Episode 2: Caddyshack (1980)

Mark, Chris, and Mike continue their deep dive into the films of Chevy Chase with one of his biggest hits when he played golf enthusiast Ty Webb in Harold Ramis's seminal slobs vs. snobs comedy Caddyshack. A rather odd mix of talents, Chase was in danger of being eclipsed by his fellow actors, especially Rodney Dangerfield, Ted Knight, Bill Murray, and a gopher. 

Episode Transcript

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Weird way. Hello everyone, andwelcome to the Chasing Chevy Podcast, a

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podcast where we chase after Chevy Chaseand ask him questions. No, it's
a it's a It's a podcast wherewe take a look at Chevy Chase movies
that he was ostensibly the lead orthey were vehicles for him. However,
on this episode, we're not evengonna talk about a movie that he was
the lead in. We're gonna betalking about nineteen eighties caddy Shack. I'm
the host of the Culture Cast,and I'm who am i Christachue, and

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I'm joined by my two good friends. All the way from Wake Up Heavy,
Mark Begley, This is in Russia? Is this Russia? And all
the way from the projection booth.He chases after Chevy harder than anybody else.
Your friend of mine, mister MikeWhite. I only chase after him
when I'm not stoned to the bitJesus belt. Yeah, And if you
don't know, like I said,what we're gonna be talking about on this

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episode, we will be talking aboutnineteen eighties caddy Shack. Some people belong
to the Bushwood Country Club for thefine cuisine this stakes to has March when
the jockey was hitting. Some belongedfor the stimulating conversation, I might think
I will, and some just don'tbelong. Do you think i'd join?
Is Chrummy Snobbatorium caddy Shack, starringChevy Chase, Rodney Dangerfield, Ted Knight,

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and Bill Murray as Carl. It'sthe snobs against the slots in Caddyshack,
righted R. No, we willnot be talking about the sequel.
Why because we'll be talking about thesequel eventually. Because chevy Chase is also
technically in the sequel. Uh so, yeah, boy did he do all
him? Did he record all hisscenes? You know, in a room

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off with no one else? Isthat the technically in that? Yeah?
Right? I actually don't know.That's a good question. I never seen
it. I saw Caddyshack two onetime, and I don't remember much positive
about it. But I've seen Caddyshackone plenty of times, which is what
we will be talking about on thisepisode. So the original Caddyshack is directed

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by Harold Ramis, written by BrianDoyle, Murray, Harold Ramis and Doug
Kenny, and its stars, likewe've already mentioned, Chevy Chase Rodney Dangerfield,
Ted Knight, Bill Murray, MichaelO'Keeffe, Sarah Holcome, a lot
of people. There are a lotof people we're gonna be talking about.
I don't know how we're gonna talkabout this movie because I think we're all
three of us are coming at itfrom very different directions. So I'm curious

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kind of feelings and thoughts. Butthe person who I think I'm most curious
because I know you're the one whodidn't have the most experienced with this movie
outright, Mike, tell me whatyou thought about Caddy Shak the first time
you saw it and rewatching it now. I will admit that I saw the
baby Ruth scene many many times forwhatever reason. But I guess my folks

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really like that scene or something.But yeah, this was only the second
time I've ever actually sat down andwatched this movie all the way through.
And it's a strange movie. Itis such a strange movie. I was
reading, well, I've read afew books about Chevy Chase. It like
Wild and Crazy Guys, and thenthere's I'm Chevy Chase and You're Not book,

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which is it doesn't even pretend towrite that book. It just feels
like it's all written from third personby the ghostwriter. There was a lot
of debate in the Wild and CrazyGuys book about who is the actual protagonist
of this movie. Is a ChammyChase, Is it Rodny Dangerfield? I
don't even know if they mentioned orMichael O'Keefe, who I think should be

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the protagonist of this. The moviestarts with him and kind of follows him
through this, but the guest starsor whatever you want to call, like
Chase, Dangerfield, night Bill Murray, they take up so much room that
it really kind of edges your protagonistout of the spotlight through this entire movie.

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It's almost odd when you had thescenes with Danny Noonan, especially when
you have the scenes of Danny Noonanand Maggie o'hold again, what are these
things? This is crazy trying totake my lucky charms. That's a lot
like like does she usually speak withthis accent? Or yeah, it was

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It was odd. It's an oddmovie. I mean, there are great
parts to it, but that's whatthis is. This is a whole lot
of great part and then there's somelike hearts through it. But overall,
I think it holds up and thosegreat parts are pretty fantastic. I mean
fucking Rodney Dangerfield and Ted Knight goingat it. I would have loved to

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have just had a whole movie ofthose two because this movie really sets up
I know, like Animal House hadthe snobs versus the slobs thing. This
one really plays into it in thethird act of it. But yeah,
it's pretty wild to just see howuneven this movie is. Mark Begley,
same question directed at user, Well, I want to get back to all

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of the stuff that Mike talks aboutbecause it's stuff that I didn't notice as
a kid. I've seen this movieI don't know how many times, at
least twenty five, I would sayover the years, just because it was
one of those constant rentals back inthe VHS days. But this holds the

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honor of being the first rated Rmovie that I saw in the theater,
So it holds that place in myheart and soul. And it was between
this and Blues Brothers that came outthe same summer. And as I've mentioned,
I think I mentioned on the firstepisode of this series that I was
a big SNL fan, even thoughI barely watched the show, but I

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was into all the people that wereon it. So if they had a
movie out that I could see,I wanted to see it. And I
think previous to this, the onlyone that I really could see was nineteen
forty one, which I'm still abig fan of, and I may have
seen Foul Play on TV if ithad played prior to nineteen eighty or around
nineteen eighty. I don't know whatthe impetus was for my mom to decide

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to take me and my sister toa rate in ar movie. If we
were clamoring to see one or bothof these films, and it was like,
Okay, we'll pick one and we'llgo see it. And we picked
Caddie Shack, which later in lifeI feel was a mistake because I much
prefer the Blues brother and became obsessedwith the Blues Brothers back then. Even

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though I didn't see the movie,I had the album. I read the
book, Oh Nice. I don'tknow how many times I'm still trying to
track down a copy of the novelization. The novelization, it's expensive. I
bought it for a friend of mine. Yeah, it's crazy pricey. Yeah,
I remember enjoying it immensely, probablymainly because of Chevy Chase and Bull

