December 18, 2024 • 30 mins
Washcloths or no washcloths? Lotion every day or nah? Al and Justice dive into a refreshingly candid (and hilarious) conversation about hygiene and cleanliness—because how we clean and care for ourselves can reveal a lot more than you'd think.
From cultural differences around towels and skincare routines to the importance of understanding other people’s perspectives, this episode has it all.
Spoiler: you'll never look at a washcloth the same way again.With plenty of laughs, insights, and plans for future episodes, this one’s a must-listen for anyone who’s ever wondered why your friends really think your towel habits are weird.
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From cultural differences around towels and skincare routines to the importance of understanding other people’s perspectives, this episode has it all.
Spoiler: you'll never look at a washcloth the same way again.With plenty of laughs, insights, and plans for future episodes, this one’s a must-listen for anyone who’s ever wondered why your friends really think your towel habits are weird.
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And don’t forget to grab some podcast merch at the SayWHA Shop!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Do not ask you something? Sence it bye, say what? Video?
Here we go. I don't know about you, but I
never saw our conversations as uncomfortable. I had the understanding of, well,
if he's asking, he's wanting the truth, whether it's uncomfortable
(00:24):
or actually, don't hit him upside the head. It is
what it is. He ad for it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I think the uncomfortableness comes from kind of the whole
idea behind this podcast is like, I don't know if
it's okay if I ask this and that is my question, okay,
but is me asking the question going to be perceived
as okay?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Say? Well, all right, all right, all right, welcome to
Can I ask you something? I am one of your hosts,
al and I'm joined by the Queen of say What
radio jump just please.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I am curtseying as we.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Speak everything you've said all day.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, yeah, I got to put your kurtsy in.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well, welcome, Welcome to the show. Last episode was a
little bit heavier, where we talked about like the intricacies
and experiences of racism and trying to understand it. And
today I think I'd like to take a lighter approach.
I think it gives a good highlight of what this
(01:32):
friendship is. It's equal parts serious and equal parts silly,
but always educational, always educational. And I think it's important
for everybody to know these are gonna be based off
some YouTube videos the justice set that we both the
only the only acknowledgment we've had on these so far
is just laughing. I'm sorry, TikTok's not YouTube. That's that's
(01:52):
showing my age.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, yeah, you got you gotta give creams where it is.
I'm on a TikTok rant. I said that laugh one
fell on it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Uh yeah, you are, and you are living up to it,
and I mean arguably the queen of TikTok. But that's
a conversation for another day. Yeah, the algorithms are working
for you though. It's been really funny. But my point
is we haven't we haven't talked about any of our
opinions or answers on this on either end, and we're
saving it for here lives. So this this could get
(02:22):
a little squirrely, be interesting. You may hear our first
fight is what I'll say. So here we go.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, all right, so the videos are kind of this
has been something that has been on TikTok on and
off for a bit. When I first got on TikTok,
I would see stuff like this and this was actually
during like lockdown and things like that, So it made
it even weirder to see at that time some of
the stuff that was coming up. And one of the
(02:51):
the factor that always came back in it, it's just
saying like a whit of people don't like to watch stuff,
particularly their bodies, and it was in certain aspects and
it was just in awe of it because you know,
people would be like, you guys washed, you use a
washcloth or you wash your legs or whatever, and that
(03:13):
you could you could actually see the just astonishment in
the people's faces of like you guys do that like
black people do that. And then it would be response
videos to it from other people going like it's have
I been living wrong like this entire time? And it
reminded each time. I always reminded me kind of the
(03:33):
Bill Burr like skit when he was like, you know
where ash is? You ever been ashky? You know what
that is? And so that that that is the question.
Do you feel like or do you see there's a
difference in I guess hygiene, So this fake that's the
best way to put it. And again, this is not
(03:54):
all white people, not all black people, but it on
TikTok they make it seem like this is just not
a thing.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Man, that that's such a loaded question, like you're gonna
ask her there's a difference in hygiene like ones clean.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
The reason reason why I asked that. No, no, no, no,
the reason why I asked it. And I'm and this
may actually kind of be like a shared experiences thing too,
is there. And one of the videos that I did
see it was like I was just never taught to
do this this way. I was just never shown to
do this type of stuff this way, and I'm guessing it.
(04:31):
Like for one thing, the washcloth, is that really not
a thing?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Man? I tell you what I haven't. I haven't used
a washcloth probably legitimately since ninety four. Oh my yeah,
it's yeah, not a thing in my house. Well, I
should got to say in my house. It's not a
thing for me in my shower. Now, I will use
a washcloth on my kids, And I understand it's very
(04:54):
like contradictory, like, you know, why why would I watch
them different than me? But yeah, totally. Did they use
wash cloths all the time? I never do. And here's
what I'll ask is why, like why what is what
is that cloth bringing that my hands don't Well?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean, it's very similar to like you know, you
washing dishes or washing a car or whatever, and basically
it's exfoliating and actually getting off the dirt more than
what your hands will necessarily do. So like washing your hands,
I get, but actually like washing your body with the
like the funk and the other stuff that builds up
(05:35):
as you go throughout the day. Yeah, you got anymore
than a hand.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Listen, you've been around me. Do I stink?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's not about stink?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Am I dirty? Am I unclean?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I don't know? Now?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, like I don't know. So Okay, look at hand washing,
right for example, that those are the dirtiest parts of
your body are most of the time, right, they have
the most exposure to get dirty, pickup germs, all those things.
I'm not arguing the importance of hand washing, but if
like this exfoliation process that you're talking about is so important,
(06:12):
why isn't that a thing? Why don't we have a
like a communal sponge or something that we used to
wash our hands. And the reason is because it's gross, like.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
A communal sponge.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, okay, let me okay, let me break this down.
