Villains of the 80s

We got side tracked so here's an episode about villains

Episode Transcript

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Mom, Mom, So more ThunderCats, under cats. Where did we leave
off? You were you were goingon about the the villains. You were
crap, the Luna tacks, thelunatic, Yes, the lunatics, and

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you don't remember them vaguely. SoI would say, like, the let's
see her, because we had theleader. There was Princess Luna. Yeah,
and her mom had been defeated byMamorana I think. And she was

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Queen Luna and she was normal.Oh, there was Luna. Then Queen
Luna. Queen Luna is her mother. Yeah, quin Now Queen Luna looks
very like uh saying like legit lookslike a straight up demon and like and

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I feel like this is like likedid they steal a little bit from Sailor
Moon a little bit on this one? And then there you had Then you
had tug Mug, your favorite hadred eyes. I vaguely remember some of
them, like because like for redeyes, I remember red eyes vaguely.

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Then you had a chilla. Yeah, I guess is what her power was
fire. It was a female aloro who now I don't l looks very
familiar to me, like more becauseof he looks similar like there's a similar

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design from a from a show calledChaotic. I'm pretty sure you remember Chaotic.
It was on four K. It'sright vague. Yeah, like there's
a creature on there that's very familiarto that one. Uh then a mock
who was I guess this was thebig thing that Luna rode around on,

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Yeah, which was like a bigguy that walked around on the fours,
had like horns on his head andhe didn't speak. So let's see.
The moon Tugs were in a groupof alien raiders that came from Plunder's moons

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when they came from when they cameto the Third Earth, they tried to
overthrow Mumra both he defeated them inin case them in Molten Lava and the
Forbidden Territories of the Dark Side nearafter Mumrous near defeat at fire Rock and
three New ThunderCats Bengali, Lynso andpum Ramira Mira, yeah, Amira was

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the betrayed lion. Oh and theNew ThunderCats Yeah yeah, over the Rise
and he had mom Mu poses him. Yeah, well you know what,

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mom, that's my favorite character.Mama, Mama, where would be without
his loyal dog that everybody banks offof where his names parks after them.
Hold on a second, I thinkthat was our governor because like even like

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like for instance, even from momra m like so like, yeah,
he's the bad guy, but asyou were saying, he is actually kind
of the hero at the same point, Well, it's like, really was

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Mamron doing anything bad? He wasn'tterrorizing the Urbels or the rebel Burbels time.
He just slept, you know.The mutants were doing their own thing.
Well, like the mutants came didthey come from Third Earth or did
they they came from Blundhar, whichwas near Tandera. But like the thunder

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can show up and wake Mama upand then like you know, you can
just have being a dick, Mama, And I'm I was like, how
am I being a dick? Youwould have faded my home because like,
seriously, if they had the problemwith Mamron now he was doing things on
the other side of the planet whereMamarn is in all the rainbow under her

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white pyramid and the ancient which isa good Okay, so you have the
main canon and here's the second secondarycanon. So according to the first chapter
of Wild Storms comic Thundercat's origins.He rose in Villains. Mambrar's origin is
set in ancient Egypt. Actual Earth, well it isn't Third Earth's supposed to

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be like a parallel Earth. No, an ancient Egypt. He was once
Wakata, a member of the Pharaoh'scouncil. In his Most Loyal of Vizir,
in this chapter, it shows Waka'spet dog Matet, the future Mamas.

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The friendship made with Pharaoh was soclose and enduring that the sovereign actually
considered him a part of his family. So nice Amrah the thing Mama was
so awesome became the family, however, because real aim was to throw the
oral power of the pharaohs and theda Coupe de Tat and become ruler of

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the land. Whatever it is thatword is cool, I did say.
It's a French term coop desta.So to achieve his goal, he invoked
the presence of ancient spirits of evilfor the first time by using the four
magical ruins, each representing one uhone of the four evil beings. The

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ancient spirits agreed to help him.Macaw was invested with evil powers, becoming
immortal sorcerer and demon de priest intheir service, while the entire his entire
body like basically mutated into all yeah, like mutated into like this caveratous great
form. Finally, a new formwas given to him. Mama Rah,

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knowing about this betrayal, the Pharaohimmediately faced the monsters a grotesque being.
Trusting his newfound powers, Mamra orderedthe Pharaoh to bow down and proclaim himself
the new master of the realm otherthan the less. The Pharaoh's son confronted
him and quickly managed to out maneuvermamraan battle, defeating him. See like,

