All Stars: Rivals - tRival Pursuit

Rivals learn about each other as teams try to make big moves in the game.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mm hmmm, lame.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Let's kick over it alive, I swear to God. Hi, everybody,
welcome back to the challenge. The pacas allow about the challenge.

(00:32):
It's always I am Brian sitting in his bedroom with
his new ramped up internet so we can actually see him.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Big Oca.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Sweet Tea's sitting in her house developing beautiful multi colored glass.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, Carl and san Diego.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
About to be a billionaire? Tim, how's that she's selling
all over glass. Here's hoping she's gonna be hanging out
with Elon and Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh god no, I don't. I don't want that ship.
I don't want that ship. Here's hoping that my my
stained glass business actually takes off. And for anybody who
needs stained glass, go to ponds. Tom.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
This is not this is a.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Stage to promote your wares dot com. It's sitting at work. Uh,
I don't know what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
What's your what's your side? Hustles Zach.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
I'm on TikTok checking out the account for Ponroe sky Designs.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Doc as always head of a challenge pot dot com
joined the Facebook group. You can also join our patreon,
which we will get to.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
All right, who's doing notes. I don't remember who's doing notes.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Okay, super super short. I gotta watch seven, so let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Not this came out like just like an hour ago.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Right, Oh, comes out on Thursday. For some reason, I
thought it came out on Fridays.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
It comes out, Uh yeah, midnight. I guess ten o'clock
our time, midnight Pacific time. Right to be on ten.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
O'clock that would be two a m. R. Time. Yeah,
midnight Pacific time is two hours ahead.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Of them or whatever. I think. I think it comes
out at nine tonight, maybe ten tonight, all right, however
the conversion works.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Save that for the Severance cast.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Uh severed, guys, Severed, come on.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
No Severance.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
You're right all right.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Tonight's episode is called Trivial Pursuit, but true rival to
have trivial pursuit sounds weird.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Fucking stupid describes this entire episode. I'm done with the season.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
This season sucks. The season sucks.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
I'm still kind of liking it.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Fuck off, Zach, go ahead, Carl, all.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Right, uh, Amber and FESSI did the last week on
Who Gives a Ship? And then we're back in the
house and we see all kinds of calls home. We've
got Nanny talking to Casey, which was.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Exactly never seen that one before in my life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, and they like they kind of did a weird
cutaway at one point in time, and it it almost
seemed like there was gonna be like a breakup conversation
on the phone, and then it came back and it
was fine, but it was it was just it was odd.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
I wonder who got the dog. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
We've got Adam talking to Avery and his daughters.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I hate I hate Adam.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I know I do too. It was I did not
need to see that. I didn't get her.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I a.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
No, she's a fucking moron. She's dating at him, but
she's hot. Sorry, dropped to zero the moment she started
dating Adam.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Agree, well, bullshit, absolutely true. That guy is terrible. I
called that from a million miles away too. I can
tell you that when Adam's going back, When Adam was
coming back, I said, Adam's terrible. I remember him fifteen
years ago. That guy sucks.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
There.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Well, that's true.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Kick her out of bed for eating crackers, no, I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
No, she's hot, and make her hooter's outfit though.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Funny for sure.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Leroy talks to Cam and the kids. That was Amber
talking to Chauncey and the baby. And then finally we've
got Devin talking to Michelle and apparently they hadn't hard
launched their relationship at this point in time, but they
were already saying I love you.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
So whatever, Zach, do you have any defense of bananas
now now that it does look like the their courtship
is totally legit?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (05:11):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yes, yeah, even Zach is.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
But odds were on his were in his favor.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
How often a right continue just played around?

Speaker 5 (05:33):
I think if you say that a relationship that starts
on reality television is going to fail, you're going to
be right nine a half ten times.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
So he played the odds.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
All right, then then he's got to be okay when
people say that to him about like Mariah, Yes, all right, agree, mister, I.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Got super but hurt about the fact that I was
back on the show with her and that everyone was
not like sweet and nice. But whatever, you know, he's
a hypocri So it happens. We've got kind of uh,
Devin talking to Leroy and or Devin in his talking
head about him and Leroy, saying that they have basically

(06:11):
they have a stranglehold on the game. He also calls
Adam and Steve Urpy's.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Keep popping up, which oh.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I loved that. I thought it was great. And then
we've got apparently Leroy and Dario are like super close
outside of the house. Did anyone did any of you
know this? No? No? What?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
And I always I'm always little skeptical when they say
like we talk every day. I'm always like, really every
day Dario and Leroy talking. I don't know. I have
my doubts about that, the everyday thing, but they seem
like buddies.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Maybe it's just Leroy talking and Dario's sleeping.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean this this episode was very Dario heavy, which
I found very annoying because I multiple times throughout this
episode I made the comment to myself of like, how
why the fuck is Dario was talking right now? Because
why is he acting like he knows what's going on
in this game or how to play this game? He
slept through the entire last challenge he was on.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, it's weird because dar this has got to be
what his fourth season or something like that, and I
just don't I couldn't tell you anything about him. He's
not made a single impression. I don't like. I just
don't care.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
He is a twin Namerio, but that's about it.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
And he can't spell, really bad at spelling. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Also, and he.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Sleeps all the time.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
What was his Twinsesday? Was it like uh Ralphie or rafy?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, all right, but we're very quickly into the Chilene
how I really wanted this challenge to be a lot
better than it was.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Right, they came in, what the challenges.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
They came in and sat down at this table that
was very remind and of the Last Supper and it
was called Sunday Fun Day.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
It's weird association.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Did it looks like the Last Suppers? Jesus at long
table with people only sitting on one.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Side Shane, Shane and Davon to Jesus.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I don't actually know who was sitting in the middle.
I was watching it work.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
No.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
I I actually did like this challenge because I like
any trivia thing.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, but I want I want like trivia trivia, not
trivia about the partners trivia.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, I thought this. I thought this game format was great.
I mean, I really did like the I liked everything
about this except that the milkshake should have been grosser.
It should have not had a milk, had a real
milkshake base. And the ship should have been way grosser.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
They should have been. They should have been adding fish cuts,
not fish cuts, not like fish cuts. It shouldn't even
been a milkshake. They should have been adding courses to
a meal for each question.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Oh, that would have been good.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Also, like and like, you know, you get the question right,
you don't have to pick snap.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah. Them starting with Vanilla and then the last thing
being Durian. Durian just smells really gross. It apparently tastes
like custard, so Durian and Vanilla would work really well together.
So that was a dumb pairing, but whatever.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
I also think if they do this again in the future,
there has to be some type of punishment. If your
answer is no one.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yes, I agree, no one for us, you cannot see
those two things.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, I think that was one of those that they
just didn't plan for that one, but I agree they
should have answering us should have not been allowed.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
So basically, for those who didn't watch the episode, it's
an eating and rival trivia challenge. They split their their partners.
There's one partner sitting in front and one partner standing
farther behind, like ten feet behind them. They both have
a whiteboard. TJ asks questions of the partner who's sitting down,
trying and saying, you know, this question is about you know,

(09:56):
your team or your partner whatever, and you have to
both answer the same thing, and for every wrong answer
it is They start out with a vanilla milkshake, which
is far too good for all of them. Start out
with a regular vanilla milkshake, and they have four shots
of what are supposed to be gross things in front
of them. It's catch up Mayo, balsamic, vinegar, and Durian

(10:20):
and they for every wrong answer they have to add
a shot to their vanilla milkshake, so it ends up
tasting really weird. The questions were what is your what
is your partner? The partner who's sitting down, what is
their star sign? Next one was who was the weakest
team in the house. Turbo surprisingly said no one on

(10:42):
that one, which I I found that odd.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Did anyone else catch that because it's strategic?

