#8: Honeymoon Over in SD? Iloski Out, TFC Blanks SDFC 1-0

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Iloski

• Milan Iloski is gone just like that
• What has Tony heard around the club for their side of the story?
• What Tyler Heaps had to say
• Empirical evidence this was not anticipated: Iloski appearance at 18 Threads the week prior, Iloski jerseys prominently displayed the weekend prior! 
• Now there’s a #9-sized hole in the SDFC attack

Toronto FC 1 SDFC 0

• What a time to play a disconnected game and lose to a bottom-tier side
• Negri’s penalty was earned and partially caused by poor pass-back play to set it up
• Mighten and Angel were non-factors, mostly the same for Dreyer
• Chucky injected life into the attack
• It *was* a handball but they didn’t review it because Chucky was way offsides
• Varas: TFC was man-marking and adding +1 to the back line and –1 to the front line, onus on center backs to carry some offense forward, didn’t happen

Tyler Heaps–incoming transfer window

• No second DP
• He’s telling us to wait and see, what will we see?
• New loan in: Aiden Harangi

Voice of the Supporters

• Wait, another supporters fight? In the section after the match?
• Frontera SD getting a *terrible* reputation in a hurry

Look ahead: Vancouver on Saturday

• All is forgiven with a win here?
• Can Chucky start/play 90
• Bombino as important?
• Vancouver has 2 wins and 2 losses since last meeting
• Everyone is back from the Gold Cup. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Welcome to the Chromaniacs, everybody your weekly look inside.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
San Diego FC and MLS.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
My name is Craig Elston, joined as always by Tony
Sanchez from San Diego Puttu Football and Alex Mana from
the Chromatic FC sub stack.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Tony, what's happening brother?

Speaker 3 (00:48):
It is an interesting day today, a lot of San
Diego FC news to talk about, especially a loss. You're
at home and what went into that? Interesting times here
at Snaptrack and Stadium. We've got some cool audio coming
up from GM Tyler Heats and you know, we'll take me.
Everybody's take a temp check for everybody who's fall into

(01:11):
San Diego FC.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Alex who needs Milana Laski? Oh wait, wait us, we do?

Speaker 5 (01:19):
We need that guy? But happy to join you, gentlemen.
I'm all fired up. I'm ready for some mo takes.
I'm ready for everything we have to going here.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, let's get it rolling.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
First off, thank you everybody who has found our show,
episode eight on the regular show. We're doing postmatch shows
now as well. We did one after Chicago fire. This
counts as our postmatch show for Toronto FC because the
game happened last night and here we are Thursday, July
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us on ig The Chromaniacs. Okay, we started this show
and for the last few weeks SDFC has been in

(02:36):
their honeymoon pace, winning all the time, glorious moments, a
local newcomer who blossoms into a star in front of
our eyes. We've talked about it as a honeymoon. I've
used a phrase as well on the show that is
common in poker terminology, which is a sun run. A

(02:59):
sunrun is when everything's going right. I mean, every time
you look down, the cards are perfect every time you
put chips in the plot, the board matches what's in
your hand. Every time you make a big move and
you're wrong, something bails you out. Every time you make
a big move and you're right, no bad luck happens.

(03:20):
It's a sun run. It's an absolute sun run. So
I am here to say, with all the love in
my heart for San Diego FC, that the honeymoon is
over and that the sun run has come to an
end for San Diego FC. Not that Saturday can't be
another beautiful night of football at Snapdragon Stadium, but the

(03:42):
honeymoon is over, guys a Lawski, the failure to get
this done, a dispiriting one nothing loss to follow to
one of the lesser teams in the league, Questions for
what's gonna happen in the next few weeks. Not to
say that the season's over. We're just that that beautiful,
glorious sun run.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now we're back to reality.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Now. Yeah, it's it's I mean, I was, I was
there from kind of like the beginning of the funk
of the feeling for everything San Diego FC. Just with
the announcement of Milanailowski like prompted a mid lunch break
car truck inside emergency pod out of us with Abe

(04:27):
and I just what the hell, And I mean not
even necessarily like what the hell? I mean there was
literally me yesterday before saying, you know what, all the
signs with the sources that I've spoken to, the signs
look positive that there it's trending in a right way,
and it seemed like it's actually it was in a

(04:49):
different spot and we'll get into a little bit more,
but I mean, it's it was just a funky day
in San Diego FC land yesterday for sure.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah, just going back to yesterday, this is the first
time they've lost back to back home games in their history,
and yeah, it does feel like there's a little bit
of fun with this team right now.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
They're in it.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
They have to do something to kind of, you know,
right the wrongs, you know, reverse the funk and really,
you know, turn this thing around. There's still plenty of
football left, lots of season left, so yeah, hopefully we
start to turn this around. And you're gonna have to
do it pretty soon. With another match against the Vancouver

(05:41):
white Caps on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
We're gonna get into the Toronto match. We're gonna get
into the Vancouver match. We're gonna get into some of
the stuff that happened last night after the match, but
we're starting with a laws sky because our most listened
to program for Chromatics history so far in our very
young history, is the one titled Milanalaski is the best
player in SDFC history. This is a kid who showed up,

(06:07):
scored ten goals in fourteen matches, finally got a chance
to start, and put together in his first start, the
greatest performance in the history of this franchise. One that
is their sporting director Tyler Heap said, yesterday may never
be duplicated again. For all we know, no one will
ever have a four goal match again in SDFC history.

(06:30):
He scored them in a period of twelve minutes of gameplay.
It was truly remarkable. It was like a Superman debut,
you know. And to go from that and furthermore a
team that it showed up with a promising attack, with
this new look to them, and we said the very

(06:54):
first couple episodes of this show, like, well, what are
the issues for SDFC Number nine central striker. That's the
one thing we don't have. That's the one thing we
need to look for. Well, they found him, and he
was a kid from Escondido and every single time he
came on the pitch he impacted the match positively dominantly

(07:17):
in many cases. So we're going to get into all
of it. The narrative that is around this is pretty straightforward.
The narrative around this is that Milan Alaski asked for
the sun, moon and stars from San Diego FC and
asked for a price that was way way beyond what

(07:42):
they were comfortable or willing to pay to keep him around.
We'll hear sporting director Tyler Heaves say words to those effects.
But Tony, I know you've been digging around and you
were at the snap and the one guy we're not
gonna hear from is Milan. I don't think we've we've
not heard any counter to this narrative. So should we

(08:04):
just all accept that this was a deal that would
have been done but Milan asked for too much?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, so that's something that both parties wanted to wanted
this deal to happen. Unprinciple, right, it just made too
much sense to to not want to say, let's sit
down have these negotiations.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
But it just ended up being the number right.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
In no way is this between San Diego f C
and FC Norseland we had.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Those questions of like, well, who's who's the bigger sibling?

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Well, who's who We're going to really see where the
where the rubber reads the road here. But this particular situation,
it's not either negotiation breakdown from the clubs. This is
a negotiations between player and San Diego FC and not
necessarily seeing the long term value in the INNI Lusky

(08:57):
as a player based upon just the fact that they
know what Milanoski has been carrying, right, They've been following
him within the Right to Dream model for a year
and some change before then. I know for a fact
that there was eyes on him on Orange County FC,
you know the USL Championship side that was very prominent

(09:17):
here in San Diego. San Diego Loyal faced Milanoski and
guess what he loves scoring against San Diego Loyal. So
if you've been following his story and his trajectory, you
know that Iloski has already had the rumblings of making
an impact here in San Diego. But the number just
didn't seem to be right. I did also and through
a couple of sources, did hear though that the original

(09:41):
end date for the contract was on the fifteenth, as
opposed to the end of July, So that you know,
in of itself, what we've heard publicly is that you
know it was the end of July.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
We've heard that from the club.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Now, when having this situation of like, well, why did
they let him go?

