Reid Carter returns from Eight Days of OJ to find celebrity chaos everywhere. Judge Subramanian calls Cassie Ventura a "brave survivor" after Diddy's sentencing, while she reveals moving her family out of New York fearing "swift retribution." Tyrese Gibson's four Cane Corsos mauled a neighbor's spaniel to death while he wasn't home. Fifteen-year-old Celeste Rivas Hernandez's body found decomposing in singer David's Tesla trunk after weeks parked in Hollywood Hills. Kim Kardashian and Kris Jenner sue Ray J for claiming federal RICO charges coming. Monday proves that while we covered the trial of the century, modern celebrity justice never stops.
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Callarogus Shark Media. Good morning, I'm Reed Carter. Monday, October sixth,
twenty twenty five. We just spent ten days examining how
Oj Simpson got away with murder thirty years ago. Now
we return to find that celebrity justice in twenty twenty
five is just as messy, just as complicated, and somehow
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involves Tyrese Gibson's dogs eating a neighbor's pet. Cassie Ventura
is hiding from Diddy. She moved her family out of
New York, changed her life, lives in fear of the
man who just got sentenced to four years for what
he did to her. The judge called her brave, she
calls herself terrified. Tyresee's four cane corsos decided a neighbor's
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spaniel looked delicious. The fast and furious Star wasn't even home.
His dogs traveled half a mile, murdered a pet, and
now Tyresee is facing animal cruelty. Charges year old girl
decomposed in David's tesla for weeks while it sat parked
on a Hollywood street. Nobody noticed until the towyard smelled
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death and Ray j thinks Kim Kardashian and Chris Jenner
are about to face rico charges. They think Ray J
is a delusional has been still bitter about a sex
tape from two thousand and seven. Lawyers are involved. Welcome
back from OJ week. This is Celebrity Trials, where apparently
nothing changed while we were gone Friday. We covered Diddy's
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sentencing in a breaking news episode fifty months, four years
in change for transportation to engage in prostitution. But what
we didn't cover was what happened after the judge handed
down that sentence, What the victim said, what the judge
said to them, and why Cassie Ventura is more afraid
now than she was before. Judge Aaron Subramanian looked directly
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at Cassie and the woman known as Jane after Saient
andcing didty. What he said matters not for Ditty, He's
going to federal prison regardless, but for every woman watching
who's ever been afraid to come forward against a powerful man.
To Miss Ventura and the other brave survivors that came forward,
I want to say, first, we heard you. We heard you.
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Three words that victims of powerful men rarely get to
hear from federal judges three words that acknowledge what it
cost Cassie to testify, what it cost Jane to describe
being assaulted as recently as June twenty twenty four, months
after Ditty's arrest, months after the world knew what he was.
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Subramanian continued, Jane and Cassie Ventura have been through abuse
and trauma. We couldn't imagine. I can only say your
families are proud of you, and your children will be
proud of you for coming to the court to tell
you what really happened. You weren't just talking to the jury.
You were talking to the women who feel powerless. That's
what this case was really about, not Didty, not his empire,
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not his fifty month sentence. It was about the women
who feel powerless, the women who watch men like Didty
operate for decades, untouched, protected by money and fame and
the knowledge that nobody will believe victims over celebrities. Cassie
did something remarkable. She filed that civil lawsuit in November
twenty twenty three. Opened the floodgates, made it possible for
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other women to come forward, made it possible for federal
prosecutors to build a case, made it possible for a
jury to convict him, but bravery has consequences. Cassie's lawyer,
Doug Wigdoor, issued a statement after the sentencing. While nothing
can undo the trauma caused by Combs, the sentence imposed
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today recognizes the impact of the serious offenses he committed.
We are confident that, with the support of her family
and friends, Miss Ventura will continue healing, knowing that her
bravery and fortitude have been an inspiration to so many Healing.
That's the word everyone uses when they don't want to
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say what's actually happening. Cassie isn't healing, She's hiding. Before sentencing,
Cassie wrote a letter to Judge Subramanian. The contents are devastating.
She moved her family out of the New York area,
changed her entire life, lives in constant fear of retribution.
Her words, My worries that Sean Comb's or his associates
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will come after me and my family is my reality.
I have, in fact, moved my family out of the
New York area and am keeping as private and quiet
as I possibly can, because I am so scared that
if he walks free, his first actions will be swift
retribution towards me and others who spoke up about his
abuse at trial. Swift retribution. That's what brave survivors get
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for being bre Not peace, not closure, not safety, just
fear and relocation and the knowledge that the man who
spent fifteen years abusing you might spend the next three
years in prison planning revenge. She continued, as much progress
as I have made in recovering from his abuse, I
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remain very much afraid of what he is capable of
and the malice he undoubtedly harbors towards me for having
the bravery to tell the truth. This is what celebrity
justice looks like for victims. Didty gets federal prison with
credit for time served. Cassie gets witness protection. Without the protection,
she gets to uproot her family and live in fear,
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while Ditty serves four years then walks back into his
money and his connections and his ability to find anyone
he wants to find. Deonte Nash, Ditty's former stylist, wrote
his own letter expressing the same fears. Multiple victims are
terrified of what happens when Ditty gets out, not if when,
because fifty months isn't forever, it's twenty twenty eight. It's
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before the next Olympics. It's soon enough that victims are
already planning their lives around his release date. Jane, the
woman assaulted in June twenty twenty four, described the abuse
in her victim impact statement. The psychological torture, the physical violence,
the knowledge that even after being raided by the FEDS,
even after the hotel video went viral, Ditty was still
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assaulting women because he thought he could. Here's the part
that makes me angry. Charret Hayes, the exotic male dancer
who testified at trial and goes by the punisher, told
TMZ he initially thought Didtty should get time served, just
walk after thirteen months, but after hearing the judge's reasoning,
he agreed with the sentence. The punisher participated in the
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so called freak offs. He was paid to have sex
with Cassie while Ditty watched and recorded. He testified about
what he saw and even he thought, maybe Didty had
suffered enough. That's the power of celebrity, that's the power
of image management. Did He taught business classes at MDC Brooklyn,
got letters from fellow inmates supporting him, created this narrative
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of rehabilitation and redemption, and it almost worked. Even witnesses
who saw what he did thought maybe four years was
too much, but Judge Subramanian saw through it. He told
Diddy directly, what strikes me about your claim that you
are remorseful is that you assaulted Jane in June twenty
twenty four, even after authorities executed search warrants, even after
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the hotel video was released, even after you gave an
apology on Instagram. That's not remorse. That's calculation. That's a
man who thought he could apologize his way out of
consequences while continuing to do exactly what he'd always done
Didty's defense attorney Brian Steele called the sentence Unamerican in
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his post sentencing statement. Unamerican, as if sending a convicted
abuser to federal for four years is somehow a violation
of constitutional principles. Steele argued that Ditty was sentenced for
conduct the jury acquitted him of. That because the jury
found him not guilty of sex trafficking and racketeering, the
judge shouldn't have considered those elements in sentencing. That's lawyer
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talk for ignore everything except the narrow technical charges. He
was convicted of. Pretend the fifteen years of abuse don't matter.
