November 13, 2023 • 25 mins
Six blackmail victims are invited to an isolated mansion by a man who knows a dark secret from each of their pasts. On arrival, each is given a pseudonym drawn from Cluedo before being introduced to the blackmailer. Each is handed a weapon, at which point the lights are switched off and the blackmailer is killed. Can the guests uncover the murderer before they all become victims? Brad Gilmore and Jeff Smith have a lot in common. Both are huge fans of the 1985 movie Clue, and both have made significant contributions to the film's legacy. Brad is the author of Back from the Future: A Celebration of the Greatest Time Travel Story Ever Told, and Jeff is the director of Who Done It: A Clue Documentary. In their new podcast, Clue the Movie Podcast, Brad and Jeff watch the movie one minute at a time and break it down. Along the way, they share behind-the-scenes stories, trivia, and their own personal insights. Whether you're a diehard fan of Clue or you've never seen it before, Clue the Movie Podcast is a must-listen.
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(00:00):
Oh, oh my god, Wow, where you're coming from? Merey going?
(00:32):
Where the lunch? The door slothigh? No, let unlock it?
Where's the key? Keez go?Never mind about the key and locked
the door. Tear it and lockedthe door without the tab let us sing,
let us sing, let my houseto turn back the turn it to.
(00:56):
I'm just gonna have to break itdown. Hello everybody, and welcome
back to Clueing, as we breakdown the nineteen eighty five Colt classic movie
Clue one minute at a time thatwe've been doing so for well over a
(01:18):
year, not well over, justover. My name is Brad Kilmore.
I'm joined by Jeff Smith. Jeff, how are we? Oh great,
it's been a year. Yeah.I think our first podcast premiered right around
Halloween last year, and this oneis dropping, as they say, the
day before the week. When diddropping become the term? If it's been
(01:41):
like that for the last I don'tknow at least ten years or more,
but I would is that the earlytwo thousands. I would say like yeah,
mid mid mid two thousands, andwho said it first? To hey,
when's your album drop? I feellike that was like a I don't
know what that is I don't knowwhere that came from, but then I
started here. It like for me, it felt like a music only term,
(02:04):
like hey, it drops on thetwenty seventh, and then it then
like trailer drops tomorrow, Hey money, podcast episode drops on Thursday or whatever.
I don't know when that transition tothe dropping happened. I don't know.
And then what's the new verb gonnabe If it's not it's dropping,
what's what's the new album? Likeyou just released a new album. That's
(02:28):
a wonderful segue. By the way, thank you, You're welcome, Thank
you. When did your new albumflail into the well? My album fell
into all the streaming charts are streamingservices on Friday Friday. It plopped on
Friday. It plopped on Friday.Yes, it took a trip and a
(02:50):
stumble into your ear pods on Fridaytwenty eleven. Two words happiness, sadness,
et cetera as the name of thealbum. We'd appreciate it if everybody
checked it out. But yeah,I don't know when drop came into the
American lexicon, but you know what, it's here now and new episodes include
the movie podcast Drop Every Monday anduh we're really just dropped. This one
(03:15):
just dropped. As it's as you'relistening, drop, We're dropping. We're
dropping, dropped, We're here,we're not but we're not done, so
we're dropping. We're in the middleof Welcome to Us, dropping all over
the movie. Clear today, youhave plenty of good minute. You have
plenty of droppings from Brad and Jefftoday, Is that right? A lot
(03:36):
of and a lot of stunt doublesdropping In this minute we got to see
Brad's favorite thing, people bumping intoeach other, falling down. I feel
like I am a child because theseare the things that left you. I
I've never when I was a kid. Yes, but I can't tell you
that I have any of them committedto memory. And I also liked I
(03:58):
also like to think that I havelike a I'm like very big on snappy
dialogue, which is probably why Ilike this movie, but like the quick
syncopated rhythms of dialogue and jokes firingquickly. I like that kind of thing,
like a who's on first kind ofbit, which you also get a
little bit in here. Yeah,but but I don't you'd be perfect as
(04:19):
a you'd be a perfect fan forthe Marx Brothers because they all have that,
because Groucho has the witty dialogue,and then they're they're still bumping into
each other, and and Harpo doesn'ttalk at all, so it's all visual.
And and then you know, Chickoplays piano, which is fun.
Look at that. All of themare. They got their own talent.
But yeah, I find myself laughingalways at the pratt falls and stuff.
(04:45):
Now you also have to know thatI'm from the This is probably a funny
term to name the generation, butI am of the generation of Jackass.
I'm the I'm a part of thejackass generation. That's true. That's fair,
It's true. And there was nothingfunnier than Johnny Knoxville falling or getting
(05:08):
hit by a bull and doing aflip. I don't know why we found
that so comical for so long.Their professionals don't try it at home,
don't do it, but there therewere. This minute had a lot.