So coffee cups at work, right, I only ever put
coffee in there. I'm a black coffee drinker. There's no creamer,
nothing to mold. I don't wash that cup every day.
I'll take some hot water or rinse it out, but
I'm not. I'm not scrubbing it in the workplace. And
here's why your options at work are. Everywhere I've ever
(06:49):
worked has been a sponge, and I think that's disgusting.
I don't want people's leftover lunches and stuff making its
way into my coffee cup. There's no reason for it, right,
So I go back to the same thing with the hands, Like,
if we're not treating our hands rights or it's acceptable,
I should say to just use our hands to wash
our hands. Why is the shower any different.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Because that's a larger area of skin.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, okay, you're talking at surface area. But like I'm
never gonna like bring my elbow to my mouth. Who
cares if I exfoliate it?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
No, okay, now riddle me this though, does does race
play a factor in this because we've talked before off
air about like the importance of like moisturizing and stuff. Right,
so like I'm not getting out of every shower and
like lotioning up not something I ever do. So like
(07:51):
does the exfoliation play a part in that's like cauld
I imagine that's extra build up you would be adding
right with lotion.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
No, because it doesn't sit on top of your skin,
it's actually absorbed in. So No, So the dead skin,
like you pretty much you know, dust and everything and
just going throughout the word dead skin and all that
just builds up just periodically as you just live. Yeah,
(08:21):
as you're just going through you know, living life going
throughout the day, you're accumulating like dead skin, cells and
hairs and stuff from outside of your body and just
in the world. Basically when you take the shower and
you're just using your hand, you're just moving that around.
You're not necessarily getting the stuff off or exfoliating the
(08:46):
dead skin off either, is.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It every time?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Though?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You're gonna use a wash clot every time for that purpose, not.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
To get to get clean. Yes, And also yeah, and
also it was just like rubbing the soap on your
body would be akin to you just like rubbing soap
on your dishes or on your car and not using anything.
You're not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, Like I see your argument here, but like there's
other factors at play here, right, Like I take a
super hot shower, right, that's doing something that's breaking up
some of this grime.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
That's like would you take a bath? No, that's the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's not the same thing. There's basically is no.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
No, just because you feel like it's just running off
of you. It's just sitting on you, running off of
certain places that it started and landing in others.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, I agree, if I agree in the batht scenario.
But a shower you got pressure from the shower heads.
It's the pressure going from the shower heads moving.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, that's what I'm saying. So it's it's essentially like
a river. You started a certain place, the stuff was
at the top, and it just kind of gets to
another place and just sits there after that because you
haven't really done anything to knock it off. Yeah, you
used your hand, but it that's not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I disagree. I spelled great when I get out of
the shower.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's not about smelling great, and that that's the thing.
I think that's the difference in between thought of like
cleanliness and smelling better because that I mean, because you
have people that just generally have a body order, but
they could still be clean.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, okay, so then we got to bring this part
of it up too. Have you heard of this?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think it's called Yuka Yuka. It's an app.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
M hm oh yeah, yeah, I have. I have.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I'm sorry, so I there are a lot of people
that are obsessed with that. I'm not obsessed, but I
enjoy it. I love anything you can get, so even
from like drinks to soaps and that sort of thing.
Like the more it like feels like grass and dirt, like,
the more I'm into it, Like I like the more
natural stuff. And so I guess if you're taking like
(11:04):
I don't, I don't know what a bad example would
be because I wash so cleanly, but like you know
these bad products right that are horrible for you, and
you're grinding that into your skin? Is that better as
you exfoliate than using a different type? Right? Does that
make sense? I'm just saying, like we're attacking shower habits,
(11:25):
like there's more to be attacked than just the wash cloud.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Aspect, not necessarily because like the soap, it's still so
unless you're using something that's like straight up lie, what's
the difference.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
We're talking like bar soap or body wash or you
view those the same.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Like communal bar soap is disgusting because especially if you're
not using like a wash glove, I'm not thinking if
you just robbing that on your body, not a soap
is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, Like, let's take communal off the table, because if
I got a soap, that's my soap. I'm not using
anybody else's soap. Nobody's using myself. That's a common courtesy
the wall. Yeah you hope, Yeah, I really do. Now
I say that answer questions.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But I don't see it. You asked me that earlier
about is it a racing? I do think it is
a cultural thing because it really does seem like that.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, well, I guess I lost this one. Okay, change every.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
No, no, because so and like like they were saying before,
there were other kids or not kids, but there were
some kids and then it became adults and stuff. They
was just like should we be doing this? And some
of them did it? And reported back, and they were like,
my skin is so different now, Like a lot of
the stuff that there were issues that I were having
before is gone because I started doing this, or I
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feel different because of it. The one thing that they
did complain about is the morturizing. They being like that
takes forever. Just hey, you would draw, would you thick?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah? And like, honestly, I don't like that feeling of
like lotion in general. It makes me uneasy, Like that
makes me feel like I'm dirty because it feels like
there's something on me. I know you said that absorbs.
I believe you. I'm not doubting that, but like it
does feel so different.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Well, I mean, if you're not used to it, yeah,
I can see that. But you're probably also just like
lathering it on and not really rubbing it into your
skin or using too much.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah maybe maybe so. One of the other videos that
I want to ask you about that came up is
none that we're still in the shower. This idea of
washing your legs. There were I think both black and
white people in this video surveyed do you wash your legs?
The predominant answers were people of color. Yeah, they look
(13:53):
at you like, you're stupid for not washing your legs,
And almost all the white people and that video were like, no,
why would you wash it legs? So yeah, is this
a thing? Do you wash your legs every time you're
in the shower? Yes, like quads, the calves.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Like from I washed everything from my scalp to my
the bottoms of my feet, I washed every single time.