Pretend the pattern of violence don't matter. Pretend June twenty
twenty four assault doesn't matter. Just focus on two counts
of transportation for prostitution and forget the rest. Judge Subramanian
rejected that argument completely. He made clear that while Ditty
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was being sentenced for the man Act violations, the court
had to consider his entire history, the abuse, the violence,
the manipulation, the June twenty twenty four assault that proved.
Did he learned nothing from being caught? Fifty months plus
a five hundred thousand dollars fine plus five years of
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supervised release. After that's the price of fifteen years of exploitation,
of creating an empire built on coercion, of thinking money
makes you untouchable. Cassie Ventura paid a different price. She
paid with her safety, her peace of mind, her ability
to live without looking over her shoulder. She paid by
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moving her family away from everything they knew, because testifying
against Diddy meant becoming his target forever. The judge called
her brave. He's right, but bravery shouldn't require witness relocation.
Justice shouldn't mean victims spend the rest of their lives
afraid of the men they helped. Convict Sean Combs will
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be out before he's sixty, still rich, still connected, still
capable of finding anyone he wants to find. Meanwhile, Cassie
Ventura will spend those same years wondering if today is
the day he decides swift retribution is worth whatever time
he'd serve for it. That's celebrity justice. The defendant gets
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a say with an end date. The victims get a
life sentence of fear. We'll be right back with Tyrese
Gibson's killer dogs and the mystery death in David's Tesla.
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From celebrity abuse to celebrity negligence. Tyrese Gibson, star of
the Fast and Furious franchise, is now facing criminal charges
because his four Cane Corso dogs, decided to go hunting
in his Atlanta neighborhood. September eighteenth, just after ten pm,
a neighbor living half a mile from Gibson's house lets
their small spaniel out in their own yard. Five minutes later,
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they find their dog being mauled. Rushed to the veterinary hospital,
the dog doesn't survive. Four cane corsos. For those unfamiliar,
these are massive Italian mastiffs bred originally as war dogs
and for hunting wild boar. Each one can weigh over
one hundred pounds. Four of them against a small spaniel
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isn't a fight, it's a massacre. The dogs were then
spotted at another neighbor's house. That neighbor called police, terrified
to leave her home. Think about that. You're trapped in
your own house because four dogs that aren't yours are
outside your door and you just saw what they did
to the spaniel. Animal control officers responded and managed to
keep the dogs back while the neighbor got to her vehicle.
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But here's the problem. These weren't Gibson's dog's first offense.
They weren't even the first warning. Captain Nicole Dwyer of
the Fulton County Police made this point explicitly. Our priority
is the safety of the community, and when there's so
many incidents of dogs, especially large dogs like this, getting
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out and then killing an animal, you know what's next
a child? What's next a child? That's not hypothetical, that's
the logical progression. When you have four massive dogs repeatedly
escaping their property with a demonstrated willingness to attack. Gibson
had received multiple warnings before the September eighteenth attack. Police
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had attempted to cite him before, but Gibson wasn't at
his Atlanta home. This is the pattern of someone who
knows they have a problem and chooses to ignore it
until it becomes someone else's problem. After the attack, police
issued a search warrant for Gibson's property. On September twenty second,
Gibson and the dogs were not at the residence. He'd
already disappeared them. His attorney, Gave Banks, claims Gibson immediately
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made the difficult decision to rehome his dogs to a
safe and loving environment. Difficult decision. It's only difficult when
you wait until after your dogs kill a neighbor's pet.
It's only difficult when police are issuing search warrants instead
of receiving voluntary compliance. Banks also said Gibson extends his
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deepest condolences to the family who lost their beloved dog
to this tragic incident. Tragic incident, as if this was
some unavoidable accident, As if four large dogs don't escape
their property by accident, As if Gibson didn't have multiple
warnings that his dogs were dangerous. An arrest warrant was
issued for Gibson on charges of cruelty to animals. He
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was told to turn himself in by Friday. Friday morning,
five fifty nine am, Gibson was booked into Fulton County Jail,
released the same day on a twenty thousand dollars bond.
The Fulton County Sheriff's office confirmed they do not have
custody of the dogs. Gibson re homed them before police
could seize them. This is what bothers me about celebrity
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cases like this. Gibson had the resources to properly secure
four massive dogs, professional fencing, professional training, professional handlers if needed. Instead,
his dogs were apparently able to travel half a mile
from his property to murder a neighbor's pet. Captain Dwyer's
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question haunts this case. What's next a child, because that's
the progression. Dogs that kill other dogs often escalate to
attacking humans, especially children who might trigger prey drive or
appear threatening when they run or scream. Gibson posted a
video to Instagram after the warrant was issued. Didn't speak
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in the video, just showed clips of his dogs with
audio from the Breakfast Club podcast where hosts discussed his case.
That's peak celebrity crisis management. Don't address it directly, Let
your dogs look cute on camera, let other people defend you.
Never take actual responsibility. His attorney claims, Gibson is cooperating
fully with authorities to address and resolve this matter. Responsibly.
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Cooperating fully would have been preventing his dogs from escaping
in the first place. Cooperating fully would have been responding
to the multiple warnings before a dog died. This case
is still ongoing. Gibson faces cruelty to animals charges. The
neighbor who lost their spaniel is living with the trauma
of finding their pet torn apart. The other neighbors are
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living with the knowledge that Gibson's negligence could have killed
their children, and Gibson he's out on bond. His dogs
safely re home to an undisclosed location, probably getting ready
to film Fast and Furious forty seven or whatever number
they're on now. Tyrese Gibson's dogs killed an innocent animal
because Tyrese Gibson failed to properly contain them despite multiple warnings.
