All Stars: Rivals - The Finale!!!!

The two-part finale is here! We go over both parts and give our thoughts on how things shake out.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:20):
May everybody look back to another episode of Challenge, the
podcast all about the Challenge. It is finale night. I'm
talking about two episodes this week, as we do. In
the finale rears its ugly head. As always, I am
Brian sitting in his non blurred background, drinking whiskey.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I'm assuming absolutely celebration tonight.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
And everyone loves it when I get drunk on the show,
so I love it. Get ready, everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
E stept for the three other hosts. Uh, sitting in
her home I don't know, basking in the glow of
selling a commissioned stained glass.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Art piece he Carl and san Diego.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
And sitting at work fearful his boss is gonna show up.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Zachy Banana, did you show up already?

Speaker 5 (01:18):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:18):
He shut up and they said he'd be back. Oh no, like.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Zach may disappear. Yes, hey, everybody, head over Challenge pod
dot com you other Facebook group. You can also join
a Patreon which we will get into later. So we
have two episodes to cover. He's got notes for the first.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I I've got them.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
For both, thank god.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, Well last week was supposed to be my my week,
but because like always, we do the episode of the finale.
In one episode did I offered for both. I didn't
get the name of either episode because I didn't really care. Uh.
Top four teams. The teams are competing in this finale
are Steven, Adam, Nicole, Melissa, Shane and Davon and Frank

(02:05):
and Sam. And we start off in the house.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I will say this is the first like, I'm not
rooting for anybody. Do you guys give a ship at
these four teams.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
I wanted Frank and Sam they.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Just just just for any particular reason.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
No, I just I like I would. I liked the
idea of having two queer people when above everybody else.
I liked the idea of Sam coming back and winning
her second season that she's ever competed either of neither
season of which she has been in the best of shape.

(02:40):
And Frank does seem like he has made a lot
of growth. So that was really the only like and
I I really I didn't care about any of the
other teams. I love.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Frank.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I was rooting for Steve.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, I know you're that's where your loyalty lies. Zact.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think we all kind of knew that one going.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Yeah, if bananas is my love on the main season,
Steve's my All Stars guy.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yep, I didn't care.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I truly well, I didn't like, I wasn't gonna be
upset if any team won. Part of me was kind
of hoping Shane and Davon would win, just because they
have not done well all season. But they somehow made
it to the final and then suddenly in the first episode,
which we'll get into, they start just destroying.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, dominating.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, and this is Shane's first final, if you can
believe that. And I don't even know how many seasons
he's done now.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
But yeah, Scott in the chat room does give the
scenario that I was semi hoping for of he wanted
Steven Adam to win, but for Steve to steal money.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, would Steve as much if he still.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, especially if he looked at the camera flipped it
off and went sit and spin bitch.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
That would be like, oh, yeah, because I have I
have something to talk about with that when we get there.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Oh, go ahead, talking about you know, welf. He said,
how in the heck did Davon and Shane get there?
So it's interesting because this whole season, I think we've
been talking about the should they go with the strong team?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Should go they go the week team?

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (04:21):
Last week? Well, I guess there's two weeks ago now.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Frank was on Banana's podcast and Frank said, oh, you
know the reason that they got to the end, Like
day one, everyone in the house is like, who's the
weakest team here? Who we dragging the end?

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Who's the layup?

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Like oh, Shane and Davon hands down, everyone's taking them. No,
one's scared of them really.

Speaker 4 (04:39):
So they reviewed as the weakest of the week.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Interesting, Yeah, I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Have I mean apparently not that because it didn't get Yeah,
it didn't get said once on the show by anyone
in any confessional or anything, so they could I.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Just yeah, yeah, Frank lies too, that's possible.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, so we start off back in the house and
we jump almost immediately into Melissa saying that she's asked
how she feels about Nicole being super flirtatious and being
a very flirtatious person, and her response is, you know,
it's something to do past the time, but we're just friends.

(05:24):
And then we get Steve saying not sure what they're doing,
but happy as long as they're paying attention. To each
other and not the game. And then we get Nicole
saying as she climbs into bed with Melissa, I feel
like I'm I get myself into messy situations and she's
an attractive woman. And then we get a star over
the screen and we can kind of see Melissa taking

(05:46):
off her pants and we know that Nicole is in
her Oh no, I'm not saying she didn't. I'm saying
we can kind of see her taking them off. We
can't see Nicole. And then the next like, it looks
like it's cut, and the next scene that we see
is Nicole getting out of the bed and Melissa putting
new pants on. Did we really just see Nicole just

(06:07):
like first scene out of the gate cheating on a girlfriend,
Like immediately there was no like for play to that
at all. Jumping right end, I'm gonna guess.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
But yeah, even if they didn't have sex, right, even
if what we saw is the extent of this, Like
if you're Nicole's girlfriend at home, like you're pissed.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Right if I'm dating someone and they go on a
television show touting that they're dating me and saying that
they love me and all that sort of thing, and
then we get a screen of them, Yeah, in bed
with a half naked woman. Yeah, I'm not happy.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's kind of where I was at too. Like,
and does Nicole think this isn't gonna go on? Deep?
Like she realizes they're making a TV show? Right, what's
she thinking?

Speaker 1 (06:54):
She's dumb?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I mean, I'm a little confused as to how they
got that.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Camera, but hidden camera up in the corner, I.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Guess, but it's still just like, yeah, I mean Nicole,
there is There is not a single thing that a
person dating that I'm dating could say to me that
would make me not think that they crossed the line.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah. Un lets you have weird boundaries ahead of time, right,
I mean if that's what this relationship is.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Then yeah. I mean if they've worked it out that way,
then cool. But if if that's not the way things
are worked out, then.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, weird.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
Yeah, it's just strategy, that's what you say.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
How did you guys?

Speaker 5 (07:36):
I saw that the show yesteryear, But there was an
episode where one of the characters went on the show
Big Brother, and he was always like getting in the
shower with the girls or like coddling on the couch.
You'd look at the camera and pogged his wife and
be like, don't worry, baby, just strategy.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah that works, all right, that works fucking dogs.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, she's yelling at a neighbor apparently.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Who goes home.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Uh yeah, So and then we go Then we go
to the Last Supper, which I watched this episode twice.
I still skip through. I skipped through most of this.
Both times. These people would start talking and then they'd
start crying. They were talking about the reason, the things
that they're happy about the fact that they're happy about
getting there, and then the things that they want to

(08:22):
do with the winnings if they win. And no, I
don't need any of this. I don't need any of this.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Nope, lets give it.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, it's lots there were there were lots of There
was lots of crying, and I don't need any of it.
I really don't need Adam crying. Really don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
The only important thing here was the fight between Shane
and Davon.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Right, Yeah, So Shane, his last thing is he's just
kind of trying to build some camaraderie between him and
Davon and like, you know, kind of smooth their relationship
for at least the next few days so that they
can make it through this final and he says something
to the effect of like, yeah, you know what, I'm
really I'm happy that I'm friends with her and I'm
looking looking forward to like doing this with her, and

