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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The Cavalcade of America.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
America. America means skyscrapers and halos, the crack of a
pioneer's playlock, and the sound of the Riveters machine, the
outline of a church people against the midnight Skies. America
is your story. America is you and everyone you know.
The Cavalcade of America starring Gregory bec The Night, Two
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for Men starring Gregory beck On, The caval Pet of America,
(01:04):
and now School for Men. Sorry Gregory, back, guys. Jim
Davenport on The caval Gays of America.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Don't let the title is not play foolis this.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Is a mischief. Yes, that's right. I'd like to tell
you the story. My name is Jim Davenport. This is
my story too. It was just that to my training
twelve weeks ago and the finest school of its kind
in the world, the FBI School in Washington. Now, uh,
don't get that wrong. I'm not an FBI agent. That's
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a member of the brook City Police Force, the detective
sent by my chief to take the training. The FBI
offers any police officer who can go, and the facilities
are well. We'll let my story tell more about that.
I wasn't a signed to this case because it was
in Midvale when my brother Jerry lived and worked into
the detection. Midvale an average size, average looking in midwestern town.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And on this the picture of spring night, it was quiet. Josh,
Who's who's there?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Come on?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Open up, go away, get away from here.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What's the matter with you? It's me Jim?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, oh oh jesu? Oh hey what goes on here?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Can a brother in law drop in?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It was waiting at close the door.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh what's the idea of the baride of locks and boats?
Dracula making a nightly round?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's just I'm on tensimeters?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
What's fort agness? What's the trouble? Nothing wrong with Jerry?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh no, he's fine. Where is he? Wait?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What's the trouble?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Day out on these cases?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh, this is a fine way to see the brother
in lawsons.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
He steps in the halls, he gets troubles. Now sundled
down before we just start at the beginning. You sell,
there's nothing wrong with Jerry.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Jemmy has a let decently riating a square.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Meal and wheat. When my brother doesn't eat, there's something wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
End the third night?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh, now I get it. I got off the train
walk down the main street. It was like a more gut.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Everyone's terrified. People are afraid to go out. I worry
soil about Jerry.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, why do you know how he is gam when
he's working a case.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
He never thinks about himself. The rice has been honest
without thinking.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Some day I'm a said, he's carriage book.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, I know what you mean, the old methods.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now that's but oh yeah, I feel awful.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
We haven't seen him months.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And when you do drop yet it's all right, let's
be guess now you still do magic for a wafful baker.
I listen much better on a full summer. Yeah, Jenner's
guys that the Devil's luck and boryare But that must
be some leet Jerry, something you can pick us. Well,
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that's so we thought. After the first murder we hit
a wall. But about the second, the same thing. Now
there's one tonight. Who was it? Same as the other two?
A girl this time it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Was Mary Never. Yeah, we're gonna do it. Are you
sure the same person's doing all the killing?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Looks like it break in kill, break in kill. It
sounds like pattern murders was pattern murders. This kind of
a killer never varies. Every murder work committed the same
way exactly strangulation and the time between them. I mean,
how long from one murder to the next, Almost exactly
two weeks to the day. Look, this killer is following
a step patterns. You've got about two weeks before he
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hits again. If he does, you can do a lot
in two weeks with what We've got nothing to work
on now, you can never tell I could, well, what
are we gonna say?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't know, Jerry, I've got no business butting in
which things you want?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
If my own brother can't under stain. Oh, I don't
mean my visitor, I mean my oh, my help, help,
what are you getting there? Well, look, I've spent twelve
weeks in Wah. Yeah, I know the sci Look down, look, look,
wait a minute. I've heard of our fellows going down
to that place. They all come back talking like professors
of crime while they're a pained every cop on the
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fort I'd rather keep my popularity and learned the tricks
from Bill Howell. Yeah, who's Bill home? He's been in
the fourth ten years. He's in the tradition. When there's
a job he goes into it head on. He doesn't
handle a crush with tweezers in microscope. He had some habits.
His case was going on now, and he called me
in because he likes me and he thinks I can help.
I Look, Jerry, I know I'm with the books to
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the police fort and this is midfield. But it's what
I've learned in Washington will help you. I'll be glad
to stick around. Okay. The first thing tomorrow morning, we'll.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Go to the Nebo home.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Day, Jim j Just like I said, the Killers whin Yeah,
but it'll clip sometimes. That's what we said six weeks ago. Oh,
hi is Bill Killers? Is still how best detective on
the floor. It's still my brother Chim. Oh are you Bill? Okay?