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That's not tragic, that's criminal. The charges reflect that. We'll
see if the sentence does too. Now to Los Angeles,
where the mystery deepens around fifteen year old Celeste Revas Hernandez,
whose decomposing body was found in the front trunk of
a Tesla registered to twenty year old recording artist David
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Anthony Burke, known professionally as David. We covered this case
briefly before the OJ Special, but new details have emerged
that make this situation even more disturbing and more confusing.
September eighth, Hollywood towyard workers notice a foul smell coming
from a twenty twenty three Tesla. They open the front
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trunk what Tesla calls the front and find Celeste's remains, decomposed.
She'd been there for weeks, but the timeline reveals systematic failure.
That tesla had been parked on Bluebird Avenue in the
Hollywood Hills, right where David had been living for several
weeks before being impounded. On August twenty seventh. The parking
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enforcement officer marked the vehicle, noting the position of its tires.
This is standard procedure for cars that might be violating
parking ordinances. September third, the same officer returned the tires
hadn't moved. The car had been sitting in the exact
same spot for at least a week. The officer issued
a citation for violating this seventy two hour parking ordinance
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September fifth. Two days after the citation, the tesla was
towed to the Hollywood impound lot. Three days later, September eighth,
workers discovered Celeste's body when the smell became overwhelming. Think
about that timeline. A fifteen year old girl was dead
in the front trunk of a car parked on a
residential street. For weeks, people walked past that car. Parking
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enforcement marked that car, nobody noticed until it was towed
to a lot where the smell couldn't be ignored anymore.
Celeste Revas Hernandez was from Lake Elsinore. She was in
the seventh grade, fifteen years old, and according to the
Riverside County Sheriff's Office, she'd been reported missing multiple times
in twenty twenty four, multiple times. This wasn't a girl
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who disappeared once. This was a girl whose family kept
losing her, and getting her back and losing her again.
ABC News obtained call logs for Celeste's home, showing numerous
calls from twenty twenty two through this year. Deputies visited
multiple times over several years. Many of the visits are
marked FU for follow up, meaning they weren't response to
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emergency calls, but part of ongoing monitoring. This is a
system failure deputies knew about Celeste visited her home repeatedly.
She was reported missing multiple times just this year, and
still she ended up dead in a trunk on a
Hollywood street while the car sat ticketed and towed, with
nobody noticing what was inside. The Los Angeles County Medical
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Examiner still hasn't determined cause or manner of death. The
death certificate lists it as deferred. They're waiting on lab
tests and toxicology reports until then. This remains officially a
death investigation, not a homicide investigation. The death certificate also
notes something significant Celeste was not and had not been
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pregnant in the last year. This matters because speculation had
swirled about whether pregnancy might have been a factor in
whatever happened. The LAPD released a statement acknowledging the complexity.
The vehicle had been parked at the location from which
it was towed for several weeks, so Miss Revas Hernandez
may have been deceased for several weeks before the discovery
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of her body. The Los Angeles County Medical Examiner has
not yet determined the cause or manner of Miss Revas
Hernandez's death. As such, it remains unclear whether there is
any criminal culpability beyond the concealment of her body. Beyond
the concealment of her body, that phrase matters at minimums.
Someone concealed a fifteen year old's body in a car trunk.
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That's a crime, regardless of how she died. But was
it murder, overdose, something else? Nobody knows yet. David hasn't
been named as a suspect. Police emphasized that no arrests
have been made and no charges have been filed, but
detectives did execute a search of a Hollywood Hills home
where David had recently been staying. They removed evidence, including
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a computer. The lease on that home had been broken early,
and David had already moved out by the time police arrived.
This is where the case gets darker. Fans started examining
David's music videos after news of Celeste's death broke. One
video shows what appears to be a blindfolded David in
a bloodied shirt standing by as two people put a
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body into the trunk of a car. Another video depicts
a girl's arm being cut off. Are these videos evidence
or just dark artistic expression. That's for investigators to determine.
Plenty of musicians make violent, graphic videos that have nothing
to do with their real lives, But when a real
fifteen year old ends up dead in your real car trunk,
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those artistic choices get scrutinized differently. The family held a
memorial service for Celeste this past Saturday. A fifteen year
old girl who should be in eighth grade, now preparing
for high school, thinking about normal teenager things. Instead, her
family is burying what's left of her after weeks decomposing
in a Tesla trunk. Here's what we know for certain.
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Celeste was a runaway multiple times, the system knew about her.
Deputies visited her home repeatedly. She was reported missing multiple
times in twenty twenty four alone, and somehow, despite all
that attention, she ended up dead in a car that
sat parked for weeks in a residential neighborhood where David lived.
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What we don't know how she died, when exactly she died,
how she ended up in that trunk, whether David had
anything to do with it, whether anyone had anything to
do with it, or if this was somehow a tragic
accident or overdose followed by panic and concealment. The LAPD
promises they're examining every aspect of this case. They're waiting
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on the medical examiner to determine cause and manner of death.
They're analyzing whatever evidence they took from that Hollywood Hills house.
But Celeste's family isn't waiting for answers to grieve. They're
living with the knowledge that their fifteen year old daughter
was reported missing multiple times, that deputies knew about her situation,
that she was on the system's radar, and still ended
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up dead in a trunk while the car got ticketed
for overstaying its parking welcome. Celeste Reevas Hernandez deserved better.
She deserved a system that protected her instead of just
documenting her disappearances. She deserved to be more than a
foul smell that finally got noticed at a tow yard.
She was fifteen years old. Remember that when the toxicology
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comes back, when the cause of death is determined, when
charges are filed or not filed. Remember she was fifteen
in the seventh grade, with a whole life ahead of
her that ended decomposing in a Tesla Fronk while people
walked past. For weeks more in a moment, and finally,
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because apparently we haven't had enough celebrity chaos for one episode,
Kim Kardashian and Chris Jenner are suing ray J for
claiming they're about to face federal Riico charges. Yes, the
same Rico charges we just watched Ditty beat at trial,
the charges that carried decades in prison and require proving
a pattern of racketeering activity. Ray J thinks Kim and
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Chris are running a criminal enterprise. They think ray J
is delusional. The lawsuit was filed Wednesday in Los Angeles
Superior Court. It's aggressive, fast, and designed to shut down
ray J before his claims gain any more traction. Kim
and Chris are represented by Alex Spiro, the lawyer who
got Alec Baldwin's charges dismissed mid trial. They're not playing around.
