April 5, 2025 • 47 mins
In the dead of winter, 1900, the remote Flannan Isles Lighthouse stood tall against the unforgiving waves of the North Atlantic. But when a passing ship noticed its beacon had gone dark, a grim discovery awaited the relief crew. The lighthouse keepers — three men stationed on the desolate isle — had vanished without a trace. Inside, the table was set for a meal never eaten, a single chair lay overturned, and the clock on the wall had stopped.
As investigators searched for answers, bizarre clues emerged: cryptic log entries describing violent storms that never appeared on weather reports, and unsettling accounts of dread and fear. Theories swirled — from deadly waves and tragic accidents to supernatural forces and sinister foul play. Yet more than a century later, the Flannan Isles mystery remains unsolved.
In this spine-chilling episode of Chillworthy, we retrace the steps of those ill-fated keepers, explore the darkest speculations, and uncover the enduring legends that still haunt the lighthouse. Was it nature’s wrath, a descent into madness, or something even more terrifying? Turn up the volume and keep a light on — this is one maritime tale that may never rest.
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As investigators searched for answers, bizarre clues emerged: cryptic log entries describing violent storms that never appeared on weather reports, and unsettling accounts of dread and fear. Theories swirled — from deadly waves and tragic accidents to supernatural forces and sinister foul play. Yet more than a century later, the Flannan Isles mystery remains unsolved.
In this spine-chilling episode of Chillworthy, we retrace the steps of those ill-fated keepers, explore the darkest speculations, and uncover the enduring legends that still haunt the lighthouse. Was it nature’s wrath, a descent into madness, or something even more terrifying? Turn up the volume and keep a light on — this is one maritime tale that may never rest.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to Chilworthy.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
A podcast we're two best friends discuss mysteries, murders, and
anything in between for your enjoyment.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So if you're ready to hear some chilling and unsettling cases,
you're in the right place, happy listening. Hello, Hello, everyone,
Welcome back to another episode of Chillworthy with your host
Brent and Talia. Hi, everybody, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm well? How are you well?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The same? Here?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Are you happy today?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Happy?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Ish?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's a Golden Girls quote if anyone cares.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So we are doing back to back episodes. So Talia
doesn't have any books to talk about, unfortunately, bye, but
I do have fish facts to say, so everyone can
rest easy because we've got we do have some things
to talk about. So today, the same day, I am
(01:13):
going to now talk about another resident of my twenty
nine gallon tank.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You should name the tank that just dawned on me
when you said resident of You should name each tank.
So there are locations like they have titles, you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Know, maybe what, yeah, like Atlantica.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Absolutely, shall this be Atlantica?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Fine?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
All right, all right Atlantica?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Okay, So this resident is my flying fox algae eater,
the one that from the last episode Tally I was
watching with the little Danio's and he was playing around
with them.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's quite a mouthful of a name. Say that three
times fast, you.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Know, so number one and again. If anybody's interested, they
just have to look up flying fox algae eater number one.
They are often confused with another fish. This is Talia's spiritfish.
They're often confused.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's really what I thought, you met? I thought all
the poor soul, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
They are often confused with another fish called the Siamese
algae eater. So this flying the flying fox looks very
similar to this other algae eater, but apparently you can
tell them apart by their solid black stripe. So I
guess Siamese algae eaters have a stripe, but it's kind
(02:44):
of jagged and it gets faded as it goes on.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
This one's boldo all the way through. He's over by
the rocks.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, that would mean he's a flying.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Fox, right, I figured it out.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Second, although they are algae eaters, they are not just
algae eaters. They are omnivores. So even though they have
a reputation for eating algae, they do not rely solely
on doing this. They also eat whatever the hell they want, biofilms, right,
plant matter, insect larvae, small crustaceans, which could be a
(03:16):
problem for my other residence.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But no, that's the shrimp.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yes, I was keeping that a secret, but forget that. So, yeah,
I also have shrimp. Maybe we'll talk about them next time.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I will not say what my favorites are.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I did not give that all d Third, they can
be slightly territorial and aggressive. Oh so when they start
they start off as juveniles they are pretty chill, but
once they get older they become territorial, but mainly from
their own species. Like they want to like stake out
a piece of the tank or a piece of their environment,
(03:57):
that is for them against the flying foxes.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Fascinating. Yeah, are you not going to get more than him?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I doubt it. Yeah, because of that, Not necessarily because
of that, But I would like some other types of
algaeaters as well. Well.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
What are some others?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well, you'll learn about that later, I guess. Fourth fact,
they enjoy very fast moving water, which you know, I
don't have a very fast moving water here. But I
have noticed that he does like to hang out on
one of the plant leafs that are kind of close
to the surface, right in front of where the filter
dumps in, and he has no problem staying in that current,
(04:35):
like he just hangs out there.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So fiddles about. Good for him. A strong swimmers.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, speaking of strong, the last fact is that they
are strong jumpers.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
They have very powerful bodies and can jump out of
the tank if startled or stressed, so you should keep
that in mind. Please.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I am mostly staying back from gluing my face to
the side of the glass. I mean, I am literally
getting a little pain in my neck from staring like this.
It is like hypnotizing.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Of course it is. Oh my god, it lowers blood pressure,
does it? I think it does.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So anyway, a secure lid is recommended for anybody thinking
about keeping a flying fox in their tank. So thank
you all for listening to today's fish facts.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Excellent, Ye, thank you surely.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Now, So speaking of fish facts, I guess I just
am in the mood to do something water related, which
is very unusual for me when it comes to my phobias, right,
but I decided to go a little, uh you know,
a little off what we've been doing lately, which is
all the true crime stuff, and go into like a
(05:52):
little bit more of a mystery that's not necessarily sea related,
but see adjacent related.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So good for you going outside of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Well, thank you, surely. So. I I'd never heard about
this before. I I researched it, so I you know,
I don't know how this is going to go, but
we'll give it a shot.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So this is the mystery of the Flannan Isles lighthouse ghosts,
and it's f l A N n A N Flannan Flannon.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know, Okay, Ireland, Scotland. Okay, so oh I
got us today freaking Saint Patrick's Day. No, I think
that's tomorrow. Shit, I thought I missed it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You didn't, all right, all right, So a little bit
of background, and I'm gonna say I don't even know
how to pronounce these things. Eileen Moore Moore, I guess,
(07:01):
I don't know. It's the largest of the Flannin Isles.
These are also known as quote unquote Seven Hunters. So
they're small, uninhabited islands about twenty miles west of the
Isle of Lewis, which I guess is like a main
island of Scotland. So this lighthouse was built between eighteen
(07:25):
ninety five and eighteen ninety nine shitz Very. It stands
seventy five feet tall and that is on the top
of one of a one hundred and fifty foot cliff Geeza.
So and as most people know, you know, lighthouses are
(07:45):
the things that guide ships through dangerous waters. So the
first time that it was lit was on the seventh
of December eighteen ninety nine, and it was operated by
the Northern Lighthouse Board. Station was typically manned by three
I guess lighthouse keepers at a time, and then a
(08:08):
fourth one would rotate on and off for like.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
On shore leave ah.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You got me, So there's always going to be three
people there, okay, and then the fourth one would show up,
and then the first one would go away icy then
the first one would come back and the second.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
One would leave all right, get it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So they could go get their you know, go get
the next I was gonna say, go get their feet
on solid ground, but sure, or go get their tasty cakes.
So this island did hold a sort of spooky reputation.