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Well one because it feels too strategic for him and two.
He seems like the kind of player who would want
to call someone out, but he wouldn't call out an
actual week team. He would call out like a Devin
and Leroy.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, so I want to go.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Actually that now that I say that though, I take
that back. I take back everything that I just said.
It actually makes a whole lot of sense because the
question was, actually, who does your partner think is the
weakest team in the house. And the partner that they
were talking about is the person who was sitting down
and the person who was sitting So he was answering
for what he thought Nanny was going to say, and

(11:32):
he thought Nanny was going to say no one. That
actually makes a lot wr he did.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
The smart thing. Then, yeah, he did the smart thing.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I want to go back to this the sign though,
because it's it's interesting to me how many people had
like such specific like reasons for the signs that they
picked for their partners. I don't know anything about signs
at all. I bet I could name three signs ever,
and I couldn't tell you a characteristic about any signs
at all. Are you guys signs?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I know a lot of them, and.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Do you don't do you know what you're compatible with?
Wolfe m A.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
I know, I know my sign.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
I know the one right next to it, one of
them right next to it. I could probably name every sign.
I couldn't tell you what like months they go to though.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Yeah, this is gonna sound kind of sexist, but I
think it's a women thing, Like a lot of women
know star signs. It's just ingrained in us. We know
we know ours, and they're like some things that make sense.
I still couldn't tell you, like if you said, I'm
a like, I know that Taurus is a bull and
they tend to be relatively bullish.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, see, I didn't. I would have never put that together.
But mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
So Carlin, what what our sign?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Do you think?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
That's why?

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Oh oh why.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Chris hears?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, Chris he hears us.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Can you see us as well?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Chris?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Well, I guess it doesn't matter if you can see
us if it's not.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, but wolf he doesn't have a red light on
his I do do you?

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Three? Do you? Does everybody else have red lights?

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Everybody else does what wolf He doesn't?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
That's true?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay, goodbye.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
It's gonna be one of those messy episodes.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Whenever at least it's Wolfe who's missing this time.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, yeah, all right, you're back back, It says the
recording is still going.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Okay, never red light is on on yours now? All right,
So back to Star Signs. Yeah, I mean, I think
it's it's something that a lot of at least a
lot of the women that I know, know a lot
about Star Signs, or not necessarily a lot about them,
but like we know our own and can like pick
out traits on certain things. I have a feeling that
it's just one of the like they have people like Nanny,

(14:17):
and I'm sure there's a whole handful of people in
that house who take a lot of stock in Star Signs,
and you're sitting in a house with nothing else to
do except for sit at the pool and drink and
hang out. I'm sure that it's a conversation that gets
had all the time. So I was not at all
surprised that the vast majority of those teams knew each
other knew the signs of the person.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
I was very surprised. It was very surprised.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yeah, so Colin is our resident woman on this podcast.
Can you guess what all three stars signs.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, here we go.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
No, I can't.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Could you know?

Speaker 1 (14:52):
I have no idea?

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Oh, could you know? Like months? Like if I told
you a birthday, could you tell me what's on? You
didn't even do that? All right, I couldn't do that either.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
All right, if you told me, I might be able
to pick out maybe a trait or two, but like, no,
for the most part.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
No, yeah, I can't tell you anything. Nothing anyway.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
I think. I think star signs are fun, but I
don't take a whole lot of stock in all of it.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
So I will say though, I did love this question
because Turbo's answer about being a cancer made me laugh
harder than anything in a long time.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
That was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
I have higher standards for your comedy, I.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
For my comedy, but I also like lowbrow comedy. Yes,
you gotta like it all.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Pussy chickens better. You cannot copy my walk? Those are better.
Those are better, Turbo things, but stretty.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
That you cannot copy my walk. I feel it was
like comedy. He was dead serious about it.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
He was pissed, but.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Us it's still so funny. It's still so funny.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
I would pay thirty bucks to go to a Turbo
stand up comedy routine.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Just to Jordan is busy Chicken. That's it, that's the joke.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
That's all he has to say. Yeah, So the we
had who had who is the weakest? Who does your
partner think the weakest team in the house is? Of course,
Veronica has her little talking head saying, oh, I hope
that Katie wants to play it.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Safe for us, but Veronica is she Veronica approaches it
like it's a strategic thing. To like, oh, we'll let
him think.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Not a strategic thing. They are legitimately the weakest team
in the house. They still make a lot of boys.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Well, based on the votes, they're not the weakest team
in the house.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
They just don't make a lot of noise. They are
real quiet, which is why no one put them down
as the weakest team in the house. I bet you
almost any competition for and Sam could beat them.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I think you're probably right about that, but we'll say,
we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
And then we had, uh, who does your partner think
the most the least trustworthy team in the house is.
There were surprisingly a lot of people who said Devin
and Leroy also a lot of people who said Franken Sam,
which I thought was valid.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
And the weird one too, is like Devin does seem
like an untrustworthy player, but I think he's right when
he says like, I've never backstabbed anybody, I've never done
anything dishonest. I think he's just sort of as an
asshole and he's sort of sarcastic, and so he gives
off this air of untrustworthiness, but I don't know if
it's like deserved.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
No, I agree with you. I think he also like
he's a pretty smart person. He's a pretty smart player,
so he can do things like Josh, what's eight times nine?
And he calls He also calls people out when they
is pure, which a lot of people don't like that.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
That's comedy. Devin is funny. Devn is very funny. Guy off.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Chris just asked who has better cardio, Sam or Veronica.
I'm gonna say Sam just because we've actually seen her
working out and we haven't seen it from Veronica.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
I think Sam too. I think Sam too, And if
if the last.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Few seasons that Veronica was on have anything to go
with it, like we see her drinking and hanging out.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Was working out, she was a drinking a bottle of wine.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yep. Last question is what is your rival's greatest weakness.
The only thing that stood out to me about this
entire question was that Sam didn't immediately answer physical fitness.
She answered her mouth.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, it was very weird because there's a lot of
ways you could answer that, like cardio, endurance, fitting it,
you know what I mean, Like, there's a lot of
things that are sort of like in the wheelhouse. Yeah,
she didn't want to say I'm fat, but we all
see it.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
She's mentioned it. She's mentioned it multiple times that she's
not in shape.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Like, yeah, that's very weird.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
So here's my defense for why she might not have
said that. Anissa is also not in shape. And Anissa
has won more eliminations than anyone, so maybe Sam's like, yeah,
I'm not gonna beat you in a final or a race,
but if it's like in the sand wrestling, I will
smash these women.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Okay that that means absolutely nothing. Though they asked what
is their biggest weakness, and her biggest weakness is her
physical fitness. She could still smash people, but it's still
her biggest biggest weakness. It's one of Anissa's biggest weaknesses
as well. It always has been. Yeah, like I don't know,
I don't know. I don't know what she was thinking there.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah, very weird, very weird answer.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yep, I don't remember any obviously, we only got her
on one season the town before this. Maybe in the
real world, I don't remember her mouth gaining her that big.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Of tru.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, I don't remember. I mean I didn't watch her
real world, but yes, I remember her just being very
kind of like she is now, kind of quiet, kind
of reserve. Doesn't really start.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Problem in the real world was Zach and Frank.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yeah, and then and then she was on a challenge
team with them, so maybe that's why they just bullied
her the entire time.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
So we never saw that mouth.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, I felt awful for her on that on seasons.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, I think everybody fell off for on Battle of Seasons.
But that is the only question that she and Frank
get wrong. They're the only team to only get one wrong.
So they have to put Durian in there, which Frank
is not super excited about because apparently that's what really
got him in the last season that he was on.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, I love seeing a puke. We had we didn't
see a puke this episode.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Not lots of.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Rotting flesh or something.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yes, it is not a lot, so it's a it's
grown in Southeast Asia. It smells like when you open
it up, it smells like rotting death.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
That is what I thought it was.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, it is not allowed on planes, in airports, in
a lot of malls, hotels, businesses like it reeks and
if if it's in a supermarket or in a mall,
you can smell it on the other side of the building.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
I watched this dude on YouTube. He's a competitive eater
and he eats all sorts of weird shit, and Durian
was one of the few that he like struggled with
even getting it to his mouth. It's like, the smell
of it is so horrible. Yeah, I've heard the same, Karl.
And the taste is not bad if you can sort
of if you can sort of push through the smell somehow.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, we had we had some good family friends when
we were living Indonesia that they were very big fans
of Durian. But yeah, yeah, it's it's Yeah, I would
love to try it with one day. I'm kind of upset.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
But Zach.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
No I'll tell you what though, if I had got there,
i'd tried the Durian before I tried the Ketchup in
the thing.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Are you serious?

