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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yeah, yeah, old school, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Listening.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
This ain't for everybody. Some of y'all need to hear it.
I know you're in the trenches fighting, but check it out.
I'm gonna put it down like this. Wight can give
him the sings. Understand everything you're going through. It's all
part of the master plant or what you say, cause
you got saved. Everything was gonna be features with Queen.
You better wake up, son. Don't nothing come to a
super foot training work is dead. Reach the Bible. You
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know what he says, he's don't work do blackly don't
get said. Yeah, he's just said. He hoops his hand
to the pot, looks back to say makes fit. Some
of y'all ain't been in the switchers five minutes and
you're bout ready to quit. I ain't mad. I'm just
sitting you with the wheel. If you got from men,
I was still now how you think that makes you feel?
Check this out? He'p gas. This is deep hunt. Some
of y'all saw or nothing, but your son is trying
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to reach something. But I think him was there for
the position of farms fight. His glory trumples might be
part of your testimony, but it ain't been into the stoke.
Now I want to stuff his proper's side way back
in the day. Why I sing the hook right here?
See if the church get lack.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Working out, working up, we wor yes can yes he.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Can think youre not slaying the fire reprob of just
f you you say? Why you what you shut? Shake?
What what Jesus do? Why you're asking if you ain't
trying to do what he's saying. You told you was
gonna have tipulations, but you thought he was playing for
one minute, you telling how good guy the beca't nobody
missing talk the next vintage of back fight so fast.
I'm like your moon walking. Oh yeah, I'm listening to myself, souse.
I ain't no better. It ain't like I've been falling
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at every word, obeying it to the letter. But we
sold us. We gotta remember that. We say yo, yeah,
fou down, say humble, let him annoy. It ain't even
as I thought it was. I've been lying up, I
told you, but it showed up being better all the time. Trusted.
That's fast, ain't if we go through the KP Hill.
God put that on this tub, like they said, you
can shop now if you walk to him. So while
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you go up.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, I've a pump the brakes right there, since I
don't take everybody to church. But it is my belief
that with our big boy upstairs, we wouldn't be able
to do the things that we can do. So it's
my belief, and I give him what he's doing. Welcome
to the show. It's Lemar Patterson. Welcome to kind of
play a play. We have a very exciting show for
you today and hopefully we can touch and enhance and
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inspire and promote, motivate, should do a little something different,
try a little something different. Today we're talking about confused
state of men in society today. I'm gonna love that
because I feel like there's a very few short of
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very shorty should I say, of real men out there today.
But I'm a baby boomer and I guess I could
say that. But let me see as I guess was
today mister Fanseka, are you with us?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I am here, lamon, how are you doing?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Bud? I am too glad to be stressed. As they say, yes, sir,
loud and clear, beautiful, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm doing really good, nice and Sonny over here in Phoenix, Arizona.
So I pumped up excited to help you take your
show to another level.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Well, thank you, thank you. Well give me a second, Armie.
Let me introduce you real quick man, and we'll put
this show and drive man and burn some rubble.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Let's do that today.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Today we have Arnie Franseka with us. He's a strategic
life coach, interventionist hope. I'm saying that right speaker and
consultant is a visionary behind Hopes, Hands of Hope Coaching
and the podcast Answers for Real Men. A company that's
making lasting change the possibility for anyone that's committed to
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creating positive, happier, helpier and more fulfilling experiences in their life,
love and work. And that's where we're going to get
going at Arnie. You got so many positive things going
on with yourself, man, So you know I'm gonna let
you get started and tell our listeners who you are.
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Let's get with that one.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, I tell you what, Laman, I'm a baby boomer myself.
I'm a man that's come through the fire and it's
still going through the fire each and every day because
that's what life is all about. Life is not about
avoiding obstacles. Life is about dealing with them each and
every day, but dealing with them in an appropriate way
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that allows us to grow and to give to the
people and the community around us. And you said it right,
there's a shortage of real men today and sometimes men
don't want to hear that. But that's why I started
doing what I'm doing as a coach, because, Lamon, my
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background is as a teacher and a coach. But back
in the day, you know, thirty five forty years ago,
coaches were guys that went out there and got others
to perform athletically. And from there I went on and
started working with folks that had the traumatic injuries, you know,
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brain and spinal cord injuries. And my own son has
a brain injury. And you actually used to work for me.
But a lot of the things, Lamont, that I the
strategies that I came up with were from years and
years of working with families that were literally at their
ropes end. You know, they didn't have hope. It was
all take. It was stripped away from them in their
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lives because their loved one was not there anymore in
the form that they had known them as and so,
and we don't teach this stuff in programs. We don't
teach this stuff in schools. And actually, I think one
of the problems today is that we're teaching our young
ones to be softer and not to be able to
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handle adversity. And that's creating a lot of problems out
there more than we're more than we know, and we
can discuss them going on. But going back to who
I am, I'm just a man that they came up
with some ideas based on his own life because what
I had to go through and what I went through
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with my clients, and when I closed my business in
twenty twelve because of adversity, I was directed into becoming
a coach. And I go, well, I already am a
coach that and so I started looking into it. And
I started looking into it and started meeting some really
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nice people with the Tony Robbins folks and some of
the other coaching organizations, and I go, I can do this.
And I've been speaking forever, and so I started doing
presentations on different different topics and and and whatnot. But
I love getting up in front of people and I
love doing workshops with people, and I've kind of flowed
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into this guy that will help your business or your
family to to work better, you know, to get along,
whether it's between you and your wife or your girlfriend,
or with you and your kids, or your your workmates,
your team at work, or your or team in general.
