November 30, 2021 • 45 mins
Welcome to episode 17 of the Cinemassacre Podcast!! The full crew of Cinemassacre is BACK (James, Kieran, and Justin). We're also shortening these podcasts to be tighter, in a 35 to 50 minute range, so, excuse us as we slide into that.
The guys chat about their lives and the stuff they love: movies, games, and making videos. You’ll also hear about behind-the-scenes antics, anecdotes about being long-time YouTubers, and a ton of obscure pop-culture crap. It’s the off-the-cuff banter from Rental Reviews mixed with an AVGN panel, every Tuesday around 3pm ET... or find it on https://cinemassacre.com or wherever you get your podcasts shortly after.
Cinemassacre Podcast #17 - Favorite Angry Video Game Nerd Episodes
The guys chat about their lives and the stuff they love: movies, games, and making videos. You’ll also hear about behind-the-scenes antics, anecdotes about being long-time YouTubers, and a ton of obscure pop-culture crap. It’s the off-the-cuff banter from Rental Reviews mixed with an AVGN panel, every Tuesday around 3pm ET... or find it on https://cinemassacre.com or wherever you get your podcasts shortly after.
Cinemassacre Podcast #17 - Favorite Angry Video Game Nerd Episodes
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Welcome back to the Cinemascar podcast.I'm James, it's your old pal Trusty
Justy. I am Karen, andtoday we're going to talk about our favorite
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two hundred episodes of Abgen out there, we've been sort of celebrating and reminiscing
on past episodes. So I don'tknow, I'm curious to hear what are
your guys favorites? And I'll tellyou mine, I guess, even though
I think I've talked about a lot, but still, hey, there's so
many. See it's hard. It'sreally hard to pick um. But I
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could go on forever about them.So I don't know, let me see
what you guys have to say.First. First, I want to say
I have my phone out just becauseI'm gonna have the full episode list here.
I'm not just looking at my phone, but definitely like Off the Bat.
My first favorite Abgen, you know, because I saw it when it
came out, was TMNT, thefirst Ninja Turtles episode five, and and
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that's you know, and then youknow, people ask how did how did
you ever meet James or whatever?When that came out. I message you
about, you know, putting Deador the Better into the film festival.
I was running at my school ina across the river from Philly and all
that kind of stuff, but justwatching that Turtles episode because I had so
many frustrating memories of that game growingup. I was just like, Oh,
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this guy knows what the fuck he'stalking about. This is pretty f
funny. Um, you know.So it's awesome eventually getting to work on
the NERD. I know Karen cansay the same stuff. But definitely my
first favorite episode was and probably oneit definitely my top ten was TM and
T. Yeah, that's that wasa big one because I mean early on
when it was so fresh and new, like that was each one was getting
a little more momentum. But Iremember that one was like a big breakthrough
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one because probably because it was NinjaTurtles. A lot of people remember that.
But to this day, yeah,a lot of people tell me,
like, yeah, that was thefirst one I saw. I remember when
it came out, it was alittle more like like a controversial opinion because
I'm talking shit on this game thatwas like rated number one in Nintendo Power
for like month after month after month. It was like the top when they
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had that like top thirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the sales charts
and stuff or yeah, or likethe polls or I forget, I forget
if it was like a vote orwhat. But but anyway, I was
like, nah, no, I'mgoing to talk shit on this game.
Yeah. You know, even thoughI exaggerate a lot of that, it
um the points were valid. Itwas like, you know, those really
tough jumps and all that kind ofstuff. Those pissed me off as a
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kid. I mean the first timeI ever played that game was I got
run over by that steam roller inthe vie the first thing you do,
like you know, and that wasI think that's like how a lot of
people started with it. Yeah,it was just frustrating. Yeah it was.
Yeah, But as a kid,I don't think I complained about it.
I think as as a kid,I just accepted the game. Yeah.
But then as an adult, likeyou look back and you're like,
all right, you know, someof that was crap. And I never
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had a concept of like a shittygame, yeah, until like when I
started watching all these videos and stuff, because I just you know, I
used to play whatever. Yeah,whatever game we got, the game was
bad. You just didn't really playit the next time where you didn't write
it again, you didn't get likemad, and especially it was one of
the games you owned, you hadto play it. Because you might not
get another game for months, youknow what I mean, like or you
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know, like I only got gamesat Christmas time. Really rarely did I
get another video game that wasn't apresent for my birthdayre for Christmas. So
it was you know, and Ionly you know, as a kid,
you only had one console most thenyou only had like maybe ten games throughout
that entire console's lifespan, and yourented a lot, like I rented games
from Blockbuster. But if that gamesucked, you were stuck with it for
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a long time and you just hadto get good at it. Yeah,
what about you, what's your favorite? I have too many, like to
be as honestly, like, um, I got into the video is kind
of late, like not like superlate. But the first one I ever
watched was um, the first Ghostbustersone. Oh yeah, and that was
the first one I saw. Andit was like popping up on YouTube and
uh that was this was like earlyYouTube because you know, YouTube wasn't it
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started obvious just a place that youcould upload yeah anything, It wasn't.
What was the first video on mytrip to the zoo? Yeah, it
was just people's vacation videos. Therewasn't like narrative content or anything or shows.
It just was every like I putmy homework on YouTube things like that
just to show my mom or whatever. But it wasn't the newest episode.
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The newest episode at the time wasTexas Chainsaw. Yeah. So then what
I did was I watched, um, the Ghostbusters one. I watched all
those, then I watched the TexasChainsaw one, and then I went back
and me and my roommate Jamie whenwe were in college that was back on
your website where the menu to watcheach one was like any s cartridge and
you would click on it yeah yeah, the power glove and when yeah it
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was, you put the mouse overand they would change, like you know,
we went I went through everything atthose The Bugs Bunny's birthday blow out
was was straight up the funniest fuckingthing I'd ever seen in my life at
that point. The second, likeeverything about it. I was like me
and me and my roommate were justlike fucking cracking up. When when you
ship on his face at the endand Bugs Bunny, He's like, oh
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shit, and it's just the shipis all we were. I never in
my life I showed that at ain a in a class I had,
um uh this thing called theories ofcommunication and it was about like television and
radio and all these things, anduh, we had to do a report
at the end of research paper.And I asked if he was like,
you know, if you have anyother things that aren't on the list,
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you can suggest. I said,well, what about YouTube? You watch
this? Yeah. So, soI had this teacher he was he was
his name was mister Youngman, andhe was really old. He was super
old like he was he was likeeighties, like high eighties old man youngman,
old man youngman, and uh heuh. You know. The whole
class was about like the the historyof communication in every form and that that's
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why we as people are are theway we are is because we can communicate
better than any other species on Earth, like an EPCOT spaceship Earth kind of.
Yeah. So it's so so,you know, everybody's doing their projects
and they're all fucking you know,they're talking about oh Marconi and these things
and the um and I got intoYouTube and we had to show examples.
So the two examples I showed waschocolate rain with Taizon day and I showed
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you shitting on bugs money, andmy teacher fucking died like in the in
the he was laughing in so insanelyand he was that scene. And I
showed the ending scene just where whereyou're flipping out and you're beating shit out
of him and he's crying in theand then the second you dump on his
face, his face was red andhe was like, oh my god.
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And he was just like, neverin my life did I ever think I'd
see someone take a shit on bugsBunny. My god, like he was
blown away by shitting on bugs Bunny'sface and very like yeah, and and
that's a yeah. He thought itwas like and this guy he was like
eighty something and he but he thoughteverything was like you know, he wasn't
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like um an a typical you know, you think a person who's eighty years
old to be like that's vulgar.Get that out of my class. He
fucking loved it, every second ofit. Think of chocolate rain. Oh,
he thought he actually was like,my god, his voice is angelic,
he said about Tason Day. Buthe liked the chocolate rain on beach
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body. Yeah, wow, itcame full. I actually thought when you
first said that, I thought youhad a theme, like, so these
are things that used chocolate. Iknow, I didn't even think of it,
just it was just at the time, chocolate rain was probably the most
popular thing, so I figured that'syou know, that was the first,
like I guess instance of like aviral YouTube video that that thing blew up
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when it happened, and then thiswas like you know, hey, people
are making shows on it and everything. But other than that, like you
know, bugs Bony's birthday blow out. But just to say something quick like
that, that's really like, that'san awesome story. I love hearing stuff
like that, Like lots of timesI don't really get to hear like what
people's experiences are like watching it.And um so that's always the best thing
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when somebody lets me know how howmuch they laughed at something, because usually
I just I make the video andthen I have to go right into making
the next video. It's not likeI really you know, like take enough
time to really digest anything. UmBut I always love anytime someone sends me
a message and tells me about howyou know, they they laughed really hard.
I mean, uh, somebody recentlytold me that the the football rant
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I did and the Atari Sports saidlike I laughed so hard my side hurt.
You know what he called Ryan doesthat all the time, Like where
are we like like a sports barduring a convention or whatever. We're like,
oh, guys like football football,Ye, we'll just go right into
it, like perfect. People weredoing that to me at MAGFest because there
was because you know, MAGFest happensin January, and there's a um in
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the hotel. There was sports onthe TV because I guess it's like,
you know, it's it's football seasonand everything. I guess, yeah,
yeah, it's like at least it'scoming up. I guess, so there's
football in there. And then Iwalked by and like like a bunch of
fans start chanting football football. Yeah. But another thing about the bugs Bunny
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one, like I don't think it'llever be as funny as that first punch
of bugs Bunny because you're not expectingit. Yeah. But the first time
I hit him, you don't knowit's coming. Yeah. But then the
rest of it it's like, Okay, that's a full on beating, and
that's what you know. The beatingat the end is so the kick through
the boxes and everything, We're like, oh, just kick him and the
slow through the boxes. Yeah,that was back when I couldn't even shoot
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on SlowMo. Actually just slowed thefootage down, so it's all choppy,
but you know it's it's also too. When you guys did the the what
was it, um Crazy Castle andyou guys released them the trailer for it,
I got super hype. It waslike bugs Bunny was coming back to
get his revenge. Oh he's likewhen he's like, I'm getting shit on
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the fucking face, like yells likethat killed me. Oh yeah. And
the rabbit poop when yeah, therabbit poop that's all balls. Yeah,
oh my god. Yeah. Ithink there's a controversial take on this one,
but definitely one of my favorite onesis the Chronologically Confused about Movie Sequels
and Titles. Yeah. I thinkpeople like that one. I say in
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the sense of like, oh,when you think of your favorite episodes,
like just because I like more ofthe history and the confused talking about things,
and um, you know if alllike the other movie reviews you do
or we do or whatever. Um, I just thought that one was good
because I know you did that one, then the other one, and then
we did the Kingdom of Arts oneand uh, you know I always like
that that series and thought it shouldhave been its own, like but you
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know, like because you know,because there like there was a there was
a path where like the Nerd likeyou like like like the Nerd Coop Review
other things that aren't Yeah, yeah, movies like you know you like you
know, like when you're talking aboutyour shitty drawer or whatever, you know,
you can frame it in that style. So yeah, I definitely like
that one because I kind of brokethe mold a little bit. I also
loved all the like the compilation oneswere always ones I like to like the
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CDI all three CDI episodes, theJaguar episodes were great. I was like
those ones. But also to Batman, Batan Batman, that's probably that might
be Actually, that's probably if Iwere to say, like which one Batman
one and two are the funniest thingsI've ever watched. There's a when you're
like, what's it called? There'sthis one part in it that we me
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and my friend You've always mentioned.It's like you're like, this game sucks,
got to give it the Batman treatment. But you do this like swivel
with your head when you're getting up. Yeah, it's this like sass you
give it. I remember I remembersaying it, but I didn't remember that
I did a sas Yeah, hewas like a sassy head swirl. We'll
put it in. But I doremember, like if I pick up the
game and each time I would Iwould, I would say it longer where
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yeah, I'm badman. Also tojust the joker Michael Taya coming in as
a joker, especially at the endwhen you're shoving the games up his ass
and it's like converse sixty four.It's the but and you're smacking it in.