Local shepherds would take that like they would take their
(08:49):
sheep there but they would never stay overnight. Why because
they believed it was haunted by spirits.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Ell yeah, so you know, so.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Whatever, it was like a spooky island with a mysterious
I guess not mysterious, but a majestic lighthouse. One would say,
I think I would absolutely like for a month. I
would love to be a lighthouse keeper. I mean not
by myself. I'm not saying just me in the lighthouse,
but like with like a friend or something. Hell yeah,
(09:20):
I mean beautiful views.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
All you have to do is make sure the lighthouse
stays on. I mean you're not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Not much responsibility.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Less responsibility than those than those petrol controllers, okay, less
responsibility also than those people who sit up in those
high towers in the forest to watch for wildfires the
call because you know that also could semi be relaxing.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But like, eh, not so much.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So I think it would be very nice.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well maybe in another life you can do that.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
They have airbnbs like that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I don't think i'd want to stay in one. I
don't think they would be particularly cozy. I'd like to
stay in a little cottage. Do you stay in them?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think some of them you literally stay in them,
and some of them have a little like Pete's dragon.
I want to say, had a house next to God.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I loved that movie. Did we talk about that before?
I think we did. Oh shit, I thought we did.
That's from my dragon fixation slash dinosaur obsession first began.
I loved that movie. I was obsessed with him. I
wanted an Elliott. I'm sure I pretended I had one.
I'm sure. Oh my god, I loved that movie.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I'll be your Candle on the Water. Very sad when
she lost her husband, but then he came back. Spoilers,
I wonder.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I guess Disney Plus would have that, right, Oh, I'm.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Sure they do. I mean those people who he escaped
from they were scary sons of bitches.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That mother scared me so much, and like.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
They were dirty. He had like like coal on their face,
like soot.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
They did.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And there was no reason for them to be sooty.
You know, they were in the forest. They weren't a
Chimney sweep.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
No, not like bird Right, got another good movie one
of my saves.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, no, you're right, the opposite. He gave me the opposite.
Feeling very safe.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Dawn nice down to earth. Yes, yeah, you're right man.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So anyway, right, all right, so back to this lighthouse
the timeline of events. So it is December fifteenth, nineteen hundred.
There is a ship passed by. It's a steamership, and
(12:04):
it's passing by the island and they notice that the
lighthouse lamp was not lit. Oh shit, during a stormy night.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Someone's sleeping on the jub.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, all three of them must have been.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, I forgot. They's supposed to be more than one.
You explained it to me, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But you're falling asleep. That's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
My god, I am not falling.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Your story's done. You check out.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That's not true. I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
We're gonna collect ourselves again. She's looking at me like
through half glazed over eyes.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm relaxed. I'm watching the wind.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Anyway, they noticed that it was not lit, and this
is obviously a huge no. No, that's the entire reason
you're there is to make sure that these things stay lit.
Because I read that even on very calm nights, those
rocks and stuff, they can they can still be completely
I don't want to say camouflage, but just disappear into
(13:09):
the water, the landscape, whatever, so that it doesn't have
to be this crazy you know storm like aerial saves
Eric and it can just be a calm night on
the water. And sometimes calm nights are worse because then
there's no waves hitting the rocks to make any foam good.
So anyway, it was obviously, like I said, highly unusual
(13:33):
that these things were not lit and the light should
have been operational, but it wasn't. So this this ship
reported that it wasn't lit when they passed it on
December fifteenth. Now we get to December eighteenth, so this
ship arrives in Port, same ship, Yes, in Leith l eih.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Sure I know a leath once. That's how I know
how to I see.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And so when they get to Port, they relay this
thing that they noted about the fact that this lighthouse
was not functioning or was not turned on or whatever
you want to say. They reported it to the Northern
Lighthouse Board, who, like I told you, if you were awake,
was rent she was awake. At this point was when
(14:28):
they you know, those are the people that oversaw this lighthouse.
So however, this warning was not promptly passed along, which
doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I feel like we hear that so much. Where the
hell or the bells dingling ling?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
It was not promptly passed along, so no immediate action
was taken, even though that's so unsafe.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh, it's the whole, like you said, purpose like of
all things to take seriously, I would sure as hell
imagine it's that. It was how many days later too,
like someone three exactly, so someonecisely to go and check
things out.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, now we're at December twentieth, and this lighthouse board
they had a boat obviously, the boat's name was.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Hesperus sounds nice esperus.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And it was scheduled to sail from the mainland to
relieve the lighthouse crew because, like I said, they were
on rotation. But unfortunately, bad weather delayed the trip. So
rough seas in this region made it impossible for this
vessel to sail as planned on the twentieth. So now
(15:47):
we're going to jump ahead again. Now, the December fifteenth
was when the lighthouse was out. Now we're at December
twenty sixth.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No one cares though.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So the Hesperus finally now gets to the island where
the lighthouse is and Captain James Harvey spelled hr v
i E. He is the you know, the captain of
the Hesperus, and he sounds the ship's horn and he
(16:19):
fires a flare to alert the light keepers that they
are there. You know, they're pulling up hello, and they're
they're not getting any response from the lighthouse.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Just to go back to all of this, Yeah, and
when you think of the time frame, like not timeframe, sorry,
the era and nineteen hundred, you know, there's no way
to communicate quickly.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So and like you said, this is the sole purpose
of the lighthouse. To allow this much time to go by,
to not even begin the journey to get to it
to check things out, I think is so wildly responsible.
You know, there's no phones, there's no way to quickly snapchat, right,
And I just what other way can these people in
(17:10):
the lighthouse convey there's an emergency besides shutting the hell
besides shutting the light the hell off. That's it. That's
the only way that they can effectively commute.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Be sure about that though, aside.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
From the men switching on and off.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
They don't have like teleplayers.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, but I thought, like.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Lighthouse in trouble stop need help stop like, didn't they
do that in five Goes West? You know the hell
knows when that when that time period. You're right, we're
very uninformed.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That just made me think of sex in the City
when everything was happening with Charlotte and.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh yes Charlotte. Yeah, mother, stop seriously stop.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Harry's the funny reading it. Yeah, Bunny was a trickster.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Any way, Like I said, they get there, they get
no response, even though they tooted their horn and they
shot up a few flares. You would think, though, I mean,
if these people are just purely in the lighthouse, they
would see this without needing to hear or see a flare.
They would just see them pulling up. I mean, if
(18:24):
they were doing their job correct, right right, yes, So anyway,
no response.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Things aren't looking good. Riddle me this of the rotation
that would take place, the one that most recently left,
do we know when that was or what he reported?
Obviously he reported things were fine. But do we know
when he.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
We don't know. No, but he does enter the story. Now.
His name was Joseph Moore.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh so did he come back on this bar instead?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Because it was his time up in the rotation, he
was headed back, and then somebody else was going to leave,
so he was put ashore alone to investigate. That's nice,
yikes a break. So how many steps do you think
it was to get up to the lighthouse.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
One and seven?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, I mean specific, No, one hundred and sixty. So
he climbed all one hundred and sixty steps to that lighthouse,
and he found the lighthouse silent and empty, empty empty.
The entrance gate and the main door were closed, and
inside he discovered a few unsettling signs. So the kitchen
(19:44):
was tidy, which is the exact opposite of my kitchen.
He would have been right at home in my kitchen.
He would have thought things are fine here. But there
were two sets of oil skin rain gear, I guess,
which was like you know what galoshes back in the day, right, Yeah,
(20:06):
they were missing. And because they were missing this this
meant that two men had gone out at some point
in this storm gear.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And they didn't return. List today, I'm allowed to yawn, man.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
She yawned so long, closes her eyes, takes her glasses off,
has no clue on watching and staring at her as
she's doing this. Then she puts her glasses back on
and then says, and they didn't come back. No, this
episode's going to be it's so off the rails. But whatever,
(20:47):
every few months, I guess we have to be completely insane.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Absolutely, they look for it. I love how I always
think to talk into it when it's not necessary. Not recorded.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
We are recorded. We are I've never stopped.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
All right, anyway, back back on track here, So okay,
all right, so he sees the kitchen is a mess.
