May 20, 2022 • 25 mins
An interview with tribute artist Pauline Kaytanua Wood
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to live stories, I'll talk Radio Whales, the
people at the heart of your community, telling it as
it is.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We'll come along to talk Radio Whales. And we have
a star. A star has been born. This is Pauline
Kaitanua Wood. Who is a tribute.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
At That's right?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yes? And what what you perform as as your tribute?
Do you do different people or the same person?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, for the actual award, I'm doing Tina Turner, right,
and that's one of my tributes. I also tribute Dane
Shirley BASSI.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, I've seen that and oh wow, So a female
Freddie or did you do it in you try and
do it sort of a manly Freddy? Or do you
do it as a female Freddy?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
No, as a female but dressed in all Freddie's gia
and nor mustache?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And how does that go down with the guys? Do
they do kind of women?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, nearly five years now, I've been doing Freddie Mercury
and I've always loved Queen. I saw them three times
live and I always thought, if ever I was a man,
I would.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Be well, if ever I was a woman, I'd have
been teena to be honest. But do you collect some
of the memorabilia from your tribute acts. Do you try
and fashion everything around them? The style when they look there?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, with my Tina Turner and Shirley Bassy, I do
style my outfit my hair around them definitely, and also
even the way they talk and the way they the
way they sing, and well I've been doing. My first
tribute was Shirley Buffy over over ten years now and
(01:49):
I think before then I'll be well alsogether twenty five
years of performing, and I've always had I'm proud to
be Welsh, and I've always had a very strong, powerful voice.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Where do you get the outfits from them? I mean,
they've got to be quite special, and I guess they
must be sort of almost tailored for you because you know,
you may not be the size of Tina too and
all the size of Freddie Mercury.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I know, yes, you're right, the certain style with Shirley
Bassy obviously, the long slits, very sparkly dressed. I went
online for my first Chili Baffy dresses all sequence and
sometimes they didn't have a split, so I had to
make my own split. Yeah, but they were they were
proper show off dresses like that was the way Shirley Bassy.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
On You can't. You can't go on stage and a
set of ones easily, can You've got to go for
it down you that the glam has to sort of
correct sort of.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Thing, definitely, And she was very some buoyant and she
wanted something spectacular. That's the whole Bassy way. And then
Tina Turner, I was more the other way. Wasn't the
long dress which is a short of the better n
he has more? You know, there's a pair of legs then, which, yeah,
(03:05):
thankfully I've got quite a good pair. Right.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, we haven't got video on at the moment than
you know, so we can't. We can't confirm that for
for sort of true, true, trusted journalism, we'll take your
word for it. Just looking at you know, tribute acts
in general. You know, in the past they kind of
had a sort of a repetition as like oh God,
not another thread agree, or God, not another not another
simply read. But I mean, I've been looking at some
(03:32):
of these people. I've got a friend Mike Bassid, who
does simply make and meet law. I've seen I've seen
numerous tribute acts and I'm just gobsmacked. They're absolutely fantastic.
And I've been watching your videos, you know, I mean
your Tina Turner, you're Shirley Bassie. I'm seen the Freddie Murpury,
but I've seen those and it's just incredible.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I just actually love performance. And not only that, Like
eighty percent of it is have to relate to your audience.
You've got to make them feel as if you are
trying to be somebody. But obviously I myself as well,
because you put yourself into it. I think if you
just was very structured and just dially and not put
(04:16):
yourself in it, well I don't think it becomes real
the audience then, so you've got to do that. My
personal way of doing it is putting myself into that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, it's almost like it's almost like an impression is
to just does the sound of the voice, but does
not actually put any emotion into that or any comedy
into that. So it would be very worrying.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But I like a bit of a bit of humor,
and I think that's how you relate the audience. They
enjoy it as well. If it was too if it
was too straight, I think you may as well have
Shirley Bassy in the audience anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, what about the younger people? I mean, you know,
obviously if this is I guess your audience is quite diverse.
But for younger people, I'm thinking my kids and that
you know, some of the younger ones, you know make
you know, who are these people? How? How do you
How do they take it? Do they sort of warm
up to it? Or do they get up on the floor?