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Here's ray Ja's claim he's working with federal investigators on
a racketeering case against the Kardashians that will soon lead
to their indictment. He says the Feds are coming. He
says it's going to be bigger than Diddy. Here's what
Kim and Chris say Ja is lying. No federal investigation exists,
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No law enforcement agency has initiated any criminal proceedings. Ray
J is a bitter ex boyfriend who can't accept that
his relationship with Kim ended over twenty years ago. The
lawsuit describes ray J's behavior as a sustained campaign of
harassment and defamation that's gone on for years. They argue
he's repeatedly tried to attach himself to their names and
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exploit their prominence for personal gain, but two recent statements
crossed a line. In May, during a TMZ special, ray
J said racketeering charges against the Kardashians would be appropriate,
and if you told me that the Kardashians were being
charged for racketeering, I might believe it. That's speculative, that's opinion,
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that's probably protected speech under the First Amendment. But then
came the September thirtieth live stream. Millions of viewers watched
as ray J declared, the federal rico I'm about to
draw up on Chris and Kim is about to be crazy,
and the Feds is coming. He said the case would
be worse than Diddy. That's not speculation anymore, that's a
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factual claim. Ray J is asserting that he has knowledge
of a federal rico case, that he's working with investigators,
that charges are imminent, and according to Kim and Chris's lawsuit,
all of that is completely false. No such federal investigation exists,
no law enforcement agency has initiated any criminal proceedings or
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investigations related to racketeering charges against Mis Kardashian or Mis Jenner,
and no credible evidence whatsoever supports these inflammatory allegations. The
lawsuit states, ray J probably remains best known for his
relationship with Kim Kardashian and the sex tape that leaked
in two thousand and seven. That tape arguably launched the
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Kardashian empire. Kim turned personal humiliation into a billion dollar brand.
Ray J turned his connection to Kim into a career
talking about his connection to Kim. The lawsuit addresses this directly.
Ray Jay's acknowledged animosity toward the Kardashian family, coupled with
his demonstrated willingness to lie for attention, leaves no room
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for doubt that his recent reco statements were neither careless
nor impulsive. They were the latest salvo in a deliberate
and malicious campaign of harassment and defamation intended to defame
plaintiffs while reviving his own fading notoriety. Fading notoriety, that's
the key phrase. Ray J is a singer and actor
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brother to pop star Brandy, but his career has largely
coasted on his connection to the Kardashians. He's been dining
out on that sex tape for nearly twenty years now.
He's claiming federal rico charges to stay relevant. The Kardashians
are seeking reputational and financial damages to be established at trial.
They want money, They want ray J to stop. They
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want to send a message that you can't just claim
federal and vents instigations exist when they don't. Here's what
makes this case interesting from a legal standpoint. Defamation law
requires proving that the statement is false and made with
knowledge of its falsity or reckless disregard for the truth.
Ray J claiming a federal rico case exists when no
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federal rico case exists, seems pretty straightforward. But ray J
could argue he genuinely believes something fishy is happening with
the Kardashians. He could claim he's working with private investigators,
not federal investigators. He could walk back the feds's coming
statement as hyperbole. He could argue that his statements were opinion,
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not fact. The problem is he was specific federal rico
the FEDS about to drop. Those aren't vague allegations. Those
are concrete, factual claims that are either true or false.
And if they're false, and ray J knew they were false,
that's textbook defamation. Kim and Chris have Alex Zero as
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their lawyer. Spiro just got Alec Baldwin acquitted mid trial
by getting charges dismissed over prosecutorial misconduct. He knows how
to win. He knows how to make defendants wish they'd
never filed the case in the first place. Ray J
hasn't responded yet. His representatives didn't immediately answer emails seeking comment.
He's probably talking to lawyers right now trying to figure
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out how he proves federal rico charges exist. When no
federal rico charges exist. This is celebrity litigation at its
most petty and most necessary. Petty because it stems from
a relationship that ended in the early two thousands and
a sex tape from two thousand and seven. Necessary because
you can't let people claim federal indictments are coming when
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no federal indictments are coming. The Kardashians built their empire
on careful image management. Every scandal gets spun, every controversy
gets controlled. They're not going to let ray Ja, of
all people, damage that image by claiming they're about to
face rico charges. Ray J thought he could gain attention
by connecting himself to the Ditty case. Look what happened
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to Ditty Now imagine it happening to the Kardashians, except
nothing is happening to the Kardashians except a defamation lawsuit
against ray J. This case will probably settle. Ray J
will issue some statement about how he was speaking generally
or was misinformed, or whatever excuse his lawyer's craft. The
Kardashians will get money and an agreement that RAYJ stops
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talking about federal investigations that don't exist. But for now,
it's one more celebrity lawsuit in a Monday morning already
packed with celebrity chaos. From Ditty's victims living in fear,
to Tyresee's killer dogs, to a fifteen year old decomposing
in a Tesla to Rayj's rico fantasies. Celebrity justice never stops.
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Welcome back from OJ week. We didn't miss anything except
everything that's Celebrity trials from Monday, October sixth, twenty twenty five.
Cassie ventur Ura is living in hiding, afraid of Ditty's
swift retribution after being brave enough to testify. Her reward
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for stopping a predator is a life sentence of fear
while he serves four years. Tyrese Gibson's dogs killed a
neighbor's pet after multiple warnings he's out on bond. The
dogs are rehomed to an undisclosed location. The dead spaniel
can't be rehomed anywhere. Celeste Reevas Hernandez was fifteen when
she ended up dead in a Tesla trunk. The system
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knew about her, deputies visited her home repeatedly, she was
reported missing multiple times, and still she decomposed on a
Hollywood street for weeks while the car got a parking ticket.