It was on the carpet again this morning. Jerry out there.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
My ears are seen.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But we've got to get something everything. Yeah, you're telling
me where to find it. Yere? You see the room
after the murder last night? Didn't Yeah, No one's been
interaunced since we left last night.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
What.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh, it's just instant. Well, let's get it straight. The
murderer breaking this window. We'll first, he cut that screen
so he could try open the window lights. There's copper
the screen. It's just copper. Yeah, he had to cut
all around to get in. That's nothing new. We saw
that last night and I went in the room. What
are you driving at, gym? Well, this window is out
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of the way over here at the side of the
house where you're going. So there are three other windows.
Talk the son of the house. Much easier to get
at this killer. Take the one that's the hardest to
get at. Go ahead. Why why the window we again?
Who's almost covered with shrubberries from the outside. Yeah, what
in your line is? Well, his murder was committed while
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it was dark. This window would be kept to find
to see in the dick, but he picked it, passed
us to another tree. Sure, let's cat to him being
seen with other three. Yeah, that's all us. I'll give
you tender one that if there was no light in
this window at night, you couldn't see it, but your
murderer knew where and how to find it. You thinking
about an insie job, then I'm not thinking about anything
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until we ask the family some questions.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But we have only one seven and made.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Surely you don't think it's no, No, we don't but
with anyone in the house.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Who might have looked it over, who might have seen
that that window was the most protected from the tree.
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I can't be expected to remember something I should have decided, of.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Course, not thank you. Missus Neville's that's what you want?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, what you chewing to find the ninitude?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
My Joe, what are you doing? Nothing?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's not nothing? Use three people already knew do it again.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
While you, uh, well, you better get some breast. Missus
Neville's nothing still, Missus middle middle, you didn't. I don't like.
What are we doing? Well, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Bang our heads against the wall?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's what we're doing, Joe, Inger was an inside job, Jim.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh, I didn't say that. I just thought that might
have been someone who knew.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
That that window was doing. A dozen strangers coming to
a house and a munst him milkman, guess man, waterman,
grows three delivery dry clean as laundering man. Yeah, we
can't check all of them, and we are doing they
do ill. I mean, gon the thread it was on
the floor. Let me said, so what a viny oh?
Was it here when you looked last night? I didn't
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see it. It would be easy to overlook against postop
the shore or sure, but maybe it's just something you've
been waiting for. I thread not even an inch long.
It could have come from anything. I know that, so,
uh if you wanted If he was thinking it might
have come from the killed his coat, No, jay one.
Well he examined the cottages of the screen with a
magnifying glass, thinking maybe he might have caught his coat,
but he didn't, and they came through clean as.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
A whit or uh flipping have his thread? Well, what
are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'd like to send it down to Washington? Why think? Yeah?
So they asked the I lab there and they'll tell
us why. It's all about it? They SDI lab in
Washington gives every police force in the country the best laboratory.
But kind of the world think advantage of it, Jerry Bill,
They were in a blind alley. Now this great might
tell you something. What can you lose but him?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
There are eleven thousand people in this town who might own.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
A brown tweed called well worn? Why don't report from
the FBI lab doesn't help? No, you didn't read all
of it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I found traces a sodium fire celtic on the treat
and what's that? I always spend a long a list
of useless.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
To the chemical. So these last three out checkers. What's
the matter with the rest of the list. There's a
flock he used too unlucky but appear it's.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The paper breaching. Anybody in Middveil manufactured paper.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
In the next games MANU affect you?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's a third? Is photography? Photography?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, sodium entire sphage. It's commonly called.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Hyper using photography to fixed print of negative. That's a
development photography. It's photographers. Hey, Jim, maybe a gaining to
grin a photographer to be able to get into our house?