Do they sort of I guess they're listening to it
(05:09):
on the radio.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Fairly surprised how you youngster even chilled them? You know,
actually actually love what I do. They love my movement
and for them it's just somebody entertainment and they don't
know Shirley Bassy or they don't know Freddie muk and
I'm talking about sometimes the natures. Yeah, they're there and
they're looking up in amazement thinking, and they love it.
(05:33):
And I interact with them as well, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I remember listening to a few interviews with various people.
Tom Jones is one of them, saying about how hard
it was to perform in some of the clubs around
Wheels and you know, half the time there was fighting
as he was sort of hitting the crescendo of music
and something you grab him. We've got to get out
of your tom sort of thing. You know, what's what's
it like these days? I mean to the clubs. Do
(05:58):
you do, cruises? Do you do? Where do you get
your audiences? Are you sort of booked through agents?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
When I started off, I use agents a lot because
you've got to get on the circuit and you've got
to get to be known. And I was doing cover
shows then, but once I started my tipooge shows, it
was more hard workers. You've got to get you've got
to contact venues, you've got to send links of your
singing pictures. So it's hard work getting that sort of
(06:29):
but once it starts and then and then you seize
you then it's spread. It's like it's like wildfire. The
words spread. We've got to see this person. So it
takes a while to get known, but eventually you do
get known after you know, years of hard work. And
obviously I still use agents and they recognize who I am,
(06:51):
and you know, they spread the word as well. Then,
so we work together, you know, and also I do
direct as well.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
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Speaker 2 (07:20):
Back with Pauline Katano would attribute act too, does Tina
Turner and Freddie Murkley and Shirley Bassie. What with the awards?
Now you're up for the twenty twenty three in February.
These are the big awards. I can see. It's a
huge list of.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
People there, myself as Tina Turner, a.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Nicky Rivers as Elvis Scotts, Wagonborne.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Wagonborn man, Yeah, bagonborn man.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So this looks this looks like it's going to be
a very big event and a long event because I'm
looking at the number of people there who are competing.
This this could go on all night, I know, just.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Will it have to?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Now?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
In February in the Welsh Vegelm Awards, there's going to
be so many people entering. Now there's going to be
two there's going to be ceremony one and ceremony two.
And then because I've gone top of the vote in
I'm automatically through to the national Okay. It's in Newport, Newport, right, Okay. Yeah,
(08:26):
and it's the first time these particular awards have been
in Whales. They've been held in in England.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah. So we've got dancers as well.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yes, lords of dancers, gosh late to them.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
All mind performing arts on cheer school as well. So
this is all in one day rather than it's not
going to be over two days. It's going to be
over one days.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In yes, in one day. I think I'm the first ceremony.
I'll be in from twelve till three And what.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Is it a panel of judges that are going to
be listening to you?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I think there is.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'm not complete, be like, it's not going to be
like the what you call it the X Factor and
the buzzer.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Get off you never know Plus five and Carol might
be there.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, I mean you're gonna have a huge audience because
I mean each of these people are going to bring
a shed load of people with them as well, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, definitely. It's so lovely just to just to be
nominated and we have The voting went out on the
twenty sixth, I think of April and it went on
kill the fifth of Me, And all I did was
ask everybody I knew that saw me singing, even people
increased because I sang, increased in sicking stuff, and they
(09:39):
all voted and I felt overwhelmed the people actually, you know,
they voted for me and they remembered me, and it
was a fit. But just that on its own was
a really nice, uplifting feeling that people were call me
like you know and seeing me.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Okay, we're gonna We're gonna treat the listeners now to
a couple of sort of well a bit of a
minute or so of one of your tracks. So I'll
be back with you anymore. Which is going to play
one of your tracks?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Were that.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I was saying about.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
That we were out in the battle line wow in
the bossy where sat in the bass.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Then for us side.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
There we are that was probable in Katani would singing
a fantastic tribute act as you heard there. So what's
the future for you? I mean, you know you're you're
looking at you're doing this as a tribute act and
the aim, my guess, is to be the UK number one.
