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Okay, and we are go.That's saying it's loud enough you can hear
everything. So welcome to a actualepisode of cartoon Nomi. Everyone. It
is I your host, Alex Coddle, and I am here with my friend
Matt. Yeah. Hi, Mattis. Matt is probably gonna be our

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probably the most co host you're gonnasee out of this out of this podcast,
because we have time to do somethingtoday and as a yeah, I
mean pretty often, Yeah, Idon't do anything because everybody knows when it
comes to the real cold of productions. This is the realist podcast you everyone
to listen to because life fucking happens. Yeah, because yeah, because half

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the time there's always an interruption,something happens. Oh no, we gotta
we gotta stop, no, keeprecording. This ads to the reality of
our show. Yes, the animalsalways join us. Empress Sophie the Dope
Dove is with us, so happy, smooth, smiling, Ready the hump

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plague. She stares with me withher eyes wishing to murder me. But
Empress, get off the computer.Sophie becaun So today we're gonna have a
fun topic. We are doing GeneralDisney today for yeah, Matt, like

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what we like, we're first wewere gonna talk about Brandy and Mister Whiskers
from two thousand and four Disney Channelin the early two thousand era, but
then we start going on about otherthings like Dave the Barbarian, the Replacements,
h Rah, American Dragon, JakeLong. Yeah, I'm actually looking
at that right now. That's thestuff. Does this so with early two

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thousands? Though, would it alsoinclude like Campossible because that's early two thousands
or are we going okay, solike we're talking at two thousand to like
twenty ten. Yeah, let mesee here, when when did Kim Possible
cut? Oh, buddy, KimPossible was early two thousands, like before

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twenty ten? Well, I knewit was early twenty ten, two thousand
and two, two thousand and two. Okay, Yeah, So going through
all of it, like, let'slet's get a list of kind of like
what we had here, Like there'sBrandy and Mister Whiskers, The Emperor's New
School if you remember that one show? Yeah, I love that. There

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was Yin Yang Yo which aired onDisney Disney XD where it was jed X
at the time. If you rememberjed X, Yeah, that was the
one about the uh, the therab, the pink girl rabbit and the
blue rabbit being kung fu masters andtheir master was a was a panda actually,

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so he was a dead beat panda. I guess Poe made it somewhere.
American Dragon Jake Long Dave the Barbarian. Now this one was a little
like on the nose, but Inever got to watch it at all,
But like the little bit I sawof it, I enjoyed. There was
Kick PASKI yub Daredevils. Yes,let's see here, what house a mouse?

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Yeah, which was like it wasreally good. Yea, let's see
here. Well, how I wouldadd I can't add red. I guess
you we could kind of add recessto it because it's still aired. It
was around the same time. Yeah, yeah, I would say that because
it continued till what how long youlast? Let's see here. Recess aired
till two thousand and one. Itgot at least about because I think the

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movie was at in the two thousands. Yeah, the movie came out in
two thousand and one. School's Out, Yes can Possible was two thousand and
two. Don't forget about the ProudFamily and the Proud Family, Leelo and
Stitch. What else is there?But also that was during the the Epic

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Age acrossover events. If you rememberthat, I remember Lloyd in Space was
one. I never watched a lotof Lloyd in Space. You want to
know one that will probably surprise you. Two thousand and seven is when Phineas
and Ferb showed first. It wasthe first episode. Yeah, that was.
That was very That was late middleschool early high school for me,

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and it like and it would Itgot popular quick, all because of Perry
of the Platypus yep. Certainly.Did I think there was a buzz light
You show at that time too?That was? Was that in the nineties
buzz Lightyear Start Command. No,that was that came out around two thousand.
It came either after or during ToyStory too. So let's see here

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buzz light Year two thousand to twothousand and one, and then the sixty
two episodes. I just looked itup. Also, sixty two episodes were
run as reruns on Disney Channel throughtwo thousand eight. Yeah, because yeah,
we had Patrick Warburton as who dida fantastic job as as buzz light
Year. I agree, I agree. Let's see here you Okay. So

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we also had the Legend of Tarzan, like early two thousand of that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you had uh let's well you had
Timona Pumba, but like that's ninetyfive. Yeah. So like Golden Era,
like Disney and like nineties Disney werelike completely shifts because especially during the

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nineties, we ended up getting likethey were starting to like try to parents
out through their like through the movieshow movies. They had this we because
we had in the nineties, wehad like Hercules, the Mighty Ducks,
o Oils, can't forget Cargo.Well, I'd say that's the Golden that's
the Golden Afternoon of Disney. Yeah, you had shoot the Aladdin animated series.

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Proud Family was yes, two thousandand one. Yep. Do you
remember fish Hooks? I mean that'slike, yeah, I do remember.
I remember a little bit of fishHooks. But also that's where you get
like, oh my god, yeah, I gotta TACKO. Yeah, I
got I gotta take out O.My god. Indeed, so out of
all of them, what was theone you remember them? Oh, Loan

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Stitch the one that I remember themost out of all of them, I
can tell you my three favorites offtop of my head. Okay, impossible,
of course, there's a reason Ilike Redheads to the same here,
I'm just saying, she's one ofthe reasons I love right, one of
the reasons I love Tomboys. Thisdisclaimer, I am only thirty back then.
This was okay, yeah, butwe were we were young. As

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we were young, we were closeenough to their actual ages in the shows.
Oh let's see here. Well,actually Kim Possible was a little older
for me. She was sixteen atthe time. Yeah. Yeah, so
yeah, but Kim Possible Leland andStitched a series. I absolutely lovely the
Switch still to this day. Yeah. And my third favorite from that era

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is uh. I just had inmy head America Dragon. America Dragon,
Amica Dragon. Not when they thefirst like two seasons before they changed the
art style for no absolute reason.Okay, so now, actually I was
talking about that here, not Songgoreally, so for American Dragon, it

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ended up there was a reason theyended up doing. I think they ended
up switching companies. That's possible becauselet me let me, let me find
it. I just had it.There we are because it happened right after
the first season. Is when theychanged it. Because in also at the
same time it was very well done, especially story wise. Do not prompt

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me to rate again. Let's seehere. Yeah, because Jake Long was
the see what year to It cameout in two thousand and four, right,
you know, two thousand and five. Yeah, so Jake Long was
Disney's version of Danny Phantom, especiallybecause it came out a year after,

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and because if I'm being honest,like, would you prefer Danny Phantom or
Jake Long? Me? Yeah,I prefer Nanny Phantom. Yeah, the
long run like better story. Yeah, that's like I'll go with. Also,
like we got a lot more fleshedout stuff from Danny Phantom. I'm

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pretty sure if like Disney actually stuckwith their stuff they Jake Long would probably
be a lot better. Oh yeah, no, I agree with that.
I still think to this day,not only was the art style different,
evidently I looked it up real quick, the art style was changed because they
changed directors. The director didn't likethe art style. He had a general
disdain, is what it said.So I really think one of the biggest

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balls that was ever dropped by Disneywas taking the original American Dragon Jake long
theme song and playing the Jones brothers. We do it. Yeah, they
do it. They did do thesecond Yeah, the second season. I
really think they dropped the ball there. Well. Also, like that was
around the same time when Disney starteddoing more live action. That's true.

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That's true because I believe that's aroundthe time that Jonas Yeah, Jonas,
Yeah, Jonas Fever. You hadWizardly Wizards of Waverley Place. Yeah,
sweet laughter, Zack and Cody HannahMontana was getting huge at the time,
You've had That's so Raven was stillgoing on for Corey in the House was
about to start. Corey in theHouse was indeed about the starts. Corey

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in House was consider one of thegreatest animes. Have you seen their dad?
He would make a damn good animecharacter. I mean, who else
goes from being a chef in lA to being the president chef? You're
not wrong, He's got main characterenergy. I'm here for it. I

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want to. I want to.I want just to mat up like even
like I want like a twelve twelveepisode of How He Got I want I
want the I want I Won,like a third season of Cory in the
House of just like just like it'slike Corey's there, he's just in the
backround. It's like how I metyour mother? Yes, but it's the

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dad. It's the dad from that. So Raymond what's his name? How
I got hired as the President's cook. Yeah, exactly. Now see,
I think another I realized we're talkingabout Disney currently, but I think another
show that kind of in the veinof American Dragon Jake Long. I almost
say in the vain because I believeit came first. You remember Jackie chan

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Adventures. Oh God, I loveJackie Channas. That was early two thousands.
Also, I watched Kids w B. Yeah, yeah, I wonder
if Jake Long took inspiration from it, because I was looking at on the
trivia and instead apparently it took inspirationfrom Harry Potter. And I'm just like,
that's a bit of a stretch,a lot of a stretch. Like

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what it was Randall Sardin who playedVictor Bexter. What's he all? Right?
Listen, if anyone ever comes acrossthis and knows Randall, is that
what he says? Randal Randall?Oh, let me let me do a
check here, the guy that playedCorey and Rondell, Rondell and d E

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l is pronounced. That's so bad. I'm apologizing right away. Don't cancel
us. Uh so s E sh E R I d A N either
way. If anyone from Disney's listening, which I doubt you are, but
if you are, if anyone fromanywhere that would happen to know the dad
of Raven and Corey Baxter, let'sjust get that out there. We need

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a twelve We need a twelve miniseriesof just how he got became the president
from LA to the White House.And it can be like how I Met
the President or something like. Theycan frame it the same way. No,
I want to like I was reincarnatedas the president chef like even even

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if we just have like Raven Simoneand I what is that kid's name?
I am so sorry. If youare listening, Kyle, yes, Kyle
Massey. So we just need ifwe don't even need him young, we
don't even need him young. Weneed the layout your mother he's still there.

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Yeah, We we need the layoutof how I met your mother,
them two on the couch as theyare now, and then their dad.
That's what we need. The lastbig let's see what was the last few
things. He was in What WeNeed Right Now. He was in Big
Boss, which was a movie.He was in Millennials. Who is this

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the guy I played? Corey?Yeah. He also was in Zeke and
Luther. I think it was wasthat what it was? Maybe? No?
No, no, no, no, it was The Kings. He
was in it with Mitchell Musso.He was Milo and fish Hooks. Yeah,
he was the bluefish. I thinkbluefish from Fish Hooks. He was

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the oh, the middle one.Yeah, yeah, the middle one.
He played the dumb one. That'skind of rude. It's kind of rude.
He was in the Electric Company.He was the episode I think he
well, yeah, kind of.I was. So. I don't know
if you're aware of them. MightyMadrosours, Yes, I've heard of that.

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Yeah, apparently he was mister Spooney. He was the Evil Tree Number
one, Kaiji Burger, Long UnderwearWolf In and Ankliosaurus. Can I just
say I feel like it was reallytypecast and I feel bad for him.
Now, there's been a lot ofstuff. We'll shoot a lot of he
was like the latest cartoon he wasin was in Rise of the Ninja Turtles,

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and he was in three episodes andhe played a character named Jeremy.
I cannot remember because I find things. I just got done watching through all
the Rise of the Ninja Turtles.You know what I just watched because I
got the theme song stuck in myhead. Oh God, what U y
O g X? Which is I'mjust saying this right now, Okay,

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Uyo g X is my absolute favoriteYugi oh series. Okay, okay,
okay. I love it, absolutelylove it. I can understand why it
is. It's you move one ofthe other comedy I need to kick you

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out next, Sophie. But anyways, though, like I love, I
can't think of every time when Ithink of you give g x X game
exactly, come to play your coatexactly. I'm just saying, why do
we judge people in Harry Potter houseswhen we have the yu Gio Academy snipher

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read all the way, boy,my boy, Like I ain't smart enough
to be in raw Yellow, I'mtoo poor to be in That's a fact.
I ain't no nepo baby, allright. Like I find like let's
say, like, yeah, we'llwe'll just do like a general thing altogether,

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because that's til we can actually comeup with an episode to come up
with but let's be a broad episodeof just ranting episodes. Sorry, they
got very off track because for becausealso with it the what they ended up
doing with the g g X Ienjoyed, but like I wish it would

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have gone more into it, especiallylike the u Bel saga. I don't
know if you watched any of thelike watched that like after like like four
Kids didn't away with a that wasafter Four Kids got debunked. But have
you seen the movie where it's jadenUgi and the guy from the One Beyond

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Time or something like that. Yeah, it's very good. It's us.
Why is it all the movies areactually legit? But this TV series was
just like, oh you mean hive. You didn't care for five D?
No, not really, I loveI also don't like arc like I've only
gone as far as five D andI didn't even get the finish five third

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Generation. Yeah, that's a sinkerswere involved. Were it made? Yes,
that's as far as I watched andas far as I played. That's
fair because around that time, that'swhen I switched over to magic. That's
fair, that's fair. That wastwenty eleven. That's fair, so kind
of going back because I looked downthe Proud Family. What was your general

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thought on the Proud Family growing up? Like, I enjoyed the show,
but I didn't like I only sawit as just a regular TV show,
Like I didn't really think much intoit and all that, but grow But
like now that I'm the way Iam now, I think the show's phenomenal,
especially like dealing like with the messagesand stuff that it did do back

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then, Like, I think it'sfantastic. I think the same time,
it was a little ahead of itstime with a lot of it even Boondocks
like, but also even back then, like during like the early two thousands,
like well the two thousand to twentyten era, and a lot of
good characters we had, uh sothat's Penny Proud like and like all the

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characters from the Boondogs, which,yeah, I know it's satire, but
it's very well done, especially whendealing with race. We you had Abigail
Lincoln from Kids next Door who what, Let's be honest, Abigail was probably
one of the most badass characters outof the Kids next Door. Trying to
think of some of the others,and that puts me in a bad spot,
makes me look bad. But evengrow even in during like the Kids

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in the nineties and early two thousands, people consider Piccolo black. Yeah,
and I mean I still do,like, Yeah, he is. He
is the blackest character for being greenand DVZ he's the black character. Yeah,
we don't count mister Pope. Popo'sa genie. We don't. We
don't consider Jim Crow to be youknow, Jim Popo. Yeah, we
don't. We don't consider Jim Popoto be black, all right, we

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don't do that, not in thishouse. Even though he is the most
powerful character in that show. Fairbut still he's a little on the nose,
I think, you know what Imean. But I really like growing
Up. I really liked the BrownFamily. I recently watched the newest series

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that they put out. I haven'tyet. I've been hesitant. I'm not
a huge fan. I feel likebecause they kept the same type of humor
and the same type of a lotof stuff that they're they're pushing it.
I won't say the same type ofmessage they're pushing the message kind of maybe
it just didn't feel as natural asthe original. I don't. I'm glad

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they made it. Filmore is agood one, but I'm glad that they
made it. I'm glad they madethat new show, like the new reboot.
But at the same time, Ifeel like it didn't need to be
re addressed. I feel that witha lot of things of not just the
Rockham but it just felt it didn'tfeel as authentic. Yeah, I feel

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if that makes sense. Like theclips and stuff I saw of it,
it was like it wasn't really theywere more going on the high school drama
dealing with it instead of actually onthe issues. And now there was a
couple of times where they like theI think his name is Michael, Yeah,
that is gay. He was obviouslygay in the original yeah, and

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now in the new one he isvery much so I think he's or she,
give me one second, I can'tremember. For some reason in my
head, it's mixed up. Well, while you're doing that, let's see
her. Actually. Around the sametime we had Frozone from The Incredibles came
out. Around the same time wehad Number five, we had Penny Proud

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Susie Carmichael, of course, wasalways a phenomenal character. Gerald Johnson from
Hey, Arnold always a good one. I always loved Gerald. There was
fillmore Princess Tianna thinks that was Iwas twenty ten. Wasn't a princess and
a frog? That was one ofthe last Yeah, the last Disney animn
uh, one of a newer one. Garnets. I think Garnet was a

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wonderful character from Stephen Universe. Yes, I was like, Garnet, that's
not Disney and then yeah, StephenUniverse, Right, Sugar Mama, of
course you gotta you gotta have SugarMama on this list. Yeah, because
it's just like some bus feed onesand it's like Miles Morales was good,
Keisha Franklin from a Magic School Bus? Why they got Cleveland Brown in here?