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Murray being in. It was incrediblyuncomfortable during the sex scenes, and like
I said, it just became somethingthat you watched all constantly. Vha,
I don't. I've probably played oncable all the time. We didn't have
cable until I was older, butjust saw it tons and tons. In
recent years have been noticing those odditiesthat Mike mentioned, and I think it's

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an interesting that part of the backstoryor the behind the scenes is interesting,
which I hope we could too.We kind of have to write. I
mean that's our job. We gotOkay, what about you, Chris?
Funny enough. I actually read thatthe Krishnadawadi book The Caddyshack Making of a

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Hollywood Cinderella Story. I read thatbook when it came out a couple of
years ago, and I rewatched Caddyshackfair amount of times around that time when
I was watching the book. SoI think, similarly to you, Mark,
I was like, do I evenneed to sit down and watch this
movie today? Because I've seen thismovie so many times. It was definitely

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something that when I was in college, my freshman roommate who would then be
a groomsman in our wedding. Himand I would quote Caddyshack all the time.
I don't know why. It's notlike the two of us watched it
together at any point. I thinkwe just both had it as a frame
of reference. At me, especiallyRodney Dangerfield, who I think, for

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me is the best part of themovie. He's not the lead of the
movie by any stretch of the AMA. I think this movie, this movie
fails as a movie, which isa really fucked up thing to say about
a movie that I enjoy. ButI think it's more fun as just a
bunch of vignettes loosely held together bythe setting, as opposed to again,

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like we've kind of already gotten intowith Michael O'Keefe just kind of being there,
just there to be there. ButI mean, I do remember relentlessly
quoting woa did somebody step on aduck? And I'll you know it looks
good on you? Though you knowall of that. I mean, everything
that Rodney Dangerfield has has in thismovie, every tool that he has,

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he uses really well. And Ifind it really funny because one of the
early stories in that Caddyshack book islike the first day on set Rodney Dangerfield,
because I guess this was his firstmovie. He was not used to
people not laughing at his jokes,and so he did not realize that people
weren't like he didn't I guess hedidn't two and two together, like they're

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not gonna laugh because that's not thepoint. You're in the scene and you're
delivering the lines, mister Dangerfield,so deliver the goddamn lines. And he
was like, I guess, havinganxiety about people not reacting to him telling
his lines, and it's like,dude, it's because you're not doing a
stand up bit. This is amovie. So I think that kind of
like cuts to the core of theidea of like the people making this movie

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probably were a little bit in overtheir heads. And I think that the
Cadyshack book kind of speaks to thata little bit. But I think that
the movie that you get on theother end is called is kind of also
a product of that because it isan extremely messy movie. It is and
I think even fans of the moviewould agree that's an extremely messy movie.
It is very muddy in terms ofloot. If there is a plot,

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who the like to the like We'vealready mentioned who the main characters are.
But I mean, I think ithas it has staying power because of all
of those disparate parts working in spiteof the fact that most of the time
these kinds of things don't work thisway or they don't kind of hum along
as well as this movie does.But all of that to say, I
mean, Caddyshack is a movie thatI definitely enjoy. Is it in my

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top five comedies? Not really?Is it even in my top five Chevy
Chase performances. Definitely not for anumber of reasons. But I think it's
a fun movie. It's just notmuch of a narrative piece, but that's
okay. But I think it's rememberedmore as I think it's remembered differently than
it maybe is received, if thatmakes sense. And for my crowd,

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it was the Bill Murray lines thatgot quoted back and forth all the time,
that opening when he's cleaning the golfball and talking about the old women
on the course, and of coursethe Cinderell story, all the stuff in
the hut that Chevy is playing through. Those were the lines that's stuck with
my friends and I, Yeah,there's a lot of quotable lines in this.

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While I was watching it, thinkyou know, things I'm not even
familiar with. And then even shotsthat I forget are in here, like
the guy on the boat who doesthe eyepop thing, Like I've seen that
so many times as a meme,and I forget what it's from. Yeah,
yeah, I thought the same thingyesterday. I'm like, oh,
yeah, he's from this, notJaws or something, you know, something

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else, police squad or whatever.He feels like he came out of police
Squad totally. Yeah. I mean, the just that they go to the
yacht club, I was like,whoa are we in a different movie?
Is this one crazy summer all ofa sudden? But yeah, it's it's
again. It's all over the place, and it's I mean again, I
I I think we know why.It's just because the movie's trying to be

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so inclusive to all these storylines.But it does feel like it doesn't really
know what it wants to be.It does feel more like a not like
a vignette movie, but I meankind of. It's I would say it's
much more of an ensemble cast.It's just normally when you have an ensemble
cast. You tend to have thatensemble cast interacting on screen together more than

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kind of popping in and out ofeach other's stories, because that it ends
up feeling like the Michael O'Keeffe characteris just kind of coming in and out
of other people's. Other people's storiesthat are the you know, the established
stars of the movies, the RodneyDangerfield, the Ted Knight, the Chevy
Chase. I mean, just lookat the fucking poster for the movie,
Like Michael O'Keeffe is not on theposter. Bill Murray, Ted Knight,

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Chevy Chase, and Rodney Dangerfield areon the poster. And I mean,
of those four, chevy Chase isthe one who's in the movie the least.
I mean, you could make thecase that we shouldn't even be talking
about this movie. I mean,will probably never be given another opportunity to
talk about this movie, so that'swhy we're doing it now. But to
talk about this as a chevy Chasemovie, it is not a Chevy Chase

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his I would even go as faras to say his role in this movie
is completely unnecessary, only because againit takes away some of the auto economy
from the Michael O'Keeffe character, andit kind of gives I wouldn't say it
gives his plot to somebody else,but again, it just makes him kind
of a spectator to a lot ofthis going on. And then it's like,

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oh, yeah, by the way, he's the one doing the golf
tournament. Okay, right, andit's like, I mean, did we
forget that he that there are otherpeople in this movie, because I just
don't understand what I never understood whatthe point of having him in this movie
is if well, if it's everything, I mean, unless he's supposed to
be the audience analogue, which again, these people were humans, not aliens

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from Mars. I think originally hewas just supposed to have a cameo.
And Okay, a lot of thisis from IMDb, so take it with
a grain of salt, but Ithink quite a bit of it is pulled
from that book that you're talking about, Chris, that he all the people
that become leads in this were cameoor minor characters. And this scrip just

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kept getting rewritten. Bill Murray wasn'tsupposed to have any lines the film,
right, and that stuff got youknow, redone and improvised and all that
stuff. It was supposed to bethe Danny versus Tony story, basically that
caddy Shack tournament that gets like twominutes of screen time. Yeah, was

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the goal, and I always watchingit when I was younger. I was
thinking, well, why are allthese adults in the caddy Shack tournament,
because I forget they already did theCaddyshack tournament between Tony and him, and
he gets his little trophy and thenwe're done, and that's the only time
that like Danny's parents make another appearance. They disappear after that first scene.

