Episode 416: LA Clippers Free Agency: Pretty Damn Solid (so far)

The LA Clippers retained James Harden, added the best backup 5 they've had since Hartenstein (but got a little older), and still have cap flexibility, pretty good right? Adam, Will, and Chuck talk the newest signings, what's left for the Clippers, and chat the Summer League roster

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season four
of Clips and Dip, the first episode of the new season.
Dedicated listeners will know that our season resets at the
NBA Draft, an arbitrary date set by all of us
as a group decision. I am Chuck Mockler, joined by
Adam Oslin and Will Updike. It's our first time hanging

(00:29):
out since a lot of Clipper stuff has happened. We're
going to talk to free agency, what's left for the
Clippers to do, and then some summer league stuff and
some dips as well before we get into it. It's
a new season. Adam Will, how are you guys doing
on this kind of sweltering day in Los Angeles? Adam
Will start with you.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I guess I'm not enough of a dedicade listener because
I just did not know when the season rolled over.
But I'm glad we're starting a new season here.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Been interesting watching Twitter over the last forty eight hours.
Nuz stop refreshing, which is gonna be more difficult because
my internet's giving me trouble now, so it's probably gonna
be a big trade coming.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
But it's good to be back here.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
New season, fresh start Clippers coming off a fifty win season.
We'll see if they can roll that over. It's a
fifty five win.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
There we go, fifty five wins. Will How are you
doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I'm doing good man. It's hot as hack, but even hotter.
Are the Clippers right now looking to it? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
There we go? Are you wearing a Silver Lake Barbershop shirt?
By the way, I sure am. Shout out, silver Lake Barbershop.
Shout out, coming up on.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
You, coming up on do so I'll be over there.
I'll be over there pride next week.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
We've got a lot of letters about your hair lately,
so yeah, you should get that cut. A lot of letters.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
One time I did go a while and Santy, the
prior of Silver Lakes Barbershops, give me a hard time
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
He's a good man. He cuts a good head of hair,
all right, The Clippers, if you've been under a rock,
resigned hard and resigned the Tom signed Brook Lopez? Wait mine? When? Who?
How much? Adam? How are you feeling? I'm giving this
an a grade so far from the Clippers free agency wise,

(02:20):
based with everything we've heard coming into free agency and
kind of what the front office had projected. I like
the moves.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'll give it a B plus because I still think
they could have a move on the horizon or bring
in a power forward. I'm just leaving a little bit
of room, just like five point three million dollars worth
of room for them to still use. Is that's how
much they have their mid level exception remaining.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
But so far, so good.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I think people have underrated the brook Lopez moved to
some degree. Somebody earlier today was like Yona's Mellan Twness
is better than him, and it's like, dude, brook Lopez
was second and defensive Player of the Year voting.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Two years ago.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yo'se Valancio has even made an All Defensive team in
his career. Like, they're not They're not the same. Brook
Lopez is a heck of a signing by the Slippers team.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, will are you hyped on Zoo's vet from the
Lakers now being again his vet for the Clippers?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah? Well, does today's change places as Zoo kind of
the vent now is like the longest as the longest
tenured Clipper. I mean I think he I think that
Brook might have to be washing his car or something.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
How that.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I don't know how that works, but I I'm with
at him. I would give this a B. I think
it would be you know, like, I think a lot
of what the Clippers were going to be able.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
To do this offseason was pretty predictable, so, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Think we were headed towards the c which still, you know,
given you know, returning a fifty win team with a
full training camp and coming into a season with a
healthy Kawahi isn't the worst place to be, Like, you know,
it isn't the worst place to be in terms of
where you could where you could be at in the West.
It does get a little scary looking around at some

(04:03):
of the competition, especially I think the way that Denver
bolstered up. But I would be hard pressed to not
give this, uh, to not give this a bee. I
think the Brook Lopez signing is interesting. They've addressed a
position of need that we've all kind of baled about
for multiple years, and while retaining Harden, which you know,

(04:25):
I know some people sour on him through that playoff performance,
that is kind of going to be what it is.
I think if you're you know, we can't look that
far ahead right now. We just got to focus on
a full training camp coming into the season healthy h
and I do like that we got a little bit
deeper and maintained really that defensive identity. I know that
Brook is not quite the defensive player that he was

(04:45):
even two seasons ago, but still he is an elite
room defender, especially considering you know, how he can be
used more as depth. He's not going to be tasked
with a starting a starting type role, So yeah, for me,
it's a be Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
He brings the best defense we've had from a backup
center since Hartenstein, let alone everything else he brings, it's
better than any other backup center we've had since Hartenstein.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
But the reason he's a guy I've wanted for the clips,
Like I wanted him since what was it he have
like a little did he have a nets stint there
after the Lakers? And then yeah, yeah, around that time
when he started knocking down threes, it was kind of like, man,
why are you, like, why did the Lakers let this
guy go? And why like why are not more people
kind of snatching up on this buy and low?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
So to speak? Yeah it is, and he adds like,
I guess that's a good segue into kind of what
do his minutes look like? Because the other backup centers
were not as good, so we had to do things
like play Ben Simmons at the five, played Nick Patum
at the five to keep our defensive identity. Lopez is
probably going to average more minutes than our previous backup
center last year, right, Adam, would you he's better than

(05:54):
they were?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Uh, how many minutes would they average? Like, I didn't
even play some nights, so that's tough. Zoo was in
around thirty two minutes per game, I think, so sixteen
minutes per night for Brook Lopez thirty three make it fifteen.
I think somewhere between fifteen and twenty, depending on how

(06:17):
he's looking and how Zoo is playing. There were times
where we were saying, Zoo looks a little bit gassed
out there. He looks a little bit tired, And I
think this is also a great move. While you want
beats the Zoo bots, who's twenty eight in the prime
of his career, to be playing heavy minutes and be
a big focal point in this team, of course, you
also don't want to wear him down over a long season,

(06:39):
and there have been multiple times now over the last
couple of years where he's come down with that dreaded
calf entry and he's had to rest some Like, I
just love this as a backup option, a guy who
could feasibly start for you, since that's why he's done
his entire career and just started eating games last year
at over thirty minutes per game. So if something unfortunate
were to happen or be so Zubos miss a little

(07:01):
bit of time, you feel much more secure with heavy
for Lopez in there.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I like what you said about ramping up for the
playoffs too, because we do all love zobots, but will
we all agree his biggest like knock is the energy
levels sometimes not the desire, not like the attitude, energy
levels quite literally, the physical energy. He looks a little
tired sometimes.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah. I mean, you know, he has been an ironman
and he has been very durable, but we have had
seen the calf things pop up a couple of times,
and then the conditioning thing. Sure, I think it's like
a really great maneuver because we don't have the wing
depth that we once had. You know, we don't have
even when we're playing small. It's gonna behoove us to