Ray J thinks Kim Kardashian and Chris Jenner are facing
federal rico charges. Kim and Chris think ray J is
a delusional ex who can't move on. Lawyers will determine
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which version of reality is accurate. I'm read Carter. After
ten days examining how celebrity justice failed thirty years ago,
we returned to find that celebrity justice is still failing
in new and creative ways. Victims still live in fear,
negligence still gets excused, dead, teenagers still get ignored, and
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bitter exes still make wild accusations for attention. Some things
never change, The names change, the cases change, but celebrity
justice remains exactly what it was when OJ walked free
in nineteen ninety five. A system where fame matters more
than facts, money matters more than evidence, and ordinary people
pay the price for extraordinary privilege. See you tomorrow with
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whatever fresh chaos America's celebrities produce overnight. Lock your doors,
watch your dogs, and maybe don't end up in anyone's
Tesla trunk
Callarogus Shark Media. Good morning, I'm Reed Carter. Monday, October sixth,
twenty twenty five. We just spent ten days examining how
Oj Simpson got away with murder thirty years ago. Now
we return to find that celebrity justice in twenty twenty
five is just as messy, just as complicated, and somehow
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involves Tyrese Gibson's dogs eating a neighbor's pet. Cassie Ventura
is hiding from Diddy. She moved her family out of
New York, changed her life, lives in fear of the
man who just got sentenced to four years for what
he did to her. The judge called her brave, she
calls herself terrified. Tyresee's four cane corsos decided a neighbor's
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spaniel looked delicious. The fast and furious Star wasn't even home.
His dogs traveled half a mile, murdered a pet, and
now Tyresee is facing animal cruelty. Charges year old girl
decomposed in David's tesla for weeks while it sat parked
on a Hollywood street. Nobody noticed until the towyard smelled
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death and Ray j thinks Kim Kardashian and Chris Jenner
are about to face rico charges. They think Ray J
is a delusional has been still bitter about a sex
tape from two thousand and seven. Lawyers are involved. Welcome
back from OJ week. This is Celebrity Trials, where apparently
nothing changed while we were gone Friday. We covered Diddy's
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sentencing in a breaking news episode fifty months, four years
in change for transportation to engage in prostitution. But what
we didn't cover was what happened after the judge handed
down that sentence, What the victim said, what the judge
said to them, and why Cassie Ventura is more afraid
now than she was before. Judge Aaron Subramanian looked directly
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at Cassie and the woman known as Jane after Saient
andcing didty. What he said matters not for Ditty, He's
going to federal prison regardless, but for every woman watching
who's ever been afraid to come forward against a powerful man.
To Miss Ventura and the other brave survivors that came forward,
I want to say, first, we heard you. We heard you.
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Three words that victims of powerful men rarely get to
hear from federal judges three words that acknowledge what it
cost Cassie to testify, what it cost Jane to describe
being assaulted as recently as June twenty twenty four, months
after Ditty's arrest, months after the world knew what he was.
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Subramanian continued, Jane and Cassie Ventura have been through abuse
and trauma. We couldn't imagine. I can only say your
families are proud of you, and your children will be
proud of you for coming to the court to tell
you what really happened. You weren't just talking to the jury.
You were talking to the women who feel powerless. That's
what this case was really about, not Didty, not his empire,
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not his fifty month sentence. It was about the women
who feel powerless, the women who watch men like Didty
operate for decades, untouched, protected by money and fame and
the knowledge that nobody will believe victims over celebrities. Cassie
did something remarkable. She filed that civil lawsuit in November
twenty twenty three. Opened the floodgates, made it possible for
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other women to come forward, made it possible for federal
prosecutors to build a case, made it possible for a
jury to convict him, but bravery has consequences. Cassie's lawyer,
Doug Wigdoor, issued a statement after the sentencing. While nothing
can undo the trauma caused by Combs, the sentence imposed
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today recognizes the impact of the serious offenses he committed.
We are confident that, with the support of her family
and friends, Miss Ventura will continue healing, knowing that her
bravery and fortitude have been an inspiration to so many Healing.
That's the word everyone uses when they don't want to
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say what's actually happening. Cassie isn't healing, She's hiding. Before sentencing,
Cassie wrote a letter to Judge Subramanian. The contents are devastating.
She moved her family out of the New York area,
changed her entire life, lives in constant fear of retribution.
Her words, My worries that Sean Comb's or his associates
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will come after me and my family is my reality.
I have, in fact, moved my family out of the
New York area and am keeping as private and quiet
as I possibly can, because I am so scared that
if he walks free, his first actions will be swift
retribution towards me and others who spoke up about his
abuse at trial. Swift retribution. That's what brave survivors get
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for being bre Not peace, not closure, not safety, just
fear and relocation and the knowledge that the man who
spent fifteen years abusing you might spend the next three
years in prison planning revenge. She continued, as much progress
as I have made in recovering from his abuse, I
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remain very much afraid of what he is capable of
and the malice he undoubtedly harbors towards me for having
the bravery to tell the truth. This is what celebrity
justice looks like for victims. Didty gets federal prison with
credit for time served. Cassie gets witness protection. Without the protection,
she gets to uproot her family and live in fear,
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while Ditty serves four years then walks back into his
money and his connections and his ability to find anyone
he wants to find. Deonte Nash, Ditty's former stylist, wrote
his own letter expressing the same fears. Multiple victims are
terrified of what happens when Ditty gets out, not if when,
because fifty months isn't forever, it's twenty twenty eight. It's
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before the next Olympics. It's soon enough that victims are
already planning their lives around his release date. Jane, the
woman assaulted in June twenty twenty four, described the abuse
in her victim impact statement. The psychological torture, the physical violence,
the knowledge that even after being raided by the FEDS,
even after the hotel video went viral, Ditty was still
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assaulting women because he thought he could. Here's the part
that makes me angry. Charret Hayes, the exotic male dancer
who testified at trial and goes by the punisher, told
TMZ he initially thought Didtty should get time served, just
walk after thirteen months, but after hearing the judge's reasoning,
he agreed with the sentence. The punisher participated in the
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so called freak offs. He was paid to have sex
with Cassie while Ditty watched and recorded. He testified about
what he saw and even he thought, maybe Didty had
suffered enough. That's the power of celebrity, that's the power
of image management. Did He taught business classes at MDC Brooklyn,
got letters from fellow inmates supporting him, created this narrative
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of rehabilitation and redemption, and it almost worked. Even witnesses
who saw what he did thought maybe four years was
too much, but Judge Subramanian saw through it. He told
Diddy directly, what strikes me about your claim that you
are remorseful is that you assaulted Jane in June twenty
twenty four, even after authorities executed search warrants, even after
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the hotel video was released, even after you gave an
apology on Instagram. That's not remorse. That's calculation. That's a
man who thought he could apologize his way out of
consequences while continuing to do exactly what he'd always done
Didty's defense attorney Brian Steele called the sentence Unamerican in
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his post sentencing statement. Unamerican, as if sending a convicted
abuser to federal for four years is somehow a violation
of constitutional principles. Steele argued that Ditty was sentenced for
conduct the jury acquitted him of. That because the jury
found him not guilty of sex trafficking and racketeering, the
judge shouldn't have considered those elements in sentencing. That's lawyer
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talk for ignore everything except the narrow technical charges. He
was convicted of. Pretend the fifteen years of abuse don't matter.
