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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
That's right, ladies and gentlemen, this is tag team partner
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And welcome to our wrestling podcast, our soap roper that
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our favorite special edition of our show. It is our
back in Time session, ladies and gentlemen, because we're hopping
back into our wrestling DeLorean as we're headed back to
June of nineteen ninety three. Ladies and gentlemen, we are
covering King of the Ring in Ohio, Dayton, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
That it was, Yeah, the heartline of America is they
called it a thousand times throughout that show. But we'll
get into that a little bit later. But first we're
going to get into some unfortunate news that took place
this past Monday on Raw as Live Morgan and she
was about to have a match with Kyrie Zane. Literally,
in the first exchange they had in the match, Live
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Morgan had to step out of the ring and holding
your shoulder, and as a result of this, the match
had to be stopped. And it's since been confirmed that
Live Morgan suffered a dislocated shoulder and she could be
out for up to six months.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah. Man, I was watching Raw Live that day, and
I was watching the match and it ended so abruptly.
You know, it was a bit you know, shocked, but sorry,
it was kind of shocked about what happened and everything.
But I mean, I was really concerned about liv Morgan
and I saw the photos of you know, for injury,
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and I was like, man, oh my god, that sucks. Man,
felt so bad for her and just we hope for
a speedy recovery. Really, just a bad time to get hurt,
especially in a storyline that she's involved in with Roxanne Perez.
And also you're still the current you know, tag team
champions along with Roquel Rodriguez. So it really sucks though,
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but injuries do happen in this business. It happens, but
it really sucks.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So yeah, this is the worst possible timing for this
injury to go down because she's not just in that
storyline with Roxanne Perez, She's in multiple storyline She's in
that one, she's in the one that Nikki Bella that
just popped off last week. Yeah, she's also in one
involving Ego Sky. They had a segment together on Rob
Monday to open the show before the whole injury took place.
(03:03):
So yeah, she was wrapped up into a whole bunch
of stuff going into the summer, and like right when
it's about to start and really pop off, she gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah. Yeah, man, it was just a nasty oh man,
just a nasty photo. I saw it. Man, this this
located her shoulder like that. Man, it's oh man, I
feel bad for her overall. Yeah, overall, this was one
of as a show of an episode of Raw that
this past Monday overall is one of the really good
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episode of Raw.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, it was a good episode overall. But let's like
kind of dive into the Lib Morgan thing a little
more so. Initially they weren't sure, like exactly how long
it was gonna be. But like now since the reports
that came out yesterday, it's seeming like it's the worst
case scenario where she'll be out for up to six months.
So that means she's out of evolution, she's out of
Summer Slam in her home state of New Jersey, which
I'm sure also is gonna be a heartbreaker for her.
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So yeah, from that timeline, it's looking like now she
probably won't be back for the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, when I first heard about it, I mean I
thought she They said like three to four months at first,
so now you're saying six. So but at the end
of the day, you know, we just got to hope
for her speedy recovery for her, it really sucks that
she's gonna miss all this time, especially you know during
the summer, you know, you got Summer Slam coming up,
and and also with the multiple storylines that she's involved in,
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you know, and it's just it's it sucks, but it's
bad timing, you know, and again stuff like this, it happens.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, but now that she's out, the only logical like
idea I can come up with for what they do
while she's gone, and they do a storyline kind of
like the one they did with her in Dominic last summer,
where with her being out injured with a shoulder injury,
kind of the same thing that happens to Rio Rock
sand Rev starts trying to get with Dominic and starts
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like putting the moves on Dominica over the next few
months to the point where like you're kind of constantly
in that direction. And also in addition to that, I
could see her possibly taking Live's place as Raquel's partner
so that Raquel doesn't have to relinquish the titles.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And that would be a very interesting thing because I
could see that we both know, we both know how
Raquel Rodriguez feels about rox and Perez, so that that
would be very interesting. Also another interesting thing, how they
could do a storyline where you know, Roxane Perez is
going after Yoe Sky for the title.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, because Rox and Perez is one of the final
four in the Queen of the Ring tournament, which will
Di didn't do in the couple of minutes. But yeah,
I could see them doing these kind of storylines with
Live being gone, and honestly, if they do go in
that direction, I definitely see Live Morgan coming back as
a babyface and with the timeline if she is out
for that long, she is the clear favorite to win
the World Rumble next year.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, I could see that happening, and this would but
like I said, you know, with this whole thing going on,
this really opens up like a bigger door for Rocks
and Perez with the potential things that we could sum
up for her, you know what I mean. It is
really good for her in this position though, But what
she just mentioned about the Live Morgan, about her you know,
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being hurt, and with these possible scenarios that could happen
for Rox and Perez, Yeah, I could definitely see Lift
Morgan coming back as a babyface, and it depending on
what time of the year when she comes back, pretty
much will be the end of this year. Yeah, she
could be a clear cut favorite to win next year's
Women's roy rumble.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, but I just wish you were a speedy recovery.
Really thinking about her, I really feel for her with
this whole situation right now. It sucks the worst timing.
She was like, she was really chilling it. I even
said that ever since she lost the title, she's maintained
her popularity and anything got even better since she lost
the title. And yeah, it just sucks that, you know,
everything's all falling apart the way it has. But I
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really hope she gets well soon. And yeah, really feel
for it.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Wishes out to go to her.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I hope she gets better man.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Yeah, me too. But in any of them. We had
other stuff go down on rob this past Monday, which
also featured a celebration of the new World heavyweight champion
Gunther and that celebration was quickly interrupted by Goldberg. We
got a great reaction, actually got a really great reaction.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, but there's something that kind of rubed me off
the wrong way when I first saw that, and I
was like, Okay, last week they had me or pretty
much everybody else guessing on why they took the title
of ju so so early, had us guessing because is
it because of his MIC's skills or just what is
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what's going on? Is the lack of self confidence at
the company? Season them? What is it? What's going on?
And then when I see this and they're like, they
literally took the belt off of Jayu So just so
they could work a program between Goonther and Goldberg for
the title. Yeah, a low key rubbed me off the
wrong way just a little bit. Like I understand that
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they needed to resolve their issues from last year from
bad Blood. I get that, but the fact they had
to do that for the title and it just it
kind of rubbed me off the wrong way a little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah. I mean, I don't mind going through being the
champion again, I'm not against that, but I don't think
going through and Goldberg needs to be for the title.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
No, no, it doesn't. And then I get it, They're
having Saturday Nights main event in Atlanta, and so was Evolution.
I get it, but I just look like you said,
I don't mind having a title back on Goo. It
looks good on him, like I love it. But it
was just like they did all of that get the
title off of jay Usso for fifty one days just
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said he could do this.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, and admittedly, so Rakishi had every right to kind
of go off a little bit the way he did
about Oh yeah, title rain added to abruptly. I mean, granted,
I'm happy he got the title. I'm happy guy his
moment and all that, had the run he had the
first half of the year. But to be honest, when
you look back at his title reign, it was clear
that they did not have really any faith in him.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
No, I mean, like, and look, his last couple of
title defenses that he had didn't end in a poetic way.
There was always a somebody interfering. There was no clear cut,
clean finish, you know. The only outside of Goonther, the
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only like storyline that he had with somebody who was
low Paul.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, he didn't even have a pl title defensive that either.
That was also weird.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
But anyway, Yeah, so Goldberg came out, he confronted going Through.
He congratulated him, but he also said that he didn't
forget about that whole situation that happened at Bad Blood,
and he said it started in Atlanta and he's gonna
put an end to it in Atlanta. And then he
told going Through that he's his and also he told
going Through that he's next, and after that it was
revealed that these two yes will face each other at
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Saturday Nights Made event on July twuelt for the World
Heavyweight title in Goldberg's hometown of Atlanta, Georgia, the same
place where he had thrown the whole Cogan back in
nineteen ninety eight. But this match is not going to
go down the way that that match did because I
easily see going Through wiping the floor with Goldberg, and
then we finally see Goldberg right into the sunset and
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he'll give us one last farewell.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You know what was gonna happen?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
What's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
So remember how remember when Kevin ash defeated Goldberg got
starkad Yes, Skullhall interfered. Yeah, so what's gonna happen is
that Goldberg. So Goldberg is gonna just spear goon Through, right,
But before Goldberg even spears Goonther, your your hero, your goat,
Brett Hart is gonna come out there and go with
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a stunt gun and stunt Goldberg.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Hey, anything's possible.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
If it did happen that way, you will love that.
You'll love that, admit it.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I just like how they put that whole compilation together
the amount of time all of Goldberg's last few matches
have lasted, and then Gunther responded to it and then
tweets saying, I guess I could spare three minutes.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's funny. Yeah, that's pretty much how long. His matches are.
Pretty hard. They're like, they're not even five minutes. I
feel like they're lesser than that. I think he got
the timing right, I know that for sure.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, so this match does not need to be any
longer than that. It'll be fine for what it is.
It's Saturday Night's main event, it's in Goldberg's hometown. It's fine.
At least they're not doing it at SummerSlam. They're doing
it on this show, which is pretty much a glorified
house show or anyway from our shows play out, So yo,
it's all good. Yeah, but we'll see what happens with that.
So yeah, that match is official. We're getting that at
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Saturday Night's main event. But the highlights of Road this
week were the King and Queen of the Ring tournament
matches and one which saw Oscar dance to the semi
finals in our first match back in over a year
as she defeated Raquel Rodriguez, Stephanie Vacour and Ivy Nile.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah. I was most hearing that she they brought back
her old theme song.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
They did bring back he ro old theme song. You
didn't hear it?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
That was good? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Honestly, one of the highlights of this match was seeing
Stephanie Vacoor do the Devil's kiss to Raquel on the apron. Yo.