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Since the ketchup goes in, I'm quitting.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Sort of everything they put in that shake. The ketchup
to you is the worst.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Now, I've never smelled Durian. If I smelled it, maybe
that changed my mind, but I'm definitely not drinking the ketchup.
I'd at least try to drink the Durian.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, for anyone who is not aware, Zach has the
similar phibia to which Jimmy has not like ketchup.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, it's a weird one.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Okay, so now that they have finished all the questions,
everyone has put stuff into their shakes. TJ, when he
originally laid out this game, said that once all the
questions are over, the race will the Then it will
be a race to finish your milkshake, and who ever
finishes first wins.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah. This is weird and kind of non specific because
so many people shot their arms up as being done,
but somebody still had to be the first, right.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah, I feel like there was a very like obvious
first team to call check. But then Sam and Frank,
who were like fourth or fifth to call check somehow
ended up winning this because they had less than their Like,
this didn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, it seems like it came down to who drank
more of the shake. But if that were the case,
why didn't they just take a half hour and like
suck up every atom in the shit, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, or like you know, tip it up. But yeah,
it was very strngy. Yeah, ultimately Sam and Frank are winners,
which I mean I actually was not that surprised by
being that they basically had a vanilla milkshake. And then
we get a talking head from Frank saying, well, if
you're gonna call me the most untrustworthy person in the
or team in the house, then I'm going to make
a move that shows you that I am, in fact

(23:58):
the most untrustworthy person in the house.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Good, let's see it, Frank, what's.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Uh? And then we're on the Club Nights. We have
Nicole talking to Frank about how they need to throw
in a star holder and she throws out Nannie and
Turbo's name that we've got Dario and this this is
what kicks off the ship. Storm of the entire episode,
Dario is in a room playing pool with Corey and Fessi,

(24:30):
and Dario says, we should throw in star holders, and well,
Kitty and the star holders that we should throw in
are Steven Adam versus Leroy and Devin.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Did he say that because it seemed like it was
cut together weirdly, that we never saw him make that sentence.
It was always like sort of weirdly cut.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
It might have been like I, like I said, I
was watching while I was at work, so I didn't
actually see I just heard it all happen. So it
sounded like like he said, not necessarily versus, but like.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
That would be the matchup.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
It sounded like he said Steve Adam, Leroy Devon.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
My interpretations, yes, seem like he is just passing on
the information of this is what Franken sammer a thinking,
not that he was pushing for.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
He's just saying like, hey, this is what I'm even
hearing they're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, I think so too, Zach, And like I feel
weird standing up for Dario. I don't. I feel uncomfortable
with that. But like this conversation and everyone that followed
seems like Dario was saying, like, not an unreasonable thing.
He was saying, like, hey, listen, I have no control
over this. Frank and Sam make the decision they wanted
to go with star holders. They wanted to go with
men' star holders, Like what, like, it's not my call

(25:40):
at all. I was just sort of like reinforcing what
they were saying. I kind of get his point, and
I think that's why Leroy is not super upset about it.
But Devin was, and he's he's that sort of a point, right.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
He sort of does. But one of the big things
about this game, not just this game that we're watching,
but the challenge just a whole every single app or
every single season. One of the biggest parts of it
is having your alliance. And we talked about, like we've
talked about the sort of thing with fucking Josh and
his flip floppy bullshit and just all like, if you're

(26:13):
gonna have an alliance and you're gonna say that someone
is your number one, then you not only don't throw
them in, but you also go to bat for them.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
So in this get what does going to bat mean?
He should have said, oh, Frank, you shouldn't throw them in.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, he should have thrown someone else's name out, or
he should have made it very obvious, like Frank and
Sam want these two teams.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
To go in.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
We need to figure out a way to not have
that happen. I need to figure out a way to
not have that happen, because otherwise he looks like a
fucking douche.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
So it's more that he didn't more than he didn't
defend them enough, less that he said their name and
threw them in. It's kind of what I'm hearing you say.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
I mean, I still don't like the fact that he
said their name, just in general. He should have let
somebody out. If if that's really who Frank and Sam
were thinking about throwing in, then he should let someone
else say it.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
He just conversation.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Because the fact that.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Your name, that's that too.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
But he should never have been the first person to
throw their names out.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
I don't think he was. And that's like I think
it was like edited weirdly. But I see what you're saying.
If he if he was the first, he shouldn't have
done that.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
But I'm not The way that it was edited made
it look like he was the first person. Even if
it's just a Franken Sammer thinking this is who they
want to throw in, and then putting their names out
there because he was the first one to put their
name out there, like Wes is very very big on
this whole thing. If you say someone's name, even if
it's just like a throwaway vote like Leroy was years ago,