Pretend the pattern of violence don't matter. Pretend June twenty
twenty four assault doesn't matter. Just focus on two counts
of transportation for prostitution and forget the rest. Judge Subramanian
rejected that argument completely. He made clear that while Ditty
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was being sentenced for the man Act violations, the court
had to consider his entire history, the abuse, the violence,
the manipulation, the June twenty twenty four assault that proved.
Did he learned nothing from being caught? Fifty months plus
a five hundred thousand dollars fine plus five years of
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supervised release. After that's the price of fifteen years of exploitation,
of creating an empire built on coercion, of thinking money
makes you untouchable. Cassie Ventura paid a different price. She
paid with her safety, her peace of mind, her ability
to live without looking over her shoulder. She paid by
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moving her family away from everything they knew, because testifying
against Diddy meant becoming his target forever. The judge called
her brave. He's right, but bravery shouldn't require witness relocation.
Justice shouldn't mean victims spend the rest of their lives
afraid of the men they helped. Convict Sean Combs will
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be out before he's sixty, still rich, still connected, still
capable of finding anyone he wants to find. Meanwhile, Cassie
Ventura will spend those same years wondering if today is
the day he decides swift retribution is worth whatever time
he'd serve for it. That's celebrity justice. The defendant gets
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a say with an end date. The victims get a
life sentence of fear. We'll be right back with Tyrese
Gibson's killer dogs and the mystery death in David's Tesla.
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From celebrity abuse to celebrity negligence. Tyrese Gibson, star of
the Fast and Furious franchise, is now facing criminal charges
because his four Cane Corso dogs, decided to go hunting
in his Atlanta neighborhood. September eighteenth, just after ten pm,
a neighbor living half a mile from Gibson's house lets
their small spaniel out in their own yard. Five minutes later,
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they find their dog being mauled. Rushed to the veterinary hospital,
the dog doesn't survive. Four cane corsos. For those unfamiliar,
these are massive Italian mastiffs bred originally as war dogs
and for hunting wild boar. Each one can weigh over
one hundred pounds. Four of them against a small spaniel
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isn't a fight, it's a massacre. The dogs were then
spotted at another neighbor's house. That neighbor called police, terrified
to leave her home. Think about that. You're trapped in
your own house because four dogs that aren't yours are
outside your door and you just saw what they did
to the spaniel. Animal control officers responded and managed to
keep the dogs back while the neighbor got to her vehicle.
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But here's the problem. These weren't Gibson's dog's first offense.
They weren't even the first warning. Captain Nicole Dwyer of
the Fulton County Police made this point explicitly. Our priority
is the safety of the community, and when there's so
many incidents of dogs, especially large dogs like this, getting
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out and then killing an animal, you know what's next
a child? What's next a child? That's not hypothetical, that's
the logical progression. When you have four massive dogs repeatedly
escaping their property with a demonstrated willingness to attack. Gibson
had received multiple warnings before the September eighteenth attack. Police
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had attempted to cite him before, but Gibson wasn't at
his Atlanta home. This is the pattern of someone who
knows they have a problem and chooses to ignore it
until it becomes someone else's problem. After the attack, police
issued a search warrant for Gibson's property. On September twenty second,
Gibson and the dogs were not at the residence. He'd
already disappeared them. His attorney, Gave Banks, claims Gibson immediately
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made the difficult decision to rehome his dogs to a
safe and loving environment. Difficult decision. It's only difficult when
you wait until after your dogs kill a neighbor's pet.
It's only difficult when police are issuing search warrants instead
of receiving voluntary compliance. Banks also said Gibson extends his
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deepest condolences to the family who lost their beloved dog
to this tragic incident. Tragic incident, as if this was
some unavoidable accident, As if four large dogs don't escape
their property by accident, As if Gibson didn't have multiple
warnings that his dogs were dangerous. An arrest warrant was
issued for Gibson on charges of cruelty to animals. He
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was told to turn himself in by Friday. Friday morning,
five fifty nine am, Gibson was booked into Fulton County Jail,
released the same day on a twenty thousand dollars bond.
The Fulton County Sheriff's office confirmed they do not have
custody of the dogs. Gibson re homed them before police
could seize them. This is what bothers me about celebrity
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cases like this. Gibson had the resources to properly secure
four massive dogs, professional fencing, professional training, professional handlers if needed. Instead,
his dogs were apparently able to travel half a mile
from his property to murder a neighbor's pet. Captain Dwyer's
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question haunts this case. What's next a child, because that's
the progression. Dogs that kill other dogs often escalate to
attacking humans, especially children who might trigger prey drive or
appear threatening when they run or scream. Gibson posted a
video to Instagram after the warrant was issued. Didn't speak
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in the video, just showed clips of his dogs with
audio from the Breakfast Club podcast where hosts discussed his case.
That's peak celebrity crisis management. Don't address it directly, Let
your dogs look cute on camera, let other people defend you.
Never take actual responsibility. His attorney claims, Gibson is cooperating
fully with authorities to address and resolve this matter. Responsibly.
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Cooperating fully would have been preventing his dogs from escaping
in the first place. Cooperating fully would have been responding
to the multiple warnings before a dog died. This case
is still ongoing. Gibson faces cruelty to animals charges. The
neighbor who lost their spaniel is living with the trauma
of finding their pet torn apart. The other neighbors are
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living with the knowledge that Gibson's negligence could have killed
their children, and Gibson he's out on bond. His dogs
safely re home to an undisclosed location, probably getting ready
to film Fast and Furious forty seven or whatever number
they're on now. Tyrese Gibson's dogs killed an innocent animal
because Tyrese Gibson failed to properly contain them despite multiple warnings.
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That's not tragic, that's criminal. The charges reflect that. We'll
see if the sentence does too. Now to Los Angeles,
where the mystery deepens around fifteen year old Celeste Revas Hernandez,
whose decomposing body was found in the front trunk of
a Tesla registered to twenty year old recording artist David
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Anthony Burke, known professionally as David. We covered this case
briefly before the OJ Special, but new details have emerged
that make this situation even more disturbing and more confusing.
