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Speaker 1 (00:08):
You're listening to Chillworthy.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
A podcast we're two best friends discuss mysteries, murders, and
anything in between for your enjoyment.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
So if you're ready to hear some chilling and unsettling cases,
you're in the right place, happy listening. Hello, Hello, everybody,
Welcome back to another episode of Chillworthy with your host
Brent and Talia. Hi everybody, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm doing great. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I'm good? Thank you good. So have you read any
books lately?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Sorry I was drinking. I sure have now, not many?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay, yeah, well why don't you tell us about them?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So? I recently read Listen for the Lie. I read
it with a mutual friend of ours, and I really
liked it. I was going back and forth on how
to rate it at the end because I didn't love
the ending. So she was accused the main character of
(01:15):
killing her best friend, and you know, I don't want
to give anything away, but there were some things at
the end that I struggled with that I felt like
there were some like sort of like broad generalizations on
some characters that I felt like, eh, is this realistic?
(01:36):
I don't know? Okay, but it was excellent it was
a very good book. I gave it initially a four. No,
I think I did keep it at a four. I
was going to say that I was contemplating a three
to a four, but I think I did actually keep
it at a four. Good writing I kept me on
the edge of my seat. I was so sucked in.
I was excited, you know, to keep going back and
(01:57):
reading more.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I did.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I did really like it, but then I found myself
in a reading rut. I didn't know what to read next.
I had a few options. I started calling me home.
I think it's called kind of like, oh oh oh,
I wanted to tell you about this. So I googled. Okay,
so I'm reading it and I'm just not feeling it.
So I googled like, because you know, I'm trying to
(02:24):
turn over a new leaf on like not wasting time
reading things that I don't enjoyed. Great, right, I found
this and the woman was like, you know, if you're
fifty and under, you read the first fifty pages and
if you don't like it, stop. If you're older than fifty,
you subtract your age from one hundred and whatever that
(02:47):
number is is the page number you go up to
before you decide to stop. Very fascinating, right. So I
didn't even make it to fifty for the Calling Me
homebook stopped it. Dan, I was super excited from Manhattan Beach.
Tried that, tried, I tried multiple days, wasn't getting very far.
(03:08):
It was fine, but just wasn't like sucking me in
like the other one. You know how on Libby you
can do a search for like what books are available
now for free or not for free? Sorry, they're all
for free? What has no Way writing list?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So I did that just to see, like, what's going on,
what's available out there? Because what I did have I didn't.
I just wasn't feeling. So I did that and the
women came up. And this book that has consistently, like
I feel like, followed me for the last year or so.
I saw it in some bookshops and then it was
coming up on some websites. It's called The Beasting. I
(03:48):
forget who the author is, Paul. I want to say,
is this first name? Possibly Peter? Possibly neither, Okay, but
it's basically like the Butterfly Effect and it so the
author is from Ireland and that's where the story takes place,
(04:10):
and it's a novel and it like goes through this
like families day to day and basically as according to
the description, do you read the descriptions before you read
a book, Yeah, you must. Yeah. I worked with somebody
who never did that, Like they made a point of
not doing it, which I you know, they always knew
(04:31):
that they were considering like psychological thrillers, but they didn't
read like the details of the book, which I always
thought was so wild, but also like good for them.
I could never do it.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
No, I wouldn't let Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
This book describes something like you know, what if this
didn't happen? And what if that didn't happen, it would
this still happen within the family? And da da da
da dah. And when I've seen it in the book stories,
it's like a really thick book. So I dabbled in
that for a few pages. And then I also started
The Women by Kristin Hannah, and it's about women's role
(05:09):
in the Vietnam War, also a novel, but like historical fiction.
So I think that's the one I'm probably going to
really run with. And I'm still reading yeah, and I'm
still reading wild, dark Shore that I talked about last time.
Oh my god, it's so sad. I'm hope for seventy percent.
I'm hoping to finish by tomorrow, possibly tonight, but I
(05:30):
doubt it. Oh my god, this book is so sad,
so full of trauma and just and I don't even
think i've like, I definitely have not hit the trauma
for all the characters. It is such a deep and
heavy read. It's fantastic. It is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Well, I'm glad you're enjoying it the depression. Thank you, absolutely, Okay,
so thank you for that book stuff for me. I
also just finished a book, oh shit, which I did
tell you about. Allegedly you finished it yesterday, right, yes,
(06:11):
and I mean okay, So again, I know I always
sound like a buzzkill. Not my kind of book. It wasn't.
It wasn't fantasy, it wasn't horror, it wasn't even big
time thriller. But I did go through the whole thing
and it was sad, which I think you'd like, depressing,
(06:32):
which I think you'd like. Just talked about the like
messed up kind of childhood No, well yeah, but more
like social work system, Oh shit, things of that nature.
And the premise is basically that the character you're following
(06:58):
was accused allegedly of killing a baby when she was
like eight or something.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
God an eight year old who killed.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
A baby allegedly, and so it just kind of follows.
It follows her story and you know just what she's
dealing with and whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So this is a novel or nonfiction.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
No, it's not real, okay, So yeah, but how'd you
find it? I think TikTok recommended it or something, and
I was just like, okay, sure, let's put it on.
And like I said, I mean, it was not a
bad book, but it's just not my genre. So yeah,
you know. But anyway, now for the moment everybody's been
(07:46):
waiting for fish facts, I should get some type of
intra music for that, right, Okay. So we discussed the
two residents of Atlantica that were the zebra Danios as
well as the flying fox algae eater.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I'm very sad. I can't stare at them as you're
going to be talking.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I am too.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Tonight, Like I don't know where to look. I guess
that one of the dogs, I guess, and her snories.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
The third resident of Atlantica are there's a bunch of
them snails. Bladder snails my favorite.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Oh my god, I'm obsessed with these little sweet souls.
I wish you could show pictures, like, do a power
point right now for our.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Chillers, so anybody can look them up. Bladder snails B
L A D D R.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm so excited for these little wonderful old joys. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So they were the only resident that I did not purchase.
They just came on the plants.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Their gore GISTs, they have like translucent shells. They're gorgeous.
They're little sweety mouths, they're little antennas. Okay, go ahead, Sorry,
they're so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Okay, so the five fun facts. Number one, Bladder snails
have basically like some type of lung like structure that
let them breathe air at the surface, but they can
also extract oxygen from under the water through their skin.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Did we discuss this or am I making it up?
I was saying to Ashley the other day because I
was like thinking to myself, well, she kind of was
pushing it too, Like I was going on and on
about how much I love them, and she's like, you
should get a tank just with them.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I was like, I got yeah, we did discuss it.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, now I mean literally half filled.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
So you're gonna say they can be in the house.
I was gonna say they can be yes, literally right there.
Oh my god, I mean we should know what you know.
We can't even talk about this right now because that's
because nobody cares about where you're going to put a
fish tank in your house. So just but we'll we'll
revisit it.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
No, wait a minute. Even that big O that I love,
and the new big O that you said you got,
that's even bigger all plants you did not.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh no, no, no though, no, the one big o' that
you're talking about that has the ursula shell, that one
came on a plant, the big big one I bought. Wow,
okay next.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
They reproduce rapidly and they are hermaphroditic. Shit, so they
have both male and female reproductive organs. Who knew, and
they can self fertilize if needed, which is why they
can expand so quickly in aquariums. Because you got one,
(10:37):
you can have a hundred. They won't be stopped.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Life finds away. I should name my first one Malcolm
for that quote, you.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Would never be able to differentiate them. Just so you know,
this is probably my favorite fact here. They're one of
the very very few snails where their shells spiral to
the left instead of the right.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
So unlike many other aquatic snails, bladder bladder snails have
a left coiling shell. Why I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Why do they call them bladder snails? Do you have
that as a fact?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But I don't. But I do know why, which I'll
tell you in a second. The fourth, you know, they
help clean aquariums. They will eat some of the dirt
that falls onto the bottom, some dead plants, like all
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
When I've stared at them in your tanks, they are
like little suction cup vacuums with their little sweet mouths
just sure right up against the glass. They are the
most precious beings I've ever seen in my life. I
love them, Oh my god, I love them. I was
talking to Ashley about them the other night for like
a half hour. I couldn't help myself. They're angels.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yes, they're very hearty, which is why they that right this,
That's why they lived in the tank from day one
before fish were even able to live in there because
they don't give a damn nothing.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Nothing stops them.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
No, And I believe that they are called bladder snails
because they have the ability to take in air in
a certain bladder like structure that lets them float to
the top when they want to get more air, and
then they release it and then they will sink again.