That shit looks sick.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I know everybody was talking about that. I saw the
up close personal video of that too. That was a
great sight to see. Uh, I love those girls. This
is too many whole lists of women wrestlers, especially in
this year alone. I was just like, my god, it's
just like I it's a long list of so many
(13:18):
I like.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, it's ridiculous. But uh, before I kind of thought
I was gonna win here, I kind of like her
got to you know, battle it out for a little bit.
But obviously Oscar ended up picking up the win after
Raquel was attacked by Riear Ripley and laid out with
a ripside outside the ring, and that led to Oscar
picking up the win. So Oscar advanced to the semi
finals and she will face Alexa Bliss and then the
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other women's semi final match, we have Jade car Gill
against Roxanne Perez, and I think whoever wins that match
wins the tournament. Between those two.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know what, I I would like to see Roxane
Perez win this.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's very possible. She definitely could. Like I said, it's
between her and Jade Cargill, because I think if Roxanne
Perez advances and wins the tournament, you could go against
EO with SummerSlam. That'll be a pretty big match that
they could build it right, And also with Jade winna
I could see Jade and Tiffany Stratton having go match
with Summer Stand because they kind of teased that a
little bit in recent months, So they could do that
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at Summer Stand up with Naomi like lingering around with
the money in the bank brief case. Yeah, there's a
lot they could do with that.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah. It both sounds really great though, But if I
had to pick, I had to go with Roxane Perez
what I just alluded to earlier, because of the fact
that Live Morgan's gone and they could really start pushing
Roxane Perez now just pushing everybody's buttons, you know, Raquel Rodriguez,
how she feels about her, and then also getting more
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involved Dominic while Live Morgan has got similar to last
year We'll Live Morgan was dealing with Dominic while rear
Ripley was gone, you know what I mean. So there's
a lot of similarities that could do. And also this
could really push Roxane Perez further now because she is
again new, very new, the youngest one on the roster,
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you know what I mean, So this will be really
good for her.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, it could play out in any way. Jada also
wouldn't be against her winning either.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Or she's gonna be in a movie now, Oh really?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, I did hear something about her being in a movie.
It came out a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
No, so okay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Not sure what she's going to be like going to
film that or whatever, but we'll see how it plays out. So, yes,
those are the final four in the In the Ring
tournament and in the men's first round match this week.
In the main event, we had Seamus Russeph Bronson Reed
and also Jush So fresh off of his loss of
the World heavyweight title last week, battling go to the
semi finals. Yeah, it was a fun ass match, a
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lot of Shenanigans, a lot of interference from like Bron Breaker,
and then Sammy's Ain't came out to counter Bron Brager.
Then he got thrown over the announcetable for his trouble.
Then Pensa came out like that was brutal fraker and
then Bronson Reed looks like he's about to win the match,
and l A. Knight comes in and pushes him off
the top rope, and then Jay Usso ends up. Yeah.
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Then after the match, Seth Rollins comes out to try
to attack Jay Usso and then Cody Rhodes comes out
and faces off Rollins and then Rolins walks away and
then Cody and Jusso shake hands to end the show.
And it will be Jay against Cody in the semi
final match next week on RA and tomorrow night on
SmackDown it's going to be Sammy Zaying and Randy Orton.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
You got two hell of the matches coming up this week.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Man is.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Going to happen. But you know what, what bothers me.
I kind of wish that these two matches were on
the actual pl e at a at Night A champions though,
because I like that idea of having, you know, Russell
a couple of matches so you can get to the
King of the Ring Final, you know what I mean.
So it's the story of the endurance. So but hey,
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it is what it is. But man, a lot of
writing for both these matches. I can't wait. You're just like, man,
what the hell is gonna happen in these matches? Especially
with Cody Rhodes and Jay Usso wow.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I have to be honest. Between both tournaments, the men's
and the women's, this is the most fun the King
and Queen of the Ring tournament has been in years,
especially the King of the Ring Tournament. I feel like
it really feels important in a way it has not
felt important in years. Like it really feels like it's
a big deal. It's special, and with the final four
and the King of the Rings tournament, it feels like
anybody can win.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
I know, and it's just like, damn, who could win it.
It's like, and let's not forget you could still this
is you know, winning the King of the Ring and
you get a title shot of Summer sun. I love that.
So it's like I don't even know who to pick. Man,
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I just I love how they create this, you know,
optimism and all that stuff surrounding this man, and I
don't know who the hell to pick, just in general
as a whole. If I had to pick any of
the four men just to win the King the Ring,
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I feel like Sammy Zaane is the guy to do it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yeah. I agree. If I had to pick one out
of the four of them, I think he would be
the one I could see challenging for the title with
Summer Slim and really doing something with the story involving him.
So out of all four of them, I think he
needs it the most. Cody was just a champion for
a year. Randy Orten's already established how Randy Orton lost
in the finals last year. Jay Ouso just came off
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being the champion, so I don't really think he needs
it either.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That not only that, but he also won the Roar
Rumble this year, so it's like he doesn't really need it,
you know what I mean. It's not I'm you know,
it's cool that you're competing for it, but it's like,
do you really need it? No? You don't.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, And also I'm after really trying to see j
Usso and going through again. I feel like we've seen
that enough.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, so Sam, he's a and I picked a win
the tournament. We'll have our full predictions for King and
Queen of the Ring and for Night of Champions next week.
But that's pretty much how the tournament stands right now.
And we also have coming up this Monday on Ron.
Addition to that Cody and Jay Usso match, we have
for the Intercontinental title that Chicken Tender slug Dominic Mysterio
defending against aj Styles, And after a heated segment on
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rub between Becky and Bailey, we do have it official
for the Women's Intercontinental title. It's going to be Becky
defending against Bailey where Labra Vakiria is linking in the background.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Yeah, she's just kind of a little surprised that she's
getting a title shot backstage. So yeah, man, Rall is
going to be epic next week. Can't wait for it.
And yeah, I knew AJ Styles is going to get
his title shot pretty soon, especially you know, even before Backlash,
they were hinting at the fact that aj was going
to challenge Dominic for the title, and so he's finally
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getting the opportunity and I can't wait for it.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Actually, I stand corrected. That match between Dominic and aj
is not happening on Raw Monday. It's happening at Night.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Of Champions, not a Champions Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
My mistake. But the Becky and Bailey match is we're
going to be on rub Monday, and I think that's
definitely gonna and it's kind of disqualification and that's gonna lead.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
You're gonna He's gonna make a triple threat match at
New Champions.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well no, it's gonna lead to a three way either
an evolution or at SummerSlam. Oh not a champion, just
too soon? Okay, all right, but yeah, so that's how
things are looking right now as far as those storylines going.
We also have actually at Night of Champions as well,
Sean Cena and CM Punk. They had a crazy segment
on SmackDown this past or Friday where basically they were
trying to call like seeing, I'm sorry Punk a hypocrite
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for the whole Saudi Arabia thing.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Look, I think a lot of people are making too
much of a big deal about that. It was a
different time, different setting. Seem Punk was not with the
company at the time. Okay, you gotta just whatever. Just
let bygones be bygones is just slut, you know whatever
about it. Look, he's gonna like you. Look. Like he
said before when he first came back, he is here
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to make money, not friends. Okay. So if that means
that he's gonna go all the way halfway across the
country just to you know, to win the title, to
take the Tide away from John Cenner, then he'll do it.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So, I mean, we'll see how it goes. I mean,
he was still working in the company the last Saudi
show he missed. I don't know what's change between now
and then, but that's his prerogative. And also his Friday
on SmackDown, We're gonna see johnsena go one on one
with Ron Killings after Ron Killings attacked him multiple times
last Friday twice.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That was funny. You saw that altercation that he got
into Nick all this backstage.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, Sen was losing his dadn mind. And I would
like to say he's losing that title the Night of
Champions to Punk, but I don't see it happening. But
I'm enjoying what they're doing right now for the time
it's gonna last sadly. No, Yeah, I think Sena is
losing the title back to Cody, whether it's at SummerSlam
or sometime after, I think that's probably the eventual destination.
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Speaking of which, I finally got my ticket to Summer
Slam last week. I am officially going to Summer Slam.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
You did, you did? Congratulations? How much was their.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Tickets total for both nights? It was about eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Okay, So were you exactly what you're sitting in a
mid level.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Or like a like mid one hundred.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Section, Okay, not bad? So like, how much was it
like if it so if it was just for that
one night, when I'm assuming what would have been like
around like four hundred dollars, I guess yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Give her a take, it was total like six seventy.
But then with the taxes and like with the extra
charges and taxes to eight hundred.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It's not bad. It's not bad.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Yeah, I don't have to pay for it all at once,
so that also works. But yeah, I'm just happy that
I'm finally going to Summerstein for the first time since
nineteen ninety seven, and that same area also the Meadowlands.
That's where the first time last time, So it's going
to be a homecoming in that sense. First stadium show
i'm going to for WW since WrestleMania thirty three, and yeah,
I'm looking forward to it, and I'm looking forward to
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seeing how this card shapes up. As far as Cardi
B being the host, I have mixed feelings about that,
but who knows, maybe she'll end up surprising us.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Okay, you know, it just sucks, So I just wish
those those there were the prizes for wrestle Mania this year. Man,
that eight hundred is not bad.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, it's not. I'm curious to see what kind of
reaction Cardi B is gonna get.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Any thinking about that too much right now, I'm just
excited that that you're going to happy for you, and.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, I'm happy I'm going to. I could definitely see
Jalen Brunson and possibly Tyree Halliburton being in some kind
of match or some kind of angle there too, because.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Speaking of that, we don't know he's gonna play today.