(27:48):
the moment that you say that name, everyone else is
going to jump on it because no one else has
to say a name. So the most person to put
it out there, even if you're not the one who's
saying like, let's go for them, he's the first friend
to put it out there and more public forum, then yeah,
of course it's going to come back to him that
he's the.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Don't And I will never know the answer to this,
But I don't think he proposed the name. I think
he was reporting back, Hey, Frank said that they want
to throw in these throw in Leroy.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
So he didn't say the name. He was just saying
what the plan was. No, No, I understand that.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'm not I'm not denying that. I'm just saying even
if Frank and Sam were the first ones to say
it to him or to someone in a more private setting.
He was the first one to bring it to a
public setting. And because he was the first to bring
it to a public setting, even if it was as
Frank and Sam or meant are planning on doing this,

(28:39):
it looks like he's doing it. Yeah, and he should
have let someone else do it.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
I agree with Tim that like it seems like LeRoi
saw what was happening here and LeRoi was not that pissed.
Part of me was like, I could have handled it better, Yes,
but I don't think all in all was handled that poorly,
except for Devin just you know, being an asshole.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
I see.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I disagreed. I do think that he handled it poorly.
I think the Dario handed it handled it very poorly.
And maybe it's just adding, but so really quickly. Darro
says that Tofesse and Corey. Corey then tells big T
who is his partner. He and big T then go
and talk to Devon the next day. Devin is completely
surprised that Dario said his and LeRoy's name, because he
knows he and Leroy are very good friends. Devin then

(29:26):
brings it to Leroy. Leroy is also very surprised that
Dario even said his name, even if it was just
a throwing it out there type of throwing it out
because Frank and Sam said it. So he then goes
and grabs Dario. Dario never actually denies saying that he
and he and Devin should go in. So that's where

(29:48):
I have an issue, Like that's That's the part where
I really actually have an issue is that Dario one
doesn't say like, no, you guys shouldn't go in. He
just keeps saying, well, I mean it's the you guys
taking someone else out is better for my game. You
guys going in is better for my game, which that
may be true, but again, you are on an alliance
and you have already said this person is your number one,

(30:09):
like go to back for them a little bit like
this is the backstabby bullshit that I don't like. See,
I felt when this is where Dario thinks that he
knows that's what he's doing and.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
See, and I felt like when Lero first pulled him,
he basically told Lero straight up like I'm not saying
your name, You're not going in in the public vote.
It's Sam and you know Frank, I have no power
over that. I felt like Lera was like, Oh, I
get that. That's cool, Like, yeah, you can't stop that.
And then it wasn't until Devin came over and started
like pushing it and like making him to a bigger.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Deal than it was.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah, that was That was my impression too, Zach. And
I don't I don't want to defend Daria too much.
I think he should have stood up for better and
all that, but I think that there is a point
to be said that, like he wasn't gonna save Leroy
and Debt. There was no way for him to do that,
and so maybe it is better for his game to
just sort of like let it happen. And you know,
then I don't know, pussy move, maybe, bad politics, probably

(31:02):
bad friend maybe, but it's like it's hard to like
be too upset or anger. It's I don't know. It
didn't didn't seem like vindictive or anything.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
And you know, we'll never know for sure, but I
feel like if the roles were reversed and if Sam
and Frank were going after Dario, I think Devin would
pub ly RITI him and like we can't stick our
neck out for that guy, Like I know he's your buddy,
but like we can't risk our own game to go
fight for him.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean fair, I just I feel like it's a
it's something that could have been. I feel like Dario
should have pushed back a little bit. And really my
ultimate thing is that Dario should have never been the
one to bring this out publicly.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
He should should have played this differently.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
For Yeah, yeah, I think, you know, well, like Tim say,
we don't want to find him too much.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
But also, you know, with him being partnered with Ashley,
who was on Samon's, Frank's, you know, Real World season,
I feel like, you know, parton was like, well those
are her people, she like was on the show with them.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
I can't, you know, I can't force her to go
against them.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah yeah, really, I just ultimately don't like Dario so
anything that sums up in his mouth on mouth, yeah,
I really like that, Like how actually looks you don't
actually give a shit about her.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
She's boring. But their fight was weird too, that the
Dario Devin fight is this where we are now, this
is a weird fight. This is so weird.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I thought this was so This fight was the same.
It was on the same level as Devin saying Josh
what's eight times nine because the way Devin is completely calm.
Devon has his hands behind his back and Dario is
sitting there saying you're a bum. You like I'll break
your jaw. You're not a champion. After after Devin says

(32:45):
that he is the I mean just all of this.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
Like.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Like you would believe, Yes, yes he did.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
He just looks so stupid.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Is so good at getting people to engage that I
think it is Devin's. I love his comeback. I think
Darius said something like I'm gonna, I'm gonna take you out,
I'm gonna you know whatever, and Devans just like, no,
you're not, Just like, no, you're not. He was right,
he didn't.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah No. I still love when they got real close
to each other one point in time, their lips legitimately
almost touched. They were within like half a centimeator of
each other. But I loved Devon's and this was in
the previous as well. I love Devon's comeback of your
breath when Darius says, you can't even look at me
and your breath stinks. Ye love Devon.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
One of my biggest regrets to the show is I
wish we had Devon in the early seasons with early
days cets, because I'd love to tell them CT, you
won't do anything and then watch the Well.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
I think Devin was pretty smarter. He'd be like, Okay,
CT's on a rampage, I'm just gonna go sit over here.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
And Devon wouldn't work in the earlier season. It was
far too much meathead in the earlier seasons. Like Devin
works now because of like the people that are on
this show and the way that the challenge has evolved.
But earlier, I don't think we would have liked him
back then.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
It had it had a flashback to Devin at season
twenty eight or whatever it was, and man, did he
look like a.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Child in that season. My gosh, Scott brings up. I
like it when Devin says it's the challenge, you don't
have to be tough.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Yeah, yeah, I that I enjoyed when he said that too.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
See I think I think you guys are all bigger
Devin than me. But yeah, just I just want to
see him get the Adam King treatment. I just want
to see him get has had smashed in Athan Love
these days, someone's gonna, you know, just had It's fourth
King kicked off the show for him.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
I don't know. Devin seems well liked.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Actually yeah, I mean honestly, dev and is like Johnny's
gonna retire and he's Johnny was, you know, the class
clown and all that sort of thing while being a
complete asshole. And Devin has taking that spot. He's taken
that spot from Johnny and Wes and all of these

(35:16):
guys who were class clowns, who were able to play
the game, who were able to like weasel their way
into all these different alliances. I think Devin has taken
that spot.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
I mean, I think he's the Wish dot Com version
of them.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
But of course you get all right, uh we are on.
They start going around the house, you know, who wants
to choose who? And then we have fucking Adam and

(35:47):
Steve say, Corey and Big T. And Corey of course
gets upset. He and Big T what and then Adams.
He and Adams start going back and forth. He was
just so fucking stupid, and Adam finally, are you gonna
let me talk? And he just says, I I just
want I'm we're voting, I'm voting for you because I
just want to keep the house beautiful and non dramatic