(09:05):
she just does not even acknowledge what he says, gives
it like a two or three beat count, and then says, so,
what's everybody's first meal out of the house gonna be?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
And Shane full like eye roll to the gods. Everybody
at the table you can kind of see.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Like Shane's got a little bit of a point here right,
Like that was.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
One hundred percent. It was super rude because Shane then
gets up. Rather than answering that question, he gets up
and it's like, Okay, I'm done, I have a good night, guys,
I'll talk to you all later. And Davon's kind of like,
the fuck was that about? And everybody else at this table,
what do you mean? What was that about? Do you
not realize what you just did?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
See? I think Davon totally knew. I think Adam explaining
that was condescending and shitty because Davon knew what she
was doing, Like you had to have known that.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
I would think that you had to have known that.
But she also kind of she kind of presented it like,
I mean, did he expect me, Like, yeah, he expected
you to like have some I don't know it, just it.
I thought Dave. I thought both of them were being shit.
I thought Davon was being shitty there. I thought Adam
was being condescending there.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, because Adam.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Was talking to her like she was a twelve year
old like she was one of her kids kids.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Absolutely, And I think Davon is just sort of sucking
around with him, just like like playing dumb, you know, like, oh, no,
that's not what I was gonna do.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Like, I don't think she was playing dumb. I think
she was playing the like no, I'm I'm not gonna
pull that ship, like that's that's not me. I'm not
gonna act fake, which I mean good honor. But at
the same time, like maybe smooth it over a little
bit to keep a teammate happy.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Just do stuff to keep the peace.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, you don't have to lie.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
She could have talked her way around. Yeah, question it
was truthful. That would have fixed that situation.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
And she did it. Later in the episode, she said
something like I'm gonna look forward to getting to know
Shane outside of the house or something.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, she could.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Say something like that is sort of true and kind,
you know.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yeah, Phill, I feel like the anything that caught me
off guard with this whole dinner thing is Sam says
if she wins the money, does she wants to use
it to get top?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah? I did hear that.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
That's confused because as far as I know, Sam's identified
as a female the entire season.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, but getting tops, I was surprised by that. Just
because it was unexpected. Getting top surgery doesn't mean that
she is relinquishing her identity is a woman. It may
just mean that she feels more androgynous and does not
want to have larger breasts or breasts at all.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
So I do remember on her Rare World season that
she was a drag king, So.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, but being a drag king doesn't mean that she
wants to be a man.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
No, And exactly that's why it's confused, because I'm like, oh,
I thought she identified as a woman, but just you know, like,
ye did drag as a man. But I'm like, yeah,
I'd never heard of someone game in top surgery if
they were not trying to transition, So I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
No. I mean I have a friend who who identifies
this non binary, and they like, they thought about getting
top surgery for a really long time, but then they
have days where they feel significantly more feminine and want
the breasts, and days that they don't. So it may
just me. It may just be that Sam identifies more
with her masculine side and just doesn't want bags of

(12:24):
a flashing off the front of her I don't like.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
I feel like all seasons we've seen Sam on she
does seem to have more of a masculine energy.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, but no, I was. I was very surprised by
that as well, just because I was not expecting it.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, it just felt like he was kind of out
of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, considering that there.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Was no I have to have a story arc with
that the entire season or anything.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
But no, there's just no.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Context clues for anything. So it's just sort of like, oh.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Okay, yeah, it would have It would have been nice
to have at just because there's not going to be
a reunion, right, there's not a redion for any of
these It's like it would have been nice just to
at least have like a whether it be a talking
head or whatever, just a touch point to be like,
to allay some of the ideas that are now being

(13:12):
put out, I mean, the conversations that we're now having,
just to kind of put that all to bed.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Well, I mean also maybe just don't because I don't know.
People are going to be sent to concentration camp soon.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
So there is that. Hum. All right, uh, we are
onto the final. Here's the nextver long. My very first
note in the final is Adam is annoying. I don't
remember what he was doing here, but it was just
that Adam is annoying.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
He's so annoying. He's so annoying. He's too like, let's go.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Oh, I remember what it was. It was Adam is
annoying because he was harping on. Oh. The last time
I was here was twenty years ago and I made
it to the final then too.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah. We did get a very quick shot though of
my challenge friend Sarah Grayson. I've missed you, Sarah Grayson. Yeah,
so hot, so hot.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Frank says that he's really worried about Steven Adam, and
then we get a breakdown to the prize money. First
place is getting two hundred and fifty k. Second place
is getting thirty five, third place is getting ten, and
fourth place is getting fifth and that is assumed to
be split among the partners.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
What shitty prize money too? By the way, half a
mil for the first, half a mil for the first player,
and all starts one.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
It's all stars, though, like this is this did they
have did the first season?

Speaker 4 (14:35):
Was only the winners get money? Or did every finish?

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah? I think it was only the win who got
money that year?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
I think yeah. But so it was a half million
dollar prize. This is all yeah fifty, I mean it's
like see it in real time.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Well this year was three. It wasn't even three fifty
or is three?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
So we're like, this is Rivals one money, this is
from this is from twenty years ago money.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah. So TJ starts breaking down the game and he's basically, okay,
you're gonna be yet again running for stars. And because
all of these things are about stars, and it's if
you finished finish the checkpoint in first place, you get
four stars, second place you get three, third place you
get two, fourth place you get one if you do
not finish the checkpoint. So like if you time out
or whatever you get zero.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
I like the condition. I don't know if we've seen
that before, but I like that.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I do want to point out since we were just
talking about what people are doing with the money, and
I don't remember if she said this during the dinner
or if she said it later, It doesn't matter. But
Davon points out, Oh, I need this prize money because
I want to be stay at home mom.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Oh I know.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
So one hundred and twenty five grand split between her
and chain, she could be a stay at home mom
for years to come.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
It's the number of people who don't understand what one
hundred and twenty five grand will actually do is just wild.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, you probably shouldn't quit your job. It's not enough
money for.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
That, especially since well you gotta pay like thirty percent taxes.
Yeah fuck that. David says, to be fair for the
decreased prize money, they got driven. You got driven between
checkpoints instead of having to run mile miles between them.
A true.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah. True.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
In this era of like anybody should be able to win,
we should lower the prize pool.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Frankly, yeah, true, it makes it does make sense if
the games are gonna be easier than the price pool
should be smaller, all right, So checkpoint one is called
coating ball. They have to run down a dune, memorize
symbols on a board, pick up a yoga ball pass
between the two partners as they climb the dune again.
If they drop the ball, they have to go back
down and get it, and then figure out a puzzle

(16:38):
at the top based on the symbols.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
I feel like the producers were like, Sam's gonna hate this.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
One, purposefully picked to fuck with Sam cruel.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
She couldn't climb a dune last time she won either.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, there's a there's a full, like two minute confessional
of her saying that I don't run on dunes, I
don't go to sand I don't go to the beach,
like don't walk into.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
And it's it alluded to it, but it didn't actually
say it outright that she's got a traumatic experience because
the last time that she didn't do this for Frank
and Zach.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
Because not only does she have a traumatic experience, she's
got a traumatic experience with that exact person.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Yeah, doing the same show and a finale like obviously
this is going to trigger some some bad ship for
poor Sam and yeah, she's struggling up this hill man.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
She's yes, she definitely was. It seemed like, uh, Steve
and Adam were the only team to go back down
and check a second time. Everybody else seemed to do
it in one. But ultimately, surprise of the fucking century,
Nicole and Melissa are the ones to finish this puzzle

(17:47):
the first at the first as. Yeah, it was wild.
So it's Nicole and Melissa, Shaneon, Davon, Steven, Adam and
Frank and Sam do not finish because they cannot figure
out their word and they don't want to go back down.

