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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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for listening to Revolution Radio Canada. Enjoy this podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's gonna get silly Revolution Radio Canada.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm glad Dmitri's not here.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Why would you say that, Derek? That is such an
inappropriate thing, because.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Why, I'll tell you. I'll tell you why. Because for
the last what three major interviews that we've had, I've
been aol.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah that's true. Oh that's true.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You have been so today today we get to interview
Holly Cole and I'm here and m Trie isn't. Do
you have an issue with no I love him very.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Much, very well, said I.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Actually I have more of an issue with Craig.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah. We can't stand each other and
love each other at the same time. So once again
this Revolution Radio Canada. My name is Craig g alongside,
of course Derek Lewis a k A. Durky mcshirt cocking arm.
That's a good thing. He's wearing pants. Thank god. Our
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new friend Holly's got a sense of humor.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
So do this.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
We do this podcast that we call Canadian as Heck,
and we do this every Monday night, nine pm Eastern,
seven Mountain And we just talked to the best of
the best from Canada and we have a literal gem
and icon that this country has produced. And we're so,
so incredibly lucky to talk to our new bestie here
(02:06):
at Revolution Radio Canada, the one and only Holly Cole. Welcome, Welcome,
Hal Cole.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I'm honored to be here with you and Dirky mcshirt
cot Cook.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Hearing you say it makes it even the first time
anyone else has said it.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
This is the first time anyone in.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
There believe anyone can resist saying it right.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
And it's it's it's just the best. I love it.
I just I can't.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I can't like with you know, life in the world
and stuff. You just can't you got a giggle, You
don't have a giggle.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well we got we gotta laugh these days, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And I'll tell you my army cruises in the chat. H. So,
so my name is Derek. But years ago, years ago,
I was, I was.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
I was dating a.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Lovely lady who's still like a really great friend of mine,
and she has had a young a young guy. And uh,
he couldn't say Derek, so he said Jurky.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh that's where it comes from.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I have been jerky for like thirty years.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
And so you're saying that mixed shirt cockin is your
real last name?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, that is I will.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I will pull out my license right now and show you.
And it's spelled dusty spelled.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
That shirt shirt seems to be misspelled, and so is
cock but you know, oh.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Just my spelling.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Has there been an interview ever in your in your
in your long and lustrous career where you have said
that word mixed shirt cockin? No, just cock by itself.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
No, I screened that every night before I go to bed,
mixed again.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
No, So you never So you never said that word
with George Strumbelopolis or anything like that, like, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
All that means, Craig, that means we win.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm literally crying here.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
He tried to get me to say it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
But that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So this is better than Jeremy hats Man, Like, honestly, we.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Had Jeremy hats On last week and I think you
should be taking the stage.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
This is Oh my god, this is this is a
little show called Canadian as Heck.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yes, that's right. Yeah, here we are, Away we go.
So the podcast is officially started, and Derek told us where,
of course he gets his Dirky nickname from. So our
friend Holly Cole thirteenth studio album, the latest one, Dark Moon,
And just wondering if we're going to talk about some
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of the musicians that you've got on this record, just
absolutely stellar's sellar musicians that of course, some you've been
working with for you know, a huge chunk of your career.
And you know someone that just might happen to be
from a little band called Bela Fleck and the fleck Tones.
Oh my goodness, yeah, I'm a huge I saw them
with the bunch of aal jazz festival years ago, so
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they're just fabulous. Just wondering if you could actually talk
to us about the essentially the beginnings of this record,
the writings of this record, essentially where did this kind
of all start? And build from well this record.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I was lucky to have my dream team really on
this record, and so.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I was able to glean from any song I felt
confident of doing any song I wanted to, and I didn't.
I wanted this record to really embrace the spirit of spontaneity.
And I don't just mean improvising within solos and stuff.
I mean actually improvising the arrangements in the studio. So
we kind of we didn't rehearse a lot. We went
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to the studio and experimented, and I had I made
the record over the course of two years, so lucky,
I had the lucky enough, I had the luxury of time.
But what you end up having hearing on the record,
which is what I adore, is you hear the moment
where the light turns on for us, the moment where
we discover what the essence of the song is for us,
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which is something that you usually experience in rehearsal and
then you try to simulate it when you go in
the studio. Well, it's actually when it's occurring here, So
it's very very fresh and risky, risky.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
I'll say, oh absolutely, I mean there's a bazillion different studio.
You know, there's obviously all sorts of studio trickery and
what have you, but it's just looking at these musicians
that you've got alongside you for this record. I mean,
my goodness, was was was there a good chunk of
this record kind of cut off the floor like live
off the floor? Were you doing any of that sort
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of stuff?
Speaker 7 (06:46):
Well? We did.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
That whole thing was well, the whole basically except a
few things.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
A few solos were farmed out kind of, you know,
but all the bed, like all of the Core group
stuff was live the floor.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
That's the way I like to work the most. You know,
really you have to have a fantastic band.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, and I did, so. I was just watching.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Was totally off topic, but just talking about live off
the floor stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I was just watching.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
There's a little Instagram whatever about uh daft punk when
they were doing Get Lucky.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
They had I can't remember his name, Craig the guitar
players from Nyle Rogers Thank You, Yeah, yeah, from she
Oh that Lightweight Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Just you know, he's done a couple of things produced
David bolwiys Let's Dance.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
My favorite track by them though, is soul glow. But uh,
they were talking about how like because they pulled that
that was like a lot like in the studio and
they were doing the track and just the absolute look
of elation on their faces when they were just like
that's it and then they're just giggling for like two minutes. Right,
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it nailed it beautiful, And it's just it's that nail. Right.
And we were talking a couple of interviews back and
we were talking about, uh, like studio studio recordings of vocals. Now,
where do you do your vocals? Do you do your
vocal in the booth or do you do your vocal
on the floor in front of speakers?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
It depends.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
Sometimes it's on the floor, but h and other times
it's in the booth. It depends because if I don't
do the booth, then of course I can't change anything.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Right, if it's live off the floor.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
My whole first record, believe it or not, my whole
first record was live off the floor. But not only that,
it was it was piano, bass and voice to one microphone.