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It was supposed to be. Itwas supposed to be his coming of age
story, and that's why there's stillbits and pieces of it in there.
The opening with the huge family,you know, talking about going to college,
which gets strung through the rest ofthe movie. That's his arc,
I guess, of deciding whether hewants to actually go to college or not.

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The Maggie thing, which gets shortshrift in the film, was probably
more fleshed out in the script.Yeah, you know, you've got that
horrible oh I'm pregnant trope from theeighties in there, and which is almost
immediately taken away, like right.It feels like five minutes later she's dancing
around. Oh what's going on?Oh I'm not pregnant anymore. Yeah,

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And I think that was a reshootor something they went back and did,
because I'm pretty sure he's wearing awig under that hat doing the pulling to
Andrew McCarthy and pretty in pink dealthere, and so you know, that
may have gone a different direction inthe original script. Who knows, because
then he's got a Oh I gotto get a job now because I got
a kid on the way or somethinglike that. Who you know, I

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don't know. I have no idea, but it's it's weird. He threw
every like stereotypical thing into the intothe mix in this movie. For Michael
o'keeff, it's like, why Isee the Chivvy Chase characters being like a
mentor and your life could go thisway. He's an interesting character to me

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because there is, like I said, the whole snobs versus slobs thing,
and you've got Dangerfield who has allthis money, he's got the condos,
and he's just super ghost. Imean, he really isn't a slob quote
unquote as far as he's got tonsof money, right, it's that he's
you know, just handing out.You know, he's given away, you
know, twenty dollars just because theguy's keeping the ice cold, the ice

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cubes cold, those kind of things. And you got Ted Knight, who
seems very well to do as well. You know, he's the judge and
he's at the country club. Andthen you got Ty Webb, the Chamby
Chase character, who it's like whathe's got that line about like, oh,
yeah, I own a couple lumberyards. I don't know where they are.
I mean, he is super wealthy, but he doesn't act like it.

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And he just seems like this kindof zend out guy who just wants
to golf, and like there's abackstory there as far as why he won't
golf for money, but we neverget that, which is just strange.
But for some reason, people,yeah, for some reason, there's a
connection between him and Danny, andit's like, Okay, it's like,

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is this the path that he couldgo? But it really it doesn't hold
much water. It feels like theseare different areas that Danny could go to.
But at the same time, he'snot rich, and everybody in this
circle of these golfers are super rich. I mean, it really does feel
like what this was, which wasall of the writers had been caddies and

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they're just bringing all these stories togetherand just throwing them out there. But
it feels like they read the Sidfieldbook and they're like, oh, well,
we need to have something to hookall this stuff onto, and that's
the Danny's story. And yeah,I totally agree. Like the Danny versus
Tony stuff, it's like, okay, yeah, this maybe should have been
the movie, but it's definitely notthat movie. Well, I don't know,

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like I don't think that that.I mean, as much as I
like Scott Colombie as Tony d Nunzio, which he is great, I mean
that's it's kind of a shame thathe is kind of as an as perfectly
antagonistic as he is, because it'slike it's kind of wasted in this movie
because again, like the Ted Knightplays such a perfect bastard. Oh yes

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that that almost anybody else in themovie well waiting, I mean, it's
one of my ever I mean it'sI mean, it's like it's it's shit
like that in this movie that Iremember, and it's that Ted Knight's face
delivering that line, because he's justso perfect. That's like nothing else in
terms of an antagonist in this movieeven matters if you have Ted Knight operating

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at full capacity. And Frankly,I mean again to your point. You
know, the Thai Web character Ithink is so interesting because he's so strange,
but at the end of the day, he also is just chevy Chase.
Like it's it's like such peak chevyChase that if he I'm surprised Frankly
in this watch so that he didn'tjust look at the camera and go and
you know, I am chevy Chaseright, like you know what I mean.

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Like it it's so because we talkedabout it a little bit in foul
Play when he is doing the kindof prat falls into the water and we
were like, oh, that's youknow, that's the chevy Chase thing.
This is also so the chevy Chasething. This is the dialogue equivalent of
the physical prat falling, Like thisis the you know, the cool,
disinterested and pithy guy, and it'sthis entire I mean, it's his entire

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role. This There is never amoment in this movie where someone one gets
one up on Chevy Chase at all, thank you very little. Did you
see the new sidelines from this weekas we're recording this, that he fell
off the stage someplace and I'm justnow, I mean, the guy's old.
I'm like, give up the GeraldFord impersonations please. Yeah. He

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does a little bit in the inthe shrivery in this one, and I
oh, yeah, I roll myeyes every time. It just isn't funny
to me. Well, it's justa shtick. It's his thick his pithy
lines are but this isn't. Andyeah it's not Buster Keaton. I mean,
Wester Keaton could take a fall likenobody's business, and I guess it's
yeah, it is his stick thathe's going to fall falling down. Is

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falling down is not inherently funny tome for some or whatever reason. So
it just never lands, never lands. Well, it's like in Fletch when
he's walking and his head gets caughtin the lamp shade thing. I think
about that scene. I'm just like, what the fuck is the point of
this. Oh, it's it's partof his stick from the SNL and you
know that from the seventies. ButI mean I think him being kind of

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cool and disinterested is I mean,it's a cool he's a cool character.
He's a cool customer in this movie. But I also think that if he
had been the main character, Ithink it might have gotten real old,
real fast, because I'm not surehow much of a real character there is
lurking behind what they've kind of whatthey have him drifted out of the movie
doing, because what he's doing inevery scene is more or less the same

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thing. Like it's there's not anydimensionality to the character. But that's okay.
I mean, I'm not sure thatthere's a lot of dimensionality to Fletch
or Clark Grizzly. I mean,maybe Clark Griswold might be the kind of
exception there. But I don't necessarilygo into Chevy Chase movies going why can't
wait to see the depth of characterto this. It's like it's you're there

