalgo's tragic
legend. Okay, we have todo this at least. Oh that sounds
great. All right, well,I think I'm calling it. This says
creep me out thoroughly. I guessit's time to put out the fire and
head home. Will you be ableto make it to the next Campfire Story?
Good Night? Campfire Story is hostedby Michelle Newman and Edwin Kovarubias.
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This podcast was edited and sound designedby Sarah Vorhez Wendel, a VW Sound
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