Oh so yeah, we all, yeah, we all, and the
only no headphones. Like it's like I would it be like,
here's the microphone. I'll just do mic technique like I
do on stage and hope that it's good and and
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so there was it was we would do a take
and it isn't like okay, we can even change the
level of the piano. Nothing, it's like you like it
or you don't exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Right if you don't do it again.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That's the classic way of putting that sort of ribbon microphone,
like just dangling in the middle of the room sort
of thing, you know, and everyone kind of sets up
in proximity as es actually how loud their instrument is. Right,
So that's that's just so cool.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
And you have to mix yourself like you know, there's
that's what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yeah, yeah, I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think
the oh goodness, Church of the Holy Trinity, hboy junk
Yeah exactly that for that that recording as Peter Moore
was the.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Guy who he did the Junkies first, but he was
the guy that came and did my first record.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
See, so we've got we really have a lot to
talk about. Yeah, absolutely amazing. So okay, so what we're
going to definitely touch on on, of course your latest
project as far as things go now. I was talking
to you before about I'm gonna play a song and
it's one of my all time favorites. And the reason
(10:05):
it's one of my all time favorites. Can you see
the shirt I'm wearing right now?
Speaker 6 (10:09):
I think it looks like two Beatles are There's John
Lennon Rubber Soul.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's Rubber Soul, so it's a cover of Rubber Soul.
You still to this day seeing one of my all
time favorite Beatles covers and it goes like this, Oh
I've just seen face.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I can't forget the time of play, setious method. I
want all the world seeing that.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
So if I made the other two favorite the other
two favorite covers that I have. One is by this
great UK dance duo from nineteen ninety They were called
Candy Flip and they did a great cover of Strawberry
Fields Forever. The other is another wonderful Canadian in Rufus
Wainwright covering Across the Universe.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So I just want to say, from Beatles fans everywhere,
thank you, thank you, thank you so much for covering
that song. It is absolutely gorgeous. Your voice on it
is liquid gold. It's Oh, thank you. It's honest every
time I hear so that's one of the songs that's
on REV Radio right. So it's just anyway, I just
(11:18):
wanted to say thanks for that incredible company. Would you
be able to kind of talk about about that if
you don't mind, Sorry, Derekh, So go ahead, Derek.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Turn Now it's my turn to gush.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
You were you were just drinking from a piss jar
a second. Thank you. I saw that, but I know,
I just.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Everybody asked me. They asked me, They're like, Derek, what
are you drinking? I'm like, piss man.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Like we literally we literally got our friend Holly Cole
to say pissed jar and cock and shirt cocking on
a podcast. This is brut We're gonna get sued. We're
getting I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I'm not sure who is gonna get sued. It's gonna
get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Record, your record company's gonna be like had management team
you're gonna have again.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
You're not allowed to play with them.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
You're doing what you're wonders for my mistaque.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
So in nineteen ninety three, you covered a track written
by Day Livingston and Ray Evans that was first brought
to air in an Alfred Hitchcock movie known as the
Man Who Knew Too Much in nineteen fifty six. Oh
you sang ka sah. Indeed that is my favorite, Holly Cools.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Oh that's You're not alone because we do that almost
every live show because the people, the audience loves it
so much.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Good.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's great. I really I love that song.
I'll never get tired of staying.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Doristay has been my my My father introduced me to
Doristay when I was a kid, the movies and albums
and everything, and that was so Craig. So, you know,
because I'm a nerd. The scene, the scene where uh
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the Doris Day track comes on in in The Man
who Knew Too Much is uh, it's a que to
their on screen kidnapped son. Okay, okay, are you telling
me that because that's just what it is.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, that's just because because.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Derek, because you know Derek, that's wonderful. That's a minute
and thirty seconds of hally Cole's life. She's never going
to get back. But anyway, I.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Thought that something. Okay, No, it's just.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I just I just like to know things you do
so good.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Would you be able to talk about that that Beatles cover?
How did how did you? How did you come to
that particular Beatles track I've Just Seen a Face?
Speaker 6 (14:03):
Well, that song appealed to me a lot, and it
was this was this was part of originally we did
this project in Japan.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
That was that was people doing. I did a few
of these albums. One was a Beatles album, and I
also did what else do I do? On that album,
I did a very.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Different version of I've Just Seen a Face? And I
did a version of I'm Only Sleeping? Do you know
that song by Georgie?
Speaker 8 (14:25):
Oh ye?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I love that song too, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
And yeah, I went an odd, odd beautiful song and
and then we did this other one for Sting and
then this other one for Prince and uh and it
was just like different jazz artists doing uh songs from
great writers and stuff and wow, and so I came, Yeah,
So I was doing I've Just Seen a Face and
I thought it was done acoustically on that record, and
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I thought.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
You know what, let's do it differently. And then Larry Klein.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Was the producer and he's a great a great producer
and a great bass player. And you probably do know
it from Joni Mitchell. He was married to her, and
he anyway, he's he's he's world things.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
But anyway, he came on this project and he suggested,
this is the first time I ever used a drum machine.