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for those one liners. I mean, you're really there for the one liners
with Chevy Chase as far as I'mconcerned, Like even his physical comedy,
it's fine, but I don't thinkhe was doing it any better than anybody
else. I like that they tossedMurray and Chase together in a scene.
Yeah, since they didn't like eachother well, and that they realized that
they hadn't been in a scene togetheror something. But there is there's all

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these cut scenes or I don't know, they must have been cut because they
exist, and I don't think theywere shot just for the TV version.
But if you go out and youlook on you two, there's alternate and
deleted scenes from the TV version ofCaddy Shack, And there's a whole thing
of Tie showing I can't remember ifhe's showing Bill Murray how to hit a

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golf ball, but like, BillMurray's on this incredibly huge mower and he
comes in and Danny is caddying.I can kind of picture where the scene
would fit. Danny's caddying four tieand Bill Murray gets off the mower and
he's hitting this golf ball. Andat one point, these golfers across the
lake hit a ball and somebody justoffscreen tosses the ball to Chevy Chase and

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he takes it and he puts itdown on the ground for Carl to hit,
and of course all the other golfersare going crazy because it's like no,
no, you can't hit our ball, and he was just hitting some
balls. And then once these guysstart chasing or coming around the pond,
Chevy Chase gets onto the mower withCarl and off they go. So I'm
like, okay, well they hadtwo scenes together, but one of them

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wasn't very funny at all. AndI like the whole thing of being in
Carl's Layer. Carls Layer is fantastic. That's one of my favorites. Yeah,
oh yeah, I love that.I love the whole Cinderella story.
I mean, Bill Murray was justhe made such an impression on this movie.
Yeah, That's what I remember asa kid, was him. Mostly

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it's because he's silly, right likehe he's clearly like this. I mean,
he's the silliest one of the moviebecause his character is just I like
the Bill Murray character. I do. There is some there have been times
where I've watched this movie where I'veprobably zoned out, if not tuned out
of those scenes completely, because thereare times when I've watched this movie and
I've not necessarily been as inclined towatch Bill Murray just doing the doing the

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Bill Murray thing. I mean,it's his thing. Right, like if
chevy Chase has his thing, BillMurray as his thing. I mean again,
for me, I think it comesback to the Rodney Dangerfield and Ted
Knight. I would watch a movieof just the two of them, yeah,
going back and forth, just beingcomplete dickheads to each other, Like
I would watch that movie, andI think for me, those are the

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moments in this movie that are reallyfun. Are anytime that it's the two
of them kind of going back andforth or in a scene together with some
of the other players. Because towardsthe end of the movie they start sharing
more scenes together. And I yeah, for me, I mean Bill Murray
and Chevy Chase, it's they almostfeel like the distractions more than anything else,

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because they are the real cameos ofthe movie, not Ted Knight in
Dangerfield like they I mean, they'rethere for a fair portion of the movie.
I mean Rodney, I would say, as far as Rodney, Dangerfield
is in almost every scene that TedKnight is it other than some of the
moments with Michael O'Keeffe, but theyare almost in every scene together for the

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most part. Yeah, they're theyin and yang of the country club.
Although, oh, Dangerfield isn't Tomemberand wouldn't ever be. But it's the
old money versus new money too.You know, this is nineteen eighty a
real estate's hot. I think there'sa guy in New York who's doing a
lot of real estate deals. Ican't remember his name at this time,
but yeah, it's like he basicallyis representing that new money where Ted Knight

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is the old money, you know, established family, the people that he
surrounds himself with, the I can'tremember. He's not a priest, he's
like a bishop or something. Andthen the doctor doctor Beeper a little on
the nose of doctor Beeper, butokay, it's as well as Lacy Underall.
O god, Yeah, that wholeLacy Underall's character is a very problematic

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for me, just this whole thatboth Danny and Todd. I mean,
everybody lusts after her, but thatDanny is trying to get with her.
So yeah, of course she gotyou know, the good girl who apparently
puts out though the Scottish lass versusthe kind of town bicycle with with Lacy

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Underall. And then that I don'tthink Danny ends up sleeping with her,
but definitely Ty Webb ends up sleepingwith her, and I'm just like,
well, that's an odd thing.You know. Again, it's like you
would think he would feel Danny wouldfeel betrayed or something, but I don't
think there's any sort of emotional attachmentto her whatsoever. It's like, I
mean, the Michael O'Keeffe character andeverything with Lacy Anderoll just feels like a

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diversion into that one crazy summer,like you know, like let's let's give
some wish fulfillment and oh that girl, that one girl that came to town
for the summer, and oh,you get to hook up with her,
and uh, you know, andyour girlfriend doesn't really care. And it's
like it's all of that. It'sthose wish fulfillment things that come from like

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like parts of this movie feel likea summer camp movie or like a camp
movie almost. Like all of thestuff at the Caddy Shack with Brian Doyle
Murray feels like like a summer campor like a camp movie, just the
way that they're interacting with each otherand everybody kind of constantly posturing. And
again, I think that there's actuallyan interesting and fun movie there as well
with those personalities at the caddy shack. It's just they never give it's it's

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almost like the movie is just hasadhd. And I mean, given the
people that wrote it and the amountof cocaine that they were doing, Yeah
nose candy nineteen eighty Hello cocaine.Yeah, it's not even us saying that.
Like in the book they talk abouthow much coke that these people were
doing, so they were up totheir eyeballs and the white stuff. So

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I'm sure that that affected a lotof this. But at the same time,
the movie feels like it's on cocainebecause it's just ping ponging around all
over the place and never I mean, wow, that's the thing like it
it never sits long enough to establishwhat it wants to do. But I

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think it works in spite of that, and I think this this kind of
movie. It's it's hard to doorganically, it really is, and they
managed to again make it work forthe most part. But again there's also
icon I mean the iconic moments ofthe duty, the baby Ruth thing like
you mentioned, Mike, like thatcan be taken out of context and laughed

(29:00):
at. So at least the moviethe movie has some staying power without I
guess like the quotability, and obviously, I mean we haven't even mentioned it.
That mother fucking gopher puppet Oh JesusChrist, which opens the fucking film
and closes the film. I mean, he's the last thing that you see.
I mean, that odd, oddending with the two goons chasing after

(29:26):
ten night and then Rodney Dangerfield standingon the golf course apparently alone, but
then all of a sudden he justgoes, hey, everybody, let's get
late, and then there's everyone there. I'm like, what what just happened?
So I was eleven when we sawthis, and I loved that damn
Gopher, so of course I gotGopher and the Kenny Logins song are fucking