(18:07):
Checkpoint two is hashtag barrels. We have all seen this
played already. It was the barrel walking on the barrel
thing that Steve and Adam did in one of their eliminations,
so had a huge advantage there.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yep, Sam does not do well in this.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, no, she does not, but they do finish this one.
So it is Shaneon, Davon, Stephen, Adam, Nicole and Melissa,
Frank and Sam Man.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
People are just fucking on top of these barrels, just
like fucking flying across the course. Made me feel so
bad for Sam.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Honestly, yeah, doing it doesn't seem like it would be
as difficult as she seemed to make it right.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Well, I think because her upper body is not startenough
to support her size of her body, so it's like, yeah,
once you start falling it, you're just now your arms stretched.
I don't know, it's hard to get that.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
And I don't know if you guys saw it this week,
but uh camera which Teama was? I think it was
Devon and Shane. Some fans have been posting screenshots of
their finished puzzle and it's incorrect. Oh really, Yeah, like
one of their middle ones and their corner one were
switched around, so one of their sides did not add
up properly.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
They just have to flip those two around.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
They've been missing hipped with stuff like that lately.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, I feel like it's been a relatively consistent thing
where we've seen issues like that. We get our first
confessional of Frank crying because he really wants to win
when and Sam can't do physical things.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
He's got a little bit of a point though, right Like,
I mean he does full Tanser mode yet, but at
this point I gotta get while he's frustrated.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
One hundredcent I would be frustrated too if I had
his athletic prowess and you know I was reliant on
someone else.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, but I mean that again, he has known this, Yeah,
he has known it all.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Then, so throw a tantrum.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I can understand being frustrated, but it's still just the like.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, what what good is it gonna do? Yep, So
now she's gonna be able to run because you're throwing
a tantrum?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
All right? Check point three towered out. They have to
build a two deep pyramid made of upside down wire
trash cans, but you can only touch the trash can
with a sling made of bungee cords, and each team
gets one ball to sabotage another team with if they
want to, and that other team can attempt to block.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
When they explain this, I completely missed the ballpart, so
I was just watching them build these pyramids and then
someone's like, fuck this, then grab the ball run. I'm
just like, what the fuck is happening?

Speaker 3 (20:45):
That would be a little jarring.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Ummm.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Adam shows just how much of a fucking moron he is,
and he uses the only sabotage that he and Steve
get to sabotage Frank and Sam, who are not only
in last place, they are in last place with a
single point. They didn't even finish the first round, rather
than going after like you know, Shane and Davon, who

(21:15):
are right on their ass because they have made the
same number of points as Steve and Adam. Yeah, such
a fucking idiot. And then he also fucks up the throw.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yeah, like he like hits Frank in the back who
wasn't even blocking.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Like Frank, he didn't ever realize it was happening, And.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's like, what the It was very bizarre, But part
of me does wonder because during the eating thing they
sabotage themselves. Is there some strategy to like sort of
like this this way he doesn't piss anybody off, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (21:43):
No, this was Adam. Steve says it later on. He
says it later in episode two that he has to
help manage Adam's reactions because Adam is like super overreactive
on shit like this, and Adam holds a fucking grudge.
He's been holding a roger against Steve over something that
he caused Steve to do. Yeah, yess.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Says Adam just being a nut.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
It is he was, I mean, fucking moron, Like you
get one sabotage and you go after the team that
is in last place by a fucking mile.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
All right, well were yet, But then why did he
sabotage himself in the eating thing?

Speaker 3 (22:26):
He didn't, Steve did. But we'll get there, all right.
I'm yeah, he's just he's such a fucking idiot. He
also in his whole thing while all of this has happened,
he's got a talking head where he says that he
has zero interest in this person aka Frank. But if

(22:47):
he really had zero interest in Frank, then he would
have ignored Frank entirely and gone for a different team.
I don't I don't understand this mentality.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
This.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
We're gonna tangent this real quick. On The Real Housewives
of Atlanta, there was a tiff between two of the
ladies and one of the ladies took things way too
far at an event of hers and like publicly humiliated
this person and during that event said something to the
effect of I'm going to pay her dust like I'm

(23:17):
just gonna complete She's not worth my time, alos like
you just spent the opening of your store, ragging on
her in front of two hundred people who don't know
who she is. That is not paying her dust. This
him sabotaging Frank, is not not having an interest in
that person. That is, you are so hung up on

(23:38):
this person that you do not know how to move on.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, No, I think I think Frank is. I think
he's pissed at Frank because he lied about the the deal, right, Yeah,
is that why he's pissed off.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah, he's pissed because they were they got sent in
on the last elimination. But it's like, dude, you we
all could have fucking told you that was gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, yeah, he made a bad deal.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
David does point out it is unclear if they were
given the running scores at this point.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, but we were.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
We were kept up today, but it was unclear if
the challengers.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
I mean, who cares if the challengers saw the running scores.
They knew that Davon and Shane and Adam and Steve
were the first play, first and second place teams for
the last two checkpoints, and that Frank and Sam I know, No,
I did not say that. So yeah, it's just it's dumb.

(24:35):
Shane and Davon also used their sabotage on Oh no, sorry,
hold on, I missed my Frank's. Frank uses his sabotage
on Shane and Davon, and he does actually knock a
few off, and then Shane tries to use it back
on Frank and Sam and Frank is able to block it.
Nicole and Melissa are just lost in their own world
and don't know what's going. Ultimately, it ends up being Steve, Adam, Frankin, Sam, Shannon, Davon,

(25:02):
Nicole and melissam checkpoint for camping chaos. Wolfy, you want
to explain the game?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Uh, this is like one of those like find the
Differences uh scenarios. Uh, where they show you a picture
then you have to pick out the differences, but you
have to recreate the picture and try to make no
differences and whoever does it first.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
It stars very similar to game Swing Rivals one, the
finale of Rivals one.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, they can only carry one item at a time
and have to recreate that camping set.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, remember Mandy and Mandy and Jen timed out they
didn't finish it. Oh yes, anybody remember that?