He suggested, uh, drum machines.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
So I'm like, oh, it's the Antichrist and stuff like that,
and uh, well, you know, I was I don't know
if you call it conservative, but maybe a purist or something,
you know.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And uh again, as you're coming from a jazz background, right, So.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
And it has been proven from this interview that I'm
not that conservative.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Clearly, that's just overall. I don't know who gave you
that title, but I don't think they did.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
I don't think anyone. I don't think anyone ever did, honestly.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
But but no, I so Larry suggested a drum this drump, this,
this loop, you know, and I was like, a drum.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Loop, Oh my god. And so he said no, just
think about just think about it. And I was like,
girl and everything and and uh and anyways, you know what,
I love it. I ended up learning to love it.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
And but but it was a that was a big
hump for me, and that was that song that I
for the first drum loop I ever used.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's amazing. Yeah, I replaced Craig with a drum machine.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
No, no, Craig had some stuff to do. It was
in your band and you replacing.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
That's terrible.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, I had to he had stuff to do, and
he was like, I can't committed guys.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
I was like, hate each other's gut.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
No, totally. That's you know, there's some that's.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I bailed because I bailed from his band. I bailed
from his band, and now I'm playing with a led
Zeppelin tribute band. So there you go.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I feel like I'm your therapist.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
You gotta have the glasses, got to go down a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
We're gonna. We're gonna, absolutely, and there's thank you.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
How do you feel about the fact that he did
he fired you and replaced you with the Holly.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I'm only going to do this interview if there's a
couch that both Derek and I could lie on together.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I'm big spoon, yeah, a little spoon.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Perfect, God, you did.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Not already have nick things. He's big spoon in your
little spoon.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Okay, that's right, And so I didn't last night, Jurkey, sure, can.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You tip be little spoon thing?
Speaker 5 (17:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh my goodness, you think we're so sorry, We're sorry,
We're anyway.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Okay, this is the most stun I've had all week.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Going back to nineteen ninety six Shades of Blue, you played,
you had a drummer play on that record. Who is
one of my old time favorite jazz cats, the great
Bill Stewart played on that record. Goodness, So this is
the thing, This is kind of what I want to
talk about really quickly as far as things go, moving into.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I loved playing with Bill, by the way, I absolutely
loved it, loved it.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
He's just such a cool cat, he really really is. Okay,
So we have got John Johnson on saxophone, of course, uh,
David Derenzo that you've played with for a good number
of years, George Kohler wicked, Aaron Davis on piano, massive
recording mates of yours. You've also got, of course, Howard
(18:09):
Levy from a Bell of Fleck and the fleck Tones,
And so doing this record, I'm wondering your thirteenth studio record.
How many of those records have you done with with
with George and Uh, Aaron, George and Aaron, Yeah, like
(18:31):
I think they've Like I keep seeing their names showing up,
like in all of your credits as far as things go.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
So many, but the first few records were David Pilch
was the bass player who was based there, and then George,
but George after that, George did did them all mostly
most most of them, uh and and one of the
persons I just want to point out who in the
personnel who's very important is Kevin Bright on guitars. Yes,
because he's He's a fantastic uh musician and a real
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creative spirit, unusual creative spirit.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
You know, he's one of a kind.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I worked on Queen Street for a good number of years.
I worked at a place Steve's Music on Queen Street.
Yeah sure, yeah, Queen and Spadinah and Kevin, like his
name would keep coming up over and over and over
with that whole Queen Street circuit. And I'm wondering like
some of the bands that he played in, Like for
some strange reason, I think that he did might have
(19:26):
done work with King Cobb Steely.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I don't know about that, but he could have.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
But he worked with Katie Lang and Cassandra Wilson and
oh that guy, the guy's funny quote from him?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
What's the guy's name? Who is House?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
The actor who plays Hugh Laurie, Hugh Laurie.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
He plays with Hugh Laurie. And Hugh Laurie said he's yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
He toured with him at Laurie said this about Kevin,
he never plays the same thing once, brilliant.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
I loved it too.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
That is so good. There's a true jazz musician for you,
my friends. Yeah, that's wonderful. Oh I love it. Okay,
So let's let's talk about this this project, dark Moon.
Would you say that for you? So I just want
to kind of go quickly through the song list here
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track one stepping Out with My Baby, two were Flamingos,
Fly three, Moon River and No Moon at All. Oh
I know, Moon River, Delicious Message to Michael, the Exciting Life,
Dark Moon coming back to Me, kiss me Quick, walk Away,
Renee and eleven Johnny guitar. Now I had your discography
(20:42):
page here Holly Cole discogs and it has on Please
refresh my memory. Who plays guitar for you on that
last track? It is Kevin. It's Kevin Bright that's it.
Ony guitar is you and Kevin Bright, so just the
(21:02):
just the two of you. Yeah, I think we might
have to spin this one. Yeah, I think we might
have to spin that if if you don't mind after
I love it because I just I just I love
just guitar and your voice on top of that yep,
and it's.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
It's really uh theatrical and uh moving lyric you.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
Know to that song.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
So as far as you're you act like you don't
care about that at all.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
No, No, I read I do.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I'm reading a thing. I'm reading the thing. No, I'm
reading the thing that he just that he's the discography stuff.
I'm just I'm sitting here going through names going yeah right.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I mean literally, if you if you type in Holly
Cole and discogs, it's a ridiculous, ridiculous amount of it's talent.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
There's a lot of people there, Yes, there are. Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I've never looked at that.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So for you, I'm what I'm wondering is so now
that you've got this record, Dark Moon, and we'll talk
about essentially what you're doing with this record. Hopefully there's
some live shows in twenty twenty five. Is it kind
of a trip for you to sort of take a
step back and and sort of turn around and look
(22:21):
in the rear view mirror and say, holy shit, like
this has been a career.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Yes, it is a trip. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Just it's funny, as you say, right this moment, because
it's just on this record that I find myself doing
that and I and and the thing that I that
struck me the most over overall is that I never
made a record I didn't want to. And I've which
which sounds like, oh, it would be surprised to some
people that people do that, but.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
It's very common.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Most people end up in there if they have a
long enough career, they end up doing a record they
don't want to, or a record or two they don't
want to. And and I have I've heard lee even
except for when in the early days when I saying
at weddings.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Which is a while ago, that's what you do.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah, Then I sang some songs I didn't love. But
but apart from that, I don't. I get to do
what I want, and I really that makes me feel happy.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
You know, there's something, there's something wonderful that comes with
the freedom to express oneself as oneself as opposed to
the product of me.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Well, that's it for sure, and the pressure and everything.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
And you know if you make it, if you made
a record you didn't want to, then you release it
and you don't like it and other people don't like
it either, and you're like, well I don't like it.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
That would be like I don't ever want to be
in that situation.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Alanis Morissett has never sang too Hot ever again. No, yeah,
she does not sing that lot, hasn't in.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Forever.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Well, we've all forgotten about that.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I loved that song.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I have played it on this show a few times. Really,
it's one of my favorites.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
Love it.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
I don't even know what it is. I'm assuming it's
I'm assuming it's before.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, it's been. Yeah, it was when when she was
when she was Alanis Morrisset, and it was she was
she was like teeny. It was like it's like when
the Debbie Gibson's and stuff were going on like that era.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I say that because I don't love it.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
No, no one does.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
No, I do, Oh you do.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I think it's I think it's wonderful. I think it's
just poppy. It's just it's a popcorn at a movie, right,
Like you're just like this is great. Uh, but yeah,
like there's there's like so many better things that she's done.
