Episode 436: The Clippers Are 3-5 (un)Happy Hour Stream (LIVE Edition)

Things don't feel great in Clippers Land right now...will it turn around soon? Also, why on earth would the Clippers trade for Ja Morant? Is everyone losing their minds?!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
How's it going? Clippers fans, Welcome to another Happy Hour
live for Clips and dipp Maybe Unhappy Hour Live today
on November the seventh. If you're listening to this and
you miss the stream and you want to hang out
on Fridays, which we do fairly regularly now, check us
out at YouTube dot comish at Clippers Podcast. I am
Chuck Buckler. Adam Osm is here. William up Ike should

(00:33):
be here in just a few We talked about this,
Adam before we started this stream. You asked me how
am I feeling? Am I feeling any better the day
after the loss? And I gave you a quick port
respectful No, No, are you in the same boat? How

(00:58):
are we feeling day officially day one of being three
and five?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Maybe we're expecting too much with them not having James
Harden and Kawhi in that game, and just the fact
that they led the half should be seen as a positive,
But it's just the pattern of getting smoked in second
halves or just not having energy to close out games

(01:27):
or to finish off games.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Going back to.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Game one, I mean, they haven't won a road game yet,
so it's a continuous problem here. And then you go
back to starting lineup.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
It's be toom. Everybody wants Collins.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
At least Cam Chirsty played and played well, but there's
not a lot to go off of that can be
seen as encouraging right now.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yes, I like what Alphonso Lopez is saying watching Dodger
Highlights until the Clippers right the ship. It said a
very similar thing, Dad, when we were sitting down for
this one thing that is encouraging, I gave I gave
this player the lone bright Spot award. Last night against
the Suns, Cam Christie looked pretty good and is that

(02:17):
particular game. He's confident, He's putting the ball on the floor,
he used his length on defense, started to finish the
fast break. I don't know how I feel about inserting
him into the rotation, but sure, when people are hurt,
get in there, buddy.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah. I wonder how this is going to go the
rest of the way.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
If Bogie and CP three continue to struggle, is Cam
Christie does he become a better option or at least
just get more opportunities out there. I don't expect them
to keep struggling, but if they do so, you need
to pivot to Cam.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
That could make sense to me. I thought he looked
great in Summer league.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I thought he looked you know, he looked good as
first Summer league, and then last year he really improved
in areas we were looking for this past summer where.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
He's getting downhill.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
He put on a little bit size. His defense was better.
He was in attack mode and you saw that in
that play and transition. Yeah, yesterday up in the big leagues.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
That was great to see. It didn't look like the
moment was too big for him.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I like what clip Show for Life said here, who
was also the first one to comment, congratulations, clip Show
for Life. Tip of the hat, don't even care if
they win. The blowouts are the thing that's infuriating. Yeah,
as Justin Rousseau, our favorite French Canadian reporter pointed out,
it's been the same. They've been three and four of
the last like four years in a row or something
like that. But if you look at those lines on

(03:48):
Basketball Reference that show you how big you won or
how big you lost, the lost ones are pretty big
for the Clippers, except for one.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Right, they're right in line. They're in lockstep with past.
The first teams that get blown out in Game.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Eight Yeah, they've they've lost a buzzer beater, they've won
a buzzer beater, and they've been absolutely smoked a couple
of times.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, last year was kind of the outlier.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
That was they were down twenty six, but it was
their first win of the season. They came back against
San Antonio and got the victoried into it the first
win ever there. And outside that, this is pretty consistent
with what we've seen, But that makes it all the
much more frustrating. How do you not have a higher
sense of urgency to finally get off to a good
start this season. Well, there's some builts in excuses and

(04:38):
Bradley BeO getting acclimated, and you haven't had Kawhi the
last two games and James Harden the last game. It
just still doesn't feel like I was driving around earlier.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, just just driving, just seeing seeing where it takes me.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Three and five. You didn't stop driving from last night,
that's what.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, Cam Christy drives to the hole. I'm like, I'm
gonna start driving and I'm not gonna stop. I was
coming back from the jam and I was.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Like, what is it? It's hard to put your finger
on one thing when this many guys are underperforming, and
I came up with the hole is worse than some
of its parts right now. Does that makes sense? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, it's it's kind of.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Like better individual talent that is not coming together and
it's taking them as a unit worse for some reason.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, we're having well, they're short guys, and in being
short guys, they're putting a crunch on a roster that
doesn't seem as season or pace as you brought up
on our last chat ready right, Like the death doesn't
seem ready for what the pace is. The starters offensively

(05:59):
seem ready for what the pace is. Not so much defense,
but the depth is getting crunched, and it kind of
feels like guys are over compensating, like I don't know,
Like some of the turnovers are just that hook pass
that Lopez through yesterday. Harden's been sloppy with it as well.
I'm not singling out Brook Lopez obviously, but that turnover

(06:20):
to me is the epitome of kind of the vibe
right now. Speaking of the vibe right now, fellas, William
Mupdyke is back.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
I heal a little traffic on my way back. I'm
here afresh on the new background.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Look at that.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
It looks great, looks incredible.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
We were talking being frustrated about this team, and and
if we felt any differently today than we did yesterday,
how are you feeling?

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Well?