(29:48):
legit, man, I mean thatLoggin's tune this started him, you know,
like between this and Footloose and topGun. Fuck. Yeah, Kenny
Logins owned the nineteen eighties, man, yep, I had, yeah,
I had the single, had thelong form of the single with the choral

(30:08):
stuff at the beginning that opens themovie, and I have the song on
my phone now and it doesn't havethat. So I need to track down
that longer version because I love thechoral opening. What strange end credits.
Storry to pick on the end creditsfor this movie, but the end credits
are bizarre for me because usually inend credits now they list all the songs
in the order in which they wereplayed in the movie. This is completely

(30:32):
the opposite because it ends with I'mall right, which started the movie,
and like, oh, well,that's kind of weird. We should probably
the placement. The cast placement isweird too. In the credits, it's
like, way after all this otherstuff and then it's like the full cast.
Yeah, yeah, it sorted tointerrupt. No, no, I
was just going to bring up JohnPeters. You guys are talking about cocaine,

(30:52):
and that reminded me that this isa John Peters choint. This is
the movie he also made the sameyear as one of my favorite films in
the entire world, Die Laughing,which was the movie with Robbie Benson where
he plays a Russian cab driver whoends up finding a monkey that knows the
world's nuclear secrets. It's did awhole episode on it. Apparently I tossed

(31:15):
off the director quite a bit becauseI was making fun of the movie in
a loving way because I love thatmovie, he didn't think it was a
loving tribute to it, and thenhe would go on right after Caddyshack to
do American World in London. Imean, the guy is all over the
place as far as the quality ofhis filmography. But interesting person, let's

(31:37):
just say that, Yeah, isn'tisn't that the guy that what's his name?
Supposed to be in sal Rubinik inTrue Romance? I think that's Jerry
Silver latest Paul Thomas Anderson movie whichI know, Oh, the Chris Pizza
I haven't seen it, of course, but what's his name? Bradley Cooper.
Isn't he John Peters in that movie? I think so? Yeah?

(32:00):
Yeah, huh yeah. I findit amusing because again, like I feel
like, if if you know nothingelse about this movie, you know about
The Gopher, yeah, oh yeahright. But I but for me,
it's like again now with a fairamount of time since the movie has come
out, obviously, I do wonderlike, what is that The reference point

(32:21):
for anybody at this point is justthat song, the Kenny Loggins song and
the Gopher. Oh fuck, Iforgot about the is it? Is it?
No? No? I'm sorry,I sorry to interrupt you with wrong
information. I was thinking of thevacation theme, but that's Lindsey Buckingham.
Buckingham. Sorry, I'm sorry,Chris Well. Let me interrupt you with
the story. So about six monthsago, my wife and I were in

(32:44):
Omaha, Nebraska, and we walkedinto a Saint Vincent de Paul thrift store
and I was wandering around the storelooking for something to buy and I came
upon this whowing fucking any thing thatalso say why anymore? Yeah, and

(33:05):
it just it just goes and itdances, and I was thinking to myself,
alazing, is that What is that? What people know Caddyshack for is
the fucking gopher? Is that whatit is like? And that's so weird
to me because again, like it, I think it further reinforces kind of
my point of like, this moviereally has no idea what it wants to
be because I cannot believe that thereis a fucking animatronic gopher in it.

(33:27):
It's kind of defies explanation in alot of ways because that is Bill Murray's
antagonist throughout the entire movie, isthis animatronic terrible gopher puppet. To the
point where it's like it's not terrible. No, it's great, especially when
it coughs dust at the end.It's got moves, man, Yeah,
I know, I watched it dancejust now. It has the puppet.

(33:51):
The toy that I have for sixdollars has as much range as the puppet
did in the movie. I'm aware. What is Bill Murray talking about the
Gopher oon tang? What he justsays things like some of this movie is
just people just saying stuff. Idon't know how else to like, how
else to describe chevy Chase as justlike train of thought man, sometimes like

(34:14):
he just you know, thank youvery little. You're a tremendous slouch like
that. I've you know, asmuch as I I know that the script
for this movie was written by DougKenny. Like you know that chevy Chase
was just going, just just going, Like when he's putting his arm around
Ted Knight towards the end of themovie, It's like, this is just
chevy Chase fucking around. Well,Doug Kenny was a big fan of that

(34:37):
gopher. From everything I've read,what was the what is the Doug Kenny
story? Because I know the name, and isn't he part of that whole
yeah, like the Stone whatever thatthat movie was. He's part of the
National a movie. There's a moviecalled Delta House. No, that was
a TV sho. There's a moviewith Will Forte playing him. That's what

(35:04):
I'm trying to come up with,the Stoned, you know. That's that's
the documentary about a futile and stupidgesture. The one you're talking about is
the documentary about National Lampoon, whichis good. The biography movie with Will
Forte is okay. I watched it, actually, Chris because of my interest
in Peter Ivers because he was connectedwith all those guys and is actually in

(35:30):
the movie played by I think playedby the guy from it that played Wouldn't
that be something Will Force could playChevy Chase pretty well? I would think
it's boy. Yeah, he's gotbig time energy and plus he studied him

(35:54):
all those years on Community. Yeah, studied him a nice way. So
anyway, yeah, that Lampoon gang. So that's the connection between him and
Murray and or the Murray brothers andeverybody else. Oh my god, Brian
to old Murray looks like a babyin this movie, even with that mustache,

(36:16):
that horrible mustache, and that thoseeyebrows that connected the middle, but
he just he was almost unrecognizable exceptfor the voice. Yeah. Yeah,
when I I didn't even know whohe was when I was a kid,
Like I didn't realize that Bill Murrayeven had a brother until years later and
then seeing it later on going oh, he's in this because I saw his

(36:37):
name on the credits, you know, as a writer, But didn't did
never made the connection. Well,they have a few brothers, don't they
isn't one of the lot like movingviolations or something. That's what the Noonan
Family is based on. At thatopening. That's why there's so many kids
in that house. It seems tobe like the eight Murray kids. Oh
Jesus, okay, you know,the big Irish American family. And you

(36:59):
know, poor Albert Selmi gets liketwo minutes of screen time because of that,
because I'm sure they had other stuffin there too, probably Danny at
home arguing with his parents more andall that stuff got cut out for Chivy
and Rodney and Bill. Yeah,the people on the poster, like you
said, yep, so we haven't. We haven't mentioned Harold raymis a whole

(37:21):
lot yet. But I kind ofI was curious, you know, because
again, obviously he would go onto direct a fair number of things.
Does he bring a whole lot tothis movie as a director, maybe,
I mean, you know what Imean, Like I I because again,
like the movie almost feels like itkind of directs itself. I don't know,
like, you know what I mean, there's a lot of just I

(37:44):
this is such a weird, astrangely put together movie, I guess is
what is what I'm getting at.It's there's no noticeable flares of directorial genius
in the film, but it's handledwell. Everybody's in front and nothing's weird.
I don't know. He didn't directthat many films though. I think

(38:06):
a lot of his writing credits getconfused for directing credits because he doesn't have
nearly as many directing credits that youknow, writing I mean, you know,
meet Malls before this and then justtons and tons of stuff. I
mean, it's one of those Yearone guys come on yeah and be dazzled.