So when we picked up from fiftytwo is when Miss Scarlett and Colonel Mustard
were in the ballroom and Miss Scarletthad just looked behind the window and there
(05:30):
was the interestingly cut slit out ofthe small frame of the window, the
pane of the window, and thenuh, this is where we're picking up
and the what happened? So thedoor, we just watched it, but
now I'm forgetting. Did the doorshut? No? Like the Oh yeah
it was fireplace was the secret passageand they found it open because the killer
(05:54):
already went through and left it open, and considerate, what do we bourn
on a bar? And then sothey found it. But then somehow,
by magic, by construction, bywho knows physics, it turned on them
and trapped them. Someone do thator stiff breeze. Yeah, that must
(06:17):
be an impact of them walking through, but everybody's counted for kind of No,
they all have to come running.I don't know who turned that that
fireplaced around on them, but they'restuck. Yeah, yeah, they're stuck.
That's how it happened. And thedoor's locked, locked, and there's
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the key. So they all startscreaming, and everybody from their perspective places
where they were in the previous sceneswhen they were searching the house. They
all come running and they all gatherand conglomerate in front of the door to
the lounge, which is where misterBody's body is and now mustard and scarlet.
(07:03):
Okay, I think I have thisright. Okay, well the motorists
the oh is the motive motors.That's the motorists, not body that's dead.
Yeah, yeah, the motorists isdead. We just yeah we saw
him get killed with the wrench.Wrench. Yeah, not mister body,
as the motorists. So they're theythink, maybe, okay, let's break
(07:26):
this down with their psychology here.Do they think that they are locked now
in this lounge and the murderer isstill in there? Like what is their
hurry to get out other than theyjust what's the I think they feel trapped
and they're freaked out that they're inthe room with the dead body, and
it's definitely I don't think they thinkthat the killers in there, because all
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you have to do is look leftand look right, there's nobody else there.
But I don't think they like theidea of being stuck. They could
just be having major panic attacks.They could be They could be just because
think of like this, like ifyou were in your room right now where
you all, and the door shutsitself, you know, like similar to
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the fireplace, and then you findyourself to be locked in with a dead
body. Add a dead body onmake that even worse, because I don't
like the first scenario. But nowthe guy that came to use my phone
is lying here dead. Somehow someonegot in here and hit him over the
head with a wrench that was lockedbefore. And now I'm stuck in the
(08:33):
room. Yeah, I probably wouldn'tbe calm and cool and like, hey,
guys, get a chance in here. Yeah, let us out,
Let us out, let us in, let us in. Now we established
earlier Missus White, because so theyall run there and they're looking for the
key. They're screaming at mister Greento open the door. He's like,
(08:56):
well, who has the key?Watsworth says the key's gone out in his
pocket anymore. Greens freaked out andsaid I can't open it without the key,
right, and he's screaming and yelling. Yeah, so we said earlier
in this podcast, and there's beenfifty three now episodes, so forgive us
if we've forgotten somewhat. But Ibelieve we said that miss White, Missus
(09:20):
White, was the one who tookthe key. We don't really know.
We don't took the key at thispoint. We said it was possible because
the way they were positioning. Yeahsee now it's getting all mixed up.
But the way they are positioned,she was right next to Wadays, she
could have done it because the keyto the cabinet. No wait, the
(09:46):
key to the door. He threwthe key to the cabinet through the key
to the cabet. We saw thatbounce off the herb. But he's supposed
to have a key to the doorthat he locked the motorist in, and
somehow that key is gone. Yes, we don't know who took that key.
We're not sure. Why would theytake the key to that to the
door. Someone's got a key todoors. Now, Now that's a different
(10:09):
key in the fifties because my grandparents'house was made in the fifties, right
before it was still standing as shewas made in the fifties. They lived
in the fifties. It was madein the nineteen teens. But I remember
every door had the skeleton key lookingthing right with the you know what I
mean. Yeah, you can peekthrough it in movies and see everything.
(10:30):
The traditional keyhole kind of what wethink of the keyhole pirates. Yes,
so, and I could be wrong, but I remember they had a what
my grandfather called a master key,and that key could open every door in
the house with the one key andlock it. Okay, so do we
are we supposed to think that there'sone key that can unlock every door here,
(10:56):
like including the cabinet. I wouldsay that I don't know if the
it would be on that, butit would definitely be a key to all
the doors. All the doors,one key. Yeah, and it makes
sense that the butler would have it. Don't you think groundskeepers and maybe sanitation
engineers of the day would like itif we went back to the one key
situation for all the doors, becauseyou've seen in every movie and television show
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where they have to fumble through themajority of the keys, whether it be
like the building super, the groundskeeper, a janitor of some kind,
they're always fumbling with the keys.Shouldn't we go back to the single key
situation? I propose I recognize thatgentlemen from California, Yeah, this is
you, and I'm putting this propositionon the house floor here include the movie
(11:45):
podcast. Should we go back tothe one key solution? Well, I
think we have it in like hotels. I know that the hotel staff can
have a matt like on a cardkey, there is a master key that
could open all rooms on the littlecredit card kind of keys, the plastic
keys. Yes, whoa, sothat's a thing and did not know that.