So like they do this, I have seen them sometimes
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on the top and then they'll just like fall back down,
so kind of just float, just float at the top.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So but anyway, that's uh my fish facts.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
To I'm thrilled. I love them, as I've said. Yes,
they're angelic.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
All right, that's it. That is that. And now we're
going to start our my god, oh.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
My god, wait, I have to tell you this. I
think I did actually, but here we go again for
the chillers. They'll regret this, not regret it, well, they'll
regret listening.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So let that be the judge, right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So, as you know, I love natural weather disasters, specifically tornadoes.
So the other day, you know, looking at Netflix and
there's this show I forget what it was called, and
I thought, oh, is this like fake? Is this a documentary?
I'm not sure so I clicked it, and I was
(13:37):
certain it was not real at first, and I googled it.
I was just not convinced, and my googling, you know,
confirmed it's a documentary. I was like, okay, so it's
about this tornado that happened in twenty eleven in Joplin, Missouri.
Holy shit. It was an F five, which is, you know,
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highest on the fujitsu scale. I want to say it's
called I might be calling that the.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Wrong thing fujifilm. No, I don't know, solaroid.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I was just gonna say, do you remember the film
developing Places and the smell? I already talked about it.
My mom took me right. Oh my god, Oh my god.
I can't believe I just forgot this. Wait, we have
to go back the episode that I covered last about
Becky Morodi.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
While we were meeting doing the next episode, possibly one
after that, my mom as like you and I were
wrapping up or no. I when I was leaving your house,
my mom texts me that they found Yolanda in Mexico.
And then I looked through the pictures of her ar rest.
She looked rough, but they freaking got her. Oh who
(14:55):
the hell cares that she looked rough.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I assume maybe once you get a little more information,
you'll do.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Like, but I'm not guilty. Yeah maybe I will anka Anyway,
So back to the tornado.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Damn, yeah, I mean yeah, I know you thought you forgot.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I surely didn't. So, oh my god, this was so wild.
It was a mile wide, obviously in F five, so
it was massive. This So, first of all, did you
know that tornadoes can be sick? This one was so
because it was in Missouri, and you know, it was
(15:37):
in the ozarks. It traveled through the ozarks, and it
traveled through the water, and it picked up a bacteria
in the like from the water. So there were two
individuals that were swept up into this tornado and lived
and they got to tell the tale.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
They sure did.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And one participated in this documentary.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Got a flesh eating bacteria.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I don't go for that. That's chillworthy to me.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Oh well, if you watch this documentary, you would be fainting.
It was so wild. It showed so this boy he
was a boy when it happened, and they were showing
the news coverage and like the footage from his interviews,
he was not expected to live, like less than five
percent chance of living. He survived. He was in a coma.
(16:25):
He still has the scarf from the track. He They
had to cut this out of him, his torso and body.
The skin was so thin you could see his heart beating.
It was insane. I don't like any Oh my god,
it was insane. He survived, and you know, now I
would suspect he must be, I want to say, in
(16:49):
his thirties. And he lifted his shirt and showed the
injuries again. He's definitely healed. Like he does not look
like he looked like you did you know in the news?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
I gotcha.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, And this skin isn't this thin. But oh my god,
his body was ravaged by this this documentary. I felt
so sick by the end of it and unsettled, and
I love this shit. It's like late at night, I'm
like texting my mom like, oh my god, I just
watched this, and she's like, oh, I hope you don't
get nightmares.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
And I said, I know, I just thought of that too.
I probably am.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
And I never did. But boy, do I want to
go back and watch that again. I want to watch
it like three more times.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Golly gee, whizz, maybe you should. Now Unfortunately we're we've
hit the fifteen minute mark.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
All right.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
I had to tell you, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just
saying so now, fine, you know we're got done rein
it in no pun intended.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay, you're doing the tipic.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I'm doing the topic.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Guess right.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
So, and you know, somebody did just make a very
interesting point. We were meeting with a potential collab another
collab and lovely yes, and he said, you guys seem
to be pretty deep into the true crime. And I thought,
you know, we have really only been doing true crime
(18:20):
for quite a while, like cases, case after case after
no more paranormal, no more mystery. I gotta get I
gotta switch it up again. I kind of miss doing
a little bit of that anyway, but it's not today.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
So this is the I'm sorry, I'm laughing.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I'm joyful. I guess it just went on longer than
I expected. All right, So today's case is the disappearance
of Misty Copsy. Okay, so Misty was a fourteen year old, which,
(19:05):
of course, my god, it brings me back to like
Misty Day from American.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Her story play with her radio.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
She goes you broke stee there.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I was thinking that her name was Dusty for some reason.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Dusty.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Wrung, Oh Busty, Oh my god, hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, So anyway, Misty was a fourteen year old girl
from Spanaway, Washington. She was tall, blonde haired, and she
was in junior high school. She was described as being
friendly and basically your typical teenager. She lived at home
with her mother, whose name was Diana, and she had
just started her freshman year at Spanaway Lake Junior High
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in the fall of nineteen ninety two. Close, close, but
no cigar.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
I might still say it.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Misty was, I wrote.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Later.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Misty was responsible and she was well behaved. She had
no history of running away, just keep that in mind
from home, and no reason to leave intentionally. So her
mom and her were very close. Diana was a single
young mother who worked hard to provide for Misty despite
some past struggles. I guess she had some alcohol issues
(20:30):
in Dui r res so, but during that summer mother
that her mother and her their relationship was on very
good terms and so like things were fine at home.
And that's right, And that's just to say that Misty
from all accounts wasn't unhappy and it wasn't like a
bad relationship.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Or nothing she had to flee from.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Right, So one thing Misty was really looking forward to
was the I don't even know how to pronounce this
pooh y'all up, poo yell up fair, p u y
a l l up put yallop. I think, all right,
(21:18):
we'll put p yallop fair. This was held every September
in pa Yallop, Washington.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Good job.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Did you go to fairs when you were little? Or
carnivals the carnifolks.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Lightly softly.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
All right?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Like I wasn't against it, but I wasn't like dying
to book carnivals. But I did go to them. I
loved the food.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Want any of those stuffed animal crap things. I didn't
want any of that.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I mean, I always wanted to play for the goldfish. Now,
obviously I know better that those things are tortured and
live such a sad existence, but I wanted a goldfish bad.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I remember walking by them. I thought they were beautiful.
I didn't really want one, though, fine, I just wanted
the food.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah. All right, Now, were you this is my last
question before we get back into this. Were you if
you had to choose a caramel or candy apple kind
of chick.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
I don't even know what you're asking.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I said, were you a caramel or candy? Which one
did you prefer?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I don't know what you're asking. I've never had either.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Well, then neither, I guess you're neither.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
I suppose neither caramel is caramel?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
What's on the keyn Gucci is Gucci?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Oh my god, that takes me back back. Quote. We
don't even have time to explain. No, No, we have
no time.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
We haven't the time.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Candy is dipped in something where it comes like it
comes out like this really hard, really hard, almost like
lollypop escu, and it always reminds you of like it's
like bright red, like what the evil Queen would give
snow white tooth.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, basically, so, I've never had either, but I think
if I was presented with each, I would say I
want the caramel, and I liked candy candy. Yeah, did
you ever heard of tooth? I mean, are you biting into.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
This into it? It's not plasing it first, not really, Yeah,
because you never get anywhere.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Right, not like the center of the tits one, A two,
A three. The kittles are not That was a good commercial,
of course it was. You know, I still see it sometimes.