(38:27):
The Brendan Frasier. I mean,this was his the first real film
directorial debut was Scatty Shack, becausebefore that he had only directed a TV
special and they would go on rightfrom this too, well, not right
from it was a few years toVacation and then fucking Club Paradise. Do
you guys remember that one with RobinWilliams and Peter O'Toole and Rick moranis cool?

(38:53):
It was bad? That was likethere was a lot of years where
it's just like, oh me awayfrom this Robie Williams guy, because his
movies are awful. Between that andwhat was the one he made with Walter
Mathow all of that movie? Doyou I mean? I saw very good

(39:13):
It's theater so I mean at thedrive end, yes, sur Rivers,
Yeah, it's Yeah, it's anotherone of those weirdly off tonal movies.
But I remember seeing a lot asa kid and always liking it. Again,
I had a thing for him becauseof Mork and Mindy, you know,
and I when I saw what ICould either in the theater on TV

(39:35):
went and saw Moscow on the Hudsonin the theater and was like, this
is not very funny. I didnot like that at all. No,
I of all the movies with RobiWilliams that I liked a lot when I
was a kid, and I haven'trevisited in years was the World According to
the Garb, I love that movie. That movie kind of traumatized me,
the whole thing, the guy gettinghis dick bit off. Oh yeah,

(39:57):
it's it holds up. I watchedit ended up on HBO Max a couple
of years back. I had beenlooking for it online for a long time
and always remembered liking it as akidnam like is this going to work?
Still? And it totally does onthe next episode of the Robin Williams podcast.
Well that was my That was myconcern with doing this movie because again,

(40:20):
like, it's not a Chevvy It'snot We're kind of going against our
own definition here of like a ChevyChase vehicle, because I would say that
this movie is a Chevy Chase vehicleinasmuch as he is part of this movie
and he and I think they almostlike made made him seem bigger than he
needed to be for the movie's sake. Top billing, face front and the

(40:42):
poster what do you you know?What do you want? Yeah? Well
what do you want? Exactly?He edges out probably two thirds of Danny's
story, So, I mean,he's the point where he's with Sarah Holcomb
like to the point where he ishaving the interactions with the other female character
that he would be having that TomNowonan's character or Danny Newton's character would be

(41:04):
having because that's that stuff's character.Tom God though, Michael O'Keefe and Tom
Noonan like like their hair styles,Like it trips me out because like they're
tall dudes with kind of this likebushy the little bit of the bushy hair,
but the everything it feels like theThai Web character is just the Danny

(41:28):
Newton character, just the side ofit that they're taking away from him and
giving to someone else. And it'slike, but why, because that's the
thing. Michael o'keep is really goodin this movie. He's actually really great,
like and we haven't even said that, like for as much as he's
just kind of sidelined like he's he'sreally charismatic and I like him a lot,
and I kind of always forget thathe's even part of this movie because

(41:49):
I think that's what the movie wants. But he's actually really he is very
good. His line deliveries always catchme off card I'm like, oh,
he's really doing He's really doing thework here that I don't know what the
begin name, when he's talking tohis dad and when he's trying to do
the blind fold shot and Chevy keepstalking and he's like, I don't know,
it'd be a lot easier if youweren't talking so much. I don't

(42:10):
know. Something about his delivery justworks. I mean, is he bitter
about this movie? It feels likehe should be. Yeah, yeah,
I had a lot more. He'scoming off of The Great Santini, you
know, where he plays a prettybig art of memory service. It's like
between him and Yeah, it's allyeah, well, but I mean he's

(42:32):
the main kid in that movie.He's the one who is really kind of
telling the Pat Conroy story through thiswell yeah, and suffering at the hands
of his father. Yeah, andthen he comes over here and he's sidelined
by all of these big names whowere you know, weren't really huge names,
but yeah that they were definitely comingoff of SNL. I mean,

(42:52):
I don't know where Dangerfield was inhis career. I definitely used to watch
a lot of him on Parson onYouTube. I'm not aging myself that much.
I didn't watch the original Tonight Show. Well what I also thought the
Jack Pard in a way better jobthan Johnny Carson, you know, and

(43:13):
really should have been Steve Allen show. This is Dangerfield's essentially his first like
big role in a movie. Imean, he was in The Projectionist in
seventy, but I mean a verysmall role in that he was just that
really dicky manager who's like put moreassault than the popcorn so we sell more
sodas. Yeah, I mean speakingof Chuck McCann, yes, but who

(43:37):
doesn't. Yeah, but Patty Shack. I mean that's you know, that
story I was telling at the topof this about Dangerfield not understanding why people
weren't laughing at his jokes because he'sjust used to the stand up you know,
stage, like I don't. Imean again that I wish that.
I almost wish that there had justbeen two different movies like two and Now

(43:57):
and in this day and age,like I think you could do this movie
the right way. I just thinkyou would have to have a bigger actor
cast as the Michael O'Keefe role sothat his role doesn't get sidelined because of
all the other you know. Imean, you could see someone coming along
and making a movie like Caddie Shackin twenty twenty three with you know,
some bigger name actors kind of atthe periphery, but you have some still

(44:22):
well known people as the ensemble cast. And that's what they did here,
But the balance would have been better, because again, you really can't wait
it in one direction just because Hey, these are all my friends and I've
worked with them on various other comedythings, so I trust that they're going
to do a better job than actuallytelling the narrative part of the story.