She was so young though, I think she was tiny.
She was wee at the time.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah. Well, I remember meeting her actually at Music World
in Markville Mall and Markham. Oh yeah, And it was
just after the Never Too Hot, Never too Cold, Take
your Best Shot, too Hot to It was just after
that period, and it was as she was releasing Jagged
Little Pill. And it was probably a Friday afternoon, if
I'm not mistaken, I think at that time I think
(25:13):
that's Hally. You could probably refresh my memory. I think
it was Fridays when new music came out, right, Yeah,
I guess so, yeah, I think or was it? I
think it was Friday.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It was Fridays, just before the like just before the weekend.
Then the kids would get out of school and be.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Like the records I have to buy, right, yeah, exactly.
And she was sitting that voice at a table, in
that voice for sure, durky. So it was her sitting
at a table and I guess. She was beside her
manager and they were playing her record in Music World
and I'm talking to myself, that's that's different. Wow, that's
(25:45):
that's really interesting. And she was sitting there by herself.
Nobody in the store, like, I mean no one. I
was the like you could have shot a cannon off
through the place and only hit records. There was nobody
in there.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And I just walked up to the table and I
just looked at her and I said, this, this is
your new record and she just said, yeah, you know,
I'm really excited it comes out today. And I was like, well, listen,
good luck with it, you know, all the best, and
she's like, thanks so much. I really appreciate that. And
I didn't even get an autograph. I just left and
that was it. Like I think I think I had
a Sound Garden record under my arm or something like that.
(26:19):
And I just walked out. And literally three months later.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It was everywhere and I'm like, I met that girl.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I should have gotten an autogra I did so for her.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yeah, seriously, talk for the people that liked the early stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
For me, I think I was my favorite. My favorite
Lanta song still to this day is actually, thank you.
It's not even from Jago little right, it's from supposed
infatuation junkie. I love that song.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I love the led Zeppelin one.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Oh you're on invite? Yeah yeah yeah, she lost me
a jagged little pill. I was like, so over, I
can't listen to you anymore.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Because you were still into the Debbie Gibson phase. I was.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I was still I'm still wearing the makeup that blue,
the blue eyeshadow had that was still.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Wearing it spades, You're still wearing it now.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I am wearing it now.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
No, that's just me tired.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
That's where that is.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
That's the blue I show you. You know, it goes
over your.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Eye, not permanent.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
This is what this is.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Thank you for that. Makeup tips from Holly Cole dune
in next week.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Right, yeah, exactly, Tune in next week when when Hally
Cole says holy shit or something that something else? Right exactly?
Uh listen, Okay, so you've been doing this for a
good minute. Where at there we go, we've been doing
this for a good minute. There's that disgusting jar of
Derek's and I gotta say, Holly, I'm recycling you look fantastic.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
Like you.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
You.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I don't think you age, so I have, honest to God,
you really don't like I don't know. I just I
don't think you age. I really don't.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
So that's good.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Congratulations, Good for you.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Honest clean living.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That good. Good for you.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
And no and non non expletives because they impact you
negatively and you don't do that.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Holly. That was amazing, just clean living that I do.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
And you're supposed to go.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
We're on video, you know that's right.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, just so you know this is live, Holly.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
Did I say that with my outside boys?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah? So yeah, no, honest to God, like just looking
at the picture. I just have Dark to your Heart
up on my computer and then you're on screen with us,
and I'm like, I don't think she's changed since ninety six.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Vampire Blood.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
That's what it is. That's what it is. That's what
the talking for. We're back.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
But yeah, I did.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
I did the little thing, little widow, Widow's Peak, Widow's Peak.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
It has come back. Oh listen your latest record. What
is the situation for you as far as playing live?
Are we going to see you play live this year?
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (29:13):
I don't know exactly what I'm playing in Toronto, but
we're starting in Japan in March, and then we're doing
some southern Ontario and the Montreal Jazz.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Festival, my favorite place to play really so good.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
It really is.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
And then and then the fallow we're uh, we're playing
in Europe, but I don't have confirmed dates yet, but
I'm I'm match.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
I think we're going to be playing in Toronto. We
have to.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Oh goodness, we really hope, so honestly, Okay, so let's
let's talk about that. So do you have any idea
what your setlist is going to be looking like? Is
it going to be mostly touring the new record or
do you think you'll be running back into a bunch
of the classics as well.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Well, that's the thing about having thirteen records OOTE is
that it's it's either liberating or daunting how much you
could mut material you have to choose from. Also, because
there's lots also in every territory, different people like different things,
So the set list in Japan, for instance, will be
different than it will be in Canada that it will
be in Europe and stuff, because every like in Europe
(30:14):
they love Temptation, the Tom Waits record, and so we
do a lot.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
We I go heavily off that.
Speaker 6 (30:20):
In Canada they love songs that we're kind of hits
like I can see clearly now and a few other songs.
And in uh and in Japan there they totally love
Calling You and that song was such a huge that
song was a runaway, wild, uh freakish hit for us
in Japan. Really yeah, we yeah, well you know, I'll
(30:41):
tell you what happened. It's a very grassroots kind of
excellent story.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
We we.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
It was my first record for the world, so my
second record out and and you know, when you and
I signed with a big label and stuff, so what
you know, they shop to each territory and the and
the territory says yes, we want, no we don't, and
whenever they say no, they always say no, it's no.