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yeah? They also had to build a tent. Yeah, this
was just setting up a table like a tablescape. They
had to build a tent.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Looked harder than this one, for sure.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, but that is the actual show, not the All
Stars show.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
So yeah, teams did pretty good here, really better than
I would have done with this one.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Yeah, except for Steve and Adam. So this one goes Shannon, Davon,
Frank and Sam, Nicole and Melissa, Steve and.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Adam, and Steve is the one that fucked us with that.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, he's real convinced that a napkin is folded one
way when it was folded another way.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, kind of weird. We're not used to seeing Steve
be the big fuck up game, but yep.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
So we get two things from TJ during this checkpoint One.
TJ is really stirring that pot he keeps like every
time a team finishes, he's like, oh, well this person
was right about that thing, and they start bickering. He
did that with Steve and Adam, especially saying that the
napkin was folded as a wreck to airs a square,

(26:49):
not a rectangle. We also get TJ singing a song
while everyone is running back and forth.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Didn't like people people have requested that we talk about this.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I don't they have.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I didn't like it to him, No, I didn't like
TJ sitting there shrumming that guitar.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
He didn't he didn't sell it. He didn't know it.
He seemed like he was holding himself back. It seemed
too timid. He didn't he didn't sell it.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
I rememberj. TJ is very.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Stoic that he shouldn't do the song. He shouldn't sing
a song.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
Then I remember people asking us last week to discuss this,
and my thought is it's probably not a very good
song because I can't remember a single part of it.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I just remember that TJ was singing, and I have
seen that episode twice.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yes, singing and playing the guitar or something.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
David brings up something that was maybe a problem. He said.
The description was who finishes first with the least mistakes.
But it seems that once. Seems that once check was
called and they should have taken that time and then
just did deductions for each mistake, rather than having them
continue to go until everybody got it right.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Oh. Interesting. I didn't catch that at either point.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
I remember catching at the time.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
I'm thinking, yeah, because I thought, Yeah, you only got
one and done, and I was surprised people kept going
back again again.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah, I just I didn't catch that because the moment
that they described the game, I immediately went to rivals
one and did not even pay attention to the rest
of the rules. I just because rivals one. It was
you had to make it perfect. M interesting. Um, all right,
all right, check point five fucking trivia. Don't play onwards.

(28:28):
But the only decent title of any of these, Uh,
loved it, mister tim You want to explain this game
to us?

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Love this one. Yeah, it'sake a trivia game. It's like
a newlywed style game. But if you get it right,
you can dump nasty shit in the bowls of your competitors.
If you get it wrong, you gotta dump the nasty
shit in your own bowl. At the end of the trivia,
whoever eats the bowl of nasty shit wins this challenge.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yep. So the nasty shit was ground up coconut worms,
chili sauce, and black snails. And the questions were they
picked one of the partners, it was what was what
is that partner's middle name? Both of them had to
get it right. What is that partner's last name, and

(29:17):
who would your partner save, sabotage and eliminate of the
remaining through other teams.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
M yeah, everybody ended up with a whole.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Uh no, they didn't share uh. Frank and Sam did
not get a single answer wrong, and no one sabotaged them.
They drank regular fu uh. Devon, on the other hand,
when Shane gets there, when they get their question right,
Shane immediately says, we're going to go down the line.

(29:53):
We feel like it's the most fair. They put it
over in their first sabotage over with Nicole and Melissa.
Melissa and Nicole then retaliate and put it in THEIRS,
and Davon looks so affronted by the fact that anyone
is putting anything in their bowl because then Steve and

(30:16):
Adam put it in there because Davon and Shane are
in first, and everybody knows it. Frank and Sam do
the same thing because they're at first and everybody knows it,
and Davon looks so incredibly livid, like, I'm confused, did
you this is a game?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Like Nicole dumped it in theirs, and she's like, well,
let's payback and She's like, what are you looking at
me for? I didn't do nothing.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah it was. It was wild. But this is also
where so Steve and Adam get their first one right
and or their second one right, and it's chili peppers,
and Steve says that he can take it, and so
they pour it in their own rather than pissing off
anybody else. I think this was I think this was

(31:02):
Steve having a little bit of something over Adam because
Adam fucked up the sabotage the first time. I think
it was just a fuck, you did this wrong the
first time, Like, just we can just take it and
then we don't have to deal with anybody else, Like
stop trying to sabotage Frank and Sam. They are in

(31:24):
last place. Who cares?

Speaker 5 (31:27):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense because you know, Steve and
Aham at the time were not in first place, so
they're not the biggest target, and if they don't sabotage
anyone else, they won't get retaliation.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
So Steve also makes the point of he has dabbled
in some competitive eating. We see a clip of him
from a previous season that he was on where he's
eating food. So I think it was also Steve was
able to convince it probably convinced him before they even
sat down. Whatever we have over there, I can eat,
and I can eat it quickly. So I have a

(32:00):
feeling they just didn't care.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
I subscribed to a guy on YouTube, a competitive eater.
These guys are insane. Yeah, they're insane. It's awesome discussing.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
I will say, I'm a lot of shocks.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Steve had that much confidence in himself, seeing as they
did a similar challenge earlier this season and Sam and
Frank beat him.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah, but yet again, Sam and Frank had one thing
added to their shake that time. Yeah, so and that
was another one, another one of those weird like you know,
whoever finishes first and has the least left in their
glass thing, and it was that was a real weird
way that they were because they didn't really give us
the actual amounts that everybody got through, So I don't

(32:41):
know if it was that they actually finished the most
or if they really did do it.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I would love to see Steve eat against like Tony
and CT though, like, oh nice, all right.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I want to see the CT Steve eating challenge like that.
I would I want to see to take your thunder, David.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I really didn't see it, David, But good, good call.
Get the best, Yes, the best eaters from the show.
Let's get them all. Let's let's see what they can do.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yep. So Tim, two things, One, what do you think
about the cameras in the bottom of the buckets?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Love it? Love it? Yes?