(23:59):
I'm I'm not making that up.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
All right. So anyway, we're back to this. This is
a big event in this town. So you know, this
is the kind of place where teenagers would go for
these rides, games, food, the concerts they would have. So
Misty had gone in years past, but this time was
a little bit different because she finally had convinced her
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mom to let her go without adult supervision.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
My mother did not let me do a damn without
until supervision, and good for her.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I was gonna say, what was your history? I can't
blame her.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
She was thinking she was on it. So were you
like restricted in that way or could you just do
whatever the hell you want?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I restricted myself. I was not interested in doing anything
without adult supervision. I wanted nothing to do with that bullshit.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well that's so, yeah, I'm good that all worked out.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I'm just saying, right, first, yeah, I guess. So Misty's
best friend, who was fourteen year old Trina Beverd, she
was also going to go with her that day, which
was a Thursday, to this fair, which was September seventeenth,
nineteen ninety two. So Diana had agreed to this that
you know, she could go without her, but there were
(25:28):
going to be some conditions.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
I have a bad feeling Diana should not have given
the freedom that she gave. But maybe I'm wrong and
not that this is Diana's fault. May I say if
that is what happened, you may say it. I will
say it.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Okay, Yeah, has been said. Diana's misty was supposed to
take a public bus home that evening since Diana's she worked,
and she worked as a caregiver for an elderly woman
and it would run overnight, so.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Like her job.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Would I ask you, yes, I didn't have an issue
with you asking excuse me for breathing of all things.
That's a normal question, and I'm happy with it.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I thought you were taking a huff. No, before you answered,
you were upset with you.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
No, not right now? Here is though, something that's not great.
I will say this. I still agree it's not Diana's fault. Nobody,
you know, nobody could predicted this. But Trina's parents weren't
so hip on the idea of them going without adult supervision.
So Diane decided to tell Trina's parents she was going
to take them. No, no, no, even though she didn't
(26:41):
take them no or be with them, is what I'm saying. Friend, Yes,
the cool mom.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
So that's no good, no way to go. No good
comes from that.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah. So, anyway, did you have any what.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Did you know any parents like that when you were
growing up? I didn't.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
No, I don't know. Yeah, same, not really.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, I feel like I would have been very disturbed
by that.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
So, like I said, to basically satisfied Trina's parents, Diane
did a little white lie and said that she was
going to be there, and she was going to it
at the very least, she'd be also be picking the girls.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Up at the end, and that wasn't happening, you.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Know, because they were supposed to take the bush.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Which I don't know, so safety. She's a son of
a gun that was bold to to, oh, I don't
even know, like to do that with your own kid
and have that plan in place, and like you feel
comfortable with that, yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
But it's not good. Yeah, it's not especially because it's like,
I mean, you you know, somebody else's child and you're
sort of assuring them that you're going to take care
of them.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
And that's definitely not from the adult. That's not even
like Misty saying, oh, my mom's gonna do this, She's
gonna be there, don't worry about anything, like the adult
is telling the other adult.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
This like nailed that down pretty tight. We all we
all have it a bunch of bullshit just for the listeners.
This was an adult saying it.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So if she's said nobody, he's gonna know enough.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
So anyway, right, Misty is, she's a static at this
turn of events. Right, So she even borrowed a pair
of her mother's new genes for the occasion. My god,
and they were the trendy light blue stonewashed jeans.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Oh stonewashed that were just.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
A little bit too big, So Misty got to roll
them off at rolled them up at the cuffs.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That was in your research. This makes me, so, said,
do you remember being fourteen?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I mean no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Well I sure as hell do. And you are a
chi old you are you are not even a teenager
at fourteen. Let me assure you.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I'm assuming at fourteen, I was in my basement watching
the Golden Girls and Xena back to back anyway sounds nice? Yeah,
was right. She had on a navy blue sweatshirt and
brown suede shoes. So Misty heads out the door that afternoon.
Obviously nobody knew that she was never coming back. Oh
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my god, Diana, Misty's mom drops Misty and Trina off,
and I'm just calling it the fair from this point, I.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Think that's best.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, at the fair around three o'clock on September seventeenth,
so the girls wandered around it. It's a big fair,
so lots of sights and sounds and smells of food,
carnival games, stuff like that. Right, So that night the
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fair was especially busy because a Huey Lewis and the
News concert was playing, drawing in thousands of visitors and
clogged thousand, thousands and clogging traffic in the small city.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I had a thought, one thing, congratulations, One thing that
I liked, Yeah about affairs that I forgot to say.
The freaking rides. Man, I freaking loved the rides as
a kid. I can't believe that I forgot that.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I liked the the one ride where it was like
centrifugal force was keeping you in where you stood.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Against the wall and it was like a big ring.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, stood there.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, hope for the best. Somehow we all made it.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yeah, that was fun. That was wild, wild times.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I liked Till to Whirl.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I also liked the Scrambler was my favorite.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
That scared me a little, but I went on it.
Do you remember that big ship?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Oh God, yes, I freak that. No, I love that
ship too. So anyway, there's a lot more people even
than on a normal night, is what I'm trying to say,
and I literally mean trying to say.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Fine.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Right, so they are enjoying their evening time ended up
flying by faster than they realized, which would happen at
a fair as a child, of course. So the girl's
plan was to catch the eight forty pm Pierce Transit
bus that was going to go from downtown pull yap
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po yea out lap back to span Away. This was
going to be the last bus of the night heading
to where they needed to go. So sometime after eight pm,
Misty and Trina make their way towards the bus stop,
but they were too late because by eight forty they
watched the last span Away bound bus pull away without them.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
You know what, I'm wondering the.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Fact, not really that I never have to wonder too long.
What are you wondering, the.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Fact that you are calling this the case of Misty's
disappearance and wondering Trina does not all.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
See verious stute go missing, very various stute. So now
suddenly as this bus leaves, you know, now we've got
two ninth graders stranded in downtown Puyallop as night starts
to fall. And again, you know, we're in the nineties,
the early nineties, So nobody's popping out a cell phone
to get an.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Uber good call or to call their mother.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yes, I thought that was obvious, but yes, anyway, So
initially Misty's not too worried. She had a backup plan.
Earlier in the day, the girls had tentatively made arrangements
for an older friend, an eighteen year old Ruben Schmidt.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Oh, I see, a senior, possibly older, is going to
go pick up these junior high.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Kiddos to give them a ride home if they needed it.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Oh good.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
So Ruben was an acquaintance, but he had quite the
crush on.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Misty, the fourteen year old.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yes, so relying on him to pick them up was
definitely not part of Diana's plan. She said, take the
bus home, which they missed. Misty's mother did not trust
this boy all. And I don't know if I have
this further down, so if I start talking about it later,
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tell me. But one of the reasons or the reason why, uh,
that's not supposed to I'm sorry. I got distracted because
you know from a few episodes ago when Talia made
that really long yawn and took her glasses off and
I don't know, gargled mouthwash while I was telling this
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story and then she's like, and they didn't come back
in actually that that episode hasn't even air yet, it's
this week's. But she just really threw me off because
she's doing it again.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
But always just silently.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yon, you did and your eyes were open this time.
So that's better than nothing. The chillers will know about
what I mean, next week's fine.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Fine.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
The reason that the mother was not a fan of
this boy was because she had picked up the phone
one day when the two of them were talking on
the phone, Misty and Ruben, and she heard Ruben being
very forward, inappropriate, yes about things.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
With her fourteen year old You.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Got it, yub so that's why she wasn't a man
of any of this idea. Yeah, okay, so god. So
Misty and Trina were now considering Colin, I got Southwestern
there Colin, Misty and Trina were now considering calling Ruben
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for help, so they actually did. He had been contacted
sometime that evening, so Misty ended up calling him and
asked if he could come pick them up. He says
that he could not come and pick them up he
didn't have enough gas in his car. Strange and so
by the time this conversation ends, the girls don't have
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any way of getting home, so they're just looking for
another solution. So now around eight forty five, Misty finds
a payphone and calls her mom at work. I'm assuming
she was a little anxious about doing this. You know,
probably you would have been.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Oh my god, I would have been sweating big time. Now.
The thing is, though this phone calls her her mother,
I feel like, does clear Ruben because she would have
called her mother. I assumed to say, like, we're stranded,
we have no way home, we missed the bus. I
assume she left out the Ruben detail, right.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I'm thinking she probably did because she knew that her
mom really disliked him.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Right, But I'm thinking if he's saying, like, yeah, they
did call me and I couldn't do it, why else
would she have called her mother? Then, like, I feel
like it makes sense, like that, does you would think?