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That being said, I worked ina hospital for a little bit and
that had a lot of different keys, And you're right. I had to
fumble around with it to the pointwhere I had to put little color codes
on the top of the keys becauseit was too hot. Like it took
inevitably, you're going to grab thekey you need last. Yes, So
(12:31):
even if you think, oh,this is the one, I know,
the shape it changes. It willchange shape. I promise you, it'll
change where it is on your yourkey ring, because what's on the left
is not always especially if you likestick it on your belt or put it
in your pocket. It's all goingto get messed up. So I agree
with you, and I think it'sfinally it's good that someone on this podcast
finally took a stand for something.You try to improve this world. I
(12:54):
try to stay out of skeleton key. I try to stay out of politics.
But the skeleton key, now Idon't think it's the appropriate name for
it anymore. I think that Ithink skeletons. We don't want to do
that. But what if the wrongperson gets the one key. That's kind
of what we're dealing with in thisscene. It's great if the good guy
(13:16):
has the key, because I canget you all out of here. But
then the if the one key isin the wrong hands, that means a
lot of doors opening and that weneed locked. Or maybe we should just
have all doors open. Maybe that'sthe key. Bring to open all the
doors. Everybody open doors. Yeah, a wide open door. That's what
(13:37):
they want. And by the way, they just want all the doors wide
open, letting everybody in and out. Yeah, yeah, that's what we
need. They are We need opendoor policies. Forget the one of the
best bosses in like corporate world opendoor policy. Doors always open, nobody.
Hey, that's what you say whenyou try to make somebody happy and
comfortable. Doors always open? Yeah, come on in you What do you
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say when you don't want the doorswere closed? Knock, oh, knock
before you come in. That's suspiciouswhen someone has the thing that says,
please knock before entering. Why whatare you doing? And then you hear
like shuffle shuffle on the other side, you know, and they're pulling stuff
or they're clearing history murders in thebuilding. It's really bad. So we're
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supposed to assume that somebody now hasstolen the key. We suspect you and
I being the we in that Senate, suspected it's most likely missus White.
We're not sure of that fact.They want to get in, but though
to save Scarlet and Mustard, Yeah, definitely they want to save them.
(14:43):
They're being nice now. When Wadsworthrealizes he does not have the key and
there's the screaming between Plumb and Greenover the key, he he wants to
break the door down. There's noalternative. He says, I'm going to
break it down, and moly theI think Tim Curry does amazing physical work
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in this movie, especially had thelast third. Everybody always talks about the
last third where he explains everything,but sweet Baby Jay, he when he
backs up and hits that door,which I hope was only one or two,
takes it the most. I don'tcare that door is. It's not
like they brought in a foam dooror one of your phony baloney folding chairs
(15:28):
from your little pro wrestling world.Brad Gilmour. He hits that door hard
because I'm you know, the soundobviously is a sound effect, I'm guessing,
but I feel it every time hehits it on that arm. He
just slams into that door, slamsinto it, many slams into it.
(15:50):
When he's that's not a stunt double. I will say this. I'm very
curious. I can't wait to seethe four K release of Clue when it
comes out, because when they're allrunning at the top of the stairs and
they collide into each other. Evennow, if you look at especially mister
Green because he's right ahead stunt they'reall stunt doubles, all of them.
You want to go back now,look, don't you. Yeah, that's
(16:11):
what I want to do. Yeah, stunt doubles big time on the on
the when they all collide, Ithink, all four of them, it's
even like this is White and youBet and Waldsworth I think are all stunt
doubles. All of them now.Now, Wadsworth, when he hits that
door, that's all him. It'sit's all him. He nails it.
Now when I'm looking back at thisscene here, the is something interesting that
(16:37):
that pops up. I want toshow you. I'm going to remove this
so you can see ad Okay,you see this is earlier when mister Green
is in I guess where were they? They're the searching the attic or the
attic? Yeah, okay, doyou see this particular thing that I'm looking
at? Here? Are you?Okay? So to explain to everyone,
(16:59):
mister Green is looking in the atticand there's like a weird dress in the
background. There's a light, butthere is a box and in this box
is like a mannequin's head, eyesclosed with the beard looks like a wax
figurehead. And I think where you'regoing with this is it looks like Professor
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Plump. It has looks like ChrisopherLloyd. It has a plum look to
it. Now, what do weknow about this? It doesn't it look
I mean it looks awfully like ChristopherLloyd, like if you imagine odd prop.