Tap there a long time?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Why are you time to case the fly success to
go back to the never home and ask ause your questions?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, no, there's no one here.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Knows anything about hypography. What's that got to do with
my name?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It was just a segment of level. Now, didn't Mary
have any recent photographs?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Names votivan?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I did?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Who took it? I don't know. I was away.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
When I came back, Mary had it already made. David
timmis my gas? Uh?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Is that it on the piano.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yes see, and you don't know the photograph's name.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
M and the only one who get telling could get
named hm. So this is never we're going to take
that photograph. We'll return it later.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
That end.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Again a guy didn't even sign it. No, No, what
kind of a photographer doesn't sign his name? They got
named Jerry on a long chair. That's Puss in the
families of those other trips. No, I couldn't remember who
it was.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But he did come to the house and hit my
sister's pictures.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And shortly after you said it was shift, I think
hid Please?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
What was his name?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I please?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
How was I to know it would be important?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You couldn't know, but we'd like to think that's sort of.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yes, there was a photography. He took a pictures, just report.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What was his name? Do you remember? I? Yes, that
was Joseph. How do you know?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Because I'm going to make out a check? But he
wanted chet.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Then he looks like we're on the right track. Eleven
photographers in a phone book and not one name. Ben Well,
missus Cook is wrong or maybe not Jerry. He doesn't
have to be his right name. Maybe he's not even
a real photographer. That you that excuse to get into
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the houses and look them over. I don't think they'll
look at it this way. To take those photos and
they're good, you'd have to have to quip the camera
life dog through.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Does that sound reasonable?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah? Sure, the whole team. Let's pay a.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Visit to eat eleven photographers one by one.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Oh no, don't do that, are you crazy, Jim?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
The one league we've got the first in six weeks
and you want.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
To stop dead on it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
No, it's not that And you said these were planter murders.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Takes two weeks upon all right, it's been six days
almost a week since Mary never was killed. That gives
us about eight days and nail a murder before he
gets somebody else eight short stays. Yeah, but if you
ask questions now, the one we're after among those eleven
photographers will get in two species. He's clever, Jerry, so
cleverly he didn't leave her clue until we found his bread.
Give him one chance to suspective. We've got a lead on.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Him and he'll cover up fast. Then what's the answer. Well,
I'm gonna send these three.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Photographs the FBI. Haven't Washington have him checked? For finger
prints and a few other things. But pad will take time, Jerry,
I met a couple of days and we've got eight.
Let's hope we learned something something and will put the
finger on that killer before those eight days are up.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
With only a few days left to catch a vicious
murderer before he.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Striped again, Jim Davenport and his brother Jerry have used
the facilities of the SBI laboratory. Him trained at the
FBI school in Washington, tells Jerry the results of sending
three photographs to the labs. And each one of these
three photographs was printed on the same kind of paper,
So spend a lot of photographers here's the same time. Sure,
but we've got three coincidences, Jerry. First a photographer entered
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the three houses where the three girls were killed. Second,
he left his photograph unsigned. Third, the same kind.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Of paper was used to print each one.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That's too much to ask, even of a long arm
of chance. Yeah, sure it is all right. Here's the
list of the eleven photographers in Midval. Now which one
do we one? And we've got only three days to
jumping before he goes on the loosing I'm gonna list
to photographic supply house. I was going to ask him question, Well,
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let's see we apply all the shops for that paper. Well,
do you ever supplied directly? This praphing is very Teldham.
We're a wholesale photography usually got this discount of the
shop he deals with. All right, let's have a list
to the shops you supplied in the last three or
four months. Right here there are only four the act.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Ecamery, SHOMPI iras, the Lowis photo.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
One hobby Chomping, a brand Central.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Camera store address is right there.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well, yes, we show quite a bit of it.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's popular.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, he told a large quantity of this paper through
a photographer for a reason. They why you care?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's a better fact. I think I remember selling a
dress about two months ago.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
One photographer, Yes, I think so.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
In shold me a business card and I gave him
the regular trade discountel.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I got his name. Man. Yes, my studio agrees.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's a Hubert Carson five long way.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Would I just around the corner.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Over nice studio you've got here at the Conson. Yes,
I'm quite pleased with it.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Can I help you?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's a it's a Davenport Davenport.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
The name sound familiar. No, I don't think so. You
do very nice work, Thank you, I say, it's not
a photo of the Nevill girl, but yes it is.
I I took her picture just about a week before
the horrible tragedy for a girl lovely too, about a
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week before. Yes, when I read about the terrible tragedy,
I could hardly believe it. But I imagine it was
a shot dreadful. But you came to see me about
uh the war time? Want done?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I'm not sure what.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I was I have. She'd like to see some samples
of my work, I mean, other than these hanging in here. Here,
says I would very much. Well, if you'll step into
the display room, I'll just bring a couple in here.
I'd like to look at his color prints. Oh A,
certainly I won't see a moment. I don't hurry, mister Carson,
No hurry. Jerry admitted he took Mary Neville's picture, even
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had a print of it in a studio. While that
doesn't sound like a gilly man of leaving, Jerry the
man where after as a psychopathic killer, he'd feed us
head of stain ego on news of his crime he'd
wants things around him to remind himself of his imagine superiority,
having Mary Neville's photo around my piece, and hey, hey,
say your brink on that glasses this from Christ with
study old mats those on the photos you were sent
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to me up to the eye land Wait got it?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Not yet?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Huh? What more do you want? Now?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
He can fool you as in all three houses.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Where they murders what they're midd it, even gave a
phony name on one job rand it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But evidence like that wouldn't stand up five minutes.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Of course the smart ten who I could bust that
white d Let's fall him down and ask him a.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Two questions I wouldn't do simply because a man took photos.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Of the street girls. There's no reason to believe he
killed a flick. Suppose we put a tail on hire.