Speaker 2 (10:02):
They had three more games in July.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Why why even on a on a strategic standpoint, you
wouldn't even say let's keep him on the bench because
guess what, Toronto came in yesterday and I bet you
they've been training to stop a Milani Loski. They've been
training specifically for that, and now he's not going to
be there.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
He's on the bench. Ooh, what does this mean? Am
I go?

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I have to deal with second half of Loski? That's
even worse. But just to not have him there that
raised flags. But I think that does then make sense
that there was a hard deadline on that day.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
If if something was to happen, he stays.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
If not, he walks back to Epstein Northland, back to
a sibling club, back to where they start their season
in Europe. In five days, so are you really setting
up this player for success in the long term? Is
this something that is gonna beneficial for the player? Not
too sure, but I mean there's there's a lot of
nuance here, and you know, I know there were various

(10:59):
slates for you, Lowsky, to actually make us a statement
come on a different types of things.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
We've reached out as well.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
After after yesterday in the midday, those talks have ceased
and there's been recommendations to not do that.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
So there we go.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
M Well, that's disappointing.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
It was a disappointing day just to hear Alaska going
back to norseland he was a great player here.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
And you know, when when.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
The comments come out about Tyler Heaps and what he
had to say because he also mentioned a loan extension,
I brought that up, you know, weeks ago that maybe
there's two ways you could probably do this deal. You
either get a deal done and he stays here permanently,
or you get a loan extension. And that for a

(11:52):
team trying to win, you know, a trophy in their
first year, I thought that was a pretty good solution.
But for the player, if if this is the route
that he wants to go that he thinks that he's
going to turn twenty six at the end of this month,
and he feels like, this is going to be my
shot in making it in Europe and playing a couple

(12:15):
of years, you know, a few more years here in Europe,
then you know, all to them, you know that that's
something that every a lot of players on the on
this roster would love to do, right, especially the younger guys,
They want to go and play in Europe. But on
the on the flip side, it would have been great
if he would have gotten his minutes here. A player

(12:37):
that I kind of compare him to is a guy
we'll see in UH in Vancouver, Brian White. Brian White
very similar to Lasky. He played his his UH his
games in USL for the Red Bulls and it wasn't
until you know, he got those minutes he developed. But
then when he came over to Vancouver where he really

(12:58):
shot up. And he right now, in five seasons with
Vancouver he has over fifty six goals.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
And I felt like that could have been his way
of really making it.

Speaker 5 (13:09):
But if he thinks he has another plan for his career,
he wants to be in Europe, and he wants to
develop as a player.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
You know his way then you know that's uh, you know,
that's his prerogative. He do what he wants, but.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Little disappointing for the fan, for the especially for the team.
And now it's going to be on Tarler Heaps. He
really has to bring somebody in for that ninth spot
and he's got other spots to worry about, and all
the focus is now on him. What's your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean, really quickly, Craig. Four players have come out
of San Diego FC. One eighteen year old loan.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
Has come in in the last couple of weeks. Just right.
It's a talent rain that's happening right now. However, part
of that is of course by design.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Right For example, Laffelsend, Lafflsond leaves Laffelson wasn't playing. He
started it right back on the first ever match for
San Diego FC. We barely saw him after that. He
was rarely even being subbed in. And you played a
clip for us Tony before we came on, Tyler Heaps.
We might well hear it a little bit later in

(14:24):
the show. But basically Laffelson had been asking to go
home for a while so each one of these things
can be individually defended, and the longer and the more
I hear about the Alasky situation, the more I can
defend San Diego FC's perspective. However, they also might have

(14:48):
cocked it up, and I don't think that it's fair
to the SDFC fan, which is what this show is for.
This show is not for the front office of San
Diego FC. It's for the fans of San Diego FC. Okay,
we love every single one of you in the front
office that watches or listens, but that's We're not here

(15:10):
for you. That's what the official podcast that you pay
someone for is for the people that you give money
to and you yell at and you say say this,
don't say that that's what that's for.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
This is for the fans.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
This is an independent show, and I am not going
to dismiss out of hand that this was cocked up
at some level. I think the empirical evidence is clear.
Eloski appearing at the Team store within seven days of
him disappearing from the country, eloski jerseys being in like

(15:44):
the most single prominent display spot in the Team store
forty eight hours before he disappears from the country. Okay,
all of this is indicative of a team that had
every intention to keep Milan Alaski. And while it may
be true, it may be true that Alaski had his

(16:07):
own personal son run, had the greatest five game stretch
of what his career will ever be, did it in
an STFC uniform and try to get paid off that.
Who could blame him for trying to get paid off
of that? Because who's to say that if they didn't

(16:28):
lose him and started him the rest of the year,
that Aloski doesn't score twenty goals for San Diego FC
this season. What I do know for sure? And look
at that July eighth, Alaski had eighteen threads. July fifteenth,
Alaski on a plane to Copenhagen, right like seems odd.

(16:53):
Seems odd to me, And I can feel for Tyler
he I can imagine that his story might be completely
one billion percent true. I can put this all on
a Losky maybe, but I don't think we should just
automatically suck that down and gulp and swallow and say, Okay,

(17:17):
something screwed up somewhere along the way for this to
have happened.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
And and I guess it comes down to the club itself,
right like, and then they'll turn to you and say, well,
what have you been asking? We've been transparent this whole time,
this entire time. We've told you from the get go.
And I truly believe that when I asked Mikeybadas, hey
do you have Milanowski in your plans? I believe that

(17:44):
was in a two to one game where he came
up and was in a way matches. Yeah, he's yeah,
I have him in my plans. As in nudge nudge,
wink wink, Tyler, let's get this done fast forward. Then
he goes on the greatest runt of all time here
and then questions like hey, a benign question that Schiva
asked of Hey, Milanloski's not playing here any what is he? Oh,

(18:09):
it's because not because he's we're resting him, not because
of this, No, we play players are going to be
here the rest of the season, point blank. So they've
been pretty honest about it. They really haven't hit it.
But again that that just to give an example, and hey,
you know, I'll point to not necessarily people in front
office ever, but just like it's funny, just like how

(18:29):
these things happen? Right the fifteenth there was, Hey, let's
get him on the on the Toyota truck with Chris Bmicvay,
and let's put it out because we know he's not
going to come back, so we got to get this
package out before it's becomes absolutely, you know, useless for us.
So check that out, I guess, but you know that's
the last you will see of a Milaneloski and San

(18:52):
Diego is in a passenger of a Toyota four owner
probably getting driven to Limberg right there, Like yeah, right,
by the way, did you pack?