Yeah, what is this? Dowe know anything about this? Oh?
This would be a good time tohave John hat John. This would
be a thing. He probably couldgo tell us exactly what prop warehouse this
(17:42):
came from, and why who it'sthere from, and why what's it I'm
referring to? But yeah, Iyou know what, I'll be honest,
I never noticed that until you justpointed it out, because there's so much
weird stuff in some of these roomsand you're so busy watching the actors.
Why is there a wax figure headthat kind of looks like Christopher Lloyd to
the beard in the attic? What'sbeen going on in this house? There's
(18:04):
a jack in the box later,a huge jack in the box later,
and now there's this wax figure andnow yeah, you're pinning back. There's
a like a lion or a cougarlike mounted head in the other corner of
this attic that's like got starly teeth. And then a dress that kind of
looks like Missus Peacock's dress, butnot really. And boy well John said
(18:30):
that in the scene where they're searching, there were a lot of things cut
of them just searching the house,so maybe more things were explained in deleted
scenes. Now we know here towardsthe end, let's see, this is
where I'm shuffling through and then hehits the thing. Oh just what a
(18:52):
look at this. Look at thesale job. This is what we talk
about when we talk about when wetalk about uh, pro wrestling is like,
how well do you sell it?Right? When you get hit?
How well do you sell It's justa phenomenal job, I mean, phenomenal
(19:14):
job by Wadsworth. So how muchof that do you think was acting?
Though? I think it probably didhurt. I think it did hurt.
I think it hurt a lot.And I think that he, like you
said, the cell, he registeredit, he felt the pain of it,
he registered it, and he movedon. Yeah, pretty much,
this temporary film is forever. Filmsforever, so you gotta go for it.
Now. That's actually interesting thing thatyou bring up, because I've heard
(19:37):
sometimes, like, for instance,in the Creed movie that they did back
in twenty fifteen, the first one, Michael B. Jordan takes a real
punch in the knockout scene or somethinglike that, right, I mean,
and you see everyone's seen the videowhere he's like going through the motions and
there's the green screen behind him andhe gets hit and you see his head
(19:59):
spin. Is that a thing inthe film community where you just said film
is forever, Like, Hey,we're going to go for it. Actually,
the first time I heard that expressionwas on a behind the scenes of
Back to the Future too, Okay, tell me it was a young Michael
J. Fox said that that iswhat Robert Timkis told him. Because if
you think about Back to the Futureand then the clip that they showed as
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an example is in nineteen fifty fivewhere original Michael, original Marty throws the
door open and hits future Marty inthe face when he's confronted by Beth outside
the high school. And it lookslike that door really hits Michael J.
Fox in the face. And Ithink that door really hit Michael J.
Fox in the face. What amanipulative thing to do as a director though,
(20:47):
to say tell that to your actor, Hey, paying a temporary films
forever, so I'm gonna punch you. But then going back to Creed So
that's just alone notoriously. And Ithink Rocky four was like really in a
hit and then he ended up havingto go to the hospital. I think
that's kind of street cred though.It's kind of like how Tom Cruise,
you know, keeps throwing themselves onthe planes and things like you know,
(21:08):
now it becomes oh, it's weakto have a stunt double or green screen,
like, no, I'm going toreally put myself in danger, right,
yeah, but I think you don'thave to. If you don't have
to do that, you don't doit. But we want to be talking
about it right now. Tim Curryreally hitting that door, so I guess
it worked, right, right,So I don't know. I mean,
(21:30):
is there is there anything else herethat we should probably illuminate on or or
from the illuminate rather from the minutethat was, I would just say this
definitely has I think let us in, let us in, let us out,
let us out as one of themost quoted lines from Clue, although
when I interviewed Jonathan Lynn he misquotedit when he was talking about lines that
(21:51):
people say back to him. Hesays, let me in, let me
in, let me out, letme out. And this is the first
time I met him, and Ididn't want to correct him. Well,
hey, you got the line youwrote. It's actually let us in.
There's two, there's more people,so i'd say that, and then in
the next minute, we are goingto see another obvious stunt double as Yvett,
(22:12):
it's going to shoot open the door. But yeah, that's I think
we'll see the stunt double in thefour K version for sure. I can't
wait for the four k Okay JeffSmith follow him on the socials. You
can follow me on the socials.Clue doc dot com, of course,
is where you can see the documentaryas well as all your favorite screamings.
(22:34):
Speak of the documentary real quick.I just want to point out if you're
listening to this live. November third, twenty twenty two was the first screening
ever of Who Done At the Cluedocumentary. That was a year ago on,
So it's been a year since it'sbeen out there. Look at that.