We love it, but it's not right for us, it's
not right for okay, and so Japan. So Japan said that,
(31:11):
and then and then what happened was, uh, they took
a pass. And then what happened was we saw all
these these these units going out of the US. Thousands
and thousands of records were being sold as imports, and
it was they analyzed it and they were all going
to Japan, and so I had a gold record or
a hit record.
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I mean in Japan, and I didn't have a record.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Up that I have that.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Cold Built Star following in Japan, even though her record
was not released there.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Yeah, it's that's exactly it.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
And I was going to ask you about because I
was like, this is how much power.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
You guys have.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
This is the reason why there was there was a
It was during a time and I don't know if
it's the same way now, but ben DJ's were allowed
to this guy was allowed to play what he wanted.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Oh my god. And so so he he heard it
at a.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Listening booth, like he just what this guy who was
really influential uh DJ in Japan hit a national show.
He heard it in a listening booth, He bought it,
he took it to his show and played Calling You,
and then he got inundated with calls and stuff for it,
and so he just got played and played and played,
and then suddenly thousands of records had sold, all on import,
and then of course the Japanese record company has to
(32:24):
kind of embarrassedly go, did we say it wasn't for us?
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You know, we just wanted to tempt you a little bit.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Well, it was the biggest selling record on Toshiba e
am I that year.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Really it was crazy because I'm used to totally paying
my dues and I didn't like. I went there and
it was like, ah Beatlemania and everything and the and
we played on their their version of the Grammys or
the Junos the Golden Disc Awards.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
They only have one.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
They only have one international artist and they and so
we played and then we won Best New Artist and
Best Jazz Artists.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
And stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Uh and uh and I had to go up and
and well I didn't have to, but they asked me
to go up and present awards and so I did
and and the best uh, they wanted me to present
two wards.
Speaker 9 (33:11):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
One was to these uh this this duo named Chaga
and Aska, and they were like these two young cute
boys kind of boy band thing.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
And so well, I I go blah.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Blah blah blah blah, and the nominees are they don't
really do that the same way, like they're kind of
on it more honest about it.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
There they go, whoever sells the most wins.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Right, which is what it is here.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
But pretended, isn't.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
Yeah, but anyway, they just go. They just want They
just don't even bothers go. If you sell the most,
you win buttah.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
So anyway I go, and the winner is chag ahead
Aska waw and then and the crowd with all wild
and stuff and they come out and uh and I go, oh, congratulations,
and I kissed them on the cheek. Holy mackerel. It
was as though I had like dry humped them or
something like.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
It was like, I don't know, it was it was
like the crowd went bananas because I guess that.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Was a four.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
You know, that's what we do here normally, but that
was a very forward gesture, I guess at the time.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
And there were so many young girls in the audists.
They were just like, oh my gosh, like that anyway,
I ruined Japan.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
You ruined Japan right there. That was the end of Japan.
They were just like, we have a million things we
can do now, we are free.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
We can that's right, Holly Cole, freedom, that's right. And
not only that, I would also just like to point
out that Holly Cole on this podcast also said dry hump.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I know, I'm again, didn't didn't you didn't trouble, didn't
you present? Didn't you didn't like Madonna couldn't accept an
award or something.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
I did that later. I was having a blast, that's right.
So the last award was is the award for the best.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Well, we have the best new artist, so I guess
it was the best old artist, the best like international artists, and.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
It was Madonna. And it was like, oh my god,
what a shock.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
She's not here to be able to accept your So
I so I thought, well, if she's left a video
acceptance speech.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
So I'll just say whatever I want.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
So so I just said, I said, well, you know,
ladies and gentlemen, this is a special This is funny
that anyway, this is special for me because I'm I
get to I get to present this award to one
of my dearest, closest friends. Please welcome Madonna. Oh oh
Madonna can't be here, but she sent a video acceptance speech.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Madonna. Baby, hey, darling, can you do me a favorite? Yeah? Exactly, yeah,
Oh you.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
Can't be here.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Oh I see, Okay, I'll take this home for you.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Were you close personal friends with Madonna at the time, No, no, no,
that's why it's funny, yeah, funny. It reminds me because
when I when I was reading that, I was like,
I don't think they're friends.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
I've never met her.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Right, and so this is so that So when I
was when I was reading that, because I was literally
going to ask you about that too, it reminded me
of did you see Weird Al's Weird Al's biopic?
Speaker 4 (36:19):
No?
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Oh, yes, I did with them with the guy from uh.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Harry Ry Potter.
Speaker 7 (36:23):
Yeah I did that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
And he's like he's like married to Madonna and like
they have like this whole fuck this whole relationship and stuff.
And then there's an interview which I'm like, what, No,
that didn't happen. And there's an interview with with with
Al about the movie, and they were like, what is
all this about Madonna? He's like, I met her for
like twelve seconds at a at a like an after
party thing, and that she hates My Guts and that's
(36:47):
the end of it. So he's like, so I did this, Well,
I can at.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Least I can say that I don't think she hates
my guts. Maybe she does now that she saw that clip, but.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I don't mean, I don't think she doesn't have a
militia spone in her body, that woman.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I don't. I don't. I don't think. Are we talking
about the same Madonna here or no?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
All right, no, okay, I thought we went back to Atlantis.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, okay, now before we before, because I can't let
you go just yet, I do, I really do want
to talk to you, kind of going back to You
were born in Halifax, Nova, Scotia. Okay, And of course
your father, Leon is a famous CBC broadcaster, which is awesome.
(37:33):
So when when did you make the trek to well,
essentially Ontario?