That was just really classic shit.And I love the extended fight scene
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you guys did where you did eachscene. Remember, Yeah, because I
had all the DVD. I haveall I have all the DVD I yeah,
I think I think you have allthe Screw Attack ones you have screen.
Yeah, I have every single ScrewAttack DVD. I have this screen
and I bought them all, likeand then you guys gave me the blue
rays when I started working here.But yeah, and the everything pretty much,
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I you know, I was Iwas watching this, uh between this
and like Tim and Eric were thetwo things like me and my roommates just
were binging all the time in thedorms, Like we would just sit and
watch it all the time, andwhen a new episode came out, we
were in like the animation We're justlike always watching them, and it was
it was like a hype event.Oh yeah, yeah. We were like
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it was a big deal, Likethat was by my college. We'd have
them on the projector screen or likewe take over the concert hall or whatever
and just put a giant Davy jet. Yeah, you know, we put
other things up there like You're theMan now dog and just this ebombs world
fucking early two thousands ship. Butthat was the thing was I was trying
to like when when I was inanimation school, there wasn't you know,
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the prospects of pitching a TV showwas not like everybody in your college is
gonna like your your teachers are gonnatell you it doesn't happen, blah blah
blah. So but I saw likeYouTube, I was like we could do
this. Like me and my friendslike we were like we could get into
YouTube, Like we can make ourown shows if we just work on it.
So we were just all, youknow, stuff like I was into
like the whole when Screwtak was thething, I was posting all my stuff
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on there. I used to doartwork on there. Um, I was
always posting. I used to postin new Grounds. I've been front page
twice on new Grounds, so Iused to It was just like this was
a big thing to see, especiallywhen I first saw the Rocky episode and
you were running up the Rocky Stepsand I realized you were in Philadelphia,
and I was like, holy shit, because and you guys too when I
met I met you guys actually throughthe whole thing too, because you guys
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were doing Underbelly and I ran intoJustin at at wizard World, and I
thought you guys were like in Texasbecause that's where Screwtak was at the time
or whatever. So when I sawyou guys, I was like, are
you justin Silverman from Underbelly? Likeit was big deal. Yeah, but
that yeah, because I know,because that's how I kind of got reconnected
to James, because we're like,hey, can I borrow that laser scope?
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We're making a Nintendo Man kind ofcostume. You know, we just
gotta rip James off a little bit. So if we're gonna do it we
should get the actual props. Sothat was cool and connecting on that stuff
because doing the screw attack stuff thatwas a lot. It was definitely a
lot funner back then. But youknow, still who you know shooting all
this stuff whenever, but it wasdefinitely a lot different thing. It was
like, yeah, it was avery wild West to Gla style filming and
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yeah, everything was, um,it's a lot less. It's still pretty
guerrilla style filming. I'd say,well compared to equipment, I guess you
know we're our equipment is better.Yeah, I mean I was shooting on
DV tape back then too. Yeah, I mean it's funny how it's still
is like no different, like theway the videos are made, like we're
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like I'll write it and then likeyou know, I mean you guys help
like a ton on the editing andeverything, but like a lot of it
is like you know, I'll writeor sometimes I'll get to a part like
oh I can't get past this partum Kieran six or whatever it was like
that was a bad one. Orlike you'll do some research like on Green
Dog justin you found that whole thingabout how the music like matched some other
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song and like you did this Bodo, wasn't it? A Joe from Game
Sack Too was like on that too. Yeah, yeah, you guys were
like talking about it. Yea Gamesacloves Green Dog, Green Dog. Yeah.
Yeah. My favorite episode I thinkis still the rob the Robot one.
It's episode one hundred. Um.I think I like that one because
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it was a story and uh,the dialogue with the robot was really funny
and um, you know, itwas such an unusual video game peripheral,
like there's I can't really think ofmany other like things like that. It
was kind of like I think itwas one of the first NIS games Gyromite,
Like I remember that robot as akid. I never actually had the
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chance to play it, but Iknew I had. I think my cousin
actually, I think he told meabout like, oh yeah, we got
up play this game with the robot. I'm like, what do you mean
to play the game with the robot? Like what is that? But um,
there's too many episodes to count reallybecause there's a lot that are hard
to decide because they The Mega Manone is really that one's kind of special
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because it's more like a it's kindof like a flashback sort of thing where
I go back into the old episodes, so that that's a really like self
reflecting episode, not as its ownthing as much. That's why I kind
of that's why I think Robed theRobot wins, because that one's more self
contained. But I also really likelike the Barren Stain Bears one. Yeah,
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I was looking at that again recentlybecause I was editing together some of
these clip collection things and I wasdoing I was adding to the Gaming Conspiracies
one because we did a top five, but now I made it into a
top ten now because there's been moresince the whole thing about the Barren Stain
baron Stein thing, and then likethere's like two nerds and all the complicated
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plot just keeps getting more and morecomplicated as it goes on. I was
like, you aren't big at that. Yeah, I really like went nuts
with that with four James. It'slike so confusing to like explain. That's
one of the things I like iswhen you start doing those weird like the
what was it? Um there's youdo it in the Hong Kong ninety seven
one, where you start going intothe weird convoluted like connecting the dots kind
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of Mario three when it's like,what is like what is the P stand
for possession? Yeah, it's like, oh and it's like such a stretch.
Yeah, that everything with Hell andit's like it looks like there's a
heart around Hell. This game lovesHell. And like then it's like there's
five things in the pe meter.There's that like the atl and all them.
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A fan came up to me ata convention and he had a picture
of Mario that that I signed orsomething. He said, hey, James,
look there's six bumps on his mustacheand he was right, yeah,
and then he counted six to somethingelse and six another thing and it was
like he found a six six sixwow picture. So it's like the fact
that it inspired people to like golook for that. Yeah, and that
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episode had the backwards message in it. Actually, um, somewhere, I
think it wasn't anything interesting. Itwas just a line from the Extor system.
It was like like your mother's xcox in hell or whatever. Yeah,
yeah, not to bring up somethingkind of weird, but something it
was. It was so um,I was streaming last night and um,
there's this there's this tag team I'mgonna tell the world about this because it's
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interesting. But it's kind of likean inside joke with some friends of mine.
But it's also I showed it toyou too. Yeah, I know,
I know what you're talking about.It is very interesting. So because
at first I'm like, okay,sure, a backwards message, because because
I've heard all the you know,the led Zeppelin backwards thing. Yeah,
and you'll listen and you're like,you know, it's you got to really
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listen. But this one, thisone's I think has validity. Yeah.
So there's this tag team from WCW. I believe it's it's the American Males.
But so they have the greatest themesong in history of the American Males,
Americ American Males Americans. If youif you haven't ever heard it,
just look it up real quick.But the thing is when you play when
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you play their theme song backwards,uh, it says slam your Grandma,
Slam your Graham, Slam your grandma. So me and my friend found this
like video straight up says slam yourgrandma. Like it's like slam. So
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if you say American Males here,I'm gonna say it right now. American
males put that backwards. It doesn'tdo it like that's something like it's like
American males slam slam slam. Butyeah, so I just not to go
on a tangent. I just wantedto let everyone know that the American Males
theme song from WCW goes backwards andturns into slam your Graham saying there's a
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bunch of hunky American males I wantto slam. Like. So the thing
was it was either like do theywant to slam your grandma? Like is
it like a sexual thing? Oris it like slam your grandma through like
a table or where is that?Because because when you first tell me about
You're like, it's this wrestling team. I'm like, well so slam,
Like isn't that like a you know, a wrestling move like the slams like
a body slam. So I justthought I was like, Okay, well,
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then that's that's intentional if that's reallythe thing. But your grandma,
because they're like, is there anotherwrestler called Grandma or something like here he
comes rude waiting four hun Grandma.Like it's like this dude, just I'm
Grandma, because isn't there like awrestler who like dresses like a baby or
something, or I think there wereYeah, there was this one. Yeah,
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there was like a there was BeaverCleavage, who was like he came
out with like a fucking one ofthose propeller hats and show and stuff like
that. And there's the shock Master. There's a lot of dumb shit,
the shot and the gobbledee googer,like, um, slam your grandma.
It sounds like a pay per viewevent. Yeah, slam your grandma.
Your grandma. If you google AmericanMales theme, slam your grandma and it's
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someone the thing was. There usedto be a whole like there was a
video that you could just find onYouTube of it, and that was the
thing was Like me and my roommatewe used to just listen. We used
to use that theme in a lotof our projects because the American Males theme
is fucking hilarious as it is,and it's like a ridiculous theme. It's
it's one of the most ridiculous themesin wrestling history. But we found like
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a thing and it says American Malescontains hidden anti elderly message, and that
was the name of the video.And then you watch it, it's just
slam the grandma. And who decidedto put it backwards? That's what I'm
wondering. Who's the first person tothink to do that? Dude, That's
what That's what I don't understand.It's like they were like, I wonder
what it sounds like. Maybe theywere just messing around, probably like got
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stoned and did it or something likethat. And then and then they're like,
well, it sounds like slam,but it really straight up sounds like
slam your grandma. I guess speakingof that, to go back on topic,
there we go off. I didreally like the wrestling episode, yeah,
yeah, because I think that wasone of the first ones we were
heavily. That's the first one thatwell, I I yea yeah, because
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you know a lot about wrestling andI don't know a lot about that.