I was hearing that he may play today or he's not.
I'm just it's it's a game time decision.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
If that's the case. I think the Pacers can kiss
it goodbye because the thunder are winning their first championship.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I know, after what after what I saw. I mean,
I really haven't been really keeping up with the finals though,
but I I was just watching just a little bit
of Game five. Was it game five? No?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah? Game five?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Game four?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Game five was the most recent game after the game
I was watching, yeah, Monday night.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Oh yeah it was game five. Yeah, just after what
I was watching a little bit of that, I was like,
this serious is over. I was like, you know, I
don't care who wins, honest, I just yeah, look the
games look like underwin that would be great for them.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Look the games have looked like they've been good from
like some of the you know, final scores I've been
seeing whatnot. But it's just not interesting with the two
teams involved, the markets, the lack of story really.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, just not that the market.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, no disrespect to either team. Both teams are great.
They made it to the finals for a reason. But yeah,
I have to be honest, it just hasn't been that interesting.
I'm sorry to say. It just hasn't been.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
It's it's not And look, if you're like just like
a Diehard backs Offen. You're invested in it. Cool, you
know what I mean. But like I said, dude, if
the Knicks were in this finals against the Thunder, all
I would have been locked in watching it because the
Knicks are in it, you know what I mean. So
you have a big market team that's involved in the finals.
(25:37):
It's a popular team in the NBA, you know what
I mean. But I think after what happened yesterday and Kurt,
you know where I'm about to go. After what happened
with the news that just broke with the Lakers, with
Genie Buss selling his team to Dodgers owner Mark Walter
for ten billion dollars, that literally just took over the
(26:02):
NBA news, and not just the NBA news, but the
sports news in general. The Bus family no longer owns
the Lakers, Kurt Well.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It hasn't been officially sold yet. They still technically own them,
so it's yeah, not official yet. But we'll see how
it goes, and we'll see how Game six of the
Finals goes tonight. If the Thunder end up winning or
by some miracle, the Pacers push a Game seven. But
if they do do that, it'll be the first time
since twenty sixteen finals that we do get a game seven, Yeah,
(26:32):
but I don't think it will be as epic as
that one was because that's a hard, hard one the top.
Even though Lebron said some kind of odd comments recently
about how like rings aren't as important as they make
them out.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Oh God, that's I'm I'm sorry, Lebron.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Lebron's an incredible player, He's definitely one of the goats
of all time, but just some of the things he
says and does sometimes, yeah, it kind of makes it
hard to move for him.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's just it's this weird because it's like even Stephen A.
Smith even proved his point was proven a point. It's like,
if you're it, rings is not in uh like an
importance for you, Right then, why did you leave Cleveland
to go to Miami to team up with Dwane Wade
and Chris Bosh, which he won two titles with, and
(27:23):
then after that you leave Miami to go back to
Cleveland with the intentions of trying to bring a championship
to the city of Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Right And it's just a weird thing to say because
of the fact that it's coming from him and the
fact that he has such a bad like one loss
record in the finals. Granted he still has four titles.
You can't take that away from him, but just now
one loss record he has in the finals. Yet it's
something you can't really ignore, you guys, you just.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Gotta get over it. Like, look like at the end
of the day, man, Like, not everybody's championship record is
going to be good or bad or perfect. It is
what it is at the end of the day. Hey,
you did win. You won four championships. You can't take
that away from him. You just you gottam Like, some
haters are gonna be like, well, you know he didn't
like but just who cares. I'm not gonna bash him
(28:17):
for it. I know my goat is Michael Jordan, and
it's not just because of the rings. Is because of
the fact that there's certain games in certain moments where
in crunch time he delivers, and that's the guy I
want to depend on. Mainly the Flu game. I set
that as a prime example of why Michael Jordan's my
(28:37):
goat when it comes to basketball. When it comes to basketball,
that game alone.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, that's definitely a fair reason why to pick him.
But as far as Lebron goes, you definitely go to
this era. I'll never say that he's not. He definitely
dominated the twenty ten specifically, but yeah, just some of
those things he says, like this and then that incident
he got into it with Steven A a few months ago,
certain things for the guys sometimes.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, I don't know which is with this With the
new ownership coming in for the Lakers, it's it's going
to be a bright future for for this team. I
know that for a fact because look, I I don't
like the Dodgers, but look, the owner of the Dodgers
really did like a lot of impresses work with them
over the past, you know, like several years. So with
the work that he's doing with them, you know, I
(29:26):
know that big changes are gonna are gonna happen with
the Lakers, and you have you have a rich owner
that's has the money, is willing to spend to get
big name players. So not just in sports and any
kind of ownership, when you ownership really counts. When you
have good ownership, everything else at the bottom falls down.
(29:47):
It turns out well, Just like with Russell, when you
have good ownership, everything else works well.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, and we'll see how well that works out. But
let's switch gears a little bit. Let's get into the
news about SmackDown, as it was announced a few days
ago that SmackDown will be going back to two hours. God,
July fourth, are gonna do a two hour SmackDown that's
gonna be taped beforehand for July fourth, and then it's
officially gonna go back to being two hours on August fifteenth.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Thank God, thank you that that well Man was. Yes,
you have look for any TV show like when it
comes to wrestling programming, when if it's like Live on TV,
you cannot do three hours, unless if there was like
a special, which they used to do back in the day,
(30:39):
where every once in a while will be a three
hour special. Oh cool, you know what I mean, every
once in a while, but not every week. I cannot
sit there and watch a wrestling program for three hours
when you got multiple commercial breaks in between. I can't
do it. I just said that's too long when it's a.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Plee yeah to be real, honestly, like smack Down, even
before they switched to three hours back in January, it
was still kind of hit and miss. But ever since
they've gone to three hours. Yeah, it's been for the
most part, not that great.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
I can't get in tune with it. It's just like, especially
look when you look at the age of demographic right,
especially for the Mels, right, you have a wrestling program
on a Friday night three hours. That's a lot of commitment,
especially that type of person that likes to go out
and do so that's kind that's kind of hard to do,
you know what I mean? Three hours man.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
But I'm but just in general, like even the shows
that are good, the smackdowns that are good, that three
hour time frame is still a lot. It's still drags.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Even with that, it's a lot of commitment.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Thank god, it's only temporary. We only have to deal
with it for a few more weeks and then it'll
be back to two hours and hopefully the show gets
better from there.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Thank you. I agree. I think all look, I think
all wrestling programs, if you're gonna have it on TV,
just two hours, that's it. You gotta remember, like TV
shows are just like multiple commercial breaks pos. It's not
it really isn't. I could get through a POE with
three hours, no problem, because it's a POE. But a
(32:21):
TV show is different.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, it definitely is different. And yeah, just three hours
of a show, even if it's a good show, with
all those damn commercials or whatnot, it drags like a motherfucker.
And luckily with smack Down it will drag like a
motherfucker no longer.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I feel like that's like the one little issue I
have with Raw on Netflix is that there's just too
many commercial breaks during their shows, especially during a match,
like they do it with every match. It's like they'll
go like a minute and a half into the match
and they're already showing a commercial. I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well, I rarely ever watch rod live these days. I'm
usually busy on Monday nights, so I don't have that problem.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Yeah. Yeah. Oh and even on the.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Pls that gets annoying too, Like on the PLDs and
do a bunch of ads and have the ads all
over the Yeah, that's also kind of annoying.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
True, Like, maybe you'll you'll see what I'm talking about.
I mean, hopefully there'll be an opportunity when you watch
ra AW Live. Yeah, you're you're definitely gonna figure out
what I've been talking about. Like it'll be every match
they'll be like a minute and a half into the match,
the match is like really going well, and then like, oh,
we're gonna show commercial like they did that during jay
us jay us So and gunther A lot. They were
(33:34):
like it was literally like a minute into the match
and they're already showing a commercial. I'm like, dude, like,
it's your world title match and you're you're showing a
commercial during your match. Come on, that's I was like, dude,
that's not good.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
All right, but it is what it is. But luckily
we don't have to do with this on SmackDown for
too much longer. Can go back to two hours and yeah,
we'll see all the show proofs from there. But my brother,
are you ready to jump? Who are wrestling Gloria?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Oh? Yes, indeed, ladies and gentle, let's head back to
the nineties.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yes, we're taking you back to June of nineteen ninety three,
as we are going to cover today the King of
the Ring from that year, very first King of the
Ring paper view with Jack.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yes, and nineteen ninety three was an odd year for
the WWE. There there's they're in a transition of finding themselves.
They're breaking away from the eighties from the new from
the golden era of the WWE. They're breaking into that
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new generation of the company where new, younger superstars are
coming into play and you're looking for the top guy.
And that top guy was Brett Hart, even though he
wasn't a champion because you had certain somebody who was
politiiccking who wanted to be the champion, Hulk Hogan. But
there was just an odd year. But when you look
back at this year, easily, hands down, this show was
(35:04):
the best. Was the best pay per view that they
had this year. Roy Rumbo was, eh, we know how
Russell MANNI nine was, SummerSlam was not good Survivor series,
but this event, yeah, this was the best one.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah that's not saying much, but yes, this was the
best pay per view that ww did that entire year.