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Yeah, you have luggage ready for this trip because you're
not coming back.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Like again, like it's and it's a lesson too. Man.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
At the end of the day, I do hear a
lot of people and now I don't know what your
guys takes is on this like other people who are like, guys,
this is why we don't get fall in love with
loan players. This is the nature of lone players. This
is the nature of soccer, is the nature of this
type of business. This is the nature. Like it's on
you for falling in love with Milanilowsky.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Okay, yeah, I wonder because it was also reported by
like Tom Boger, who covers this league is the.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Big insider in MLS.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
You know, they were far apart in wages and and
this is a.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
Salary cap league. I just wonder what deals have been made.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
By Tyler Heaps already that prevented this deal, this Elaski deal,
from happening. And because he was part of a calculation, right,
he was part of like if we pay him this,
I can give these other guys what they want and
it's all gonna work out. But if Alaski wanted a
little bit more, then he keeps would have to go

(20:28):
back to the drawing board and ask those other guys like, hey,
can we bring that little salary down a little bit?
And they probably that's I probably said no. Alaski probably
said no, And then he has this big blow up
in his space, and now you're looking for another striker, right.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
And that's the bottom line. I'm not here, And if
you heard the last comment I made, honestly, I'm not
here to like blame SDFC. I'm just saying something happened
here that in the span of one week, Una Semana
took us from a guy who is appearing at the

(21:07):
team store telling people I love it here. I never
want to leave. I want to be here the rest
of my life. This is my favorite time playing soccer.
I mean I've seen people in the locals discord and
the riptites discord, like who went to get his autograph
getting you know, telling us these stories like he's saying it.

(21:27):
We saw, we saw the club bring his whole family
to a watch party to scan them through on social media.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
You know, the nightmare Milanalasky, right, you know, like the
whole thing.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
They were hyping this dude up for great reason, for
great reason. He was kicking ass Escondido bring it. And
now my lament Tyler might be one. Like I said earlier,
one thousand percent correct, Alaski might be a thousand percent
wrong in what he offered. He may look back three

(22:02):
months from now in dismay after not getting picked.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Up by Berussia Dortmund.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
You know, you're not getting picked up by by some
team in Italy or something, and going gosh, darn it.
I was at home. Everyone loved me. I was killing it.
Now I'm stuck. Now I can't play. Now I'm not
getting what I want. He might regret this whole thing.
We might get a story six seven months from now

(22:30):
about Elawski's lament. It's my fault I should have you know,
da da da da da. But nonetheless, now here's the reality, SDFC,
all those wins, all those points banked, that's over there.
The future is in front of us, and the and SDFC.

(22:51):
I was trying to give us a nickname right there,
the Los Gramados, the flow Riders.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, they don't have a they don't have a striker.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
They don't have a striker, and they don't have a
real in house option for a striker.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
So it's either.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Go fix this somewhere or we're gonna live with it.
Kind of feels Podres esque like are we gonna get
a better catcher or are we just gonna sit here
and live with this and not get to where we
want to get without a better striker.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
SDFC is not lifting a trophy this year. Deep sigh.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
There you mentioned the Padres just as a as a
San Diegan and a witness of things.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Again, this is all solid wood.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Can you imagine in a couple of months slash year one,
Milanilowski returning north of San Diue County and in good
San Diego sports fashion have the absolute crap beat out
of by one La Galaxy slash LAFC Milaniloski.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, I could see it happened this year. Yeah, wouldn't
that be something that'd be gross.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
It's just like you really just thought about that to
be like that. You you played that out in your
mind too. I bet you saw him lifting a cup?

Speaker 5 (24:17):
No, yeah, they they if that happens, if if yeah,
then the whole idea of what we just talked about,
of him returning to Europe and getting those minutes and
trying to get you know, something going there, then that
was all for nothing.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
And it's like, oh, he just wanted to get paid.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
So is this another another lesson for everybody too? Then,
like much like the soccer, Hey, this is alone, this
is what happens. Is this what rights a dream? And
SDFC is going to look like moving forward? Hey, guys,
just don't fall in love with any players because they're
going to be expendable. They're gonna be an Excel spreadsheet
on on on. Tyler heats's moneyball, heaps ball, and so
next next man up is literally next man up some

(25:00):
times young man and younger and younger and younger man up,
and we're gonna eventually get to I mean again, this
back line, the average of this back line are is
almost going to be in diapers here very very closely.
But is this gonna be something that moving forward? San
DIEGOEFCI right now is two things. A very young squad

(25:20):
of kids that is doing incredibly well in prodigies along
with a national team player rehabs facility, and you're just
marrying that and these two things are working in MLS
so far, But is that just gonna be how it's
going to be moving forward, Like don't don't buy a
jersey because you never know, like you might just have

(25:41):
that be gone in six six months.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
That's so fascinating, Alex.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I want to I want to build off what Tony
just said right there to you, because Okay, this is
again taking like soccer stuff and putting it into just
San Diego sports fan general stuff.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
But like I've heard.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
People co SDFC in a hopeful way to IAX the
number one selling club in Europe. Try to square that
with being a Padres fan where they signed guys to
ten and fifteen and fourteen year contracts and say well, man,

(26:20):
he's gonna be here until two thousand and thirty three.
S Andrew's gonna be here till two thousand and thirty three,
Nando's gonna be here till two thousand and thirty four.
It's it's a different style, and it's one that's gonna
take some getting used to. If we're gonna celebrate almost
more athletics style, the production, not the player.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah, that's that's absolutely right.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Craig I always wondered if aj Prowler would be perfect
for this job because he can find young talent anywhere,
and that's what you want, right, It's just like turning
them out. Oh they played here for a couple of years,
and then you sell them, and you want to know,
the cherry on top of that is that MLS incentivizes

(27:09):
selling players. So if they come up in your system
and then you sell them outside of MLS, you get
more gam you get more generalized at general allocated money
out of that. So they centivize you doing that, and
they centivize you developing young players. They incentivize you being

(27:33):
an under twenty two roster construction profile.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
That's that's kind of what they wanted.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
They want homegrown talent to develop here and then you know,
you ship them off hopefully they get to Europe. And
then you know that means that player can you know,
keep developing and keep growing and you know that that
that type of you know, type of marketing. Right what
we see at a like a Ricardo Bepy, Right, he

(28:02):
went to Europe and they want more of that. They
want to they want to see you get to that level.
And yeah, don't I would highly suggest to fall along
with these guys, because yeah, we're gonna We're gonna be
essentially a part farm system for all the other clubs
outside of the US.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Oh my god, Craig, do you think this is the trajectory?
I mean, do you? I mean, it's it's super early too,
so I mean yeah, time will tell, right, time will
absolutely tell.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
One of the things that STFC has done in the
first half of their first season is signed players to extensions,
including players that I like, I'm not sure do we
really need c J.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Dos Santos for for two more seasons?

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I mean, Sisniega in two games, I kind of forget
Thosantos is on the team watching Sisniega for a couple
of games, you know, we've signed guys that led to
a feeling, and really, I mean, honest to God, this
isn't what I think is happening, like emotionally, not tactically,

(29:07):
emotionally for us first year SDFC fans. Here's our team celebrate,
here's our dps celebrate.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
We just got this Escondido kid on loan. Look what
he's doing. Goals, goals, goals, goals, goals. Look at what
we're doing. Wins, wins, wins, wins, wins.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Holy crap, we're top of the table. Hey, we're signing McVeigh. Hey,
we're signing you know, here, there, everywhere, we're signing. We're
signing Dose, Santas. We're signing guys.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Extension, extension, extension, well Alaski's a guarantee. That was the feeling,
right like all these other things are happening. Prahlawski. Obviously
we're signing him.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
The dude scores a thousand goals and he's Escondido. We're
gonna sign him. Oh no, wait, hang on, we're not
gonna sign him. And these other guys are gonna leave too,
and uh, we don't really have anyone. We don't have
an academy team where Tyler Heaps said this week, We're
not gonna have an academy team, not for a while.