Now he sees two coats were missing. Okay, so somebody
must have obviously gone out. Well, two people must have
obviously gone out. The beds were unmade, and the fireplace
had been unused for a few days.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know what, I suspect maybe to tell there was
a storm, two went out in it, and then the
third stayed behind. And then the reason that there aren't
like three pairs of ring you're missing is because the
third then went out after the storm, because the two
never came back and now they met their demise.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, well, wouldn't that mean all three pairs would be missing?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
No, because if the third went out when the storm passed,
they wouldn't have needed their oil.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Okay, rain gear cracked the case. So the clock on
the kitchen wall had stopped, and there was a single
set of oil skin remaining hanging, which indicated that one
of the lighthouse keepers, who apparently likely was Donald MacArthur.
(22:26):
How do they know who stayed behind? I think I
think it's because they keep logs. Oh shit, sort of
like in Star Trek.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Oh my god, I loved Star Trek.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So this is Captain Catherine Janeway the USS starship Enterprise.
That's not actually true. She was the captain of the Voice. God,
that was anyway, that was your favorite.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I liked the next generation.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
There was mine and he was the Enterprise man. Correct,
we'll pick you.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Up, John Paul, John Paul Card.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Oh yes, anyway, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh Jean luc Jean Luke Picade, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
All right. So anyway, they did see that this one
coat was there, and they thought it likely belonged to
Donald MacArthur. And they think that this indicated that he
had actually left the lighthouse in a hurry without his coat.
So not what you thought, which was he waited for
a sunny day to go explore.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Good call. Also, though, what I think I was going
to say, the reason the two were in the log
book and he wasn't is because he left in a hurry.
So I see is that that follows that?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
So Joseph Moore decides he's going to rush back and
report that the lighthouse was deserted. So somebody is rushing finally, finally, yes.
So Captain Harvey then sent Monroe plus three volunteer seamen
back to the island to continue the search and basically
maintain the lighthouse. So I guess he was like basically
replacing the team.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
We've got to go back on the four people, right, well.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Three new people plus Joseph. So now we're still on
December twenty sixth, but now it's the afternoon. So a
thorough search to the lighthouse and the island was conducted
by Joseph and the other three people who volunteered, but
they found no trace of the keepers. Now, the three
keepers who were supposed to be there was James Duquat
(24:32):
He was the principal keeper, Thomas Marshall was the assistant
to the regional manager, and Donald MacArthur was the occasional keeper.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
That was the title.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That's what it says.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah wow.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So now, however, they did observe signs that there was
recent violent weather.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I thought you were gonna say violence, Well, hence hence
ere go.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So at the western landing platform, which was about one
hundred feet above sea level, there was a supply box
that had been smashed open and its contents were strewn
all about.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Was anything missing? Could they tell?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
So? I don't know if things were missing, But the
iron railings on the port, not the port on the
platform were bent and.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Twisted from the storm.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Apparently part of a railway track for the tramway I guess,
which was maybe what they used to take supplies back
and forth, was torn up from the concrete and a
large rock weighing about a ton had become dislodged. So
obviously something was going on there.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, a scuffle, just a slight scuffle.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well I think it was a storm.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
All you think a scuffle they were fighting and they
just happened to move a ton. Well, I don't stone.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
How what kind of storms are they having out there
in nineteen hundred What.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Kind of people do you think are moving stones, having fights,
ripping up railways? Goliath, So some of the ground had
been ripped away from the cliff top two hundred feet
above sea level, and a life buoy that had been
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secured near the landing was missing, and its ropes were
all shredded, as if torn away by force teeth cloths.
So these clues pointed not to a monster, but to
an extreme storm or wave event, which tsunamis. That's terrible.
That's terrifying to me.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Scotland doesn't get I'm just saying hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'm just saying no, no mega canes.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I'll see you in twenty seventy and we're going to
be getting them, I assure you.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
So that evening, Captain Harvey sent a telegram from his
ship see a telegram. I knew they existed, right back
to this Northern Lighthouse board, and he said, quote, a
dreadful accident has happened at the Flannands, which is the island.
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The clocks were stopped, and other signs indicated that the
accident must have happened about a week ago. Oh poor fellows,
they must have been blown over the cliffs or drowned
trying to secure a crane end quote. So he seems
to have it all figured out. The relief keepers stayed
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on the island to keep the lighthouse in operation. While
Captain Harvey returned to the port to await further instructions
on what to do. So now December twenty ninth, So
I guess the Northern Lighthouse boards Superintendent Robert Moorehead, which
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reminds me of Agnes Moorehead. Who's that That was Samantha
Stephens mother on Bewitched.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I did not know that was her last day.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, Robert Morehead arrives on the island to conduct unofficial
investigation into these disappearances. So Morehead has personally recruited. He
had personally recruited all three of the missing men, and
he knew them very well. So he examined the evidence
and the remaining clothing. Notably, one set of the outdoor
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gear was again left behind, consistent with Joseph Moore's observation
what he told them when he ran back down the
only man with a sense of urgency. Moore had determined
that Marshall and Duquet likely ventured out onto the west
landing during this storm. That must have happened, while MacArthur,
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the one who left without his coat, probably rushed out
after them when they did not return. Moore had noted
that leaving the lighthouse unattended, violated the rules, which indicated
that the men must have felt like there was an
urgent need to go out there together. After surveying the
storm damage at the West landing, he concluded that quote
(29:39):
unquote an extra large sea, which is basically what they
mean when they say that, to mean a giant wave
struck the island on December fifteenth. I was making a
point to say that because I had mentioned a tsunami
and you had said that's impossible, they don't have them.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I maintain that a large wave does not mean you're right.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'm not saying that Scotland can't have rough seas or
large waves or horrific storms.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
You're not saying that. Don't get me wrong. Well I've
got you wrong anyway. He did say a giant wave
he thinks hit the island on December fifteenth, and he
basically thought that it swept all three men into the sea.
That's freaking nuts.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh, it's terrifying. And didn't you say this lighthouse was
on the cliff. That's what he's saying that he thinks they.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
One hundred and fifty feet up.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Insane. How was that safe?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
It's obviously not but imagine how high that wave was.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, yes, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
But if it was a tiny wave compared to what
Talia has her knowledge of Tsunamis says otherwise, I.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Have done extensive research and watched video footage of Tsunamis. Wow,
and I regret it every time because I have a
nightmare or something, but it is most fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Well. Fine, So obviously, you know, his report, like it
brought some closure on the administrative level of like what
do we think happened here? Put something down, you know whatever, whatever,
But the fact that there's no witnesses and no bodies
that was, you know, still unnerving for a bunch of
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people when more heads official investigation had happened. Like I said,
it was thorough, but ultimately it could only infer what happened.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, I remember what I was gonna say. What is
it that we don't know that a wave did this?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, you're right, it could have been scuffle. So he
did carefully inspect the scene the lighthouse. Everything was in order.
