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August 21, 2024 20 mins
This week's theme is New Orleans.  Michelle tells us the legend of those vampiric casket girls and Edwin shares the tale of an absinth house haunted by a pirate.

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Hosted by Michelle Newman and Edwin Covarrubias. Episode edited & sound designed by Sarah Vorhees Wendel of VW Sound

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Their corpses were found the next morning, drained of blood.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Get ready for a campfire story.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm Edwin, I'm Michelle, and we'll share spooky stories with
playful banter that'll keep you up at night.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
So throw some wood on the fire and put a
wiener on a stick. We're telling you a campfire story tonight.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
We're walking in the woods. There's a lot of mosquitoes tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I hate mosquitos. The other day I was falling asleep.
I had my window open, like actual open open, and
I just hear the but like in the ear, and
I'm like, oh, like get out and uh because it's disgusting.
I wish I had that like blood type that mosquitoes
don't chase you or whatever.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Does that really exist?

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I don't think so, but I mean it's good to
dream about. By the way, Michelle is new How do
you pronounce New Orleans New Orleans?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
New Orleans?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
New Orleans?

Speaker 1 (01:04):
But I'm sure the locals say it differently in some ways.
So that's what I'm going with New Orleans.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Because that's what we're going to be talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I mean, New Orleans is infamously one of the most
haunted cities and you'd love it. It's haunted stuff. It's
eating amazing foodirates food history, edwin the food. Should we
get the time machine?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Oh, we haven't done that any.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
We haven't done a time machine in so long. I
hope it still works.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Where are we? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, our story begins in the earliest days of New Orleans.
The air is thick with the scent of magnolias, and
the sounds of jazz echo through alleys. I mean, actually,
jazz hadn't been invented yet, but like I'm just setting
the tone. New Orleans is actually still French and America

(02:06):
isn't even a thing yet. That's how far back we are.
We're still in the colony days. It's just a bunch
of colonies. It's still a backwater fur trading colony. And
like a lot of frontier towns, there wasn't enough women
for all those harry, stinky frenchmen. The governor at the time,
Jean Baptiste le Moin de Benville, I think maybe de

(02:29):
Benville made a request that the government back in France
send marriageable women to help increase the population of the
fledgling colony. It sounds weird, but it wasn't unheard of. Actually,
in the late seventeenth century, King Louis the fourteenth sponsored
a program called feest Rot or King's Daughters, which put

(02:52):
around eight hundred women into ships bound for French settlements
in Canada. And there's even a painting called the Arrival
of the Bride, and these women in this painting are
seen disembarking in Quebec carrying a small wooden suitcase called
a cassette cas quette the French way to say it

(03:13):
is casket, which contained everything they could bring to their
new home. These boxes were so small they would be
carryons on a modern airplane. They're small, but anyway, back
to the Governor of Louisiana, not quite what he had
in mind. France drew from the country's prisons, poorhouses and

(03:35):
orphanage and sent two hundred and fifty eight girls and
women of dubious repute to New Orleans during seventeen nineteen
to seventeen twenty one. The arrivals were not well received.
Many were refused marriage. They want women of like a
high social standing, virtuous, whatever that means at that time.

(03:57):
So in seventeen twenty eight a whole new group of
women came over of an acceptable quality to New Orleans.
I don't like it either. I don't like it either.
As soon as they stepped onto shore, New Orleans, people
were surprised at their pale, otherworldly complexions, likely a consequence

(04:21):
of being kept below deck out of the sun for
the long voyage. I mean, we're talking about months to
get across the Atlantic here. Their names became fill A
la Kasquit, which evolved into the very creepy name the
casket Girls, named after the little boxes suitcases that they carried.
The legend says some of these girls were found to

(04:44):
be so strange looking and unnaturally pale that their skin
blistered and redden on the subtropical sunlight within moments of
them emerging from the ship. And so when these women
could not find husbands, the Casket Girls eventually found themselves
living in the Ursling Convent on Sharp Street. The sisters

(05:04):
there ran an orphanage in a hospital and a school
on the first floor, and they lived on the second floor.
So these nuns cared for like the sick and the
dying during outbreaks of yellow fever. They tended to the
wounded in the War of eighteen twelve, in the Civil
War and so this building is haunted, haunted, But that's
you know, the casket Girls were before all that. It's