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Cleveland is good, Cleveland's good,But at the same time, it's
just like one of those like asa good black representation, do you really
want Cleveland Brown as well? Listen. I think there are certain episodes of
Family Guy that he's in that canbe considered good representation. I agree.
I also think the Cleveland Show,certain episode, I want to say the
whole thing because it was all satireand all jokes. I like, the

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funny thing is like, I knowa lot of people hate it, but
I love the Cleveland Show. Ifeel like the Cleveland Show really, to
me was just like it was basicallyFamily Guy and American Dad had a baby
with a Cosby show, Like that'swhat it was and that's not It wasn't
bad, Like was definitely not BillCosby, but he's not Quagmire either.

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No, No, Cleveland went indrug rain of people for no reason.
Now, someone listening to this isgonna send a picture of being like no
Cleveland did in this episode at thistime for you. Blah blah blah blah
blah. If there is, Ido not think and I can like when
it comes to Family Guy knowledge,I can remember about anything going on.
I don't remember Cleveland really doing anythingbad, but bad things always happened to

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Cleveland. Uh Cyborg, Oh yeah, oh yeah, hell yeah one.
That's actually one of my favorite BlackDynamite. Why is the so familiar?
Was that? Okay, Black Dynamitewasn't on an adult swim so it actually
like it had two things like ithad like a two season TV show and

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a seventies movie. Well, themovie came out like around the same time
as TV show, but the movie. They but they filmed it like it
was a nineteen seventies action film andit is over the freaking top and it
is amazing. I'm gonna I won'thave to look into that, like it's
on Max. It is like Iwill show you the uh the intro here

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a second okay, value Gray fromDanny Phantom, Yeah, who ended up
being a ghost hunter. Yeah.I don't know if you remember that.
Oh yeah, I remember that verywell because they're dating at the time.
Well, yeah, she like,yes, she was like a love interest
to Danny. I don't I don'tthink they were dating, but they were
like together, yeah, mister T. But that's like from the animated Yeah,

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from the animated mister T. Andit's just like it's like, well,
would you count mister T like asa like I wouldn't count, like
counting is like you know, forlike for cartoonis. But let's be honest,
he's just badass in general. Yes, agreed? Uh And Virgil Hawkins
slack shock. Yeah, there wasa Rylo Tubs. I don't know why

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we're putting from the Cleveland Yeah,from Theklilo Oscar Proud on now Oscar,
I will give this for all ofOscar's faults. He got screwed out in
life, but like man, atthe same time, he let's let's be
real. Oscar proud. You know, he's an inventor. He was the
Stu Pickles of a whole new generation. He truly was. He like he

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kept ideas, but he kept gettingscrewed over by different people. Like that's
how it happened. Yeah, andthen like when he finally makes it big
with the with actually okay, sosame thing. So like in Rock Rats
in Paris, Stu ends up likemaking the rep like and everything. Yeah,

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well like thanks to the reptar nobilemade like a gigantic reptile. Kay
you robots and like even the giantother enemies and stuff, and it gets
stolen by the villain and use thefight. Same thing that happened in in
Uh, like in the Proud Familymovie because George Washington Carver the Fifth or

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whatever stole the Proud Fan like theProud Snacks secret formula, so it would
uh, it would stabilize his hiscashew people. Yep. Uh Tricky Tricksy
Carter from American Dragon. Yeah,there was Monique from Kim Possible, Kim's
Best friend Pickles on this list ofcourse. Of course. Now, I

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actually just saw this the other dayagain, Joe Gardner from the movie Soul.
Have you seen the Pixar movie Soul? Yeah, fantastic, saying like
I saw people talk about it.I think it's fantastic, Like I saw
it like when it first came outin like you know, during the pandemic,
and I thought it was fantastic.I think people talk shit because it

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was the first one not in thetheaters. I think it would have done
well in theaters. Uh, there'sfat Albert. Hey, Hey, I
love fat Albert. Everybody loves FatAlbert. Might be a crime if you
don't. That's what says on here. And then you have storm from from
the nineties, from nineties X Menor present day x Men, all from

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that night. I still haven't seenNice. I don't watch it yet either.
I've heard nothing but great things.But let is let's go back to
Disney two thousand, not twenty thousand, Disney twenty thousand. We're going to

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the future. I mean, theJoke's Brothers only went to the year three
thousand. We don't know that farahead. Not Disney films. God,
there's so many, so many.Yeah, because at the same time they
had Mirrormax, Dimension Films. Giveme TV shows. I still can't believe

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that Phoeas and Ferb was two thousandand seven. Okay, Disney's two thousand
shows. Here, let's see you, uh, let's see Kim Possible.
That's so raven Lizzie McGuire, SweetLife of Zach and Cody, even Stevens.
Didn't see a lock of even Stevens. A lot of the live action
TV shows I never really watched.I watched, like maybe the most I

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probably watched was like Sweet Life aZach and Cody because that was like somewhat
interesting, Proud Family, Fill theFuture, Wizards of Waverley Place, Veneas
and Ferb, Sunny with a Chance, Sweet Life of on Deck, Oh
the buzz on Maggie remember that show? Barely okay? That like the premise

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of it was it was basically thislike cute little like it was nothing but
a bunch of fly people trying tolive their lives and like and Maggie went
to high school and kind of thatwhole feel it was. Okay. Jonas
was two thousand and nine, sookay, and The Heartbeat don't even remember
Leelan Stitch, David the Barbarian shortyou make short shorts. I remember that

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one vaguely, Hannah Montana, Lifeon Well, Life with Derek, A
good chunk of these shows where ohthere was Zeke and Luther mm hmm,
that's in tarzan As the Bell Rings. Don't remember that one. Yeah,
there's a lot of them. Andjust like you do you remember Super Robot
Monkey Team hyper Force goes. Yes, I do remember Super Robot Monkey Team

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Hyperforce. Never watched it, butI remember it. That's because like when
it comes to Jay that was soa good chunk of those shows did come
on during it was why Disney solike at saying, anybody who has listened

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to like me and Heath on fifteenminutes in Hell, we have gone over
this many many times. We probablywent over it during like a past episode
of of Cartoonami. But like thethe history of TV channels around here,
because like for the longest time whenit came to Saturday Morning, like in
the evolutions of it, because forChannel eleven here was Fox Fox Kid,

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you had Fox Kids, then itwent to Fox Box, then it went
to four Kids, and then diedyep, and then we had WB,
then we had Kids WB, andthen Kids WB was around a little bit
longer until round I want to sayKids w B lasted up until two thousand

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and thirteen. Maybe I didn't watchit showed up on twenty thirteen, but
then it well, it ended upbecoming four Kids, but still would play
a lot of like Dragon ball Zand all that stuff, like because it
ended up taking because four Kids endedup taking Fox eleven and Kids WB spots

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gotcha. But then you had theuh, you had the the odd channels,
like uh like TBS. Then youhad the kind of like ABC Family.
It was Fox Family first and ABCFamily then Disney Family, and that's
where we ended up getting like justkind of like the odd weird animes and
stuff. Yeah, and like kindof like the kind of like the d

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the deck Out like d C.Like that's where we got like Mummies Alive,
Monster Rancher, Flint, the timeDetective Cholock comes in the twenty seconds
to your freeth That was good too. Oh. I love Shock Combs in
twenty second century. That's one ofthe things that shown forever, oh,
which I periodically rewatch it on YouTube. That was a good show. Oh,

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I love it. Before I getsidetracked. I'm like, I'm gonna
get sidetracked. And have you seenCharlock Hound. No. It was a
kind of a gibbliesque like show basedon Sherlock Holmes, but all the people
are dogs. It's very well done. It's like an anime series and it's

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all free on YouTube, like becauselike the first episode, like I just
like watched it, like because theydid a marathon of it and it is
very well done. Actually, Iwill play the opening to it, so
Surelock it is very yeah, yeah, because if I'm not mistaken, it

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was like it was one of theearly things from ghibli Oh. It was
directed by Io and Hockey. That'sthat's cool. Now this is a terrible

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one. Hold on, let methat's the English intro. Let me find
the good intro, the US intro. It was evidently co created by Italians
and the Japanese. It was verywell done intro Let me see your Little

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scissors and it only aired for twentysix episodes. It really fits like with
the with the aesthetic and the like. The one downfall to it is the

(33:27):
guy who plays like Moriarty isn't idiots. He's like, that's he's like snidey
whiplash and like Dick dastardly when itcomes to his villainy. It makes me
sad. And the the the copsare just your stereotypical like idiot morons.

(33:52):
Like other than that, it isa fantastic show. Like I fell in
love with it. Hey, youcan see all the inspiration of like from

(34:21):
Mizaki in it. M I'd neverheard of that before though, Like it

(34:42):
comes similar because Jim Henson ended updoing something similar, but it was a
it was with like a kind oflike a mystery dog, but he was
more of a detective like kind ofa kind of a New York Street detective.
Fair. Okay, let's see whatwe're so. One thing I found

(35:05):
out when we were looking up Brandona mister Whiskers and the Barbaria I'm so
sorry for other than you is oneguy. His name is Howie Parkins.
Okay, Okay, did the timinglike timing director, Yeah, for all
those shows from the early two thousandsand and I brought up his director list.

(35:30):
Yeah. He directed every episode ofthe Emperor's New School. Okay.
He directed every episode of Dave theBarbarian, every episode of Lloyd and Space
and all of Recess, and nowI understand why they were all great because
also like, like so the normalformula when we do cartoon, when like

(35:52):
cartoon amy is done, like wechoose a whatever cartoon we choose, we
like we talk about like what weremember from the show, episodes we enjoy.
Then we talk about the cast likeof like who like who played who,
what other works have they done,and just talk about like you know,
the show in general, and justlike a little bit like phenomenal,

(36:13):
like just little trivia things of it. That's normally how the formula is done.
So because like that, there's apoint like shoot, when me and
Heath talk about Futurama, which spansmultiple episodes and in different podcasts because we
are obsessed with Futurama. But forlet's see Randy and mister Whiskers. Oh

(36:46):
yeah, Charles Adler, mister Whiskers, Yeah, phenomenal. Uh, Like
are you aware who Charles Adler is? I do not know, so you
will like for me, I likeI know him because like he is a
huge part of our cartoon network drawyears. He was cal and Chicken Yup

(37:08):
and the Red Guy. He was. I am weasel and I am weasel.
Yeah, basically he was every voiceactor in that, like in like
col and Chicken. Let's see whatelse was he in Because this is going
to be a very broad broad episode, we tried to keep it not broad.

(37:28):
Yeah, it just didn't work.That's my bad. God, there's
so much let's see here. Soit looks like his first role was in
My Little Pony Rescue of the MidnightCastle in nineteen eighty four, and he
played Spike and just like going upthrough him a lot of these, like

(37:51):
I'm aware of nineteen eighty five tonineteen eighty six, he was in Halk
Cogan's Rock and Wrestling as the voiceof Rowdy Roddy Piper. I could and
also brings up like other stuff likewhat year was that that was? You
just said it? Like especially likeback in those days, like every like

(38:15):
odd like celebrity got their own TVshow, like you got mister t had
his own TV show. You had, uh, Chuck Norris mm hmmm,
hul Cogan had his own TV show. It was like and each one was
more like the G I. Joeesque formula. Yep, yep, it's

(38:37):
accurate. That's very accurate. Hedid a lot of voices though, and
things that I do now, Ohyeah, that's the same. Like if
I'm not mistaken, No, hewasn't rock O, but he played was
Missus Bighead and ed Bighead from hewas an add Monsters. He was Yes,

(39:00):
he was indeedas Let's see here tellUs from the Crypt. He was
Smoky in an episode the Third Pig. He was Sarcastro and the Tick.