And it was a damn good show. And the person
who made it a damn good show was the goat,
Brett the hit Man Heart.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Not did Russell not once, not twice, but three times
to be crowned King of the Ring and those very
impressive matches that he had, all three of them, which
we'll get into later, but before we get we dive
into this event. Man, when I just think about the
whole year in nineteen ninety three, man, Paul, culture and
the life itself. Man, I'm not trying to shun the
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other past years or the year I was born in
nineteen ninety I just felt like that year nineteen ninety
three really set the tone of that decade when it
comes to pop culture, man, because it's so much happened
in that year where stuff that happened that started is
kind of like still going on this right now, Like
(36:20):
I don't even know where to begin. Like Monday Night
We're all started January nineteen ninety three. That's still going on.
The Power Rangers started in nineteen ninety three. It's still
talked about people my age or older, you know what
I mean. Jurassic Park was like the hit movie that year,
(36:44):
and they're still making like a new Jurassic Park movie
is about to come out next month. It's freaking crazy
still though, regardless if you don't want to watch it
or not, it's still it's a movie that still talk
about to the point where still making him regardless of
funny how you feel about it.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's funny that you bring up Jurassic Park because I
actually saw it in the theaters the weekend of this
King of the Ring.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
When that movie came out, because we already know that
was the number one movie that month, there's no debate.
I mean, come on, I was like I was supposed
to move the year.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, it was at Last Action Hero. That's stopping.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Cliffanger was like number two?
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Did you like that movie? Clip Aanger was good? Cliffhanger
was good. Cliffhanger was good. Last Action Hero. I can,
you know, respect what they were trying to do, but
it just kind of didn't really pan out the right way.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Okay, but Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Jurassic Park as a seven year old kid going to
watch it in the theater, that should creep me out.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Like what was your thoughts going into this movie?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Were you kind of like.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like what am I getting? Like am I expecting like
an action flick or a thriller kind of like similar
to Jaws? Or like what is like your thought process?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
To be honest, I didn't really want to go see
it when we went to go see it that weekend.
I want to this movie called Life with Mikey. I
wanted to go see this movie called Life with Mikey
with Michael J. Fox where he's like a child's agent
or something. And Jerry Lawler is actually in it too.
Jerry Lawler actually has a cameo in it. But we
ended up going to see Jurassic Park instead. In hindsight,
that was the right move. Jurassic Park was the better movie.
(38:21):
And yet that movie creeped me out, especially that one
scene with the dude from Seinfeld to do with the
glasses when he's like trapped in the car with that
one dinosaur who's like ears pop out or whatever. Actually,
it was scary as hell son, Oh my god, wow
PG thirteen movie. Yeah, it was damn scary that.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
That movie didn't really treat me. I didn't scare me.
I was just kind of like WHOA like when.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
I was a kid at the time. So the job,
and and honestly I was I was done with that
franchise after the second one, like after the Lost World,
I'm like you, I don't need to watch these movies anymore.
And I haven't watched the Jurassic Park movie since.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Dang. Wow, well I kind of well, you probably didn't
really miss a whole lot on the third one. I
think the third one, I didn't really care too much
about it.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
And checking for these new ones.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
But when they came out with the fourth one that
came out ten years ago, I kind of liked that
one the whole like plot of it because like they
finally did the park where people could come. I was like, oh, finally,
because that was the whole that was the whole print.
The premise of the story, this dude makes dinosaurs from
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freaking and he got from like a mosquito, DNA or whatever,
and then like, Okay, I'm going to make these dinosaurs.
I'm going to make a park and all that stuff,
so and it it really worked out to his vision.
And then the second one, the son tried to bring
the dinosaurs because he was going to make a park
in America and that didn't work out. And then the
(39:59):
third one, I don't want to into the third or
third one was just like what the hell was this?
And then the fourth one, they finally made a park
and there's people attending that. I was like, finally, Okay, cool,
they finally did it. Because we always think about like
what have I mean, what would have been like they
actually had a park with people in it, and it
did so anyway, man, I just yeah that that whole
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year man really just set the tone for the whole
decade when it just comes to everything and then music
we I think other than nineteen ninety eight, I think
nineteen ninety, ninety four ninety three are one of the
best two best years of mainly when it comes to
hip hop music.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Well, ninety three was great. They had, you know, thirty
six Chambers from Wu Tang Doggy Style from Snoop Dogg. Also,
you had the chronic that came out of that was
so hot throughoutmost the ninety three Oh yeah, trap call
Ques low End theory that it was a classic. Yes,
I'm sorry, mid Nightmarajas Bad, Midnight Getting Mixed Up.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I had to say that that's my favorite album from
that year.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Mid Nightmaradas's Parents. It's closest between that and on thirty
six Chambers. Either one of those are a good pick.
But honestly, out of the nineties, I would say the
best years as far as hip hop or like, ninety four,
ninety five was great. Also, ninety six is incredible, and
I'll throw ninety eight in there. Ninety eight was sick okay, yeah,
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but ninety three was very good for R and B.
On ninety three was actually very good for R and B,
especially for women in R and B, because you had
Tony Braxton, you had SWV, and you had Janet Jackson,
who had the number one song at this time of
this King of the Ring with That's the Way Love
Goes and her feature film debut, Poetic Justice, was said
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to come out a month after this show.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Alongside Tupac, there was a lot of good movies that
came out this year. I always put a high on
nineteen ninety five as the best nineties year of movies
in the nineties zup, but ninety three really gives a
run for its money as well, because there was so
many good movies that came out that.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Year, especially in the summer, and one really good one
that was out around this time that Tupac was supposed
to be in was Menace to society.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
I didn't know he was supposed to be in there.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
He was supposed to play like the Muslim dude cherif
he was supposed to play him. But he was like
asking questions I think, like in the process, like in
like the table reads of like why does he say
this or why doesn't he say that? And yeah, he
kind of had like an issue with the Hughes brothers
and that lets him be released and fired. It was
actually also around this time where Tupac kind of told
on himself when he was on Yo MTV Raps and
(42:45):
he admitted that he actually beat up one of the
Huges brothers because of the whole scenario and then getting
arrested right after that.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Dang, that's crazy man, crazy time man.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, I missed. I missed those kind of shows, those
like YOMTV rapp actually having music videos on. I missed
that time frame.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
It was good, she sh man. It was fun.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
It was fun. Fun, movies were fun, the music was fun.
Pop culture was fun.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Man, There's just so many good movies. I don't even
know where to begain. Like freaking Tombstone came out in
nineteen ninety three, one of my all time favorites, Blood
and Blood Out came out. Let's see the Sandlot. How
did I forget about that? That came out in nineteen
ninety three?
Speaker 1 (43:32):
My goodness, man, missus doc Fire. Yeah. Also, What's Love
got to do with It?
Speaker 2 (43:38):
You like Sister Act too?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I never really watched the Sister Acts like that.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Oh no, oh man, I.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Always meant to see them, but for whatever reason, I
never did. But yeah, I know Lauren Hill was in
Sister Act. I do know that Lauren Hill.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, oh yeah, yep, man yeah, Carles.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Way right, your Carlito's Way. You had BRONXTA.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Oh yeah, Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
That is also cool. Runnings, Yes, yeah, too many great
movies to list from ninety three. But also what was
great in ninety three that was actually going on around
this time was the NBA Finals between the Chicago Bulls
and the Phoenix Suns. And funny enough, the same day
of this King of the Rings show, they had the
Game three of that series where it went to triple overtime.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yes, and the Bulls won that game, right, was it
the Suns?
Speaker 1 (44:30):
No, the Suns won that game. The Sun saved their
season by winning that game.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Oh yeah, then won wow?
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, because if the Suns had lost that game, they
would have been down three to OHO. And they were
playing in Chicago because they lost the first two games
in Phoenix and that was Game three in Chicago. So
they fucking saved their season by winning that game three.
Dang only for another week.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, but the Bulls will go on to win that series,
becoming the first team since my hated Celtics since the
nineteen sixties to three P. Nobody's ever done that. That
was just a huge accomplishment that you just knew that
when you think about when you think about sports in
the nineties, because you got to think about, like, you know,
earlier that year, you know, the Dallas Cowboys won their
(45:14):
first Super Bowl and we saw how that will that
will turn out for them through the rest of the
years moving forward. But when you think about that decade,
you think about the Chicago Bulls, you think about Michael Jordan,
and that was just an awesome feat for that whole
what that team accomplished winning three straight. That's a hard
thing to do. Between that three P intersecond three P
(45:38):
which one do you was it? Which one was your favorite?
Speaker 1 (45:43):
I would say the second one. But I feel like
out of all the sixth title years that they had,
this one was probably the worst one they had. It
wasn't bad, but it was probably the worst one they
had because of the fact that they like finished number
two in the East behind the Knicks. And then they
have the whole gambling scandal that came out about Jordan,
(46:03):
like around this time too, where they were talking about
him like you know, staying at the casinos into like
the wee hours of the night, and that caused them
to lose the game against the Knicks during the Conference finals.
But I will say through all that, like fitting with
all that drama and all that you know, personal bullshit,
they still found a way to win their third title.
And Yo, you got to give them their flowers for that.