(07:42):
have a traditional size center out there, because you know,
we're gonna play guard heavy, We're gonna play some guard
heavy lineups. It's just kind of it's kind of what's
gonna happen. And that elite sort of four wasn't wasn't
grappable for the Clippers. That wasn't a real move given
the assets that we have in the cap space that
we have available. So I think instead getting for the

(08:04):
position an elite an elite center, I think for the
position if you're talking about like that fifteen eighteen, you know,
maybe twenty minutes a night, like potential fill in as
a starter, I think elite at that position at the five,
I think that bolsters the front court in an interesting way,
is a little bit more optionality. And again I do

(08:25):
see the criticisms of you know, again getting older, you know,
not moving forward with any sort of athleticism, potentially getting
even older if we get the guard that everybody thinks
we might end up getting. But I still think that
it's I still think that it's a good maneuver, and
I think that it does present a lot of optionality
and some interesting depth for the Clippers in a way

(08:47):
that we weren't going to be able to navigate otherwise.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, he's a real stretch five we have. Now we
can play with the traditional big on the floor and
he can shoot threes and it actually makes sense for
him to shoot threes. So it gives that bench unit
a different look, which is really interesting and makes the
lives of bogged and easier. I think just in terms
of spacing and stuff like that, like there's gonna be

(09:11):
some interesting.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
And pop and pop. We can play five out with
what like what I was getting the we can play
five out with a smaller three bard lineup and still
not be like getting completely crushed.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
On the other hand, yes, totally. How excited are we
to see Zoo and Lopez shared the floor because that's
got to happen immediately, right, Fellas to get out of here.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
I'll say this, If you say the over under.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Amount of games that they are both on the core
together is one, I would take the over.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I do think they're going to try it. Houston has
three bigs, the league seems to be trending back towards
bigger front lines. There's a real chance it will be
tried out there. Uh, and it could make sense for
the right matchup. I don't hate it, like I'm fine
with experimenting with that sum.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
I just the people that are like, we got.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
To do it, that are so adamant, like this is
the move, this is why they're bringing in brook Lopez.
That's where I might pump the brakes a little bit.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Right, let's start to be fair.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Every other big who has been on the roster's sense
of Eatza Zoobots. There has been some clamoring for the
Clippers to play a double big line up.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Remember the tresent Zoom minutes that we had to watch
where they would like two Stooges run into each other
grabbing a rebound, Like it's just Zoo has no idea
how to play next to another big, because why would he, Like,
that's not a shot at Zoobots. We would also have
Zoo and Lopez is the slowest four or five combination

(10:53):
you can possibly think of in the NBA as a
it's a pretty slow on defense. No respect that they're
at the rim situation, but like that's a slow team
on defense.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, it's definitely the ninety ninth percentile of slow.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Front course, Batum is back on the two year, eleven
and a half million dollar deal with a team option
on the second year, which is interesting. So maybe that
that contract's interesting because maybe that becomes there's a move
to be had where he's an expiring or something. We
don't know how things shake out with teams over two
years obviously, So I think I like the Batum contract

(11:33):
the most, not that I dislike the other two, but
I like the possible flexibility of the Batube one. And God,
did we need to resign him? Also?

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it seems expected, but it was
still like a relief. I mean, it's one of those things. Again,
That's why I'm saying, it's hard to imagine anything other
kind of than a c really like and for this
Clippers off season. So the fact that that they've done
better than that is great. And obviously I'm over the

(12:05):
moon to have Nick Patun back, but I didn't really,
I didn't seriously give a lot of consideration of Hims
going somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Him and Harden were kind of like they're coming back.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Like I do want to say, I think some people
present the Niko Batum resigning as a token. Ah, he's
a good fan friendly guy, He's a Clipper. He's a
Clipper lifer. It's like, no, if he wasn't coming back
to the Clippers. This isn't some courtesy signing where he'd

(12:36):
be out of the league or something like that. A
team with championship aspirations would have given him the same
money or more to bring him in money because he
is that valuable.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I think he could have made more money to the
right team.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Shout out Lily Patum.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I mean, like, what you know what team couldn't use
you know, just a slightly above that man four who
can guard up, pass the ball and like just glue
together any sort of like secondary unit like ulture setter.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Like it's a we Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Because of Patums, the list of teams that would turn
down that guy if they had the money is pretty short.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
And the h the list of power forwards the Clippers
would have on the roster would be even shorter. If
Nick Watub was not on this team, it would be
one and that would be Kawhi Leonard because he has
to play the four hardened deal also one of the
more like obvious. He's everyone said probably gonna be two years,

(13:37):
around eighty million, two years, eighty one million dollars. I
have no qualms with it. Everything lines up with this
window that the Clippers front office has said was gonna
line up. So like, this is it for better or
for worse these next two years? This is the team.
Maybe Brook Lopez switches, who knows, but that's the core
of the guys, and that team, as Adam said, could

(14:00):
win fifty five games.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
And you know, it is a new CBA world we're
living in where you really should be looking at the
percentage of the salary cap that somebody's contract takes up.
And I think he's taking up slightly less, even though
he's making more of the salary cap this year than
it was last year. So that's an important note. I

(14:25):
know a lot of people are saying, like, what type
of team friendly deal is this? What do you mean
he gave back money. It's like, guys, first of all,
what position or where are they pivoting to if they
don't have him? That is going to make the Clippers
as good as they are with James Harden offensively for
at least having a real floor to their offense and

(14:46):
knowing how they want to play, and that system is effective.
So I'm happy for James Harden and the Clippers getting
this done. And it fits within the Kawhi leonderd timeline.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
It's exactly the other thing that you have to consider
about the team friendly thing is the years. The years
at his age very team friendly. And you could not
blame a guy for taking more, like for taking more years,
even if it was around the same forty a year,
because you're talking about an extra forty million dollars, like
at least so I I.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
And the second year is partially guaranteed, but we don't
know how much it's guaranteed.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
That's cute.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, that's huge. I mean, it's a it's a very
team friendly deal. And I think if you watch the
regular season, there was no there's there's no better option,
and not that I'm disappointed in the option at all,
Like it's it's it's a great option.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah. Would you rather have Norm and Harden as your
starting backcourt or Chris Done and Norm Powell because one
of those sounds a lot better than me for eighty
two regular season games, no disrespect to christ but.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Or if the backup options are Trey Jones or Dennish,
they're not as good as James Harden.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
They're not giving you.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
That system the same way and as much as we
were disappointed with Game seven, he only I think had
eight points. He wasn't aggressive enough offensively. Some of that
was because you go back and watch, he's being doubled
a lot, He's making the right play. He had thirteen assists.
He easily could have had twenty with all the misses
that were happening in that game by some of the
guys that he passed to that had open looks. And