Clear him though?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yes, potentially.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
So Misty admits to her mom that they did miss
the bus, and Diana is upset but trying to stay calm.
So obviously they're asking this obvious question, now, what the
hell do we do? She could not leave her job
because the patient she was looking after that night was
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ninety seven, so she told Misty she was going to
have to find another ride, maybe call somebody that they
both knew and trusted. So she said, why don't you
find somebody else and call me back when you know
who it is? So that I'm cool with it and
you're cool with it more so, so she's cool with.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
It, all right, but put the responsibility on Misty to
figure this.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Out, I guess. So Misty then immediately brings up Reuben,
and I guess she might I guess she might have
said like, well, this is something we were trying and whatever,
and Diana shuts that down immediately no, not him. So
Misty promises that she'd figure something out and she would
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call Diana back once she did. That was the last
time Diana ever spoke to Misty. I literally just got
the chills too worthy. Yes, So after hanging up, Misty
and Trina realize that they had to part ways because
Trina's home was in a place called Sumner and that
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was actually closer. This is the part that's so that's
so crazy to me. It was actually within walking distance
of the ferry losing my voice was it was in
walking distance of the fair. It was only a few
miles away. So one's thinking, but see, well, actually no,
I guess that doesn't make sense because Trina's parents think
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that Diane is with them and going to pick them
up and take them home or whatever. So if you know,
Trina just shows up on the doorsteps saying, hey, that's
not going to be good for anybody, right. So but anyway, but.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I'm going back to the girls separating. I'm thinking back
to being that age anywhere from that age up, there
is no way in hell I would have left any
of my friends and separated.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
On that yet.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Well, and I would also like to speak for all
of my friends at that time, and I can't imagine
any of them would.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Be like, all right, Sea, good luck to you, like
they wouldn't be leaving me either.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
I like, these aren't you and your friends?
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I'm just saying nice.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
But I just I don't understand how that seemed, like,
especially that Misty told her mom was going on. Granted
Trina her parents were still in the dark.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
But I just this was such a bad idea.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I yeah, well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
M H. So Trina had a strict ninive.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Curfew, bizarre time, arbitrary.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, weird, So she's She's basically like, I can't wait
around it longer, so you know, I got to go.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
But you would think then, I don't know how they
would have explained this, but that Misty would have gone
home with her.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
That's what I was thinking too. But again it's it's
I think the point of that is right, because it's like,
I guess Trina could have been like, oh, yeah, they
dropped me out, like she's gone now, but not if
right exactly, not if Misty is also there, like oh yeah,
your mom dropped her own daughter off too, Like that's you.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Know, well, I feel like but even that you would
think kids would be thinking like six steps ahead and
thinking like, oh yeah, my mom didn't do you think.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Kids would be thinking six steps ahead.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'm thinking Misty could have been like, oh, I wanted
to sleep over, and I asked my.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Mind and we didn't bother to ask you. And my
mom left though before we actually got like the approval
to do so, and all that stuff. And my aunt Talia,
I mean, she always says I think like way ahead,
you know. Yeah. Yeah, So anyway they are now basically
they're splitting up. Yeah, her house, like I said, was uh,
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Trina's house was a few miles away. Missy's house was
at least eight miles away up on South Hill in Spanway,
which was definitely too long of a walk to attempt
at night and for me just in general. So now,
according to Trina's later statements, they initially thought that Misty
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would find a ride. Wow whoever, I don't know, I
don't know. So Trina claims that the last time she
saw Misty, she was heading towards the bus area as
Trina was walking towards her house. So at that time,
Trina told investigators that she simply walked the whole way
home alone, and now Misty is now by herself and
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she has left to figure out how the hell she's
getting home. So I guess Misty considered trying to catch
a different bus route, but the only other option that
she could come up with was that she was gonna
walk home also, and maybe she could like hitchhike er
get a ride or something, which brings me all the
way back to one of our early early episodes of
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that kid in Alaska who was just bebopping around the state.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Of course he was a little pioneer, but that.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Was her pioneer, Yees. So we don't exactly know what
Misty did in those moments after eight forty five, but
there was a bus driver who later came forward to
report a sighting of Misty that night, and he said
that around nine to twenty pm he saw a tall
teenage girl fitting Misty's description, and she approached his bus
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in the downtown area and asked when the last bus
to span Away was leaving, and he told her that unfortunately,
his was the last bus and it had already left,
like it had already done its final run and they
were done for the night. So he did mention to
her from what he says, that she could catch a
different bus to Tacoma and transfer. But I guess he
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said before he could give her any details on this,
she just kind of seemed like distressed and like probably
starting to get panicky, and she just walks away, like
out of his sight and he doesn't see her again.
So in this brief encounter though with the bus driver,
this was the last confirmed sighting.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Of Misty and nine you said, yes.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Now there was an un There was one other unconfirmed
sighting later in the night. Some motorists said that they
thought they saw a young girl walking along Meridian Street
near one of the on ramps to Highway five twelve
around ten pm that was headed westbound, which I guess
this would make sense because if Misty had started walking,
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it would have been around that time and it would
have been in that direction. So now Diana finishes her
overnight shift.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Well and real quick. All right, let's not forget that,
like you said earlier, with a time frame, not timeframe,
time span, no like era.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I guess, oh like period.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
Right, Misty cannot communicate with Diana anytime she wants to.
She has to be near a phone, like, she can't
just whip her cell phone out and call her mom.
So that's another like barrier in all.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Of this, all right, So why I mentioned it? Yeah,
So Diana finishes her overnight shift in the early hours
of September eighteenth, and she discovers that Misty had not
returned home. And now she's starting to panic, of course,
and I bet she is starting to sweat.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I'd be doing more than sweating if my kid didn't
come home. And it's freaking past midnight, and the way
the circumstances were when they last spoke, none of this
is good.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
You're right, Oh my god. So by that morning, Diana
was calling anybody and everybody she could think of, friends, neighbors,
Trina's family. I wonder how that went, hoping to hear
that Misty had turned up somewhere. So she quickly confirmed
though that Trina was at home safe and sound.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Great, no shit, because they separated, and actually was Trina
given up though she's describing all of this and saying.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
That probably not at the moment, but Trina actually was
the one that phoned Diana to ask if Misty got
back all right, because she had not heard that was brave, yes, well,
but that that mom knew.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
But still, like, I just feel, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Misty wasn't with any relatives or anything like that. So
as the day wears on, no word, Diana's fear only intensifies,
and finally she contacts which I'm thinking finally, I mean
that would have been like my fourth call or something,
but whatever, whatever, Finally she contacts the authorities to report
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Misty missing. So I'd love to say this is like
a crazy thing, but we I know, we always seemed
that there's always something that makes you go like really,
So to Diana's surprise, the initial response from law enforcement
was rather dismissive.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
You're kidding. So Misty wanted to start a new at
fourteen years old, let her go right, She wanted to
go missing.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
So the Pierce County Sheriff's office told her get a
load of this, hold on to your nips, told her
she would have to wait thirty days to report for
Misty missing, her fourteen year old. Now, obviously whoever that
was was wrong. Maybe they were new, maybe they were
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an intern, But this is the information that this poor
mother got. Like, I mean, obviously the situation is not funny,
but that is absolutely Lee obluit Chris, Oh my god.
So yeah, so they said, nope, you gotta wait thirty
days before we can see Diana was like, okay, before
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you can say that Misty is an actual missing person.
So anyway, so all right, So now we've got a
fourteen year old girl who's gone all night. Surely it's like, yeah,
this is an emergency. But in nineteen ninety two, it
was sadly a very common occurrence that police would assume
a teenager had simply run off, especially when there wasn't
immediate evidence of any kind of foul play. I'm thinking
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about those other girls from the mall. Maybe she went
to join up with that freak Houston.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Christmas time.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Horrible.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
That was a horrible case. They all are.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
They're all horrible. You got that, right, sister. So Misty
was a minor, but she had barely been missing for
twenty four hours, so in some of the eyes of
the officers, it looked like a possible runaway case and
not an abduction. Yeah, so let's just chill out right.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Everyone remained calm, so to see here.