He got two and a half days before he's able
to go on another rampage. Okay, put a tail on him.
Have him watch what if he get wise and then
he lost him? You can't prove anything, Oh I did
him get wise in their life?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Jog? Though?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Maybe he even leave town and stat is killing someplace
else all or up another tree bill I've sent something
else to Washington.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
What a knife I found in his studio? Right, but
the murders weren't committed with.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
A knife, I don't know. But the compass scream and
the level home is cut with a knife.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Or something like it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So because even a minute trace of comper on Carson's knife,
the FBI lab will find it and that'll be it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
One more thing the newspaper's killings is doing.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Give it to him. What hell, lem just gotta leave
You mean, jip my hand. Let Carson know? Are you crazy?
Tell the papers about the thread from a woolf jacket
a brown coat. I don't get it up from John Man.
He may try to get rid of that coat. Yeah,
put a tailor. If he leaves his studio apartment with
a package name it sure, Sure he left his studio
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apartment a dozen times and no PETI no, and the
manager of the building square is nothing like a coat
was burning the incinerator.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, but if Constant dum Man, he must.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Have read the papers, he must know about that thread,
and he tried to get rid of that coat. Yeah,
but he didn't. There was an eye on him every
minute of the day and night. I'm telling you the
guy didn't take it out. Oh he should have done it.
Did in his place while he was out and take
up the coat a show. That wouldn't have meant a
thing too. You don't just see he didn'tmit it with
his coat. We could prove the thread came from it.
But so what he admits having been in the Neville
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High Oh but no thread could lay around for four weeks.
We one of those things I learned to asbi school.
If that the case wants to be tiped so tight
that there's no loophole, sure, but conson we tried to
get rid of the coat. We gave him two days.
That's the meaning with wise looted your man, and that
could mean he'll lay off, maybe leads town seem We
got to stop that. If we have a losing lord
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knows how many more he'll kill. He'll wait a minute,
Jerry's holy matra the man. Something you said at the
Never Horse, Jerry, you said thousands of people come into
a housand a month. Yeah, what about his guest man, laundryman,
dry cleaners, dry cleaners, chick up that delivery cost could
have had to.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Dry cleaner pick it up. Oh what thumbbells. We are
find out what cleaners perfect that neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Carson, here it is, my driver picks it up.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You're showing about the coat.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
There's the time, Hubert Carson.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh another dead end. This coat's not brown, it's blue.
Oh well it was brown, brown book? How was this
coat brown when it came in? Yes, Jerry our news
paper trick works. He had his coat die. Come on,
let's get caught and take it easy, easy once four
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years ship he's got always using the shore.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But remember the constance killed three times?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
One more won't matter to him. And don't worry.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
The FBI lab gave us a case.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But I'll take over from here. Take him step up, No, all,
don't go in. Let's talk. Okay, I've packed up a
hundred guys. Yes, kays. When you're under arrest a rent,
I don't know how you get drants and come on,
but what's it all about? You'll know? Want me to
come and ask you? Well? Uh, do you mind if
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I get my coat? Now?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Twenty a minute? Semary our cut. What's the money?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's it?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
The guvernment co p Why not.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
With all these crimes? Sorry? Well now, uh may I
have my hat or do you think I have a
gun in ask oh? I need care for god?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Jerry.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Oh, hey, we did have a gun in that hacket.
You see, Jerry would have been much better. They'd than
made a step off of a horse. You two are
pretty smart. Yeah, and we're getting swiney. Get moving, Chison,
get out of here. We'll have got him covered. Jerry,
what's the rest, brother? I'm in a hurry with all
these things I learned about the FBI on this case,
and now that I find myself still alive, I'm going
to pay a visit to dear all Washington. Come on, chats,
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and I'm making a late for skulls. Well, Hubert Cotton
was tried and convicted. My brother, Jerry's an FBI in
school now only four weeks are over. He'll go back
to Midvale and keep the others on the port. You'll know,
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like every other police officers, the FBI Laboratory stands ready
at all times.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
To aid local law enforcements.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
By bringing scientific methods and the results a more and
more effective fight against crimes. My men, exquipped with the
training of America.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Has the opera the best in the world.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yes,
The Cavalcade of America.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
America. America means skyscrapers and halos, the crack of a
pioneer's playlock, and the sound of the Riveters machine, the
outline of a church people against the midnight Skies. America
is your story. America is you and everyone you know.