(36:08):
as possible.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Like, so I hate I hate Adam, but this was
Corey making a stinker. This is coreymatic.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
But Adam is one of the most dramatic people that
we have in the show as well.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
For sure, what for sure, but Corey is very dramatic,
and like that's another reason I don't know if I
buy this whole Daria thing. Seems like Corey just started
that because Corey is who he is.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Yeah, I mean, I think we got some dramatics with Adam,
with the whole Steve thing, you know, sit and spin bitch,
But I feel like for the most part, Adam is
just an old man in his room, like nursing his
wounds and like sleeping. Like I don't feel it's that dramatic.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Because he's dating Avery.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Depending It's just I don't think he's the dramatic.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Like, if you are to lift the people in the
house top eight to start a fight, do you really
think he's gonna be in the top eight start off?
I yeah, like to just pop off and just try
to screaming at someone for no reason. I'd put you know,
Big Tea above him. I'd put Korey above him, Like,

(37:11):
I feel like he's very non dramatic.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I don't know, I I don't I yeah, I just
don't like him.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
So yeah, I don't like him either. I don't know
if he's like dramatic in that same way. But he's
just a bummer. He's a bummer of a dude. He's inauthentic,
and he's a fake bummer of a guy.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
He is.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
He'll do stuff, and the stuff flip it on him.
It's a personal attack, the biggest affront he's ever had
this entire life.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah, yeah, but at least like personable and charming sometimes, Like.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Adam may not be dramatic in the same way that
Big T and Corey are dramatic, but Adam's still dramatic
as fuck.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, he is the way he screams and eliminations like
a fucking maniac.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
But he sat there and started yelling at Corey for
not letting him talk.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
Like, yeah, that moment was dramatic. I all agree that
that part was.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
But yeah, ultimately, deliberation doesn't really matter. Because Adam and
Steve get voted in. I really wish that we would
go back, that they would reinstate that rule where if
someone wins the elimination the week before, they cannot be
voted in the next week. Like that should be. Having

(38:34):
that rule and having a punishment for coming in last
should happen in every single challenge regardless of the game,
because those two things ruin this game every that would solve.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
This entire.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yes, I really think that's true. Every single season, the
last challenger, last place team goes in, no matter what
other rules there are. That's how it has to work.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
So I do like that. But at the same time,
I also like the drama that ensues when people have
to call out someone else in the house, when the
house has to call out someone else in the house,
So I'm okay with it not being the last person
to have to go in as long as that last
team gets something.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
They do the thing where they have to pick two
different teams and then the people who win have to
choose from those, like they've done before.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
I can't remember what season it was. I think it was.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
Was it free Agents, but the mayber that I just
had one season where, like Leroy, his strategy the entire
season was to purposely come in last.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
So I like that.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
You don't always a'macually go in because Leroy found a
way to like turn that into a legitimate strategy of like, hey,
if I come in last, I go into the draw
instead of being able to be chosen, and I have
better odds of escaping eliminations.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, and that's fun in seasons like that when one
or two guys figured out. But remember like Final Reckoning,
the whole cast sort of figured it out and turned
to like a component and I don't remember this, but
turned some component of the game play into something that
was just bullshit stupid.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, where they were able to game the system. Yeah,
I do remember that.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah. So it's like the game has to be made
in a way that you can sort of game it,
but not that much.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Like I like the drama that ensues when the entire
house has to vote in who goes into the elimination
against the person that like the winners get to choose.
But yeah, I mean I feel like maybe it should
be a I don't know, some combination of all of that.
But there has there has to be a consequence. There
has to be a fucking consequence for coming in last,
because otherwise you have teams like fucking Katie and Veronica

(40:37):
who were just going and Big T and Corey who
were just gonna skate along.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
And they pretend, yeah, they pretend like it's a strategy. Oh,
we don't have to win, we can just come in late.
And you know it's okay, that's bullshit. Should be trying
to got the best, you should be trying to win
this thing.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah. Like, I mean, Frank and Sam we've seen quite
a bit of but they like, I don't know, there
are so many teams this season who are just they're
just skating by because it doesn't matter the moment that
someone wins, then the whole the whole game is done.
Like it's so fucking stupid. It drives me nuts.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
I will say I'm the opposite of Wolfe that I
was bummed for a while the Steven amergain thrown and
every time. Now I've reached a point where I'm excited
for it because I want to see them win the
season by going into every single elimination and winning out
and just taking everyone out one by one.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I would really love for them to lose.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
I don't want I don't want Adam to win. I
don't want Adam to win, but Steve to win Steve
doing that, I like. I like the I like the
champions have to work really hard for it, so I
would like that story. But I hate Adam too much.
I can't root for them. I can't do it.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
So what if Tim, What if they get to the
end win and then Steve takes all the money?

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Okay, then I'm on board. All right, I'm in let's
do it.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Steve's a nice guy to do that, though he's not
gonna take all the money.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
If you wants, I think you're probably right.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
But i'd be great if you took him out him
and looked at him said sit and spin, bitch.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
That would be really fucking funny. That'd be great.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Scott the only one who wouldn't mind if Veronica never
showed up again. No, you're not the only one.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Oh. I have been saying that. Maybe I haven't actually
said it out loud, but yeah, I Veronica doesn't need
to come back ever. Katie doesn't need to come back ever.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Oh I take that back. Take that back, Take that, Katie.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
I don't hate Veronica, but if she retired after the season,
we never saw her again, I would not feel any loss.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Yeah, same, which is really sad. Remember it was like,
remember when she came back this round, we were all
so excited. I didn't seen her forever, and now it's yeah,
we're done and we have not.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Seen her in forever. She was on the she was
on the right, or on the season with.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
You weren't you weren't even there. Me, Wolfy and Amanda
talking about Veronica's return on Champs. Very remember that one
of the Champs verses or whatever. It's been like seven
eight years since we've seen her, and then she came
back seven or eight years ago. Yeah, I know. So
now we've seen her toom Now it's like we're done
with her now.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
But yeah, I feel that Veronica. I will always allow
Katie back. I will never get tired of her.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Same Zach, I agree, Katie's my girl.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
I'm cynical.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Love drunk Katie in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Oh my god, she's so drunk. She's so tiny. Yeah,
she probably had like three shots and was shit based. Anyways,
we're back at the house. Uh, Frank and Sam have
sat down to talk with Lee and Devon and I
forgot about this, but last week they struck a deal
where like they kept Frank and Sam out of elimination

(43:36):
because they were the ones who won with the understanding
that they would be in an alliance together, and so
Devin and Leroy sat them down to like make sure
that that alliance was still in effect, and Sam MAT's
they're a good point of like they're basically offering them
everything but the actual final like we will take you
all the way there if you if you actually align

(43:57):
with us.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, but you have to have to realize too. There's
a there's some selfishness to that. They want Sam there regardless.
I don't think that this their loyalty. Their loyalty to
Sam is is for reasons other than loyalty to Sam.
I think they would have kept them no matter if
they had a deal or not, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
They I mean, it's still it's part of the game.
They can they.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Shouldn't have made if they're gonna throw them, they shouldn't
have made the deal. But I do think I think
that was a selfish move from Devon. Frankly, that wasn't
the selfless let me save you move, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
No, as much as he wants to say that he
and Sam are becoming friends, it was definitely not a
selfless move. But Devin does throw out that they should
throw in Mel and Nicole against Adam and Steve, which
that could be an interesting pairing. It would have been
really bad on this game, but we all know how

(44:52):
smart Nicole is. And then we get a talking head,
completely complete nons from Davon, who I forgot was even
in this game. We got the non sequitor from talking
head from Davon saying, don't ever assume that just because
they're your friends that you're good. It's like, oh, well,

(45:14):
it's official now, so we are on Willem, Steven, Adam
come down and surprise, surprise, Frank and Sam called down
definite Leroy, which is dumb.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
I think I need to well, who would you have gotten.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Turbo out of there? Or send Adam and Steve home?
Either way? Uh, Devin and Leroy their back, Like during
the voting when Frank's like, everybody thinks we're the most
untrustworthy team in the house, I'm gonna give him a reason.