Speaker 3 (33:17):
And two do you think this was the best vomit
montage we have had in seasons?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
In seasons? Absolutely, no question. My kids were just appalled
because I made them watch this with you, obviously, and
I'm like dying hysterically laughing, and my kids are just
grossed out, and like.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
You remixed some of them where they've like started stopped, started, and.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
And it looked like blood. That was like it was
red and chunky, and it looked like blood and it
was so gross and like Shane vomited. I was Shane
like was vomiting with this whole body, Like his whole
body was like passing out and stuff.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Nicole threw up back into the bowl they were drinking
it bringing.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
From Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
I fast forwarded through all.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
That doesn't surprise me, Sack. So ultimately on this one,
it ends up being Steve and Adam, they get first,
Frank and Sam get second, Shane and Davon get third,
Nicole Wilssa get fourth.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
We see the challenge going on right behind Tim right now.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yep, and yeah, Steven, Adam and Frank and Sam are
pretty neck and neck like. They finish relatively quick succession.
The next to it takes a minute, and I think it's.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Crazy because I think it's at this point where Frank
and Sam were tied for first place.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Great, huh Franken Sam, I believe at this point.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Wasn't this the after challenge where them, Shannon, Devon, and
Adam and Stee were all of the three way tie.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
No, they were. Frankn Sam were never in a three
way tie. So this is when we were. Now at
the end of episode one and the point totals are
Steve and Adam have fourteen, Shane and Davon have fifteen, Nicole,
Melissa and Franken Sam have ten. So they're tied for
second or for third. They never made it up to first.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Some readys I thought there was after one challenge where
TJ said that those three teams are all tied at
the top.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
I kept me wrong.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
Oh no, no, no, So they were. They were all tied
for the top during one of the checkpoints, like it
was anybody's game to who would and we'll get there
in a little bit. It's the pouring water one. It
was anybody's game as to who could ultimately end up
giving that one. Uh, and then he just lets them
all sleep like normal people.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Yeah, this seems like we missed something because also there
were some cots and there were some sleeping knights on
the ground, so this seemed like one of these things
where you like did a challenge to see what who
got the better bed or whatever. But we didn't see anything.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Zach.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Did you see men on social media about something we
missed here?

Speaker 5 (35:56):
No, I did not say anything about that. It was
just only a limited cots.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
It's like, hey, just little Margo, look at that cue puppy.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Guys, we just missed the shame doing the full body
convulsing thing too. It was great there. Just look at
the puking. I love it. I love it. I can't
even look at Margot.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Oh more go, such a happy looking dog.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Scott is saying it wasn't a cat, it was the
picnic table.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh, it was Davon on it though, right, there was
a shot where it sure looked like Davon was in
a cot.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well, there were definitely people who were worried about being
like attacked by bugs or spiders or things whatever. And
then we wake up to day two and one of
the very first things that we hear is that, actually,
I don't know if if this was at the end
of last episode at the beginning of this, I think

(36:47):
it was the beginning of this episode. Adam says what
he would want to do with the money is proposed
Avery Vonment.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, this is great. There's a ship about either of them, right,
it's Adam who we hate, and Avery, who we don't
have an opinion about.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
I mean, I love Avery, but the only opinion I
have about her is that she has horrible taste in men.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Reasons.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
He wasn't great.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Ny Riley was all right.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah, it was not a Johnny Raley. I thought we
all liked Johnny Rally, I mean.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
Fun nanny while she was in a relationship.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
So hey, that's her problem, not his, all.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Right, check point six high Tide, zachy Bana, do you
want to get into the rundown?

Speaker 4 (37:37):
I remember?

Speaker 5 (37:38):
Is this the one where they had but oh, okay,
they had to run down and get in these like
secular like boats that were attached to each other and
like just row their way.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
I think it's a mile down the river.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Ye, hold on, hold on. David says, Avery needs a
new job since Scooters is in bankruptcy.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
So it is so sad. I miss the Hooters here.
I come on, they're all terrible, but they're you know, they're.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Any good women working there.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
So I don't really listen to the brain Candy podcast,
but I did see a clip this week where Sarah
was celebrating the ending of Hooters because she's like, if
you're gonna work at Hooters, I think you might as
well just be a stripper. You're basically the same thing.
You'll make more money. So she's advocating, like all these
women she go becomes trippers.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Now, okay, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Okay, why not? Fuck you?

Speaker 5 (38:42):
So challenged field trip to Avery's future strip club.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yep, all right, so yeah in that challenge, it's nothing
really happens other than that. Sam says, Yeah, we're moving on.
Sam says that she thinks that she'd be good at
rowing because even though she doesn't have a strength, dumb
in her legs. She's got a pretty good upper body strength.
I found interesting.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Apparently Nicole and uh Nicole doesn't know her left from
her right.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, that was bad, not surprising.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
I would say.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
I'm I'm in my forties and I still have to
look at my hands sometimes just to double check.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Same these, dude, same these. I know that's pathetic, but
I have to. I.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
I bricked my phone.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
You're left handed? Noah, so I'm the only left handed
on the show. Maybe that's why I.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Mean I wear a watch on my left hand. I No,
I mean, I maybe I just know. I like almost
bricked my phone on Wednesday and had to get from
my office to the Verizon store and then to the
Apple store and a completely different mall, all without GPS,
and did that just fine?

Speaker 1 (39:54):
So okay, but what do I have to do with
left and right?

Speaker 3 (39:58):
Left and right turns saying like I've I since I
was a kid, I haven't had any issues with the
left and right thing, So I think it might just
be a you two thing.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I'm comfortable with that.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
David says, the Cole comes across it's so dumb at times.
I'm I'm glad I've never come come to in an
accident scene with her being the e M T treating me.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Imagine she's giving you.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
I think she's giving you test compressions are like that's
the that's the wrong say of the body, that's the
right time, Christ.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
And then you have to do physical therapy afterwards, and
Frank as your fucking physical therapist.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah, all right, so the Zach don't let me forget
about talking about Nicole versus Sam on social media stuff
at the end of the show.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Oh okay, I have eternal light back on. Hold on
uh that episode that checkpoint, the winners are Frank and
Sam by a very short amount because Steve and Adam
are right on their tail, and then Nicole and will
Alissa and then Shannon Davon uh check point number seven

(41:04):
shoulder the load.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Tim They have two little like bucket things with their
shallow buckets. The teams have to go get water, bring
it up, fill a large container with water with these
small shallow containers with water as many trips as it takes.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Those the containers of water are hung from a stick,
like if anybody's seen in like old timey pictures or
cartoons or things where they have a stick across their
shoulders and they're hanging two buckets on.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
It looks like that, yep, but these are small buckets.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
They're like, yeah, and it basically plates.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Yeah, yeah, deep plates. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
This is when we really get Frank and Sam both
way falling back into their old personalities.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah. Well, Sam is clearly injured, right, She's talking about
that she has a bum knee at this stage, and
Frank is not accepting this as an answer.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, but yeah, it definitely harkens back to the two
of them at the season's season. But to her credit,
Sam does not stop. She and back in Battle of
the Seasons, she was saying all of that and threatening

(42:19):
to quit, and she never wants threatened to quit. She
just said slow down or stop or I need time.
And unfortunately, because of her lack of ability to run
this checkpoint, because it's there's quite a bit of running
to it, she and Frank do not finish, but Nicolin

(42:40):
and Melissa don't either. So shanea. Da Von narrowly beat
out Steven Adam.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
It might be because of Shane's strategy to hold the
one thing underneath of it all. They pour the water
so they don't lose as much.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Smart badly and Frank's reaction here, like I get why
he was upset, but he did like this is over
the top so much so that people like Davon is
stepping in to help Sam and Steve steps in to
sort of pull Frank away and kind of try to
get Frank calmed down, Like this was a this is
an old school like this is a real this is

(43:16):
a real fight, Like I don't think this is a performance.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Yeah, now you can tell that Frank is Frank is
definitely like he's feeling the stress and let it get
the better of him. He and Sam do seem to
have a real heart to heart in the car on
the way to the next checkpoint, which I appreciated it.