The lamp had been cleaned and refilled. Uh, and there
were the preparations for the next lighting. They were done
and like ready to go. So that indicated that the
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men had completed their mourning duties on the morning of
December fifteenth. So then down at the west landing, like
I said, he found what he thought to be dramatic
evidence of storm damage. And from these observations he had
deduced that during the afternoon of the fifteenth, all these
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men went out to secure all of their equipment during
this storm, and it was such a crazy storm that
apparently a what he thinks is a large wave must
have come out of the sea and washed all three
men out into sea.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Poor fellows.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Right now, the families of these keepers and the general public,
they did not fully sort of just accept this because
they still thought, like, you know, it was a mystery,
and I know that people love a good mystery, they
sure do, right, So the fact that there were no
bodies and no witnesses left room for the imagination, and
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so newspapers started printing stories that were speculating wildly about
what could have happened. So, you know, like I said,
obviously there were a bunch of just wild stories and
things that could you know, that people were saying could
have happened. Obviously, a lot of like folklore and sea
(33:27):
monsters mermaids, maybe a nice siren or two something like that.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Whats the siren?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Kind of like a mermaid, but they sing say lists
to their death. Wow, how do you not know this?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I believe you, But how don't you?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't know. I don't know anything about folklore. M yeah,
it never really enthralled me.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Right, Yeah. So over the decades, this mystery has been
revisited by historians and researchers, and there has been some
new light that has been shed on the incident, and
this new light has helped to debunk some of the myths.
One significant contribution was made by author Mike Dash, who
examined the case for a newspaper. And Dash investigated the
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alleged lighthouse log book entries for the twelfth through the
fifteenth of December of that year that everybody disappeared, and
these entries described that severe storms were happening. It also
described that there were some unusual behaviors being exhibited by
the keepers, such as one man had been reportedly crying
(34:40):
in fear and all three were set at some point
to have been praying, and the final log entry stated
this is a a quote here storm ended see calm
God is over all end.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Quote well, to me, that sounds like a well that ends.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well well, and I think everyone can agree you're wrong.
And three men because they were never seen again.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
In terms of I don't think it was then a
storm that did this because they were then Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, listen to this modern analysis. Gosh revealed these log
entries were complete fabrication.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Get the hell out of here.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And they got added to the story long after nineteen.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Hundred, so they didn't even exist.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That's what complete fabrications mean. Well, not the men, the logs. Yeah,
and I don't know how I don't know how literal
now you're taking this. There is no lighthouse at all, No,
there is, so in reality, the uh the lighthouse log
had normal entries up until the thirteenth of December, but
(35:57):
there was nothing range in the log entries, so nothing scandalous.
Nobody crying, nobody praying. I was going to say, talking
to the mermaids.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
No harm in praying. I mean, I don't know why
that was standing out that the men can't pray unless
there's some weird shit going on.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
They were saying they were because they were all scared
of something. They were praying fear inference.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
But you don't have to pray because you're fearful, is
all I'm saying. You can be praying and be hippy
and not scared.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I don't think this is ever going to make it go.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Well, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
To be an episode I don't agree with. So later
researchers they focused on the geography and the science of
this island and they thought that it supported the rogue
wave theory. So the island's west landing sits on a
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steep sided now arrow gorge ending in a sea cave,
which how lovely. The sea cave a little spooky, I guess,
but it sounds magical to me.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So storm waves funneled into this cut and they could
explode upward, explode great force. Well check check, check, how
about it? So one analysis pointed out that the assistant keeper,
Thomas Marshall, had previously been fined five shillings for five
(37:33):
shillings for an incident where the equipment was lost in
a storm, and this detail, uncovered by a researcher named
James Love, suggested that Marshall would have been especially eager
to secure those outdoor like all the outdoor gear during
bad weather to avoid another fine, and the fact that
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he had this motivation adds way to the theory that
Marshal and the principal keeper do Cat went out despite
the storm, leading to this accident. Modern commentators agree that
the most likely explanation remains that a combination of bad
weather and the keeper's sense of duty resulted in their deaths,
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which is a tragic but completely normal scenario. So, of course,
because the men were never found, it will always though,
remain a mystery, so a couple of fun little stories,
or not stories, but fun little interpretations of what could
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have happened. So some of the speculations that are more
colorful were Some speculated that it was a giant sea
serpent sounds nice, or a monstrous seabird ooh, had come
and snatched the man off the island, which I guess
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was an idea that was more suited to the Middle
Ages because they used to like their monsters back then.
See monsters and such, there be monsters out there, or
whatever they used to say. Others wondered if the keepers
had maybe been abducted by a ghost ship. Perhaps it
was the cursed phantom of the Seven Hunters, for which
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the islands were nicknamed Ah. This ghost ship theory imagined
that a spectral crew spirited the lighthouse men away, and
they were even suggestions of foreign spies or pirates that
landed on the rock and kidnapped the keepers. Now why
the hell would they do that?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't know, man, I mean, I mean, I didn't
expect you to. But I think it's fascinating when you
think of all of the interpretations and like how we've
talked about this before, obviously, but like how these myths
are born and just kind of who thinks this stuff
up and like gets these theories out there and going.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
And slender Man right right right, So obviously you know
those are some whimsical theories, but sadly we're never gonna know.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
No, Well, may the men rest in peace. I don't
suspect they're well, obviously they're not still with us, but
even back in January of nineteen oh one, I don't
think they were with us.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I agree, Yeah, so very unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Can you imagine the survivor's guilt of the man I
can't think of his name that was not there, the
fourth man who came.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Back, Joseph Moore, I don't even know, I don't think
I would have that.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
What I mean, I freaking would I.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Don't think he didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Of course not, That's not what Survivor's guilt is. I'm
not suspected suggesting right.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Well, What I mean though, is like I remember, back
from our literal first episode ever, when we talked about
that man Survivor's skilt. I don't even remember who the
name of the man was. Well, oh pasta, yes, the
guy who like hurt his back and then he had
to go back to the town or whatever I can
see there, because that was that was out of the ordinary,
(41:23):
like he was planning ongoing and something happened and he
didn't go. This man was just purely taking his turn,
just regardless them get to do right, So it was
a normal thing.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Okay, well in that case, but I respect that you
would have it. Oh my, that would haunt me forever forever.
I wouldn't be right again, How.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Would we even tell the difference?
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Why?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
All right, I hope this is not anybody's first time
listening to this.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Way more jovial. That's all not about this disappearance, No,
certainly not disappearances, I should say.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
But I mean I still think it would be a
beautiful place to visit, to be completely totally.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
God rest these three souls.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Absolutely, and you know from from what I saw, I mean,
nothing ever happened to any of the people who took
over for them, so we were safe and sound, right,
But I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Awful.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I would say, you know, you gotta be freaking careful
when you're doing that. Absolutely, But anyway, well, good job.
It wasn't my best work, but it was just something
off the beaten path of like, here's something, you know,
fascinating that happened.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Even how many years centuries ago? Yes, I think was
lovely that you did. One from a different area, from
a different area.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Well, it's also a different area. We're not in Scotland,
so a different area and era. Right, So have you
ever been to an actual lighthouse.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
In like New Jersey and looks fine and Maine?
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, I was just I don't think I have. Yes,
I have, I don't think. So have you actually been
up like where you can look look out of it?
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yes? And if I'm not missing to say that.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Very solemnly, yeah, they're just not my favorite, which is
mind blowing because it represents everything you like and the
only distinction is I brought it up.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh my gosh. False. I want to say also Rhode Island,
but I might be making that up. Or maybe Connecticut,
I want to say, want to like, for instance, while
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we're talking about it, that new book I said, I
started today, Wild Dark Coast and this father and his
kids they live on this you know, uninhabited now island,
and there's a lighthouse. And she one of the daughter's
comments like the family lives in the whitehouse. She does
(44:30):
not and hasn't. And I thought to myself, well, that
sounds lovely, Like I don't even know where the hell
she lives. I think she lives among the seals or something,
it said, but also sounds nice. She pretty much is
always in the water. She swims with them. They're very
playful and adorable. I would not want to be in
that lighthouse, but.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I think I think they're too narrow.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I think that's what it's about.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I know there' a lot of steps, and that would suck. Yeah,
gorge myself, and then I have to get to my bed.