(45:57):
And if you remember, Devin and Leroy did not vote
that the most untrustworthy team. They were on their side.
They could have trusted them. They could have probably gotten
all the way to the end. Hanging out with Devin
and Leroy.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
As selfish as the as the deal that Devon made
with them may have been. I don't I don't disagree
with you. I think it was a dumb move because
they would have gone, they could go.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Now Frank has shown that he will fuck over somebody
he has an alliance with, so nobody else in the
house is going to trust him. So now they're going
to be on their own trying to figure out how
to get to the final.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
And it's still I don't think we've made it halfway
in this game yet. And because they're being perceived as
one of the weakest teams in the game, like this
potentially has this has potentially really really really bad consequences,
Like I wouldn't be surprised if they get thrown in
in the next episode or two.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Heavily, heavily disagree, Thank you, Zach, I very disagree. I
disagree with that. I think I think that they can
do very well in this game with no alliances because
people want to take them to the final.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Yeah, and here's my thought.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
If they had sided with Devin and Leroy and just
kind of be another one of their numbers, they probably
get to the end run the final. But what a
boring story. Neither of them have been on the show
on forever, so I think they're looking the like, hey,
we're probably not winning this final, but what we can
do is make ourselves into such big characters. The producers
are falling over themselves to call us back every chance

(47:28):
they get it.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
And also, Zach, let me let me let me add
to that, Zach, the only chance that Zach or that
that Frank and Sam have to win is by getting
out the strong players. They want the strong players against
each other every elimination, and they went the final to
be all the weak fucking people at the end.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
They're fining to get Katie and Varonicut to the end
with them.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, so I think Frank's Frank's is right, like, let's
align with all the weak people Woul.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Against Leroy who's never won and Devin who, let's face a,
Dario told him he had a pop belly, was not athletic,
or do you want to run it against.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Turbo Turbo Nanny. I think I yes, either one of those.
I mean, I I guess either one of those. I'm
fine with either of those, but it shouldn't have been
like Katie and you know what, I mean it should have. Yeah,
Turbo would have been a good one too. Yeah, any
of the strong teams, Yeah, I would have been fine.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Different strong team is what and I are both on
the side.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Okay, Yeah, I'm finding that too. I just don't think
I just don't think they need an alliance, is my point.
I just don't think that they're going to benefit from
a strong alliance or from getting in with some of
the strong players. That's not their game.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
To be hurt for being an alliance with a strong team.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
No, because they just threw them out?

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Would it have been? You're just saying they don't need it.
I'm saying, what would the game play be any worse
with the strong team by the.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Side, Yes, because you want the strong team out. You
don't want to take this, you don't want to ride
in the coatails with the strong team to the final.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Won't throw you in. They'll throw in the stronger team instead.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
They're not going to throw you in because they want
you in the final, because you're gonna plays not not.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
The strong team that you're aligned with other teams.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I got you, I got you Okay, Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
I mean honestly, again, non secretary from Davon. Davon wants
Adam and Steve to come back because Adam and Steve
are that shield that are going to be there before
her and her partner, before her and Shane. Right, Like,
if Adam and Steve keep coming back, then they constantly
have a shield. So if you are aligned with a
strong team, you have that strong team that people are

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gonna want to vote for.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
Yeah, but Davon also wants Adam and Steve to keep
coming back to take out other strong teams.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
She doesn't want them to come back to take out
Frank and Sam.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah, and if you're Frank and Sam and you are
the worst team, every alliance is with a stronger team, right,
if you're the lowest team.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Every I don't think they're the worst team, though you
think Katie and vroonic R's and Katie and Veronic are.
I think Davon and and Shane have a pretty good
chance to be the worst team. I think CT or
not CT, Corey and Big T have a pretty good chance.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I think Katie and Veronica are the worst team.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
So Katie and Veronica are definitely the worst team. Yeah,
But I mean I think there's a group of like
four or five teams that are all contending for that
second place spot.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Yeah, and also I think.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
It's the right choice to go after them over at Tarbo,
because while do you think Tarbo is strong, he has
not lived up to his reputation this season compared to
Devin and Leroy like they want.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Definitely, Roy has been first or second every challenge.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
Nannie and Tarbo have not been like that dominant, So
I feel like there's a much bigger chance of you
beating them in the future to throw them in.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah, I just didn't want to see Devin and Lero
go home. It's very sad, as Leroy says, oh and fifteen,
which and I guess technically we haven't even gotten there
yet because we're an elimination. Who wants to tell us
what the game is.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Well, hey, there's barrels. You have to walk them across
this open area. Can't touch the sand, so you have
to do like circus tricks to get it across, and
then once there you have to solve the mathematical so
Dooku esque sort of puzzle where you have to get
the same amount on each side or or equal the

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number that's on the barrel that's already there.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Yeah, let's make a math equation at the end, which
I thought.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I thought that would that would help help. I thought
that would help Devin. I thought Devon would just be
like nail it.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Yes, yeah, I pretty much exactly guessed how this was
going to play out, like almost exactly, except that Devon.
I thought Devin was going to be faster, because even
Devin didn't solve puzzle at all. Right, that one shocked me.
But I knew that Steve was gonna be the first.
I knew Steve was gonna have to have Adam for sure.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah, yeah, you had to. Each team member had their
own set of barrels that they had to roll to
the other side, and each team member had their own
puzzle to solve. But once one team member finished, they
could go and help the other team member. And yeah,
Adam and Steve finished their rolling of the barrels a
lot faster than Devin and Leroy did, and then Steve
finished his puzzle before either of them and went and

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helped Adam, who was very confused about the rules and
didn't understand that the barrel in the center that was
already there is and is also the largest number of
all of the other numbers you have is the number
that you have to have that besides, it's such a
fucking moron. I was very confused as to why he

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was so confused. I forgot that he was a hand model. Yes,
good o, Steve. I thought this elimination was very boring
to watch. It was. Yeah, even even the other challengers
were like, we have no idea who's in first or
who's in second or where things. It seems like there was.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Only one time when there was any like tension of
somebody falling off a barrel, and that was right at
the beginning. Devin just said, Leroy, just start over and
he's like, oh okay, and that was it.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Yeah, seems that they caught they caught the barrel rolling
pretty easily. Yeah. I came down to the puzzle. That's
it always does.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, so Adam and Steve when uh Leroy kind of
does ah fuck, Oh I'm fifteen. I mean a lovely
he's such a he seems like a genuinely good guy.
But that man is never gonna win.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
No, he won't. It's very sad, but I love Lee Ray.
He's got too many He's not good at puzzles. It's
not good at swimming, and he tends to get bad partners.
Because he got a very good part this season.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
We got a really good partner.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Yeah, yeah, somebody that would round him out a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
I think next time he comes on he needs to
start a fight and then get a relationship with Jordan.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Then he's good for both rival.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Smart Zach Smart.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Dario says something the effect of like, I'm I'm I'm
glad that you know, we got a strong team out,
but sorry that it came at the cost of my
best friend.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Like, we also got Devin going, are you happy, Dario,
are you happy? He's like, if you leave it, yes,
of Leroy, no, the.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Most package deal. So well, and then we get we
get the talking so everybody's kind of wondering what's going
to go on with the star that Devin and Leroy had,
And we get the talking head of Adam saying we
get it ToJ right, we get it. Like was he
saying like they get to keep it like the two
of them, or that they get to take it give

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it to somebody?