Man is gonna be because I mean, are you're gonna
stop at your feet, especially like you walking around the
house and stuff like that. Know, you got you got
to wash the stuff, and you gotta do it in
(14:32):
sections like you cannot start off but to defeat and
then every start everywhere else.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Now yeah, no, there, that's a really good point too.
There's an order to everything. Totally agree with that. And
I also I'll start hair and face above everything else always.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, I mean I can't wash my hair every single time,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, and I have to. Yeah, it's so interesting. Yeah,
like I guess I'll have to admit it now that
we're now that we're here, Yeah, I almost never wash
my legs. And I think it's because of this theory
of the shower pressure that I was talking about earlier,
Like I can see when my legs are dirty, and
if that's the case, like if I'm out like playing
(15:16):
in the mud or like working on a project or whatever, yeah,
I'll give him a good scrub and get it all clean.
But on a normal basis, Like no, I'm just gonna
let I want to let gravity do its thing. Yeah, no, no,
that's not it's a thing. It's a real thing. Now,
there was a guy and I won't say his name
on here in cases listening. I remember from high school.
(15:39):
He had the weirdest methodology that I've ever heard, and
he would do shampoo only that was it, so no
conditionery either. Dude had great hair too. I don't know
how he pulled it off, but he would just put
extra shampoo in his hair and let the whole thing
work down. Wouldn't scrub anything else that was gross. He
(16:00):
seems like the exception to the rule. But from what
I had to tell, just the shampoo.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, I know a lot of people like that, and
they're like, well, the soap is just running down your body,
and it's just like, yeah, that's not how that works.
That literally is the same thing of you like spraying
windecks on the glass on your mirror or whatever and
then just letting it run down.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, I can't argue that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Trying to shine your legs like your your window.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well, and I will never forget that. I asked a
guy that I went out what was about to go
out on the date with, like do you lotion your butt?
And he was like no. I was like, okay, all right,
well this is over. And I remember a friend of
(16:50):
mine going like why. I was like, because if you
don't care about his own ass, he ain't gonna care
about mine.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Man, I was gonna ask if it was a deal breaker.
Have you explained it all? Yeah? I get that.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean because in that instance, like he I
could just hear the flakes on his ass. Was it
was really nothing that we could do after that?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So those too much? I get it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
It just brought up how you can literally have a
very very close relationship and very very just click with
so many people and completely have different frames of reference
just on certain things like that and never know it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a real interesting point, Like but do
you want to be talking to everybody you need about
like their shower habits, like form opinions.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Well, after we came out of the damn pandemic. Yeah,
I want to know how you washing your hands. I
want to know what you're doing it and the way.
One of those videos that I sent you was some
young ladies on a podcast, and the thing that got
me with this was that she was like, I would
never use a washcloth. That is freaking disgusting. And the
lady was like, so, how do you watch your butt?
She was like, my hand, But when the thought of
(18:05):
the washcloth was brought up, she was like, I was
using a washcloth to wash my butt. I have to
burn that thing. But you're not gonna burn your hand off.
I was like yeah, I was like, okay, yeah. Reading
the comments on that one was very interesting. Yeah, that's us,
(18:29):
but it was it was lighthearted, and I do know
that is has been a thing for a while in
white households that a lot of them do not use
wahcloth does Like when I go to friends house just
in general, when I travel, I have like extra toiles
that's the wah cloths and stuff like that with them.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You bring them. Yeah, Like even if you're staying at
a hotel, oh, yes, so you're not even gonna use
a hotel washcloth or towel.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I don't know whose ass been on that.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Ooh, man, I gotta ask you justice, Like, are are
you a clean freak?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Is that? What's not a clean freak? It's just I
have actually been to some hotels where they have not
really cleaned the like I actually just recently was at
a a tournament conference thing and went into one room
and they were still piss on the toilet and what
I mean like pissed. It was like jail. You know
(19:27):
that jail congealed like it had been there that long. Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, I'm not using, not using your towels, definitely not.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Do you reuse towels like at your house?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, you re use them. Yeah, but I have a
ship ton of towels too, Yeah I have. And this
is probably something just from like growing up in a
black household. You got towels for guests, you got towers
for you, and then I have my travel towels.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Because you don't want the two to intermingle or is
it like a quality of towel thing.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Little bit of both. Okay, so the treble towels is
just so you don't have a bunch of extra weight. Yeah,
you gotta be able to track. Like my towels. It
was just for guest comfort. I mean, just like I
just said, at a hotel, you know whose ass has
been on this towel, the guest holes. I know that
these are just for guests, just the way it goes.
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And once the guest howels have been used a certain
number of times, that will then become like, oh, clean
up towels or stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah. Yeah, I have strong opinions on towels. I've had
good toiles, I've had bad towels, and then growing up,
we always had bad towels, so I didn't really know
the difference. And then somebody got us like bath sheets
one time. I don't know if it was for a
gift or something like you know, the super long ones,
and now I can't do anything else. Like when I'm home,
(20:55):
I'll still use a hotel towel. Don't judge me, but.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Enough that it's just like I think if I hadn't
been in certain situations like that, I'd be the same way.
But having had those situations and experiences, it just like, nah, y'all, y'all,
clearly it ain't that good when it comes to this,
and shit, and I know some people probably ask me, well,
what about the sheets? I do have to throw away
(21:21):
sheets for that, Yeah, for traveling. Yeah, when me and
Jules went to Comic Con, I showed him that and
he was like, you actually do was like yes, because
we stayed to the airbnb in that one, So it
was definitely like, I don't I don't know what's going
on in here.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. I would I would think an
airbnb would probably be a cleaner than like a hotel,
but you get a lot of variety there. You don't
know who, who the owners are, who the cleaners are,
So I get that.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, yeah, just stuff I picked up. It's not and
some people may be like, well that's a lot to do. Eh, hey,
yeah people are nasty clearly.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, there's none washcloth using people.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Well no, I mean and then I remember in Vegas
they had like a bed bug epidemic. I don't know
if you ever saw that on the news. So shit
like that. It is of being like, Okay, you kind
of gotta be on guard when it comes to this
shit when you travel. Yeah, So that's just kind of
where my stuff came from. With that. But the tow
(22:30):
thing I was just I found that hilarious. I will
never forget he probably would never listen to the show.