Who needs the hassle of that?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Well, you could just flop on the bottom.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, yeah, Well, if anybody's still there, thank you for
sticking around.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
This was nice.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
It's been an exercise and what would it be an exercise? Yes,
an exercise and patience. So we thank you all for
your patience.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yes, always with us every time.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Hopefully at least you chuckled or something. Who knows. I'm
done now, So all right, everybody listen as always, stay
safe and stay chill. Fine, goodbye everybody, you've just listened
to Chilworthy. Thank you for joining us on this latest step.
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real lives and events that are at the heart of
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Speaker 2 (46:10):
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
So if you're ready to hear some chilling and unsettling cases,
you're in the right place, happy listening. Hello, Hello, everyone,
Welcome back to another episode of Chillworthy with your host
Brent and Talia. Hi, everybody, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm well? How are you well?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The same? Here?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Are you happy today?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Happy?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Ish?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's a Golden Girls quote if anyone cares.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
So we are doing back to back episodes. So Talia
doesn't have any books to talk about, unfortunately, bye, but
I do have fish facts to say, so everyone can
rest easy because we've got we do have some things
to talk about. So today, the same day, I am
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going to now talk about another resident of my twenty
nine gallon tank.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You should name the tank that just dawned on me
when you said resident of You should name each tank.
So there are locations like they have titles, you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Know, maybe what, yeah, like Atlantica.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Absolutely, shall this be Atlantica?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Fine?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
All right, all right Atlantica?
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Okay, So this resident is my flying fox algae eater,
the one that from the last episode Tally I was
watching with the little Danio's and he was playing around
with them.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's quite a mouthful of a name. Say that three
times fast, you.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Know, so number one and again. If anybody's interested, they
just have to look up flying fox algae eater number one.
They are often confused with another fish. This is Talia's spiritfish.
They're often confused.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That's really what I thought, you met? I thought all
the poor soul, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
They are often confused with another fish called the Siamese
algae eater. So this flying the flying fox looks very
similar to this other algae eater, but apparently you can
tell them apart by their solid black stripe. So I
guess Siamese algae eaters have a stripe, but it's kind
(02:44):
of jagged and it gets faded as it goes on.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
This one's boldo all the way through. He's over by
the rocks.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, that would mean he's a flying.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Fox, right, I figured it out.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Second, although they are algae eaters, they are not just
algae eaters. They are omnivores. So even though they have
a reputation for eating algae, they do not rely solely
on doing this. They also eat whatever the hell they want, biofilms, right,
plant matter, insect larvae, small crustaceans, which could be a
(03:16):
problem for my other residence.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But no, that's the shrimp.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yes, I was keeping that a secret, but forget that. So, yeah,
I also have shrimp. Maybe we'll talk about them next time.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I will not say what my favorites are.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I did not give that all d Third, they can
be slightly territorial and aggressive. Oh so when they start
they start off as juveniles they are pretty chill, but
once they get older they become territorial, but mainly from
their own species. Like they want to like stake out
a piece of the tank or a piece of their environment,
(03:57):
that is for them against the flying foxes.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Fascinating. Yeah, are you not going to get more than him?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I doubt it. Yeah, because of that, Not necessarily because
of that, But I would like some other types of
algaeaters as well. Well.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
What are some others?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Well, you'll learn about that later, I guess. Fourth fact,
they enjoy very fast moving water, which you know, I
don't have a very fast moving water here. But I
have noticed that he does like to hang out on
one of the plant leafs that are kind of close
to the surface, right in front of where the filter
dumps in, and he has no problem staying in that current,
(04:35):
like he just hangs out there.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So fiddles about. Good for him. A strong swimmers.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, speaking of strong, the last fact is that they
are strong jumpers.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
They have very powerful bodies and can jump out of
the tank if startled or stressed, so you should keep
that in mind. Please.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
I am mostly staying back from gluing my face to
the side of the glass. I mean, I am literally
getting a little pain in my neck from staring like this.
It is like hypnotizing.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Of course it is. Oh my god, it lowers blood pressure,
does it? I think it does.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
So anyway, a secure lid is recommended for anybody thinking
about keeping a flying fox in their tank. So thank
you all for listening to today's fish facts.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Excellent, Ye, thank you surely.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Now, So speaking of fish facts, I guess I just
am in the mood to do something water related, which
is very unusual for me when it comes to my phobias, right,
but I decided to go a little, uh you know,
a little off what we've been doing lately, which is
all the true crime stuff, and go into like a
(05:52):
little bit more of a mystery that's not necessarily sea related,
but see adjacent related.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
So good for you going outside of your comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Well, thank you, surely. So. I I'd never heard about
this before. I I researched it, so I you know,
I don't know how this is going to go, but
we'll give it a shot.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So this is the mystery of the Flannan Isles lighthouse ghosts,
and it's f l A N n A N Flannan Flannon.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I don't know, Okay, Ireland, Scotland. Okay, so oh I
got us today freaking Saint Patrick's Day. No, I think
that's tomorrow. Shit, I thought I missed it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You didn't, all right, all right, So a little bit
of background, and I'm gonna say I don't even know
how to pronounce these things. Eileen Moore Moore, I guess,
(07:01):
I don't know. It's the largest of the Flannin Isles.
These are also known as quote unquote Seven Hunters. So
they're small, uninhabited islands about twenty miles west of the
Isle of Lewis, which I guess is like a main
island of Scotland. So this lighthouse was built between eighteen
(07:25):
ninety five and eighteen ninety nine shitz Very. It stands
seventy five feet tall and that is on the top
of one of a one hundred and fifty foot cliff Geeza.
So and as most people know, you know, lighthouses are
(07:45):
the things that guide ships through dangerous waters. So the
first time that it was lit was on the seventh
of December eighteen ninety nine, and it was operated by
the Northern Lighthouse Board. Station was typically manned by three
I guess lighthouse keepers at a time, and then a
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fourth one would rotate on and off for like.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
On shore leave ah.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You got me, So there's always going to be three
people there, okay, and then the fourth one would show up,
and then the first one would go away icy then
the first one would come back and the second.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
One would leave all right, get it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So they could go get their you know, go get
the next I was gonna say, go get their feet
on solid ground, but sure, or go get their tasty cakes.
So this island did hold a sort of spooky reputation.
Local shepherds would take that like they would take their
(08:49):
sheep there but they would never stay overnight. Why because
they believed it was haunted by spirits.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Ell yeah, so you know, so.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Whatever, it was like a spooky island with a mysterious
I guess not mysterious, but a majestic lighthouse. One would say,
I think I would absolutely like for a month. I
would love to be a lighthouse keeper. I mean not
by myself. I'm not saying just me in the lighthouse,
but like with like a friend or something. Hell yeah,
(09:20):
I mean beautiful views.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
All you have to do is make sure the lighthouse
stays on. I mean you're not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Not much responsibility.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Less responsibility than those than those petrol controllers, okay, less
responsibility also than those people who sit up in those
high towers in the forest to watch for wildfires the
call because you know that also could semi be relaxing.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But like, eh, not so much.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
So I think it would be very nice.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well maybe in another life you can do that.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
They have airbnbs like that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I don't think i'd want to stay in one. I
don't think they would be particularly cozy. I'd like to
stay in a little cottage. Do you stay in them?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think some of them you literally stay in them,
and some of them have a little like Pete's dragon.
I want to say, had a house next to God.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I loved that movie. Did we talk about that before?
I think we did. Oh shit, I thought we did.
That's from my dragon fixation slash dinosaur obsession first began.
