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October 16, 2023 25 mins
Six blackmail victims are invited to an isolated mansion by a man who knows a dark secret from each of their pasts. On arrival, each is given a pseudonym drawn from Cluedo before being introduced to the blackmailer. Each is handed a weapon, at which point the lights are switched off and the blackmailer is killed. Can the guests uncover the murderer before they all become victims? Brad Gilmore and Jeff Smith have a lot in common. Both are huge fans of the 1985 movie Clue, and both have made significant contributions to the film's legacy. Brad is the author of Back from the Future: A Celebration of the Greatest Time Travel Story Ever Told, and Jeff is the director of Who Done It: A Clue Documentary. In their new podcast, Clue the Movie Podcast, Brad and Jeff watch the movie one minute at a time and break it down. Along the way, they share behind-the-scenes stories, trivia, and their own personal insights. Whether you're a diehard fan of Clue or you've never seen it before, Clue the Movie Podcast is a must-listen.

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(00:00):
Oh friend, what have you donehere of Clue the movie? Wow?
If there's anybody in here, justlook out? Are you hiding? I'm
coming? What room is this?Search me? Okay, get your admits

(00:24):
of me? Nobody to hear.It's behind one of those curtains. You

(00:53):
look, I'll search the kitchen.Hello everybody, and welcome back to Clue
the Movie Podcast, where you breakdown the nineteen eighty five could classic Movielue

(01:18):
one minute? Ante sure again.My name is Brad Gilmore, joined always
by Jeff Smith. Jeff, we'rebreaking down minute fifty one of Clue the
Movie and we're going to get toit here and give you our in depth
analysis. Want to remind everybody thatJeff Smith actually did a documentary about Clue.

(01:40):
I did, and it's called WhoDone It? The Clue Documentary?
We should men. I don't knowif we ever have before. That's why
I wanted to bring it up tomake sure that people. Yeah, that's
why I'm here. Everybody were aware. So, Jeff fifty one, is
there anything that stands out to youon the onset in this minute? Yes?
So we actually have some dialogue inhere, which is nice. Uh,

(02:05):
We've got some some shadows. We'vegot those shadows, not the fog,
but the shadows that we all love. And we've got a line that
is very similar to a line fromBack to the Future. She says,
get your mits off me, notmeat hooks. Well, this is what
I don't understand about that can becauseshe they go into the that's the ballroom,

(02:29):
correct, They walk into the ballroomand it's it's empty. And what
does she say? She says,search me? Right, you've never heard
that expression before? No? What? What? What? This is an
expression? That's an expression? Yeahwhat like if someone it means like I

(02:49):
don't know, Like, yeah,it's I don't know. I've never heard
this in my life. That's amazing. Texas schools, everybody, wait,
way, hold on, okay,hold on, just stop right there.
So you're telling me if we're outand about, you know, taking a
stroll, you know, and andand and you and I are walking around

(03:13):
California, say together, and Ipoint, I point at something, and
I go, Jeff, what's that? And you go search me? Search
me? That means I don't know, I don't know, Yeah, search
me for the answer, because Idon't have it. I will say,

(03:34):
this might be a coastal thing.This might be a year old. Yeah,
I don't know, because because forme, and maybe this is something
that you don't say. If Idon't know, something I might say beats
the hell out of me. Okay, Well, thank goodness she didn't say
that, because he would have probablypunched her in the face. But I

(03:57):
thought that that was just because youknow what I'm I'm glad that you're actually
correcting me on this because for allthis time you've been confused by that.
Not that I was confused about it. I always thought it was lazy writing,
you know, like, oh,search me, So okay, then
we can have the joke of himfeeling her up. I never knew that
this was express that's why. Allright, well I've looked it up in

(04:17):
Brad Gilmore style. Okay, foreverybody here that's just as confused. The
phrase search me is sobiquitous in theEnglish language that it has found on every
list of common idioms except in theGilmour household. It is a situational idiom

(04:39):
for I don't know, in responseto any direct question, but where did
it originate? English has a lotof expressions, usually sarcastic, for expressing
ignorance. Where did this one comefrom? And when I always found this
one clear and obvious? I swearhaving got your keys? Search me.

(05:00):
I don't If you don't believe me, so reach me. Search me.
These are examples like literal, Iswear I don't know where you park your
car search me. Literal, thoughjocular. Search me clearly started as a
particularly drastic way of asserting that youdon't have something. As we all love
drastic expressions and tend to overuse them, it was overused and gradually felt less

(05:24):
and less drastic. Equal stress onboth words, as the dictionary says,
or even stress only on the secondword makes sense, as follows, Search
me for information, and you won'tfind any. It's very strange search me
for information? What are you thinking? I don't like this terminology at all?