(39:25):
I'm like this, especially where I'ma huge superhero fans, I'm gonna say
this, I haven't seen a lotof the tick. Really yeah, I
like back in the day it wasgreat. Like I'm saying, like a
little bit I've seen of the Tick. I've enjoyed, but I haven't watched
a lot of it. He wason oh yeah cartoons, yeah, because

(39:46):
I was like he was said,because oh yeah cartoons. That's are you
aware of what o ya cartoons was? I've seen it, but I don't
know what, Okay, So likeit was basically like it was nickelode version
of what a cartoon of just likeyou know, let's spring like all these
new shows try to get him inbecause that's where a Venture Time showed up

(40:09):
and I can't remember what it was. I think he may been because what
a cartoon, like that's where caland Chicken got their start and oh yeah,
cartoons. I'm trying to think ofwhat he was. It's like like
I remember a good chunk of ohyeah, cartoons, but not a lot

(40:29):
of them because like it's may beenlike the Vampire and the Girl. This
is this is something we should talkabout at some point, not Necessarily's Night,
but at some point. The RonaldMcDonald the animated movies. Oh god,
that's the voice of Hamburglar. Yeah. Yeah, we gotta talk about

(40:53):
Grimmin's Island some point. Man,Come on, it's been so long since
UF you know what? Hold on? I'm curious are they on YouTube?
If not? He was c JanePepper an Pepper and Pepper and is she
cuz is she brave? Pepper andPepper? Man, I think so I

(41:15):
forgot as told by Ginger was evena thing. Yeah, that's yeah,
Nickelodeon. Yeah. Because also whatwe do, like for Katrinami, we
also to pick out like certain voiceactors and we just go through their whole
like biography of like what let let'sdo, like what's so and so done?
All this time? Because like meand hate have talked about doing a

(41:37):
mel Blanc episode and that's just gonnatake fucking for because yes, uh,
Ronald McDonald animated the complete series,all six videos. Let's see here,

(42:00):
Oh oh god, the Wacky Birthday, Have Have Time, Will Travel,
the Monster ow McDonald land Locke ScaredSilly. I remember that one. The
legend of Grimace Island. Grandma's lookshigh as it looks so high in this

(42:20):
seriously, just yes, yeah,that was back when McDonald's actually did a
lot of stuff like just to promoteOh I forgot one for Disney the uh
well it's still showed up around thattime, but the Mini Adventures of Winnie

(42:40):
the Pooh, because that was alsoaround the time when they were like where
you had to come up with agood intro and that's like the like and
that's like me and Heath were actuallytalking about there. Now it's a long
ago, but like cartoon intros area lost art m that like you do

(43:01):
not see him as it should becauselike that that's so you know what.
No, let's start with Dave theBarbarian because it is so iconic. Not
Dave the Diver. I want Barbarianbecause also like Daved Barbarian was an odd

(43:23):
show and it has a very selecthumor that like you just had to kind
of understand the humor to enjoy it, but also put it behind. It
always showed up at three freaking am. In the morning, Huge Fotto

(43:50):
will It's sisters Fain Kennedy was theprincess. Sim Yeah, so that thing,
the art of making cartoon intros arealmost non exist anymore. Like they

(44:12):
simplify it's to point to where likelike, if it didn't catch like cause
a lot of the TV shows ifyou can't if the intro did not catch
your guy, you didn't watch it. Yep, that's why like I Lost,
Like a lot of the nineties andearly two thousand songs had that rip
chord of just like look at PowerRangers, look at like Shoot, even
if it wasn't as even if itwasn't as popular, Big Bad Beetleborgs,

(44:37):
if you remember that One Bad Beetleborgs, and and one of like and one
of my favorite ones was I don'tknow if you remember the Big Guy and
Rusty. I do not. BigGuy and Rusty was actually done. I

(44:58):
got to hear somewhere m hmm,I think I may let Heath borrow it,
but I can't remember who. Uhcrap, who was the one who
wrote it? Frank Miller? Okay, yeah, it was Frank Miller's cartoon.

(45:22):
It was very fifty style like scifi, especially like with the like
with the the way the theme songis because dealing like with nuclear radiation is
like a power source. Because itis that, I would watch that.

(46:02):
It showed up around the same timeas Godzolla the animated series. You know
what you mean, the good continuationof the of the nineties movie. Yeah,
don't get me sorted on that one. I'll give the same rants animate
show good. Oh yeah, theshow is fantastic. The movie at least
gave us that right at the least. Well after that next by, yes,

(46:39):
it was fantastic. Well for I'llget on the Godzilla Rants. One
of my favorite episodes that it stillsticks with me. In Big Eye and
Rusting, there's a point to wherethey end up going through this timehole in
big Guy's suit, like the guywho operates my Big Eye and stuff ends
up getting thrown back to the revolutionaryday in the British find the Robots and

(47:01):
name him Giant Jack and use himto fight during the revolution and change his
time. So it's up to Rustyin the pilot to go fix the timeline,
get Big Guy back and fix thelike and save America. It was.

(47:22):
It was a two part episode andit was amazing. It's one of
my all time favorite episodes of likethat era. But no so for my
Kaiyju review for you rant the sothey released because originally the ninety eight guns
Al was supposed to be a trilogy, the first one like it was,

(47:45):
Okay, I love it. That'slike I love ninety eight like it is,
like is it good? Is itthe best? No? But I
love it like it's like it's alsothe very first Gud's Old movie I ever
saw in theaters. Yeah. Sothe sequel actually was supposed to be a
continuation where like the baby that hatchesgrows up and like and actually they fight

(48:06):
like a giant monster. There's twobabies. Since I canceled, they used
the like the plot from like themovie, the second movie and third movie
and turned him into the episodes thebeginning episodes of Godzilla series, so that
like the gods Ola, the seriesfirst few episodes were supposed to be the
trilogy. So that is how themovies would have gone in live action,

(48:30):
and I would have loved that.That's fair. Yeah, I think it
would have been fantastic. Yeah,probably because that series is fantastic, and
the guys who wrote the series actuallywere huge gods Al fans because it because
ah Emeric was not a big Godsalfan. He like, like, the

(48:57):
only reason that he picked it upwas because he loved doing Disastrum and he
saw this, this would be afun disaster movie. And he is not
wrong. It would have been agood disaster movie because that's what he's good.
He loves destroying shit. That's fair, that's fair. Honestly. Let's
see what else was there. Soit's been like going on anime. Have

(49:21):
you been watching anything as of late? Like anime anime wise? Not really,
to be honest, you need towatch Delicious and Dungeon. That's what
Clio watched. She says, good. I've seen like two episodes of it.
Oh it is. It's become mycomfort show. But it reminds me
of Food Wars mixed with Dungeons anddragons. It is like the the people
who like the girl who wrote itactually used to like was a huge fan

(49:44):
of dungeons and dragons and stuff andjust love cooking and just combined it and
like what makes it like you wouldn'texpect it the way it goes because like
it makes it pooks fun at dungeonsand dragons at the same time. I'm
just like, it puts logic todungeons to dragons. You can't do that.

(50:06):
There's a watching in D and D. I've just like, especially like
when it comes to Sinjy and Lios, the two main characters, like they
are apparently I am sinshy, Likeeverybody just looks at me, like Jess
looks at me. Hey, allof them just point out I said,
you're you're the fucking dwarf. You'rethe one who the cook one. Yes,

(50:27):
that's fair because there's points. Andit's like, I I know I'm
Sincy. I see too much ofmy monster loving self and it's stupidity in
Lios and it's just like you wantto believe you're Lios. I see myself
and Lios too much. It's likeyou guys haven't watched enough to believe it
yet. The uh grass down now. What what I've been what I've been

(50:50):
watching is kind of old stuff.I watched you Give You yet? Yeah.
I watch Pokemon Gold and Silver recently, Oh, good one, and
I watched which one were you upwhen You're on? Jojo Journey? Journey?
Okay, and I watched that wassuch a good art style, Joe
too. I agree, like Ilike it. Like that was around the

(51:13):
time when they were still doing likedrawn animation and they decided to go with
like hardcore brighton collar. I'll tellyou my favorite though animation style is still
going to be X and y beforethey sent him to the Sun and Moon
area Alola. Yeah, which isa massive downgrade from everything before. Oh

(51:35):
yeah, because like he was becauselike in X and Y, Ash actually
looked grown up. Yeah, helooked older, which I don't know if
you know this, but I dida deep dive into Pokemon, into Pokemon
oh God, to figure out agebecause I was confused why I was ten
years old all the time. Sowhen I was looking into it, I
found this thing where people mapped everydaynight cycle from every episode. Okay,

(52:01):
Okay, and yes there's a tonof episodes, but every Day night Cycle
only adds up to like three hundredand twenty five days. There's a whole

(52:21):
Pokemon series. Okay, yeah,Yeah, also kind of puts in the
question like how big is the Pokemonsackers. Exactly, it can't be that

(52:45):
huge because especially like because we'll shootif you remember, like if Aridian Forrest,
they were in there for for almosta week. Yeah, so it
just shows that they were just idiots. Yeah, I mean you should know
that by playing the games that theywere just idiots. This went off the
path trying to avoid those trainer battles, because let's be real, that's the

(53:10):
real first hurdle of the original Pokemongames, those three trainers in a road
right there and Viridian four. It, I didn't really have a lot of
problem with it. But also Iwent with like Charmander, I did not
I think Squirrel. Every time Iwas a fire I was a fire Starter.
There's only one game that I didnot choose a fire starter, and

(53:31):
that was Black and White because Idid not care for them. I did
not care for the Peaky, Idid not care for Tippic. I don't
like Teppiic or Sniffy. I loveSnoopy. I went with Sniffy. I
don't like Superior either, like theFinal Evolution. Yeah, superior. I
don't know, Like I just thoughthot take, well not really a hot

(53:54):
take. I think Black and Whiteone was all right, Black and White
two is phenomenal. Everyone wanted aremake of those games, but instead we're
getting Pokemon Legends in x and ysuniverse. Give it, Tome. I
don't think we need a remake ofBlack and White of any type, especially
after the remake we got of Diamondin Pearl the well, because do you

(54:16):
know who's in charge now of allof their remakes? Who the people that
made Diamond and Pearl. They werebought by game Freak to make remakes.
So sorry, Diamond and Pearl wasa good remake, but the problem was

(54:37):
it was too good of a remake. It was a remake straight to the
core. Like they went inch byin like like sendim by Cinema of an
O the remake because they made theremake to the t. It was one
to one. It was one toone and like and I'm sorry, but

(54:58):
they should have picked a better,the better version Platinum exactly, they should
won to one. They should havedone what Platinum did, but just tweak
the story a little bit and justgive you the I would have been Okay,
if they just did, if theyjust make a platinum, yeah,
that's why I wish they would havedone. I think my problem I understand.
I understand why they didn't. Atthe same time, it's I think

(55:21):
my problem with Diamond and Pearl theremake is the remake we got before that
was Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire.I not gonna lie, I was just
apart. I absolutely love those.I actually I take it. We got
before that was ev and Pikachu.Let's go, Yeah, let's go.

(55:43):
I actually I think those are good. I had fun with I think I
think the mechanics were just different enoughto keep me interested, and I wish
they would have continued on with it. I would have been okay with it.
Let's go serious, because like ifwe've got let's go Jo too,
or let's go hone or anything,I would be fine with it. I
would have been okay with it justand keep it going with Pokemon like Pokemon
Go. Yeah, keep that going, because let's be honest, Pokemon Go

(56:06):
isn't like it's slowly dying. Yeah, I mean, it doesn't help that
Niantic kind of ships the bed everytime they play out an update. But
like how they lifted everything that wasgood about the game from COVID. Yeah,
but yeah, so I was watchingPokemon Gold and Silver, uh Jojo
Journey, and then I also watchedthe third generation of Digimon recently my favorite

(56:32):
one. Oh Frontier, No theone before. I think, oh no,
no, no, no no,I used the card. I'm no,
I'm thinking Tamers. Yeah, that'sTamers Frontiers. The Tamers is the
one where Frontier is the fourth one. Yeah, with the with the spirits.
I actually finished Frontiers. Is actuallygood though, like I'm not gonna
pretty good. I enjoy it.I like Ghost Game. If I don't

(56:52):
know if you've seen that, Ihaven't finished Ghost Game, I'm not gonna
spoil it, well, go aheadfreak like the like I know how it
ends and stuff. But like thegood chunk i've seen of it, I'm
just behind on it. It's sobad. I love it, so dark.
It's like it's what the adult digimondshould have, ye fan, like
should want Have you played did youwant to Survive? Yet? I have

(57:12):
not beat it. It is.I love it, but at the same
time I hate it. I haveone problem with it. I like visual
novels. But it's too visual novel. I agree, Like it's good,
it is a good game. Oh, it's an amazing story, and yeah,
the story is awesome. I wishthey had a different way of telling
the story because I love the combatstyle. I love that type of game

(57:36):
though I like fire and bla mask. Oh yeah, I loved it.
But like, but I do agreewith you. I wish they would have
gone, you need to go outside, stupid, You go out, Chad.
Look at that face. That's stupidface. Gotta go shat stupid.
Okay, let's take you out.H mm hmm. Wow. For me,

(58:35):
I was I'm always more of aPokemon. I mean, Didgemont a
person over Pokemon? That's ay.I played every Pokemon I've seen, like
almost every episode of Pokemon up touh half of X and Y. But
like I one hundred percent Didjamon.Digitmon is always gonna be better than Pokemon.