And I remember I remember before wedid that when I was like, we
need somebody who knows a lot aboutwrestling just to help out. And I
think we were talking at too manygames about yeah, yeah, what I
was thinking. Justin called me andsaid like, do you want to do
and I was like, yes,please, I was dude, I was
not I had no job. Iwas like, I was, Yeah,
I was a working at a youknow, as as some people might know.
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I was working at a video storefor mom's and dad. Yeah,
movies for moms and dad's. Yeah, that's what I was like selling basically
in like North Philly. It wasa it was a it was a fun
time. Yeah, it was good. And then they gave me the call.
I got the call. They theylike yeah, and I was like,
I got you, and I camein and I lent my wrestling knowledge
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and his history. Yeah you know, you don't take it for granted,
like you've always told me that youreally love Oh my god. Yeah no.
It was like I mean, Iwas trying to like I was always
doing stuff and like you know,I was always doing video work. I
was doing a lot of like freelanceanimation for people. I had a public
access television show. That's actually howI got to meet you the first time.
When I was doing public access andI was filming a show for Philly
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cam Channel sixty six and I cameto too many games because too many games
was like, wow, you havea television show, sure, And I
was like, yeah, no onewatches it. And I haven't made one
episode yet, but okay, speakof too many games. I actually want
to. I want to do itlike some sort of ABGN charity prop auction.
Yeah yeah, because we still havethe fucking suit. We did a
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huge like for the movie, wedid a huge one in twenty sixteen,
and that was like all the majorprops for that we're given up. And
there's a lot of stuff from episodestoo. Yeah, it was like all
done in this one auction. Andit was like in person too, like
we did it at a place.It was at Sellersville. Yeah, I
Selver's auction. Yeah, I knowyou're talking about. But anyway, after
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that, I was like, oh, man, like I don't know if
I have anything left, but butI actually do, like because we've there's
a lot of stuff we have.Yeah we have t one thousand PEPSI man,
oh yeah yeah without a head though. I have a lot of like
duplicate games too, but they're notlike games anybody we want, they're like
CDI stuff And oh my god,I know we have a piece of the
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Las Vegas set upstairs from the ABGMmovie left. How did that get back
here? Came back into our lives? I've tried so hard to get rid
of those things because like because theywere they're big. Big props are hard
to get rid of. I learnedbecause in sn S box, like I
was telling you about, Oh thesuit, the suit that's just been sitting
on top of our warehouse since weshot. What are we going to do
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with that? It's the wrestling cartridge, the one that's a Saturday Night Slam
or was it WCW. Yeah,Superman, Yeah, we have that.
We have the robot nerd helmet actuallymade Adam's. Yeah, oh she made
both of us. Yeah, shemade him a tiny ninja ja. Yeah,
she made that thing. And Iremember like getting the call because I
had to go pick it up alot of stuff. Yeah, she she
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called me up. Was like freakingout, like it's not good. It's
it's so bad. Oh my god, it's like and I had to go
pick it up. And I wasjust like, you know, it was
great, and that's the thing.Like I'm getting there. I'm like,
oh my god, here we go. I'm gonna go pick it up.
And I saw it and I waslike, holy shit, like this thing's
awesome. I was like, it'sit's straight up like and the only problem
was I couldn't fit it in mycar. That was the only thing.
So then I had to call upI think Tony had to come and like,
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yeah, he had to bring hiscarver. So that was the only
problem was the way it was madeout to be. It was like it
was always going to be and itwas. It was like one of the
coolest things I'd ever seen. AndI think we talked about this at the
panel the other day we did atRetro World Expo, but just about you
know, our favorite Davy GM's episodes, not based on if we liked him
or not, but the ones wecreated ourselves. And we're talking about wrestling,
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we're talking about doing like when Idid the spawn clown thing, that
was a lot of fun. Likeacting in things is cool and doing makeup
and effects. And I know AVGNis really about you your opinions of the
games and having a really good timeat it and having making a good video,
passionate video for the audience and stuff. But yeah, I definitely appreciate
it when we can do more skinnytype things. Yeah, I mean I
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also though, yeah, like Ithink during COVID we kind of cut down
on the in person stuff. ButI think we can get back to doing
some more of that in the yearcoming up. I don't know. I'm
thinking about I'm thinking about maybe anotherBugs bunny fight. I've been wanting to
do one like the Yeah, wellhere's the thing. I think it's gonna
be different. I have some ideas. I actually do have some ideas.
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I'm gonna run up by Mike.Yeah, do you still have that Bugs?
But actually wait, I think twoor there were two or three in
totals, because we auctioned one oneoff. Definitely at the twenty sixteen auction,
we can we could always get anotherone of them. Yeah. Yeah,
anyway, anyway, that's some futureideas. I remember when you were
in Karen. That was really funny. That just cracked me out was when
you played like you played Sean Conneryfrom My Last Crusade, Yeah, and
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tum writer, and that was letit go. There's no reason you need
to show up that. That's what'sso fun was coming out of nowhere because
we were watching a Last Crusade andwe went and bought like the suit for
it, like me, me andTony went and bought at one of like
a mall nearby, and like wehad to find a Sean Connery suit,
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and I was only Sean Connery becauseI had a beard at the time.
Yeah, but I was like,I like, I can't do with Sean
Connery either. I guess An AvganCannon, you're the nerds Father. Yeah,
for some reason, Like, yeah, I guess we don't. I
don't think we specifically say that.I was also the ogre, the sweaty,
skin tight ogre. Oh and theImmortal. Yeah. We were talking
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about Oh, we were talking aboutthat at Retro World Expo. Yeah,
that's a That's a big one forsure. Like that. That's when I
feel like we've talked about a lot. Ye did a whole commentary on that
one. Um, I think itwas me. But I told some of
the stories the scenes. Yeah yeah, um, like you like I relay
the story about the spider that.Yeah, I passed out on the toilet
because I was there at one point. I was like sitting there for like
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I think, yeah, thirty fiveminutes straight because I didn't come in into
like ten minutes into the episode.But you know, if we did three
takes that didn't make it that far, that's me sitting there on the toilet.
For like thirty minutes, and I'min this suit and I just started
like putting my head down and Ipassed out for a second. And then
I heard and I was like,oh, and I had to like jump
up and everything. And that's thething too, It's it's over my face.
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It was skin it was a skintight with these like teeth, so
I can't really even see that well, like when we did the fight,
like I couldn't see almost anything.I had just come out and be like
and I had to know where Iwas like standing the whole time, Like
as far as like having to runthe camera the whole time and not fuck
up anywhere to get all the wayto the end, and there's like a
thousand things that could go wrong.I mean, yeah, yeah, check
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out the commentary of The Immortal.But yeah, that was a very specific
mission. It was like, let'sdo an episode in one shot. I've
always I've kind of had this listthat we're going down where I was like,
well, I've always wanted to doa multiple choice episode like I Choose
your Own Adventure type thing where youselect which is the next video that loads.
I've always wanted to do a videowhere I where I scream fuck for
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four hours straight or something where it'slike it's like looped. The video would
already happen in the beginning, soit's all done, but then there'd be
an additional four hours of just mescreaming fuck at the end, and it
would loop and loop and loop becauseyou were you were showing me those um
Garfield videos a Lasagna cat, yeah, and they do these like yeah,
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these like ridiculous things. Some ofthem go on for like hours. Yeah,
and like this is so funny.So I thought of an idea that's
similar, but you know, verydifferent. Is just a long screaming fuck,
but then it wouldn't just be screaming, like certain things would happen during
it. Yeah, I'll just leaveit at that for now. Like maybe
one of these times I think it'sbad for YouTuber retension, but whatever,
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probably whatever it probably is, butthere will be someone who sits and watches
that entire Yeah. It is weirdto go down to checklist stuff, all
right, what AMYGM things do wedo? We want to do? Put
a game in lava check do thischeck like, you know, we want
to do the full up pool fullof beer? Did that an echo?
The dolphin. Oh yeah, thefirst underwater shot ever. Yeah. So
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you know it's weird to like,you know, being worried about, hey,
let's get let's do these fun things. But they are fun things.
So yeah, and I know wehave yeah, like to choose your own
adventure thing. I'm really into likea little short videos and they all spiral
off. It's style. But BanderSnatch yeah, the Black Mirror that was
cool. Or the Undertaker one.Oh yeah, they did one. It's
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like the Undertaker the Wrestler and thisthis team, the New Day. They're
like a newer tag team. Theygo into his house and have to escape
the Undertaker and it's a it's ause your own like, which way do
you want to go? Kind ofthing. Me and Tony talked about it
on on what's it called that?That show with Hack the movies. Yeah,
the show that's shot right over there, yeah over there. Yeah.
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You know, I'm looking forward towhat we can come up with next year,
and I'm looking forward to what youpull off for episode two hundred.
That's gonna be really interesting. SoI'm editing work to do. And let
me just tell you, let metell you you got let me tell you
Yeah. Like when when I wasdoing the Commodore one, I'm like,
Karen, just so you know,I'm gonna be dumping a lot of footage
on you coming up. No,I got that. I like, did
you give notes though while you're doingit? So I know like what I'm
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doing the whole time. I dopretty a lot of the beginning is just
me putting everything into folders and likelistening to what you're saying and then going,
okay, cool, I'm gonna putthat here. I know where this
goes, and I just name themthe things that they are, so then
like when it comes down to it, I just plug it all in.
The Halloween one was actually fun,yeah, with the stop motion because that
was the thing too. I don'tI've never edited something horror or with like
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a jump scare before, so toactually um the part where like Freddie comes
out, I got myself with thejump scare when I was watching it through
and I was like, okay,cool, like it actually worked. That's
actually one. Two to bring upanother the Halloween episode with Michael Myers that
you did, Yeah, where youhad that jump scare when you're in the
basement part that got me. Yeah, like that and that's the thing,
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like because the year before was theFreddie and Jason One's and they were they
were the review, but there werestill there were skits, but there wasn't.
The Halloween one was more like amovie with the review inside of it.