(05:44):
This is terrible. I've never usedit in life because I think because
I've seen clue and I'm afraid whatwould happen next? Search me? And
then he puts her up against thewall. And here's the thing. She
allows him, literally searches her.She allows him. First of all,
he was like, don't, don'ttell me twice and then she kind of
allows him to instinct to go upand down a little bit, and she

(06:09):
she gets He gets to about midrib cage to where she says, gets
your mits off. That's where shedraws the line. She draws the line
at the mid rib cage like anythingbelow the third rib is Yeah. She
kind of has like a frustrated likehere we go, welcome to miss Scarlett's
life. Any excuse does she get? She gets. She doesn't act shocked,

(06:32):
that's for sure. She gets inappropriatelytouched the most of the four women
five women in the movie. Well, she's just been squeezing through a bar
area with her professor. Plum famouslyat the beginning gets a little pet pat

(06:53):
which she doesn't really react all thatmuch too, a little bit of surprise.
But that's these two, these twosituations when yeah, and then later
she'll be pretending to make out withone. But that's and then if yeah,
but she's but so she's had advancesfrom Mustard and Plumb. Yeah,

(07:19):
I don't know if this is anadvance though. I think what he's been
to her place, so he wouldbe that. I know. I was
trying to Mustard, Sorry, dI. It was pretty instinctual to be
like okay, but maybe he wasjust waiting for her to say search me.
Sometimes, please search me. I'llbe like, whoops, what do

(07:43):
you think about Wadsworth? I don'treally search anyway, It's not like a
top weird. What do you thinkof Wadsworth's uh wording of trying to fight
off any potential murderers that might bearound him? Stop? So I love
both Wantsworth and and and White inthat scene because I know there have been

(08:05):
times where I've come home and it'sjust me and you hear something. They're
like, hey, I'm just gonnago grab my gun. They'll be right
back. You know, Hey,wrestling team that's come here with me,
Just guys. I know you allwant to beat somebody up, but just
everybody calm down. So that's theirhis equivalent of just look out. And

(08:28):
then White with her, are youhyde? You know? It's it's a
little He's trying to sound tough,which is adorable because he has he's gonna
have trouble breaking down a door layertoo, so he tries. He tries
to be the man. I'd buyit, but missus White seems very scared.

(08:50):
Yes, but who's she talking to? Because before we talked about in
a couple ofistods ago, we talkedabout they're more scared of each other,
but here they seem to both thinkthere might be somebody in that crazy nursery.
Can you can you break down?We had a fan theory. I
think that came in regarding the peoplebeing paired up and then if Vets the
next to die, so part ofthe thinking that Colonel Mustard says is,

(09:13):
hey, look we split up.If one of us ends up dead,
this is war. Pet Cockett's casualtyof war. Will find out who the
killer is. And then after theysplit up, if Vet's the next one
of all these characters, and theI guess the final one of the characters
presently to die, and nobody fingersmister Green for the crime. But yeah,

(09:35):
I mean the plumb does say,uh, you know, whoever's with
the one that was killer might bekilled? Then we will, yeah,
know who the killer is. Sorry, we will know who the killer is.
Yeah, And then I Vet doesword jumping way ahead. But I
Vet does appear dead and and nobodygoes, well it was Green. We

(09:56):
know. I don't know why.I think think it's a it's a whoops.
But that that theory actually came tous on Twitter X from Steven the
lep attack. Mhm, and Inever thought of it, And I told
you that earlier today and your headexploded with the thought. I went,
WHOA, how come I never thoughtof that? Here too? Yeah,
so why does no one accuse Greenwhen they find you BET's body? That's

(10:20):
a great question. Your your guestis as good as mine. Yeah,
Steven failed it. Yeah, anybodywant to, you know, put your
comments somewhere. Well, you takeyour comments and put him somewhere. You
could stuff your stories in a second, mister, there's our Steinfeld. Finally,

(10:41):
finally we made it around here here. This is a little game that
I want to play. Okay,because again this is mid eighties and nineteen
eighty five. I'm going to askyou a couple of questions based on actors
from the time. Okay, andI want you to tell me if this

(11:03):
movie is better or worse because ofthe actor in the movie. So would
this actor make the better movie betteror would it make the movie worse?
You understand? Yeah, Okay,here we go. Are you ready?
Does Chevy Chase make this movie betteror worse? May clue better or worse.