Because I like to say I teach the soft skills
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in life, Lamont, because we don't. We don't do that,
and and you know that, and I think that's why
you made the comment that wears a shortage, you know,
and you're basing that on your observations or your own
realities in life. And so I mean, we can start
right there if you want, but that's what I am.
I'm just saying, you know that trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, actually that that is a good a good place
to start, because I look at I guess my first
question of you is why our men confused? But I
just want to say too that based on my own
personal experiences living this thing we call life, you know,
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and I know I could blame a lot of this
on society because I had the opportunity to be a
little boy, you know, play with the big wheels and
the cap guns and the little scooters, we made out
of skates. I had the opportunity to be a little
boy for a little longer time than I see kids now.
I mean seem like kids are thrust into a situation
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where they have to deal with adult issues before they
had the time to be children. And so which sprains
the question is why are men confused? To you? So
that's the first question, and the second, of course is
when did this start?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well, I think men are confused today. A lot of
it has to do, Lamont with the media, you know,
and that involves movies, TV news shows.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I feel bad for a lot of the athletes out
there because you know, they're raised to be aggressive and
perform at a high level, and then they don't. They
don't have outlets to be able to turn it off.
Men in general are put under this amazing amount of
stress to get out there and kill the beasts. But
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at the same time, they don't they haven't been taught
to how to turn off the switch. We don't have
are you know? You got to remember and these are
all statistics that we can check out. There's upwards towards
fifty percent of all homes today Lamont that are fatherless.
So the role models aren't there, the uncles, the pastors
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and churches. Everything's so fast. Nobody has time time for anybody.
I remember many years ago when I joined my church, Lamont,
I just wanted to meet my pastor. It took me
almost six weeks to get an appointment with him. Kidn't
you what if? And I was going through some heavy
duty stuff man at the time, and I had to meet.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Another How long did it take you to put some
money in the collection plate?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Not very long. But I'm telling you what that that
we're dealing with today, and that's why a lot of
churches are not growing. You know, you know, the fastest
growing religious organizations. And this will blow your mind, man,
you know, you know what it is.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
It's aa.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Aa they they they are exploding and they don't They
don't have fancy bands, and they don't have big video
cameras and TV sets, and they don't play football games
and car racing. They just show up and share. Man.
They just get real and that's all we want. And
they don't pass the plate around either. So what I'm
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trying to say is it doesn't take a lot. It
just takes. It just takes giving people, especially men, the
opportunity in a safe environment to share what's in their
hearts and and and right now, young men and even
men our age Lamont are looking for that. I don't care.
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We are looking for that. And so where it started
was the media trying to portray us as something that
we were not. Men and women are different. I don't
care what anybody says. We are different. And when men
treated like men, they're going to start acting like boys.
And at some point point the boys got to put
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away his toys and be a man. But he's not
being taught that. I did a radio show here about
two months ago and we talked about a little study
that they had done that compared to the early sixties
of the month, there were some forty I think it was,
we came up with forty three shows TV movies that
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depicted men as strong, grounded v rale men today three. Now,
you tell me, Jesse, if you're watching this stuff, you
know on TV movies, you know, whether it be Hulu
or whatever they're watching, they're not seeing men acting like men.
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They're seeing men act like Raymond on that show. You know,
it's a funny show. But guess what, I don't want
to be like that. I don't want to be a rashy,
washy guy that's being pushed around by his wife. And
you know what, when I sat the women go ahead.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
No, I was sinna ask you this from this point too.
And I know we we mentioned earlier that you know,
it's fifty percent of men homes are fatherless. And do
you think you know that that the young boys that
are raised by you know, the women that are you know,
angry with the dads, and you know, all the little
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dynamics to go into, you know, raising that because you know,
I've done tons of shows talking about this too, where
you know there's women that don't want the little boys
to go outside and play baseball or ride bicycles because
they're afraid that they don't get hurt or get a
scratch on them. But to me, as a father, that's
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what little boys do, you.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Know what I mean, That's that's what we do.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So that's where we are. We established a difference between
you know, the young male growing up versus a young female.
You know, And there's a a man today, I run
it down. Man don't even know how to change a
flat on the car, And I'm like.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
What that's right.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I mean, you know you're worth.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
No, you know you're right, You're right. I was listening
to I was listening to a national radio show hosted
by a lady and she has three children, two boys,
and she was talking to actually she was talking to
Mike Rowe dirty Jobs guy, and said, you know, we
need to come up with a boys camp, uh, you know,
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to teach you know, on the weekends, to teach men
how to change a tire and build things. Uh put
you know, do things that we used to do many
years ago. You know, even though I had a terrible
relationship with my dad, but at least I was out
there or my friends. I mean, we're we're doing things
and and because there wasn't any TV and video games.
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But at the same time, he goes, well, we kind
of have that. He mentioned the Scouts and stuff like that.
But she was really adamant about the fact that we
need to have a place where boys can go on
the weekend, not to just go to soccer games and
all these other sports that we're doing, which is fine,
but I think we're obsessed with that as well, because
we all think our kids are going to become professional
athletes and instead of we need to we need how
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about making our kids into professional men, because you know,
we need we need mentors, we need men to step
up in your community. You know, there's so many ways
that even guys that it. And I don't want to
put the blame on these ladies because ladies are doing
the best they can because they don't know how. And
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that's why when I watch on TV or see these
reports and you know that there are no differences between
men and women, you know, my hand goes up and says, bs,
just ask somebody these women that are raising these these
young men, it's hard and they need they need a
man in their life, a strong man that's going to
pull them aside and say that's dumb or that's that's
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how you do it. And we're just not getting that.