That's nice calendar year. Well,you know, everything happened a year
(22:56):
ago. Hey man, For allthe Who Done It fans, for all
the Clue the Movie podcast fans,we appreciate your weekly listenership, all the
twenty eleven fans, all the twentyeleven fans out there, We're looking forward
to talking to you next week.Here Plue the Movie, b Assass
Oh, oh my god, Wow, where you're coming from? Merey going?
(00:32):
Where the lunch? The door slothigh? No, let unlock it?
Where's the key? Keez go?Never mind about the key and locked
the door. Tear it and lockedthe door without the tab let us sing,
let us sing, let my houseto turn back the turn it to.
(00:56):
I'm just gonna have to break itdown. Hello everybody, and welcome
back to Clueing, as we breakdown the nineteen eighty five Colt classic movie
Clue one minute at a time thatwe've been doing so for well over a
(01:18):
year, not well over, justover. My name is Brad Kilmore.
I'm joined by Jeff Smith. Jeff, how are we? Oh great,
it's been a year. Yeah.I think our first podcast premiered right around
Halloween last year, and this oneis dropping, as they say, the
day before the week. When diddropping become the term? If it's been
(01:41):
like that for the last I don'tknow at least ten years or more,
but I would is that the earlytwo thousands. I would say like yeah,
mid mid mid two thousands, andwho said it first? To hey,
when's your album drop? I feellike that was like a I don't
know what that is I don't knowwhere that came from, but then I
started here. It like for me, it felt like a music only term,
(02:04):
like hey, it drops on thetwenty seventh, and then it then
like trailer drops tomorrow, Hey money, podcast episode drops on Thursday or whatever.
I don't know when that transition tothe dropping happened. I don't know.
And then what's the new verb gonnabe If it's not it's dropping,
what's what's the new album? Likeyou just released a new album. That's
(02:28):
a wonderful segue. By the way, thank you, You're welcome, Thank
you. When did your new albumflail into the well? My album fell
into all the streaming charts are streamingservices on Friday Friday. It plopped on
Friday. It plopped on Friday.Yes, it took a trip and a
(02:50):
stumble into your ear pods on Fridaytwenty eleven. Two words happiness, sadness,
et cetera as the name of thealbum. We'd appreciate it if everybody
checked it out. But yeah,I don't know when drop came into the
American lexicon, but you know what, it's here now and new episodes include
the movie podcast Drop Every Monday anduh we're really just dropped. This one
(03:15):
just dropped. As it's as you'relistening, drop, We're dropping. We're
dropping, dropped, We're here,we're not but we're not done, so
we're dropping. We're in the middleof Welcome to Us, dropping all over
the movie. Clear today, youhave plenty of good minute. You have
plenty of droppings from Brad and Jefftoday, Is that right? A lot
(03:36):
of and a lot of stunt doublesdropping In this minute we got to see
Brad's favorite thing, people bumping intoeach other, falling down. I feel
like I am a child because theseare the things that left you. I
I've never when I was a kid. Yes, but I can't tell you
that I have any of them committedto memory. And I also liked I
(03:58):
also like to think that I havelike a I'm like very big on snappy
dialogue, which is probably why Ilike this movie, but like the quick
syncopated rhythms of dialogue and jokes firingquickly. I like that kind of thing,
like a who's on first kind ofbit, which you also get a
little bit in here. Yeah,but but I don't you'd be perfect as
(04:19):
a you'd be a perfect fan forthe Marx Brothers because they all have that,
because Groucho has the witty dialogue,and then they're they're still bumping into
each other, and and Harpo doesn'ttalk at all, so it's all visual.
And and then you know, Chickoplays piano, which is fun.
Look at that. All of themare. They got their own talent.
But yeah, I find myself laughingalways at the pratt falls and stuff.
(04:45):
Now you also have to know thatI'm from the This is probably a funny
term to name the generation, butI am of the generation of Jackass.
I'm the I'm a part of thejackass generation. That's true. That's fair,
It's true. And there was nothingfunnier than Johnny Knoxville falling or getting
(05:08):
hit by a bull and doing aflip. I don't know why we found
that so comical for so long.Their professionals don't try it at home,
don't do it, but there therewere. This minute had a lot.