I loved that movie. I was obsessed with him. I
wanted an Elliott. I'm sure I pretended I had one.
I'm sure. Oh my god, I loved that movie.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
I'll be your Candle on the Water. Very sad when
she lost her husband, but then he came back. Spoilers,
I wonder.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I guess Disney Plus would have that, right, Oh, I'm.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Sure they do. I mean those people who he escaped
from they were scary sons of bitches.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
That mother scared me so much, and like.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
They were dirty. He had like like coal on their face,
like soot.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
They did.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
And there was no reason for them to be sooty.
You know, they were in the forest. They weren't a
Chimney sweep.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
No, not like bird Right, got another good movie one
of my saves.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, no, you're right, the opposite. He gave me the opposite.
Feeling very safe.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Dawn nice down to earth. Yes, yeah, you're right man.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So anyway, right, all right, so back to this lighthouse
the timeline of events. So it is December fifteenth, nineteen hundred.
There is a ship passed by. It's a steamership, and
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it's passing by the island and they notice that the
lighthouse lamp was not lit. Oh shit, during a stormy night.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Someone's sleeping on the jub.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well, all three of them must have been.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, I forgot. They's supposed to be more than one.
You explained it to me, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
But you're falling asleep. That's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
My god, I am not falling.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Your story's done. You check out.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
That's not true. I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
We're gonna collect ourselves again. She's looking at me like
through half glazed over eyes.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm relaxed. I'm watching the wind.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Anyway, they noticed that it was not lit, and this
is obviously a huge no. No, that's the entire reason
you're there is to make sure that these things stay lit.
Because I read that even on very calm nights, those
rocks and stuff, they can they can still be completely
I don't want to say camouflage, but just disappear into
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the water, the landscape, whatever, so that it doesn't have
to be this crazy you know storm like aerial saves
Eric and it can just be a calm night on
the water. And sometimes calm nights are worse because then
there's no waves hitting the rocks to make any foam good.
So anyway, it was obviously, like I said, highly unusual
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that these things were not lit and the light should
have been operational, but it wasn't. So this this ship
reported that it wasn't lit when they passed it on
December fifteenth. Now we get to December eighteenth, so this
ship arrives in Port, same ship, Yes, in Leith l eih.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Sure I know a leath once. That's how I know
how to I see.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And so when they get to Port, they relay this
thing that they noted about the fact that this lighthouse
was not functioning or was not turned on or whatever
you want to say. They reported it to the Northern
Lighthouse Board, who, like I told you, if you were awake,
was rent she was awake. At this point was when
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they you know, those are the people that oversaw this lighthouse.
So however, this warning was not promptly passed along, which
doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I feel like we hear that so much. Where the
hell or the bells dingling ling?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
It was not promptly passed along, so no immediate action
was taken, even though that's so unsafe.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh, it's the whole, like you said, purpose like of
all things to take seriously, I would sure as hell
imagine it's that. It was how many days later too,
like someone three exactly, so someonecisely to go and check
things out.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, now we're at December twentieth, and this lighthouse board
they had a boat obviously, the boat's name was.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Hesperus sounds nice esperus.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
And it was scheduled to sail from the mainland to
relieve the lighthouse crew because, like I said, they were
on rotation. But unfortunately, bad weather delayed the trip. So
rough seas in this region made it impossible for this
vessel to sail as planned on the twentieth. So now
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we're going to jump ahead again. Now, the December fifteenth
was when the lighthouse was out. Now we're at December
twenty sixth.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
No one cares though.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So the Hesperus finally now gets to the island where
the lighthouse is and Captain James Harvey spelled hr v
i E. He is the you know, the captain of
the Hesperus, and he sounds the ship's horn and he
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fires a flare to alert the light keepers that they
are there. You know, they're pulling up hello, and they're
they're not getting any response from the lighthouse.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Just to go back to all of this, Yeah, and
when you think of the time frame, like not timeframe, sorry,
the era and nineteen hundred, you know, there's no way
to communicate quickly.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
So and like you said, this is the sole purpose
of the lighthouse. To allow this much time to go by,
to not even begin the journey to get to it
to check things out, I think is so wildly responsible.
You know, there's no phones, there's no way to quickly snapchat, right,
And I just what other way can these people in
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the lighthouse convey there's an emergency besides shutting the hell
besides shutting the light the hell off. That's it. That's
the only way that they can effectively commute.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Be sure about that though, aside.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
From the men switching on and off.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
They don't have like teleplayers.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, but I thought, like.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Lighthouse in trouble stop need help stop like, didn't they
do that in five Goes West? You know the hell
knows when that when that time period. You're right, we're
very uninformed.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That just made me think of sex in the City
when everything was happening with Charlotte and.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Oh yes Charlotte. Yeah, mother, stop seriously stop.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Harry's the funny reading it. Yeah, Bunny was a trickster.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Any way, Like I said, they get there, they get
no response, even though they tooted their horn and they
shot up a few flares. You would think, though, I mean,
if these people are just purely in the lighthouse, they
would see this without needing to hear or see a flare.
They would just see them pulling up. I mean, if
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they were doing their job correct, right right, yes, So anyway,
no response.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Things aren't looking good. Riddle me this of the rotation
that would take place, the one that most recently left,
do we know when that was or what he reported?
Obviously he reported things were fine. But do we know
when he.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
We don't know. No, but he does enter the story. Now.
His name was Joseph Moore.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh so did he come back on this bar instead?
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Because it was his time up in the rotation, he
was headed back, and then somebody else was going to leave,
so he was put ashore alone to investigate. That's nice,
yikes a break. So how many steps do you think
it was to get up to the lighthouse.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
One and seven?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, I mean specific, No, one hundred and sixty. So
he climbed all one hundred and sixty steps to that lighthouse,
and he found the lighthouse silent and empty, empty empty.
The entrance gate and the main door were closed, and
inside he discovered a few unsettling signs. So the kitchen
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was tidy, which is the exact opposite of my kitchen.
He would have been right at home in my kitchen.
He would have thought things are fine here. But there
were two sets of oil skin rain gear, I guess,
which was like you know what galoshes back in the day, right, Yeah,
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they were missing. And because they were missing this this
meant that two men had gone out at some point
in this storm gear.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And they didn't return. List today, I'm allowed to yawn, man.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
She yawned so long, closes her eyes, takes her glasses off,
has no clue on watching and staring at her as
she's doing this. Then she puts her glasses back on
and then says, and they didn't come back. No, this
episode's going to be it's so off the rails. But whatever,
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every few months, I guess we have to be completely insane.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Absolutely, they look for it. I love how I always
think to talk into it when it's not necessary. Not recorded.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
We are recorded. We are I've never stopped.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
All right, anyway, back back on track here, So okay,
all right, so he sees the kitchen is a mess.
Now he sees two coats were missing. Okay, so somebody
must have obviously gone out. Well, two people must have
obviously gone out. The beds were unmade, and the fireplace
had been unused for a few days.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know what, I suspect maybe to tell there was
a storm, two went out in it, and then the
third stayed behind. And then the reason that there aren't
like three pairs of ring you're missing is because the
third then went out after the storm, because the two
never came back and now they met their demise.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, well, wouldn't that mean all three pairs would be missing?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
No, because if the third went out when the storm passed,
they wouldn't have needed their oil.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Okay, rain gear cracked the case. So the clock on
the kitchen wall had stopped, and there was a single
set of oil skin remaining hanging, which indicated that one
of the lighthouse keepers, who apparently likely was Donald MacArthur.
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How do they know who stayed behind? I think I
think it's because they keep logs. Oh shit, sort of
like in Star Trek.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Oh my god, I loved Star Trek.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
So this is Captain Catherine Janeway the USS starship Enterprise.