And to put that on women that that is it's
just not right. But you know, and again we there's
there's mutual We got to share this thing mutually because relate.
And that's where I get when I do a lot
of relationship coaching. There's a lot of blame to go around,
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But forget all that, it's how about starting to grow.
Let's what do we need to learn Lamont. What do
we need to learn? And that's where I think shows
like yours are powerful because you reach an audience. Guy
try to do that needs to hear the fact that
let's let's forget about what happened yesterday, that that ended
last night. Let's start the growth process. What do we
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need to learn? I mean, that's the first thing I
asked you, guys, what do you need to learn? What
do you need to do to start the healing process here?
Whether it's with your ex, or with your kids, or
with the guy next to in the portal at work,
or with the girl you're trying to date, whatever, What
do you need to learn that you haven't been taught
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instead of trying to stake it okay, instead of instead
of you know, listening to the guy on the corner
that doesn't have a clue himself, What do you need
to learn and starting there? Man? Because you know what
you know when kids when when kids are raising kids
on the street, man, it's a mess.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Well that's where your gang activity is because they know
any structure at home, so you know they're gonna find
it wherever they can find it. And it's again, you know,
it's a vicious it's it's it's a vicious it's a
vicious cycle. Because here we got society, and I'm gonna
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put a lot of it on society, which is different
than when you and I were growing up, because there
was a time where, uh, if you and I got
caught doing something wrong, you know, we got sent to
the pe teacher. You know, we got sent to you know, teachers,
and here comes here and here come the paddle, Here
comes the swats. You know, we get swats, then we
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get then we get sent home, and then we're gonna
get it again. Uh, there was a time, there was
a time when you know, children, you know, parents were
allowed really to be parents where you were allowed to,
you know, to discipline your children. So now you can't
discipline your children because if you're discipline your children at home,
you know, you're facing you know, abuse situations, you know,
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and then it's okay for you not to be able
to discipline your children, but it's okay for the police
to kill them. I don't get that. I just don't
don't get it. Right.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
No, that's where.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Are you exactly? I was never I was never ever, ever, ever,
ever ever ever ever ever allowed to disrespect my teachers.
I was never allowed to do.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
That, right, Yeah, but there's no but but the kids,
kids aren't dumb, Lamont. They know there's no consequences, the
kids going home to an empty house most of the time,
or when he even goes home and bringing up gangs again.
You know, gangs provide, uh, they they provide an addiction
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for young men because they they give them a certain
a sense of certainty. They also give them a because
the gang's there for them. They give them a sense
of excitement, a variety. They don't know what's going to
happen next, there's there's there's something exciting going to happen.
They give them a sense of connection with other guys,
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you know, they actually and they also give them an identity.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Guess what.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
That's an addiction man, any of us, if we do
any activity in our life, it gives us those four things, Lamont,
we are addicted.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
And how about this? How about this? Other words anie
structure dysfunctional as maybe it's some form of structure.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Oh yeah, heck yes. And kids. You know, I've been
coaching men, you know since the early eighties, Okay, as
a as a football, wrestling, baseball coach. You know, whatever
I mean. I love these. Some of my greatest friends
today Lamont are men that I coached in the late
seventies and early eighties. These are men that went through hell.
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And you know what, they still call me coach and
they and we talked just like just just like we
never were apart man. And but that's because these were
all I call them my misfifs, a lot of these guys,
but they but they were looking for structure, and we
were in schools back then, we were allowed to give
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them structure. Families. When we grew up Lamont, we had structure.
Even even though I didn't get along with my dad,
I knew when dinner was, I knew my mom. I
knew when when when I was out with my buddies.
If I didn't call, I was gonna get my butt
kicked when I got home. We had, we had certain
rules and structure that we had to follow or we
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there were the consequence whether we lost the car keys
or whatever, you know, or when we were young enough
we got it. You know, we got some some piece
of our behind handed to us. But there was there
was a price for And it doesn't have to be cruel,
it doesn't have to be and it wasn't. We didn't
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like it. I'm not saying I enjoyed it, but you
know what, you and I can sit here and both
agree with my brother that when we were when we
were out, we screwed up. We knew screwed up. We
didn't have to, We didn't have to come home and
make up a story about it. We screwed up.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
You know. We knew, we knew what he look, we
knew why, we knew it. Yeah, we are, We knew
what we were doing. We had that little that he look,
that little devil on your shoulder, like, that's right, though
you shouldn't be doing this ship and then that other
one on the other side. Man, go ahead, man, you
can go ahead and do it this that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
We knew we were out there chasing you know what,
and we knew it was gonna cause us to be
two hours late. It's all right. We knew, and we
had we had to fess up. We had a man up.
We had you know, my dad didn't have to, he
didn't have to, He didn't have to say anything. He
just he just he knew. We knew. There was no uh,
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there was no story time, you know and so, But
today it's all story times because we get to we
get to blame and complain because it wasn't us first
way that men step out of their responsibility. Today, lamont
we get they we can, we blame somebody else and
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we complain about what life throws as throws throws away?
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Uh, Arnie. Did we put a time frame or did
we put a period on? You know, people always tell
me about period pieces. Did we put a period on?
When does this start? I mean, do you think it
starts earlier in the home? I mean it's confusion with men.
I mean is there a time in your opinion that
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you felt that you feel that started.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I think the time was that probably somewheres around the
mid to late eighties. I think it started.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
A lot of it had to do with.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Some of the technology, technological changes going on, some of
the sociological changes going on, with how we treated our children,
the fact that the media wanted us to I think
there's stories and Time magazine way back in the nineties
that you know.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Of.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Wanting men and women to be the same and treating
everybody the same. I think a lot of that came in.