The European number one, the world number one, we hear
(11:36):
some of the problems that people have had. I think
it was a kind of remember one of the tribute
acts is going through some kind of legal kiss with
the American artist. I can't remember where that was now,
but yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I think that was.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's the way it was.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I think it's the way they actually put the poster right,
and it wasn't convincible that they said they should be, rather.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Than that's right, and I think it was in the
same it was in the same location as where Tina
was performing, as it was Berlin. I think it was.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I think you've gotta be careful because sometime it's put
a picture of Tina turn when you're forminga don't. I
don't particularly like that because I'm not Tina Turner. But
I'd rather use my own picture that people know that, oh,
this is Pauline Winnership is Tina Turner, rather than put
a picture of Tina Turner that, yeah, because they.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Might have been to see another Tina Turner act and
that wouldn't have been so good. But they know, as
you say, it's your name, so they know what this
good is good. This is Pauline Tina Turner rather than
you know, may VI's to Tina Turner, who's not very good.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Or they might say, oh, that's that Welsh matter Tina Turner. Yeah.
So no, I've had people say that. I remember going
to the cave is One a venue for the small
Vannumine Cardiff and leads to me and she said, my
grandmother actually saw Shirley Bussy upstairs when she was eighteen
(13:11):
in the same room I was with Hirly Buffy and
this was upstairs. Oh my god, here the am you know,
Jerlie Bussy? That was quite But I've never had anybody
famous can see.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
You know?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Do you get people in the audience singing along and
sometimes probably you know, the odd cat calling real you know,
out of tune sort of heckler almost in the audience. God,
that's spoiling my performance. You know, how do you deal
with that?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You've gotta be well, you gotta be care or diplomatic.
Inside you feel like saying something, but you've gotta go.
You gotta to smile and if they and make a
joke of it, if somebody says anything, or you know,
sometimes they just want they just want laugh themselves. So
even if you've got people trying to if you're got
(14:03):
a small stage and they come on to the stage,
you've got to be diplomatic and slowly walk off the
stage with them. So that's you have because you learn this.
There's experience how it's dealing with people, and and everybody's happy.
Then you know, I remember once long actually children can
be so honest thing the children. Yeah, and you know
(14:26):
I came out of Tina Turner and all of a
sudden he said, the good boy, you must have been
only able. That's a wig. I said, all right, go
sit down now.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And as far as family life goes, I mean, do
you ever sort of do the dishes or the Sunday lunches,
Tina Turner? Do they kind of like, you know, are
you attempted to come in and and do that.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
No.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
So I think when I've had a really good show,
I just I'm on like you feel like you're in
the clouds walking out of the out of the very
And they would think, gosh, all I all I am
concerned of is making the audience happy and making them
have a good show. And I could feel every time
I do a really good show, if you could feel it,
(15:13):
And then you just take your wig off and then
you become yourself again, which takes a while to come down.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I imagine you've got a lot of background stuff, photos,
videos that you study and look at the mannerisms and
look at the way they kind of hold themselves in
order to get as close as.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You can have you yea. And the thing if you
know Tina Turner, I think she was her self on
the stage and she'd have a laugh, and I think
she was more She's a bit more down to earth,
and Shirley surely was more you know regals that we
would have a laugh as well. That's I think with Tina,
(15:53):
she's more a bit more grounded. But you know, I
read about their backgrounds as well, and some times they
have got very similar backgrounds, which sometimes is like myself.
You know, you go through a lot of ups and
downs to your life, you know, and the emotional times
which Tina had in her early life and saw did Shirley.
(16:14):
And you think sometimes it helps you emotionally to get
that song out because you do think about those things
when you're singing emotional songs about the path. You know,
it's a good positive thing to do a tribute and
as a lot of people think, oh, and they shouldn't
do it if they've passed away, but I think it
keeps their legacy going and people don't want to forget.