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Still feel like a big pile of shit. But least
it's Friday, you know, so about the same.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
That's fair.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
And they don't play, and they don't play, Adam, thank you.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
It was objectively hilarious that the only NBA action uh
free human beings could watch yesterday was Clipper's Sons. It's
the only game that was that was.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
Scheduled primetime TV. Baby, the hot button issue prevalent through
the slow start. When are we gonna get serious and start?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
John Collins? I think we got about fifteen more games
before that enters the realistic question. I'm not saying that's
the right thing, but.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Two more games.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Let's let's split the difference somewhere between two and fifteen.
But like, there hasn't been enough of the regular starters.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, and if Brad the Beal is in the starting lineup,
who are you taking out?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
I guess DJ for John Collins.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
DJ has been one of the players that has actually
played well so far this season.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
This is not on him. That's a very tough conversation
to have.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
So I it really is we need to start with
Beal is not coming out.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Coach Lou made that abundantly clear recently.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Unless that changes, you're talking about taking DJ out of
the starting lineup.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Therefore, you don't have a point of attack defender. It's
not the defense has.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Been good so far. But in theory you want one
on the floor. So there's a trade off there. If
you want John Collins but you don't want DJ.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Will are you on start Collins? The starter's defensive raigning
right now in sixty three minutes is one hundred and
thirty one with Derek Jones Junior on the court. So
I don't think taking him out.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
I mean, this is like what we've been talking about
since the acquisition.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Really, Like, you know, if you want to completely switch
with the identity of this team, is sure it makes
sense take take DJ out from what we've seen so far,
you know, like knowing that Beal is going to be
the starter, Like, I don't really see how that's the answer.

(09:21):
And I also like, I know we're gonna talk about
this fifty more times this season, but it doesn't matter
it really, I just I have to be honest with you.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
It doesn't matter who's starting, Like, uh, the.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Clippers will be bad anyway.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
The Clippers will be bad anyways, and we can, like
we can game matchups around it, like it doesn't it's.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
You're Bruce Willison uh in jumper right now, It's.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
A it's a paper tiger. The start the starting five
is a paper tiger.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Like you can, like, it's more about how the minutes
are distributed.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
And which has proven difficult too, because which.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Has proven difficult.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
And Collins has looked really good in the spots that
he's been at, Like it's not like he's being underutilized.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
What's that Kawhi is out tomorrow? Oh boy again with
the right ankle sprain.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
If only for Kawhi John Collins?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Hey, I mean, maybe we do see Colins start now?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Right Like, if it's him or Batoom, it's hard to
make the argument Batoomb's not scoring right now, he's struggling.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Why not Collins.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
We're not even talking about when their whole and what
that optimal starting lineup is. We're saying without Kauai, why
not start Collins?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Now?

Speaker 2 (10:53):
To be fair, you may you may have more turnovers.
Collins has nine turnovers the last.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Two games in some brutal ones.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
So I do think that has to be mentioned for
everybody screaming about play Collins more. And by the way,
he's not Roco. He's already closed a game this season. Yeah,
wasn't playing at all.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Stop it. You are the hyperbolics, talk about it? Come
on now.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
And there has been La Clippers film posted some good clips.
I'm a Collins is another. Collins and Derek Jones Junior
might be the only guys on this list who have
been good for the whole start to the year so far.
He's still learning the offense. He still going to the
dunker spot sometimes when he needs to go to the corner,
which just adds a couple seconds to setting the play up.

(11:46):
I'm not knocking him saying he shouldn't start or whatever,
but like there's still some growing pains. But yeah, tomorrow,
since things aren't falling for Batom, get him, put him
in the starting lineup. What's the harm? Do it?

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Well? Plus James Harden isn't on the injury report, so.

Speaker 5 (12:05):
That is going to be active.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
So hardened real DJ Cullins zubats.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, dude. Yes, doesn't that sound good?

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Uh? Yeah, A lot of stuff has sounded good all summer.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
A very good point.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
It is not panned out so far.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
The paper kings over here, we are papered. It sounds
pretty good.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
The paper Are you yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Continuously?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Are you?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Man?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's okay? I guess what's our concern level for Kawhi's ankle.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
I I did not expect him to miss the next
it was just three straight games. Now, yeah, okay, see
was is it his ankle? Is it a reason to
not play him on back to backs? But he's missed
the next two games? Now what are we talking about?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
And it was surprising that he missed it, like just
giving all the fanfare ahead of time about how he was,
you know, clear for back to backs and he was
good to go and he was gonna play them.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
And then he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
And it's kind of like, okay, I mean that's like understandable,
but now I'm wondering, like, okay, so maybe so that
wasn't just like a maintenance thing. That was clearly a
real issue now and now we're going three games deep,
so it's it's concerning also.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
Because it's just a new thing.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, can we see that. No, it's worse because Adam
and I talked about it too. When I first heard
the like, oh, there's no restrictions for the back to backs.
I was like, put some restrictions on man, Yeah, I
don't want you to play back to backs.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
And then when he got it, was like, okay, they're
keeping him out of the back to back South Smart.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Yeah, yeah, now it looks a lot different. Yeah, like
the on the bottom.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, we're it's season four. We got a we can
make it say anything. This is a classic that I did.
I showed this off the first time when Adam said
something which I felt bad for.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
We need a background. That's just Chuck giving the veteran
the well will.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
They Yeah, we can do that.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
Oh we can do that, and the three of us
all trying to hold him back.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Yeah. Where is the replay? Adam? Did you see the
clip of when he heard his did he.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Go theruter on this yet?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I think it was did he turn it when he
fell to the ground and they got an open three
out of it?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Miami? It was Andrew Wiggins three on the right wing that.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
They saw the replay. Alex Webb, if you could shoot,
if you could go ahead and shoot that replay over.
We would appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I appreciate that he made it clear. It's seem mild,
but I'm no doctor.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah. Yeah, some people say they are a doctor when
they're not, so I do appreciate that. Yeah, this makes
me feel worse about tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
They have to win tomorrow. I don't give a damn.
You have to win.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, Hart in his back, get Collins in there, or
play him thirty minutes regardless, whatever this is. You can't
start three and six and you can't lose to the
same Phoenix team two games in a row.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
No, not at all.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Yeah, what's your cope level with the last loss? Just
given that we were down guys, I.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Mean, okay, this guy's paying us eight dollars super chat.
Do y'all miss KPJ? Seeing how he turned out on
the Bucks. He's hurt right now, So no, and not.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Really seeing out what they lost in the first round
in like five games.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, No, I will say this. I think the Clippers
problems are bigger than not having KPJ. I think the
team would be in a same if all this team.
Thank you for that. We appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
We need it.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
We need it.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
When when when Joannis ends up asking out of the bucks,
I'll remember this super chat.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
We'll put this eight dollars towards Jonas's contract.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
He's like, I'm going and KPJ's coming with me.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, they have to win tomorrow. I thought Zoo was
gonna have a monstrous night last night, but that cooled
off a little bit.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
It was good.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
But yeah, I will say this Bill got like, I
don't think it's coach speak or player talk afterwards to
say he got a lot of good looks.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
He had fourteen shots. Some of them are going to
be good.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, if he gets that shot profile again in a game,
you know he's probably hitting seven.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
So hopefully that happens Saturday.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
It needs to happen Saturday. We got another ten dollars
from Jimmy Williams. Thank you for the Happy Hour live stream.
Clippers fans didn't excuse to drink on a Friday evening. Yeah,
there's no game, so we're your excuse to drink. I
appreciate that. Jimmy Williams. Jimmy's always in the chat.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Yeah what are you drinking, Jimmy?