You started to see the shift. Like I said, with
the TV show Raymond, which is an early nineties show,
the shift and how men were viewed in society as
away from the John Wayne type to the to the
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soft cuddly guy, you know, and so that started to
take its toll.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Man, So you feel like doing that that transition right there,
The men started losing a little bit of their lustrous
far as me in the head of the household, the
strong those two guy yep.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, yep, and they started losing. And I tell you what,
they locked And I talked to women all the time.
They started losing respected women. And if you talk to Anyonoman,
sure they all. Everybody likes to be around a guy
that is mushy and does everything they tell him to do.
But after a while they don't respect that guy. Yeah,
and they get rid.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Right real quick, too, real quick.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
He's fun to be around for a while. And then
they go, I got girlfriends to do this, goodbye, and
they talk over the guy to come over.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
And charge my battery? Can you come over charge my battery?
Yet know how to open the hoods?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
They don't, they don't. They don't know how to do
anything like that, you know, And it's it's sad, you know,
and you know is that the guy is he the
guy at home and there's a loud noise that's gonna
it's gonna pick up a batter head out outside and
see what's going on? Or is he looking at her
going on, are you gonna do something? Or I'm gonna
do something right? After a while, yeah, And after a
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while he's going, why are you here? Man? You know
you're not You're not adding any value to my life.
You're fun, you're cuddly, But so what, there's a lot
of there's a lot of fun, cuddly. I got I
got stuffed animals on my bed. They'll do that.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Let me let me hit you with this one, man,
because I've had this into now they're in society. You
know that there's a lot of high profile, high profile
female in the world now that have you know, a
lot of great jobs, make a whole lot of money,
and there's a lot of problems within the household because
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you know, they're the major breadwinner. Their their husband, significant
other or whatever make a little, maybe sometimes a lot
less money. So they tend to want to gauge their
respect level based on their income. When you when you
coach people families, do you ever run up on those issues?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Sure, but that comes from my one of my first activities.
I have men do in women as well. I have them.
I caught my mirror work. Nothing that I didn't mean.
I didn't invent it, but it works. Can this guy
looking mirror and tell himself ten things that he loves
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about himself, Lament, Because unless he can do that, then
he's going to be looking at stuff like money and
all these material things that don't mean a dang thing.
Because if he if he has self worth and he
believes he's worth it, then that's not going to be
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an issue. You know a guy, a guy that married
a guy with strong self esteem and is grounded and
knows himself, because until you know your self, Lamont, you
shouldn't be dating and getting married anyway. So if he
knows himself and he runs across a strong female like that,
first of all, she will be attracted to him as
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a strong man. Now, she may initially be attracted to
him because he might be a good looking man blah
blah blah and and and carries himself well, but finds
out after a while that you know, he doesn't have
a job or he doesn't have this. Now that's up
to her if she wants to stay with him. But
let's say that they do connect, and he is confident,
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and he is working hard at what he does. You know,
he could be a school teacher, he could be the
best damn school teacher in town. And she could be
a lawyer. Well, she's gonna make ten times money he's making.
But you know what, he is a proud man making
a difference in his community, you know. And and he
treats her like a lady unless she doesn't want it
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to work. Now she only wants to hang around with
people that a power, that have more income than her. Okay,
then then don't get married, Okay, because it goes both
ways as well. And because if you're if you're a
confident man and you want to be, you could be.
You could be driving a garbage truck for all I care.
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And you are, and you're going to be the best
garbage truck driver on a planet. And you are strong,
and you carry yourself well, and you're confident, and you
know how to treat a lady, and you're and you're
and you're a phenomenal dad and you love, and you
love what you do and you love people. Guess what,
There's nothing wrong with that at all, right, And but
that's what it comes down to. So so yeah, I mean, sure,
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it's an issue. It's an issue if they want it
to be an issue. It's not an issue, Lamont. If
you have the key to the key to a great relationship,
Lamont is two people that know themselves, know their personalities,
know their wants, know their know the things that they
need to change about themselves that only they can change,
not the other person. And know and love unconditionally, because
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if you love somebody unconditionally, it doesn't matter how much
money you make. Lamant. Conditionally means without conditions.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Wow, that's a powerful statement too, because but how many
of us today in this fast paced society really knows how.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
To do that? We don't. That's where that's why what
I'm doing right now is an impactful thing. And I'm
not the only one doing it. But there's there's a
huge need out there. And the reason, Lamont, that there's
a huge need is because men. Men don't talk. They suffer. Okay,
they suffer because we don't.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Because we just snake snails and the puppy dog tails
and whatever and a sugar spice and everything nice. So
so when we want to at least talk, and I
have this other saying too that men sharpened men and
still sharp and still you got to believe them because
real men you could talk to and have a real
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honest conversation and they know how to deal with corrective
criticism and and they accept that and they learn and
then grow from that. And then you could talk to
another type of guy that you would consider is a man,
and you know, they won't look you eye the eye,
They'll look off and you can kind of almost tell
instantly that you wasted your breath. Yeah, you know they're
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not ready, they're not ready to receive the message.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
No, they're not. And that's what and that's the vast majority.
Let me tell you a quick story that this was
an article that I ran across that was it was
in the early two thousands, and it's we're going to
use some animals here as as a metaphor. But in
South Africa they had these gigantic game reserves right well,
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in one of them, there was a there was a
large group of elephants and it was getting too big
for the preserve. So what they did is they moved
some of the younger elephants over to another preserve. It's
a true story and you can look it up online.