Yeah. Yeah, I loved thatepisode. It was just And I
guess that's also where you kind ofthen everyone expected that to be the norm
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almost afterwards, like you got tohave these like, you know, these
fucking masterpiece movies instead of just gamereviews. After a while, you know,
oh, I mean, I guessit goes either way. But because
because because a lot of people preferredit to be straight up game review,
so a lot of times I woulddo that and be like, oh I
just want to get back to thegame. I'm like, okay, Well
so then the next one, likebecause after that I think was dragons Layers.
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It was great. I love thedragons Layer. I like going at
the end with the door closes andyou just turn into a skeleton. It's
just quick. That was I rememberDragon's Lair was one I had to do
really quickly, Like that was likea few days. I was actually getting
married at that time. Congratulations onyour marriage. That happens like yeah,
but I just remember it being likeokay, um, like this this episode
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needs to get done really quick,and the dragons Layer made sense because of
the game. I couldn't get veryfar and yeah, it was really might
be worth doing again. Maybe that'swhat I was saying, like, if
you did to choose your own adventurething, you you could pick a game
like like Space Sace or whatever whereit is like you have to do the
right thing at the right time kindof a thing, but it's being transposed
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on what you're doing in the nerdroom also too. I mean I brought
it up two episodes ago, butthis Street Fighter two thousand and ten episode
is one of my favorites too.Oh nice just be because of all the
Street Fighter stuff into it, whichI didn't know about, like the whole
like Street Fighter eighty nine and allthose things like a final fight. I
remember it was a theme in thatvideo of getting sidetracked. Yeah, I
would just get off tangent like youknow a lot of times, like kind
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of like on the podcast we dosometimes like where it's like I'll be talking
about one thing, but they'd belike, oh, but then there was
this other street Fighter game and like, wait, what you're talking about that
movie version of the game, LikeI love that one though, but because
I like street Fighter also, sothat was like a really but I like
too when you walk out and you'relike I gotta get my mail and it's
like everything's and it's like, oh, it's twenty ten, you know,
Like that was that was a goodone. Yeah, I don't you know.
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The Earth Battle one people say isdefinitely one of the like really good
ones recently. I think to dateit's the longest one unless we two hundred's
going to be split into three parts, but uh, two hundred would beat
it as one self contained episode,which I think. I think it's gonna
be self con I think we're gonnarelease the parts and then kind of like
Polybius how it was like released inparts and then as one thing. Like
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I kind of want you to doFinal Fantasy six like you did Earthbound one
day because I think, you know, because I know you like that game.
Yeah, well yeah, bring thatup again, Yeah, just because
I love that. It's like,well, I'm my favorite, uh you
know, yeah, I don't knowif it's if it has as much stuff,
like as much nerd material because Earthboundwas just a weird game and had
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so much to talk about and howit was like this equal balance of like
what the fuck is this but alsolike wow, this game is like has
like a lot of depth to it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, No,
Earthbound was a colossal undertaking. Yeahit was six months or something.
I don't I feel like it wasprobably like an intensive like a couple of
months or something like six months ifI work leisurely on it. Yeah,
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but uh, I have to goback and look at my logs to see.
But like Earthbound was, it washuge or it might have been majure
because of how many, Like sixmonths and like Commodore sixty four was a
long time. But that's if youcount like back when I started recording them,
and then I take a break towork on like the other ones,
and then I go back to thatagain a little bit. So it's hard
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to count some of these because it'slike if you if you work and then
not stop, that's how long itis. But some of them are spaced
out, you usual. A lotof these I do in like one blast
where it's like they'll be like acouple weeks where like I'm not even answering
my phone as much, where it'skind of like you kind of go into
this headspace where like you're just tryingto get the episode done, yeah,
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and you kind of have to turneverything else off in order to just focus
on this this one thing. Sosome of those big episodes turn into that
for sure. The one you didof the four part Castlevania, yeah,
that was like really fun. Wetalked about doing that for Contra. Yeah
yeah we did. Yeah, yeahwith the Castlevania. I just love that,
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like that ending like montage of justall the like with the with the
with the ending theme to uh superCastlevania four, Like it's just like such
a good group of episodes and justlike all the like going through every single
one of the games that was That'sone of my favorite ones too. That's
definitely actually that might be like Iknow, I said Batman and all that,
but that was like that's just areally good those episodes were great.
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That's awesome. Yeah. A fanactually brought that up recently, like told
me how much they loved the wholeCastlevania four part thing and said, I'd
really love to see you do somethinglike that with another game. And then
like separately. You brought up theidea like how about doing like bad Contra
games or like, and then Ithought, I was like, you know,
maybe it'd be good just to dolike the first two Contras or something,
dude, something where you could channelthat same Like I remember playing this
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as a kid, and I'm gonnatell you all about what it felt like.
I mean, yeah, because like, like a lot of these games,
it's like, how many did Iactually play when I was young?
How many were like something that meantto me? Because a lot of these
it's like, Okay, Hong Kongninety seven, I never heard of that
game till you know, yeah,even though it made a great episode in
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a different kind of way, becausethe game was so weird. That game
is so fucking weird. Yeah,because I thought that the Contra one could
be a two parter where you justplay all the ones you remember and then
you play everything after, and youcould that is such an extensive because there's
you know, there's the arcade ones, then there's the any escorts. Are
you gonna go all the way withit? Yeah? I'm not sure.
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I feel like, yeah, doingbad Contra game, sure, who could
be good? But I also feellike talking about what you love about those
but doing it in the nerd kindof way, like it has to be
kind of like kind of like earthBound kind of like the Castlevania four part
actually more of that. That's reallythe model. I think the four part
Castlevania would be the model of howto do a Contra. Yeah, because
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you have you have the first fewCastlevanias. Then you have also like you
had the PlayStation in the Sega,then you had the sixty four, you
had you know, yeah, andthen and even touching on the Game Boy
ones and everything like that. Itwould I think that would probably be the
best because you want to talk aboutlike it's Arcade origins and then also the
any s ones and then there's thesuperintendent of Jenna's not worried about fucking rogue
core and all that. Yeah,screw that one. That game fucking sucks.
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But like no, like you know, there are games like like Contra
four for the DS, which islike straight up really awesome. That game
was that's my second favorite, Likeit's Contra hardcore then Contra four or those
are my top two. And rememberwhen Contra four came out and it was
I remember playing it at E three. Yeah, and it was like you
know, oh, look, they'regoing back to the old games, and
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like it was such a big Igot a DS for it. I was
super psyched about that game. Okay, you'll need to help me find something
that I can record with it.We we actually have a captured DS.
Yeah, we have. It's cool. I've actually been that was one thing
I wanted to actually stream Contra fourbecause of that. Because I've been cool.
I've been talking to people on likeon my stream about it. I
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stream every Tuesday, Thursday, Saturdayat twitch dot tv. S was Kern.
I've been talking on my stream aboutplaying that for a long time,
but I don't know how like itactually. I got to figure out how
it all works. But I wouldlove to play Contra four. I haven't
play that in forever. Yeah,it's great. I think we figure out.
But I'm definitely I'm saying like wehave a lot of good plans for
next year. Yeah yeah, yeahfor Contraum, that's definitely one. Like
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if we do the deep dive whereit's like all these contraumes, that's gonna
take a long time to make becauselike, yeah, like the Castlevania ones,
like I remember it was just likeI'm gonna play through all of them
and try to beat all of themto the best I can, and then
once you have all that footage,then you can finally start writing it.
So if we do the whole contractthing, it's gonna be nuts. Just
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saying yeah, but but but Iam looking forward to getting back to some
episodes that are just one game.Yeah. We have so many games coming
up soon too, after after allthe madness is done. But yeah,
yeah, yeah, so yeah,two hundreds coming up. I hope you
enjoy it, yeah, because it'sgonna be big. And thanks for being
a fan of all this, uhspeaking what you want to take one fan
Q and a question? Yeah,this is from Frank Bizoco. Have you
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gotten any better at landing the Ffourteen on the carrier in Top Gun or
would ever try that? And alsoin a flight simulator like Microsoft Flight Simulator
or DCS World which is a combatsimulator. I think some redemption is in
order, Okay, I think wouldbe really interesting. I like how he
said F fourteen on a carrier insteadof just saying land in the plane.
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Like I liked that he gave thedetail, so I have to commend that
it would be really interesting to getsomebody who was a pilot and actually say
like, how similar is this too? Is this anything anything at all?
Like yeah, exactly, Yeah,I think that would be good. Get
somebody who's a pilot, and it'dbe kind of fun to do it,
like do like a video or somethingwhere like you give a pilot a fucking
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Kenabi laser. He's like fire fire. Didn't you landed it with the U
Force? Was it was it?Oh? The power glove? That's right?
Oh yeah, I did the powerglove and then I think I did
one with did I do one withthe force? Because you did the U
force? But I think the Uforce U crack or you went past it?
Oh it goes out the window?No, the window one was that
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was the the revisited one. Yeah, I think you force. You just
crashed it, because I remember thefirst one was crashing. The next one
was the power glove land which washilarious when when you get it and you're
like, that's cool. Yeah.Yeah, a lot of people tell me
that too, that that's like aclassic moment that they really love. That's
cool. I always trying to rememberthat, being like, um, try
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to do moments that are similar,not the same, but like kind of
like like when I did it onZelda two, when I beat the game,
when I'm not looking at it,just talking with it, because because
in truth Zelda two, at theend, if you just duck in the
corner and keep hitting, you'll you'llwin, You'll beat Shadow Link. Yeah.
No, that's a good idea aboutdoing some kind of thing about the
plane landing. I had a lotof family in the military who I wish
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was still around. I mean,i'd be perfect. I had an uncle
who was in Vietnam and he usedto do some crazy shit, like if
he was alive today, like thestories you'd have to tell just insane.
I know a lot of people whohave um like the full setups where it's
like they're almost in like a sevenforty seven cockpit, like they build it
and they have all the things andthe and the rudders and the things on
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top, like they have the fullthing, so it's almost like you're landing
the fucking plane. I don't knowhow that works on like an AT fourteen,
it's like like a flight stick andstuff. But yeah, we filmed
that. A flight simulator for theAV gen movie when we were filming the
plane scene, so that was like, you know, it was kind of
like that. It was just acockpit. Yeah, I mean that's where
people go to learn how to fly. I'll think more about that. I
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think that's a really cool idea.Not that that's what his question was,
but I think it's time for someredemption, redemption for top gun. Road
to redemption. Well, let's seein the revisited one, what did I
say? I remember I showed theending of the space Shuttle and I was
like, can't let those fuckers goto base? Why is the end of
space shuttle? Yeah, but itnever happens in the mood? Is that?