(43:39):
He seemed to be giving her some tough love and
she surprisingly took it really well and agreed with him
on a lot of it. I do really wish that
we had actually seen him say I'm sorry for screaming
at you. We never saw it.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I'm kind of it's weird that that was like well
received for you, Carl, and I hated this talk because
he didn't say sorry. This felt like this felt like
he was trying to make it okay, that he was
doing that and to make it about her health and
her life instead of he was just being a dick
about a performance on a game show.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
It just it was one of those things. To me,
it felt I don't disagree with you, But it also
felt like this is a conversation they have had, Like
there have been many conversations leading up to this, and
this is just he is so frustrated and she knows
that these are things that they have talked about, these
are things that she needs to work on, and it
really is coming out at that point in time, and

(44:33):
it just it. Yeah, he did seem super condescending. This
did seem like he was trying to smooth over the
fact that he just screamed in her face about these things.
And it did really rub me the wrong way that
he didn't say I'm sorry. Yeah, But it also it
just to me it felt like they had had this
conversation before, which is part of the reason why it
seemed like she had kind of she kind of took

(44:53):
it in a more like a somewhat I understand why
he's yelling at me type of thing, even though she
should not be. She should not have to deal with that.
It was not cool on his part.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Yeah, And I actually got pretty emotional with when he
has telling her, you know, like when you get home,
you need to take care of yourself, Because to me,
I thought that was a moment where he stepped outside
of the game for a second and just said like, hey,
as someone who's lived with you, like I have a
lot of love for you as a human, seeing like
your physical condition this season and in this final, like
I'm scared for you if you don't get your health together.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah. I just think that off the back of him
acting the way he did, was like, that's not the
right look. If he was acting like with great sympathy
for her, and I got down like I'm so sorry
your leg is hurt, but you've got to watch out
for yourself. This didn't comfortable. This didn't seem the comfortable
place of love. This seemed the comfortable place of let
me fix this and still be right and not.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Saying sorry, no, no, no, I don't disagree with you on that.
It did seem like, let me, let me do this
and make it feel like I am correct, like that
me yelling at you is correct.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Everybody's also pointing out in the chat room that Frank
does tell us he looked over her knee between checkpoints
and you know, sprayed some some icy spray on it
and then wrapped it up, and it was perfectly fine.
She was she wasn't hurt.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Throw these terms around. I gave her a full ortho
what do they say, orthopedic inspection or so he said something.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
That's like everybody's talking about how like, oh yeah, he
he looked, he did X rays with his eyes and
was able to tell that she was fine.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, And she's clearly hurt, like you can tell when
people are fucking around, and like her leg is hurting,
you can tell it well.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
And she like, she's not going to She's not going
to be able to snap out of the mindset of
I am I like, my thing's hurt, but I must
push through. It's like he or Jordan who ran on,
you know, on on a literal broken leg. He's not
She's not going to be able to snap out of
that in the ten minutes. It's going to take them

(47:02):
to do this the rest of this challenge or like
in the next you know, half a day that it's
going to take them to do this finale. They get
just I understand why he was so frustrated about it.
But that takes some that takes time to build up that,
like those mental gymnastics to be able to push through

(47:23):
major pain like that. So he was asking for something
that was never gonna come.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yep, but he's an asshole.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Fuck fright.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Uh checkpoint eight balance them all, Zach and bananas.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Yes, uh, so they had to stand on well, they
had these sandbags. We're all different weights and large scales
and they had to put all their sandbags on the
scale as well as stand on each side and get
them to equally balance out and hold it there for
a second.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yep. M I mean, there wasn't really anything exciting about
this except for the fact that everyone knows that Steve
and Adam and Shane and Davon are neck and neck
and essentially, whoever wins this checkpoint takes the game.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
They're tied right now, right, Yeah, they're they're they're tied
for one or two and it's whoever wins is gonna win.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
This is the most anti climactic.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
They weren't running anywhere, There was no just two people
on scales.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, they tried to make things climactic, but we're not
quite there.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Yet.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
But yeah, so ultimately those two teams end up finishing
at almost exactly the same time, and there is absolutely
no announcement as to who actually one of the two
of them, and.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Then I see she deserves it.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
And then for Sammer are the ones who finished third
and Nicole Melissa finished fourth. So then we have TJ
gathers everybody up and announces the winners. Nicole meliss are
and in four are in fourth overall, Frank and Samer
in third overall, which I was kind of surprised by.
I didn't realize that they had pulled far enough ahead
to be able to like actually beat Nicoles, which I

(49:21):
guess I shouldn't be surprised because they were tied with
them at the half. And then it comes down to
top two and it's Steven Adam.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Oh, but twist, big twist. TJ says, come with me
to the two of them, and takes the two of
them away and says, you have to go to that
chamber over there and answer a question that's on that
board and put your answer on the wall and then
come back to me. It doesn't tell us what the
question is, and we don't know what the question is.

(49:57):
Until they get over there. Even though everyone including all
of the talking heads from everybody else, can assume that
it's something to do with are they going to take
the money and run or are they going to share it? Well,
the question is not are you going to take the money?
It is will my partner split or steal the money?
And when they get back to the group, TJ tells everyone, well,

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if their answers don't match, then they have to play
one extra game for all the money. But if they match,
then that thing rules, which I think. It made me
wonder if they both put down my partner would steal it,

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then does that mean they're splitting the money?

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Well, the way TJ made it sound is if they
if they did that, they had to face off. And
it seems like if anybody put that my partner would
steal it, that they had to face off in some.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Sort of Yeah, I think if they didn't.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Match, yeah, it was it was just that if it
didn't match.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I think that was all it was. If they both
put steel or if they both put keep, they would
both split it. I think.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
I mean, I don't I don't really know because it
seems kind of weird. If they both put steal anyway,
they both put down split But and I I want
to know your guys' answers to this. If this were
a game where each team member were they were each
getting points along this whole thing like we've seen in

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other games, and if Adam happened to get more points
than Steve and it was not will my partner like
there wasn't this like, will my partner steal it? Do
you think Adam and steal the money?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Yeah, because I one hundred percent think that he would.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
I think the only people that steal the money is
both Shane and Davon.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
I think everyone else was shared.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Really, I actually think Shane would have split it. I'm
fifty to fifty on Davon. I one hundred percent think
that Adam would steal it.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I do too. Yeah, and you justify.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
It with you you took my chance away last season?
Yeah yeah, and we haven't actually become that close this season. Yeah, uh, Chatram,
Do any of you guys think that Adam would steal
it if he was actually given the chance.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
For sure? For sure, you wouldn't. I do. Like, they're
both smart enough. I bet they had conversations in the
house as to like what to do in these situations.
You know what I mean? This is a prisoner's dilemma thing,
like they would have talked about this.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
David literally says, because this was a because in a
true prisoner's dilemma, if they don't match, everyone loses.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, they're not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah, Scott says hundred percent. Scott, I'm assuming hundred percent.
But you think Adam is going to steal it. Chris says,
Adam would steal Sorry, Zachie, you are outnumbered.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yea was still yuh. He's got a point.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
He does ballid. But that's the end of the episode,
except for if they have weird ass confessionals the afterwards.
I ignored every single one of those and turned off
my TV.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Adam says, well, now that we're here, Avery, wherever I
am in the room, you want to get married?