Speaker 1 (48:06):
Diana was adamant though, that Misty would never run away,
especially without telling her, which doesn't make sense even if
she was.
Speaker 2 (48:14):
Like frantic and panic, right, but I agree, based off
what we're hearing about Misty.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
So she's saying something bad had to have happened, and
you know, she's thinking, like every hour that goes by
is worse, especially.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Like look at these circumstances, like not only based off
how Misty sounds, it doesn't sound likely, but like she
didn't have a way home, she was scrambling, she called
her mother. She like, there were so many things leading
off to this that it's like it was already on
its way and a developing situation. Clearly, she must have
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come into contact with somebody not good.
Speaker 1 (48:53):
Clearly, absolutely, So she pressed, you know, the police a
little harder to be like hello, oh, but they just
kept giving her like challenges. So Misty lived in unincorporated
span Away, which I'm not sure, I'm not sure what
that exactly means, but it's basically that, like that was
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Pierce County's jurisdiction. But she actually disappeared from downtown pu
Ya lap pull you up, and they had their own
city police, so it wasn't immediately clear which agency should
take charge. And if you remember, didn't we talk about
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this once where I was at your case match something
like that, pissing in the wind and such, where it
was like they came up with a new law that
was like, hey, everybody, we're gonna yes, you know.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
This is how we're gonna like differentiate. It was the
families or families it was the parents who like never
gave up, which is probably literally.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Lot of them. Yeah, I think this law came into
play after this, but I'm just saying, like, this is
the kind of shit that's why those laws are important,
Like you're not going to delay looking for people because
you're not sure.
Speaker 4 (50:13):
Whose job it is to do it exactly so anyway, correct,
So the Pula police, I think I'm pronouncing that different
every single time, whatever we all know, did take a report,
but they still lean toward the idea that Misty would
just turn up on her own.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Of course she's hiding in a field somewhere, like give
me a break.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
And the Sheriff's office in Pierce County they just flat
out refuse to investigate beyond saying, you know, hey, she's
a runaway. She's a runaway man and.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Even oh my god, I can't even if that was true.
She's a minor I know, like she is not safe
as a runaway, right, So, and if you think, if
you think she's a runaway, could we investigate why she
might be a runaway? What the hell's going on? She wasn't,
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but you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
I do, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
It drives in bonkers.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
So, feeling very alone in this search, Diana takes matters
into her own hands and she decides, because of what
happened on that phone call, she decides she's gonna contact
Ruben Schmidt oh yikes, and ask him if he knew
anything about Missy's whereabouts. So Ruben told Diana the same
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story that he would later tell the police, which is
Misty called him from the fair asking for a ride,
he didn't have gas, he never went to go get her,
and he claimed that that was the end of it. However,
Diana learned something that made her question Ruben's story a
little bit. His roommate mentioned that Ruben had left their
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place shortly after he got that phone call from Misty.
But on the night of the.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Seventeenth, Yes, that son of a bitch.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
And here we go get another very upstanding roommate friend
person who's.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Throwing him right under a bus, not protecting him.
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Right, but for the good of for the good of
all right. So if Reuben hadn't gone to pick her up,
like where did he go? Why did he leave? That's
a pretty big inconsistency that's now been planted. Sure, yeah, yeah,
just sure.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Because if you're leaving like that, even if it wasn't
for misty, tell the freaking police that you did that
and where the hell did you go.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
So the police didn't question him yet, I'm saying this
is what they will eventually, but I'm saying this is
what he was saying to the mom. And then she
found out later Oh yes, that's right that the roommate
went to the police to say, hey, wait a minute, hey,
So anyway, so there's some questions around him. Diana also
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gets in touch with the bus driver, and I mean,
you know, God loved this woman because she's doing what
the police aren't doing.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
Oh, she is exhausting her ass for her child.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
So she gets in touch with that bus driver who
had been on duty that first night, and the driver
recounted to her and later again to police basically what
happened and that brief interaction that he had with her
and he said, I remember suggesting an alternate route to her,
but then she kind of walked away pretty fast, seeming
pretty stressed out, just kind of like shutting down or whatever. So,
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like I said, that little interaction, as far as anybody knew,
was the last time that Misty was definitely seen by
an adult witness before she disappeared. All right, So, by
the end of that first day September eighteenth, Diana knew
that her daughter was in some sort of trouble, but
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like I said, she couldn't really get law enforcement to
treat it with any kind of urgency, which is just
bonkers to me. But she did keep trying to her credit,
which of course I mean obviously, but she reportedly filed
multiple missing persons reports within that first week, basically begging
for anybody to take action, and the case was eventually
assigned to police Sergeant Herm Carver, Hermi's boy.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
But he, oh my god, I was holding ice water
in my mouth and I couldn't make the joke myself.
Good workman.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
He still believed Misty was likely a runaway who would
come back in her own time. In those early weeks,
a couple of leads only reinforced this runaway theory. Two
of Misty's schoolmates, and it's important to make that distinction.
They weren't actually her friends, just schoolmates, came forward with
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claims that one of the girls, another Misty, Misty Matthews,
she received a phone call on September nineteenth from somebody
saying from somebody not Misty. So Misty the girl not missing,
received a phone call from someone else saying Misty was okay,
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but the girl who called was not Misty. If you're
following me, okay. Another classmate reported possibly seeing Misty around town,
just around town on September twenty. First these stories were
they were sketchy at best. So even I guess even
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the other Misty who received that call, she wasn't positive
what that call was all about.
Speaker 2 (55:46):
Which why are you saying this right? Why are you
wasting anybody?
Speaker 1 (55:51):
But you remember those mall girls and that chick who
started calling that family saying, hey, we're coming home on
the fort. Wasn't that something like that? I guess, hey
we're coming home on the bus tonight, and that kind
of stuff. Horrible.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
I who thinks this stuff up? Like are you sitting
in bed at night thinking how can I torture this
family who's already going through a terrible time. Yeah, let
me really play with their heads. I mean, it is
sick sick tickets.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
So they decided that Misty must have run off voluntarily
and was hiding out with some friends. So pretty shockingly,
based on these unverified reports, the police closed the missing
person's case just weeks after it was opened. Weeks and
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they even told local media that Misty had been found safe,
when in fact, she hadn't.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Where did that come from?
Speaker 1 (56:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
I feel so bad for her mother. What a nightmare. Already,
it's a nightmare, just like basic true facts, her daughter
is missing, but this all of this extra layered stuff
that didn't do anybody any f and fear no.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
So while police essentially had put the case on pause
for about a month, which meant like there was no
active investigation happening, Diana was out there handing up flyers,
handing out flyers and also hanging them up and chasing
down every rumor or you know, hearsay like whatever. So
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in the back of her mind she also had to
contend with this uncomfortable spotlight on herself because kind of
like what you said earlier, like, well, okay, so if
she quote unquote ran away, why did she?
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Right, Like, what would cause a child to do that?
What are the circumstances?
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Listen, we're not laughing at this at all. It's Italia's
fighting for her life over there because we were recording
really late. She can't she can't stop yawning.
Speaker 2 (58:04):
Just some one.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
So she's got this very uncomfortable spotlight on her. And
because of Diana's passed run in with the law over
welfare benefits and the fact that she So I didn't
tell you this, all right, because I didn't know. I
didn't know whatever. Okay, welfare fraud, no, no, no, no,
So because I told you how she had a problem
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with alcohol, right, do you right? She mistakenly reported Misty
missing once when she wasn't missing. So as you can see,
it's not good. That's not great. So I'm just saying, like,
obviously her history isn't fantastic with this kind of.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
Thing, right, which, if there were like four to five
instances of this happening, then I can see why they
would be cautious. But I do believe they should have
still investigated it. For there to have been only.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
The sorry.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
There to have been only one other episode of this,
and no, it doesn't paint Diana in a great lighter
at all.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
I mean, and Misty could have just been playing a
prank that time, like hiding in a room. I don't
know what the circumstance is. All I'm saying is she
called and said that she was missing, and she was
not missing. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
But they should have considered it and handled it with
like the same amount of dedication in seriousness if it
was anybody else who called in their missing child.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
So yeah, obviously there were some people who were wondering
if the mother had something to do with this disappearance,
and Diana was never found to be involved in any way,
it did kind of add insult to injury because if
you think about it, I mean, she's the one person
feverishly trying to find her daughter, and then she's kind
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of like being side eyed by these other people, like
you know, like she's iffy right when they should have
been the ones helping her. We're taking the lead, dare
I say, not even helping.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
And she's doing every single thing right.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
So finally, after weeks of dead ends, the authorities began
to come around a little bit because the people were
putting pressure on them, like are you gonna do anything?