But and they noticed after a few years something was
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going on. They saw some of the white rhinos and
some of the very some of these animals were being
killed and they thought their poachers would come in in
there and killing them. So they put cameras up in
the park and what they found was blew their mind.
They found that these young elephants had grown together and
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became a gang and were going around and terrorizing these
other animals. And yeah, so so they put their brains together,
said what.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Have we got to?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So we need a solution of this. So here's what
they did. They went back to the old parks and
they found the biggest, baddest bull elephants they could find.
And they'd never done this before. Remember, they moved the
younger elephants, so they had to they had to create
these massive, massive trucks that had not been developed yet
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in order to move these gigantic bull elephants. And they
pulled They brought in a few of them and put
them in the park, and within weeks Lamont weeks, these
old bulls straighten these young young whipper snappers out. They
put them in their place real fast, and it all stopped.
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And so part of my part of my vision as
a coach, as a men's strategic coach, Lamont, is to
find other bulls like me and you're like yourself, that
want to say, stop enough of this nonsense. We need
to come together as men and say, young guys, listen,
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And it starts with us, Lament, because if we don't
change our own selves, if we don't get our own
relationships lined up right, if we don't start treating ladies
the way we're supposed to, then these young guys in
the NFL and all these other guys that are going
around slapping women and doing stupid things when they don't
need to, they're going to keep doing that stuff, you know,
because they got money. They can pay, They can pay
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their way out of stuff. But they need to see,
they need to see John Wayne step up and say,
this is how you treat the lady. This is how
you respond to what life. When life kicks you in
the teeth, you don't run around and complain and blame
about it. You figure it out Okay, Sometimes the obstacle
is the way. Sometimes what's blocking your way in life
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is what is going to provide you the way, Okay,
instead of instead of just running around it all the time,
let's figure it out and that it's gonna and it takes.
It takes guys like us Lamont. They're going to say, listen,
I can help you, you know I can. I can
work with you. You know, we can come up with
some strategies. I can help you make the changes you
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want to make if you want to make them. I'm
not gonna make you do anything, and I'll and I'll
be here to listen to you too when you need,
when you need somebody that's going to listen to you
and hug you. You know, I was at my forties
reunion last night Lamont High School, and you know what's
neat about that is I went around the room and
this first time I've done this in all the years
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I've gone back to these things, and I was hugging
more men than you can shake stick at. Dude. It
wasn't about handshakes, hugs man. And you know what that takes.
That takes courage from today's world. When you have man
in your fifties that are willing to hug each other
and not worrying about what society's going to think. We
need that because that's to me, that's the icebreaker that says, hey,
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I'm here for you to hear your stories.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And there's a lot of guys in that room I wanted.
I wanted to go and hug too, because I could.
I was As a coach, I've gotten very good at
looking in people's eyes Lamont and know that there's trouble.
If there's a man that's hurting, he needs another man
that's just say hey, I'm here for you. And there's
one guy in particular, and I put him in my
journal this morning to pray for because I do that
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every morning, I write down people that I want to
pray for. And I wrote his name down because and
I prayed for him this morning that you know, he
was troubled and he needed somebody I could tell that
he to want to talk to him. But it was
just so much going on and the music and everything,
and you know, you can't talk to everybody. But what
really troubled my heart. But but we need, we need
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guys to step and doesn't have to be just guys
are ay to be man in their twenties and thirties,
you know, these young millennials. I love talking to millennials
because some of them are really neat guys to get around.
But there's a lot of them that are just out
there just screwing up. Man.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Well, Arnie, I think too. What the guys need to
do is learn how to get out of their own way,
you know. I mean they deal a lot with these
little fake egos and this fake pride, you know what
I mean to me, the issue is what's more fake
to you? I mean to put up this facade or
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get past that and really talk to somebody that could
could give you the answers you know, such a self
like what you're talking about. I mean, guys they don't
want to come up and talk because they feel like
it's going to make them weak or feel less than
you know, but to me, they should feel just the opposite.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
It.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
If I don't confront this demon, if I don't deal
with this issue, that's weak, right, No, No, no.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
It's it's that's the confusion lamon what's what is what
is a real?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Man?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I mean? You know, to me, I go through some
things where you know, a real man has got to
he's got to reject this pastivity stuff. We gotta, we
got to reject it, you know, and we're not doing that.
We're not. We're in a lot of it. We could
say they don't know, but I don't know. I mean,
it's kind of like when I coach people that want
to lose weight. You know, is there anybody that you know,
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Lamont that doesn't understand that that sugar's bad form? You know,
they we all know that, right, Just like you know,
years ago, how many how many people knew that smoking
is bad for you? Right? Did somebody have to keep
telling you that smoking's bad for you?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
I don't know. I mean, but in today's world, it
seems like, you know, uh, we need to reject this
pastivity because but I think it will help. I really
do believe that it will help to get to be
surrounded by other men that are showing us the right path.
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I mean, as a coach, part of what I do
is is tell people know this, don't go right, go left.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
It's like if I was coaching a football team, I'm
gonna call to play, but you got to run the play.
But we're gonna practice first. I'm gonna teach you the
skills you need. So I'm gonna teach you how to
be a man. We're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna, you know,
like like I talked about earlier about that man class.
I'm gonna teach you how to change a tire. I'm
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gonna teach you how to treat a lady. I'm gonna
teach you how to talk. I'm gonna teach you how
to carry yourself, teach how to love yourself, like you
freaking life depends on it.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Uh, why are men? Wh are men committing suicide? You know?