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah? Will How are you feeling about tomorrow? What do
you want to see tomorrow? Oh? Hell yeah, Alex Webb,
thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Jimmy drinking Jimmy Beam.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
I mean, like.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Again with a short and squad.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
It's hard, but like just the level of execution has
not really been there.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Would love to see that tightened up.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Just maybe not lose or like, did they lose turnovers
last night?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Uh? They definitely did in the third.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
I don't know what the total was because they were
better in the first half. I think the Sun's had
eleven and they had five.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
But has there been one quarter, like at least one
quarter every game where it just gets completely away from them?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, that's what you're right, Jimmy Williams said, Torpedo, I
p a, let's go.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
That's like drinking a pine tree.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Is a two thumbs up for the stinkies.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, all right, let me see. We got this Kawhi
replay the kai An.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Let's see it.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
It's probably gonna look like ship because the video is
pretty small, but I'll do my best.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah. I think I think he falls on the right wing.
Andrew Wiggins gets a wide open three.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
He's right here.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (18:58):
It's kind of tough to see from that ang goal.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
What he got caught up with Harden?

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
He yeh?

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Or does he just land on it? Weird?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Oh he's no, he steps on hero.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
See Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
We got it.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
I was not Hero. Whoever it is, that's a guy
he hasn't played yet. But the Italian guy, uh Nikola Yovich.
I think I thought it was fun. Oh yeah, it
might be.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Let me get some wad Man classic Cat Williams. Yeah yeah,
not I do, Adam.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
How quick are you returning from that?

Speaker 2 (19:59):
I'm at depends uh what type of Uh?

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, I'm out for the year.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
So the Clippers, they got Suns tomorrow and then the
Hawks on Monday. So let's hope he doesn't miss the
Hawks game.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
I'm gonna tell you what, Folks, losing the Suns twice,
on losing the Hawks, I'd be in a pretty dark spot.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
So if he comes back with the Hawks game, that
means he would have missed a week.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I guess that's not crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
It's not crazy, but it sucks.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
It does.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
But honestly, they should beat this Phoenix team regardless. Yeah
at Jalen Green had a great game last night. Jalen
Green is not always like that. He can be an
absolute chucker and a volume shooter and a guy that
actually hurts you.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
And I think Houston was very glad to move on
from him.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
We don't have to use chucker like that as.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
A Okay, sorry, he's a Charles Er, Damn god.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah he Robert Flamm had a funny tweet of something
like losing to j Green is the worst way to lose,
which I thought was funny. People are asking us there
was a rumor that started today about Ja Morant coming
to the Clippers. Maybe please know I agree. We're gonna
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Speaker 4 (21:42):
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Speaker 5 (21:48):
We never left yet.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Uh, but we're talking about this some mumblings. Is there
is there officially smoke?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, Brett Siegel.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
There's some speculative smoke, but to certain.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Brett Siegel take that with a great couple of grains
assault Uh Jason now Jason Uh said another team league
personnel have mentioned as a team to watch if Moran
became available as the Los Angeles Clippers. Steve Baumer is
never afraid to pursue star level talent, and with James

(22:22):
Harden not getting any younger, bringing in a twenty six
year old point guard with dynamic, explosive style of play,
Morant possesses first of all. Chat gpt wrote this.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Is this just reading tea leave speculation, like has some
reclamation projects in the past.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
John Morant kind of fits that. I we would be it's.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
So bad with John Morant instead of James Harden leading
the point because James Harden has gone.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
He's a point guard? Are right, He's a point guard?
I mean highest assist game. We looked this up the
other day, it's like seven or eight assists.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
My concern with John Moran is he is getting to
the basket twenty one percent less of the time than
he was like three years ago, and his frequency is
way down from what it was his.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Highest West program, his highest assist per game is eight.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
He wishes he's not young. He can be a very good.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Player, And I thought a couple of seasons ago, like
job Moran. You know, he's he's one of the faces
of the league. It sure felt like that.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
They had motion. They were like the causes were terrifying.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
And Joe was talking about the West. I ain't got
no problems with the West. Since then, he's missed time
for various reasons. I don't know. I would think it's unlikely.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
If we had job Moran at shooting guard. First of all,
no pun intended, I hope. Second of all, he can't
shoot a basketball from outside.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
Also, look at the Grizzlies. They were largely fine last
year without him. Look at this team without James Harden.
How are they?