(16:36):
I know a lot of people with Freddie Mercury and Queen,
they don't want to go and see Adam Lambert. But
I think it's an awesome show. And you know, he's
not trying to be like Freddie Mercury, but he's he's
honoring Queen as a whole life, you know, and he's
flammed by into like Freddie, but in his own way,
(16:58):
which I think is yeah, brilliant. It's it's the style
people love, you know. The way their music was was
so different. Creams music was totally different to any mainstream.
They were very original, didn't want to follow anybody else.
They wanted to have You got.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Any plans to be anyone else?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, I do, like with me Houston, which I know
she was like, oh, one of the best voices I've
ever heard, powerful and yet such. She had that spirit
with her and I'm also she's passed away, but her
(17:47):
music hasn't. Definitely. I grew up with loving Barberslie and
she was my size and I was used to listen
to her. It was only about nine ten. I climb
on my mother's fetty and stick by you by the
speaker on the wall speak box speakers, and then listen
(18:11):
to Barbasteuiser. Oh that is fantastic, Vie.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Many thanks for speaking to us, and we'll podcast this,
you know, as usual, it will go online and it'll
go on a website and hopefully it'll inspire sort of
budding singers, budding tribute outs too. Yes, come along because
I think you know, the one thing we do have
in in Wills generally is we have good singers apart
(18:36):
from myself.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But I think initially when you start performing, even before Chabot,
I don't think you should go into tribute straight away, right.
I think you've got to get confidence, like you said,
with audiences. And I think the main thing we've got
these days is karaoke. Oh yeah, if you know that
you've got something to give and then you find right,
(19:00):
just lose one song now and then do it in
a in a setting with an audience. Once you get
up feeling and think, oh that went down quite well. Yeah,
And it's I know it's you know, a cliche whatever,
but it does actually help you get the first bit
of confidence. But the main thing really is learning songs
(19:24):
yourself up in your bedroom, get your own little system going.
You can only look at little system and learn some songs.
And I went to like an open mic used to
be in Morriston in the clays clubs and then the
clay club and I got sold right. Learned three songs
(19:45):
or six songs altogether, and that's how I started. And
there was agents in in in the club and there
they say, okay, I'll come back next week and then
we'll get the more upbeat one. So I did that
and then that was my first my first This gig
was from those open night knife showcase nights, you know,
(20:05):
and uh, somebody from an agent from Swansey. Then he
booked my first gigs. And yes, my knees were shaken.
Everything was shaken, and he's like, that's franky. My needs
to stop shaking out. But you never lose that, you
ever do, okay, And even you know, before I leave
(20:28):
a house, Clive, a partner says, oh, you're terrible before gigs,
you know, moodie. And I once I woke on up stage,
those nerves and't know what it is you just look
up of the ceiling, you look at the lights, and
you think, right, let's go, and then you just give
it all you have because I think you've got to
(20:49):
have a love for signey. You can't just do it. Yeah,
you get to get in the money doing it, but
you've got to love what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, it sounds like so I'm sure you you'll do
well at these nationals. So good luck for the twenty
sixth of February twenty twenty three, and keep us posted
as as you know, to us to the success, you know,
or even if you come second, it doesn't matter, or
thirdy't matter.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I'm glad that I was nominated. Yeah, you know, and
you could be Tom Jones because you know, I'll.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Practice a bit more now when we'll see what happens.
I'm probably more like what's your name? I'm more like that.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
But thank we love the all right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, I'll give it a go, get the wig out
of this afternoon and shock the napors. Many thanks for
speaking to us, and good luck with the nationals. Pauline,
thanks for speaking to us.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Thank you very much, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
We know was a little girl when we do Fama blow.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Oh I thought you just bloy.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I love that Rida. Come, don't really know my mother?
That's wrong and they got wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't know and they got any.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I didn't go fi.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Why love your.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Cares?
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Oh my goo.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
You were your what did you have a puppy?
Speaker 5 (23:08):
But always call you well? I'm obbious, my all, not
that puppy.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
No, I haven't talk of that, you child, but they don't.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Father and he gets.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And haven't nough and it gets, haven't.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Love me?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Can?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I'll love him?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I love you pay and I don't father.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I love s Freend and I have a love man Michael, Mom,
and love s Fred and I.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Like a bay and I still love you by and
I love.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
You babe that river deep.