(16:28):
he went all out in Game six and played forty
seven minutes in an elimination game there and was spectacular.
So I just think we should frame it a little
bit more fairly. Yes, it was a very disappointing Game seven,
and he has not been good enough in his career
in elimination games. Also, Game six was an elimination game,
and he pulled out and helped get them to a

(16:49):
Game seven, and four of the seven games in that
series he was at least solid to very good.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
I like that you guys mentioned the years because that
is a very team friendly thing. And there were some
centers the Clippers missed out on right that some people wanted.
We had the number one guys we've been talked about.
Capella didn't come to the Clippers but it was a
year's thing. Lopez taken the two years because I'm sure
that younger centers who the Clippers maybe could have afford

(17:17):
on a per year basis, but not for three years
like that doesn't fit. It all just fits now, and
I'm sure there's gonna be moves. This will not be
the same roster to start next season, the twenty six
to twenty seven season. I'm very confident of that.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
I like Lopez a lot more than a potential Capella signing.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, I mean yeah, I do too, Capella. The people
fans of teams that Clint Compella is not on, I
think overrate Clint Cappella into how good at actual basketball
he is currently because he seems like a fix all
for your center problems if you have a center core
you don't like, can't shoot threes, can't shoot threes?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, dynamic.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Even though he's older, there's a real argument to be
made that he's the better player.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Do I saw a funny tweet and then we're going
to talk about what's left for the Clippers to do.
That made me laugh because the front office has been
telling us what they're going to do with this team
construction for the last year or so. I saw a
funny tweet that said after the selection of Janick Conan Niederhauser,
who Adam and I did a great breakdown on on

(18:28):
the live stream after Yanick was picked. If you haven't
checked that out, check it out at YouTube dot com
sac Clippers podcast. They said, after the selection of Yanick,
I see the direction the Clippers are going in is
to stay put and run back the team cores from
last season. Why did it take you until the draft
to see that? The front office has been as transparent
as the front office can be in terms of telling

(18:50):
us what their plans are. Like sometimes you just have
to believe the GM and the owner. They're not tanking,
they're running the core back. We have a window. They
think we have a window for two more years. It
shouldn't take the draft.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
And like, did they make calls on other guys like
they did? They explore moving some of the other pieces,
and of course you know, of course they're going to
do their due diligence. It's a good front office. But
I just don't see another path. I just don't see
another path without a hard reset, without committing to a

(19:26):
hard reset, and we had no indication the entire time
that that was going to be the direction they were
headed in. So I don't know, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Just don't make it harder on yourself.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
I'm also not even sure if technically they can do
a hard reset without having some postics like, yeah, do a.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Little bit of deduction, use some rationale. This was the
direction they were always going, and it makes a lot
of sense to go this way. Now they get into
the season and by the trade deadline they're ten games
under five hundred, right, then maybe they pivot at that point.
Then all of a sudden, James Harden and Kawhi Learn's
contracts are a year and a half left with an

(20:08):
expiring in there.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Like then it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
To continue to try to be competitive and be a
little bit better in every area. So now you're a
top four team and you have home court in that
game seven next time.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Ooh, that would be nice. And there are some concerns
with the oni, which we'll talk about the third segment,
but that's not for now, that's for later. Any final
thoughts on the what the Clippers have done before we
get into what's left for them to do? Big Sam, right, Yeah,
girl's a big fan Madam Anything.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I tweeted this out a little bit earlier, but it's
interesting to see the level of patience and we'll see
how long they hold on to the five point three
million left in the mid level exception because they gave
Brook Lopez nine million per year over two years. But
to me, it's kind of a little bit of a
micro cap of the overall plan. They're trying to have

(21:03):
a little bit of flexibility. They're being patient and opportunistic
to see what can come about during this summer, just
like overall, they're kind of holding back a little bit
from spending too much that could ruin a timeline in
the future or hurt themselves in the future. Like they're
kind of the same thing, just it's it's a micromachine

(21:23):
edition of it that they're doing right now with holding
on to that five point three million. But maybe by
the time we're doing this podcast, hey, they use it
on CP three or somebody or a Horford comes to
the Clippers out of nowhere, like, but I do like,
I like what they're doing right now because who knows
what happens with Bradley Beal. Sounds like he could be
bought out, there could be more unforeseen options coming up

(21:45):
if you want to have some dry powder.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Was micro machines That ad with the guy who talked
really fast.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Also in Transformers of the movie nineteen eighty six, my
favorite ever, he played the character called Blur.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
There we go. Makes total sense. You learn something new
on Clips and Dip every single time you listen. Is
it about the Clippers? Maybe? Is it about niche things
that we like? Eighty percent?

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Coming up, we're talking what's left for the Clippers to do?
And then after that we're talking dips in the summer
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Speaker 3 (22:30):
All right, welcome back into Clips and Dip. We're talking
about the cap. We're talking about what potential moves are
left for the Clippers after what has been the majority
of their of their off season moves and talking about
a mere coffee could he come back? But let's talk
about this cap situation right now. The Clippers were able

(22:51):
to open up the full non taxpayer mid level exemption
and they currently have about a hair over five million
box left with, which really ain't too shabby.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I'm happy they have the five point three I like
what Adam said about it being flexible, and getting brook
Lope has made me wonder is re signing a mirror
more of a priority now to up the low amount
of athleticism the Clippers have at the possible wing position,
because right now Derek Jones Junior is in line for
the most transition buckcas he's ever had in his life

(23:27):
because no one else will be able to run with.
But that's the case, I'm resigning a mirror now.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
I'm of course fine with that.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
I like a mirror.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
It sounded like he wasn't long for being a Clipper,
and hence that's one of the reasons they didn't blame
him in that playoff series against the Denver Nuggets, right,
So if they bring him back, I'd be a little
bit disappointed. Like, Oh, I thought he was being bubble
wrapped because he's gonna be a free agent. He wants
to get paid this summer and that's why he wasn't
used in that series. Maybe that's not true and it
was just matchup and he was coming off an injury

(24:01):
and played like one minute against the Golden State Warriors
in game aty two. But if he comes back, he's
like the ninth or tenth guy. And even though he's
one of their better athletes, how many minutes is he
getting per night? I think you need to find somebody
that's going to have more usage and then also bring
that athleticism.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
That is a fair point. He did just post on
ig like a neon sign that says your time is coming.
So maybe, as Adam said, as soon as we get
done recording this, there will be some news. I like
that point that you said about his usage, because if
the athleticism is just on the bench, it's not really athleticism.
It's just athletics sitting down. I guess, well, where are