(11:33):
Better if he is Mustard, Ithink I can see him as a
good invester Clint Eastwood, better orworse. And by the way, guys,
these are the top I'm reading thetop twenty nineteen eighties actors, So
go ahead, better or worse.I'm just trying to picture who they would

(11:56):
play as mister Body better dan Aykroyd, oh, everything's better? Yeah?
Or plumb Doctor Detroit or plumb KathleenTurner. Yeah, oh, she could

(12:16):
be definitely on Miss Scarlett for sure. I think she's not better than Leslieanne.
I think she makes a movie worseHarrison. No, this is not
taking away from anyone that's actually inthe movie, but I could see it.
Here's the Ford at that time comedy. He's kind of funny when he's
Han Solodia Jones. But I don'tknow. I think he's too big.

(12:39):
I would think, well, justHarrison Ford'll solve the problem. Yeah,
it would be he would be distracted. I don't think so distracting on h
Chef Steve Gutenberg, the goot.Uh. Now, there's no good white

(13:00):
bestimony And in Police Academy, Boomsburgis always the same guy, even when
he was in If anyone has seenthis movie, you're awesome. Don't tell
her it's me. No way anyone'ssaying it, never seen it, Jamie
Gertz, Kelly long better. Isthis movie better or worse with Michael J.

(13:22):
Fox? Mm hmmm No. Ican't see him as anybody. He'd
be very distracted. He'd be distracting. I agree. Is this movie better
or worse? Doesn't make it worse, just not right. Better or worse
with William Hurt, No worse.Ali sheety think of a hurt? Uh.

(13:48):
She played a maid in another moviecalled Major Order. I don't see
it no time. Is this moviebetter or worse with Sylvester Stallone? It's
mister Body would be like his characterin Oscar. He wasn't doing comedy yet.
Mister Body would be an interesting one, is it? I know the

(14:11):
answer to this one. Is thismovie better or worse with Chuck Norris?
Everything's better with Chuck Norris? Yes. Eddie Murphy ooh, who would play
I don't see a clear character forhim. If he did, like a
bow finger kind of nerdy character,he could have done screen. He's this

(14:37):
is Eddie in the eighties. Thisis like he's one of the biggest done.
If you've seen yeah, he wouldn'tbe distracted, and if it seemed
delirious, I don't think he'd wantto play it. Potentially gay character,
well yeah yeah. These are thehighest grossing actors from the eighties. By
the way, number twelve Emilio estaVez, William Hurt. It was one

(15:00):
of the highest Chris according to thislist. This is the numbers dot Com
Big Chill, big Chill me leohuh no, Leo, yeah, no,
Patrick Swayze nobody braa no. Sonow we're getting into like they're so
young. This is like during theirOutsiders and breakfast clubs and Saint Noveles fires
days. They're too young. Weonly have a couple more Tom Hanks better

(15:26):
he I love eighties Tom Hanks,Eighties Tom Hanks. This is I like
eighties Tom Banks more than I likepresent day Tom. Is he too distracting?
There? Like, oh hey,looks Tom Hanks back then eighty five.
Let's see what's going on with himin eighty five. This is pre

(15:46):
this, pre Dragnet. This ispre Burbs, This is pre Splash.
This is like this is back withafter splash. Splash is like eighty three
this is Bachelor Party Tom Hanks,So that's so maybe, but he's back
then he was kind of like aGutenberg kind of wise guy kind of character,

(16:08):
So I don't know if that fitsin with Yeah maybe not. No,
sorry Hanks, maybe we've got theone you camp in. Let me
go to my next list. Uh. Tom Cruise, absolutely not. I
don't see him in this movie.No okay. Number sixteen on this list,
Arnold Schwarzenegger sixteen. Yeah, it'sworth. I want to see him

(16:37):
do all the dialogue at the end. Can you'll keep a secret? So
can? I? I would actuallylike Which is Daddy DeVito on this list?
Divito's not. Vito's not on thisTop twenty. Number seventeen, Rob
Low too young, too young.Number eighteen Dennis Quaid. This is around

(17:03):
the time he had just done Jossy. I don't see no nineteen meryls or
Randick Away for that man. MerylStreep Reil Streep, definitely. If only
Murders of the Building has taught usanything, she can do anything. Number
twenty John Candy, Uh, JohnCandy. He might have done something really

(17:25):
weird because John Candy was originally goingto be in Ghostbusters, right, in
the Rick Morandi's part, and hewanted to be like this weird Russian character,
and so he might have played ittoo over the top with his character.
Might have been a bit over theJohn Candy. This is a summer
rental era John Candy volunteers. Ihave three more that I just want to

(17:49):
throw a four more that I wantto throw at you, just from this
list. Okay, just had acuriosity where you'd sit on these people.
John Travolta lim It's like so weird. What's the body? Uh play?
He's he's he's sticking out like as. He could be mister body.