Speaker 1 (24:10):
We all we're in a pretty level headed pod. I
feel like, but I love that this is causes so much.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Com This is foolish.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
This is foolish, And I feel like, Adam, You're right,
this is like completely made up. I think reading Tea
leaves is a very polite way to say it, because
it's like because his leaves over there, like because Harden's
getting older, like he's not signed for six more years,
you know what I mean. Like, yeah, there's a pretty
hard stop where all the Clippers' money opens up.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Like the hard end to Harden.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
There you go, and we need him anyone saying.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
Yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing too, Like if
you've watched this team at all, since he's like since
he's been here, including even the Paul George half season, like,
he's clearly essential to what this team is doing. He's
clearly a part of this identity, even though they've built
more of a defensive thing, like he is the system,
so we need at least another point guard of a

(25:11):
similar ilk.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
I just don't understand.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
There is a little bit of a ground swell support
for Jaw from some.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
People in cliper Nation, and I get it if you
haven't watched much recently.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
It's like, it's not like he doesn't have a big contract,
and also, how would that affect twenty six, twenty seven
free agency and other moves they could make in the future.
You're saying they're not gonna be able to make any
so you might as well go for Jaw. But if
his athleticism is dwindling, that his game is predicated upon,
that is.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
I don't think it is.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I think he's definitely lost probably half a step, but
may maybe you know, I don't watch.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Memphis Grizzlies every night.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
He did have the second highest vertical jump last season
in the league average or like now there's there's a
new dunk uh measurement thing on NBA dot Com.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
When I was growing up, you didn't measure dunks great.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
And then what's the spacing around him?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
No, with no hearten, I mean he jumps pretty high.
There's a lot of space on our knees.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Oh, for God's sake, he jumps on his shoulders. We
have an extra tall guy out there.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Will we're putting two level basketball this season because we
looked at this the other nine too afropo of nothing
like thirty three thirty four percent.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I think we were just kind of saying, how it
would be horrible if he was your point guard. His
best three point shooting year is thirty four percent, and
that was in twenty two, and he's taking he's taking
more every year since then, the shot worse. Here's his
last here's from twenty two to twenty three. Admittedly there's

(26:52):
this is this account this year, which is eight games,
and then twenty three twenty four, which was nine thirty
one percent, twenty eight percent, thirty one, fourteen percent this
year yeah, he's not a motivation thing.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
He's a loath. He's a low thirty three point shooter.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Like that's and like he's gonna make Zoo that much better.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
Like he's not a.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Pass pick and roll.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
His pick and roll numbers are really good, Like they've
been really good over the years.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I don't know where they are this year, but nothing.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I think we can throw this year out right because
like this year, yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Fair and awesome.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
He's how many games has he played the last three years?
It's he's twenty plus every oh, I think he's had
a year hsion twenty.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Or thirty since let's go just since he's been in
the league nineteen twenty uh sixty seven games, sixty three
fifty seven, sixty one, nine fifty. That's like we it's
an injury prone guy. Harden doesn't get hurt, knock on win.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
I think Jaw has a legion of stands that just.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
You know, every bad point guard does.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
If you're getting him, if the idea is we're talking
pennies on the dollar because of way things going in Memphis,
but I mean you.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Have dollar because of the contract, and.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I also I agree, I.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Don't mean any disrespect to Memphis fans who like John Morant.
I understand drafting your guy and being like this has
to work. I'm saying from the perspective of Clippers trading
for John Rant to your point, Adam, like it's a
lot of money, it makes the Clippers worse.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
I like this comment from Tony Toms nineteen to twenty four.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
He loves basketball. That's his damn avatar.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
We don't need job with the LA Clippers really need
is last season's high defensive levels. Yes, they need their
defensive floorback. They are are they a bottom five defense currently?

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
After last nice game, I'm gonna check the new advanced numbers.
It's it's bad. And we go from top three to
almost bottom five. This is this is shockingly bad. Even
though it's just eight games.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I still would have been like it worse. They're fifteenth,
middle of the pack.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
They are. We're still twenty fifth.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
That's it's almost bottom five.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
I mean, right there, we're kissing bottom six. We're right
there to be.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
It's on the bottom. We're back.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Damn. I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
We have like three games where we hold teams to
eighty points. We're right back in there.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Baby, Yeah, you rip on us thirteen fourteen more times.
I swear we're at it here. I'm happy we're all
against the jam.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Morane set squeaks from baseball. Yes, yeah, but you're a
little bitch.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Had a hankering for that a couple of months ago
I watched it. First two acts are great, really falls
off of.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
This, I agree.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I felt like that when I saw it in the theaters.
The third act to me back then was like, yeah,
it's kind of what off.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
The rails yet off the rails? Okay, so we're anti job.
People are saying, Trey Young, that's been a guy I know.
I don't think the Clippers are going for anybody. Also,
Jay the Boy saying twenty fifth is still cheeks. Yeah,
twenty fifth is terrible. Twenty fifth is not far off

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from the very bottom.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
And I would like to point out for everybody that
comments type who over and over again in the comments
section and fire TYLERU, I would just like I would
just like to point out that when the defense was
good last.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Year, nobody gave Tyler an he credit. They gave all
the credits to Jeff Van Gundy. Yeah, now the defense
is bad.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'm not I'm saying, maybe not everything is co lose fault.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I think I put this.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
On the players so far this year guys more so
than anything. I just I think it's so lazy to
go after the coaches when you look at the turnover
mix that TOE mayre put out that, yeah, awesome.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
I'm gonna put that in the chat. Actually, Alex Webb
breaking news on our podcast saying Dylan Brooks upgraded for
the game tomorrow. That might help the Clippers.

Speaker 7 (31:26):
Or hurt us horribly, And yeah, I like Brooks, but
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
I don't care who's available for Phoenix. I almost don't
care who's available.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
You have to win.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
They have to win. Uh.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Everybody keeps saying stop defending ty Lewis like, I defend
things that are defendable. They have turned the ball over
for in excess, and I don't put that on the
coaching staff.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
It's put a lot of turnovers. Someone on the YouTube
was funny, they were like, just don't play all the
injury prone guys together, and I was like, I don't
know what that has to do with anything. I don't
know what that helps. What do we he won? We
won fifty games last year and also things are bleak.