(24:44):
you at on it?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah? I didn't interpret that his low usage in the
playoffs is a bubble wrap thing. I mean, he had
kind of been working his way out of the rotation,
out of the rotation since coming back from that injury,
which happened that sort of an unfortunate time for him. Uh,
And he didn't look you know, he didn't look as
good he certainly was. There was a drop off there defensively,

(25:09):
and it's kind of just been you know, I feel
bad because as much as he has developed, it has
been sort of a victim of circumstance with sort of
a surplus of kind of overlapping talents with what a
mirror can really provide. So I definitely wouldn't be mad
at the resigning. I would just I would just prefer, Yeah,

(25:33):
if we got somebody who was going to have a
little bit more utility.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
To Adam's point, if he came back on a veteran minimum,
he would make less than he made the last couple
of years, which we thought was a bargain for a
mere Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
So last contract was like two million dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
I thought it was like four years. Oh so three years,
four milliona yere.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
I apologize three for eleven, so three point four three
two point six and the last year was three point nine.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
It would still be less.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Uh well, yeah, because the vestal minimum if you have
ten years in the league, I think it's.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Three point three.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
They gave.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
If they gave the five point three the rest of
the mid level exception, how would people feel about that?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I guess we also still need a backup point guard too, right,
do we like, do we trust Bogie in the regular
season in norm and combination of Christine to set that
stuff up.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
I hope that that. I hope that that's enough. I
hope that it's that's enough for its time to jettison
the guard.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
That's fair. I mean, I like that logic.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I mean we did say, yes, they need to upgrade
the guard position. Lot Murray has talked about it a lot.
They were looking at that in the draft. They got
Kobe Sanders.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
But they did get by last year, and.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Granted a lot of that was because James Harden played
so many minutes. If we want a chance to ramp
that down, though, I think they do need to have
somebody that has more seasoning at that position.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Are you where you guys at on Chris Paul coming,
because apparently the Chris Paul thing is kind of weird.
He wants to start, which I don't think any of
us complaining, right, Like, that's what he's been doing. He's
very good at playing point guard. It's between him and
the it's beeing us and the Suns. What do you
think the Clipper shot is here? Because he's not I

(27:39):
do not think he's starting. If he comes here, you
can't put Harden at the two with how the team
has been constructed.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I don't think you go back to the Houston days
just just seven years later.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I wouldn't totally put it out of the room. A possibility.
I would say it's unlikely. Sure, But it's really about
what does he want more being in LA or starting
and being close to LA and Phoenix another place who's
comfortable at.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
And if it is a start, Like, what is he
expecting from you know, said starting role? Like does he
just want to be announced with the starters? Because you know,
I think we've seen this team manage rotations in an
interesting way or a way that can be beneficial enough
to where maybe you could scheme around that, maybe you
could make that work. Is he looking for, you know,

(28:35):
in terms of usage and production the role of a
starting point guard, you know, talking thirty thirty two plus
minutes a night, you know, controlling, you know, like twenty
percent usage rate or something that I'm not really seeing.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, he was at fourteen percent usage last year. Yeah,
which makes sense on the team aspect where we got Harden.
According to Basketball Reference, played shooting guard fifty three percent
of his minutes last year, but I those are a
little do not trust that at all because he's bringing
the ball, like you know what I mean, Like in

(29:14):
my head, shooting guard is not I think that.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, I'd look at what, like what's his usage rate is?
Like I would say it's the bigger right.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think that's what the the positioning on NBA dot com,
sad or whatever, that he was the shooting guard. But yeah,
he was initiating the whole offense. Yeah, maybe it's like
a Gortat start, a more respectful version of the Gortat
start for the people who remember the Polish Hammer's tenure here.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, I mean I could see him being the first
sub out. He could you know, he would get significant
time being the guard when James Harden is on the bench.
But yeah, as far as like a twenty percent plus
usage rate with like starter little minutes, I don't see that, man.
I gotta be honest, I don't see that on a

(29:58):
contender really any where at this point of his career.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
And what does the defense look like in the CLIPS
system too.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
That's the problem, right, how do you have that starting
backcourt of he and James Harden. I know some people,
and then is norm yea three or now he's back
to coming off the bench, he's gonna be still here, Like,
so you have DJ in there or Chris done, and

(30:26):
then Kawhi and Zubas. I just don't love that as
your starting backcourt. There was a real issue with him
in the Golden State Warriors when he came there. Would
he be starting or not?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
I don't know if they want to go through that either.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, because it's it's gonna ruffle someone's feathers, and do
you you know what I mean? Like he's a guy
who he's been a good teammate. Obviously, he's not like
someone who's gonna blow up or something like that. I
don't think if you were, but I guess does the
does him go into the Suns also depend on what
happens with Beale because that seems messy as hell right now.

(31:03):
That's I'm so happy the Sons are in a free fall.
I love.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, who would you rather have in the backcourt there? Oh,
good question, Chris Paul and Beale or Chris Paul and
James Harden Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Chris Paul and James Harden, because yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, tenable with Phoenix. I think that's over one way
or another. They're just going to send him home or
they're going to buy him out, and those are the
re porch that are out there. I don't think he's
coming back, and.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
How much so like the waving so Keith Smith, thank
you to Keith Smith for this and for the idea
to have the bubble at Disney World. Keith Smith said,
waving and stretching is the issue with Beale. You can't
carry more than fifteen percent of the cap and stretched
money Beal makes sense.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Jeams would shoot themselves their absolute foot off.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Beal's full them out. Plus the stretched money Phoenix already
has on the books as too much. In order to
be able to stretch bal they would need him to
give a chunk of his salary in a buyout, and
that chunk is like twenty million dollars, which is not unprecedented.
Griffin Blake gave back twenty uh somewhat. I can't remember

(32:18):
who else when they gave back like nineteen, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
But.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Oh, was he going to be trying?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
How much of that is he going to be trying
to make up the difference in with his new team?
For instance, if the Clippers are interesting. According to Omyonga Suit,
they're monitoring the situation so well. DeAndre Ayden he took
ten million less off of the thirty five million he
was going to make this year with the Portland Trailblazers,

(32:49):
and the Lakers kind of made up for it, giving
him like eight and a half, So we only lost
a million and a half.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah. Yeah, different scenario though much. It's much different than
twenty million dollars. Yeah, you've been making Yeah, it looks
like even if you've been making max money, I still
think it would have to be a consideration, a very

(33:19):
huge consideration.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
And does it depend if things are going well with
the team or not, you know what I mean? Like
if he's like, I hate it here, but you guys
are also not making my life easier, so why would
I give you any money?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah? I mean that's the thing too. I'm not privy
enough to what those internal conflicts were. Like, Like, I
don't think that it was necessarily as bad as some
reports have suggested, but a team with that much talent
underperforming that harshly and just the sort of tumultuous situation
that we understand Phoenix to be as a franchise in general,