Speaker 5 (55:01):
Was that?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I wasn't really sure where he was trying to go
with this.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
I wonder if go ahead, Zach I thought he thought
maybe they got to hold on to us that way,
if they lost the star in the future, they still
had a second one.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I think that was kind of the impression that I
was getting, which is so fucking stupid. It has never
gone that way ever.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
Yeah, but I wouldn't be against it either.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
I actually gotta like it.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Adam and Steve would.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
I could kind of like it, and then if you
by the final, maybe you give it away at the
final or something, you know, if you have to and
somebody else don't have one, you know, something like that.
I don't mind. I don't mind a player having you know,
a team have more than one.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Don't mind a player having it either, as long as
it's not Adam and Steve.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Can I.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
No, Steve fucked up royally in the last final that
he was in and he let let fucking Laurel win.
Steve's on my ship list.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
He should be a Challenge champion. I'm sad about that.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
That was, Yeah, that was I was. I'm still mad
about that, fucking Laurel. You let Laurel win because you
weren't paying attention when the rules were being said.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
Mm.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
But anyway, back to this game, TJ doesn't actually tell
them what's gonna happen with the star He just says,
we'll see you next. We'll see at the next game,
see the next challenge, and then walks away.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
But in the coming soon we have some idea, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
So in the coming soon spoilers. In the Coming Soon,
he says that this challenge is a star challenge, so
it looks like whoever is going to win that challenge
gets a Stark potentially be a star holder already.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Do we think this is also going to well, I
guess that's number one? If this is just for a
star do star holders play this game? And number two?
Is there like an elimination or is this really just
like who's going to get this next star? And then
we move on?

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I didn't even think about that part.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
I don't know, We'll see see next week.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Care.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I really hope that star holders don't sit out in
this game because that always makes things more boring. But
there is an elimination again, that also makes things really
boring when there isn't one.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Yeah, like we said, we have nice before, but I
still hope, you know, like Tim was saying that if
one of the starholders wins the next challenge. I hope
they get to hold onto it and then like hand
pick at the end who they want to take to
the final with them.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
I think that's that'd be a great way to do
it though, because then you could then if you, let's
say you get to the final with every.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Star, we really take who you want to be, who
you want.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
I'm not going to give them out. I'm just gonna
run it by myself. I mean, you're gonna walk, right,
think as many naps as I want, right, hmm.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
No, that would be nice, but I don't think you're
going to do it. It's kind of like everything when
we get down to that final thing where you know,
they say, oh, well you have to have a start
in order you have to have a star in order
to go, and then we think, oh, well maybe they
just they won't have any more up for grabs, and
then we get down to that final thing, Oh it's
a purge, like, oh, we star holders are actually up

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for grabs, like they've done that every time joins nets.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
So do we think of a star holder wins, they
get to give that star away, or do you think
I'll just be the highest finishing non star holder gets it.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I really hope that if it is a star holder wins,
that they get to give it to whoever they want
to give it to, because they have done that in
other seasons they have.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Yeah, but if that were true, Steven Adam should have
gotten it and given it away already. R's no.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
I understand that, but I just think I would rather
just think it'll be non star holders only with no
elimination next week.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Based on the very limited knowledge we have, it seems
like that's where they were headed. But I don't know,
we'll see.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
I feel like everyone will compete, but yeah, like if
if you know the top three finishers are the star holders,
I think the fourth place person will get it by default.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
Just for me in the highest finishing non star holder.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
It just drives me nuts when they let people sit out,
And I really hope there is an elimination because that also,
like I said, it drives me nuts.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
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Speaker 3 (59:20):
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Add free episodes as well access to the Patreon where
I post the episodes for free, because you should steal
these episodes, everybody. They make it really hard to watch them,
so fuck it, steal it. Who cares? And we also
do you.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Post the actual episodes of the show, not of our show,
but of the.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Show, of the actual show to our discord, but you
have to join the patreon to do that, And don't
join this to get it for free. But steal the show. Steal,
steal it, especially with this merger, right, guys, you found
this merger, that CBS merger. Shit, No, we'll be you
in on on this man.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Nothing matters. The world's on fire, are who cares?

Speaker 5 (01:00:04):
I saw the you guys saw the Paramount announcement this morning.
No Paramount has declared that they are no longer going
to do de e I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
And their company YEP initiatives. Yeah uh so yeah, steal
the show, guys. Uh And we also for that five
bucks a month, we say your name, so thank you
to Elena, Alvin, Anna, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Eduardo, Emily, Emily, Garrett,
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(01:00:38):
Shack shake our smile and Jack stand, Stephen and Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Thanks everybody, Yeah, everybody? What's uh? Fuck? Paramount fu fuck
every company?

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
You got it? Got it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Costco said they are keeping the it's a ghoshop at Costco.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Yes, and go steal from Walmart.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
And Target and Target.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Wait what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
There was a list going out that showed corporations that
are supporting Project twenty five and B Dubs is on
the list.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Oh fuck off B Dubs. I used to love be
Dubs till till about five seconds here. Thanks well.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Jeff Topes has said the Survivor will keep DEI and
all that, so we we gotta bring back Survivor.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Tim all right, and Apple Products too is keeping de I,
so let's go Apple.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Hey, Zach, well you should switch over, Zach Zack. Do
you want to tell us some social media stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
Yeah, so as much at the side of the show
that apparently Devin was going off on Sam on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (01:01:56):
I looked into it on a few signything else Tim.

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
I thought it was pretty tam like I was expecting
him to be, like, they're cussing her out, ripping or
a new one, but it seems like he's just continue
what he'd done on the show, just kind of complaining that,
oh she broke my heart.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
I was such a same guy and he's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Doing this holier than now. Ship. I'm just just really
hurt my feelings, Just hurt my feelings. Sam. Yeah, nothing's
doing the same thing, like, oh, Sam should have stood
up for me more and then blah blah. I don't know.
I just don't buy it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I think the other thing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
I think this happened after our last episode.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
But uh, I had to steal some stuff recently because uh,
both Spotify and YouTube took down Turbo's hit song wind
Me Dying Me because they said it was too crass
and crude.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
So I had to go find it and steal the
original version back.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
You got it?

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
I did, I went, I went.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
I found somewhere to rip it off online because he's
replaced it online with a song called like hug Me
Kiss Me to have like you know, like eating pussy,
it's now about petting cats.