Speaker 6 (37:40):
Basically when I was nineteen, okay, and I came with
my brother, My brother Alan Cole, he writes musical theater shows,
and we both we came together.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
He went to Berkeley College of Music and we came
together and I went. I studied at Humber College music
at Humber College here interact, Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
No, did I did you?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I went to Humber. I was at Humber your drums drums? Yeah,
I was there ninety one to ninety four.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
I can't remember what years I was there, but but
that sounds good.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
It wasn't ninety one to night, which I wish I
was there with you at the same time. Yeah, because
then maybe I could have had a chance to play
in the Holy Coul trio.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
But you were getting fired for getting replaced by drum machines, right.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, thanks for my good, my good friend Derek replacing
me with a guy named Roland or Yamaha, I'm not sure.
Speaker 9 (38:35):
What it was.
Speaker 7 (38:36):
Roland.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
Roland was much more amicable.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Okay, god, yeah, So Samuth Sasmouth, he's as me being
as in me being what I am right now. So okay,
let's talk about your influences if we could please, as
far as songwriting, as far as you know, instruments, your
beautiful voice, if you could just kind of sure, Well,
(39:01):
we know we know about Tom Waits obviously, yeah right,
we know we obviously know about him, but any any
other influences.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
That well, a number of jazzingers, Nina Simone and Betty
Carter and you know, Ella and Sarah and Billy.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Of course those people won the Elephantzgerald Award.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Oh my god, I did that.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
You know, Of all the awards that I have, that
is my like prize, most prized one by far.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
That was the real that was that was very moving. Actually,
you know when I won that?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, sorry I cut you off about him.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
No, that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I just saw my opportunity.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
If I may, I've got a story for you, Holly. Yeah,
it's actually about some of your favorite singers. This would
have been nineteen ninety seven. I believe I was working
at a store in Toronto called Just Drums.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Yeah, I remember Just Drums.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Finch and Young. So I've worked in there. Yeah, it's
so yeah, Ah, that's right. Mark French was there, that's right. Yeah,
played with Blue Rodeo that I was that when Mark
was there o. Great guy, great guy. And so we
got this drummer come in one day and a British
fellow and he walks in and he says, hello, I'm
(40:16):
Martin Drew, and I'm kind of like, gosh, why does
that name sound familiar? And he says, I'm playing a
gig downtown at a place called the Montreal Bistro. I
need to rent a drum set and I need someone
to set it up and tear it down for him,
and I'll pay you. I said, done, no problem. I'm
your guy because I used to play it. I would
play with you. At Jazz Trio at Montreal at Montreal Bistro.
(40:39):
I love that bar, ye, So anyway, I said, may
I ask who you're playing with and he says, yes,
I'm playing with Oscar Peterson. And I said excuse me,
and he said, yeah, I'm playing with that guy, Oscar Peterson.
So anyway, he says, we're doing a rehearsal tomorrow at
(40:59):
Oscar's house in Mississauga. Could you do me a favor
and just do a quick pitstop with that drum set.
I'll make sure that it gets from Oscar's house to
the Montreal Bistro and then you just need to bring
it back from the bar. I said, done, no problem.
So he says, this is what I need. I loaded
into my car. The very next day, I drive out
to Mississauga out around where the Canadian Open used to be.
(41:21):
I can't remember the name of that golf course, glenn Abbey,
Glenna Abbey. That's so he kind of lived around that area.
And this beautiful big house and there's these giant oak
doors and it's like that classic.
Speaker 9 (41:35):
Joan right, I knock on the door and his bike
in Labyrinth kind of his butler, very good, Derek, his
buttons door. Butler opens the door and he says, hello, Craig, Yes,
do me a favor. The music room is down that hall.
Turn left at the end of the hallway. Set up
the drums on the right hand side of the room.
(41:57):
Don't touch anything. And I said, yes, sir, So I
walk in. I set up the drums, I get everything going.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
I do my thing. As I'm leaving Oscar Peterson's house,
I'm walking out and I turn and I look and
there's this giant poster on the wall. And it's a
poster of Oscar Peterson, Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughan,
and Duke Ellington sitting on a park bench in front
(42:26):
of the Eiffel Tower in nineteen fifty seven, drinking a
glass of red wine. And they all signed it like
to my Oscar. Right so, And I'm like, that poster
is like a half a million dollars.
Speaker 4 (42:41):
Like.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I'm just sitting there looking like kind of doing No,
I'm not, I didn't do that in Oscar Peterson.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Your ears for a second, right, Yeah, Craig, what appendage
did you rub on that?
Speaker 7 (42:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Derek Darrek what I blew it? A kiss? That's what
I That's the only thing that I did some of
my my heroes. So anyway, unbelievable. I just want I
just wanted to share. I just wanted to share that
with you. The picture there was I there, right, would
that have been awesome? Seriously? And then the coolest thing,
of course, was because I had to take the drums
(43:14):
back with me, I got to check out the Oscar
Peterson trio at the Montreal be Stroll.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
That was very very cool.
Speaker 5 (43:21):
I bet it was. It was just the bass player.
Do you remember the.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Bass player was John Pattatucci.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
Okay, yeah, well what a great band.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Right, yeah, just a little bit, you know. Yeah. But
what's interesting about Oscar too is like, did you ever
meet Oscar?
Speaker 6 (43:36):
I didn't meet him, but I but I I sang
at his his after he died, at his tribute that
they did a huge tribute to him in Japan and
with Makoto Ozone, who's I don't know if Makoto Ozone,
like he's a great Japanese piano player, and with him
and his his Oscar's wife asked me to go.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
Over and do it, so I did. Yeah, oh yeah,
it was pretty amazing, kind.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Of a big deal, kind of big deal. Yeah, just
just saying yeah, wow, Okay, now I just realized I've
got like eight other things that I want to talk
with you about.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
It.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I want to talk about one thing. A thank, I
have a thing.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
It's my turn.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
I want to know what intersection your car stalled out
at that you had to push it off the road
and drive it and steer it at the same time.
Speaker 5 (44:23):
Okay, Now, how do you know that.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Derek is He's actually the master of the Internet, he
really is.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
It was I'll tell you exactly where it was. It
was Saint Clair and Bathurst.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
And yeah, and terrible intersection.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
It is a terrible intersection, terrible and it's stalled right
in the middle of it.