(33:51):
you gotta assume that it's not like it's certainly not
a place you're taking a pay cut to want to be.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yes, yeah, I don't think I mean there, Yeah, the
report that there was fist fights like that, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
No, that's what's overblown to me.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
But the vibes cannot be good.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I take any locker room where you're losing a lot
is not a fun locker room. Maybe if you're like
a young team, but yeah, maybe if you're like a
young team or something like that. But if you're a
team that has you know, made uh made a finals
within the last half decade, you have the one of

(34:30):
the largest payrolls in the game, a bunch of vets,
and you're losing a lot, that is just it's not
It's not a good recipe for a great locker room.
I think the other consideration, too, is gonna have to
be like, what does Devin Booker want? Because if Devin
Booker wants Bradley Bradley, they're gonna do you know, they're

(34:50):
gonna do I mean, at that rate, wouldn't you almost
just like take a loss on a trade, Like on
a trade you know what? I mean, like I don't
think you you can't attach an asset, but you take back,
you take back slightly more money if you can cut
you know what I mean, if you can trim here
and cut there, and so you're lowering your overall if

(35:14):
in the aggregate you can lower your overall sort of
cap burden more than that that fifteen percent. But at
the same time, get Bill gone. If that's what Booker wants,
I mean, that's what you're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Risk losing another you can't risk losing well.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I just signed him. I mean they signed with Devin.
Booker's chilling in Phoenix. He does not care. I think
he has enough money.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
I don't know that that's true though that's fair. And
if we know anything about like these long term contracts,
you know, like it's movable to a certain extent, yes,
like the team has the control, but at the same time,
like not really man like a superstar with four years

(35:56):
left on their deal can still I mean, depending on
the level of play, either I can can, uh can
kind of move move mountains if the demand is loud enough.
So I think with this right, we don't have a
tangent there. We're talking about Devin Booker. What's the hell
kind of podcast is there?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
So I think just to bring it around. Uh, I
think the Clippers probably stand pat and keep that five
point three. Like Adam said, I don't know. The most
likely scenario is Chris Paul obviously coming to the Clippers
versus compared to the Bradley Beal scenario. I would prefer

(36:36):
Chris Paul to Bradley Beal because we have much Bill
is a good shooter, though it's weird. Uh, I guess
it's between the two. I hope it's Chris Paul, but
I also think more often than that it's going to
be neither. Yeah, which is not a terrible thing nostalgia wise. Sure,

(36:58):
big loss.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Although if you did get cut, like, what better revenge
would there be than playing against a rival, a conference rival. Uh,
even if it's not in the role, I'm sure that
you prefer.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
That is a he would be motivated, you would think, Yeah,
the most hilarious outcome is he somehow ends up back
in Washington. Yeah, of course, I mean that would be great.
That's just a good time. Okay, anything else before we
move on to the next segment that also hopefully includes
Adam alson to that.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
No, I think I guess The one other thing is,
if you maintain a roster spot and you have five
point three million to play with, can you get involved
as like a third team in some sort of other
trade where you take on some money, where you're able
to take on a little bit of money and maybe
you can milk an asset out of it, even if
it's a second round pick or something like that.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Well, you know, like s, teams need facilitators and they
need people who are you know, who are under the
apron to be able to do some things. And yes,
five point three million is not a lot. I'm not
saying that you know it's going to be a world
changer or anything, but you do have some optionality there.
If you do miss out on two actual players, who
could you know, if they were willing to play for

(38:18):
that amount, who could contribute? I could see either one
of them obviously contributing to this team in some way,
just not in a starter capacity.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Maybe we get in on that supposed seventeam trade that's
going to go down with the Rock, which also can
I say I am thirty five years old, I'm too
old for a seven team trade.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
I don't Someone is going to have to put together
a spark notes for me.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I need the spark notes of it. I need an
infographic of it. I don't care. Give me seven individual trades,
love that seventeam trade. I'm too old for it. Oh
my god, Adam's driving.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
He's driving to execute this.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Joe Peggy ran in lethal weapon right now on technology, like,
I am so annoyed, and so I said.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Albody's fucking me over. Come on T Mobile, help me
on here, Team MO will help our guy out. Coming up,
we're talking the Clippers summer league roster and our dips,
which I have a feeling I don't know if the
dips made it too Adam's car, but that's perfectly okay.
Technology has been his enemy today and he doesn't deserve

(39:28):
that trouble, and I don't think he should be burdened
with this. If you're listening to us, to canna a
quick audio break, YouTube, there's no audio breaks. So we're
talking the summer league roster in dips coming up in
three two one.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
All right, we're back in Clifton Dips Segment three. I'm
introing this one too, and anyways, let's talk to me
about summer league. Charles. Are you how excited are you
about this roster? Who is going to be the MVP?

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
What are you feeling?

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Were?

Speaker 1 (40:00):
So it starts July eleventh, and we're gonna talk about
the ticket prices after we run through this roster because I.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Have am tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I have a bone to pick with whoever setting these prices.
So the Clippers summer league roster is Kobe Brown, Jordan Miller,
Cam Christy Yannick Niederhauser. You got Kobe Sanders, Trenton Flowers,
Patrick Baldwin, Junior tel Fort Poolicitis Xavier since them, Isaiah
Brockington and Juwan Gary. Let's start with those first two names.

(40:28):
Kobe Brown and Jordan Miller should absolutely dominate summer league.
And I'm a little curious as to why they're on
this roster. And that's a compliment to them. Yeah, I
think it's a compliment. But why are they on the.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
What's the record for most summer leagues?

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Adam, we're talking the summer league roster Kobe Brown and
Jordan Miller. Good sign they're on the roster. Adam's gone again.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
I'll answer for him, terrible hate both players, Adam, why
would you whoa?

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Uh? Is it odd they're on the summer league rosters?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Not really like they you know, they they're looking for
a spot like anybody else.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
I think it's fine, but they're too good, Adam or
Jordan Miller and Kobe Brown too good for Summer league.
Summer League.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yes, I predicted they would not be on the roster.
I predict they won't play as much as some of
the other guys. I predict if they're doing this.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
And that's not what you said earlier.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
He's just yeah, we'll answer the question for you. And
you said that they're gonna win MVP.