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
We'll come along to talk Radio Whales. And we have
a star. A star has been born. This is Pauline
Kaitanua Wood. Who is a tribute.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
At That's right?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yes? And what what you perform as as your tribute?
Do you do different people or the same person?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, for the actual award, I'm doing Tina Turner, right,
and that's one of my tributes. I also tribute Dane
Shirley BASSI.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, I've seen that and oh wow, So a female
Freddie or did you do it in you try and
do it sort of a manly Freddy? Or do you
do it as a female Freddy?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
No, as a female but dressed in all Freddie's gia
and nor mustache?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And how does that go down with the guys? Do
they do kind of women?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Well, nearly five years now, I've been doing Freddie Mercury
and I've always loved Queen. I saw them three times
live and I always thought, if ever I was a man,
I would.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Be well, if ever I was a woman, I'd have
been teena to be honest. But do you collect some
of the memorabilia from your tribute acts. Do you try
and fashion everything around them? The style when they look there?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, with my Tina Turner and Shirley Bassy, I do
style my outfit my hair around them definitely, and also
even the way they talk and the way they the
way they sing, and well I've been doing. My first
tribute was Shirley Buffy over over ten years now and
(01:49):
I think before then I'll be well alsogether twenty five
years of performing, and I've always had I'm proud to
be Welsh, and I've always had a very strong, powerful voice.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Where do you get the outfits from them? I mean,
they've got to be quite special, and I guess they
must be sort of almost tailored for you because you know,
you may not be the size of Tina too and
all the size of Freddie Mercury.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I know, yes, you're right, the certain style with Shirley
Bassy obviously, the long slits, very sparkly dressed. I went
online for my first Chili Baffy dresses all sequence and
sometimes they didn't have a split, so I had to
make my own split. Yeah, but they were they were
proper show off dresses like that was the way Shirley Bassy.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
On You can't. You can't go on stage and a
set of ones easily, can You've got to go for
it down you that the glam has to sort of
correct sort of.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Thing, definitely, And she was very some buoyant and she
wanted something spectacular. That's the whole Bassy way. And then
Tina Turner, I was more the other way. Wasn't the
long dress which is a short of the better n
he has more? You know, there's a pair of legs then, which, yeah,
(03:05):
thankfully I've got quite a good pair. Right.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, we haven't got video on at the moment than
you know, so we can't. We can't confirm that for
for sort of true, true, trusted journalism, we'll take your
word for it. Just looking at you know, tribute acts
in general. You know, in the past they kind of
had a sort of a repetition as like oh God,
not another thread agree, or God, not another not another
simply read. But I mean, I've been looking at some
(03:32):
of these people. I've got a friend Mike Bassid, who
does simply make and meet law. I've seen I've seen
numerous tribute acts and I'm just gobsmacked. They're absolutely fantastic.
And I've been watching your videos, you know, I mean
your Tina Turner, you're Shirley Bassie. I'm seen the Freddie Murpury,
but I've seen those and it's just incredible.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I just actually love performance. And not only that, Like
eighty percent of it is have to relate to your audience.
You've got to make them feel as if you are
trying to be somebody. But obviously I myself as well,
because you put yourself into it. I think if you
just was very structured and just dially and not put
(04:16):
yourself in it, well I don't think it becomes real
the audience then, so you've got to do that. My
personal way of doing it is putting myself into that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, it's almost like it's almost like an impression is
to just does the sound of the voice, but does
not actually put any emotion into that or any comedy
into that. So it would be very worrying.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
But I like a bit of a bit of humor,
and I think that's how you relate the audience. They
enjoy it as well. If it was too if it
was too straight, I think you may as well have
Shirley Bassy in the audience anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, what about the younger people? I mean, you know,
obviously if this is I guess your audience is quite diverse.
But for younger people, I'm thinking my kids and that
you know, some of the younger ones, you know make
you know, who are these people? How? How do you
How do they take it? Do they sort of warm
up to it? Or do they get up on the floor?