That's not actually true. She was the captain of the Voice. God,
that was anyway, that was your favorite.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
I liked the next generation.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
There was mine and he was the Enterprise man. Correct,
we'll pick you.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Up, John Paul, John Paul Card.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Oh yes, anyway, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh Jean luc Jean Luke Picade, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
All right. So anyway, they did see that this one
coat was there, and they thought it likely belonged to
Donald MacArthur. And they think that this indicated that he
had actually left the lighthouse in a hurry without his coat.
So not what you thought, which was he waited for
a sunny day to go explore.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Good call. Also, though, what I think I was going
to say, the reason the two were in the log
book and he wasn't is because he left in a hurry.
So I see is that that follows that?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
So Joseph Moore decides he's going to rush back and
report that the lighthouse was deserted. So somebody is rushing finally, finally, yes.
So Captain Harvey then sent Monroe plus three volunteer seamen
back to the island to continue the search and basically
maintain the lighthouse. So I guess he was like basically
replacing the team.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
We've got to go back on the four people, right, well.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Three new people plus Joseph. So now we're still on
December twenty sixth, but now it's the afternoon. So a
thorough search to the lighthouse and the island was conducted
by Joseph and the other three people who volunteered, but
they found no trace of the keepers. Now, the three
keepers who were supposed to be there was James Duquat
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He was the principal keeper, Thomas Marshall was the assistant
to the regional manager, and Donald MacArthur was the occasional keeper.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
That was the title.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That's what it says.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah wow.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So now, however, they did observe signs that there was
recent violent weather.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I thought you were gonna say violence, Well, hence hence
ere go.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So at the western landing platform, which was about one
hundred feet above sea level, there was a supply box
that had been smashed open and its contents were strewn
all about.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Was anything missing? Could they tell?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
So? I don't know if things were missing, But the
iron railings on the port, not the port on the
platform were bent and.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Twisted from the storm.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Apparently part of a railway track for the tramway I guess,
which was maybe what they used to take supplies back
and forth, was torn up from the concrete and a
large rock weighing about a ton had become dislodged. So
obviously something was going on there.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, a scuffle, just a slight scuffle.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well I think it was a storm.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
All you think a scuffle they were fighting and they
just happened to move a ton. Well, I don't stone.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
How what kind of storms are they having out there
in nineteen hundred What.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Kind of people do you think are moving stones, having fights,
ripping up railways? Goliath, So some of the ground had
been ripped away from the cliff top two hundred feet
above sea level, and a life buoy that had been
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secured near the landing was missing, and its ropes were
all shredded, as if torn away by force teeth cloths.
So these clues pointed not to a monster, but to
an extreme storm or wave event, which tsunamis. That's terrible.
That's terrifying to me.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Scotland doesn't get I'm just saying hurricanes.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'm just saying no, no mega canes.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
I'll see you in twenty seventy and we're going to
be getting them, I assure you.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
So that evening, Captain Harvey sent a telegram from his
ship see a telegram. I knew they existed, right back
to this Northern Lighthouse board, and he said, quote, a
dreadful accident has happened at the Flannands, which is the island.
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The clocks were stopped, and other signs indicated that the
accident must have happened about a week ago. Oh poor fellows,
they must have been blown over the cliffs or drowned
trying to secure a crane end quote. So he seems
to have it all figured out. The relief keepers stayed
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on the island to keep the lighthouse in operation. While
Captain Harvey returned to the port to await further instructions
on what to do. So now December twenty ninth, So
I guess the Northern Lighthouse boards Superintendent Robert Moorehead, which
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reminds me of Agnes Moorehead. Who's that That was Samantha
Stephens mother on Bewitched.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I did not know that was her last day.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, Robert Morehead arrives on the island to conduct unofficial
investigation into these disappearances. So Morehead has personally recruited. He
had personally recruited all three of the missing men, and
he knew them very well. So he examined the evidence
and the remaining clothing. Notably, one set of the outdoor
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gear was again left behind, consistent with Joseph Moore's observation
what he told them when he ran back down the
only man with a sense of urgency. Moore had determined
that Marshall and Duquet likely ventured out onto the west
landing during this storm. That must have happened, while MacArthur,
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the one who left without his coat, probably rushed out
after them when they did not return. Moore had noted
that leaving the lighthouse unattended, violated the rules, which indicated
that the men must have felt like there was an
urgent need to go out there together. After surveying the
storm damage at the West landing, he concluded that quote
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unquote an extra large sea, which is basically what they
mean when they say that, to mean a giant wave
struck the island on December fifteenth. I was making a
point to say that because I had mentioned a tsunami
and you had said that's impossible, they don't have them.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I maintain that a large wave does not mean you're right.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You're right.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I'm not saying that Scotland can't have rough seas or
large waves or horrific storms.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
You're not saying that. Don't get me wrong. Well I've
got you wrong anyway. He did say a giant wave
he thinks hit the island on December fifteenth, and he
basically thought that it swept all three men into the sea.
That's freaking nuts.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh, it's terrifying. And didn't you say this lighthouse was
on the cliff. That's what he's saying that he thinks they.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
One hundred and fifty feet up.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Insane. How was that safe?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
It's obviously not but imagine how high that wave was.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, yes, I agree with that.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
But if it was a tiny wave compared to what
Talia has her knowledge of Tsunamis says otherwise, I.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Have done extensive research and watched video footage of Tsunamis. Wow,
and I regret it every time because I have a
nightmare or something, but it is most fascinating to me.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Well. Fine, So obviously, you know, his report, like it
brought some closure on the administrative level of like what
do we think happened here? Put something down, you know whatever, whatever,
But the fact that there's no witnesses and no bodies
that was, you know, still unnerving for a bunch of
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people when more heads official investigation had happened. Like I said,
it was thorough, but ultimately it could only infer what happened.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, I remember what I was gonna say. What is
it that we don't know that a wave did this?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, you're right, it could have been scuffle. So he
did carefully inspect the scene the lighthouse. Everything was in order.
The lamp had been cleaned and refilled. Uh, and there
were the preparations for the next lighting. They were done
and like ready to go. So that indicated that the
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men had completed their mourning duties on the morning of
December fifteenth. So then down at the west landing, like
I said, he found what he thought to be dramatic
evidence of storm damage. And from these observations he had
deduced that during the afternoon of the fifteenth, all these
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men went out to secure all of their equipment during
this storm, and it was such a crazy storm that
apparently a what he thinks is a large wave must
have come out of the sea and washed all three
men out into sea.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Poor fellows.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Right now, the families of these keepers and the general public,
they did not fully sort of just accept this because
they still thought, like, you know, it was a mystery,
and I know that people love a good mystery, they
sure do, right, So the fact that there were no
bodies and no witnesses left room for the imagination, and
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so newspapers started printing stories that were speculating wildly about
what could have happened. So, you know, like I said,
obviously there were a bunch of just wild stories and
things that could you know, that people were saying could
have happened. Obviously, a lot of like folklore and sea
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monsters mermaids, maybe a nice siren or two something like that.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Whats the siren?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
Kind of like a mermaid, but they sing say lists
to their death. Wow, how do you not know this?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I believe you, But how don't you?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I don't know. I don't know anything about folklore. M yeah,
it never really enthralled me.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Right, Yeah. So over the decades, this mystery has been
revisited by historians and researchers, and there has been some
new light that has been shed on the incident, and
this new light has helped to debunk some of the myths.