(05:26):
here that the legend says the casket girls found a
home on the third floor in the attic, and their
coffin like wooden boxes in their possession were stashed at
the foot of their bed. At some point the nuns
sealed off the third floor, shuttering the windows, and at
the time people were just assumed it was to protect

(05:47):
the virtue of the young women in their care. But
then the hand mirrors the girls brought with them mysteriously vanished,
and neighbors fell ill, crops failed, and cats and dogs
lived together.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
That's the most bizarre.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So whispers began that the vampire pale casket Girls had
brought an evil with them from the Old Country. Eventually,
the nuns threw the casket girls out and closed up
the third floor attic forever. So did the casket girls
smuggle in vampires from Eastern Europe, vampires who are now
leaving blood drained corpses all over the Greater New Orleans

(06:28):
metro area. Many believed that the flying vampires wanted to
return to their caskets. On the convent's third floor, which
is why the windows were permanently sealed with eight hundred
screws made of silver that had been blessed in Rome
by the Pope himself. Moving forward in the seventies, there's

(06:49):
a story about a couple of ghost hunters who ditched
a tour in the convent and decided to hide out
in the courtyard with the intention of spending the night
just to monitor the third floor windows for any sort
of vampire shenanigans, and then their corpses were found the
next morning, drained of blood, but allegedly poked on. Paul

(07:15):
the Second even reblessed the anti vampire screws in nineteen
eighty seven when he visited, and today if you look
up at the third floor of that building, you can
see that the windows are still shuttered to this day.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
What's okay, that's cool?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I mean, do you think of the casket girls imported
old world vampires?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Imagine this twist. Imagine those nuns bringing those girls who
are the vampires.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Oh, I don't know, I know, either the girls or
the vampires or there's tiny vampires in their in their bags.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's just such a good story. Also, like what if
it wasn't vampires, but disease.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
There are some theories, of course. Unsurprisingly, life in the
French colonies was far less romantic than the girls probably
thought it was going to be when they showed up.
You know, we got a bunch of stinky frenchmen that
are fur trappers that are gone all the time, probably
don't really know how to be husbands. Plus the month
long trip across the Atlantic, a lot of them died

(08:24):
from yellow fever and other travel related diseases along the way.
And of course, because they were women of virtue, they
were kept under deck of the ship to protect them
from the world and save their virtue, you know. Hence
that's probably why they were pale and sickly when they
came out. Also, the weather in the colonies was hot

(08:46):
and humid, and that's very different from France, so like
that's going to cause disease as well. A lot of
these women probably just went back to France when they
didn't find suitable husbands, because.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
So they had to get to the colony for example, Right,
they have to get there and find a husband otherwise
or would they be like out on the street.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Like no, they'd be sitting at the convent.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Okay, Okay, the.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
First round of women that came weren't virtuous, so they
didn't have the convent, so they I mean, basically, that
makes everybody a sex worker if you're not quote unquote virtuous. History. Baby,
I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
People are gonna talk about us this way. They're gonna
think that we are so weird for doing things that
we're doing right now.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Why are we using dinosaur bones as fuel right when
we have the sunlight and water, like you could use
hydro power. But anyway, in conclusion, that's not to say
that some of the Casket Women didn't have successful marriages,
because apparently people have tracked descendants from them, and those

(09:49):
are descendants are like Madonna and Angelina Jolie.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Oh wow, yeah, they kind of do look like they
kind of do.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Both of them do look like vampires. But their descendant
from the original Casket.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Girls coming this summer.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Honestly, it's a great story. I'd watch it.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, Michelle, I have this other thing about New Orleans.
Tell me Jean Lafitte's old Absinthe house.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Woo okay, yeah, okay, this sounds good.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
We're gonna go back to eighteen o six and this
building has just been finished. People are using it as
a place to barter, to sell Spanish booze, and like
a regular grocery store. It's kind of an interesting shot.
This is how people used to buy things back then,
just by bartering, here's what I want, here's what you want.
Here you go anyway. So this place had two stories, right,

(10:39):
the first floor. In eighteen thirty six was turned into
a bar, and since then it went through prohivision times.
They also went back to selling alcohol, hired amazing bartenders,
and it has this huge, huge list of very famous
people that visiting. I'm saying Oscar Wilde, Mark Twain, Franklin,

(11:00):
Frank Sinatra, a ton of people. But for such a
famous place, ghosts are automatically assumed they're going to be there.
Out of all the ghosts that people say they claim
to see around these areas, there is this ghost of
a man, Jean Lafitte's. So think of Captain Jack Sparrow,
but then add like this guy who has a good heart.