September eighth, Hollywood towyard workers notice a foul smell coming
from a twenty twenty three Tesla. They open the front
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trunk what Tesla calls the front and find Celeste's remains, decomposed.
She'd been there for weeks, but the timeline reveals systematic failure.
That tesla had been parked on Bluebird Avenue in the
Hollywood Hills, right where David had been living for several
weeks before being impounded. On August twenty seventh. The parking
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enforcement officer marked the vehicle, noting the position of its tires.
This is standard procedure for cars that might be violating
parking ordinances. September third, the same officer returned the tires
hadn't moved. The car had been sitting in the exact
same spot for at least a week. The officer issued
a citation for violating this seventy two hour parking ordinance
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September fifth. Two days after the citation, the tesla was
towed to the Hollywood impound lot. Three days later, September eighth,
workers discovered Celeste's body when the smell became overwhelming. Think
about that timeline. A fifteen year old girl was dead
in the front trunk of a car parked on a
residential street. For weeks, people walked past that car. Parking
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enforcement marked that car, nobody noticed until it was towed
to a lot where the smell couldn't be ignored anymore.
Celeste Revas Hernandez was from Lake Elsinore. She was in
the seventh grade, fifteen years old, and according to the
Riverside County Sheriff's Office, she'd been reported missing multiple times
in twenty twenty four, multiple times. This wasn't a girl
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who disappeared once. This was a girl whose family kept
losing her, and getting her back and losing her again.
ABC News obtained call logs for Celeste's home, showing numerous
calls from twenty twenty two through this year. Deputies visited
multiple times over several years. Many of the visits are
marked FU for follow up, meaning they weren't response to
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emergency calls, but part of ongoing monitoring. This is a
system failure deputies knew about Celeste visited her home repeatedly.
She was reported missing multiple times just this year, and
still she ended up dead in a trunk on a
Hollywood street while the car sat ticketed and towed, with
nobody noticing what was inside. The Los Angeles County Medical
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Examiner still hasn't determined cause or manner of death. The
death certificate lists it as deferred. They're waiting on lab
tests and toxicology reports until then. This remains officially a
death investigation, not a homicide investigation. The death certificate also
notes something significant Celeste was not and had not been
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pregnant in the last year. This matters because speculation had
swirled about whether pregnancy might have been a factor in
whatever happened. The LAPD released a statement acknowledging the complexity.
The vehicle had been parked at the location from which
it was towed for several weeks, so Miss Revas Hernandez
may have been deceased for several weeks before the discovery
(19:15):
of her body. The Los Angeles County Medical Examiner has
not yet determined the cause or manner of Miss Revas
Hernandez's death. As such, it remains unclear whether there is
any criminal culpability beyond the concealment of her body. Beyond
the concealment of her body, that phrase matters at minimums.
Someone concealed a fifteen year old's body in a car trunk.
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That's a crime, regardless of how she died. But was
it murder, overdose, something else? Nobody knows yet. David hasn't
been named as a suspect. Police emphasized that no arrests
have been made and no charges have been filed, but
detectives did execute a search of a Hollywood Hills home
where David had recently been staying. They removed evidence, including
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a computer. The lease on that home had been broken early,
and David had already moved out by the time police arrived.
This is where the case gets darker. Fans started examining
David's music videos after news of Celeste's death broke. One
video shows what appears to be a blindfolded David in
a bloodied shirt standing by as two people put a
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body into the trunk of a car. Another video depicts
a girl's arm being cut off. Are these videos evidence
or just dark artistic expression. That's for investigators to determine.
Plenty of musicians make violent, graphic videos that have nothing
to do with their real lives, But when a real
fifteen year old ends up dead in your real car trunk,
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those artistic choices get scrutinized differently. The family held a
memorial service for Celeste this past Saturday. A fifteen year
old girl who should be in eighth grade, now preparing
for high school, thinking about normal teenager things. Instead, her
family is burying what's left of her after weeks decomposing
in a Tesla trunk. Here's what we know for certain.
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Celeste was a runaway multiple times, the system knew about her.
Deputies visited her home repeatedly. She was reported missing multiple
times in twenty twenty four alone, and somehow, despite all
that attention, she ended up dead in a car that
sat parked for weeks in a residential neighborhood where David lived.
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What we don't know how she died, when exactly she died,
how she ended up in that trunk, whether David had
anything to do with it, whether anyone had anything to
do with it, or if this was somehow a tragic
accident or overdose followed by panic and concealment. The LAPD
promises they're examining every aspect of this case. They're waiting
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on the medical examiner to determine cause and manner of death.
They're analyzing whatever evidence they took from that Hollywood Hills house.
But Celeste's family isn't waiting for answers to grieve. They're
living with the knowledge that their fifteen year old daughter
was reported missing multiple times, that deputies knew about her situation,
that she was on the system's radar, and still ended
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up dead in a trunk while the car got ticketed
for overstaying its parking welcome. Celeste Reevas Hernandez deserved better.
She deserved a system that protected her instead of just
documenting her disappearances. She deserved to be more than a
foul smell that finally got noticed at a tow yard.
She was fifteen years old. Remember that when the toxicology
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comes back, when the cause of death is determined, when
charges are filed or not filed. Remember she was fifteen
in the seventh grade, with a whole life ahead of
her that ended decomposing in a Tesla Fronk while people
walked past. For weeks more in a moment, and finally,
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because apparently we haven't had enough celebrity chaos for one episode,
Kim Kardashian and Chris Jenner are suing ray J for
claiming they're about to face federal Riico charges. Yes, the
same Rico charges we just watched Ditty beat at trial,
the charges that carried decades in prison and require proving
a pattern of racketeering activity. Ray J thinks Kim and
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Chris are running a criminal enterprise. They think ray J
is delusional. The lawsuit was filed Wednesday in Los Angeles
Superior Court. It's aggressive, fast, and designed to shut down
ray J before his claims gain any more traction. Kim
and Chris are represented by Alex Spiro, the lawyer who
got Alec Baldwin's charges dismissed mid trial. They're not playing around.