Don't come on.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
So my question to you here is when you when
you when you advising them, coaching them, do you feel
that this because I think a lot of these guys
have a I don't know. The Indians used to say
they need more iron in they word, which takes me
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to the point that I think the guys are weak
in character. How how do you how do you feel
their character? Because I deal with people professionals all the
time in my industry, you know, and and stuff come
out of their mouth for them, like why do they
volunteer me a lie. You know, they don't have to
do that. They don't owe me no money. I don't
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owe them nothing, you know what I'm saying. So why
why would you just lie? Where does that come from?
You don't you don't really have to do that, And
to me, it creates a disrespect issue with me, and
I don't. I don't say nothing because they tell me
the only thing worse than disrespect is no respect.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, well that's step two.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
Why do men today, Yeah, why these men today just
feel the need to volunteer lives.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Well, here you go, after rejecting passivity, Number two is
they have to accept responsibility for their lives. And so
what happens a lot of times, Lamont is they they're
going to make up a story, man, because they don't
want to accept responsibility for what's going on in their lives.
So it's easier to tell mamana's story some bs, some
nonsense and figuring, well he's not he won't check me out,
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or he won't do this, whatever it is. They're going
to tell themselves a story instead of changing themselves. Because
you know, like I said earlier about complaining and blaming,
you know, the first thing we can do to better
to to better our situation. It's not always the easiest
is to make a change, you know, go back to school, know,
take a class. Uh, talk to Lamont, Hey, Lamon, Uh,
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you know, come to you man and basically be on
your knees and say, Laman, I need your help, man,
I need some advice, and then be willing, be willing
to take it and do something with it. Courage man,
because that's step three is as far as leading courageously
and that comes as leading your own life courageously. So
to answer your question, these men, uh, it takes a
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lot of guts and courage and bravery to do the
things you're doing, to tell the truth to to and
that comes back to do they love themselves? Lamont? Can
that can that man look at in the mirror, in
the mirror and say, I love I love Arnie because
Arnie is a man of integrity, Arnie is a man
of courage. Arnie's word is everything.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I had A guy coached me a long time ago.
He was an old football coach. He's now a speaker
and a coach. He's one of the guys that helped
me get into this. And actually his name is Joe Pichie,
and he told me years and years ago. He goes,
when he was coaching football at Youngstown State, he said, Arnie,
he goes, one of the things I want I share
with men all the time. And this is before the
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age of computers and stuff. He goes, return every phone call.
And he goes, when I was coaching, these young men
would come to my office and want me to help
them the things, and I had other coaches call me
to help them get into schools. He goes, I don't
care if it was midnight. I returned the phone calls.
And you know what that built. That built integrity with
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these other coaches and these other programs around the country.
So whenever I showed up at a conference and whatnot,
I may not have been at the biggest school, but
these coaches all respected me because I was a man
of my words. And I tell people that all the time.
I said, you want to make a difference right now.
You return every text, you return every email, you return
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every voice message. You return these things. You know, And
because I get sick of it, just like you do.
You know, you leave a message with somebody and get
it or or text or something, and it's all blown off,
and all that does is build there's no integrity there
is there, right, No, no, no, we're not teaching it anymore.
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We're not teaching it. We're teaching do your own thing.
That's what we're teaching.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Or they'll tell you some stuff to tell some stupid
stuff like well I called you, didn't you see my number?
And I'm like, look, man, I get a thousand phone
calls a day. Do you think I got a time
to sit here and look at my phone to see
who called? The hang up?
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah? No, I know.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Well, I mean it's what they want.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
I mean, if it's something, if it's something that they want,
it's really important. Well, boy, man, you better get back
to them, right Yeah. Well they're going to come down
on you like a hailstorm, but.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
That you know.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
But lamont, honestly, that's what we need shows like yours.
That's why what I call the men's face is growing,
meaning that guys like me and there's a there's there's
a lot of us we're reading time men aren't going
to have. We're gonna take away that excuse and says,
well I don't have anybody talk to Yes you did.
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We're out here we're out here, and you guys.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I wish yeah, make a press number one on the
phone right now and enjoying this conversation, because that's right.
I would like to see more men stand up and
be men so the women can go back and start
being women because I'm tired of seeing these women look
like men, right.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
You know, and you know what, go back and when
we get off. No, no, I hear, you're exactly what
women do. Want to be women. I can't I believe,
I don't care. I don't care what anybody says. You know,
you get them behind a closed door, and you set
these women down after they stop crying, because they're gonna
get emotional. They are they are looking for real men.
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I'm in a lot of relationship groups on Facebook and whatnot,
and man o, man, I about want to pull my
pull every last hair out of my head because these
poor ladies. And I'll be honest with you, some of
it's their fault. I'm not blaming everybody everything on men
because men taking up abuse. But I tell you what,
they are looking for a guy that was going to
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step up and and and you know, honestly, and I
when I say this, because I mean it, but they
are looking for a guy on a white horse to
come up and take them on a grand adventure. And
then on the other side of it, they'll make fun
of that, and men will make fun of that. And
you know what I say to that b as, you
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know what, that's a standard, and lamont. Unless we set
the standard high enough, we are in for a real,
real awakening, a real mess on our hands. It's bigger
than we can ever imagine because women are And go ahead, no.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
I want to just throw a little flip side of
that too, since we're gonna be fair on this show today. Women,
stop sending your daughters out there to go find this
guy this white horse to come save you and rescue
you while you don't educate your daughter. So when they
find this guy, they got some of the brain to
the table.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
You know, you better believe that.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
They look good, they look pretty, they have nice bodies.
They don't know how to cook, they don't know how
to type, they don't they don't have to do nothing.
So when this guy on this white horse, nine times
out of ten, he's going to be a businessman, a professional.