Speaker 6 (41:35):
If they do play heavy minutes, then they should win
Summer League because they made the playoffs last year and
almost won it with them third year players who are
twenty five do not typically.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah, I thought that you might like cap out like
I I. I mean, I that's why I was wondering
how long you can play, because I don't know if
there's any sort of cap on the amount of years
and you play summer league, especially if you are an
NBA if you you know, are appearing in NBA games.
I mean, not that they've been a lot, but.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Well, remember that year, was it the Jazz who assembled
like the oldest summer league route like Michael Beasley. I'm
going to type real quick to find it because I
know that annoys me was something to mute, but like
that was insane. So I think it's unlimited, right.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I mean, yeah, I think it is. I had always thought.
I mean, I guess just because you you you don't
usually see it. But generally, I mean I feel like
after one or two years in the league, like you
don't usually see these guys in the summer league. I
mean it's different, obviously, depending on the caliber of player
and how much you you do play.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
It was the trail Blazers, Oh yeah, yeah, the twenty
twenty one Trailblazers because this was after Beasley got waved
by the Clippers. Yeah, that was insane. Shout out to
the Trailblazers were kind of just making a mockery of
summer league that one year. Okay, so those two guys,

(43:08):
theoretically it's a mockery. Why would you have Michael Beasley
on your summer league team? Like that should be investigated
for gambling. Cam Christie, I think in terms of you
take away Jordan Miller and Kobe Brown. Cam Christie, I think,
is who I'm most looking forward to seeing some development from.

(43:32):
I already know that Poulo Kidas doesn't really need to develop.
Uh So I'm actually fine with that Bully bank baby
that euro is ready to go. Man. Uh No, But
Cam Christy, like the shooting is there. We know that
he was good in the G League. I say this
all the time, but like, I don't care about G

(43:53):
League stats, and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way.
They just have no translation to NBA basketball.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
Not that we've seen at all, at least for the Clippers.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Yeah, I want Cam Christie to be larger because he's
part of that this class of Clippers draftees who I
don't know. He's part of this draft of Clippers players
who just like way way too little for the position.
They kind of want to gotta get fatter, gotta tack

(44:25):
on some masks, gotta eat some of these chips that
we talk about on the pot. Cam Christy should be
fun to watch. Yannick Niederhauser, Will Adam, you came in
at the perfect time because we're talking Yanick.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
NBA ready prospect.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Not NBA ready I am. I think people should watch
the pick and roll defense, Adam Haggle, No, Haggle, that's
what people should be watching for Yanick.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
If that gets better, I think you're spot on instinctly.
He has to show improvements there. Seemed like he was
the second half of the season and pencil the top
was so and just to say it, Conan need Houser, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
He's also going with uh. Conan on the jersey, He's
not going with Niederhauser, which I thought was surprising.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Maybe uh is Niederhuser.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Are you in.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Threat of having to do the horseshoe with that?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
You get to do the horseshoe with that many letters, Dude,
The hor that shade jersey with the horseshoe is so tight,
it's great. Yeah. I would do it just with Bockler,
so it would look really shitty. Space.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
It's a very wide, very wide curning.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Okay, I'm gonna ask Adam about Kim Christy what I
think he still might be frozen. So we're gonna move
on away from the comeback. Patrick Baldwin Jr. Is a
guy I'm interested in. Law Murray had a j bbjuh
uh law had had a good tweet. He said it's
a big summer for him six' nine two thirty one
with a seven two, wingspan late first round pick only twenty.

(46:09):
Two athletic testing was a mess at his. Combine definitely.
Skilled what does that? Mean just not it's the opposite
of y on it because yanix athletic. Stuff at the,
combine everyone was like holy. Shit and With Patrick baldwin
it seems like people were, like, ugh you can only
jump that, high you can only do the three cone
drill that. Fast the opposite of. Me IF i were

(46:32):
IF i were a, PROSPECT i would be so good
at the. Combine but and cost TO gm their job
for sure any. SPORT i nailed the. Test but he's
so good at the. Test but like it's kind of.
Bad But i'd be bringing pizza, This i'd be a good.
Rock we just got confirmation And adam that he is
giving up uh not his fault at. All technology can

(46:54):
be a. Bee we wish him. WELL i also maybe
this is just a huge because he didn't bring. It
do you think That, no probably. Not adam's a good.
Man UH i Hope Pat Patrick Baldwin junior's number two
on my list of players Who i'm excited to hope
there we. Go, Uh i'm excited to see hopefully. Developed

(47:17):
yannick is three just because he's a, rookie So i'm
not really expecting. Much but If Patrick Baldwin. Jr could
be good in the sense Of Summer, league not you,
know like Because Laurence frank talked about he alluded to
the young guys playing.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
More i'm.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
My internet looks to be back at. Home everything sounds
fine NOW.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
I reset the routers t.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
WWISE i drove around the neighborhood fucking team mobile and
at and t doing this to me at the same
time as. Unbelievable, Dude i'm so, sorry. GUYS i felt
LIKE i ruined the fucking. Show, god you know the.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Show you're in the crosshairs of the cellular.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Mob give, it but you gotta give us your Summer
league thought that who you most excited? For you could
finish your thought On brown And miller.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Returning we haven't even talked about.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yet the Real greek.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Freak we called that. One we called that happening on this.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Show thanks To chuck's extensive draft, Research.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Chuck you did bring him, up didn't we say.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
That wasn't even on my, Radar he wasn't even on
my top.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Fifty didn't we think he was going to get drafted?
Earlier like there was no way we'd be able to get.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
Him he goes on.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Draft it's fate that.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
Happened it worked.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
OUT i think aside From Kobe brown And Jordan, Miller
Patrick Baldwin, Junior Cam christie And Trenton, flowers those are
the three. Guys of Course i'm watching. Most Trenton flowers
is back and with his, athleticism he's one of those
guys that could have one of those all Time Summer league.

(49:00):
HIGHLIGHTS i remember a couple of years, Ago Mussa diabatte
dropped a huge dunk In Summer. League we're all freaking
out about. It he could have one of Those Cam
christy three point. Shooting, well he got him up IN G.
League he didn't get him in very. Often compared to
how good and how beautiful his shot form. Is that
has to be. Better And Patrick Balwin, junior you, know

(49:21):
his shooting looked pretty good in very limited time at
THE nba. LEVEL i remember that game he came in
and just, like oh, YEAH i knocked him. DOWN i was, LIKE,
whoa that looks different. There and he was a high
draft PICK i think By Golden state a couple of years.
Ago So clippers are betting on that. Talent there those
three Guys i'm looking at very.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Closely, Yeah PATRICK, pbj As will has geniusly nicknamed. Him
he hit five threes versus the nets in That december.
Game very. Funny, yeah and then SO i put yah
is like my third most. Excited Trenton flowers is interesting,
too just from an athleticism, level another thing The clippers need.