One significant contribution was made by author Mike Dash, who
examined the case for a newspaper. And Dash investigated the
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alleged lighthouse log book entries for the twelfth through the
fifteenth of December of that year that everybody disappeared, and
these entries described that severe storms were happening. It also
described that there were some unusual behaviors being exhibited by
the keepers, such as one man had been reportedly crying
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in fear and all three were set at some point
to have been praying, and the final log entry stated
this is a a quote here storm ended see calm
God is over all end.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Quote well, to me, that sounds like a well that ends.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well well, and I think everyone can agree you're wrong.
And three men because they were never seen again.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
In terms of I don't think it was then a
storm that did this because they were then Okay.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Well, listen to this modern analysis. Gosh revealed these log
entries were complete fabrication.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Get the hell out of here.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And they got added to the story long after nineteen.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Hundred, so they didn't even exist.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
That's what complete fabrications mean. Well, not the men, the logs. Yeah,
and I don't know how I don't know how literal
now you're taking this. There is no lighthouse at all, No,
there is, so in reality, the uh the lighthouse log
had normal entries up until the thirteenth of December, but
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there was nothing range in the log entries, so nothing scandalous.
Nobody crying, nobody praying. I was going to say, talking
to the mermaids.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
No harm in praying. I mean, I don't know why
that was standing out that the men can't pray unless
there's some weird shit going on.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
They were saying they were because they were all scared
of something. They were praying fear inference.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
But you don't have to pray because you're fearful, is
all I'm saying. You can be praying and be hippy
and not scared.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I don't think this is ever going to make it go.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Well, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
To be an episode I don't agree with. So later
researchers they focused on the geography and the science of
this island and they thought that it supported the rogue
wave theory. So the island's west landing sits on a
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steep sided now arrow gorge ending in a sea cave,
which how lovely. The sea cave a little spooky, I guess,
but it sounds magical to me.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
So storm waves funneled into this cut and they could
explode upward, explode great force. Well check check, check, how
about it? So one analysis pointed out that the assistant keeper,
Thomas Marshall, had previously been fined five shillings for five
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shillings for an incident where the equipment was lost in
a storm, and this detail, uncovered by a researcher named
James Love, suggested that Marshall would have been especially eager
to secure those outdoor like all the outdoor gear during
bad weather to avoid another fine, and the fact that
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he had this motivation adds way to the theory that
Marshal and the principal keeper do Cat went out despite
the storm, leading to this accident. Modern commentators agree that
the most likely explanation remains that a combination of bad
weather and the keeper's sense of duty resulted in their deaths,
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which is a tragic but completely normal scenario. So, of course,
because the men were never found, it will always though,
remain a mystery, so a couple of fun little stories,
or not stories, but fun little interpretations of what could
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have happened. So some of the speculations that are more
colorful were Some speculated that it was a giant sea
serpent sounds nice, or a monstrous seabird ooh, had come
and snatched the man off the island, which I guess
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was an idea that was more suited to the Middle
Ages because they used to like their monsters back then.
See monsters and such, there be monsters out there, or
whatever they used to say. Others wondered if the keepers
had maybe been abducted by a ghost ship. Perhaps it
was the cursed phantom of the Seven Hunters, for which
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the islands were nicknamed Ah. This ghost ship theory imagined
that a spectral crew spirited the lighthouse men away, and
they were even suggestions of foreign spies or pirates that
landed on the rock and kidnapped the keepers. Now why
the hell would they do that?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't know, man, I mean, I mean, I didn't
expect you to. But I think it's fascinating when you
think of all of the interpretations and like how we've
talked about this before, obviously, but like how these myths
are born and just kind of who thinks this stuff
up and like gets these theories out there and going.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
And slender Man right right right, So obviously you know
those are some whimsical theories, but sadly we're never gonna know.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
No, Well, may the men rest in peace. I don't
suspect they're well, obviously they're not still with us, but
even back in January of nineteen oh one, I don't
think they were with us.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I agree, Yeah, so very unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Can you imagine the survivor's guilt of the man I
can't think of his name that was not there, the
fourth man who came.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Back, Joseph Moore, I don't even know, I don't think
I would have that.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
What I mean, I freaking would I.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Don't think he didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Of course not, That's not what Survivor's guilt is. I'm
not suspected suggesting right.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Well, What I mean though, is like I remember, back
from our literal first episode ever, when we talked about
that man Survivor's skilt. I don't even remember who the
name of the man was. Well, oh pasta, yes, the
guy who like hurt his back and then he had
to go back to the town or whatever I can
see there, because that was that was out of the ordinary,
(41:23):
like he was planning ongoing and something happened and he
didn't go. This man was just purely taking his turn,
just regardless them get to do right, So it was
a normal thing.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Okay, well in that case, but I respect that you
would have it. Oh my, that would haunt me forever forever.
I wouldn't be right again, How.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Would we even tell the difference?
Speaker 4 (41:56):
Why?
Speaker 1 (42:00):
All right, I hope this is not anybody's first time
listening to this.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Way more jovial. That's all not about this disappearance, No,
certainly not disappearances, I should say.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
But I mean I still think it would be a
beautiful place to visit, to be completely totally.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
God rest these three souls.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Absolutely, and you know from from what I saw, I mean,
nothing ever happened to any of the people who took
over for them, so we were safe and sound, right,
But I mean.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Awful.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I would say, you know, you gotta be freaking careful
when you're doing that. Absolutely, But anyway, well, good job.
It wasn't my best work, but it was just something
off the beaten path of like, here's something, you know,
fascinating that happened.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Even how many years centuries ago? Yes, I think was
lovely that you did. One from a different area, from
a different area.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Well, it's also a different area. We're not in Scotland,
so a different area and era. Right, So have you
ever been to an actual lighthouse.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
In like New Jersey and looks fine and Maine?
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, I was just I don't think I have. Yes,
I have, I don't think. So have you actually been
up like where you can look look out of it?
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yes? And if I'm not missing to say that.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
Very solemnly, yeah, they're just not my favorite, which is
mind blowing because it represents everything you like and the
only distinction is I brought it up.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Oh my gosh. False. I want to say also Rhode Island,
but I might be making that up. Or maybe Connecticut,
I want to say, want to like, for instance, while
(44:07):
we're talking about it, that new book I said, I
started today, Wild Dark Coast and this father and his
kids they live on this you know, uninhabited now island,
and there's a lighthouse. And she one of the daughter's
comments like the family lives in the whitehouse. She does
(44:30):
not and hasn't. And I thought to myself, well, that
sounds lovely, Like I don't even know where the hell
she lives. I think she lives among the seals or something,
it said, but also sounds nice. She pretty much is
always in the water. She swims with them. They're very
playful and adorable. I would not want to be in
that lighthouse, but.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
I think I think they're too narrow.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I think that's what it's about.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I know there' a lot of steps, and that would suck. Yeah,
gorge myself, and then I have to get to my bed.
Who needs the hassle of that?
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Well, you could just flop on the bottom.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, yeah, Well, if anybody's still there, thank you for
sticking around.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
This was nice.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
It's been an exercise and what would it be an exercise? Yes,
an exercise and patience. So we thank you all for
your patience.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yes, always with us every time.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
Hopefully at least you chuckled or something. Who knows. I'm
done now, So all right, everybody listen as always, stay
safe and stay chill. Fine, goodbye everybody, you've just listened
to Chilworthy. Thank you for joining us on this latest step.
(46:00):
While we strive to keep our discussions engaging and lighthearted,
we also wanted to take a moment to acknowledge the
real lives and events that are at the heart of
these stories.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
We try to approach each topic with a sense of
curiosity and respect fully, aware of the impact these events
have had on the individuals and their loved ones. Our
goal is to honor their memories by keeping their stories
alive and shedding light on the mysteries that surround them.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
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