So when we picked up from fiftytwo is when Miss Scarlett and Colonel Mustard
were in the ballroom and Miss Scarletthad just looked behind the window and there
(05:30):
was the interestingly cut slit out ofthe small frame of the window, the
pane of the window, and thenuh, this is where we're picking up
and the what happened? So thedoor, we just watched it, but
now I'm forgetting. Did the doorshut? No? Like the Oh yeah
it was fireplace was the secret passageand they found it open because the killer
(05:54):
already went through and left it open, and considerate, what do we bourn
on a bar? And then sothey found it. But then somehow,
by magic, by construction, bywho knows physics, it turned on them
and trapped them. Someone do thator stiff breeze. Yeah, that must
(06:17):
be an impact of them walking through, but everybody's counted for kind of No,
they all have to come running.I don't know who turned that that
fireplaced around on them, but they'restuck. Yeah, yeah, they're stuck.
That's how it happened. And thedoor's locked, locked, and there's
(06:41):
the key. So they all startscreaming, and everybody from their perspective places
where they were in the previous sceneswhen they were searching the house. They
all come running and they all gatherand conglomerate in front of the door to
the lounge, which is where misterBody's body is and now mustard and scarlet.
(07:03):
Okay, I think I have thisright. Okay, well the motorists
the oh is the motive motors.That's the motorists, not body that's dead.
Yeah, yeah, the motorists isdead. We just yeah we saw
him get killed with the wrench.Wrench. Yeah, not mister body,
as the motorists. So they're theythink, maybe, okay, let's break
(07:26):
this down with their psychology here.Do they think that they are locked now
in this lounge and the murderer isstill in there? Like what is their
hurry to get out other than theyjust what's the I think they feel trapped
and they're freaked out that they're inthe room with the dead body, and
it's definitely I don't think they thinkthat the killers in there, because all
(07:48):
you have to do is look leftand look right, there's nobody else there.
But I don't think they like theidea of being stuck. They could
just be having major panic attacks.They could be They could be just because
think of like this, like ifyou were in your room right now where
you all, and the door shutsitself, you know, like similar to
(08:11):
the fireplace, and then you findyourself to be locked in with a dead
body. Add a dead body onmake that even worse, because I don't
like the first scenario. But nowthe guy that came to use my phone
is lying here dead. Somehow someonegot in here and hit him over the
head with a wrench that was lockedbefore. And now I'm stuck in the
(08:33):
room. Yeah, I probably wouldn'tbe calm and cool and like, hey,
guys, get a chance in here. Yeah, let us out,
Let us out, let us in, let us in. Now we established
earlier Missus White, because so theyall run there and they're looking for the
key. They're screaming at mister Greento open the door. He's like,
(08:56):
well, who has the key?Watsworth says the key's gone out in his
pocket anymore. Greens freaked out andsaid I can't open it without the key,
right, and he's screaming and yelling. Yeah, so we said earlier
in this podcast, and there's beenfifty three now episodes, so forgive us
if we've forgotten somewhat. But Ibelieve we said that miss White, Missus
(09:20):
White, was the one who tookthe key. We don't really know.
We don't took the key at thispoint. We said it was possible because
the way they were positioning. Yeahsee now it's getting all mixed up.
But the way they are positioned,she was right next to Wadays, she
could have done it because the keyto the cabinet. No wait, the
(09:46):
key to the door. He threwthe key to the cabinet through the key
to the cabet. We saw thatbounce off the herb. But he's supposed
to have a key to the doorthat he locked the motorist in, and
somehow that key is gone. Yes, we don't know who took that key.
We're not sure. Why would theytake the key to that to the
door. Someone's got a key todoors. Now, Now that's a different
(10:09):
key in the fifties because my grandparents'house was made in the fifties, right
before it was still standing as shewas made in the fifties. They lived
in the fifties. It was madein the nineteen teens. But I remember
every door had the skeleton key lookingthing right with the you know what I
mean. Yeah, you can peekthrough it in movies and see everything.
(10:30):
The traditional keyhole kind of what wethink of the keyhole pirates. Yes,
so, and I could be wrong, but I remember they had a what
my grandfather called a master key,and that key could open every door in
the house with the one key andlock it. Okay, so do we
are we supposed to think that there'sone key that can unlock every door here,
(10:56):
like including the cabinet. I wouldsay that I don't know if the
it would be on that, butit would definitely be a key to all
the doors. All the doors,one key. Yeah, and it makes
sense that the butler would have it. Don't you think groundskeepers and maybe sanitation
engineers of the day would like itif we went back to the one key
situation for all the doors, becauseyou've seen in every movie and television show
(11:20):
where they have to fumble through themajority of the keys, whether it be
like the building super, the groundskeeper, a janitor of some kind,
they're always fumbling with the keys.Shouldn't we go back to the single key
situation? I propose I recognize thatgentlemen from California, Yeah, this is
you, and I'm putting this propositionon the house floor here include the movie
(11:45):
podcast. Should we go back tothe one key solution? Well, I
think we have it in like hotels. I know that the hotel staff can
have a matt like on a cardkey, there is a master key that
could open all rooms on the littlecredit card kind of keys, the plastic
keys. Yes, whoa, sothat's a thing and did not know that.