Do they sort of I guess they're listening to it
(05:09):
on the radio.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Fairly surprised how you youngster even chilled them? You know,
actually actually love what I do. They love my movement
and for them it's just somebody entertainment and they don't
know Shirley Bassy or they don't know Freddie muk and
I'm talking about sometimes the natures. Yeah, they're there and
they're looking up in amazement thinking, and they love it.
(05:33):
And I interact with them as well, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I remember listening to a few interviews with various people.
Tom Jones is one of them, saying about how hard
it was to perform in some of the clubs around
Wheels and you know, half the time there was fighting
as he was sort of hitting the crescendo of music
and something you grab him. We've got to get out
of your tom sort of thing. You know, what's what's
it like these days? I mean to the clubs. Do
(05:58):
you do, cruises? Do you do? Where do you get
your audiences? Are you sort of booked through agents?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
When I started off, I use agents a lot because
you've got to get on the circuit and you've got
to get to be known. And I was doing cover
shows then, but once I started my tipooge shows, it
was more hard workers. You've got to get you've got
to contact venues, you've got to send links of your
singing pictures. So it's hard work getting that sort of
(06:29):
but once it starts and then and then you seize
you then it's spread. It's like it's like wildfire. The
words spread. We've got to see this person. So it
takes a while to get known, but eventually you do
get known after you know, years of hard work. And
obviously I still use agents and they recognize who I am,
(06:51):
and you know, they spread the word as well. Then,
so we work together, you know, and also I do
direct as well.
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Speaker 2 (07:20):
Back with Pauline Katano would attribute act too, does Tina
Turner and Freddie Murkley and Shirley Bassie. What with the awards?
Now you're up for the twenty twenty three in February.
These are the big awards. I can see. It's a
huge list of.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
People there, myself as Tina Turner, a.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Nicky Rivers as Elvis Scotts, Wagonborne.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Wagonborn man, Yeah, bagonborn man.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So this looks this looks like it's going to be
a very big event and a long event because I'm
looking at the number of people there who are competing.
This this could go on all night, I know, just.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Will it have to?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Now?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
In February in the Welsh Vegelm Awards, there's going to
be so many people entering. Now there's going to be
two there's going to be ceremony one and ceremony two.
And then because I've gone top of the vote in
I'm automatically through to the national Okay. It's in Newport, Newport, right, Okay. Yeah,
(08:26):
and it's the first time these particular awards have been
in Whales. They've been held in in England.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah. So we've got dancers as well.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yes, lords of dancers, gosh late to them.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
All mind performing arts on cheer school as well. So
this is all in one day rather than it's not
going to be over two days. It's going to be
over one days.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
In yes, in one day. I think I'm the first ceremony.
I'll be in from twelve till three And what.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Is it a panel of judges that are going to
be listening to you?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I think there is.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'm not complete, be like, it's not going to be
like the what you call it the X Factor and
the buzzer.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Get off you never know Plus five and Carol might
be there.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Well, I mean you're gonna have a huge audience because
I mean each of these people are going to bring
a shed load of people with them as well, aren't they.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, definitely. It's so lovely just to just to be
nominated and we have The voting went out on the
twenty sixth, I think of April and it went on
kill the fifth of Me, And all I did was
ask everybody I knew that saw me singing, even people
increased because I sang, increased in sicking stuff, and they
(09:39):
all voted and I felt overwhelmed the people actually, you know,
they voted for me and they remembered me, and it
was a fit. But just that on its own was
a really nice, uplifting feeling that people were call me
like you know and seeing me.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Okay, we're gonna We're gonna treat the listeners now to
a couple of sort of well a bit of a
minute or so of one of your tracks. So I'll
be back with you anymore. Which is going to play
one of your tracks?
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Were that.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I was saying about.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
That we were out in the battle line wow in
the bossy where sat in the bass.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Then for us side.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
There we are that was probable in Katani would singing
a fantastic tribute act as you heard there. So what's
the future for you? I mean, you know you're you're
looking at you're doing this as a tribute act and
the aim, my guess, is to be the UK number one.