(30:10):
At least maybe five years from now, we'll have an
academy team. So it's just a different feeling. That's why
I said the sun run is over, the honeymoon is over,
because it felt like all things were possible for a
month straight. It was like we could win every game,
we could sign every player, everything can be exactly right,
and we can win the Supporters Shield and MLS Cup

(30:32):
in the very very first year of the team's existence.
It's like whoa hang on cold duck at a reality
doesn't mean it's the San Diego sports curse. I saw
some people say that that was really obnoxious to me.
I don't think it's the San Diego sports curse. I
think it's we haven't been MLS fans before. We've never

(30:56):
dealt with a hardcap league before. We've never dealt with
the game and the TAM and the U twenty two
and the DP and the everything else of it. And
you know, Milan Alaski scoring four goals in Vancouver might
have been the worst thing for his MLS career.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
It might have been the one thing that led him
and his agent to go Son in the Moon. They'll
never say no. Now, they can't say no.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
We got him over the barrel, ask for it all,
pull down their pants and give it to them hard.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
We're gonna get him, We're gonna get him.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
And then they're like, oh, by the way, your loan's
over in two days and we've got a ticket for
you tomorrow. Please head to Lindberg Field see U International play.
It's gonna connect through Chicago the next thing you know,
you'll be you'll be back in Denmark.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's it's it's incredible, just again being able to see
again the lengths of which this team is and in
the field that I work in, just working with you know,
the youth really not necessarily a good thing, but flying
the planet and building the plane as it's flying, like
you're not only building the play as it's flying. You're

(32:11):
looking at the engine. You're like, I don't need that.
That's uh, well, we'll we're about that later. Take it off,
but it's already in flight. Nope, that's that's spy. We'll
figure it out. We and and Tyler is in charge
of that. He did say three or four players are
on their way for Sandy UFC so good or any

(32:34):
of them named Milanowski, I don't think so. Are you
going to get any any of this green ninety nine
percentiled up distribution for Milanowski and just leading the league,
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
But three or four players on the way.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Okay, So we're gonna hear shortly on the show some
comments from Tyler heaps, but I think it's let's transition
into Wednesday night's match and then we'll come out of
it to what Tyler had to say, because listen, I'm
sure in the SDFC front office there was just after

(33:09):
that match, you know, whether it was opening up hard
alcohol or cracking beers or whatever, and just like forehead,
you know, hands to the forehead, and like, of course.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
We fucking lose one. Nothing. The day after we let
Alasky go, like of course we do.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Of course, we play our most disconnected, dispiriting bummer match
of the year. And having watched every SDFC match, I
kind of felt like this was the bummer match of
the year because it started with a lineup that you're like, ugh,
oh really might in and on hell up top with dryer,

(33:50):
no chucky. We lose Elaski and now no chuky too.
I get it midweek, you know, Magri, no Bombino. We
got Negri in there, We've got Pilcher in there.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Boy, these guys haven't been great for us. And then
what happens.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
SDFC doesn't get a shot in the first half, not
one shot, and Toronto basically doesn't play the whole match.
Essentially the whole match they don't play. But then one
bad pass by SDFC leads to this one run and

(34:30):
Negrey kicks the dude in the shin after the ball
had already gone by into a relatively non dangerous area.
I'm gonna kick you in the shin one hundred percent.
That's a penalty, one hundred percent. Var was right, and
it was one hundred percent stupid and needless and annoying,

(34:51):
and what a way to lose a match on just
kind of a clunk clunk oops.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I think it was drier. The pass back like a
little poorly weighted. Yeah, what do you want?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Poor Sistaniega just falls on his hip. It looks bad.
He was never going to stop that shot. If you
told him where it was coming, you couldn't have stopped
that shot. But you know there it is Nagri, not
the best player in the team, makes just kind of
a clunky, just wooden penalty and then the team doesn't
score a single goal the whole night.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Like you reap what you sew.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
It was incredible just feeling how the players work and
looked so heavy on the pitch. I'll tell you this
is actually some of the best that Snap Dragons, uh
surface has actually looked. So kudos to them, but very
few times I actually say that, kudos to them. But
it just felt like it was molasses out there for

(35:50):
San Diego FC. Nothing was happening. The Chris passes, it
wasn't weren't working Domas Sankeell just you can tell how
his night was gonna go. First interaction with the game
and off sides just and just very off sides, uh
just running into places. Dryer having to drift into his space,
into into into that middle area and honestly like it.

(36:14):
It's addition by subtraction with ankle. Just get him out
of the way because he's getting in the way for
Dryer at this point. Might as well play with ten
men and just let Dryer on the right end in
the middle. You'll figure it out. But even then, now
the defense only focuses on one player in dryer because Martin,
guess what, He's gonna run into some legs at some point.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Just let him or run. He's a little wind up
toy and he goes forward one way.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Sometimes it works, but he goes that way, and when
it doesn't work, it's okay, you gotta throw in.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
You excited some people with the play, okay, but where
was the production?

Speaker 3 (36:47):
And I mean it was it was just difficult to
watch a very tired San Diego FC as well, which
by the way, I think I put I texted you
guys like now that's now thirty seven minutes combined in
the last four halfs of extra time.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of extra time there, and.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Just you could you could see that not having those
extra bodies, right, they don't have a full roster.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
And this is what we have to come up with.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
We have to put Negri in there, we have to
put on her on top, we have to put you know,
Valadkari's in for a good boy, which we haven't seen
in a while. Hopefully that's not too concerning, but yeah,
this is what we're seeing and in this in this match.
What I what I was seeing was the midfield was

(37:41):
just not there. It was pretty much non existent yet
just with eighty nine touches and they just couldn't get
him the ball. They kind of just took away any
anything around him and man, it just yeah, and then
and the thing about these teams, the teams that don't
want the ball, right is they're good with one goal

(38:03):
and then they're just playing back. They're just gonna play
back the whole way. They didn't want they don't want possession.
It was seventy thirty the whole way, like first half
and second second half pretty much so the whole game.
They're just giving us the ball, giving us the opportunities,
but we can't do anything. We can't connect the past.

(38:23):
The passes were at Chris and yeah, anheus in the
way he's not really creating his own chances, and yeah,
this is Yeah, we're kind of feeling the after effects
of not having Ailasky out there, and where we don't
have a full one Hundy Lozano, which I hope we

(38:44):
get ninety minutes out of him on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Well, it's becoming necessary, uh for s CFC to have
success and after the match, and you can watch all
of Mikey Vartis's postgame comments on Sandego the Football. The
full tape is up there. I watched that earlier today
and in the English speaking portion, he said very clearly

(39:08):
that SDFC was essentially unprepared for what Toronto FC delivered
on this Wednesday night. He said, well, they man marked
us every position on the field. But what they did
was they took one player that would man mark on
the front line and they just dropped it back. So
you've got one more player at the very back, one

(39:33):
fewer player at the top, everybody is playing man to man.
Well what does that mean, Varda said it It meant
that his center back was the player that Toronto FC
chose not to mark. So that's why you saw at
certain points in the match, even in the second half,
Chris McVeigh make these weird runs where he was like,

(39:56):
be the guy, be the guy, move in, be the guy,
because that was literally the only player that didn't have
an assigned defender to them out on the pitch. It
was a really really effective strategy for Toronto FC to
emerge with the zero zero tie out of Snapdragon Stadium
and they were gonna do it, but then Negri made

(40:17):
a dumb, needless penalty that gave them a gift.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
They accepted the gift.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
They took a one nothing lead, continued with the strategy
and all SDFC could do was Sumin Chukey in the
sixtieth minute and hope that.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
He would create and Chuky did. Chucky created a lot
of havoc, a lot of action.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
He was extremely positive, he was extremely aggressive, and it
led to the one kind of dramatic moment right of
this match. And there were there were a number of
chances right here's here's a good move by Chuke cutting inside,
shoots it right.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
To the keeper.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
But later on, yeah, eighty fifth minute, you'll get a
shot off. That's a handball off Quao. And when you
look at just that play, just that part, you can scream, Oh,
MLS gonna MLS because that's one hundred percent of handball.
But guys, I will say this, I did watch earlier