(59:00):
To me, I love did Youmond? The Yeah for Survive, I
agree with you. There should havebeen like a little better presentation on the
too much reading, Like I understand, like yeah, like it's a big
visual novel, but at the sametime, it's just like, at least

(59:22):
help me out with the reading orjust like make it a little bit more
entertaining instead of just like your basicactual visual novel of just like even like
I haven't played Doky Dooky Lyricric Clubor anything like that because I don't play
a lot of visual novels because myattention span doesn't allow me to do it.
But like with that one, Ifelt like it needed to be a

(59:45):
little bit more engaging to the peopleand instead of just like staying stills,
like give us a little more Iwas. I think the reason I was
so disappointed by the story presentation wasbecause I had just finish Cyber Sleuth and
Hackers Memory Hacker's Memory. Yeah,and those games are by far like top

(01:00:08):
tier. Oh yeah, like digitmonstory is fantastic, and I feel like
survived kind of shot in the foot, Like the story is good, but
there's not enough there to keep meentertained. Why I was going through the
story. Yeah, it's like someof the fights were actually pretty difficult,
like like I've I found some ofthem challenging, but I loved it,

(01:00:29):
especially like where you had to splitoff into different timelines and stuff like that.
I thought it was fantastic. Butyeah, for going from like,
Okay, so because you got likeyou got the two main series, you
got Digitmon Stories, and then yougot Digimon World. Yeah, and Digitan
Survives not part of either one,I don't think. No, it's its
own thing, and they're doing asequel, which I'm excited for. But

(01:00:51):
at the same time, I'm like, please improve. That's that's gonna be
one of those games that I probablybuy just so they know that people want
Digimon games. Yes, but notbecause I personally want to play it.
Yeah, because like I've like I'vebought Cyber Sleuth like on a whim,
because like I never played a lotof Digitmont Sloth's so I know it's so
good. Did you ever play theDigimont story games ones? I never did?

(01:01:12):
Should like I got I got theMoon one so good. I have
like a lot of grinding, butthat's so good. Yeah, Like the
little bit I've played of it sofar, I've enjoyed. I'd say I
was kind of disappointed in did YoumonWorld Next Order also though I've I haven't
beat it yet, but also Igot like a hunt, I got a
ship ton of hours into it.I think, I think my main reason

(01:01:32):
I'm disappointed in it though, isI want more Digimon games like did Jumon
Story and that's not like Digimon Story? Yeah, because I'd say because I
went from because I picked up NextOrder like after finishing Cyber Sleuth, because
like for me, I never playedDan Ditchitmon games like until like, well
I had the Digitmon racing game forthe Game Boy Advance arena. I didn't

(01:01:55):
have them. I didn't have alot. I played it with friends and
stuff, but I never played thebest you want the best Super Smash Clone
right there it is, I know, Okay, it's so good. I
never had any of the Digitmon games, and like I had some chances to
buy, but I never did them. I get that, so like it

(01:02:19):
wasn't until like I picked up CyberSloth and then I ended up getting the
new Digitmon like Didjitmon Rise, andit was completely different. I'm just like,
what is this took me forever toget the hang of it, like
because there was a point like Ihad to take a year away from it

(01:02:39):
then come back and like start whippingits butts because like because I was trying
to figure out, Okay, howdo I evolve these things? Why they
keep dying? Because I wasn't usedto that, because we didn't get that
with cyber Sloth. No, that'slike next Order was a Digimon World game.
Yeah. I don't know if youever played Digital World. Gave never

(01:03:00):
played, So Did You Want WorldThree was very different. It felt more
like Cyber Sleuth esque, but stillhad some of that Did You Want World?
Yeah. First two Didumon World gameswere hardcore, like they were hard
Yeah, I am. You hadto keep things alive or they would die,
just like with the Little Tomagotchie DidYou Want Toys? It was rough

(01:03:22):
and so I played those as kid. As kid, you know, I
didn't necessarily want to go back tothat style. Did you Want Game?
Yeah, it's like it seemed likebecause from like a friend of mine who's
played all of them, like saidthat price was a lot easier compared to
the the old ones. Yeah.But then like but after going through like

(01:03:45):
cyber Slut, the stories and allthat, I know this I want.
This is why I want I wantDid you want RPG? Like this?
Why did you One of the reasonsI think Didjimon World or Did You Want
Story? Cyber Sleuth and Packer's memorywas so good part of it. The
main reason it was as good asit was and why it was dark and
stuff is one of the main directorsand creators for that game was Persona.

(01:04:09):
Yeah, the guy that helped withthe Persona series like schie Mcgonmat'tinse and Persona
and all those like he That's whythe art style is so similar in that
I never played Persona, so likeI have five, like I tried to
play I tried to play five,but like I haven't, didn't get far

(01:04:29):
into all of those games. I'mtelling you five. I think three and
five are the best, but theyboth take a little three. Three is
which one is that one that's theone with the gold version. It's the
one that they just remade Persona threereloaded Okay, gold version I believe is

(01:04:50):
the fourth one. Okay, becauselike like the little bit i've seen a,
Persona is from what two best friendsplay, Gotcha? So like from
Matt and Pat and all them.So, but Persona is if you so,
Persona is just part of a ofa bigger series. Yeah, I'm

(01:05:11):
sure you know that. Yeah,it's a spin off of shin mcgammy Tinse.
Yeah. The first Persona game wasactually called him mcgomma Tinse Persona.
Yeah, and the second one wasShy Persona. It's a direct I do
have. I do have like thethird and new one of Shinagami. I
haven't played the fifth one, thenewest one. I want to. I

(01:05:35):
just haven't picked it up ha time, but it's I love that series.
They also Soul Hackers is also partof it, and Devil Summoner. Do
I have it? I don't know, but anyways though it's they're great games.

(01:06:01):
Good job, great games, greatgames, highly suggest I actually just
got I have that still. Lookall of did you see the the releasing
all the I did? Did yousee it's not coming to Xbox, which
is weird to me. I justwant to give me a remake of three.

(01:06:23):
Dang it. Three was good.We're talking about Marvarus cat Have column
is great. Yeah. I wentto a like Final Boss Con here not
so long ago and ended up gettinglike Smokeish Runs Smoke Wish Run two two
Masters. I almost watched that theother day on watching I was tempted to.

(01:06:44):
It was like, do I reallywant to go down this rabbit hole?
Watching watching it? I watched thatshow in so long let's see Big
Winswers was great, and it seemsgenerations crashed back. I saw some of

(01:07:15):
the blade action over there. Igot like the I got the first Sino
Blade for the Wei and the otherone if you want a good one.
I don't know if you ever playedastral Chain. I'm not. It's not
Platinum. Oh, then of courseit's good. I don't have to ask.
Yeah, you know, I justrealized about that. I didn't realize
that Platinum Games was originally the peoplethat made then. Yeah, I didn't

(01:07:40):
do that. Yeah. Yeah.With Clover one ended up happening. They
ended up going under because of thegames didn't do great. But like,
wasn't it god Hand that ended upputting them down? I think Godhand was
a great game. Just so you'reaware out of their play, haven't,
but I've seen it. It's greatgame. It's beautifully done. I'd say

(01:08:02):
the one thing like with Clover Games, they are all beautifully well done.
Soon but it made so much senseseeing what games Clover Games made as to
what Vitam Games is now like watchingthem make knowing that they made beautiful Joe

(01:08:27):
and seeing Beanetta or the wonderful onehundred and so like a wonderful one.
Brah, Listen, I can tellI now get it totally the same people.
So okay, so we they onlydid three games. They did Beautiful
Joe and Beautiful Joe two. Theydid Hot Hot Beautiful Joe, Double Trouble,

(01:08:50):
and I don't remember hundred. Iremember Double Trouble came over here in
two thousand and five. I donot remember this one. They did Okami,
and they did God Hand in twothousand and six, and then they
ended up going under then let's seehere. Okay. That's because right now

(01:09:14):
Okami is the only one that reallygets like the love anymore from Clover.
Yep. I know there's always beentalks about there's always been a fight to
try to get like to try toget like Beautiful Joe back, because I
think Beautiful Joe would do pretty wellnowadays. I think it would be a

(01:09:34):
perfect switch game. I agree,because they did a sequel to Okami called
Okami Don Yeah, which is whatwas that on that was for the set
DS. That's what I thought.It was very well done and I enjoyed
it like it was very fun,kind of like a it was like a
Zelda like lesson Zelda inspiration by itesand it was by a like Hidiki Kiyama.

(01:09:58):
Okay, I know the guy thatwas like the director of all the
games from Clover was the one thatleft him made Platinum. Uh I Also,
I don't know if you know this, he was a big part of
resu Evil for Platinum. Wizer Nothe guy the director, Oh, okay,
of all those games. Let's seehere, So let's see what games.

(01:10:18):
Since we're just we're just balancing allover the place, let's see what
Let's see what else. How didwe get to this point? What were
we talking about? We were talkingabout TV shows, then we jumped on
U E O. Then we justtalked Don Digimon, and then he went
to the video games, and thenwe started talking about Capcom. Then I

(01:10:39):
was looking for what I had,Then you saw Marvelous cap Maybe I'm not
a great co host. I knowthis makes it fun as long as I
say, like just for like randomepisodes, this is always fun just to
see where it goes, Like likeif you've listened to any of the Kaiji
review my my co host Kevin doesthe exact same thing, same with like

(01:11:00):
unless we're doing the specific like podcastlike for like del tour Quest or like
Star Trek or anything like that.Now, if we just do random ones,
it just goes all over the placeand it's fun. That's fair.
Like, unless we have like aspecific topic, it's just like, okay,
we've got the topic, we stickto the topic. Fair. So

(01:11:24):
for Platinum, they started with MadWorld for the Wii. Oh do you
remember Mad World? I remember it? It was black and white. Yeah.
Whenever you killed someone, blood splattered, and that was the only calling.
God. That game is so goodand needs a remake. I don't
know why Platinum hasn't done it.Sorry, it was great. And then
you had Beanetta and this was twothousand and nine. Yeah, then you

(01:11:45):
had Vanquish. That game is greatalso, I never played it. You
like third person shooters, yeah,you like fast based third person shooters.
That game is literally you keep going, you don't slow down, you have
to keep going. Then you hadAnarchy Rains, which was the spiritual successor
to the Mad World. Yep,Anarchy Rains is good. Mil Gear Rising

(01:12:05):
Revengeance, which apparently there's a rumorthat they may be making a sequel to
that, which I hope you didyou play that one? Oh? I
loved it Alexander Armstrongest, Sanator Armstrongest, one of the greatest villains of all
time. Like that gave us sogood, so much fun. I actually
got actually the over there in thecorner. I see, yeah, yeah,

(01:12:29):
I have the Sword Edition one.Yeah, the Collector's Edition that back
when they actually did collector's edition.Hey they do for some games. I'm
really sad I don't have the moneyfor it because most time collection editions are
now made by limited run games.Let's be real, limited run games.
Is dude a Allen Wait two Collector'sEdition. I I'm like, son of
a bitch. It comes with theclicker, like like the lamp that he

(01:12:53):
carries clicker. I'm like, Ineed it for me. It's the Horizon
games. I feel that because Iwanted the thunder Jaw and the Giant Mammoth.
Should you see the announcement for thenew Horizon game, the Lego leg
I can't wait. I'm just tellingyou right now, PlayStations a bunch of

(01:13:14):
bullshit xboxes like Half Grounded, Halften Cimate, half Sea of Thieves have
High Fi Rush, and then Sony'slike Nintendo have Lego Horizon. What I'm
okay with this what Horizons like oneof my all time favorite series. Also,

(01:13:34):
we had the wonderful one on onewhich is just like it's so weird.
Did you play for the WIU ordid you I played the U and
the make for the Switch. Iplayed both. Yeah, it's very beautiful
Joe esque, and I don't knowwhy I didn't realize if it was the
same people, Like the characters arejust so much fun. Uh, you

(01:13:55):
had Banda what they did Legend ofKora. Don't play that one? It
did. Everyone had high hopes forthat. Legend of Core game Garbage not
as bad as Avatar Last Day aBitter Burning Earth, but Garbage. Then
another one that didn't do well butit was really fun to play was Transformers
Devastation. It was good. I'ma little biased. Raven's Transformers games were

(01:14:23):
better the War for Cybertron. Ohyeah, like those were better, but
for this one, like this one, it's not bad. I really do
like it. Like it was alittle bit more difficult, but also like
I enjoyed it because like I gotit for free for the PlayStation too.
Yeah, and it was just Ijust thought it was fun, especially for
like the zero like for Gen one, where it's just straight Gen one Transformers

(01:14:45):
like I like that game. Donot get me wrong. I like that
game. Playing this like, it'sjust I'm still salty because I went from
this dark and gritty and then yeah, Straight was dark because it was in
it was before they came to Earth. Those two games were oh yeah,
and the Not only was the storyin both great, they looked fantastic.

(01:15:08):
Multiplayer was like, I'm sorry,there's no other Transformers game that has multiplayer
where you turn into a motherfucking truckram someone and in the middle of ramming
transform and attack with the sword andit looks like it did in the movies
and the cartoons. And that gamewas just I never got the plan,
but a friend everything about it wasso good. Now I'm hoping, so

(01:15:33):
you know, Xbox owns Activision.Now, yeah, Activision was a publisher
for those because they owned Raven.Raven are the people that help work on
war Zone. I'm hoping Xbox willsee that those did really well, because
they did they did super well.I hope Xbox ss that they did well
and renews the license to reput themout because those games are fucking amazing,

(01:16:00):
Like, yeah, I can't They'regreat, so good, They're great.
So then we had eight bit Bayonetta. Yeah, I remember that, never
played it. Twenty sixteen that's whenwe had Starfux Zero and Starfucks Guard.
They did the Star Fucks game.Yes, I don't know that. Yeah,
did you play Zero? I playedsome of it, not all of

(01:16:21):
it. The little bit I playedI loved. But the problem was the
control. Yes, there was toomuch going on. The WU also wasn't
known to be a great console forgames. They everyone wanted to try to
innovate with the games. I'm notsaying that's bad. Sometimes you don't have
to. I think that like anotherbig problem because Nintendo didn't branch out at

(01:16:45):
third parties like for me, likethe games I have, like for the
like because my WU is very severetime because really the only games I had
for a Smash Brothers, Poking,Wonderful One one Zombie You, which Mario
Maker give me Soft do what theywere doing Zombie You. I'm telling you

(01:17:09):
this though. It annoys me thatwhen they poured Zombie You to PlayStation PC
and Xbox, they got rid ofthat multiplayer feature. I don't know if
you ever played the multiplayer on theWIU. It was great. One person
had a normal controller or the weekoh yeah, and the other person used
the screen to spawn enemies in yeah, and the player playing had to do

(01:17:30):
objectives. Well, this person triedto kill them, and that to me
was super fun. They could haveimplemented if Dead by Daylight can work,
that game type that game could bewould have been. I think it would
have been fantastic, Like on anyconsole that could have worked. You could
have added additional people, not justone person as a player also, but
like they just took it out.Then we had the Head Ninja Turtles game

(01:17:56):
even some Manhattan. That one wasgood. I don't know if you ever
played it. I never did,so I don't expect like great great,
but it was. It was agood one. It was a good mike
and also with Nincha Charles, Iexpect it wasn't good A decent multiplayer.
Yeah. Then you had Near Automata. Of all the Near games, I
don't know if you played the otherones. I haven't played the other one.