The European number one, the world number one, we hear
(11:36):
some of the problems that people have had. I think
it was a kind of remember one of the tribute
acts is going through some kind of legal kiss with
the American artist. I can't remember where that was now,
but yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I think that was.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
That's the way it was.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I think it's the way they actually put the poster right,
and it wasn't convincible that they said they should be, rather.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Than that's right, and I think it was in the
same it was in the same location as where Tina
was performing, as it was Berlin. I think it was.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I think you've gotta be careful because sometime it's put
a picture of Tina turn when you're forminga don't. I
don't particularly like that because I'm not Tina Turner. But
I'd rather use my own picture that people know that, oh,
this is Pauline Winnership is Tina Turner, rather than put
a picture of Tina Turner that, yeah, because they.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Might have been to see another Tina Turner act and
that wouldn't have been so good. But they know, as
you say, it's your name, so they know what this
good is good. This is Pauline Tina Turner rather than
you know, may VI's to Tina Turner, who's not very good.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Or they might say, oh, that's that Welsh matter Tina Turner. Yeah.
So no, I've had people say that. I remember going
to the cave is One a venue for the small
Vannumine Cardiff and leads to me and she said, my
grandmother actually saw Shirley Bussy upstairs when she was eighteen
(13:11):
in the same room I was with Hirly Buffy and
this was upstairs. Oh my god, here the am you know,
Jerlie Bussy? That was quite But I've never had anybody
famous can see.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
You know?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Do you get people in the audience singing along and
sometimes probably you know, the odd cat calling real you know,
out of tune sort of heckler almost in the audience. God,
that's spoiling my performance. You know, how do you deal
with that?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
You've gotta be well, you gotta be care or diplomatic.
Inside you feel like saying something, but you've gotta go.
You gotta to smile and if they and make a
joke of it, if somebody says anything, or you know,
sometimes they just want they just want laugh themselves. So
even if you've got people trying to if you're got
(14:03):
a small stage and they come on to the stage,
you've got to be diplomatic and slowly walk off the
stage with them. So that's you have because you learn this.
There's experience how it's dealing with people, and and everybody's happy.
Then you know, I remember once long actually children can
be so honest thing the children. Yeah, and you know
(14:26):
I came out of Tina Turner and all of a
sudden he said, the good boy, you must have been
only able. That's a wig. I said, all right, go
sit down now.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And as far as family life goes, I mean, do
you ever sort of do the dishes or the Sunday lunches,
Tina Turner? Do they kind of like, you know, are
you attempted to come in and and do that.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
No.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
So I think when I've had a really good show,
I just I'm on like you feel like you're in
the clouds walking out of the out of the very
And they would think, gosh, all I all I am
concerned of is making the audience happy and making them
have a good show. And I could feel every time
I do a really good show, if you could feel it,
(15:13):
And then you just take your wig off and then
you become yourself again, which takes a while to come down.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
I imagine you've got a lot of background stuff, photos,
videos that you study and look at the mannerisms and
look at the way they kind of hold themselves in
order to get as close as.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You can have you yea. And the thing if you
know Tina Turner, I think she was her self on
the stage and she'd have a laugh, and I think
she was more She's a bit more down to earth,
and Shirley surely was more you know regals that we
would have a laugh as well. That's I think with Tina,
(15:53):
she's more a bit more grounded. But you know, I
read about their backgrounds as well, and some times they
have got very similar backgrounds, which sometimes is like myself.
You know, you go through a lot of ups and
downs to your life, you know, and the emotional times
which Tina had in her early life and saw did Shirley.
(16:14):
And you think sometimes it helps you emotionally to get
that song out because you do think about those things
when you're singing emotional songs about the path. You know,
it's a good positive thing to do a tribute and
as a lot of people think, oh, and they shouldn't
do it if they've passed away, but I think it
keeps their legacy going and people don't want to forget.
(16:36):
I know a lot of people with Freddie Mercury and Queen,
they don't want to go and see Adam Lambert. But
I think it's an awesome show. And you know, he's
not trying to be like Freddie Mercury, but he's he's
honoring Queen as a whole life, you know, and he's
flammed by into like Freddie, but in his own way,
(16:58):
which I think is yeah, brilliant. It's it's the style
people love, you know. The way their music was was
so different. Creams music was totally different to any mainstream.