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What's it called? Rick flies andjust bombs a space shuttle? It
might be a top Gun Maverick thatcomes out in ten years from now.
Yeah. Yeah, anyway, Yeah, thanks for watching all these years.
Looking forward to episode two hundred,so yeah, enjoy Yeah CENX Tuesday,
Bye bye. Thanks for listening tothis episode of the Cinemassacre podcast. See
(45:12):
you next Tuesday. Check out moreepisodes at cinemassacre dot com or wherever you
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two hundred episodes of Abgen out there, we've been sort of celebrating and reminiscing
on past episodes. So I don'tknow, I'm curious to hear what are
your guys favorites? And I'll tellyou mine, I guess, even though
I think I've talked about a lot, but still, hey, there's so
many. See it's hard. It'sreally hard to pick um. But I
(01:32):
could go on forever about them.So I don't know, let me see
what you guys have to say.First. First, I want to say
I have my phone out just becauseI'm gonna have the full episode list here.
I'm not just looking at my phone, but definitely like Off the Bat.
My first favorite Abgen, you know, because I saw it when it
came out, was TMNT, thefirst Ninja Turtles episode five, and and
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that's you know, and then youknow, people ask how did how did
you ever meet James or whatever?When that came out. I message you
about, you know, putting Deador the Better into the film festival.
I was running at my school ina across the river from Philly and all
that kind of stuff, but justwatching that Turtles episode because I had so
many frustrating memories of that game growingup. I was just like, Oh,
(02:15):
this guy knows what the fuck he'stalking about. This is pretty f
funny. Um, you know.So it's awesome eventually getting to work on
the NERD. I know Karen cansay the same stuff. But definitely my
first favorite episode was and probably oneit definitely my top ten was TM and
T. Yeah, that's that wasa big one because I mean early on
when it was so fresh and new, like that was each one was getting
a little more momentum. But Iremember that one was like a big breakthrough
(02:38):
one because probably because it was NinjaTurtles. A lot of people remember that.
But to this day, yeah,a lot of people tell me,
like, yeah, that was thefirst one I saw. I remember when
it came out, it was alittle more like like a controversial opinion because
I'm talking shit on this game thatwas like rated number one in Nintendo Power
for like month after month after month. It was like the top when they
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had that like top thirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the sales charts
and stuff or yeah, or likethe polls or I forget, I forget
if it was like a vote orwhat. But but anyway, I was
like, nah, no, I'mgoing to talk shit on this game.
Yeah. You know, even thoughI exaggerate a lot of that, it
um the points were valid. Itwas like, you know, those really
tough jumps and all that kind ofstuff. Those pissed me off as a
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kid. I mean the first timeI ever played that game was I got
run over by that steam roller inthe vie the first thing you do,
like you know, and that wasI think that's like how a lot of
people started with it. Yeah,it was just frustrating. Yeah it was.
Yeah, But as a kid,I don't think I complained about it.
I think as as a kid,I just accepted the game. Yeah.
But then as an adult, likeyou look back and you're like,
all right, you know, someof that was crap. And I never
(03:43):
had a concept of like a shittygame, yeah, until like when I
started watching all these videos and stuff, because I just you know, I
used to play whatever. Yeah,whatever game we got, the game was
bad. You just didn't really playit the next time where you didn't write
it again, you didn't get likemad, and especially it was one of
the games you owned, you hadto play it. Because you might not
get another game for months, youknow what I mean, like or you
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know, like I only got gamesat Christmas time. Really rarely did I
get another video game that wasn't apresent for my birthdayre for Christmas. So
it was you know, and Ionly you know, as a kid,
you only had one console most thenyou only had like maybe ten games throughout
that entire console's lifespan, and yourented a lot, like I rented games
from Blockbuster. But if that gamesucked, you were stuck with it for
(04:26):
a long time and you just hadto get good at it. Yeah,
what about you, what's your favorite? I have too many, like to
be as honestly, like, um, I got into the video is kind
of late, like not like superlate. But the first one I ever
watched was um, the first Ghostbustersone. Oh yeah, and that was
the first one I saw. Andit was like popping up on YouTube and
uh that was this was like earlyYouTube because you know, YouTube wasn't it
(04:51):
started obvious just a place that youcould upload yeah anything, It wasn't.
What was the first video on mytrip to the zoo? Yeah, it
was just people's vacation videos. Therewasn't like narrative content or anything or shows.
It just was every like I putmy homework on YouTube things like that
just to show my mom or whatever. But it wasn't the newest episode.
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The newest episode at the time wasTexas Chainsaw. Yeah. So then what
I did was I watched, um, the Ghostbusters one. I watched all
those, then I watched the TexasChainsaw one, and then I went back
and me and my roommate Jamie whenwe were in college that was back on
your website where the menu to watcheach one was like any s cartridge and
you would click on it yeah yeah, the power glove and when yeah it
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was, you put the mouse overand they would change, like you know,
we went I went through everything atthose The Bugs Bunny's birthday blow out
was was straight up the funniest fuckingthing I'd ever seen in my life at
that point. The second, likeeverything about it. I was like me
and me and my roommate were justlike fucking cracking up. When when you
ship on his face at the endand Bugs Bunny, He's like, oh
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shit, and it's just the shipis all we were. I never in
my life I showed that at ain a in a class I had,
um uh this thing called theories ofcommunication and it was about like television and
radio and all these things, anduh, we had to do a report
at the end of research paper.And I asked if he was like,
you know, if you have anyother things that aren't on the list,
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you can suggest. I said,well, what about YouTube? You watch
this? Yeah. So, soI had this teacher he was he was
his name was mister Youngman, andhe was really old. He was super
old like he was he was likeeighties, like high eighties old man youngman,
old man youngman, and uh heuh. You know. The whole
class was about like the the historyof communication in every form and that that's
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why we as people are are theway we are is because we can communicate
better than any other species on Earth, like an EPCOT spaceship Earth kind of.
Yeah. So it's so so,you know, everybody's doing their projects
and they're all fucking you know,they're talking about oh Marconi and these things
and the um and I got intoYouTube and we had to show examples.
So the two examples I showed waschocolate rain with Taizon day and I showed
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you shitting on bugs money, andmy teacher fucking died like in the in
the he was laughing in so insanelyand he was that scene. And I
showed the ending scene just where whereyou're flipping out and you're beating shit out
of him and he's crying in theand then the second you dump on his
face, his face was red andhe was like, oh my god.
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And he was just like, neverin my life did I ever think I'd
see someone take a shit on bugsBunny. My god, like he was
blown away by shitting on bugs Bunny'sface and very like yeah, and and
that's a yeah. He thought itwas like and this guy he was like
eighty something and he but he thoughteverything was like you know, he wasn't
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like um an a typical you know, you think a person who's eighty years
old to be like that's vulgar.Get that out of my class. He
fucking loved it, every second ofit. Think of chocolate rain. Oh,
he thought he actually was like,my god, his voice is angelic,
he said about Tason Day. Buthe liked the chocolate rain on beach
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body. Yeah, wow, itcame full. I actually thought when you
first said that, I thought youhad a theme, like, so these
are things that used chocolate. Iknow, I didn't even think of it,
just it was just at the time, chocolate rain was probably the most
popular thing, so I figured that'syou know, that was the first,
like I guess instance of like aviral YouTube video that that thing blew up
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when it happened, and then thiswas like you know, hey, people
are making shows on it and everything. But other than that, like you
know, bugs Bony's birthday blow out. But just to say something quick like
that, that's really like, that'san awesome story. I love hearing stuff
like that, Like lots of timesI don't really get to hear like what
people's experiences are like watching it.And um so that's always the best thing
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when somebody lets me know how howmuch they laughed at something, because usually
I just I make the video andthen I have to go right into making
the next video. It's not likeI really you know, like take enough
time to really digest anything. UmBut I always love anytime someone sends me
a message and tells me about howyou know, they they laughed really hard.
I mean, uh, somebody recentlytold me that the the football rant
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I did and the Atari Sports saidlike I laughed so hard my side hurt.
You know what he called Ryan doesthat all the time, Like where
are we like like a sports barduring a convention or whatever. We're like,
oh, guys like football football,Ye, we'll just go right into
it, like perfect. People weredoing that to me at MAGFest because there
was because you know, MAGFest happensin January, and there's a um in
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the hotel. There was sports onthe TV because I guess it's like,
you know, it's it's football seasonand everything. I guess, yeah,
yeah, it's like at least it'scoming up. I guess, so there's
football in there. And then Iwalked by and like like a bunch of
fans start chanting football football. Yeah. But another thing about the bugs Bunny
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one, like I don't think it'llever be as funny as that first punch
of bugs Bunny because you're not expectingit. Yeah. But the first time
I hit him, you don't knowit's coming. Yeah. But then the
rest of it it's like, Okay, that's a full on beating, and
that's what you know. The beatingat the end is so the kick through
the boxes and everything, We're like, oh, just kick him and the
slow through the boxes. Yeah,that was back when I couldn't even shoot
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on SlowMo. Actually just slowed thefootage down, so it's all choppy,
but you know it's it's also too. When you guys did the the what
was it, um Crazy Castle andyou guys released them the trailer for it,
I got super hype. It waslike bugs Bunny was coming back to
get his revenge. Oh he's likewhen he's like, I'm getting shit on
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the fucking face, like yells likethat killed me. Oh yeah. And
the rabbit poop when yeah, therabbit poop that's all balls. Yeah,
oh my god. Yeah. Ithink there's a controversial take on this one,
but definitely one of my favorite onesis the Chronologically Confused about Movie Sequels
and Titles. Yeah. I thinkpeople like that one. I say in
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the sense of like, oh,when you think of your favorite episodes,
like just because I like more ofthe history and the confused talking about things,
and um, you know if alllike the other movie reviews you do
or we do or whatever. Um, I just thought that one was good
because I know you did that one, then the other one, and then
we did the Kingdom of Arts oneand uh, you know I always like
that that series and thought it shouldhave been its own, like but you
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know, like because you know,because there like there was a there was
a path where like the Nerd likeyou like like like the Nerd Coop Review
other things that aren't Yeah, yeah, movies like you know you like you
know, like when you're talking aboutyour shitty drawer or whatever, you know,
you can frame it in that style. So yeah, I definitely like
that one because I kind of brokethe mold a little bit. I also
loved all the like the compilation oneswere always ones I like to like the
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CDI all three CDI episodes, theJaguar episodes were great. I was like
those ones. But also to Batman, Batan Batman, that's probably that might
be Actually, that's probably if Iwere to say, like which one Batman
one and two are the funniest thingsI've ever watched. There's a when you're
like, what's it called? There'sthis one part in it that we me
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and my friend You've always mentioned.It's like you're like, this game sucks,
got to give it the Batman treatment. But you do this like swivel
with your head when you're getting up. Yeah, it's this like sass you
give it. I remember I remembersaying it, but I didn't remember that
I did a sas Yeah, hewas like a sassy head swirl. We'll
put it in. But I doremember, like if I pick up the
game and each time I would Iwould, I would say it longer where
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yeah, I'm badman. Also tojust the joker Michael Taya coming in as
a joker, especially at the endwhen you're shoving the games up his ass
and it's like converse sixty four.It's the but and you're smacking it in.