(32:25):
I don't think anyone who's listening to our shows recently
should think that we're sugar coating anything we don't feel good. Okay,
this is a good point. Adam is just a fan
of Oregon players.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I wore My Duck's hat in a while.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Like Dynastics and didn't get a fair shot.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Dylan was he did his knee.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Dylan uh was probably one of my least favorite guys
on that team that went to the Final four. But
I like the way he's changed his game in the NBA.
Like certain like Chris On, he was an offensive player.
Comes in the NBA, you got to make your bones
a different way.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
How we felt about Lopez so far this season looks
a little creaky hot to start.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, the preseason, I think the Jazz game, he hit
a few threes.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
He has to hit threes or his like it's pretty rough.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Well the last was it last night? Or okay, c.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Where he hits a He hit a couple of non
three pointers. Finally was that last night?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah? I think so his first three or four games
in Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, that was good to see.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
They just look out of sorts, Like the chemistry is
so off so disconnected.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Which is so weird because it felt like in the
preseason things were simpatico.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Will would you say the whole is great than the.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, we were thinking let's say, I mean from what
I thought coming into this season, Yes, like from from
what we've seen, the some of its parts would individually.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Indicate something greater.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
So far, the some of their parts is one hundred
and thirty one defensive rate. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
And and I thought too, like just with a healthy
off season and you know, full training camp and everything.
Like I I really did not think it would look
this disjointed this early on. And I don't know, Like
I I really I'm at a loss as to what
to even attribute that to because it's not there's no

(34:52):
like major changes or shake ups and the coaching staff,
there's really no major changes.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I mean like like guys been hurt in.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
And out of the lineup for sure.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Like even trying to to you know, like reform these
pieces into the same identity, uh that you had last season,
I guess that is.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
Gonna be like more difficult maybe than I had thought.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
But it just just the on court like product, like
I said, was saying, the execution is just like it's
not been there and it doesn't look it. Yeah, it
just doesn't look very cohesive right now. And I don't know,
I just don't know what that is about. Is it
just I mean, we have somebody making a comment about
a team of unst like, is it just like guys

(35:36):
need to play their way into shape? Like I'm just
I'm really at a loss as to how it looks
just so disjointed.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I want to I'm gonna pour another beer. But Adam
has a theory that I think is correct about why
the team looks slow. Tell me what it's the pace thing?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh their shell shock with how fast the NBA is
moving right now, I could see it.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
In the seventies, right. Yeah, Bro, those cats, you gotta
assert yourself.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Duca's going, Wow, I can't controls Thelippers.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Too, Dude, you can't control the cat, Charles, you should know.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Better than well. Yeah, you can't hone a horse, you
can't control the cat.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
I do think there's something to that, especially for the
older players like CP three out there.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
I saw him moving well in the preseason. Yeah, it
looks like he's overthinking everything, maybe because they're not on
the same page. Offensively maybe because.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
What the hell I think.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
He's shell shot from the way they're picking him up
full court and how many teams are doing it consistently.
The book was out on the Clippers the second half
of last season when it came to this stuff, and
then the league got even faster after they saw the
Pacers and Thunder get to the NBA Finals and said,
we need to do more of this too, And so
everything is pointing in the wrong direction for this Clippers team.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
With how the NBA is trending.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Do we think it holds up though, because the paces
are like pretty incredible right now, and we have seen
this in season six.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
We have seen this in seasons past before too, where
like teams are playing at like a ridiculous pace that's
like twenty percent faster than the season before, and then
it does tail off after a certain point.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Because teams will get tired. I don't think you can
play I don't think four teams can play one hundred
and six pace for eighty two games.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
No.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I agree, it will regress at some point here, and
maybe the Clippers are just waiting for their moment for
that to happen.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
But how long is it gonna take is it gonna
take twenty games? But the real question is is what happened?
Is what's happening to the Clippers right now? Fixable internally
with what they happen.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
I think it is. The amount of veteran presence to me,
would suggest that they're they've gone through ups and downs
before or as pros, right, they should be able to
fix or just gradually fix, right, Like, let's just have
one game where we don't turn the ball over some

(38:13):
absurd amount in the quarter, Like I think it's fixable.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Let's have some fourteen turnovers.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Yeah, let's have.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Something they did when Kawai came back last season. That's
what I hate is seeing it would be one thing.
If it's still all on James Harden to do everything
like it was the start off last season, then you
know there's gonna be turnovers. But they had Kawhi healthy
the first five games and they still were turning it over.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well and offensively, Like you look at shooting percentages, I
think Kawhi and Harden are averaging a combined like forty
seven points and they're both shooting over like it's like
forty seven points on forty nine and a half percent
from the floor. Like the offense, the shooting is there,
and we're remember when we would talk about kind of
wasting those the good Paul Jeorde and Kawhi Leonard games,

(39:01):
We're wasting some shooting wise.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
I do want to say one thing though, and this
is I agree things are bad.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
I don't say it.

Speaker 4 (39:11):
Things are bad. They have not they have not looked good.
How much differently do you feel about everything right now,
assuming everything else stays the same, had Kawhi just made
the shot versus.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
The heat same because we had to have two buzzer
beat like the buzzer beater against the Pels I think
is brutal. We had to win a buzzer beater against
quite literally the worst team in the league, and that
second half was rough. We almost threw that game.