(11:23):
He's smart, he's a leader, he knows what to do,
he manages multiple ships and crew. He's a pirate. Right,
he gets contacted by the British and he's like, hey,
we need to beat the Americans.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
So this was the War of eighteen twelve.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Man. Yep, okay, I'm going to use Americans in this
context because this is what the people from Europe coined
the New World as Americans, and also wasn't a new world.
It was technically new to them world, if we want
to be politically correct. He gets contacted by the British
and he's like, hey, we need help beating the Americans.
So we need your help because you know all area

(12:00):
New Orleans, you know the all the stuff about it,
you know behind around backwater, safe areas for the ships, everything.
And this guy's like, you know what, No, I can't
help you. Because he's kind of liking the Americans. People
should be thankful for that, but instead he's still kind
of hated by the people in the ports and all
the areas around there. They're like, come on, guy, like
you're stealing things, like we don't like you. So they

(12:23):
like try to destroy his like warehouse or post place
or wherever. So he kind of starts being like, oh,
kind of against people, like oh, why are you treating
me like this? I just you know, I'm kind of
on your side. What's the deal. So he's being rejected
after his stuff got destroyed. John was like, oh dang,
you guys aren't cool anymore. But then guess who steps in,

(12:43):
none other than Katain Andrew Jackson. Andrew Jackson was like, hey, man,
you're a criminal. You're gonna go to jail if he
keeps stealing stuff, but I need your help to beat
the British the pirate. John the Feat was like, okay,
I'll help you, but I want pardons for myself and
for everyone, for nobody to go to jail. They shook

(13:05):
hands that it was done. And supposedly this was done
at this place, Sean Lafite's old Absinthe house by the way.
Andrew Jackson needed the help because they had actually confiscated
some of John's ships, but they didn't have enough people
to drive the ships.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
You mean steer the ships. This don't this happened before
where you don't know boat language.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
So they needed his help again to drive his own
ships and use him again. Right, So, but he knew
how to get everybody. He had crude, He knew everybody right,
so he could get all this stuff done. So and
instead of having those ships just kind of floating there
in the dogs or whatever. He was like, hey, let's
do this. So he was like, okay, cool, and then
he helped them out. They beat the British Entara. Everything

(13:55):
was good. Also, Lafitte was known for like giving all
the strategic info, like to the US maybe saying, hey,
this is where you go, this is how you where
to hide, where to the currents whatever, see speech there
is the feet is now a hero. Right. So this
place where the deal took place went through tragedy, right, Like,
this place was burned down during the Great Friday Fires.

(14:18):
It was rebuilt, then turned into the you know, the
whole grocery store thing, then it turned into a coffeehouse,
Prohibition everything. So the old Absent House was then in
trouble with the government for selling alcohol at one point
during the prohibition because they were selling it in secret
like everybody and one did. But given the history of

(14:38):
people that have come and gone throughout those hundreds of years,
people say to see Jean Lafitte's ghostly apparition hanging out
in the Absent House, as well as Lafitte's blacksmith's shop
and bar, which is apparently a tourist attraction too. It
turns out that there are secret tunnels between the places,

(14:59):
so makes sense for the ghosts to go from one
place to the other, not because he can't just go
through the walls and get there, but because it's what
he used to do.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
We don't know how ghost physics work, true. Could he
go through the walls? We don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Also, the ghost of Marie Leveaux, who was a famous
practitioner of voodoo in New Orleans. It's also known to
roam around the area.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Oh interesting, you know. The rumor is that there's.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Two of them too.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Marie, she was supposed to have this big, long life,
and so people think that her daughter actually took over
at one point.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Oh, that is cool.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
You can go to her grave, which is right near
Nicholas Cage's shrine, which he's still alive via this recording,
but he has his tomb all set up in New
Orleans in that graveyard anyway.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
They say you can see those ghosts there, and also
people in this in Lafite's old absent house, they say
that they see doors slamming, glasses and bottles moving around,
glasses shattering, and every once in a while there's like
a ruckus, just like movement and like things falling and
it's like why. By the way, another fun fact, the