(12:09):
That being said, I worked ina hospital for a little bit and
that had a lot of different keys, And you're right. I had to
fumble around with it to the pointwhere I had to put little color codes
on the top of the keys becauseit was too hot. Like it took
inevitably, you're going to grab thekey you need last. Yes, So
(12:31):
even if you think, oh,this is the one, I know,
the shape it changes. It willchange shape. I promise you, it'll
change where it is on your yourkey ring, because what's on the left
is not always especially if you likestick it on your belt or put it
in your pocket. It's all goingto get messed up. So I agree
with you, and I think it'sfinally it's good that someone on this podcast
finally took a stand for something.You try to improve this world. I
(12:54):
try to stay out of skeleton key. I try to stay out of politics.
But the skeleton key, now Idon't think it's the appropriate name for
it anymore. I think that Ithink skeletons. We don't want to do
that. But what if the wrongperson gets the one key. That's kind
of what we're dealing with in thisscene. It's great if the good guy
(13:16):
has the key, because I canget you all out of here. But
then the if the one key isin the wrong hands, that means a
lot of doors opening and that weneed locked. Or maybe we should just
have all doors open. Maybe that'sthe key. Bring to open all the
doors. Everybody open doors. Yeah, a wide open door. That's what
(13:37):
they want. And by the way, they just want all the doors wide
open, letting everybody in and out. Yeah, yeah, that's what we
need. They are We need opendoor policies. Forget the one of the
best bosses in like corporate world opendoor policy. Doors always open, nobody.
Hey, that's what you say whenyou try to make somebody happy and
comfortable. Doors always open? Yeah, come on in you What do you
(14:00):
say when you don't want the doorswere closed? Knock, oh, knock
before you come in. That's suspiciouswhen someone has the thing that says,
please knock before entering. Why whatare you doing? And then you hear
like shuffle shuffle on the other side, you know, and they're pulling stuff
or they're clearing history murders in thebuilding. It's really bad. So we're
(14:22):
supposed to assume that somebody now hasstolen the key. We suspect you and
I being the we in that Senate, suspected it's most likely missus White.
We're not sure of that fact.They want to get in, but though
to save Scarlet and Mustard, Yeah, definitely they want to save them.
(14:43):
They're being nice now. When Wadsworthrealizes he does not have the key and
there's the screaming between Plumb and Greenover the key, he he wants to
break the door down. There's noalternative. He says, I'm going to
break it down, and moly theI think Tim Curry does amazing physical work
(15:07):
in this movie, especially had thelast third. Everybody always talks about the
last third where he explains everything,but sweet Baby Jay, he when he
backs up and hits that door,which I hope was only one or two,
takes it the most. I don'tcare that door is. It's not
like they brought in a foam dooror one of your phony baloney folding chairs
(15:28):
from your little pro wrestling world.Brad Gilmour. He hits that door hard
because I'm you know, the soundobviously is a sound effect, I'm guessing,
but I feel it every time hehits it on that arm. He
just slams into that door, slamsinto it, many slams into it.
(15:50):
When he's that's not a stunt double. I will say this. I'm very
curious. I can't wait to seethe four K release of Clue when it
comes out, because when they're allrunning at the top of the stairs and
they collide into each other. Evennow, if you look at especially mister
Green because he's right ahead stunt they'reall stunt doubles, all of them.
You want to go back now,look, don't you. Yeah, that's
(16:11):
what I want to do. Yeah, stunt doubles big time on the on
the when they all collide, Ithink, all four of them, it's
even like this is White and youBet and Waldsworth I think are all stunt
doubles. All of them now.Now, Wadsworth, when he hits that
door, that's all him. It'sit's all him. He nails it.
Now when I'm looking back at thisscene here, the is something interesting that
(16:37):
that pops up. I want toshow you. I'm going to remove this
so you can see ad Okay,you see this is earlier when mister Green
is in I guess where were they? They're the searching the attic or the
attic? Yeah, okay, doyou see this particular thing that I'm looking
at? Here? Are you?Okay? So to explain to everyone,
(16:59):
mister Green is looking in the atticand there's like a weird dress in the
background. There's a light, butthere is a box and in this box
is like a mannequin's head, eyesclosed with the beard looks like a wax
figurehead. And I think where you'regoing with this is it looks like Professor
(17:19):
Plump. It has looks like ChrisopherLloyd. It has a plum look to
it. Now, what do weknow about this? It doesn't it look
I mean it looks awfully like ChristopherLloyd, like if you imagine odd prop.
Yeah, what is this? Dowe know anything about this? Oh?