But it was one dude I was dating and I
was about to get into the shower and he was
standing there just for a second, and I got in
the shower and didn't realize I didn't have talent. I
was probably in there for like two minutes and then
(22:51):
I hopped out, and he was like, I was wondering
when you asked, was getting a white cloth?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
That's funny, and he was.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And he was a person of color, but he was
not black. So I do think it is just a
culture thing when it comes to that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
All right, well you we've kind of danced around this
a little bit too. But the last video that we
kind of watched to come up with this was about
washing your hands at home after you go to the bathroom.
The woman on the video was hysterical. The response was
even better. She wasn't even trying to be funny. I
think she was being so genuine, No, I don't wash
(23:35):
my hands in my home, Like it was like it
was disgusting to her. It was all for show, and
all I gotta ask, do you do you wash your
hands at home, even when.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It was religiously RELI religiously And after I washed my hands,
I put on.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Oh man every time. Yeah, I guess you probably have
to write like you because.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You're doing it so much. Yeah. Yeah, your hands are
good dry.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I have lotion right by the by the sink in
all of the bathrooms for that reason.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Interesting, so I wash every time. I don't. I don't
lotion anything.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yes, well you don't like the lotions that I get it?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, and lotions on the hands. That's the worst. That's
a case of too much. Like if I ever do that,
it's like I look like I'm probably lathering up everything.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, you're probably doing too much. Yeah yeah. But what
that means for her is that she in one of
the instances, she was like, I will just run water
to make people think that I'm washing my hands. It
was like that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, Like is that point you know you're doing something wrong?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, yeah, I will say like not always have I
been like this, But I think since being like an
official adult, you know, like when you hit thirty, I've
been pretty good about it.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I think everybody has that before they got to a
certain place in their life. Or where they're at now,
their habits in life and love and everything was just
a little bit different. I wasn't always like this when
it comes, especially like with the travel stuff, because again
I hadn't run into places where they left pithed on
(25:25):
the toilet, so I get that. But the whole Washington
this is why you have there other stuff that you'll
see why a lot of black people don't like to
eat at pot looks. And that's kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
The reason why. Interesting, but you do.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The company pot looks. If they do not eat, it's
two or three things that happen if they do not eat. First,
if they did not bring the food, If they do
not know the person who brought the food. Yeah, no,
you just if you have one recently, just look around
see who's actually perusing the food. If it's like, oh,
(26:03):
I brought this from my house, Nope, not eatn that.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know. It's funny about potlucks. I've never been to
a potluck where I love. It's always like, I don't know,
the food always feels mediocre. Now I'm wondering if it's
just gross.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Right, because they didn't wash the hands and had n't
used the watchcloth while he was doing it or put
a watchcloth in it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And their legs are so dirty.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Now again, I do not want this to be like, oh,
well they're saying that all white people do. This is
not not what we're saying. The whole point was to
ask a question of is this the cultural thing? Are
we missing something here? But I think we kind of
got to the point of it just like, yeah, it is.
It may be just a cultural thing of what you're
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exposed to or the experiences that you've had. Because I
do know a few white people, but they've kind of
grown up around a lot of black people that do
that that you know, they do use the washplat, they
do do the lotion and things like that. Yeah, they're
in the minority in amongst their friends, and when they
tell other white people that, they kind of are like
(27:10):
why type thing. You know.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But it's funny because this is a really good example
of like a small thing, right like in the thing
is it's a small thing. But to be able to
have the conversation first of all, and like just take
it and see if you you might like it. It might
be a game changer for you. It might be something different, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I could sound like a crazy person. You never know.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, I mean you're washing your hands every time they're
the bass, and that's all great. I'm just kidding, man,
But yeah, yeah, I think it's you know, whenever we
talk about this stuff, it doesn't have to be all
like these really deep and like thoughtful conversations with tons
of history like that's all certainly part of it. But yeah,
like learn some culture, right. I think I threatended last
(27:55):
episode or the one before about you know, doing an
episode on like black hair. Right, It's a world that
I would venture to guess most white people know nothing about.
I've been trying to learn for several years and I don't.
I don't know the nearly any of the ins and
outs of it. But there's value in learning and just seeing,
like what are the people doing?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I mean just from your excursion into the black barbershops,
so that so opens you up to a whole different
aspect and point of view.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, and I'll report now that's still going to the
same barber. Shout out Tory Taylor's touch, got a great relationship.
Things are, things are. I've never had better haircuts in
my life.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Now tell me you're not going to ask it for
the Travis Kalsey Noah, please.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Listen, you know I did when those videos started surfacing
so funny. So I walked in and he had another
barber in there this time because normally do it like
weird times, like during the week, but a little bit
busier in another guy and they're cutting hair and I say, hey,
I think I want to trace try something a little
bit different today. And because I'm getting all excited because like,
dude's an artist, right and he just he wants to
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he wants to be creative and get it all out.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
O what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
What are you doing? I was like, man, I need
to get that trap. He's like the what I was like,
I need that Travis Kelsey and the other barberly from
on the other side of the barbershop just starts laugh
at his rolling and my guy was like, huh, I
knew it would be you. I knew you'd be the
one and asked this question, request this haircut.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
But you know what, we never said whether or not
he liked the episode. I guess you could talk about
that next week.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, you know what. I just sent it to him
actually this week and I should see him next week.