That was just really classic shit.And I love the extended fight scene
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you guys did where you did eachscene. Remember, Yeah, because I
had all the DVD. I haveall I have all the DVD I yeah,
I think I think you have allthe Screw Attack ones you have screen.
Yeah, I have every single ScrewAttack DVD. I have this screen
and I bought them all, likeand then you guys gave me the blue
rays when I started working here.But yeah, and the everything pretty much,
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I you know, I was Iwas watching this, uh between this
and like Tim and Eric were thetwo things like me and my roommates just
were binging all the time in thedorms, Like we would just sit and
watch it all the time, andwhen a new episode came out, we
were in like the animation We're justlike always watching them, and it was
it was like a hype event.Oh yeah, yeah. We were like
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it was a big deal, Likethat was by my college. We'd have
them on the projector screen or likewe take over the concert hall or whatever
and just put a giant Davy jet. Yeah, you know, we put
other things up there like You're theMan now dog and just this ebombs world
fucking early two thousands ship. Butthat was the thing was I was trying
to like when when I was inanimation school, there wasn't you know,
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the prospects of pitching a TV showwas not like everybody in your college is
gonna like your your teachers are gonnatell you it doesn't happen, blah blah
blah. So but I saw likeYouTube, I was like we could do
this. Like me and my friendslike we were like we could get into
YouTube, Like we can make ourown shows if we just work on it.
So we were just all, youknow, stuff like I was into
like the whole when Screwtak was thething, I was posting all my stuff
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on there. I used to doartwork on there. Um, I was
always posting. I used to postin new Grounds. I've been front page
twice on new Grounds, so Iused to It was just like this was
a big thing to see, especiallywhen I first saw the Rocky episode and
you were running up the Rocky Stepsand I realized you were in Philadelphia,
and I was like, holy shit, because and you guys too when I
met I met you guys actually throughthe whole thing too, because you guys
(14:45):
were doing Underbelly and I ran intoJustin at at wizard World, and I
thought you guys were like in Texasbecause that's where Screwtak was at the time
or whatever. So when I sawyou guys, I was like, are
you justin Silverman from Underbelly? Likeit was big deal. Yeah, but
that yeah, because I know,because that's how I kind of got reconnected
to James, because we're like,hey, can I borrow that laser scope?
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We're making a Nintendo Man kind ofcostume. You know, we just
gotta rip James off a little bit. So if we're gonna do it we
should get the actual props. Sothat was cool and connecting on that stuff
because doing the screw attack stuff thatwas a lot. It was definitely a
lot funner back then. But youknow, still who you know shooting all
this stuff whenever, but it wasdefinitely a lot different thing. It was
like, yeah, it was avery wild West to Gla style filming and
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yeah, everything was, um,it's a lot less. It's still pretty
guerrilla style filming. I'd say,well compared to equipment, I guess you
know we're our equipment is better.Yeah, I mean I was shooting on
DV tape back then too. Yeah, I mean it's funny how it's still
is like no different, like theway the videos are made, like we're
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like I'll write it and then likeyou know, I mean you guys help
like a ton on the editing andeverything, but like a lot of it
is like you know, I'll writeor sometimes I'll get to a part like
oh I can't get past this partum Kieran six or whatever it was like
that was a bad one. Orlike you'll do some research like on Green
Dog justin you found that whole thingabout how the music like matched some other
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song and like you did this Bodo, wasn't it? A Joe from Game
Sack Too was like on that too. Yeah, yeah, you guys were
like talking about it. Yea Gamesacloves Green Dog, Green Dog. Yeah.
Yeah. My favorite episode I thinkis still the rob the Robot one.
It's episode one hundred. Um.I think I like that one because
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it was a story and uh,the dialogue with the robot was really funny
and um, you know, itwas such an unusual video game peripheral,
like there's I can't really think ofmany other like things like that. It
was kind of like I think itwas one of the first NIS games Gyromite,
Like I remember that robot as akid. I never actually had the
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chance to play it, but Iknew I had. I think my cousin
actually, I think he told meabout like, oh yeah, we got
up play this game with the robot. I'm like, what do you mean
to play the game with the robot? Like what is that? But um,
there's too many episodes to count reallybecause there's a lot that are hard
to decide because they The Mega Manone is really that one's kind of special
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because it's more like a it's kindof like a flashback sort of thing where
I go back into the old episodes, so that that's a really like self
reflecting episode, not as its ownthing as much. That's why I kind
of that's why I think Robed theRobot wins, because that one's more self
contained. But I also really likelike the Barren Stain Bears one. Yeah,
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I was looking at that again recentlybecause I was editing together some of
these clip collection things and I wasdoing I was adding to the Gaming Conspiracies
one because we did a top five, but now I made it into a
top ten now because there's been moresince the whole thing about the Barren Stain
baron Stein thing, and then likethere's like two nerds and all the complicated
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plot just keeps getting more and morecomplicated as it goes on. I was
like, you aren't big at that. Yeah, I really like went nuts
with that with four James. It'slike so confusing to like explain. That's
one of the things I like iswhen you start doing those weird like the
what was it? Um there's youdo it in the Hong Kong ninety seven
one, where you start going intothe weird convoluted like connecting the dots kind
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of Mario three when it's like,what is like what is the P stand
for possession? Yeah, it's like, oh and it's like such a stretch.
Yeah, that everything with Hell andit's like it looks like there's a
heart around Hell. This game lovesHell. And like then it's like there's
five things in the pe meter.There's that like the atl and all them.
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A fan came up to me ata convention and he had a picture
of Mario that that I signed orsomething. He said, hey, James,
look there's six bumps on his mustacheand he was right, yeah,
and then he counted six to somethingelse and six another thing and it was
like he found a six six sixwow picture. So it's like the fact
that it inspired people to like golook for that. Yeah, and that
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episode had the backwards message in it. Actually, um, somewhere, I
think it wasn't anything interesting. Itwas just a line from the Extor system.
It was like like your mother's xcox in hell or whatever. Yeah,
yeah, not to bring up somethingkind of weird, but something it
was. It was so um,I was streaming last night and um,
there's this there's this tag team I'mgonna tell the world about this because it's
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interesting. But it's kind of likean inside joke with some friends of mine.
But it's also I showed it toyou too. Yeah, I know,
I know what you're talking about.It is very interesting. So because
at first I'm like, okay,sure, a backwards message, because because
I've heard all the you know,the led Zeppelin backwards thing. Yeah,
and you'll listen and you're like,you know, it's you got to really
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listen. But this one, thisone's I think has validity. Yeah.
So there's this tag team from WCW. I believe it's it's the American Males.
But so they have the greatest themesong in history of the American Males,
Americ American Males Americans. If youif you haven't ever heard it,
just look it up real quick.But the thing is when you play when
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you play their theme song backwards,uh, it says slam your Grandma,
Slam your Graham, Slam your grandma. So me and my friend found this
like video straight up says slam yourgrandma. Like it's like slam. So
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if you say American Males here,I'm gonna say it right now. American
males put that backwards. It doesn'tdo it like that's something like it's like
American males slam slam slam. Butyeah, so I just not to go
on a tangent. I just wantedto let everyone know that the American Males
theme song from WCW goes backwards andturns into slam your Graham saying there's a
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bunch of hunky American males I wantto slam. Like. So the thing
was it was either like do theywant to slam your grandma? Like is
it like a sexual thing? Oris it like slam your grandma through like
a table or where is that?Because because when you first tell me about
You're like, it's this wrestling team. I'm like, well so slam,
Like isn't that like a you know, a wrestling move like the slams like
a body slam. So I justthought I was like, Okay, well,
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then that's that's intentional if that's reallythe thing. But your grandma,
because they're like, is there anotherwrestler called Grandma or something like here he
comes rude waiting four hun Grandma.Like it's like this dude, just I'm
Grandma, because isn't there like awrestler who like dresses like a baby or
something, or I think there wereYeah, there was this one. Yeah,
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there was like a there was BeaverCleavage, who was like he came
out with like a fucking one ofthose propeller hats and show and stuff like
that. And there's the shock Master. There's a lot of dumb shit,
the shot and the gobbledee googer,like, um, slam your grandma.
It sounds like a pay per viewevent. Yeah, slam your grandma.
Your grandma. If you google AmericanMales theme, slam your grandma and it's
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someone the thing was. There usedto be a whole like there was a
video that you could just find onYouTube of it, and that was the
thing was Like me and my roommatewe used to just listen. We used
to use that theme in a lotof our projects because the American Males theme
is fucking hilarious as it is,and it's like a ridiculous theme. It's
it's one of the most ridiculous themesin wrestling history. But we found like
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a thing and it says American Malescontains hidden anti elderly message, and that
was the name of the video.And then you watch it, it's just
slam the grandma. And who decidedto put it backwards? That's what I'm
wondering. Who's the first person tothink to do that? Dude, That's
what That's what I don't understand.It's like they were like, I wonder
what it sounds like. Maybe theywere just messing around, probably like got
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stoned and did it or something likethat. And then and then they're like,
well, it sounds like slam,but it really straight up sounds like
slam your grandma. I guess speakingof that, to go back on topic,
there we go off. I didreally like the wrestling episode, yeah,
yeah, because I think that wasone of the first ones we were
heavily. That's the first one thatwell, I I yea yeah, because
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you know a lot about wrestling andI don't know a lot about that.
And I remember I remember before wedid that when I was like, we
need somebody who knows a lot aboutwrestling just to help out. And I
think we were talking at too manygames about yeah, yeah, what I
was thinking. Justin called me andsaid like, do you want to do
and I was like, yes,please, I was dude, I was
not I had no job. Iwas like, I was, Yeah,
I was a working at a youknow, as as some people might know.