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Oh my god? He did not, did he really?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
He said, he said, like look at me, I'm better
be on my knees and like all this ship he
was real.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Stupid and jumping ahead to social media.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Avery said, yes, oh he actually proposed.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
He did.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
He proposed to via the TV show you could like
see it happen.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Yeah, no, he proposed the.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
She he said, she's my avery thing? Carlin, Did you
miss that she's my avery thing?

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
You think I could make that out that No?

Speaker 3 (53:58):
I when I when I say I turned off my
TV after this, I mean I saw that they were
doing these like weird ass confessionals at the end of it,
and I didn't care about any of it. Did not care,
don't care.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Well, you missed any everything? What a bummer.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Carlin's finally turning into us. She's just like, I'm done
with this show.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
No, I just I don't. I don't give a shit
about the what the losers have to say after they
like on their way out, or what anyone wants to
do with the money when they get home, Because one
what anybody wants to do with the money when they
get home, ninety nine percent of the time, what they
have in their heads as to what they want to
do with it is so not even remotely possible with

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the amount of money when they're actually getting.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
By a skyscraper, right, it's basically what it is.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
I'm going to put my name on it.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I don't watch the show to know what you're gonna
do with the money when you get home, because we
all know that that's not actually what you're gonna do.
Just be real and say that you want to, you know,
I don't know, spend it on yourself. It just yeah,
I mean sometimes it is.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
Casey told us she's gonna buy herself boobs, and she
showed up with boobs.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
She she she did what she said.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
Casey, Well, little blonde, Casey partnered with less on the
first Fresh Meat.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Hooked up fornnybody.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
When did she when did she buy boobs?

Speaker 5 (55:23):
After Fresh Meat? With the third place money she went
and used to get a boob job.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I don't remember that with.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Her faked She's mentioned him on the reunion.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Come on, remember I did even know night and slapped
Frank in the face.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
I don't, I don't. I don't watch the reunions most
of the time.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Weak weak sauce.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Hey, everybody had her challenge pot dot com join the
Facebook group. You can also join a Patreon. What do
people get for Patreon?

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Tim five bucks a months. You get pre shows, after shows,
years and years worth of awesome, awesome content. Also discord,
which I never posted. Thank you for calling me out
on that Wolf, I should up.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I sent him a screenshot of two questions that were
asked of him that he never responded to for like
two weeks.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah, but I do love all you guys who I ignore. Also,
we say her names, So thank you to Alan, Alvin, Anna, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Eduardo, Emily, Emily, Greg, Gretchen, Jacqueline, Jamie, Jamie, Julie,
Maverick Nelson, Patty, Peter, Rowlden, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Scott, Shack Shakr, Smiling,
Jack Stand, Stephen in Stowe.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Thanks everybody. Every do need to point out? So I
watched the first part of the finale a couple of
days after it aired. Cindy was here, so she watched it,
and it's the first time she's watched in like multiple seasons,
and she hated Melissa so much and she's like, I

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had to deal with her. I would kill somebody. Why
she needs her voice?

Speaker 3 (56:55):
Oh yeah, I heard of her voice either, and I.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Told her that me and Timmily like her boot so
that's why we like having her around.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Yeah, her voice paired with Nichole's voice, Like that team
is just I Nichols. I love Grinder, she would.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
I love that they're referred to themselves a couple of
weeks ago as team subtitles.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
I missed that. That's great.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I feel like Nicole exaggerates her accent on purpose. It
feels fake to me.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Sometimes maybe he was on an episode of True Life
and that's how she talks. Then too, it's obnoxious as
over the internet with her girlfriend's family. Since we're talking
about Patreon, we should point out we still don't know

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what's going on with season forty one. They have filmed
it or are currently filming it.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
It's over now. I think they'd finished it a couple
weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
But we have not heard when it's going to be start.
So the plan at the moment, so.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
The show is done, all right, all right.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
That's kidding.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Since we don't know when it's starting, we're at least
gonna take like a month off because twelve thursdays in
a row is exhausting.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
It's more like thirty some because this, you know, this
was right on the heels of the last season.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
It's also true. But for the Patreon, what we're gonna
do is we're gonna pause it so you can pause
donations for specific months. So we're gonna we're gonna pause
the May ones so you don't have to unsubscribe. If
we still haven't heard anything in like a month, we will.
We're gonna have a little meeting. We're gonna figure out

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what we're gonna do, and may do an old season,
and if we do, you can put poles on Patreon.
So maybe we'll put a pole up to see which
season everybody else wants let's to cover we have not
covered already.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Yep, and I guess since we've never actually figured it
out before the game started. The winner of the fantasy
league gets to guest host the next on the next
season that we do, whether it be old or new.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Sure, why don't you tell us who that is? Karlyn?

Speaker 3 (59:24):
All right, so let me pull it up because I
didn't have that pulled up beforehand. Oh, we're getting echoes
on you, Zach Fixtureshi there, Okay, So the host league,
because you know, everybody really cares about that. Surprise surprise,

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Zachi Banano's one. I came Oh nice, yeah, big uncle
Sweetea came in fourth. Yes, big up. The Sweet Tea
finished with one player, just Sam.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Wolfy finished with two players, Frank and Melissa. I finished
with two players, Shane and Davon and Zachu Manenez finished
with three players, Adam, Steve and Nicole.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Well done, Zach well done?

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Yeah, all right, So the team the league that everybody
actually cares about the public one a third place, Kiki,
one more time, girl, you were so close, so close
to getting first second season in a row, second place.

(01:00:53):
I guess I wasn't second season, third, second place. Last
season I was first, but whenever I'm top three again.
So I'm in the second place and first place. We've
got a new new person to come and guest host
with us. It is take the Stars and Run. Mister
Jeremy c Zachie Bananas. He came in sixth. Uh, we've

(01:01:24):
got somebody's name is Costco NERD's great our Challenge. Our
host team, which was, you know, we all got to
pick one player every week, was kind of fun. Host team.
It came in eleventh. We have Big Uncle Sweet Tea
and mister Brian Woolford battling out going neck and neck.

(01:01:46):
They kept going back and forth in the last few episodes.
Big Uncle Sweet Tea. He finished in seventeenth Suck it
will be, and We'll be finished eighteenth Suck It.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
It will be.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Yeah it really was a beat by ten points.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Nail nailer, body place, Thanks, thank you, thank you. Did
I make it in the top half? I gotta be close.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Thirty four people, thirty four people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
You are exactly halfway?