(50:08):
Badly so if he could show some, development Because, adam
while you were fighting the good fight against the cellular
and internet, companies what do you Make how much do
you Believe Lawrence frank's kind of comments about wanting the
young guys to be in the rotation a little bit
more BECAUSE i like the, sentiment BUT i do not
see a path unless we see someone average fifty in

(50:30):
the summer.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
LEAGUE i think the formula of having them up in
the bigs more so they can practice with the team
so that in case of, emergency Coach luke can look
down at his bench during a game and, go you know,
what why don't we give him a? Shot somebody else
is in foul trouble hit the. Button there's no real

(50:51):
downside to. THAT i just don't know how often it's
going to. Happen they already don't practice very. Much how
many times are they going to be going going through
something that's not a walkthrough or just a film session
during the regular.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
Season there just aren't that many.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Practices BUT i guess take advantage of whatever ones there,
are just in case somebody shines and give them an
opportunity to battle for a roster spot or for minutes
out there against a. VETERAN i don't mind the idea of.
IT i just don't know if it's going to make
a significant difference to what we've been. Seeing and AGAIN

(51:26):
i always ask this, question who are all these guys
you want to talk About, Musa you want to talk
About Brandon boston going somewhere else and getting? Minutes, Cool
who are all the guys getting those minutes and contributing
to winning that left The? Clippers, like tell me who
those guys? Are like those that has not? Happened, okay,
well they didn't draft him and he's been around for a,

(51:48):
bit AND i don't think that was like a draft
casualty like we're talking about with The clippers and their
process of not having young guys rated.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Much BUT i think that.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
We don't know if it's lack of, development if the
error is with the way coaches for you, guys or
if it's about they just don't have that high of a.
Ceiling and most of these guys are drafted later in
the draft and typically they don't make.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
It and that's all that's happening right.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Now we'll be interesting to.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
SEE i had a question before we get into the
dips BECAUSE i recently learned that a cost of A
Summer league ticket is seventy two, dollars which blows my
mind a little. Bit will that's way.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
For the entire, day, right that's for a.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
GAME i, thought, like when you go to The Summer,
league you get in the, building and like you get
to watch every game that goes.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
ON i, mean.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Seventy dollars for the day seems reasonable for a single
game Of summer league. Basketball that is not SOMETHING i would.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Say let me find the.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
SOURCE i, mean that's. Crazy that's more than cheap seats
at any arna during the regular.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
SEASON i could not agree. More BUT i saw this.
Tweet it was from Hold, on Hold, on Hold, on Hold,
on Hold On, Yeah Diamond. Rangola Summer league tickets are
now seventy two dollars per ticket with, fees and someone
said per. GAME i guess it's daily.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Charge that's exactly WHAT i.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Meant, yeah, yeah so you're. FINE i take it. Back
would you pay seventy two bucks to watch this game
in two other? Games?

Speaker 4 (53:36):
Sure If I'm marty In, Vegas, yeah you're.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Not you're not playing in the. Trip you're already. There
you're walking down the street and, went.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Oh, shit, someone, yeah it was paying for my. Hotel
this situation, Ballmer, Okay, yeah for, SURE i could say
it in the seventy two. BUCKS i get.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
It it's a big. Game i'm. Excited i'm quasi excited
For Summer. LEAGUE i really If Kobe brown And Jordan miller,
played they better not look. Bad they better look like
the best guys on the.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Court like look that you, know this isn't a team
that's gonna have to your, Point chuck a lot of
minutes for developing these young. Guys but if somebody. Pops
it's certainly not another. Question so it's.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Exciting games start On july, eleventh eleven more end up
preview of that next. Week all, right now we got dip.
Talk did either of y'all bring a? Dip?

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Okay SO i have a. CONFESSION i ate MY i
had to eat my dip Before.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Hey dog ate my. HOMEWORK i ate my. DIP i
get it man.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Before the, show BECAUSE I i'm gonna go work out
directly after. THIS i didn't want to have a want
to have a fully.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Sure, NO i believe, you, man BUT i, ADAM i
don't know if you've, heard but will already ate his
dip before the.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Show i'm gonna go to the gym right after.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
THIS i believe. YOU i Believe, yeah what did what?
Dip did you? Make well that you?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Ate?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
CRACK I i actually this is again stretching the realm with,
dip AS i want to do in this. SEGMENT i,
MEAN i made a delightful little tuna salad with.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Salad with some with some.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Not if you're using uh not if you're using little
cabbage leaves as chips to scoop it up as though
it's a.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Dip, also people.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
Eat tuna salad on crackers and stuff all the. TIME
i feel like that's really at that, POINT i would
say that like a cracker is my preferred way to
eat a tuna.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
Salad so.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
Did?

Speaker 1 (55:44):
So IF i make up a strawmi sandwich AND i
cut a piece off of it AND i put that
on a buttery round AND i eat, it is that a? Dip? Perhaps, Okay,
well how about if you wanted us to start A.
Patreon we're gonna start A, patreon but all you get
is episodes where we argue about what fucking dip? Is
it will not be basketball. RELATED i but.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
This was a. Clutch CAN i just give a little
rundown of WHAT i had cooking on?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
This WHEN i had cooking on?

Speaker 3 (56:09):
This?

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Yeah, Go so the key.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Is you can't go for the chunk. Too now you
gotta go for the whole The you gotta go for
the good, stuff not like the pre shredded. Apart so
you get the big the big pieces.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
In there buying it off the.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
Doc, no you can buy. This it's just Pole line
cartoona instead of like the chunk light star kissed.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Two got?

Speaker 3 (56:29):
It it costs more per. Can to, me it's.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Worth it getting price pronounce it, says.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Oh, yeah, yeah. YEAH i mean it's it's more than
fifty percent more expensive than the chunk, stuff but it's worth.
It let me tell. You the flavor is, better the
texture out of this. World i'm mixing that up with
a little bit OF qb. Mayo for, me it has
to BE. Qb you can use whatever your mayor preference.
Is i'm going. CAPERS i like a couple of couple

(56:54):
of tablespoons in. There i've tried chopping them.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
UP i like them.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Better hoole, UH i go choppter in. THERE i want some.
DEAL i want some some classic flat leaf. PARSLEY i
did some lemon, juice probably a tablespoon and a half
a lemon juice uh in. There AND i also like
some chopped. PICKLES i just think it adds the. Texture
the thing with a tuna, salad right.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
MAN i wish you could have seen. It it sounds coreat the.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Thing if you don't believe, ME i will remake. THIS
i believe.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Was, amazing.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
DUDE i will they want a tuna salad? IS i
feel like a lot of people you mentioned tuna, salad
they kind of turn their nose. Up but the thing
is you can really create a symphony of textures going
on in, there and then you got you got something.
Good you, playing you're playing with something. Good, also it's
very hot in my. Apartment i'm very. SWEATY i did
not want to sit here with a tuna salad for

(57:46):
fucking an hour h sweating in the hot.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Sun AND i.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Gotta go work. Out eating a hot tuna salad before
minutes before you go work out is even worse than
a cold.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
One Babe ruth used to do. It he was worked
out for.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Him CAN i? Go since we're stretching the limits of
what's a?