(44:43):
No, when I was watching thismovie, I was thinking of kind of
going along what you're talking about.As far as if this was remade today,
I think that Ryan Reynolds really capturesa lot of that self satisfied,
smirking assholeism of should be Chase willsay that I like Ryan Reynolds a lot
in a lot of movies, buthe can be us a. He's a

(45:06):
spice that goes a little heavy oncertain movies I just watched, and yes,
yes, but it feels like especiallythat whole like I'm riffing now,
that feels very Chevy Chase to me. Yeah, I can totally see that.
It's interesting though that the sequel Ithink goes in the direction of those

(45:27):
added on characters. I mean,it looks to me. I haven't seen
it yet, but it looks tome like it's the Rodney Dangerfield character movie
for the most part. Yeah,even though it's not him. He's not
Jackie Mason isn't playing that character,but he's playing that character. Wow.
Yeah. And apparently he's playing hischaracter from the Jerk in that movie.

(45:50):
Really yeah. Oh, gotta barelyremember him even being in the Chirk.
He's the gas station owner right theshooting the cab. So, yeah,
dad, he had a weird careerresurgence. Do you remember that. I
mean, I think it had somethingto do with him being cast in Caddy
shak Too. It was like,probably he kinda he got canceled because he

(46:10):
flipped the bird allegedly on that Imight have been on the Tonight Show and
he couldn't get work for a while. Then suddenly it's like, oh no,
there's this great comedian Jackie Mason,you know. Okay, I reserve
judgment for the second movie until wewatch it. But I do not remember
enjoying it. I've never seen it, so I'm very nor have I And

(46:32):
that's one of the ones I'm notlooking for. But I mean, you
literally never hear about the second movie, which I think probably speaks volumes about
the quality. And I think ourfriend and father Malone would defend it because
I know he is un ironically afan of Caddyshack too, But I was
thinking, you know that the stayingpower of this movie, I don't think

(46:57):
is any one thing. I becauseyou know again, and I mean,
if you think about something like BluesBrothers, which you guys already mentioned,
I mean, what you remember fromthat movie is acrid and Belushi's performances and
everything surrounding it. But this movie, I think is a little less specific
as to what any one person isgoing to take away from it, because
again, for me personally, likeI've already mentioned, Dangerfield and Ted Knight

(47:20):
are really just the pillars of themovie to the point where, and I
mean we've already kind of mentioned it, like a remake or just like more
of those two kinds of characters beingdickheads to each other would have been welcome.
And again I'm and you know youmentioned the snobs versus slobs thing like
this, this movie and so manyother movies in the in the eighties.
We're trying to do these these kindsof stories, and I don't know if

(47:45):
this is even the best one.It's just I think one of the better
known ones. It just tacked ontoa golf movie. Like you know,
ESPN claims that this is the greatestsports movie ever made. I disagree,
Like, it's a comedy, butit's not a sports movie like at at
all. I mean, I guess, I guess if you're using the most,

(48:07):
I guess, the widest of definitions. Yes, there is golf in
this movie, just like there's Christmasin Diehard. So you're right, I
guess it is a golf movie.Sure, it's just again like I feel
like it's more just like a reallyextended snl skit more than anything else.
Well, it's better than the Legendof Bagger Vance and way better than ten
Cup. Well, and that isI guess that's the other question. I

(48:29):
don't dislike Happy Gilmore, but Ialso understand that Adam Sandler is definitely not
everybody's cup of tea. I thinkthat for me is peak Adam Sandler,
those early movies that he did before. Again, he just kind of does,
like some of the actors in thismovie end up doing which is just
playing the same character over and overagain, and you know, because that's
I mean, you know, we'reprobably gonna get to that point with Chevy

(48:50):
Chase where we're just like, well, this guy is just doing the same
thing to the point where now you'rejust being asked to do the same thing
over and over again. I meanwe're at eighty right now, which his
shtick is still landing with people.By the time we get to Nothing but
Trouble, his stick is not justnot landing with people. It is far
from something anyone has any interest in. This is so much of this podcast

(49:13):
is going to be a brave newworld for me because I've not seen a
lot of these movies. The onesthat I have seen, like Modern Problems,
I saw a lot, but theother ones, I mean, I've
maybe seen Vacation once all the waythrough. I remember seeing European Vacation at
the drive in theater in not enjoyingit. So I yeah, I'm very

(49:36):
curious about how these movies are goingto be because I haven't seen what's the
one maybe Deal of the Century Isaw once. I think I saw Fletch
once, Spies like Us. Idon't know if I ever saw that.
So, yeah, this is goingto be very new ground for me.
Yeah, I'm gonna be It's goingto be back and forth for me because
as I go through the list,I've never seen, never seen the theater,

(50:00):
saw in the theater, saw inthe theater, never seen. It's
a weird mix. And I thinkI held on to my fandom of him
via SNL up until a certain pointand then it was like, I think
I'm done. I don't think Iliked this guy as much as I thought,
But I mean, I saw spieslike us in the theater. I

(50:21):
saw three amigos in the theater Isaw, and then there are some like
under the Rainbow that I've never seena minute of. So yeah, it's
going to be totally back and forthfor me. So before we mentioned the
next thing we're talking about that iskind of the last moment I wanted to
kind of get to. Is fromthe last time we saw Chevy Chase chronologically
an O Heavenly Dog to now thisis this is more in line with what

(50:45):
he was doing on SNL at thetime, and in something like an O
Heavenly Dog or a foul play,those those those bits were part of it,
but now that's the entire focus.And I think it's just interesting to
see how he's being used at thetime, because in foul Play, it
seems like they actually are asking chevyChase to act and play a character,

(51:08):
and in this movie, they're justlike, just like you said, Mike,
just riff, just do the thing. Just just start saying funny stuff,
funny man. And it's interesting tosee how they're utilizing chevy Chase this
early on in his career because Iactually resonate a lot more with what he
was doing in Foul Play than Iat all. I'm resonating with what he's
doing in this movie, because again, what he's doing in this movie is

(51:30):
fun and fine, but what he'sdoing in this movie is we're gonna see
that like the next twenty movie.He's like what he was doing in foul
Play is such a different expectation that, I mean, there is a universe
where that version of chevy Chase ismore successful and his roles are more Taylor
dim being a leading man and lessa leading goofy guy, because that's the

(51:53):
thing, Like, he's obviously verygood looking, but in this movie,
like he's so aloof it's hard toget it's hard to get a sense of
any any character because he's so intentionallyillud Notice his hat though in this movie
that he's really starting to lose ita little bit up top, if you
know what I mean, and keepingthat hat on when he takes his hat

(52:15):
off. At one point, Iwas like, oh, that forehead is
taking up a lot of space there, checking and speaking as a bald person.
I mean, I'm not making funof bald people, but it's just
interesting to trace the hairline as you'rewatching these movies. Yeah, he's one
of those I think that was goinggoing early because even on the first season
of SNL it's like not a combover, but it's the comb down.