(46:25):
All the teams, when they win titles, it's when it
comes to their three pieces, the third one is always
the hardest. So like when you think back to like
the three pt like later in the nineties and ninety eight,
that one was tough, especially when you watch the Last
Dance documentary and then with the early nineties three pace
that they had here, the third one was the toughest
because in ninety one and ninety two they were the
clear favorites, but in ninety three they kind of had
(46:46):
like more of an uphill battle because they had the
Knicks who were ahead of them in the East, and
also they had the Sons who had Barkley as their
league MVP that year. This yeah, this is Barkley's MVP season.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, it's funny though. There's another interesting thing that happened
that month because it's funny because a couple of days ago,
you know, hockey season just ended before the Panthers won
back there back to back Stanley Cups, defeated Edminton Oilers
for a second straight year, and till this day, no
(47:20):
Canadian team has won the Stanley Cup since nineteen ninety three.
The last Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup was
the Montreal Canadians when they defeated my you know, beloved
La Kings though, but I mean I was I was
only a year old. But yeah, that was the last
time the Canadian team won a Stanley Cup was nineteen
ninety three. Kurt, that is madness, That is I I know,
(47:46):
that is crazy. And since then there's been I've lost
count of how many different Canadian teams has been in
the Stanley Cup but lost. Calgary Flame's been in it,
and to Oil has been in it twice. I think
Martreal was in the Stanley Cup a few years ago.
(48:07):
Vancouver was in a Stanley Cup in twenty eleven. They lost. Actually,
it's funny. Vancouver was in a Stanley Cup the year
after in ninety four, but they lost to the New
York Rangers in seven games. So yeah, they's just has
not been good man for Canada.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, it's too bad, man. But what was good in
nineteen ninety three was television. There were so many damn
good shows on at the time, from Family Matters. Family
Matters was on, Fresh Prince was on. This is actually
around the time where Janet Hooper left. The show was
actually his timeframe. Also, also, you had Martin. Also, you
had Martin. Martin had just started. You had Full House.
(48:47):
I still like full House at the time. Full House
was still good at this point. You have like shows
like Brose and things like that. A Different World actually
just ended around this time too because of some political
network bullshit, but we don't need to dive into that. Also, cheers,
just send it cheers. It just ended around this time.
And two defining ninety sitcoms actually debuted this year. And
those two sitcoms I'm speaking of are Living Single and
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Boy Meets World.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Yes, oh yeah, that's great man. I told you man,
this year was just a hot year for the nineties. Man.
And then speaking of TV shows, I think the one
show that pretty much had everybody on a chokehold Eddie Kids,
especially with parents, because we would harass our parents for
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us was Power Rangers. That show had everybody on the
choke hold. I was obsessed with Power Rangers.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
Yeah, Power Rangers were hot. But the only thing is
I think they were more hot like in ninety.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Four than like when they first started, really because.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
I remember ninety four specifically. That's kind of like when
I kind of got into Power Rangers a little late,
but I just remember like in ninety four specifically. Yeah,
the Power Rangers were everywhere. Yeah, that was they kind
of dethroned because the Ninja Turtles were kind of like
that hot kids kids karate show for like a while,
(50:11):
and then after that it kind of like transitioned to
Power Rangers.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
I just and that was very apparent when the Mint
Turtles three movie came out this year in ninety three,
and it sucked as much as it did. Oh man,
that movie was terrible. The Ninjaturtles movie where they go
back in time to Japan, Yeah, that movie was ass.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Wow. But man, that that uh, you know, let's help
you forget, you know. Batman. The animated series was had
well just started the year before though, but it was
still going on. It was still going on this year,
and this was like during the time when like, whoa Man?
That has so many good episodes. I to this day
still love that show. But yeah, just nineteen ninety three
(50:52):
just really just set the tone as a pop culture
thing just booming. During that year, I was only a
year old. I was only a year old, so I
really don't you know, have like you know, I'm just
a baby, you know what I mean? Just you know,
how old were you and where were you living.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
At I was seven years old. I was still living
in South Florida, my grandma's house with my mom, my brother,
my grandma obviously, and also one of my uncles, so
we were all living in that house during that timeframe.
I was still relatively innocent at this point in time.
I was still kind of like in yeah, like it
(51:31):
just ended on kindergarten around this time, so I was
like still that early age or like I hadn't really
lived life yet, but I was still enjoying it. I
was still enjoying that pop culture I had in front
of me at the time. I had not started watching
wrestling yet. I did not start watching wrestling until the
next summer in ninety four. But yeah, I was really
enjoying life as much as I could at this point.
And as great as pop culture and everything was in
(51:53):
the world at the time, one thing that was not
so great at the time was ww's product.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Yeah, you know, like I alluded to earlier, they were
just transit. They're in a transition stage, especially after you know,
like last year with the steroids, stick scandals and just
it was just a messy time for them. And then
you're transitioning to something different. You're going into new superstars,
(52:21):
younger superstars, but you're trying to find like the new guy,
the new face of the company, which was Brett Hart.
You're moving away from an era of wrestling where big,
muscular guys were your guys. Brett Hart wasn't like the biggest,
but he was the most ring adequate guy who told
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a story in the ring, and that's what they needed,
that's who they needed.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
And he was clean cut. The fans liked him, he
was fan friendly, he had cool ring gear, he had
the glasses and all that. So he seemed like the
right guy to like, you know, senders the company around
going into this new decade, this new phase. But as
it was really starting to pick up for Brett, as
he was just starting to you know, get get that
momentum going, you know who, hol Cogan decided to reappear.
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He made his return at WrestleMania nine, loses in a
tag team title match with Beefcake to Money Inc. In
the early part of the show, and then after Yoko
Zuna defeats Brett Harp controversially at the end of WrestleMania nine,
Hole Cogan comes out to protest what happened, and then
mister Fuji challenges Hogan to an impromptu match for the
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title on the spot, which Hogan ends up winning after
two minutes after mister Fuji accidentally through the salt and
so Yokozuna's eyes. So Holkgan, after he's been gone for
a damn year, comes back and wins the title for
a fifth time, and this would ultimately set up the
main event for this show being Hulk Hogan versus Yoko
Zuna for the championship. And funny enough, even though hole
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Cogan had just won the title back at WrestleMania, he
did not defend the title at all between WrestleMania and
this show. King of the Ring.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah, and look, this was a different time, man. Look
this wasn't a time where like every month there was
a pay per view. There was gaps, okay, you had
a gap between Roy Rumble and Russellmania. You had a
gap between Russell Mania and King of the Ring, had
a gap between King of the Ring and SummerSlam. You
had a bigger gap between Summer Slam and Survivor Series.
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So it wasn't set up where every month there was
a pay per view, and that.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Was the thing. King of the Ring as a pay
per view was new with this time. This is the
first time they ever done a pay per view for it.
Back in the day, they would do it like randomly
at house shows and they had like the Kings, like
you know, they had Macho King, they had King Harley
Race and all that jazz. But this would be the
first time they'd actually have the tournament as its own
pay per view, So that was another new thing they
were trying at the time, in addition to money that raw,
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in addition to trying to push like the newer, younger talent.
So it wasn't the best time for them from a
creative standpoint, product standpoint, but they were at least trying
different things that would eventually pay And.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
I love it, and I'm telling you, I love tournaments.
I love tournaments. Tournaments tell a story, especially when you
have a tournament within one night, because it tells a
story about the endurance and how much are you willing
to go to get to the ultimate goal. I love
that type of storytelling, you know what I mean. And
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it's the endurance and the capability to show yourself, the
company and the fans how much do you want it?
And Brett Hart that night showed it in three matches,
and all of the three matches, his second match against
mister Perfect, which we'll get into later, that was his
best match. I was like the best match of the night,
hands down.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Yeah, we will get into that later. And since Brett
Hart did lose the title the way he did it
WrestleMania and did not get the rematch at this show,
he was given the number one seed spot in this tournament,
which means he was already unqualified into the quarterfinals. He
did not have to win any qualifying matches. Brett Hart
in the first round. His opponent ended up being the
man he defeated at the World Rumble earlier that year,
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Raizor Ramone, who was kind of going through like a
transitional stage at this period. Also because a few weeks
before this King of the Ring, he had lost that
match to one two three kid that put one to
three kid on the map.
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, and the fans were given him a hard time
for it. When he's walking to the ring.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Yeah, they were channing one to three. Yeah, they were
channing one to three at him the whole time. And yeah,
this is ultimately set up Raiser Ramones's baby face turned
that which would happen later in the summer, but here
he was technically still a heel. He went against Brett
in the opening match, and Yo, they had a very
good match for the ten minutes that it lasted. I
can't say it's better than their match at World Rumble,
but it was still very good for the time it lasted.
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And Razor Ramote at one point stopped on Brett Hart's
finger and that would play into, you know, Brett's injuries
he would deal with later in the show. But I
did like how this match ended, where like Razor was
going to do that simplex from the top rope and
then Brett Harch just fell on top of him and
then pinned him. Yeah, for creative son.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
Just all of the finishes that Brett had had and
this match was very creative, man, he just out of nowhere,
just boom yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
And that was the thing that he was told going
into this tournament that he was not allowed to win
any of the matches with the sharpshooter, I know. And
funny enough, the night before at Madison Square Garden, he
wrestled in over thirty minute match with Bob Beckman and
actually hurt his ankle in the match. And then he
wrestled three different matches that lasted a good ten to
fifteen minutes a piece on this show. Yep, brad Hart
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had his working boots on this whole damn weekend.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
But yes, brat Hart did win this match in advancing semifinals.