The Cavalcade of America starring Gregory bec The Night, Two
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for Men starring Gregory beck On, The caval Pet of America,
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and now School for Men. Sorry Gregory, back, guys. Jim
Davenport on The caval Gays of America.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Don't let the title is not play foolis this.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Is a mischief. Yes, that's right. I'd like to tell
you the story. My name is Jim Davenport. This is
my story too. It was just that to my training
twelve weeks ago and the finest school of its kind
in the world, the FBI School in Washington. Now, uh,
don't get that wrong. I'm not an FBI agent. That's
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a member of the brook City Police Force, the detective
sent by my chief to take the training. The FBI
offers any police officer who can go, and the facilities
are well. We'll let my story tell more about that.
I wasn't a signed to this case because it was
in Midvale when my brother Jerry lived and worked into
the detection. Midvale an average size, average looking in midwestern town.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And on this the picture of spring night, it was quiet. Josh,
Who's who's there?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Come on?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Open up, go away, get away from here.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
What's the matter with you? It's me Jim?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, oh oh jesu? Oh hey what goes on here?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Can a brother in law drop in?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It was waiting at close the door.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Oh what's the idea of the baride of locks and boats?
Dracula making a nightly round?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's just I'm on tensimeters?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
What's fort agness? What's the trouble? Nothing wrong with Jerry?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Oh no, he's fine. Where is he? Wait?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What's the trouble?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Day out on these cases?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh, this is a fine way to see the brother
in lawsons.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
He steps in the halls, he gets troubles. Now sundled
down before we just start at the beginning. You sell,
there's nothing wrong with Jerry.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Jemmy has a let decently riating a square.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Meal and wheat. When my brother doesn't eat, there's something wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
End the third night?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Oh, now I get it. I got off the train
walk down the main street. It was like a more gut.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Everyone's terrified. People are afraid to go out. I worry
soil about Jerry.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, why do you know how he is gam when
he's working a case.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
He never thinks about himself. The rice has been honest
without thinking.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Some day I'm a said, he's carriage book.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah, I know what you mean, the old methods.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now that's but oh yeah, I feel awful.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
We haven't seen him months.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And when you do drop yet it's all right, let's
be guess now you still do magic for a wafful baker.
I listen much better on a full summer. Yeah, Jenner's
guys that the Devil's luck and boryare But that must
be some leet Jerry, something you can pick us. Well,
(04:11):
that's so we thought. After the first murder we hit
a wall. But about the second, the same thing. Now
there's one tonight. Who was it? Same as the other two?
A girl this time it.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Was Mary Never. Yeah, we're gonna do it. Are you
sure the same person's doing all the killing?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Looks like it break in kill, break in kill. It
sounds like pattern murders was pattern murders. This kind of
a killer never varies. Every murder work committed the same
way exactly strangulation and the time between them. I mean,
how long from one murder to the next, Almost exactly
two weeks to the day. Look, this killer is following
a step patterns. You've got about two weeks before he
(04:51):
hits again. If he does, you can do a lot
in two weeks with what We've got nothing to work
on now, you can never tell I could, well, what
are we gonna say?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I don't know, Jerry, I've got no business butting in
which things you want?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
If my own brother can't under stain. Oh, I don't
mean my visitor, I mean my oh, my help, help,
what are you getting there? Well, look, I've spent twelve
weeks in Wah. Yeah, I know the sci Look down, look, look,
wait a minute. I've heard of our fellows going down
to that place. They all come back talking like professors
of crime while they're a pained every cop on the
(05:24):
fort I'd rather keep my popularity and learned the tricks
from Bill Howell. Yeah, who's Bill home? He's been in
the fourth ten years. He's in the tradition. When there's
a job he goes into it head on. He doesn't
handle a crush with tweezers in microscope. He had some habits.
His case was going on now, and he called me
in because he likes me and he thinks I can help.
I Look, Jerry, I know I'm with the books to
(05:46):
the police fort and this is midfield. But it's what
I've learned in Washington will help you. I'll be glad
to stick around. Okay. The first thing tomorrow morning, we'll.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Go to the Nebo home.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Day, Jim j Just like I said, the Killers whin Yeah,
but it'll clip sometimes. That's what we said six weeks ago. Oh,
hi is Bill Killers? Is still how best detective on
the floor. It's still my brother Chim. Oh are you Bill? Okay?