So by late November of nineteen ninety two, the police
department reclassified Misty's case from a mere runaway to a
missing to a missing person under suspicious circumstances. So, in
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other words, they basically finally acknowledged that Misty might have
been the victim of foul play. And this was a
huge step in the case because it meant that they
were finally taking it seriously and they could actually allocate
resources to investigate what happened the night of the fair.
So Detective Jim Doan, he was a King County homicide
investigator who had taken an interest due to some similar
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cases in the area. He said later on that given
the facts, which is basically a young girl disappearing at
night with no other contact, you know, he said, quote unquote,
there is a high probability she is the victim of
foul play. Misty's mom had known that this was most
likely the case from day one, So, you know, I mean,
they're a little behind the eight ball. So now nineteen
(01:01:16):
ninety two turns.
Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Into nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
You for letting me do that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
That's my pleasure, thank you. So nineteen ninety three comes around,
Misty's fate is still a mystery, but her mother refuses
to let this case just slip away, so.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
It's consuming her as it should be.
Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Right. Yeah, she found a kind of unlikely ally in
a local citizen. So he was not a detective, he
was not a police officer. He was just a guy
named Corey Bober and he was in his thirties. He
was a resident of the town that I can't pronounce right,
(01:01:59):
and he had had a reputation for being a little
bit eccentric. So you have that in common.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
It sounds very nice.
Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Absolutely, some would say a little obsessive about solving crimes
or trying to solve them. So a local Nancy drew Right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
I loved those books as a kid, and I remember
in the nineties they came out with a show Wasn't
the Greatest, And I recognized that as a child, but
I freaking loved it.
Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Did you like Harriet the Spy as a kid?
Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
I feel like they talked about this, and that's what
I thought you said when we talked about it. I
loved it. That movie with Rosie o'donald.
Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
I know what you're talking about. But and did you
know she died?
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Now, my god, I thought you met Rosie O'Donnell the girl. Yes,
I saw that a couple of weeks ago on that
news thing that I've talked to you about the company.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's crazy, Michelle Trachtenberg. That's obviously tragic
on its own, But what's also crazy is that they
had just announced that Buffy is coming back. Oh I
didn't know, Like they are doing like not a reboot,
but a continuation, like with the same people is what
I'm saying. Not her well, right, so you know, like
(01:03:11):
Sarah Michelle geller At like they like signed on and stuff,
and now she is not alive. Like it's just crazy.
I don't know. But anyway, so yes, I just remembered
when you brought her up. But so anyway, this guy Corey,
he likes to try to solve cases. So he kind
of made himself kind of a pain in the ass
to law enforcement because he had a fixation on the
(01:03:34):
Green River killer case. And the Green River Killer was
a serial murderer targeting women in Washington in the nineteen eighties.
Corey had convinced himself that a man named Dan who
went by Randy. I can't even begin to pronounce his name.
(01:03:55):
His last name Archziger. Archziger is what I'm guessing was
the Green River Killer. And she was just like bombarding
police with these theories over and over. And I guess
he was wrong. Ps No, because Gary Ridgeway was identified
(01:04:18):
as the Green River Killer in two thousand and one.
But Corey never let go of his suspicion about the
other man.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
She just thought he would take that as you will.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Yeah, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Like another murderer, I should say, right.
Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
So, when Misty disappeared, Bober's attention was drawn to this
and he'd been cataloging local murders and missing people and
like looking for patterns, and he noticed something very interesting,
which is this town had seen the had seen unsolved
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murders of two other teenage girls in recent years, and
those cases had very similar things to Misty's situation. So
there was Kimberly DeLange and Anna chippit Noy. I don't
know what is going on with the with the name
the names. Yeah, but Kimberly was fifteen, Anna was fourteen,
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and they vanished in remote spots along Highway four ten,
which I guess is I mean, she was supposed to
have disappeared along the highway herself, and the timing of
those cases were exactly two years and one month apart.
So he was noticing that this pattern was still holding
(01:05:43):
because Misty went missing on September seventeenth, And to this guy,
it wasn't a coincidence, but rather a clear sign of
a serial killer at work, possibly the same one from
eighty eight and then ninety and then ninety two. That's
what he's say.
Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I mean, it could totally be a pattern. I suppose
this guy, Corey did for his job, Like that's a
lot of time to devote to all secs.
Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
So Bober says he tried to warn the police before
Misty vanished, and he said that he called a detective
in early September of nineteen ninety two to predict that
another girl was going to disappear near the fair and
end up along Highway for twelve quite specific. Yeh, I'll
say whether that warning ever actually reached the right person
(01:06:34):
is doubtful. Some officers denied that he even made that
call to begin with. And I mean that sounds pretty impressive.
If he predicted this happening, Oh exactly, you know, like
the specific Yeah, but and I mean again, like just
going back to this, imagine being Misty's mom, I mean,
your daughter's missing. Police haven't done a hell of a lot.
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Now this odd ball man is saying, hey, I'm pretty
sure she was murdered by a serial killer and left
in the wilderness. So, I know, crazy crazy. So he
did explain to Diana how Misty's's appearance lined up with
Kimberly and Anna's, and he suggested that they search Highway
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four ten because that's where the previous victims had been found. So,
desperate again for any lead, Diana agreed to let Bober help. Police,
for their part, did caution Diana not to get too
entangled with this man. They felt that Bober was unstable
and possibly just kind of looking for attention and to
(01:07:41):
chase out his own agenda and fantasy of this right. So,
but at the moment, Bober was one of the few
people who was even basically caring about the fact that
this girl was missing. So the first volunteer search was
led by him, Corey Bober. It took on November twenty eighth,
(01:08:01):
nineteen ninety two. Oh okay, So now we're back in
nineteen ninety two for a second. So Diana and about
twenty five people went through the area where Bober was
thinking was Highway four ten. So but unfortunately, I guess
they were actually at Highway four oh one, and he
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just messed up. I guess.
Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
So see, we all make mistakes.
Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Yes, you're correct.
Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
So, not surprisingly, they didn't find anything at Highway four
oh one. Then Bober did realize he made a mistake,
so he refocused his efforts, and in the meantime, the
police had finally acknowledged that Misty so ridiculous was probably
in danger.
Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Yes, yeah, I'd imagine right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
So now we are in February of nineteen ninety three.
Now this is when the second party, still led by
this man, goes out around now Highway for ten, and
I guess they were searching not far from the mud
Mountain dam. Sounds cozy to me, lots of beavers. So
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about a dozen searchers spread out through this dense brush
and muddy ditches. It had been a very wet winter,
so everything was very like soggy, soppy. Not long into
the searge, they spotted something, if you can believe it,
a bit of blue fabric poking out of the ditch,
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and a volunteer used a search hook to snag it,
and as he pulled it out, more fabric came up,
and it basically was a small bundle of clothes and
a blue sock tumbled out and in an instant Diana
said she recognized what they had out. So there covered
in mud were Misty's jeans, which actually were Diana's geens. Yeah,
(01:10:07):
good call those distinctive stonewashed jeans with the rolled cuffs
that she wore that she had worn to the fair
that night. Misty's underwear was also there, and one blue sock.
And first off, can we just keep in mind that
this man, this eccentric man, was the one that told
him to look their ps. No, so the jeans had
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been oddly rolled up together with the underwear and sock
tucked into them, almost as if someone tried to hide them.
Something that was not there was Misty's sweatshirt, her shoes,
and her other sock, so those were nowhere to be seen.