So I'll have some concept.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
For you, Okay, all right, but yeah, I'd love to
do a black hair episode. That's always been an interesting
topic for me. M. Yeah, we'll definitely have to delve
into that on another day, yep.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
For sure. Well, thank you all for listening. This feels
like a good spot to end it. I appreciate the
questions as always, even though I feel like I need
to go buy a bunch of shower accessories and keep
it going.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Oh god, we out, we out.
Do not ask you something? Sence it bye, say what? Video?
Here we go. I don't know about you, but I
never saw our conversations as uncomfortable. I had the understanding of, well,
if he's asking, he's wanting the truth, whether it's uncomfortable
(00:24):
or actually, don't hit him upside the head. It is
what it is. He ad for it.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I think the uncomfortableness comes from kind of the whole
idea behind this podcast is like, I don't know if
it's okay if I ask this and that is my question, okay,
but is me asking the question going to be perceived
as okay?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Say? Well, all right, all right, all right, welcome to
Can I ask you something? I am one of your hosts,
al and I'm joined by the Queen of say What
radio jump just please.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I am curtseying as we.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Speak everything you've said all day.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, yeah, I got to put your kurtsy in.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well, welcome, Welcome to the show. Last episode was a
little bit heavier, where we talked about like the intricacies
and experiences of racism and trying to understand it. And
today I think I'd like to take a lighter approach.
I think it gives a good highlight of what this
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friendship is. It's equal parts serious and equal parts silly,
but always educational, always educational. And I think it's important
for everybody to know these are gonna be based off
some YouTube videos the justice set that we both the
only the only acknowledgment we've had on these so far
is just laughing. I'm sorry, TikTok's not YouTube. That's that's
(01:52):
showing my age.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, yeah, you got you gotta give creams where it is.
I'm on a TikTok rant. I said that laugh one
fell on it.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Uh yeah, you are, and you are living up to it,
and I mean arguably the queen of TikTok. But that's
a conversation for another day. Yeah, the algorithms are working
for you though. It's been really funny. But my point
is we haven't we haven't talked about any of our
opinions or answers on this on either end, and we're
saving it for here lives. So this this could get
(02:22):
a little squirrely, be interesting. You may hear our first
fight is what I'll say. So here we go.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Okay, all right, so the videos are kind of this
has been something that has been on TikTok on and
off for a bit. When I first got on TikTok,
I would see stuff like this and this was actually
during like lockdown and things like that, So it made
it even weirder to see at that time some of
the stuff that was coming up. And one of the
(02:51):
the factor that always came back in it, it's just
saying like a whit of people don't like to watch stuff,
particularly their bodies, and it was in certain aspects and
it was just in awe of it because you know,
people would be like, you guys washed, you use a
washcloth or you wash your legs or whatever, and that
(03:13):
you could you could actually see the just astonishment in
the people's faces of like you guys do that like
black people do that. And then it would be response
videos to it from other people going like it's have
I been living wrong like this entire time? And it
reminded each time. I always reminded me kind of the
(03:33):
Bill Burr like skit when he was like, you know
where ash is? You ever been ashky? You know what
that is? And so that that that is the question.
Do you feel like or do you see there's a
difference in I guess hygiene, So this fake that's the
best way to put it. And again, this is not
(03:54):
all white people, not all black people, but it on
TikTok they make it seem like this is just not
a thing.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Man, that that's such a loaded question, like you're gonna
ask her there's a difference in hygiene like ones clean.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
The reason reason why I asked that. No, no, no, no,
the reason why I asked it. And I'm and this
may actually kind of be like a shared experiences thing too,
is there. And one of the videos that I did
see it was like I was just never taught to
do this this way. I was just never shown to
do this type of stuff this way, and I'm guessing it.
(04:31):
Like for one thing, the washcloth, is that really not
a thing?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Man? I tell you what I haven't. I haven't used
a washcloth probably legitimately since ninety four. Oh my yeah,
it's yeah, not a thing in my house. Well, I
should got to say in my house. It's not a
thing for me in my shower. Now, I will use
a washcloth on my kids, And I understand it's very
(04:54):
like contradictory, like, you know, why why would I watch
them different than me? But yeah, totally. Did they use
wash cloths all the time? I never do. And here's
what I'll ask is why, like why what is what
is that cloth bringing that my hands don't Well?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I mean, it's very similar to like you know, you
washing dishes or washing a car or whatever, and basically
it's exfoliating and actually getting off the dirt more than
what your hands will necessarily do. So like washing your hands,
I get, but actually like washing your body with the
like the funk and the other stuff that builds up
(05:35):
as you go throughout the day. Yeah, you got anymore
than a hand.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Listen, you've been around me. Do I stink?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It's not about stink?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Am I dirty? Am I unclean?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I don't know? Now?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, like I don't know. So Okay, look at hand washing,
right for example, that those are the dirtiest parts of
your body are most of the time, right, they have
the most exposure to get dirty, pickup germs, all those things.
I'm not arguing the importance of hand washing, but if
like this exfoliation process that you're talking about is so important,
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why isn't that a thing? Why don't we have a
like a communal sponge or something that we used to
wash our hands. And the reason is because it's gross, like.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
A communal sponge.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, okay, let me okay, let me break this down.
So coffee cups at work, right, I only ever put
coffee in there. I'm a black coffee drinker. There's no creamer,
nothing to mold. I don't wash that cup every day.
I'll take some hot water or rinse it out, but
I'm not. I'm not scrubbing it in the workplace. And
here's why your options at work are. Everywhere I've ever
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worked has been a sponge, and I think that's disgusting.