Speaker 5 (39:37):
Yeah, but nobody loses eighty two games.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
I mean, oh wait, no, they won't. But I don't
know I feel the same, because why are we needing
two buzzer beaters, one against the Pells team that is bad.
It's I don't know, man, I would feel the same,
like the record would be good, but I think we'd
be having the same conversation of like, well, our losses

(40:04):
are still by nineteen points.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah, would be what they'd be four and four.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
And yeah, exactly, But then you figure like, but then
you figure no ko no harden.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
I don't know, Like I feel better if Gli wasn't
out tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, that's true. Actually, that's a really good point.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
I didn't expect this.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Ob he's asking about zoo Zuo's had a rough start
to the year. That's been a surprise too, and that
this has been shocking. Shocking is a good word.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
But he also looked completely fine when they went to
him in the first half last night and he had
sixteen points. Like, everything is there, there's nothing missing from
his game. I know.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I guess in the I'm also getting stressed because we
need these damn wins. I think that's also making me
more critical of But he he's had one good game.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
This many players playing this bad at the same time
is just really unfortunate and unlucky and unexpected.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Yeah, as many.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
An old that's the whole is lesser than some of
its parts. Theory, they're bringing each other down right now,
good individual players that somehow are connecting out there on
the court.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Do they need to take the ping pong tables out.
Do we need to go football team that's playing bad
and remove all extracurricular fun things.

Speaker 5 (41:38):
Have Lamar come in there and give a pep talk.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Have Steph Curry come talk about how good the popcorn is.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
I did that for y'all.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
That popcorn you're eating. Dude, play better.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
They need to play defense. They need to play defense.
It's an all starts there.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
The starters.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
And when I say the Stars would be the team
to put that together against.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
You would think, Yeah, was getting to the rim like
Allen iverson yesterday. I was like, what is this? Yeah?
I was like, why are we letting him do this?
Like what the law? Murray had a great tweet too.
There was a loose ball in the paint and he

(42:31):
tweeted something like, loose ball in the pain, I don't
see a single guy on the floor, like and I
think that was more of a comment of just like
how Wa plays basketball, hustle, but like he's got a
point man, Like let's get a little grit with what
we're doing. Not it's that weird dirty shit, but like
you said, like defensive identity.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
When they got off to what were they last year?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Were they four and four? After eight were they ten
and ten something like that. Yeah, we were fine with
it because they were still maximizing their potential given who
was available, and they were playing great defense, and it traveled.
There was a consistency to it, and we finally had
a real identity that should not have regrets to this

(43:19):
point in eight in even which is eight games so far,
it should not be this bad. So maybe it is
some of the little things the hustle plays they're not
doing out there.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Gods just aren't simply playing as hard.

Speaker 5 (43:33):
Do they know how serious it is?

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Are they aware of the stakes.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
I've said this before and people.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
Said understanding the locker room strength of schedule and how
that works, and how you should be playing better than
five hundred during your easiest stretches of basketball.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
And I will say, I think you get myself, little
pat on the back. I haven't even mentioned March yet.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
I knew what was coming.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Though, I haven't even made a restraint.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
The eighteen games in March. What is this team going
to look like?

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Chuck full restraint mockler.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Yeah, you have to make up for these games somewhere.
So if the idea is we're going to take our
lumps to the beginning. But it's going to pay off
down the line.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
We're going to see it in fifteen of seventeen to
close off the season.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Again, he just fifteen to seventeen. The end of the season,
they will get swept in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I don't like like last year they did won eighteen
of twenty one, they get a week off, they still
lost to.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Denver in the first round. What was a very winnable series.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Some games will's birthday.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I would love it if they could find a way
to not some people think, oh, you're more battle tested
if you have to fight at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Wouldn't it be great.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
To not have to do some of that now average
for seven.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, like save it up, store up some energy for
the playoff run if you want to have a long one.
But now it seems like they're gonna be fighting, like
if they're gonna have a chance of getting a top
three seed. Now, guys, oh, oh.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
We can show that one in the door.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Well after eight games, being able to say that and
be like, yeah, it's hard to argue shuck that that
hasn't that horse hasn't left the barn. That is pretty
shocking that after eight games were like, oh, I guess
we're not getting the top three seed.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
It's like, damn, are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I mean, I maybe I am jumping the gun a
bit right now. The top three seeds are eight and one,
seven and two and five and two and four and
five are five and two.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Who are the three teams three?

Speaker 4 (46:00):
It has the same record though, it's Lakers, Nuggets, and
Spurs all at five and two.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Are seven and two, the Lakers being seven and two also,
I saw some Earls have.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Some question marks, but I think the Spurs are. I
don't know. It doesn't feel good. Lakers has passed us.

Speaker 5 (46:23):
By at him.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
I'm wondering if the game of basketball has passed them
by at this point with how fast they're playing out
there compared to this Clippers roster.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Oh yeah, we still have a shot at winning the
nd season tournament. You ever heard of it? You ever
heard of the Emirates Cup. The season does make me
feel punched drunk, just with how rough the losses have been.

(46:55):
Buzzer beat losing on a buzzer beater or getting blown
out is how the Clip have lost.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
If you go back to.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Game five against Denver last season, they have been getting
blown out in the second half of games on the road.
Going back to that playoff series game five, that is alarming,
Like they're it feels like they're letting go of the
rope a little bit.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
We're one game better than the Maps.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Oh my god. That that really puts things in perspective.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
A franchise that made a crazy trade.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Uh, but that's one way to put it.

Speaker 5 (47:39):
But we do have as the Jazz.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, and they have to head to head tire.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah. Oh that's so funny. Uh, Wami is saying, assume
you guys have already talked about Beal. We talked about
Bill a little bit last It was incredibly disappointing. There's
no way to sugarcoat at Uh. It's still I still
wonder what his shot diet looks like. When Kawhi and

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when the full actual starting lineup can string more than
two games together. Start the starting five that was supposed
to be hardened Beal, Kawhi, Derkton Junior and Zoo have
played sixty three total minutes over eight games. We don't
know what the offense like looks like. We don't know
what his shot diet looks like within this offense, which

(48:31):
is what has me a little worried.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Shoot, sure to shoehorn a couple of metaphors together.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Let's do it, dude. We've been killing it with the
metaphors today.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
You've been bringing it over there.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Is it possible to pull out of a tailspin while
building the plane and flying it like.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Tom Cruise could do it? Mission impossible.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
I kind of feel like if they're going to have
a sense of urgency and we already have an injury
going on with Kauhi.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Afc sells out of reach.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Cultsally great at some point it'sin the next week. If
you're still losing and trying to play the long game,
but you're now let's say you're six and ten, do

(49:31):
you just have to go kitchen sink approach every night
and play the best guys available? Yes, and just figure
this out on the fly, which is the whole build
a plane while you flyed thing?