(41:19):
today and MLS does a good job of this kind
of like the most controversial show in the MSL Tony.
They do after every match day a review of the
tough decisions. And if you go to the beginning of
this play that we're showing right now on video on YouTube,
Chooky's two full strides offside. He's not just offside. SDFC

(41:44):
has two players offside at the point that the pass
is made. So what happened was var went looked at
it went oh yeah handball, Oh yeah, offside? No review
And I mean look right, it's pretty obvious when you
get this rate up line, and they had that on
the MLS YouTube video that Chucky was completely offside on

(42:05):
this play.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Yeah, that's a non starter right there, that's a that's a.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
There it is.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
You can see it right there. That's two full strides offside.
Get two balls in the mind technology here.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Yeah, that's that's as a textbook as it gets, right
for more for an offside call. And and even then, right,
if you want to get into hypotheticals, right, should that
have been called?

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Should that have been immediately called as a penalty?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (42:38):
You know that then you rely on the referee and
the human aspect of like, well, why isn't that called
the penalty? Shouldn't the whistle have gone to the mouth
and beg call. That's where my mind goes, right and
and say that's an offside to begin with. Okay, cool,
that's what va R is for. But even then my
mind always goes to, hey, even if it's off side,

(42:59):
for the morale standpoint, you gotta score that here like
that boy has to touch the net even if it's
an offside. Man like That's how the night was going
for San Diego FC. It was just frustrating. The players
were frustrated with each other. They were tired, legs out there.
Some players had their worst match for San Diego FC. Honestly,
Verhoven just tough to watch, tough to watch. He's tired.

(43:24):
These these players are tired. They're stepping in for injuries again.
Willie Kumalo, he's has a very severe injury and he's
been out for a while. He will still be out
for some time. We'll get some more insight tomorrow at training.
We will talk with Mikey Bobis about you know, where they're.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
At with this.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
But uh, it was a tough, tough match for STFC.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Well Ian went with Losano. You got five shots off
and that and that led the team. As soon as
he came on, he was a difference maker. And yeah,
I wish we could have seen more and yeah we
really need this team at full strength here because hopefully
as soon as next week, that's when the transfer window opens,

(44:11):
we'll see the influx of players that Tyler Heaps has
plan to bring on.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Why don't we just go ahead and leave that match
right there. There's not a ton more to say about
kind of the biggest just clunker, tossing a brick in
the punch bowl, you know, effort for San Diego with see,
it wasn't the best Yepe didn't play his best. Dryer
didn't play his best. Ryer was semi invisible at multiple

(44:43):
times in the match. Everything felt disjointed. Sistiega, poor kid,
just just a stand in front of one penalty Toronto
didn't even stress the eighteen any other time in ninety
plus minute. All Pablo had to do was just distribute

(45:03):
the rest of the match, So, you know, incredibly frustrating,
and who knows. I have no idea at the end
of the year whether those three miss points or one
miss point is going to be a difference.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
What I know is that it felt it felt right.
I hate to say that, but it felt right. It
felt right for SDFC.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
To lose one nill right after letting a Loski walk
and playing the middle match of three matches in a
day and just putting up a straight ass clunker.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
And that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
This was an ugly match that no one should ever
watch again. So with that, let's switch up. Let's hear
from sporting director Tyler Heaps. These were his comments before
the match and what you'll hear is him and this
is another thing we haven't talked about. Yes, we're Laffelsend
has been sent. Doubt he's gone as well. Aiden Harangi

(46:04):
is in a new loan coming from Bundesliga, a new
young player for the back line. Let's hear what Tyler
Heaps had to say about that, but also about Milana
Laski about the negotiations that went south. Some comments from
a guy I've got a lot of respect for, guy
who's been really straight up as the sporting director of

(46:24):
vest CFC.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Here's Tyler Heaps.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
Today is so.

Speaker 8 (46:29):
Yes for obviously somebody that we took an expansion and
somebody that was great for the team.

Speaker 7 (46:34):
Obviously, his playing time has slowly went down throughout the season.

Speaker 8 (46:38):
He was a key piece obviously early on and became
a role player at what I can say Oh, yesper
He's an unbelievable professional.

Speaker 7 (46:43):
He handled that with class. He's been wanting to go
back home closer to family.

Speaker 8 (46:47):
It was actually a conversation we had whenever we told
him we were going to take him an expansion, and
so an opportunity came up where he could go back.

Speaker 7 (46:53):
Closer to family. He's obviously just signed.

Speaker 8 (46:55):
Today for a Follish club and so we tried to
do whatever we could to help him in that and
really help him in his family because he's been here
for so long. Butpe we told him we wouldn't do
that until we got a replacement in and so he
didn't became available. He didn't somebody that we've been tracking
for a long time. We actually tried to get him
before the season started, but Frankfurt resigned him. And now
he's somebody that has joined the group and we'll start

(47:15):
training and I will obviously be available to play shortly
after the window opens, so looking forward to having him
in the group.

Speaker 7 (47:21):
He's really open minded. He knows Kelvin from his youth.

Speaker 8 (47:25):
National team days when Kelvin was an assistant coach. He
knows Luca Bobino, he knows Oscar so he knows a
lot of familiar faces.

Speaker 7 (47:32):
Obviously, we do not have an option to buy at
the moment.

Speaker 8 (47:37):
Obviously, a lot of questions about our interest in LOMBOCKI
tell us just about negotiations and how things gotten don Yeah,
high level. I can say all parties wanted to get
a deal done. There was a lot of transparency. There
was a lot of open talks. They started weeks ago.
It's not something that started in the last game. Obviously,
with his success made the conversations more difficult. I'll say

(47:59):
that it was not the conversation between us and Esse
norseland those are very easy to have, but it was
definitely between our side and the player side. And look,
he was a player that came here and had a
tremendous amount of success and it's why we brought him.
But he's also a player that we know very well.
He's been in our organization, our for eighteen months. So
obviously our negotiations size was probably a little bit more

(48:20):
firm in terms of what we knew about the player
from the longevity of him being with us, and case
was on a very short term thinking in terms of
what he's done in the last couple of games, which
has been tremendous. It probably will never be done again
in MLS, So disappointed for sure. He's a fantastic person.
I know he was disappointed as well, and it's not
an easy one to lose somebody from here. But let's
see what ends up happening down the line. Was close

(48:42):
to anew pointers you feel like it was, we were
a long ways away. I think if it was close it,
it would have gotten done. And that was probably the
more frustrating part is I think it could have gotten
done either from an extension to the end of the year,
but it's obviously a player's choice two to one long
term stability as well, so we get both sides of it.

Speaker 7 (48:59):
It's not easy, the difficult parts of my job as well,
but it's one that we need to protect. The long term.

Speaker 8 (49:06):
Process of This league is obviously a salary cap league,
so it's very difficult to start to project into the future,
and so it's just something that didn't make.