I don't want people's leftover lunches and stuff making its
way into my coffee cup. There's no reason for it, right,
So I go back to the same thing with the hands, Like,
if we're not treating our hands rights or it's acceptable,
I should say to just use our hands to wash
our hands. Why is the shower any different.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Because that's a larger area of skin.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, okay, you're talking at surface area. But like I'm
never gonna like bring my elbow to my mouth. Who
cares if I exfoliate it?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
No, okay, now riddle me this though, does does race
play a factor in this because we've talked before off
air about like the importance of like moisturizing and stuff. Right,
so like I'm not getting out of every shower and
like lotioning up not something I ever do. So like
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does the exfoliation play a part in that's like cauld
I imagine that's extra build up you would be adding
right with lotion.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
No, because it doesn't sit on top of your skin,
it's actually absorbed in. So No, So the dead skin,
like you pretty much you know, dust and everything and
just going throughout the word dead skin and all that
just builds up just periodically as you just live. Yeah,
(08:21):
as you're just going through you know, living life going
throughout the day, you're accumulating like dead skin, cells and
hairs and stuff from outside of your body and just
in the world. Basically when you take the shower and
you're just using your hand, you're just moving that around.
You're not necessarily getting the stuff off or exfoliating the
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dead skin off either, is.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
It every time?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Though?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
You're gonna use a wash clot every time for that purpose, not.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
To get to get clean. Yes, And also yeah, and
also it was just like rubbing the soap on your
body would be akin to you just like rubbing soap
on your dishes or on your car and not using anything.
You're not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, Like I see your argument here, but like there's
other factors at play here, right, Like I take a
super hot shower, right, that's doing something that's breaking up
some of this grime.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
That's like would you take a bath? No, that's the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's not the same thing. There's basically is no.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
No, just because you feel like it's just running off
of you. It's just sitting on you, running off of
certain places that it started and landing in others.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, I agree, if I agree in the batht scenario.
But a shower you got pressure from the shower heads.
It's the pressure going from the shower heads moving.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, that's what I'm saying. So it's it's essentially like
a river. You started a certain place, the stuff was
at the top, and it just kind of gets to
another place and just sits there after that because you
haven't really done anything to knock it off. Yeah, you
used your hand, but it that's not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I disagree. I spelled great when I get out of
the shower.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It's not about smelling great, and that that's the thing.
I think that's the difference in between thought of like
cleanliness and smelling better because that I mean, because you
have people that just generally have a body order, but
they could still be clean.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, okay, so then we got to bring this part
of it up too. Have you heard of this?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think it's called Yuka Yuka. It's an app.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
M hm oh yeah, yeah, I have. I have.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I'm sorry, so I there are a lot of people
that are obsessed with that. I'm not obsessed, but I
enjoy it. I love anything you can get, so even
from like drinks to soaps and that sort of thing.
Like the more it like feels like grass and dirt, like,
the more I'm into it, Like I like the more
natural stuff. And so I guess if you're taking like
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I don't, I don't know what a bad example would
be because I wash so cleanly, but like you know
these bad products right that are horrible for you, and
you're grinding that into your skin? Is that better as
you exfoliate than using a different type? Right? Does that
make sense? I'm just saying, like we're attacking shower habits,
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like there's more to be attacked than just the wash cloud.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Aspect, not necessarily because like the soap, it's still so
unless you're using something that's like straight up lie, what's
the difference.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
We're talking like bar soap or body wash or you
view those the same.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Like communal bar soap is disgusting because especially if you're
not using like a wash glove, I'm not thinking if
you just robbing that on your body, not a soap
is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, Like, let's take communal off the table, because if
I got a soap, that's my soap. I'm not using
anybody else's soap. Nobody's using myself. That's a common courtesy
the wall. Yeah you hope, Yeah, I really do. Now
I say that answer questions.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But I don't see it. You asked me that earlier
about is it a racing? I do think it is
a cultural thing because it really does seem like that.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, well, I guess I lost this one. Okay, change every.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
No, no, because so and like like they were saying before,
there were other kids or not kids, but there were
some kids and then it became adults and stuff. They
was just like should we be doing this? And some
of them did it? And reported back, and they were like,
my skin is so different now, Like a lot of
the stuff that there were issues that I were having
before is gone because I started doing this, or I
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feel different because of it. The one thing that they
did complain about is the morturizing. They being like that
takes forever. Just hey, you would draw, would you thick?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah? And like, honestly, I don't like that feeling of
like lotion in general. It makes me uneasy, Like that
makes me feel like I'm dirty because it feels like
there's something on me. I know you said that absorbs.
I believe you. I'm not doubting that, but like it
does feel so different.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Well, I mean, if you're not used to it, yeah,
I can see that. But you're probably also just like
lathering it on and not really rubbing it into your
skin or using too much.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah maybe maybe so. One of the other videos that
I want to ask you about that came up is
none that we're still in the shower. This idea of
washing your legs. There were I think both black and
white people in this video surveyed do you wash your legs?
The predominant answers were people of color. Yeah, they look
(13:53):
at you like, you're stupid for not washing your legs,
And almost all the white people and that video were like, no,
why would you wash it legs? So yeah, is this
a thing? Do you wash your legs every time you're
in the shower? Yes, like quads, the calves.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Like from I washed everything from my scalp to my
the bottoms of my feet, I washed every single time.
Man is gonna be because I mean, are you're gonna
stop at your feet, especially like you walking around the
house and stuff like that. Know, you got you got
to wash the stuff, and you gotta do it in
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sections like you cannot start off but to defeat and
then every start everywhere else.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Now yeah, no, there, that's a really good point too.
There's an order to everything. Totally agree with that. And
I also I'll start hair and face above everything else always.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, I mean I can't wash my hair every single time,
but yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, and I have to. Yeah, it's so interesting. Yeah,
like I guess I'll have to admit it now that
we're now that we're here, Yeah, I almost never wash
my legs. And I think it's because of this theory
of the shower pressure that I was talking about earlier,
Like I can see when my legs are dirty, and
if that's the case, like if I'm out like playing
(15:16):
in the mud or like working on a project or whatever, yeah,
I'll give him a good scrub and get it all clean.