Speaker 3 (01:03:06):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Za.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
You gotta save that and you're like forgotten media folder
because someday somebody's gonna hear that song. You'll have the
only copy in the world.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
Yes, I thought, there's a couple of people that have
uploaded it illegally on YouTube. But I was like, I
don't know how long this is gonna be up here
for us. I need I need my own saved copy
just in case.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Yeah you should. But you guys remember that Black Eyed
Peas song Let's Let's get It started. Yes, that's not
the real that's not the real version of the song, right,
you guys know that I didn't. Seriously, this is lost,
this is lost for the ages. But the real song,
the original song was Let's get Retarded. I'm not fucking around,
I'm serious. But you can't find it anywhere. That's like,

(01:03:47):
it's like nearly impossible to find the the Let's get
Retarded version.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
I've heard this, Now that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
You say that, I do remember.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
I remember them saying that let's get I've heard this song.
I thought, that's how I heard the song.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
That's how it that's the started. Is the is the
radio edit. But it became like sort of like over sculpted,
and now we now retarded as like you're not supposed
to say it, So now you can't like listen to
that version of it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Trust this, So if you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
If you find that old version, you gotta save it forever.
Just like the Turbo singing about sixty nine.

Speaker 5 (01:04:20):
Y listen, Like, there's a lot of bad things going
on with Takeaway the DEI, but there's some good things
that we need to protect, like Turbo and Black Eyed
Peas also have their controversial songs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
I agree, Zach, we agree. Yes, all right, look at that.
I see.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Uh, Tim's right, We're We're not done though, Carlin, do
you want to give us the Fantasy League updates?

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Wait? Tell me how?

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I am right? I just looked it up on the Wikipedia.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Yeah, yep, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
Sometimes the thing that goes before.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
Did you know they they censored They made the Spice
Girls change a song Becau because they had a line
in one other songs that said boys and girls go
good together.

Speaker 4 (01:05:03):
And they're like, oh, that's homophobic, you have to change it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Yeah, I see, that's stupid, that's too far. I also
I also think, like you know, some of these old
TV shows you can't find them on like Hulu and stuff.
I even like Sunny and Philadelphia and stuff like that,
because they are like they're racist and homophoby. But it's like,
I don't know, I don't know if I agree with like,
you just can't see it anymore. I don't know that
seems like that seems weird.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
I haven't left.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
I think I've heard the Camilla stuff has been taken
off of, like Paramount.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I mean we saw what
they did, like d you know, yes, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Challenge or the Fantasy leagues. Uh, the host League. I
don't know why we even do the Private.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Host League last and we're done. We're done. Oh my god,
fuck you, Zach.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
The Private Host League is is completely pointless.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Guy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
I just want to come in not last. Can I
just come in not last before we call it off?

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I mean, I can give you all of my players
and I'll come in last. Like, I don't think it's
gonna help you, Zach. Zach is like two hundred points
above almost all of us. Jack is in at seven
of six, Wolf he's in at five, at five sixty eight,
I'm at five sixteen, and Big Uncle Sweet Tee's at
four forty six.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
And just give you guys all my team except Adam
and Steve because they're just gonna win every single elimination
in the entire season and.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Yeah, you did have both Adam and Steve Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
So I just I think that the I I don't
care about that league anymore. The one that everybody cares about,
the one that's actually fun to play, is the Public League.
So this week, and I like this little update that
Peter has made to it. It now shows you how
many places up or down so in the in the

(01:06:55):
Fantasy League, Kiki one more time is still in first place,
which I mean, girl, like you were complaining about people
in other leagues cheating, Like you sure you're not cheating
because you're you've been in first place for like three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Now you gotta be cheating. Kick her out, kick her out,
booter the season, first place, three weeks in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
It's gotta be cheating, obviously, I'm kidding, clearly kidding, clearly kidding,
all right. Second place is the Pussy Chickens, and third
place is Take the Stars and Run, which I like
that name. And then we've got Peter b who I
think is the owner of the of the whole site.

(01:07:34):
He's in at fifth Nanna Your Business, which I like
that team name too, the the host team.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
I was gonna say, so I saw I was look
at the list earlier.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
I didn't realize Garrett who we had on last week
because I touched Johnny's banana. I feel like we didn't
have enough bananas talk between him and I last week.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
I don't think he really did it. I don't think
he really touched. He might want a banana.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
So you can you can take this offline with Garrett Darrett,
We're not on the pod.

Speaker 4 (01:08:09):
When you listen to this, Garrett, tell me, are you
a bananas fan?

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Are we bonded? Fill us in later that I want
to know the details later I can. I don't need
to know at the time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
But how they about Johnny's banana or about the Banana's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Talk, the banana talk cat we know whatever they ended up?

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
You know what? Oh my god? Who is leading?

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
So the host league or the host team? We are
in ninth place. We dropped on four spots this week.
We had Who did we have on our team? We
had Ashley Kelsey, Dario Devon and Nanny. I don't know
why Ashley was on there. She was useless. As episode.

(01:08:55):
I'm in twelfth, Zachie Banana's Zaki's Angels is in sixteenth.
WOLFI is in twenty first, Big Uncle Sweet Tea's in
twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
Way Downay down.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Big Uncle Sweet Tea. You came up three spots.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
You know, I'm adjusting my gameplay. I'm going for it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Damn dude. You got one hundred and forty three points
this last episode.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Yeah, dude, I'm going for it. I'm not doing my
FESSI and Steve Nice, I'm not doing my slow play. Shit.
I'm going for it. Man, I'm here.

Speaker 5 (01:09:26):
He has a bomber because I've I've twice this season
I forgot to do a lineup, and I'm like, man,
I'd be winning if it wasn't for that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
I only just I only I forgot the lineup once,
but I was slow playing it and I was still
kind of low in the ranks, and then I forgotten.
Now I'm all fucked up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Coming back to Zachie's Zach's Zach's people this past week
were Amber, Curly Fries, Dario, Devin, and Leroy. Leroy only
got eleven points this last episode.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Wow, Yeah, surprising. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
I thought they'd do really well because we saw in
the preview last week that we saw the big fight
between Devin and Darius. I thought they'd get big points.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Yeah, I thought that that Leroy would have had more
points than that, but I guess he's just too chill
of a person. Wolf. He chose Ashley, Devon, Frank and Katie.
And who did I pick? I picked? I had Daria, Devon,
Nicole and Turbo. I don't really know why. I had
Nicole and Turbo, and there Turbo got thirteen points. It's

(01:10:25):
like picking Ashley picking Leroy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
But he also had the best, you know, confessional of
the week.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
No, we need to cancel one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Oh, I forgot that he even had a confessional. All right, it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Tids everybody already had ever challenge by dot com dot
the Facebook traf. You can also join Patreon. Uh, I
guess for this episode of Challenged, it's been Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Big Ogle, Sweet teen, Carl in San Diego, Zachie Bananas
and is Adam said, Uh, let's go fuck up that plumbing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Back at the house.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
I hope that's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
That's sucking outro. I swear to god, I got sort s.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Learner me.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Doubled up.

Speaker 4 (01:11:25):
Yeah, that's weird.