(01:18:16):
I played a little bit of AutomataAstral Chain, which is amazing,
by the way, like actual Chainis. Like I I was addicted that
game for a good while. Itwas it was innovative, it was weird,
it was fun. Characters were reallylike lovable, Like there's Laughy,

(01:18:40):
the the police dog, and youwill just fall in love with Laughing because
the girl who like actually is insidethe police South. Hold on, I
just I just got to show youbecause the thing is, it looks just
like Jess, and I was like, you need to cosplay this for me,
my god astral chain mm hmmm.Lappy Yeah yeah, yeah, there's

(01:19:13):
Lappy and the girl who uh playsthere was Marie and it makes me sad.

(01:19:36):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's Jess. Yeah yeah, just cute,
adorable. Let's see here. Thenyou had the wonderful one on one remastered

(01:20:00):
World of Demons, which I neverplayed and that was never heard of.
That that wasn't that was an OSgame, oh Android, Uh Soul Cresta,
which was a scrolling vertical scrolling shooter. I guess shoot up. Yeah,
I was just shooting. Yeah,it was just shoot up. That's

(01:20:20):
weird. But okay. The lasttime one of those was made, like
one of like the one that fromthe series. It was the fifth and
final entry that came from like agame that was on Sega Saturn from like
ninety seven. Holy shit, okay, uh Babylon Fall. That sounds familiar

(01:20:42):
action role playing. It was anaction role playing hack and slash. Let
me actually look into this one.It was PS four and PS five may
still be available. What's it calledBabylon Fall? Babylon's Fall. I'm from
Mirre with it banded and you hadBayonetta origins serious one. It looks so

(01:21:04):
cute. It does It's completely notwhat you expect from Beaneta. It was
a prequel, so like the waywatching it, it looked like very similar
to I don't know if you've seenThe Liar Prince and like in the and
the Beast Princess. Yeah, veryreminiscent of that. Also, we've just

(01:21:29):
I've been on a bit of aKingdom Hearts kick as of late. Again,
Like I love king of Arts somuch because like, like me and
Jess were just my talking the lastseven she got the itch to play like
Birth by Sleep. Birth by Sleepis good. I ship Awqua with myself.

(01:21:49):
I'm saying Aqua is the best character. I mean, don't get me
wrong, I ship Tear with myselfalso. But that's the point here.
The point is we were actually talkingabout that here or the like, Yeah,
this game is so good because likewe were actually going through the list
of all of them, because likeI bought the cloud version for the Switch

(01:22:10):
yesterday. It's not super great.It's not. It's very like unless you
have a very it doesn't work verywell unless you have a very good Wi
Fi. And this is why theSwitch needed a Ethernet port in the dock.
I agree. But also, ifI'm being honest, it shouldn't have

(01:22:31):
been a cloud version. It shouldhave been a physical version. I agree,
I agree, But I did itbecause so I could play like the
old games. Yeah, but I'ssaying if I wanted to play like three
or the main games and stuff likeill like I got them all on PlayStation,
but I gave us more along theline, just so I could play
like, you know, if I'mat Jess's place, I could play like

(01:22:54):
birth by Sleep and stuff like.She's playing Awkward and I say like,
oh, you know what, I'llplay Awquesse. She gets mad at me
and says, no, you playfantas. You can't play Awkward. Same
with me, just like what likeI love AA. I was the best
one. I know. That's whyI'm playing here. You play something else.
Just just go play. Ah.No, she wanted me to play

(01:23:16):
birth by Sleep with her, SoI'm doing Terrorists. Just go play two
point eight. Two point eight isso good. The passage or whatever where
you play is Awa. Yeah,in the Kingdom part three, I got
it. It's so good. Ilove that. I mean it's only like
a two hour tective basically. Yeah, it's not. It wasn't worth the
money, but I paid the fullprice for that ship. How much was

(01:23:41):
it when that came out? Thatwas like almost like thirty forty bucks.
But it was good. Yeah,it was. It was fun. I'm
a big Kingom Hearts fan. Thequestion is how do you play Kingdom Hearts
the original? How do you playthem like in order? Well I have
like like I've played it like fromthe first one all the way to now.

(01:24:04):
But if I'm playing it in order, I always do breath I sleep
first, which yeah, technically chronologically, like I will either play the second
game. Yeah. Yeah. Likeyou're talking about Union and Cross. I
played Union Cross until it died onmy phone. Well I downloaded. Yeah,

(01:24:28):
did you play the sequel? I'venot played the sequel yet, so
it's still available on because actually Ijust downloaded like yesterday. That's the cool
thing about my tablet. Oh,it's that is because I actually just yeah,
so all the tray, like allthe videos are still there to watch,

(01:24:53):
but you can't play anything but theunscreen. So for Dark Road,
it's the origin story of Ericus andsant Orts. Yeah so, yes,
so's There's also a new game comingout for mobile, well which one.
It's an ar game like Pokemon Go. Everybody makes their own key Blade Warrior

(01:25:18):
uh okay and you and it's supposedI haven't personally tried it. I've just
read stuff about it. Supposedly it'slike a like the key Blade of War
kind of. Yeah, but youplay The way the game plays is more
like like you walk around you fightheartless and stuff. But when you get

(01:25:38):
into actual like fight fights, youcontrol your character kind of like in the
video games you have like a menuthat pops up and stuff like that.
I don't know, posedly, Idon't know. Like I said, I've
not played it. I think thatwould work better if like instead of just
doing it like you know, likecontrolling it like you would in the rest

(01:26:00):
or second one, I think itcould be better. It's an RPG style
turn base. I think that wouldhave worked a little better for it.
I mean, hell, even ifthey did Pokemon Go esque just tap the
screen, yeah, move on.That work. It doesn't have to be
super like intuitive, like not intuitive, but like super crazy like just it's

(01:26:23):
not console. It's a fun yeahequipped, Like here, just give yourself
like extra stats and stuff by doingquipped items and all that, doing missions
to do stuff. Yeah. Like, But the story is supposed to the
key blade work. Mm hmmm.I don't know about that. I'll try
it. It's currently in beta indifferent countries to see how well it works.

(01:26:45):
But I'll give it a shot whenit comes out. I'll give you
a tribe scenario that's At the sametime, I think they should keep the
key bad War mystery. If they'renot going to do a mystery, it
needs to be an mm like fineFantasy fourteen. I think that would actually
get a Kingdom hearts in them.What I'm about, well, I think

(01:27:08):
that would be freaking fantastic. I'mabout it if I'm not. If I'm
being honest, I wish it wouldhave done Keingdom watch Tevie show. They
got the rights to everything. Imean, I keep saying that I really
want more Coana to do a KingdomHeart set. They would do. Problem
is, technically Disney doesn't own therights to certain characters and Kingdom Hearts like

(01:27:31):
so yeah, because Disney doesn't ownthe rights to anything non Disney. Yeah,
so anything like Sora and all themlike anything, like they own everything
else, but they just everything Theydon't own Sora, Kyrie Reku, any
of the original like characters yea fromthat game that's all Square Square excents it.

(01:27:53):
Well, I think should happen becauseSquare Enix has they do the Final
Fancy Trading card game. They keeptrying to get Disney to allow them to
do Kingdom Hearts expansion for it.Well, I think should happen is Disney
should look at him and go,we've got Lorcana, you've got Final Fantasy.
Give us the King of Hearts charactersfor Lorcana and we'll give you Disney

(01:28:14):
characters for Final Fantasy set and justdo an even trade and pop them both
out. Its cow like you're moreinto TCG than like I like than I
am currently, Like, how isLorcana doing right now? I mean I
guess it's doing okay. I knowthat there's a lot of tournaments and stuff

(01:28:36):
being held. I don't know necessarilyabout in this area, but in general
there is. There's like forty twotournaments at gen Con this year already up
to be signed up for Damn,which is like three more than Magic.
If that says anything about the playerbase. It's Disney. Over half of
them are already sold out and theystill have a month and a half before

(01:29:00):
jin Kong. So like right now, like where did the like as?
Right now? I would say thebiggest like card games tren now are Magic,
Lorcana, Digitmond is apparently still doingpretty well. It is the Pokemon
piece, So from what I know, the biggest. You always will have
the Big three as the big three, and that's here at the bottom of

(01:29:24):
the three Pokemon, Magic and thenlor Kana, I don't know where it
is and the number wise as said, those three are always they never get
outsold by anyone else. Yeah,and they have a huge player base still.
Yeah, lor Kana is big andgrowing. One piece is good size.
I don't know if it's growing,to be honest, I know a

(01:29:45):
lot of people enjoy it, butI don't know how big it is.
Still relatively no yeah, did youmond? I know Digimon Grows has grown exponentially,
like there's so much so Yeah.Now, the one game that was

(01:30:05):
big and is starting to kind ofdie out a little because I believe they're
about to release a different card gamefor it that is slightly different for some
reason. Is dragon Ball No dragonBall Z again. Yeah, they had
the dragon Ball Z card game thathas been going for a while now.

(01:30:25):
Yeah, And if I'm not mistaken, which I might be because they changed
their eye to their plans all thetime. But I was told by one
of my friends that does play thedragon Ball card game that supposedly they were
basically just being like, oh,you can't use those cards anymore. We're
putting out new stuff, which Ihate when people do that. That's why

(01:30:46):
as much as I want to investin the new Star Wars trading card game,
I don't trust Fantasy Flight Games tosupport it for more than two years.
Yeah. Like I have four hundredStar Wars us to any cards at
my house with the dice included,and that was supported for two and a
half years. A lot of gameslike just don't they don't keep up with

(01:31:10):
Yeah, Like what what other TCGgames like Okay, if you remember back
like when Avatar, the First Avatarthe Last Airbender came out, Like around
that era, everything got a freakingcard game. Yes, there was a
card game for Avatar. I ownedit. Yeah, like yeah it was
Uh there was a card game forMega Man. I own that network.

(01:31:34):
Yeah card game. Yeah, Iremember. I owned the card game for
Teen Titans. Yeah. I ownedthe card game for Maple Story Online,
which is actually really fun. Justso you know. I owned the TCG
that was made by Wizards of theCoast but died out. Well, I
won't say died out. It stillhas like a die hard fan base,

(01:31:55):
but it doesn't grow the Harry PotterTCG, now for that one. I
had a good chunk of the HarryPotter cards, like the old stuff.
I have a full set of thethree sets. Like. I've played a
lot of trading card games. Oh, I know, remember Chaotic, Yes,

(01:32:16):
you remember when they actually made doorMaster cards. I used to play.
I still have a good chunk ofmy Doormasters. I never actually got
to play the game because no oneelse I knew would buy it, but
I had the cards. I hadthe cards, and I used to play
my cousin played. I mean fair, that makes sense. I always was
intrigued by it but never got toactually like I was a dark player.
That's fair. That's saying like Ilike I loved like the Demons, the

(01:32:42):
parasite Worms were my favorite ones.That's the same because like I stel Master's
was such a fun anime altogether andthe card game was simple and stuff.
Because like I was a little sadwhen it gone off, but then like
when it came back as kay Judo, I was like, what's this?
It's like because I was going throughlike looking at Kaiju Dou cards down at
the car job, and I waslike, what is it like that I

(01:33:04):
know this car? This isn't likeso and so this is this is this
is this, like this is thisis hard from like Dual Masters, and
they're just like yeah, like yeah, it's like the same same people.
It's like, what how dare they? I still haven't played I knew about
Kaijudo also never played it never.That's that's the same because like for me,

(01:33:25):
I thought Dual Masters was far superior, especially the TV show, because
like apparently like like Dual Masters isstill huge in Japan but not over here.
That's how it happens. That's whywe didn't get a lot of Digimon
stuff for the longest time. Wellwe still don't, honestly, Yeah,
because I'm saying Digimon is big inJapan, but like should yeah, but

(01:33:47):
it's like but also like the thewhat what's beating what what sucks about digimont
is that it is inconsistent when itcomes to its games. An't in consistent
when it comes to its anime likebecause like but also that's the cool story,
but you're not wrong. But alsolike I I found Digitimon like that

(01:34:10):
because I like I got Kyler,my kid, into digitmon now and she
loves watching Digitmon because like I foundDigimon a better story much like much better
like character development out of all ofit. It's like a little different,
like you see, like it's sayingbecause like I had to explain this to
jests about like why I love Digitmonover Pokemon. It's like Pokemon is you're

(01:34:36):
basically like they're they're your pets.They are like you use them. Digimon,
they are your friends, they arefamily, they are like your Digitmon
grows with you. It's like you'relike it's saying that it's like trying to
explain to her. It's like,like, that's that's just weird. I

(01:34:57):
said no. Digimon was like itwas more meaningful because you as you're like,
that's why in the in the laterseries they made it a point like,
don't get me wrong. The firsttwo series two so like Tie Matt,
t K Me Me, Joe,Izzy and Hyrie and Sora Sora,

(01:35:20):
thank you was great. Tamers twowith Davis t K. Kyle, don't
get me started on Davis. Thoseare great, as I wanna tell you
in a minute after this, that'sgreat, awesome. I love both of
those series. Okay, I thinkdamn that dog keep going. I think

(01:35:45):
three. Sorry he went to gethis dog. He'll be right back until
then. Did you want the beast? Okay, kids like a what do
you take to drink? What doyou have to drink? Well? I
got water and I got uh,I got uh Jamaican. You're happy?