But on a normal basis, Like no, I'm just gonna
let I want to let gravity do its thing. Yeah, no, no,
that's not it's a thing. It's a real thing. Now,
there was a guy and I won't say his name
on here in cases listening. I remember from high school.
(15:39):
He had the weirdest methodology that I've ever heard, and
he would do shampoo only that was it, so no
conditionery either. Dude had great hair too. I don't know
how he pulled it off, but he would just put
extra shampoo in his hair and let the whole thing
work down. Wouldn't scrub anything else that was gross. He
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seems like the exception to the rule. But from what
I had to tell, just the shampoo.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, I know a lot of people like that, and
they're like, well, the soap is just running down your body,
and it's just like, yeah, that's not how that works.
That literally is the same thing of you like spraying
windecks on the glass on your mirror or whatever and
then just letting it run down.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, I can't argue that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah, you're not.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Trying to shine your legs like your your window.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Well, and I will never forget that. I asked a
guy that I went out what was about to go
out on the date with, like do you lotion your butt?
And he was like no. I was like, okay, all right,
well this is over. And I remember a friend of
(16:50):
mine going like why. I was like, because if you
don't care about his own ass, he ain't gonna care
about mine.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Man, I was gonna ask if it was a deal breaker.
Have you explained it all? Yeah? I get that.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, I mean because in that instance, like he I
could just hear the flakes on his ass. Was it
was really nothing that we could do after that?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
So those too much? I get it.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
It just brought up how you can literally have a
very very close relationship and very very just click with
so many people and completely have different frames of reference
just on certain things like that and never know it.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a real interesting point, Like but do
you want to be talking to everybody you need about
like their shower habits, like form opinions.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Well, after we came out of the damn pandemic. Yeah,
I want to know how you washing your hands. I
want to know what you're doing it and the way.
One of those videos that I sent you was some
young ladies on a podcast, and the thing that got
me with this was that she was like, I would
never use a washcloth. That is freaking disgusting. And the
lady was like, so, how do you watch your butt?
She was like, my hand, But when the thought of
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the washcloth was brought up, she was like, I was
using a washcloth to wash my butt. I have to
burn that thing. But you're not gonna burn your hand off.
I was like yeah, I was like, okay, yeah. Reading
the comments on that one was very interesting. Yeah, that's us,
(18:29):
but it was it was lighthearted, and I do know
that is has been a thing for a while in
white households that a lot of them do not use
wahcloth does Like when I go to friends house just
in general, when I travel, I have like extra toiles
that's the wah cloths and stuff like that with them.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You bring them. Yeah, Like even if you're staying at
a hotel, oh, yes, so you're not even gonna use
a hotel washcloth or towel.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I don't know whose ass been on that.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Ooh, man, I gotta ask you justice, Like, are are
you a clean freak?
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Is that? What's not a clean freak? It's just I
have actually been to some hotels where they have not
really cleaned the like I actually just recently was at
a a tournament conference thing and went into one room
and they were still piss on the toilet and what
I mean like pissed. It was like jail. You know
(19:27):
that jail congealed like it had been there that long. Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, I'm not using, not using your towels, definitely not.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Do you reuse towels like at your house?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, you re use them. Yeah, but I have a
ship ton of towels too, Yeah I have. And this
is probably something just from like growing up in a
black household. You got towels for guests, you got towers
for you, and then I have my travel towels.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Because you don't want the two to intermingle or is
it like a quality of towel thing.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Little bit of both. Okay, so the treble towels is
just so you don't have a bunch of extra weight. Yeah,
you gotta be able to track. Like my towels. It
was just for guest comfort. I mean, just like I
just said, at a hotel, you know whose ass has
been on this towel, the guest holes. I know that
these are just for guests, just the way it goes.
(20:23):
And once the guest howels have been used a certain
number of times, that will then become like, oh, clean
up towels or stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah. Yeah, I have strong opinions on towels. I've had
good toiles, I've had bad towels, and then growing up,
we always had bad towels, so I didn't really know
the difference. And then somebody got us like bath sheets
one time. I don't know if it was for a
gift or something like you know, the super long ones,
and now I can't do anything else. Like when I'm home,
(20:55):
I'll still use a hotel towel. Don't judge me, but.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Enough that it's just like I think if I hadn't
been in certain situations like that, I'd be the same way.
But having had those situations and experiences, it just like, nah, y'all, y'all,
clearly it ain't that good when it comes to this,
and shit, and I know some people probably ask me, well,
what about the sheets? I do have to throw away
(21:21):
sheets for that, Yeah, for traveling. Yeah, when me and
Jules went to Comic Con, I showed him that and
he was like, you actually do was like yes, because
we stayed to the airbnb in that one, So it
was definitely like, I don't I don't know what's going
on in here.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting. I would I would think an
airbnb would probably be a cleaner than like a hotel,
but you get a lot of variety there. You don't
know who, who the owners are, who the cleaners are,
So I get that.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, yeah, just stuff I picked up. It's not and
some people may be like, well that's a lot to do. Eh, hey,
yeah people are nasty clearly.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, there's none washcloth using people.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Well no, I mean and then I remember in Vegas
they had like a bed bug epidemic. I don't know
if you ever saw that on the news. So shit
like that. It is of being like, Okay, you kind
of gotta be on guard when it comes to this
shit when you travel. Yeah, So that's just kind of
where my stuff came from. With that. But the tow
(22:30):
thing I was just I found that hilarious. I will
never forget he probably would never listen to the show.