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I don't I don't care about Mama'sorigins. I really don't. He's
there and he's evil, and theydo battle with him. I did.
I don't need more. There's somethere's some bad guys. I don't need
the origin Like co Commander, thecomic book origin is kinda you get it

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was parts record to the movie whathe was parts snake. Oh that's ye.
See, that's the co book origin, or at least his retailing of
the origin, because it's like theytell it and then you're like, I
don't know if this is true,and the like the Jokers or could be,

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could be not, we don't know, but like he's a down on
his luck, used car salesman whothen starts out a political movement kind of
just railing against the government, andit surprisingly starts to really catch on and
he kind of forms this cult aroundthis movement. You're like, Okay,
that's kind of cool. I likethat. Then the cartoon happened, and

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I know we're getting with the whomight just turn this into a G I.
Joe episode of Fortunami because in thecartoon you found out that that people
just like evolved people that had evolvedsnakes. Yeah, the rule of the

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world. Just make this episode aboutthe film of the eighties. But the
yeah, but the ice age drovethem into seclusion. The snakes again,
ice age bad. And uh,he was He was a brilliant scientist who
scarred himself or mutated himself accidentally duringan accident, accidentally an accident, and

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he like grew a bunch of eyesand stuff. And then the leader of
the city and the city has themost marvelous name ever, Cobra lah I
remember the battle cry the battle people, Oh my god. And then so
the leader was globulous. It wasthis giant like snake Man. He had

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a snake it was, and thena human from the waist up sent him
out to reconquer the world for thepeople of Cobra La and co kind of
like lost his way and decided tojust do it for himself and and and

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and to get things back on track, the lobby List subliminally sent out messages
to doctor Mindbender to create Sir Pentor, the Cobra Emperor, who I loathed
with a passion even as a kid, I hated. In the course of

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the movie, as his punishment,Cobra Commander gets completely turned into a snake.
I remember, and like in whichshow was he with? That was
the wind Block Roadblock was blinded whiletrying to escape Cobra Blog and uh so
Cooper Commander coiled himself around rock Bogand acted as his eyes And I don't

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remember now. The next season ofthe cartoon, Coba Camander is able to
come back as a regular guy.He's a science Oh and I can remember
like before that movie, before Iwas aware of it, because the movie
came out, I was like maybeone or two before I was aware of
a movie before I saw it.One Saturday morning, the mystery of Cobra

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Commander was the biggest appeal about CobraCommander. Who was this guy? What's
under that mask? And I rememberg Hasburg came out with a line of
G I Joe's based on G IJoe American Hero, like yeah, the
big twelve ench guys, not thelittle tiny ones and you get changed your

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clothes and everything, you know,just like yeah, like the original JA
Joe's. I begged begged of theCobra Comander one because on the commercial you
could take his hood off and itwas like they would see the kid take
us it off, and you knowyou would it would cut away right before
you got to see what what wasunder the mask? And I was like,

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please, I don't want anything elsefor the rest of the year.
I just want to say, Ijust I just want to scribon creadd GoF
of Christmas and I got it andhe's faceless, was me it super works
and open up the present, ripopen that box, pull him out.

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Mind you this is you know,I'm like nineteen ninety four or five,
so it's covered in twisty ties andeverything. I about breaking the toy and
just rip it out of the package, take his hood off and he's wearing
a mask. Gonna be it's aregular head that molded into it is like

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a bread bandanna made of snake skin. I have never been so disappointed in
my life, true eighties villainy rightthere to take off the mask and he's
wearing a mask. I was sodejected, and I lost faith in Joe

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from there and on out because we'redoing eighties, since we're doing eighties cartoon
villains in let's let's go on toNigatron, skeletor Meat. So I didn't
watch a lot of Transformers because GI Joe, at least where I live,

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G I Joe and Transformers were onthe same hour on different channels.
J I Joe one out of tenbecause I was a G I Joe fanatic.
Yeah, every now and then ifit was like a repeat of an
episode or an episode didn't like,Okay, I finally watch Transformers. Yeah,
so it's like, yeah, Iwatched him bad Transformers, but anywhere

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near as much as well. Solike, if we'll just stick on Megatron
for a few minutes, like,now, which Megatron? Like of the
Transformers did you watch the most besidesthe Wars Megadron. He was the most
fun and you could never beat him. The only Megatron had never lost,

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because even when he lost in theWars, he just like hopped through time
and went to Cybertron and changed everything. Yeah, because that's when we got
Beast Machines. Yeah, he evenmade Rhinox one of the bad guys,
and roon Ox wanted to stay thebad guys. Yes, it is completely
insane. I was so pissed off. And you finally find out that that