Speaker 6 (44:42):
And it was a nineteen sixty uh, nineteen sixty six
grand to Reno.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Jesus got like a really a small car.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
Oh my god, no, and my dog was in it
and too and everything and and it's so I had
Roda Roda.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yes, wow man, I am Dave Bookman incarnate.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Wow. Wow, Turkey, that's impressive.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Rhoda used to jump into the driver's seat and learn
to haunt the horn.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
Yeah, yes, wow, this has blown my mind.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Well, yes, I'm really good. I'm really good at googling.
I'm I'm very very good at googling.
Speaker 5 (45:19):
You know what I learned. I learned from that is
that you're the dogs. There's no way to train them
to not do it.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, once they do it, once they get that noise.
It's just it's funny because you'll.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Come back like they land on the horn, and then
you come back and you go, don't do that. Then
you leave and you come back, and that's what they
want you to do, is.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Just to look what mommy's doing. She's playing a game
with me a yeah, exactly right, yeah, and she's back again.
My tail goes yeah exactly speaking, which actually one of
my dogs is like, oh, you're copying dogs, and now
my dog Miso is beside me here. Uh yeah, Miso
and Cozy are our two dogs. So okay, by any
(46:03):
crazy chance, when you found out that that disc jockey
in Japan heard your song at a listening booth, do
you know if it was a Tower.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Records, I think it was a Tower Records.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Act probably would have been right it was the Tower Records, Yeah,
because that was I think that was the biggest chain
in in Japan at the time, and that was one
of the things that the so I saw that great
documentary on Tower Records, and the owner is that's one
of the places He's like, I really want to get
into Japan because I love the culture, I love I
(46:38):
just love the country. So we got to get there. Okay, Yeah,
if you get a chance, it's it's a wonderful documentary.
I'll put it up in the stream chat when I
find it here. But anyway, okay, so listen, let's talk
about uh, let's let's finish up here. We've we've kept
you for almost an hour. Do want to talk about
your latest Dark Moon as far as this project goes.
(46:59):
Do you have any idea when you're going to be
kicking off some shows?
Speaker 7 (47:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (47:03):
Well the first the first gigs are in Japan and
in March.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
In March, okay, perfect, And any chance of like Canadian dates, Well.
Speaker 6 (47:13):
We're playing in April I think it's twenty fifth or
twenty seventh in Peterborough and then we yeah, and then
the July and then July.
Speaker 5 (47:25):
Sorry, I don't have my schedule right in front of me,
but I have it.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Do you want it?
Speaker 7 (47:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (47:29):
Will go go man?
Speaker 6 (47:30):
Go.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
She told you, I'm really good at this game. You
are in October, You're starting in Quebec October. No, sorry,
that's sorry, that's last year.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
March. March is in Tokyo, April is April twenty seventh
is in Peterborough, and then back to montrealal July second,
and then Mariposa.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
I think we might be playing Mariposa after that.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Doesn't say Mariposa.
Speaker 5 (47:56):
Okay, maybe it's not confirmed.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Okay, Oh, it'd be good if you were playing Mariposa.
Speaker 5 (48:00):
I know I've never played America.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
The other things, Okay, good, good stuff. But Derek will
have it for us in just a second. So listen, Holly.
We cannot thank you enough for your time.
Speaker 5 (48:15):
You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
You are just hilarious and I love it. Honestly, we
really hope that you know, you'll come back sometime because, honestly,
if if you really do start getting more dates, especially
if there's a possibility maybe in the second half of
the year of maybe being a small Canadian tour or
something like that, we'd love to have you back on
and talk about because I can tell you still Demitrius
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really bummed out at the fact that he's not here
right now.
Speaker 6 (48:40):
So yeah, and you're you're you're experiencing duper's delight. You
know what, duper's delight over the fact that to beat
you didn't get to do this.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
I am, Yeah, you know, I'm the real killer thing.
I'm kind of is it.
Speaker 5 (48:54):
Yes, it's called duper's delight.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, I don't have that, then, I know you.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
I want wonder if the Zodiac killer had duper's delight.
Speaker 5 (49:03):
I wonder, but nobody knows because they don't know who
he is.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That's right. They never got the Zodiac, did they?
Speaker 5 (49:09):
But you know who did have duper's delight?
Speaker 2 (49:12):
With O. J.
Speaker 5 (49:12):
Simpson.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
That's where that's he's not necessarily a serial killer, but
or he's not even a killer according to some people.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
But anyway, right right, Yeah, nobody buys that.
Speaker 5 (49:25):
Nobody buys that.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
Yeah, no, there's no there's no info on twenty twenty
five Mariposa by the way, Oh there there's no info
on anybody for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Okay, not just not just you. Okay, all right, good stuff,
So listen, thank you, thank you, thank you so much
for being here tonight. We really really appreciate you. My
pleasure honestly, this has been a blast. You really are
just a Canadian gem and we appreciate you so freaking much.
So thank you for the music and the memories.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
You're so welcome.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
That's all I can say.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Okay, and I apologize for my deft googling knowing things
that most people don't. I think it's great, I know,
but sometimes it can be jarring, like I could decide
I understand. Like we did an interview a while back
and I mentioned something from somebody and they were like, what,
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Oh I shouldn't know that, that should not be information
I have.
Speaker 5 (50:23):
Oh, well there these are. Actually I was happy to
remember the things that you mentioned.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
Wonderful. Okay, good, that's.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Good, excellent, all right, Holly Cole. The latest Dark Moon
was released back well the end of January. It is
available now, so download it, buy it, stream it. All
of that good stuff and it's it really is just
a gorgeous, gorgeous listen. I think coming back to Me
is probably my favorite. But we are going to spin
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for you. We're going to do a No Moon at
All and a Johnny guitar. Okay, So again, Holly, thank you,
thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
It's been wonderful.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Thank you so very absolutely, thanks so much. We'd love
to have you back sometime. Okay, great, awesome. This, of
course is the one and only Holly Colt right here
on Revolution Radio Canada, Canadian as heck, number one fourteen.