It was on the carpet again this morning. Jerry out there.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
My ears are seen.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But we've got to get something everything. Yeah, you're telling
me where to find it. Yere? You see the room
after the murder last night? Didn't Yeah, No one's been
interaunced since we left last night.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
What.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh, it's just instant. Well, let's get it straight. The
murderer breaking this window. We'll first, he cut that screen
so he could try open the window lights. There's copper
the screen. It's just copper. Yeah, he had to cut
all around to get in. That's nothing new. We saw
that last night and I went in the room. What
are you driving at, gym? Well, this window is out
(06:45):
of the way over here at the side of the
house where you're going. So there are three other windows.
Talk the son of the house. Much easier to get
at this killer. Take the one that's the hardest to
get at. Go ahead. Why why the window we again?
Who's almost covered with shrubberries from the outside. Yeah, what
in your line is? Well, his murder was committed while
(07:06):
it was dark. This window would be kept to find
to see in the dick, but he picked it, passed
us to another tree. Sure, let's cat to him being
seen with other three. Yeah, that's all us. I'll give
you tender one that if there was no light in
this window at night, you couldn't see it, but your
murderer knew where and how to find it. You thinking
about an insie job, then I'm not thinking about anything
(07:28):
until we ask the family some questions.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But we have only one seven and made.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Surely you don't think it's no, No, we don't but
with anyone in the house.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Who might have looked it over, who might have seen
that that window was the most protected from the tree.
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I can't be expected to remember something I should have decided, of.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Course, not thank you. Missus Neville's that's what you want?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, what you chewing to find the ninitude?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
My Joe, what are you doing? Nothing?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's not nothing? Use three people already knew do it again.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
While you, uh, well, you better get some breast. Missus
Neville's nothing still, Missus middle middle, you didn't. I don't like.
What are we doing? Well, what are we doing?
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Bang our heads against the wall?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That's what we're doing, Joe, Inger was an inside job, Jim.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh, I didn't say that. I just thought that might
have been someone who knew.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
That that window was doing. A dozen strangers coming to
a house and a munst him milkman, guess man, waterman,
grows three delivery dry clean as laundering man. Yeah, we
can't check all of them, and we are doing they
do ill. I mean, gon the thread it was on
the floor. Let me said, so what a viny oh?
Was it here when you looked last night? I didn't
(09:08):
see it. It would be easy to overlook against postop
the shore or sure, but maybe it's just something you've
been waiting for. I thread not even an inch long.
It could have come from anything. I know that, so,
uh if you wanted If he was thinking it might
have come from the killed his coat, No, jay one.
Well he examined the cottages of the screen with a
magnifying glass, thinking maybe he might have caught his coat,
but he didn't, and they came through clean as.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
A whit or uh flipping have his thread? Well, what
are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'd like to send it down to Washington? Why think? Yeah?
So they asked the I lab there and they'll tell
us why. It's all about it? They SDI lab in
Washington gives every police force in the country the best laboratory.
But kind of the world think advantage of it, Jerry Bill,
They were in a blind alley. Now this great might
tell you something. What can you lose but him?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
There are eleven thousand people in this town who might own.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
A brown tweed called well worn? Why don't report from
the FBI lab doesn't help? No, you didn't read all
of it.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I found traces a sodium fire celtic on the treat
and what's that? I always spend a long a list
of useless.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
To the chemical. So these last three out checkers. What's
the matter with the rest of the list. There's a
flock he used too unlucky but appear it's.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
The paper breaching. Anybody in Middveil manufactured paper.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
In the next games MANU affect you?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's a third? Is photography? Photography?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, sodium entire sphage. It's commonly called.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Hyper using photography to fixed print of negative. That's a
development photography. It's photographers. Hey, Jim, maybe a gaining to
grin a photographer to be able to get into our house?