(23:41):
I was working at a video storefor mom's and dad. Yeah,
movies for moms and dad's. Yeah, that's what I was like selling basically
in like North Philly. It wasa it was a it was a fun
time. Yeah, it was good. And then they gave me the call.
I got the call. They theylike yeah, and I was like,
I got you, and I camein and I lent my wrestling knowledge
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and his history. Yeah you know, you don't take it for granted,
like you've always told me that youreally love Oh my god. Yeah no.
It was like I mean, Iwas trying to like I was always
doing stuff and like you know,I was always doing video work. I
was doing a lot of like freelanceanimation for people. I had a public
access television show. That's actually howI got to meet you the first time.
When I was doing public access andI was filming a show for Philly
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cam Channel sixty six and I cameto too many games because too many games
was like, wow, you havea television show, sure, And I
was like, yeah, no onewatches it. And I haven't made one
episode yet, but okay, speakof too many games. I actually want
to. I want to do itlike some sort of ABGN charity prop auction.
Yeah yeah, because we still havethe fucking suit. We did a
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huge like for the movie, wedid a huge one in twenty sixteen,
and that was like all the majorprops for that we're given up. And
there's a lot of stuff from episodestoo. Yeah, it was like all
done in this one auction. Andit was like in person too, like
we did it at a place.It was at Sellersville. Yeah, I
Selver's auction. Yeah, I knowyou're talking about. But anyway, after
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that, I was like, oh, man, like I don't know if
I have anything left, but butI actually do, like because we've there's
a lot of stuff we have.Yeah we have t one thousand PEPSI man,
oh yeah yeah without a head though. I have a lot of like
duplicate games too, but they're notlike games anybody we want, they're like
CDI stuff And oh my god,I know we have a piece of the
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Las Vegas set upstairs from the ABGMmovie left. How did that get back
here? Came back into our lives? I've tried so hard to get rid
of those things because like because theywere they're big. Big props are hard
to get rid of. I learnedbecause in sn S box, like I
was telling you about, Oh thesuit, the suit that's just been sitting
on top of our warehouse since weshot. What are we going to do
(25:52):
with that? It's the wrestling cartridge, the one that's a Saturday Night Slam
or was it WCW. Yeah,Superman, Yeah, we have that.
We have the robot nerd helmet actuallymade Adam's. Yeah, oh she made
both of us. Yeah, shemade him a tiny ninja ja. Yeah,
she made that thing. And Iremember like getting the call because I
had to go pick it up alot of stuff. Yeah, she she
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called me up. Was like freakingout, like it's not good. It's
it's so bad. Oh my god, it's like and I had to go
pick it up. And I wasjust like, you know, it was
great, and that's the thing.Like I'm getting there. I'm like,
oh my god, here we go. I'm gonna go pick it up.
And I saw it and I waslike, holy shit, like this thing's
awesome. I was like, it'sit's straight up like and the only problem
was I couldn't fit it in mycar. That was the only thing.
So then I had to call upI think Tony had to come and like,
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yeah, he had to bring hiscarver. So that was the only
problem was the way it was madeout to be. It was like it
was always going to be and itwas. It was like one of the
coolest things I'd ever seen. AndI think we talked about this at the
panel the other day we did atRetro World Expo, but just about you
know, our favorite Davy GM's episodes, not based on if we liked him
or not, but the ones wecreated ourselves. And we're talking about wrestling,
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we're talking about doing like when Idid the spawn clown thing, that
was a lot of fun. Likeacting in things is cool and doing makeup
and effects. And I know AVGNis really about you your opinions of the
games and having a really good timeat it and having making a good video,
passionate video for the audience and stuff. But yeah, I definitely appreciate
it when we can do more skinnytype things. Yeah, I mean I
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also though, yeah, like Ithink during COVID we kind of cut down
on the in person stuff. ButI think we can get back to doing
some more of that in the yearcoming up. I don't know. I'm
thinking about I'm thinking about maybe anotherBugs bunny fight. I've been wanting to
do one like the Yeah, wellhere's the thing. I think it's gonna
be different. I have some ideas. I actually do have some ideas.
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I'm gonna run up by Mike.Yeah, do you still have that Bugs?
But actually wait, I think twoor there were two or three in
totals, because we auctioned one oneoff. Definitely at the twenty sixteen auction,
we can we could always get anotherone of them. Yeah. Yeah,
anyway, anyway, that's some futureideas. I remember when you were
in Karen. That was really funny. That just cracked me out was when
you played like you played Sean Conneryfrom My Last Crusade, Yeah, and
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tum writer, and that was letit go. There's no reason you need
to show up that. That's what'sso fun was coming out of nowhere because
we were watching a Last Crusade andwe went and bought like the suit for
it, like me, me andTony went and bought at one of like
a mall nearby, and like wehad to find a Sean Connery suit,
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and I was only Sean Connery becauseI had a beard at the time.
Yeah, but I was like,I like, I can't do with Sean
Connery either. I guess An AvganCannon, you're the nerds Father. Yeah,
for some reason, Like, yeah, I guess we don't. I
don't think we specifically say that.I was also the ogre, the sweaty,
skin tight ogre. Oh and theImmortal. Yeah. We were talking
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about Oh, we were talking aboutthat at Retro World Expo. Yeah,
that's a That's a big one forsure. Like that. That's when I
feel like we've talked about a lot. Ye did a whole commentary on that
one. Um, I think itwas me. But I told some of
the stories the scenes. Yeah yeah, um, like you like I relay
the story about the spider that.Yeah, I passed out on the toilet
because I was there at one point. I was like sitting there for like
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I think, yeah, thirty fiveminutes straight because I didn't come in into
like ten minutes into the episode.But you know, if we did three
takes that didn't make it that far, that's me sitting there on the toilet.
For like thirty minutes, and I'min this suit and I just started
like putting my head down and Ipassed out for a second. And then
I heard and I was like,oh, and I had to like jump
up and everything. And that's thething too, It's it's over my face.
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It was skin it was a skintight with these like teeth, so
I can't really even see that well, like when we did the fight,
like I couldn't see almost anything.I had just come out and be like
and I had to know where Iwas like standing the whole time, Like
as far as like having to runthe camera the whole time and not fuck
up anywhere to get all the wayto the end, and there's like a
thousand things that could go wrong.I mean, yeah, yeah, check
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out the commentary of The Immortal.But yeah, that was a very specific
mission. It was like, let'sdo an episode in one shot. I've
always I've kind of had this listthat we're going down where I was like,
well, I've always wanted to doa multiple choice episode like I Choose
your Own Adventure type thing where youselect which is the next video that loads.
I've always wanted to do a videowhere I where I scream fuck for
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four hours straight or something where it'slike it's like looped. The video would
already happen in the beginning, soit's all done, but then there'd be
an additional four hours of just mescreaming fuck at the end, and it
would loop and loop and loop becauseyou were you were showing me those um
Garfield videos a Lasagna cat, yeah, and they do these like yeah,
(30:45):
these like ridiculous things. Some ofthem go on for like hours. Yeah,
and like this is so funny.So I thought of an idea that's
similar, but you know, verydifferent. Is just a long screaming fuck,
but then it wouldn't just be screaming, like certain things would happen during
it. Yeah, I'll just leaveit at that for now. Like maybe
one of these times I think it'sbad for YouTuber retension, but whatever,
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probably whatever it probably is, butthere will be someone who sits and watches
that entire Yeah. It is weirdto go down to checklist stuff, all
right, what AMYGM things do wedo? We want to do? Put
a game in lava check do thischeck like, you know, we want
to do the full up pool fullof beer? Did that an echo?
The dolphin. Oh yeah, thefirst underwater shot ever. Yeah. So
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you know it's weird to like,you know, being worried about, hey,
let's get let's do these fun things. But they are fun things.
So yeah, and I know wehave yeah, like to choose your own
adventure thing. I'm really into likea little short videos and they all spiral
off. It's style. But BanderSnatch yeah, the Black Mirror that was
cool. Or the Undertaker one.Oh yeah, they did one. It's
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like the Undertaker the Wrestler and thisthis team, the New Day. They're
like a newer tag team. Theygo into his house and have to escape
the Undertaker and it's a it's ause your own like, which way do
you want to go? Kind ofthing. Me and Tony talked about it
on on what's it called that?That show with Hack the movies. Yeah,
the show that's shot right over there, yeah over there. Yeah.
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You know, I'm looking forward towhat we can come up with next year,
and I'm looking forward to what youpull off for episode two hundred.
That's gonna be really interesting. SoI'm editing work to do. And let
me just tell you, let metell you you got let me tell you
Yeah. Like when when I wasdoing the Commodore one, I'm like,
Karen, just so you know,I'm gonna be dumping a lot of footage
on you coming up. No,I got that. I like, did
you give notes though while you're doingit? So I know like what I'm
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doing the whole time. I dopretty a lot of the beginning is just
me putting everything into folders and likelistening to what you're saying and then going,
okay, cool, I'm gonna putthat here. I know where this
goes, and I just name themthe things that they are, so then
like when it comes down to it, I just plug it all in.
The Halloween one was actually fun,yeah, with the stop motion because that
was the thing too. I don'tI've never edited something horror or with like
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a jump scare before, so toactually um the part where like Freddie comes
out, I got myself with thejump scare when I was watching it through
and I was like, okay,cool, like it actually worked. That's
actually one. Two to bring upanother the Halloween episode with Michael Myers that
you did, Yeah, where youhad that jump scare when you're in the
basement part that got me. Yeah, like that and that's the thing,
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like because the year before was theFreddie and Jason One's and they were they
were the review, but there werestill there were skits, but there wasn't.
The Halloween one was more like amovie with the review inside of it.
Yeah. Yeah, I loved thatepisode. It was just And I
guess that's also where you kind ofthen everyone expected that to be the norm
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almost afterwards, like you got tohave these like, you know, these
fucking masterpiece movies instead of just gamereviews. After a while, you know,
oh, I mean, I guessit goes either way. But because
because because a lot of people preferredit to be straight up game review,
so a lot of times I woulddo that and be like, oh I
just want to get back to thegame. I'm like, okay, Well
so then the next one, likebecause after that I think was dragons Layers.