This would be a good time tohave John hat John. This would
be a thing. He probably couldgo tell us exactly what prop warehouse this
(17:42):
came from, and why who it'sthere from, and why what's it I'm
referring to? But yeah, Iyou know what, I'll be honest,
I never noticed that until you justpointed it out, because there's so much
weird stuff in some of these roomsand you're so busy watching the actors.
Why is there a wax figure headthat kind of looks like Christopher Lloyd to
the beard in the attic? What'sbeen going on in this house? There's
(18:04):
a jack in the box later,a huge jack in the box later,
and now there's this wax figure andnow yeah, you're pinning back. There's
a like a lion or a cougarlike mounted head in the other corner of
this attic that's like got starly teeth. And then a dress that kind of
looks like Missus Peacock's dress, butnot really. And boy well John said
(18:30):
that in the scene where they're searching, there were a lot of things cut
of them just searching the house,so maybe more things were explained in deleted
scenes. Now we know here towardsthe end, let's see, this is
where I'm shuffling through and then hehits the thing. Oh just what a
(18:52):
look at this. Look at thesale job. This is what we talk
about when we talk about when wetalk about uh, pro wrestling is like,
how well do you sell it?Right? When you get hit?
How well do you sell It's justa phenomenal job, I mean, phenomenal
(19:14):
job by Wadsworth. So how muchof that do you think was acting?
Though? I think it probably didhurt. I think it did hurt.
I think it hurt a lot.And I think that he, like you
said, the cell, he registeredit, he felt the pain of it,
he registered it, and he movedon. Yeah, pretty much,
this temporary film is forever. Filmsforever, so you gotta go for it.
Now. That's actually interesting thing thatyou bring up, because I've heard
(19:37):
sometimes, like, for instance,in the Creed movie that they did back
in twenty fifteen, the first one, Michael B. Jordan takes a real
punch in the knockout scene or somethinglike that, right, I mean,
and you see everyone's seen the videowhere he's like going through the motions and
there's the green screen behind him andhe gets hit and you see his head
(19:59):
spin. Is that a thing inthe film community where you just said film
is forever, Like, Hey,we're going to go for it. Actually,
the first time I heard that expressionwas on a behind the scenes of
Back to the Future too, Okay, tell me it was a young Michael
J. Fox said that that iswhat Robert Timkis told him. Because if
you think about Back to the Futureand then the clip that they showed as
(20:22):
an example is in nineteen fifty fivewhere original Michael, original Marty throws the
door open and hits future Marty inthe face when he's confronted by Beth outside
the high school. And it lookslike that door really hits Michael J.
Fox in the face. And Ithink that door really hit Michael J.
Fox in the face. What amanipulative thing to do as a director though,
(20:47):
to say tell that to your actor, Hey, paying a temporary films
forever, so I'm gonna punch you. But then going back to Creed So
that's just alone notoriously. And Ithink Rocky four was like really in a
hit and then he ended up havingto go to the hospital. I think
that's kind of street cred though.It's kind of like how Tom Cruise,
you know, keeps throwing themselves onthe planes and things like you know,
(21:08):
now it becomes oh, it's weakto have a stunt double or green screen,
like, no, I'm going toreally put myself in danger, right,
yeah, but I think you don'thave to. If you don't have
to do that, you don't doit. But we want to be talking
about it right now. Tim Curryreally hitting that door, so I guess
it worked, right, right,So I don't know. I mean,
(21:30):
is there is there anything else herethat we should probably illuminate on or or
from the illuminate rather from the minutethat was, I would just say this
definitely has I think let us in, let us in, let us out,
let us out as one of themost quoted lines from Clue, although
when I interviewed Jonathan Lynn he misquotedit when he was talking about lines that
(21:51):
people say back to him. Hesays, let me in, let me
in, let me out, letme out. And this is the first
time I met him, and Ididn't want to correct him. Well,
hey, you got the line youwrote. It's actually let us in.
There's two, there's more people,so i'd say that, and then in
the next minute, we are goingto see another obvious stunt double as Yvett,
(22:12):
it's going to shoot open the door. But yeah, that's I think
we'll see the stunt double in thefour K version for sure. I can't
wait for the four k Okay JeffSmith follow him on the socials. You
can follow me on the socials.Clue doc dot com, of course,
is where you can see the documentaryas well as all your favorite screamings.
(22:34):
Speak of the documentary real quick.I just want to point out if you're
listening to this live. November third, twenty twenty two was the first screening
ever of Who Done At the Cluedocumentary. That was a year ago on,
So it's been a year since it'sbeen out there. Look at that.
That's nice calendar year. Well,you know, everything happened a year
(22:56):
ago. Hey man, For allthe Who Done It fans, for all
the Clue the Movie podcast fans,we appreciate your weekly listenership, all the
twenty eleven fans, all the twentyeleven fans out there, We're looking forward
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