Tap there a long time?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Why are you time to case the fly success to
go back to the never home and ask ause your questions?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
No, no, there's no one here.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Knows anything about hypography. What's that got to do with
my name?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It was just a segment of level. Now, didn't Mary
have any recent photographs?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Names votivan?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I did?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Who took it? I don't know. I was away.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
When I came back, Mary had it already made. David
timmis my gas? Uh?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Is that it on the piano.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yes see, and you don't know the photograph's name.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
M and the only one who get telling could get
named hm. So this is never we're going to take
that photograph. We'll return it later.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
That end.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Again a guy didn't even sign it. No, No, what
kind of a photographer doesn't sign his name? They got
named Jerry on a long chair. That's Puss in the
families of those other trips. No, I couldn't remember who
it was.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But he did come to the house and hit my
sister's pictures.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
And shortly after you said it was shift, I think
hid Please?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
What was his name?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I please?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
How was I to know it would be important?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You couldn't know, but we'd like to think that's sort of.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yes, there was a photography. He took a pictures, just report.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What was his name? Do you remember? I? Yes, that
was Joseph. How do you know?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Because I'm going to make out a check? But he
wanted chet.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Then he looks like we're on the right track. Eleven
photographers in a phone book and not one name. Ben Well,
missus Cook is wrong or maybe not Jerry. He doesn't
have to be his right name. Maybe he's not even
a real photographer. That you that excuse to get into
(13:13):
the houses and look them over. I don't think they'll
look at it this way. To take those photos and
they're good, you'd have to have to quip the camera
life dog through.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Does that sound reasonable?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah? Sure, the whole team. Let's pay a.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Visit to eat eleven photographers one by one.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Oh no, don't do that, are you crazy, Jim?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
The one league we've got the first in six weeks
and you want.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
To stop dead on it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
No, it's not that And you said these were planter murders.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Takes two weeks upon all right, it's been six days
almost a week since Mary never was killed. That gives
us about eight days and nail a murder before he
gets somebody else eight short stays. Yeah, but if you
ask questions now, the one we're after among those eleven
photographers will get in two species. He's clever, Jerry, so
cleverly he didn't leave her clue until we found his bread.
Give him one chance to suspective. We've got a lead on.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Him and he'll cover up fast. Then what's the answer. Well,
I'm gonna send these three.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Photographs the FBI. Haven't Washington have him checked? For finger
prints and a few other things. But pad will take time, Jerry,
I met a couple of days and we've got eight.
Let's hope we learned something something and will put the
finger on that killer before those eight days are up.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
With only a few days left to catch a vicious
murderer before he.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Striped again, Jim Davenport and his brother Jerry have used
the facilities of the SBI laboratory. Him trained at the
FBI school in Washington, tells Jerry the results of sending
three photographs to the labs. And each one of these
three photographs was printed on the same kind of paper,
So spend a lot of photographers here's the same time. Sure,
but we've got three coincidences, Jerry. First a photographer entered
(14:42):
the three houses where the three girls were killed. Second,
he left his photograph unsigned. Third, the same kind.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Of paper was used to print each one.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That's too much to ask, even of a long arm
of chance. Yeah, sure it is all right. Here's the
list of the eleven photographers in Midval. Now which one
do we one? And we've got only three days to
jumping before he goes on the loosing I'm gonna list
to photographic supply house. I was going to ask him question, Well,
(15:13):
let's see we apply all the shops for that paper. Well,
do you ever supplied directly? This praphing is very Teldham.
We're a wholesale photography usually got this discount of the
shop he deals with. All right, let's have a list
to the shops you supplied in the last three or
four months. Right here there are only four the act.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Ecamery, SHOMPI iras, the Lowis photo.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
One hobby Chomping, a brand Central.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Camera store address is right there.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well, yes, we show quite a bit of it.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's popular.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, he told a large quantity of this paper through
a photographer for a reason. They why you care?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's a better fact. I think I remember selling a
dress about two months ago.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
One photographer, Yes, I think so.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
In shold me a business card and I gave him
the regular trade discountel.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I got his name. Man. Yes, my studio agrees.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's a Hubert Carson five long way.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Would I just around the corner.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Over nice studio you've got here at the Conson. Yes,
I'm quite pleased with it.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Can I help you?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
It's a it's a Davenport Davenport.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
The name sound familiar. No, I don't think so. You
do very nice work, Thank you, I say, it's not
a photo of the Nevill girl, but yes it is.
I I took her picture just about a week before
the horrible tragedy for a girl lovely too, about a
(16:47):
week before. Yes, when I read about the terrible tragedy,
I could hardly believe it. But I imagine it was
a shot dreadful. But you came to see me about
uh the war time? Want done?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I'm not sure what.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I was I have. She'd like to see some samples
of my work, I mean, other than these hanging in here. Here,
says I would very much. Well, if you'll step into
the display room, I'll just bring a couple in here.
I'd like to look at his color prints. Oh A,
certainly I won't see a moment. I don't hurry, mister Carson,
No hurry. Jerry admitted he took Mary Neville's picture, even
(17:25):
had a print of it in a studio. While that
doesn't sound like a gilly man of leaving, Jerry the
man where after as a psychopathic killer, he'd feed us
head of stain ego on news of his crime he'd
wants things around him to remind himself of his imagine superiority,
having Mary Neville's photo around my piece, and hey, hey,
say your brink on that glasses this from Christ with
study old mats those on the photos you were sent
(17:46):
to me up to the eye land Wait got it?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Not yet?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Huh? What more do you want? Now?