(16:11):
thing that made the old Absent House such a famous
place was this drink by a mixologist named Cayetano fair
Air who made it in the eighteen sixties. And it's
called the Absinthe House Frapei, which is made using absinthe,
which was sort of a narcotic type of thing. You know.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It got banned for a while because there wormwood in
it and you're supposed to make you hallucinate, but it doesn't.
It's just propaganda. It doesn't actually.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Delirium, madness, hallucinations.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
It doesn't do anything death, it doesn't do any of that. Guys.
That was the wine industry in France trying to get
rid of absence.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
So the wine industry, it literally was.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
It was the wine industry being like, don't drink it,
it's poison and it was all fake. But anyway, what's
in the drink.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
It is made with a simple syrup, soda, water and mint.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Oh that actually sounds kind of good.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Let's have some absence, I guess.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Fan corner, Fan fan corner.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
This is such a cool comment from the would You
Visit a ghost Town episode? The Night Guard commented again
the fact that y'all remembered my username specifically makes me
have an unimaginable amount of joy, especially since I've been
listening to not only this podcast, but Scary Story podcast
Interest Scary Story for years in all caps.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Oh yeah, we know, Nightguard.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah wow, thanks for being a part of our community here, the.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Scary FM collective. I guess that's what we're going with.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
We're not a network, We're a collective. Also, another comment
said a while ago, when I was looking up story ideas,
I found one called The Red Room. Basically it's about
a pop up and that says do you like the
Red Room? And it just keeps popping up until whoever
it was sent to his blood is covered on all
the walls of the room from head to toe. Oh
my god, that gave me a kill.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Oh I don't like Hey yeah, it just goes forever
until somehow all your blood.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Is all over Oh what? Okay?

Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know we had that comment from that cute little
kid that was like, if I was a grown up,
I would love this show. Oh yeah, well this isn't
that one, but Spiritual Warrior twenty nine rights. I came
here to make up for that Little Kid's two star review. Lol,
you guys keep me laughing and I usually learned something too.
Y'all mesh perfectly together. Have y'all done an episode on

(18:27):
Black Eyed Kids yet? Or Demons? I love Edwin's other
show too, scary story. Thanks from Texas Fangirl.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, thanks Texas Texas.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Here's a lovely little thing from gee'z Mamo. She wrote,
love you guys, love your show, follow you on other platforms,
and somehow missed you changing the name anyway, keep up
the great work.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Thanks, we will.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
We're still surprising you scarily and mysteriously. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
And then there's another one from ya Squatch. It says
so fun. We'll have the chemistry between Michelle and Edwin
and love these stories. I feel like I'm listening in
on a conversation and laughing along with them. Great show. Yay,
this is Dharma Scientist. It's good. I still think it's okay.
But I don't know why they keep changing their names

(19:15):
of their podcast. Makes it a little confusing. To be fair,
we've only done it one time on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Behind the scenes, let's be real for a minute, we're
trying to grow the audience We're trying to make it
more accessible for new people because we know we have
our ride or dies who are listening to this right now,
which we love. But yeah, we're personally trying to grow
the audience. We could use your help if you love
the show. We need that support to keep it going.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
And that's actually our main way of growing is literally
sending it to somebody, hitting the little share button and
then just setting it to someone.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
We enjoy doing the show and we love your support,
So text the show to someone who.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Might like it.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Okay, soltely, Yeah, back to oh yeah, we were going
to take a shot of ads sense and then put
the fire out, or we dumped the absent on the
fire and watch all these weird demon spirits come out
of it.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Let's see that.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Campfire Story is hosted by Michelle Newman.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
And Edwin Kovarubias. This podcast was edited and sound designed
by Sarah Vorhez Wendel a VW

Speaker 1 (20:23):
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