So what happens to this guy break his leg, break
his arm, can't work no more need you to take
over his enterprise. But you can't do that because you
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know how to do nothing but make Hamburger help her.
That's right, lady, I step step your game up too.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
You're exactly right, Lamar. And I get so annoyed about
it when I see some of these ladies posting some
of this nonsense that they're doing, and look and looking.
They want these men to be boys, and they and
they encourage them to act like boys, and then then
they turn around and they get they get all hurt
or they're all when they get rejected, and because they
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get treated like a toy. And I'm saying to myself, well,
what do you expect. You've encouraged them to act irresponsibly,
You've encouraged them to act like little boys, and then
all of a sudden, when it doesn't go your way,
it's like, oh, you know, my world is falling apart. Well,
guess what if we start from the beginning. It's like
those saying, goes Amon, all that begins well has a
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great chance to end well, all that begins terribly good.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Luck, good luck.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
So you know, you know, how can you get in
a relationship with somebody, Like I said earlier, if you
don't even know who you are, and so you're exactly
right until these ladies, you know, if they want to
attract I always look at this way, What do I
want want? Who do I want.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
As a man?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
You know? Boom boom boom, list one hundred things I
don't care. And then I gotta look at that list
and say, Man, if I'm going to attract that man,
what do I need to be in myself to attract that?
Do I need to be good looking? Sure? Do I
need to dress well great? Do I need to have
good hygiene? Probably? Do I need to know how to cook?
Do I need to learn how to do these other things?
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Keep a home? Do I need to learn how to
do business? If I want to attract an entrepreneur, do
I need to be flexible? Do I need to be
accepting of his schedule? Do I need to if I
want to If I want to run my own business
and say and be attracted another entrepreneur, do I need
to know how? Do you have these business skills as well?
Maybe maybe I need to go to school and learn
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that stuff. But you got to know what you want
Lamont first, and then you look at it and you go, Okay,
who do I need to be Because some man going
in there trying to change her. That's going to create
a lot of animosity, a lot of friction. It's not
going to work. Just like you trying to treat you,
try to came an entrepreneur and say you need to
be home at a certain time and do this. Good luck,
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You're gonna drive yourself crazy because entrepreneurs, we are out
there spinning it man twenty four to seven. Our brains
are on fire because that's what we do. And so
if you're in a relationship like that, all you're gonna
do is create problems for yourself. So it has to
come down to what they want, who they need to become,
and then are they willing to do the things in
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their lives the changes to attract this man, and and
maybe go to their moms, you know, and say, hey, mom,
I need help with this. I need to learn how
to I need to learn how to clean, I need
to learn how to do laundry, I need to learn
how to do These things are important because I know
this as a man. My mom you know she did.
She taught me how to do all these things. You
know why I could, and I don't know if it
was the healthiest thing in the world. But she said,
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I don't want you to ever be dependent on a woman.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
That was I got the same list, mode, I got
the same listen.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
I don't need, no, I don't need Sometimes that drives
my wife crazy because my wife is a good cook,
but I don't need her to cook for me. You know,
I don't need her to because I was done with
a traumatic brain injury and that takes a lot of
energy out of her. And there are so I'll make
my own meals, you know. I'll make meals for her,
and I you know, I'll do the laundry. She may
not like the way I do her laundry, but I'll
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do the laundry.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
You know.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
There was a time when you know, there are certain
days that I'll clean, you know. And I drove her,
I really. She was gone for a couple of months
this summer with my daughter and my son.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
And.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
She wanted me to hire cleaning. I said, I do it,
I'll do it, and she goes, oh really, And I did.
I cleaned this house like you wouldn't believe. I learned
a lot man, And she was totally impressed with it.
So next time I have to do that, I mean,
I probably hire somebody, but I can do it. But
I but I but I did it, you know, I
stepped up. And we can do these things. Man can
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do these things, we can we can grow, you know.
And so if man can do it, women can do
it as well. And guess what strong relationships Lamont. It's
not about you know. Money's great. Money gives us options,
you know, But besides our spiritual lives and our health,
the rest of it are things we can learn how
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to do. I can learn how to please my wife
if I want to, you know, but she can't make
me do it. I have to wonder to do right now.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
That's how it is, though, if people want to change,
if men want to change, they first have to want
to it. And women need to understand they can't teach
a man how to be a man. He can't make
a man.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
They better go out they want a man, Lamont. If
a woman wants a man, she has to go out
and find the man. She can't go out and find
a boy and say I'm gonna turn him into a man.
That will never work.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
But they do it over again because they want.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
To go out.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Oh yeah, and it's yeah, but you know what lament
isn't it? Haven't you found this in your own life
and with many year round? If if I told men
some men last night, I said, if you go through
a bad relationship, divorce, whatever it is, the next one
should be better. If you learn from the previous, it
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should be better because you can describe your nightmare to
avoid it. The problem is, you see it all the time.
I see it all the time. We go back and
repeat the same nonsense because we didn't learn from it,
and it's worse.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
It's funny, Hey, look the same same body type, same built,
same look, same attitude.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah, I see it all the time. It drives me
not but what are you doing? And it's like it's
you should you know. I don't like to start on
the negative side of it with these, especially with ladies.
When I'm coaching ladies and to describe your nightmare and
they describe, well, I don't want anybody that drinks. I
don't obte those drugs. I don't anybody that hits me.
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I don't want boom boom, boom boom. But the list
ten things they don't want, right and then the next
thing you turn around is like here they are dating
some idiot again because he looked good, smelled good, had
a nice car, but he treated her like old.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
Yep, same old. They come out of the same old,
same thing. The only thing different is the name.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
The name I like.