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
Yeah, exactly exactly halfway.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yes, I did that my high school graduating class too.
Thank you, everybody, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
So yeah. I mean, whatever, whatever new season we have
going for us next, we will do it again. And maybe,
you know, if if Peter, the owner of the website,
wants to join in on it, if we decide to
do an old season, maybe we can get Peter to
I don't know, figure out some sort of game for us.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Carlin I was thinking the same thing, but instead of
picking the players for the show, they would pick podcast
hosts and the score would be ranked on what we
talk about in the episode.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Oh yeah, that'd be good because an old show we
don'tlready know one. I realized that as I was saying it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Yeah, so voting the players and left really cool bad here,
But we could have like fun show ship like you know,
like somebody like a yeah but still is like a
point or you know whatever, we have to come up
with some points.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Yeah, that could be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
That's my idea.

Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
That I mean, we could make our own game and
rather than roping Peter into it. But uh, mister Jeremy
c h reach out to us on Facebook or Instagram,
preferably on Facebook or Patreon, because you know, I doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Want to answer it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
No, just because I I don't look at the Instagram
very often.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
We've noticed.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Yeah, reach out to us and you can come and
guest host on the next season we do. It'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Uh, Zach and Tim, you want to talk to some
social media stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I've only got the one thing, and Zach, I'll let
you intro it. If you saw it, the fight between
Sam and Nicole. Did you see this one?

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Well? I did not.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
After you mentioned that, I went to both of their
twitters and looked, I don't see anything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
It was an Instagram alive somebody who grabbed it and
put it on the subredd ATMTV channel subreddit. That's how
I watched it. Okay, But they were doing a live
and it was big ta Nicole, Sam and I think
Melissa was the fourth and Nicole started I kind of
get it, like laying into Sam saying how she wasn't

(01:04:36):
equipped for this final and how you should train to
be on these shows, and how she's never gonna win
a final and all this stuff, just like really kind
of laying into Sam and about her physical strength, and like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Sam, say, I've beat you at the final.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
She didn't because this was before the final, but she said, like, dude,
I've played two seasons, I made the final both times,
I've won one, and like, who were you talking about?
And then yeah, now that we see how this played out,
she beat Nicole.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
So really Nicole was just fucking bitter.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
It must have been what that was, Yeah, and she
looked at you like I pretty much everybody was on
Sam's side in that fight. Nicole came out looking stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
I mean, like we all we all know, including Sam,
we all know that she's not as physically fit as
everyone else, and that no, she probably shouldn't have made
it to a final based on her physical fitness, especially
when these finals tend to be super physical heavy. But
she didn't quit. She was there the whole time and

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she beat your ass.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
Also, it's weird because it's like, you know, she's right,
like Sam, you should be in better shape for this,
but then Sam should be like, hey, you fucking suck
at puzzles. You're never gonna win this because you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
You're a fucking moron.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
So yeah, so it's really if you're going to enter
this fi like if that's the theory, right, Like, you're
never gonna win, You're not in the shape to do it.
I could say the same thing about Nicole. You're never
gonna win. You can't do this thing that's important to do,
So Nicole stupid? Yeah what else? What else is there
in the social media land?

Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
I know if you guys saw or heard, but apparently
it's come out the Ashley M's original partner was supposed
to be Hunter this season, the Hunter was unable to
get the time off work.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
So therefore, Oh, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Surprised that Hunter would even consider coming back on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
What is he doing for a job?

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
I have no idea. Apparently something good, nothing didn't want
to quit it to come Also, something right he does.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Do we know who that baby mama is yet?

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
I don't think so. I think it's just a rando because.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
I know he didn't tell anybody when that first happened. Yeah,
all of a sudden, all of a sudden, a baby
showed up on his thing. It's weird. It was during
the like it was during the height of the Young
Bluck Club, Like, yeah, he can't. He went off the episode,
off the show, and then like a few months later,
all of a sudden, the baby shut up on his Instagram.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
Well all right, so a couple of months ago we
were discussing all of CT's love issues with his ex
Catalina uh. CT recently posted a photo on Instagram of
her with the Captain.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
I guess I'm crazy. Seems like staring back together.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
That guy's insane, right, Yeah, he's off the fucking he's
off the rails. He and Kara are both just fucking
off the goddamn deep end. She's a trumper. Oh yeah,
you're going again.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
And she's also coming a challengeman near Chicago. So excited
to see her.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Yeah, old friend of the show, Michelle got a hold
of me. It's like, hey, Tim loves uh Carra right,
and I'm like, she came out as a super maga
and Tim lost a lot of interest after that. And
she's like really, like what And I showed her like
the clip of talking about Donald Trump is and she's like,

(01:08:01):
oh god, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I'd still do her. I'd still do her though you
can tell her that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
Zach sometimes I thought, so it's not interesting, but just
a fun fact is a I mentioned earlier Frank had
done a Banana's podcast and when Adam came up, Frank
said he spent the entire season campaigning to production that

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he should be on the main show and that he
could still beat all these people.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
I believe that with Adam, he's such a fucking.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
So maybe we'll get it. Who knows.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
And then, speaking of, you know, being on the main show,
we have some good news and bad news for the
future of the Challenge. The bad news is, as of
right now, uh, they have not picked up a season
six of All Stars. But the good news is the
Paramount did order a season forty two of the main show,
so that should be filming this fall.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
We'll see, we'll see. I never believe it happens until
they're gone to the Challenge already.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
I mean the fact that I think it's happening, just
because the fact that they're like, yeah, we don't we're
not necessarily agreeing to a season of All Stars, but
like we want to sign up ahead of time for
another season of the main Line. Like I feel like
if you're not gonna do it, you just back out
with All Stars as well.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
You just don't do either of them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
They could cancel it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
You never know they could.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
How was that What's that show on Apple? Was a
mythic quest? Is that they renewed another for another season
and then they decided, Man, we're not gonna do another season.
So they literally just went and reshot the last episode
of season four that had already come out to make
it a finale.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Oh really that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
I have never watched it, but it's just like, oh, man.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
I tried for a season or two. I couldn't get
into that one.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
I've never heard of it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
So from like two of the guys from It's Always
Sunny in Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
And Rob mc McCallan, mcallenny, I never know how to
say that name.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Anyway, Good times. All right, Well, I guess for the
All Stars Rivals season, that is it. We are wrapped up. Well,
you said we're taking a month off, we will come back.
We will pause everybody's uh Patreon donations, so no need

(01:10:44):
to unsubscribe in case you're worried about it. So should
not be a problem. And once we decide what we're
doing coming up, we won't let everybody know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
All right, Well that's it for this season. Is this
Big Brian, Big.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
Carl and san Diego zachar Bananas.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
And as uh t J said, I don't know. He's
drumming a guitar and singing to himself apparently.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Bye guys, see y'all soon.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Charlie Chi, Charlie

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Learner re