They were very original, didn't want to follow anybody else.
They wanted to have You got.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Any plans to be anyone else?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, I do, like with me Houston, which I know
she was like, oh, one of the best voices I've
ever heard, powerful and yet such. She had that spirit
with her and I'm also she's passed away, but her
(17:47):
music hasn't. Definitely. I grew up with loving Barberslie and
she was my size and I was used to listen
to her. It was only about nine ten. I climb
on my mother's fetty and stick by you by the
speaker on the wall speak box speakers, and then listen
(18:11):
to Barbasteuiser. Oh that is fantastic, Vie.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Many thanks for speaking to us, and we'll podcast this,
you know, as usual, it will go online and it'll
go on a website and hopefully it'll inspire sort of
budding singers, budding tribute outs too. Yes, come along because
I think you know, the one thing we do have
in in Wills generally is we have good singers apart
(18:36):
from myself.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
But I think initially when you start performing, even before Chabot,
I don't think you should go into tribute straight away, right.
I think you've got to get confidence, like you said,
with audiences. And I think the main thing we've got
these days is karaoke. Oh yeah, if you know that
you've got something to give and then you find right,
(19:00):
just lose one song now and then do it in
a in a setting with an audience. Once you get
up feeling and think, oh that went down quite well. Yeah,
And it's I know it's you know, a cliche whatever,
but it does actually help you get the first bit
of confidence. But the main thing really is learning songs
(19:24):
yourself up in your bedroom, get your own little system going.
You can only look at little system and learn some songs.
And I went to like an open mic used to
be in Morriston in the clays clubs and then the
clay club and I got sold right. Learned three songs
(19:45):
or six songs altogether, and that's how I started. And
there was agents in in in the club and there
they say, okay, I'll come back next week and then
we'll get the more upbeat one. So I did that
and then that was my first my first This gig
was from those open night knife showcase nights, you know,
(20:05):
and uh, somebody from an agent from Swansey. Then he
booked my first gigs. And yes, my knees were shaken.
Everything was shaken, and he's like, that's franky. My needs
to stop shaking out. But you never lose that, you
ever do, okay, And even you know, before I leave
(20:28):
a house, Clive, a partner says, oh, you're terrible before gigs,
you know, moodie. And I once I woke on up stage,
those nerves and't know what it is you just look
up of the ceiling, you look at the lights, and
you think, right, let's go, and then you just give
it all you have because I think you've got to
(20:49):
have a love for signey. You can't just do it. Yeah,
you get to get in the money doing it, but
you've got to love what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, it sounds like so I'm sure you you'll do
well at these nationals. So good luck for the twenty
sixth of February twenty twenty three, and keep us posted
as as you know, to us to the success, you know,
or even if you come second, it doesn't matter, or
thirdy't matter.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I'm glad that I was nominated. Yeah, you know, and
you could be Tom Jones because you know, I'll.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Practice a bit more now when we'll see what happens.
I'm probably more like what's your name? I'm more like that.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
But thank we love the all right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, I'll give it a go, get the wig out
of this afternoon and shock the napors. Many thanks for
speaking to us, and good luck with the nationals. Pauline,
thanks for speaking to us.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Thank you very much, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
We know was a little girl when we do Fama blow.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Oh I thought you just bloy.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I love that Rida. Come, don't really know my mother?
That's wrong and they got wrong.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I don't know and they got any.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I didn't go fi.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Why love your.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Cares?
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Oh my goo.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
You were your what did you have a puppy?
Speaker 5 (23:08):
But always call you well? I'm obbious, my all, not
that puppy.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
No, I haven't talk of that, you child, but they don't.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Father and he gets.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And haven't nough and it gets, haven't.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Love me?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Can?
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I'll love him?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I love you pay and I don't father.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I love s Freend and I have a love man Michael, Mom,
and love s Fred and I.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Like a bay and I still love you by and
I love.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
You babe that river deep.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
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