But it was one dude I was dating and I
was about to get into the shower and he was
standing there just for a second, and I got in
the shower and didn't realize I didn't have talent. I
was probably in there for like two minutes and then
(22:51):
I hopped out, and he was like, I was wondering
when you asked, was getting a white cloth?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
That's funny, and he was.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And he was a person of color, but he was
not black. So I do think it is just a
culture thing when it comes to that.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
All right, well you we've kind of danced around this
a little bit too. But the last video that we
kind of watched to come up with this was about
washing your hands at home after you go to the bathroom.
The woman on the video was hysterical. The response was
even better. She wasn't even trying to be funny. I
think she was being so genuine, No, I don't wash
(23:35):
my hands in my home, Like it was like it
was disgusting to her. It was all for show, and
all I gotta ask, do you do you wash your
hands at home, even when.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It was religiously RELI religiously And after I washed my hands,
I put on.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Oh man every time. Yeah, I guess you probably have
to write like you because.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
You're doing it so much. Yeah. Yeah, your hands are
good dry.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I have lotion right by the by the sink in
all of the bathrooms for that reason.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Interesting, so I wash every time. I don't. I don't
lotion anything.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yes, well you don't like the lotions that I get it?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, and lotions on the hands. That's the worst. That's
a case of too much. Like if I ever do that,
it's like I look like I'm probably lathering up everything.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, you're probably doing too much. Yeah yeah. But what
that means for her is that she in one of
the instances, she was like, I will just run water
to make people think that I'm washing my hands. It
was like that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, Like is that point you know you're doing something wrong?
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, yeah, I will say like not always have I
been like this, But I think since being like an
official adult, you know, like when you hit thirty, I've
been pretty good about it.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I think everybody has that before they got to a
certain place in their life. Or where they're at now,
their habits in life and love and everything was just
a little bit different. I wasn't always like this when
it comes, especially like with the travel stuff, because again
I hadn't run into places where they left pithed on
(25:25):
the toilet, so I get that. But the whole Washington
this is why you have there other stuff that you'll
see why a lot of black people don't like to
eat at pot looks. And that's kind of.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
The reason why. Interesting, but you do.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The company pot looks. If they do not eat, it's
two or three things that happen if they do not eat. First,
if they did not bring the food, If they do
not know the person who brought the food. Yeah, no,
you just if you have one recently, just look around
see who's actually perusing the food. If it's like, oh,
(26:03):
I brought this from my house, Nope, not eatn that.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know. It's funny about potlucks. I've never been to
a potluck where I love. It's always like, I don't know,
the food always feels mediocre. Now I'm wondering if it's
just gross.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Right, because they didn't wash the hands and had n't
used the watchcloth while he was doing it or put
a watchcloth in it. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
And their legs are so dirty.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Now again, I do not want this to be like, oh,
well they're saying that all white people do. This is
not not what we're saying. The whole point was to
ask a question of is this the cultural thing? Are
we missing something here? But I think we kind of
got to the point of it just like, yeah, it is.
It may be just a cultural thing of what you're
(26:48):
exposed to or the experiences that you've had. Because I
do know a few white people, but they've kind of
grown up around a lot of black people that do
that that you know, they do use the washplat, they
do do the lotion and things like that. Yeah, they're
in the minority in amongst their friends, and when they
tell other white people that, they kind of are like
(27:10):
why type thing. You know.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
But it's funny because this is a really good example
of like a small thing, right like in the thing
is it's a small thing. But to be able to
have the conversation first of all, and like just take
it and see if you you might like it. It might
be a game changer for you. It might be something different, Like.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I could sound like a crazy person. You never know.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, I mean you're washing your hands every time they're
the bass, and that's all great. I'm just kidding, man,
But yeah, yeah, I think it's you know, whenever we
talk about this stuff, it doesn't have to be all
like these really deep and like thoughtful conversations with tons
of history like that's all certainly part of it. But yeah,
like learn some culture, right. I think I threatended last
(27:55):
episode or the one before about you know, doing an
episode on like black hair. Right, It's a world that
I would venture to guess most white people know nothing about.
I've been trying to learn for several years and I don't.
I don't know the nearly any of the ins and
outs of it. But there's value in learning and just seeing,
like what are the people doing?
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I mean just from your excursion into the black barbershops,
so that so opens you up to a whole different
aspect and point of view.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, and I'll report now that's still going to the
same barber. Shout out Tory Taylor's touch, got a great relationship.
Things are, things are. I've never had better haircuts in
my life.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Now tell me you're not going to ask it for
the Travis Kalsey Noah, please.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Listen, you know I did when those videos started surfacing
so funny. So I walked in and he had another
barber in there this time because normally do it like
weird times, like during the week, but a little bit
busier in another guy and they're cutting hair and I say, hey,
I think I want to trace try something a little
bit different today. And because I'm getting all excited because like,
dude's an artist, right and he just he wants to
(29:08):
he wants to be creative and get it all out.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
O what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
What are you doing? I was like, man, I need
to get that trap. He's like the what I was like,
I need that Travis Kelsey and the other barberly from
on the other side of the barbershop just starts laugh
at his rolling and my guy was like, huh, I
knew it would be you. I knew you'd be the
one and asked this question, request this haircut.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
But you know what, we never said whether or not
he liked the episode. I guess you could talk about
that next week.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, you know what. I just sent it to him
actually this week and I should see him next week.
So I'll have some concept.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
For you, Okay, all right, but yeah, I'd love to
do a black hair episode. That's always been an interesting
topic for me. M. Yeah, we'll definitely have to delve
into that on another day, yep.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
For sure. Well, thank you all for listening. This feels
like a good spot to end it. I appreciate the
questions as always, even though I feel like I need
to go buy a bunch of shower accessories and keep
it going.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Oh god, we out, we out.
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