Speaker 7 (49:13):
Sense for us to do right now.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
And we want to thank Alejandro Gusman, Mahea and TJ
Sports MX for giving us access to that clip. Very
honest speaking from Tyler Heaps, and the part that really
resonated for me. Guys was saying how frustrated he was
because he said, if it was close, we would have
gotten it done. So it means that it was so

(49:37):
far apart that it was kind of beyond the scope
of reason for Tyler Heaps to accept the Lawski's offer,
as Milan wanted to put it.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
What I do know is that it was threefold times
at least what he was asking of what he was
making right now.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
So Alex, with that you heard Tyler he was talking
directly to you.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Anybody who has a question of why why not, Well
he just told you, Alex, what do you think about that?

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Yeah, threefold that would be Yeah, I think, man, I
think I would make that deal though, I think, but
again I think it's this is all just dependent on
what the other booths are gonna be. And man, that

(50:34):
that that's a really it's gonna be very questionable. We're
gonna see this out, We're gonna really see who's gonna
be brought in, and we're gonna be Okay, they're probably
gonna be on the younger side. They're probably gonna be
I would have to imagine some MLS trade's happening too.
Within the within the league. So man, it's gonna be

(50:58):
it's gonna be really interesting next week and for the
next month on who's going to be brought in.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Here's something I want to say in defense of Tyler Heaps,
or just for perspective for everybody listening and watching, whomever
he brings in to be the nine is going to
be unfairly judged against the performance for fourteen games of
Milana Lawsky, because the critical thing that I heard in

(51:28):
that clip is that Tyler said he danced up and
he kind of said it like, we've been around Milan
a long time. We've had eighteen months, and we have
an idea of who he is, and then he scored
all these goals, and now he has an idea of
who he is and we're not on the same page anymore.

(51:52):
So what he's saying in that is, hey, Kromados, chill.
He was going to finish with twelve goals. He got
ten and fourteen. If he gave him thirty, he'll finish
with twelve. This was the craziest run of his life.

(52:12):
We don't believe he can do this. We don't think
he can continue this performance, and we can bring in
someone at a third of the cost or half of
the cost, who will be more effective than how we
actually rate Milan Alaski. Two years from now, Milanilaski could

(52:36):
be MLS MVP and win the Landon Donovan Award for
LA Galaxy or Columbus Crew or DC United or some
other team and put the lie to Tyler Heaps.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Or he could fail to.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Sign in Bundesliga in Serie AI, you know, in LAA Liga,
and get stuck in Denmark and completely regret this as
the biggest overreach of his life. But what is unfair
to Tyler is that whomever he brings in is going
to be judged not against the reality of Milaniloski the player,

(53:14):
but against the ghost of Milanalaski. Four goals in fifteen
minutes at BC Place, Well, this guy didn't score four
goals in fifteen minutes. He sucks, you know, And that's unfair.
And that's something I'm going to try on this show
not to do is to judge everyone against the ghost
of a guy who's gone.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
That's fair. How about and this is where you know,
I'll give a pushback.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
What about the actual number nine that's already here that
they don't have to bring anybody like pressure on that guy,
the pressure on Tomas. Every game from here on now,
every off side, every miss, everything.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Is going to be. Milin could have done that, Milan
could have scored that. Yes, Milan would have made that run.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
But the thing about that is that he's been here,
lost this spot to a loan player because of an
incredible performance, lost this spot to a loan player, never
established himself as the number nine.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Still is struggling.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
However, Comma the Masacle is playing the right to dream
way me and Ailoski may have tvated a little bit
from the script, may have found his way into some
fortune because the book says run straight. Well maybe if
I run a little squiggle around there, then I'll run straight.

(54:31):
I'll find some success. And that's what I believe.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
From a couple of sources is what is was the
case here. He he was a maverick. He was literally
that guy on the on the number nine position that
you would want.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
And I mean, if you're familiar with Ted Lasso, that
that enigma, just the striker of like, yeah, that's his.
I am him, I am Himothy, I am Iloski. But
is it really worth three four old the amount of
you were doing. But ultimately, yeah, this is this is
gonna be something a pivotal point in this inaugural season

(55:07):
for SANDIEGEFC, the era because there's now three eras before Milaniloski,
during Milaniloski, and after Milaniloski.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
And I think last night we saw that before Alana
Milan ELASKI I had that feeling of it again. It's
like I've seen this, I've seen this thing before.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Oh no no, but later in that clip and again
we'll be able to find the full clip, but we'll
link it thanks to Alex Mehia and TJ Sports.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
But he does say that let's not forget Gromados. I
like it.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Before Milanilowski got here to Santa UFC, SANDYFC was second
in scoring in the entire league. So he made sure
to make make that known. There's a lot of hand
washing by the club in this situation, like, yeah, just
let's not let's not forget before miliae Thoseki was a
thing too.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
So did we have one more Tyler Heaps quote or clip?
I mean yes, uh, yes I do.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
And so in this press availability for Tyler Heaps before
the game yesterday, uh, got there. And so okay, we're
talking about me Lyne, We've talked about Alflson, We're talking
about what happened, So what's next? Like we keep hearing
like these past players now things in the past. All right, boohoo,
everybody can cry river, But now what's going to happen?

(56:38):
And so uh, here is Tyler Heaps in that same
session for what he's looking for in terms of the
players incoming for San Diego FC That there players obviously
talking about the chemistry that this team has already built.
What are those components, tangibles and intangibles that a player

(56:59):
must have to be part of this team?

Speaker 7 (57:01):
I think you want us play. They need to know
how to play football. They need to know how to
obviously solve pressure whenever it's on.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
And you have to be really brave.

Speaker 7 (57:08):
What we're asking these players to do is not easy,
and we're gonna make mistakes. But also we hope that
we go to culture that's really welcomes that and we
want to grow off that. And then we don't hold
that against any of these players.

Speaker 9 (57:18):
And so we need somebody that again is comprehend themselves,
is comprehend. The group wants to play in the collective.
We need somebody that makes bigger than just themselves because
that's also really important in terms of how they play.
And so there's a lot of different options right now.
We're just trying to make sure they find the right wings.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Kind a subtle dig get in Milan in that it's
that kind of the things we're looking for.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
We believe he's not that.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
There were there were a couple more digs that I
would consider nothing and maybe you know, you know, blind
ccs for Milanilowski in this and for sure, uh, because
again you can point are like, well number thirty two
had that?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Did did thirty two.

Speaker 7 (58:01):
Not give you that?

Speaker 2 (58:02):
You had a guy brave as f he was super brave?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Yeah, but I mean, hey, I guess there's a factory
of Milawski's heading towards San Diego, which you know it
wouldn't be the worst thing if you're right to dream
or SANDYFC just wait, just wait to learn a new
name and spend one hundred and sixty dollars on a
jersey that's going to be outdated in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
You won't fool me again.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Eighteen threads, which I heard is changing its name to
seventeen threads because Ascandido was asking out, just.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
We're out, and I I keed, I keed.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Okay, we're gonna trans continue to move along in the show,
to look ahead to Honestly, a much bigger match Saturday,
white Caps is a much bigger match than Toronto we FC.
If you were gonna pick, if you had told me
last Sunday, one win, one loss, assign them, I would

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have said beat Vancouver, lose to Toronto like one because
of what it means. That's not to say that we're
happy with the loss to Toronto. Just if if if right.
So we're gonna get ahead to talk about this white
Caps rematch. I want to very very briefly address because

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we do not have a voice of the supporters. We
intended to have a voice of the supporters today. One
of the reasons we don't have a voice of supporters today,
if you read the game story by Mark Ziggler in
the ut, he made sure to point out that there
was another fight in the supporters section once the final

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whistle took place on Wednesday night. Now, normally I'm in
the supporter section. I was not there last night. I
will be there Saturday, so I can't give you my
first person account. I've asked some dear friends, some people
who I knew were there. The most I've heard is
that somebody and I don't know who, and they don't

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know who, through a full beer cup Michelada technically, but
through a full beer cup at the head of one
of the drummers, and whatever the whatever there was behind it,
or intention or non intention or whatever, that thing happened.