One of Misty's shoes may have been found later, but
from what I was reading, it's unclear if that was actual,
(01:10:51):
if it was confirmed that it was or not so.
But when Misty's mother saw her daughter's clothing pulled out
of that ditch, it was basically like, I mean, she
was completely distraught. Yeah, there's a quote here that says
she cracked in thirty million pieces, and that was from.
Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Bober upon seeing that.
Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Yes, so now obviously they're like, she's been a victim
of foul play. Right, so detective detectives rushed. You don't
hear that often detectives rushed to secure the scene. The
location is about twenty miles from where she disappeared, and
it was remote and wooded, and this is the kind
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of place you'd only search if you suspected a pattern.
Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Twenty miles and if she was on foot that night
trying to figure out a ride. It's like, did she
I assume not.
Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Walk walk twenty miles? I would assume not.
Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Right, So then obviously somebody must have picked.
Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Her up, that is the other assumption, and looks sick, right,
and credit where it's due. This man Bober, Oh, he's
on it. I mean his persistence.
Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Saved the day. Possibly well didn't save her, but at
least hopefully.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Get you right because I mean, those clothes could have
stayed out there forever exactly. So now the police are
fully engaged.
Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
They did all the work now on the scene.
Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
So they bring in some search dogs and some helicopters.
They use thermal imaging things to canvass the surrounding forest
for any signs of Misty's remains. But I don't understand
if she would obviously have been passed away, what thermal
imaging are they going to find.
Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
Very good point, Well, maybe they were thinking she was
still alive.
Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
But it specifically says here they were searching for her remains.
So they scoured the area and a few days later
they actually did find some bones, but it turns out
they were from an animal and not a human. So
forensic examination of Misty's recovered clothing yielded some information, but
it was pretty limited. The jeans and the undergarments had
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no visible blood or seam on them, which could mean
a few things. Either there was no violence that happened
at that time when the clothes were removed, or environmental
exposure had washed away evidence. Now, something that was interesting though,
was investigators did find paint chips on the genes. They
were like three tiny chips of automotive style paint that
(01:13:22):
potentially could link to a vehicle or location. But frustratingly,
these paint chips were lost before before they could be
analyzed or matched to anything.
Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Oh fascinated.
Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Yeah, two weeks after the genes were found, Now we're
at February nineteen ninety three. Searchers discovers.
Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Stuff beyond me. It's not you. I'm very supped into
the case. I swear i am.
Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Searchers discovered more of Misty's personal items in the same generality.
So they found a plastic hair pick.
Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Oh gosh, back in the day.
Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Those are those like long ones that would go in
and up.
Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
And a toothbrush that Diana said was Misty's. I mean
that must be a specific toothbrush, but hey whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Well, and why would she have had that with her
that night?
Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Do you remember those toothbrushes that used to play music
when you would.
Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Never Yeah, like the Little Mermaid?
Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Yeah, like you could listen to it through your teeth. No,
I'm serious. And it was like on a timer, so
you know, kids would know how long to brush those
little chumpers for. I don't think they still have them,
but who the hell knows?
Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
I have no memory of that. Which did you have?
Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
I didn't have one? Oh yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
You want one?
Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Maybe if it played like Hannah Montana's the Best of
Both Worlds? What a bop? So anyway, the toothbrush and
the comb, they were about a half a mile away
from where the jeans had been tossed off the road,
So I guess. Missy's mom said that mister used to
carry those in a small black purse, along with an
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electronic organizer with all of her friend's phone numbers, but
the purse itself was not recovered, suggesting that whoever took
Misty might have dumped its contents while moving along the highway,
you know, like a little bit of here, a little
bit there. Right. So now, the detectives Jim Doyon. He
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was from King County. He had been the one tracking
Kimberly and Anna's murders. He was the one who suspected
that there was a link, except no, because the other
guy did. But false. There was another detective who joined in,
and they actually worked directly with Corey Bober for a
short time, chasing down Bober's many theories includes around the woods.
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So for Diana, of course, this is like a double
edged sword, because you're finding these clothes crushed, any kind
of remaining hope that her daughter was just out there.
And Okay, but now at least the police were actually
doing something, so it's like, you know, at.
Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Least got some pep in their step. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
And of course, by this point, obviously the police were like,
we're pretty sure she's deceased. One of the detectives told
the press in nineteen ninety six that quote unquote, given
the circumstances, the timing and location of her disappearance, there's
a high probability she is the victim of foul play.
Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Yeah, yeah, right daily.
Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
So in other words, Misty had been murdered. Was basically
the operating theory happening here. Misty's belongings retrieved at such
a remote site, the big question became, who the hell
put them there? Were they the same person responsible for
Kimberly and Anna? The investigators at this point had a
lot of catching up to do. Yeah, ah, Crucial months
(01:17:20):
had been lost early on, yeah ah, and the potential
evidence or witnesses their memories had faded by that point. Yeah.
But nonetheless, the case started to take shape around a
few people of interest. So who do you think first
is on the list?
Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Ruben?
Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Yes, Schmitty's boy. So if we remember, he was the
eighteen year old friend right?
Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Who right?
Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
So Reuben was the last known person Misty reached out
to for help that night, aside from her mother. Naturally,
he was scrutinized pretty closely when police find when they
interviewed him five months later. And yes, it did take
five months to get a formal interview of him. Ruben
stuck to his story. He said, Misty called, He said,
(01:18:12):
I got no gas. He did not go to see
her that night. However, under deeper questioning, Rubin added some
bizarre new details. So Trina, the girl at the carnival,
she revealed that Misty had actually called Reuben not once,
but two times that evening, once to ask for a ride,
(01:18:38):
and the second time to implore him because she was, like,
I guess she really she knew she needed to get home,
so she was basically trying to convince him to go
to her house. First, go into her house, she was
telling him where to find money so that he could
then buy gas to come and pick her up. And
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Rubin did admit this was true that Misty basically begged
him too, but he claims that he still refused, saying
that he didn't even have enough gas to get to
her house, which was about six miles from his house.
So after the second call, Ruben said that Misty got
angry at him and then hung up. So Rubin claimed
(01:19:21):
that sometime after those calls. This is weird, he quote
unquote blacked out once again. Just to give a commentary. Here,
tell you, tell you is I will give her this.
(01:19:41):
She's watching me intently tell this story. She just laid
her mic down on her lap and the world be damned.
Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
Like now listen she I mean he no.
Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Way he blacked out.
Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
But from drinking from No.
Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
He just said blacked out. He said he had a
history of unexplained blackouts. Shut the hell up since childhood,
according to him. He told the detectives he honestly couldn't
remember anything from later that night.
Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Well, isn't that convenient?
Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
It says if he went blank after nine pm and
woke up the next morning not knowing what he might
have done.
Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
That's really scary.
Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
I know, it just happened to my head, like that's
that's bananas.
Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
The a naf I just said banans. I just telled bananas.
Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Well it is banans.
Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
That's wild.
Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Yeah, I know, even more unsettling, if you can believe it.
Ruben somehow ended up at his grandmother's farm the next morning.
That farm is roughly eight miles from where these genes
were found along Highway four ten. Ruben said he had
no idea how he got there.
Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
He had no gas money, remember he had none, but
he drove himself nonezo and nobody was home at the
farm when he arrived. Apparently. Now how he knows this part,
I don't know. But investigators asked the obvious. Do you
think it's possible that you might have picked up Misty
during this blackout and I don't know, maybe harmed her
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without remembering? Ruben's answer was the following, I don't know.
I mean, can you believe this?
Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
I can't. He's not doing a damn thing to help himself.
Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Well, no, that's correct. He insisted that if it happened,
that it was not intentional.
Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
He's just laying the groundwork for yes, I did something.
Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
To her, and that he could not hurt her and
he couldn't touch a dead body if something bad did occur,
so very bizarre.
Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
He does not sound like a reputable individual, and what
he's saying isn't even really helping himself.
Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
No, he agreed to take a polygraph, but results were inconclusive.
The person giving the polygraph test, though, did think he
was not being entirely truthful. And I guess there was
this trick that he was trying to implore, which actually
you're trying to as well right now, where he was
putting himself to sleep, because I guess if you are
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in a state of semi consciousness with your heart rate
down and everything, it makes it it makes the test
sound more truthful. So he was literally trying to fall
asleep while being questioned.
Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
And no one decided to stop the test.
Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
I don't think. So they're pushing through, just like I'm
pushing through right with you.
Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
My eyes feel like there is lead them.
Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Over the past twenty minutes, I've seen you degenerate. I
feel it from a semi lucid person to be big
time on the struggle bus.
Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
I'm up right, I want to idea. I just want
to you are and like pull this blanket up farther,
and I think the minute that I do it, it's over.
I'm going to be good.
Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Yeah, you're being a very good sport.
Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Thank you. It's a very interesting case.
Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
You said so. Later on, Ruben blurted out something extremely again,
another extremely suspicious thing, to a coworker at a restaurant
where he worked. During a conversation about Missy's case. Rubin
claimed to know exactly where Misty's body was, saying that
it was on his grandmother's farm. So this got back
to police, of course, and when they hauled Reuben in
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to explain, he backpedaled a little bit and he said
he only made those comments to get his boss off
his back.
Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
How how would those comments, of all comments help in.
Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
That way, basically in an attention seeking lie, like.
Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Look what I'm going through kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Or look what I can do. I don't know, I
don't know. So given all this, he's like the closest
thing to the prime suspect in Misty's disappearance. In fact,
as recently as two thousand and seven. It recently as
in twenty seventeen, police social media post basically called him
out as the prime suspect who was just never charged.
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Over the years, Rubin had run ins with the law.
He had a rape accusation by another teen girl in
nineteen ninety six, but that was dropped a thereft threft
arrest threft a theft arrest in two thousand and then
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domestic issues later, which keeps him on the radar.
Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
I was gonna say, he is definitely having some struggles
that are not going away. Yes, all cut from the
same cloth.
Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Right, But despite all this odd behavior and statements, there's
no physical evidence ever tying him to the crime. So
there is another person that was a suspect. Now you
remember her original friend who she went to the carnival with, Trista,
No Trina Trina, she had a quote unquote secret boyfriend
(01:25:35):
at fourteen.
Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
At fourteen, what was he twenty five?
Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
Close? His name was Michael and he was twenty three.
Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Oh my god, what are the Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Yeah, I'm not sure. So for a long time, Misty's
friend Trina had not been fully truthful about her own
movements that night. Initially, Trina said she started walking home
and that was that right, But months later, under fresh
questioning by one of the detectives, Trina confessed that she
did not actually walk the whole way home. The truth
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was that she had a much older boyfriend, Michael, who
picked her up near the fairgrounds shortly after she and
Misty parted. So Trina was fourteen Michael was twenty three.
Their relationship with something that had been hidden from her
parents and her friends, and Trina said that before she left,
she offered Misty a ride with them, but Misty declined
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because she didn't trust Michael, so Trina left with Michael,
and according to her, she told Michael that Misty would
catch the bus and be fine. Michael dropped Trina off
at her house and then went on his way. But
once police learned about Michael, they had to consider him
as a suspect because the question was could he have
returned after dropping Trina off and found Misty still stranded? Right, absolutely,
(01:26:58):
because this guy had a trouble passed as a teenager.
At sixteen, he was accused of abducting and sexually assaulting
an eleven year old at knife point, so he was
never convicted because charges were not filed, but the allegations
showed a propensity for violence, so if anyone at the
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fairgrounds that night had some bad intentions, he certainly fit
the bill. FBI analysts looked for forensic links between Michael's
vehicle and they recovered evidence, but they found nothing, no fibers,
no DNA, nothing to tie him to Misty. He also
took a polygraph test and he passed, indicating that he
was likely telling the truth about not seeing Misty after
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that night. So ultimately law enforcement ruled Michael out as
the one that took Misty. Of course, was it just
a stranger?
Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Well, yeah, I guess, I mean that's certainly plausible. Was
it that serial killer, the Green River serial killer who
was doing stuff? Potentially once again, like who knows? Some
people even suspected Corey Bober himself because was he this
crusader or why did he know all this stuff? Shaw me,
(01:28:17):
although he was trying to shop people all the time. Actually,
I don't want they didn't want to listen to him.
Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
I don't have a bad feeling about him. I mean,
I don't know who the hell is responsible, but I
didn't necessarily get.
Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
About Yeah, and I mean detectives never actually named him
as a serious suspect whatsoever. So I'm just trying to
look up any anything like later. So yeah, so one
thing positive came in twenty two thousand and nine. In
two thousand and nine, they reopened and re examined Misty's
(01:28:52):
case with fresh eyes, and there was like a whole
brand new team of detectives now obviously on the case.
And what they found was like that this case was
a mess, you know, like decades old documents. They were
in disarray thorough right. Some things were missing, misfiled. So
they basically spent two years reorganizing and reviewing every single detail.
(01:29:17):
They reinterviewed the witnesses again, and the suspects, they even
you know, they talked to Ruben, they talked to Michael,
they talked to Trina, and they sent Misty's genes for
updated DNA testing because if you remember, back in nineteen
ninety three, the DNA profiling was limited. Yes I'm limited,
(01:29:39):
which I don't think you know that song, but it's
from Wicked. So technology had advanced though by two thousand
and nine, and the lab actually managed to detect male
DNA on Misty's genes that did not belong to any
of her known friends or family. So, but it was
not Ruben's, was not Michaels.
Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Also stranger danger.
Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Right, I mean the daytime Talio would have asked that
right away the nighttime. Talia doesn't give a shit.
Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I don't have it in me.
Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
I know you don't, which this is kind of nice
to be honest, Like if I could find a happy
medium to just being you. You're you're tranquilized just enough,
but you're still tranquilized. You're you're still with it just
enough to sort of answer me when I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Sharp enough, but I'm not intrusive.
Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
You're not bullying your way into my into my story.
We are actually really close to the end now.
Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
So at the end of the day, literally at the
end of this day, this is still a cold case,
right It's never been solved, But basically the detectives made
a promise to I guess, Misty's mother that it will
remain open and not just fade into obscurity unsolved.
Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
That poor woman, you know, she has never been the
same again, will never be the same again, blames herself.
Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
I'm sure I can imagine, I guess. In twenty seventeen,
it was the twenty fifth anniversary of her disappearance, so
the police department used their official Facebook and Twitter accounts
to narrate Misty's story in first person, as if Misty
herself were telling it. That's a nice touch, and it
basically is saying, like to everybody, hey, like you know,
(01:31:32):
I'm Misty, I'm missing. I need your help, like that
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
They did, like the agent hat, the agent hat. They
did the age enhancement on that.
Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
I assume yes, they did the age progression image showing
Misty in her mid forties.
Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
So obviously that's a very haunting picture because we never
know Misty got to that age. So Misty's mom, Diana,
continues to fight for answers year after year. She's given
countless interviews. She's always sharing Misty's story with anyone who
will listen, and over time, Diana became vocal about the
(01:32:15):
mistakes in the investigation, advocating for better training on missing
children cases, especially the police immediately treating in dangered teens
as missing people rather than runaways. So to wrap this up,
because you can barely handle what's happening here, if anybody
(01:32:41):
listening has any information on the disappearance of Misty, no
matter how small, please contact the yallop pu y A
l l U P P yallop I think police Department
(01:33:01):
because her family and this community have waited over three
decades for answers and even the smallest clue could help
make a difference.
Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
It's so heartbreaking for this family, and I just feel
so bad for Diana. The story breaks my heart, the
impact that it's had on her, On Diana and the
rest of her family. I just hope whatever happened to
Misty she was not in any pain, and if she was,
it wasn't prolonged. But I can't fathom she's still alive.
Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
No, I would think not no, So yeah, I don't know.
But that's the disappearance of Misty. And if she is
no longer with us, which I believe is probably the case,
then may she be resting in peace. Absolutely, And thank
you for staying with us.
Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
You're welcome entire time.
Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
You're like you're drugged.
Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
My eyes are so I can see him.
Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
So we've never ever recorded this late. Never. We normally
record about twelve hours.
Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Before this, and I see why that is.
Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
So all right, it's been, it's been something.
Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
It has so been nice, good job.
Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
So all right, Well we will catch everybody in the
next episode. Thank you for staying with us, with us,
Thank you for staying with us and as always, stay
safe and stayed chill.
Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Good night everybody, Good night everyone.
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