Speaker 1 (17:51):
He can fool you as in all three houses.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Where they murders what they're midd it, even gave a
phony name on one job rand it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But evidence like that wouldn't stand up five minutes.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Of course the smart ten who I could bust that
white d Let's fall him down and ask him a.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Two questions I wouldn't do simply because a man took photos.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Of the street girls. There's no reason to believe he
killed a flick. Suppose we put a tail on hire.
He got two and a half days before he's able
to go on another rampage. Okay, put a tail on him.
Have him watch what if he get wise and then
he lost him? You can't prove anything, Oh I did
him get wise in their life?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Jog? Though?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Maybe he even leave town and stat is killing someplace
else all or up another tree bill I've sent something
else to Washington.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
What a knife I found in his studio? Right, but
the murders weren't committed with.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
A knife, I don't know. But the compass scream and
the level home is cut with a knife.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Or something like it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
So because even a minute trace of comper on Carson's knife,
the FBI lab will find it and that'll be it.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
One more thing the newspaper's killings is doing.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Give it to him. What hell, lem just gotta leave
You mean, jip my hand. Let Carson know? Are you crazy?
Tell the papers about the thread from a woolf jacket
a brown coat. I don't get it up from John Man.
He may try to get rid of that coat. Yeah,
put a tailor. If he leaves his studio apartment with
a package name it sure, Sure he left his studio
(19:19):
apartment a dozen times and no PETI no, and the
manager of the building square is nothing like a coat
was burning the incinerator.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, but if Constant dum Man, he must.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Have read the papers, he must know about that thread,
and he tried to get rid of that coat. Yeah,
but he didn't. There was an eye on him every
minute of the day and night. I'm telling you the
guy didn't take it out. Oh he should have done it.
Did in his place while he was out and take
up the coat a show. That wouldn't have meant a
thing too. You don't just see he didn'tmit it with
his coat. We could prove the thread came from it.
But so what he admits having been in the Neville
(19:50):
High Oh but no thread could lay around for four weeks.
We one of those things I learned to asbi school.
If that the case wants to be tiped so tight
that there's no loophole, sure, but conson we tried to
get rid of the coat. We gave him two days.
That's the meaning with wise looted your man, and that
could mean he'll lay off, maybe leads town seem We
got to stop that. If we have a losing lord
(20:11):
knows how many more he'll kill. He'll wait a minute,
Jerry's holy matra the man. Something you said at the
Never Horse, Jerry, you said thousands of people come into
a housand a month. Yeah, what about his guest man, laundryman,
dry cleaners, dry cleaners, chick up that delivery cost could
have had to.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Dry cleaner pick it up. Oh what thumbbells. We are
find out what cleaners perfect that neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Carson, here it is, my driver picks it up.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You're showing about the coat.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
There's the time, Hubert Carson.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Oh another dead end. This coat's not brown, it's blue.
Oh well it was brown, brown book? How was this
coat brown when it came in? Yes, Jerry our news
paper trick works. He had his coat die. Come on,
let's get caught and take it easy, easy once four
(21:14):
years ship he's got always using the shore.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
But remember the constance killed three times?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
One more won't matter to him. And don't worry.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
The FBI lab gave us a case.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But I'll take over from here. Take him step up, No, all,
don't go in. Let's talk. Okay, I've packed up a
hundred guys. Yes, kays. When you're under arrest a rent,
I don't know how you get drants and come on,
but what's it all about? You'll know? Want me to
come and ask you? Well? Uh, do you mind if
(21:44):
I get my coat? Now?
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Twenty a minute? Semary our cut. What's the money?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's it?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
The guvernment co p Why not.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
With all these crimes? Sorry? Well now, uh may I
have my hat or do you think I have a
gun in ask oh? I need care for god?
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Jerry.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Oh, hey, we did have a gun in that hacket.
You see, Jerry would have been much better. They'd than
made a step off of a horse. You two are
pretty smart. Yeah, and we're getting swiney. Get moving, Chison,
get out of here. We'll have got him covered. Jerry,
what's the rest, brother? I'm in a hurry with all
these things I learned about the FBI on this case,
and now that I find myself still alive, I'm going
to pay a visit to dear all Washington. Come on, chats,
(22:22):
and I'm making a late for skulls. Well, Hubert Cotton
was tried and convicted. My brother, Jerry's an FBI in
school now only four weeks are over. He'll go back
to Midvale and keep the others on the port. You'll know,
(22:44):
like every other police officers, the FBI Laboratory stands ready
at all times.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
To aid local law enforcements.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
By bringing scientific methods and the results a more and
more effective fight against crimes. My men, exquipped with the
training of America.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Has the opera the best in the world.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yes,
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