Speaker 1 (49:40):
First of all?

Speaker 5 (49:41):
What else is there?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
I think the metaphor totally hit and if they are
six and ten, they do have to somehow build the
plane while pulling out of a tailspin and not looking
the gift to us in the.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Mouth maybe he was bringing all these old players together
and trying to like re fit the mold of an
identity that was so successful for us last year. Is
the equivalent of those guys who tried to redo the
Right Brothers for play and died.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Feels like that. It's a great story that was man.
I went to the Outer Banks in North Carolina on
a big anniversary of the Right Brothers flight. Not for that,
not for that reason. I just happened to be there.
You're not a fan of aviation, no, uh, and I'm
living it up right now. But these two guys recreate
tried to recreate the Right Brothers plane and they flew

(50:34):
it off a cliff and they dined. I was the
only one in the family reunion who thought it was funny.
Tony Topes is saying, how many more wins would we
need to have to feel like we have righted the
lac ship. We're at the twenty game mark. Where are
we at to feel that you've righted the ship?

Speaker 3 (50:55):
When they're at the twenty game mark?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah? Like, what do you want?

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Plast the record?

Speaker 5 (50:59):
Five?

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Yep? I would feel great about that.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Uh, twelve and eight are better.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Twelve and eight would feel good because that we would
be playing good basketball because we're without Kawhi tomorrow, so
we might lose tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Just win twelfth straight.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I like that idea. M win twelve straight.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Okay, it's just dine straight.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
No, we should win twelve straight too, See Adam, this
is why the coaching is all fucked.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Who is the guy that said we just win? Here's
the game plan.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
That was al Davis? Just win? Baby? Was that trouser?
J Slacks says, just for fun, if we're below five
hundred at the trade deadline, what would it take to
get jaw We already talked about this. I don't think
you'll find that deal. I don't think you could put
three people in a room together in twenty twenty six,
twenty twenty five, whatever it is, and get them to

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agree on one thing as hard as us three agree.
I'm not wanting jamrant on this team, and no disrespect
to the question, because it's been floating around, but that
would be hell.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
I'd have to see what the trade is, but I
don't she's pretty unlikely.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Where's that? What's that?

Speaker 4 (52:25):
If the if the biggest issue is still pace and
the trade is job for Harden and a couple of seconds.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
Sure, well we'll kick the tires on that.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
What you're looking at his contract?

Speaker 1 (52:40):
No, I'm looking I'm in fans bow trade machine, a
better a superior trade machine to ESPN. I'm in too deep.
So John Morant, and we're also just saying, who cares
about the apron whatever? John Morant's at all? Right, So
we get John Morant, we trade Jane It's.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Hard, yeah, John Moran blows up all their twenty twenty
six twenty twenty seven plans. He makes thirty nine million
this year.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Well, and they're also like hard caps, so like the
Grizzlies are also in a weird spot contractually, so it
makes it weird.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
He's under contract till twenty twenty eight, right, it would be.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
So maybe we just push this rebuild back to twenty
thirty fellas we call.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
It good, that is when they get their first round pickback.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Damn. The trade seems hard to do.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Yeah, it's not easy. Clippers have more flexibility than the
Grizzlies because.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
To but despite making the same amount per fans both
thirty nine point four for Jaw thirty nine point one.
And then I'm just going I know that the trade
wouldn't be straight out, but salary wise, that should work.
We're hard capped at the first aprin so we'd be
over the cap. And he and James also can't be traded.

(54:17):
Uh so I guess that would work. Three months haven't
passed since he was signed. He's okay, He's hels laughter
October sixth, okay, fuck fans, but never mind, it'd.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Be I got it. I got a head out, boys,
not just because the jaw talk. I just gotta get
out of here. I got a head out.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Have a good one out.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Duck is destroying me. A love y'all.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Love you promote your show.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah, Ox Sports Radio tonight five seventy locally starting out
eleven were there?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Good bye buddy. Yeah. I don't know, man, it doesn't
feel great.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
No, it feels terrible. Feels like.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
The thing that's difficult is because I'm trying to rationalize.
I'm like, there's so much wrong with the team.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
It's nothing that winning twelve straight can't solve.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Have they tried winning twelve straight? This is a funny
clip clip show for Life has at some good bits.
Elon became the first trillionaire before the Clippers won a championship. Yeah,
whoop do you do?

Speaker 5 (55:26):
Evil prevails in this world? What do you want me
to say?

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Trouser j Slack saying I like j'all and the Clippers
for all the wrong reasons. I feel like if the
league is gonna treat us like villains, you might as
well lean into it. Honestly, Sure, I'm fine with that.
We just turned complete heel, the complete antithesis of the
brand that they've built would be pretty funny. On court, Yeah,

(55:50):
Warblade is saying it wasn't necessarily injuries that he missed
so many games, but because he kept getting suspended for
the off court stuff that doesn't.

Speaker 5 (55:58):
Which makes you feel good.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yeah, that doesn't necessarily make me feel that much better.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Basically hard to get in trouble in LA lost A.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Yeah, well I think it's h ell full heel. I
will Hey, how about this? I would take both kinds
of heel. We turned full heel to be an evil.
We turned full heel. We get some manna and Kawhi's
ankle is good to go, and everyone's at you know,
one hundred shield, one hundred health.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
How worried are you? A hardened as a late scratch.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
A late scratch because of injury or because of the
personal reasons. Either because okay, personal reasons. I feel infinitely
better late scratch because of injury, and like he's tripped
on the way to the arena.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
He heard himself.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
It is unclear why he had the personal reasons. Thing
I hope is everything is cool with James Harden. Someone's
asking why does Kawhi have another day off? He sprained
his ankle, but he's at prudered it not forty five
minutes ago. Pretty well?