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one bad guy is Rhinox and he'slike, yeah, I know, my
monks, I don't care. Iwant to be a bad guy. You're
right, You're the most trusted,loyal lieutenant of the Maximals. How could
you? Because like for me,I didn't watch Jinto, but after Beast

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Wars, I saw a good chunkof Beast Machines and like, and I
watched like, and I was veryfaithful when it come to watching Transformers,
Like after that I watched, Iwatched more Transformers after it went off the
air, I get remmed vhs andon the Transformers movie, which was far
superior to the k Joe movie.Yeah, because Transformers movie, you got

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Galvatron. Well, the death ofthe Death of Ultimus Prime, but also
at the same time. Originally themovie was supposed to be a lot different
than what they released for G.I. Joe. But the reason they
did they changed it was separate transformerscame out first, and then they had
to change. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, because like because

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they were like Prime was such likean emotional bload of kids has had no
clue, and I was like,this is just toys. We're killing off
all these toys to bring in thenew toy line who gives a ship?
And then like there was just giveus one new story. This little boy
locked himself in his room for likedays because he was mourning the loss of

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Auchmus Prime. So they won thenext season. They immediately brought back and
two. At the end of uhG I Joe because they had a shoehorn
in this line of Hey do youguys hear Duke's gonna be okay? He
came out of his COMA YEA killedDuke. Yeah. I think it would
have been a lot better if theyjust killed Duke, but they didn't want

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to take that chance, and they'regonna kill anybody kill. He hated that
character. Now, no, youwatched a ship ton of he Man,
didn't you. Uh yes, hada lot of the actors too. I
wish i'd kept up hold up forme, I didn't watch any I think

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like I watched a good bit ofhe Man. I watched more of the
two thousand and three one that Ireally liked. That was really really well
done. The animation was great,the voice actor was good, the story
was good. I haven't seen anyof this new he Man that much.
Now, now you got two.You got Revelations, which Kevin Smith did,
which I think was that it takesplace after the original run of HEM,

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and you've got like two competing heMans. Well they won one for
adults and one for kids, theone fors for kids, the ones for
kids. I try to watch alittle bit and it was like I had
no no like qualms toward it.But the Revelations I watched all of it,

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and it was phenomenal And like theeighties he Man, it's okay,
you know, skeletor is it's wellit gus like that, you know,
it's kind of just ridiculous. Andand Prince Adam is the giggest superhero of

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all time. He is absolutely.I mean he's got pink pants for Christ.
Him and Man at Arms are well, what about fisto? Everybody needs?
But the superior he man is theMasters of the Universe movie Live Action.

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Say what you will about the settingand the story drastically changed because Cannon
ran out of money or us.It would have been totally shot on Attornia
and he would have had a lotstupid sit on Earth. Franklin Yella as
Skeletor is like hop tear cinematic villains. He knew the assignment, he knew

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it was stupid, and boy heplayed it to the fucking hell man.
But it was like the guy thatplayed I News. Yeah, they knew
it was stupid. They had uhdoing it. Now, when did the
now early Power Rangers that was ninetysix, wasn't it? The movie was
okay? Well, like when justcame out any three and any four three

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four? Now hold on here,Oh so it was I But now that
one was originally based on like let'shere also known as U sab Sibon.
Just and Sam kind of figure outwhat like which what was the original one?

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What do you mean? Well,because like the Japanese, Yeah,
the Japanese on, I'm trying tofigure out which because well I knew it
was Super Sentai, Zoo Rangers,z Yu Range. I think it's the
original. What what Mighty Morphans basedoff of? Yeah, because there there

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were Super Sentai seasons before those.Okay, so actually came out in ninety
two. MM, very interesting andrealize that like, go on about isn't
I was going to go about likeLord zaid, but like, since we're
talking, we should probably retreat fromPower Rangers. It's not cartoons was animated

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what c g I? Oh yeah, fine, we'll say for Kaiji review.
Let's go. Well, let's getback to we didn't talk about Megatron
too much, like like you doyou want Mega Tron? I didn't like.
Let's saying, out of all theMegatrons, I was by far the

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one that had the more the mostof the Reds besides Beast Wars, and
like his especially like once he bitchsmacked and he did a lot until he
became Galvatron. How did they Theybrought me out and they brought back Star
Screaming, didn't they? Yeah?I don't remember. They brought everybody back,

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but also star scream came every timehe came back like Sars Scream is
my favorite. Yeah, and youknow he's he was a voice about Chris
Ladder, which I loved the Commanderand so like as a kid, I'm
like that guy sounds all like acommander, you know, and IMDb K