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It was great. I love thedragons Layer. I like going at
the end with the door closes andyou just turn into a skeleton. It's
just quick. That was I rememberDragon's Lair was one I had to do
really quickly, Like that was likea few days. I was actually getting
married at that time. Congratulations onyour marriage. That happens like yeah,
but I just remember it being likeokay, um, like this this episode
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needs to get done really quick,and the dragons Layer made sense because of
the game. I couldn't get veryfar and yeah, it was really might
be worth doing again. Maybe that'swhat I was saying, like, if
you did to choose your own adventurething, you you could pick a game
like like Space Sace or whatever whereit is like you have to do the
right thing at the right time kindof a thing, but it's being transposed
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on what you're doing in the nerdroom also too. I mean I brought
it up two episodes ago, butthis Street Fighter two thousand and ten episode
is one of my favorites too.Oh nice just be because of all the
Street Fighter stuff into it, whichI didn't know about, like the whole
like Street Fighter eighty nine and allthose things like a final fight. I
remember it was a theme in thatvideo of getting sidetracked. Yeah, I
would just get off tangent like youknow a lot of times, like kind
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of like on the podcast we dosometimes like where it's like I'll be talking
about one thing, but they'd belike, oh, but then there was
this other street Fighter game and like, wait, what you're talking about that
movie version of the game, LikeI love that one though, but because
I like street Fighter also, sothat was like a really but I like
too when you walk out and you'relike I gotta get my mail and it's
like everything's and it's like, oh, it's twenty ten, you know,
Like that was that was a goodone. Yeah, I don't you know.
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The Earth Battle one people say isdefinitely one of the like really good
ones recently. I think to dateit's the longest one unless we two hundred's
going to be split into three parts, but uh, two hundred would beat
it as one self contained episode,which I think. I think it's gonna
be self con I think we're gonnarelease the parts and then kind of like
Polybius how it was like released inparts and then as one thing. Like
(35:59):
I kind of want you to doFinal Fantasy six like you did Earthbound one
day because I think, you know, because I know you like that game.
Yeah, well yeah, bring thatup again, Yeah, just because
I love that. It's like,well, I'm my favorite, uh you
know, yeah, I don't knowif it's if it has as much stuff,
like as much nerd material because Earthboundwas just a weird game and had
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so much to talk about and howit was like this equal balance of like
what the fuck is this but alsolike wow, this game is like has
like a lot of depth to it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, No,
Earthbound was a colossal undertaking. Yeahit was six months or something.
I don't I feel like it wasprobably like an intensive like a couple of
months or something like six months ifI work leisurely on it. Yeah,
(36:44):
but uh, I have to goback and look at my logs to see.
But like Earthbound was, it washuge or it might have been majure
because of how many, Like sixmonths and like Commodore sixty four was a
long time. But that's if youcount like back when I started recording them,
and then I take a break towork on like the other ones,
and then I go back to thatagain a little bit. So it's hard
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to count some of these because it'slike if you if you work and then
not stop, that's how long itis. But some of them are spaced
out, you usual. A lotof these I do in like one blast
where it's like they'll be like acouple weeks where like I'm not even answering
my phone as much, where it'skind of like you kind of go into
this headspace where like you're just tryingto get the episode done, yeah,
(37:29):
and you kind of have to turneverything else off in order to just focus
on this this one thing. Sosome of those big episodes turn into that
for sure. The one you didof the four part Castlevania, yeah,
that was like really fun. Wetalked about doing that for Contra. Yeah
yeah we did. Yeah, yeahwith the Castlevania. I just love that,
(37:50):
like that ending like montage of justall the like with the with the
with the ending theme to uh superCastlevania four, Like it's just like such
a good group of episodes and justlike all the like going through every single
one of the games that was That'sone of my favorite ones too. That's
definitely actually that might be like Iknow, I said Batman and all that,
but that was like that's just areally good those episodes were great.
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That's awesome. Yeah. A fanactually brought that up recently, like told
me how much they loved the wholeCastlevania four part thing and said, I'd
really love to see you do somethinglike that with another game. And then
like separately. You brought up theidea like how about doing like bad Contra
games or like, and then Ithought, I was like, you know,
maybe it'd be good just to dolike the first two Contras or something,
dude, something where you could channelthat same Like I remember playing this
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as a kid, and I'm gonnatell you all about what it felt like.
I mean, yeah, because like, like a lot of these games,
it's like, how many did Iactually play when I was young?
How many were like something that meantto me? Because a lot of these
it's like, Okay, Hong Kongninety seven, I never heard of that
game till you know, yeah,even though it made a great episode in
(38:57):
a different kind of way, becausethe game was so weird. That game
is so fucking weird. Yeah,because I thought that the Contra one could
be a two parter where you justplay all the ones you remember and then
you play everything after, and youcould that is such an extensive because there's
you know, there's the arcade ones, then there's the any escorts. Are
you gonna go all the way withit? Yeah? I'm not sure.
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I feel like, yeah, doingbad Contra game, sure, who could
be good? But I also feellike talking about what you love about those
but doing it in the nerd kindof way, like it has to be
kind of like kind of like earthBound kind of like the Castlevania four part
actually more of that. That's reallythe model. I think the four part
Castlevania would be the model of howto do a Contra. Yeah, because
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you have you have the first fewCastlevanias. Then you have also like you
had the PlayStation in the Sega,then you had the sixty four, you
had you know, yeah, andthen and even touching on the Game Boy
ones and everything like that. Itwould I think that would probably be the
best because you want to talk aboutlike it's Arcade origins and then also the
any s ones and then there's thesuperintendent of Jenna's not worried about fucking rogue
core and all that. Yeah,screw that one. That game fucking sucks.
(40:06):
But like no, like you know, there are games like like Contra
four for the DS, which islike straight up really awesome. That game
was that's my second favorite, Likeit's Contra hardcore then Contra four or those
are my top two. And rememberwhen Contra four came out and it was
I remember playing it at E three. Yeah, and it was like you
know, oh, look, they'regoing back to the old games, and
(40:27):
like it was such a big Igot a DS for it. I was
super psyched about that game. Okay, you'll need to help me find something
that I can record with it.We we actually have a captured DS.
Yeah, we have. It's cool. I've actually been that was one thing
I wanted to actually stream Contra fourbecause of that. Because I've been cool.
I've been talking to people on likeon my stream about it. I
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stream every Tuesday, Thursday, Saturdayat twitch dot tv. S was Kern.
I've been talking on my stream aboutplaying that for a long time,
but I don't know how like itactually. I got to figure out how
it all works. But I wouldlove to play Contra four. I haven't
play that in forever. Yeah,it's great. I think we figure out.
But I'm definitely I'm saying like wehave a lot of good plans for
next year. Yeah yeah, yeahfor Contraum, that's definitely one. Like
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if we do the deep dive whereit's like all these contraumes, that's gonna
take a long time to make becauselike, yeah, like the Castlevania ones,
like I remember it was just likeI'm gonna play through all of them
and try to beat all of themto the best I can, and then
once you have all that footage,then you can finally start writing it.
So if we do the whole contractthing, it's gonna be nuts. Just
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saying yeah, but but but Iam looking forward to getting back to some
episodes that are just one game.Yeah. We have so many games coming
up soon too, after after allthe madness is done. But yeah,
yeah, yeah, so yeah,two hundreds coming up. I hope you
enjoy it, yeah, because it'sgonna be big. And thanks for being
a fan of all this, uhspeaking what you want to take one fan
Q and a question? Yeah,this is from Frank Bizoco. Have you
(41:55):
gotten any better at landing the Ffourteen on the carrier in Top Gun or
would ever try that? And alsoin a flight simulator like Microsoft Flight Simulator
or DCS World which is a combatsimulator. I think some redemption is in
order, Okay, I think wouldbe really interesting. I like how he
said F fourteen on a carrier insteadof just saying land in the plane.
(42:16):
Like I liked that he gave thedetail, so I have to commend that
it would be really interesting to getsomebody who was a pilot and actually say
like, how similar is this too? Is this anything anything at all?
Like yeah, exactly, Yeah,I think that would be good. Get
somebody who's a pilot, and it'dbe kind of fun to do it,
like do like a video or somethingwhere like you give a pilot a fucking
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Kenabi laser. He's like fire fire. Didn't you landed it with the U
Force? Was it was it?Oh? The power glove? That's right?
Oh yeah, I did the powerglove and then I think I did
one with did I do one withthe force? Because you did the U
force? But I think the Uforce U crack or you went past it?
Oh it goes out the window?No, the window one was that
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was the the revisited one. Yeah, I think you force. You just
crashed it, because I remember thefirst one was crashing. The next one
was the power glove land which washilarious when when you get it and you're
like, that's cool. Yeah.Yeah, a lot of people tell me
that too, that that's like aclassic moment that they really love. That's
cool. I always trying to rememberthat, being like, um, try
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to do moments that are similar,not the same, but like kind of
like like when I did it onZelda two, when I beat the game,
when I'm not looking at it,just talking with it, because because
in truth Zelda two, at theend, if you just duck in the
corner and keep hitting, you'll you'llwin, You'll beat Shadow Link. Yeah.
No, that's a good idea aboutdoing some kind of thing about the
plane landing. I had a lotof family in the military who I wish
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was still around. I mean,i'd be perfect. I had an uncle
who was in Vietnam and he usedto do some crazy shit, like if
he was alive today, like thestories you'd have to tell just insane.
I know a lot of people whohave um like the full setups where it's
like they're almost in like a sevenforty seven cockpit, like they build it
and they have all the things andthe and the rudders and the things on
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top, like they have the fullthing, so it's almost like you're landing
the fucking plane. I don't knowhow that works on like an AT fourteen,
it's like like a flight stick andstuff. But yeah, we filmed
that. A flight simulator for theAV gen movie when we were filming the
plane scene, so that was like, you know, it was kind of
like that. It was just acockpit. Yeah, I mean that's where
people go to learn how to fly. I'll think more about that. I
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think that's a really cool idea.Not that that's what his question was,
but I think it's time for someredemption, redemption for top gun. Road
to redemption. Well, let's seein the revisited one, what did I
say? I remember I showed theending of the space Shuttle and I was
like, can't let those fuckers goto base? Why is the end of
space shuttle? Yeah, but itnever happens in the mood? Is that?
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What's it called? Rick flies andjust bombs a space shuttle? It
might be a top Gun Maverick thatcomes out in ten years from now.
Yeah. Yeah, anyway, Yeah, thanks for watching all these years.
Looking forward to episode two hundred,so yeah, enjoy Yeah CENX Tuesday,
Bye bye. Thanks for listening tothis episode of the Cinemassacre podcast. See
(45:12):
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