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And once you get clocked by a metal cup with
a mishi in it, you get mad and look to retaliate,
and something along those lines happened, and that it happened
with the major groups, with Barta, with Dago Boys, with Chavos,
that it is in that part of the section, and

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it took place from Tara SD is the name of
the overall conglomeration, the Union of all supporters groups, and
Frontera SD is getting a really, really shitty reputation half
a season into the first season of San Diego FC,
and there are certain people in the media you know

(01:01:26):
who you are, that absolutely lap this up, okay, like
giving a dog a fresh bowl of waters, Let me
get my fill, because they want to equate supporters culture
with violence. They want to equate supporters culture with something

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less than what a real soccer fan would do. And
there's a lot of coding in there that I really
really find distasteful. But I also have an equally hard
time ripping the guy who writes it when the stuff
is just handed to him on a silver platter. So

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as a member, I hate to have to bring this
up again, but what you do in a supporter section
is your wave flags. You sing songs, you dance around,
and you wear funny outfits.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
And you know what that makes you? Theater kids. Your
theater kids, Okay, yat and from Tara SD have a
lot more in common than you'd like to admit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
And nowhere in supporters culture does it say throwing fists.
It's woh, we let off a smoke bomb. We're so edgy,
your theater kids. I'm a theater kid. We're all theater kids.
We're not gangsters. We fucking dance and sing and wear

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outfits and wave flags. Okay, can we please have some
perspective as to what we're doing, which is goofy childlike
shit not signing up for the battalion? You know, I mean,
I get it all the militaristic stuff battalion and there's

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no war, no gheta, there's no war here. We dance
and sing, So let's please keep that in mind that
we can just dance and sing because I'm really not
looking forward to Saturday. Whatever it is, the extra frisking
or the barricades, were the security presence right, the invasive

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reach in like whatever it is, like, I'm not looking
forward to that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
So can we please clean this the f up? And
and and now now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
Yeah, I'm look, I've I've been. I've been just to
kind of capstone this because I'm again it shouln't. Why
are we been talking about it again inaugural season, third time?
Like if people want to defend this then I really
don't want to hear it anymore. Like and if you do,
I'll have a conversation with you, but I'll push back.

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And I've gotten pushed back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Of like, oh you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Why why are you talking about this this way and
this way? Tell me it's different. Tell tell me you
didn't give anybody a reason. You gave them every reason
again and now it's not Oh l A versus l
sd SD versus l A gallaty No it's it's it's
you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Oh it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Families fight. Families fight, Yeah, they do, but they also
get restraining orders. And domestic violence is the number one
thing that causes murders. Like just the statistic, Like okay,
like starting to be a Debbie Downer, Want Want, but
you're Debbie downing the entire section that a lot of
people are working very hard on, including yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
That's the thing, including yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
You went ninety minutes, you kept cheering the entire time
for your team that lost, gave the worst performance at home,
one of them, and you're still there and you decide
to do that. Okay, that's your business decision.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
And enjoy home. But there was no business, Alex. It
was all emotion.

Speaker 4 (01:05:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
And the thing I'll just say is when you're the
supporter section, you're cheering and chanting, your banging drums, all
the attention is on you from a fan standpoint that's
away from the section. Yes, they're watching the football right
in front of them, but they hear you, like they

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see you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:02):
They know where you're at in the section, and all
they have to do.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
All a casual fan has to do is like look
to their left or look to the right and they're like, oh,
what what's going on over there?

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Why why are they fighting?

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
Like you have to set you know, a good example
for everybody else to kind of, you know, cheer. You know,
they everybody just wants to go there, cheer, cheer on
the San Diego football team.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
And you got you got to set the example. You
guys are there all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
You're the most dedicated bands, and come on, you know
we we should all be better than you know, just
starting fights in the stands again.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Yeah, And and I just think, you know, whether you
wanted to establish as a club an edgy culture, whether
you wanted to make make it feel like your supporters
go hard, you know, like we go hard, cool, great fun,
what does that actually mean? Because the second and it

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dips into violence, The second that dips into stuff like that,
it creates a new which I've heard from casual fans like, oh,
I'll go to a Wave match, but I don't want
to go to SDFC.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
It sounds a little too rough. This coding in that too,
and it's all bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
And it all sucks and the best way to avoid
and trust me when I tell you, the LA fans LAFC,
their groups, Galaxy, their group. They've gone through this whole
thing two they've gone through it all worse, They've come
out the other side stronger, and so it shall be

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here in San Diego and supporters. Culture isn't going anywhere,
despite what a couple of people or a couple of
writers might love. It's not going anywhere. It's going to
get stronger and better. But part of a first year
thing is maybe weeding out some folks out of Frontera
SD that are there thinking they're not theater kids, thinking
that they are tough guys, because that shit's got to

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just stop, now stop now done.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Should have stopped. The Galaxy match should.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Have been the end of all of it, And for
anything to have happened after that is really frustrating for
me as a supporter, and I know there's a lot
of supporters who feel that way too. Okay, let's get
to Vancouver, because guys, if the Sun Run is over,
does that mean dark Clouds are settling in? If Canada

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comes in and gets six out of six this week,
it's a it's bad news for San Diego. See, season
isn't over everything, can you know? Everything's still in front
of him. But it's bad news, but is all forgiven.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
If they win, we'll feel better about it, right, We'll
feel better that they got three points. They you know,
they got a little bit more of a breathing room
when it comes to Vancouver, who's just right behind them
and winning tears all sometimes, and I think we really

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want to see three points at home, because yeah, there
this is. It hasn't looked good in the last couple
of games, right, right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Tony, Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:09:20):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
And what when we were talking about Eloski not being here, right,
I think the part of the strategy of being public
was saying, hey, he's going to be here to the
end of the month, because that came out of the club.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
That came out of the club. He's going to be
here to the end of the month. At least is gamesmanship.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
And now you've lost that because the only difference between
you and Vancouver was me Nanieloski. Otherwise that game ends
to zero. You know, the math doesn't math that way always,
but Takeloski out of that game. You lose to zero
against Vancouver, you're not the first you're not first place.
Then you come back home, you still have a tough

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match against Houston, you can keep sliding, sliding, sliding. July
has not been kind for San Diego FC, and it's
barely starting. And then you have Leagues Cup coming through.
You have players who are already tired. You have a
team who's playing you a second time. They have footage
on you, they have they have the actual pulse, they
have the players to defend.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Now you take away the X factor that took the
took them out last time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
You know, unless San Diego FC can bring out a
stellar performance like they have in the past where they've
gone through three game losing streaks before and they bounce back.
If they can replicate they replicate that again, I think
that's when we start.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
It's all forgiven now. Now it's a pattern of positivity.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
They have to go through this, look at each other
in the mirror, gain Mikeybot to say, yeah, we ate
humble Pie, or yet we got our ask kick today.
Now let's go ahead and go back to our principles
and this and this and this. But I see this
principal thing getting tiresome for a lot of fans, a
lot of people watching, because this is a stubbornness of
right to dream and the play style, and you gotta

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get used to it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Craig.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
The question I have for this match twofold. Obviously there
were rotations on Wednesday. Question number one for me is
can Chucky play ninety? Are we at the management point
with Chuky where we just cannot expect that at all?
And it's a matter of like, the best we can
hope for is start him and get sixty, or start

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him and get maybe seventy five if we're pushing it,
because sorry to say, and hopefully they'll give us something
else to say Saturday night, but the mtin on hell
Dryer that's not working, Like that's not going.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
It feels like you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Needed two of three of Dryer Lozano Alowski for this
offense to really click, and when you get down to
one of three, that just makes it very easy on
the defense. So question number one for me is how
much Choky can we get on Saturday Night?