(01:36:11):
The fuck is that? It's alittle it's a very light alcohol drink that's
very fruity, very sweet. Ithink you would enjoy it. I will
personally take water, okay, butI appreciate the offer. Thank you.
It's extremely light that you can't getdrunk. I mean, I can prove
anyone wrong. Oh God, Thursdaybitch, Okay, continue. So I

(01:37:04):
think that the third generation of Digimonand the fourth generation Frontiers did a much
better job of purveying how they arefamily. And the reason I say that
is because of the connection with thecharacters. If it wasn't for the connection,

(01:37:26):
they couldn't do the DNA did evolutions. Well, I agree with you
on that one, but the fourthone, uh, that's a little a
little different. I will convey withthe thing on family. Yeah, like
on that one, but like betweenthe Bond of Digitmon, that like to
be fair for there was no Digitmonpartners. It was. It was basically
Digitmon power Rangers. It's fine,they're magical girls. H You're not wrong.

(01:37:50):
It was Digitmon magical girls, didyou not? So? I don't
know if you ever looked into Frontierjust like googled it and read like Reddit
threads or anything about it. No, nothing red right, don't do it.
People think it's real weird. Therewas magical girls transformations in did you
Bond? Yeah, I personally hadno issue with it, still have no

(01:38:10):
issue with it. I thought itwas fantastic, but also a lot of
people think the fact that they endup naked it's weird. Yeah, they
don't really like they don't show anything, but they don't shy away from the
fact that they're naked. But itreally throws people off. And I'm like,
when I was kid, I didn'teven think about that. We just
watched it. I was like whatever, I never did think about it.

(01:38:32):
Like, granted I came from thesame as you. Yeah, we're close
enough to the same age. Couldyou graduate what twenty eleven? I graduated
twenty eleven in high school, Soyou're two years older than me. So
yeah, we're very too. I'llbe thirty two next month. There,
I'll be thirty one, a yearolder, yeah, thirty one in November.
Yeah, so but so like feelbetter. I never thought about it.

(01:39:05):
When I was a kid, wenever did, you know. We
were just happy to have something towatch. Yeah, but we came from
the generation where we watched a dragonBall on TV and it showed little Goku's
dick and we didn't think about it. Yeah, Like we were just like,
well, we're watching Tuchi muyoh andall that. Just yeah, like
like to me, it didn't evenit didn't we grew up. We grew

(01:39:27):
up in the golden age of wifefos. You're right. I'm not saying
you're wrong. Were we grew uplike during the reruns of the fifties,
sixties and old bugs bunny stuff.So we like that's saying like every time,
like when money opera singer gets meevery time. Yeah, Like because
also like going on like gett alittle political here, like transgender and transsexual

(01:39:51):
and all that stuffs bunny, Yeahwhat we're talking about. Yeah, it's
just like to be fair like agood like when it comes to cross dressing
and all that stuff we were soused to because I don't know why they
think about so much now. Yeah, because like dealing with the yeah Bugs,
Bunny, Daffy Duck and all ofthem. It was part of the
style. Not not even that likethose came back all the way in the

(01:40:12):
twenty action movies that happened then,like Missus, doubt Fire, Yeah,
like no one thought anything about thatJohn Travolta and Hairspray. Yeah, no
one said anything about that, youknow what I mean. But also like
you can think about it and alsotalking like even like to talking to like
the older generation gays and stuff likecartoons and dragon all stuff. It wasn't
that bad. But then when yougo to actual drag shows, if they

(01:40:33):
saw a kid in there, it'slike, no, you're in the wrong
place. Go this is adult entertainment. Yeah, I agreed, And to
be honest, I personally just likeI know you aren't. Yeah, I'm
perfectly fine if people want to dragshows, what do they want. I'm
fine with drag queens. We wentto the Columbus Pride. How was it

(01:40:57):
the eighth That's when we went,so we we didn't get to the main
one. The main one was thefourteenth, which I wish we would have
gone. Chapel Rone was there anyway, So point being, we went to
the one that they're just trying tostart on Gay Street, which is funny
to me. That's called Gay Streetand that's where they did Pride, so
it's hilarious. Yeah, it wasdowntown Pride, and I think they had

(01:41:18):
like sixty some thousand people. Itwas the first year Columbus. It was
the first year they had had thisone. The other one is huge.
I can't remember exactly where it's at, but it's like three hundred plus thousand
people. This one was like eightythousand total throughout the day, of course,
not like all at once, butthroughout the day, which there was
a ton of people there. Butwe saw drag show and you could tell.

(01:41:42):
I could tell. I've granted threes. I could tell because one of
the performers I had seen do theirchapel roone dance and hand out pizza and
stuff on TikTok at a club andit was much more risky okay, as
opposed to in the street for prideokay in the middle of the day.
So I know that they're thinking,there's kids involved, there's kids here,

(01:42:05):
we can't be one hundred percent whatwe want to do here. I think
they have a very good understanding ofthings are what was okay to do it
for kids? But also like backthen, you know, everything wasn't pushed
on it as it is now,Like there's no there was no like true
like agenda no because like well notreally an agenda, an agenda, well

(01:42:30):
like more along the line, likethere wasn't like a no propaganda. I
guess what was what would you say, like not agenda, not propaganda,
but like there wasn't like a realpushed to anything. Because also but like
for our generation, it was likemore, we accepted more of everything because
we were introduced to everything. Yeah, we were in I wouldn't say we

(01:42:51):
were going to do slowly. Itwas just just kind of thrown with us.
Yeah, I wouldn't even say,like I shouldn't even say thrown.
Throne had to me has a negationof connotation and aspects like this because like
cartoons, I never felt like anythingwas thrown at me when I was watching.
It was just that character did this. That was That's great. Great

(01:43:13):
part of the show's been like himand powerful. Obviously nowadays as an adult,
I knew what him was. Idid not when I was a kid.
It was a drag queen, butalso like like you didn't care like,
yeah he looked like we didn't careabout how like how him dressed or
something. Yeah he dresses a littleweird. But at the same time him

(01:43:34):
was like this powerful over like exactlystrong force nature demon like he Him is
a great I feel is even thoughthey made him the villain, I think
him was a great representation. Okay, not the villain portion, let me
that, but also proud of whathe was and he had fun with it

(01:43:59):
exactly another great, like we're talkinganime for here for a second, bond
Clay from one piece, yes,like mister three, yeah, now mister
two, like oh come away,oh come away, it's for me,
like like for me, I'm likeI don't do drag or anything like that

(01:44:21):
or own that, but I meanthanks, but I have a more appreciation
like because like even for like moreof just like the trans transgender, transsexual
community, all stuff was perfect,like when introduced to bond Clay, and
that was good representation even of thespeech, like it doesn't matter if I'm
man, It doesn't matter if I'mone woman. I am who I am

(01:44:44):
and that's my Let me be real. I love my brother in law.
Me and him don't see I dieon a lot of things because he has
a specific view of hout things shouldwork, a specific world view offout things
should same thing with my little brother. Yeah, so me and my brother
in law, we will agree onthis on this one thing because I feel

(01:45:08):
like the way cartoons did it backin the day and shows and things was
transgender and gaze. I said gaysand that sounded very wrong. But like
the LGBTQ plus community in old things, yes, there wasn't a lot of
representation, but for the representation thatthere was, it was seemed very natural,

(01:45:30):
Like it wasn't just in there tobe in there, because I feel
like there are some some things thatthey just throw it in there because they're
like, well, we have tokeep up with the times, so we
got put that in there. Oh. It's like also for like like even
for the time for Bugs Bunny andthem. Yeah, like a lot of
people, Like I don't think alot of people realize the reason like they

(01:45:51):
had Bugs Bunny and Drag and allthat stuff not because back then women weren't
allowed to play, and so theyhad to get men to play the roles
and stuff. And that's why likeBucks Bunny would always do like you know,
all these different characters, except atthe same time, like bugs Bunny
is, if I'm being honest,like Bugs bugs Bunny is like the main

(01:46:14):
go to when it comes to likeLG TPQ or however you say it.
There's too many letters for me,and I'm my my stupidity will not allow
me. Some people call it thealphabet army, not in a jesting way,
yeah, And I can tell youthat's not in a jesting way.
As a bisexual man that way.Yeah, you know, like okay,

(01:46:35):
so for me, we're gonna geta little bit in of my sexual history
here. I'm sorry for everybody wholistens because we are almost like two hours
into this, so this would bea good episode. Like for me,
I have been with one transgender personone time, male going into female and

(01:46:55):
saying still like still through most ofthe change, but still has their ramparts
and stuff. One time it happenslike yeah, it's just a great Tom
kind of freaked my friend, likemy friend Sam and Heath out because like
my friend Sam is bisexual, dn'tsee it coming. My friend he is
straight and vanilla as can be.It's like yeah, because when I told

(01:47:16):
them people there was like like whenlike I said, well I just got
down, well like I just fuckingtransgender person. They immediately called me like
on a three way call, saidyou did once. It's just like because
out of nowhere, because like everybodywho knows me, like knows I am
the biggest slut. Yeah, andit's saying a little risky on on this

(01:47:38):
episode Tunami but a cartoonmy, butthere's a point too. But yeah,
it was Yeah, so it likeit was like, and they'd like ask
questions and everything else. It's justlike, it's just like, so,
are you bisexual? Are you?Like what? What are you? Just
like, I don't know. I'mme. I don't really know. I

(01:47:59):
don't I really feel like I needto label myself because if I'm being honest,
I don't know what I am.I mean. At the same time,
though, technically, okay, theymight have had mel gin italia because
I feel like we can label itthat way and not be offensive or anything.
But me, they can have melginitellia. But if they are transgender,
they are female. Yeah, yeah, you're still straight. Yeah you

(01:48:21):
know, you know what I'm saying. Like that, I understand. I
feel like if they I feel like, if you treat it differently than it's
kind of which that person will probablynever yeah, like may not ever listen
to this. Yeah you know whatI mean. But that's always they do.
It's saying that's why we don't namenames. If they do and they're

(01:48:41):
like, oh yeah, that wasme, at some point, I feel
like it's kind of discrediting them.Oh yeah I'm bisexual when they are not.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's like well like she was
bisexual and stuff, but also withit, it's like, I enjoyed it,
it's fun, I do it again. That's what matters in the end.

(01:49:03):
To me at least, that's whatmatters. But uh, what were
you saying before that? We werestill on digit on. Oh well,
first, me and my brother inlaw agreed that if things are shown naturally,
like there's a there's a here,the like basically just shown that people
in the LGBTQ I A plus communityis in the world. But it's not

(01:49:29):
just like, oh, we're throwingthese characters in because we need that representation,
because that's what let's be honest,Disney did that. ABC did that,
which is Disney. Also Fox didthat. Like everyone did that for
no reason for a while. Didit makes sense now now if they just
would have been like, oh,yeah, this person's gay. Okay.

(01:49:50):
One good example for that, onewhich caught me off guard was the you
remember Voltron on Netflix? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, pitts yeah yeah,
pitch like yeah, Like for thelongest time I thought it was like
a guy and then not know whereit's just like, oh no, I'm
a girl. Yeah okay, yeah, okay, yeahpt it yeah, I

(01:50:11):
think. I think A good exampleof what my brother in law was saying,
okay is Doctor Stranger's multiverse madness whenyou find out that the girls with
them I can't remember the name ofa mecas Fez. Yeah, she has
two moms. Yeah, and it'sjust it's there. It's part of her
story. But they're not like justthrown in, you know what I mean.

(01:50:34):
It's just it shows the moms.It's no like for comic book readers,
it's known of that world they producethe sexually basically. Yeah, but
point being showing it in the moviedidn't force it down your throat or anything.
It was just these are her parents. And then it moved on,
like it wasn't here, here's alittle background, let's move on. Yeah,

(01:50:54):
it wasn't. Like I feel likethere is a big difference, and
I'm one hundred percent ally like,I'm also bisexual, so I'm like one
hundred percent like you do you youever though they don't see you as a
yeah, even though they don't seeme as part of it. I've had
the same My friend Sam has hadthe exact same conversation. It's like,

(01:51:15):
yeah, he's a supporter, butthe whole time. It's just like they
just it's like yep, yeah,like they just jump on for being bisexuals,
Like what are it? Because likefor me, I make the I
love Sam. I know you're notgonna listen to this because you are terrible
at what you do. I loveyou to death, fuck you skin through

(01:51:35):
and just hear that part. Ifhe does, he knows when it comes
from love. So like for thelike, right now, he's dating a
guy, so like me, it'slike mostly just me because like I love
funking with him. I'm just like, so, so you're gay right now,
So no my bisexual, but you'rewith a guy. You're currently gay
until you've become single. Then you'rebisexual until you decide to either date a

(01:51:58):
girl or another guy. Then thefunny thing was that bugs Bunny saying that
to me into that I knew it'sour gotcha. It's just like he was
on a bitch on Derry. That'sgreat. But like because also like Sam's

(01:52:18):
boyfriend James has the biggest fucking crushon me, and I love to tease
the ship out of I mean Iwill just go like like if like I'm
on if Sam's at home and I'mon the phone. He has me on
speaker. I will just talk toher James, just to mess with him.