Speaker 1 (58:02):
DIP i also So will Did will brought tuna? Salad
will make a? Salad? NO i?

Speaker 3 (58:08):
USED i? USED i used at it like.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
A staples on a, chip and now it's a. Dip
it does sound. Delicious salad isn't a?

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Salad that's just what you call, it, you.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
ADAM i Also i've pounded in. Online so, Line, adam
what did you go?

Speaker 2 (58:27):
With we're all just terrible ABOUT i thought this was
going to be the only upside to me not being
able to finish the show to do to technological, issues
not to show off my weak ass. Dip SO i was,
thinking like what is a? Dip like what makes up a?
Dip we've talked about consistency. Before is hot sauce a?

Speaker 4 (58:50):
Dip?

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Like how much consistency do you? Need like how thick
does it need to be to be called a? Dip
AND i would, say if you look at, this would
you say this is a?

Speaker 4 (59:01):
Dip what is? That would you say it's a?

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Dip is that just cottage? Cheese it's.

Speaker 4 (59:11):
Creek.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Yogre that's a dip to?

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Me, Yeah well you can't argue after your mental.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Dip so you're just eating greek yogurt with your.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Finger this is your.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
FINGER i don't. Know IF i use a, spoon is
it still a? DIP i don't.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Know that's a good. Question see this is where The
patreon comes in because we could literally talk about.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
This you don't even have a. Chip you could put
in there a.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Question we're the gross. Crew that is what it feels
like right. Now we're eating hot tuna. Salad we got
dips with no.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Vessel this is worse than when we just never even
had dips on the.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
Show what we're doing, today people.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Get to really see because you, know we talk about
the clippers that we're very buttoned. Up it's very. Professional
and then they get a glimpse into our real, lives
which is when we try and we have a week
to buy a dip and we're, like, will doesn't you?
KNOW i went all right, WHATEVER i went right down the.
MIDDLE i Went Randy, NEWMAN i, went, uh you, know

(01:00:14):
bad town home. ARCHITECTURE i just fastball ninety eight mile
an hour. FASTBALL i Went Dean's french. ONION i was
at the grocery store. Today nothing, crazy as middle of
the road as you can. Get as we've done this,
Show i've Actually dean's has gone down in my pantheon of.
Dits not because it's not. Good it's very.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Good it's just as.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Before absolutely we're very busy on the show getting the
low effort. Thing it is low, efforts absolutely low. Effort
BUT i would bring this to a barbecue and it
was pretty. Good well would you bring yours to a?
Barbecue and even talking about, that say an imaginary barbecue.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
If you take, yeah one thousand. Percent but again you
have to be it have to be consumed kind of.
EARLY i, like you don't want to sitting out there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Sweating, yeah, that no one's gonna argue. There, adam would
you bring your finger yogurt to.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
People on THE.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
I THINK i know what dip would do. Good you
know those like what are the green.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Bars there's like an apple granola, bar but it's like
it's like a.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Stick it's like those.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
That are like caramel apple.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Suckers, no they're supposed to be, healthy, uh healthy granola.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Bars BUT i would dip.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
THAT i would use that as the dip for My
Chabani greek yogurt.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
DIP i think that. Works the. Vessel, yeah like that's
that's the chip for a yogurt.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Dip i'm about to screen share as your.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Vessel Nature, Valley Nature, valley A Nature valley, bar A Nature.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Valley, bar dip Into greek Yogurt.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Nature valleys like the super, crunchy crusty.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
One, yeah the one that's like nah, Awesome adam made
a prank dip to cover and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Crumbs listen the Old Carls junior, slogan if it doesn't
get all over the, place it doesn't blog in your.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
Face, Man, God Carls.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Jr they are wild over there with the, ads all,
right do we have any other. Finals let us know
what you're thinking the dips in the. Comments we're gonna
put out a six Hour patreon episode later where we
argue about what is a, dip what is not a.
Dip it should be a good. TIME i think that
about wraps things up. Somehow this was on the rails
and off the rails at the same time at the,

(01:02:41):
end which is what we go for here At clips
and a Third rail, podcast a Third rail, Podcast grip
the Third, Rail, adam thank you for bringing a dip
while also dealing with internet issues THAT.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
I sabotage the. Show that's what it felt.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
LIKE i was so upset the THINGS i said in
the cards that came out of my.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Mouth you were, like, uh what's his name In Christmas?

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Story, Yes Chevy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Chase he is not In Christmas, STORY u.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Budge.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
EITHER i thought that you MEANT i thought that you
Meant chris vacation and the rant that he goes on
when he oh, yeah WHICH.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I wanted to shove A Red rider gun in my.
Mouth that's a lot OF.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Bbs. DIP i got a dip for. You oh, man all,
right we are once again off the. Rails we are
going to be back next week for y'all with a
heavier summer league. Preview we're gonna be doing a live
if we sign a point guard or anybody Will where
can people leave their thoughts on our dip selections if

(01:03:55):
the dips exist or?

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Not, yeah, yeah, yeah let us. Know let us know
your thoughts on. YouTube that's At Clippers. Podcast you can
also listen to us wherever you get your. Podcasts you
have to listen over On apple podcast spotfy go, ahead
leave a little rating to, review but you, know listener.
Watch we appreciate, You we very much.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Do And. Adam one final positive thing for these fans
as we head into what is hopefully a safe for
The jly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Weekend we got basketball and about a week and a, half,
guys we Got clippers basketball in about.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
A week and a.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Half and for everybody obsessed with the young, guys well
you're gonna see him for a little, bit not up with.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
The, clippers but in the Summer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
League you're gonna get a first glimpse and hopefully uh
Yan Ant cohen And, needenhauser hopefully he can play because
he has had that ankle. Injury i'm a little bit
concerned about.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
That but he's. Hurt. Handled, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
They still got five point three million. Left that means
we got time to dream about who they can use
it on. Too the possibilities are, endless. Guys this is not.
Over our summer is not. Over The lakers it looks
to be about over for, them and they got Jackson a's, Back, like,
hey good luck with that. Rotation we'll see if they Trade.
Lebron we can, dream we can still. Have we can

(01:05:12):
dream like the Thoughts will had about his. Dip we
can think about, Anything imaginary, clippers, rosters imaginary. Dips it's
all the, same, man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
It's all the. Same we're just on a big spinning rock.
Dude all, Right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Thank, y'all eat More greek yogurt off your. Fingers, Listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Thank y'all so much for hanging. OUT i assure. You
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