And in the next match we had mister Perfect who
had to face Doink in three different matches to qualify
for the tournament. Take on mister Hughes, who looks like
a damn corruptive limo driver or some shit.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
Hearu he does, stop, he does, he does.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
It looks like that limo driver who was gonna take
you to the place you didn't ask to.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
Go to, right. I think he more he looks way
more suspicious with the sunglasses there I'm just like, okay, okay, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
Didn't really know that much about him really, to be honest,
one of my few times e were watching mister Hughes
was honestly, this show and this match was really nothing,
really special to write home about. It was like really
quick and mister Hughes not knowing the damn rules hit
mister Perfect with the undertakers earned that he stole the
day before on Superstars and got his asked to qualify.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (58:37):
So mister Perfect ends up advancing to the semi finals
to have a rematch from SummerSlam ninety one against Brett Hart,
which we'll get into in a few minutes. And then
in our next match, we had Bam Bam Bigelow take
on Hacksaw Jim Duggy.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
Yeah, I mean, not a whole lot of riding on
this match. I mean you kind of knew that, you know,
Bamman big Leve was gonna get the when I don't
know what was your thoughts about.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
This match, pretty much the same thing. It was quick,
It was to the point you knew Bam Bam was
gonna win, and out of all of like kind of
the gimmicks that were around in the eighties that were
kind of still around at this point. Hacksaw Jim Duggett,
I would have to say felt the most out of
place here.
Speaker 2 (59:22):
Yeah. I was kind of like, wait, he's on his
car like that was going on here?
Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, I mean no offense, no offense to him, like,
but it was nineteen ninety three, dude. It was kind
of like, h this is getting a little bit old man.
Speaker 1 (59:38):
Yeah. Yeah, it was just weird having him around still
at this point. I know they did that angle with
him earlier in the year when Yokozuna hit him with
multiple bonds eye drops and he was crossing out blood
and then he had like a couple of matches on
Rod Wood Sean for the Icy title, one of them
being a lumberjack match. But yeah, he just felt like
really out of places, and especially with the tank top
he was wearing and everything. It's like, yo, it doesn't
really feel like it fits no, which explains why he
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lost the Bad Bad Bigelow with the diving head but
the way he did, and that was that and Bad
Band Bigelow with Dance, and then in our final quarterfinal match,
we had the narcissist Lex Luger who could not get
his eyes off the damn mirror of himself to save
his damn life.
Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
That's why he's called the narcissist Kurt.
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
They gone to Taco the Undefeated to Taca.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yeah, yeah, who should have lost the model Rick Martel
the year before a Mania though, but that's a different story.
Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yeah, Martel was used basically to lose to people by
that point, by ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, well ninety three though, but ninety one and before that,
my god, he.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Not by like ninety two when he was doing that
program with t Tacca. Yeah, he was basically used to establish.
Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
The Tonco Yeah new kid. Oh anyway, Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Like before the man starts, they make Lex Luger put
like an elbow pad on because of the metal plate
he as in his elbow. So Taca comes out and
then Lex Luger just attacks him and throws him out
of the ring just so we could look at himself
in the mirror longer. And then to Taka just pushes
the mirror on top of his ass, which is funny
as hell. And yeah, this should be a prelude to
the few that they would have the next year in
ninety four involving dbs. But here are the roles were
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reversed with taker faced Luger being the heel, and this
match ended up going the time limit and the match
ended up being a draw. So because of that, Bam
Bam Bigelot automatically advanced to the finals.
Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, and you know, it was you know, it was
crazy about that whole sequence. So like when the match ended,
right and they declared that the match was a draw,
Lex Luger kind of got like a baby face reaction
when he announced that no, let's continue the match, and
they were like hey. I was like, remember Lex Luger
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is a heel at the time, and this was before
you know, his feud with Yolko Zuna and he does
all American gimmick and all that stuff. This is before that.
He gets a little bit of a babyface reaction when
he says like, no, let's like continue to match and everything.
We need to see a winner. Like, I don't know
if you caught that, but I was just like, oh, that's.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
A I think they wanted the match to get to
continue and there was no That's probably why they cheered.
They weren't really cheering for Luger, So that's.
Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I know, But yeah, I know, but it's kind of yeah,
but it's like it's kind of weird that the heel
does it, because usually like the baby face is the
one that's like, no, let's continue to match, but it's
the heel that was doing it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Yeah, But then as Luger said this, like the Taco
was like kind of like trying to get him get
himself back together. And then as he was doing that,
Luger knocks him out with the metal plated forearm. M. Yeah,
that was a devastating move during that time, yet he
was knocking everybody out with it, and then to Taco exception,
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and this would pretty much be one of Lex Luger's
last appearances as the narcissist character, as he would become
the Maid in the USA Lex Luger just three weeks
after this when he by the slam Yokozuna.
Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Crazy, crazy, how much so much change in such a
little amount of time. But yes, so time come, Lex
lugu are both out. So that leaves Batman Bigelow in
the finals and he's gonna meet the winner of this
next match. As we had Brett Hard against Mister Perfect
and before the match, they had a backstage interview with
mean Gene Okerlin and mean Jen was like stirring up
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mad ship between the two of them. I'm man, I'm troublemaker,
God rests his soul.
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
But mean Jean, come on, now, you know the man.
You know better than that, the stir of something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Come on now, He's like saying, like, yo, Brett Hart,
didn't you say that you could be mister Perfect easily
and he would be an easier opponent.
Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Oh big enough man. And then he had to be
drinking that day. He Meijene had to be drinking that
day to tell me so.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Possibly right, And then Perfect's like, yeah, I remember Summer
Slam and I owe you. When they're talking about their
dads about how like their dad's tougher than the other
one's dad, and then mister Perfect fakes a hand shake,
attempted bread. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I like this.
Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
It was actually really added to the match.
Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
I like that they did this all because of mean Jean.
Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Yeah, because I mean Gene, Dad martiniz horrible, horrible, But
it was not horrible? Was this damn match as Brett
Hart and mister Perfect when eighteen minutes here, this match
was brutal son, This match was crazy. That was a
fun spot where mister Perfect pushes Brett Hart off the apron,
like into the railing Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Sh I was literally getting like a little bit of
a PTSD from Samara Serious ninety five. When Diesel pushed
Bread off the apron into the table and I saw,
I was like, oh my god, he's gonna land on
the table. I was like, no, he did he land
off the guard. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
There was no table close by form the land Oh
but still it gave me that memory. I hear, you
gave me that memory.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Yeah, Like bretton Perfect of going at it, Perfect kind
of works heel throughout this match, even though he's a
baby face, he works as a heel throughout it because
there's just one point where he acts like he's letting
Brett Hart back in the ring, but as Brett Heart's
getting back into the ring.
Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
He kicks them mmmm. And I love how because of
Brett's injury, like he looks like he's trying to do
the sharp shitter, but he doesn't. He does the figure
four on mister Perfect, and he had him on that
figure four for a while, and it looked like at
a point where I'm like, oh my God, is mister
Perfect going to tap out and but no, he gets
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to the rope and he breaks the count.
Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Yeah, and then Brett at one point hit Perfect with
the super plex, which is dope. And there was this
other point where Perfect try to do the perfect plex,
the bread of bread like blocked it and then Bretton
ended up superplexing himself and Perfect over the top rope held.
That was nasty. Yeah, that was nasty. Even nine of
my kids used to do that back in stampede wrestling
back of the day. But that's a dangerous spot. That's
a dangerous spot.
Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I bet he EASi to get hurt you falling out
or like that.
Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yeah, and youthin could easily go wrong in that spot.
Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Yeah, that's yeah, that is dangerous.
Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
But luckily both men seem to be fine from this spot.
And then they get back into the ring. Mister Perfect
puts Brett Hard in a small package, but then Brett
Hard reverses it into his own small package and picks
up the win to advance to the finals.
Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Yeah, and of course mister Perfect's pissed off, and yeah,
I felt like he was going to attack him after that,
but no, he decides to you know, shake Brett's hand
and that was it. Between those two matches, the matches
they had a King in the Ring and then the
match that they had about you know, a couple of
years prior as SummerSlam. Between those two matches, which one
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you think was the best?
Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
It's hard to say. I think the one that Summer
Slam has more like significance to him because it was
at Madison Square Garden. It was Brett's like first major
title win and like the start of his like we
were like puysches being one of the top guys. And
then this match in a way was better because mister
Purfect's back wasn't messed up, so he was healthier going
into it. And it's hard. They're both really great matches.
(01:07:17):
I do think this is the best match from WW
that year, but if I had to pick, I'll probably
go with the Summer Slam one. It's close, but I'll
go with the Summer Slam one.
Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Okay, We're still an.
Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
Incredible match, yere best match of the whole damn tournament,
best match WW had the entire year, and yet not
enough good things you could say about it. These two
were always magic together, always Yeah, so Brett's going to
the finals, and in our next match we had for
the ww Championship, Kogan stealing the spotlight and the championship
(01:07:49):
once again defending the title against the man he stole
it from at WrestleMania in controversial fashion, yoko Zuna.
Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Yeah, just you know, not a really whole lot of
writing going into this match, but it really started to
pick up when it looks like Hogan's about to win
the match, but then a certain photographer comes out to
the ring and tries to take a picture of Hulk Hogan.
(01:08:19):
But it turns out Hogan gets like blinded by the
fire come out of the camera.
Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
And that would lead to Yokozuna knock him down, Hogan
hitting him with the leg drop of all moves, and
pinning Hogan to win the title for the second time.
I'm sure a lot of people did not see that
finish coming. I mean, the way they did it with
the damn photographer sucked. But Yokozuna regaining the title from Hogan,
that's a good look for him.
Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Yeah, and then insult injury he finally does the buns
I drop on Hogan.
Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Yeah, Like, honestly, when I look back at Hogan from
this period, it just pitched me. Like when I look
back at the promos he was doing, just the way
he comes off, It's like, Yo, why the fuck are
you still here? Like even his promo before the match,
Like his promo before the match where they had that
big close up of the Hogan painfush job on the
(01:09:16):
back of Jimmy Hert's like jacket oh man, and like
just him doing that same promo of like, you know,
standing up for America. We're in the heartland of America.
We're gonna beat the foreign villain. We're gonna overcome for
the American spirit. I'm like, bro, the eighties are over.
This is played out. This is played out. You're played out,
you're stealing the spotlight. It's clear that you can't let
it go. It's like, Yo, bow out gracefully, and in
(01:09:41):
a way you can maybe say he bowed out gracefully
because he dropped the title of Yoko Zuna clean. Yeah,
But just the way he played out with the whole
photographer bullshit. It's like, Yo, you couldn't have just lost
to him cleanly, or you couldn't have just lost to
Bret Hart, Like the way it kind of looked like
it was heading towards. But yeah, you had to do
this bullshit.
Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Two things. Number one, I just when I was watching
that that that backstage segment with Hulk Hogan, it was
just weird seeing him having a manager, having not just
Jimmy Hart though, but just a manager in general. It's like,
that's not Hulk Hogan's style. I thought that was just
a bit weird. Look, look, I get it Hogan and
Jimmy Hart are close friends backstage though, but the fact,
(01:10:19):
like on screen he's my manager and all that, I'll say,
that's not Hogan s.
Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Also seeing Jimmy Hard as a babyface too, because Jimmy
Hart was always a heel manager.
Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Now he was a baby Yeah, I thought that was
just weird.
Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Man. Yeah, this whole vibe was weird. Also, Hogan felt
really out of place in WW at this point. You
could definitely tell he was a lot smaller compared to before,
obviously because he couldn't be on the juice and all
that jazz. And even a month before this, he wrestled
the show in New Japan and like tossed away the
WW title and referred to it as a toy. M Yeah,
(01:10:54):
he was just coming off really bad during this period,
like it was clear he was like only out for
himself and he wasn't out for like the copany's best interest, because, Yo,
he won the title what like two and a half
months before this at WrestleMania, did not defend the title
once in that timeframe, didn't appear on TV like live
once in that timeframe, and didn't wrestle at all until
like a month and a half later on a house show.
(01:11:15):
And during that time he was doing matches with like
Beefcake against Money Inc.
Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Pretty much just holding the title hostage. And then like
when you when you when you refer to him, you know,
like what are you doing here? And all that? Look,
I go back to that wressell Mania nine documentary on
Peacock about how look they kind of just brought Hogan
in just so they could like pretty much so they
could sell tickets.
Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
I get it, but like he didn't need to be
the champion. That's my biggest artist. I know I need
to be the champion at this point.
Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Yeah, Look, whenever I look at this event and this
match in particular, right, I always say to myself, this
is what should have happened at wressell Mania. This was
kind of like the payback like this, what should have happened? Yeah,
(01:12:04):
Hogan went in the Russell Mania and nine was unnecessary
and now we're at this point where this what should
have happened, Well, what.
Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Maybe he should have happened is that he should have
lost the title to Brett Hart at SummerSlam, which Brett
Hart thought was gonna happen. But then around the time
he was being told that it wasn't gonna happen, that
Hogan didn't want to do it because he was too
small and funny enough. When Hogan got backstage after this match,
Brett Hart pitched him out. Yeah, Brett Hard, it was Yeah,
Brett Hart literally told him on behalf of me and
(01:12:34):
all the boys in the back, go fuck yourself. Glad
he did that good? Yeah, because you could just tell
from the whole vibe of Hogan at this point he's
clearly just out for himself. He's clearly just looking out
for himself. Yeah. He was doing promos on the stead
of thunder Room Paradise throughout the built of this match.
M Yeah, it's like, bro, get your old ass out.
Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Of here, and funny during this time, funny during this
timmy year after a year later, he'll go to WCW.
Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Yeah, he would end up in WCW year later with
like a new beginning, a fresh start, all that good stuff.
But yeah, this was the end of the Hogan era
officially on WWTV. Yeah, Hogan wouldn't show up on WWTV
again until No Way Out two thousand and two. But
Hogan actually still did Russell House show matches with Yokozuna,
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like in the month or two after this, and yew
there's even footage on the ww vault page on YouTube
of a confrontation that happened a few days after this
King of the Ring between Hulk Hogan and Giant Gonzales.
Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Really, yeah, you can find it on the vault.
Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Yeah, there was like a lumberjack match with Hogan and
Beef kicking against Money Inc. And Giant Gonzales is one
of the lumberjacks and then he ended up stepping in
the ring with Hogan and then Hogan actually backed away.
Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Really yeah, wow, we could.
Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Have maybe gotten that match with Summer sliming Hogan and stuck.
Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
Around, but no, they did. Giant Gonzales was the undertaker.
Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
But I still maintained even though Hogan was stale at
this point, and Hogan was played out at this point.
I still do maintain they should have done Hogan and
Brett at that Summer Slam. That would have been a
much better idea than you know, what happened here. Although
I have nothing against Yokozuna being the champion, I have
nothing against him, but just the way this thing all
played out, with the whole damn camera man with the fireball,
which is actually hardy with fum minn.
Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
I don't know if you knew that that was hard Yeah,
it was, yeah when I when I watched the video
that you sent me about the interesting facts about it.
Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Yeah, but this is good for Yokozuna, as I would
kick off its title rain that would go on until
WrestleMania ten the next year. All right, So moving on
to our next match. We had an eight man tag
We had the Steiner Brothers and the newly debuted Smoking
Guns against the tag team champions Money Inc. And the Headshrinkers.
(01:14:49):
It was, you know, just it was a match.
Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
It was just a match to put on the show basically,
just to get through kind of you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Yeah, it was just a way to get them all
on the show. I heard the build up to this
match was better than the actual match because I think
on the row before this, money Inc. Tried to give
offer the manager some of their money and Bafa didn't
know what to do with the money, so we ate it,
so I pissed him off obviously.
Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
So this match ultimately ends when DBAs puts Billy gun
in the million Dollar Dream and then he lets him
go in just starts like, you know, showing off, and
this show off for cost him in the end as
Billy Gunn hit him with a small package to get
the win for the Guns and the Steiners, and then
the match afterwards, all four teams end up like brawling
with each other, and then the Steiners and the Guns
like clear out money Ink and the head Shrinkers and
(01:15:38):
they win stand tall. But it's funny enough. Right after
this King of the Ring, the following week, the Steiner
brothers in Money Inc. Would exchange the tag team titles
three times.
Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Yeah. The Steiners would beat money In for the titles
the next day, then Money Ink would beat the Steiners
for the belts a couple of days after that, and
then the Steiners would beat money Ink for the titles
back a few days after after that crazy son. And
it's so crazy how they would do these title twishes
on house shows so much back then.
Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Yeah, I mean they had Raw every Monday, right yeah
they yeah, they did. It's crazy to do it on Raw.
Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Yeah, they chose to do it at house shows. And
speaking of which, that ties us into our next match.
We had Sean Michaels, who had just won back the
Intercontinental title on a house show the week before this
with a debuting Diesel in his corner against Crush.
Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
This was kind of like Crush pretty much like dominating,
showing strength, dominating Sean Michaels, and it looked like, well,
Crush is gonna, you know, get the the icy title,
but uh doink two doinks showed up that caused the distraction.
It was a bit weird seeing Sean Michaels do the
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super kick behind Crush his head at the pinfall victory
even one two three though, But yeah, it was just
you know, the.
Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Match was fine. I mean, KNA Crush was an impressive
looking dude. Those outfits were super damn bright, right, really,
we I hadn't see him beating Sean Michaels for the
belt here, especially with Diesel. Just stay doing as there's
no bodyguard. Yeah, this is definitely not at the end
of Sean Michaels' title reign and it should not have been.
So he retained here and then that crushing doing you
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would continue on up until Crush was put out of
action by Yokozuna later in the summer with multiple bond
side drops, and that would lead to Crush turning heel
on Macho Man later in the year. Oh, because Macho
Man was the one who encouraged Crush to like challenge
Yoko Zuna. Because throughout the match on commentary you could
hear Macho Man saying, I think Crush could slam Yoko Zuna.
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I think Crush could beat Yoko Zuner. So then he
was kind of getting in crushed his air by fighting
Yoko Zuna, and then when he fought Yoko Zuna it
ended up that way. So then Crush playing Macho Man
for it.
Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Wow. Also that's how it started.
Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
That's how that fe started.
Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
All right, But yeah, Sean Michael's retaining the title here
and had diesel now is a part of his total
act and that would lead to a lot of good
stuff that would come, not just later in this year,
but especially the following year in ninety four for Diesel mhmm. Yeah,
so Sean one here. And then onto our main event,
we had the finals of the King of the Ring tournament,
as we had Brett Hart taking on Bam Bam Bigelow.
Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Yeah, and everybody who had their doubts about Brett because
he was hurt and he already wrestled to matches already,
while Bam Bam Bigelow he had a first round by
so he was more rested than Brett Hart. And yeah, yeah,
bigger guy too. Yeah, and you know this is all
about Bam Bam Bigelow, you know, just you know, putting
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down his strength and his size on Brett Hart. And
you know, Brett Hart's is getting dominated. Even got bar
hugged at one at one point during the match, and
even Luna of Sean interfered. He hit Brett Harp the
steel chair outside of the ring.
Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Hitt Brett Hard with a steel chair.
Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Yeah, she sorry, she hit Brett Harp with the steel chair.
Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
So yeah, she hit him with a steel chair. And
then that led to Bam Bam Bigelow hitting Brett Hart
with the top rope head butt and Bam Bam Bigelow
got the pin and you think, yeah, is the king
of the ring. But then Earl Hebner comes out and says, yo,
that's Lunafa. Sean came out and hit Brett with the chair.
This is bullshit. You can't and the match like this,
and then Howard Finkle says that the decision had been reversed,
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but then they correct him, and then it comes to
find out that the match is going to continue because
of the interference.
Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Yeah, it's interesting that they pulled it off that way,
like they had you like trick for a second that
Brett lost, and then the match ended up continuing. Yeah,
So the match continues and Bam Bam Bigelow still working
over Brett, and so Brett eventually makes a comeback. He
like dugs Bam Bam Bige little out of the ring.
He like jumps on top of him outside of the
ring and punches him a couple of times. He had
some of the closes nine from the second rope a bulldog.
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And then eventually Brett's on Bam Bam big a little
shoulders and he's kind of like trying to keep his
balance and then he falls down and puts Bam Bam
into a roll up and then Brett Hart gets the
pin by doing the roll up, and as your nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Three King of the Ring winner, well deserved, well deserved,
earned earned it, earned it, earned it.
Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Great story, great story throughout the whole night.
Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
Yeah great, I'm telling you this is why I love tournaments.
You have a all these three matches were grueling. Man.
You had a very tough first match against Rais and Ramone,
you had a very physical match against mister Perfect and
then this match again a very tough, uphill battle with
Bam Bam Bigelow. And he got the job done in
all three of those matches well deserved. And then of
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course the coronation, you know, his scepter and the crown
will deserve.
Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
But that all got.
Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Put to rest once another king showed up, and that's
Jerry the King. Lawler pretty much stayed in the claim
that he's the true King of the WWE, and he's
pretty much telling Brett Hard that you need to, you know,
bow down and pretty much kiss my feet.
Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
And Brett Hard definitely was not having that ship after
the work he put in that night. So we basically
called Jerry Lawler a pussy for not entering the tournament himself,
and then he mentioned burger king.
Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
That's all the Burger King chance started from. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Yeah, he's basically telling him, telling Jlawala, like, Yo, there's
a certain kind of king that you are, and that
kind of king is the Burger King, and that starts
the Burger King chant. And then Jerry Lawler attacks Brett
Hart from behind, hits him in the back of the
neck with the scepter and it just starts like kicking
him and stopping on him. And then he takes the
chair and like come, hits Bred in the back with it,
(01:21:57):
and then he just kicks Brett Hard down the steps
to make Hi kiss his feet, and the show basically
ends with Jerry Lawler standing over Brett Hart.
Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Look, I thought that was just a weird way to
end the and the event. Look, I get it that
they were doing it to uh so they could, you know,
start their program between Brett Hart and Jerry Lawler going
into Summerslidne, which was weird by the way, but I
thought it was just like a weird way to end
the show, like this is your first time crowning a
(01:22:29):
King of the Ring. The coordination and it's supposed to
be a good ending, and then this happened. I was like,
that's kind of weird, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Yeah, I can understand that. But at the end of
the day, I think it worked because it set up
their feud so perfectly, the Hard and Jerry Roler feud.
And I know this is more of a consolation prize
for Brett after you know, not getting the match with
Hogan and Summers, he gets this, you know, fude with
Jerry Laller instead. But yo, it was a damn good feud. Honestly,
one of the few highlights of ww that year was
that Brett Hard and Jerry lawlerfiud which would lead in
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the Summer Slam. And honestly, that whole segment they had
at SummerSlam between the drink match and the match with
Lawler was the highlight of Summer Slam. It's funny enough,
Lawler actually injured Brett Hart, like when he hit him
in the back of the back of the neck with
the scepter. He actually heard him and then Brett told
him about that. And then at SummerSlam when Lawler hit
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Brett with the with the crutch, like during that whole
angle with Dunk Lawler heard bread again and that's why
Brett chapped him in the sharp shooter for as long
as he did.
Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Dang see wow.
Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Yeah. Another funny story Bam Mammigol told about, like when
Brett Hart pinned him like in the end of this match.
Brett Hart actually he farted in his face as the
pin was happening.
Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Yeah, yeah, he told that.
Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Wow, damn loses the match and that happens too.
Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
Dang yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
But great performance by Brett here put on three incredible matches,
especially that match with mister Perfect. And yeah, this whole
show was the Brett Hart show. You take all the
Brett Hart matches off this show. The show was not
that good.
Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
No, especially the second match, Oh my god, best match
of the night.
Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
And this show was a clearest day message that Brett
Hart was the star of this era, not Hulk Hogan.
Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Nope, Yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
Brett Hart's matches were all gray highly praised, and Hogan's
match with Yokuzuna wasn't a good match. And also just
the way it ended with the whole photographer bullshit was
mad whack. Yeah, And many people say that this is
like the official end of like the Hogan Golden Era
and the unofficial beginning of the New Generation era.
Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Yeah, I could see that. Like I said, they were
transitioning man, and you know, you have these new superstars
that are going to kind of like set the tone
for the company years later, you know, like doing No
Where to Be end. You got Sean Michaels Undertaker, even
though Undertaker wasn't on the car though, but he was
a big part of the roster and that era at
the time. And see you got Yokozuna, Razor Bone.
Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Bam Bigelo mentioned Bread already, and even Lex Luger. Lex
Luger had a little bit of a run, like right
after this, he had the whole thing with Yokozuna with
the Body Slam. They were doing big things with him
for a while, so you could throw him into that
mix too. Yeah, they were clearly like looking into the
future at this point. And yeah, the product wasn't good
at the time, but they were, you know, making the
right moves to eventually make it good in a few years.
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And yeah, this is basically like the last legs of
the Hogan era, where like Hogan being gone after this,
Hacksaw Dam Dugn't being gone after this, DBAs retired after
Summer Slam. Mister Perfect pretty much like retired for a
few years, like because of his back not too long
after this. So yeah, like those dudes from the Hogan
era were pretty much being phased out.
Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
By this point.
Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
And by the time the year was over. Yeah, and
also you had Macho Man doing commentary. He wasn't wrestling,
he was doing commentary.
Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Yeah, he didn't really like it that much. I mean,
he's kind of dude, I could look like that's one
of the reasons why he that was like the main
reason why he left to go to WCW. And it
was just a bit weird seem in that position, and
he didn't want to be in that position. He just, look,
I still have a lot in me. I still want
to compete and wrestle in the ring.
Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
So yeah, definitely, and you show that he still had
a lot more to offer when he went to WCW.
And that's funny enough, like within a year a lot
of the people who are on this King of the
Ring show would end up in WCW.
Speaker 2 (01:26:24):
Yeah, specifically Ogan, but.
Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Yeah, definitely a different definitely a transitional time for WW
and June nineteen ninety three not the best period of
their product by any stretch, I'll be the first one
to testify to that. But in all that bullshit and
all that garbage, they were kind of like producing at
the time for the most part, one of the few
good things they did have during that nineteen ninety three
timeframe was this King of the Ring show.
Speaker 2 (01:26:49):
I agree, and like I said, I was, you know,
best pay per view of the year they had.
Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
So yeah, hands down, there's nothing that comes even close.
Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Yeah, So the highlight of this whole show obviously with
all three of the Brett matches, the crushing Shawn Michael's
match was cool, and the Tatanka and Lex Suber matches
okay also, But yeah, definitely a monumental show. Definitely a
look into the definitely out with the old, in with
the new type of vibe from the show you definitely get.
And yeah, I'm looking forward to next month's Wrestling review
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Wee Wine. As you said, I believe you want to
dive into Fully Loaded ninety nine. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
I was thinking about that or either like, because we're
always doing you know, WW events, I was thinking, you know,
maybe wouldn't hurt us do with w CW one. I
was maybe maybe think about if we do Bash at
the Beach nineteen ninety six, but you know, up to you,
but either.
Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
One of those would be good. But I think ninety
nine was a crazier summer, especially considering the weekend of
that Fully Loaded was that Woodstock ninety nine festival?
Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Oh yeah, there's the documentary of that on Peacock.
Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
There's multiple documentaries about that. It was just a crazy
time frame. It was the Attitude era. We haven't really
talked too much about the Attitude era much on these
past episode, so that'd be cool.
Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
No, we haven't, and we never talked. Yeah, and if
it's any pay per view that we should cover from
that year particular, I think the best one will be
fully Loaded.
Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Well I would have probably said maybe back last, but
we're already past that. But yeah, fully Loaded had it's.
Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
From well okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Yeah so that okay, So I guess fully Loaded ninety
nine d is okay? All right? So yeah, fully Loaded
ninety nine will be our episode for next week's next
month I'm sorry, next month's wrestling review. Rewine and my brother.
Is there anything else you want to dive into today?
Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Oh? Man, I was just nothing much. Man, I cannot
wait for a raw next week. Can't wait for SmackDown
this to come on Friday. With the King of the
Ring and Queen of the Ring still looming and the
semi finals coming up, I can't wait for it. And yeah,
and we'll just we'll be here, ladies and gentlemen, give
you the wrestling news that you need to here and
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Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
And ladies and gentlemen. Stay safe, stay blessed, and always
stay adventurous.
Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Peace,