(01:52:42):
That's great because the funny thing is, like he like and I'll just
talk dirty to him. And thefunny thing is there's nothing you can do
about it, but makes him somad. He doesn't is it Like it's
like talk dirty to me more daddyis and say you're like and like so
like and saying like has given mepermission. They both give me mission,
like to actually just like, yeah, you've been a dirty just like,

(01:53:09):
oh my god. Just that justrows him up and he loves it.
That's funny. But back to digimon Yeah, because we're getting way off
to forgot this one. Like Isaid, maybe I'm not the best.
Oh no, no, it's stillfun just for these random episodes. Come

(01:53:29):
back next week where we talk aboutthe comparison Kangaroo Jack and kinggaroo Jack.
Good Day us Ah, that wouldbe a fun one. Well that one,
well that one to another to alitter up to an idea episode because
I remember Good Day us A.I love I love both of them.
They're both horrible in their own way. We just need we just need dude,

(01:53:54):
like we may do an episode ofjust like Cartoons from Around the World
and all that thing that's the stuffman hid Poppy, Like, well,
do the moment you think I'm actuallya lot, you think I can actually
talk Charlie? Wait, take up? What year was kangaroo I was in

(01:54:20):
elementary school. I think, ohmy god, what year was Kangaroo Jack?
Because Good Day USA didn't come outtill year thousand and three and Kangaroo
Jacket the USA came out thousand four. Yeah, a few years afterwards,
because I remember seeing it on CartoonNetwork during the thing. What's annoying to

(01:54:44):
me is they completely changed all ofthe actors, none of the original actors.
Boys, people. Well, Icould say that, especially when it
came to like they weren't making enoughfor like animated, especially back then animation
back in like nineties or two thousands, you didn't make a lot. You
didn't make a lot, but youwere able to survive then. Still Yeah,

(01:55:08):
But at the same time, isit really I'm gonna throw this out
here as like a random thing.Was it surviving? Like was it worth
surviving if you were constantly in therecording studio back back back, back back,
back, back, back back,because like, let's be real,
the guy that different Stimpy did likesix shows all across the same span of

(01:55:29):
use. Oh you mean, uhcrap, Billy West. Yeah, and
the guy that did count Chicken alsowas in the same was in a bunch
of different shows back to back,you know what I mean? So,
like was it worth it? Obviouslyto them it was. They wouldn't have
kept doing. Yeah, it waswhat they wanted to. Billy West is
seventy two years old. But butyou see what I'm saying, at least

(01:55:53):
I hope you see what I'm saying. Yeah, I know what you're saying.
It's it just seems like a lotto me, it is, And
I don't think that they were paidappropriately. Agree Well, just like even
voice actor, even voice like inthat saying like I agree with it.
Voice actors do not get the lovethat they deserve. No like it,

(01:56:17):
like and that's saying like especially likewhen they go to the conventions and stuff.
I understand why their ship's always sofreaking price. Yeah, they don't
make enough. Like I know theymake money. Yeah, like Tara Strong,
for instance, wouldn't live in thenice ass house that she lives there
she didn't make enough money voicing CarlyQuinn and all the other characters that she's
voicing. Bubbles was well, likeshe's voiced a lot well her anything that

(01:56:44):
Lauren Faust is a part of.Tara Strong is right there beside her.
And then there's the lady that voiceTommy Pickles that can't remember the name of
right now, isn't it that alsodid Jim and Neutron Tommy Pickles voice actor?
It was eg Daily, that,yes, her Daily, but yeah,

(01:57:04):
she did. I believe it was. She was also in uh Rick
Simon, let's see here high stickspoker player. What what? Okay,
here's one for you. So justlooking up like EG Daily, Elizabeth Daily,

(01:57:26):
So I guess she was married toRick Salomon. Okay, so I
just looked at ups like like whowas she married to? And uh so
the divorce was in two thousand.So. Rick Salomon is a high stakes
poker player, best known for histwo thousand and four sex tape with Paris
Hilton. He's also high He alsohad high profile marriages to eg Daily,

(01:57:57):
Sharon Doughtary, and Pamela Anderson.As poker player, he won two point
eight million dollars three point million dollarsin twenty sixteen and two point eight eighty
four million in twenty eighteen. Okay, so yeah, so he's like he's
married three high end celaritties and justplaying poker. So here's a here's a

(01:58:23):
cool thing about eg Daily. Yeah, just talk because we're talking about voice
actors at this point, you knowwhat I mean. So eg Daily,
do you remember the movie The LittleRascals. Yeah, you know Froggy.
Oh that was her. Yeah,the little kid couldn't make that voice,
so they had her dub it.Okay, yep, Yeah, let's see

(01:58:44):
which one was Froggy. Okay,okay, let's see. Let's see it.
Yeah, she was Tommy Pickele.She was Babe and Pig in the
Babe Pig in the City. Let'ssee. Yeah, and she's done lost
stuff. She was Buttercup. Yeah. In the Powerpuff Girls. Yep,

(01:59:05):
yeah, see, she was RubyTabooty and Chocshon. Yeah. I got
old Rudy Tabooty. Interesting, they'redoing a herald in the Purple Cranky I
did, and it looks real strange. It does give me a chalk zone.
I'm probably gonna see it, butit is chalk zone. Honestly,

(01:59:27):
the last the last thing that shereally did of like anything wise was the
Emoji movie. Yep, yep,we all talk about that. She was
Alexander Xantos and angry voices in Gargoyles. That's the animation. Wise, she's
still she still does like she stilldoes Tommy Pickles's voice for rug Rats the

(01:59:54):
new remake, which isn't great bythe way, I haven't seen it.
Everything she did. She did rawHide in Long Gone Gulch, which is
adorable. Truth to tell, Ihaven't seen that one. Have you seen
Kit Cosmic yet? I have not. It is fantastic on It is of

(02:00:15):
course Craig McCracken. It is definitelyCraig McCracken. Okay, you knew Craig
McCracken is right. Yeah, PowerpuffGirls a Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends and
all that. Like him and agood old Tarakowsky work together on it.
Okay. There was like, sokid Cosmic has one like you will hate
the main character, Okay, likehe is Kid Cosmic is like's this He's

(02:00:43):
this kid who's a big like comicnerd wants to be a superhero, fins
the stones and gains of super superpowers. Well, so he wants to form
the superhero group. But all hehas is this random like girl who like
and they live out in the middleof nowhere, like I mean Bumfudge nowhere,
in the middle of the desert,and they all hang out at this

(02:01:05):
restaurant at all times. You havelike this girl who does teleportation. She
works there with her mother. Youhave this little girl who has the power
of gigant, like of becoming agiant. She's this cute little Mexican girl
and she's adorable. She's hilarious.You've got this cat, his pet cat

(02:01:28):
who can see the future. Andthen you got the best character, Papa
Ge. Okay, Papa Ge isthe like he is the multiplying old man.
He can and he is. Youwill recognize the meme. Okay,
I've heard that theme sound. I'veseen some of this. You've like the

(02:02:00):
meme of it. It's just likewhen Me and My schizophrenia. Yeah,
but no, I've seen some ofthe show, not a lot, like
they need two episodes, three episodes. Yeah, it's on Netflix. Yeah,
but I've seen some of the show. Clea watch it. Yeah,
this is one of my theme songs. When I'm breaking down order at work.

(02:02:32):
Yeah. So it's just just himtalking to himself, just him having
a blast, and he's like he'slike, you know, just the wise
man of the TV show. Buteverything he does is just like you want
to like support him and you understandwhere he's coming from, and you just

(02:02:53):
want to punch the kid half thetime for not listening to Papa Gen And
what ticks me off because this iswhat this is, like, this scene
is what got me into the showbecause of the because of the music.

(02:03:15):
Not part of the song, notpart of the show at all. This
was just the trailer, and itmade me so mad. It's like,
where is this scene? And Iwatched all three seasons of this show.
None of it appeared. This doesnot appear in the show at all.
And that was so mad. Yeahthat, like Papa Jen is the kid's

(02:03:44):
grandpa. Yeah, Papa. SoI just found out by looking at eg
Daily that she voiced Jessica Drew SlashSpider Woman and Ultimate Alliance Too Game by

(02:04:10):
the way, MultiMate Alliance, butshe was also have you played Doom or
Doom Eternal? I have not,Well, I played I played most of
Doom and I have not played youknow, the UAC facility voice, like
the girl voice that talks to you. That's cool. I know, I
didn't. I don't wonder. Ithought that was Tommy Pick. I'm skiddy,
like Tommy, what are you doinghere? This is hell? Have

(02:04:31):
you seen the trailer for the newDoom game? Looks amazing. It's a
prequel to Doom twenty sixteen. Yeah, and it looks so good. Well,
but like the question, like myquestion is like, did we go
back in time to a medieval time? Yes? Yes? So has the
Doom Guy been around since the MiddleAges? Or I mean he's in hell
in this one. I had alwaysin hell in a turno, you know,

(02:04:55):
maybe who knows. So it's justbasically just turned doom. Doom Guy
is like Doom Guy evil dead.Yep. Now another another thing. Tear
strong voice is one of my favoritehi, one of my favorite video game

(02:05:15):
characters ever, the pop Chain song, the Lollipop Chains, And they're doing
a remake of that a it comesout in July. I think what's annoying
is it's not a remake anymore.It's a remastered. It's a good game.
It is. They called it RePOPthere's two versions that in the same
game. There's the one where ithas all the blood and stuff from the
original, but there's a no onecalled RePOP where every time blood spliders it

(02:05:36):
sends out like hearts and stuff andstuff. I've seen that one and I'm
I wanted a full remake. That'swhat they said they were going to do
originally, but for some reason fansdecided, fuck you, we just want
a remaster. And I'm like,no, we wanted to remake, remake,

(02:06:02):
but no, we're getting a remaster. I'll still buy it. Oh
yeah, I'm still I love thelipop Chainsaw can't wait to get the achievement
again for accidentally looking up to Yeah, looking up for sure. And there
was like one I don't know ifyou remember, uh, Naughty Bear.
I love Naughty Bear. I wouldlove to get a remake of Do you

(02:06:26):
know what that game company makes?Now? What they're the people that became
Behavior Interactive, the people that makeDead by Daylight makes sense? Do you
know what they did recently? Theyput the bear in there. They put
Naughty Bear as a trapper skin,but he got his own like it's legit.
Naughty Bear with the British narrator andwhenever you do the more, he'll

(02:06:48):
be like, oh, naughty caughtyou. You've been really bad, and
you just murder him like Naughty Bearwhen you trap him the trap and then
you hit him with the massed andit makes stuffing come out instead of blood.
And I was like, man,if y'all would do I think they
did, I am so sorry withone if they I think they did it

(02:07:10):
to kind of like gauge interest inNaughty Bear, because that was like one
of their first games, wasn't it. Yeah, they made like three games
in total before becoming Behavior Interactive.I think it was like three. They
had a different name even, didyou know that? I'm sure you did

(02:07:31):
that. Do you know who wrotethe script for Flypop Chakesaw It's been for
I know, I know who,I like, I'm aware of who did
it, but I cannot remember theirname. It's James Gunn. Yes.
Yeah. Do you know what whowrote the wrote the music for that game?

(02:07:58):
The lead singer of Mindless Self Indulgence. Do you remember that band?
Yes? Five o five games.Let's see here, let's see what was
it published by? H What areyou looking for? No? Like I'm

(02:08:20):
in a artificial mind and interactive.Okay, there we go the publisher.
Let's see here. They did TheGrinch, they did Bugs, Bunny and
Tazz, Timebusters. God, that'san old one, Smurf Fracing, Monsters,
Ink Screen Team ice Age. Theymade the game Wet Wet Wet.

(02:08:48):
Do you remember this case? Itwas like it was a third person shooter
and it reminds me for some reason. I know it's not I know it's
not like directly him or whatever,but it reminds me of Quint Tarantino film.

(02:09:13):
It's like Grindhouse. Okay, Soso here we go like from behavior
interaction. Now this like is we'reshowing our age on this one going through
this list. So like two thousandand the so here's like this is back
when every movie had a game.Yeah. So they got like Carmen san
Diego, The Secrets of the StolenStolen Drums, Home on the Range,

(02:09:41):
Kim Possible two, Dragon's Demise,Scaler, Get on the Mic, Lizzie
McGuire two, Scooby Dooing Mask,Kim Possible three, Team Possible. I
don't remember that one. Oh,Revenge of the Monkey Fist, that's what
it was. Uh, that's soRaven two Chicken, Little teen Titans,
At and Nettie The Misadventures, Uhkim possible, Communicate Communicator? Uh teen

(02:10:09):
Titans again? How Monster House,Aunt, Bully Sweet Life and Zack and
cody'sh tipped and Caper tipped in TroubleTeen Titans two kim possible, what's the
switch? Happy Feet? Kimp possible, Global Gemini, Drake and Josh and

(02:10:30):
Can't Enchanted? High School Musical,Spider Man Friend and Foe. Which one
was that one? That's a goodone? Uh Power Rangers, Super Legends.
Okay that was around the time ofNinja Storm, Mummy, Tomb of
the Dragon, Emperor Mercy, HighSchool Musical two Iron Man from the first

(02:10:56):
movie. You know what I justrealized. So then making all those movie
games, just think, just thinkfor two seconds. Okay they made all
of those movie games to then breakaway, stop being artificial and become behavior
and make one of the biggest bestselling horror asymmetric multiplayer games ever made.