Can you believe we've done over one hundred of these things?
Speaker 1 (51:16):
Is that where we are?
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah? Yeah, I know here it is Revolution Radio Canada.
See you, guys, thank thank you so much, thank you.
No moon at all?
Speaker 7 (51:31):
What a night?
Speaker 4 (51:32):
Even lightning bugs have dimmed, their light stuffs have disappeared
from sight, and there's no moon at all.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
Don't make a sound.
Speaker 7 (51:44):
It's so dark. Even five oh is afraid to ark?
Speaker 5 (51:49):
What a perfect chance up bargain?
Speaker 7 (51:51):
There's no moon at all?
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Should we want atmosphere.
Speaker 7 (52:00):
Inspiration? Dear, one kiss will make it clear?
Speaker 6 (52:05):
Tonight is writing bride, more light might and a fair
no more at all above?
Speaker 7 (52:12):
This is nothing like they.
Speaker 6 (52:14):
Told us so, just to think we fell in love
and there's no moon at all?
Speaker 4 (52:36):
Should we want atmosphere for inspiration?
Speaker 5 (52:54):
Dear, one kiss will make it clear?
Speaker 7 (52:58):
Tonight is writing right moonlight my insphere now your ear
oh so near?
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Who's the deer in my ear?
Speaker 6 (53:08):
There's no moon at all about this is nothing like
they told us so just to think we.
Speaker 7 (53:17):
Fell in love and there's no moon at all, No
moon at.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
All, no moon at all.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Play the guitar, Lay.
Speaker 7 (53:46):
It again, my Johnny.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
Maybe you're cold, but you're sommon.
Speaker 7 (54:03):
I was always a fool for my Johnny, for the
one they go, Johnny gets play it again?
Speaker 2 (54:29):
What if you go?
Speaker 7 (54:32):
What if you stay?
Speaker 5 (54:34):
I love you?
Speaker 1 (54:39):
What if your crew?
Speaker 2 (54:42):
You can be kind?
Speaker 4 (54:44):
I know.
Speaker 7 (54:49):
There was never a man.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Like my Johnny.
Speaker 8 (54:59):
Like the the cold.
Speaker 7 (55:02):
Johnny gets play it again, Johnny.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
What if you go? What if you stay?
Speaker 8 (56:07):
I love you?
Speaker 1 (56:11):
What if you're crew?
Speaker 7 (56:14):
You can be kind? Dyed?
Speaker 8 (56:22):
There was never a man like my Johnny like the
one they call Johnny get.
Speaker 7 (56:40):
Lay it again? Oh, lay it again, Johnny, Get.
Speaker 1 (57:05):
Johnny guitar. That was one of the latest from Holly Cole,
who joined us here today. That was fantastic. Jesus crap,
that's a good song. I don't think that's a good line.
I can't say Jesus crap on there. I think that's bad.
Speaker 2 (57:19):
That edit.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
That bleep bleep Where does the bleep bleep button? Don't
you have a bleep bleep button.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Say say it again, Jesus cray, there it is.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
You weren't you didn't come in Jesus fucking all right,
you can't say Jesus fuck either.
Speaker 2 (57:34):
Don't do that. Don't say that. Just take us home, Derek, Hey,
can I just want to go back.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
I want to go back for a second.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
So what did you say funk off?
Speaker 9 (57:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (57:44):
I said uh huh oh you said off. I was like,
what have I done? Now? I'm gonna say so right?
Speaker 5 (57:54):
So I wanted to So.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
She Holly Woon the Ella Fitzgerald Award that was twenty thirteen,
being only the fifteenth recipient.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Very that award man, very freaking cool, and she deserves
it because she's a lifelong jazzer.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
Oh my god, you okay, So like what you said
when we were talking about the songs off this album.
So the two that we played absolutely great. The last
one Jony guitar, that's that's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Yeah, done proper, that's a beautiful song. Absolutely. I dig it. Yep. Wow,
wicked stuff, dude. This was fuck. This was so much fun.
She's awesome.
Speaker 1 (58:41):
She's awesome. Anyway, let's bring it home.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
So take it home, Derek, take us home.
Speaker 1 (58:46):
Here, there, everywhere, and all in between. Thanks for coming
by hanging out with us. Sorry Dimitri you weren't here haha.
Hope we answered all asked the calls questions that Dmitri
wanted to ask, Miss Holly Coal. But if not, better
luck next time. But again, thank you for hanging out
with us. Thank you for taking this trip down through
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Canadian heritage, music, stuff and knowledge that we have in
our heads. And tune in next bike next week we
have I don't know what we have.
Speaker 2 (59:19):
I don't know what we have.
Speaker 1 (59:20):
Craig, do you have anything next week?
Speaker 2 (59:22):
I'm not sure as of yet. We'll keep you posted.
Speaker 1 (59:25):
Tom Tom Curtis is gearing up for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (59:28):
Check us out Revolution Radio dot Live.
Speaker 1 (59:30):
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that army Chris doesn't like us, saying, also, hey, tune in.
Tune in Friday nights you can see my show, My
show nine o'clock Eastern Standard Time, all uncovered with Derek.
This guy Jurky mac sure cockin. I'm gonna change my
I'm gonna change my name on my show to Jurky
Macsure Cocking.
Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
I don't think so. Lewis is much better. I like Durky.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Make sure it made people laugh. Anyway, we should go
to bed, have a wonderful night, kids.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Longest, take home my pepper. If this was uber, you'd
be late. I would be so late.
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yeah, but at least there'd be water and a a
a lovingly laid out splendor of colognes of which we
could peruse.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Sure, absolutely, I don't take a night.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Craig take good night, Craig, Good night, Craig, good job.
Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Good night everybody. Thanks so much for hanging out Canadian And.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
See now you're doing it making it longer.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I had to I had to actually say the thing.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
I did say the thing.