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
I'll probably have the answer for tomorrow, But Alex, how
much do you think we're going to get out of them?

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
The way it's trending, it looks like we can either expect.

Speaker 5 (01:12:27):
A good thirty at the at the very end of
the game, or we're getting sixty and at the start
of the game. But it I hope he can go Nady,
but man, it's it's not it's not looking like it's
heading that way, Choogy. Especially for this match, you know,
you really want to play your best against Vancouver because

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they're going to be bringing their best. Some of the
players we didn't see last time to the Gold Cup.
They're coming back, Sebastian burgh Alter, Brianon White, I think
it was Nelson too. They're all coming back, and you know,
they all impacted the last game when it came to Houston.

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Burrholter scored, Sabby scored, and White scored three zero against
the Dynamo. So we really do need our best eleven
there against Vancouver.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
What do you think, Tony, I'll pass the crag you
you were right there, Yeah, I mean I think you
guys are both on it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
I don't think that we can get even seventy five
out of Chooky right now, So that puts a lot
of pressure on the first half. You know, like the
Chicago Fire match, you get up to nil, you can
kind of bunker in, you can hang on, you can
win a game like that. I could see that happening
at home but you need to score in the first half. Now,

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if you're starting chooky and you're putting all your guns
out there, you're putting your chips out on the on
the felt early. You need to get results, which leads
me to the next question. How important is Luka Bombino
yea to this team right now? Because the difference was
stark when Bombino came in in terms of his speed,

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his ability to come up to join the attack, his
dynamicism that was deeply lacking with the starting back line
that STFC put out there on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Yeah, I mean, look up O Mino.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
I think it was two weeks ago where I mentioned
here that he had been on the side training a
little bit and I noticed that he was doing a
little bit of rehab. He did end up playing a
full ninety after that, but there seems to be something caring,
so it's important to have him out there. But Negative
is a difference between at Toronto, like that's that's the

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definitely exactly what happened there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Negative was not having a good game. He was, you know,
just kind of bumbling about the match.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
And you know, not to say he didn't try his best,
because he absolutely did, but his gear is just not
there even you know, getting concussion, a collision with head
to head, Uh, you know those type of things. That's like, man,
he's just having that type of game And for this team,
for Sandy UFC, you can't afford to have a player
have that type of game ever, because then it's it's

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a catastrophic uh situation for the team.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
And like that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
And if this does keep happening, then you're gonna have
a lot of porous defensive moments. If it's happening up top,
if you lose the ball with the striker, if you
lose the ball in the midfield you can't control it,
or somebody in the back. One player is incredibly important
for this team. And look at them, you know, I
think is one of the players that I think people
have been taken not for granted, but you're starting to
see the quality of this kid, especially when he's on

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on a really good match.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
Yeah, he can track back, you know, way better than
than Negar can.

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
And he's really involved in the in the offensive side
and the way that that Sandy USC plays. He yeah,
he's involved from almost like start to finish sometimes and
I there there's like, really, you really need that kid
on the on on the pitch, and hopefully he can play.

(01:16:27):
He's doing okay, and we see a full night at
a Bombino because he's crucial from the start to finish
of this attack. So yeah, hopefully true he can play,
Bombino can play. You know, we we really need this
uh uh, the full strength of this offense to work.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Well guys, uh anything else on this. I mean, I'm
just completely being honest. I feel the end of the
Sun run and because of that, I have a lot
of apprehension for Saturday night's match.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
I feel like, right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Now we aren't karmically aligned to surprise with a giant performance,
and I am hoping to be completely wrong about that
and for the team to surprise and win three to nothing,
three to one, you know, really be dynamic, and then
we'll be back with a postmatch show later in the weekend,
super fired up, and I'll be right there in front saying,

(01:17:28):
sh why did I doubt you? Guys, Let's keep it going.
Lets the clouds have parted in the Sun is back out.
But right now I feel like it's a little bit
of a struggling team against a Vancouver team. That's getting
loaded and a home advantage that all of a sudden
feels a little wobbly to me, just feels there's just
a little wobble in the vibe. So I'd love to

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see all of that corrected on Saturday night. I think
it would be gigantic for the franchise to get a
result on Saturday night, because a loss is just kind
of adding to the questions and adding to the pressure
for the transfer window. Again, nothing is the season isn't
over nothing. You know, lose five to nothing on Saturday night,

(01:18:13):
Season's not over. But get cooped five goose. That's not
what you wanted. So I'm really hoping for a big
turnaround from San Diego f C. And I'm hoping for
a lot of questions to be answered because that would
be really affirming for the fans of this fledgling team
to see some questions answered. Otherwise, I think we're gonna
keep questioning right until we get to that window.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (01:18:39):
And you know, if you're looking at some positives in
this match, hopefully you know they play away at the
Rapids at away at Galaxy since we last saw them
and they lost three zero three zero, and they only
barely beat l A f C won nothing away, so

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their last three away matches have been one to six.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
So there's some hope. There's some hope, and let's let's
go Tricky Losano.

Speaker 5 (01:19:16):
I'm I'm really hoping he can play, and then, uh,
you know that that will help me relax a little
bit heading into Saturday's match.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
Yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot of questions to
be answered, like you said, Craigan, and I'm I'm I
really think that San Diego is gonna bounce back, like
there's gonna be a bounce back, and and they're gonna
have to have some adjustments of the players that are
kind of come in. But it's it's a it's a
lot of minutes played already on extra time too for
these players tired legs, and overall, it's a it's a

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test of who's gonna be on this team and who's
gonna carry the Right to Dreams style of plate throughout
the entire season. They're gonna live and they're gonna die
by that style. And the players that are in this match.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
And in this team, well, hey, it wasn't going to
be a honeymoon forever. It wasn't going to be a
Sun run forever. We were going to have to confront
the realities of being an expansion team. I've thought a
lot sooner than we had to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
But here it is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
It's the middle of the season, it's the middle of July,
and so you know, the seams are showing a little bit,
and it's time for a little adversity to fall into
the STFC universe. It's fallen into the supporters universe, it's
fallen into the Club on the Pitches universe, and it's
time to see how everyone bounces back and reacts and
grows and moves forward out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Either way, We'll be here with you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Your Chromaniacs, regathering after Saturday's result to let you know
what we really think and will be here for you
with it. And we are so thankful to everybody who
has joined this show early on again at the end,
Like we said at the start, if you've made it
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Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Alex.

Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
I'm over at Chromatics FC on substack and I'll probably
talk about more of the transactions we've had, the ends
and outs and instead of focusing on that Toronto Matt
and that's not very pleasant to talk about, So I'm
gonna focus on some other stuff, how about you, Craig.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Well, as for me, I'm hosting three podcasts a week.
So you've got the Chromaniacs, You've got padres hot Tub
which has the main show, and then multiple other shows
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Tub and hosting crossing Streams. The weekly television streaming recommendation
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(01:22:29):
of Anarchy, so check that out. Crossing streams wherever you
get this podcast, you can find that one as well. Okay,
that's it for Tony Sanchez and Alex Banya. I'm Craig Elston.
Thank you for making it to the end of the show.
Let's see what happens out of the Snap on Saturday
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