Speaker 3 (53:36):
I like to tell the guys that they stuck on stupid.
I don't know ilse to explain it. Come on doing
exact the same thing, but it's the same, exact, same thing,
same thing. She's the same way. Uh, she's a gold digger.
She cared nothing about you, just the same time. They
take the same type people all the time, and when
they get the same results, they like, well, well well
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what happened. Yeah, well you is what happened.
Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah. Yeah, it's not ignorant anymore. Once you've gone through it,
you ain't ignorant anymore. You're just dumb.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Yeah, you're just glutton for punishing, you a glutting punishment
to go over there and take it and just shut up,
leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (54:16):
I like this one better when I do a lot
of when I'm doing my dating stuff, it's like, look,
the love at first sight is real, it's a chemical thing.
It's actually a chemical process in our body when we
meet somebody like that. And then I go, then what
because you can only spend so much time doing you
know what? And then you better Then you better be
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able to carry on a conversation. Then you better be
able to have some common interest. Then you better be
able to do some things to create a relationship, or
you are in for a nightmare. You're in for a nightmare.
But I see it happen time and time and time again.
They just go out, they meet that that person that
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looks great, feels good, makes them feel good. And if
you are in, if you're looking for a relationship, you're
in for trouble. If you're just looking to just you know,
a one night's stand, okay, but at some point, you know,
at some point you're going to have to take a
stand in your life and create something for yourself, or
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you're you're in. You're just in for a lot of heartaches.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
Well, Arnie, we got oh man, the time be flying
when we're having fun. But we have a few minutes
left on the show. Could we touch on your son
and your situation with that quickly?
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, real quick. He's thirty seven years old. He used
to work for me when I had my first my
first rehab company. I used to own some physical therapy
where we did brain we actually did brain and spinal
cord injury. Think about it. And so one one afternoon
seventeen years ago, well sixteen years going two thousand and one,
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he had some cancelations and decided to go out drinking
and driving with his buddies and bams got his buddy
best friend died in the accident. He received a traumatic
brain injury. And so my wife is the number one caregiver.
She takes she does everything for him. She gets the
(56:14):
best care in the world. But it is taking its
toll on her physically, emotionally, mentaling, spiritually, and on our relationship.
But it's taught me a lot about relationship work, Lamont.
It's taught me a lot about being a man. It's
taught me a lot on how to tell other men
and teach other men that there are things you can
do if you want to. But yeah, he's totally dependent.
(56:35):
He can't talk, walk, He needs twenty four hour care.
And just like today, I'm here talking to you and
he's in the other room. I'm taking care of him
because my wife is out of town, visiting my daughter
in LA and I'll be picking her up about an
hour after I get off the show with you because
she needed that time. And that's just the way it works.
Speaker 3 (57:00):
Man.
Speaker 2 (57:00):
Some people might say that ain't fair. I've had many
men in my life, doming Arnie. Why do you guys
do that? And I say, well, because he's our son,
it's what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
And that goes back to what we were talking about
to a lot of these guys need to start looking
themselves in the mirror every day and ask them who
they are. And I guess when they get the answer
to that, then they will also find out how to
approach to address the situation. Because either way you're going
to be, you're either going to be a man up
(57:29):
or a man down. I guess.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
No, You're exactly right, Laman. It's either you either step up.
And you know what, I forgive everybody. You know what,
I'm not here on this planet to judge anybody. I
will forgive you. I will love you and forgive you.
I will encourage you, and I will I will try
to understand you. I will never try to make you
(57:54):
do anything that you do not want to do, and
that's just that's the growth that I've gone through my
life as a coach, you know, to encourage and understand
because as men we all want that. As people, we
want that. We just want to be encouraged and understood.
But I tell you what you know. On the other
(58:14):
side of that, you know, I don't want to be
told what to do by you. And but but if
somebody's living the living the word, and live in their word, amont,
I have nothing but respect for that, you know. And
we need more men that are just going to step up,
like you said, and and be who they are. Be
if their word says I'm a man and they're and
(58:35):
that's what they live and that's what they project. Man,
I got nothing but respect for that. Man, I don't
care who they are. I got nothing but respect for that.
And uh, we.
Speaker 3 (58:49):
Don't want to cut the show off. It's bout twenty
minutes left, but I want you to come back again
and join us again, and this show will be available
for all those just joined us late. It'll be available
world wide and then next minute or less so you
can catch it in its entirety. And Arnie, I want
to thank you again for joining us, and I want
to invite you to come back and see us soon
(59:10):
so we can continue.
Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yeah with Hey, do you mind if I tell people
where they can go find me a little.
Speaker 3 (59:14):
Bit, go ahead, put it in.
Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah, let's go. You can go two places Total Recovery
Arizona dot com. You can also check out my podcast
Answers for Real Men on iTunes. Would love to have
you come over there and check it out. Subscribe, and
my podcast website is Answers for Real Men. And if
you got the courage and the guts, give me a call.
I'll talk to anybody because a phone call could change
(59:38):
your life. Six oh two three nine oho nine one
four four six o two three nine oho nine one
four four. Like I said, one phone call could change
your life.
Speaker 3 (59:49):
Absolutely. And thank you again, Arnie, and uh spread the
word and we'll continue to do the same.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
Thank you, my brother, and I'll be in contact with you.
I love what you're doing and I would love to
to help you out some more. You're you're a blessing.
Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Thank you, Thank you, sir, Love you too, peace.
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Love you bye brother, bye bye mm hmmmm.
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Oh, I need a first in this that I've had
the fond with some of the word sir. Let them
they can get strong sometimes, but have.
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Been last too long by always seen to call me
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