(02:11:18):
Oh yeah, nothing has beat it, nothing has taken it out of the
spot. Their games that I thinkare better, like I think probably the
Thirteenth before it was destroyed because ofcopyright stuff was amazing. Yeah, okay,
the new Texas Chainsaw game is amazing, but it doesn't have it's just
Texas Chainsaw. It's not multiple franchises. But now, now knowing that they

(02:11:39):
made all those movie games, Inow understand how they have all these connections
to get the licensed characters. Okay, so it keeps on going. Yeah,
Kung Fu Panda Legendary Warriors for theweek. I imagine him as a
killer and dead by Lord of theRings Conquests. Oh do you remember that
game? I do not. Itwas our worst battle. It was for

(02:12:03):
the DS. Yeah, I thinkthat was the port for the DS.
But never never let me. Letme search it real quick. I want
to make sure it's the crack ofone. But go ahead. So we
had my Sims racing back. Whenmy Sims was like, when what's the
thing seen it? I say,Dawn of the Dinosaurs, Indiana Jones and

(02:12:28):
the King's Staff, Staff of Kings. Okay remember that game? No?
It was good. Okay. Sothen after that we get into two thousand
and late two thousand and nine,and that's when they started making their own
stuff. That's when we got shortsuh tetris. What was two thousand and

(02:12:50):
nine. I believe what was twothousand, two thousand and nine. Then
we get Dante's Inferno. They madeDante's Inferno published that one, didn't they
aea published it, So it wastwenty ten when they kind of broke out
on their selves. Dante's Inferno wasa good, underrated game right there.
Yes, it just played off ofthe God of War, God of War

(02:13:15):
and yeah, but Slash but god, it was such a good game,
fantastic anime. Two. Yeah,then you had a Revenge of Wounded Dragons.
Not heard of that one either,so not won't even give me a
link, Naughty Bear twenty ten.And then the last game that they did
was Ultra Mini Golf Adventures and nowtheir Behavior So then as Behavior Interactive,

(02:13:43):
they did Let's See Your Monkey Quest, Ghostbuster Sanction and of Slime. Oh,
they did Sanction of Slime. Yeah. Have you played that? It's
the top down one that came outafter the good Ghostbusters game. Okay,
vaguely, I I so it's good. I'm not saying it's bad. It

(02:14:07):
is a good game. Yeah,not what I expected the play after playing
the third person shooter Ghostbusters game,but great either way. Okay, so
then we then they did Rango twentyeleven, Transformers of the Dark Moon,
Okay, wipe out Ouvin the Chipmunks. So we're kind of regressed back to

(02:14:28):
video games for a while. Itprobably happened, or I know what happened.
They didn't make a lot of moneyoff of Naughty Bear or off of
what those are like classics. Youknow how expensive a copy of Naughty Bear
is Now it's pass to find,and that's why it's expensive. And what
is kind of the same way.Yeah, but I have a feeling what
happened, or I can tell youthis is almost arms what happened. Those

(02:14:50):
games didn't sell well, and theyknew if they cranked out a bunch of
movie tie in games again, theywould make money back up to make something.
Yeah. So because then we geta Chipmunk, Alvin, Chipmunks,
Chipwrecked, Victorious, Voltron Defender ofthe Universe, which, if I'm not
mistaken, that was not that bad. Brave the video game. Brave the

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video game is great. Hell,I haven't played it. It's on PS
three and Xbox three sixty. It'sgreat. It is a great game.
Really. Yeah, that was aroundthe time where movie tying games weren't awful.
Like, do you remember the ToyStory three video game? No play
it literally the best Movie Titan gameof all times. Really it is more

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of a sneak around and all that, or No is a platformer, okay,
but it's like it's like old schoolcollectith on platform like zo okay.
And then you had this world calledthe Toy Box where you findus challenges and
then built up the Toy Box.I remember the Toy Box and no,
I remember. It's been forever,but I do remember that that game.

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I'm still mad because I got ridof my three sixty. I'm one achievement
away from that game. But toget that achievement now I have to restart
and play all the funck way throughit again again. And I played that
game for like thirty seven hours ormore. So. Then we had an
Ice Age, Continental Drift, wipeOut three, Naughty Bear Picnic and Paradise.

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Yeah, do you remember that one? It was an Xbox Slash PlayStation
Network exclusive. It didn't come outon disc, but it was. It
was not a Bear on an Islandokay, fakely Monster's University after Earth uh
Dorito's Crash Course two. I didn'tknow. They made De Rio's Crash Course.

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Crash Course. Have you ever playedthose? Oh? I did not
know? They were free on thethree sixty. They were a tie in
and they were easy to get achievements. Crash Course though, is like,
you know the TV should wipe out. Yeah, it's that, but you
plays your little Xbox Avatar. Ohso it's so bad, but it's so
good. It was so fun.They did Disney Planes. They did the
Pacific Rim Mobile game. Okay,the Pacific Rim Mobile Game is actually not

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half bad, not great, notbad. They did Phoeneas and fur Quest
for Cool Stuff. Okay. Theydid SpongeBob, Square Parants, Plankton's Revenge,
Zoo, Tycoon, Middle Earth,Shadow of mordor what they do on
that one? They weren't the fullpeople. Monolith made the majority of it.

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Uh. I guess the help Iwonder if they were support studio.
It's a good possibility. It saidlike titles, so it's I guess they
were helping out with it. Whichwould it still explain how they're able to
get all the horror movie characters theydid. They would still be tied to
like Ward Brothers Profield Golf. Theydid SpongeBob hero Pants. Mm hmm,

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home Booth Bop. That's the didFailele shelter. Then they got sued by
Bethesda. Really they made so youknow the show Westworld. Yeah, they
made an app for Warner Brothers ofWestworld that was basically Fall Children. Okay,
Hey beth as they got mad atthem, Okay, The Peanuts movie

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Snoopy's Grand Adventure, Dead by Daylight, World Hammer four thousand, Ford Garden.
Remember with that one Game of ThronesBeyond the Wall hooked on you Dead
by Dead Light Dating sim Yep,yep, it's great. It's fucking great.

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I'm scared. It's not that bad. Meet Your Maker? Have you
played Meet Your Maker? So it'scompletely rant. It's a multiplayer looter shooter.
Yeah still, but it's completely ranoff of player made maps. That's
cool. Came out with like sixteenor seventeen. They're dungeons essentially made by

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the creators, made by behavior.But then it was also released with a
complete like Bill your Own Dungeon Maker. Then there's Soundhill Ascension and I guess
what the fog is? One thatthat is a that one's already out.
I got it for free, littleplug right there. It's like five bucks.

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Should pick it up, play itthe fall. It is a roguelike
to play a roguelike, and itis great. It takes place in the
Dead by day by Dead By Daylightuniverse. You play as four of the
original killers were not killers, heroeslike survivors. Yeah, and it's just
a ruguelike. It's real cute,see compared to it's good. It's good.

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It's like, I think it's likefive dollars. Now, if you
got it when they did the eightyear anniversary thing, if you had an
account with them, you could justsign in and claim it for free,
but that was for a certain amountof time. Of course, they're also
making a game with super Massive youknow who that is. Have you played
until Dawn? Yes? Super Massive? Okay. They also do the Dark

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Pictures anthology. Okay, But they'remaking a game called The Casting a frank
Stone, which is one of theirstyle of games. But it's one of
the Dead by Daylight characters that it'stelling this backstory of. And we don't
know yet if it's a Killer thatthey're telling the backstory of or a survivor
okay, or but well we alsogot like the new on Until Dawn coming
out. Yes, the remaster orthe remake. I mean it's a remake

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of the first. It looks completelydifferent. It doesn't look like a remake,
but it does. It's Until Donone. Okay. They even had
the people that were going to bea sequel. No, have you played
The Quarry yet? So it's thefuck? So what they do? They

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have a team that makes games likeTill Down, and they made Until Don
and The Quarry, okay, bothof which are really good games. The
Quarry annoys me for one reason.It's multiplayer's jack shit because they made Until

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Dawn and then they made all thisprogress with the Dark Pictures anthology. I
hate you. Where the multiplayer is. The multiplayer is co op, okay,
and it's while one person's playing thischaracter, this person's playing this character
doing something else. I feel likeyou catch it, okay. And the

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way it works. The way itworks is while you're while you're playing your
character and making decisions, your friendis playing a different character playing making decisions,
either somewhere else in the game orthe character that's with you. Until
Don was not like that. Theirco op was you all sat together.
You watch it like a movie,you, et cetera. You all made

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decisions together of what happened, okay, or you passed the controller around.
The quarry went back to Until Dawn, even though it's after four other games
that they made. Yeah, that'snot the kind of co op I wanted
from the Quarry. I wanted DarkPicture anthology co op. Yeah, because
why would you change it? Youknow what I mean? Especially because the
game is set up that you cando Dark Picture anthology, Because like the

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very beginning of the game, yougive all these people at this cabin and
then you have these people over hereat another set of cabins. Why the
fuck don't you just have one personcontrol these people because it's the same amount
of time. You spend the sameamount of time in both places. Yeah,
why isn't this group this person justplayed this group of people, and
this person played these three people likeyou wanted the Dark Picture games. Yeah,

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and they didn't do that the wholegames like that where they're split up
in somebody. So why make itlike Until Dawn? Yeah? Yes,
it makes the game go buy alittle bit faster technically, but still still
it's dumb to me. This iswhy I was gonna shave real quick.
Okay, this is the Lord theRings Conquest. It's literally Star Wars Battlefront.

(02:23:18):
But lowther Rings looks pretty good.Yeah, it was good. This
was for the DS. No,this isn't the D version. Oh okay,
this is. It was on PlayStationand Xbox also, Oh okay,
but the DS version played the same. It didn't look the same, but
it played the same. This I'mnot gonna lie that. I think,

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like what they need to do,like they need to do a Dynasty Warriors
with Lord of the Rings. Iget behind that. Like I've all said
the same time, I've been ona Hybrid Warriors kick as of like Hyral
Warriors is good. I'm like,I'm going the original one at the age
of Yeah, yeah, I knowwhat you're talking about. Midna, like

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in her Twiley form, is byfar the most op character there, just
because she has such a wide likethis is this is how they did it
for the DS. It's still thesame type of thing. It's just top
down. Yeah, but it stilldoesn't look awful for a DS game.
It looks pretty good and it playsreally good for a DS game, Like

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it literally ends up just being ofcourse less things on screen. And stuff,
but it ends up being just likethe same fighting TYPEVIL. You get
into a group of enemies and attackand slash like once it actually gets into
combat. Yeah so but yeah,like it's not It was a good game.

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It didn't get the recognition and neededbecause the actual version was made by
the pandemic people that made Battlefront oneand two. It was Lord of the
Rings, so it didn't get itdidn't get the love, which I mean
a lot of Lord of the Ringsstuff doesn't look Golm was awful though,

(02:25:11):
I okay, so hot take.I enjoyed Golm. It's terrible. I
agree for what it like For aPS five game, it was absolutely all.
I'm out of playing PlayStation one orPlayStation two games at this point.
I don't need to go back tothem, so like but like for me,

(02:25:35):
if I'll limit, it felt likeI was playing a PS two game,
but I like, I love theconcept of it. Like, I
think that company needs to stop makinggames and they should get their licenses pooled.
They also made the new King Konggame, I know, and that
game is trash. I know.I'm sorry. There's a cut scene where

(02:25:56):
it turns from why like then movingto the fucking die there as a jpeg.
So actually the funny thing is onkaw'd you review, I made my
I made my co host Kevin playit played maybe like an hour and a
half of it. It's so bad. It is terrible. It's such why

(02:26:20):
I torranted it. Because I readthe reviews. I was like, I
don't know if I want to paymoney for that. I paid. I
paid full price for it, butjust like I torrented them also to be
honest, I bottom like, Idon't want to support that developer, Like
I I did it because I loveCalm, because that the thing with Call

(02:26:46):
of Skull Island, it's actually basedoff of this. So the guy who
did it named Joe DeVito, heis like he is kind of like the
running for all King Kong Entertainment rightnow, and he is fantastic because like
he writes it all, he doesthe art for it, and he like

(02:27:11):
he does fantastic job. Like there'seven points he did it crossover with Tarzan.
He has done a crossover with OhScanner and he did a with a
crap uh the bron Hero Bronze Hero, help me out here, Doc Savage.

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Oh yeah, yeah, he dida crossover doc Savage and it was
phenomenal tissue my page marker. Yeah, like because the story's fantastic and you
actually get he does more history onSkull Island more than anything, because that

(02:27:54):
was the big reason why I wantedto do it, because I was more
like I love to explore Skull becauseyou don't get a lot of like that,
and like especially why I wanted tobe an archaeologist growing up. That
was one of the I want tosee. I want to see more Skoll
Island. That's why I loved aboutlike Peter Jackson's King Kong, That's why
I loved about all of it.I want to I want to be in
Skull Island. But yeah, likeI played like maybe like ten minutes of

(02:28:18):
this game, and just like thishad so much potential. You could tell
that same company made Walking Dead Dusties, And the bad part was, like
talking to the interviews with the peoplewho created they wanted to put love and
heart into that game, into calngbut they weren't allowed to. They had
to do the bare minimum, andthey wanted to do so much more with

(02:28:41):
it because it had it like ithad the like potential to be a huge
game and Gollum for what it's worthas kind of like a sneak around game.
I had fun with it, likejust like doing the sneaking versions almost
like because stealth is one of myfavorite like game genres. I had fun

(02:29:01):
with it, like I legit,like enjoyed sneaking around everybody having to like
like sneak and do metal gear withGolm. I had it blast with it.
But at the same time, Iwas expecting when I bought it,
I was expecting, you know,like this takes place between like like you
know, him getting captured, inhim escaping and going up all the way

(02:29:24):
to where like you know, upas far as you know his version of
like taking the ringdom Mount Doom,you see him die, not like five
levels of just like where like halfthe game is just bullshit. But when
you finally got to like you know, the big open areas, they were
challenging. The controls were of painin the ass because the camera worked.

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But other than that, no,it was like recently, it was like
a decently fun game like to whatit was, in my opinion, terrible
as it was, I still enjoyedplaying it. Sophie, you have a
dumb face. She does, doesn'tshe she's my dog because she's my stupid

(02:30:09):
She takes too much after me.Definitely, look at that. Do you
see that? Yeah? Too muchafter you. Yeah, she takes too
much after me. Yeah. Shemakes faces, makes noises, ump slakes.
I'm a bad influence on her.She's the most affectionate, loving dog

(02:30:31):
ever. She just wants She lovesthe people. She's Gomer Pyle. She
likes people. But I say,we're reaching our mark about two and a
half hours and this, Oh yeah, time flies, doesn't it. That's
that's like the big thing, Likewhat it was so therapeutic on these episodes,

(02:30:52):
because like time flies when you're havinga phone on these and this is
one of the biggest reasons I dothem. But yeah, it's like this
is just like a random episode likelike just to kind of get you a
feel of what it is. Butnow like once you kind of think of
what cartoons you actually want to talkabout, that's when we go, like
we'll watch a few episodes. Likeat some points we'll watch an episode and

(02:31:13):
try to reminisce of like I rememberthis the art style, who did the
voices, some production notes on it, and just talk about the TV show
in general. So like this islike a like a big briad of like
trying to introduce you to everybody.So I feel like if that was the
goal, then random okay. Yeah, so I'd say like, but also

(02:31:37):
like it's all okay to get likerandom, like have a random episode just
talk about everything in general. Soas a random feel this has been very
very fun long one. Yeah,this has been the longest episode I've done
for this that one at least.So that will be it for this one.
So we will talk to everybody later. Thank you for listening to this

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