(52:37):
Yeah, to create the illusion ofmore hair. If he pulled his hair
back, I think that would bea five or six heads. Oh yeah,
it's like, yeah, it's likemaybe that like the first quarter of
his head is just completely exposed.I mean, looking forward to the next
three, that's for sure RECs fourmovies. But the all I'm on board,

(52:59):
No, I'm and I'm with Andthat's kind of my point with my
question about Chevy Chase is like,again, he clearly has some range as
an actor. It's just weird tome that again, by the time we
get to the end of this podcast, we're gonna have felt like there is
no range, I'm assuming, butto go from something like foul Play to
O Heavenly Dog to then this,it's like they're really just taking Chevy Chase

(53:21):
and having him do very little nowthank you, very little, but very
little. Like because again, likehe could he could have been the lead
of this movie. He could havebeen the main character of this movie,
and that movie I think would haveworked just as well. It might have
worked even better if it had justbeen the Thai Web character throughout. And
I mean, obviously we're gonna seethat as we progress with Chevy Chase's career.

(53:43):
But yeah, it I think forme, Caddy Scheck is like end
reading the reviews about it, Likeevery every review says the same thing that
we have for the most part,if they're even kind of on the fence
about it, it's like this movieis just kind of chasing its tail around
in a circle. And yeah,I completely agree. Even as like I
said, as much as I lovethis movie, which I love this movie

(54:05):
a lot, I think I lovethis movie for the bits where those lines
come from, not necessarily the moviein its entirety, because there are parts
of this movie where I just checkout because I'm like, I don't really
even know if I care about someof these interactions with something. Yeah,
it's like the parts are more thanthe sum of the hole. Yeah.
And if you're a Bill Murray fan, you get something out of it.

(54:29):
If you're a Chevy Chase fan,you get something out of it. If
you're a Rodney Dangerfield fan. SoI think that's where the stain power is
is there's enough of that stuff forfans of those guys to keep it going.
If you're a Michael o'keith fan,you know, he does some solid
work. He just gets sidelined.Sidelined, Yeah, which is weird for

(54:50):
a movie where again, like itopens with him, and it edged with
him, and yet he's not thereenough throughout to feel like he's just the
book end of the Oh and wegot to see him win the tournament,
okay, and then he gets tiethe tournament. Actually yeah, yeah,
and I would not have taken that. There's definitely interference there. Yeah.

(55:13):
Well, and there's a time there'sa time limit to on waiting for a
ball to drop in the hole.I've watched numerous golf tournaments in my life
and seeing situations like that, andyou have a certain amount of time before
you have to just hit it in. So Mark no cinema sin number one

(55:36):
everything with Gaddy Shack in fifteen minutes? Whoa did you know that there's not
actually a saliva line that was madeup in the movie? Yeah? What
was That's bizarre? That was bizarre. That's the first time I've ever heard
that line. What is she saying? And then she licks his hand,
so yeah, no thanks, nothanks, Lacy Underall. Yeah, I

(55:59):
don't know where that tongue's been.I've been shot a penicillin right after that.
The last thing I want to mentionbefore we close, is we because
we haven't mentioned him? Shockingly,is John F. Barman Junior as Spalding
double farts smales, Oh my god, the real hero of the film arts

(56:21):
double turns. Yeah, he isthe hero of the like he he makes
such an impression and Ted Knight justragging on him constantly is so fucking hilarious.
And I mean just that thing.I'll have a cheeseburger. No,

(56:42):
it's like anything exactly like Ted Knight. I don't know, like fucking great.
Yeah, I mean I think that'sthe big takeaway is like, yeah,
it's a Chevvy Chase movie, butTed Knight and rounding Dangerfield, that's
really that's really why you would showup for this movie in twenty twenty three,
I I personally so. On thenext episode of the Chasing Chevy podcast,
we're going to be taking a lookat the next film chronologically in Chevy

(57:05):
Chase's filmography, which seems like oldTimes, which has nothing to do with
golf but everything to do with love, yeah or something like that. And
dogs a lot of dogs. Arethere actually dogs? Oh? Tons of
dogs? Yes? Oh I thoughtyou were kidding one thing. Oh there
are tons of dogs. Yes,oh fun okay, so yes, Chevy

(57:29):
Chasing Goldie On and Charles Groton.So I'm I'm very much looking forward to
that. And until then, wherecan people find you and the things that
you work on, Mark Begley,You can find me at Weirdingwaymedia dot com
with my shows Wake Up Heavy andCambridge and with Sean and wacap heavy dot
com where all that stuff is listed, and on social media at Wake Up

(57:52):
Heavy by you how much? Goahead? Begley, you you lead?
You lead? How about you?Mike White? I think this similar.
I'm not on social media wake UpHeavy, but all the stuff that I
do is available over at Weirdingwaymedia dotcom, including the Projection Booth, which
is a weekly movie show where Ihave covered a haul free amount of Chevy

(58:12):
Chase films, in fact, Ithink all of zero. So if I
could have gotten Carrie Fisher and Chevyto reunite to talk about under the Rainbow,
I would have, But that justthat will never happen now, So
there's a loss. And how aboutyou, Chris. As for me,
you can find me at weirding WayMedia as well, where we have covered
several Chevy Chase movies, including Fletchand Fletch libs and Confess Fletch, which

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technically is in a Chevy Chase movie, but you know character that Chevy Chase
played at Fletch. Yeah, sowe have covered some Chevy Chase movies if
you're interested. If not, youcan still go to Weirdingway Media and find
all the other things that I workon that are nothing to do with Chevy
Chase, which are more than thethings that are for talking about Chevy Chase
movies. You can go listen toour foul play episode on my show,

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which was I guess the impetus forthis, Yeah toldly was you are the
reason. How's that feel great?Send the hate mail to wordiwaymedia dot com
right, Send it right to me. I'll get it. Why are you
talking about movies you don't even like? Yeah, right, you don't even
like it. I'd like Chase,I like Caddie Shack a lot, but

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not as much as the Blues Brothers. Once we start getting out there,
the iTunes reviews will tell us howwrong we are