(18:11):
That's about it. He was themotorist. That would be awesome. The
motorist isn't a bad fit for him. Cop down, god's your phot That's
actually a good John Travolta has themotorist. Oh my gosh, I actually
like that. Okay, this isone. I actually it's a big name.
This is a big name. ButI think I could see him in

(18:33):
this movie. Michael Douglas, Ohyeah, he's funny. I like I
like him anything. Yeah, thisis You've got Romantic Stone era. You've
got Kathleen Turner, you got Michaelmy final two, My final two,

(18:53):
My final two. Here we go, yeah, as Colonel Mustard, okay
or professional plum, I can seethis individual, but Colonel Mustard jumped in
my head, Sir, Roger Moore. You know what's funny? Michael McKeon,
when we've talked about the casting ofmister Body and it being leaving,

(19:18):
which everybody making the movie thought wasweird because it's a rock star, he
literally says, well, who doyou want? Roger Moore? And it's
an outtakes that's on the YouTube channelfor the documentary. He literally says,
Roger Moore. So because the universehas put Roger Moore back in our laps,
Yes, and whichever party wants,Okay, my final one, kill,

(19:44):
my final one, Roger Moore.Beverly D'Angelo D'Angelo Yeah, oh yeah,
that's European Vacation nineteen eighty five,D'Angelo shower saying good stuff. She's
yeah, she could play anything.Well, there you go. I just
wanted to know if better, worse? Uh yeah, she'd be. Yeah,

(20:06):
she'd be yeah, should be,that should be. I think she
could actually have a peacock. Ohyeah, sass your peacock. Sass,
your peacock. Maybe a little bita little a little bit uh more of
a of a competition there with someof the other ladies, right, not

(20:26):
as innocent as she appears, rightright, Beverly D'Angelo. Beverly di'angelo.
Uh, well, you know what, Jeff, I'll say that even though
we've kind of moved past some ofthe searching of the house, this is,
this is I think the last isthis it? Oh no, no,
because she's gonna missus U SMIs.Scarlet's gonna go check the ballroom.

(20:52):
Which I'm glad because we will talkabout the ballroom next time because the ballroom
is the only location inside the househouse that is not on a sound stage.
It is an actual ballroom and anactual house somewhere, and I know
if we don't mention it, somebodywill. So we'll talk about it next
time since we're still in the ballroom. Yes, so we'll talk about the

(21:15):
right here. Whoa look at them, I'm showing it. We can all
go right there. So next weekwe'll be broadcasting from you should this house,
this house in South Pasadena? Youshould ask, you should ask permission?
Can I go to your ballroom?You know? Uhlans one time somebody

(21:41):
I heard them making fun of someonewho was wearing skinny jeans. You know,
when there was a big ara ofskinny jeans, not just slim fit,
but like the skin tight jegging stylejeans. A a a very southern
family member of mine, saw somebodyout in a public place with the skinny
jeans and felt compelled to say something. And he said, hey son,

(22:07):
because what was it? Hey son? Those those genes remind me of a
cheap hotel. And then the guylooks at him and he's like what.
He goes, I ain't got noballroom. Then he's oh gosh. Then
he said where'd you get them jeans? And he said, search me,

(22:27):
search me. Well, ladies andgentlemen, this is a great place to
put a pin on the discussion.That is clue the movie fifty one.
We're gonna be back with fifty two. That means we've been bringing them to
this show to you fifty two weeksconsecutively without ever missing an episode. Plus
ma plus we had Leslieann Warren onthis show, Leslie and Warren for a

(22:55):
special episode on July the fourth,I think it was or July third,
and that it's a special episode twobecause that's when they release Back to the
Future in nineteen eighty five, whichis the same year this movie came out.
Jeff Smith, thank you for playingalong with my silly game. You
can find him all the social energyat mister Oh No, I'm sorry about
to give out your email. JeffC. Smith, email Twitter or just

(23:22):
Clue doc doc up. Or myphone number is Area code seven ahead two
A one three, three oh eightzero zero four is where you can find
me. Or the Platinum ceiling wrapperMike Jones and we will be back next
time. With minute fifty two ofClue the movie Pot two, Jeff will
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