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like Chris la that Chris Ladder.Yeah. I it's like then a wonderful
episode of Transformers because Transformers are sittinglike two thousand five. Ye, it's
in the future from g I JimAnd there's a character who shows up Old
Snake and it's Cobra Commander. It'sjust been the years, haven't mankind to

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him? And I want to say, there's a scene where he interacts Starscream
to a certain degree and it's justChris Ladder talking to himself Old Snake Transformers.
He's like an arm of the DeilierOld Snake Transformers. It's like there's
even there's a part where he startsdoing the Cobra shout where he goes Kyle

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bra coughs, yeah it's co Commander. Yeah, it's it's legit. Just
I mean even mentions like he's likeI used to run a terrorist organization,
Like yeah, there's so sometime inthe Intervening years Over lost its battle against
g I, Joe and Cobra Commandertook up the guys of Old Snake.

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What year was this? What yearwas this episode? Because at the same
time, it's like, could MetalGear sue that's her Joe set crossover and
they crossed over in the comic booksa lot too. Oh God, yeah,

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like that one really awesome on theydid I think in id id W
where Cobra finds the arc Yeah,and takes control of all of the Transformers
and turns them into like they alltransform into his takes and stuff like that
in Cobra vehicles. That's awesome.Like to going through all the Megatrons,

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the one that I remember the mostwas one from the Edge. It was
like it wasn't like he was atank. So it was from Robots in
Disguise, not the original, butit was two thousand. I liked the
Megatron from Armada. I liked alot. It may have been Armada the

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one I'm thinking of, Like hehad like those huge, gigantic like pincer
looking Yeah, because for that youhad like because like with that one it
went into three you had Armada enterJohn and Cybertron I watched, I don't

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watch. I watched a lot ofit because like, like the I think
it was the Cybertron the season finale, there's a point to where Optimus Prime
and Up happened to fight, Likeit's like, I guess he either combines
with Primus. I think, youknow, Cybertron's other form, Primus uh

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ends up combining with him and hasto fight Unicron. So that should have
been the end of the Transformers moviebecause Unicron that was the introduction of Unicron
the g One movie. Cybertron shouldhave transformed as well and had a giant

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fight with Unicron. And I hatedlike the season after the movie, they
bring back comfrom this prime a mostimmediately and then they try to like they
go over the origins of Unicron andhe was built by this like little Monk

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guy, Mike your don't I don't, well, like even I don't understand
a lot of cartoons or just anythingin general that like desperately feel the need
to explain the origins of something.It's like I don't always need to know
the mystique is a part of theappeal. Like there's one uh, I

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don't need to know where Unicorn camefrom. Here's one for you. So
apparently Cybertron used to be a greenplanet. Yes, yeah, because that
was established in these machines. Yeah, and it's because, like I think
you likes, even in the comicsor some like, there's one lone plant
grain plants still living in Cybertron.It's protected under someone's desk, you know.

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So if we're doing that, who'syour favorite Transformer? Favorite Transformer?
Soundwave? Really, Soundwave is thecoolest straightsforward. He's got five little Transformers
around him. He's got that reallyawesome synthesized voice. Yeah, you know,
I love book so and he isutterly loyal to Megatron to the end.

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He is of everybody Megatron knows hecan count on that way. He
just he just looks. Doobot ismy favorite? Which Dina Grimlock. Now,
I do like Grimma, I dolove Grimlock, but no, I
am going with Oh, okay,the Raptor who he actually I felt like

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whoever wrote his part read a lotof woverine. I love Dinobots. He
is one of the best Transformer charactersof all fucking time. Yeah, like,
and the most with character developments.Yes, because he was he was
he was a very Yeah, hewas a predocon but like he had but

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he lived by the warrior's code.Yeah, and then as he got better,
it's like, this is wrong.We can't be doing this. It's
like you, why would you tackthem? Like, like you call yourself
a warrior? And like even whenhe became a good guy, he was
still kind of a jerk. Yes, he was still a jerk regardless.

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Him and rat Trap got into itall the way. Yeah, they hate
each other, but it wasn't likewhen beast Machines started. Anybody that you
would have thought that they would havehad turned bad would have made the most
sense. But no, he stayedwith the maximum. He died a hero

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saving the human race. He dieda hero saving our knee and the thrown
brother. But when it when itcomes to uh, did you ever see
watch Transformers? It was two thousandand eleven, I think series. It

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was about time to go back now. Yeah, so, oh that's a
that's the end of this episode ofpart of this is a fun villain talk.
We will continue an actual subject anotherday.