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Here's ray Ja's claim he's working with federal investigators on
a racketeering case against the Kardashians that will soon lead
to their indictment. He says the Feds are coming. He
says it's going to be bigger than Diddy. Here's what
Kim and Chris say Ja is lying. No federal investigation exists,
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No law enforcement agency has initiated any criminal proceedings. Ray
J is a bitter ex boyfriend who can't accept that
his relationship with Kim ended over twenty years ago. The
lawsuit describes ray J's behavior as a sustained campaign of
harassment and defamation that's gone on for years. They argue
he's repeatedly tried to attach himself to their names and
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exploit their prominence for personal gain, but two recent statements
crossed a line. In May, during a TMZ special, ray
J said racketeering charges against the Kardashians would be appropriate,
and if you told me that the Kardashians were being
charged for racketeering, I might believe it. That's speculative, that's opinion,
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that's probably protected speech under the First Amendment. But then
came the September thirtieth live stream. Millions of viewers watched
as ray J declared, the federal rico I'm about to
draw up on Chris and Kim is about to be crazy,
and the Feds is coming. He said the case would
be worse than Diddy. That's not speculation anymore, that's a
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factual claim. Ray J is asserting that he has knowledge
of a federal rico case, that he's working with investigators,
that charges are imminent, and according to Kim and Chris's lawsuit,
all of that is completely false. No such federal investigation exists,
no law enforcement agency has initiated any criminal proceedings or
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investigations related to racketeering charges against Mis Kardashian or Mis Jenner,
and no credible evidence whatsoever supports these inflammatory allegations. The
lawsuit states, ray J probably remains best known for his
relationship with Kim Kardashian and the sex tape that leaked
in two thousand and seven. That tape arguably launched the
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Kardashian empire. Kim turned personal humiliation into a billion dollar brand.
Ray J turned his connection to Kim into a career
talking about his connection to Kim. The lawsuit addresses this directly.
Ray Jay's acknowledged animosity toward the Kardashian family, coupled with
his demonstrated willingness to lie for attention, leaves no room
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for doubt that his recent reco statements were neither careless
nor impulsive. They were the latest salvo in a deliberate
and malicious campaign of harassment and defamation intended to defame
plaintiffs while reviving his own fading notoriety. Fading notoriety, that's
the key phrase. Ray J is a singer and actor
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brother to pop star Brandy, but his career has largely
coasted on his connection to the Kardashians. He's been dining
out on that sex tape for nearly twenty years now.
He's claiming federal rico charges to stay relevant. The Kardashians
are seeking reputational and financial damages to be established at trial.
They want money, They want ray J to stop. They
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want to send a message that you can't just claim
federal and vents instigations exist when they don't. Here's what
makes this case interesting from a legal standpoint. Defamation law
requires proving that the statement is false and made with
knowledge of its falsity or reckless disregard for the truth.
Ray J claiming a federal rico case exists when no
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federal rico case exists, seems pretty straightforward. But ray J
could argue he genuinely believes something fishy is happening with
the Kardashians. He could claim he's working with private investigators,
not federal investigators. He could walk back the feds's coming
statement as hyperbole. He could argue that his statements were opinion,
(27:39):
not fact. The problem is he was specific federal rico
the FEDS about to drop. Those aren't vague allegations. Those
are concrete, factual claims that are either true or false.
And if they're false, and ray J knew they were false,
that's textbook defamation. Kim and Chris have Alex Zero as
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their lawyer. Spiro just got Alec Baldwin acquitted mid trial
by getting charges dismissed over prosecutorial misconduct. He knows how
to win. He knows how to make defendants wish they'd
never filed the case in the first place. Ray J
hasn't responded yet. His representatives didn't immediately answer emails seeking comment.
He's probably talking to lawyers right now trying to figure
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out how he proves federal rico charges exist. When no
federal rico charges exist. This is celebrity litigation at its
most petty and most necessary. Petty because it stems from
a relationship that ended in the early two thousands and
a sex tape from two thousand and seven. Necessary because
you can't let people claim federal indictments are coming when
(28:43):
no federal indictments are coming. The Kardashians built their empire
on careful image management. Every scandal gets spun, every controversy
gets controlled. They're not going to let ray Ja, of
all people, damage that image by claiming they're about to
face rico charges. Ray J thought he could gain attention
by connecting himself to the Ditty case. Look what happened
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to Ditty Now imagine it happening to the Kardashians, except
nothing is happening to the Kardashians except a defamation lawsuit
against ray J. This case will probably settle. Ray J
will issue some statement about how he was speaking generally
or was misinformed, or whatever excuse his lawyer's craft. The
Kardashians will get money and an agreement that RAYJ stops
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talking about federal investigations that don't exist. But for now,
it's one more celebrity lawsuit in a Monday morning already
packed with celebrity chaos. From Ditty's victims living in fear,
to Tyresee's killer dogs, to a fifteen year old decomposing
in a Tesla to Rayj's rico fantasies. Celebrity justice never stops.
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Welcome back from OJ week. We didn't miss anything except
everything that's Celebrity trials from Monday, October sixth, twenty twenty five.
Cassie ventur Ura is living in hiding, afraid of Ditty's
swift retribution after being brave enough to testify. Her reward
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for stopping a predator is a life sentence of fear
while he serves four years. Tyrese Gibson's dogs killed a
neighbor's pet after multiple warnings he's out on bond. The
dogs are rehomed to an undisclosed location. The dead spaniel
can't be rehomed anywhere. Celeste Reevas Hernandez was fifteen when
she ended up dead in a Tesla trunk. The system
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knew about her, deputies visited her home repeatedly, she was
reported missing multiple times, and still she decomposed on a
Hollywood street for weeks while the car got a parking ticket.
Ray J thinks Kim Kardashian and Chris Jenner are facing
federal rico charges. Kim and Chris think ray J is
a delusional ex who can't move on. Lawyers will determine
(30:49):
which version of reality is accurate. I'm read Carter. After
ten days examining how celebrity justice failed thirty years ago,
we returned to find that celebrity justice is still failing
in new and creative ways. Victims still live in fear,
negligence still gets excused, dead, teenagers still get ignored, and
(31:09):
bitter exes still make wild accusations for attention. Some things
never change, The names change, the cases change, but celebrity
justice remains exactly what it was when OJ walked free
in nineteen ninety five. A system where fame matters more
than facts, money matters more than evidence, and ordinary people
pay the price for extraordinary privilege. See you tomorrow with
(31:32):
whatever fresh chaos America's celebrities produce overnight. Lock your doors,
watch your dogs, and maybe don't end up in anyone's
Tesla trunk
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