Speaker 5 (57:14):
Actually, yeah, go back because it does look not great.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
It looks not great. And it's also like I didn't
want Kawhi to play back to backs. I thought it
was crazy we were going to play him back to backs,
and now I think it shows that he's a fragile player.
And I don't mean that disrespectfully. The guy gets hurt. Yeah,
so don't play in the back to backs.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
It's like a microchip.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
He's like a microchip, dude. Yeah, he's not a robot anymore.
He is a microchip. That is how fine tuned to
is prosis is? So the next five games, the next
six games, break it down, Suns, Hawks, Nuggets, MAVs, NBA Cup,

(58:03):
group stage Celtics seventy six ers. MAVs Celtic seventy six
ers is a road trip and the Celtic seventy six
ers is a back to back. My god, we have
no kawhi against the Suns. I guess the Mavericks is

(58:23):
a way too. So that's five and oh that's a
damn dude, that's a three and four all away for
MAVs Celtic seventy six ers.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Five and oh, that that's tough. I don't know I'd
consider going five and now.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
I mean, JJ, the boys on on your on your size,
that all I heard was doing. I will say the
gallows humor from Clippers fans, we love it.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
I tend to, honestly, if things are going bad, that's
the time for you to bring the VOTs.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
When things are going bad, I would say, I think
we both get better at making things not seem as
hellish when things are going good. It's not as fun.
If I'm being totally honest, I don't want to see
to be bad. Obviously.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
I do think if that shot falls against the heat
and we're four and four right now, it's still not
great and the defense is still terrible.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
And the turnovers are bad, but it feels you're still
having a bad start.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
It feels slightly more manageable.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
It feels whatever the winning percentage change from three and
five to four and four is, it feels that much
more manageable. I mean, there's twelve and a half percent
more manageable.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
Five hundred ball is still better than I can't do
the math on we're we're at right now, punch.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
My gunn window. So if we can go, I think
the Nuggets will prove to be a difficult test. Call
me crazy, and I yeah, we probably split the back
to back because one of the games is also twelve thirty.

(01:00:11):
That's LA time, so it's three thirty.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
That's even crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Well, it's six games because we got so you're we
got Sons, Hawks, Nuggets, MAVs, Celtic seventy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
Six ers for two.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Yeah, four and two gets us to five hundred. Awesome,
right where we want to be where you can Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
If at twenty games.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
We'll be if we go four two at five hundred,
after fourteen we're at seven and seven and so then
then after that we it's six more games.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
So we go four and two and then four and
two again, and that doesn't feel that bad.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
I feel like games, Okay, it doesn't. The games after
that six are at the Magic, at the Hornets, at
the Calves, at Lakers, Grizzlies at home, Mavericks at home

(01:01:31):
that last.

Speaker 5 (01:01:31):
But I mean it would be, it would be there's two.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Back to backs in there.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
It would be incredibly difficult. But being at twelve and
a and at twenty games would be.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I don't think we will be. There's two. There's we
have a back to back over the next six and
then the next six there's two.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
Back to backs eleven and nine.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Fine, fine, we'll go be elevel and Nick saying we're
in the right. We're in the Mario Kart spot. Boys,
we need a blue shell. Is there a blue shell
we can and I'm not even talking about the first seed.
Let's knock out whoever's in that playing spot. Back down
to where we're at. Yeah, Jimmy, Jimmy Chong is speaking

(01:02:19):
some knowledge. Tickets are cheaper and there's less pressure in
the beer costs the same.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
All right, you're making a lot of sense, but the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Beer is all me am I right, guys, I don't know, man.
I hope you win tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
I hate losing of the Sons.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
I hate the Sons.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
I hate how much we played them so early in
the season. I hate that they've won one game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
I really and it's like, yeah, I just I dislike
them so much. Yeah, they're stupid, annoying own her. Do
you have anything else to say about the Clippers?

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Team win more games?

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
J Bo's is saying eight to the party. Is this
a pity party or a fun party? It's a fun
pity party.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
Yeah, it's both. I would say a little call, a
little calm bank.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Appreciate you. We're gonna head out. Thank you eye for
hanging out. We're trying to bring some fun vibes. Yeah
to this this horrific start for the Clippers.

Speaker 5 (01:03:22):
All they need is a twelve game winning streak.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Will what were you drinking tonight? Because it is a.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Happy hour tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Oh fancy, We're like a moro because I just want
another one. Exactly, I had a Guinness and a Mason jar.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
I see that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
That's how we're living over here. Devin's Booker's face is
the most annoying in the league. Don't get me started
on his shoes. His shoes are disgusting. Yeah, We're probably
gonna do a full episode on Sunday, just to talk
what's coming up next week for the clips and reacts
to whatever the hell happens tomorrow against the Suns. Jimmy Williams,

(01:04:05):
thank you for coming through. Thanks you everyone for hanging out.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Well, if people are listening to this, because we are
going to put this out on audio, where can they
voice their thoughts on the quality of this podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
Yeah, so you're listening to this, you can what you
can listen to wherever you get your podcasts. You can
go ahead leave us a little rain or review over
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I don't know if you can review on Google podcasts.
Let me know, leave a leave a review. We'll find
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Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
We have a review that we don't know if you
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Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
We'll read it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
The best way you can see the show is over
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can catch this live, you can you can chime in,
be part of the conversation. But whoever you listen, however
you watch, you know we appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
We absolutely do. Clip Show for Life says thanks guys,
It's great not to feel alone in this Clipper's life
of pain. That's what we.

Speaker 5 (01:04:55):
All signed up for, that's what we chose.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
You didn't join the show if you thought it was,
you know, because of success. Thank you Jon for hanging out.
We'll be back on Sunday. Have a safe weekend and
as always, let's go Clipse.